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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, and welcome to the Paranormal Portal podcast I'm

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your host, Brent Thomas, and I'm absolutely thrilled you're here.

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Podcast for making this all possible. Today, we've got a

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special show line up for you. I am joined by

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a wonderful friend of the Portal for a long time now.

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and spiritual eradicator for problematic hauntings and such. And he's

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been on the podcast before and i'd like you to

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welcome mister Sean Gonzalez to the show. Welcome Sean, thanks.

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Speaker 6: For coming to you, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Hi, welcome back. Now. I know you've been quite busy

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doing all all the things that you do. You and

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your plate is really full. There's a lot going on. Huh. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It seems that I'm attracting people who are in need

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of this kind of thing, and it seems that it's

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mostly gifted folks. It's not alway, and I hate using

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that term. I don't I don't want to say responsibility,

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but that's the best term I've got for right now.

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lot of folks who or in need and ending up

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being a counselor oftentimes more than anything else, especially after

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Speaker 4: Wow. Now, would you say that that spiritual activity is

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on an upswing? Is there more of it going on

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now than before, or what do you identify as maybe

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some of the causation to this increase in disruption spiritual

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disruption going on?

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this over the last several months. I think it's crept

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into people's consciousness a lot. And the only thing that

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the Mayan calendar in twenty twelve, which was the end

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of the fifth World, in the beginning of the sixth,

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because's got to remember that nothing ends without something beginning

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the way things are now, had a huge upsearch. In fact,

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in twenty twelve, I just moved up to the high

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I was just dizzied and it knocked me out. I

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fell to the ground. But I remember the last thing

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and then hitting the ground and the only thing I

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could say is I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And

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apparently a lot of people found that as well that

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were previously had abilities as well. And then all of

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a sudden, people who either had either nascent or easily

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ignored abilities, they suddenly went from being ignorable to you

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can't quell it anymore, you can't push it down, and

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things were starting to come out of the woodwork, or

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these manifestations, and not only these manifestations, but several others.

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more as these things manifest in the world. Now, that's

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mostly the reason that you wanted to come on today

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thoughts and feelings, but I want you to have the

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room and space necessary to explain what it is you

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my experience with fear forms. But before I can go

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project goodness, stillness, gentility, humility, you know, familia love that

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kind of thing. It resonates with other folks and it

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joy on a constant basis and generosity. But now that

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there's this more of this energy, people are forming what

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now there's more energy, people such as myself can manifest

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this far more easily. But back then, as a child,

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my imagination could take off and create other things, far

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worse things, far more horrifying things. And I didn't know

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that I was making the situation worse because there were shadows,

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there were things peeking out of the closet. Not that

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weren't bad, but I was frightened, and it simply made things.

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my anxiety was even higher. And it didn't help that

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my family was abusive, and so that anxiety drove them

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even to even worse levels, even including making me wake

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up out of a dream and a cold sweat because

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sheer exhaustion several hours later, just before dawn, because I

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found myself sitting in that position, and my back hurt

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and it was bad. I also used to sleep on

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only do thoughts and have substance, but it can be

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manifested in such a way on the astral so that

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you can see it. In some cases, people are actually

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doing that, or in some cases their fears are empowering

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old energy, old memories, in structures and causing them to activate,

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and they don't know they're doing it because they didn't

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realize that they were giving off this energy, this light,

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a fantastic movie which everybody I highly recommend they go

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and watch, is Forbidden Planet with Walter Pigeon. The nature

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of that show was that on that planet, this entire

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species had risen to such a level that they were

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able to make a machine that could make anything they

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thought of manifest. So all of their needs could be

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met by simply thinking about what they needed. But there

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is a problem. Even if during your waking hours you

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are the kindest, best, most controlled person and could never

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imagine hurting someone else, your worst fears can go crazy

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in your sleep. And that was what would happen. Walter

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fears can be made manifest, made real, and by fearing it,

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and continuing to press your anxiety as well as your

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sense that people are persecuting you, it becomes real. It's

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my son was born nineteen ninety nine, I knew that

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or sorry two thousand was conceived in nineteen nine, two

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thousand he was born, and that we knew that he

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sing to his mother's tummy and he would kick to

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trying to get to the surface because he wanted to

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be able to get closer to the voice. And I

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knew that he was. He was going to be gifted,

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and so I had to think about what I was

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because I thought, well, if i'm if I keep the

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house safe, if I use my abilities to keep things away,

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everything should be fine. But the age of three, my

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son starts to see things and I begin seeing things

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out of the corners of my eyes and realize that

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there couldn't be anything there. And I looked dead at it,

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and it's something that he'd manifested. And I would ask him, son,

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why are you making these little boogeymen? And you're hiding

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in fact, showing him how to use his energy to

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be to do the essential the dart on me to

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the balloon, you know, when you're playing at the at

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the carnivals and you have to pop the balloons and

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showing him how that was done so that he could

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destroy them. Oh cool, and to take back his own

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his sense of safety, because you can do that for them,

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and you can watch over for them, and you can

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help them wipe those things out, but you can't always

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be there for them, and that's not you and saying,

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oh no, those aren't real. That's why you know. I

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let him know you're making these things because there's nothing

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can get in here, and so you and I need

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to take care of this together, and then I'll show

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you how you can do it for yourself, as long

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as it takes, until you have you're no longer scared.

