1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets. 2 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: It's all behaved with Arden Moore, this show that teaches 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,240 you how to have harmony in the household with your pets. 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,199 Speaker 3: Join Ardina. 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: She travels coast to coast to help millions better understand 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,559 why cats and dogs do what they do. Get that 7 00:00:21,679 --> 00:00:25,320 latest scoop on famous spaces they're perfectly pampered pets, and 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,920 who's walking goo and rent in Tinseltown? From famous pet 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,839 experts and best selling authors to television and movie stars. 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,920 You'll get the latest buzz from Wagging Tongues and Tails Garner, 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,719 great pet tips and have a dog one fur flying 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,960 fun time. So get ready for the paws and applause 13 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:45,840 as we unleaseh your oh behave hosts America's pet edutainer. 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Arden Moore. 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Old Behave Show on Pet Life Radio. 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,039 I'm your host, Arden Moore. Now I'm vetting behind. Now 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,479 all those well intended New Year's resolutions you set for 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,599 yourself puff, They're gone, they're dust. But there is always 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,280 always time to bring out the healthy best in our 20 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,640 dogs and cats. How you ask, well, guess what The 21 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,000 answer man is here to unleash some really great tips 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,840 for your dogs and cats. I would like at this 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,719 time for you to give pause and applause to the 24 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:28,200 medical director of the Heart of Chelsea Veterinary Group in 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:34,040 New York City. Please welcome doctor Andrew Torchia. Welcome, Welcome, 26 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:34,799 doctor Andrew. 27 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: Hello, thank you for having me. 28 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,519 Speaker 1: All Right, so we're gonna get going on some things 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,439 we can do for our dogs and cats. But people 30 00:01:42,439 --> 00:01:44,760 are like, who is he? We got to know? Well, 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,480 this guy? I love that you put in a full 32 00:01:47,599 --> 00:01:50,920 day as a veterinarian. What is something you also enjoy 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,439 when you're not saving lives? 34 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:53,519 Speaker 4: Can I still say? 35 00:01:53,519 --> 00:01:53,879 Speaker 3: Cats? 36 00:01:54,359 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: Yes, cats, catstscots, I absolutely love them. 37 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:04,079 Speaker 1: I say, real men love cats. What is it about cats? 38 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:06,959 And they're very popular these days and they're getting there 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,840 do I mean there's adventure cats now, they're blowing it 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,199 up on social media, Instagram, things like that. But as 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,639 a man, what is it about cats? 42 00:02:17,039 --> 00:02:19,479 Speaker 4: I think? Okay, I love dogs. Grew up with dogs. 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't the sight Okay? 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: There amazing? 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was my That's basically dogs are why 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,319 I became a vet, and then I got forced into 47 00:02:27,439 --> 00:02:29,719 knowing cats because you don't just do one animal when 48 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:32,840 you're a veterinarian, and I started to get to know them. 49 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:35,680 I don't think I've really met anyone that's truly lived 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,680 with a cat and bonded with a cat that hasn't 51 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,000 become an eternal cat person. It's a relationship that can 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,680 be replaced. 53 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: I understand you have a couple of cats at home, 54 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,080 and when you say their names, the second one that 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,919 you adopted will explain your other loves. So go ahead 56 00:02:50,039 --> 00:02:52,759 and name your two cats and what they're all about. 57 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,759 Speaker 4: Okay, so my first son is Mango. Of course, he's 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,520 an orange cat original right, But he came in to 59 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:01,599 me when I was working in emergency and he was 60 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,439 in a scary situation and he really didn't have an owner, 61 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:06,840 so I just decided to keep him, and I'm so 62 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:07,599 happy that I did. 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: Well, you kind of name him a perfectly terrible cat. 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:11,840 What does that mean? 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: Terrible? 66 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Well, he's orange, and you know who knows how many 67 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,800 brain cells are actually up there with the orange ones? 68 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Oh, now, are you'll be nice? I got an orange 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,360 tabby too, Casey. He rules my world. 70 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: Okay, maybe mine with mine? 71 00:03:22,759 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Okay? 72 00:03:23,759 --> 00:03:26,719 Speaker 4: Misguided? He doesn't know how to play with soft paws. 73 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,039 If you just walk past him, me bats at you, 74 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,240 but then he just wants to head butt you and 75 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,960 be helped. Right now, I could hold him upside down 76 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,879 in my arm for three hours and she just look 77 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:38,400 dinner and mangoes right there. 