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Speaker 1: The following presentation is Del Marvis Studio's production. You're listening

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to the Fact Hunter Radio Network. Here is your host,

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Steuge Hubbs.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time

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for yet another edition of our classic audio series. As

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we record this, we're less than twenty four hours away

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from the twenty fourth anniversary of nine to eleven. Tonight,

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we revisit David ray Griffin's powerful lecture entitled the nine

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to eleven Commission Report, Omissions and Distortions, where he challenges,

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of course, the official narrative and exposes what he argues

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are clearing gaps, huge contradictions, and deliberate cover ups. Without

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any further ado, here is the great David ray Griffin.

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Speaker 3: We are fortunate to have with us today, a courageous

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scholar who asks these important questions in a clear, logical

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and dispassionate tone. Please join me in welcoming David ray Griffin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I was just going to ask if you

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want to stand up for fifteen seconds and have your opportunity. Well,

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I'm pleased to be able to say, Paul, I've actually

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finished the book now, so it should be out in

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about six weeks. I hope with regard to our topic today,

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truth and politics. Some people may wonder people maybe outside

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this room, but is there anything in the nine to

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eleven Commission report that is under true? And now that

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I've finished the book, my big question is can I

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find a true sentence in the book? That may sound extreme,

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but if you don't take it too literally, and if

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you realize a sentence is a part of a paragraph,

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which is a part of the argument, then it is

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hard to find any truth there. And so what I'm

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going to do this afternoon is just go through and

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give you some examples. But to get an idea of

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my audience, how many people here have read some of

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the nine to eleven Commission report? About half of you?

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And now also let me ask, and no grading on this,

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no going to purgatory, but how many have read some

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of my book at least? Oh? Well? Well, great, okay,

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a group gets an a One thing to understand about

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the report is that, you know, we quite often name

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commissions after the leader. So we had the Rumsfeldt Commission

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on the space program so on, So quite often this

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is called the Kine Commission, but it should be called

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the Kane Zelikow Commission because the executive director is Philip Zelikow.

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He was a member of the Bush one administration. He

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got to know Condalisa Rice very well there. They both

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served on the National Security Council when they were between

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administrations during the Clinton years, they wrote a book together.

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When the Bush two administration was coming into power, she

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brought him on to help with the transition, and then

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he was appointed to the Foreign Advisory Board for so

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he is essentially a member of the Boush White House.

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And yet as executive director he ran the Commission. He

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had a staff of seventy some He assigned them which

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topics were worth looking into and which ones were not.

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He assigned. When people would come and say, I want

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to testify to the Commission. I have something important to say,

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he would decide who would take that testimony, and so on.

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Let me get an example, just one tiny example of

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how important that is. There's a new book out by

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Peter Lance called Cover Up and Peter Good Patriot that

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he is went to testify because he had some important

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information about Ramsey Yusef, remember the masterminded the nineteen ninety

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three bombing of the World Trade Center. He was also

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the mastermind of the Bojinka project that they discovered in Manila.

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And he also was the one who came up with

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plans idea of using planes for weapons, so he is

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the mastermind. Peter went to give testimony, and his testimony

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was going to contradict some of the things that showed

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up that were in the prosecution's case in nineteen ninety

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six when they prosecuted Ramsey Yusef who took Peter Lance's testimony,

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Dietrich Schnell one of the two prosecutors of that you

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have that trial. So that is an example of how

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the executive director could skew. And Peter said he got

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a mole inside the Commission, somebody who was very unhappy

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on the staff, who was unhappy with the way things

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were going. And they would meet and he would tell

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Peter what was going on. And he said that Zeleikal

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just runs the whole commission. That there are these leadership teams,

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and and six out of the seventeams, he said, are

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completely controlled by Zelikal. Only one team, run by John Farmer,

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was not and they were butting heads all the time.

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There are other examples, like at the Commission report, people

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would say tell us about the wargames, and they would

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ask the commissioners, why didn't you deal with the wargames

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and the commissioner said, oh, well we were told that

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was unimportant. Well by whom were they told. So you

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essentially have the nine to eleven commission. It's the White

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House investigating itself. And furthermore, as Peter points out, the staff.

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You know, you think, oh, they got a staff there.

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It's a bunch of people who know how to do research.

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If probably you know, university students and so no x FBI,

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x CIA, X Department of Justice, nine members from the

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Department of Justice. Ashcroft. Yeah, so they've got their friends

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back on there. So when you wonder why are no

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names named, got people on there protecting their friends, protecting

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their institutions that they're still proud of, or they want

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to have the public to have a good point. So

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from the very beginning, this was a doomed commission. It

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was not a commission to get the truth. Once you

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realize that these things won't shock you quite as much.

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But even then, even knowing that, I was still shocked

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at the number of omissions and the audacity of some

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of the distortions. So let me go through these some

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of these, starting right out on the very first pages,

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they start telling you about the hijackers. What they don't

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tell you and they give you the names, and in

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the middle of the book you can see their pictures.

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What they don't tell you is that six, at least

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six of those men are still alive. Some of them have,

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like Wally Shira, walked into the embassy and here I am.

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I'm not dead, nevertheless, and some of them were interviewed

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by the BBC and London newspapers and nevertheless they're in there.

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And this Wally Shier, they have him on flight eleven

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and they say, we believe he's one of the ones

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who stabbed some of the people who were stabbed. Just

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a total disregard of well known facts, just omit that

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there's any problem with the identity of the hijackers. Likewise,

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they failed to mention Daniel Hopsiker has written a whole

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book about Muhammadada shown he was not a devout Muslim.

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You know, the image we have here are these radical

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fundamentalists Muslims. They're ready to meet their maker. Auta loved alcohol,

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pork and prostitutes. And the Commission says, we're puzzled. These

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guys go to Las Vegas. We've not found any credible reason. Well,

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they loved lap Dan says. You know, another hijacker, alleged

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hijacker is Honey Honjour, and they tell us he was

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chosen to fly Fight seventy seven, the one that was

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going to hit the Pentagon, because he was their best pilot.

