WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:03.720 Well, the sports is going on in here. See there 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.679 are lines from Blazing Saddles, the movie that can be 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.560 quoted on air. Gry Jeff Walker, welcoming you to a 4 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.759 rare night tap in the middle of Reds baseball season, 5 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:17.120 a season that has been up and been down and 6 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:20.239 lately down again as we saw in the series this 7 00:00:20.559 --> 00:00:23.879 last weekend with the Houston Astros coming back home tomorrow night, 8 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:27.160 a rare Reds off day on a Monday, and it's 9 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:30.679 great to be with you. Just keep this in mind, 10 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:34.880 Reds fans, if they score ten runs in the first 11 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.000 inning and any game this season, don't expect them to 12 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:40.960 score again for the next two or three games. That 13 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.799 may be a good or bad thing. Again, with a 14 00:00:43.880 --> 00:00:49.560 game tomorrow night at GABP a rain allowing, and there 15 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:53.200 is some wet weather scheduled this week, we'll see what happens, 16 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.759 won't we. Mother Nature can be the Red's biggest nemesis 17 00:00:56.799 --> 00:01:00.200 on this homestand of the beginning of it. Anyway, We'll 18 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.359 keep you posted, obviously, But on Wednesday night, we're hoping 19 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:08.359 for the rain to hold off because this is one 20 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:14.000 of the most special Reds special games in a long 21 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:18.760 long time. Maybe not in the franchise's history, but certainly 22 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.519 in modern baseball times and for fans of Pete Rose. 23 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:27.840 The Pete Rose Celebration Night coming up Wednesday at the ballpark, 24 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:32.920 and this first hour is dedicated to Peter Edward Rhodes 25 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.680 and that special celebration. And in just a few minutes 26 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:41.439 we will have the one and only Mom Egger joining 27 00:01:41.519 --> 00:01:43.560 us to talk about all of the things that he's 28 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:48.159 got planned and we've got planned leading up to the 29 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.680 six forty first pitch on Wednesday night, along with the 30 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:54.159 fur Ball and the wild Man, two of the biggest 31 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:58.680 Pete Rose fans I know, and we'll hear from them. 32 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:01.480 But there's more than that to this show. Later on 33 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.280 we will have my friend Rick Robinson, the author of 34 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:09.240 nineteen sixty eight, local lawyer and historian, a great guy 35 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:12.960 to always talk to. Mary M. Heenan, and I believe 36 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.000 I'm pronouncing the name correctly. We'll find out, won't we. 37 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:22.680 Mariam Heenan, who has a book about George Floyd coming 38 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.879 out and the syop that she says was conducted in 39 00:02:25.960 --> 00:02:29.199 the wake of George Floyd's death that led to the 40 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:33.199 quote unquote not summer of Love in twenty twenty and 41 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.120 defund the police and all the other rhetoric that we 42 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:39.159 were exposed to and BLM and the marches and the 43 00:02:39.199 --> 00:02:43.000 fires and the not mostly peaceful protests that erupted around 44 00:02:43.039 --> 00:02:45.960 the country and the wake of that, and who was 45 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:49.400 really behind it. Was it Derek Chauvin, the cop in 46 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:56.240 Minneapolis or was it something more sinister. We'll discuss doctor 47 00:02:56.360 --> 00:02:59.599 Robert Malone, who is well known as the father of 48 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:05.639 m I vaccines mRNA and he's not a fan of 49 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:08.599 those vaccines, especially when it comes to their use and children. 50 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.680 And he's got a new book out with doctor Jill 51 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:20.400 Glasspool Malone about Anthony Fauci. Why was he pardoned for 52 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:24.599 all the thing? For crimes against the United States by 53 00:03:24.719 --> 00:03:28.919 Joe Biden. Much more on that, and Dave Hatter will 54 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:32.400 join us in Steve Gorham with an environmental update before 55 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:35.199 we are done this evening up. Next, we will talk 56 00:03:35.360 --> 00:03:39.159 to Moe Egger from ESPN fifteen thirty and seven hundred 57 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:42.919 WLW on Pete Rose Celebration night and what you can 58 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.960 expect and what to look forward to from the Home 59 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:49.800 of the Reds seven hundred WLW for the first leg 60 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:54.039 on this nightcap of our Pete Rose Hour. No better 61 00:03:54.199 --> 00:03:56.159 man I think to talk to than a guy will 62 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:58.800 be part of the celebration on Wednesday night on the air, 63 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.280 and he'll be there throughout the game, before the game, 64 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.240 after the game with extra innings and one of my 65 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:08.360 favorite guys. When I do talk about anything sports, I'd 66 00:04:08.360 --> 00:04:11.360 probably talk about anything with this guy, but sports is 67 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.240 his forte. That's what he does for a living. Moe 68 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:16.959 Egger joins us in studio for a few minutes tonight, 69 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:21.040 and I got to tell you they had this place 70 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:24.079 called Dave's Hot Chicken in here earlier today. And I 71 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.120 know this because I saw some in the fridge. So 72 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.759 all that was left was the Reaper piece of reading. 