78 00:03:38,879 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Everyone, So, who's the other feline friend? 79 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: And then the other one is Lady Macbeth and she 80 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,080 is a beautiful little angel cat that I couldn't live without. 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,439 Speaker 1: Either's and Lady Macbeth, which brings us to this Hey 82 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,919 pet pals, Doctor Torca. You know he's got some good credentials. 83 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,520 He went to the University of Flora, I got his 84 00:04:00,719 --> 00:04:04,080 veterinary degree. He's from the northeast Pennsylvania. Now he's in 85 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,360 New York. You've done a lot of things. I love 86 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,120 on your bio that you have a passion a passion 87 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,919 for soft tissue surgery, wound management, and cardiology. That sounds 88 00:04:13,919 --> 00:04:18,879 all veterinarian, but you love the theater right absolutely. 89 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: That was my first lob that really helped me find 90 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,560 myself when I was a kid. How So, it's a 91 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:28,439 very accepting community. It's organized, it's structured, and it's also 92 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,519 very artistic. And then ye always a message behind it. Oh, 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,079 there's always a message behind it, and I think all 94 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:37,399 of those things combined really made me fall in love 95 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:37,680 with it. 96 00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:40,319 Speaker 1: So have you performed on stage? I. 97 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,319 Speaker 4: Back in the day used to be a performer. Yes, 98 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,480 I went to My undergrad degree was in acting and 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,959 I double major in acting and veterinary biomedical science. 100 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: What do people say when they see that different kind 101 00:04:52,759 --> 00:04:55,639 of both sides of the brain being tapped. I don't know. 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 4: I hope they're thinking, well, I hope you spent enough 103 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,279 time in the veterinary park, because usually that's what I'm 104 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:03,040 doing with them. But there's a huge link with the 105 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,240 arts and sciences. There's a huge link between those two. 106 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:07,360 Very calculated. 107 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:10,439 Speaker 1: Also the arts, well, you also probably have an amazing 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,360 bedside manner. 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,879 Speaker 4: I think that it's something that I always try to 110 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,199 prioritize because it's so important. It changes everything. You can 111 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,199 say whatever medical jargon you want to say to people, 112 00:05:23,519 --> 00:05:25,600 But what matters is that they understand it and they 113 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:28,519 feel okay with what's happening. And that's kind of part 114 00:05:28,519 --> 00:05:30,399 of Virgually at heart of Chelsea, what we do, it's 115 00:05:30,399 --> 00:05:32,639 about the partnership with the person we want to be 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,040 your partner. It's kind of not how veterinarians used to practice. 117 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: No, I like that, So could you tell us a 118 00:05:38,199 --> 00:05:40,920 little bit about Heart of Chelsea Veterinary Group. I mean, 119 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,040 you've got the word heart in your company name. 120 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:46,399 Speaker 4: We started about twenty five years ago with one man 121 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,759 named Mark Siebert, and then he just built this empire 122 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:55,040 and added veterinarians that we're here to really subscribe to 123 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,720 the culture of the practice, and it's about being there 124 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,160 for our clients, being there for their pets, and of 125 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,079 of course, being there for our employees and supporting each other. 126 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: How many locations in the Big Apple five locations. 127 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:10,759 Speaker 4: We've got three Manhattan and two locations in Brooklyn, and 128 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,920 then I just helped to open up our second location 129 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,360 in Brooklyn and Prospect Heights. 130 00:06:14,759 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: You're a medical director, so tell me some of the 131 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,680 things you need to do every day besides practicing your Shakespeare. 132 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:24,399 Speaker 4: I do that I close the office door. 133 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: Do you say, never was there a greater tale of 134 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,120 woe than that of Juliet and Romeo? Right? 135 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,199 Speaker 4: And Lady Macbeth. 136 00:06:32,319 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: No, and Lady Macbeth. Do you have a quote from 137 00:06:34,879 --> 00:06:35,560 Lady Macbeth? 