1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: This is Pet Life Radio. Let's Talk Pets. 2 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Hello pet parents, Welcome to Best Bets for Pets. I'm 3 00:00:26,039 --> 00:00:29,640 your show host Michelle Fern. So today we're going to 4 00:00:29,719 --> 00:00:33,479 talk about a topic near and dear to all pet 5 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,119 parents' hearts. Dent don't care right. We know it's important, 6 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,200 but it's a challenge, and it's really a challenge when 7 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,479 it involves cats. And my guest today is going to 8 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,799 tell us about a product for cats, and I'm so 9 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,079 excited to have them on, So stay tuned, we'll be 10 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:51,679 right back. 11 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 3: You know the expression cats have nine lives, Well, what 12 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,359 if you can give them one more? 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Welcome 23 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:53,920 doctor Greg. 24 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:56,239 Speaker 5: Thanks Michelle, thanks for having me on your show. 25 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,359 Speaker 2: I'm very excited to have you on. Can you share 26 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,840 a little bit about your background to our listeners. 27 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have training in animal nutrition in a subspecialty 28 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:12,159 in nutritional biochemistry. I've worked on human hospitalized patients malnourished 29 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,960 children in over twenty five years in the pet food industry. 30 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,479 I've been with put Honesty for almost four years now. 31 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,479 Speaker 2: Wow. And before we talk all about the great products 32 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,159 at pet Honesty, especially what we're going to talk about today, 33 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,120 do you have any fur babes right now yourself? 34 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 5: We lost our four footed dog, Cody, and he's not 35 00:02:32,759 --> 00:02:34,919 We've got a vacuum right now, unfortunately. But I've been 36 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,199 a dog lover and dog parent for most of my 37 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,759 adult life and I've also had three cats. But right now, unfortunately, 38 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:43,800 we don't have a pet in the home, and it 39 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,759 doesn't feel right. 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: Well taking a break, and I'm sorry for your loss. 41 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,680 It never goes away, and sometimes you just need to 42 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,080 kind of take a break. 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,759 Speaker 5: I do have many grandpops and grand cats, so. 44 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: They all count. At one time I had five cats 45 00:02:57,479 --> 00:03:00,639 and two dogs. Now we're down the three cats, So 46 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:04,280 it changes that for a baby. Household changes. So let's 47 00:03:04,319 --> 00:03:07,319 talk about dental care for cats. I thought it was 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,719 hard to brush your dog's teeth. Brushing a cat's teeth, 49 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,240 to me is almost impossible, So I think it's best 50 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,360 if you start when they're kittens. But it is really 51 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:23,479 hard to do, and cats have much sharpper teeth than dogs, 52 00:03:23,879 --> 00:03:26,479 and there's a lot of bacteria in their mouths. So 53 00:03:26,479 --> 00:03:29,919 I'm always petrified that i might get bit or clawed, 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,599 and I've heard some scary stories. So what can we 55 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,400 do to take care of our cat's teeth well? 56 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,479 Speaker 5: The first thing is to recognize that problems with oral 57 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,400 health is a big that you often a very big 58 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,800 unaddressed issue in cats. Over seventy five percent or almost 59 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,400 seventy or seventy five percent of cats over the age 60 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,919 of two have for oral health. And as you mentioned, 61 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:57,919 trying to brush the cat's mouth as an adult, it 62 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,680 takes difficult. The definition of different called to a whole 63 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:03,919 new meaning. It's just not easy to do. The cats 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,520 don't like it. It's very stressful, and compliance long term 65 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,120 from the path plant perspective, is very poor. And if 66 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:14,240 you don't address the poor oral health it creates a 67 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,959 barber for bacteria to reside. They grow, they produce toxins 68 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,560 that causes inflammation, and the gum the recess and over 69 00:04:23,639 --> 00:04:26,839 time tooth losses is often in the picture. The other 70 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,839 thing that's very scary, and this is true for cats, 71 00:04:29,879 --> 00:04:32,480 dogs and us humans, is if there's a lot of 72 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:35,360 bacteria in the mouth and especially around the gum line, 73 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:40,120 those bacteria can travel into the bloodstream. That's called bacterial translocation, 74 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,240 and it can cause a lot of inflammation inside the body. 75 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,240 It can lead to heart disease, kidney disease, things like that. 76 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,079 So you want to have a clean mouth so you 77 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,279 can have a clean body. And the best way to 78 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,920 really address that is establishing practices and routines that keep 79 00:04:56,959 --> 00:05:01,199 the mouth healthy from an early stage. MA cats is 80 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,399 probably not the preferred route. 