Speaker 1: Live here.
Speaker 2: Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Gimmick.
Your uh, your third gimmick this month, and man, what
an episode to talk about today tonight whenever you're listening
this in the morning, probably for some people. I am
the number one Code Rhodes fanboy, and I am joined
by twelve and one.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a good streak there, David the phantomself.
Speaker 1: How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: There's just one that got in the way, But you know,
makes sense because it was a you know, kind of
a mixed up match happening.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I'm doing good. Like I said, twelve
and one. You know, hat if I knew going into
it that it was guaranteed to be Becky, then I
may have bet on Herd as the countryman. But without
that knowledge, it was hard to go with it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The only one I did not pick was I did
not pick Randies because that one was just too far off.
Who what how could it be? There was too many
variables with that. But out of the matches that I
did pick twelve and one. So I am happy with
these Russellmania predict.
Speaker 2: And I feel like even if you would have been
like if someone be like, hey, David, I know it's
gonna be Joe Henry.
Speaker 1: You would have been like, all right, it's gonna be
Randy going over you know, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would believe anybody said yeah, I would have
picked Randy in the pool. It's like, yeah, I don't
think in any world we're going in a back last
next month, Joe would get that win, but you never know.
And then I'm joined by EOS guys. Wise man, he's
looking for a job, you know, he wants to be
in damage control subs.
Speaker 1: How you doing tonight, sir?
Speaker 5: Good?
Speaker 2: All right, so let's get in this we're gonna do overall.
So the little draft for just talking about me tonight
night too, David, what do you think.
Speaker 1: Overall of night to Offuly night?
Speaker 2: When we talked about last night, people can go in
the feeds and check that out kind of mixed show
where we all agreed that there were some rocky points,
but there were some good strong points as well, some
surprise matchups that it did really well. What did you
think of tonight because obviously that was the whole buzz? Kay,
how's it gonna be?
Speaker 1: And usually night.
Speaker 2: Ones all not always, but I'd say, like a good
eighty percent is always like that's the better night, so
it was set up.
Speaker 1: But what did you think about the night overall?
Speaker 4: I think that is it started with the bang, it
continued with the bang. Most of this was very good
or comparable to last night. They had me all the
way up until everything from Travis Scott's entrance on was
just deflated, like it was an immediately drop off the
mountain at that point.
Speaker 6: But other than that, yeah, it.
Speaker 4: Was a great night everything building up to it. I
am a fan of the Joe Hendry appearance. Yes, as
TENA champion, you would have hoped that he would have
got a little bit more sean, but I'm just happy
to see Joe Hindry on the big stage, so I
give that man his due with that. But that yeah,
it was much better the night one in my opinion,
and just overall better matches Us Bobs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say i'd started like similar feelings as tonight one,
but I definitely put Night two above Night one. But
I think there were also some points, but definitely much less.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know now I think about it.
Speaker 5: It was an as similar to Night one, but I
don't know there were some points there I was like
it's okay, or like yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: For me, it's it was a it's weird because the
night one had some mixed stuff, but then it was
ebbs and flows we talked about ended strong to me
until not just because Joe Henry. I think those first
three because I think it was three matches, right, is
the women's triple threat is a street fight?
Speaker 1: And then what am I missing after that? That was still.
Speaker 3: The four Way?
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, the four Way Yeah, and then up
into Joe Henry something change of those three, I'd have
to look one. We'll get into it. I can make
it argument for that being the best WrestleMania opener. I
agree with everybody. I'm a right heart guy. So it's
one of these things where, yeah, usually it's Bred and Owen.
I'm a big fan of Daniel Brian and Triple H.
But this is like, this is for sure in the
top three. It's hard for me because Brett and Owen
when I have like a that's thirty years old and
I have a lot of connections to that, this is new,
but this is we'll get to specifically about hot opening.
But I'd have to look and see what's just like
the best wrestling of first three matches in a row
because they were just delivering on on fire, many great moments.
And then the Randy Joe Henry thing. We'll get into later,
nothing to do with that, but it's like that's where
a switch kind of happened because we got that and
then I was let like I was let down for
different aspects.
Speaker 1: Of a j and Logan Paul.
Speaker 2: The tag match, I'm mixed on because they got what
they wanted, the big pop in the big moment, but
the match itself was I think kind of like the
new Anything. It felt like just a raw match, you know,
it didn't felt like anything special. And then the main event,
which you know what we'll start off with because usually
we go to the end and go jump around. That's
gonna be the talking point, right, That's what everyone's talking about.
Main event, very odd situation.
Speaker 1: You know. Entrances were fine.
Speaker 2: I liked seeing his entrance just come down to all
black and the walk no run Cody's was weird with the.
Speaker 1: Bikes in the ring, like it just didn't it just
felt like just that ran.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that all night Charlotte. It's just like sometimes It's like,
if you don't have anything, just don't do it. Just
do the regular walk down, you know, just get cool,
a cool jacket, you got the mass that goes up
and everything. But that main event very very odd. And
it's so funny because we were talking about this with
Night one and obviously, like main events have been the
big conversation. Right, we talked about how very rocky Night
one but ended very strong. We talked about, uh, what
was it double or Revolution a couple weeks ago, right,
We're like, oh, that same situation. I think it's weird
because I think the match really delivered. I think Sina
was the best he's looked in quite a while. I
think Sina it's to the point that I don't I
think this was the perfect time to turn him. But
his mannerisms as a heel were so great. He just
he looked like the douchebag you just want to punch.
He looked like the school jock. He looked like the asshole.
Just little stuff of when Cody tied him up in
the ropes and the ref count to fight, He's go
get him off and get him off, and he looked
like so disgusted that Cody was still like holding on
to him, like it was so good, and I thought
the match was back and forth. We'll talk about the
crowd all so, because that one didn't go away, I
thought it was gonna go But then that ending, Man,
that is a I have to And I'm gonna ask
David because obviously, you know he's been watching it kind
of the same amount of time I have. I don't know, like,
what what Okay, we just had that resumating nine donks.
Speaker 1: When do you think of worse endings?
Speaker 2: For me? This is this is at least a top fiver.
I need to sit on it. I always see these
people calling the worst. I'm not gonna go that far
yet because I really have to think about it. But
Travis Scott is not popular enough to warrant him having
this moment. If it was Scott and Rock, that's fine,
I get it. Ties the story. Don't know where the
fuck the Rock is.
Speaker 1: Like, I like the fact they couldn't even fly down
for this.
Speaker 2: I know he even posted he's in Hawaii, but everyone
thought always he's trolling he's actually here, but no, I
guess he was just in Hawaii chilling, and it's just
for everything, Like even if Tras Scott's gonna be there,
have him come through the crowd interfere. The second his
music hit, that thing was It's like within seconds, I
felt the stars in my head dropping and it was
a slow pace that killed everything. Seen as they're smiling,
Cody's dead. For like ten minutes during Trescott's entrancing though,
they were just going back and forth, and then like
the whole He's gonna give him a receipt. He just
hit him with a crossroads. Trash Scott wouldn't get out
of the ring. Coadies like trying to push him, but
I just don't think like for me, Sina's big win
and to break seventeen. I already thought tras Scott being
there for the heel turn was kind of meant. But
I got it with the whole setup with this this
Like I said, I said this a few tens with
this really, And my sister said the same because she
watched a few uh stuff last night. This night we
used to go rest me this a whole time, but
she fell off. But I said, this felt like a
Vincenny and she's like, legitimly. I said that to my friend,
That's what it felt like. It felt like Dave was
here for this. Remember Kevin Faerline screwed John Cena or
no when he beat John Cena. Ken Fairline beat John
Cena one two three, just with one spot like.
Speaker 5: The uh, what is the the Cimers then that you
went to for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it smacked by some guy in my own host.
Speaker 2: But I just think this this didn't need any of
the Travis Scott stuff. I I get ww's all about
the brand and stuff, like even during Cody's entrance they
went to the drum sticks and it's like, man, this
was too much. And this I think it's tough because
all my casual friends that watch.
Speaker 1: It were really let down, especially my sister.
Speaker 2: I feel like the past couple of years have been
trying to get her to watch WrestleMania again and she's
always busic.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: So it's on Netflix, she clicks on it and this
is like the last one. It's like, oh, like that's
what they're doing. Like like this whole ending, I just
thought they they really dropped the ball. I know some
people felt that about See as Heel Turn in general.
I wasn't like that, but with this ending, I think
this was a really really stinky ending, and I don't know,
I think they this was a layup for them of
just even then just do the whole scene of Cheets
do's Trescott later. It just I don't know, But yeah, David,
what about you, because you know you've seen a lot
of WrestleManias. We've been there for the you know, we
talked about rest May nine, resume seventeen, which I think
isn't as bad. It's more bad in retrospect when you
think about what happened, but at the time it's like, oh,
this was a huge deal, awesome turning heel.
Speaker 4: But seventeen match the hill turn in that moment, it
was great. Again, long term, not so much. I would
probably put this in the top three or four of
my worst WrestleManias. There are some that I'm just like
not going to include, Like I'm not going to include
Lawrence Taylor and Bam Bam Bigelow life that was that
that was of that time. But I will say, like,
this is up there with the convoluted ending of WrestleMania
twenty seven when the Rock restarts the match.
Speaker 6: This is up there with.
Speaker 4: Rock Sena two, where you knew where this was going
and it just felt dragged out, or the super overbooked
WrestleMania sixteen also known as WrestleMania two thousand, where they
had the McMahon in every corner match and it was
just it was weird, and yeah, so this is this
is up there with some of the worst ones. It's
not quite WrestleMania nine just yet, but it is in
the top three or four of WrestleMania endings.