138 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:35,959 Speaker 3: You love? 139 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: I mean the good there's just such a good story 140 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480 and that character of Lady Macbeth is why I love 141 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,639 it everything that she is, her power, the power dynamic 142 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:49,839 between Lady Macbeth and her husband, and how just the 143 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,879 entire show that power dynamic shows. And I think that's 144 00:06:52,879 --> 00:06:55,319 so relatable to today. I mean, I hope that it's 145 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,759 not a much of a conflicting story, but that's why 146 00:06:58,800 --> 00:06:59,879 I fell in up with that play. 147 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: All right, So what are some of the things you 148 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:04,839 get to do as a veterinarian and a medical director 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,240 at Heart of Chelsea. 150 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:09,759 Speaker 4: Well, it really just starts with learning how to be 151 00:07:09,879 --> 00:07:13,600 a medical director, which has honestly been my whole journey, 152 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,000 and I'm just always growing, always learning about how to 153 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,319 be a good coach and a good mentor and how 154 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,839 to foster a culture that is beneficial for everyone. It 155 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:28,439 helps people grow. So really that's been my focus, is 156 00:07:28,439 --> 00:07:29,920 that I need to figure out how to be good 157 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:31,319 for the people that I work with. 158 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,199 Speaker 1: So we talked at the top of the show that hey, 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,959 you know, we try to make resolutions at the start 160 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,560 of every year. It doesn't always work, but you're on 161 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:43,199 a mission to help people lucky enough to have a 162 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,439 dog or a cat or more in their life to 163 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,120 get them healthy. So what are some tips you can 164 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,279 offer our pet pals when it comes to making sure 165 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:56,199 your dog or cat doesn't look like a Harry Ottoman. 166 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 4: So we're doing more than just sitting around on the 167 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,800 in front of the fireway. I love that. I think 168 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:03,879 it is actually really interesting that you asked me about 169 00:08:03,879 --> 00:08:05,639 being a medical director and then asked me this question, 170 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,680 because I think the coaching style can be applied. Yes, 171 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:15,279 when you're setting goals, have you heard of a smart goal? Yes, specific, measurable, attainable, realistic, 172 00:08:15,319 --> 00:08:17,160 and time base. So if you're going to set a 173 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:20,240 goal for your pet, make choose a smart goal. And 174 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,160 instead of just saying I'm going to play with Fluffy 175 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,319 Moore like, I'm going to make sure that Fluffy gets 176 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:29,839 thirty minutes of exercise at least twice a week for 177 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:31,680 the next three months, and then in three months, I'm 178 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,600 going to assess that goal, see if it was realistic, 179 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,639 see if I achieved it. Set a new goal. 180 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,039 Speaker 1: And from the veterinarian standpoint, and I'm saying this as 181 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,279 I could shed a few pounds, what is the impact 182 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,840 of a dog or cat having extra pounds they don't need. 183 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,440 What happens to their health. 184 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 4: It's everything, absolutely everything. If you name a b reed, 185 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:56,559 then I can name a reason why being overweight will 186 00:08:57,039 --> 00:09:00,759 affect them. And it's about just a healthy lifestyle. Really, Okay, 187 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,960 I don't focus on especially I mean, I think in 188 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,919 the human world, but also in the animal world, I 189 00:09:04,919 --> 00:09:07,399 don't focus on a number. We focus on a body 190 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:10,360 condition score. How muscled you are, how much you can 191 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:12,440 feel over top the ribs. Do you taper out at 192 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 the waist? Are you breathing comfortably either? 193 00:09:15,279 --> 00:09:15,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? 194 00:09:15,879 --> 00:09:16,759 Speaker 4: And that's the focus. 195 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: So if a dog has extra weight, what are some 196 00:09:19,759 --> 00:09:22,720 of the body systems that could be in jeopardy. 197 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,399 Speaker 4: I think if I were to think of what comes 198 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,159 to mind as the number one impact, it would probably 199 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,279 be joint health. Okay, we're looking at the little docs 200 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,080 ands when they have back issues. 201 00:09:34,399 --> 00:09:38,639 Speaker 1: Oh the low riders. Yeah, they're so long and they 202 00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:39,840 have such short legs. 203 00:09:40,519 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: It's true, there's certainly some genetic issues there. They're perfect 204 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,000 little apartment dogs, and I absolutely love them. They have 205 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,879 amazing mentations. So I'm happy we have them because we 206 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,039 kind of created these genetics through breeding. It's our responsibility 207 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,000 then to I don't care for them as to the 208 00:10:01,039 --> 00:10:02,000 best of our abilities. 