81 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: No brushing is hard, and it's interesting when you've brought 82 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:09,040 up I have heard that before, but a lot of 83 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,399 people have not that oral care is so important because 84 00:05:12,399 --> 00:05:16,199 of tartar build up. And while the dentist's office is 85 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,800 not my favorite place I go, I go when something 86 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:23,279 comes up, I go. I don't just you know, close 87 00:05:23,319 --> 00:05:25,959 my eyes and pretend and I try to do the 88 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,360 same for my fur Babes was much easier brushing my 89 00:05:29,439 --> 00:05:32,279 dog's teeth. I mean he would lick the toothbrushes. I 90 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,040 was trying to get in there, but it was possible 91 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:39,360 with cats, forget it. I've seen some people brushing their 92 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:44,480 cat's teeth on social media, but usually kittens or maybe 93 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,959 very skilled people. So besides some of the consequences you 94 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:53,120 just talked about, what else can happen if we don't 95 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,519 brush our cat's teeth. 96 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,519 Speaker 5: Well, there's multiple stages that occur in having problems happen 97 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,879 in the model versus plaque formation. And plaque is when 98 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:05,720 you have bacteria that set up shop in the mouth 99 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,639 and they produce this film. It's a biofilm called plaque, 100 00:06:09,879 --> 00:06:12,399 and it coats the teeth, it coats inside the mouth 101 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,600 and humans, you know, we brush that plaque off once 102 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,879 or twice a day and that keeps that biofilm from 103 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:25,199 being there, and over time, calcium in the saliva attaches 104 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,519 to that plaque and it forms tartar. It's like a 105 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:31,879 low grade mortar, and as tartar builds up, it provides 106 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,720 more spaces for bacteria to hide, more platform, more tartar 107 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,279 form and it just becomes this vicious cycle in over time, 108 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,360 you have a lot of problems. So what you can 109 00:06:42,399 --> 00:06:48,399 do are things from a supplement standpoint to help disrupt 110 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:52,199 the plaque formation. If there's biofilm there, there's things that 111 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,920 can break it down. You can modulate the bacteria in 112 00:06:55,959 --> 00:06:59,160 the mouth so there's less plaque formers in the mouth. 113 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:02,639 And you can also provide things that bind calcium. So 114 00:07:02,759 --> 00:07:04,879 if there is a little bit of plaque, if you 115 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,959 bind up the calcium, it doesn't attach and form tartar. 116 00:07:08,079 --> 00:07:12,560 So there's methods that don't involve brushing that can reduce 117 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,399 the formation of plaque and tart and that's really I 118 00:07:15,439 --> 00:07:19,040 think the goal that's best, the best approach for cat 119 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:19,720 oral health. 120 00:07:19,959 --> 00:07:23,079 Speaker 2: Okay, and we're going to talk about your amazing products soon, 121 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,720 but I have one more question. What about for those 122 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,879 pet parents listening that say, well, you know, I take 123 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,040 my dog to the vet to get a deep cleaning 124 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:35,000 once a year, which is a deep cleaning, which is 125 00:07:35,079 --> 00:07:39,240 a lot different than the twilight cleaning that there's like 126 00:07:39,279 --> 00:07:42,240 a semi cleaning that they have. I've heard this is 127 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:44,560 for dogs, I'm not sure for cats. Then there's a 128 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:46,800 deep cleaning where they have to put your dog under 129 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,759 and that's what you in my personal opinion, that's what 130 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,319 you really need. And for cats, I'm not sure what 131 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:56,160 do they do for cats. I mean, you can do 132 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,759 a deep clean for cats. I think for cats they 133 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,639 must put the cats under. It can't do any twilight cleaning. 