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in Army of Darkness and he watches it with me

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at the age of three, and for the next several days,

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as he's killing these things, he's shouting to the high heavens,

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this is my boom stick. So then came my youngest,

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manifest the same things approximately at the age of two,

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him into that was from the lady who used to

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live here. And I had to keep telling him, no,

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she's not dead. What what you're you're seeing is the

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energy you're pouring into it because of your fears, because

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you can feel that she was here once and you're

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you're making her do this and menace you. And I

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had to sleep in his room for weeks at on

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end on the floor so that he would feel safe,

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and until he realized that she would only show up

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when my when I wasn't around, so that my energy,

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because my energy would disperse what he was doing, sort

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of like the strongest magnet present to attract the most filings, right.

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And then had to show him how to deal with it,

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and that led to the last what six years of

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him doing comes at my.

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Speaker 4: Head from dragon Ball. That's awesome.

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Speaker 6: And then in a lot of the situations I've been

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dealing with for people that they don't realize now and

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and this is many of the cases that have come

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my way, that they're creating their persecutors, but it's not always.

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single case, in the case of the Enfield poltergeist in England. Okay,

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the girls were dealing with at first their fears being

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taken and because they were gifted, they were definitely capable.

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energy by a thing that was in the home. That's

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still there, okay, and to this day it's still there.

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The psychic that made it stop only got to agree

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to stop until the girl's mother died, and when she

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did that, it was game on again. But that was

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what they that's what it's waiting for. And once it

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had both I can't remember their names, the two sisters

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because they they had just reached the puberty. It's a

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fantastic energy source and it just kept on drawing it

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out and it was able to make was able to

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throw break, pick up the girls and float them around

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the room or toss them out of bed. And that

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is the extreme of these things getting out of hand,

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which is why I caution people about ever ever letting

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fear make decisions for you, and you can't really control it,

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but you can harness it and find let it turn

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to something else and find a better way to express it.

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Because making decisions on fear is such a bad idea.

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Fear is how you save yourself from a crocodile chasing

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after you. Fear is not how you make decisions for

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the rest of your life that are going to will

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eventually have repercussions for yourself and others. It's a problem

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solver in the second or the moment.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 6: So, one of the gentleman that I was helping had

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been had a solid belief that things were coming after

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him and that he was being attacked, and that the

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underpinnings of his life were constantly being taken apart. And

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so I looked into it. And the first thing that

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I saw, the very first thing that I saw as

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I'm looking at him, is other versions of himself, doppelgangers

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walking by and eyeing me. Or he couldn't see me

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as I was bilocating to his position, they could. And

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I realized he's making manifest all of the things that

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he is afraid would happen, and at the same time,

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in a way craved as a justification for his anger.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, okay, And when I.

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Speaker 6: Removed them, most of his anger went away. But I

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realized that this was only a temporary thing. And they

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were going to start bring back to the surface and

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coming back and coming back. And it's a thing that

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I wouldn't want to broach with him, because he's convinced

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that there is no other way other than for this

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to be from the esoteric everybody. You know, everybody's out

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to get me, everybody, And that's that's something that only

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counseling can change. Really, right in this era where fears

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can resonate and make manifest some of the worst decisions

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and horror making things that a human can express, that's

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that's the only all I can do is pop the

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balloon and wait for it to build up again and

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then do it again. And which in this case, I'm

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not being like a police officer or guardian. I'm being

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like a firefighter, trying to keep the fire down to

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a just a slow simmer and not a raging inferno.

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Speaker 4: So would you say that something like the slender Man

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would be a would be a potential manifest station of

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something like this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't been able to find any. When I

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go looking in places where people say I've seen the

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slender Man, I've seen the slender Man, and I don't

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even see echoes of it. All I can feel is

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what basically like footprints of previous energy, which has this

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electric taste like fear. You know, that taste you get

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in your mouth like you're when you get terrified.

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, yeap, Yeah, that's that's.

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Speaker 6: Actually from a release of higher levels of zinc, which

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causes that funky taste in your mouth, and that and

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that's I get that in those areas, the same thing

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with a few of what people are calling cryptids, not

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all of them, far from all of them, but just

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a couple of them. And it seems that the fear

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of the thing can make it manifest as well, and

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it can be just as solid, just as frightening, and

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just as dangerous, especially if you run from it in

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such a way that makes you make poor decisions, not

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looking where you're going, and you took wrong step into

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a giant ravine. Yeah, and that's that is the best

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probably expression of what's currently going on for many people

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I can I could give you for I mean, I

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actually had to, at the age of twenty three stare

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down the when to go. I shouldn't say THEE because

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there's quite a few, but a when to go, and

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if there is no fear present because I'd been pushed

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to the point where I had I didn't care if

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I lived or died. Back then, they just they have

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nothing to eat, they have no there's nothing for them

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to feed on, and they back they will back away.

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And but these other things the same approach. Approach it

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like it's it's something that's waiting for you to blink.

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Don't don't run, stand your ground, don't approach, don't chase,

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because the word the last thing you should do is

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go chasing into the mouth of the tiger.

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Speaker 4: Right. Yeah, that's pretty intense. That's really really intense, And

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it really does seem to demonstrate the amount of ability

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that people have laning inherent in them.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and seems to be more common in children up

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to the end of puberty, because by that point quite

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a few of them, if they had nason abilities, will

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have made a decision whether either to embrace them or

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to turn away. And turning away doesn't make you safe.

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It just means that some of the normal perceptions I

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shouldn't say normal, I guess the perceptions you would develop

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because of going with your abilities will not have developed.

