1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,599 Speaker 1: What's going on? 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,399 to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button. 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,320 Get every episode for free right to your smartphone or tablet. 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:29,239 And again, thank you so much for your support. So 10 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:32,359 what are we in now day four thousand and two 11 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:35,600 of the shutdown? No, actually, I think we're in day 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:42,679 twenty nine. And now it's getting serious. Now it's for real. 13 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:47,119 Now the pressure is up to eleven out of ten. 14 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Just whatever analogy you want to use in there, just 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,320 however hyperbolic or you know, catastrophizing you would like to 16 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:59,479 make this, just go for it. That is the standard, apparently, 17 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,640 So the big focus now in the media because that's 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,239 what the Democrats would like us to focus on. And 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,400 I'm not saying it's not worthy of focus. I'm just 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,159 pointing out that Democrats want this argument now to shift 21 00:01:13,359 --> 00:01:18,239 from who's responsible for the shutout or shut down rather 22 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:22,480 not the shutout. I guess there's a shutout on votes. 23 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:27,879 They've held thirteen votes in the US Senate and virtually 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,719 every Democrat except for two have voted to keep the 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:37,239 shutdown going. So and I've gone over the details of 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,000 why that is the case. This is, I mean, is 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,920 it's a nakedly political move by Democrats. I have explained 28 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,920 all of this over the last few weeks. And so 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,200 now we are approaching the point where Democrats poll numbers 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,439 are dropping. We covered that yesterday. The No Kings rally 31 00:02:00,439 --> 00:02:07,920 already occurred. So the fear that Chuck Schumer had about 32 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:12,520 opening the government up and quote unquote caving to Republicans 33 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:15,759 right before a whole bunch of leftist moonbats descended on 34 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:20,240 the Capitol, you know, he avoided that. And so now 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,759 you would think this would be an opportunity to actually 36 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:27,280 move off of the position that Republicans need to expand 37 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,919 Obamacare permanently in a way that Democrats refused to do 38 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,319 for the last fifteen years when they had multiple opportunities 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,599 to do so, but refused to do so, and then 40 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:43,800 layered in more subsidies, and now want those temporary subsidies 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,879 that they wrote. They wrote the bill for the temporary subsidies. 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,879 They were the ones that passed it. They were the 43 00:02:51,879 --> 00:02:56,479 ones that did it, making the subsidies temporary, and now 44 00:02:56,479 --> 00:02:58,759 they want Republicans to make them permanent. These are the 45 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:02,080 things that Democrats are tomaining Republicans do that Democrats refuse 46 00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:06,039 to do. That's why I say it's nakedly political. So 47 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,319 now it's about to get serious because while you know, yes, 48 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,719 military service members, we're going to miss a paycheck, I 49 00:03:16,719 --> 00:03:18,960 don't really think Democrats cared a lot about that. There 50 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,919 was an anonymous donor, although I think people identified the guy. 51 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,759 He stepped forward and cut a check for like one 52 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,919 hundred and eighty million dollars or something to pay for 53 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,800 one round of the payroll for the service members, which 54 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,400 you know, the left will see that and say, oh, well, that's, 55 00:03:36,879 --> 00:03:41,439 you know, some evidence of corruption. He's trying to buy favors, 56 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,479 because it just doesn't dawn on them that there are 57 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,759 people that love the country and want to take care 58 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:52,159 of the service members, and so they have the money 59 00:03:52,159 --> 00:03:53,879 to do it, and so they write the check to 60 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:54,159 do it. 61 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,879 Speaker 1: But this is like a civic. 62 00:03:56,599 --> 00:04:03,479 Speaker 2: Mindedness that Americans have had for our entire history. It's 63 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,759 what alects us to Tokeville talked about people joining all 64 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:11,520 these civic organizations and such. But now we're coming to 65 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:19,399 a demographic, a constituency that is more closely centered around 66 00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:21,000 the Democrat Party's heart. 