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Speaker 1: You are now listening to soft Core History.

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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome in officially to Halloween whoor Nights.

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I'm your host for the week, Damn re Jester, joined

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as always by Rob Fox.

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: And we've got a very special guest. You know him,

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you love him. He's been on the show many times before.

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Matthew Cooper Coop.

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Speaker 4: Happy to be here. Thanks for having me, dude, it's

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been a while since I've been on here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to my couch.

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Speaker 4: It has been I love the studio setup.

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Speaker 3: I think the couch is an upgrade, straight up no

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cap like absolute the best version of the set we've had.

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Speaker 2: We even upgraded the spiderwebs.

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought it was like a ghost ship and

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those were fish nets? Could be that? Yeah, like it

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was It's the Mary Celeste, which.

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Speaker 2: We did on Patreon Softcore History. We've officially started Halloween Hornets,

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but this is the first episode for the year on

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the YouTube on the on the main main Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Are these spider webs gonna stay year round like the

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last ones? Or are these ones coming down after No?

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Speaker 2: I gotta see how I feel about it.

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Speaker 4: I mean it look pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Look, but you are right. They give more of a

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ship net.

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Speaker 3: I'm not calling them spider webs. This is full on

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fishing net.

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Speaker 2: And they were on discount at a Targets.

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Speaker 3: Okay, maybe that's why nobody wanted them, Like, oh yeah,

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those aren't spider webs. You you go, you go fishing

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with that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I can catch a meal.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, this looks like the type of

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thing a hobo shop list from Target goes to the

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local creek and gets a meal with Lake Austin. Yeah,

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I go to paddle board catch an alligator.

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Speaker 2: There are some gators in there. Yeah, people forget Wait

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where Lake Austin. There's some gators in Lake Austintown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shut the fuck up. Yeah, dude, I have spent

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so much time in that lake thinking that it was safe.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of bodies in there.

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Speaker 3: First, people die in it constantly. It's not safe.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but I can swim. I was taught when

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I was a kid. But dude, those alligators. I'm not

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gonna fuck with the alligators.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gators in there, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I like algators get a bad rap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but one day one of them is going to

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kill someone.

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Speaker 2: Or me, I'm gonna paddle up to it and go

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pet it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna absolutely rep you the pieces.

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Speaker 2: People don't know this. In Florida, you can pet the gators.

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They're docile.

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Speaker 3: They're not They're straight up not. Also, Lake Austin is

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like a gators paradise because I don't know if you

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know about gators, I think crocs two, but gators.

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Speaker 2: No one's expecting it in like Austin.

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Speaker 3: No, I know. It's the funny you Your last thought

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before dying from a gator in Lake Austin is what

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the fucking what it's like getting attacked by a lion

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in Chicago, Like, it's just not supposed to happen.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's spooky. Yeah, I mean there is a very

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realistic chance you get attacked by a tiger here in

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Texas as well. Well, that's just I believe there's more

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tigers at gas stations or in containment in Texas than

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in the wild. That's true, there are there, they're last Louisiana.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, more tigers in captivity in Texas than there are

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still living in the wild.

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Speaker 3: One used to live in my in laws neighborhood. Yep,

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it escaped in Houston, somebody's poolhouse, some cartel member. Basically, yeah,

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they moved after that, not because of that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Coop, thanks for joining us. Happy to be officially

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Halloween wher nits spooky season, spooky season spoo. Yeah, and

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what better way to start than to cash in on

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some sweet sweet se o.

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Speaker 3: What's the I don't even know what the seo would

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be right now?

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Speaker 2: Ed Gean Ah, Yes, notoriously hot because Charlie Unham blays

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him now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, definitely was.

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Speaker 3: They made him hot.

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Speaker 4: But have you guys, have you seen the pictures of

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Charlie Huntum dressed up his ed Geen. They they did

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a pretty good job because it is still Charlie Hunum.

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When I first heard that it was going to be

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Charlie Hunum, I was like, this is this is absolutely retarded.

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Why would anybody cast a sex symbol as ed Geene.

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Then they kind of like he looks kind of like

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Billy Bob Thornton from sling Blade. Now okay, so roughly

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on the same level as Billy Bob Thornton where it's

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like he he landed Angelina Jolie. But he does look

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kind of retarded in the show all right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, you can do wonders with makeup these days,

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But do you know much about him? I don't know

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jack shit about ed Geek. I think did he wear

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people's skin? We'll get to it, Okay, I think that's

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all I know. But yeah, I don't know what spoilers did.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the most influential serial killers that wasn't

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actually a serial killer. That's the most surprising thing technically.

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But also yeah, he was, I mean a bit. Well,

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we'll get into it in the episode, I'm sure, but

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I don't really classify him as a serial killer.

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Speaker 2: You need more than two bodies, uh well, and you

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need confirmed bodies.

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Speaker 4: You need a pattern. He If anything, he was a

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product killer, which serial killers can be. But I still

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don't He was just to me, just a damaged little

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mama's boy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, he certainly was. Let's just get into that.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: Edward Theodor Geen was born in Lacrosse, Wisconsin, in August

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of nineteen oh six. He was the second son of

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George and Augusta. Gusa is a weird name for a woman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's a classic name, goes all the

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way back to Rome, it is, But now it sounds

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a little odd, even than the nineteen hundred. It seems

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a little weird. You know, there were a lot of

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Augusta Georgia. My grandma's name was Mercedes. Really yeah, yeah, no,

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that was she was born before the car. That's not true.

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I'm pretty sure. No, but the car was just named

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after a woman. She was born like at the same time.

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Did Mercedes have connections to the Axis, No, that's a

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British situation. I think we sure, Yeah, I'm pretty positive.

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I'll look it up.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought Mercedes was a German name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought they had like Axis ties and Mercedes

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Benz let's see.

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Speaker 2: Along with obviously Volkswagen, and we know Volkswagen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Volkswagen. Obviously the people's car, the chosen people's well

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not the chosen people chosen people's car. Yeah, well you

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look that up.

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Speaker 3: I will look that up. Uh yeah, yeah, okay, So

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it's German for sure.

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Speaker 4: Were they not making engines for the German plane? Who

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was making the engines for the German planes had to

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be Mercedes, I would think so, because Rolls Royce was

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making the engine for the British place.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying they weren't invented by the Nazis like Volkswagen. Basically, Okay,

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they aided the Nazis with what I was. You know,

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we all aid the Nazis did.

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Speaker 4: PSIM did so.

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Speaker 2: Coca Cola was the soda for the Allies, and I

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believe PEPSI chose the.

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Speaker 4: Axis PEPSI made that is, was PEPSI involved with Fanta.

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Speaker 2: Pepsi, I believe just was neutral. They're like, we'll still

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supply the axis with premium cola.

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Speaker 4: And we all love the neutral countries in World War Two. Yeah, Dick,

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it wasn't. I don't know. I think Coke might have

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been a subs I think Fanta might have been a

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subsidiary of Coca Cola because they still had they had

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the production over in Germany, but they couldn't. Yes, you're right,

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they couldn't sell coke over there and still be an

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American brand anyway.

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Speaker 3: Augusta not a weird name for nineteen oh six.

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Speaker 2: It's father was known to be an abusive alcoholic, and

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he would beat ed AND's older brother, Henry until there

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their ears wrung. He was a carpenter, tanner, firefighter, even

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owned his own grocery store before moving the family onto

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one hundred and fifty five acre farm in Plainfield, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: That he owned. Yeah, they owned it. How'd he get

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a loan for that? Like, all right, let's see it

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could own anything. Back then, it was life was easy.

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I mean it was harder in a lot of ways,

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but you could get a loan like, no, you can get.

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Speaker 2: A house for nothing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Banks really didn't care. We talk about like the

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mortgage crisis. Like, man, they were giving out loans to anybody.

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But you just walk in with enough nickels in your satchel,

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you'd be a homeowner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Somehow. Their mother was worse though. Augusta took advantage of

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having her sons isolated on their farm, keeping them away

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from civilization as much as possible.

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Speaker 3: My good boys, my beautiful boys.

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Speaker 2: She would read them scripture every afternoon, but stuck to

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the classics in the Old Testament and the Book of

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Revelations about murder, death and divine retribution.

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Speaker 3: Better content. Yeah, let's just be honest. The Gospels are

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dogshit content.

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Speaker 4: But they're boring as hell.

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Speaker 2: I yeah, so I grew up always I never get

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out of here.

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Speaker 4: That's not enough to interest me. While I fall asleep.

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When I was growing up though, like I was in

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a very very devoutly religious Christian family, my dad was.

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But I know it gets glossed over a lot. It

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was a Christian cult, the Worldwide Church of God shout out.

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But yeah. When I would go to bed and I

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wanted any sort of bedtime story for my dad, it

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would always be biblical stories, and primarily it was Revelations

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or the story of Jonah in the Whale. Oh, I

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love Jonah in the.

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Speaker 3: Way Joanah's kind of fun. Revelations feels not for children, Yes,

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a little spooky. You want a story about four horses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jonah's just Pinocchio.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the booth get swallowed by a whale. It's

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really finding Nemo too that point. I they can swallow

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by whale at one point too.

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Speaker 2: Also, Jonah not a real boy.

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Speaker 3: Jonah, I don't remember. I don't know anything about Jonah's story.

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Speaker 2: Something also grew, just not on his face.

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Speaker 3: He got he got hard in the whale.

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Speaker 4: Did Jonah have a boner? Was he like John?

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Speaker 2: That's how he got out.

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Speaker 3: He fucked his way out, just like John McAfee. He

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fucked his way to freedom. Oh yeah, through that blowhold

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for Jonah.

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Speaker 2: They would be hammered about the evils of the outside world, alcohol,

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often inciting their father, who she felt was totally worthless,

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and the device of the devil known as women.

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Speaker 3: Mmmm, it's not heard though, otherwise you're right, there's only

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one good woman in this player of the daddy. It's me.

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Don't you trust another another woman. Don't let her show

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you a flower.

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Speaker 2: You're not that far off, Like you're kind of nailing it.

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Edward would become obsessed and idolize his own mother. There's

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a story about ed having his first sexual arousal and

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orgasm during childhood after watching his mother slaughter a pig

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behind a shed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's just a normal farm boy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I look just I think that I'm not sure we've

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cleared the hurdle that that isn't a normal first farm

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boy orgasm. Like if you grew up on a farm,

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I'm not sure the first time you blasted your pants isn't.