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And so some of these things can come out of

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nowhere and frighten you terribly or be shocking in many ways,

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and you won't have learned how to deal with them

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as a normal thing as my children have, because you

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have to make as normal as possible, because it is

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a normal port part of our day. I believe we

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let this get away from us during the beginning of

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the Enlightened Period when Houdini and Arthur Arthur Conan Doyle

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started chasing down psychics and others in order to prove

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that they were phony or false or whatnot. And don't

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get me wrong, they really uncovered a bunch of scam artists. This, unfortunately,

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would have had the effect of anybody who was honest

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about it going, well, I can't be out there anymore.

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I can't. This is its own version of a witch trial.

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And all it's going to do is make it so

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that I can't do what I'm able to do. And

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so they stopped and pre nineteen hundred, most of this

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just fell away or became the equivalent of just everybody

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considers it hokum, and that was that.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 6: And a lot of spirits that are attached to families

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that act as guardians, guides and hearth spirits. I speak

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to some of them, haven't seen a gifted family member

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going back as far as the Revolutionary War? Oh wow, yeah,

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and some of them before that. And they said, well,

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they all they all started looking at them, like, for instance,

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this one, her name is Belle, she recounted to me.

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How Ever, since leaving their family, leaving Ireland, they acknowledged her.

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Most of the girls could see her. The children would

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grow up, you know, acknowledging her in the morning, saying hello.

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And then after eighteen hundred something, then they all were told, no,

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that's the devil do you shouldn't do that, or it's evil,

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or only God can do this, and disciplining them until

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they stopped looking and then stopped seeing, and then they

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passed it on, so on and so forth, until now

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there's a lot of these guardian spirits, these good things

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out there that we've been taught to look away from,

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just like as if they were the bad things and

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they're there to help and we can't see them, but

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the bad things don't don't mind being showing you their face.

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Speaker 4: How can the average person differentiate between the two.

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Speaker 6: Usually the feels and this is it, this isn't people

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who don't even have abilities. Would be if it feels cold, uh, well,

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to quote Yoda is you feel cold, slimy, death, negativity, anger,

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things of the dark side. This is you will know

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when you are calm at peace, uh, you know, and

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that kind of thing. You can feel the warmth and

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and though they do impart that and if you're welcoming

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to them, they will share their light with you and

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it feels comforting, like like a mother embrace.

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Speaker 4: That's really cool. Okay. Yeah, So it's all lying with

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an each of us to differentiate those things and to

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empower those things I suppose by as a result.

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Speaker 6: Right, and to not let fear guide you, because you can,

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long after the events that could be dangerous to you

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go away. You can be frightened and still feel a chill,

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but you shouldn't equate that fear response with the negativity

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that's now gone, because it's it's quite easy to I

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guess a good analogy would be you just got saved

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from an event by a firefighter or a police officer,

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and you're in shock and and and you're still feeling

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those feelings when you were in the middle of the event,

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and you're very keyed up and scared, and and it's

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experience will tell you don't take it out on the

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on the rescuer because you can see the rescuer. But

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now imagine you can't see that, but you can feel

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the presence, and so you get frightened. It's warm, but warm,

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that's hot would not mean the devil. And we've been

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told all these weird things, and so we get scared again.

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Speaker 4: We get programmed. Yeah, there's a lot of that, and

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that certainly muddies the waters. Even more is when you're

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running into paradigms and belief systems on top of all

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of this, that's for sure. But I think this is

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probably a good point for us to take our first

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and only break, I guess of the show. So don't

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go away, ladies and gentlemen. We'll be right back with

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more of mister Shawn Gonzales and the thought forms. All right, everybody,

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we are back and back at it. I'm your host,

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Brent Thomas still and I'm still joined by mister Sean Gonzalez,

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who is here to talk to us about thought forms

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and projections and such and how to understand and deal

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with those things. So welcome back, Shawn, and thank you

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so much for being here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you for having me again.

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Speaker 4: The floor is yours again, sir, So take it away.

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Speaker 6: The stream of consciousness thought on, this is it for me.

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It fits in spurts. So I'm trying to think what

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would be the probably the next natural thing to go

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on to. Since thought forms are a manifestation of sometimes

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people think of it as belief, but also of pure

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and sometimes very extreme desire, you can actually make manifest

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like with children, they make their their their imaginary friend,

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and so dismissing an imaginary friend is not wise because

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let's say the child and this is in many cases

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you will actually find this, especially if you investigate the

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paranormal that a child starts off with a imaginary friend,

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and sometimes the imaginary friend is actually them empowering the

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environment where another child is passed and the child becomes

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basically wakes up from their from from their doldrums or

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the remnants of their memories which are imprinted on the

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environment create a being that they can befriend. And this

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is kind of important because you want that to stay

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good and benevolent, and that's what most most families all

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will talk about. They don't you should never poo poo

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the child or poopoo that that's that that's occurring, because

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if the child fears it, then the fears will go

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into that and make manifest all kinds of horrible things.

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I have read so many stories on the the spurned

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imaginary friend becoming violent and attacking as their fears pour

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into it and make it become the antithesis of what

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00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:28,880
they originally wanted, something that was never dangerous in the

478
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:34,799
first place, by peers and parents pushing, Oh, that's that's silly,

479
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,640
you know, that's or wait, it could be a demon

480
00:30:37,759 --> 00:30:41,599
or the devil, or or horrible you you'll know. I

481
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,039
believe it was in the Bible that I think it

482
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:47,759
was Jesus said, you will know these things by by

483
00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,920
what they have made manifest. Essentially, you know, you'll know

484
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,759
the tree by the fruit that it bears. And so

485
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:59,039
if it's not dangerous, don't start tinkering with the tree

486
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,079
and calling it aims because the fruit it'll it will

487
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:03,279
bear will become bitter.