209 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, everybody, we're speaking with doctor Andrew Torcia. He 210 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,600 is a medical director at the heart of Chelsea Veterinary 211 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Group in the Big Apple, New York City. We're going 212 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,320 to dive in more about some ways to keep our 213 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,039 pet their healthy best this year and beyond. But you 214 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:22,519 know the drill. We gotta take a break, so ready, sit, stay, 215 00:10:23,399 --> 00:10:24,159 We'll be right back. 216 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: Time for a walk on the red car. 217 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:31,399 Speaker 4: But of course, all behave. 218 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,919 Speaker 2: We'll be backing up lash right after these messages. Oh sure, 219 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,279 it's all fun and games until someone ends up in 220 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,960 a cone. 221 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: That's right, we are animals. 222 00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: Deal with it Headline Radio, Let's talk pets, Let's talk 223 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,600 pass it. 224 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: Let's petal Headline. 225 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: Radio, Petlight Radio dot Com. 226 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Bill Berloni, theatrical animal trainer, pet advocate and 227 00:10:57,799 --> 00:11:01,120 dog lover. Tune into the Old Big Cave Show hosted 228 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:07,399 by Arden Moore on pet Life Radio. What we're back 229 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,480 from the lot. Just check the paper and we had 230 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,600 our record showing at the. 231 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: Box, the letterbox that is now back to Oh Behave. 232 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:15,519 Here's Arden. 233 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:19,159 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Oh Behave Show on pet Life Radio. 234 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,399 I'm your host, Arden Moore. I am enjoying speaking with 235 00:11:22,519 --> 00:11:25,759 doctor Andrew Torca. He's a medical director at the heart 236 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:28,519 of Chelsea Veternary Group in New York City. He's a 237 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,480 major cat daddy. He has two cats, Lady Macbeth of 238 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,759 course and Mango. But you mentioned the fact that extra 239 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:42,600 weight on a dog a cat can do some body 240 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,559 no good for the joints. What do you mean by that? 241 00:11:44,759 --> 00:11:48,399 And how do you avoid crash dieting in a dog 242 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,039 or a cat. 243 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,639 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing I think. Now, I'm not an 244 00:11:52,639 --> 00:11:56,639 expert in psychiatry, but I think Barba krasdye dieting is 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,879 mental and we are lucky enough, for the most part, 246 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,240 to be in complete control of every calorie that enters 247 00:12:04,639 --> 00:12:05,720 your pet's little body. 248 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not taking the car keys and going through 249 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,159 McDonald's and saying supersize me, right, right? 250 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,879 Speaker 4: And if they do that, film it and you'll make 251 00:12:12,919 --> 00:12:14,080 a ton of money offle I. 252 00:12:14,159 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: Goold answer, could answer, Okay, so we can control what 253 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,679 goes in their mouth, right. 254 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 4: I've always said I wish I had a giant vending 255 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,200 machine that only dispensed the calories that I needed for 256 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:27,559 the day, so it wasn't on me. Okay, you can 257 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,039 be very calculated with it. You can see, okay, Fluffy 258 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,039 has gained weight on X amount of calories. If you 259 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,440 need help figuring out how many calories you're feeding them, 260 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,159 work with your veterinarian. Take away twenty twenty or twenty 261 00:12:40,159 --> 00:12:43,480 five percent. Weigh them again in a month, see if 262 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,120 that number's gone down, or see a veterinarian in a month, 263 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,879 have an exam again, see if their body's feeling better. 264 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:51,919 Speaker 1: When you're at an ideal weight. Not only as a 265 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:55,600 dog or cats strutting really good, but what's happening to 266 00:12:55,759 --> 00:12:58,559 their body systems like their heart, their lungs, their liver, 267 00:12:58,639 --> 00:12:59,840 if they're at a good weight. 268 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,919 Speaker 4: When they're at a good weight, of course, it just 269 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,039 helps with everything. High levels of fat content can really 270 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:08,039 have a negative impact on the liver. Yeah, dogs, I 271 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,720 manage where we have to get them on a severely 272 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:15,639 restricted fat fat restricted diet where and they're at the 273 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:18,840 point where any fat that enters their system is not getting. 274 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,919 Speaker 3: Metabolized in a good way. 275 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:24,919 Speaker 4: So liver disease is big, and in cats mostly inducing diabetes. 276 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:26,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, not fun. 277 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: And there's something in the air. I've had at least 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 four newly diabetic cats in the past month. 279 00:13:32,519 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: Are you kidding? 