73 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:36.680 I like ghost Reaper peppers, I guess, And I like 74 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:39.959 hot things. Yeah, do you like hot from love hot things? 75 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:42.439 So I took a bite of the Reaper and there's 76 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.199 two guys sitting around watching me, just in wonder, going Okay, 77 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:47.399 when's he gonna melt down? When's it gonna happen, when's 78 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:49.879 it gonna happen? I said, it's got some heat to it. 79 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:54.160 I love it when you eat something hot and the 80 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:57.680 sweat almost instantly beads at the top of your fort 81 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:00.800 I wait for that feelings rush. 82 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:02.920 It's a rush, and I like it when it comes 83 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:05.600 like a full ninety seconds after you've taken your bike. Yes, 84 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:07.560 you know we are lack right. This isn't that bad, 85 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.800 This isn't that hot. And then slowly you could feel 86 00:05:09.839 --> 00:05:12.360 it and then it sort of like max is out a. 87 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.399 Minute and a half after you've eaten what you've eaten. 88 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.360 I didn't have any it was it called hot daves, 89 00:05:17.439 --> 00:05:19.079 hot daves, chickens, hot daves. 90 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:21.720 They had all kinds of sandwiches. Apparently I got the 91 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:24.360 remnants thereof and it was just the Reaper and it 92 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:29.079 was tasty. And I probably shouldn't have done it because 93 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.800 I'm a guy who's been prone lately to have some 94 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:33.480 gastro intestinal problems. So I'm sure this will maybe clear 95 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.879 things up. I was kind of hoping that we'll see, Yeah, exactly, 96 00:05:38.600 --> 00:05:40.519 most got his red bull and he's ready to go 97 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.519 here in the next few minutes talking about first to 98 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:50.120 Pete Rose celebration night, is this finally mow a piece 99 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.519 of real closure for Reds fans, even more so than 100 00:05:53.879 --> 00:05:57.439 the Hall of Fame possibilities of this celebration of this 101 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:03.360 iconic American only Cincinnati, but American baseball player who meant 102 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:05.879 so much to the game and has been, you know, 103 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:09.959 so polarized by his actions off the field and sometimes 104 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:14.639 in the dugout. But is this the final way of 105 00:06:14.759 --> 00:06:16.480 kind of laying Pete to rest? You think? 106 00:06:16.600 --> 00:06:19.439 I think as it relates to the Reds having any 107 00:06:19.480 --> 00:06:22.639 formal relationship with Pete Rose in the public realm, the 108 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:24.759 answer is yes, what are they going to do after this? 109 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:31.160 You know, if if he were to get reinstated after 110 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:32.199 his passing. 111 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.519 Or miraculously come back to life, that would be something. 112 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:36.240 If that happens. 113 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:39.000 I'm much less interested in what the Reds say than 114 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:42.040 I am and learning some other things. But I think 115 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.079 in the absence of him getting to the Hall of Fame, 116 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:48.279 I don't know that the Reds are going to be 117 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:50.759 able to do anything else that recognizes Pete Rose in 118 00:06:50.800 --> 00:06:53.800 any meaningful way. Now, they can continue to have reunions 119 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.680 for the guys on the seventy five and seventy six team, 120 00:06:56.720 --> 00:06:59.199 and obviously this is the fifteenth anniversary the nineteen seventy 121 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.560 five that won the World Series, But how many of 122 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:02.399 those are you going to have? 123 00:07:02.480 --> 00:07:03.959 And so, yeah, I kind. 124 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.399 Of felt that was the case in twenty sixteen because 125 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:09.920 if you remember, they had jersey retirement ceremony and they 126 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.120 put him in the team's Hall of Fame, and Baseball 127 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:15.639 allowed him to participate in those ceremonies, and then they 128 00:07:15.680 --> 00:07:19.879 did the statue. And my thinking then was, with Pete alive, 129 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.199 this is probably it, right, this is probably what else 130 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.800 do you have jersey retirement Hall of Fame statue? 131 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:27.120 Now? 132 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.040 With his passing, this event on Wednesday, as it relates 133 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:35.600 to the Reds doing something formally to celebrate Pete Rose's life, 134 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:39.000 career accomplishments, and the fact that I think to this 135 00:07:39.079 --> 00:07:41.399 day he still is the face of the Cincinnati Reds. 136 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:45.160 This is probably it. And for on the West side 137 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:47.759 of Cincinnati, he's still the face of West side Cincinnati. 