488
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,279
Speaker 4: Oh good point.

489
00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 6: So hopefully that gives about a million kids who are

490
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,200
dealing with their their best friends being thought forms and

491
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,119
the parents not constantly going after them, and eventually.

492
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is a big fear of that. In the

493
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,559
paranormal though, the whole always got an invisible friend. Oh wait,

494
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,680
it's you know, it's not an invisible friend. It's a

495
00:31:27,799 --> 00:31:32,200
it's a spirit with its own consciousness. And you know

496
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:35,200
that's that's kind of a tough one too to nail down, because,

497
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,160
of course, there are so many stories of these clairvoyant

498
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,240
children seeing and talking to spirits, and a lot of

499
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,960
times adults dismiss them as invisible friends when in retrospect

500
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,960
they find out that it was a manifestation of a

501
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,799
spirit that their child was just able to perceive. Where's

502
00:31:51,839 --> 00:31:53,759
the distinction there, sean how do people know?

503
00:31:54,359 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 6: Well that that would require having someone who has gifts

504
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,200
come in to let them know it's like, oh, this

505
00:31:58,279 --> 00:32:00,759
is a spirit, or as I had to do recently,

506
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,400
that it wasn't just somebody's imagination, and or in the

507
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,720
case of like with my children, letting them know, oh, no,

508
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640
are those are just your thought forms, Those are just

509
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:13,160
creations that you made. They have no more substance because

510
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,119
I can see that it's tied to the original person.

511
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,839
Now in some cases, and this is where the line

512
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:22,599
gets very muddy, that it was that it wasn't the

513
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,279
child before, It wasn't the imaginary friend. It was up

514
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,839
until a certain point, and the child puts so much

515
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,839
energy into it that it then takes on a life

516
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:34,880
of its own, and then it goes from being a

517
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,119
thought form to being what is called a spirit. Spirits

518
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,440
have never been born. They are an essence of something,

519
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,960
an essence of a desire, a belief, an emotion, a friendship,

520
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,039
an element, an ideal such as guardian spirits. Heart spirits,

521
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,960
that kind of thing. They've never been alive. And as

522
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,960
long as all that you pour into it is good,

523
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,680
you don't have to worry about it. But once it

524
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,119
gets turned into a spirit and it has its own

525
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,279
ability to feed itself and maintain itself, then it is.

526
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:11,440
It is an autonomous thing. And that's where the distinction.

527
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:14,119
You can literally jump from camp aid it can't be

528
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,160
and then you can say, well, this is now, but

529
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,359
it was then and it It just makes things more

530
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,599
confusing because most people don't even realize that you know

531
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:28,880
that are friend. Many heart spirits actually start off as

532
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
a belief or a need for something to protect the

533
00:33:31,759 --> 00:33:35,039
family and to protect and to protect the home and

534
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:38,400
to watch over the children, et cetera. When mom can't

535
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,799
that kind of thing, and then they simply manifest and

536
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:46,440
become a permanent thing. They can be destroyed. And that

537
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:49,400
is unfortunate that some of these things which are are

538
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,000
have been with families three four or five, six hundred

539
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:55,160
years that are looking out for you can be neglected

540
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,640
until they just disappear.

541
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: Okay, would that be akin to a domovoid.

542
00:34:01,559 --> 00:34:05,119
Speaker 6: Then yeah, that's a similar idea that the domovoid domo

543
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,079
ven are all about protecting the family and the heart.

544
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:11,480
That's the Russian idea of it, and they can be

545
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,400
quite physical. Up until recently, I did not realize that

546
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,039
that heart spirit slash dumbovoi were pretty much the same thing,

547
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:25,000
because I hadn't seen a heart spirit become I guess

548
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,639
enraged until just yesterday, and so I realized it's all

549
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,119
a matter of their personality, and that's a thing. Also,

550
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,079
every one of them has a different personality. They are

551
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:40,039
their own thing, right, They don't they don't do what

552
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:42,079
They're not puppets. They don't do what you direct, they

553
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,400
do what you ask of them.

554
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 4: Wow, And and what a powerful thing to have around,

555
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:51,760
I mean, a very potent spiritual presence that has your

556
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,559
best interest at heart. That's really awesome.

557
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 6: And that's the reason why I tell people all the time,

558
00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,480
all the time, there's more good out there than bad.

559
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320
Promise you, what you can't see can hurt you, but

560
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,599
there's way more out there that's looking to keep you

561
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,599
from making that misstep crossing the road, that wants your

562
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:12,519
garden to flourish, that loves it when they see you

563
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,559
feed the birds, that kind of thing. It's just if

564
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,519
you knew, if you knew, it would warm your heart

565
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,519
and you wouldn't have as much worry about the paranormal

566
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,239
being filled with all these negative things that literally want

567
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,920
to crawl out of every shadow to come get you,

568
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,840
because that really is rare. It isn't the commonality of

569
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,639
this life or the next.

570
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: Wow, that's really powerful, very very powerful, And I'm glad

571
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,280
that that kind of ties in a whole lot of

572
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:44,000
different ideas into that same sta streamline theory. It makes

573
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:47,000
a lot more sense to me because being a researcher

574
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,679
of the paranormal, you know, you come across these different

575
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:55,519
concepts and beliefs regarding different types of spirits and stuff,

576
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:58,800
and sometimes it's hard to hard to know, Like in

577
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,039
the case of the Domovoi, like, Okay, well, there's this

578
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,440
a spirit within this culture that exists, but why doesn't

579
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,159
other cultures have these same things? And if they do,

580
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,079
why do they have a different name, or why do

581
00:36:09,159 --> 00:36:11,599
they look different? Or well, you know whatever, whatever, whatever,

582
00:36:11,679 --> 00:36:16,360
But I think it's really to me, it's a really

583
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,480
cool thing to see the unification of those those symbols

584
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,119
through different cultures and to draw a common narrative.