280 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:33,799 Speaker 4: Huh? 281 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: What do you think Is it them eating too much 282 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,879 corn and the meal and the diet. What do you 283 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:40,279 think could be causing that? 284 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 4: While of arms is a bell carbohydrate intake, people expect 285 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,679 dry food to be lowering calories than canned food because 286 00:13:47,879 --> 00:13:50,159 it looks it and canned food just kind of looks 287 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,679 more palatable. But it's the other way around. So those 288 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,240 cats that have dry food out for them all the time, 289 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,159 they're the ones at risk, the ones that just go 290 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,960 to the dry food that's constantly available. Blood sugar goes up. 291 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,799 As your blood sugar goes up, you need insulince bring 292 00:14:04,799 --> 00:14:07,519 that blood sugar into the cells to give those cells 293 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,240 that energy. Because the blood sugar is so high all 294 00:14:10,279 --> 00:14:12,399 the time, the cells are just getting way too much 295 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:15,720 of that sugar, so they downregulate and they stop paying 296 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:18,759 attention to the insulin. And that's what makes you diabetic. 297 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: And when it comes to cats and dogs, doctor Torcia, 298 00:14:22,279 --> 00:14:24,440 cats don't really want to tell you they're feeling bad, 299 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,320 do they. They don't emote. They wouldn't be a good 300 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,320 actor in Shakespeare like a dog would. 301 00:14:29,159 --> 00:14:33,519 Speaker 4: Be right, Absolutely agree, absolutely, I mean sometimes full transparency. 302 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:35,120 I look at my cat and I think you, okay, 303 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,200 is everything Okay? I mean it is. But because I 304 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,799 do annual screening, I take them in get blow work done. 305 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,399 In cats, it's so important to test their urine as 306 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:48,919 well when you're doing gloodwork. So important because okay, what are. 307 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: You finding, good doctor when you do a urine draw 308 00:14:52,519 --> 00:14:54,720 out of the bladder or you take a blood draw 309 00:14:55,039 --> 00:14:57,960 Because for us mere mortals, we're like, well, Casey my 310 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,799 cat and ConA my dog. They're not tell where they're 311 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,679 aching or hurting. But what do you see in those 312 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,399 really vital annual blood in urine test. 313 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,519 Speaker 4: I could talk to you about this for three hours. 314 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: There so many things, everybody, this is going to be 315 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:15,480 a really extended episode. 316 00:15:15,559 --> 00:15:18,799 Speaker 4: What stay here, but tell us a. 317 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,639 Speaker 1: Few things that you, as a veterinarian, need to make 318 00:15:21,639 --> 00:15:24,840 sure people understand the importance of an annual physical that 319 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,559 includes the blood and urine work. 320 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,679 Speaker 4: I think the point I would drive home more than 321 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,559 anything is lab testing. I feel is almost most beneficial 322 00:15:34,919 --> 00:15:39,159 when you get it in succession. Okay, we've got breeds 323 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,840 of dogs, breeds of cats, and we've taken all these 324 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:45,759 numbers we've gotten from what one hundred thousand lab tests 325 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:48,960 to tell us what their lab results should be. But 326 00:15:49,159 --> 00:15:52,159 all needs are so different. There's there's so many differences 327 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:54,720 between them. So just because we have a range for 328 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:57,679 a dog doesn't mean your dog is normal when their 329 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:00,759 values are within that normal range. So if I see 330 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:04,879 your dog with a nice low kidney value below one, 331 00:16:05,039 --> 00:16:07,480 and then your dog goes up to what's considered normal 332 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,759 at one point five, that might be abnormal for your dog. 333 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:16,039 So really, yearly successional love work so important, so you 334 00:16:16,039 --> 00:16:17,120 can see the trends. 335 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. And you're in New 336 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:22,320 York City. I love New York City. I've actually been 337 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,200 there on events where years ago, I took my husky 338 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:30,440 from California to New York City to do some media 339 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:34,639 work and Chipper, the husky mix, was so excited because 340 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:37,200 she got to pee and poop in Central Park. What 341 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,600 are dogs like in the Big Apple? I mean they're 342 00:16:39,799 --> 00:16:43,320 with tons of other dogs, tons of other people. Walking 343 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,840 Does a dog good? Doesn't it? 344 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 4: Walking? Does it the dog good? Does it human good? 345 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: Too? 346 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,559 Speaker 4: But I actually so, I'm from countryside Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Amishtown, 347 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,120 and I located here and I kind of think that 348 00:16:57,159 --> 00:16:59,679 the dogs here get a bit more exercise because we 349 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,440 have to. That's a good point active that we don't 350 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,440 just open the back door and