67 00:04:21,439 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. They don't have a heart anyway. 68 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: Republican Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri, he has a bill 69 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:42,680 that would address the impending suspension of SNAP benefits SNAP 70 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:50,439 stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program aka food stamps. Okay, 71 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,079 that's what they were called when I was growing up. 72 00:04:52,319 --> 00:04:54,959 They've been called that forever. But then they were like, 73 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,800 that's stigmatizing, which again, it's not the name that's stigmatizing. 74 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,839 It's the condition, right, that's the It's like any other 75 00:05:04,519 --> 00:05:06,839 word that people use. And then all of a sudden 76 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,600 it is like, oh, you can't use that word because 77 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:11,560 it's stigmatizing. It's not the word, it's the condition, okay. 78 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:16,839 And the condition gets stigmatized for some reason, and you 79 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:19,160 know a lot of times it's for good reason. 80 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: It's associated with you. 81 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:30,199 Speaker 2: Know, shame, debauchery, lackadaisicalness, lack a daisicality, whatever, Like there's 82 00:05:30,319 --> 00:05:33,959 usually some behavior that's attached to the to the term 83 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:34,800 to the condition. 84 00:05:36,959 --> 00:05:40,639 Speaker 1: So Josh Hawley has a bill, and this bill would 85 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,160 fund just the snap. Okay. 86 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: The US Department of Agriculture, administers the foodstamp program's benefits, 87 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:53,040 has announced that due to the shutdown, quote, the well 88 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,199 has run dry and there will be no benefits issued 89 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,759 starting on November one. And by the way, the USDA 90 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,399 has been has been saying this for the last month, 91 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,920 almost right since the shutdown began. The USDA has been 92 00:06:10,199 --> 00:06:17,199 saying that the annual or the sorry, the monthly cost here, 93 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,800 and it's like eight or nine billion dollars a month 94 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:27,120 in food stamps. And they're like, we don't have money 95 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:29,920 to cover this. And you know, we operate month to 96 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,839 month on you know, money we borrow from China. 97 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: I guess uh. So, look, we don't have the money 98 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:36,439 for this. 99 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:37,879 Speaker 2: So if you guys are going to do with this 100 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:40,279 for the long term, just be aware we're not going 101 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,600 to be able to pay out the food stamps. So 102 00:06:43,519 --> 00:06:50,399 Hawley's bill, called the Keep Snap Funded Act, or the KSFA, 103 00:06:51,439 --> 00:06:54,519 or as I call it, the CASIFA, It would appropriate 104 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,160 federal funds to the foodstamp program and would also provide retroactive. 105 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,639 Speaker 1: Benefits to those who have missed them. 106 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: It currently has eleven sponsors, and it actually has a 107 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:10,120 Democrat who has signed on in support, Peter Welch of Vermont. 108 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,560 I have no idea if he's related to the Welsh 109 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:17,680 food people, but or the Betting family. Either way, Peter 110 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,199 Welch only Democrat to sign on. Once again, that makes 111 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:26,800 this a bipartisan bill by the definitions that are applied. 112 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:30,600 Whenever Democrats run a bill and they get a Republican 113 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,920 on board, like Adam Kinsinger or Liz Cheney, they call 114 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,079 that bipartisan. But when you get a bill that a 115 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,519 Democrat signs on too, if you're a Republican, that doesn't count. 116 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Every prior attempt to fund the government on a piecemeal 117 00:07:43,639 --> 00:07:47,120 basis has failed. During this current government shutdown, there was 118 00:07:47,199 --> 00:07:52,120 a bill from Ron Johnson, the Senator from Wisconsin, to 119 00:07:52,279 --> 00:07:57,000 pay federal employees that got rejected by Democrats. There was 120 00:07:57,079 --> 00:08:01,199 a bill to fund the Department of War to pay 121 00:08:01,279 --> 00:08:07,920 the troops that got blocked by Democrats. Ted Cruz had 122 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:13,240 a bill to pay air traffic controllers that got blocked 123 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:17,000 by Democrats. Are you sensing a pattern here? It's almost 124 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:22,120 as if there is one voting block of people in 125 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:25,360 the Senate that do not want the government to reopen. 