134 00:08:01,959 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 5: It had to be under general anesthesia, and that involves 135 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,000 a pre anesthetic assessment of the blood CBC in a 136 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,439 profile and make sure that the cat is in healthy 137 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,480 enough shape to go under anesthesia. And then they'd go 138 00:08:14,519 --> 00:08:17,639 in and do a complete dental and that includes scaling 139 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,040 the teeth, removing that harder that has formed at the 140 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,879 gum line, and taking that off. It's very expensive and 141 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:28,680 for older cats, it's risky. For any older dog or cat, 142 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:31,920 it's risky, and it's a lot. It's a lot both 143 00:08:32,279 --> 00:08:36,120 time cost and risk. It does get the job done. 144 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,799 That's a treatment approach. The other approach is more trying 145 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,200 to prevent these things from happening in the first place. 146 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:46,159 Speaker 2: Okay, and if you are diligent in preventing, can you 147 00:08:46,279 --> 00:08:47,519 avoid the deep cleaning? 148 00:08:47,879 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: You can certainly reduce the frequency and severity of the problem. 149 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:55,840 And that's approach we would recommend. 150 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: Okay, and Mark, this isn't really We're not going to 151 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,360 get too much into dental care as far as the 152 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:06,440 different treatments. But I have done deep cleaning with my dog. 153 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,679 I have not done it with my cats. 154 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:10,759 Speaker 5: It's not as common. It's not as common. 155 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what about the twilight you've heard of that, right, 156 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:17,480 they don't put the dogs under, but they just do 157 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,200 it really good cleaning. I just think that's I don't know. 158 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,720 Some people swear by it. I've never done it. I 159 00:09:23,759 --> 00:09:26,799 did the full on as long as my dog's blood 160 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:29,879 work was okay, I did it. But there are risks. 161 00:09:30,159 --> 00:09:34,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, the compromise is that it doesn't require anesthesia, so 162 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,320 that's a plus. But the negative is is it it's 163 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,080 not as thirl. It doesn't get down right at the 164 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,879 gum line or sometimes even below the gum line to 165 00:09:43,919 --> 00:09:47,279 remove the tartar and plaquet, and that if that remains 166 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,279 after a twilight cleaning, that just is a place where 167 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,720 all the bad stuff can begin again. So they it 168 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:57,120 has a jump start to start that whole negative process. 169 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,679 So I would prefer that if a dog is gonna 170 00:10:00,919 --> 00:10:03,000 have a dental clean, that it gets a very thorough 171 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:05,399 one which includes the scaling and the polishing. 172 00:10:05,759 --> 00:10:07,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. All right, we're going to take a 173 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:09,600 short break. Ho, We're gonna come right back. 174 00:10:12,519 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 6: Take a bite out of your competition. 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How did 191 00:11:29,879 --> 00:11:31,720 the idea for this product come about? 192 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 5: Well, Michelle, we have a lineup of dual texture cat supplements. 193 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:41,320 It's crunchy on the outside and cream on inside. It's 194 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,320 a format that's very common in treats, and we've been 195 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,080 able to put active, active ingredients in there and cats 196 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,799 love them. Cats, as you know, cats are very finicky, 197 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,919 and any supplement that has a seventy percent of approval 198 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,039 rating or hire and a cat is considered good. We're 199 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,799 over ninety percent on our nine products that we have 200 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,759 in this dual texture format, and the one we just 201 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,519 most recently introduced is the fresh Bread dental Bite. It 202 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:12,360 has actives in there and it's really a the cat's 203 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,799 viewed as a treat, but it's a treat with benefits, 204 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,159 and this format is highly acceptable and we think compliance 205 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,919 is going to be very good because of that. 206 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think it is the best thing ever my 207 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,919 cat crew. So Dennis Charlotte and Molly Charlotte's the pickiest 208 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:34,360 and the most misunderstood strangers. They're all rescues. Dennis will 209 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,480 pretend heed