585
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 6: And realizing that the reason why they seem so different

586
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:32,199
is because somebody somewhere made the first domovoi and it

587
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,000
acted a particular way, and so they told all of

588
00:36:35,039 --> 00:36:37,480
the people about this Domovoy that hears this story, and

589
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,039
so it became part of the subconsciousness of that culture.

590
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,400
And even though they existed somewhere else, the perception that

591
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,480
was passed on was different, such as with the heart spirits,

592
00:36:48,559 --> 00:36:52,039
even though they're literally the same thing, but their expression,

593
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:55,440
because of how they're created and made manifest, was based

594
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,199
on the culture that created them. And it's interesting to

595
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,800
note that there is much a creation of man, as

596
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,719
they are guided by man, and so it's it's it's

597
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,159
not just that they are real spirits, they're manifest they're there.

598
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,719
We've made them. We've made them out of our needs,

599
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,480
with our thoughts and our love and in some cases

600
00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:20,000
fears and hates, and so every last one of them

601
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,639
is going to have a different personality. Some of them

602
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,239
seem to be in many cases, most of them aren't

603
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,440
look like they're members of the family. In cases of

604
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,440
the two hard spirits that I can tell you about,

605
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,960
they look like that, like the family that they came from.

606
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,800
In some cases they dress anachronistically, or they're you know,

607
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,320
they they're taller, They just they seem that you could

608
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,119
easily see if they were just inserted into a picture

609
00:37:47,159 --> 00:37:49,159
of the family, you know, a portrait of the family,

610
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:54,000
they would they're indistinguishable. And so that that's the case,

611
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:57,360
and they are literally part of the family. In the

612
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,760
case of guardian spirits, which are thought forms made manifest

613
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:06,000
to protect the land, they take on the aspect of

614
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:09,000
the people who were there the longest and had the

615
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:14,800
most influence, which is such as some of the the

616
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,440
Bannock tribe guardian spirits in Idaho. The one that I

617
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:23,840
encountered there, he was created by the by the Bannock

618
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,480
nearly nine hundred years ago, and another one that was

619
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,480
one Yankee that I encountered in Florida several weeks ago.

620
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,239
She even dresses like a pioneer woman of the early

621
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:43,239
eighteen hundreds and carries a musket. So and and but

622
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:48,360
they're they're made by us, and they're here to help us,

623
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,239
as long as you don't treat them as if they

624
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,760
were the spawn of you know, beels above. And that's

625
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,280
part of the don't turn a good thing into a

626
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,079
fear form, I guess you could say.

627
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:07,599
Speaker 4: Right, so does in retrospect is mastering the fear. The

628
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,440
key in this is this where where that can be

629
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,519
broken down and nullified or at least diffused.

630
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 6: Mastering fear but also having the knowledge is those are

631
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:24,320
the two. They go hand in glove. There's nothing which

632
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,840
drives away fear as much as knowledge and experience, and

633
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,559
knowledge that not everything out there and that the thing

634
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:33,840
that you're probably encountering has no ill will towards you

635
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:37,559
goes a long way towards keeping your fears from making

636
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:43,039
things worse. Okay, So knowledge is key. Knowledge is power.

637
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,320
The truth shall set you free if you pick your

638
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,079
wise men. And they all had it right.

639
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 4: So we got about fifteen minutes left. So I just

640
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,079
just to let you know where we're at with the clock.

641
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:57,360
But I just wanted you to know so that you

642
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,920
can frame this up. However you think it best for

643
00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:02,000
this topic.

644
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,039
Speaker 6: Well, I guess I would say, uh, let's see. You don't,

645
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,320
I see, don't make decisions based on fear. Don't don't

646
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,239
be afraid of everything first. It's really hard not to,

647
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,800
because that's the that is the first inclination of our

648
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,920
hindbring to be scared. And that if you if you're

649
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,800
going to think about things, think about them in the

650
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,519
best possible terms. Let hope be your guide. Keep that

651
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:33,239
ever forwards in your mind. Hope is not a is

652
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,599
not a wasted effort. Love is not a wasted effort.

653
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:40,280
And and I think I should probably go into some

654
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,079
of the rules in in Thoumatergy because they are good

655
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:47,960
for not only learning, but understanding the world. The primary law,

656
00:40:48,559 --> 00:40:52,239
that is was to guide us, and this is dates

657
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,639
back to the Persian Empire. Is summed up in a saying,

658
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,360
do what thou wilt was said to me, And as

659
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,320
thou wilt, so motive be, for love shall be the

660
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,599
whole of the law love underwill, which is to break

661
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:08,920
it down into colloquial English is don't be a jerk.