they just go outside 351 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,920 and then sit at the back door and wait to 352 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,400 come back in. Some dogs will run around and enjoy themselves, 353 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,400 but here it's like, all right, every morning, I'm getting up, 354 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,519 I'm taking them to the dog park. There's going to 355 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,359 be our little play group of dogs that they're going 356 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,880 to interact with. And that way you're knowing that they 357 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,359 get more exercise, and you're there and you witness it. 358 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,519 Speaker 1: When you're walking a dog on a leash in New 359 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,000 York City, I know there's a lot of stuff on 360 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:31,720 the ground, litter, I've heard marijuana joints. I've heard nothing 361 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:34,480 with poison. Put in a hot dog to kill the rat. 362 00:17:34,599 --> 00:17:37,400 Good luck with getting the rats out of New York City. 363 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,640 So is there any tips you can give people when 364 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,599 they're leashwalking a dog to keep them from seeing you 365 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:44,200 as an emergency visit? 366 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 4: Of course I would love for you to not have 367 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:52,039 to come in visit. Retractable leashes are not the best option. 368 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: And please, thank you good doctor. 369 00:17:54,039 --> 00:17:57,759 Speaker 4: Tell everybody why mind backgrounds an emergency spent five years 370 00:17:57,799 --> 00:18:02,279 doing emergency overnights in New York City, and the amount 371 00:18:02,279 --> 00:18:04,920 of times I've seen a broken retractable leash or a 372 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,200 retractable leash where you just didn't get that button down 373 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,480 and your dog runs into another dog that wasn't prepared 374 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:13,559 for that. Mount of times i've seen that come into 375 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,720 the er I can't even tell you so running out 376 00:18:16,759 --> 00:18:19,640 into the street, or the cord breaks from it, the 377 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,759 mechanism breaks. So no retractable leashes. You have more control 378 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:24,640 with a shorter, stronger leash. 379 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: Okay, what are you doing when you're walking your dog 380 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,599 in the streets of New York City? I hope you're 381 00:18:30,599 --> 00:18:32,839 going to tell them not to be looking at. 382 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 4: Their while walking exactly, get off yourself. Oh, I used 383 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,480 to have a video of a dog. Of course I 384 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,960 immediately came up and gently, politely no. But I had 385 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,960 a video of a dog where two New Yorkers were 386 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,400 walking their dogs and they knew each other and they stopped. 387 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:55,000 He was in ninety degree August weather, and they stopped 388 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,680 and they were talking and you can see their dogs 389 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,640 dancing because the sidewalk was so hot. And I just 390 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,640 sat a quick video and I walked up and showed 391 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:06,200 them politely, really honestly. Yeah, so grateful because of course 392 00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,960 you just pay attention to them, don't sit on your phone, 393 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,079 just you're there with your dog, and it's like such 394 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:13,319 a special bombs that you get to spend time with 395 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,279 your dog. So give them that time. 396 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: So where are some fun places you see dogs being 397 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,480 walked in the city. We obviously have Central Park, but 398 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,039 is there any other gems that people could take their dogs. 399 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,279 Speaker 4: There are parks scattered all around New York, dog parks 400 00:19:28,279 --> 00:19:30,960 specifically because there's definitely a need for them, and there's 401 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,599 even the ones that you might not immediately see, like 402 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,480 there are areas and high rises that are designated for 403 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,640 dogs to be off leash, things like that. So if 404 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,720 you just look around to do a little Google search 405 00:19:41,799 --> 00:19:43,759 in your area, I bet you'll find something within about 406 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:44,559 five blocks. 407 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: So what is some tips you can give for people 408 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,799 before they take that dog into a dog park? What 409 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,640 should they do to pay attention to the vibe? 410 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: Great question. I would say this is honestly across all 411 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,039 of America as something as you know about, but staying 412 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,599 up to date on vaccines, I think it it feels 413 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:02,799 a little bit more foreign to people because dogs get 414 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:06,240 vaccinated more frequently than people do in general. Right, and 415 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:10,160 think about their exposure, and their faces are in the ground, 416 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,759 their paws are bare. 417 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: They're looking butts. Come on, you can say that they're 418 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,000 eating things that came out the south end. 419 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: Right exactly, And so specifically leptospherosis is we've had just 420 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:28,680 serial upticks in leptosporosis. After twenty twenty, we had more 421 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,640 of a rat outbreak in New York City. Leptosporosis is 422 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,759 spread a lot through the urine of rodents. So rats and. 423 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: Mindy, that's something the dog can give to you, right. 