126 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,920 So these aren't I mentioned this the other day. These 127 00:08:29,519 --> 00:08:32,440 rifle shot bills is what they call them. So these 128 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,320 are like individual pew pew pew. 129 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: You know, it's like. 130 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: Individual like little mini budgets if you will, in order 131 00:08:40,519 --> 00:08:47,080 to get critical spending approved. And these have been attempts 132 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,240 to put Democrats on the spot and pressure them to 133 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,639 create momentum for funding the government. 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All right, 163 00:10:36,919 --> 00:10:38,639 So that, by the way, I was reading that piece 164 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,840 from George Caldwell at the Daily Signal Daily Signal dot com. 165 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:44,519 Speaker 1: Here's Politico. 166 00:10:45,639 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: Senate Democrats are now preparing to introduce their own bill 167 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:54,159 to keep food aid benefits flowing for millions of Americans 168 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,240 during the government shutdown ahead of a November one funding cliff. 169 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:03,240 The legislation is not the same, this will surprise you, 170 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:06,399 not the same as the bill that was put forth 171 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:11,360 by Josh Hawley, a Republican, which would just fund SNAP 172 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:16,759 and payback states that had fronted money and stuff, so 173 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,720 you know, past benefits or whatever. So that's Hawley's bill, 174 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:24,960 and it is what they're calling, you know, a rifle 175 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,519 shot bill. 176 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: So it's just this one element of. 177 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: The much larger federal budget that's included in the continuing resolution. 178 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:37,039 The legislation from the Democrat side is introduced by Ben Ray. 179 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Lu Jan lu John Lujhon. There's a little thing over 180 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:47,120 the a. There's like a little accent Lujon, I think. 181 00:11:47,159 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: So he's a Democrat from New Mexico, and he could 182 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:55,080 draw Democratic support away from Hawley's bill, which almost makes 183 00:11:55,159 --> 00:11:56,720 it seem like that's the point. 184 00:11:57,639 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: Hawley's bill pushes. 185 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:04,639 Speaker 2: USDA and the Treasury Department to fully fund the November 186 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:11,039 benefits under the SNAP benefit program, and Lujon's bill, on 187 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,240 the other hand, would require the administration to fund both 188 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,879 SNAP as well as another aid program that serves low 189 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,759 income women and children. I will come back to that 190 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,279 part later. It would also require that states be reimbursed 191 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,480 for funding benefits during the shutdown. Okay, so very similar 192 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,519 to Hawley's bill, except adding in this other component of 193 00:12:35,639 --> 00:12:40,559 the Low Income Women and Children program. Agriculture Secretary see 194 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:45,799 here's the rub okay. Agriculture Secretary brook Rollins said that 195 00:12:45,879 --> 00:12:49,879 it would cost the Department nine point two billion dollars 196 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:56,320 to fund November's SNAP benefits along with administrative costs and 197 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:02,279 nutrition block grants for US territories. That's the monthly cost okay, 198 00:13:02,879 --> 00:13:06,679 nine point two and she emphasized that USDA does not 199 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,679 have those dollars on hand. Democratic officials from twenty five 200 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:15,399 states and the District of Columbia have now challenged the 201 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:21,120 administration's decision a decision not to tap emergency funds, and 202 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,960 they have made this challenge in court and signing on 203 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:27,200 to the court case is our very own baby, JESUS 204 00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:29,919 Attorney General Jeff Jackson. 205 00:13:29,799 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 3: You are about to see a lot of headlines about 206 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,639 something and it's going to affect millions of people. 207 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,159 Speaker 2: I feel like he should be doing a meditation app, 208 00:13:39,639 --> 00:13:42,679 you know. I think he's really missing his calling. He 209 00:13:42,759 --> 00:13:45,240 could do a meditation app maybe do a little side 210 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:47,480 hustle with ASMR stuff online. 211 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,159 Speaker 1: Look, I'm trying to be helpful. 212 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 4: There you go. 213 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,519 Speaker 3: The Attorney General for North Carolina and we, along with 214 00:13:53,759 --> 00:13:57,200 all fifty states, just got a letter from the Department 215 00:13:57,279 --> 00:14:00,600 of Agriculture. This is the department that runs the SNOW program, 216 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,480 which is our country's big food assistance program, and they 217 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:07,639 are essentially shutting it down next week. The letter tells 218 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,960 us not to provide food assistance to anyone starting November first. 