662
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,880
Treat everybody like you would be treated yourself. Do what

663
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,360
you want, but don't don't hurt people. Let love be

664
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,920
your guide, and let will be how you guide your

665
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,880
love to other people and to the world. Because what

666
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,360
you send out comes back to you. And in almost

667
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:32,239
every form of energy understanding, from wicked to thou matergy

668
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:37,880
to Zoroastrianism, is this rule that what you send out

669
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,840
comes back to you. Manifold Wickens call it the rule

670
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,519
of three. Thou matter just know it is the rule

671
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:47,480
of seven times seven. Jesus quoted it in the Bible

672
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:50,320
when it was asked Master, how many times should I

673
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,320
forgive my neighbor once, twice, seven times? And he latched

674
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,519
upon that number quickly and said seven times seven. And

675
00:41:58,639 --> 00:42:01,639
the reason why is because before the concept of zero

676
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,079
was given to us by the Native Americans of Central America,

677
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:10,360
seven times seven was the equivalent of infinity. Oh okay,

678
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,719
and so numerically speaking, seven times seven, it's only forty nine.

679
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:18,920
But that's a lot. And so imagine that what you

680
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,119
send out comes back to you that many times. So

681
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:23,920
if you send out good, it comes back to you

682
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,400
that many fold over. And the same thing is with

683
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,280
the energy you put into your environment and the thought

684
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,880
forms and the things that you want to make manifest

685
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,079
in the world. So if you send out fear, that's

686
00:42:34,119 --> 00:42:36,360
going to come back. It's going to come back much

687
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,639
much harder, and it's going to fill your environment and

688
00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:40,760
affect your friends, and it's going to affect your family,

689
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,320
and it's going to grow. Because you send out one,

690
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,880
it comes back fifty. You send out fifty, it comes

691
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,039
back to fifty if you say so. Be aware that

692
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:58,880
your thoughts craft your environment. And so if you want

693
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,400
a good environment, if you want a good home, if

694
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,400
your children see things, you know, always always couch it

695
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:10,000
in soft, understanding that this is the beginning for them,

696
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:14,079
and not to let fear guide you or annoyance. It's

697
00:43:14,079 --> 00:43:16,639
hard sometimes, I know, it's very hard to to not

698
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,639
be dismissive when when the children are bouncing off the

699
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,159
walls and giving you all kinds of grief all day

700
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,400
and then the case of mine hitting me in the

701
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,199
head with cameo mal wave after another.

702
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,519
Speaker 4: Yeah I could, I could numb your senses after a while.

703
00:43:30,519 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 6: But yeah, to be sitting in my recliner, and all

704
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,719
of a sudden, I see him take the stance, and

705
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,480
I realized, oh no, and here it comes. It's it's

706
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,880
always it's funnier to take on the aspect of bugs

707
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,400
bunny or wiley coyote, knowing he's the rock's about to

708
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,320
fall becomes it's like here comes the anvil yea, and

709
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,760
and you know it's gonna hit, but it's it's okay

710
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,679
because you know they're they're they're they're taking their power

711
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,920
and they're learning their they're stepping forward and they're being

712
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,039
bold about it and and and that's important to to

713
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:09,000
to infuse confidence also, and I probably that's where this

714
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,440
organically was leading. Is confidence breeds the ability to master

715
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:18,920
fear and maintain knowledge as your as your as your

716
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:24,679
guiding influence, which then leads me to the the third law, uh,

717
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,079
which is to will, to know, to dare, and to

718
00:44:28,159 --> 00:44:32,599
keep silent. Each one of these aspects is as an element,

719
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:36,639
which is their aspects are supposed to help you with learning.

720
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,519
You must will uh and and you must be daring

721
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,760
and children if nothing else, if you don't squish them,

722
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,599
they are daring.

723
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

724
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 6: Uh. And then comes knowledge with daring and then comes

725
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,599
the silence to sit down and go, I don't know everything,

726
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:58,519
and I must learn more. Sure, right, I wish I

727
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:00,960
had more to give on the subject. I'm trying to

728
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,320
be as as as broadly vague but specific as I

729
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,480
can be, because it's this is a large topic, and

730
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,440
and defending yourself against these things also actually finish up

731
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:16,519
is you need to make sure that you can claw

732
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:19,480
back your power. You've given it to them, You can

733
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:25,119
dismiss it. Your conscious mind can can erase that reality.

734
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:27,360
You don't have to let Freddy Krueger have your power

735
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,840
in your dreams. You don't have to to let the

736
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,760
monster under the bed have free reiin. It can be

737
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,119
clawed back when it is given. If you are giving

738
00:45:36,119 --> 00:45:38,519
it out of fear because you don't realize you're doing it,

739
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,519
you can take it away. That's what I taught the children.

740
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: And so that that's that's the diffusion. Then just in

741
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,480
a nutshell, that by by conquering the fear that might

742
00:45:50,559 --> 00:45:55,159
have created it, it will in essence diffuse it. Yes, okay,

743
00:45:55,360 --> 00:46:00,119
because I think that's important, and that's that's empowering, and

744
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,320
that's maybe the crate on the end of the string

745
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,920
for anybody that's suffering from this, So they've they've dialed

746
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,519
it in. They figured out maybe maybe I'm manifesting this.

747
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,760
Now they have to explore that fear that's creating it,

748
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,679
diffuse it, and and by virtue of diffusing that their

749
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,119
problem is diffused as well.

750
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:20,199
Speaker 6: Correct.

751
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:21,679
Speaker 4: No, that's quite powerful.

752
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 6: I've never seen anyone who has made these that didn't

753
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:30,519
balk in the presence of a brighter light. And that

754
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,760
is that's when you want to call someone in so

755
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,400
that they can tell tell you it's it's going to

756
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,599
be okay. They hate that because they've got to keep

757
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:41,480
you scared. It's just like it like in anyone else.

