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what are we in now day four thousand and two
of the shutdown? No, actually, I think we're in day
twenty nine. And now it's getting serious. Now it's for real.
Now the pressure is up to eleven out of ten.
Just whatever analogy you want to use in there, just
however hyperbolic or you know, catastrophizing you would like to
make this, just go for it. That is the standard, apparently,
So the big focus now in the media because that's
what the Democrats would like us to focus on. And
I'm not saying it's not worthy of focus. I'm just
pointing out that Democrats want this argument now to shift
from who's responsible for the shutout or shut down rather
not the shutout. I guess there's a shutout on votes.
They've held thirteen votes in the US Senate and virtually
every Democrat except for two have voted to keep the
shutdown going. So and I've gone over the details of
why that is the case. This is, I mean, is
it's a nakedly political move by Democrats. I have explained
all of this over the last few weeks. And so
now we are approaching the point where Democrats poll numbers
are dropping. We covered that yesterday. The No Kings rally
already occurred. So the fear that Chuck Schumer had about
opening the government up and quote unquote caving to Republicans
right before a whole bunch of leftist moonbats descended on
the Capitol, you know, he avoided that. And so now
you would think this would be an opportunity to actually
move off of the position that Republicans need to expand
Obamacare permanently in a way that Democrats refused to do
for the last fifteen years when they had multiple opportunities
to do so, but refused to do so, and then
layered in more subsidies, and now want those temporary subsidies
that they wrote. They wrote the bill for the temporary subsidies.
They were the ones that passed it. They were the
ones that did it, making the subsidies temporary, and now
they want Republicans to make them permanent. These are the
things that Democrats are tomaining Republicans do that Democrats refuse
to do. That's why I say it's nakedly political. So
now it's about to get serious because while you know, yes,
military service members, we're going to miss a paycheck, I
don't really think Democrats cared a lot about that. There
was an anonymous donor, although I think people identified the guy.
He stepped forward and cut a check for like one
hundred and eighty million dollars or something to pay for
one round of the payroll for the service members, which
you know, the left will see that and say, oh, well, that's,
you know, some evidence of corruption. He's trying to buy favors,
because it just doesn't dawn on them that there are
people that love the country and want to take care
of the service members, and so they have the money
to do it, and so they write the check to
do it.
Speaker 1: But this is like a civic.
Speaker 2: Mindedness that Americans have had for our entire history. It's
what alects us to Tokeville talked about people joining all
these civic organizations and such. But now we're coming to
a demographic, a constituency that is more closely centered around
the Democrat Party's heart.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. They don't have a heart anyway.
Speaker 2: Republican Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri, he has a bill
that would address the impending suspension of SNAP benefits SNAP
stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program aka food stamps. Okay,
that's what they were called when I was growing up.
They've been called that forever. But then they were like,
that's stigmatizing, which again, it's not the name that's stigmatizing.
It's the condition, right, that's the It's like any other
word that people use. And then all of a sudden
it is like, oh, you can't use that word because
it's stigmatizing. It's not the word, it's the condition, okay.
And the condition gets stigmatized for some reason, and you
know a lot of times it's for good reason.
Speaker 1: It's associated with you.
Speaker 2: Know, shame, debauchery, lackadaisicalness, lack a daisicality, whatever, Like there's
usually some behavior that's attached to the to the term
to the condition.
Speaker 1: So Josh Hawley has a bill, and this bill would
fund just the snap. Okay.
Speaker 2: The US Department of Agriculture, administers the foodstamp program's benefits,
has announced that due to the shutdown, quote, the well
has run dry and there will be no benefits issued
starting on November one. And by the way, the USDA
has been has been saying this for the last month,
almost right since the shutdown began. The USDA has been
saying that the annual or the sorry, the monthly cost here,
and it's like eight or nine billion dollars a month
in food stamps. And they're like, we don't have money
to cover this. And you know, we operate month to
month on you know, money we borrow from China.
Speaker 1: I guess uh. So, look, we don't have the money
for this.
Speaker 2: So if you guys are going to do with this
for the long term, just be aware we're not going
to be able to pay out the food stamps. So
Hawley's bill, called the Keep Snap Funded Act, or the KSFA,
or as I call it, the CASIFA, It would appropriate
federal funds to the foodstamp program and would also provide retroactive.
Speaker 1: Benefits to those who have missed them.