Speaker 6: It just it felt deflated.
Speaker 4: You could have even if you wanted the Travis Scott appearance,
you could have had him come out. He did not
have to have a romanesque twenty minute walk. Why we
were constantly cutting between him sauntering to the ring and
John Cena is just laughing like the maniacal heel like
and the entire time, Cody's over here laying down like
Booker t waiting for Triple Ah to pin him, just
just has to sit there.
Speaker 2: I was going crazy because I was convincing myself walk
with me. For a second, I thought they're gonna do
a double turn, and Cody was gonnaign himself with Tras
Scott because I.
Speaker 1: Thought they were gonna beaykay.
Speaker 2: We kind of get a sense of the crowd because
to me, it was more I think it started because
I couldn't hear the entrances. I had family talking and
then they left, but like couldn't hear the entrances, and
then the rest of the match it.
Speaker 1: Felt like it kind of started fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: But it was definitely a rock hog in eighteen situation
where they did turn on Cody. I love Cody, he's
my guy, but like he got rocked Wrestling eighteen where
they did not want him to win, and it was
it felt like the Cody fans like got quieter and quieter.
Speaker 1: As it went on.
Speaker 2: They just kind of like shrugged, like they gave up
and like like because that I felt like the let's
go see I see that sucks was a loud when
it started, and then near the end it was it
was not there, So I thought, oh, maybe they were.
They saw the vision. They're so smart, they're gonna be like, oh,
they're actually Cody's second he he changes mind. He is
getting over the rock and go, you know what, Actually
I'm gonna sell my soul and they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna do the turn heel.
Speaker 2: But now it's like he didn't do the turn and
he just got beat by Trescone John Cena. All the
crowds cheering. It's like all like and they can't account
for the crowd, right, But that's where that's where it
just makes it bad, where the crowd's booing Cody and
then Tras Scott's like getting heat on him and the
crowd's like love it.
Speaker 1: It's like this, doesn't you know?
Speaker 2: And now I know we'll talk long term in the future,
but now I actually don't know if Cody's gonna be
the guy beat seen. I thought he would, but they
might go, ah, maybe we'll give someone else that spot.
I'm not saying I know the internet's gonna be like, oh,
turn Cody heel, but I don't know that yet.
Speaker 1: But we'll see.
Speaker 2: Uh So I suppose where were you on this, uh
the match overall, but then also the ending.
Speaker 5: I'd say I like pretty much the same. I was
liking the match up to, like the whole interference and stuff,
Like I thought it was really cool, like you said,
just Sina doing the moves a different way and kind
of like even though he was just doing that like
slow style, it didn't feel like, I don't know, like
dragged out to me. At least like it felt like
at least deliberate, but not like he's just slower, like
he can't hang anymore.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, it definitely felt like a pacing, like he
felt like a Bowlly in there to me, which I liked,
you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh yeah, I guess the interference stuff, it
was like, yeah, it just took like way too long.
Speaker 3: And then it was just like weird and.
Speaker 5: It was kind of like sort of the same thing
with like the j Gunther thing, Like it was like
everyone I think thought that was gonna be like like, oh,
he's just gonna kick out, and then there's still like
ten minutes left, but it just ended there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well ended like like seven thirty eight, like my time,
like ended twenty twenty two minutes like earlier than the
other one, like last night. It's surprised. That's what I thought, Oh,
is there gonna be an angle? Is there gonna be something?
And no, there wasn't. And it's like I know some
people might not. Actually I think a lot of people care,
like the fact that it's like you got John seen
a whole up this title like tras Scott's right beside
him holding up his fake title and It's just like
it feels like the Rock Brahma boling, but at least
with the Rock, Like if the Rock was here, this
to me would have gone down a lot.
Speaker 1: Easier for me because he's there, could.
Speaker 2: Be an angle there. He was there last year's WRESTLEMANI
but it just feels it feels so odd, and you know,
I'm not like a Dave Meltzer defender or anything, but man,
everyone has to apologize that because remember when he said
Rock's not gonna be there because I'm seeing all the
trees down and Rock was like, no, bullshit, don't believe anything.
Speaker 1: And then everyone for like two weeks.
Speaker 2: Grilled Meltzer of like you know, no, and don't get
it wrong, Meltzer was around a lot of shit and
I'm not saying his takes, but just like remember like
people did like a public humiliation and Meltzer like he's
fucking washed everything like that, and it's like Rock really
just wasn't planned. I wish we could go back, and
I really wish then the chamber Heelton had nothing.
Speaker 1: New a got or the Rock. It was just Sina.
Speaker 2: Just Cody comes congratulations after the match, they shake hands,
seen a little blows and beats him up and you
get the same effect as they never even talked about
rock they like they or at least Scena didn't. They
didn't talk about Scott until the night. It feels very odd,
you know, it doesn't make much sense. I just I
don't understand it. And I'm excited to watch the presser
where Triple H tells me this is the best wrestling
of all.
Speaker 1: Time and Traus Scott what a professional, you know, no
one's like him.
Speaker 2: It's just like yeah, but it's like I felt like
with this and the Logan Paul thing, instead of them
getting the event over, they're getting themselves over, which is
not what you want for non full time employees in
my opinion. And it was just was weird because I
agree that's bestary. I really liked the beginning. I love
that it started with Cody out wrestling him and then
Sina was trying to like do old school scene where
he wrestled back and then he just gave up. And
there's this great sequence where he I think he closed
on see Cody and then he just kept kicking him.
He kicked him for like twenty seconds, and that's where
it was good, where it was like, Oh, he's just
irustrate and he's given up wrestling, and it was almost
like that you can't wrestle.
Speaker 1: So he's like, yeah, I can't wrestle. I'm giving up.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna beat up Sea you Cody, And I
think that all worked and like I guess I've said,
I think it was all deliberate.
Speaker 1: It was the pace. It reminded me.
Speaker 2: I said that it scored very much a Wrestling twenty
two a Triple H and John Cena, where that was
a slower match and Triple H was doing the same
thing and the same thing happened where they turned on
scene and went for Triple H. So it's kind of
funny we're, you know, almost twenty years later.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I definitely agree with you on the point
that Travis Scott everything with that just felt like that
was Travis Scott getting Travis Scott over. That was him
promoting himself, his partnership with ww for clothing and stuff
like that. This had nothing to do with the match.
It was a waste of probably eight minutes of the
match that just drug on and.
Speaker 2: You would think like this is the same company when
they did the Dom Live Reaturn, they waited for Ria
to get her hands on Dom right and the last
live match they had her do the riptide after everything
at that, So it's like, what's the what's the payoff
with Scott because Cody Roads hit the crossroads on I
do not which I worry because I remember those reports
of tras Scott's training to wrestle. If the payoff is
but this is the point with this ending, I would
not even be surprised by that. And I do think
they they need to watch it because again to it
because I think right now they think they're untouchable to
an extent.
Speaker 1: They are, but we've seen w fall many times. Again.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're going on business or anything like that,
but I'm saying we've seen many times where they make
a few bad decisions in a row and people start
to check out. And I think, a WrestleMania don't want
to do that. And they did that here. Because whatever
people think about the last three WrestleManias, like, well, I
guess thirty nine wasn't too far away.
Speaker 1: I guess because after Roam beat Cody.
Speaker 2: I remember there was a lot of unease with the
fan base there because everyone's like, oh, Cody fumble, they
shooting him back to aw maybe so we'll see, But
at least for that to me was.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to see in a year or
in November, because I thought that was the wrong decision.
Then at least though to me that was a good match.
I guess had that it is comparable. I'm just thinking
at least like it was solo, but that had the
same thing where I thought they should have gave Cody
the belt and then they did the same solo finish
and thought it was really bad, but they built that
back up. I just don't know if they can build
themselves back up here.
Speaker 6: I just didn't just going to cart rebound.
Speaker 5: I'm seeing people just in general, like I'm seeing people
like the other worst main events, Like would you say
this one even with the ending inclusion, I'll read you
off something's better or not? Okay, triple H versus Randy
or in so then why he couldn't get just like
if he cheated he got there or not cheated, Like yeah.
Speaker 2: I think there's there's two categories of a lackluster randing
and a bad ending. I'd put them in the lack
less ending because the.
Speaker 6: One was just boring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just boring, but like character wise, it
made sense of like Randy like assaulted his wife, Triple
Ah should win that match, right, Like it made sense, so.
Speaker 1: I'd put that in. I put this over that one,
like for being Bad's okay, so let's go on, Kay.
Speaker 3: Roman versus Brock Mania thirty four.
Speaker 1: Oh that was pretty bad.
Speaker 2: They're pretty equal because I remember that was like the
time Romans supposed to finally beat Brock and then Brock
just beat him again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I give, I give that.
Speaker 6: Was the U six F five one.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and Cody kicked out of four AA's I
give the Travis Scott won the edge. But that one
is pretty close because that was a bad match, lackluster ending.
Everyone was over Brock at that point because he was
mega part timer. So that's like a point five below.
That one's close, Okay, the.
Speaker 5: One you already mentioned before. But Sena versus Miss.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough because that I think it's saved
because the next nine raw they announced Rock and Sena,
so it saved a little bit. I agreed, David, it
was not it was not great and if you would
have put Punk's spot like in Missus spot, could have
been better.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this was This was worse because at least,
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4: At least they still had the virtual GM at that
point they restarted.
Speaker 5: That happens, it's Rock read to the laptop and he
says like he's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Restart the match.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he just gets seen in an AA and then
miss pinzo. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think that one's not as bad as this one, though,
I think again because the truck can cussed. Yeah, MS
had no idea what happened in that match, So okay, what's.