758
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:43,559
A bully, he's only got his power over you as

759
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,239
long as he can keep you scared. The instant you

760
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,320
realize that you know what, you've hurt me, I've taken

761
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,119
your worst. But you know what, I know You're scared

762
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:55,920
of me lining a blow to your nose because then

763
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,039
you'll you're going to bleed, and then you're gonna you're

764
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,559
gonna see that you're not you know, you're not breakable,

765
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,800
you're not iron Yeah, and then and then comes that

766
00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:09,880
joyous knowledge within your heart that yeah, I am somebody.

767
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,039
I can be somebody, and I can be somebody even

768
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,559
in my worst fears, and it creates this sense of

769
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:22,159
elan within you that is very uplifting. I get. There's

770
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,800
movies you watch when when the protagonist finally turns the

771
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,079
tide and then there's this sense of joy like yeah,

772
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:32,000
we got it, and you know, and that's that's that

773
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,119
feeling that has to land land in your heart from

774
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:39,000
within that then gives you the ultimate ability to reach

775
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:40,440
out and just go poof.

776
00:47:41,159 --> 00:47:44,039
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. What was that movie? There was a movie

777
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:45,920
kind of like that that reminds me of it. It's

778
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,400
like a twelve o'clock noon or something about that, Like

779
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,480
this kid's in school and he's getting bullied by this

780
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,840
giant of a guy.

781
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 6: Oh three o'clock high.

782
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:58,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, three o'clock guy. That that's a classic. And U

783
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,679
you know when you're when you're talking about this, that's

784
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:02,840
what it brings to mind, is this. You know in

785
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,760
that in that movie, the kid just does everything he

786
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,599
can not to confront it himself. You know, he's he's

787
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:12,119
running here, there and everywhere. He's trying to solicit other

788
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,559
people to take care of it for him, and all

789
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,480
of that fails, and in the end he's there facing

790
00:48:17,519 --> 00:48:20,480
it on his own and and and that's when it conquers,

791
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:24,920
you know. So I mean, what a perfect example, you know.

792
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,639
Speaker 6: Or a more recent one the Forbidden City with Jackie

793
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,119
Chan and Jetley the boy in the beginning running with

794
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,480
the staff and then at the end, after going through

795
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:36,599
all those trials and tribulations and that alternate reality, which

796
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,239
is I really love that movie. It's gorgeous. The scenery

797
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,760
is just phenomenal, it is. And and he comes back

798
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,559
to his his world and finally stands up to the bully.

799
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,079
And then as he's standing there and the bullies on

800
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:50,719
the ground bleeding, he says, you know, we don't have

801
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,119
to do this. He's he's still being good. He's not

802
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,559
become the bully, right, He's become he's become his ultimate

803
00:48:58,639 --> 00:48:59,679
good in her self.

804
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,039
Speaker 4: And ladies and gentlemen, please understand is this is It

805
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:06,760
may seem kind of out there to some of you

806
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,039
that that we are creating these kind of things, but

807
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,360
you know what is it? Quantum physics is demonstrating over

808
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,000
and over and over and over that we are creating

809
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,719
results in experiments. We are by virtue of our expectations

810
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:28,440
are are creating quantum reality, and so if it can

811
00:49:28,519 --> 00:49:31,599
happen on the microcosm like that, it can happen on

812
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,360
the macrocosm as well. And you know, I realized some

813
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,079
of these ideas may be foreign to a lot of

814
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,199
the listeners, But we do create things, and even Jesus

815
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,559
said it is done unto you as you believe. So

816
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:49,679
just know that that we are not these powerless little lemmings,

817
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:53,920
you know, constantly battling the waves of good and evil.

818
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,480
We are maybe the creators of the waves, you know,

819
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:01,679
And just imagine that. So you imagine that idea, and

820
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,400
how empowering does that become? That you're not at the

821
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,360
whims of some cosmic powers. Perhaps you are a cosmic power,

822
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,440
you know, acting in this world and in your life.

823
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,719
And how much control does that give you? So I

824
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,199
think it's I think it's really encouraging to hear things

825
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,960
like this that you know, Yeah, hauntings can be scary,

826
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,920
and dealing with something paranormal is absolutely terrifying to some people.

827
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,320
But if you can get your head around the idea

828
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,000
that you might be the one creating it, then you

829
00:50:30,039 --> 00:50:34,760
are absolutely empowered to take it away. And I think

830
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,199
that's very encouraging.

831
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:38,679
Speaker 6: And in the case of some hauntings are made worse

832
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,320
by the fact that your fears. Okay, so we're going

833
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,639
to go into pop culture again. One of your favorites

834
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:47,800
Tangina from Poltergeist. Clear your minds. He already knows what

835
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,760
scares you. He doesn't need any help or no, don't

836
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,559
give him any help. Yeah, and that is a thing

837
00:50:54,639 --> 00:50:57,719
as well. When Poltergeyst came out, I don't know who

838
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,280
Steven Spielberg, you know, quiz pulled, but he did his homework.

839
00:51:02,159 --> 00:51:04,559
I have a hard time poking a hole in any

840
00:51:04,599 --> 00:51:06,440
of the stuff he did except for the really pets,

841
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:08,599
you know, the special effects on the guy pulling his

842
00:51:08,639 --> 00:51:12,440
face apart that was really horrible, but all the rest

843
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,840
of it. The reason why it resonates so terrifyingly is

844
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,159
because there is a lot of information behind it in

845
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:21,239
that regard that it is something that that that happens,

846
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:26,039
and of course you know children are sensitive to it.