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Honey Honjour could not fly any kind of airplane. He

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would go up in his lessons and the next time

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the guy wouldn't go up with him. He says, you

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can't fly. He was known as a horrible pilot, even

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with a little plane, and yet he was alleged to

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fly this Boeing seventy seven seven fifty seven and make

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this amazing spiral, come down and come in at ground

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level four hundred miles an hour into the Pentagon. You know,

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the best pilots in the world, some of them have

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looked at that and said, I don't think I could

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do that. Honey h juror could not fly this. When

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they do mention it's money thing. They mentioned this and

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then they just ignore it, and they have President Bush

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a maze. You know, boy, this was some pilot. You

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know the flight manifest We've never publicly seen flight manifest

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that show that any of the So it's not just

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the six. We don't know that any of the nineteen

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men named or actually on these flights. None of this

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is mentioned, is not mentioned and refuted, is just not mentioned.

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So that's why I call it omissions, and some people

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call it the nine to eleven omission commission. Let me

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give another example, the World Trade Center. They hardly discuss

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the question of these enormous buildings coming down. They don't

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discuss any of the problems. One problem is, never before

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in history have steel framed high rise buildings collapsed because

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of fire. Now, some people said, well, one just fire,

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these big planes hit on Well, people have looked at this.

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That's insignificant. Besides, no plane hit Building number seven, which

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is a forty seven story skyscraper and it came down. Also, Furthermore,

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even if you were going to have fire weak in

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the building would have to be enormous fires. They would

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have to be very hot, not ordinary hydrocarbon fires that

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you get from kerosene, which is what jet fuel is,

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and they would have to be very long lasting. These

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fires didn't last. That South Tower came down in fifty

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seven minutes, an enormous number amount of steel in one

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hundred and ten story building that is steel framed inside

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and outside, and yet they're telling us the now. The

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only thing they mentioned here they mentioned that South tower

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collapsed in ten seconds. Can you imagine how fire would

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bring down one hundred and ten story building in free

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fall speed? And that's what it is. Also, the wrong

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tower collapsed first. The North tower was hit first, and

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so if it's fire that's bringing it down, it takes

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a while for the fire to heat up the steel.

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The North tower should have collapsed first. The South tower

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also had a much smaller fire because the plane hit

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it at the angle at the corner, and so most

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of the fuel went outside and burned up. So that

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enormous fireball you see, You say, boy, what an enormous fire, Well, yeah,

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for about fifteen seconds and it's burnt up, and so

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there's not much fuel to keep the fire going in

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the South tower, and yet it collapses within fifty seven minutes.

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They one of the places whether where you just know

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they're absolutely lying and cheating, is they give you an

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account that makes it sound plausible that these towers could

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have come down they tell you that in the core

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of each building was a hollow shaft that was just

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filled with elevators and staircases. Yeah, and forty seven massive

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steel columns. That's what the world trade these buildings were

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all about. This was this unique structure at the time,

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these forty seven massive steel things going up into the air,

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so massive at the bottom. So even if you accepted

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the official theory, which is a pancake theory, that somehow

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the connectors between the columns in the middle and then

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the peripheral beams around the building, somehow those snapped and

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then the floors came down, and that floor was so

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heavy it hit the NT just going down. Can you

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imagine that having ten seconds? And even if it did,

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it's just like if in the old records when the

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records fell on the spindle, and those of you who

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are old enough to remember those, the spindle's still there.

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So why aren't those forty seven towers still sticking up

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in the air, but the pictures show that they totally collapse.

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You have something that's no more than three stories high.

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You should have had. I mean, it just total dishonesty

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to deny the existence of those massive columns and then

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they don't even mention that building number seven collapsed. There's

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not a word about it. Everybody admits there is no

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explanation for why building number seven collapsed. In most cities,

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this would have been one of the This had been

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the biggest building, forty seven stories high. It can be

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ignored only because it was next to the towers. And

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FEMA says they come up with this lame explanation of

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how this building came down. They said, the only explanation

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we can come up with has a very low probability

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of occurrence. That there's no answer. So rather than telling you,

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like an honest report would we're surprised, we're puzzled why

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building number seven collapsed. There's no good answer. They just

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don't even mention that it collapsed. They don't tell you that.

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Larry Silverstein, the owner virtually of the building and the

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builder of it, said on a PBS station report, well,

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at a certain point, the fire chief and I got

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together and we said, you know, there's been so much

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loss of life, let's not take any chances, and we

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decided to pull it. Maybe this smartest things to do

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us is pullet And they made that decision to pull

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the pullet is the slang for bringing it down by

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control demolition. So he admits it in public. It's it's

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well known in you know, it's mentioned in any like

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my book and other books, and all the books that

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people sent to the commission, assuming they wanted to know

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the truth, and they don't mention, they don't bring in

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Larry Silverstein and said, why did you say that? What

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do you mean by that? Isn't that what a commission

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looking for the truth might do? Likewise, Juliani said, we

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knew that the towers were going to collapse, so we

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got the people out of building number seven. How did

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he know? The tower buildings have never collapsed before in history?

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How could have he known twin towers are going to collapse.

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hero when he comes into the commission. They fell all

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over themselves praising Rudy Giuliani as the great hero they meant.

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So what I'm getting at here, those of you who

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haven't read it, is that the all three collapses were

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pretty close to classic examples of what they call control demolition,

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when when dynamite or some kind of explosives are placed

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throughout the building at all the crucial points, and then

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they put them on a computer and they bring them

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down in a certain order, and therefore the building comes

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straight down so it doesn't fall on these other buildings,

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and they come down in virtually free fall speed. And

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that's what happened here, all three buildings. You can see

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him on all sorts of places on the website. You

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don't see him on TV anymore. They showed him the

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first night, and Dan rather you know, bless his soul,

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comes right out and blurts out the truth. He says, oh,

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that looks just like controlled demolition. The nine to eleven

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Commission also does not tell you that Marvin Bush, President's

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brother and their cousin word Walker, were the principles of

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the company that was in charge of security for the

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World Trade Center. They don't man all sorts of coincidences here.

