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Speaker 1: But you didn't come for me, You came for d
Speaker 1: You came for Lee.
Speaker 2: Today we are joined by one of the new threats
Speaker 2: who came back for season forty two, the Jackie Robinson
Speaker 2: season number forty two, Mariano Rivera Shacksay Yankees, as well
Speaker 2: from from the Great stat Sam Connecticut by the way
Speaker 2: my fellow nutmeger here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Leo, how are you brother? I'm doing pretty solid, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me here. You know I met
Speaker 1: Drek back on forty one, my rookie season. Yea, he knows.
Speaker 1: I was talking that ship, talking about some fuck all
Speaker 1: the events. But you know, I'm like a j V
Speaker 1: starter now I'm not. I'm not a veteran. I'm not
Speaker 1: varsity starting running back. But you know we're working away
Speaker 1: up the rinks.
Speaker 2: You didn't say funk all the vets. What you said
Speaker 2: was we don't care about was it little Jimmy or
Speaker 2: little Timmy?
Speaker 1: Fuck them kids? Bro right? Like if your kid is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you haven't the lines, then
Speaker 1: you know who is the fake?
Speaker 2: A little tim Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Get out of here, broll you no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: nod when he was foddeling in your nuts.
Speaker 3: Like you see what I'm saying about. I don't understand
Speaker 3: what you're saying. No, we don't how because if if
Speaker 3: me and you like today, how do you twenty twenty four? Okay,
Speaker 3: twenty four four, and like we met today, we had
Speaker 3: we we everything went well, and then like fifteen years
Speaker 3: from now, like you had little Timmy, and like I
Speaker 3: appreciated the fact that, like your dad now and and now,
Speaker 3: I would look out for you because you are you know,
Speaker 3: we came up together and you had little Timmy.
Speaker 1: Then like that's that's a good thing. It's a great thing.
Speaker 1: But the fact that like you're coming out and being like, no,
Speaker 1: fuck you and little Timmy, Yes, no, that's that's not good.
Speaker 1: Timmy's guilty, bad association because Timmy didn't do anything wrong, right,
Speaker 1: Timmy's he fucking just got torn on the earth. He
Speaker 1: can't choose that shit, right, Like I said, I would respect. Okay, Brokay,
Speaker 1: I'm happy your father. Really, I saw your Stungbro. He
Speaker 1: looks like a cool kid, real shit, like he should
Speaker 1: be on this show. I'm not even bullshitting the older son,
Speaker 1: the older son.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he.
Speaker 1: Looks like like energy wise. Yeah, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm outside looking at I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, but listen, but listen. And let's say, let's say,
Speaker 2: because he's got he's so free, he does have a
Speaker 2: baby girl coming to September.
Speaker 1: Bro, congratulations on that.
Speaker 2: But let's say, right, and and in fact, he doesn't
Speaker 2: have what coming in September, maybe you will, maybe you
Speaker 2: will outside of competition.
Speaker 1: You fuck you saying, but we don't know what competition.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you.
Speaker 2: We don't know what her name is gonna be. Let's
Speaker 2: call her little Jenny for now, right, So you got
Speaker 2: you do your first season last year, season forty one,
Speaker 2: nine months later, he has little Jenny. Right, you can't
Speaker 2: say without a shadow of a doubt that comes season
Speaker 2: forty seven, you work with him, you wouldn't maybe be like.
Speaker 1: You know what, I was there when little Jenny was born.
Speaker 1: That's how it is for him. And to be the godfather. Okay, okay, Jenny,
Speaker 1: But how many people in forty one were your godfathers
Speaker 1: or your best men? Zero far between? You see what
Speaker 1: a look I'd be like, I respect that, I'm proud
Speaker 1: of you. You're my boy. And to be fair, and
Speaker 1: to be fair, I probably invited one or two to
Speaker 1: I was there, average neither of them came to your wedding.
Speaker 1: Neither of those guys. Case closed, no one forty one.
Speaker 1: No one may see what I'm saying, So you can
Speaker 1: I don't think okay, okay, okay, okay, says the guy
Speaker 1: who's like, oh no me, Jake bro man, we're best friends,
Speaker 1: me and Jake. Bro, we're best friends. Bro, we're ride
Speaker 1: or dies. Bro, you just met two weeks ago? The
Speaker 1: fuck you talking about? Did I? Did I switch up
Speaker 1: on Jake? Ever? No? Keep but it was I.
Speaker 2: Said it best keep your eyes out for Jake. Shorty
Speaker 2: wop On love that that right? Am? I right? Fellas?
Speaker 1: But it was, Yeah, that's what he says, right, Shorty
Speaker 1: wap right? Isn't Shorty w sure? What does he say?
Speaker 1: I don't blame not you?
Speaker 2: What does he say? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's ill matic illmatic? Don't tell me you don't he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He's very twenty four.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this because I don't know how
Speaker 2: this works when you're twenty four? Do people just not
Speaker 2: show you the good ship that came before? Because I'm forty,
Speaker 2: but I still.
Speaker 1: Be all the good ship when it comes to music,
Speaker 1: when it comes the vibe and he need to show
Speaker 1: you no Matic. I have no idea who that is?
Speaker 1: He probably Nos from New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Imatic album New York ninety four.
Speaker 1: I know you're saying, like a full word nozz o madic.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you just? Yeah? Nos? Bro,
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the biggest for New York with Biggy. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know, not with jay Z, you know, not
Speaker 1: with Diddy before, you know, all the weird ship but
Speaker 1: not That's fine. I get it. No, I am familiar
Speaker 1: with omadic. I was confusing the sentence you were saying.
Speaker 1: It sounds like, yeah, nozzle madic. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was saying exactly for you. You said I was combo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a little to twenty SIPs I did. I
Speaker 1: didn't get it either, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: we're on the same page on that. Just not a
Speaker 1: little Timmy. So let me Timmy, of all people, fuck you.
Speaker 1: So tim stop saying what what what happened to Rosa? Bro?
Speaker 1: Listen trick tomorrow and you have a little Timmy. Oh
Speaker 1: fucking god damn you. So like next he's not gonna
Speaker 1: say fuck little Timmy. Next week, I'm still gonna say
Speaker 1: I got too much moves this month birthday party, so
Speaker 1: quit that ship. I actually this says valid, though, but
Speaker 1: listen the sentiment.
Speaker 2: I do kind of agree with this.
Speaker 1: This is the problem, right, Like I said, if you had,
Speaker 1: if you had fuck, I don't know. Jacob tomorrow. Right,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, bro, you're my guy, I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of you, congratulations. Right, but we're competing, and fucking Jacob's
Speaker 1: bitch ass gets in the way of the competition we're
Speaker 1: competing in. I'm like, man, that's so unfair. I'm not
Speaker 1: your baby mama. The other people there on your baby mama,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't fucking matter. So they're like, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: but they were there when he was born. Do you
Speaker 1: think I gave a rats ass there there when you're born? Yes?
Speaker 1: Fuck no. Well, well, first of all, Jacob will never
Speaker 1: be a bitch ass, I hope so, because hope not.
Speaker 1: Jacob is only like a month old. Probably it's no
Speaker 1: reason that's like peak bitch ass age though, right.
Speaker 3: No, no, absolutely not, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're I was a bitch ass. You were a
Speaker 1: bitch ass. He was a bit thinking about it. When
Speaker 1: you're a baby, when you're that little fucking over developed
Speaker 1: seaman droplet, like you're you're just on earth, like you're
Speaker 1: just adapting to like the.
Speaker 3: Little twenty five that found fast Boy E fanboy fatty boy.
Speaker 1: Fatty I mean, I was a little skinny guy. But
Speaker 1: for Jacob's sake, you may have been fat, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there when Jake was born, and I don't care. Like,
Speaker 1: for example, LeRoy's here, he's here when your son was born.
Speaker 1: Great for him. That's a beautiful moment, nobleshit, no bullshit.
Speaker 1: But when I'm competing, I'm tunnel vision. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't care. If you're my own father, I'm giving you
Speaker 1: belt to ask, and my own dad knows that if
Speaker 1: we're competing, it's belt to ask. There's no mercy in
Speaker 1: my bloodline.
Speaker 3: I'm giving you belt to fucking Oh listen, if we've
Speaker 3: known each other for fucking ten years, guess what and
Speaker 3: we can still they sad or the other don't matter, Well,
Speaker 3: then you're.
Speaker 1: Fucking But I agree unless you're number one, terrible friend,
Speaker 1: no ship friend.
Speaker 4: But.
Speaker 1: Number one in the game. Okay, I got your back,
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: Here's the problem. Here's probabight. So I agree with your
Speaker 2: sentiment right that you, as a new guy, you and
Speaker 2: the game shouldn't care.
Speaker 1: V started Who is it? Who is it? Who is it? Jimmy,
Speaker 1: You're still you're still JV Bro. I know, but I'm
Speaker 1: still lying to the hose on my y I'm basically varsity, Like,
Speaker 1: give me one week. You got Adrian got scooped up,
Speaker 1: you're born from.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the ladies in a second. Let's
Speaker 2: let's finish on the kids for a second. I think
Speaker 2: the sentiment I get where he's coming from, where he
Speaker 2: comes into a game, and he's the way I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to care about. Your guys is pre existing.
Speaker 1: I don't know them yet, right, I know, eventually eventually
Speaker 1: I will say this.
Speaker 2: Eventually, I will say this. If eventually, but even if eventually,
Speaker 2: God willing, you have a baby and.
Speaker 1: One of your friends manifesting nonsense. Man, if you want, if.
Speaker 2: You want one, if you want, I'm not talking about
Speaker 2: scare or something. I'm saying if eventually you want a baby,
Speaker 2: and you have one, and this baby comes to life,
Speaker 2: and whether in the hospital or whether it's it's probably
Speaker 2: the pizza, and and this baby comes via a shower
Speaker 2: or whatever, and you have made a bond with someone
Speaker 2: on the challenge it is so strong that they are
Speaker 2: literally there when your baby is born. It's not the
Speaker 2: fact that they were there when your baby was born.
Speaker 2: It's the fact that if that's the case, then you
Speaker 2: guys have done some shit together where that's the reason
Speaker 2: you're not it's not little Timmy is what little Timmy represents,
Speaker 2: because I'll tell you right now, my wife would not
Speaker 2: let some random guy that I haul brawled against bet at.