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Speaker 2: Like you're not blanking at this. This doesn't surprise you.

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Speaker 4: No, well, realistically speaking, like again, gone back to the

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way that I grew up. I grew up in a very,

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very rural area and any sort of sex education was

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completely off the table. Right. So the first time that

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I ever had the opportunity to ask any questions about

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anything like that was the first time that I saw

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farm animals banging.

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Speaker 3: So you had to be like your question was scientific

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at that point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't get hard from it, but I mean

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a little bit more time, I probably wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have blamed you.

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Speaker 2: Now you also saw, I believe, like your eight or

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nine year old friend chased down a pig and slid

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its throat right in front of you.

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Speaker 4: Jumped on his back and slid his throat. Yeah, his

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name was Clint. That kid was a fucking badass. Tell me,

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at like eight years old, he's tougher than I'll ever

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be in my entire life.

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Speaker 3: Why did he need to do it?

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Speaker 4: They were just slaughtering one of their pigs. I didn't

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know that it was coming.

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Speaker 2: Okay, like we have a guest, we need to make supper, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like something that they were gonna do anyway,

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one of their pigs. But then as soon as we

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got out next to the corral, his Dad just handed

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them a knife and it was like, go get them, Clint,

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and then just Clint took off running out into the

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CORRALA jumped on the pig's back and then just slid

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its throat and I was fucking horrified.

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Speaker 3: Hell, did you eat it?

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Speaker 2: Now where you were?

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Speaker 4: We didn't As far as I know, we didn't eat

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that one that night. I think they were just getting

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that out of the way because they had to breed

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it and slaughter it and everything.

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Speaker 3: That's true. I didn't know. I was actually curious if

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they were just doing the whole thing right there, Like

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you got there at two o'clock and they were like, yeah,

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we're gonna chop it up, have the pork chops ready

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for dinner.

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Speaker 4: That that actually would have been kind of cool if

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Speaker 3: You feel anything downstairs or no? No?

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Speaker 4: I trilled a little bit. I was intimidated by Clint.

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After that. It's like, this kid's a fucking.

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Speaker 3: Bad Yeah, he knows how Clint. Clint gets up and

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he's like, that's a wound.

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Speaker 4: Just kill build a butcher.

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Speaker 2: When Ed was twelve, his mother caught him masturbidden and

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grabbed and tugged his balls calling them the curse of

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man before putting them in hot water to punish.

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Speaker 4: Him, and that didn't make him hard.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he should have just been gooping all over her

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at that point. I mean, just actual full on fire hosing.

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back around in baby baby books, a lot of baby

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books will recommend doing that.

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Speaker 2: To put your baby's balls in hot water.

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Speaker 3: If they get an erection too early before six months,

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you're supposed to dip their scrotums in boiling hot water.

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Speaker 2: Where are these books from?

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Speaker 3: When are they dated? When are they dated? They're dated present,

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I which you wouldn't call them books so much as

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neatly stapled pamphlets from our own church.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which again, you guys don't go to a Catholic

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church because of your wife.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Every time I complain about it, she just like

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pretty much does weird sex stuff to me to convince

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me otherwise.

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Speaker 2: And you end up in a strip mall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that'll do it.

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Speaker 3: So if you see me walking out of a Baptist church,

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I've just gotten a rusty trombone in the last forty

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eight hours.

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Speaker 2: Somehow, she eventually let Egg go off to school. But

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would punish him if he attempted to make friends or

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interact too much with other.

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Speaker 5: Kids doing talking to that boy. You know where that

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boy is, daddy a banker. Banker sells the wholes in

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a hole, Give me a ball.

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Speaker 2: Because of this, classmutes and teachers described him as shy

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and strange. Often laughed in uncomfortable situations, which I can

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relate to. I actually used to always laugh in front

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of my coach's face, as if they yelled at me,

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because he felt uncomfortable as a kid. Yeah, whenever I

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was uncomfortable, I would just smile or laugh.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's not helpful.

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Speaker 2: So my eighth grade coach tried to fight me because

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I laughed in his face. He was smaller than me

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at the time, so I threw him down.

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Speaker 4: Well, he tried to fight you when you were he

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got my face.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like he went to push me, and

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I just kind of like grabbed his arms and threw

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him down. Oh, and then I didn't get to start

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the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I sat on the bench the rest of the year.

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Speaker 3: Shit jumps on your back and sleep your throat.

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Speaker 2: He also had a slight growth that caused him to

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have a lazy eye and a lesion on his tongue

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that caused him to speak a bit weird. So I'm

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sure that didn't help a social interaction.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna make your friends. It's not gonna make

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your friends, especially back then. So it's the nineteen twenties

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for his mom. Yeah, yeah, genetics helped her out in.

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Speaker 2: A deformed little freak who's now being played by one

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of the hottest men in Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: But like the things that children would call weird kids

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or retarded kids, let's just call it the nineteen seventies

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was jaw dropping. Go back to the twenties and I

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think the literally you could just smack them with sticks

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all day and it was not a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I think you're allowed to beat them, yeah, and call

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them a mongoloid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like truly. I randomly, I've never actually seen this movie,

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but I randomly got served a clip of Bad News Bears, uh,

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and they're like, man, there's like a dumb caption like

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kids movies used to hit different and it was like

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five and we're from an eight.

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Speaker 2: Year old or were they reading Huckleberry Finn.

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Speaker 3: No, No, he was using them descriptively for his teammates

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who fit that description, gotcha, Yeah, did he have the pass? No? No,

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he was like, this team's full of n words bis jews.

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I was like, good god, I have not seen this movie.

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And then Jackie Arl Haley gets in a fight with

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kids who call him a fag a bunch of times,

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which I was like, I mean, that's era accurate. That

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would have been accurate to me. No, that's the movie

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in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 2: Were past being monetized at this point for this episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I'm just saying, it's what's in

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the fucking movie. I'm the and words the only one

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I'm not gonna say. I will repeat what someone else said,

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coward all the way up.

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Speaker 2: Fine, you want me to bleep it up to make

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us sound like you said that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ed dropped out of school in eighth grade but continued

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to be an avid reader. Henry and Ed would remain

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on the arm into their thirties.

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Speaker 3: Good Boys, Strong Boss. Really, all I'm thinking about is

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just that X Files episode where they where they fucked

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the nugget.

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Speaker 2: I'm familiar somebody nugget.

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Speaker 4: The mom underneath the bed or something.

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Speaker 3: Under the boards. Oh yeah, yeah, so like these three

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like inbred brothers. Uh, just like kept their mom and

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they like sowed off her arms and legs and they

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just like nugget banger. And then she gets pregnant and

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they have to take the even more target kids and

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like just bury them in.

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Speaker 2: The Isn't that kind of the case in Bone Tomahawk

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did bone Tomahawk?

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Speaker 3: It's not their own mom though, it's just I understand that.

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But there's just they nuggeted them nuggets. They are given birth, yeah,

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but they also care. They also took their eyes out

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and this lady she still had her eyes. And when

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Moulden is Gully Finder, she's.

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Speaker 6: Like, my boys is such good boys, such sweet bush

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good boss and they all just like take terms like

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drilling their quadruple amputee mother, who they quadruple amputee.

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Speaker 2: That's dark, I mean it fits for this episode.

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Speaker 3: That episode was banned from Fox for like a decade.

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Speaker 2: Their mother made them promise they'd never leave her alone

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with their useless father, who was drinking away the family money.

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On April Fool's Day, nineteen forty, Ed's father, George, finally

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dies of a heart attack at the age of sixty six.

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Speaker 4: Damn, that's older than I was expecting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to help pay the bills. Ed now thirty four

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and his brother, who's five years older, so like thirty nine,

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got odd jobs around town, working as handymen, and became

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reliable and respected members of the community.

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Speaker 3: Okay, good for them. Like, oh, those fine boys finally left.

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Their mom must be too old to hold them back.

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Speaker 2: Ed even babysat for neighbors, saying he related more to

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kids than adults.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, that checks out completely true.

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Speaker 2: He didn't really have a childhood Michael Jackson situation.

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Speaker 3: I was about to I was literally about to say,

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very much like Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Michael Jackson was very much like ed Gean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah maybe not. Well, I don't know. They both had

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victims allegedly, Allegedly, no one's proven ed Green was guilty.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen forty two, ed was eligible for the draft

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because World War Two is going on and had to

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go to Milwaukee for a physical exam.

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Speaker 3: That he thirty six at that point forty two, Yeah,

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something like that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's really pushing it, but yeah, World War II,

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that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: All hands on deck.

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Speaker 3: My grandpa was in the battle of the Bulge at

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the age of thirty three.

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Speaker 4: Thirty three, Yeah, god damn, he was an old band

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compared to everybody else.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, platoon commander of the tank platoon.

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But yeah, he was. He was born in nineteen twelve.

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Speaker 2: Again, not a veteran though.

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Speaker 3: The Bulge, it's on a VHS now, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've seen that one.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty rough, a lot of I'll just put it

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this way. It's a man named Sherman who keeps just

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sticking his cannon where it doesn't belong. In my grandpa's butt.

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Speaker 2: Because of Milwaukee for a physical exam that he fails

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thanks to the growth on his eyelid that impaired his vision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it never sounded like he was getting in.

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Speaker 2: No, but it was the farthest he ever traveled in

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his life. Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: But if they are, like, if they're pulling people in

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and at roughly what thirty six years old at this point,

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oldest person I knew in basic training was thirty four,

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and he looked like a goddamn old man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure.

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Speaker 4: But even if they're if they're desperate enough to bring

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in people that are in their late thirties, like mid

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to late thirties. I would think that just a little

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growth on the eye they could probably.

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Speaker 3: Overlook, especially if it's like, all right, well, we can't

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send you to the front lines, but you can do

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dogshit logistical.

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Speaker 4: Work, or even then just send them out to the

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front lines. They don't need to see anything to block

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the bullets for other people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, go skip through that minefield, special boy

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with scalded testicles whatever.

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Speaker 2: Henry began dating a divorced mother of two and was

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planning to move in with his new family.

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Speaker 4: First downturn his life so far.

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Speaker 2: Henry and their own mother, though, became more and more

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distant due to this, and he would often criticize her

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in front of Ed, worrying about his brother's attachment issues.

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Speaker 3: You're like Ed, he told us. She told she made

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us not have sex until we were like forty, ED,

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wake up. ED. I don't know. I lock her, I give,

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I don't know. I like the way she kill for pigs.

