Speaker 1: All right, everyone, welcome, man, it is time for full
court Press, two man show today. Myself and Rob Vino
here to hit this thrilling slate of college basketball. Hey,
you know what I say, Rob, As long as there's games,
I don't care. I don't care who's playing. I'm all
about it. We've got eight games to talk about. We
have the Syhawk Rivalry, which we'll start with. Years ago,
Drew Martin Betts told me that this is his favorite rivalry.
He said he loves the name, so the fun fun.
Drew Martin Betts fact, he loves the Syhawk Rivalry. I
love that they put it on Rob in the middle
of finals week every year. It's like this is like
the one they always like sort of have their own stage.
It's always like a weeknight middle of finals. There's like
four other games and you get this huge game between
Iowa and Iowa State, which this year is a pretty
big game. I mean, you know, big spread, but big
game in terms of like i was got a solid
team and Iowa State.
Speaker 2: Has anyone looked better than Iowa State. Rob Veno, Yeah, when.
Speaker 3: They're healthy at them they are as good as anybody.
I have a personal I don't know bias to them,
but every year I'll pick up on a team that
I just like the way they play. Last year it
was Iowa State. The injuries did them in come in
CAA tournament time. But this year, now healthy, you get
to see exactly what they look like to start last year.
And they're so well balanced. They shoot the three, they
are up tempo, they can get to the rack. Taman Lipsey,
who came back after three after a three game absence
last game, spearheaded the route on Saturday, the unexpected route
of Purdue. And so here you get the you get
the in state rivalry. And let's let's shift over to
Ben mccollins team here for just a second out of
because they've lost some personnel heading into this season and
including Sandford, who we saw last night, I thought maybe
the three point shooting would suffer a little bit, but
it has not.
Speaker 4: Three guys shooting.
Speaker 3: The basketball, and we're not talking about ultra small sample
sized guys that are shooting the threes and making the
threes that like, I think it was like forty three
percent or better clips, So they still have that element.
Speaker 4: But what I think I'm noticing most about Ben McCollum.
Speaker 3: Is what we talked about to start the season, that
Iowa was going to have this shift and pace from
Fran McCaffrey to McCollum and probably go slower. It didn't happen.
Right off the bat. Right that opening night against Robert Morris,
they put up one hundred and wonders.
Speaker 4: We're on there, We're like, Wow, this might be different
this year, or it might not be any different.
Speaker 3: But I will say that since then, it looks like
they're trending a little bit toward what he wants to do,
possession lengthwise, et cetera, et cetera. It's not quite what
Iowa State wants to do. But again, they're so well
balanced they can do just about anything. And going through
this game and looking for fundamental advantages on either side,
especially for the dog side, because when I looked at
the number, I thought, man, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Going to lay that type of price with Iowa State.
I prefer to take that price.
Speaker 3: With Iowa in a game of this magnitude.
Speaker 4: A couple of things here.
Speaker 3: I would look for Iowa the Hawk guys to try
and slow this thing down a little bit. And again
I'll just reiterate you guys hear me say it a
lot so far in the first month of the season.
I don't necessarily or I do believe that a home
team can dictate pace for the majority, and the majority
being better than fifty percent of a game. So Io
will have to do it in spurts and they'll have
to play really good deepfense. Two things in their favor
at them they don't turn it over, and they force turnovers.
It's not like an Iowa team to actually be that
good at forcing turnovers. I mean in scramble situations under McCaffrey, yes,
but here they get their hands on balls. For McCollum,
it's kind of a trait of anywhere he goes, and
I think that's a pretty solid place to start when
you're looking to play this underdog. The next way to
look would be rebounding. They're just not that they're they say,
an average rebounding team so far this year. They're gonna
do some work on the boards because Iowa State's pretty
good at getting second chances. All that being said, a
couple of things here that I looked at. I don't
want to play any Iowa State game under although I
do have that feel that it won't be up and
down could only because of the where the odds makers
place a number. And as we're talking here, my eyes
went down because I just saw the flash on the screen.
The total is now going down to one and a
half one forty three. But I like the underdog side here.
I just think a Iowa makes enough threes, b Iowa
forces enough turnovers.
Speaker 4: See, Iowa doesn't give the ball away.