Speaker 3: Versus Undertaker?
Speaker 1: That one's tough. I was there live for that.
Speaker 4: It was deflating, but it wasn't a bad match. It
was just a deflating ending, like you didn't think that
Undertaker was catching a second loss.
Speaker 1: And you could also see Undertaker slowing down.
Speaker 2: The thing that made that better, which again this is
a retrospect thing was at the time, even there being live,
we all thought, oh, this is last. This is the
match where he like left his had and everything in
the ring. He for the first time, win the crowd
and kiss Michelle McCool. So we're like, oh, the match
wasn't great, but we're seeing a legend go so at
least it was kind of heartwarming.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll put the Scott one still above that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then that's also redeemed by the next night,
Roman coming out, not saying the word, just doing the
this is my yard now, drop Mike and walk.
Speaker 1: Not the start of the heel turn.
Speaker 7: I don't know, but you know, so okay, let's see
another one Bobby Roman, Bobby Rude produced Gunther and Jay
and John c and Cody.
Speaker 1: Not a good not a good time, not a good
time for the and your Indians.
Speaker 5: My guy, I have another one here, Roman versus Triple H.
Speaker 2: No, that that was just it was. It sucks because
those ones are in that era of just trying to
make Roman the guy. But it's just like a fine
three star match that Roman went over.
Speaker 1: It's it wasn't good.
Speaker 2: It was that that's in the lackluster category for me,
wasn't awful, but that in the lackluster and these are
all deserving, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: On that top ten list, this is definitely it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the other ones are on here.
Speaker 5: I don't know, like I don't hear people talk about
them as much as like worse thaning events, so I
can just read them off, I guess because.
Speaker 3: I don't really know that much about them.
Speaker 5: Sure, Yeah, like like Triple H versus Jericho, No.
Speaker 1: That I would never put that anywhere near this.
Speaker 4: It wasn't bad, it's just should not. I think that
was one of the ones that went on last when
it shouldn't have gone on last.
Speaker 1: It was Rock and Hogan. That was Rocking Hogan. Yeah,
so yeah, Blackluster, Yeah, what else?
Speaker 3: And then another one I have is yeah on the list.
Speaker 5: The other ones are are the Universus Rock two and
Rock versus Roman, the Unification match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had some fun.
Speaker 2: The fact that we got three three Brock and Roman
matches just that's a Vince begann crime right there, you know,
and take that back because I know he's actually done
some crist That's a booking crime right there.
Speaker 1: That was like the fact that he was so into
that trilogy. But no, like it. I'll wait and sit
on it. But this might be.
Speaker 2: I think it's just cause it was the seventeen and
it was the scene of Heilter and it was two
massive things and have such that deflating ending.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's like, and I don't get me wrong, I think
the Scena Heiltern still is gonna be hate fun. I
think we're gonna get to him and Randy. We're hit
to him and Punk. There's good stuff. It just sucks
for such a big moment. And even if this happened
at like Backlash or whatever, that'd be fine. But to
be Mania nighte two, That's that's where it stings. It
is like the ending of the biggest show of the year,
and we talked about it. You want to end strong
and instead the exact opposite. I have faith that t
Moore they'll kill it with a good raw after. But
that's you don't want to do that. You want to
just have, like, hey, Wrestling, it was.
Speaker 3: Great to save this company.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Part of Sena's new organization, you know, like everyone thought
Roll was gonna be all these memes of like I
never understan kept seeing people photoshop Rock Sena Hayman and ROWLMS.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 5: Rock Sena Hayman, Becky and.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I wouldn't mind that. I don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: If they turn Becky and steff seel that'd be great,
but like they don't need Rock and please like, yeah,
keep them away, Like let Paul and Seth be the
raw bad guys.
Speaker 1: He's to be the SmackDown bad guys.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just yeah, big big.
Speaker 1: Goose egg here.
Speaker 2: And like I said, I'm interested to see what people think,
interested to hear Cody's thoughts. He's already like I mean,
like in the long term, he's fine.
Speaker 1: But and also like, so, what do you guys think?
This is the other thing.
Speaker 2: I'll start with you, David, what do you think happens
going forward with Cody as far as this response? Do
you think this is the one off? Or hey, people
just wanted to see Sina win the title because like
Rock got that right.
Speaker 1: But then Rock wasn't hated. After Rock got hated because
he was.
Speaker 2: A part time or that he would didn't like After that,
Rock was getting cheered. And then when he left when
it was Brock and him at SummerSlam and the word
was he was leaving again, that's when people really turn.
When he was like, oh, I'm not you know, it's
just my home, I'm not leaving and stuff, and they left,
he still got he was still loved. Do you think
this is a one off or do you think this
is the time of term where other people are like, Yeah, Like,
I don't know if I like Cody Rhoades anymore because
that happen it right, there was the time to turn
and whatnot.
Speaker 4: I don't think this will be like when the Rock
won the championship. Rock winning had a couple of bad
things going against it. You took it off of CM
Punk with for a lot of people. Again, you're a
part time where you're coming in, you're taking the belt
off of seeing Punk. You're costing seeing Punk his chance
at main eventing. Everyone knew that that was a big deal.
Even before he left, people knew that was a big deal.
It there and then for him to be yeah on
part time, you just knew he was a transitional champion.
He brings in the new belt again, something that we
wanted from Punk. It was just like all this stuff
that was opposite of what we wanted. It's just you
could tell corporate one this guy to do it, yeah
instead of Punk. I think with this one, it's still
gonna be fifty to fifty with this fan base, You're
still going to have some people who are cheering. I
think you're gonna have some people, especially like around not
just my age range, but just people who have been
in it so long who are now at a point
where they chan't Scena sucks because it's fun, but they
steal respect Scena for everything he's done, seeing Sina break
the record and get the seventeen Like in my generation,
I'm just like, Okay, guy put in his time, He's
earned it.
Speaker 6: I kudos.
Speaker 2: They want to be there for history, right, and that
that's what it's gonna be. Is like, was this people
cheering for history or was it for Cody?
Speaker 1: And I don't And I think the.
Speaker 2: Good thing is I I think if Cody wins back,
it won't be for a while, and I think it
will be the point where people will be like, Okay,
Sinic is run, and now we're happy to see him go.
Speaker 1: I guess it would.
Speaker 3: Feel like when Cody.
Speaker 5: I feel like Cody's gonna have like a feud before
going back to Black like like yeah, Like I think
I think he's gonna probably take off for like a month,
and when he comes back, I feel like there will
be some villain that'll like take him out and he
asks the feud with that person. Maybe that's probably like
his Summer Slam match will be against someone not Seena
like would.
Speaker 1: Be with him a Brock.
Speaker 2: Remember after Roman beat him at thirty nine, they had
him from Brock from like backlash of Summer Slam. That
was his story. And maybe they have multiple opponents.
Speaker 1: But I agree that.
Speaker 2: Bronson reed now Tye Black rusive miz, you know, throw
him in there like that. You have to keep them
separated so people almost in the sense that people might
come around be like, actually, I actually liked it better
when Cody was champed, but I'd like him to win
it back.
Speaker 1: So I do think you can't return that.
Speaker 2: But it's gonna be interesting because I think they're in
a pickle if that'll be the telling when they do
scene in Cody two, because I still think that's the route.
I think seeing Cody two is still their idea. Cody's
gonna get his win back. If Cody still gets bowed there,
that's when they're in a really pickle, and that's when
it's like, Okay, now, there might have to be some
conversation or maybe they just rock the John Cena reaction thing, right.
Speaker 1: They did that with Roman for years.
Speaker 2: Where maybe Cody for the next three years is just
gonna get the half and half.
Speaker 1: But this is the first time it's really happened, so
I don't know. We'll we'll see. It's very very interesting, uh,
to see what happens.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to earn back his head shot. This
isn't going to be a he's going to get a
title shot right. As much as I would love for
to be at Backlash because that's right down the road
in Saint Louis and things like that, so you know,
I would not mind hopping over for that, I just
I don't think he's going to get that opportunity there.
I do think that he is going to probably enter
into a feud pretty quickly. He may take this next
week off and maybe two weeks back for that. He's
going to enter into a feud with someone.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 4: Actually Malachi is supposed to debut this this Friday, so.
Speaker 1: This this meme come true, I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he could get his head kicked off by Malachaida
to start off this Friday. He could come out to
say the whole what do you guys want to talk
about and immediately get his head kicked off I'm here
for that.
Speaker 2: So in my in my opinion, I don't know if
it's the right opinion. It's just a guys, I would
not actually have seen or Cody do any promos and
just have him gone because my word, he cuts.
Speaker 5: It from like he's not advertised for like a full month,
Like I don't know, I think it's gonna disappear because
and you see just like the very start of like
the post show with him walking away.
Speaker 1: It was with his family, right and everything.
Speaker 5: It was him and Brandy and they just walked to
the to the bus and just like yeah.
Speaker 1: Doing the same thing, Punky. They're gonna talk later.
Speaker 2: But because to me, the worry is what if you
put him in front of a crowd where he cuts
the heartfelt promo and they boo him or it's like
all about Sina, right, So that's why I think maybe
they should just have him go away and then when
it's like you get that graph that Cody Roads returns,
people are excited to see him, and then they can
play up the whole like where's John Cena been.
Speaker 1: He's a part time where he's not around.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna leave you, Like I actually think they
should not have Cody do any promo whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I think it could be risky.