470
00:22:58,039 --> 00:22:58,480
I don't know.

471
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: Ed was reportedly shocked and hurt from these comments, and

472
00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:10,119
in nineteen forty four, his brother was mysteriously found dead

473
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,480
faced down on their farm.

474
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 3: Well, he did get a kill during the war. Good

475
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,759
for him, was there?

476
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,079
Speaker 4: Did you happen to see any details about his brother,

477
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,039
because I've heard a lot of theories that his brother

478
00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:30,039
was his technically his first victim. Yeah, but it was

479
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,119
never actually proven.

480
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 3: It's not proven.

481
00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: So after Ed had lost control of a brush burning fire,

482
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,359
the local fire department was needed to put it out.

483
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:43,039
While doing so, Henry's body was found, but no foul

484
00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:46,519
play was suspected. Believing Ed was incapable of harmon anyone,

485
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,680
let alone his own brother.

486
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,079
Speaker 3: They just thought he was too simple to do it.

487
00:23:51,519 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, kinda.

488
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 3: I liked it. They're just like, oh, that's no, No,

489
00:24:00,519 --> 00:24:03,720
it didn't do it. The retard he watches our babies

490
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,799
while we're away for hours. He would never hurt someone.

491
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,839
The simpleton who we put into are the care of

492
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,599
our children, into the arms of They wouldn't kill anyone.

493
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 4: The guy with the boiled balls hill.

494
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, despite having a giant bruise on his head. The

495
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:27,480
official list of his death was asphyxiation from the fire.

496
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 4: Oh okay, and this was a brushfire.

497
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,559
Speaker 2: So he was burning brush and Ed was lost control

498
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,480
of it and it kind of spread on its property.

499
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,559
Speaker 4: So his brother just somehow ended up with a bruise

500
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,880
on his head in a field plenty of places to escape.

501
00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: I guess it makes sense if you, you know, start

502
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,279
asphyxiating and you fall down or something. Maybe who the

503
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,920
fuck knows.

504
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: And apparently he had been dead for longer than you know.

505
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,799
The fire would vindicated right right, right, But you know

506
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,839
who's gonna investigate that?

507
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:01,319
Speaker 3: Who cares?

508
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,799
Speaker 4: He had one of those famous pre mortem asphyxiations.

509
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 3: Look, there's a war on pile time to investigate a meta.

510
00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: Their mother, Augustus, suffered a stroke shortly after, and Ed

511
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:18,279
devoted himself to her care until she suffered a second

512
00:25:18,319 --> 00:25:22,000
stroke and died on December twenty ninth, nineteen forty five.

513
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:27,640
Ed was devastated, losing his only friend in the world

514
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,440
in one true.

515
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: Love, possibly the only woman to ever make him come Certainly.

516
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: He boarded up her bedroom and living room to preserve

517
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,799
them as if they were and she was still alive.

518
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,400
He would eventually go up to board up all of

519
00:25:49,519 --> 00:25:51,960
the farm, but two rooms only have an access to

520
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:55,319
a small room in the kitchen next door, so he

521
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,920
didn't want to like taint anything that would have had

522
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000
the scent or I guess items of his mother.

523
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,519
Speaker 3: He wanted to remember the better times, you know, the

524
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,000
happy times when he was getting erections while his mom

525
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:16,319
did farm work and boiled his balls, and before his

526
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,640
brother took on some used flower that pushed out to

527
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,640
sin meat sacks. Fucking kids. She had to be so

528
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:30,440
mad about that, a divorced woman in the forties who

529
00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:31,720
shoved two out already.

530
00:26:32,759 --> 00:26:36,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, even even the people that were well adjusted did

531
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,200
not look kindly on that.

532
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,039
Speaker 3: No, No, Henry's a weirdo too though. He was living

533
00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:44,880
on the farm with his brother and mom. I get

534
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,200
and then he finally got laid and he was like, dude,

535
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,519
this is it, Dude, we have been living fucked up live.

536
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 2: His already unkempt appearance gets worse and neighbors start to

537
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:02,759
comment on how bad he starts to smell. Yeah, he

538
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,680
worked odd jobs to get by and eventually got a

539
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,200
bail out from the government with a farm subsidy in

540
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:09,200
nineteen fifty one.

541
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 4: While we're just throwing money around eighty.

542
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:15,519
Speaker 2: Acres of his own land, so sells land that he

543
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,680
owns already, and then that farm subsidy in nineteen fifty one.

544
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,559
It's smooth sailing from there.

545
00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Hell, yeah, just living off that subsidy life to do

546
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,680
what What did he get to subsidy four?

547
00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, because they owned a farm, so you

548
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:30,680
just get a check.

549
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: Probably. It's a classic Simpsons quote, Grandpa, didn't you wonder

550
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:37,200
why you were getting checks in the mail? No? I

551
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,559
just thought the Democrats were in power again.

552
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 2: Ed spent the majority of his time reading POLP magazines

553
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:51,480
and adventure stories, particularly those involving cannibals and Nazi atrocities.

554
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: Now that's where the real problem comes from. Nothing to

555
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:56,640
do with his mom, so goddamn comic books.

556
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,759
Speaker 2: He became fascinated by ill, a cock who would make

557
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:05,920
tattooed concentration victims and make lamp shades and other household

558
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,000
items out of their skin.

559
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: Was that a real person? Was that?

560
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,759
Speaker 4: I think was the Bitch of Bukenwald?

561
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: Yes, that's her nickname. Good She's a real Nazi yet.

562
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 4: Big, big, burly woman. Have you ever seen a picture

563
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,839
of her? She looks like a fucking rug.

564
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:20,799
Speaker 3: Was she Gestapo?

565
00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 4: I think she was right. I don't know if she

566
00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:27,519
was Gestapo. I know that she was definitely watching over

567
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:30,200
a concentration camp, and she was the one that everybody

568
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:31,759
was afraid of even the other guards.

569
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,039
Speaker 2: God forbid, you're a Jewish man with the tattoo, which, hey,

570
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,160
you're already going to go to hell.

571
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jews with tattoos.

572
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,039
Speaker 3: Who's oh good lord, this woman is terrified.

573
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a brute.

574
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:44,799
Speaker 4: Are you looking at Elsa?

575
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,759
Speaker 3: She survived, but she died happily.

576
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: She wasn't executed.

577
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: She lived until nineteen sixty seven.

578
00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: What that's not that's not great.

579
00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: I thought for sure that she was executed. That's insane,

580
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:02,759
because she like she would walk from from what I've heard,

581
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,960
she would walk around the concentration camp like dressed scantily clad.

582
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,240
She would look like a dominant trix and she would

583
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,200
just beat the shit out of the prisoner.

584
00:29:11,359 --> 00:29:15,519
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Yeah, okay, she did go to prison

585
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:20,119
and just eventually killed herself in prison. I mean that's

586
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:21,799
a happy story, I suppose good enough.

587
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

588
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, you know, they sound like she died

589
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:28,119
in the suburbs of Des Moines.

590
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,599
Speaker 3: I say what you want about making lampshades out of people,

591
00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:36,559
but we've done episodes on this podcast where Wyoming prisons

592
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,000
used to take the death row people and after they

593
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,599
were died, they'd make fucking shoes out of them, and shit,

594
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:43,880
they'd play in those shoes. Yeah, then they'd go play

595
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,759
ball in those shoes.

596
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: That's a really fitting reference for this episode.

597
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: M How does he like baseball? He loves baseball? Baseball guy.

598
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: He likes tanning, arts and crafts. Okay.

599
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: He also got really into the topics of head shrinking

600
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,359
and human anatomy. He starts visiting his mother's grave and

601
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,519
ultimately digs up her body, rips her head off the

602
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,880
corpse with his bare hands, and shrinks her head to

603
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,000
keep him at his home or keep the head at

604
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:13,319
his home?

605
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: Aw as you do?

606
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,519
Speaker 2: Oh, shrunk in head though, would be a little little

607
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,640
How does he shrink it? How did you shrink any head?

608
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 4: Is it confirmed that shrunk and heads are real? I

609
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,759
don't know, because I don't know how the fuck that works.

610
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,519
I've heard that you have to somehow remove the skull

611
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:32,119
because obviously the skull is not gonna shrink, right, okay,

612
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,559
and then you just boil the rest.

613
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: That sounds easy.

614
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: You don't like pickle it, you.

615
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: Must you have to do something to get it to

616
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,079
shrink down. I've seen, like in real life at the

617
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,119
Ripley's believe in it or not museum in California. Yeah,

618
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:46,559
they had alleged shrunken heads there.

619
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,039
Speaker 3: Okay, he doesn't. Okay, now that doesn't sound that hard

620
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:50,359
because all you need to do is just cut out

621
00:30:50,359 --> 00:30:52,359
the back. You only see the front. Really, you only

622
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,920
show the front. Just cut out the back, pop the

623
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,480
skull out.

624
00:30:56,759 --> 00:30:58,079
Speaker 2: So you're telling me you didn't believe it.

625
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: Uh, yeahve it or not? I didn't.

626
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:03,119
Speaker 3: He says, believe it or not, you are given the option.

627
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: Natalie visits to other cemeteries became a regular occurrence. After

628
00:31:09,079 --> 00:31:13,599
reading obituaries in the paper. He targeted newly buried, middle

629
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,279
aged women to dig up and dissect to help assemble

630
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:21,279
a woman suit so he could literally crawl into their skin.

631
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:22,519
Speaker 3: Oh.

632
00:31:23,559 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: He also kind of would see if women somewhat resembled

633
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,240
his mother.

634
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: Oh, he wanted someone. He wanted to find someone who

635
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:31,720
looked like mom.

636
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,039
Speaker 4: So the psychology behind that has always confused me. Because

637
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:37,799
he was obsessed with his mom. That that makes sense,

638
00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,319
but I would think that he would want to recreate

639
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,680
his mom as opposed to becoming his mother.

640
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: We create the skin suit which he's gonna wear.

641
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,839
Speaker 4: He's not going to like stuff it and turn it

642
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,960
into a mannequin that he can cuddle up with or

643
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,400
anything like that.

644
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,319
Speaker 3: Right, literally, why not both? This ed gene is literally

645
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920
like half Psycho half Silence of the Lamps.

646
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,559
Speaker 4: It's you're picking up on some things very good reference.

647
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: I mean literally psycho. He dresses up like his normen

648
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,400
no man and then signs the lambs he wears ladies. Okay,

649
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,200
we'll just get to that.