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They also don't tell you that there were many reports

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of people who worked in the building saying, you know,

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we got a shutdown order, so for three days we

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couldn't go in the World Trade Center. There there were

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engineers coming in and out. We didn't know what okay.

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Moving right along to the Pentagon, they don't tell you

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that they do mention that it was the west wing

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of the Pentagon that was hit. They don't mention that

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for terrorists who wanted to really strike a blow at

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the Pentagon, the west wing was the least likely part

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to hit. Why because all the big brass are in

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the east wing. That's where Rumsfeld and all the general

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the top generals are. Furthermore, the west wing was being renovated,

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so it was reinforced so the fire wouldn't spread to

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the rest of the building. Also, there were very few

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people there, and so although it's tragic that one hundred

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and twenty five people on the ground were killed, several

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thousand would have been killed if the plane had hit

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any other well, if it had been a plane, we'll

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come to that later if but even what it was,

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it would have killed several hundred and maybe thousand if

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it had been an ordinary place. And also terrorists would

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want to kill Pentagon workers. Most of the people killed

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were civilians who were there working on their renovation. Furthermore,

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as I said, you had to do, it was the

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hardest place of the Pentagon to hit. You've got this

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huge Pentagon here with acres. All you had to do

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was fly right into the ceiling, right into the roof,

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and you would have done you couldn't have missed. Even

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Honey Honjura could have hit it. And all you had

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to do is hit the east wing. And you know,

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remember how smart these terrorists were, These were masterminds, and

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yet they didn't know that the west wing wasn't where

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you would want to hit. Furthermore, the facade even though

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it was hit by a Boeing seven fifty this official

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story Boeing seven to fifty seven, going four hundred miles

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an hour, got a wingspan of one hundred and twenty

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five feet, got these enormous engines on it, got a

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tail that makes the plane forty feet high. It didn't

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knock the facade down for a half hour. The facade

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stood after being hit by the plane for a half

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hour before it fell down. Photographs were taken by Marines

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and other military people and Tom Hern of the Associated Press.

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They show you that the hole that was created by

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this Boeing seven to fifty seven was about twenty feet

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in diameter. Twenty feet in diameter, that's big enough to

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get the nose of Boeing inside. So there ought to

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be a Boeing sitting out there in front Tom Herran's pictures.

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Other pictures show there's no Boeing. This French researcher Terry

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Masson has a website called Hunt the Boeing, and he

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shows all these photographs. Hey, look outside, no Boeing. Well

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let's go inside. So they asked ed Plower, the fire

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chief who was in charge of putting out what'd you

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see in there? Ed this with the depending on press

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conference the next day. He obviously hadn't been coached, and

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he said, no big pieces of anything, no fuselage, no,

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you know, nothing like that. And then two other people

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get up, one of them was the head of the

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renovation project and said, yeah, no big pieces of anything.

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Nothing's sticking up in the air. A Boeing seven fifty

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seven is pretty big. Why don't they just release the

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videos and show us. You know, there are cameras there,

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camera's on hotels next door, there's a camera in the

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gas station across the street. All I have to do

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is show us the videos and you can prove it

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was a Boeing seven and fifty seven. No, they didn't

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show us any They finally, after Terry Mason came out

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with his theory, that it wasn't a Boeing but a missile.

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They released five frames that they said proved it. Some

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people have looked at those frames and said, that's when

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I became a skeptic, because that was not a Boeing,

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even though they tried to make it look like it. Furthermore,

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this video that was across the street. Within five minutes

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of the attack, the FBI was over there and confiscated it.

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You would think the FBI would be distraught. Hey, for

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the first time in history the Pentagon has been hit. No,

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they had the presence of mind to get in their

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cars and drive over there and confiscate the video. We've

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never seen it. Nine to eleven Commission, of course, doesn't

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mention any of this. How could a Boeing a commercial

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airliner attack the Pentagon? Wouldn't you have batteries of missiles

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surrounding the Pentagon so that any airplane that doesn't have

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a military transponder radiating friendly friendly friendly would be shot down.

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Of course, that's exactly the situation. And yet whatever it

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was that hit the Pentagon goes right through. Batteries are

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not opera back then, one of the mostest honest things

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in the Commission report. Is that actually bring this up

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because one of the criticisms have been these flights that

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were going to New York, they passed by one of

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the biggest nuclear plants right along the river there. All

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they had to do was attack that. That would have

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caused far more devastation than any of these attacks on

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the World Trade Center. It would have killed hundreds of

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thousands of people, poisoned, you know, poisoned the area, made

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ruin the economy of the United States, if that's what

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these terrorists wanted to do because they hate freedom and democracy.

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But they didn't. They flew right over and hit the

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World Trade Center. So what does the nine to eleven

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Commission tell you, Well, they have this guy named they

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call him Kosm, you know, colleague Sheik Muhammad, and they've

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captured him. They tell us, well, he's this font of

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information and they just they just say anything they want

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to and they say, this is what KSM told us.

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We have no way of checking this. They just tell us,

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you know, he was the mastermind. So so what he

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told him was, well, yeah, we thought about hitting a

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nuclear plant, but you know, we said, you know, they

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probably guarded, they probably have missiles around there, we'd probably

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get shot down, So let's go hit the Pentagon. It's surely,

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and I hate to say it, I'm not making this up.

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So when you hear that this report is the number

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one best seller of the year, and also you go

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on Amazon and look at the reports, the ratings, customer ratings. Least,

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the last time I looked, nine out of ten were

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five stars. People are saying, now we know the truth,

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and yet this is comic book stuff. When you know

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what the truth is, you know, you know all these

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other reports that they've ignored. It's almost comic book writing.

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Just know that's not true. This is true. How do

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we know it, Well because Kasm told us, or because

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we have this transcript. But of course it will be

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put in the vault for fifty years and you'll never

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be able to sit it. With the Warren Commission, they

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published all the supporting documents. Whatever you can say about

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the Warden commis, you can say a lot about the

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Warren Commission, you know. And Max Clayland said, I'm not

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going to be part of another Warren Commission cover up.