138 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.439 I talk to people from that area who've been here 139 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:54.519 their whole lives in that area where Pete came from, 140 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.879 from Western Hills in the like, and you know, they 141 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.959 don't even think Reds. They think this is this is 142 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:06.079 the baseball player, This is the baseball player of all time. Sure. 143 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:08.680 I mean, I know I live on the West Side. 144 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:10.639 I have met people. 145 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.399 I met a guy who has a lot of Pete 146 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.079 Rose memorabili you who probably couldn't tell you five players 147 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.560 on the current Reds just loves Pete Rose and loves 148 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:21.920 that era. And look, I know people who would tell 149 00:08:21.959 --> 00:08:25.560 you their relationship, their relationship with baseball was badly damaged 150 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:28.560 in nineteen eighty nine when Pete was effectively kicked out 151 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:29.000 of the game. 152 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:30.040 You're right. 153 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:34.320 Look I've said this, and people get mad at me 154 00:08:34.399 --> 00:08:36.480 or disagree with me. I still believe he is the 155 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:39.519 face of the Cincinnati Reds. He is the most identical 156 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.480 for better for worse. Sure, the most identifiable figure, Not 157 00:08:43.639 --> 00:08:47.320 Johnny Bench, not anybody else, I believe around the country, 158 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:49.600 when you say big red machine, the first name that 159 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:50.759 pops up is Pete Rose. 160 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:53.039 Now that's no knock on anybody else on that When 161 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:54.279 do you think that's justified? 162 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:54.960 Sure? 163 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:58.879 Yeah, yeah, I do too. I mean, I'm. 164 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:03.000 Forty seven years old, so I grew up. I remember 165 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:08.159 forty one ninety two. I remember Pete's final pseudo season 166 00:09:08.159 --> 00:09:11.759 as an active player in nineteen eighty six. I distinctly 167 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.679 remember him as manager, and I certainly remember everything that 168 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:18.080 would happen over the course of the subsequent I guess 169 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.679 three and a half decades. But even I can tell 170 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:23.080 you how famous Pete Rose was in the nineteen seventies. 171 00:09:23.399 --> 00:09:26.360 You know, he was named Athlete of the Decade, I believe, 172 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:31.240 by Sports illustrator Sport magazine. There was a level of 173 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:35.240 fame and notoriety that he had when the Big Red 174 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:38.399 Machine was at its heyday that I don't think anybody 175 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:42.559 else enjoyed. And you know, Pete used to say, because 176 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:44.399 a lot of time has been spent, you know, sort 177 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:48.240 of deconstructing the relationship that Pete Rose and Johnny Bench had, 178 00:09:48.279 --> 00:09:50.399 and that's not for me to do, but I've heard 179 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:53.320 Pete say Johnny's issue was he wasn't from Cincinnati. 180 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:56.080 I was, and so that matters. Man. 181 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:59.360 You know, Joe Morgan is beloved. Joe Morgan is the 182 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:01.879 greatest second baseman who ever lived. Joe Morgan was the 183 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.440 best player of those two teams in seventy five and 184 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:06.879 seventy six. Johnny Bench is the greatest cutcher of all time. 185 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.840 But I think it would have been impossible for those guys, 186 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:13.960 or anybody else on that team to forge the relationship 187 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:16.480 with the public that Pete did, because they weren't from here. 188 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:19.799 You're right. When I moved to Cincinnati in nineteen ninety four, 189 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.919 the first thing I noticed after a very short period 190 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:28.360 of time was this is one of the most provincial 191 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.600 towns I could ever have moved to. You know, I 192 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:33.759 lived in Nashville, Tennessee, and you think of all the 193 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:36.519 things that Nashville is, and I lived in Saint Louis, 194 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:39.519 which is huge Cardinals country. It really is a baseball 195 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:42.399 town too. I lived in Chicago as a kid growing up, 196 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:48.440 but being from Cincinnati and then not being from Cincinnati 197 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:52.039 and being accepted into Cincinnati is a tough road to hoe. 198 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:54.759 You know, I've been here for thirty one years now, 199 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:59.720 and I just still there's a disconnect there between people 200 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.159 who've up here all their lives and somebody like me. Yeah, 201 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.000 you know what I mean. So I get it. He 202 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:09.320 was from Cincinnati, Johnny wasn't It makes sense. As we 203 00:11:09.360 --> 00:11:12.759 look to Wednesday night, let's go through the schedule. We're 204 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.600 gonna be at the Holy Grail. You'll be there with 205 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:15.720 Rocky and Eddie. 