Speaker 1: The hospital, which is so valid, and or at the
Speaker 1: wedding or this or that or the other thing. The
Speaker 1: people who are there for key moments is because and
Speaker 1: sometimes these relationships do develop on a challenge. You've done
Speaker 1: ten fifteen seasons together and have probably done a favor too,
Speaker 1: And I guarantee you there is a person whether it's
Speaker 1: season forty one, forty two or beyond, where they will
Speaker 1: do something for you where you will go, that's my dude.
Speaker 2: You use the word number one, that's my number one.
Speaker 2: I would do that for that person. Whether it's that's
Speaker 2: my number one or that's the dude to where there
Speaker 2: was Little Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Was born, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2: And these bonds do develop over the course of more
Speaker 2: than one or two season.
Speaker 1: You'll realize that are absolutely correct. But here's the kicker.
Speaker 1: What you're saying is all that I'm not discrediting that.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely on the money with that right. However, what
Speaker 1: I told Jake was if you cross me or vice versa,
Speaker 1: it's on site, and that's fair game. Because we crossed
Speaker 1: each other boom. I didn't put my trust Overly and Gabe,
Speaker 1: and that was my number two. I didn't put on
Speaker 1: my trust in Izzy, Adrian and Tay and those were
Speaker 1: like my real other number two is locked in as
Speaker 1: like one hole. But they knew I'm rocking for one
Speaker 1: person because that's all I knew. I could protect from
Speaker 1: what I knew. Right, Me and Jake met in the airport. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's not like some baby shower, not some he's my
Speaker 1: best man. I barely know the guy, but we both
Speaker 1: come to go ten years and get to it don't
Speaker 1: matter like it's in we fucking no listen right and
Speaker 1: you my girl, I'll say, yo, keep your eyes open.
Speaker 1: We're married, so fucking so I saw it like this.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: When it comes to competing, I like to compete with
Speaker 1: people who have the same mindset as me, as in
Speaker 1: the dog right like I want to know that they're
Speaker 1: down to do whatever it fucking takes to win, no
Speaker 1: matter what, No matter what that could mean, I know
Speaker 1: you my whole life. That can mean I've known him
Speaker 1: for three days. Whichever one I know has that true
Speaker 1: dog in him still to this moment, that's all I
Speaker 1: care about. So I come into this game. I'm a rookie.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I respect for you guys. I actually
Speaker 1: understand it. There's no bullshit around. I understand it. But
Speaker 1: as a rookie, you cannot discredit my mindset because if
Speaker 1: I don't speak up for myself and go, no, fuck
Speaker 1: all this, I'm here to make a name for myself.
Speaker 1: Think about what happens if I just fall into your
Speaker 1: order of the normal courses events. What you're doing is
Speaker 1: everybody should do everybode should take the right path or
Speaker 1: the vestment each other for years. Boom, great, we follow
Speaker 1: the path and if we're lucky, if we're lucky, we
Speaker 1: can make a name for myself. I control my destiny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. No, but I made and you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I love it and I appreciate it. And like, I
Speaker 3: want to get to what happened here on season forty two,
Speaker 3: episode three and you being up there in elimination again
Speaker 3: with Brad. I want to get to that point.
Speaker 1: But but before I get to that, I just want
Speaker 1: to say like I think you're different. I don't think
Speaker 1: like you. You if come into the game as like
Speaker 1: anybody else, and like I appreciate it, just the little
Speaker 1: timmy thing, like you're not you may not get there
Speaker 1: for another five years, since maybe when you're in the
Speaker 1: game for another five ten years. And you're like, man,
Speaker 1: me and this.
Speaker 3: Me and my homie, Man, we grew up together, and like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm at the baby.
Speaker 1: Show now it little tis not my dude. You're like, man, lit,
Speaker 1: tim is not my dude, and like you might not
Speaker 1: get little timmy until fucking ten years down the line.
Speaker 1: But like that's so important. But I see your perspective
Speaker 1: as well. I'm not being closed minded. I understand fully
Speaker 1: where you guys are coming from, and it makes sense
Speaker 1: I'm saying in the little thing about it like this,
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, if I don't make noise and
Speaker 1: the way I'll naturally make noise as myself, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not having me on this couch. I wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on forty two.
Speaker 2: We might last week on this couch because we need
Speaker 2: guests every week, but the challenge only needs twenty four
Speaker 2: people for a season and to get that spot you
Speaker 2: need to go on your little Jimmy Raan.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, that's my sophomore year anoying.
Speaker 1: There's only twenty four people. I new to myself that
Speaker 1: the problem is though that like people could say whatever
Speaker 1: they want about the way I talk, but I walk
Speaker 1: it the way that I talk it. It's not like
Speaker 1: I'm talking I can't back it up with athleticism and
Speaker 1: the talent because I displayed it and you saw it
Speaker 1: firs Sand. So that's why I know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: isn't wrong depending on the perspective you're looking at. But
Speaker 1: when I put myself in your shoes, I fully understand
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Fully, it's not like I never did.
Speaker 1: It's a senseing like I wasay, look, if I listen
Speaker 1: to what they's saying right now and I don't make
Speaker 1: noise being me, I'm not going to be back.
Speaker 3: And I get where your ship talking is from. It's
Speaker 3: just when you come after a family or you come
Speaker 3: after kids, like, it's a little deeper and it cuts
Speaker 3: a little.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is like, you know, I know
Speaker 1: you're new, and like I know you took that as
Speaker 1: him coming after a legitimate family member, him abstractly talking
Speaker 1: about a little Jimmy or Kenny or I don't care
Speaker 1: if you're so, Yeah, Leo, I want you to know,
Speaker 1: like I have a little I have a couple of
Speaker 1: screws loose too, you know, like so you know, like
Speaker 1: this guy, that happens, you know when you when you
Speaker 1: start talking like family and little Timmy, like I start
Speaker 1: thinking little cause it's like jumping the knife. Okay, Like
Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go there, but like don't go there because that's that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty close. That's pretty close. And like we never
Speaker 1: went after each other. But it doesn't matter, like regardless,
Speaker 1: like I appreciated like where you're coming from because he's
Speaker 1: different him.
Speaker 2: But let's be honest, that whole rookie cast was different.
Speaker 2: The audacity of your entire cast.
Speaker 1: The whole cast, because crazy. Well when we look at
Speaker 1: who they brought back, right, so they brought back you,
Speaker 1: they brought back Adrian, they brought back who I'm called
Speaker 1: Adrianne clarification, A say because Josh is calling her Adrianne.
Speaker 1: I thinks Adrian Adrian, Adrian, I say, you say Adrian Adrian, Right,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an Adrian Adrianne because he
Speaker 1: was trying to pronounce her name like Leanne.
Speaker 3: No, No, he was said, no, that's Adrian like her accent.
Speaker 3: It's Adrian, Adrian.
Speaker 1: It's actually Adrian. You guys, are you say it like Rocky?
Speaker 1: That's how I did it.
Speaker 2: So so they bring back Adrian, they bring back Sydney yourself,
Speaker 2: they bring back and we will and they bring back
Speaker 2: Justin right, and is so six people, But yeah, we're
Speaker 2: gonna get the easy we'renna get on the whole video.
Speaker 2: You guys just friends. We're gonna talk about that, trust me.
Speaker 1: But songs.
Speaker 2: You get six cast members come back from your cast.
Speaker 2: Is I think a way of saying, hey, you guys
Speaker 2: did a bang up job. And part of the way
Speaker 2: you guys did a backup job was you did not
Speaker 2: treat these guys like, oh my god, the legends, we're
Speaker 2: gonna run the show. Some of that ways there were,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it was your little Jimmy speech, some
Speaker 2: of it was the way you guys treated c T.
Speaker 2: Johnny Bananas getting eliminated by a Gabe. We don't see Gabe,
Speaker 2: but obviously you guys held your own. Ironically, we don't
Speaker 2: have the returning champ here Jeremy. He's the one guy
Speaker 2: who didn't get the call. But what I'll say is
Speaker 2: your cast as a whole, whether it's why they cast
Speaker 2: you or not, you came in there with a chip
Speaker 2: on your shoulder and you did not care about their
Speaker 2: legacies or their previous relationships. That suited you well both
Speaker 2: on the season, A lot of you guys did very
Speaker 2: well and then also for the callback. So that was
Speaker 2: the way to treat that season for you know, uh,
Speaker 2: this season now you're sophomores, right, there's another cropper rookies,
Speaker 2: You've got your analys, you got your your your Keyana's right,
Speaker 2: you're not necessarily immediately in the crop with the with
Speaker 2: the cts and the Johnnies, but you're also not on
Speaker 2: the rookie end either.
Speaker 1: See. But for me, though, at least on the personal,
Speaker 1: me and Johnny got close like this. We went to
Speaker 1: go film him him in la and that was the
Speaker 1: first time I got to really like really meet Bananas.
Speaker 1: He wasn't there long arsenal Right, yeah, so we're in studios.
Speaker 2: When you said him, you said film him. I was like,
Speaker 2: did you just fucking film him? Like, yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 2: So there's a movie that was a was a trade
Speaker 2: off for the show that you guys had a challenge
Speaker 2: during the season. There was him base and then you
Speaker 2: guys got.
Speaker 1: Him and little Timmy fell in love and if you
Speaker 1: guys were actually there with the yeah, that experience. It
Speaker 1: was really cool because I've been to Studio City before
Speaker 1: to film another pilot while I was off of Love Island,
Speaker 1: and it was a lot of fun being like on
Speaker 1: the legit sets right, going through security, you go through
Speaker 1: everything and then mind, I'm just a kid. So like
Speaker 1: I just wanted to go to the Universal. I said, look,
Speaker 1: I'll do this. They paid me obviously, but I was like, look,
Speaker 1: my real pay is going to Universal fast Pass for
Speaker 1: all the Rise Free. That's all I cared about at
Speaker 1: the very least. I didn't care about anything else. I
Speaker 1: was like, bro, I just want to go on these rides.
Speaker 1: Me and Johnny ran a two man mission and was
Speaker 1: so fucking fun and we got high as fuck off
Speaker 1: his like he has like these edibles a meeks, bro,
Speaker 1: if you micro dose on the Rise. It was it
Speaker 1: was it was ethereal right, no bulls yeah, something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But we go on set and we're filming on set,
Speaker 1: and mind you, the night before we have to get
Speaker 1: the movie to under like to study our lines because
Speaker 1: it was legitimate like acting, and we're just spending a
Speaker 1: lot of time together. And I had this girl with
Speaker 1: me and we're just chilling, had his girl with him.