anything and then he decides, so he's a 210 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,600 little picky too. Molly's in between. So I had to 211 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:47,159 put the dental wide sample in a drawer because Dennis 212 00:12:47,279 --> 00:12:50,120 was finding his way to them and he has clawed 213 00:12:50,159 --> 00:12:55,720 open things before. So yes, very palatable among my cat crew, 214 00:12:55,879 --> 00:12:58,639 which I think they're a good blend, you know, between 215 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,519 the three of judge, because yeah, I was a little 216 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:04,039 bit finigy and a little bit you know, okay and 217 00:13:04,919 --> 00:13:07,559 all of that, but they loved it. Are the dental 218 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,879 bytes enough for dental tream in for your cats? 219 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 5: They will go a long ways to prevent the problems 220 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,480 from occurring or certainly slow down the rate at which 221 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:20,399 they occur. This product has not just one or two, 222 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,879 it has got four different approaches to combat plaque formation 223 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,799 and tartar formation. We have in their help and help 224 00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:34,360 is known to reduce tartar in cats, and that's very helpful. 225 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,039 It's got hexametaphosphate that's a calcium binder. So if there 226 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,480 is some plaque it's formed, that calcium gets bound up 227 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,879 by the hexametap phosphate and it keeps it from attaching 228 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,399 to the biofilm or the plaque. That's also used in 229 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,360 human toothpaste, by the way, and many chart control human toothpaste. 230 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,840 It's got a very potent next generation ingredient called a 231 00:13:55,879 --> 00:14:00,600 post biotic, and this particular post biotic decreases plat formation, 232 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,600 which is very exciting. And lastly, it's got what's called 233 00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:08,879 the Fresh Breath Blend. It's a combination of decaffeinated green 234 00:14:08,919 --> 00:14:12,840 tea and parsley. The thing about green tea is it's 235 00:14:12,879 --> 00:14:17,519 got a compoundent called cattakins and that decreases microbes in 236 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:20,080 the mouth and it also decreases inflammation. I don't know, 237 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,399 if you've ever drank unsweetened green tea, your teeth and 238 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,480 mouth kind of feels squeaky afterwards. That's the catkins that 239 00:14:26,919 --> 00:14:29,960 do that. And then the other component is the parsley, 240 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,799 which has chlorophyll, which is known to help with platosis 241 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,759 or bad breast. So it's a very powerful four pronged 242 00:14:37,799 --> 00:14:41,320 approach to help bats keep a healthy mouth. 243 00:14:41,879 --> 00:14:46,879 Speaker 2: What made Pet Honesty decide to create this for cats 244 00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:49,480 Because I know you have a product for dogs that 245 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,759 you've had on the market. Cats are a lot more difficult. 246 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,919 Did you see a space in the market for it? 247 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,600 Did Pat Honesty say, you know, this is a challenge, 248 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,639 we're going to take it. What was the thinking behind it, 249 00:15:01,679 --> 00:15:05,360 because it's not easy to create products for cats. We 250 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:07,519 have all kinds of products on Best Bets for pets, 251 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:10,000 and a lot of times, you know, there's products for 252 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:12,840 the dog, what about cats that's coming, It's going to 253 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:16,080 be way after when you know, so your product came after. 254 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:19,519 But we're people writing in and saying, Okay, you have 255 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,639 my dog that he has his dental powder, he's fine, 256 00:15:23,039 --> 00:15:25,559 I need something for my cat. What was the thought 257 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:25,960 behind it? 258 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:29,399 Speaker 5: There was actually two things that kind of came into play. 259 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,759 One is the high incidence of for oral health and cats, 260 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,279 and we knew that was an unmet need that had 261 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,000 to be addressed and it really wasn't being addressed effectively. 262 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,440 And the other is is that we first came out 263 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:48,919 with a cat specific dental powder and we feel that's 264 00:15:48,919 --> 00:15:51,399 best in class. It's got many of the same actives, 265 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:53,840 and it gives you a lot of versatility. You can 266 00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:56,120 mix it with food, you can you know, do other 267 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,320 things with it. And as we were working with this, 268 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,120 we thought, you know, we we have such a great 269 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:05,840 format in that Billow technology to trunch you outside, creamy inside. 