424 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:40,160 What about bordetella bordetella. 425 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: I probably treat bordertella every week, so like most vaccines, 426 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,680 like almost all vaccines, you still at risk of contracting 427 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,240 this disease. But again, like most vaccines, the life threatening 428 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:55,599 portion is mostly relieved when you have a vaccine. So 429 00:20:55,799 --> 00:20:58,119 instead of getting this full pneumonia where they have to 430 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,440 be hostilized in an oxygen tank, which is the way 431 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,279 that we provide oxygen to dogs if we need to 432 00:21:03,279 --> 00:21:06,440 hospitalize them, you might have a little cold and that 433 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:07,400 you can handle it. 434 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, Well what about cats? What are some 435 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,720 must have vaccines, and people go, well, my cat only 436 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:17,400 lives in the house. My cat will be bulletproof against 437 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,720 any diseases. Boloney right, It is. 438 00:21:20,759 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 4: Not entirely true. When I come in from a long day, 439 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,880 or if I come in from work, I actually don't 440 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,759 interact with my cats until in the hamper, I shower 441 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,160 and change. Just because you can bring things in on 442 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,640 your clothes, it feels like you but this their live 443 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,559 respiratory stuff can be brought in on your clothes. 444 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: I bet Lady Macbeth and Mango are very grateful that 445 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,400 you groom yourself very well like a cat. 446 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:44,759 Speaker 4: I hope that. 447 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Did you hear that you don't bring cooties in? But 448 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:51,319 what about toys and cats. I've been to some homes, 449 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,640 doctor Torchower, I'm like, I want to be that cat. 450 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,359 They seem to have a zillion toys. But what's a 451 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,519 good way of using toys with the purpose to bring 452 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,160 play with the purpose for a cat? 453 00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 454 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: I love that being smart about what toy you choose. 455 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: For sure. 456 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: I don't like really long, stringy things because they can 457 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,480 be risky. I don't like to try to make them 458 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:15,599 have these huge bursts of energy. I mean they are okay, 459 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,359 twenty three hours of stagnant, and then you ask them 460 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,920 to sprint. So I keep it gentle at first, and 461 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,799 then okay, more activity. If you're going to do something 462 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,200 like a laser pointer. It's not exactly our favorite toy 463 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:33,680 for cats because you need to not foster this frustration 464 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,440 that they can have when they literally can't flavor poinner. 465 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: No one can, and they can't touch it right. So 466 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,960 it'd be like you want a glass of wine and 467 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,599 the glass becomes invisible. 468 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,799 Speaker 4: I can't even think about that. 469 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: Okay, But what's something tactle that they can do. What 470 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,400 do you do with Lady Macbeth and Manga when they 471 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,079 get ready to get some exercise. 472 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:52,599 Speaker 3: Oh? 473 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: I love obstacles. I love setting up obstacles. They want 474 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,559 to play around something. They want to play underneath the 475 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:02,960 frame or a door. They want to play. They want 476 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,400 to be in the box and be jumping out of 477 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,559 the box. It kind of mimics their natural instinct, right 478 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:10,359 they would They crouch, they hide, and then they pounce. 479 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:12,160 So I give them that opportunity. 