Speaker 1: We're having a good time, and he's like, yo, like
Speaker 1: let's go get dinner. I'm like, yo, I'm down. It
Speaker 1: was just me and him, nobody else, just me and him,
Speaker 1: and through that dinner, like I started to realize very fast,
Speaker 1: like Wow, this dude's a lot like me and we
Speaker 1: have a lot in common. I'd love to like learn
Speaker 1: from him, right, And you didn't get that sets on
Speaker 1: the show because I had this tunnel vision mindset already,
Speaker 1: Like it was like premeditated, like I'm going in there,
Speaker 1: I don't care what they've done. I'm not glazing them.
Speaker 1: And they're amazing. You're you're an amazing dude.
Speaker 2: I'm aware.
Speaker 1: I've seen all. I've seen the pole wrestle, I've seen
Speaker 1: all that. I had to study right, but in my
Speaker 1: hand I also had to like push that away and
Speaker 1: be like, nah, this is another man, and I'm a
Speaker 1: man too. I know he's older than me, I know
Speaker 1: he has more experience, doesn't matter. I have the same
Speaker 1: opportunity that he's given. I have to maximize. You cannot maximize.
Speaker 1: If you put someone on the pedestal, you're already below them.
Speaker 1: So I went in there like, I not hated you
Speaker 1: because he hates a strong word. But when I compete,
Speaker 1: like I played division on baseball, when I'm going to
Speaker 1: gets a pitch, Dude, I've been up against Jack later
Speaker 1: like the like first round drop Dayton in Ohio, got it.
Speaker 1: So when you're going up against these guys, you cannot
Speaker 1: go in there thinking, oh my god, like he's going
Speaker 1: first round. Now he can suck my dick two in
Speaker 1: the whole roster, because you cannot give your best performance.
Speaker 1: If you're already glazing from the start, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: So the competition's over. There were in La were at
Speaker 1: a nice dinner, having a great time, and that's start
Speaker 1: I get to really meet bananas and dude, he's become
Speaker 1: like an older brother to me, no bullshit. And the
Speaker 1: irony of that is he lives directly next to my
Speaker 1: older brother, my actual older brother, and that's like by coincidence.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck, but he just he
Speaker 1: has my back. He looks out for me. He wants
Speaker 1: the best for me, and I want the best for him,
Speaker 1: and he's making sure I'm putting myself in great doors
Speaker 1: to keep this career on TV going and going like
Speaker 1: he has. It's like a fast forward to little Timmy
Speaker 1: is just like exactly not you know, bananas, we're ever
Speaker 1: going to have kids, but you guys will have dinners
Speaker 1: together and it'll be about I don't care if you
Speaker 1: already had dinner together, but but you know, you understand
Speaker 1: the idea of bonding with people and having a camaraderie.
Speaker 1: What I just realized he is this is his challenge
Speaker 1: maaning and debut. Yeah, that's my first time on here.
Speaker 2: When when people do our podcast for the first time,
Speaker 2: we like to get their casting story. Okay, so tell
Speaker 2: us about your first show and how you wound up
Speaker 2: on that show. Where were you in your life? You
Speaker 2: mentioned D one baseball. I actually didn't know that about
Speaker 2: you till this very second.
Speaker 1: Didn't know that.
Speaker 2: No, So walk me through that where you were in
Speaker 2: life and how you wound up on the first show
Speaker 2: that got you on TV.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm a junior in college, like a true
Speaker 1: junior in college. I'm playing Division on baseball a Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: right and it's going good. But I had like a
Speaker 1: recent tragedy that in that time my life, when my
Speaker 1: grandfather died. And it's not like your grandfather that you
Speaker 1: just see every once in like this dude was like
Speaker 1: the only person that I've ever lost, and he was
Speaker 1: like my best friend, Like it was, dude, that's itIt
Speaker 1: was super hard for me to deal with, and like
Speaker 1: I just kept pushing it down and my coach could
Speaker 1: tell with my performance. It was like, dude, like you
Speaker 1: need a break, like your offer will be here. Take
Speaker 1: all the time you need, like you have because I
Speaker 1: had a red red shirt freshman year, so you could
Speaker 1: play short, top second base, but then they had me
Speaker 1: second base, center field because he was like, dude, you're fast,
Speaker 1: tell like we need you in the outfield. But your
Speaker 1: red shirt year, you could play up to like six
Speaker 1: games and it doesn't go it doesn't count because you
Speaker 1: read shirt, but you still get the experience. So I
Speaker 1: did that freshman year, then sophomore year, come back, lose
Speaker 1: my Grandpa and it's the start of my junior year,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, like I just need to break,
Speaker 1: so I take a semester off. I'm not even in
Speaker 1: score this, so I just take a full semester off
Speaker 1: and like, man, like I feel lost in life. Like
Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons I wanted to play
Speaker 1: baseball was because my grandfa and he's a big Yankee fan,
Speaker 1: Like he just meant the world to me, right, But
Speaker 1: in this off period, and I'm still training, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not just sitting on my ass, I'm still training, getting
Speaker 1: ready to come back for the next season. But I
Speaker 1: took the fall winter winter semester off because I just
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do classes. Man, and I'm training. I
Speaker 1: get this DM. It's like, Hey, we're shooting this dating show.
Speaker 1: Would you like to go on send us the information
Speaker 1: by blah. I said, yeah, go fuck yourself. I thought
Speaker 1: it was a scam because hold them and go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1: Bar for bar, I said fuck no, like this is
Speaker 1: a scam. To Hal, She's like, send me your number.
Speaker 1: Your email was like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it. To be fair, it sounds and looks like
Speaker 1: a scam, yes, because the way that casting reach out
Speaker 1: looks is suspect a scam. Yes, they follow in a
Speaker 1: way it is a scam. Let's kind of they follow
Speaker 1: ten thousand people. Yeah, and they have like two hundred followers,
Speaker 1: so those numbers already look like a burner account of
Speaker 1: someone they don't actually put out context. No, they don't
Speaker 1: I know two hundred people following them or the people
Speaker 1: they actually cast who like oh and the people already cast,
Speaker 1: the people they're friends with you, right, And to make
Speaker 1: it worse, they'll send you a link. So when she
Speaker 1: send me that link, I was like, yeah, you could
Speaker 1: suck my dick from the base of the balls. There's
Speaker 1: no way. I'm there's no way I'm pressing it. Unity
Speaker 1: dumb as fuck. If you ever press a random link,
Speaker 1: you have two brain cells in your fucking hand, So
Speaker 1: lock in. Don't ever do that shit. So she has
Speaker 1: to call me via Instagram and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a real person. So she showed
Speaker 1: me all this stuff. She has to show me on
Speaker 1: her laptop like this because I wouldn't press the link,
Speaker 1: So I had to like verbally fill out the application.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. So I'm thinking, man, there's some
Speaker 1: bullshit I'm losing. I'm like so sad about my grandfather.
Speaker 1: Let me keep training, go in the gym and just
Speaker 1: lock in. And as time goes on, I keep getting
Speaker 1: more updates. Hey, we want to have an interview with you.
Speaker 1: Be shirtless, in a bathing suit and like a nice
Speaker 1: lit room so we can have a talk. See your body,
Speaker 1: see how you talk. Because it's it's Love Island. You
Speaker 1: can't be chopped you dang. Yeah, you have to have personality.
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't really have to know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So after that, I go through like ten more interviews
Speaker 1: over zoom and then once they really fuck with you, like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to fly you to Fiji. But don't get
Speaker 1: too excited because we're flying out everyone that we like
Speaker 1: at this point to Fiji. So they fly bro, they
Speaker 1: fly out like fifty people to Fiji. There's not even
Speaker 1: fifty people that go in on the show, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, Like I already told my whole school
Speaker 1: I'm going on Love Island and told my homeboys. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: if I don't go on Love Island, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to move back to my homeland, Dominican Republic, and just
Speaker 1: fucking go on hiatus, throw my phone in the ocean,
Speaker 1: act like I never said that shit, like my life
Speaker 1: is over with because I didn't even lie. It was
Speaker 1: more like manifesting my head. Or you just didn't realize
Speaker 1: that you weren't as close as you thought you were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the gravity of the situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then you go to Fiji and then they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: you have five interviews in Fiji. You have to nail
Speaker 1: every single one. They want to make sure your body
Speaker 1: looks as good in person, because, mind you, all those
Speaker 1: other interviews was over zoom. Anyone could look good over camera,
Speaker 1: anyone could look good on social media, but no one
Speaker 1: can fake looking good in person. If you look good
Speaker 1: in person, and you got the person, I brought your
Speaker 1: fucking in there. So I'm talking the way I talk.
Speaker 1: There's no filter. I'm being myself and I'm being like
Speaker 1: I like to dress up, I like to look good
Speaker 1: in any environment. And they're like, yo, like we really
Speaker 1: like this kid. So they put me in a room
Speaker 1: and it was it was super trippy. It was during
Speaker 1: a like end of COVID times it was twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: so they got I got the mask on. They like
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, like, look, no, it's twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Actually not twenty twenty one, twenty twenty three, but there's
Speaker 1: in Fiji. They still had COVID going on bath, so
Speaker 1: they had the mask on. They're talking to me like this.
Speaker 1: They're like, look, we'd hate to break the news to you, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm about to start crying. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I fucked up so bad doing this whole thing. And
Speaker 1: they go, yeah, you're gonna be the first guy to
Speaker 1: walk in. Dude, I start crying. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Like because you're going through so many emotions, you don't
Speaker 1: know how to regulate. It's it's I've never been a situation.
Speaker 1: So they're like, okay, boom and three days time and
Speaker 1: three days time, you're gonna go be the first guy
Speaker 1: to walk in the villa. And that's it.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 1: Oh you were the first guy. I was the first
Speaker 1: guy to walk in the villa. Season girls, No, I was.
Speaker 1: All the girls had already walked in, and I'm the
Speaker 1: first guy. They gets a judge. Oh, so all the
Speaker 1: girls that already come at the same time, and I'm
Speaker 1: the first guy. They're like, okay. Reminds me of the
Speaker 1: time I was on swing right spring spring break. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Miami and dr.