270 00:16:06,039 --> 00:16:08,919 Let's see if we can get these same active ingredients 271 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,039 in that treat format. And we did. And one of 272 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,600 the things with these supplements is you never know these 273 00:16:16,639 --> 00:16:21,000 actives have adverse impact on palatability, and we're happy to 274 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:25,399 share that this was our most palatable supplement. Ninety eight 275 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,120 percent of cats approved of it, which is unheard of. 276 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: Right, that's crazy good. 277 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,679 Speaker 5: In fact, this was so remarkable that we won the 278 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,480 twenty twenty five Pet Innovation Award for Cat Dental Product 279 00:16:38,519 --> 00:16:41,039 of the Year with this fresh Bread dental byte. So 280 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:43,639 we're really excited about what it's going to sort of 281 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,840 help in ease of use, it's going to provide to 282 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:48,360 cat parents out there. 283 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:51,519 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations on the award. Can you tell us a 284 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:53,440 little bit about it a little more detail. 285 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:55,639 Speaker 5: The only thing I know about is it's called the 286 00:16:55,679 --> 00:16:59,240 twenty twenty five Pet Innovation Award, and a panel looked 287 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,519 at all the new innovations that came out in the 288 00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:04,720 cat dental space and decided that this was the best 289 00:17:04,759 --> 00:17:07,440 one of the year. So we're thrilled to have the 290 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,720 hard work and expertise that went into it be recognized 291 00:17:11,759 --> 00:17:12,880 by an external panel. 292 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: Well, congratulations and thank you. I'm also glad to see 293 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,200 that there is a focus on cat dental care because 294 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:24,640 dental care is so important and so overlooked in felines 295 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,640 because of you know, as we talked about earlier, the 296 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,720 challenges of brushing and you know, putting them under and 297 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:37,079 their little creatures, and they're stoic creatures, so there's there's 298 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,039 just so much involved. So to have a product where 299 00:17:40,039 --> 00:17:43,039 it's as easy as here's the treat is, I mean, 300 00:17:43,079 --> 00:17:46,720 it's a no brainer. Let's talk about how to introduce 301 00:17:46,839 --> 00:17:48,400 dental bites to your cat. 302 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 5: The bullsage of this is very, very straightforward. It's one 303 00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:56,799 small chew per pound of body weight, So if you 304 00:17:56,839 --> 00:17:58,799 have a ten pound cat, you give them to these 305 00:17:58,839 --> 00:18:03,640 little little chows. For cats under two pounds and kittens 306 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,640 under six months, we cut that dose in half and 307 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,920 so it'd be one shoe per two pounds of body weight. 308 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,079 And we recommend that kittens under four months of age 309 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,759 check with your veterinarian before you you would approach this. 310 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,200 But the acceptance is so good that there's really not 311 00:18:20,279 --> 00:18:21,960 a lot of work that needs to be done on 312 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,039 the pet parents. Part is just give them the number 313 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,559 of supplements that corresponds with their body weight, and they 314 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,279 usually treat them like it's a treat and they'll readily 315 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:34,960 consume them, and so it's an easy transition. 316 00:18:35,519 --> 00:18:39,319 Speaker 2: Actually, right before we recorded, I gave some more to 317 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,599 my cats. And I'm going to confess I'm the kind 318 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,160 of person that does it then reads instructions. So back 319 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,400 in the day, you can imagine how much furniture I 320 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,920 put together backward. So that's what I did. But I 321 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,000 only gave them one and then I read the dosage, 322 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,400 which is not what you should do, listeners. You should 323 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,400 read the dose before. But I only gave them one. 324 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,519 I mean, they ate it so quickly it even beat 325 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,400 regular treats. I mean, they just chumped. And I thought, 326 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,200 I wonder if I can give you more, and I 327 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:15,079 read the dosage and I thought, yes, you can have more. 328 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,319 So I gave them some more. Now it was a 329 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:21,079 little before their dinner time. But still they are cats 330 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:23,200 and they will not eat anything that you put in 331 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,039 front of them. They're not too finicky, but they're on 332 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:29,960 the border. So they love them and I'm glad they 333 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,640 can have more than one. What about you said for kittens, 334 00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:38,200 what about for older cats? And if you have a 335 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,559 cat that for some reason cannot consume in a treat format, 336 00:19:42,839 --> 00:19:45,119 can you also mention there's a powder. 