650
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: Ed Gaan has said to be the inspiration for Norman

651
00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:20,279
Dates and Psycho, leather Face and Texas Chainsaw Massacre and

652
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,599
Buffalo Bill. In Silence of the Lambs, I nailed that one,

653
00:32:23,799 --> 00:32:25,319
so props to you.

654
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,319
Speaker 3: It's not a it's not a like difficult thing to guess.

655
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,920
You just need to have watched more than twenty movies

656
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,960
in the last forty years. They're gonna fucking You're gonna

657
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:39,920
fucking pick up on it. Leather Face I didn't think

658
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,279
of though.

659
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:44,279
Speaker 4: I think leather Face out of him is the biggest stretch.

660
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:46,680
It's just wearing somebody else's face that they kind of

661
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,440
got from ed gans.

662
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: And also leather Face is just like, uh a real

663
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:55,920
psych like just like a like a hardcore like linebacker

664
00:32:56,039 --> 00:33:00,359
motherfucker running with a chainsaw, like a real brute. Gene

665
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:01,680
doesn't strike me as a bruise.

666
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:06,519
Speaker 2: Right, He's not a Gan, fully, He's yeah, an amalgamation

667
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,519
of multiple people.

668
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,359
Speaker 3: I think ed Gan just like taught people like, oh

669
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,640
you could wear you could wear someone else's skin. I'm

670
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,720
writing that down. Face off. Yeah, at gen Nick Cage

671
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,440
inspired by was it in Cage or Travolta? That was

672
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,319
the Gaen character?

673
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it had to be. Had to be Nick Cage

674
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,039
in face Off? Yeah, he was. Nick Cage was one.

675
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,119
His character was Castro Troy. He was the one that

676
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,599
had the idea to take John Travolz's face off.

677
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,599
Speaker 3: So Travolta was originally the FBI agent or whatever.

678
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, seems like you didn't watch that movie. Huh,

679
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:45,480
I did not in your last forty years.

680
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: Not a big WU guy, Not a WU guy, Not

681
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:49,880
a WU guy.

682
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 4: Was that John Wu that did that? Yeah? Oh god,

683
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:55,160
that's gotta be one of his worst movies.

684
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:59,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's a good movie. The worst film of

685
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,799
all time by far. And this is relevant because it

686
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,200
is a history movie in the boom of World War

687
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:12,920
Two movies that came out after Saving Private Ryan that

688
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:19,000
the one that stands out as the most stunningly abysmal

689
00:34:20,519 --> 00:34:26,840
is Wind Talkers, starring Nick Natives. It's no John Wu

690
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,800
hates the Natives.

691
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 4: Wait John John Wu did Wind Talkers?

692
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,039
Speaker 3: Yeah?

693
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 4: No fucking way, Yeah, holy shit, that blows my goddamn mind.

694
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's one of the worst films I've ever seen.

695
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,199
Speaker 4: In my whole for you, there's like, no, there's no

696
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,119
war movie that I really dislike. It's kind of like

697
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,960
shark movies. If it's about sharks or war, I'm generally

698
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,360
gonna love it. Yeah, but Wind Talkers is up there

699
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,599
with I could barely even finish it.

700
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, it's unbelievably bad. Like the script is insane,

701
00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:01,559
like the side conversation they have, like at one point

702
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:04,440
Christian Slater's they're just like walking on patrol and they're like,

703
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,239
what are you gonna do after the war? What am

704
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,400
I a wall? Heard of this? He's literally his line

705
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:11,880
is like, heard of this new thing called yogurt? You

706
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,679
could put strawberries in it? I want to invest in that.

707
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,159
It's fucking crazy. It's fucking crazy.

708
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: So when Tucker's was really just a tcby origins, I.

709
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,559
Speaker 3: Guess, dude, And at another point. This definitely didn't happen.

710
00:35:25,639 --> 00:35:28,719
I think in real life, the Adam Beach's character, the

711
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,800
main like native American character. They're like pinned down in

712
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,800
order to do and he starts like putting on a

713
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,000
Japanese uniform, and Nicholas Cage Whatever's like, what are you doing?

714
00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,960
He's like, I look like a nip. I can get

715
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,639
can sneak in there. I look like a nip, all right,

716
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,159
So we're just going with every insult other than the

717
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,920
M word. Today, I'm quote that's the other end word.

718
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:55,679
I'm quoting the fucking movie. He's screaming it, like into camera,

719
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:57,960
and my first thought is like, no, you don't, No,

720
00:35:58,119 --> 00:35:58,880
you don't know.

721
00:35:59,079 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: You definitely don't.

722
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:03,599
Speaker 3: No Japanese person's gonna be fooled by you, too dark.

723
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,880
You look like a fucking Native American, not a Japanese person.

724
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,800
It's fucking well, they both have gray hair. Yeah, true,

725
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:11,199
they both have.

726
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 4: Thick black hair but growing facial hair.

727
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:21,159
Speaker 3: But like it, I mean, moment after moment of stunning.

728
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,280
At one point, they use stock footage from Desert Storm

729
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,679
to show a battleship shooting. What the fuck it's not

730
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,159
a joke, but I'll wrap up my wind Talker's rant there.

731
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 4: I got to go back and watch that movie again

732
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,280
now because I remember it's sucking, but I don't remember

733
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,599
it being that wild.

734
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: After peeling off their faces, he would shrink their heads

735
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,079
and add to his collection. Gean admitted to stealing from

736
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:53,000
nine Graves. Besides masturbation, Ed denies ever having had a

737
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,840
sexual experience in his life, and stated that he never

738
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,840
fucked the cadavers because they smelled.

739
00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:08,639
Speaker 3: Too bad as nothing stakes locking pussy. You know, it's

740
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:16,239
like a trout, Maria. You're under arrest again, Jesus, so

741
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:19,360
just execute him right there, you Yeah.

742
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,119
Speaker 2: An increase of missing persons in the area began at

743
00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:27,679
this time as well. In nineteen fifty one, Ed visited

744
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,199
a bar owned by Mary Hogan. She was a middle

745
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,119
aged woman that looked much like Ed's mother, but she

746
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,400
had a foul mouth and a bit of a history.

747
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,280
Ed was fascinated by her.

748
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: She sounds very irish, owns a bar, Mary Hogan, Mary Hogan,

749
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,800
Mary Hogan, got your dumb, fucking fatass out of here.

750
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920
You a simple little fuck looking at me with your

751
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,559
sideways high and your crooked boiled balls. Fucking credit, He's

752
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:59,679
like I must wear you. I must wear you.

753
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: They hang out for like three years. Oh, apparently he

754
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,679
doesn't bang, he doesn't smash.

755
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,079
Speaker 3: He probably could have.

756
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: Well, he only knew one good woman in his life

757
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,800
at that point and she's dead.

758
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just he just like he like wants to

759
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,719
but he keeps going into the bathroom. He's like, remember, ready,

760
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,199
whether you said flowers are disguistic, flowers are dirty, you

761
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,360
do throwing dirt.

762
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: And also promised his mother he would be a virgin.

763
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:30,559
Speaker 4: Oh oh, all right, Well he's kind of a good

764
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:33,239
man now in the in the grand scheme of things,

765
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,599
the amount of serial killers, which again I don't really

766
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:39,599
consider ed Geing to be a serial killer. He's just

767
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,880
just kind of a unique guy.

768
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:46,079
Speaker 2: Technically hasn't killed yet in this story that we that

769
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,119
we can confirm, that we can confirm.

770
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:51,119
Speaker 4: I'm still I'm really fucking sure he killed his brother.

771
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,519
I'm fairly convinced of that. No no evidence. I just

772
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:55,440
have a feeling that he.

773
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,199
Speaker 2: Kind of a hunch that he killed his brother. Also,

774
00:38:58,519 --> 00:39:02,800
maybe some people that don't really get mentioned true.

775
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,199
Speaker 4: Oh, people were disappearing all the time.

776
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's much people that missing in the area that

777
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,760
they just don't connect.

778
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 4: The amount of serial killers that have mommy issues is

779
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,360
absolutely insane.

780
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,559
Speaker 2: How many have father issues.

781
00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: When it comes to father issues, it's mostly getting head

782
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,960
injuries at a young age from their father, which he got. Which, Yeah,

783
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,800
that's along the lines of Ed Kemper. Ed Kemper's another one,

784
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,880
mommy issues and severe head injury when he was young.

785
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,599
Oh shit, all right, but it's very very common for

786
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,760
male serial killers to have big time mommy issues.

787
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,159
Speaker 2: Mary goes missing in nineteen fifty four, Ed later admitted

788
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,639
he had been hanging out with her and drinking before

789
00:39:46,159 --> 00:39:49,159
he pulled the blinds, put a twenty two caliber gun

790
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,960
to her forehead and shot her.

791
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,079
Speaker 3: Oh, boring, don't know why boring.

792
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:59,519
Speaker 4: The amount of people that kill with twenty two's is

793
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:01,159
also really really surprising.

794
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:02,519
Speaker 3: Why is it surprising?

795
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 4: Just it's such a small caliber.

796
00:40:05,039 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah that to me, you gotta do it like right

797
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,719
up close. Basically, Well, it kind of makes sense for

798
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,159
him if he wants to steal her head.

799
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,039
Speaker 4: True, it's not going to be as big of a wound.

800
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:14,800
But if you actually want to kill somebody, like when

801
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,639
I was growing up, at twenty two was considered pretty

802
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,360
much a pellet rifle, like you got a twenty two

803
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,239
when you were around like seven eight years old. Yeah, yeah,

804
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,800
you'd go and kill animals with it. But up until

805
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,679
the time you were seven or eight years old, you

806
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,519
had a pellet rifle and they were considered roughly the same. There.

807
00:40:29,039 --> 00:40:31,000
If you get right up close, they can do some damage.

808
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,639
But if I was going to actually kill somebody, a

809
00:40:32,679 --> 00:40:34,840
twenty two would not be more king get shot with

810
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,360
the twenty two.

811
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,519
Speaker 3: Uh, I think that caleber actually pretty big.

812
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a at least like a thirty

813
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:41,800
two or thirty eight.

814
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,119
Speaker 2: Or he doesn't die immediately.

815
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: Well, that's why you don't use a small round. It

816
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,159
something a little bit bigger.

817
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 3: Well, so the problem with I think that gun was

818
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,639
that So it's forty four caliber, but the dringer but

819
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,920
see here's the thing though, not a lot of force

820
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,360
behind it.