Speaker 2: It currently has eleven sponsors, and it actually has a
Democrat who has signed on in support, Peter Welch of Vermont.
I have no idea if he's related to the Welsh
food people, but or the Betting family. Either way, Peter
Welch only Democrat to sign on. Once again, that makes
this a bipartisan bill by the definitions that are applied.
Whenever Democrats run a bill and they get a Republican
on board, like Adam Kinsinger or Liz Cheney, they call
that bipartisan. But when you get a bill that a
Democrat signs on too, if you're a Republican, that doesn't count.
Every prior attempt to fund the government on a piecemeal
basis has failed. During this current government shutdown, there was
a bill from Ron Johnson, the Senator from Wisconsin, to
pay federal employees that got rejected by Democrats. There was
a bill to fund the Department of War to pay
the troops that got blocked by Democrats. Ted Cruz had
a bill to pay air traffic controllers that got blocked
by Democrats. Are you sensing a pattern here? It's almost
as if there is one voting block of people in
the Senate that do not want the government to reopen.
So these aren't I mentioned this the other day. These
rifle shot bills is what they call them. So these
are like individual pew pew pew.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like.
Speaker 2: Individual like little mini budgets if you will, in order
to get critical spending approved. And these have been attempts
to put Democrats on the spot and pressure them to
create momentum for funding the government. Okay, Senator John Haven
from North Dakota, he said, we got to fund all
these things, but we're trying to get the ball rolling.
So that's why you see some of these rifle shot ideas.
But there is a concern that if Democrats take the
opportunity to fund specific areas of government, it could remove
pressure points for them to facilitate a full reopening. So
this is the game that is being played that if
you do these rifle shot bills and you fund these
critical things, then Democrats may never reopen the government, to
which I say, please do not throw me in that
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So that, by the way, I was reading that piece
from George Caldwell at the Daily Signal Daily Signal dot com.
Speaker 1: Here's Politico.
Speaker 2: Senate Democrats are now preparing to introduce their own bill
to keep food aid benefits flowing for millions of Americans
during the government shutdown ahead of a November one funding cliff.
The legislation is not the same, this will surprise you,
not the same as the bill that was put forth
by Josh Hawley, a Republican, which would just fund SNAP
and payback states that had fronted money and stuff, so
you know, past benefits or whatever. So that's Hawley's bill,
and it is what they're calling, you know, a rifle
shot bill.
Speaker 1: So it's just this one element of.
Speaker 2: The much larger federal budget that's included in the continuing resolution.
The legislation from the Democrat side is introduced by Ben Ray.
Speaker 1: Lu Jan lu John Lujhon. There's a little thing over
the a. There's like a little accent Lujon, I think.
Speaker 2: So he's a Democrat from New Mexico, and he could
draw Democratic support away from Hawley's bill, which almost makes
it seem like that's the point.
Speaker 1: Hawley's bill pushes.
Speaker 2: USDA and the Treasury Department to fully fund the November
benefits under the SNAP benefit program, and Lujon's bill, on
the other hand, would require the administration to fund both
SNAP as well as another aid program that serves low
income women and children. I will come back to that
part later. It would also require that states be reimbursed
for funding benefits during the shutdown. Okay, so very similar
to Hawley's bill, except adding in this other component of
the Low Income Women and Children program. Agriculture Secretary see
here's the rub okay. Agriculture Secretary brook Rollins said that
it would cost the Department nine point two billion dollars
to fund November's SNAP benefits along with administrative costs and
nutrition block grants for US territories. That's the monthly cost okay,
nine point two and she emphasized that USDA does not
have those dollars on hand. Democratic officials from twenty five
states and the District of Columbia have now challenged the
administration's decision a decision not to tap emergency funds, and
they have made this challenge in court and signing on
to the court case is our very own baby, JESUS
Attorney General Jeff Jackson.
Speaker 3: You are about to see a lot of headlines about
something and it's going to affect millions of people.
Speaker 2: I feel like he should be doing a meditation app,
you know. I think he's really missing his calling. He
could do a meditation app maybe do a little side
hustle with ASMR stuff online.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm trying to be helpful.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 3: The Attorney General for North Carolina and we, along with
all fifty states, just got a letter from the Department
of Agriculture. This is the department that runs the SNOW program,
which is our country's big food assistance program, and they
are essentially shutting it down next week. The letter tells
us not to provide food assistance to anyone starting November first.