219 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:17,039 That's sixteen million kids, one in four in our country, 220 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,919 six hundred thousand just in North Carolina. Children make up 221 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,919 almost half the entire SNAP program. The average benefit is 222 00:14:25,919 --> 00:14:28,080 about one hundred and eighty dollars a month, and the 223 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,320 department says it is stopping all payments because of the 224 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,639 government shutdown and a lack of funds. But the truth 225 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:38,159 is they have the money. They have a six billion 226 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:43,080 dollar emergency fund that Congress gave them for exactly the situation. 227 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: Okay, they have an emergency fund. Well, wait a minute, 228 00:14:49,759 --> 00:14:53,840 why won't they use that. Jeff Jackson aka Baby Jesus, 229 00:14:53,919 --> 00:14:55,919 by the way, that's the term that is fellow Democrats 230 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,519 in the North Carolina Legislature gave him, not me. So 231 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,879 if he's saying then that the money is there, and 232 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:09,080 Congress specifically allocated this emergency funding for this very situation, 233 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:17,519 why wouldn't the USDA tap that fund? Hm? Hm oh, 234 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,960 I know, because Orange man bad, Orange Hitler, fascism, star 235 00:15:23,039 --> 00:15:24,159 of the babies. 236 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:24,679 Speaker 1: Right, something like that? 237 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:29,799 Speaker 2: Is that just immediately jumping to the motivation that is 238 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:30,840 derived out of evil? 239 00:15:31,039 --> 00:15:31,159 Speaker 4: Is that? 240 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: Or is it possible just spitball in here? Is it 241 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:40,840 possible that maybe Jeff Jackson might not be telling us 242 00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:45,200 the whole story? Is that possible? Is it possible that 243 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:48,919 Jeff Jackson might be behaving in a bit of a 244 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:55,120 partisan way along with the twenty four whatever other Democrat 245 00:15:55,639 --> 00:16:00,519 attorneys general that are suing in order to support Chuck 246 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:04,279 Schumer's shut down, which, again keep in mind, Chuck schumer 247 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,519 shutdown is because he's terrified of the leftist base, as 248 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:12,600 are a lot of Democrats overthrowing him and putting in 249 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,759 Alexandria A. Cazo Cortez in the primary election in New 250 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,120 York State in this run for US Senate, Schumer wants 251 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:22,759 to run for reelection. He's like seven hundred years old. 252 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:27,399 And so here comes you know, AOC very popular among 253 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:31,559 the leftists, and they are going to call the tune 254 00:16:31,919 --> 00:16:34,799 in the Democrat primary. And Schumer is very worried about that. 255 00:16:35,679 --> 00:16:37,840 And by the way, I have evidence of this. I'm 256 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,120 going to play you an audio clip. 257 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,879 Speaker 1: You will hear it. I am not making this up. 258 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,039 So and by the way, this is being widely reported 259 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,600 up in Washington, d C. As well. 260 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,879 Speaker 2: So is it possible Jeff Jackson might not be telling 261 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,559 us the whole truth that the six billion dollars emergency 262 00:16:55,159 --> 00:16:58,159 fund could be tapped? Well, first off, what did I 263 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,480 just give you in the in that figure from the USDA, 264 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:07,480 it's nine billion. That's the cost is nine point two 265 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,119 billion dollars for the month of November to have, you know, 266 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:17,279 to pay everything out the emergency fund is six billion. Okay, 267 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:20,599 So first off, you're like thirty three percent short of 268 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,359 what you're going to need. Also, by the way, I 269 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,160 would point out that his the average is one hundred 270 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,559 eighty eight dollars. Now he doesn't say the average benefit 271 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,920 is one hundred eighty eight dollars, Like is that per 272 00:17:33,039 --> 00:17:36,200 person in a household? So if you have six people 273 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,680 in a household, you're getting like twelve hundred dollars is 274 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:42,640 that or is it just one eighty eight per household, 275 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,039 because that doesn't seem right at all. Right, of course 276 00:17:46,079 --> 00:17:48,720 it's per person and that's the average. So some people 277 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:52,279 get less, some people get way more. So again it's this, 278 00:17:52,599 --> 00:17:57,160 you know, massaging of the information in order to spin 279 00:17:57,279 --> 00:18:01,480 a narrative that Democrats want people to believe in order 280 00:18:01,519 --> 00:18:04,839 to apply pressure to Republicans to make them agree to 281 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,200 do something that Democrats themselves refused to do for a 282 00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:12,039 decade and a half. They refuse to do it. They 283 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:17,240 had the trifecta, they had a Democrat president, Senate, House control. 