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He wasn't. The President got him a job, another job,

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and so you got Max Cleland off the Commission, and

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so you got to you got a unified report. They're

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very proud we published this without dissent. They just give

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you all these reports. And yet they in the notes

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in the back, and these are authoritative. And yet there's

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nothing that you can go to to check these reports

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because they're in the hands of the FBI or they're

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in the hands of other people. You can't check out

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anything they say. Unlike the Warrant Commission. At least you

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could see the testimony. Okay, uh, President Bush on nine

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to eleven. You would think, you know, we've seen these

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movies about the Secret Service. These guys are really highly trained,

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and if there's the slightest danger to the president, they

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get in front of him. If there's the slightest danger

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that this this route is not good, you change the route,

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and so on and so on. Here's the president down

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in theirsota in the classroom, and of course a lot

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of you have seen that in the Michael Moore movie.

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And he sits there, and he sits there, and he

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sits there. After they've told him about the second tower

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after the first tower was hit. He says, oh boy,

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what a horrible accident. So they just go on like, oh,

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this is a little plane and it flew in. But

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after the second one there could be no doubt. But

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America was under a terrorist attack. I mean, given the

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official story, could be no doubt about that. So why

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didn't the Secret Service whisk him out of there? Because

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if these were terrorists and they wanted to attack the

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symbols of America, what better target than the President of

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the United States.

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Speaker 4: If Olsama been I started to say, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not trying to put ideas in your mind, and I think,

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don't have to. Yeah, So the Secret Service would have

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immediately said we're next. We're going to be targeted next.

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They're there in an empty school, there are no there's

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no fighter cover over. The president is uncompletely unprotected. So

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the nine to eleven Commission said, well, we asked the

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Secret Service, why did you let the president stay there

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another half hour? And they said, well, we thought it

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would look bad if we got up and ran out

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of the room. Yeah, well, it would look bad if

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the president of United States got murdered on your watch

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because you didn't do your job too. But that and

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they accepted that, and like the only alternatives were get

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him up and rush him out, of the room like

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Cheney said they did to him. Could it be that

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they think Cheney's more important than Bush? No, no, let

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us not go there. That story about Cheney's probably apocryphal anyway,

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But that's what the Secret Service is supposed to do

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when there's a real danger. And yet there was no

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sign of danger. So they said, well, we didn't want

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to rush out of the room, so they left him

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there for thirty minutes. How about us something in between,

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like excuse us, the president must leave, he's been called

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to other duties, and you walk out of the room.

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So the Commission didn't press him on that. They just

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accepted that answer, and time and time again, I use

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that as an illustration. They accept the most, really the

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silliest answers from these authoritative figures, and very seldom do

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they press, and the few times they do press, it

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gets deleted from the final report. And that's the other

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thing to know about Zeleika. He was the editor, he

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was in charge of the final report, and so it's

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pretty consistent. I've only found two or three inconsistencies in

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the parts of the book that I've read, so it

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clearly had to be Finally, one mind who was in

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charge of this, and he's my candidate. Advanced warnings. No

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mention of the fact that Willie Brown was warned not

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to fly on an airplane that day. No discussion of

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why Ashcroft quit flying commercial planes suddenly. No mention that

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David Shippers. You remember David Shippers. He prosecuted President Clinton.

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You'd think he'd be very popular in Republican circles. And

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so if David Shippers called up Attorney General Ashcroft and says, hey,

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I've got a serious problem here. I've got some FBI

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agents who tell me there's going to be an attack

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on Lower Manhattan, and Ashcroft will not return his call.

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Week after week after week. Shippers tries repeatedly. These FBI agents,

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they said, we knew over a month ahead of time,

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the target and the day. Were they interviewed by the

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nine to eleven Commission. Let's see if these guys are reputable.

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Let's put them under lie detector tests. No, no mention whatsoever.

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The National Security Agency tells us that they, yes, they

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intercepted this message from KSM to Muhammadada on September tenth,

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giving him the go ahead to do the planes operation.

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But they said, we didn't get around to translating it

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until September twelfth, So of course we didn't know. Wouldn't

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you think maybe you would put somebody under a light

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detector and test and say, did you really not translate that? No,

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no mention of that. The put options, for those of

476
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,200
you don't know. To buy a put option, you're betting

477
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,200
that a company stock value is going to plummet, and

478
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,599
if you buy at the right time and then it

479
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,720
goes way down and you buy a lot of that stock,

480
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:14,160
you can make millions, tens of millions of dollars. So

481
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:18,119
an enormous number of put options were purchased on American Airlines,

482
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:24,680
United Airlines, and Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, which had twenty

483
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:29,119
two floors of the World Trade Center just the three

484
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,039
or four days prior to nine to eleven. So, first

485
00:32:33,119 --> 00:32:37,160
of all, the CIA monitors this stuff. So if they're

486
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,920
going to say no advance warning, here's the clearest sign

487
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,599
in the world that United and American Airlines are going

488
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,279
to be used to attack the World Trade Center? What

489
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,839
could be clearer. They don't discuss that. All they say is, well,

490
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,359
there's been a lot of hollabaloo about the put options,

491
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:59,279
but we checked it out and we found that this

492
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,000
was noted dance knowledge, because that's the accusation, of course,

493
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:06,759
that it was insider training, somebody trading, and somebody had

494
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:10,359
advanced knowledge. And they say no, because we found the

495
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,319
agency that bought ninety five percent of the United Airlines

496
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,319
share and it was somebody who had no conceivable connection

497
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:28,920
to al Qaeda. So you see the circular argument. The

498
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,240
official story is that the commission started with and ended

499
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,440
with is that the operation was pulled off entirely by

500
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:42,079
al Qaeda, and that nobody else knew about it. And

501
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:44,599
so if this guy didn't have a pipeline to al Qaeda,

502
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:52,400
he couldn't have. It was just a lucky guess. Osamavan Laden.

503
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,440
There were good, strong reports by Lefebuer, the Swiss journalists

504
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:03,920
that in July of two thousand and one Osama bin Laden,

505
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,160
who was known as you know, he was the black Sheep.