206 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:19.559 Yeah, I'll be with Eddie and Rocky. We're gonna I'm 207 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:22.360 gonna leave my show for the day because I badly 208 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:23.919 want to be a part of this because it's gonna 209 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:25.320 be a lot of fun, and it'd be fun to 210 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:26.799 be on with those guys, but to be at the 211 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.679 Holy Grail, be there before this night for me as 212 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:35.320 a Reds fan, as a Cincinnatian, and you know, to 213 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:38.759 a degree, you know, my dad passed away sixteen years ago. 214 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.600 My dad revered Pete Rose, and so just selfishly, I'm like, 215 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.360 you know, in twenty sixteen, we did a lot of 216 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:48.919 broadcasts surrounding Pete Rose Weekend and I kind of shoehorned 217 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:51.159 my way into those things, and I said, like, I 218 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.559 want to be a part of it, mainly because, like 219 00:11:53.720 --> 00:11:55.720 Indy cools hell, for my dad to be here watching 220 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.159 me do a show about Pete Rose, and you don't know, 221 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:02.919 he may be, it may be, but I to be 222 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:04.840 there on Wednesday is going to be a lot of fun. 223 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.360 And we're gonna have a sellout crowd. You know, we'll 224 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:12.080 see if the team itself can can Honorpete by you know, 225 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:13.120 scoring more than two runs. 226 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:14.200 But yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. 227 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:16.360 We'll beat the Holy Grail, Eddie and Rocky and myself, 228 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.120 and then I'll hang out and do the inside pitch 229 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:19.039 till six. 230 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:20.919 Forty extra innings, extra innings. 231 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:23.879 I haven't hosted extra innings I think in two years 232 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:27.120 for whatever reason. I don't think i've I've had to 233 00:12:27.120 --> 00:12:28.480 do and not had to do. I don't think I've 234 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.960 gotten to do extra innings in two years. So yeah, 235 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.399 I'll be here for that late on Wednesday night. 236 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:39.600 Fantastic. You just made your reference to today's modern day Reds, 237 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:44.440 do you? And this has happened now ever since the 238 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.159 twenty four runs spanking they gave the Orioles, and then 239 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.879 and then the game where they just rocked mccolors in 240 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:56.159 Houston over the weekend. I looked at my wife. We're 241 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:59.039 watching the game, and they score ten runs in the 242 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:02.480 first inning. They won't score for the next three games. 243 00:13:03.279 --> 00:13:05.919 I know they won't because that's what always happens. They 244 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.440 have these gigantic outbursts, whether it's terrible pitching on the 245 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:12.480 other side, which was the case on Saturday with mccullors Junior, 246 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.879 or the bats just decide they all get in sync 247 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.080 at the same time and they're going and they're rolling. 248 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.200 When you watch them in a game like that, you go, man, 249 00:13:23.320 --> 00:13:27.600 what an offensive juggernaut this team can be. And then 250 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:30.399 the rest of the series or for the next week. 251 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.879 It's like power outage. Yeah, do you think that when 252 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:35.000 they score a lot of runs. 253 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:38.519 I do, but not because god, they used up all 254 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:40.799 their hits. They're just not a good offensive team. They've 255 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:44.080 played forty two games and in eleven of them they've 256 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.360 scored one run or less. So what's the outlier. The 257 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:49.799 outlier is the twenty four runs or a ten run 258 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.720 first inning. So you know, I mean, let's face it, 259 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:54.720 they're not obviously playing tonight, which is why you and 260 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:56.919 I are here, But tomorrow night they're more likely to 261 00:13:56.960 --> 00:13:59.440 score zero or one runs than they are to score 262 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:02.320 ten team or twenty four. So to me, it has 263 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.559 nothing to do with a huge offensive output. And then 264 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:07.840 you assume they're not going to score many runs the 265 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.000 next day. A below average offensive team on a game 266 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.519 to game basis is very likely to not score that 267 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.799 many runs, no matter what they did the