Speaker 3: And when you start to put all those things together,
boy twelve points. Well again, as I look, we're down
to eleven and a half here, So eleven and a
half the money is coming that way, thirteen and a
half down to eleven and half. They probably see things
kind of the way I'm describing them. But if I
had to, Madam, I play the dog missed the boat
on the opening number. But it just seems like a
large number in this type of rivalry game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, Rob, I've been on Twitter all morning
and you know, discords and stuff, and this seems like
a very polarizing like argument today because you've got I
feel like you got about half the people are like
Iowa State's going to run them out of the gym.
This is that they take this rivalry. More seriously, this
is their super Bowl. It's and aims, and then the
other half are how in the world is Iowa catching
this many points. It looks like the respected opinion is
the latter at this point, because this is actually down
to ten and a half now some places now I'm
looking at like pretty much all of the legals, if
you will, have moved to ten and a half here
the bigger it looks like Vegas books are still eleven.
Speaker 2: Some of the offshore are still eleven and a half.
Speaker 1: But like, there's no question the money's come in on
Iowa since the open, which this opened as highest thirteen,
some places twelve and a half. I think most places
where this was open. My number came out right on
right at eleven and a half, which actually like surprised
me a little bit.
Speaker 2: I thought that I was almost certain that.
Speaker 1: Iowa would show Iowa would show value here, and that
I disagree with it. You know, for me, the thing
that like what would be I guess the path to
Iowa State, just like blowing this game open, would be
if Iowa State is defensively I mean that we know
they're good defensively, right, t Otzolberg is always really good defensively.
If they can it can pretty much neutralize Stirts, Like
I think that that would be their path to opening
this up to a double digit lead. You know, Tom
Izzo the other day had a really good game plan,
defensive game plan for Iowa and it was a It
was an in afficient fourteen points for Bennett Starts in
that game, four for ten shooting from the field.
Speaker 2: Uh turned it over four times.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that shoots fifty one percent
or fifty and a half, fifty one percent from the field.
So if you can hold him to ten shot attempts,
forty percent shooting and four turnovers, like I was probably
not going to win that game, right, Like, that's that's
a game, especially if they're playing like a better team,
which in their last or two games ago they were
playing a better team in Michigan State and they were
able to do that to Starts. And what was the
final score in that game, Rob, I think it was
a twenty point blowout.
Speaker 2: So you look at this game here.
Speaker 1: You know, Iowa State turned Braden Smith over six times
over the weekend.
Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive. You don't see that every day.
Speaker 1: Torre was was fantastic in Lipsey's sort of departure there.
Now Lipsey is back, it'll really be I think it's
going to depend on what Iowa can can do with
their game plan with Stertz, cause starts kind of starts
that whole game. So if they can really get him
and neutralize him, I don't know that they've got enough
firepower with the rest of the team to like offset
that very slight lean to an Iowa State here for me,
but it's now I'm kind of nervous to lean that
way because you're talking about coming down to ten and
a half. A very interesting game, likely not one that
will make my card today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think to your point, there's only one pathway
for Iowa to win this game or to cover this game.
There's more than one pathway for Iowa State to cover
this game.
Speaker 4: And as much as I talked.
Speaker 3: About Iowa not being a team that turns the ball over,
Iowa states number two in the country in percentage of
turnovers forced. And so that hit the head matchup right there.
We take the ball away, we don't give the ball away.
I don't know, one of those spurts where Hilton Coliseum
is going crazy and they get a couple of steals
and a couple of breakaway layups, and all of a sudden,
the margin that's created. To your point, I always state
to correlate it to a football team that doesn't have
a vertical passing game. If you're behind two scores, it's
difficult to come back. And I think if Iowa gets
in that position, it's very, very difficult for them to
get back into the game and stop Ioas State from
creating margins.
Speaker 4: So they're going to have to be on their game
for the full forty to get it done here.
Speaker 1: I think if I had to throw out a lean
in this game, I'd play it under a Iowa State
made every single shot against Purdue, and I really look
at like, so someone, I pulled up Trevor's comment. He said, well,
Bennett Starts bounced back. Well, Bennet Sets did bounce back
against Maryland, he had twenty five.
Speaker 2: Like that's you know.
Speaker 1: Maryland just didn't have the personnel to do what Michigan
State did, which was, you know, they really disrupted him.
And that was just a great Izzo game plan in
that game. I thought that was you know, Michigan State
was ready for anything. I was going to do and
that was really not a content by the end of
that game. I don't know if I want to go
against TJ and his ability to like defensive game plan.