Speaker 3: Me and me and some random fucking posted up onto
Speaker 3: like chairs.
Speaker 1: And they had a scouting company.
Speaker 3: We had we had a yeah, we had the numbers
Speaker 3: one through ten and on the.
Speaker 1: This sounds like fucking Bangkok. And then when the girls
Speaker 1: shower we would get we would give them taking number
Speaker 1: nineteen for the night, thank you. We would give the
Speaker 1: numbers like all right, four, nine, Oh yeah, that was
Speaker 1: some dog. But I was like, I was like a leo.
Speaker 1: How old were you? You know, twenty?
Speaker 2: So give us three right now? Yeah, give give us
Speaker 2: a clipsouse.
Speaker 1: How did you do on Love Island? I know that
Speaker 1: the goal there is to what what is it? So?
Speaker 1: Is essentially to find your partner, you love your life.
Speaker 1: So when you walked in and there was all these women,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, which one? Which one? I gotta catch
Speaker 1: them all? They go with?
Speaker 2: What did you go with? Catch them all? Like pokey bitches?
Speaker 1: Yes, pokemon and.
Speaker 3: Yo and and so and so you're on Love Island
Speaker 3: season what versus Josh's Love Island season?
Speaker 1: So I'm on season five. Josh is on season three.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so he was before you. He did it
Speaker 1: two years before me. Did anybody from the Challenge World
Speaker 1: do your season? My season?
Speaker 2: I'm a soul so so so so how did you
Speaker 2: do on the season?
Speaker 1: Did you win?
Speaker 2: You find love?
Speaker 1: You win money? At so? I came in second on
Speaker 1: Love Island, but it was a crazy roller coaster way
Speaker 1: to second place because I had hooked up with two
Speaker 1: different girls and no one has ever done that before
Speaker 1: on Love Island. Really, I thought I thought it was
Speaker 1: I thought Love Island was a game where you just
Speaker 1: like pass around, not to win, maybe like to lose
Speaker 1: their old their whole lot was like you want to
Speaker 1: like find your couple, and somebody, oh, you're closed off
Speaker 1: too early, or you know you're doing too much and
Speaker 1: you're going to the girl too much. I was more
Speaker 1: of the I'm going to the girl too much because
Speaker 1: I started off with this girl from the start. Right.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call her v for now because I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna name her by Viv because you know, her fans,
Speaker 1: her fans be doing the most, and I'm not going back.
Speaker 1: What do we call her fief? What we'll call her K.
Speaker 2: We'll call her k Okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So me and K are coupled up from the first day, right,
Speaker 1: and everything's going good. You think we're gonna be there
Speaker 1: in the end, blah blah blah. But then comes some
Speaker 1: you know, some more is the house some more, like say,
Speaker 1: we're all the guys in here, right, they send our
Speaker 1: girls to another villa and they get tested. They test
Speaker 1: our romance with other guys, and then they bring in
Speaker 1: new girls for us to test our romance with. Those
Speaker 1: girls were the test, Like they come in there like hey, like, oh,
Speaker 1: like your girl's not here? Is just me? Like what
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? Like they're trying to test if
Speaker 1: you want them or the new girl that like the
Speaker 1: new candy that came in front of you.
Speaker 3: You were you like, yeah, I'm kind of interested in
Speaker 3: all of you.
Speaker 1: First night I had the first night, No, not in love.
Speaker 1: I had sex with the girls the first night.
Speaker 2: We're gonna call her something different, say who she was?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah that girl? Yeah? Actually though, so Jean
Speaker 1: j have sex, right, and what's her name? Johnny? Does
Speaker 1: she do it? Was funny that you said does she
Speaker 1: do anything? Now?
Speaker 2: Is she?
Speaker 1: I don't keep up liking nice girl, but she influence.
Speaker 1: She's influencer five hundred thousand followers. I don't know. I've
Speaker 1: seen her concept. I don't know her follow She makes
Speaker 1: really good content though, But all I know is that
Speaker 1: I hook up with Jay. We have sex, right, nice
Speaker 1: and a boy, and I'm thinking, like, man, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because I'm twenty one. I'm just here. I really
Speaker 1: say my intro, I'm I don't know if I'm here
Speaker 1: for that. I'm here for just to experience, you know, life.
Speaker 1: But I happened you're going after it. Yeah, So we
Speaker 1: look up. Cassie comes back, she gets mad, and then
Speaker 1: Johnny's like, well, I'm trying to stay I'm trying to
Speaker 1: stay here too. Things don't work out with me and Johnny.
Speaker 1: I try to go back to Cassie. Somehow, someway, me
Speaker 1: and Cassie end up in second place after all that nonsense.
Speaker 1: Oh you got second place.
Speaker 2: It's a fan vote.
Speaker 1: Was like, they deserve second place, and I'm like, huh,
Speaker 1: I don't think I deserve any of this because I
Speaker 1: was moving fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: It's a big, big loss for women empowerment.
Speaker 1: Rather Jesus correct, just to stay in the context of
Speaker 1: like the Challenge universes happening. Now, where did Josh.
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 1: Josh's situation is really bad? Oh, in a sense of
Speaker 1: like just sad, like not he didn't fuck up his
Speaker 1: his sister passed away season. Yeah, so he had to
Speaker 1: leave and that was like one of the things I
Speaker 1: saw that was like, bro, I wouldn't I wouldn't wish
Speaker 1: that on anybody, like it was. It was hard for
Speaker 1: me to watch because I have a twin sister and
Speaker 1: older sister. I generally would never wish that on my
Speaker 1: worst enemy. Like, just watching was was just hard. So
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it's like for him in that situation.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think him and his girl
Speaker 1: he was with the girl name of Shannon, I think
Speaker 1: they might have won. They could have won because they
Speaker 1: had a really good connection.
Speaker 2: But when not, what do you get when you win?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I know everyone watching this.
Speaker 1: You got one hundred thousand dollars that she has to
Speaker 1: split with your girls, so you have fifty bands each.
Speaker 2: What's crazy for a show that is that popular and.
Speaker 1: It is, you would think it would have more money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get on for a second. You don't getting on for
Speaker 1: a second the acting more brand deals. That's it. But no,
Speaker 1: well and also well and walk into the challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what I want to get the time.
Speaker 1: Did you get second place money? This is part two
Speaker 1: of the challenge of the casting story? So how did
Speaker 1: you wind up on the challenge?
Speaker 2: So you do that? You said twenty twenty three, here
Speaker 2: we are now twenty twenty five is when you film
Speaker 2: and appear on forty one?
Speaker 1: And what are you posting at the time? Because I
Speaker 1: just like to make music. I like to just post
Speaker 1: my lifestyle content. And someone hits you up and they're like,
Speaker 1: least he hits you up, and she's like she's like yo,
Speaker 1: Like would you want to try the show? And it
Speaker 1: was between that and Love Island Games, but Love Island
Speaker 1: was being like they do like some push bullshit. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not a guinea pig. So Lizzy gave me like
Speaker 1: a legitimate starter option. I was like, I'd be dumb
Speaker 1: to say no to that. Why not try another experience?
Speaker 1: If it's right there, you can wait. Have you seen
Speaker 1: the challenge at all? Did you care about the show
Speaker 1: at I've only knew who st was because I'm from
Speaker 1: the Northeast, and he's been like a spoken about names.
Speaker 2: Somebody probably beat somebody up that works at a deli
Speaker 2: near you.
Speaker 1: No, but like CT is like a well known name
Speaker 1: where I'm from. Well, you're from you're from? You live
Speaker 1: in CT? Yeah, CT, C T and all of you
Speaker 1: come on ye pause. But that's that's the extent. That's
Speaker 1: the extent. So you had never watched the show? You
Speaker 1: know John Bananas was I've seen clips, I've known Bananas,
Speaker 1: I known of Carra, I know CT, but cars also
Speaker 1: from the Boston area. Who else? I think that's it.
Speaker 2: Now when you get cast, when they say, hey you
Speaker 2: want to do do you brush up on the show
Speaker 2: at all? Do you give yourself a crash? Course, you
Speaker 2: get a paramount.
Speaker 1: Plus No, I don't know I can compete. She gave
Speaker 1: me the like the the premise of the show, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, you're like love is blind, the
Speaker 1: challenge is blind too. I'm just like, I've done this
Speaker 1: most of my life, pizza, and it's not like it's
Speaker 1: not going to be a hard transition for me.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so do you feel like now having done
Speaker 2: your rookie season, do you feel like you should have
Speaker 2: maybe prepared yourself more.
Speaker 1: Or was it you?
Speaker 2: I know you try the way you talk about glazing
Speaker 2: and not like that. Is it Is it good that
Speaker 2: you didn't? Would would that have gotten in the way
Speaker 2: of I.
Speaker 1: Think it would have gotten the way of me from
Speaker 1: like I think I would have started overthinking. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because, like I said, I'm a natural
Speaker 1: when it comes to just life the puzzles. I did
Speaker 1: really good in the math, I could do really good
Speaker 1: in until with Ashley and then she starts tweaking. But
Speaker 1: the competing, I knew most people are not fascinating than
Speaker 1: most people are not strong, that most people don't know
Speaker 1: how to move their body the way I know how
Speaker 1: to move my own body. So I was like, if
Speaker 1: I did too much studying, am I did? I didn't
Speaker 1: like a certain amount of study, but not overdoing it,
Speaker 1: because if you do too much and you start to
Speaker 1: psyte yourself out, you start toe like. The best you're
Speaker 1: gonna perform is when you're loose, when you're relaxed. That's
Speaker 1: what my coaches always said growing up. If I can
Speaker 1: play division sports, which is one of the hardest fucking
Speaker 1: things to do, you think there's gonna be a differ
Speaker 1: in mindset going to the challenge, Like the challenge is
Speaker 1: not harder than the journey to playing at the highest
Speaker 1: leg the highest level of like collegiate sports is not
Speaker 1: real quick. You mean so unless you lose, No, I
Speaker 1: want to.
Speaker 2: Hear real quick.
Speaker 1: The cliff notes to you getting to playing D one
Speaker 1: at Dayton. And so you grew up in Did you
Speaker 1: grow up in Connecticut? Grew up in Connecticut and New
Speaker 1: York and so?