284 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:21,920 They never made the Obamacare subsidies permanent. They never did that. 285 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:24,920 But now they want Republicans to do it, and they're 286 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,039 holding everybody else hostage. 287 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 4: Oh. 288 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 2: Also, they don't want the Big Beautiful Bill provisions to remain. 289 00:18:32,759 --> 00:18:35,839 That's what the cr includes. They're still fighting the Big 290 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,400 Beautiful Bill and they want Republicans to go back on 291 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:40,599 their signature legislation. 292 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,559 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. Okay. 293 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 2: So that's the thing in a negotiation. You have to 294 00:18:45,319 --> 00:18:50,680 understand what is possible that is not possible. What is 295 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:55,200 possible is passing the continuing resolution. The problem is Democrats' 296 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,160 incentives are not aligned with doing so, which is why 297 00:18:59,599 --> 00:19:00,400 they are not doing so. 298 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:01,519 Speaker 1: It's very simple. 299 00:19:02,599 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: There's another thing that Jeff Jackson said, though, that I'm 300 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,039 going to come back to, and that is can they 301 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,000 actually use the emergency fund for this situation. Here's a 302 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:14,839 great idea. How about making an escape to a really 303 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,160 special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 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Reuben Diego said, then I just go back 332 00:21:04,319 --> 00:21:07,559 and shut it down again. Chris Coon said, frankly, this 333 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,720 is our only moment of leverage, and although a very 334 00:21:09,839 --> 00:21:10,680 unpleasant tool to. 335 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: Use, we're totally going to use it. 336 00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: Congresswoman Catherine Clark said. There will be families that are 337 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:18,279 going to suffer, but it is one of the few 338 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,000 leverage times we have. And I played that sound bite 339 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:26,400 last week, and in fact, we have yet another SoundBite. 340 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,599 This one is from Shelley white House. 341 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,039 Speaker 3: Why are working families the lever the Democrats need to 342 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,519 get Obamacare fixed? You get the Republicans to fix Obamacare? 343 00:21:36,559 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: Why is that the place you guys got have to 344 00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:40,559 go that far? 345 00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 4: It's the only lever we have, and frankly, it wouldn't 346 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,839 be a lever at all if Republicans were being reasonable 347 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,759 and doing exactly what they should be doing for the 348 00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:54,839 sake of their own constituents, so many of whom depend 349 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,839 on the affordable care headas. 350 00:21:57,319 --> 00:21:58,319 Speaker 1: Okay, so there it is. 351 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,599 Speaker 2: He's going to hold the food stamp hostage until Republicans 352 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,680 agreed to expand Obamacare and its subsidies, which is what 353 00:22:07,799 --> 00:22:14,039 Republicans have opposed since Democrats in a party line vote, 354 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,680 rammed it down the throats of the American people a 355 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:23,720 decade ago. Republicans have been against Obamacare from the very beginning. 356 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: They have never voted for it. 357 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,799 Speaker 2: They've never voted for the subsidies, the expansions, all of 358 00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:33,559 that stuff. They've opposed, even Democrats, even some Democrats when 359 00:22:33,599 --> 00:22:35,200 it was originally passed. I went over all of this 360 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,319 last week. Even some Democrats opposed it, that they had 361 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:43,240 to get bribed with exemptions in Obamacare in order to 362 00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:48,480 vote for it. Even Democrats refuse to do what Democrats 363 00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:52,880 are demanding Republicans do right now. They are trying to 364 00:22:53,079 --> 00:22:59,160 extract some win, some victory, and they're demanding Republicans cave 365 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,400 on it, and they are willing to make people suffer 366 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,880 in order to get that. Oh and by the way, 367 00:23:07,319 --> 00:23:09,759 all of this is based on an assumption that Obamacare 368 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,680 isn't the colossal failure that it has been. Remember it 369 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:17,799 was supposed to bend the cost curve. Remember that lie 370 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,400 if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. 