821
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 4: Oh it was a Darringer.

822
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a Darringer.

823
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,679
Speaker 4: Okay, those are the time lady guns.

824
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm not sure it had this the Again,

825
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:05,599
I'm not a gun person who gun people can light

826
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:07,480
me up for this, but my assumption will be the

827
00:41:07,519 --> 00:41:11,039
derringer uh probably did not have the oomph in it

828
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,920
in terms of force of the shot hell bro that

829
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:15,840
other guns had.

830
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,639
Speaker 4: If it was a small darringer, it could have been

831
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:19,559
a forty four caliber round, but it must not have

832
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,400
had very much power behind.

833
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 3: Right, That's what I'm getting ter talk about the gun.

834
00:41:24,599 --> 00:41:25,400
Thank you for your service.

835
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 4: Oh you're you're welcome. I'm I loved every money up.

836
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,119
Speaker 2: The day after the murder, while working with a man

837
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,079
named Elmo, he admitted to killing her.

838
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 4: There's actually been people named Elmo. Yeah, that's not just

839
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,920
a sesame street name.

840
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,519
Speaker 2: I guess it was just a normal name. Then he

841
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:46,199
admitted to killing Mary Hogan and said he hung her

842
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,760
up at his house. But Elmo dismiss said statement, I

843
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,639
don't believe in ed capable of violence.

844
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just like God, damn it. This guy is

845
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,639
so fucking weird. Sick of this shit. Keeps telling me

846
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:02,880
he's stealing bodies from the Great One, normal conversation. God,

847
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,039
he just tries to get me riled up every day.

848
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:11,079
Speaker 2: Her skull was later found in a box and peeled

849
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,360
off face in a bag at his home in nineteen

850
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,159
fifty seven. Owner of a local shop and mother of

851
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,639
Deputy Frank Warden, Bernice Warden fifty eight suddenly disappeared from.

852
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: Her store like midday, Like took a lunch break and

853
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,199
never came back. Oh man.

854
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: Deputy Warden found the cash register gone when he went

855
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,639
to check on his mother, blood on the floor, and

856
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,440
a twenty two caliber rifle that was out of place

857
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,559
on its rack upon arrival at the store.

858
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh, did you use a rifle from the store. Yeah? See,

859
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:50,079
ed Gean is just like these kids that shoplift yodorant.

860
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:51,880
Now they got to put the rifles behind glass because

861
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,760
the asshole was like him.

862
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 2: They also found a receipt for anti freeze made out

863
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,960
to ed Gean, the last sale of the day, so

864
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,880
person of interest right off the bat. So the next day,

865
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:10,679
the sheriff and Deputy Warden entered Ed's house and were

866
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,440
shocked at what they found. They found the deputy's mother's

867
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,360
headless corpse hanging upside down with her ankles lashed to

868
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,440
a wooden crossbeam. She was split open from virgina to

869
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:28,079
stirn them feel, dressed.

870
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: Like a deer. Good Lord, he found his mom like that? Yeah,

871
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,280
just split open. Jesus fucking Christ.

872
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: I can't think of a worst thing ever.

873
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:41,519
Speaker 3: Your kids basically would be the only.

874
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,039
Speaker 2: I think your mother might be worse.

875
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

876
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm not you know, I don't have kids.

877
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: I both going kids personally, But mom wouldn't sit right,

878
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:50,960
wouldn't sit well.

879
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,639
Speaker 4: It'd be a close second, I would imagine. Yeah, like

880
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,360
between mom and kids, I would say kids is definitely worse.

881
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: But saying that because your your mother's getting up there, no,

882
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,559
it's her time.

883
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,519
Speaker 3: To go now. Obviously wife wouldn't bother me. I split

884
00:44:04,599 --> 00:44:10,400
her in half all the time, sitn't it?

885
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: Also while they searched his house, authorities found and I

886
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,440
got just bullet point after bullet point, a waste basket

887
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:25,639
made of human skin.

888
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 3: As he ever did it?

889
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:31,639
Speaker 4: Koby?

890
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,639
Speaker 2: He couldn't say Kobe.

891
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,519
Speaker 3: Then what would it be? What would it be? Uh?

892
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,920
Uh Natesmith micn yeah, George Biken mic and Traill mic.

893
00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:42,840
He's just doing layups? Yeah, yeah, h.

894
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: Human skin covered several chairs, human skulls mounted on the bedpost,

895
00:44:51,599 --> 00:44:56,159
female skulls, some with the top son off. Bulls made

896
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:59,960
from human skulls, a corsett made from a female torse

897
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:04,480
so skin from shoulders to waist, leggings made from human legs,

898
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,519
mass made from the skin of human heads, or I

899
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,239
guess female heads. Mary Hogan's face mask in paper bag,

900
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,679
Mary Hogan's skull in a box, Benise Warden's entire head

901
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,519
in a burlop sack. So, yeah, you didn't just see

902
00:45:20,559 --> 00:45:22,239
her body, you saw her head.

903
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:26,519
Speaker 3: What's in the box? Well, yeah, I think we know

904
00:45:26,559 --> 00:45:30,199
where they got that then too, Hey, Steve, what's in

905
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,400
the box? Like it wasn't the same, but he did

906
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:34,639
ask what's in that box? You know, he's like they're

907
00:45:34,679 --> 00:45:37,079
seeing everything and he's like, oh God, what's in that box?

908
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 2: Bernice Warden's heart in a plastic bag in front of

909
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,599
a Geen's potbelly stove.

910
00:45:44,159 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: Oh, he was gonna eat it. He had nine volvas

911
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,679
in a shoe box.

912
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,679
Speaker 4: Okay, that's I mean, it's all pretty gross, but so

913
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,320
something I am curious about. Do you know if he

914
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,719
actually did eat any of the bodies, because he kept

915
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,840
a lot of the he kept a lot of the parts.

916
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,360
But I've never heard anything about him being a cannibal.

917
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: Right about Cannibal's didn't say anything about cannibalism.

918
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what I found. Also, why was he

919
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,840
keeping all this shit and especially the volv So I

920
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,679
guess you're eating out of like human bowls.

921
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 3: So I guess technically maybe there's some sharks. They get

922
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:20,880
into your food.

923
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, like six degrees of Kevin bacon.

924
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,199
Speaker 3: Can you can make it sharp? Bracelet out of a vola?

925
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:35,079
A nice? What? What better any from anything on anyone's

926
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:39,679
body to make a good leather cuff than a volva?

927
00:46:40,119 --> 00:46:41,679
Speaker 4: I mean a butthhole would be pretty good too.

928
00:46:42,159 --> 00:46:46,079
Speaker 3: I yeah, true, you gotta loosen that thing up though, Yeah,

929
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,480
you gotta stretch that one out.

930
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, A young girl's dress and the volvas of two

931
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:54,000
females hushed to have been around fifteen years old.

932
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 4: Wonderful, Okay, And just to clarify, by a volva, he's

933
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:01,559
just like putting a vagina through a Deli slicer, like

934
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,159
just taking off, taking off the outside or is it

935
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,199
the entire thing? Volva is like the outside, just the outside,

936
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:10,760
So it's like you put it through a I don't

937
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,559
know what that means.

938
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,079
Speaker 3: To volva's the whole fucking thing. Volvas is the whole

939
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:21,159
fucking outside. Labia majora monora, clit everything.

940
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: Yep. So it's like a scalping but downstairs, yes it's nice. Yeah, yeah,

941
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,280
good bracelet. I'm with you on that one.

942
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, well leather cuff. He's a man.

943
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,199
Speaker 2: A belt made from female human nipples?

944
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,079
Speaker 3: How how I don't know.

945
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: Man, So you guys, there's actually a picture of it.

946
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,519
You can find a picture of it online. Really, yeah,

947
00:47:47,559 --> 00:47:49,599
there's there's pictures of some of the stuff that that

948
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:50,360
edging made.

949
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know if we can show that on YouTube.

950
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 4: It's I mean, it is a nipple made out of

951
00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:59,400
human belts, but a belt made out of human nipples too.

952
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:07,960
But it's not super good. You found it? Oh yeah,

953
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,320
we could.

954
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: We could probably show.

955
00:48:11,119 --> 00:48:13,559
Speaker 4: This, I mean, yeah, I think, I mean, it's not bloody.

956
00:48:13,679 --> 00:48:16,519
There's no there's replicas that you can find of it online.

957
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:18,159
You could post a picture of the replica. They're all

958
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,880
pretty accurate. But you know, all three of us know

959
00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:25,400
somebody that have a movie quality replica of that nipple

960
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,039
belt is Joel No, No, surprisingly it's not. It's uh,

961
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,880
it's been from Jane l Barbecue. He's got one. He's

962
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,599
going to bring it into the studio so we can use.

963
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: It on Well.

964
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: Now I believe of Leroy and Lewis, I don't love that.

965
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,559
The gentleman we know who is an expert with meats,

966
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:45,679
owns a nipple belt.

967
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 4: He also has a chainsaw signed by the guy who

968
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:50,000
played leather.

969
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: Face Love that the man we know who professionally butchered

970
00:48:57,079 --> 00:49:01,159
is the one with the bulls and the.

971
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:07,199
Speaker 2: They found four loose noses just about well at this.

972
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 4: Point in the junk drawer next to like some paper clips.

973
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 3: It's like finding paper clips in an office at this point.

974
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,519
Speaker 2: A pair of lips on a window shade drawstring.

975
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:23,079
Speaker 4: That's another description that I just don't understand, Like how

976
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,280
how deep is he cutting in.

977
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,079
Speaker 3: To get the whole circle right? So it's like on

978
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:32,360
the draw string that you pulled down, So he's getting

979
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,960
enough lip that he can dry it out, make sure

980
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,039
it's hard and he can.

981
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: Oh, so it's like a little loop that you can grab.

982
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:41,639
Speaker 3: Gotcha, that's my guess.

983
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,079
Speaker 4: That makes sense. That makes sense.

984
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: A lamp shade made from the skin of the human face,

985
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:49,519
so he full blown bitch of boken Wall the concentration camps.

986
00:49:49,559 --> 00:49:51,559
He he read about her and he's like, I gotta

987
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:55,760
do it. And then fingernails from female fingers, So.

988
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 4: That's just disgusting.

989
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: You wonder I wonder if an Nazis with that chick

990
00:50:01,519 --> 00:50:07,320
were just like you know, yeah, we should be viping

991
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,280
them out, but this is just getting egregious. This is

992
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,599
a little much. Yeah, I just it's not efficient at all.