337 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: There's a powder and if for whatever reason, they don't 338 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,400 our cat doesn't like the treat format powder would be 339 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,839 an option for older cats. It's fine. In fact, probably 340 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:58,400 even more indicated because an older cat gets it, seems 341 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,519 like the incidents of oral health also increases. The only 342 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:06,200 watch out is if the cat would happen to have 343 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,359 renal failure, and in those cases with renal failure, the 344 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,680 vetinarian will normally recommend a phosphorus restricted diet and the 345 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,240 pet parent would want to check with their vetinary to 346 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,440 make sure that the phosphorus that comes in with the 347 00:20:21,519 --> 00:20:24,480 treats is compliant with that restriction. 348 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,039 Speaker 2: Okay, So, as we always say here, if you have 349 00:20:27,079 --> 00:20:30,960 any concerns, check with your vet first. But in most cases, 350 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:36,680 the dental bytes for cats from Pet Honesty are fine. Yes, Okay, 351 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,039 what other products does pet Honesty have? We have a 352 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:42,720 couple of minutes if you can share some of the 353 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,079 other products that are maybe new or very innovative or 354 00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,079 some of your favorites. 355 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 5: Well, we have nine dual texture pillow cat supplements. We 356 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,759 get a multi vitamin, hair ball support, palming get in cote, 357 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,960 joint support, robotics, urinary tract health and immune support. So 358 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,240 they're all this really highly palatable format and we're the 359 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:12,200 largest Portfolio brand on Amazon. The catsup thement Portfolio brand, 360 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,400 So they're doing very very well. Just cat parents love them, 361 00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:20,920 their cats love them, and there's great feedback on how 362 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,599 the cats respond from an efficacy standpoint. So it's really 363 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,480 it's been a very very win win proposition for us, 364 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:32,920 and that's why we continue to introduce supplements in this 365 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:34,279 format when it makes sense. 366 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,279 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad to hear that. So I have a 367 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,079 question at the office. Do you have cat taste testers? 368 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 5: We do, not necessarily in the office, but we have 369 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,799 a number of colleagues who have cats and they always 370 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:49,200 try them. And we've got a couple of people who 371 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,240 are you know, have a lot of cats and they're 372 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,680 very just like your three, you know, each very unique 373 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 and what they like and don't like, and they they 374 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:02,000 screen force and we also feed these new products at 375 00:22:02,039 --> 00:22:05,720 a category with train cats and get data on that 376 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:08,000 as well, so we make sure that we have plenty 377 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:11,519 of experiences before we go out into the marketplace. 378 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: That's good to know. And a quick question regarding supplements, 379 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,799 is there a limit into how many supplements you should 380 00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:23,319 give your cat? For humans? I know what vitamins I take, 381 00:22:23,319 --> 00:22:25,559 I don't take everything, but I take multi and a 382 00:22:25,599 --> 00:22:29,839 couple others and that works for me. So is this 383 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,119 something you should discuss with your doctor as far as 384 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,880 supplements go, I mean, not necessarily dental btes, that's dental care, 385 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,039 but maybe for autoimmune. For joint support. 