That's sixteen million kids, one in four in our country,
six hundred thousand just in North Carolina. Children make up
almost half the entire SNAP program. The average benefit is
about one hundred and eighty dollars a month, and the
department says it is stopping all payments because of the
government shutdown and a lack of funds. But the truth
is they have the money. They have a six billion
dollar emergency fund that Congress gave them for exactly the situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, they have an emergency fund. Well, wait a minute,
why won't they use that. Jeff Jackson aka Baby Jesus,
by the way, that's the term that is fellow Democrats
in the North Carolina Legislature gave him, not me. So
if he's saying then that the money is there, and
Congress specifically allocated this emergency funding for this very situation,
why wouldn't the USDA tap that fund? Hm? Hm oh,
I know, because Orange man bad, Orange Hitler, fascism, star
of the babies.
Speaker 1: Right, something like that?
Speaker 2: Is that just immediately jumping to the motivation that is
derived out of evil?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: Or is it possible just spitball in here? Is it
possible that maybe Jeff Jackson might not be telling us
the whole story? Is that possible? Is it possible that
Jeff Jackson might be behaving in a bit of a
partisan way along with the twenty four whatever other Democrat
attorneys general that are suing in order to support Chuck
Schumer's shut down, which, again keep in mind, Chuck schumer
shutdown is because he's terrified of the leftist base, as
are a lot of Democrats overthrowing him and putting in
Alexandria A. Cazo Cortez in the primary election in New
York State in this run for US Senate, Schumer wants
to run for reelection. He's like seven hundred years old.
And so here comes you know, AOC very popular among
the leftists, and they are going to call the tune
in the Democrat primary. And Schumer is very worried about that.
And by the way, I have evidence of this. I'm
going to play you an audio clip.
Speaker 1: You will hear it. I am not making this up.
So and by the way, this is being widely reported
up in Washington, d C. As well.
Speaker 2: So is it possible Jeff Jackson might not be telling
us the whole truth that the six billion dollars emergency
fund could be tapped? Well, first off, what did I
just give you in the in that figure from the USDA,
it's nine billion. That's the cost is nine point two
billion dollars for the month of November to have, you know,
to pay everything out the emergency fund is six billion. Okay,
So first off, you're like thirty three percent short of
what you're going to need. Also, by the way, I
would point out that his the average is one hundred
eighty eight dollars. Now he doesn't say the average benefit
is one hundred eighty eight dollars, Like is that per
person in a household? So if you have six people
in a household, you're getting like twelve hundred dollars is
that or is it just one eighty eight per household,
because that doesn't seem right at all. Right, of course
it's per person and that's the average. So some people
get less, some people get way more. So again it's this,
you know, massaging of the information in order to spin
a narrative that Democrats want people to believe in order
to apply pressure to Republicans to make them agree to
do something that Democrats themselves refused to do for a
decade and a half. They refuse to do it. They
had the trifecta, they had a Democrat president, Senate, House control.
They never made the Obamacare subsidies permanent. They never did that.
But now they want Republicans to do it, and they're
holding everybody else hostage.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Also, they don't want the Big Beautiful Bill provisions to remain.
That's what the cr includes. They're still fighting the Big
Beautiful Bill and they want Republicans to go back on
their signature legislation.
Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. Okay.
Speaker 2: So that's the thing in a negotiation. You have to
understand what is possible that is not possible. What is
possible is passing the continuing resolution. The problem is Democrats'
incentives are not aligned with doing so, which is why
they are not doing so.
Speaker 1: It's very simple.
Speaker 2: There's another thing that Jeff Jackson said, though, that I'm
going to come back to, and that is can they
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was no Kings. This week it's please feed me my King. Yes,
that's actually really the scandal. And then there's a graphic
here of the various Democrats and their quotes on the shutdown.
Let's see here Martin Heinrich paying our troops quote gives
the president more leverage. Bernie Sanders says, you reopen the
government and we lose our leverage. Chuck Schuma, every day
gets us, every day gets better for us, That's what
he said. Reuben Diego said, then I just go back
and shut it down again. Chris Coon said, frankly, this
is our only moment of leverage, and although a very
unpleasant tool to.
Speaker 1: Use, we're totally going to use it.