371 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,839 Another lie actually voted or rated the lie of the 372 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,799 Year by that right wing rag the Washington Post and 373 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,839 it's PolitiFact bs meter. 374 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,279 Speaker 1: So let's go. 375 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: I mentioned the cost. The cost of the snap is 376 00:23:37,319 --> 00:23:42,480 over nine billion dollars. There is this emergency fund. Okay, 377 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,480 the US Department of Agriculture. This is from a week ago, 378 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,839 almost well five days ago. The USDA says it will 379 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:53,839 not tap into its contingency fund to cover food stamp 380 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,640 benefits next month if the shutdown continues. Okay, They sent 381 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,640 out a memo and they said that the can contingency 382 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:06,119 fund is only six billion dollars and the cost for 383 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,680 the food stamps for November is over nine billion, so 384 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:10,519 they are short. 385 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Okay. 386 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: Now you can say, well, every little bit matters, so 387 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,359 you should just deplete, just drain the entire contingency fund, which, 388 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,960 by the way, that is very on brand for Democrats. 389 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,400 You'll recall our Governor Roy Cooper, who now wants to 390 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,960 be in charge of the federal spending and make these 391 00:24:28,039 --> 00:24:32,200 decisions at a federal level. He was of the opinion 392 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,599 that we should drain the rainy day fund. Right. He 393 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960 wanted to keep depleting the rainy day fund in order 394 00:24:39,039 --> 00:24:42,160 to pay for teacher pay raises and then not have 395 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,039 any money in reserve for emergencies, which is on brand 396 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:46,960 for him because he really doesn't pay any attention to 397 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,119 any emergencies, at least when it comes to the weather 398 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,920 and actual rainy days. Anyway, So that means that roughly 399 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,720 forty two million Americans are not going to receive food 400 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:02,319 stamp assistance through SNAP. Okay, here's what the memo says. 401 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:08,440 Quote SNAP contingency funds are only available to supplement regular 402 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,359 monthly benefits when amounts have been appropriated for but are 403 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,319 insufficient to cover benefits. The contingency fund is not available 404 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:26,200 to support fiscal year twenty twenty six regular benefits because 405 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:32,720 the appropriation for regular benefits no longer exists. Does that 406 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:36,920 make sense? The key here is the regular benefits. This 407 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,960 is the wording that is used. And so they're saying 408 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,839 these contingency funds are there to supplement regular monthly benefits, 409 00:25:46,079 --> 00:25:51,599 not to supplant. You cannot use the emergency funds to 410 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:59,119 pay out the regular monthly benefits because the appropriation does that. 411 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,680 Now you guys are not appropriating. That doesn't make it. 412 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,920 That doesn't change the definition of when you can use 413 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,799 the contingency funds. Also, states will not be reimbursed if 414 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:13,160 they use their own funds to pay for benefits according 415 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,200 to this memo. 416 00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:14,759 Speaker 1: Right. 417 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: So, again, this is why Josh Hawley and Lujon Senator 418 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,799 Lujhon from Louisiana wherever he's from. That's why they are 419 00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:29,559 including that provision in both of their rifle shot bills. Now, 420 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,000 as you might imagine, leftists disagree with this. The Lefty 421 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,480 Center on Budget and Policy priorities. The president there, Sharon Parrot, 422 00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:46,599 her name is Parrot anyway, she says Secretary Rollins's claim 423 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,759 is unequivocally false. In fact, the administration is legally required 424 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,440 to use contingency reserves billions of dollars that Congress provided 425 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,279 for use when snap funding is inadequate, that remain available 426 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,000 during the shutdown. 