Speaker 2: Now, I trust Cody because that we didn't talk about
on Friday, and that's what that's what's tough for Cody,
right because on Friday he was getting booty. He turned
them all around. He don't get that in a match, right,
you don't get to talk. So Cody, I trust him
that he can cut that prom We saw then, Awy,
they hated Cody and they're just happy John c is
back in that last promo that Cody cutt they're booing
them and they were tired of Code Roads and he
got them cheer at the end. I trust them. I
just think it's kind of like there's some risk to it.
So I know we'll see. We'll see if mal chive
Black and Cody I'm backlash, but yeah, I imagine we're
going that way, but I'm sure might come up again
by anything specifically Johnson and uh uh Cody Rhoades here.
Speaker 4: Like I said, just it fell it fell flat. Everything
from the Travis Scott intro to the end just fell flat.
So I they they there were so many different avenues
they could have still had the same result, but just
not falling as flat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just different booking, but well, at least get some
positive here and go to the start of the show
and go to the women's triple threat.
Speaker 1: I kind of said my many thoughts.
Speaker 2: I'll just say it again that, yeah, that triple threat
absolutely delivered. Man, what a week of triple threats. But
I do think this is the best one out of
those fours.
Speaker 5: People are complaining about too many multiman matches, but all
the Multiman matches end up being the best, like on
all the shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the thing where you just kind of
have to lock when it happens. But yeah, fantastic from
all them. Again, I was super surprised because you know,
sometimes you go back and forth with the chances real EO.
Speaker 1: I have to go back with seeing us.
Speaker 3: But I think people are channing for Io the entire time.
Speaker 1: They were. But when Ria's music hit, that was.
Speaker 6: She got the loudest pop. She definitely got the loudest pop.
Speaker 1: That was crazy.
Speaker 2: And then to me that shows because I ben Vegaz
there's tons of mainstream people there and that's where it's like,
oh man.
Speaker 5: I think I was thinking because I know in Vegas
a lot of the time, like there's a lot of
free tickets for like the high rollers and stuff like
they were gonna talking about then the WrestleMania nine documentary,
and I know it's still true now. So I was wondering,
like I wonder how much of this the people on
the stage or like stuff like that would like affect
the crowd. But I think, like you said, yeah, I
think for a lot of the like you said, the peat.
Speaker 2: Twice a year, Yeah, they and that like result like
last week when she posted the under her photo.
Speaker 1: She's always trying.
Speaker 2: Like there's people I always use her example, Hansy, who
is a patron. She's on Afternione never watched anything wrestling,
but she knew who Ria Ripley is without me having
to tell her. You know, like that thing where I
was taken aback by the pop I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: But no, they all delivered fantastic spaws. They pretty much
just locked.
Speaker 2: In at speed one hundred and the three times they
got knocked down, they just kept going and going.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and uh, I'm happy I.
Speaker 2: Called that I was gonna pin Bianca because I said,
just like if she's gonna lose, just have her eat
the pan don't do this.
Speaker 1: Like, well she's still never been pitman.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, you lost the battle oil, you lost
a triple threat, you got no streak, Like that's a
fake streak, and she wants she got pinned in. Like
I said, my reasoning was, now EO in the last
month has pinned Rhea and she's pinned Bianca. So they
both shift zero claim and then they should go off
and like what you've talked about as a fight with
each other. Now Io can fight whoever. But yeah, definitely
for me, that's a five.
Speaker 5: I'll just say I'm talking about pops and something that'll
come up play, but I'll say that the two loudest
pops I've ever heard in person on a wrestling show.
One is Ria Ripley and the second one is Joe Hendry.
Speaker 3: We'll get to that later. But yeah, I love this match.
Speaker 5: This was This is like a five star match rain.
It was like exactly what I wanted, just absolutely delivered.
They all had great chemistry, like in like like they've
had good chemistry like one on one and especially EO
and Bianca I have had really good chemistry, but all
three of them together just made it even better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, definitely agree this This is probably start
to finish match the night for me, match of the
weekend for me. I will go as far as to
say that they put on a spectacular and that ending
was just great.
Speaker 6: Everything with EO.
Speaker 4: I'm glad she got to because everyone knows what Bianca
can do. Everyone knows who Ria is and what she
can do. So for EO to get this kind of
showing on this grand stage, especially after taking the lost
last year. Last year was you know, giving Becky or
not Becky giving Bailey her moment, But this time was
definitely her standout moment and she shined. She held her
own and she shined, and I thought it was just
an incredible match.
Speaker 2: Yeah No, I almost thought I was gonna get my
dangerous spot of the KOD and EO Batmon salted on her.
Speaker 1: They did the ending that we caught talked about but
for a secondary close like oh my god, they're gonna do.
Speaker 5: But they didn't do the Poinson and Ron either. I
was expecting they teased it though, or like she went
for it and Red caught it.
Speaker 1: But oh so many crazy spots like there was that one.
Speaker 5: Where Io like she did a hurtk and run on
the outside and Bianca caught her and her head was
like one centimeter away from like just landing on the floor,
and Bianca just caught her like midair, and that's what
they threw on the BCAD.
Speaker 3: But yeah, lots of the great spots.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I when when they started setting up for that,
I thought it was gonna be where she's in the
middle of a kod and then the moon saw all my.
Speaker 2: Dream spot's coming, but it didn't happen. But no, that
spot you mentioned was good. That spot they've done it before,
but this one looked the best. Where EO went for
the moon salt and Rio gar with the two feet
and man, that looked dangerous.
Speaker 1: And one thing I appreciated.
Speaker 2: There's multiple times where they just took one opponent and
threw them into the other. It just felt like they
were very much like it felt like a sudden death
type of like it did sudden dep I man, it
felt like it was like an Iron Man match where
oh you only got ten minutes left, you got to
get the win. But yeah, they were just throwing each
other at each other, using like one another's weapons.
Speaker 1: And I really liked that touch.
Speaker 2: And man, yeah, that was it was something special and
uh yeah and Bianca for me, I think had the.
Speaker 1: Maybe the best ring gear.
Speaker 2: Like Ria looked cool at the Batman who laughs, but
that fucking jacket robe that was all roses and then
in the match, like all roses.
Speaker 1: Are coming off. But that was fantastic gear and some
cool stuff there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was hot. That was right away, way
better than what we got the night before. So yeah,
EO's champion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, both women's titles rotine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, both retained. I'm wondering who EO's getting.
Speaker 3: Both uh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder who he was gonna get next. Like I said,
I think they should Keepri and Biance away from her.
I'm not sure if there's gonna be something they call
up because like you can't, Bailey's gonna be busy with it.
We'll get there, Becky and Lyra, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like she's the title now. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: Leo has GIRs live. She beat her at Saturday's main
event and she won by d DQ.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, so it's almost like.
Speaker 3: I feel like that could just be a backlash match
or something.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's like the gunther j thing where they can
play like Leo's actually never beat Live Morgan in a
one on one such.
Speaker 1: So yeah, live makes sense. Live was Live Lives over,
you know.
Speaker 5: So after that, once you have draft, like, I feel
like maybe some of the women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love they only touched upon a little
bit the next few days, but I'm not saying for
her to win, but like, I would actually like Io
and Charlotte to uh link up at some point too,
because they Io's the one that beat Charlotte for the
NXT Championship, so I would like them to play that back.
Speaker 1: It was in a triple threat with Rhea.
Speaker 3: So are you have Oscar comeback as well?
Speaker 2: And like, yeah, oh yeah, I'm waiting for the damage
control turn. And like I said, I don't know when
it's gonna happen, but I do want them to revisit.
Speaker 1: EO and Bailey as well.
Speaker 2: I thought in this term they should get Bailey to
be a heel, but I don't know if that's happening
anytime soon, So we'll see. But yeah, lots of people
for EO as they just gotta get to May and
then the drafts there and then a bunch of switch ups.
So yeah, anything else in the Woman's triple threat.
Speaker 3: I'll say yeah.
Speaker 5: I saw that some posts that EO's whole family was
was there, nice, but that her sister was in full
Rea Ripley merch.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's funny.
Speaker 2: And then after that we got the Sin City Street
fight with Drew McIntyre and Damian Priest. I think kind
of like we all said, it was gonna over deliver
it to me, this did. I talked about I want
the vibes of like Taker Triple h seventeen. I was
saying it got to those heights, but it was that
Drew fantastic. Another tweet during WrestleMania, my goodness, I.
Speaker 1: Love I love Drew.
Speaker 2: I hope that he has a good year next year,
has more HIO profile stuff. But this was a very
fun match, and I think this is something they should
have swapped and probably had a night one just to
help with some pacing. But I think Drew and Damien
really really delivered here. At one point I was worried
because Drew had like eighty percent of the offense. I
was like, oh man, Jamien's gonna win this because like
Drew like for a while, Damien just got he kept beating.
He looked cast for the first time. He's always walking
around and moved like. I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: But uh, Drew with the good win in a really
fun match.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I did worry that.
Speaker 4: When Drew got the sponsored entrance and then with the
amount of offense that he came in, I was like, Oh,
he's he's doing the job. They're they're giving him all
the corporate parks, but he's doing the job. So I
was happy to see Drew win. I think out of
the two of them, Drew needed it more, just because
I think Damien can bounce back from this still be
who he is. If you have Drew take too many losses,
especially on WrestleMania, especially on big stages like that, then
it hurts who he is as this warrior, as his
psychopath than it does for a Damien. So I'm glad
that he got the win. And again the tweet in
the middle of the match, it's just it's hilarious and
the fact that if you look at it right now,
his pin tweet, his tweet from last year is his
pin tweets, so right underneath it, it was still having
fun at work, so.