506
00:34:06,279 --> 00:34:09,960
He had been disowned by his own people and his

507
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,440
own family and the royal family, and he was the

508
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:17,400
number one wanted in the world. There was a what

509
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,480
was a ten million dollar reward or whatever it was

510
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,360
prior to nine to eleven, but he was the number

511
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,119
one person wanted in the world. The FIBUA says he

512
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,199
was stayed in the because of his kidney problems. He

513
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,719
went to the American hospital in Dubai in the United

514
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,800
Arab Emirates and was treated by an American doctor and

515
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,400
was visited by the local CI agent, visited by the

516
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:51,519
Saudi equivalent and members of the royal family. No mention

517
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:55,239
of this in the nine to eleven report. Do not

518
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,920
mention that the bin Laden family we got together for

519
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,119
weddings where Osama and all these people who had disowned

520
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:10,559
him got together. They do not mention that the British

521
00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:13,760
press decided that the whole hunt for Osama bin Laden

522
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,199
in Afghanistan was a charade. Remember this, when he was

523
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,480
in the Torbora Mountains and we were bombing this road

524
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,119
and yet somehow he escaped into Pakistan. They didn't tell

525
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,000
us that. Well, there were two roads and we only

526
00:35:27,039 --> 00:35:30,119
bombed one road and they went the other road. And

527
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:32,920
then you heard Carrie the other night pointing out that said,

528
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,800
we outsourced this job too. So rather than the US

529
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,920
military going after Ben Laden, no, no, we put under

530
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,679
the locals. Well the locals were probably in you know,

531
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,360
so they don't tell you about this story about Gerald

532
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:52,480
Posner tells in his book He's otherwise very orthodox about

533
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:58,119
nine to eleven. Let's called Hawaii American slap. He says

534
00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:02,840
that this guy Beda, who was one of the top

535
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,000
three or four al Qaeda people in the world, who

536
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:09,480
was captured. Then he was put under interrogation by CIA

537
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:13,000
guys pretending to be because they were Arabs, pretending to

538
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:16,239
be from Saudi Arabia. So he said, oh, great, my

539
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,280
own countrymen. Let me tell you, uh, just call these

540
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,800
he had these numbers from memory. He said, call these

541
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,800
members of the royal family and they'll tell you. I'm

542
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
the go between between the royal family and al Qaeda.

543
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,599
And they know all about this, so you know, be fine,

544
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,079
and the CIA agents and not after nine to eleven,

545
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:39,599
it won't because now all bets are off. They said,

546
00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:42,559
oh now, now they knew ahead of time, they knew

547
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,280
they were going to be attacks on nine to eleven.

548
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,960
It's no surprise to them. No mention of this. Now

549
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:50,239
Posner's story may be false, you know, he may be

550
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:56,000
an opportunist, and some people think he's just a lying person.

551
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:03,960
And no mention of it, even to refute it, which

552
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,239
you would think and remember in the first though of

553
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,400
you who read the book, reading the preface said our

554
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,320
intention was to give the fullest possible account of the

555
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,440
events surrounding nine eleven. Well, this would be part of

556
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:25,800
the fullest possible account. No mention of Saudi funding of

557
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,280
al Qaeda. Now, some of you maybe have read Bob

558
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,559
Graham's book. He reports that the nine to eleven Joint

559
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:40,079
inquiry that the House and Senate Intelligence Committees did in

560
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:44,159
two thousand and three on remember the twenty eight blocked

561
00:37:44,159 --> 00:37:48,280
out pages that was about. He says here in the

562
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,679
book clearly that this was about Saudi government and particularly

563
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:59,920
about Saudi government funding of al Qaeda. No mention of

564
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:04,760
this in the report except a disclaimer and this mantra

565
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,800
they have. We have found no evidence, they say, we

566
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960
have found no evidence that any foreign government. We have

567
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,239
found no evidence that the Saudi government or any members

568
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,800
of the royal family gave money to al Qaeda. Now,

569
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Craig Unger in his book, have you read The House

570
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,480
of Bush, House of Sad, This is the book that

571
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,760
a lot of Michael Moore's movie was based on, and

572
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,519
Unger reports that there's no doubt about that Prince Bandar,

573
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,239
who is in tight with the Bush family, even known

574
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:44,679
as Bandar Bush. He's the Saudi ambassador to Washington. That

575
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:49,199
he and his wife, particularly his wife, Princess Haisa, gave

576
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:54,639
about one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to a couple

577
00:38:54,880 --> 00:39:01,400
in California, San Diego, allegedly for or a thyroid problem

578
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,559
for the wife. And maybe she did have a thyroid problem,

579
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:09,880
and maybe it was all in, you know, innocent, but nevertheless,

580
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,199
the money then went from that family to two of

581
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:20,280
the alleged hijackers, Almidar and the other that was in

582
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:26,440
San Diego. And so this is documented both by Graham

583
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,159
and by Unger. And yet they said, we found no

584
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,480
evidence that Princess Haifa gave any money, whether directly or indirectly,

585
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:41,960
whether intentionally or unintentionally. She just didn't give any period

586
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,400
or that is, we found no evidence that she gave

587
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:50,519
any That statement could be literally true if you can't

588
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:57,159
find sometimes what you don't look for Saudi flights. Remember

589
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,360
this was the big to do about Michael Moore book,

590
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,039
and people came out and said, oh, that's just gross

591
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:07,639
distortion that there were any unauthorized flights that were carrying

592
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:11,679
the Saudis. The nine to eleven Commission says, yeah, no problem,

593
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,280
nothing unusual went on. Craig Gunger reported that on September

594
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:24,000
thirteenth there was a flight from Tampa to Lexington that

595
00:40:24,159 --> 00:40:28,639
carried three young Saudis to Lexington where one of the

596
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:31,599
big flights was going to take them out of the country.