427 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so I guess we're going to litigate this. Fine. 428 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 2: You guys have differences of opinion about what the law says. 429 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:08,440 Take it to the courts. Have the courts interpret what 430 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:10,279 the law says what you can and cannot do. But 431 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,720 even even if Democrats win, even if Jeff Jackson aka 432 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,480 Baby Jesus and all of the Democrat attorney generals win, 433 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:20,680 even or attorneys general even if they win in court, 434 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,279 First off, when does that happen? 435 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,559 Speaker 1: Is it after November one? Number two? 436 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: Let's say you get a rush on the court case 437 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,039 and you get a rush decision and you force the 438 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,839 USDA to raid the contingency fund. You still haven't paid 439 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,279 out the full benefits because there's not enough money in 440 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,160 the contingency fund. Number two and number three. Now there's 441 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,880 no more money in the contingency fund. And if Democrats 442 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,519 refuse to budge, we're in the same position, in fact 443 00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:52,319 worse now because there's no contingency fund. See, Democrats are 444 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,799 not giving themselves any off ramp here. All right, If 445 00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:57,599 you're listening to this show, you know I try to 446 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,400 keep up with all sorts of current events, and I 447 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,000 know you do, and you've probably heard me say get 448 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,039 your news from multiple sources. Why Well, because it's how 449 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:08,640 you detect media bias, which is why I've been so 450 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:12,960 impressed with ground News. It's an app and it's a website, 451 00:28:13,079 --> 00:28:15,440 and it combines news from around the world in one 452 00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:18,920 place so you can compare coverage and verify information. 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I 465 00:28:49,359 --> 00:28:52,640 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 466 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,599 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 467 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,799 also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape 468 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:05,279 more transparent. Okay, this is from Dana, who is antagonistic 469 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,720 sometimes with a picture a screenshot of I guess a 470 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:14,519 Facebook meme so you know it's true. Just a reminder 471 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,039 that forty eight percent of Snap recipients work full time, 472 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,839 thirty nine percent of Snap recipients are kids, twenty percent 473 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,359 of Snap recipients are seniors. If you think it's funny 474 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,720 that people will go hungry, you are a terrible I'm 475 00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:35,799 assuming it's person that got cut off there on the 476 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,279 image there, you are a terrible person, I'm assuming which 477 00:29:40,759 --> 00:29:44,279 I assume Dana was saying that I was saying that 478 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,359 it's funny that people are getting cut off. I do 479 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,559 not think it's funny. It is the libertarian prophecy, though, 480 00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:54,079 When you make people dependent on government, they are the 481 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,160 ones that actually get hurt the most because they then 482 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:04,319 become dependent. That dependency eventually gets shattered when they least 483 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:11,160 expect it, like the beginning of November, three weeks before Thanksgiving. 484 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,519 Speaker 1: See. That's see. 485 00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:17,119 Speaker 2: Government makes all these promises to you, and people then 486 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,240 buy into the promises because they want stuff. They it's easy, 487 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,640 Oh good, let's let me have this free program, let 488 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,440 me have this benefit, let me have this service. And 489 00:30:28,519 --> 00:30:31,160 then you keep voting for people that you know, keep 490 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,720 promising you more and more and more, and the whole 491 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:36,880 time you are becoming more and more dependent on the government. 492 00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,720 And then one day something like this happens, and now 493 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,359 you are collateral damage. 494 00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: They do not care. Here's another example. 495 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:46,759 Speaker 3: This is. 496 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,039 Speaker 2: Let's see here Josh Harder I think is his name. Yes, 497 00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:56,480 he's a California Democrat, and he has asked about, look, 498 00:30:56,519 --> 00:31:01,599 why don't you guys just pass the the CR, the 499 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,480 Continuing resolution passed the clean CR, and then try to 500 00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:07,759 get these other things pasted. 