Speaker 6: It's just I'm so happy for him. Great match.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I also really enjoyed this match. It was what
it needed to be and what I wanted it to be.
And yeah, they just Drew and Damien like they've had
other good matches before, mostly this with the stipulation it
was gonna hit hard like they used I felt like
it was it was a street pipe, but they didn't
really use weapons, which I liked. Like it was a
lot of the steel steps and a lot of the
the chairs, but not really as much as just like hitting.
Just like there's just like five minutes of them just
hitting each other with chairs. I feel like it was
at all like placing the chairs in the corners or
doing stuff with the steps and the tables, which I
thought was cool, focused more on like the in ring stuff,
and yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 3: I like the entrances.
Speaker 5: Drew's dum entrance was pretty cool, and the Damian priest
Slayer one was cool as well, And.
Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I thought it was I thought it was
a good time. That old school spot.
Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting it, Like for some reason, I've forgotten
the tables were out there, so when you just pushed
them all.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is crazy, but yeah, I really
enjoyed it. And Test, I think you're muted.
Speaker 1: I was thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's some good spots in there, and yeah,
I'm excited to see what happens.
Speaker 1: Drew think they should. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm of two minds. I've always won the power trip
and Seth's the heel, so I would love them to
link up.
Speaker 5: And I'll say, if you, if you had to put
the title on Seth or Drew, who would you put
on if you had to? If you if they tell
you backlash the guy's being j for the title, who
would you pick?
Speaker 1: Well one and dend and might say tomorrow, but yes.
Speaker 2: Backlash, backlash, I would just say Seth just because it's
kind of like the scene of thing.
Speaker 1: You do this big peel turn. You gotta go forward,
you gotta you gotta capitalize on the moment.
Speaker 2: And I think there's actually potential for Drew to turn
babyface soon, you know, Like I don't know how they
get there, but like Drew's just so likable, and I
think this thing where he beat Daan priests he can
never link.
Speaker 1: Up with Roman and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, because he was always telling
Steth like, oh, maybe you should do some bad ship,
and Steph was always like, I don't know, but yeah,
I would still pick Uh. I'd pick Seth. And then
because I also think the other reason I want Drew
to b baby face, even if it's not Seth, I
really want Drew and Sena.
Speaker 1: I think there's some good money there.
Speaker 2: So even if you hat Drew to be a tweeter,
that's where I'd get Seth on the Jay Usso route
and then Drew on the scene a route.
Speaker 1: So at some point, you.
Speaker 3: Know, because Drew is very much getting cheered in yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: Stuff like those tweets don't help, like it's a good thing,
but like people just my time is blown, like oh
this is so good.
Speaker 5: If you have a good if you have a good song,
chance you're gonna you're gonna get over like the oh
Drew mcinti and people are singing it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think Seth being the next person to when that
title makes more sense, especially if he's teamed with Paul Hayman.
You can have again the wise man leading someone else
to a championship.
Speaker 6: You can roll with that.
Speaker 4: And then I think this heel version of Seth would
just be more fun and more believable as a long
term chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then next week got the fatal four way with
a brown Breaker, Domic Mysterial Penta and Finn Bala, the
Spotfest spot Fast lost some masks as well and everything,
and then no, no dog masks, No maybe next time.
Lots of great spots here. They gave bron Breaker kind
of multiple you know, I call him the moment maker
brown Breaker, that double German.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was, it was he.
Speaker 5: Was it was he he was holding Penta and then
Penta had been in like a dragon, you like, yeah.
Speaker 1: And it was because the thing that was impressed me
is he just dead lift him. There's no momentum. It
was just Bron literally having to.
Speaker 5: Like yeah, it was like you could tell it was
slower because he's just like legit lifted both though.
Speaker 2: It was to the point where I know he should
be fine. It was like, man, I hope his back
is okay, because like the way that he lift, the
way it's like you're just using nothing but your back.
But that was impressive. And then I love this continual
thing of Carlito just getting killed by bron Breaker, especially
when Carlitle realizing it.
Speaker 1: Like looked over and Braun' just coming.
Speaker 2: We got the table broken very early to night, but
I think it looked good the game, good moments. And
my last point for Braun too is when he got
in the ring to go spear Penta, he looked like
really desperate to win the match. He looked like he
thought it was gonna be easy. It wasn't like, oh
look there's like some character development of this badass. It's
like just please, like get this over with, like I
want to win, and what if you stay down?
Speaker 6: Somebody stay down?
Speaker 2: But great finish, Like I said to you guys in
the discrirement. Only issue is that it was literally the
same finish as EO off. Someone's in a pin and
hits a high fly move and then they get the pin.
So I wish they would, you know, kind of spaces
out different nights or whatnot, but you know, result is
what we all thought. Dom getting that belt. The only
thing that surprised me was, you know, Cody had a
rough the audience. If their plan was to do Hey.
Speaker 5: Three of him at the post show, he was out
there with the belt getting like mega babyface.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's crazy.
Speaker 5: And he ran back to the I think they told
I think he ran up to the stage like he
was trying to do like he stole the win, and
I think someone in production told him like, get back
to go, because it was only after that that they
put the like new Intercontinental champ So I think like
he was playing to do like he'll steal the wind
like pist little century type win, and they're like, oh,
get back to the ring.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing, And it was a perfect one
because he.
Speaker 5: Ran by he runs by Finn and it's like like
like what and yeah, just getting cheered by everybody.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: That's how that's what happened to the rock in the nineties.
If you're good enough to heel, eventually the crowd just
goes with you.
Speaker 1: And I was not saying that was impossible. I just
did not think they'd be for.
Speaker 3: At least like a year or more.
Speaker 5: Like people like the booming predominic is the cheers, like
you're cheering in just like a different language pretty much.
So I think once they want to turn that into
actual cheers, it's like you can already see it. It's
it was there the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's gonna make cureous story to have, Like
tell us how like he turned on Ria, who's still
pop there you've lived, who's like a heel, got like
all judgment day.
Speaker 1: So yeah I got the.
Speaker 5: Reunion.
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, but yeah I was surprised, not that he
was getting cheered, but just how.
Speaker 1: Much he was getting cheered.
Speaker 2: But no, this is just a very fun match overall,
perfect what it needed to be, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, spot best fun other than Finn's weird slender Man's
style entrance, everything else about it.
Speaker 2: Someone's gonna talk like.
Speaker 1: Someone's gonna set them aside, be like this isn't cool.
Speaker 2: Every time you put on these masks on, your ore
goes down and you're already in like bottom ten right now,
Like and I don't know what they do because I thought, oh,
the answer is if they turn on them and you
get demon anytime he puts in the makeup or it's like.
Speaker 5: Now you gotta have dom going over a demon demon field.
Speaker 1: God, oh god, hey it could happen. But yeah, someone
needs to talk to Finn about this gear and entrance.
Speaker 5: It's just I feel like, also, it's like what we're
thinking is like, oh, Dom's gonna Pinfin and that's how
we get like the fin face turn. But now it's
like Dom Pinfin and now it's the Dom face turn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like a double turn, but not when
they plan so kind of crazy.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought this match was a lot of fun,
Like all all four guys who are in it just
just brought it and pens to you know, WrestleMania debut.
Speaker 3: I was wondering how they were gonna.
Speaker 5: Do his his spin wheel pyro, so like they could
just put three of them on top of the big
building at the top. There were at three spinning there,
and yeah, it was it was a good showing. Like
said the Carlito spot, I hope that that continues, and yeah,
it was a really fun match.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you shared the discord as somebody
posting like the vision for summer slant of like heel
set with the title bron Breaker, Like that is to
me absolutely the agenda that is like bron.
Speaker 1: Breaker is ready to go.
Speaker 2: Sure, giving him beat up Carl Dole a couple more times,
but I don't even think you have them with Dom.
You have something happened where he goes on a different trajectory,
get mad there. Even if he wins money in the
bank and he I love him to win money in
the bank and be one of the guys of like
I'm not like stealing, like I'm giving you the yeah,
and I'm gonna fucking beach you for like I would
love that, and.
Speaker 5: I would you know what you're getting before then what
you're getting Goldberg versus Braun.
Speaker 3: At the showy show.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's.
Speaker 5: How you know, that's how you build to the the
Maybe you have him like announced before then like say
he wins money in the bank, he announces like I'm
coming for you, seth and then he just destroys Goldberg
in this in this perfect retirement. It works for me
that that's great, But I feel like like I'm walking
in right now, like bron Goldberg is happening at this
at the Shouting Show.
Speaker 6: I think you're okay with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay. Let him destroy off. Yeah, let's spear off.
And then they shake hand.
Speaker 5: He'll be yeah for three minutes. The he'll raise his hand,
he'll get his piro you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like the listen, Bill Goldberg did have a
different aura I know some people are gonna hate me
saying this, but like Braun Breaker is the evolution and
way better, better everything that Goldberg couldn't be, you know,
like he he is what he's what you.
Speaker 1: Would wish Goldberg could be. Don't be wrong Goldberg.
Speaker 2: He has he fucking swallows the pyne, spits it out.
He has a look you could cuss him suffering now
in the door, don't get me wrong, But like Bron,
Breaker can carry you. And I don't even know if
Bron would win that match with Seth, but like I
do think that is and I.
Speaker 1: Think that'll be a good pairing.
Speaker 2: That's what I want, Summer Siming to be the wrong
Brons Goldberg.
Speaker 3: That would be a moment maker match.
Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, spearing Goldberg just getting him like he'll give,
like Goldberg will take a CD spear like I'm sure
it won't affect him.
Speaker 2: And you know what, maink Carlo the special guest referee
and gets speared by them both accidentally in the match.