597
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:40,119
On the morning of September thirteenth. Craiggunger is very clear

598
00:40:40,159 --> 00:40:49,840
about this. At eleven o'clock commercial flights were allowed. Private

599
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,480
planes were still not allowed. In fact, there was some

600
00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:55,719
any politaria. You know about a note tam is that

601
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,079
what they call it notice to all airman using the

602
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:01,639
old sexist language. It came out at ten fifty seven

603
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,320
saying warning airspace is only open for commercial flights. No

604
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,960
private flights will be allowed. You will be forced down

605
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,280
if you go up. The nine to eleven Commission just

606
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,480
says no problem. Air American airspace was open at eleven

607
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:20,119
o'clock on that day and that flight didn't leave until

608
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:24,320
four point thirty in the afternoon. That is the complete,

609
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,280
the strongest examples of the complete dishonesty. They have to

610
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,800
know they're lying, and yet they also know that most

611
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,000
of the American people won't know any better, and so

612
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,519
they'll get five star reviews on Amazon dot com in

613
00:41:38,559 --> 00:41:42,880
spite of such things.

614
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:43,679
Speaker 2: FBI.

615
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:51,679
Speaker 1: There are so many stories about FBI obstruction of investigations

616
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,719
and so on. One of these, the most famous one

617
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,480
is by Colleen Rowley. Remember she was Time one of

618
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:03,159
the Time Persons of the Year because she blew the

619
00:42:03,159 --> 00:42:09,039
whistle on this sabotage. She said within the FAA FBI

620
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:15,280
headquarters that they wanted to get into Mussaui's laptop computer

621
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,400
because they thought he was going to fly planes into

622
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,400
the World Trade Center. So they applied for a FISA

623
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:29,559
FISA permit to investigate. They knew FISA would give it

624
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,599
to him. They've hardly ever turned down an application in history.

625
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,840
So what does somebody in the headquarters down he sabotage

626
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,280
is said. He takes out the crucial information that shows

627
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,000
that what the French authorities had shown that Mussaue had

628
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:49,000
a connection to al Qaeda rebels in Chech. Now he

629
00:42:49,079 --> 00:42:53,480
deletes that and then sends it to the superior to him,

630
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,199
and the superior looks at it and says, ah, this

631
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,000
won't fly. I won't even send it to FISA. That's sabotage,

632
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:04,599
and Colleen Rowdy then exposed it. You will find Colleen

633
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:09,000
Rawley's name once in the book, but no reference at

634
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:12,199
all to this flap, which was important enough to get

635
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,599
her on the cover of Time magazine. That's an extreme

636
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:19,880
example of a mission. Likewise, many of you know the

637
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:27,079
saga of Sabell Edmunds, who was propositioned by a fellow woman,

638
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:31,360
a fellow Turkish women, and they were doing they were

639
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,239
hired to do translations. After nine to eleven, she found

640
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,280
this woman was working for one of the foreign groups

641
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:44,760
that they were supposed to be alleged investigating that woman

642
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,320
was either not translating the materials or mistranslating it, that

643
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:53,880
she and one of her superiors were smuggling materials out

644
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,039
of the FBI and giving them to this organization. Sabell

645
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,679
Edmunds test side for three and a half hours to

646
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,320
the Commission, told him about all of this, told him

647
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:17,519
that her colleague Behus was participating in a message from Iran.

648
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,599
They had an asset in Iran who told him prior

649
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,000
to nine to eleven that Osama bin Laden was planning

650
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,000
to attack the United States, and they were told to

651
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,320
shut up, just keep quiet about it. Beus went in

652
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,760
and testified for two hours, and you can be sure

653
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,679
he told about all this. His name is not even

654
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,119
mentioned in the nine to eleven report. Her name is

655
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:43,360
mentioned once in a note in which it says she

656
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,079
was one of four people who recommended that the FBI

657
00:44:46,199 --> 00:44:51,760
should tighten up its procedures Pakistan and the ISSI. The

658
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:57,599
ISI is intelligence services and it was set up by

659
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,079
the CIA. And you see, if there were evidence then

660
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:04,840
that the ISI were involved in nine to eleven, that

661
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,960
might suggest that the CIA was involved in nine to eleven.

662
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,199
So it'd be very important to keep any such information away. Well,

663
00:45:14,199 --> 00:45:18,360
Mahmoud Ahmed, the head of the ISI, how many of

664
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:22,039
you know this, was in Washington the week prior to

665
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,320
nine to eleven, meeting with George Tennant, head of CIA.

666
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,119
No mention of this. They mentioned that he showed up

667
00:45:30,159 --> 00:45:33,519
on the thirteenth, probably to come over and give condolences

668
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,679
and say what can I do to help, But there's

669
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,280
no mention that he was there prior to nine to eleven.

670
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,679
There was no mention that he and Tenant were meeting.

671
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:48,199
Five days before the leader of the Northern Alliance, Masoud Ahmed,

672
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,039
was assassinated and according to the Northern Alliance, by the ISI.

673
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:58,159
And that made things easy then when we went in there,

674
00:45:58,199 --> 00:46:03,199
because there were no leaders to challenge what the American

675
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:07,880
government wanted to put in place. Then word came from

676
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,360
India that this same chief of the IS, head of

677
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,360
the ISI, had had ordered another is SI agent to

678
00:46:17,559 --> 00:46:21,920
wire one hundred thousand dollars to Muhammadada shortly before nine

679
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,360
to eleven. So here you have the ISI up to

680
00:46:26,599 --> 00:46:31,960
its eyeballs in nine to eleven planning, not a single

681
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,280
mention of any of this. And here's what shows the

682
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
other You know, we said, they said, we found no

683
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:41,559
evidence of any foreign government funding. And of course when

684
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:44,320
you get to the back of the book, what are

685
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:50,559
the recommendations continued cooperation and funding of Pakistan and of

686
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:54,960
course continued cooperation with Saudi Arabia. So in other words,

687
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,519
you could really you start with the back of the

688
00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:58,960
book and look at the recommendations, and then you can say,

689
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:02,039
then you can figure out what they're going to discover.

690
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,199
Was the truth about nine to eleven? In other words,

691
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,239
this was all to get to our topic. This was

692
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:15,400
not truth driven, this was politics driven. The whole report

693
00:47:15,559 --> 00:47:19,039
is politically driven not driven by a desire for truth.