Speaker 2: And you mentioned your Dominican Are you born in the States?
Speaker 2: Were you born there?
Speaker 1: I was born in the States, but I spent my
Speaker 1: summers in dr training hard God, and obviously Dominican Republic
Speaker 1: breeds baseball players left and right. Yeah, so you grew
Speaker 1: up in Connecticut? What what city in Connecticut? West Harford,
Speaker 1: West Harvard. Okay, so I'm fro Stanford, Connecticut. Shout out
Speaker 1: to the two of three. How far is that from
Speaker 1: each other? About like an hour hour fifteen hour far? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's closer towards like connect is like a rectinglem
Speaker 1: and like a tip, he's near the tip near New York.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So, and what is the path to getting
Speaker 2: to D one base? My my I'm selfish asking him.
Speaker 2: He's got a senior high school. I've got a seven
Speaker 2: year old. I just love to know when did you realize, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is something I'm gonna go full four song? Was
Speaker 2: it somebod you always wanted to do?
Speaker 1: Twelve years old?
Speaker 2: That's when you kicked it in high gear?
Speaker 1: Twelve years old, dude, when you grew up with a
Speaker 1: Dominican family.
Speaker 2: Sounds late to me. Late, I'm dude, I'm they make
Speaker 2: you feel now if your kid is not going almost
Speaker 2: nine months a year on whatever sport they're telling him
Speaker 2: he's going, he's got to give up on these three sports.
Speaker 1: This is the drastic difference. I'm Dominican, yes, and you
Speaker 1: guys are Caucasian, right, sure, yes, this is the difference
Speaker 1: less unless unless you grew up in Texas, Yes, California
Speaker 1: or Florida. Sure you would understand, but even then you
Speaker 1: wouldn't understand the full extent. When you go to d
Speaker 1: R and you go into slums where I was training.
Speaker 1: I'm not training fucking Punta Khan or something. But is
Speaker 1: that happening before twelve or no, I'm I'm doing this
Speaker 1: at like fourteen?
Speaker 2: Oh really?
Speaker 1: Because at twelve I was already dominating where I was
Speaker 1: at without the rigorous Dominican format of training.
Speaker 2: Got it.
Speaker 1: But my dad sold the potential of me at twelve
Speaker 1: and he's always seen it. But like he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: he's hold of them not to really go hard. He
Speaker 1: shipped me out to DR to go train at an academy.
Speaker 1: You have to understand these kids are gifted number one, right,
Speaker 1: they work hard so that means their gifts are being amplified.
Speaker 1: And number three, there's no fallback. For example, you go
Speaker 1: play baseball at Stanford University, you go play at fucking
Speaker 1: Southern Connecticut. For the sake of the argument. Yeah, D
Speaker 1: two nice Nai not nice D two school. Right, you
Speaker 1: don't do good in baseball, guess what, you have a degree,
Speaker 1: you can be a dentist. You do whatever in DR.
Speaker 1: If you don't make it in baseball. Most of them
Speaker 1: give up time at school to lock in so hard
Speaker 1: on baseball that they it's literally go big or go home.
Speaker 1: So if you don't make it in DR, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be backing groceries, you're working a farm, You're gonna be jobless,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be helping your family whatever, the fuck They
Speaker 1: are ready to do. There's no fallback. It's like you
Speaker 1: ever hear the vikings that they burnt the boats when
Speaker 1: they go raid a fucking an island or of because
Speaker 1: there's there's no plan B. If there's no plan B,
Speaker 1: you have to you have no choice but to succeed.
Speaker 1: You have to win.
Speaker 2: And so he shipped you out to dr to have
Speaker 2: that mindset and that training regiment because here in the
Speaker 2: States peyfically.
Speaker 1: Connecticut, we don't have that, which I love that for
Speaker 1: not even close. Well, it's funny. So I'm a big
Speaker 1: baseball fan and I and I have these guys on mine.
Speaker 1: I would do a dynasty baseball league where I'm going on,
Speaker 1: you're twenty or something, and I'll have some of these
Speaker 1: kids on my team. I had vlat Garro Junior on
Speaker 1: my team. I grand Da as a famous father. It's
Speaker 1: a little different. When he was sixteen years old. I
Speaker 1: just got hees just made on my team. He's he's uh,
Speaker 1: he's I think it's Dominican. Uh.
Speaker 2: And and I've found on my team was seventeen years old.
Speaker 1: Things like that. So to me, I do the math,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they must have been playing store nine vibes
Speaker 1: you're saying. Still, once you start in DR, that resets
Speaker 1: your course. I'm telling you to any of those facilities
Speaker 1: in DR, your mind will open like you've never seen before,
Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying that you're training hours
Speaker 1: on your knees, just backhand five hundred reps, fourhand, five
Speaker 1: hundred reps. You try to tell a twelve year old
Speaker 1: kid to do that. In America, Mom, I want a
Speaker 1: juice box on my knees hurt. They don't give a
Speaker 1: rat's ass because they know what it takes to be great.
Speaker 1: They know the amount of repetition you need to succeed,
Speaker 1: and not only succeed, but master a skill. You don't
Speaker 1: just way. Oh yeah, I'm just gonna fucking hit five hundred,
Speaker 1: get a gold glove and be silver selected. So you
Speaker 1: end up getting a degree, Yeah, I already graduated. I
Speaker 1: have a communication degree with a focus in UH and
Speaker 1: marketing and economics.
Speaker 2: You better than I am, and let me just be honest.
Speaker 1: You do more.
Speaker 2: You you've learned more in your being a influencer in
Speaker 2: TV personality marketing then you learned by getting a degree.
Speaker 1: No, ironically, the marketing school actually has helped me a lot,
Speaker 1: and what I do right now it helps me. That's it.
Speaker 1: But the but the class that majored, like the caminaries,
Speaker 1: you have to do like you have to do, you know,
Speaker 1: bullshake less like history that has nothing to do with marketing. Sure,
Speaker 1: but when I took my focused courses, but I would
Speaker 1: go to office hours because I genuinely wanted to learn.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go pay them ten grand a
Speaker 1: year and not actually fucking learn shit. But the iron,
Speaker 1: you know is there's chat gybt with that you probably
Speaker 1: don't even need to go to school chat GBT.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people focus on chat gbt
Speaker 2: AI as being like a way to circumvent and get
Speaker 2: around doing work. I think though, it's working its own right,
Speaker 2: and it's a tool you can use and.
Speaker 1: You have to have an imagination of your own in
Speaker 1: order to master chatgybt. Sure did you put any prompt,
Speaker 1: But if you don't put it to it, like a
Speaker 1: specific amount of detail in that prompt, you're just saying
Speaker 1: basic word.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm been holding this out. This is a perfect
Speaker 2: place to put this rant. I'm so sick of these people.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look directly at the camera. You pieces of
Speaker 2: shit to comment on all of our flyers or DM
Speaker 2: me and try to say watch your hower A designer
Speaker 2: for this. Listen, motherfucker, I'm not taking with the flyer.
Speaker 1: No a flyer. I use my chat GBT to make
Speaker 1: the ship that before I was making on Canva, and
Speaker 1: before that I was Canva is so annoying before that
Speaker 1: I was making with I'm making it no matter what.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking job I would. You know what my
Speaker 1: point is, My flyers are looking okay, but people just
Speaker 1: see AI and they get mad. It doesn't matter. I
Speaker 1: can help you with that easy without even having to
Speaker 1: use AI. I mean you could use AI, but make
Speaker 1: it look likely you're using Canva.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I don't need to make anything. I
Speaker 2: just want these people shut the fuck up because I
Speaker 2: think it looks great.
Speaker 1: So do you people see you can make it look
Speaker 1: even more realistic if you say, adding these people without
Speaker 1: changing any details in the characteristics of X y z
Speaker 1: z Z.
Speaker 2: The term that I use is keep all photo realistic
Speaker 2: likeness preserved. Trust me, I know how to use about it.
Speaker 2: But you know my point is is that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Once people see they see certain things and they know
Speaker 2: you're using it. It's almost, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: a credit to work. Because they know this is too good.
Speaker 2: It must be a they're mad. They're on some weird
Speaker 2: that's that's big optimism. They're on some weird bot driven
Speaker 2: mission to just shame everybody out of use the AI. Listen,
Speaker 2: go to Microsoft or AT and T or some big company.
Speaker 2: You think it's taking jobs with people, we're not not
Speaker 2: employing the reason we don't hire it. Look if a
Speaker 2: designer could turn around the thing in ten seconds and
Speaker 2: not tell me to shut the fuck up when I
Speaker 2: change it three times in a row, then I would
Speaker 2: hire a design but they that doesn't exist. Trust me,
Speaker 2: I'm not taking jobs from anybody. Guys, stop fucking messaging me.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be a Lisa mad me.
Speaker 5: Take a goddamn no more me about AI. I don't
Speaker 5: want to hear it for him. Any things that sound
Speaker 5: like a bow when I talk about AI. Look, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna use great fellow.
Speaker 2: Fuck with me, all right, tell Michelle, I say, look,
Speaker 2: tel so.
Speaker 1: We're gonna use it. Can we trans the challenge forty two? Yeah?
Speaker 3: This man right here, the highest show and everything that
Speaker 3: he's got going on you guys first and foremost, real.
Speaker 1: Quick before we get for you can ask about because
Speaker 1: I don't think it happened on forty.
Speaker 2: You can ask him. But the real quick they're gonna
Speaker 2: like it. The the you and is he after is
Speaker 2: that I gotta ask about it now, all right because
Speaker 2: if you guys, you're on like a Rick shar or something.
Speaker 2: She looks highest. Fuck, dude, we were faded, sure, but
Speaker 2: you know how to wear it better than her. She
Speaker 2: looks like she's about to fucking fall.
Speaker 1: She looks like she's in a fall.
Speaker 2: She's literally like, no, she was fucking compisated. We look
Speaker 2: like she's got out of a Dolorean and fucking back
Speaker 2: to the future. But anyway, you guys, you're having a
Speaker 2: good time. She's got the sideboob going all right, and
Speaker 2: and and you got the caption that says just friends, okay,
Speaker 2: now my girlfriend, and we're all like, so, so I
Speaker 2: got to ask because we know, you know you like
Speaker 2: to get around.
Speaker 1: We thought that was Corey's girlfriend, and.