Speaker 2: Congresswoman Catherine Clark said. There will be families that are
going to suffer, but it is one of the few
leverage times we have. And I played that sound bite
last week, and in fact, we have yet another SoundBite.
This one is from Shelley white House.
Speaker 3: Why are working families the lever the Democrats need to
get Obamacare fixed? You get the Republicans to fix Obamacare?
Speaker 1: Why is that the place you guys got have to
go that far?
Speaker 4: It's the only lever we have, and frankly, it wouldn't
be a lever at all if Republicans were being reasonable
and doing exactly what they should be doing for the
sake of their own constituents, so many of whom depend
on the affordable care headas.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there it is.
Speaker 2: He's going to hold the food stamp hostage until Republicans
agreed to expand Obamacare and its subsidies, which is what
Republicans have opposed since Democrats in a party line vote,
rammed it down the throats of the American people a
decade ago. Republicans have been against Obamacare from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: They have never voted for it.
Speaker 2: They've never voted for the subsidies, the expansions, all of
that stuff. They've opposed, even Democrats, even some Democrats when
it was originally passed. I went over all of this
last week. Even some Democrats opposed it, that they had
to get bribed with exemptions in Obamacare in order to
vote for it. Even Democrats refuse to do what Democrats
are demanding Republicans do right now. They are trying to
extract some win, some victory, and they're demanding Republicans cave
on it, and they are willing to make people suffer
in order to get that. Oh and by the way,
all of this is based on an assumption that Obamacare
isn't the colossal failure that it has been. Remember it
was supposed to bend the cost curve. Remember that lie
if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
Another lie actually voted or rated the lie of the
Year by that right wing rag the Washington Post and
it's PolitiFact bs meter.
Speaker 1: So let's go.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the cost. The cost of the snap is
over nine billion dollars. There is this emergency fund. Okay,
the US Department of Agriculture. This is from a week ago,
almost well five days ago. The USDA says it will
not tap into its contingency fund to cover food stamp
benefits next month if the shutdown continues. Okay, They sent
out a memo and they said that the can contingency
fund is only six billion dollars and the cost for
the food stamps for November is over nine billion, so
they are short.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now you can say, well, every little bit matters, so
you should just deplete, just drain the entire contingency fund, which,
by the way, that is very on brand for Democrats.
You'll recall our Governor Roy Cooper, who now wants to
be in charge of the federal spending and make these
decisions at a federal level. He was of the opinion
that we should drain the rainy day fund. Right. He
wanted to keep depleting the rainy day fund in order
to pay for teacher pay raises and then not have
any money in reserve for emergencies, which is on brand
for him because he really doesn't pay any attention to
any emergencies, at least when it comes to the weather
and actual rainy days. Anyway, So that means that roughly
forty two million Americans are not going to receive food
stamp assistance through SNAP. Okay, here's what the memo says.
Quote SNAP contingency funds are only available to supplement regular
monthly benefits when amounts have been appropriated for but are
insufficient to cover benefits. The contingency fund is not available
to support fiscal year twenty twenty six regular benefits because
the appropriation for regular benefits no longer exists. Does that
make sense? The key here is the regular benefits. This
is the wording that is used. And so they're saying
these contingency funds are there to supplement regular monthly benefits,
not to supplant. You cannot use the emergency funds to
pay out the regular monthly benefits because the appropriation does that.
Now you guys are not appropriating. That doesn't make it.
That doesn't change the definition of when you can use
the contingency funds. Also, states will not be reimbursed if
they use their own funds to pay for benefits according
to this memo.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, again, this is why Josh Hawley and Lujon Senator
Lujhon from Louisiana wherever he's from. That's why they are
including that provision in both of their rifle shot bills. Now,
as you might imagine, leftists disagree with this. The Lefty
Center on Budget and Policy priorities. The president there, Sharon Parrot,
her name is Parrot anyway, she says Secretary Rollins's claim
is unequivocally false. In fact, the administration is legally required
to use contingency reserves billions of dollars that Congress provided
for use when snap funding is inadequate, that remain available
during the shutdown.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess we're going to litigate this. Fine.
Speaker 2: You guys have differences of opinion about what the law says.
Take it to the courts. Have the courts interpret what
the law says what you can and cannot do. But
even even if Democrats win, even if Jeff Jackson aka
Baby Jesus and all of the Democrat attorney generals win,
even or attorneys general even if they win in court,
First off, when does that happen?