694
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,119
No mention of the fact that Daniel Pearl Wall Street

695
00:47:23,159 --> 00:47:28,000
Journal reporter was murdered by if I. No mention that

696
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:33,599
this other guy that Polishner says that Abu fingered as

697
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440
somebody in Pakistan who knew about nine to eleven ahead

698
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:40,159
of time. Also, oh, I forgot to tell you about

699
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:44,800
Pausner's story. He mentioned three members of the royal family

700
00:47:45,639 --> 00:47:50,800
who were the ones who knew about him and knew

701
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,039
about nine to eleven. All three of them die within

702
00:47:55,199 --> 00:47:58,840
an eight day period, and that was, according to Posner

703
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:04,039
and Unger, just after the CIA had told Saudi intelligence

704
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,920
about these three guys. So Prince Ahmed, who's forty one

705
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,599
years old, suddenly dies of a heart attack. The second

706
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,239
guy dies the next day in a single car accident

707
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,239
on his way to Ahmed's funeral. And then my favorite

708
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,360
is that the young guy who was only twenty one

709
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,760
died of thirst. He went out into the desert, and

710
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,960
you know, just being twenty one years old, I probably

711
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:34,400
just forgot, Oh, in the desert, you need water. And

712
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,880
no mention of any of these anomalies in the nine

713
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,920
to eleven report, as if gee, this is something strange

714
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:46,480
we should look into. Okay, So the same thing happened

715
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:51,320
in Pakistan. Then this mirror died in one of these flights,

716
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,760
even though the plane had just been checked. Of course

717
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,920
that was probably the problem. It had just been toocked.

718
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,559
No mention that another ISI agent in nineteen ninety nine

719
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,480
had looked at the World Trade Center he was being taped,

720
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,639
and said, those towers are coming down. So this is

721
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:15,000
a long term plan if that story is true. No

722
00:49:15,159 --> 00:49:19,320
mention in there about all the motives you if you're

723
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,440
gonna say, well, maybe the US government was involved, you'd say, well,

724
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,880
why you need a motive, Kui bono, who benefits? No

725
00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,639
mention of the fact that the United States government had

726
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:34,480
a big appetite and big plants. So why did we

727
00:49:34,519 --> 00:49:39,880
attack Iraq? Let's go to Afghanistan. Well, we were concerned

728
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,440
about peace and human rights. Now, if you read any

729
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,280
of the books, it's all about the pipeline wars to

730
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,320
put in the gas and oil pipelines to bring down

731
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,519
oil gas from the Caspian Sea, which maybe the third

732
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:56,480
largest oil reserves oil and gas reserves in the world,

733
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,960
and be able to bring him down through Pakistan and Afghani.

734
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,119
So they don't have to go through Iran or Russia.

735
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,960
And Unical was leading that consorts him to do this.

736
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,719
So read you know, Rashid's book on the Taliban tells

737
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,760
all about that. It's two chapters about romancing the Taliban,

738
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:19,840
how we were working with the Taliban to try to

739
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,880
bring this off. No mention of that, No mention that

740
00:50:23,079 --> 00:50:27,119
the three people who were in charge of our defenses

741
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:32,119
on nine to eleven, Donald Rumsfeld, General Myers, he was

742
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:35,639
in charge coincidentally just because Henry Shelton had to go

743
00:50:35,679 --> 00:50:41,400
to Europe, so Myers was in charge. And Everhart, who

744
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,400
was the head of Norad. So they were the three

745
00:50:44,599 --> 00:50:47,960
in charge of our defenses. Those are the three biggest

746
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,719
supporters of the US Space Command, which we heard about

747
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,519
in the Sun. The Space Command is the big deal.

748
00:50:57,559 --> 00:51:03,519
It's weaponizing space for absolute domination. It is estimated to

749
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:08,920
cost least a trillion dollars. That means we need to

750
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,400
pony up. Even though the Cold War is over, We've

751
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,719
got to give more money to the military. How do

752
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,119
you get the American people ready to pony up? Well

753
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:26,559
in nineteen In two thousand, this group called the Project

754
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:34,320
for the New American Century that had Rumsfeld, Cheney, Pearl Wolfewitz,

755
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,920
all sorts of people, many of whom became central members

756
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,599
of the Bush two administration, were members of this organization.

757
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:46,280
They put out a document called Rebuilding American's Defenses, and

758
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,559
in there they say, we need to do this rapid

759
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:52,800
transformation of the military, but it's going to go very

760
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:59,519
slowly absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event such as a

761
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:04,639
new Pearl Harbor. The day the evening of nine to eleven,

762
00:52:04,679 --> 00:52:07,400
evidently Bush wrote in his diary, I think the new

763
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,400
Pearl Harbor happened of the twenty first century, happened today

764
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,440
After nine to eleven, Rice, Cheney, Bush were all going

765
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,800
around saying this nine to eleven provides great opportunities for us.

766
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:24,079
No mention of that. The word opportunity. You know, there's

767
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,840
in the nine to eleven report. There's an index. You

768
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:32,239
go on Internet and look up any word, look up opportunities.

769
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,280
You will not find opportunities in the mouth of any

770
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:41,320
member of the administration Iraq. No mention of the fact

771
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,519
that this same group had been chomping at the bit

772
00:52:44,679 --> 00:52:48,360
to attack a rock ever since Papa Bush wouldn't do

773
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,800
it back in ninety one, they were very upset with

774
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:58,079
him in the report, no mention that we might have

775
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:02,159
some interest in the oil. Carrie the other night, in

776
00:53:02,159 --> 00:53:07,079
my moment, the broudest moment, he said, what happened when

777
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,840
we went to Iraq? We ignored everything. Everything was chaos

778
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,800
except the oil ministries. We protected the oil ministries. Furthermore,

779
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,880
he said, we're building fourteen military bases. If you read

780
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,920
Chalmers Johnson's book, that's what it's all about. Oil and

781
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,679
bases are two sides of the same coin. That's what

782
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,239
it's about. You would not get an inkling of that.