Speaker 2: There were rumors that you and other girls on last
Speaker 2: season whatnot, But we didn't hear about her and you
Speaker 2: on last season her about her and Rogan obviously a
Speaker 2: little bit, and she's been on dating shows herself. I
Speaker 2: believe I want to know walk us through that. Is
Speaker 2: there anything going on with you?
Speaker 1: Guys? See, there's nothing going on with me and Livia
Speaker 1: and Isy, So this is this is the loure. So
Speaker 1: after the challenge was all wrapped up and done, we decid, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just go and explore Thailand. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm down right.
Speaker 3: You guys got close enough to her, You're like, but
Speaker 3: they know this together, we trust each other.
Speaker 1: Remember who's my top three girls from Pretty Women? Is
Speaker 1: he Adrian? And those are like my fucking bunny girls,
Speaker 1: the UK girls? And why do you turned on them? No?
Speaker 1: I turned on Adrian given the situation, because she's a claim,
Speaker 1: I think we turned little. I think we turned on
Speaker 1: them together. So just saying technically episode three, she comes
Speaker 1: off as kind of claim Leo, Leo, Adrian Adrianne with Josh.
Speaker 1: I mean, can he put his armor on the race
Speaker 1: and she's going name ship. That's that's kind of a claim.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. Sage five, me, you and little Timmy
Speaker 1: were kind of Me and Timmy were like this and
Speaker 1: we were there, we were there right right? Like roll
Speaker 1: t me out, Timmy rolled up? I mean you were like,
Speaker 1: we're right there. Yeah, we're basically in the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what is he right? We're exploring Thailand? He's already
Speaker 1: been like each other? Is he and I already like
Speaker 1: like really really good friends? Sure? But are you friends
Speaker 1: with benefittes? No? But we're exploring. We're exploring Thailand. Are
Speaker 1: you better friends than her and Corey? Better friends? One thousand?
Speaker 1: He just met her, I've known her for a minute.
Speaker 1: We said, I don't know. All I know is me
Speaker 1: And is he like this? We're cool? That's my homegirl vibe.
Speaker 1: You were like there, ain't there?
Speaker 2: I know you were like, were you ever like this?
Speaker 1: What is this mean?
Speaker 2: Tip to tip, I'm just saying I want you guys
Speaker 2: on that rickshaw the way she's just gliding in your arms.
Speaker 2: But this is the thing that those we're not cousin.
Speaker 1: Vibes, bro, We're fucking we're vibing through talent. And you
Speaker 1: gotta understand is he's a beautiful girl, like like actually stunning,
Speaker 1: nice eyes. I've been nice skin, I've been pretty face right,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm a straight I'm a straight man, I
Speaker 1: would literally have to be gay to be like damn bro,
Speaker 1: like I'm not with that ship. I was definitely down
Speaker 1: to vibe is he But the problem is this is
Speaker 1: it lives in the UK and we talked about this
Speaker 1: her night before that, Like I was like, bro, I
Speaker 1: think like she had like we're there for a while
Speaker 1: for like almost two months and tied her and I
Speaker 1: right and Nelson were there too, so we're all vibing,
Speaker 1: three of us. But he even though it's like yo,
Speaker 1: like you guys are are really getting getting goodvide to
Speaker 1: you like yeah, but we're just friends, like nothing actually happened,
Speaker 1: but the vibe was like I was like, yo, I
Speaker 1: think I loved you for real like that like not
Speaker 1: even you love her for real, not like that, but
Speaker 1: like in es sense of like I think he loved it. Bro,
Speaker 1: I saw the fucking video, Dude, I think he loves
Speaker 1: it for real too. Bro. I love Izzy like she
Speaker 1: has my heart, Like that's my really good friend. And
Speaker 1: I think I told I don't know if I told
Speaker 1: her this, but like the truth of it from my
Speaker 1: side of it at least, is I think I would
Speaker 1: try to date Izzy heavy on, try to you. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's reciprocated, but I would try to
Speaker 1: date Izzy if one she didn't live in the UK,
Speaker 1: because you know, I like physical touch, I like see
Speaker 1: my girl off. And two if we didn't work together,
Speaker 1: because what happens if I fuck up this friendship? If
Speaker 1: the relationship doesn' when we fuck the friendship. This is
Speaker 1: one of my closest dearest friends. Her and Adrian are
Speaker 1: like this with me. But when her and I discovered
Speaker 1: Throughout the season, it's like, yo, me and her and
Speaker 1: Adrian came to the season like this together, all of us,
Speaker 1: but me and Izzy got to this point that I
Speaker 1: couldn't I can't even put into words. It was like
Speaker 1: it was like, you're living in a romantic comedy, but
Speaker 1: there's way more romance in comedy because there's so many
Speaker 1: nights where I was like looking at her, I was like, yo, like, huh,
Speaker 1: I actually like you? Like I don't even mean I
Speaker 1: like I actually like Izzy, Like I really liked her
Speaker 1: at that point, right, And it was hard to navigate
Speaker 1: because I told her it's not a surprise to her,
Speaker 1: but I was like, damn, like I'm spending every second
Speaker 1: with this girl. She's my exact type. She's beautiful, she's athletic,
Speaker 1: she likes to have fun. We have the same humor.
Speaker 1: The humor is what gets me. So I was like, bro, like,
Speaker 1: this girl's fucking perfant.
Speaker 2: Its possible that the first time you've actually liked to girl,
Speaker 2: you didn't try to bang her like and you just
Speaker 2: tried to bang everyone else in life.
Speaker 1: The thing is, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: If it sounds insane, you're talking to me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: pursuit were talking about my daughter, I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: go got go out. You're saying very sweet, nice things
Speaker 2: about it. Normally I hear you talking no offense, I
Speaker 2: hear you talking about women, and you're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: shout in yeah because very nice.
Speaker 1: You see, I don't take girls serious. But is he
Speaker 1: has like this really special place in my heart and
Speaker 1: I'm not even bullshit around. She's a true special place
Speaker 1: in my heart where it activates the actual version of me. Well,
Speaker 1: you see, when I'm talking on the light skeinshit, that's
Speaker 1: just the facade. But she she's been around me long
Speaker 1: enough to see the actual lover boy that's inside of me.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know how to display because I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I love you, but I cannot ruin what we already have.
Speaker 1: There's no way. Because I ruin we have, she's going
Speaker 1: to be back.
Speaker 2: You see it as it's ruined or nothing. There's no
Speaker 2: in between. You can't just not run.
Speaker 1: I know myself, like, if I find a way to
Speaker 1: fuck it up, and I mean me, like, if I
Speaker 1: fuck it up, I'm like, bro, if I lose Izzy
Speaker 1: out of my life, I'll be so so butt hurt.
Speaker 1: Let's call her, call her wait before we do that,
Speaker 1: But how does that? How does that work with like
Speaker 1: you and fucking Corey? What do you mean Corey? Corey? Wait?
Speaker 1: You're bringing Corey into this? Why if that's just because
Speaker 1: because at the beginning of the season it looked like
Speaker 1: something and then at whatever's going on with him? All
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is after the show wrapped. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what's going on. They got
Speaker 1: their own little thing going on. Cool, Do they have
Speaker 1: a thing or is it just like one outside looking in,
Speaker 1: it just looks like they're casching milltow vibe. Yeah, keeping
Speaker 1: it calm. They haven't kissed, they haven't done a lancy,
Speaker 1: none of that. If I'm gonna consider something a thing
Speaker 1: I need to see. Like Adrian and Josh it kissed.
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about Adrian and Josh. Josh and like,
Speaker 3: I feel like on season forty one, you and Adrian
Speaker 3: had like a little bit of a thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just a flirt, Okay, cool, But I told she's trying,
Speaker 1: it's trying to get down to business. I'm done. But
Speaker 1: but she wasn't.
Speaker 3: No, but she passed you on it, Izzy, and she
Speaker 3: put passed you on what do you mean she passed
Speaker 3: your No, that's not what happened.
Speaker 1: Adrian knew my situation back at home, and I was
Speaker 1: talking to this girl that I that ended up dating
Speaker 1: after the show. But at the time and that girl
Speaker 1: have never met. We were just talking. So I was
Speaker 1: telling her about that girl and she's like, big booty Judy, No,
Speaker 1: big titty Judy, and fucking yeah, we are a ring
Speaker 1: to it at all, Big titty Judy, big titty Betsy.
Speaker 1: Like what's better? I mean just now that.
Speaker 2: Big boy.
Speaker 1: Regardless, Adriana, you know, I wanted to date this girl
Speaker 1: start some ship.
Speaker 3: Adrian knew about big titty bitty yes, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 3: Adrian also lives in the UK.
Speaker 1: Very attractive girl, but we're also really good friends. I
Speaker 1: hook up with Adrian and I fuck up our friendship. Also,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna look good, especially if I know the
Speaker 1: show comes out like delayed and I'm with, like, imagine
Speaker 1: I'm dating mind you when the show came out, I
Speaker 1: was already dating that girl by that time, so she
Speaker 1: would have to sit there with her family watch me
Speaker 1: mac on Adrian. I'm like, whoa, this is a really
Speaker 1: bad look and that's not what I wanted because I
Speaker 1: want to date you. But at the time, it wasn't
Speaker 1: dating her. We hadn't even met in person. So I'm
Speaker 1: still in freemaking do whatever the fuck I want. However,
Speaker 1: I knew what it was gonna look like at the
Speaker 1: time of us dating, and she was like, I want
Speaker 1: to watch my family. I was like, okay, she's watch
Speaker 1: to her family. I have to have some sense of
Speaker 1: morality and be like, Okay, look.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you haven't met in person? You're
Speaker 2: sure you're dating someone you haven't met in person?
Speaker 1: No, no. Before before the show, we were talking just
Speaker 1: like through social media, like an online date, like a yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I met her in person. After we met
Speaker 1: in person, we started dating.
Speaker 2: Got it?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm not going to date someone I
Speaker 1: met on fucking Instagram.
Speaker 3: On Instagram, I want to get the fucking season forty
Speaker 3: two already.
Speaker 1: Let's get to it. Can we do it? Please? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We get a night. That is the fucking problem between you?
Speaker 1: You and Chris Underwood? What problem they have?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because well no, that's bullshit because they edited out
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would know that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know it, we know it. Well. My problem with Chris
Speaker 1: was this and production because production wants to cut out
Speaker 1: some of the juiciest ship and that's been pissing me off.