993
00:50:14,039 --> 00:50:17,000
There's nothing efficient about this. She's holding it up. She

994
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:19,440
pulls them out to the gastline to skins them. They

995
00:50:19,559 --> 00:50:21,159
need to just they just go in and it's done.

996
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 4: But then, you love your job. You never fuck a

997
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,199
day in your life.

998
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:27,159
Speaker 3: Taking too much time.

999
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 2: During the questions, Sheriff Art Shelley reportedly assaulted Gaen by

1000
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,119
banging his head and face into a brick wall. Really,

1001
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,000
not the deputy whose mother was found hung up.

1002
00:50:42,119 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: It wasn't even him that it was a sheriff.

1003
00:50:44,519 --> 00:50:46,639
Speaker 3: I guess he did it on behalf of his deputy. Yeah,

1004
00:50:46,679 --> 00:50:49,119
I think that's fair, and.

1005
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: People respect a chain of command a lot more back then.

1006
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: But as a result, Gene's initial confession was ruled inadmissible

1007
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,719
because he had head trauma. Yeah, from his head being

1008
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,480
slam in to a brick wall.

1009
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 3: He's fucking concussed. It doesn't it's not, yeah, admissible at

1010
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,159
that point.

1011
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: Shelley died of a heart failure in nineteen sixty eight

1012
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,360
at the age of forty three, before Geen's trial.

1013
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 3: Wait, who did the sheriff Okay, not the deputy Nope, okay.

1014
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: Many who knew the sheriff said he was traumatized by

1015
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,480
the horror of Gean's crimes, and this, along with the

1016
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:27,360
fear of having to testify, especially about assaulting Green, caused

1017
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,639
his death. I mean, it's out of another body.

1018
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: You just don't You just don't see things like that,

1019
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,719
you know what I mean. At that point we were

1020
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,519
rural Middle America, even like Jack the Ripper, like they

1021
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:45,039
were gnarly crime scenes, I know, but I'm just saying,

1022
00:51:45,159 --> 00:51:48,960
is they were gnarly crime scenes or like Jack the Ripper,

1023
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,400
the alleged Jack the Ripper who before you went to London,

1024
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,079
the Austin Servant girl Annihilator, that's not the case that

1025
00:51:57,119 --> 00:51:59,719
we already I understand that the alleged it was alleged

1026
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,519
in have been the same. Like those are gnarly crime scenes.

1027
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,400
But like at the end of the day, it doesn't

1028
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,760
look any different than like if you find an old

1029
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,880
hobo who got hit by a train, you know what

1030
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,800
I mean, Like it's just a body all ripped up. Well,

1031
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,719
once you get into that.

1032
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: Anytime the train stops and says they hit an animal

1033
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,119
or there's a maintenance issue, it's because they hit a hobo.

1034
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: Well every time they they did say they hit an animal,

1035
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,400
So yeah, as far as I'm concerned, But no, like

1036
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,960
that would be fucked up. But at the same time,

1037
00:52:35,039 --> 00:52:37,920
it's like you've kind of seen that before, you know,

1038
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,519
or in this case, like a car accident or something

1039
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:44,280
like car accidents before glass got good were fucked like

1040
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,280
fucked up.

1041
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:47,159
Speaker 2: It was just glass.

1042
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: It was just fucking window glass. People would just get obliterated,

1043
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:58,239
just be freaks. But this like finding that type of shit,

1044
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,519
like there's just no oh fucking way there that even

1045
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:03,760
had a precedent in the United States of America.

1046
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 4: Now I'm with you on that one. I think that's

1047
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,800
why this case is stuck around for so long and

1048
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,880
become like the inspiration for leather Face, for Norman Bates,

1049
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:16,679
everything like that. The reason that came about is, like

1050
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,039
I said, he to me, he wasn't really a serial killer.

1051
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,239
He was just a fucked up guy that killed a

1052
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,920
few people, not far off from a serial killer, but

1053
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:29,760
the brutality of it and just how the insane things

1054
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,840
that he did with the bodies.

1055
00:53:31,039 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: But it was mostly dead chicks Yeah, it was enough

1056
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:35,239
to stick.

1057
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,039
Speaker 4: In the in the minds of everybody that saw it

1058
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,119
and start start passing it down because, like what you

1059
00:53:40,199 --> 00:53:42,760
were getting at, people were dying every single day in

1060
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,679
horrific ways back in those days. But the fact that

1061
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,599
he was doing all this extra weird shit that kind

1062
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:51,400
of entered it into the zeitgeist of America.

1063
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a new one. This one's special.

1064
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 4: Telling my kids about this one.

1065
00:53:57,559 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. In addition to the murders of Hogan and war,

1066
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,840
Geen is also considered a suspect in a dozen other

1067
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,559
unsolved cases in Wisconsin that he never admits to. But yeah,

1068
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,920
they kind of like he probably did it. I mean,

1069
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,280
including like an eight year old One does not just

1070
00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:21,880
happen upon fifteen year old volvas. One must acquire.

1071
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: Fifteen year olds are dying anyway, like of natural causes

1072
00:54:26,199 --> 00:54:29,679
or disease. He's not digging up like freshly buried fifteen

1073
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:30,079
year old.

1074
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,599
Speaker 3: No, especially if this is in like the nineteen fifties

1075
00:54:32,639 --> 00:54:35,159
and stuff like that, We're really starting to get like

1076
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,679
child mortality really under control at that point in terms

1077
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,840
of like vaccinations and even car accidents and stuff like that.

1078
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:46,280
Like kids aren't just getting a fever and falling over anymore.

1079
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,840
It's fucking tile at all. Yeah, I mean it's making

1080
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,920
them all autistic, I guess or whatever. But I don't

1081
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,960
believe that theory, by the way. But it's a fun

1082
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:59,280
joke that everyone's doing hop in on it. Yeah, why not?

1083
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,880
But uh yeah, he he went out and got those

1084
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:10,280
fulvas fresh, much like your friend and the pig.

1085
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 4: Thank god he didn't. He didn't cut that pig's volvo

1086
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,599
off for us. I would have been really traumatized.

1087
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,159
Speaker 2: On November twenty first, nineteen fifty seven, and Gean was

1088
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,199
charged on one account of first screen murder, where he

1089
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,760
pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. He was diagnosed

1090
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,639
with schizophrenia and found mentally incompetent, thus unfit for trial.

1091
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,760
Gean was sent to Central State Hospital for the criminally Insane.

1092
00:55:39,079 --> 00:55:42,239
In nineteen sixty eight, doctors determined Geen was mentally able

1093
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,559
to confer with counsel and participate in his defense. The

1094
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:50,960
trial began November seventh, nineteen sixty eight, and lasted one week.

1095
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,639
Speaker 3: Feel like it wouldn't take long like the prosecutions. Just

1096
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,079
like ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I could give

1097
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:03,119
you a lot of any words. But here is just

1098
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:05,639
a parade of pictures of everything we found in this house.

1099
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,679
Speaker 4: I give you exhibit a nipple belt.

1100
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:10,679
Speaker 2: You can just bring it in.

1101
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he just wears it in the passing it around.

1102
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:17,760
They haven't even told them what it is yet. They're like,

1103
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,960
what this is a strength belt? Like this is a

1104
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,039
belt made from dead women's nipples that ed Gen fashion.

1105
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:23,920
There's no Jerry though.

1106
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: So a psychiatrist testified that Gen had told him that

1107
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,960
he did not know whether the killing of Warden was

1108
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:37,039
intentional or accidental. Gen was also told or told him

1109
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:40,280
that he examined a gun in warden shop. The weapon

1110
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,679
discharged and killed Warden. So the gun was a part

1111
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:44,679
of the shop, and he's just messed with.

1112
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:50,199
Speaker 4: He claims, it's not people that kill people, it's guns.

1113
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,679
Speaker 2: Yes, he claimed to not have aimed it at Warden

1114
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,199
and did not remember anything else that happened that morning.

1115
00:56:56,519 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: Well, it's a rough story to believe in the first place.

1116
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,519
But what you've got like fifty yards of human skin

1117
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,079
in your house, that doesn't help.

1118
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1119
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: At the request of his defense, Gen's trial was held

1120
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,599
without a jury. Judge Robert H. Goldmar was presided and

1121
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,440
found Geen guilty. On November fourteenth, a second trial dealt

1122
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,239
with Geen's sanity. After testimony by doctors for the prosecution

1123
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,039
and defense, Gomar ruled that Geen was not guilty by

1124
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:33,719
reason of insanity, and he spent the rest of his

1125
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,960
life in a mental hospital.

1126
00:57:35,639 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 3: Oh so you just got to like eat jello and

1127
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,480
watch cartoons for the next thirty years. It doesn't sound

1128
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:47,159
that bad. Honestly, In many ways, that's winning the lottery.

1129
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,559
Speaker 4: Probably better than going to prison, but not by much.

1130
00:57:51,679 --> 00:57:55,320
Have you guys seen footage from early mental asylums. Pretty

1131
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,239
much everything is covered in human shit and there's just

1132
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,800
naked psychos every.

1133
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen one flew over the cuckoos nus.

1134
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,039
Speaker 4: It's kind of close. But Jack Nicholson is a little

1135
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,639
bit more modestly dressed compared to most of the mental

1136
00:58:08,719 --> 00:58:10,559
patients that I've seen from you know.

1137
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,199
Speaker 3: Fiftubana is Yeah, especially if you couldn't afford like one

1138
00:58:16,239 --> 00:58:19,000
of the nice ones to send your like you know,

1139
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:22,440
like there's a cousin in the rich family who's killing hookers.

1140
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 4: Like where they sent which one of the Kennedy daughters

1141
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:24,719
was it?

1142
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, because they drilled a hole in her brea

1143
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:33,039
rose sounds right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they sent her to

1144
00:58:33,079 --> 00:58:33,519
a good one.

1145
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:36,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope so, because god damn they had a

1146
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:36,679
lot of money for it.

1147
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,599
Speaker 2: I mean, you can see a bad mental hospital these

1148
00:58:38,679 --> 00:58:40,000
days just on the streets of Austin.

1149
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean the forest is the mental hospital.

1150
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,119
Speaker 4: Now, that's what replaced.

1151
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, send them back to the woods.

1152
00:58:50,719 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 4: They're practicing free range mental health.

1153
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: It is like, as long as you ban camping in

1154
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,960
the cities, the woods become a free range mental instance.