That's my other pitches. He just keeps accidentally eating spears throughout.
Speaker 1: The whole thing.
Speaker 2: But yeah, uh after this, so then we had this
is when we got the Joe Henry, Randy oron thing right?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's what it was only six
match cards, so we got this. I'm of two, I'm
of a couple of minds. But at the end of
the day, I think they did the They did the
right thing. You played it the crowd, you get the moment.
I think this went way better than it just being solo.
And if you're not we talked about this like if
it can't be rusive and black because you don't want
them lose, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Go for a fun pop with Joe Henry.
Speaker 2: I do think I got a good giggle because I
feel like David, you jings it when you're like, oh,
Tony Kahn, this is how you use the cross promotion
and when you know Randy beat him. I can't know
what the match time was, I'll get that, but matchtup
very quickly and then they did the whole stone cold like, oh,
let's shake hands, and then they made him just stun Andry.
Don't get wrong with that's a moment. Great for Hendry.
I have nothing against Henry. I've only seen him wrestle twice,
and I think he's like like he's like he.
Speaker 1: Is what he is.
Speaker 2: He's he's a character wrestler. But like, good for him,
nothing against him. I get that spot. You got to
wrestle rand you want to wrestle Mania, like your song
is going to at this point.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: I just wish, like I wish there was somebody they
could have found to give Randy a little bit more of.
Speaker 1: A of a match. It was a fun moment.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know's that's why I wish like
the Battle Royal was still in WrestleMania, and that's where
it's like, oh, Joe Henry would be like a surprise entrance,
you know, Like I this was all right, but just
especially when they do this whole video of like it's
Randy's it was three minutes and ten seconds. Holy fuck,
Like when they did this whole thing about Randy's twentieth WrestleMania,
this is just gonna be for It's gonna be forgotten
once Joe Hendry isn't like as pop I feel, so,
I don't know, Maybe we'll see in a couple of years.
But they did the right thing. They did a moment,
but in the long run, it was a little lackluster
for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the reason I said the whole uh Tony kainn,
this is how you do the cross promotion is because
with AW it was a lot of they sent their
people to TNA to win. Only people that they really
got back were Gallows and Anderson, who were in a
stable with their people anyway. So there was no benefit
whatsoever for TNA in this whole association.
Speaker 6: I mean, think the.
Speaker 1: Person on the screen, that's the benefit.
Speaker 4: That wins their belt and then Kenny Omega loses it
to a different ae W guys.
Speaker 1: Used to be TA. But yeah, no, I agree, like
it was stupid, It was dumb. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: At least with WW they are promoting them as their champion.
When they had Jordan Grace come in, they promoted her
as a champion. When they had Mickey James a couple
of years ago, they should have set you know, knockout
women's champion, Like they're acknowledging that these people are champions
in their own right. Everything with the NXT, they yes,
it is very one sided in the win column, but
they at least give reverence to these people.
Speaker 6: Where you had to back and forth with the.
Speaker 5: Actually TNA has won most of them. I saw someone
who was Kevin count. I think percentage TNA has won
more because a lot of them just happened on on impact,
like some random NXT guy or girl will just live
to someone. So I think that's kind of like I
think in the big matches you would think like, oh,
like the I think eating them, But if you look overall,
it's like, I think TNA is getting some the.
Speaker 4: Rascals skew that number because that was a mix of
both TNA and n XT.
Speaker 6: So like in the boat.
Speaker 5: That was like, yeah, like TNA NXT and teams with both.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So but that's what I mean by that. That's a
better showing. Do I wish Joe Hendry got a couple
more minutes, absolutely, But the man got his ship in
like he got in his Pop of the Night, he
got in his his little turn posts, he got in
his moves, his kip up everything else, so he was
able to, you know, get the crowd behind him. W
W is already selling Joe Hendry merch like that was that.
Speaker 5: W W World, Like you could meet him at World
and you could do.
Speaker 3: His entrance on the stage. Thing.
Speaker 2: I do think one thing that this partnership is like
aw where they're just farming talent though, Jordan Grace, like
they are setting.
Speaker 1: Up before this second.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing they did with Ocada and Jay White,
and then there's a couple other people where it's just yeah,
the second that contract's over, let us know, big dog.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like they're getting like a free trial.
Pretty much like you got to use someone you want.
It's how you avoid contract is up, you actually have
to pay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's how you avoid tampering. You can go
and you can say, hey, I want to use this
person before I put them in a storyline. How much
time do they have left on their contract, because we
don't want to put them in a story with one
of our people. And they leave in a month, Oh,
they have your left perfect.
Speaker 5: Even then, the thing is like Jordan Grace, supposedly her
contract isn't going to be up until like summer of
this year, but then you know, magically, after her NXT appearances,
her contract was shortened, like.
Speaker 4: She she she wanted out. After they did the whole
restructuring of who was in charge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot of a lot of people
do it, and Scott ta Moore just got like fired
overnight and yeah, that's when they brought Tessa back.
Speaker 1: That was like definitely, like I me the out of ear.
Speaker 6: Yes, I think she wanted.
Speaker 3: Out break garn like before the tests of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no for sure, but that was like to me,
the chair on top of like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just she straight upset that once Scott de
Moore got fired, she walked in there and said, hey,
I know I have this much time, I don't want
to be here and it's best for you to let
me go. So you know, that one was the writing
on the wall. They shut themselves in the foot with that,
but a lot of other people it's just been yeah,
i'm gonna pick this talent, I'm going to use you
for this and let's It's.
Speaker 5: Kind of like the reason that I think like they
they wouldn't buy t NAS compared to them buying Triple
A because the TNA's like literally like theycoln ask for
literally anyone from TNA, and TNA would probably give it
to them, Like they wouldn't even have to, Like the
only thing they would really buy TNA for would be
like for the library or the footage. Like if for
the talent, they could literally ask for I'm sure Day
could ask for anyone, and if they gave them Joe
Hendry to lose to rand orans for for three minutes,
like I think if they asked for yeah, can we
have the Rascals or whoever?
Speaker 1: No reason, whoever else.
Speaker 2: There's zero reason, especially because like a lot of the
talent is also still in aw as well too, So it's.
Speaker 1: Not like and they don't have the network anymore. They don't.
Speaker 5: They're not like, yeah, there's nowhere to put it, and
they don't like unless they do TNA ball exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, except that would be it for hist YouTube channel,
because I only Netflix is gonna be like, hey, can
we get the library buy it?
Speaker 5: They buy it for the social media guy who can post.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, but they should buy him. Yeah he's good,
but DSL said Orton faced Goldberg. That's why I pitch
on predictions. But you gotta remember Goldberg probably needs some
prep time, right, so two weeks, No that can happen.
Speaker 3: But I thought that he's been in the in the gym,
he's training.
Speaker 2: Has he been okay, then he should have red versus gear.
But yeah, and fun r KO, I knew the second
to the post. I'm like oh, it's over for him
here because.
Speaker 4: His face, though during the pose is once h Randy
Orton starts coming in and his face dropped from just
the smile to an absolute oh shit moment this is happening.
Speaker 6: Is hilarious to me.
Speaker 4: I've watched that clip over and over again of him
just going.
Speaker 6: Ha ha oh.
Speaker 5: And I saw someone point out to the the r
KO like out of nowhere worked even better because he
is like, he doesn't even he's just looking straight like
he has no reaction because Randy would have been coming
up to him, but he's just looking straight forwardly.
Speaker 3: It just comes out of fun moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good transition to we're talking about our last match,
and then that's supposed gonna give us some draft results
here and we'll give a number on rust May night too.
But quote from Triple A to the press conference, and
don't worry, Bailey will be just fine, true pro Well, yeah,
of course it'll be just fine. She's stuck there for
three years. But uh yeah, I have much more to
rant on this, because you can go back to last
night's episode. Overall, just wasn't a fan of any of this.
The match was Sorry, I just said Lyra's mystery partner,
like we all guess, was Becky Lynch versus Living Quale.
Speaker 1: They beat them.
Speaker 2: To me, this was a very raw tag team match,
like kind of talking about a new day, like even
the New Day when I think was better than this,
and this.
Speaker 1: Was another like the Hendry one.
Speaker 2: It was for the moment, so that's where it started
to fall off night too for me a little bit.
Speaker 1: And then obviously the kind of met ending we got.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just wish there was a different way
to do this if they said they knew this for
weeks in advance. I don't know why you just don't
do the special challenge. It sucks to me for Bailey,
and I get it, but it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It made me, oh, sorry, I guess.
Speaker 2: We have Paul and AJ talk about Sorry, we'll go
back to that after I did zip over that. But yeah,
it just made me all invested in this with the
whole I just don't like it. I'm not saying like
I personally don't like Becky Lynch. I'm gonna lose sleep
over it. It's just like I've liked the story with
Lyra and Bailey, and I'm somebody that I get there
is a position for part timers, but it just feels
very weird for Bailey to be the whole road WrestleMania
season story and then like, yeah, you're just sat out,
like you can have like you can have Becky return
the night after and all, I'm sure it's not that,
because what was a coot PW I said, like, oh,
she wouldn't return to the creatives right, well, I.
Speaker 3: Said they pretty much said it was up to her
when she wanted to return.
Speaker 2: And to me, it's just like so I send the discords,
like so the creative was, don't do any WrestleMania season
dates and screw over Bailey. That's great creative in my thing,
It's just like, yeah, I'm curious where. Of course you're
gonna get the big pop now, but I could see
people turn on Becky now.
Speaker 1: Luckily they might want that.