previous day. Again, 268 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.840 eleven into forty two, that's what twenty eight twenty nine 269 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:24.440 percent of the time they've scored either one or zero runs. 270 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.679 Now they have won one nothing games, but for the 271 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.799 most part, you're held to that run total. You're not 272 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:32.320 gonna beat anybody, and so I don't view it as 273 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.519 much as god they score thirteen runs one night and 274 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:37.919 zero the next, or they score twenty four runs one 275 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:41.080 night and won the next. This team just has way 276 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:43.200 too many games where they just do not score. And 277 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:46.039 that's regardless, that's independent of what happened the night before. 278 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:49.320 And I think the thing for me that is kind 279 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:52.320 of frustrating is if you look at them in terms 280 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.279 of roster construction, they have looked like an incomplete team 281 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.399 for a while. That goes back to February and March 282 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.440 conversations you and I had about out man, when depth 283 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:03.360 becomes an issue, is this team going to be able 284 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:05.720 to answer the bell? And I feared the answer was 285 00:15:05.759 --> 00:15:07.840 going to be no, And so far, over the first 286 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.600 forty two games the answer has been no. 287 00:15:09.960 --> 00:15:12.559 Just a few minutes left and I don't have the 288 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:18.159 Bengals schedule in front of me. Okay, yeah, but last 289 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:22.200 year the Bengals played two very beatable teams that this 290 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:26.080 started their schedule. Does it matter as much who the 291 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:30.120 Bengals are playing then how they're playing at the start 292 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:30.679 of the season. 293 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.720 Well, prior to last year, I would have said who matters? 294 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.840 Because what were you looking for. You were looking for 295 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:40.559 new head coaches and rookie quarterbacks, and that's what the 296 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.960 Bengals got Week one, right, they got Patriots Trod Mayo 297 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.799 and Jacoby Brissett played that game. You were looking for 298 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:50.679 a favorable quarterback, they got. They got beaten a week 299 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.240 two they played Kansas City, Week three Washington. But again 300 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:54.799 it was going to be a rookie quarterback and a 301 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:57.200 new head coach and dan Quinn well, that goes out 302 00:15:57.200 --> 00:16:01.320 the window. I Now, it's what do they do between 303 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:03.559 now in the first game whenever that is, and against 304 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:06.559 whomever it is, to be in a better position to 305 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.879 hit the ground running than they've been since twenty twenty one, 306 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.639 because each of the last three years they've started oh 307 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.080 to two. Last year they started oh to three. And 308 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:17.039 as much as you could sort of shrug it off 309 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:18.799 and go boy, they have plenty of time. When you 310 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.360 have championship aspirations, those games can come back to haunt you. Look, 311 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:24.200 if they got off to a faster start in twenty 312 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:26.639 twenty two, maybe they don't have to go to Kansas 313 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.120 City and play in the AFC Championship game. If they 314 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:31.080 get off to a faster start in twenty twenty three, 315 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.080 even without Joe Burrow, they make the playoffs, and if 316 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.480 they get off to a faster start last year and 317 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.440 win winnable games, they're a playoff team with a healthy 318 00:16:38.519 --> 00:16:41.120 Joe Burrow, and then who knows what happens. So it's 319 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:43.480 not so much about who they play, although I'm always 320 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:49.440 interested in are any of the AFC North games in primetime, 321 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.279 especially on the road, that sort of thing I'm interested 322 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:54.840 in if they have pockets where you know, maybe they're 323 00:16:54.840 --> 00:16:56.519 going to go a long stretch of time without playing 324 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:58.720 a home game or a road game. But more than 325 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:00.840 anything else, I want to know it's different about this 326 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:03.000 team to start the season that enables them to get 327 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:04.880 off to a quicker start than they have the last 328 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:05.400 three years. 