501 00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 3: Why not take that route? 502 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,839 Speaker 2: I think the idea that you would give up all 503 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,880 of your leverage and then hopefully get some sort of 504 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,440 great deal coming down the pike is just a fool's Errand. 505 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,039 Speaker 1: There you go. 506 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: It's about leverage. They're trying to get something. They want 507 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,359 something extra, and they are will And by the way, 508 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,240 this is not a new tactic, right. This is what 509 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,279 Roy Cooper did to teachers in North Carolina multiple times. 510 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:42,880 Multiple times he held teacher pay raises hostage in order 511 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,160 to get Medicaid expansion. He put a higher premium on 512 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:54,279 Medicaid expansion than the teachers pay raises. He did it 513 00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:58,279 multiple times in the budget fights with the Republican legislature. 514 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,680 And you can say that that's okay, because Medicaid expansion 515 00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:05,839 is worth it, whatever, whatever, but it doesn't negate the 516 00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:11,440 very fact that he used residents of North Carolina, his constituents. 517 00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,759 He used them as leverage. He used them as pawns 518 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,039 in order to get something that would benefit him personally. 519 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:21,880 And you could say it would benefit all of the 520 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,559 people that could get on Medicaid, although I would submit 521 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,960 that that's actually not for their benefit, because people actually 522 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:31,359 have worse outcomes on Medicaid than without even having any insurance. 523 00:32:32,319 --> 00:32:37,839 But all that aside, he derived political benefit. And there 524 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,319 isn't any reason why you would do such a thing 525 00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:44,119 unless there was something politically advantageous, which, by the way, 526 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,720 is what he is using to sell himself for the 527 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,680 US Senate race. 528 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: Look at me. 529 00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: I voted to expand medicaid. I got medicaid expansion done, 530 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,079 which of course he did not. It was the Republican 531 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,559 legislature over objections from people like me. But they did 532 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,440 it anyway. And they crafted this formula based on other 533 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:08,279 states where they did like this increased tax on the 534 00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:10,759 hospitals and then did a pass through and whatever, so 535 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:16,119 like that's how they quote paid for it. Well, that's 536 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,960 what's happening now. It's the same thing. You are expendable. 537 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,079 And I'm not laughing at the people who are now 538 00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:24,599 dependent on government. 539 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: It's sad to me. 540 00:33:26,599 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: It is absolutely sad to me, because that's the real 541 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:36,640 scandal here. The number of Americans that are on the 542 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:44,039 SNAP program. That's the scandal. Why is one out of 543 00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:51,440 eight Americans on food stamps? The corporations Elon Musk, orange 544 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:55,200 Man Hitler, like, it's all their fault, everybody's on the 545 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,880 food stamps? Or is this sort of the natural tendency 546 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,960 of all governments it is. I would say that that 547 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,360 is the case. Governments have a natural inclination, as all 548 00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:13,039 organizations do, to expand. As George Washington said, it is 549 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:18,239 a useful servant, but a fearful master. Like fire, and 550 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:24,559 like fire, it will consume everything if not kept in check. 551 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,559 And that's what government is doing. The natural tendency is 552 00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,599 for it to grow to, you know, offer security and 553 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,599 exchange for liberty and the nash the natural tendency of 554 00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:40,199 citizens is to sacrifice liberty for that security. And then 555 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,159 of course you find out you don't have either, you 556 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,079 don't have the food security because your needs are now 557 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:51,800 at the whim of politicians making political judgments about leverage. 558 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. 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