Speaker 2: I hope they don't just do the Naomi Jade Bianca
beat for beat story.
Speaker 5: That a new motto and like on the merchant stuff
seems to be back in business, which I mean could
be a.
Speaker 2: Best business and that might be the design, right, and
maybe that's it. I do just hope then fucking next year,
Bailey better have a wrestling match that's not just the
tag showcase a six woman I see, she better have
something good. I know she did have eel last year,
don't get me wrong, but like that also could have
made evented. They had a great story until they cooled
them off because the Rock wasn't I got a main
event night one brother, you know, like that's where it
was going.
Speaker 1: So like, I hope this is true.
Speaker 3: Beggy told the Bailey when they.
Speaker 2: Take titles bother you know, like and that thing, like
I'm not gonna trust triple A triple eahly all the
time he said it was an epic ending, like you know, okay,
sure it was, you know all the sudd I can't remember.
There's something else in the press, he said, Oh bout
I'm talking about Vance.
Speaker 1: We won't get into that, but yeah, this to me,
I just was not it. It's a wait and see.
But I still just didn't like how this all went down.
How you feel about the Steven.
Speaker 6: The match itself was fine. I mean, once Becky came
out and.
Speaker 4: They did the whole backing up her countryman thing, it
seemed pretty set. After that, they had a couple of
spot a couple of moments. The staredown between Becky and
Live was fun, but that, yeah, I agree with you.
It's all overcast by the fact that you know, you're
still thinking Bailey was supposed to be in this match,
and how many other women on the roster could you
have used as Lyra's partner to get jumped in the
back and taken out rather than Bailey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, put Maxine Debris in there for a little bit,
you know.
Speaker 5: But for me, this is like the thing of like,
like like Becky beating Bianca in like ten seconds or
whatever was like in the moment, and looking back at it,
I think it's a dumb and like bad decision, but
I think it'll lead to good stuff.
Speaker 2: That's what they have to do, right, They got to
follow up on it. It's the same thing of like
the Rock stuff where it's like when he was friends
with Cody and then they turned around me and at work,
but now they've made it not work again. So that's
just like an inner liking thing. And I do think
you can do some good stuff there, especially because Lyra
has the icy title, right, so if you can have
her feuting with Bailey Becky over that, that can hopefully
raise some prestige. But it's just like I wish the
inciting incident wasn't kind of a stickler point, right, like
something that kind of sucked.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. But what was any thought on the
actual match?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I thought it was fine, Like I thought they had
they had good country, but yeah, it wasn't really that long,
and it was just sort of like also just kind
of ended abruptly, like especially since a lot of other
of like Live and Raquel's like tag title matches have
usually been these like long lots of kickout type matches,
and she just ended it with the manhandle.
Speaker 3: Sounds like, oh that's it, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But one thing I will say is like it shows
that like at least triple ah, someone is very in
on Lyra Valcarria like a double champion.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah for her, she had fucking awesome gear next
to even though her hair had all that stuff, and
like lyra like because I didn't see all her next work,
but she is just a.
Speaker 3: She has done a lot better than when she was
in an XT. Well there you go, Like definitely, like
she definitely and.
Speaker 1: She changed like she she you.
Speaker 3: Can see like she definitely when she got to rain roster,
she definitely.
Speaker 5: Started like she does a lot more like power type
moves than now, So she's built like a even if
you look at when she first got to main roster
to what she looks like now. Definitely more focused on
on that. Oh and yeah, and her her NXT run
was like it wasn't very good, Like it was like
just like a random like it wasn't like even a
transitional rate. It was just like a badly booked rain
Like she would just like take pins and like tag
matches to like set up matches just like random people.
And then she had like one like pl title defense and.
Speaker 3: Then just like lost and got called up.
Speaker 5: Like she's had a better run on main roster and
just like a year even with like the Puerfusion collective
like Vortex, I think the stuff in the recent months
has like completely overshadow, and I think she like she
has a good personality and obviously great in ring, and
I think she's she's just great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just one thing they need to do
because they have the icy title. And I'm not with
everybody like oh she's doing nothing. It's like, well, no,
she's defended the town. But now you do need a
story eventually, right, And I think that's this is hopefully
what it's gonna be. And no, they definitely like her,
and uh no to me, she get she reminds me
a lot a little more progress because she has like
the WU thing and she has the birds up. But
she reminds me of when Daniel Bryan was in WW
to start, like just great wrestler, but like a little
vanilla character wise, but like he could always like you
can see something there. So she reminds me of like
a little Brian in a sense. And I think that
she's just gonna get better and better and the ring
skills there, so we'll see what happens with the story.
And yeah, just a moment match, but yeah, good for her.
Double champ who has her in the draft? Actually who
has the draft?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah?
Speaker 2: Which I can't wait to lose all the points at
some point. But finally our last match. I forgot about
this before we get in the draft. AJ versus Logan
Paul completely says, I, Like I said, I'm always the
biggest Logan Paul fan. This match I thought was fine.
I thought this was like not as athletic as I thought.
Speaker 1: It was gonna be.
Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be just a very kind
of a spot fest, and they they tried not to
do that, so I kind applaud them for that, but
it just didn't work. And I think also the stuff
with Logan and his phone and the drone just didn't work.
It's like I said in the opening with the trascot,
I just felt like this was more like Logan Paul
paid w million dollars.
Speaker 1: So I could advertise myself.
Speaker 2: It did not feel we're other years when his US title,
even the match with stef those felt more natural.
Speaker 1: This felt like funny enough.
Speaker 2: Back in the day when seeing Punk Dan will wrestle
Triple H, it felt like when Triple H had to
be on the card, That's what this felt like. Of Logan,
well just has to be there. I would rather just Hey,
put his Prime stuff everywhere, give him a skit, whatever,
segment cool.
Speaker 5: But I honestly would have liked this match if it
had like the Prime bottle type stuff like that adds
like a bit of fun, and like the person in
the bottle will always get hit by something or taken
a big move.
Speaker 3: So I don't know my main complaints.
Speaker 5: Match is just like I don't know how long it was,
but it felt like it was like twenty five minutes long.
Speaker 1: It was seventeen minutes. It fell to me.
Speaker 2: It felt long, and it just it's funny that just
it luckily didn't like kill kill the.
Speaker 1: Crowd, but it definitely brought it to a halt.
Speaker 2: Like the whole night, the crowd was hot, and that
was the time where everyone kind of cooled off and
people were there for the Entridges. People were chanting for
AJ but it's seventeen minutes. Like, if you're getting fifteen
minutes plus, you gotta have to be a four star match.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, you got And this was not that.
Speaker 2: This was like a like i'd say, like a three
point twenty five. I know that's a weird rating, but
just like I can't say a.
Speaker 1: Three, but not a three five.
Speaker 2: And I hate like that fucking guy that always interferes
the match. I hate that that's become like his solo
where he just goes there.
Speaker 5: I don't even know who that is because it's not
even like one of the jefadcast.
Speaker 6: That's all we know is Jeff Yeah, because like they did.
Speaker 5: Like his podcast, Guy's Interfere one time but I have
generally no clue who.
Speaker 3: This Jeff got.
Speaker 1: But he's he's been there a few yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Know, like he's shown up multiple times.
Speaker 5: But I mean like it's like, like why if you're
gonna have somebody interfere do like the guy the podcast
and they did it like the first time, I think, like,
that's the worst jewel match. Yeah yeah, I mean that's
the Crown Jewel matches. Like his friends Jake Paul comes in,
but this one, yeah, just Jeff.
Speaker 6: He's apparently Logan's manager.
Speaker 1: Okay, great, he's no chrisma. And then this I forgot mentioned.
Speaker 2: We got this moment where he goes for the knucks,
AJ hits or Cross Karen Cross, I don't know, or
hits someone.
Speaker 1: He gives AJ the knucks and AJ.
Speaker 2: Throws them away again, just like EO and the Dominic thing.
It's the same finish as the Cody match, where a
good guy can't use weapon and he gets been the
ass for it.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: These producers are gonna meet up be like, hey, what
any are you doing? Okay, we can't do that. I
was really hoping A just used the nuts and went on.
But I guess we're gonna get more of Karen Cross
and AJ feuding. And I didn't see that match of
AJ and care Across. I missed it, but my timeline
told me enough that Karen Cross is he doesn't have
the hood spot like people were hoping. So yeah, all
this was always This was probably I don't think it's
the worst match of the weekend, but it's probably my
least favorite match because it just took up so much time.
I would rather now than do the spot fest, and
I hate the camera stuff, so yeah, my least.
Speaker 6: The drone thing. It kept getting to the point.
Speaker 4: Where I'm like, all right, we're either gonna do this
or we're not gonna do this. Honestly, this would have
even though they did great with their street fight, this
would have worked more. Logan works more in a street
fight setting where you can go in the crowd, you
can have those weird spotty movements, and he can do
that stuff like with the drone or with the interactions
with the people, and it's not as jarring to the
match when you try to have a straight up wrestling
match and then you keep involving these drones and having
these camera things and having your spots with Prime and
then your friends interfere. It kind of takes it out
of it. Either do one or do the other. Either
you're gonna have a gimmick match or you're gonna have
a wrestling match. Logan needs to stay in a straight
up gimmick match and just call it a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any thoughts.
Speaker 5: Not really Like, yeah, i'd say for me, you said
you're not the worst, but least favorite. I would probably
say it was the worst at least a like I
would give. I would give a fail. I'd give like
like a two point five.
Speaker 3: Oh, like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I I agree, I definitely agree it's both the worst and.