329 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:07.599 All right, Mowager, you can catch him at the Holy 330 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:11.039 Grail with Eddie and Rocky three o'clock Wednesday. You can 331 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:14.359 always hear him on ESPN fifteen thirty, except for Wednesday, 332 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:18.279 because he's all reads, all the time. On Wednesday here 333 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:21.519 on the Home of the Reds seven hundred WLW, thank you, Moe, 334 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:24.880 thank you, celebrating Pete Rose tonight and ahead of the 335 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.920 celebration on Wednesday night, at Great American Ballpark. It's been 336 00:17:29.480 --> 00:17:34.319 long waited, long deserved, and it's finally happening here, which 337 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:38.599 is to full out fourteen night on May fourteenth, a 338 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:41.480 month after what would have been Pete Rose's birthday, and 339 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.839 finally the Cincinnati Reds on behalf of Major League Baseball, 340 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:48.960 I might add, are celebrating the life and career of 341 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.400 one Peter Edward Rose. And is this the path to 342 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:53.920 the Hall of Fame? And all of the rest of 343 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.960 those questions still hanging out there. But to talk to 344 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:01.599 somebody like this next game, one of my favorite folks 345 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:07.400 to talk about anything with, except of course his problems 346 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.240 that he has occasionally, which I can't go into because 347 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:15.000 of hippo laws. But to talk to this guy, I 348 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:18.240 think is the pinnacle of this hour. And it's the 349 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:21.240 of course one and only fur Ball, Andy Furman, who 350 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.519 knew Pete Pete Rose, He covered Pete Rose, he loves 351 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:29.079 Pete Rose. So Andy, the floor is yours your thoughts. 352 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.519 Well, you know, I really appreciate the intro as always, 353 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:34.400 and I always love being with you. And it's great 354 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:36.519 that the Reds are off, but you know, no worries 355 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:38.400 because we're here and I think we would be even 356 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:39.480 more entertaining than the raids. 357 00:18:39.559 --> 00:18:41.000 As we speak, let me. 358 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:45.119 Right right. You know, you use the term that I 359 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:45.920 covered Pete Rose. 360 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.480 I don't like that. But he's a friend, he's a 361 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:49.039 friend of mine. 362 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:51.000 I want all these media people say they covered No, 363 00:18:51.079 --> 00:18:52.559 you know what that means. It means they went to 364 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:55.200 a game and saw him play. Didn't cover the guy. Okay. 365 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.640 I spent time when I live with the guy because 366 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.039 I worked at the old Tonia race Course. 367 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:02.599 I was the pr guy there and. 368 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:03.839 Who was our best customer? 369 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:04.599 Pete Rose. 370 00:19:04.799 --> 00:19:08.319 He was there every single night during the off season. 371 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:08.359 All right. 372 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:09.880 And you could tell he was there because if you 373 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:11.839 looked at the toe board and he placed the bed, 374 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:13.720 the odds would swing in a different direction. 375 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:15.200 All right, So we move along. 376 00:19:15.400 --> 00:19:18.279 So he went on on a trip to Japan, came 377 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:20.440 back with a big bag, came into the cloth house, 378 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:22.440 came into the press box, opened the back, say he 379 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:24.200 and you take a look at this. There was ten 380 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.279 thousand dollars in cash. I mean the guy he was 381 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:28.079 at a car shil somewhere in Japan. But the real 382 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:30.400 story that I had with Pete Rose was this one. 383 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:32.960 You know, during various races. We'd go down there to 384 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.400 make presentations and they win a circle, put a blanket 385 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.279 over the horse, get me troll, whatever it may be. 386 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:39.559 I had to go down there, you know, several times 387 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:41.519 in an evening for a big race, and sometimes it 388 00:19:41.599 --> 00:19:44.599 was rainy and muddy. I came back and I came 389 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:46.240 back my shoes a roll full of mud. Come back 390 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:47.920 to the press box. Pete Rose looks and my shoes, 391 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.839 little shoes are disgusting. I hate those shoes. But really 392 00:19:51.079 --> 00:19:52.359 I do not like your shoes. 393 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:53.559 Day. They really suck. 394 00:19:54.039 --> 00:19:55.920 I said, Oh my gosh, I mean, come on, bet 395 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.759 the late lay up. Next night, he comes with a box, 396 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:02.359 a shoe box. He says, these are for you. I said, 397 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.680 what are they? He says, they're the shoes I want 398 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:07.160 you to wear. These. They were six hundred dollars a 399 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.519 pair of alligator shoes. Oh wow, I said, I can't 400 00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:11.519 take those. I said, it's speed. I just can't take 401 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.240