Like remember this Iowa team, Io wast eight team has
been good for a long time, but now they have
a good offense that is so scary.
Speaker 2: I think they could be I don't know that we
know the ceiling of this team yet.
Speaker 4: Rob.
Speaker 2: If they're going to score the way they've been scoring, yeah.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: And to your point, Michigan State won by nineteen and
we know they can't shoot threes. Iowa State shoots threes.
They got four times. They can shoot threes. It's a
veteran team, you know, they're used to Osenberger's system. To me,
they have Final four capability. Like I said, off the bat,
I'm kind of biased to them because I love their style.
I love the way they play. I love the fact
that they're so deep and everybody contributes. It's a tall
task for Iowa. Again, these rivalry games you never know,
but for Iowa it's going to have to be from
the get go, especially in the opposing gym here Hilton Coliseum.
They're going to have to be close with the entire
weeks of separation. It's created here. Again, I don't know
that I always get the firepower to come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be my concern, and that would that's
ultimately if it feels like if Iowa State covers this
big number, it's probably late where they like extend that,
you know, it gets extended out to twelve thirteen, fourteen
and they win by like That's how I think they
would cover a big number like that, But will be
an interesting game.
Speaker 2: So Rob when once a two man show.
Speaker 1: I think this is the first time we've really done
a two man because we had Jordan for a minute
last week.
Speaker 2: The three teamer is.
Speaker 1: I pick a leg, you pick a leg, and then
we agree on one to you know, it's like a consensus.
Speaker 2: Late. There's only eight games, so we'll we'll find one.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it will be, you know, in
that game, but we've have other opportunities. And I want
to go to mad Max here because he wants to.
He says, green Bay versus I you.
Speaker 2: Indeed, I you.
Speaker 1: Aggressive defense takes a lot of files twenty five percent,
green Bay points free throw thirty second. In Division one,
I takes a lot of threes. Green Bay three point
defense best part of their d But the thing that
I'm super interested here, and I know you're you being
the totals guy, I want your take on this. There
was a point in time a couple of weeks ago
where IU Indie totals were in like the one eighties,
and they were getting steamed into like oblivion, like they
were opening in this range. So this total opened one
sixty five. I feel like if this game was three
weeks ago, this would have been bet up to one
seventy five at this point already. The way some of
those IU Indie totals were being dead, it really hasn't been.
Do you think that because that their offense cooled off
a little bit and we didn't see those ninety to
ninety plus games, that there's a little overvalue with indie
again because they're still playing like a similar way and
now we're chilling in the one sixties on the total
like it's not being beat up at least it hasn't
been yet. I found that super interesting because there was
a twenty four point move to one of IU in
these overs, like the third week of the season.
Speaker 2: So talk to me about that a little bit Yeah,
and I.
Speaker 3: Think that the one sixty seven we're looking at when
sixty seven and a half, I think it shows some
sort of compensation for how slow Green Day plays.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the question, yeah.
Speaker 3: In total's world, what you would ask yourself is ken
you Indie force Wisconsin Green Bay to play their style?
And the likely answer is yes, Adam. And for me
at least, here's just the way I look at these things.
When you play fast and you don't play a lot
of defense the opponent. Again, I feel like players love
to stat pad and if they see avenues where they
can score points, they'll fall out of their so called
system or philosophy into the into the fast paced teams
philosophy because they're gonna get easy buckets. So to me,
I think you Indy can force Wisconsin Green Bay out
of their system? Can they in a fast paced game?
And again, this is a Doug Gottlieb coach team where
he's kind of reversed his style, right because Green Bay
was pretty much a high score and faster paced team
and now they're a slower paced team. But I think
the personnel might fall into it. I don't know if
the coach can keep them out of it. You look
at some of their final scores here, they do have
the ability to get the seventy five to eighty and
if they do that, this game becomes very very close
to an over.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think the biggest question here is can they even
stop you, indeed from scoring when you take a look at.
Speaker 4: The few amount of turnovers that they're third worst.
Speaker 3: As I look at the third worst in the nation
at forcing turnovers, green Bay is if you're going to
stop a team that goes at this rappid pace, you
have to turn them over a little bit if they hit.
It's bucket after bucket after bucket, position on top of position,
on top of position. I think the chat viewer just
now mentioned how good green Bay is it the free
throw line, and how are you Indy takes a lot
of fouls. Those add up as well. I think there's
probably value here, Adam, to tell you the truth inside
this total, playing this total over just because I don't
think green Bay is gonna take a you Indy out
of what they like to do best. I think they'll
fall into what the other side does best.