Speaker 5: Like i'd say two point five because it wasn't like
a terrible match, but I just wasn't interested at all
and just way too long.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 2: You guys have talked me into the thing. I'm being
too generous because I guess I go to there athletic.
But yeah, you guys have made some points. So yeah,
let's don get the points. David, overall night two, what
would you give it that ten.
Speaker 4: Overall out of ten? Uh, I am going to give
it probably seven point five eight ish. I'll have to
rewatch some beats to give it an eight. It could
have been higher, it could have been a solid eight
and a half, but that ending drops it off, and
then the Logan Paul.
Speaker 6: Match drops it off.
Speaker 4: So you know what, I'm just I'm gonna settle with
an eight because the opening match absolutely killed it. Drew
and Damien Praise was great, the spot fest that was
the Fatal four way was great, the Joe Hendry pop
was fun, and then most of Sina and Cody were
great matches.
Speaker 6: So i'd, yeah, I'm gonna go eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you s bops?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say i'd probably because yesterday I was undecided
on Night one score. I think I'll go with like
a seven for my Night one score and for tonight.
I'm trying to think because it's like I'm trying to
balance out like the stuff I loved versus the stuff
I didn't really like, especially towards the end. But I
think I'll probably go with like an eight out of ten,
just because i think just rewatching those first three matches
I think is like that could be your your WrestleMania.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I think for me, I'm a I can't get
right tonight, I'm gonna go seven point five. I gave
last night a six, so a little bit better. But
for me, yeah, if you talk, those first three matches
were on the way to like anywhere from like a
nine to ten rating. For me, that was great, and
even the main event, if that didn't underwhelm, then I
would for sure be a eight. That point five is
why I can't get there could have been eight, maybe even higher.
Speaker 5: But and I'm torn between some point five and eight
because it's like I have like literally like a five
star match up the start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's the thing where for me
it's like it sounds weird. It's not because of Joe Hendry,
but that match to Joe Hendra Rani Orton, that's where
it like.
Speaker 1: Takes a switch of you get that, you get the tag,
you got aj and Logan Paul. It's almost like last
night where.
Speaker 2: It's like you get the three in a row that
were meh, and then we got La and Jacob's like
oh finally where.
Speaker 5: This was the first the super cut where you were
those three at the start and then you put Tiffany
and the Punka at the at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like that's the thing, like it is a
bit longer, but the way they did it tonight, I
guess i'd be you could cut some things. I did
see the sentiment and I kind of agree they won't
do this cause money, but rest this restumen. It could
have been one night. You could have cut Grand and
Ree of Phoenix. You could have cut New Day and
Viking Raiders. There's other things you could have cut. I
think they could have been a five five and a
half hour one wrestume and that's it. Like I know,
there's some big moments that you go, oh, how could
you don't end with the Hayman stuff, But that's haed
resuming before where there's been twisting turns. I just think
that this year you could have done one night. I
think it was justified. But h we'll see.
Speaker 1: So, s Bubbs, how are we doing in the draft here?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna quickly read off everyone's person here so people know.
Speaker 1: Because we did this last night and then we started talking,
we just.
Speaker 2: Completely forgot my bad as a host, forgot who are
the points? But s Bubs has John Cena, So congrats
with the main event and the points there, John Cena, Guther,
Penta Eo Sky, Naomi Bailey Jimmy Usso, Phoenix Rox and
Perez Russev and then Jabber is solo. So for people
that don't know, the rest of the picks are for wins, championships,
made events. That Suth, your job of pick is you
want them to lose to get points. My picks are
Ria Ripley, seph Rawlins, Brawn Breaker, Sharotte Flair, Jay Usso,
Randy Or and Live Morgan, Jacob Fatu alst Black.
Speaker 1: Liar of Valkyria.
Speaker 2: And then my jobra is Austin Theory and David has
Cody Rhodes, Bianca bell Air, cm Punk, Chelsea Green, Ellen Knight,
True McIntyre, Tiffany Stratt and Jay Karkill, Finn Baaler and
Montese Ford. And his job is a newly winner crowned
Andre Battle Royal twenty twenty five, Carmelo, Hayes, Sos, Bob
hit Us. With these points, and what ranking we're at here?
Speaker 3: What orders should should I go last?
Speaker 7: Last?
Speaker 1: Give me, give us last? Let's see his last.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll starting with David.
Speaker 5: David. Well, actually I'm not counting the bonus. I guess well,
I'll read them up. I haven't like added them together
to see who's actually But David for normal points is
a negative forty four points because Bianca vill Air is
a minus fifty, Cody Rhoads is a minus eight, and
l A.
Speaker 3: Knight is a minus eight.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, but he got two main events, so he's
at forty bonus points.
Speaker 3: So I think it rounds up to the.
Speaker 2: Negative four, almost in the positive.
Speaker 1: So okay, jesusise, Okay, you got n't on the climbate.
Hey you did that last year. Hopefully you can climb
it quicker.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully at least I still have Tiffy to give
me some points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least you got some champions. At least, hey,
you can get Cody when he gets to come back there.
So all right, why am I in second s pubs?
Speaker 5: Then for dress you for normal points, you're a negative
twenty six points. God, but you have thirty bonus points
because you got your one main event for Seth and
you got ten bonus Sarah meota points because he had
seven Sarah.
Speaker 1: I got the Sarah Marros. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: And so yeah, I guess you're at a positive four
because I was negative eight or Bron negative fifty for
Charlotte negative eight for Live, but you got ten for Lara,
ten for Jacob, ten for j and Seth one as well,
and Randy.
Speaker 2: Should should I get more for Jacos? He was a success?
Did we do successful?
Speaker 1: We the failures?
Speaker 3: It just damn it?
Speaker 1: Why did I agree to that?
Speaker 2: But okay, goddamn Charlotte couldn't have Why didn't you poultic
your way to win?
Speaker 1: Okay? What you so? David's negative four? I'm four? Where
are you at? S bubs?
Speaker 3: I'm for normal points? I'm at fourteen?
Speaker 1: God damn.
Speaker 5: So I got ten per Cena negative eight for Goonther
and six for EO retaining the title, and I have
twenty bonus points for CM Maine event.
Speaker 3: So I showed on. I'm like at thirty four thirty four?
Speaker 1: Okay, so me and David got a big hill to climb.
Speaker 2: But hey, it's just starting out, and luckily, I think
this year it's gonna be a wild year. Tough to
predict a lot of things with how it's gonna go.
So the draft has started same order as it ended
last s Bub's first b second.
Speaker 5: I think we actually got the failed like Rumbull, Rumble
and Chamber wins because we didn't I don't think any
of us drafted any of the losers, at least for
that first to pick, like when it would have.
Speaker 1: No, did yeah because it was Cody and who.
Speaker 3: Who's the the money in the banks? Both Bailey?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: It was yeah, I both well not did someone get
someone got negative for Drew right because he tried to
cash it and he failed last year?
Speaker 7: Right that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so well we'll see all congrats I
suppose on taking the first lead there. But yeah, we've
done it.
Speaker 2: We reviewed both nights of WrestleMania. I'm not sure when
his backlash.
Speaker 1: I think we'll be back before May tenth. Okay, yeah,
we'll definitely do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, and I'm about fifty to fifty on
I may actually be at backlash.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we'll do it before.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, we'll do one before and then we
can do an after. We'll see what happens. We'll look
at the schedules, but yeah, it may.
Speaker 3: We're gonna call in from from the arena.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so, or we can always just do the
day after two or something like that too. So yeah, no,
we'll probably do that because I forgot I'm always forgetting
that the pay reviews are on Saturday, so yeah, looking
for that.
Speaker 1: That'll be our next episode.
Speaker 5: That's just really not that far away like they have
like this like Roptermania, and then two more raws and
then that's pretty much already backlash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, and then to May we'll be doing
the bi weekly, so we usually have one the beginning
of the month.
Speaker 1: When the end of the month we'll go from there.
And yeah, just go to schedule down below. I had
the feed. If you want just a gimmick feed and
not miss an episode, it's there.
Speaker 2: I always try it. Now it's like a week advance
when O're doing our episodes. But no, this is a
good time. Thank you guys for being on both these episodes.
It's a very good, very good time. Also, you know,
sometimes it sucks when you get that ending, but it's
fun when you.
Speaker 1: Get to just sit here and shoot the ship forbidden.
Speaker 2: We'll see, are we gonna get our Mauci black Cody
feud Seina said he didn't talk on the press or
he's just talking a raw, so hopefully there's some big
stuff there. Uh, it's gonna be interesting because I feel
like they're uh, you know, Triple H is gonna he's
gonna get on that phone and he's gonna be pacing
around all night Matt about the worst rest of any ending.
Speaker 1: And he's he'll should deliver.
Speaker 5: A picture calling anyone. He's gonna raid NXT. You just
get like fifty daybutes just to make people have I need.
Speaker 1: A favor, Yeah, Sean, Sean's gonna wrestle Sena again. You
know thrice.
Speaker 3: I gotta have Soluka vacate.
Speaker 2: I need her on Rod and they just they just
start over. They're like all championships have.
Speaker 3: Been vacing, just vac crowning all of them on Raw
tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: That's my pitch.
Speaker 3: You got five million viewers on I really.
Speaker 2: Need step You know that the leg moves things, she
does the head scissors. I need that on Raw stat
because they're not liking we're doing.
Speaker 3: We're doing versus Stephanie.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a billion views on Twitter. Billion views
on Twitter. But yes, since I'm taking Tuesday off until then,
I will not be boring. We'll be back next month, uh,
in a couple of weeks, and I will talk to
you then.
Speaker 1: Have a good one.
Speaker 3: See