Speaker 1: Is it after November one? Number two?
Speaker 2: Let's say you get a rush on the court case
and you get a rush decision and you force the
USDA to raid the contingency fund. You still haven't paid
out the full benefits because there's not enough money in
the contingency fund. Number two and number three. Now there's
no more money in the contingency fund. And if Democrats
refuse to budge, we're in the same position, in fact
worse now because there's no contingency fund. See, Democrats are
not giving themselves any off ramp here. All right, If
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sometimes with a picture a screenshot of I guess a
Facebook meme so you know it's true. Just a reminder
that forty eight percent of Snap recipients work full time,
thirty nine percent of Snap recipients are kids, twenty percent
of Snap recipients are seniors. If you think it's funny
that people will go hungry, you are a terrible I'm
assuming it's person that got cut off there on the
image there, you are a terrible person, I'm assuming which
I assume Dana was saying that I was saying that
it's funny that people are getting cut off. I do
not think it's funny. It is the libertarian prophecy, though,
When you make people dependent on government, they are the
ones that actually get hurt the most because they then
become dependent. That dependency eventually gets shattered when they least
expect it, like the beginning of November, three weeks before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: See. That's see.
Speaker 2: Government makes all these promises to you, and people then
buy into the promises because they want stuff. They it's easy,
Oh good, let's let me have this free program, let
me have this benefit, let me have this service. And
then you keep voting for people that you know, keep
promising you more and more and more, and the whole
time you are becoming more and more dependent on the government.
And then one day something like this happens, and now
you are collateral damage.
Speaker 1: They do not care. Here's another example.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 2: Let's see here Josh Harder I think is his name. Yes,
he's a California Democrat, and he has asked about, look,
why don't you guys just pass the the CR, the
Continuing resolution passed the clean CR, and then try to
get these other things pasted.
Speaker 3: Why not take that route?
Speaker 2: I think the idea that you would give up all
of your leverage and then hopefully get some sort of
great deal coming down the pike is just a fool's Errand.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: It's about leverage. They're trying to get something. They want
something extra, and they are will And by the way,
this is not a new tactic, right. This is what
Roy Cooper did to teachers in North Carolina multiple times.
Multiple times he held teacher pay raises hostage in order
to get Medicaid expansion. He put a higher premium on
Medicaid expansion than the teachers pay raises. He did it
multiple times in the budget fights with the Republican legislature.
And you can say that that's okay, because Medicaid expansion
is worth it, whatever, whatever, but it doesn't negate the
very fact that he used residents of North Carolina, his constituents.
He used them as leverage. He used them as pawns
in order to get something that would benefit him personally.
And you could say it would benefit all of the
people that could get on Medicaid, although I would submit
that that's actually not for their benefit, because people actually
have worse outcomes on Medicaid than without even having any insurance.
But all that aside, he derived political benefit. And there
isn't any reason why you would do such a thing
unless there was something politically advantageous, which, by the way,
is what he is using to sell himself for the
US Senate race.
Speaker 1: Look at me.
Speaker 2: I voted to expand medicaid. I got medicaid expansion done,
which of course he did not. It was the Republican
legislature over objections from people like me. But they did
it anyway. And they crafted this formula based on other
states where they did like this increased tax on the
hospitals and then did a pass through and whatever, so
like that's how they quote paid for it. Well, that's
what's happening now. It's the same thing. You are expendable.
And I'm not laughing at the people who are now
dependent on government.
Speaker 1: It's sad to me.
Speaker 2: It is absolutely sad to me, because that's the real
scandal here. The number of Americans that are on the
SNAP program. That's the scandal. Why is one out of
eight Americans on food stamps? The corporations Elon Musk, orange
Man Hitler, like, it's all their fault, everybody's on the
food stamps? Or is this sort of the natural tendency
of all governments it is. I would say that that
is the case. Governments have a natural inclination, as all
organizations do, to expand. As George Washington said, it is
a useful servant, but a fearful master. Like fire, and
like fire, it will consume everything if not kept in check.
And that's what government is doing. The natural tendency is
for it to grow to, you know, offer security and
exchange for liberty and the nash the natural tendency of
citizens is to sacrifice liberty for that security. And then
of course you find out you don't have either, you
don't have the food security because your needs are now
at the whim of politicians making political judgments about leverage.
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