Speaker 1: I think it's important for Indy to try to speed
green Bay out like they they for whatever reason, au
Indy's also playing slower, and I don't know if it's
because they had that sort of run of games. I was,
I faded them in a game and I was on
the right side. I believe it was Charleston Southern where
this was sort of at like the peak of their like,
let's like play as fast as humanly possible, and they
just were. They lost the game one oh three to
ninety one, and they were like so insanely out of sorts.
And then of course the next game they go out
and they give up one hundred and one points to
Alabama State, And you just have to wonder if at
that point they said, all right, maybe we have to
reel it in a little bit, because we can't just
give up one hundred points every game. It's nice that
we want to play this style, but like losing to
one hundred to ninety is not good on a game
to game basis either, So like that's I guess, you know,
even though they've lost now that the problem is though,
losing seventy eight to fifty five is not good either, right,
Like that's what they've done in Horizon League play so far.
Speaker 2: So it's like where do you go?
Speaker 1: You were playing super fast, giving up one hundred points
but losing close games that were in like the nineties.
Speaker 2: But the last two games they've been blown out. They've
slown it.
Speaker 1: They slowed down their tempo in terms of like like
how many you know shots they're getting up possessions per game.
They were blown out by Detroit and they were blown
out by Youngstown State. So to me that there only
can be one thought process here for IU Indy. It's
it's played as fast as humanly possible. To go back
to your point, because I don't know that that's like
beneficial for Green Bay. And I'm looking up and down
green Bay schedule and they haven't played many teams that
like let it rip from a from a pace standpoint,
even even when they stepped up in class like a
lot of those teams like the Saint Thomas's, the you
know who else, said maybe Yale.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're like crazy tempo teams.
Speaker 1: They're you know, they'll play a slower type of game,
like which green Bay is I think more comfortable would so,
like I still think green Bay is the better of
these two teams. If you forced me to pick a
side in this game, like I would. I still think
I would like very reluctantly take Green Bay, which is
is terrifying on the road, especially like I got Rob
I had, I had Green Bay and that Robert Morris
game where Gottlieb had a meltdown through a chair and
he had every reason to throw in that chair because
they should have won that game.
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, man, can I stomach Green Bay
like minus one on the road.
Speaker 1: That's probably how I would play it. I don't know
if I could could get there any other way for
this game.
Speaker 3: And a couple of things that you bring up. The
Robert Morris game, that's a one hundred and fifty eight
point game. They get the one to fifty eight. And
Robert Morris is one of the slowest average possession time
teams in the country. They're into three hundreds. How you
pu guys are at three hundreds. I'm gonna just throw
out there. I haven't really brought it up this season.
I do it in the NBA, I do it in
college basketball, but I kind of use, for total's purposes,
a homemade statistic, if you will, something I don't see
anywhere else in analytics. But I use I just call
it potential points. If every single ball that was shot
went into who how many points would have been scored
in the game. The last game against Youngstown State, one
hundred and thirty three points total were scored, right, seventy
five to fifty eight or whatever was seventy eight fifty five. However,
the IUPU side themselves had a chance for one hundred
and sixty if they made every shot. The other side,
Youngstown had a chance for one hundred and fifty one.
That's three hundred and eleven potential points in the game,
and only one hundred and thirty three were converted.
Speaker 4: Very very bad shooting out of IUPUI.
Speaker 3: I think the three point numbers were arithic in that game,
and so the low score there wouldn't phase me as much.
When I look at these potential point numbers, they're still
getting up there. When you have the chance to score
one to sixty, if you score forty five percent of those,
I think an average college number is like around forty two.
Speaker 4: And had a team like iu IND which is.
Speaker 3: More scheme than talent, you know, maybe a hair a
bit lower, but the chances were there, I guess is
the point I'm trying to make here, and the fact
that Green Bay played a game that landed one fifty
eight with Robert Moors, and it was a conference game, right,
so even defense didn't even come into play in a
conference game. I think maybe one sixty seven and a
half to your original point way back when I think
maybe you know, there's been a little movement towards over.