1155
00:59:02,119 --> 00:59:05,599
Every forest here is the forbidden forest. Fucking don't go

1156
00:59:05,719 --> 00:59:06,079
into it.

1157
00:59:06,639 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: It's like the Lion, the Witch, and the wardrobe, except

1158
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:10,519
everybody is just a fucking crack abbit.

1159
00:59:10,519 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: And at night you will see someone eating a unicorn's neck.

1160
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:18,400
And there's not like a scary gate to get into

1161
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,800
the entrance. But it's just shopping carts. Yeah, shopping carts.

1162
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,480
That would actually be super impressive.

1163
00:59:26,639 --> 00:59:29,119
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you about that. No, my old place

1164
00:59:29,159 --> 00:59:31,000
for ever, said ranch off Mopackage.

1165
00:59:31,039 --> 00:59:34,559
Speaker 3: I know the general that there was a campsite.

1166
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: There, campsite, but the entrance for the campsite it was

1167
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:41,679
just like kind of impressively built entrance or like a

1168
00:59:42,239 --> 00:59:44,800
Arc de Triomph built out of shopping carts.

1169
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:53,079
Speaker 3: That's fucking fucking rap. That's absolutely great. That's not even

1170
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:55,840
that's not a homeless encampment. That's a pirate kingdom.

1171
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: I would take that at a wedding over a balloon arch.

1172
00:59:58,559 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1173
00:59:58,840 --> 00:59:59,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1174
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: Gean's property was appraised and scheduled to be auctioned on

1175
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:07,880
March thirtieth, nineteen fifty eight, but amidst swimmers that the

1176
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,559
house and the land it stood on might become a

1177
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:14,239
tourist attraction, somebody started a fire on the morning of

1178
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,440
March twentieth and destroyed the house.

1179
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:20,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels right to do that, to burn it all.

1180
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: Gan died at the Mendota Mental Hospital Institute due to

1181
01:00:26,679 --> 01:00:32,159
respiratory failure on July twenty sixth, nineteen four, the age

1182
01:00:32,199 --> 01:00:33,679
of seventy seven, choked.

1183
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: On a nipple.

1184
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,239
Speaker 3: Wow, he got all the way to seventy seven. That's

1185
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:40,000
a good life. I'm telling you. It sounds like he

1186
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:41,760
just ate yello and watched cartoons.

1187
01:00:43,119 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: That was probably what he wanted in the first place.

1188
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,679
Speaker 3: What I'm imagining, even though he died in the eighties

1189
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:51,920
is the mental institution from twelve monkeys that Bradford is

1190
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,320
in where like it's not great, but there's not people

1191
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,719
like constantly smearing feces on the wall. You can just

1192
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,519
get your pills and watch cartoons.

1193
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 4: It's kind of fun here.

1194
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but someone will be screaming in your ear every

1195
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,159
twenty minutes about like crabs coming out of the vents

1196
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:09,719
or something.

1197
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, but at least in that situation, it's like

1198
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,599
a proto Tyler Durden that's doing it isposedly, just an

1199
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:16,039
actual fucking insane pa.

1200
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:16,239
Speaker 1: Yah.

1201
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1202
01:01:17,559 --> 01:01:21,559
Speaker 2: Over the years, souvenir seekers shipped away pieces from his gravestone,

1203
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,639
until the stone itself was stolen in the year two thousand.

1204
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,719
It was recovered in June two thousand and one near Seattle, Washington,

1205
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,960
and was placed in storage at his hometown County Sheriff's department.

1206
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:38,199
Gean was then buried next to his parents in the

1207
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,840
Plainfield Cemetery, and his gravesite is still left unmarked.

1208
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:46,119
Speaker 3: Probably for the best. That's really fucking weird that anyone

1209
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:46,599
would do that.

1210
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 4: Well, i mean, God forbid somebody dig him up and

1211
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:49,599
take his skin.

1212
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it actually seems very poetic.

1213
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, someone should take his skin if they haven't already.

1214
01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:58,199
Speaker 4: I mean, make a ball out of his head. That'd

1215
01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:00,559
be Could you imagine if he actually owned.

1216
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: A bowld on a game bowl?

1217
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 4: That would be cool as hell.

1218
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,199
Speaker 2: Although this is my apartment, I don't know if I

1219
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:09,480
want a human skull in my place.

1220
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 4: Dude, any kind of collectibles like that. Like I'm I'm

1221
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,960
super into owning stuff like.

1222
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 2: We could if I could, we put it in a jar,

1223
01:02:16,719 --> 01:02:19,599
we shrink it. You could shrink it because otherwise, if

1224
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,559
it's just hanging on the couch, Chase would eat it.

1225
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,079
Speaker 3: All I ever think about. Yeah, he would. He would

1226
01:02:24,119 --> 01:02:25,280
lick that thing raw.

1227
01:02:25,559 --> 01:02:27,519
Speaker 4: It would be a good treat for a chomping on it.

1228
01:02:27,719 --> 01:02:30,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be brittle, he would chomp right through it.

1229
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,559
Speaker 4: Yeah. Probably at this point, not.

1230
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 3: Even any marrow in their forum at that point, you know.

1231
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 4: I mean overall, I'm I'm still not convinced that ed

1232
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:43,400
Gean should be up there listed with other serial killers,

1233
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,920
because a lot of times he's he's listed alongside like

1234
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:52,079
Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy ed Kemper, which ed Kemper

1235
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:53,760
lied about a lot of the crimes that he committed,

1236
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,599
But to me, he just seemed like a damaged mama's boy.

1237
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,519
Speaker 2: He's an inspiration, though he I probably led to several copycats.

1238
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: True, also an inspiration in the fact that he grew

1239
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,599
up with an overbearing mother, only killed a handful of people,

1240
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:10,400
and lived to a ripe old age.

1241
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean, he for sure killed more than the what

1242
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,800
to him, definitely killed his brother, two that he is

1243
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,400
credited for, and third that we're pretty sure about brother.

1244
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,800
He's got at he's got double digits. Where to get

1245
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,800
those fifteen year old volves? Where to get the vulvas?

1246
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: That all the information that I've heard about It's been

1247
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,320
a while since I've researched it, but all the information

1248
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,440
that I heard about him is he he was a

1249
01:03:32,519 --> 01:03:35,639
prolific grave digger or a grave robber. He was so

1250
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,199
he would dig up corpses, he would keep an eye

1251
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:41,159
on who was being buried and if it was anybody.

1252
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: They wanted to get. Fifteen year olds died.

1253
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:47,239
Speaker 4: Uh, But how many how many young volvas did he have?

1254
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: Yes, two I think I remember.

1255
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: But also community same time, there's a bunch of people

1256
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,079
that started going missing.

1257
01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:55,159
Speaker 3: Like thet girl. Yeah that's the thing.

1258
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still don't classify him as a serial killer.

1259
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:03,480
But I think that maybe he should have spent some

1260
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,159
time in prison. He probably should went to just a little.

1261
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:12,519
Speaker 3: Bit, or just executed or some miracle that deputy didn't

1262
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,480
put his pistol in Dean's mouth.

1263
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: He apparently was happy that his house burned down.

1264
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:24,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just not but he did it. Yeah, he

1265
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:24,519
probably did.

1266
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: The deputy probably burned his house down.

1267
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: I think this is as far as self restraint goes.

1268
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,880
This is on the Mount Mount rushmore of self restraints.

1269
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:43,360
To find your mom being field dressed. It's tough scene.

1270
01:04:43,639 --> 01:04:47,719
And not immediately, I mean, do what Brad Pitt did

1271
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,119
in seven right, fucking execute him.

1272
01:04:50,199 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 2: What's in the box or just yeah, as soon as

1273
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,400
he comes across ed gets home, when they're there, he

1274
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:57,599
just smashes him over.

1275
01:04:57,639 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 3: And it's like a dude who probably even if you're

1276
01:05:01,639 --> 01:05:04,639
even if you like him or don't think about him,

1277
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,400
is pretty punishable.

1278
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: Respectable member of the community.

1279
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:09,519
Speaker 3: Rob No, I think he looks like a fucking weird

1280
01:05:09,679 --> 01:05:11,079
like it did look very odd.

1281
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely had a punchable face.

1282
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:18,599
Speaker 3: It's like, bumbulo, don't wave your flower up me. I

1283
01:05:18,639 --> 01:05:20,679
don't want to. You're just like God, I want to

1284
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:23,119
punch this fucking guy in the face. And now instead

1285
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,079
of him just coming in and saying something weird and

1286
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:30,639
off putting, your mother is split open and hanging upside

1287
01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:31,920
down from the ceiling, headless.

1288
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:35,519
Speaker 2: It's like, I feel like the most important detail.

1289
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 3: It is maybe one of the greatest acts of self

1290
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,559
restraint in human history. He wouldn't have even gotten in

1291
01:05:44,639 --> 01:05:45,280
trouble for it.

1292
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: I mean, it really should have ended like the reverse

1293
01:05:48,119 --> 01:05:50,639
of what is it the end of Devil's Rejects, where

1294
01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:53,320
there's that long pull out shot of one of the

1295
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,599
firefly Flame family holding the pistol to the sheriff's head. Yeah,

1296
01:05:57,119 --> 01:06:02,920
switch that around in just a long, long anticipation until

1297
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,559
you just canoes that guy's head.

1298
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: All right, I think it's pretty easy here. But who's

1299
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,000
today's hitler?

1300
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead, the mom.

1301
01:06:11,039 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question. I was gonna say Ed's mom

1302
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,760
always blame women.

1303
01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it wasn't his fault.

1304
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: He seems like a stand up guy.

1305
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:27,639
Speaker 3: And honestly sound like his fault. No chance from the jump.

1306
01:06:28,719 --> 01:06:31,159
I will just say this. As the only one raising children,

1307
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:36,159
you have no idea how easy it is to fuck

1308
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:40,840
a child like you can tell them anything, and they'll

1309
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:41,360
believe it.

1310
01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 2: I can though, Yeah, I know which one of your

1311
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,079
kids are going to be a problem.

1312
01:06:46,519 --> 01:06:47,239
Speaker 3: There's three of them.

1313
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: There's no way all of them would be saints.

1314
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: No, it's true. I mean, the only one he doesn't

1315
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,400
give me trouble now is the baby. But i'll tell

1316
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:01,519
you what too quiet. Rory's the mama's boy, but.

1317
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: Finn is the temper Ooh that's yeah, I have my

1318
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:06,599
own Fin.