386 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's common because oftentimes cats will have more than 387 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,200 one issue that needs to be addressed, and so like 388 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,079 a multivitamin, let's say, a joint support or things like that, 389 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,160 we call that stacking. And in general we say you 390 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,079 can stack three three supplements and it's okay. The one 391 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,480 caveat is that we don't recommend stacking more than two 392 00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:06,319 supplements that have probiotics, And the reason is is that 393 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,640 probotics are a live bacteria, and if you overload the 394 00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:14,799 cat's gas intestinal system with a lot of live bacteria, 395 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,160 those bacteria will have a party and there's going to 396 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,839 be some intestinal turbulence and they're fine from a health perspective. 397 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:25,599 It's just it's there's gonna be some gas and maybe 398 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,880 some loose stool, so you want to try and minimize that. 399 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,319 Speaker 2: Right, which is not fun for the cat, certainly not 400 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,480 fun for the pet parent exactly. I mean, it's like 401 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,160 a stomach ache, bad stomach ache in simplified version. But 402 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,640 that's good to know. So you can stack two. The 403 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,559 only stack two supplements if they contain probiotics. Otherwise you 404 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:49,759 can stack up to three. Correct great information. 405 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 5: With all of our head honesty ingestibles, things that a 406 00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:58,079 companion and animal will will consume, we adhere to what 407 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,160 we call the honest difference. It's our steak steak in 408 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,720 the ground, and we don't formulate with corn, soy or wheat. 409 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,839 We don't formulate with cellulose or palm oil, and that's 410 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,559 very intentional. We also don't use artificial preservatives or artificial coloring, 411 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,799 so it's a cleaner, cleaner supplement than most and that's 412 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:23,160 a very intentional formulation strategy that we've undertaken. 413 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: Your intentional formatting for Pet Honesty products is for all across. 414 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,559 Speaker 5: The burden, all ingustables. We do have a grooming line, okay, 415 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,839 and that doesn't apply to the grooming because that's a topical. 416 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, of course not. Well, that is really good 417 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,079 to know. So tell our listeners so that they can 418 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,359 have dental bliss with their cats and fresh breath. Where 419 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,720 can our listeners find dental bites from pet Honesty and 420 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:52,400 other Pet Honesty products. 421 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,519 Speaker 5: All of our cat products, including the new fresh Breadth 422 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,960 dental bytes, can be found on Amazon, Dewey, and our 423 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,039 own direct to consume Pet Honesty dot com website. 424 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,759 Speaker 2: Okay, wonderful, well, doctor Greg, I want to thank you 425 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:09,000 so much for coming on Best Bets for Pets. 426 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: Sell. 427 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:10,759 Speaker 5: Thank you, it was my pleasure. 428 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,319 Speaker 2: I hope you all enjoyed this show. I want to 429 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:16,960 thank doctor Greg from Pet Honesty for coming on Best 430 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,319 Bets for Pets. Thanks to my cat crew that so 431 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,599 enjoyed testing the dental bites, so thank you, Dennis, Charlotte 432 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,960 and Molly, Thank you cars to everyone that listens to 433 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,319 Best Bets for Pets, I greatly appreciate it. You have 434 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,640 got to try these Pet Honesty dental bites. But to 435 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,759 be honest, it is one of my biggest fears to 436 00:25:37,799 --> 00:25:40,599 even try to brush my cat's teeth. I value my 437 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,559 hands too much. So when I had the opportunity to 438 00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:48,599 try these d Pet Honesty dental bites, I thought, yes, yes, 439 00:25:48,759 --> 00:25:52,119 I love that idea. And finding out that the product's 440 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,119 clean and you know what, my cats love them was 441 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,680 just wonderful. So listeners, this is definitely product you want 442 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,200 to check out you know. Thanks again Cat Crew, and 443 00:26:04,759 --> 00:26:08,559 of course thank you so much to my producer Mark 444 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,440 Winter for working his magic and making our shows sound amazing. 445 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,960 And hey, keep listening. You never know what will happen next. 446 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,519 I'm Best Bets for pets. 447 00:26:18,519 --> 00:26:23,079 Speaker 4: Let's talk bets every week on demand only on PETLVE 448 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:35,960 radio dot com