480 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: We have one little air at last area before we 481 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,160 let you go and save lives. I should do down 482 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,200 in the mouth what's the deal about doggy breath even 483 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,079 in a cat, And why should we not just say, well, 484 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,200 that's just them. 485 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,519 Speaker 4: Right, I mean, the deal is it's they should have 486 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:28,960 their teeth brush just like we should. And we go 487 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,599 to the dentist every six months. We brush hopefully twice 488 00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:33,480 a day, flossing two and. 489 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 3: I do ring. 490 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: And I don't think I didn't know that when I 491 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:40,200 was a kid, I didn't know that. I just thought 492 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,960 dog breath smelled. Yeah, you learned a lot. I got 493 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,279 a couple tips, So that abrasive teeth brush, I don't 494 00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:48,480 start with it. If you're gonna start brushing your teeth cat, 495 00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:51,160 use something or brushing your teeth cat burthering your cat's 496 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,680 steef or your dog's teeth. Start with something soft and easy, 497 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:56,960 just a quick little brush with a paper towel that 498 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,240 has toothpaste on it. One, two, three, and you can 499 00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:01,400 write right up to a toothbrush. But just get them 500 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,920 used to it at first, having a veterinarian take a 501 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,079 look into their mouth and talk to you about whether 502 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:10,359 it's necessary to do it. Anesthetized dental cleaning that can 503 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,240 be super important as well. And then my final tip 504 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,599 is the Veterinary Oral Health Council. 505 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,599 Speaker 1: All right, VOHC, say it loud, say it proud, BOHC. 506 00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:21,799 All right, that should be on the label. 507 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: Right. 508 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 4: Yes, they have VOC approved products that you can find 509 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,359 on their website. I've sent at least ten thousand people 510 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,480 to them. They're sold well. 511 00:24:31,799 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: Some people may not be coordinated enough to put one 512 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,599 of those fingerbrushes on. There are some enzymes out there, 513 00:24:39,079 --> 00:24:41,759 and there's some lickable things. It seems like this is 514 00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,359 an age where more attention's being paid to oral health 515 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:48,720 by veterinarians for dogs and cats. So there are some 516 00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:49,920 other options, right. 517 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,519 Speaker 4: Yes, there's water additives, there's shoes that release that enzyme 518 00:24:53,759 --> 00:24:56,559 as well, powders you can put on the food. They're 519 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:59,799 all good. Well, it does correlate to their systemic health. 520 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: It does. I can't believe our it goes by so fast. 521 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,279 But Broadway show that you've been going to go to, 522 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:09,559 and is it a Shakespeare one? You're a theater major. 523 00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:13,039 Speaker 4: I'm going to go see Sunset Boulevard tomorrow, all right, 524 00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:16,319 the classic classic movie that I highly recommend. 525 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,519 Speaker 1: What is your favorite Shakespeare play? 526 00:25:18,839 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: I would say The Tempest and why because it was 527 00:25:21,279 --> 00:25:22,000 the final one. 528 00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: And do you have a favorite Shakespeare quote? I always 529 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,279 want to say nice play bill Shakespeare. Sorry, that was 530 00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:31,119 my bad pun okay quote. 531 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,839 Speaker 4: That's a tough one, you know. I can't think of 532 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:36,720 a specific Shakespeare quote that really sings to me. 533 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: Well, mine was Beware of Jealousy? My son 'tis the 534 00:25:40,559 --> 00:25:42,480 green Eyed Monster? Do you know what that's from? 535 00:25:43,079 --> 00:25:43,839 Speaker 4: Is that problem? 536 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: I think that's Iago? And does the moona? What is 537 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,319 the play? 538 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,079 Speaker 4: I think you're more of a Shakespeare fan than I am. 539 00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I just had a really cool high school teacher years ago, 540 00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,759 mister Gordon, who would act out Shakespeare plays in Crompoint 541 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,119 High School in Indiana, and I was like, what is 542 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200 wrong with this man? And he made it so fun. 543 00:26:05,599 --> 00:26:08,720 But you love Shakespeare? You named your cat after a 544 00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:12,359 main character. Any party message you want to give, Doctor 545 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,279 Torcha to our pet pals tuning. 546 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: In absolutely, if you're in the New York area, please 547 00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:20,079 come down the heart of Chelsea. Really want to create 548 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,480 a partnership with pet parents. Be there to whatever capacity 549 00:26:23,559 --> 00:26:24,200 you need us to be. 550 00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: And how do we find you? What's the site? 551 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 4: What website part of Chelsea dot com? 552 00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: That's too easy, Doctor Andrew Torcha. You put up with me. 553 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:34,759 Thank you, and thank you for all you do for 554 00:26:34,839 --> 00:26:37,880 dogs and cats in the Big Apple and beyond. 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