1319
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 3: Oh, Finn was your boy for a while.

1320
01:07:10,119 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 2: I'm back on Rory.

1321
01:07:11,639 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 3: Oh you like Rory now?

1322
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,079
Speaker 2: Rory dapped me up? He did, he did, It's all it.

1323
01:07:16,119 --> 01:07:18,719
Speaker 3: Text, you gotta be nice to me. Finn has already

1324
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,239
learned how to closed fist punch. Don't know who taught him,

1325
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,599
and he's punched me in the face multiple times. It's

1326
01:07:25,679 --> 01:07:28,280
just natural for him. Yeah, he's coming.

1327
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: It's Oh, I didn't tell you. I mean I had

1328
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,440
Finn over the other day for the FC fights.

1329
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

1330
01:07:34,199 --> 01:07:35,719
Speaker 2: So he didn't learn from the best.

1331
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,199
Speaker 3: He did come home pretty late the other night and

1332
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,559
I asked him he's two? Where he was? He said, ship?

1333
01:07:42,679 --> 01:07:47,719
Fuck up there? Fine, bitch, pussy, yeah, bitch, and then

1334
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:52,039
he went upstairs. He called you the N word. He

1335
01:07:52,159 --> 01:07:53,920
didn't call me it, but he was using it.

1336
01:07:59,159 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: Today's hitler is Finn Finn Fox like middle child.

1337
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 4: I like this kid. He's either he's either going to

1338
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,519
be a felon or he's going to be a powerhouse.

1339
01:08:07,639 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a politician. You won't stop him. Oh yeah,

1340
01:08:11,719 --> 01:08:14,599
I just he clearly hit something with my car. And

1341
01:08:14,679 --> 01:08:15,800
that's kind of the worst part.

1342
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,119
Speaker 2: You guys learn anything today, like to.

1343
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: Learn what he hit with my car seemed alive. Well,

1344
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:27,840
you know, there's a lot of deer that run across

1345
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,840
the street here, what fingers crossed?

1346
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,279
Speaker 4: Well I learned that you probably shouldn't give car keys

1347
01:08:33,319 --> 01:08:33,840
to children.

1348
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,199
Speaker 3: Yeah he shouldn't.

1349
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,399
Speaker 2: Well he didn't give him the keys, No, Yeah, I

1350
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,479
gave give and give it.

1351
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 3: He stole them, took it.

1352
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 4: Oh god, you can't even leave him laying out on

1353
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:42,840
the table.

1354
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 3: Fin takes what he wants, takes what he wants.

1355
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 4: Dude, I think that I think that kid's going to

1356
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:48,399
be a CEO.

1357
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 3: He's driven. Maybe, Yeah, it was weird being my wife

1358
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,159
got real sleepy. He brought us these he he was like, Bobby, Daddy,

1359
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:57,920
I got you juice, and then I woke up like

1360
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:05,199
three hours later. You think he puts something in.

1361
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 2: It throws you a pack of smoke, so you never leave.

1362
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean he will bump me a cigarette

1363
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,520
every now and then if I'm pretty drunk. He's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah,

1364
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:17,399
it's cool like that.

1365
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 4: It's a good kid smokes parliaments he does. Oh and

1366
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,119
he smokes parliaments too. My nephew is on Marboro lights.

1367
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:25,039
Speaker 3: Cool.

1368
01:09:26,239 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm just glad they're not vaping.

1369
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, me too. It's probably glad he's not taken

1370
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:31,119
after me.

1371
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 3: Never I would be angrier at my child. I would

1372
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,479
actually legitimately be angry at any of my kids for

1373
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,319
vaping than for smoking cigarette a cigarettes are organic, plant based,

1374
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:45,640
but also, like cigarettes are way easier to quit than

1375
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,399
a vape, you could vape whenever. That's the other The

1376
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:50,279
problem with vase is all I just vape all day.

1377
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,760
You won't smoke. We're like conditioned to not smoke inside as.

1378
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 4: As a vapor. I one percent agree. Yeah, I vape

1379
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,159
more than I ever smoked. At one point in my life,

1380
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:02,359
I was up to like a pack and a half

1381
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:04,840
to two packs a day. I still weight more than

1382
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:05,640
I ever see.

1383
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I feel bad about my zinning. I'm like, God,

1384
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,920
damn id like six sin. His wife still doesn't know.

1385
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:11,439
He sins.

1386
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 4: We'll keep that under wraps. He's got to stop getting

1387
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,760
them from his kid. His kid's about I.

1388
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 3: Can probably pin it on Finn, but he will.

1389
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,279
Speaker 2: It's not un believable though, because obviously he calls his

1390
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:24,800
dad a bitch.

1391
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 3: Where he using zin?

1392
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,199
Speaker 4: So Zen's got Finn's got straight up like he does

1393
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,399
in Chief Chow.

1394
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he mixes it with big League Chow.

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It's just the last time I got them though, The

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last time I got him in trouble with you know,

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his mom my wife. It was a bad It was

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bad timing because we had just we just bought him

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like tube socks, and so he emptied his piggy bank

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into one and came into the bedroom at like three

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in the morning, just went to town on you. Yeah,

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on my ribs and stomach. We couldn't shoot the show

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the other day because a giant black eye. It was bad. Yeah,

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I put makeup on it so then covered up it.

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Just he's a monster, but I love him. It's yours.

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I think.

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Speaker 4: Hey, there's there's plenty of metal honor recipe instead of

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taken part in a blanket party at some point in

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their life.

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Speaker 3: That's true, He's gonna be a great man. Really, If

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any of your your dead friends attach their souls onto

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one of my children, it's Finn.

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Speaker 2: That's this whole thing. He thinks one of my dead friends,

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that odd from Heroin is now on as child.

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Speaker 4: Wait one of how many do you have?

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Speaker 3: Several? Yeah, that's just Dollar County Baker's good old Delco.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that's our episode for today. Thanks for tuning in, Coop,

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thanks for joining.

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Speaker 4: Dude, thanks for having me. Perfect happy to be here.

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It's great good to hang out with you, guys. I

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got to see Bob all the time now, but I

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don't get.

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Speaker 3: To see anymore.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, thanks for having me. If you guys want

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to tune into some more crime content, you can check

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01:11:54,119 --> 01:11:56,800
out Crime Corner with Jesse Weisman on Spotify. We got

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a new episode each week. We just did Robert Eugene

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Brasher is the guy who was behind the yogurt shot murders.

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Breaking news and it was actually you that that gave

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me the tip. I freaked out when I get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we just did the episode. I was on

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it with the yo yogurt shot murders.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was right around the time with the Netflix documentary.

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Speaker 3: And then a month later they solved it, and I've

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got probably not a coincidence.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, I was going to say, I have a

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feeling that it got that crime corner boost. There's going

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to be a handful of more cold cases that we've

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covered that that are going to end up getting solved.

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Speaker 3: All that was like the Jack the Ripper of Austin,

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you know what I mean, like rocked the city.

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Speaker 4: I dude, honestly, I was sure that that wasn't going

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to get solved. I thought for sure that case was

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never going to get solved. I was blown away when

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they actually tracked it down to just one person.

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Speaker 2: So go listen to that.

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Speaker 3: The guy is an absolute psychoto, like his rap sheet

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is so it's like a CVS received. Just the crazy

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thing about him is how he kept getting out of.

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Speaker 2: J over behavior apparently until like last year. If you

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just were well behaved in prison, you got out.

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Speaker 3: He was. They were like, well, I know he keeps

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beating women and trying to kill them, but he was well.

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Speaker 4: Behaved in jail, cleaned up after him.

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Speaker 3: So I think he's learned something. What he learned is

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that he just knows to be nice in jail.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Check out our Patreon Patreon dot com slash softcore history

1459
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,399
where you get two additional episodes every week. They drop

1460
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:32,039
on Wednesday and Friday. We do spooky episodes there for

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the month of October as well. We've already done two.

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We did an episode on the Mary Celeste, which was

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the ship that was just found without a crew in

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the middle of the sea. Yeah, and then we did

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the Ghost to the Alamo.

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Speaker 3: No, we've we've done three because we did the Ghosts

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of the Alamo and we did the Oxford.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you also you went early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we got three spooky episodes on the Patreon

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right now, and then we have two more coming this week,

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two more than next week, and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 3: Also about four.

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Speaker 2: Years now of additional content that is only on Patreon.

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It's not anywhere else. We do these episodes for the

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people to pay us and love us the most.

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Speaker 3: We'll give you a lot of content and it's all evergreen. Yeah,

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,039
I mean, we try to keep it ever green, do

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our best.

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Speaker 2: So go listen to Crime Corner. Go subscribe to our Patreon.

1481
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,199
Fuck it, go listen to our back catalog.

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01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:27,239
Speaker 3: Go listen to the old episodes for uh, there's a

1483
01:14:27,279 --> 01:14:30,359
whole playlist on YouTube right now with the Halloween whoor

1484
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:35,319
Night episodes. Oh sick Halloween five years, so five years

1485
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,399
of just the three episodes are on the YouTube alone,

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so probably twenty subscribe.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe to the YouTube if you haven't already, even if

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01:14:41,239 --> 01:14:43,800
you only listen to the audio, just subscribe to YouTube.

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01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,319
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, seriously, just subscribe. Just subscribing helps.

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01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:50,279
Speaker 4: Yeah. Funny thing about history is it never seems to

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go out of style, right, And as we like.

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 3: To say, leave it on for the dog.

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Speaker 4: Leave it on for the dog.

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01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,279
Speaker 2: Somebody told me they've listened to us for like twenty

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01:14:59,319 --> 01:14:59,880
straight hours on.

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Speaker 3: A car trip. Never don't do that. Would not recommend

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You're gonna you're gonna hate us. Yeah, like I would

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appreci yeah, even appreciate, Like I would recommend listening to us.

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But that's like if it's like if someone was like, dude,

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I want I'm gonna have sex tonight, I'd be like,

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oh cool, dude, and they're like, yeah, I'm gonna have

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sex for next twenty hours straight. I'm like, no, that'll

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01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:21,039
hurt your penis. Don't do it. You're not gonna come anymore. Yeah,

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01:15:21,159 --> 01:15:24,119
Like you shouldn't do that for that long. You shouldn't

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01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:25,600
do anything for twenty hours.

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Speaker 2: Nothing excess, Always a moderation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for Matt Coop

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Speaker 2: Brother Fox, I'm Damna Jester and you just got Saucer