783
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:33,280
We were just going over to take care of Saddam

784
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,840
because he was a bad man. Okay, I'll have to

785
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,239
draw this to and end. Let me just say that

786
00:53:40,639 --> 00:53:44,480
when my book comes out in six weeks, the second

787
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:47,719
part of the book, which is dealing with the nine

788
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:54,639
to eleven report, defending the military, going through flight eleven one,

789
00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:01,880
seventy five, seventy seven, and then ninety three, this is

790
00:54:02,079 --> 00:54:04,719
by far every reader reads it and says, this is

791
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,480
the strongest part of the book. And I'm sorry I

792
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,000
didn't get to it today. But then I want you

793
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,639
to buy my book. But when you get to this part.

794
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,239
You will say Part one is mild, compares with the

795
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,840
lies in part two. Let me just give one example.

796
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,119
The big question is did we shoot down? Did we

797
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:29,199
our own military shoot down flight ninety three? And many

798
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,840
people have argued Cheney was down in the underground shelter

799
00:54:33,519 --> 00:54:39,199
masterminding this operation. What does the nine to eleven report do.

800
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,239
It tells you, well, Cheney didn't get down there till

801
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,679
ten o'clock and then the flight was down at ten

802
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,840
oh three. No way he could have done it, and

803
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,840
then he didn't give the shootdown order till ten fifteen

804
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:58,400
ten ten, ten fifteen. Norman Minetta, Secretary of Transportation, testified

805
00:54:58,519 --> 00:55:01,119
to the nine to eleven Commission, that he got to

806
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:04,599
the White House about nine fifteen, checked in with Richard Clark.

807
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,519
This corresponds exactly to Richard Clark what he says in

808
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,119
his book Against All Enemies, went down to the underground shelter,

809
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,480
got there by nine to twenty. Cheney was already there,

810
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,760
was clearly in charge. There was a guy coming in

811
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,880
talking about this flight is fifty miles out? Does this

812
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:25,400
order stand? This was probably whatever was coming towards the Pentagon,

813
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,039
which in the book they tell you Gee we didn't

814
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,000
know anything about it two minutes ahead of time, and

815
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:33,760
here we have it, you know, almost twenty minutes ahead

816
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:38,719
of time. And so they make up this story that

817
00:55:39,159 --> 00:55:44,000
Bush didn't get Cheney, didn't get taken down to the

818
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:48,239
underground shelter, and didn't actually get in there till till

819
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:53,239
ten o'clock. So they lie by probably Richard Clark's account

820
00:55:53,519 --> 00:55:57,239
suggests that Cheney went down about nine to twelve, So

821
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,119
they lie by almost an hour there, and they tell you, well,

822
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:06,119
this was in the logs, but the Secret Service says, well,

823
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,800
those logs somehow got destroyed. We don't have that information,

824
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:13,639
but you know, we can trust the Secret Service. So

825
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,000
the biggest lies are in Part two, particularly with regard Well,

826
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,760
let me summarize. You've got three stories now, had three

827
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,880
stories about nine to eleven. The first few days after

828
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,239
nine to eleven, Myers, Norad and others were saying, we

829
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:39,320
didn't send up any flights until after the Pentagon was hit. Well,

830
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,719
that wasn't going to watch. That looks like a stand

831
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,480
down where you say, well, just let it happen. So

832
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:47,960
then they start telling us, and CBS says, on Tuesday night,

833
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,599
oh no, they set up flights, but they just didn't

834
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:54,079
get there on time, and that became official. Then on

835
00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:57,239
September eighteenth, they came out with their timeline. They said,

836
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,000
here's when the FAA told us, and here's when we

837
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:07,039
scrambled airplanes and unfortunately they just couldn't get there in time. Now,

838
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,800
then in the in the meantime, critics have looked at

839
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,880
those timelines and said, you still could have made it.

840
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:17,519
You could have stopped flight one seventy five. You certainly

841
00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:23,599
could have stopped flight seventy seven, assuming it was And

842
00:57:23,679 --> 00:57:26,039
so we've got a third story here. They give us

843
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:29,880
a new timeline which says we had nine minutes notice

844
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,800
for flight eleven, and that wasn't enough because it took

845
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,519
eight minutes for needs nor Add in Northeast to call

846
00:57:38,639 --> 00:57:44,519
Florida to get permission to send up planes, which is ridiculous.

847
00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:48,440
An eight minute phone call when you've got a crisis

848
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:54,400
and then no warning whatsoever. So they tell you that

849
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,400
what we've been told since September eighteenth is all faults.

850
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,280
When September eighteenth, NORAD's timeline said we got a notification

851
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:08,079
of flight one seventy five at eight forty three. The

852
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,960
nine eleven Commission says, no, that was a mistake. They didn't.

853
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,800
We didn't. They didn't know about it until the South

854
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:18,599
Tower was hit. And then flight seventy seven they said, well,

855
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:22,639
we got notification at nine twenty four. No, no, no,

856
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:26,639
no notification. We only heard about it two minutes ahead

857
00:58:26,639 --> 00:58:28,880
of time, just in time to send up a guy

858
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,800
and look at it and say, yeah, that's a Bowling

859
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,920
seven fifty seven, all right, just before it crashed. And

860
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:41,760
then with flight ninety three, no warning whatsoever. So just

861
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,719
a complete rewriting of history and revisionism is fine, but

862
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,440
you've got to show why the old story was false

863
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:52,840
and why the news story is more credible. They don't

864
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,960
do that. They just say that was incorrect, that was incorrect.

865
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,119
Here's the truth. And then you look at the notes.

866
00:58:59,199 --> 00:59:01,360
It looks very sky because they've got all these books

867
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,119
and notes in the back. But you look at the

868
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:08,599
crucial ones and it says interview with General Myers, interview

869
00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:13,920
with General Everhart, interview with the Secret Service, interview with

870
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:18,199
the FBI agents. I hate to tell you this, but

871
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,400
this is the sad story of truth and politics in

872
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:25,039
Washington in these here days. Thank you very much.

873
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Fact Hunter Radio network

874
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,360
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