847
00:51:26,039 --> 00:51:30,679
It's it is and understanding that we can take back

848
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,719
or power, as most people do, and that the family structure,

849
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,159
the family unit itself. And the second one they showed

850
00:51:37,159 --> 00:51:38,960
this because and I believes Pielbergh wanted to show it

851
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,559
in the first one, but he didn't want to have

852
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:45,239
a two hour film, right, And so I think it's

853
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,400
like an hour and thirty something minutes or an hour

854
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,880
and twenty. But you can see the powers of the

855
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,920
family together, the light that you generate because you love

856
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,880
your family, and it's it is a thing. When you

857
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:00,239
make a family, it is. It is a powerful structure

858
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,239
and an energy and a light source, so long as

859
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,199
you don't have someone in it being abusive. Now, I've

860
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,880
never I only dreamt of it in my own life

861
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,360
because my family was very very you know, I would

862
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,639
say not good. I don't want to put all the

863
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,440
negativity out there, sure, but I've seen people with good

864
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,480
families and as a child seeing them all together, loving,

865
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,320
and the light that it creates is it is a

866
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,239
real thing. And when you told me it told this

867
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,800
in the last show that we did together about your

868
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,320
son and you going together, and I told you, it

869
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,639
creates that light. And this is a fantastic segue to

870
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:42,760
go back to that, because the light that you create

871
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,239
together is how you drive the things off. Right, just

872
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,519
putting his hand in yours immediately that your two your

873
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:56,199
auras connect combine and become something greater than the sum

874
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,079
of the parts. It becomes exponentially stronger, and it is

875
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,320
it is the beauty of math, as Galileo spoke of

876
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,559
that with math is the language by which God has

877
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,760
written the stars.

878
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: Wow. Very profound, very profound.

879
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 6: Just quoting Galileo.

880
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 4: So now just in closing, Sean, how can people stay

881
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,559
in touch with you?

882
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 6: Well, if you need me, you can find me on

883
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,280
Facebook at Magic Oak Paranormal Investigation and Elimination. And yes,

884
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,599
I do realize that the acronym is MOPI. Or you

885
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:33,960
can find me on YouTube under Ian's Magic Oak, where

886
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,159
we do shows usually weekly when everybody's available. Or you

887
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:42,039
can email me at Ian's that has no apostrophe Magic

888
00:53:42,199 --> 00:53:45,559
That's M. A. G. C. K. Oak as in the

889
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:50,199
tree Oak at gmail dot com and I usually respond

890
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:53,559
right away the if you go to the Facebook page,

891
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:56,880
I get notices within seconds. So if you are in need,

892
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,920
I stand here to help.

893
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,679
Speaker 4: Well, wonder if brother, and thank you so much for

894
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,199
coming on once again and and sharing these thoughts and

895
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,960
ideas and this insight, because I think that you know

896
00:54:09,039 --> 00:54:11,719
it's kind of the it's the g I Joe line

897
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,440
but it's true. You know. Uh, knowledge is power and

898
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,639
that's there now, you know, And that's half the battle.

899
00:54:19,639 --> 00:54:22,719
It's what that phrase is and uh, you know, it's

900
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,320
really it's corny, but it's true. It's if if you

901
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:28,239
if you don't know, then you are subject to the

902
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,079
knowledge of someone else. But if you know, then you

903
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,679
are only subject to your own knowledge and your your

904
00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:36,280
own understanding. So that's a big part of what the

905
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,159
portal is is a discussion to help people understand and

906
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,480
to hopefully we'll all grow together, you know, because I

907
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,239
don't think anybody has all this dialed in. But together

908
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,239
I think we create a community and a network of understanding,

909
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,599
which I think is very powerful. So but once again, brother,

910
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:55,119
thank you so much for being here and being a

911
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:58,239
part of the shows. You were now the first person

912
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,519
ever to do repeat a apearance on the podcast.

913
00:55:01,679 --> 00:55:03,039
Speaker 6: So I'm honored.

914
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,679
Speaker 4: Well I'm honored as well, and thank you for all

915
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,760
that you do on behalf of those who need the

916
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,440
help and for all of us. You know, it's nice

917
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,400
no one you're out there man.

918
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 6: As I said, it's my pleasure. I'm honored that people

919
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,519
actually come to me and ask for help and put

920
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:25,519
their their worries at my feet because that is very humbly.

921
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: Oh great, and you do a wonderful job. I've heard

922
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,000
back from many, many people that you have helped, and

923
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,920
I've not heard anybody come back and say, well, that

924
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,679
was a waste of my time. I'll never get those

925
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,440
five minutes back. I've not heard that one yet. What

926
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,559
I've heard is, wow, Sean really helped. It was great.

927
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,800
The situation's really under control now, and thank you so much.

928
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,400
And they're thanking me for what you're doing. And it's like, well,

929
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,679
you know all, I was point you in that direction,

930
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,920
but you know so, but thank you, you know, officially

931
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,840
and wholeheartedly. What you're doing is amazing. You and Joel

932
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,400
and Diane and everyone else that works in concert with you.

933
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:02,960
You guys are doing some amazing stuff.

934
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 6: I appreciate it. And thank you for having me on

935
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,440
your show again.

936
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 4: All right, brother, well, thank you and thank you all

937
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,559
for being here and being a part of the portals

938
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,360
the podcast. You know we are broadcasting. New podcasts are

939
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,800
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940
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941
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943
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944
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,920
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945
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946
00:56:40,199 --> 00:56:44,079
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947
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:48,000
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948
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much as you can. Take care everybody. We'll see you soon.

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