Speaker 2: That's the podcast. But this is the thing, so let's
Speaker 2: hear it.
Speaker 1: Chris is the reason why Bananas went into the sand
Speaker 1: like he had. He had a metric. Yes, guy saw
Speaker 1: that Johnny was gonna lose, right, bro Cedric should realistically
Speaker 1: what happens, Cedric should have at least put up a fight.
Speaker 1: He got fucking belta ass. I was surprised, and I
Speaker 1: love studies, but I was like, what the fuck happened? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was missing the buttons. Bananas is out running him
Speaker 1: and he's got twenty years on him. That makes no
Speaker 1: sense at all. So I'm you know, Banana's locked.
Speaker 6: It in all the police, but literally, though, fucking tell
Speaker 6: about to go with me, with me and Chris, this
Speaker 6: will bother me.
Speaker 1: So there's no beef between me. No, no, I was
Speaker 1: just in Miami. Gris, that's my boy, right. But in
Speaker 1: the moment, man to man, I was like, Chris, this
Speaker 1: is really some pussy ass shit. And you you know,
Speaker 1: damn all some bitch made shit, no bullshit, because Chris
Speaker 1: is the reason why Bananas was so mad, right, and
Speaker 1: because of that, I had to face the repercussions. You
Speaker 1: may if you're gonna shoot your shit, stand on it.
Speaker 1: And you know, you know I'm the type of shoot
Speaker 1: and stand on it. So when other people try to
Speaker 1: make me do the fucking dirty work, that that's bitch
Speaker 1: made to me. So I'm like, look, Chris, and I
Speaker 1: pulled them aside. I said, bro, I love you, but
Speaker 1: what you're doing right now is the sorriest shit I've
Speaker 1: seen in a long time. You're gonna make him mad,
Speaker 1: you fucking handle it. I don't care what your master
Speaker 1: plan is. If you if you think I'm willing to
Speaker 1: put my name up in the sand and go against
Speaker 1: Bananas my own boy. Mind you one of the close
Speaker 1: people I met from forty one.
Speaker 2: We heard the story earlier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's your own dirty work. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: can go fuck yourself if I go home, right, But
Speaker 1: me and Bananas had a plan and production didn't show this.
Speaker 1: Me and Bananas had a plan to make it look
Speaker 1: like Bananas was gonna really say my name, and I
Speaker 1: was like, izy baby, like I love you, I love you,
Speaker 1: and Adrian are people here, but it might be my time.
Speaker 1: I'm going against Bananas, like I'm gonna have to do
Speaker 1: my best whatever, and I'm putting on this sob story,
Speaker 1: this fucking Oscar worthy performance of acting and making it
Speaker 1: look like I'm really gonna go in. And then last
Speaker 1: second we get to the to the to the elimination
Speaker 1: and Bananas does this whole speech and they fucking cut
Speaker 1: it out. Bro. That really pissed me off so bad
Speaker 1: because it was funny and it's good content. He was
Speaker 1: speaking like me. He was like, yeah, so I don't
Speaker 1: want to send in my stinks think you know, my
Speaker 1: fine shit cannot go home tonight. I'm gonna put in,
Speaker 1: Keanu said, but that's good TV. It's a good laugh.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, if you're a fucking editor, what the
Speaker 1: hell are you doing? What are you doing? That's that's
Speaker 1: great content. That's like I'm watching that be like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's funny. I want to connect with Bananas, Leo and
Speaker 1: all these other people because that's like real g ship
Speaker 1: that I'm watching and very funny.
Speaker 2: Maybe for time, I'm wondering, I don't want.
Speaker 1: To really, I don't know. But they're cutting off the
Speaker 1: dumbest shit. They're leaving way too much pointless ship. Normally
Speaker 1: Adrian fronting cool, you don't need the whole fucking episode
Speaker 1: for that. It was a lot a lot of normally
Speaker 1: it was. It was a good viewing. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: there's more in that episode that they don't show of
Speaker 1: stuff Nourisa, of stuff other people in the cast are doing,
Speaker 1: of stuff that's like important to the lore of the house.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about what the reality of the Can
Speaker 1: we talk about what the reality of the situation is?
Speaker 1: Because the Adrian Nourice and Uh and Josh thing, because
Speaker 1: the way we're looking at it, it's like, hold up,
Speaker 1: she just made out. Adrian just made out with him,
Speaker 1: but like on Love Island, doesn't make out with each
Speaker 1: other all you regulated ship. I'll say, honestly, I think
Speaker 1: the arm on the chair, I do this as I'm
Speaker 1: sitting next to you. I don't get the episode. No,
Speaker 1: this is just a normal, normal reaction. I think that
Speaker 1: and this. I love Adriana, but I think she was
Speaker 1: doing way too much of reacting that part. Unless I
Speaker 1: missed another scene that wasn't there unless you made something
Speaker 1: because I was in the house, but I wasn't looking
Speaker 1: at them, had my own ship going on, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not just glaring at them, like yo, what's the
Speaker 1: ar'm doing there? But I think Adrian overplayed that part. However,
Speaker 1: I think the stuff that Josh was saying, supposedly they're
Speaker 1: saying that, like she was saying on online that Josh
Speaker 1: was saying their res was crying over him, and then
Speaker 1: Mentory like, no, she's crying over Herassi because they just
Speaker 1: they're going through a breakup. But I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm as confused as you are, and I was in
Speaker 1: the house, so I think we just love Love Love
Speaker 1: trying so much. So you didn't so you didn't see
Speaker 1: anything more. But she goes, oh, man, I understand that
Speaker 1: body language. You didn't see any more of the body
Speaker 1: any body language. I'm being on the bus. You hear
Speaker 1: about the bus. I didn't hear anything in the bus
Speaker 1: because I'm the DJ in the bus. So this season
Speaker 1: they let me get full control of the OIC. I
Speaker 1: was playing Bangers on Bankers on, Bangers for nights out,
Speaker 1: for every challenge. It was fun.
Speaker 2: It's like Creed NonStop. No, let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: let me ask you this. I feel like, tell me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I know she's everybody's type, but I
Speaker 2: feel like nourice finest. Yeah, did were you tempted to
Speaker 2: maybe test the waters there? Obviously not at all.
Speaker 1: I think there is a very beautiful attraction girl. She
Speaker 1: she knows that. I think that I've told her right.
Speaker 1: I think she's aware everyone thinks it. But the type
Speaker 1: of guy I am, I don't care who her man
Speaker 1: is pretty. You don't care about a man husband. You're
Speaker 1: gonna do thing. You look good, I'll give you a
Speaker 1: credit words due. So for me, it's like, okay, you
Speaker 1: look good. You did you?
Speaker 3: Did you label her as like well, fine ship or no.
Speaker 1: That's that's a Viv's territory. Okay, but she won't get that.
Speaker 1: Nobody will. But I think I think there is like
Speaker 1: actually very hot, like very attractive.
Speaker 2: Did she come into this season feeling off limits? Because
Speaker 2: I feel like that would have.
Speaker 1: Been I don't know, because I talked to her all
Speaker 1: the time when I was in the house. She was
Speaker 1: she was on my team. You know, we're locked in,
Speaker 1: and when we'd have these conversations, you would just bring
Speaker 1: up Pirossi a lot. So you know, if you have
Speaker 1: two brain cells in your head, you could put two
Speaker 1: and two together. Like, she's all l like this guy.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm not going to try to pursue
Speaker 1: some of that's clearly in love with someone, you know,
Speaker 1: and she's really cool people, we're both Dominican. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why would I fuck this up? She's my teammate, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to pursue Why Why did
Speaker 1: Adrian think.
Speaker 3: That there was anything going on with them?
Speaker 1: Because for us, it's all a prospective thing. So mind you,
Speaker 1: I love Adrian. But it could have been her own
Speaker 1: insecurity of seeing this and maybe she's seen that summer
Speaker 1: before in life and she went guy. Well, of course
Speaker 1: if you've seen something similar. I would also black out
Speaker 1: if I saw something similar of the same really, of
Speaker 1: the same pattern. Really, I mean not me. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I mean they, I mean I mean I mean
Speaker 1: this girl. She couldn't have just been like like just
Speaker 1: I think the rumors circulated way too fast in the
Speaker 1: house because you know how Nurice finds out through Michelle.
Speaker 1: Michelle's like, yeah, so this says something about Josh, and
Speaker 1: Nicea's like, man, fuck, waiting a minute, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: talk to him right now. Yeah, but now Josh is like, now,
Speaker 1: Josh is like, oh, well, remember Josh's throwing the fucking
Speaker 1: cool into the fire right now. I don't know why.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's like he's like, he's like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: remember when you wanted to sit next to me by
Speaker 3: on the bus.
Speaker 1: But this is the thing, though, I don't know this
Speaker 1: because I'm not worried about other people like that. Eleven seventy.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about other people's relationships like that in
Speaker 1: the real world, let alone in the challenge.
Speaker 3: But even even in the real world, like sometimes like
Speaker 3: you could just sit next to each other and like
Speaker 3: talk about something really quick. In this situation. It sounds
Speaker 3: like she saw more and that's what she's standing on.
Speaker 1: Some people have their ego to guard it, to want
Speaker 1: to like see the bigger picture. But I don't think
Speaker 1: the recent Adrian have beef. I think they figured it out. Yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. So obviously we're only on
Speaker 2: episode three here, so I'm gonna walk you back to
Speaker 2: how you felt. Maybe not even in episode three. Let's
Speaker 2: go back to episode one. You find out who's on
Speaker 2: your team. These are initial I want your initial reactions.
Speaker 2: Who are you happy is on your team? And who
Speaker 2: are you like this motherfucker's on my team?
Speaker 1: Sydney and Adrianne. I love every person on your team, Cassidy,
Speaker 1: every one of them. Every one of them. Now you do.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, was there anybody who were like.
Speaker 1: She was on my team? Did you like Anily? She's cool?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you you were content? You look around the
Speaker 2: seven people are your team? You're like perfect seven?
Speaker 1: Seven? Yes. The one person that have me and he
Speaker 1: probably knows this because I think it talked to you
Speaker 1: about it. The one person had me on edge at
Speaker 1: the start was Keanu. He's a big time whom all this.
Speaker 1: He's just way too much talking at the start, and
Speaker 1: we tell him, I mean, Corey, like, bro, you're making
Speaker 1: us look really bad because you're he was reporting to
Speaker 1: the Blue team a lot, and you already see that
Speaker 1: by episode two. I'm like, dude, we just made the
Speaker 1: fucking team. How are you reporting to Anali and them?
Speaker 1: And you don't even know them better than you know us?
Speaker 1: And we're on the same team here, so I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: what are we actually doing right now? Like we're trying
Speaker 1: to have our team solidified, and you're on some like
Speaker 1: on some rat shit, Like, Bro, if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: with us, be with us. Oh my god, you don't
Speaker 1: got to report to Annaly. She's not your fucking mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's not your Darth Vader, your Lord and Savior. Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're with us, so really be with us or we're
Speaker 1: going to ostracize you every fucking time and you're going
Speaker 1: to sand every time unless you lock in. Can we
Speaker 1: talk about that elimination between Brad and Kiano gave Brad
Speaker 1: belt to ask, all right, and I love hold on
Speaker 1: hold you now said this two times. You said that
Speaker 1: Johnny gave Sedrick about to ask and then nah, you
Speaker 1: gave uh, Keanu gave Brad belt to ask? What is
Speaker 1: the difference? And who got more? About to ask? Because
Speaker 1: the way you're making it sound is like it's the same.
Speaker 1: You know what, Bill to ask this to me when
Speaker 1: I expect you to put up some form of a
Speaker 1: performance and you do fucking nothing. Okay, I love Brad,
Speaker 1: one of the nicest men I've ever met.
Speaker 2: Brad put up more. I thought, Brad, for as much
Speaker 2: as he got smoked, he looked like he was giving
Speaker 2: it is all I thought.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's comparable. He was no Brad about
Speaker 1: to ask. Brad was not giving his all. You know what,
Speaker 1: giving your all is literally going on damn near a
Speaker 1: fistfight with Keanu. Ke threw him into a ball. You
Speaker 1: think Brad big, Brad's big ass is giving his all.
Speaker 1: He got pushed into his Brad as a grown ass man,
Speaker 1: built too. He's fucking He's a hefty man. He's not
Speaker 1: some small fry. Yeah no, he's not Brad to be
Speaker 1: able to at least push him back, at least the
Speaker 1: sentiment you know what Brad did, took it the whole time.
Speaker 1: And and Brad says this in his own interviews. That's
Speaker 1: why it's not me talking to This is true, sure,
Speaker 1: and this is coming from love. I was watching my team,
Speaker 1: so I have to I have to, you know, support
Speaker 1: my tea. I'm not I'm not repving Bru. Yes, my
Speaker 1: I'm with Gray. Okay, so I'm supporting keanum. But I'm like, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: this is this is embarrassing. Brad. You're a strong man, yes,
Speaker 1: at least pushed back. I don't care if Keanu played
Speaker 1: in the fucking NFLP. He should not be able to
Speaker 1: simply throw you across the wall every single time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. How bad was it? How dude,
Speaker 1: I'm watching there and Brad is receiving my Brad show aggression.
Speaker 1: But I think Brad is at like a zend point
Speaker 1: of his life where he's he's not trying to be
Speaker 1: on that type of timing, do you think? But I
Speaker 1: know he has the dog in him. There's one thousand
Speaker 1: percent of the dog is in him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, oh oh, he's got one of He's
Speaker 1: got like one of the top three top eliminations against
Speaker 1: Where the fuck was that on that elimination? I don't
Speaker 1: know we're wondering because and I love Like I said,
Speaker 1: I love Brad. It's not me talking. This is me
Speaker 1: speaking more loving to someone yea by saying the truth. No,
Speaker 1: we appreciate it because we're trying to like investigate what happened.
Speaker 1: Do you think I don't know? He legitimately is winner too,
Speaker 1: He's already one book. I thought I watched that and
Speaker 1: I go, man, Keanu. I think Keanuo would have beaten
Speaker 1: anybody in that. Not everybody agrees. Do you think it
Speaker 1: sounds like maybe you're saying Brad underperformed? Do you think
Speaker 1: Keanu would have beaten anybody in that? And if not,
Speaker 1: who do you think could have beaten Keanu in that?
Speaker 1: Including yourself body? No, my ego is talking mad loud
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think most people will beat me
Speaker 1: in that because I'm not going with it as like
Speaker 1: a testive string.
Speaker 2: Who would have been Keanu? That performance of Keanu I'm
Speaker 2: beating you're being He's not.
Speaker 1: More athletic than I am, not even close. He's not
Speaker 1: more ative, and he's he's just saying a lot. He's
Speaker 1: a great athlete. Most of the people in that house
Speaker 1: are not moving their body the way that I can
Speaker 1: move my body. I know that for a fact. Next question,
Speaker 1: is he being Johnny? Probably?
Speaker 2: Is he being ct? Most likely is he beating Chris Underwood?
Speaker 1: Is he beating Well? I don't know. Is he being well?
Speaker 1: I know Will? When Will, dude? When Will gets mad,
Speaker 1: it's like it's low key scary. But Will is also
Speaker 1: an athlete, so I think that's a good head to
Speaker 1: head because they both have that dog in them. Just
Speaker 1: not be talking to this, Drew. Yeah, it's about strategy.
Speaker 1: You saw Bananas almost be Gabe in the fucking pulling thing,
Speaker 1: the only different almost. No, I'm not saying almost be
Speaker 1: in that sense. I'm saying like, strategy has a big
Speaker 1: has a big. Sure, well you have to be Brad.
Speaker 1: If Brad was moving like that one thousand percent. But
Speaker 1: if Brad was moving the way that I know Brad
Speaker 1: can move, he should be able to kill me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were confused, but it doesn't matter. Like I said,
Speaker 1: my strategy is not going brute strength. You can make
Speaker 1: that work in your favorite.
Speaker 2: Give us listen on this and we'd love to have
Speaker 2: you back. Obviously, hopefully you have a long season. We
Speaker 2: can talk to you again. But give us a tease here,
Speaker 2: we're three episodes in. Obviously we got at least probably
Speaker 2: you know, seven, if not thirteen episodes left.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, give us a tease.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm saying, we got you know, dude, some of
Speaker 2: these chal twenty episodes left, bro, we got ten left,
Speaker 2: seven to thirteen. It's somewhere in the middle, all right,
Speaker 2: don't And by the way, we think we're gonna be
Speaker 2: bringing Leo with us at Philadelphia on September twenty sixth to.
Speaker 1: My birthday celebration. What's your birthday?
Speaker 2: September twenty, September twenty so we'll be celebrating Leo's birthday.
Speaker 2: We got Tory Deal in the house, Chris Underwood in
Speaker 2: the house. We've got Anissa Freyer in the house. Yeah, Chris,
Speaker 2: a little bite, oh us.
Speaker 1: And by the way, now that I know, now that
Speaker 1: I know you're a baseball guy, I don't know how
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't feel like your d one
Speaker 1: baseball has been mentioned on the show, which is crazy,
Speaker 1: or maybe I just wasn't paying attention to that second.
Speaker 1: But now that I know that, I know you came
Speaker 1: into the Jets game with us last year, we'll hopefully
Speaker 1: be doing something with them again. But we got to
Speaker 1: get you out to a baseball game. But if you
Speaker 1: get me on the first pitch, bro, I will have
Speaker 1: a time. Trust you. We got too many to pass out. Dude,
Speaker 1: I get you, I get just get to the game, Bro,
Speaker 1: just get to the game.
Speaker 2: No, man, I get you one next week. We've got
Speaker 2: too many teams that are like, hey, you coming this year.
Speaker 2: We're like sorright, Bro, we can't make it this year.
Speaker 1: Now we finish fucking make it. We'll find it.
Speaker 2: We will well, well, we do a lot of them,
Speaker 2: so we'll get you out there.
Speaker 1: But last I want you to give us a give
Speaker 1: us a tease, a spoiler free sort of look the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the season for us. Are you get a Scooper off?
Speaker 2: Obviously we'll look out for you. And is he in
Speaker 2: the little micro successions? What do you want to call him?
Speaker 2: But but I want to I want to give us
Speaker 2: a teas or some sort of a spoiler, spoiler free
Speaker 2: look at what we should look out for, whether it's
Speaker 2: in your game or this season as podcasters, as as viewers,
Speaker 2: as fans.
Speaker 1: We never do that to my beloved sweetheart.
Speaker 2: By the way, I love it. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: who's the one that you said? You were like, oh,
Speaker 2: just she seems happy with somebody else.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, I'm like, what do you happy with someone else?
Speaker 2: There was someone you said you were like it was
Speaker 2: in the reice. Maybe We're like, oh, I can tell
Speaker 2: she cares.
Speaker 1: About her harass you. If you're you're talking to me often,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing the same. I'm like, Okay, he's got it
Speaker 1: cool boom.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, that's the first time I ever
Speaker 2: heard you say that.
Speaker 1: Well, I said, it seems like normally normally with you,
Speaker 1: it's like saying, as the challenge the dominicant, I can't
Speaker 1: I can't go across on our own bloodline. You see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And she's a bitting tim dating.
Speaker 1: Is she not to me? Dude, I'm Dominican. I I've
Speaker 1: grown up with Dominicans. This is like a normal day
Speaker 1: in the light. See what I'm saying. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: my mom would act like this, my aunt, my grandma,
Speaker 1: like it don't matter. But I guess I'll say for
Speaker 1: a teaser, is you know, give me something, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe you'll see some lover boy come out. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we'll got to snatch up, scoop it up. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, give her take some time. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: no I do. I do love you Izzy with my
Speaker 1: whole heart, with your whole heart, my whole heart would
Speaker 1: be the actual best girlfriend in the world. My but
Speaker 1: it just won't ever happen. It's all good though. We're
Speaker 1: office friends.
Speaker 2: Let people know where to follow you. You want to
Speaker 2: plug anything, tell it to the camera.
Speaker 1: So follow me on Instagram. Leonardo Unio, right, and then
Speaker 1: two talks the same thing, but Leonardo Dunicio too, because
Speaker 1: my last account got banned because I talked way too
Speaker 1: much shit on live. But it's okay, It's okay. We're
Speaker 1: dropping new music. We have a lot of songs coming
Speaker 1: out before summer ends. Stay tuned and you know, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe my perform some ship at one of these shows.
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