Speaker 4: I think it might be correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and mad Max, I'm just just to give you
a matter of fact answer. I think Green Bay feels
like the right side as well. I just think watching
these two teams, watching AYU Indies sort of struggle with
their identity. Want to play super fast now we got
to try to slow it down, neither really working. I
think speaks to the fact that they're just that they
maybe just don't have the personnel just yet, whereas green
Bay I think maybe does. Like I've said this on
the show a couple of times, I think Gottlieb learned
a lot from his first year as a coach. I
think he's a much better coach in year two. I
think this team is better than last year's green Bay team.
Number came out pretty much on the nose of where
it is I make green Bay minus one and a
half here, But I do see the IU indie money
coming in, which I disagree with. So I mean, if
this got to a point where green Bay was suddenly
a dog, I might be with you.
Speaker 4: I might have to.
Speaker 2: I might have to.
Speaker 1: Just that might be the frush the stubborn and pop
committed play Rob where it's like, I feel like I've
got to get my green Bay money back on them
screwing me last week, last Thursday, and then over the weekend,
I just got blasted by Right State. That was a
horrible matchup for them. So green Bay probably over all
a little undervalued right now. I wasn't sure if I
wanted him on the road, But the more we talk
about the game, the more I think green Bay might
be the correct side. Okay, let's come back here to
Central New York. I was talking to some people that
are going to the game tonight, Rob. Some folks are
not real thrilled. But the ACC now has this state
nine PM slot to accommodate the new members. The cal
Stanford and SMU pretty much gonna always have a ACC
game at nine, and the folks of Central New York
not thrilled about it, of course, but I'm sure they'll
be out. They it's a fan base that was desperate
for a win, like a big win. Haven't had one
in the Red Autry area, Aaron until last time out
knocks off Tennessee. So I expect some juice at the
Dome tonight for this game. Saint Joe's coming to town.
They had twenty thousand for a nine pm game against
mom myth a couple of weeks ago, and that was
prior to beating Tennessee.
Speaker 2: So I think you get an okay turnout.
Speaker 1: What I was surprised about here, Rob was my number
being so close to what the market was when I
went to When I saw these numbers first pop, I said, oh,
I'm gonna have to talk myself off of Saint Joe's
catching this many points in this type of game. And
my number actually lands right in sort of where the
I think I was at, like my twelve point one
for Syracuse.
Speaker 2: This has even been bad up. I think it's now
thirteen or thirteen and a half.
Speaker 1: That still feels huge to me, though, especially with the
way Syracuse to shooting free throws, which is as bad
as you'll see any team shoot him in the country.
Do you want to lay thirteen at the Dome tonight,
Rob Veno.
Speaker 3: It's difficult because the first case you could make in
favor of Syracuse is I don't know that there's a
bigger step down in class off of the quartet and
games they've just played. Houston, play them to one point, Kansas,
I alowas did. Of course, that was three and three days, right,
we talked about that, they get blown up. I always
stayed the third time in those three days, and they
come back and beat Tennessee sixty two to sixty in
a game where again they weren't favored to win that game.
They were off the blowout loss. I think people gave
up on Syracuse again and they come through the win.
But you play Houston, Kansas, Iowa State, Tennessee four teams
in succession with and I'll throw I'll love Kansas, and
maybe I shouldn't. So I'll say round of thirty two potential.
I was gonna say sweet sixteen potential. Let's say four
teams with round of thirty two or deeper potential. And
now you're gonna play Saint Joe's. Saint Jones has only
played one team in the caliber of Syracuse.
Speaker 4: That was Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: It was also on the road, and they got absolutely
destroyed ninety four to fifty nine. So is Saint Joe's
even capable of stepping up in class. Steve Donahue, I
think is a pretty good coach, remember him mostly for
his Cornell teams, But I don't know that they match
up well in this particular instance.
Speaker 4: Now the problem, there's a couple of problems here.
Speaker 3: First thing I'll say is if I keep pointing out
Syracuse positives, they've been really good on the defensive side
of the basketball, which is different for them a little bit.
Saint Jose a bad shooting team from three. Syracuse's not
going to allow them near the rim. Syracuse rim protection is.
Speaker 2: Great, right.
Speaker 3: I think William Kyle was from what I think he
was number two.
Speaker 1: He's an absolute monster, rob, He's an absolute monster. He
might be my favorite player in all of Division one basketball,
even though he shoots twenty percent from the line an
absolute free.
Speaker 3: Key is but you're not going to get near the
rim against him because he throws everything away. Syracuse is
very good at rim protection. So if you take that element,
can't get to the rim, can't shoot threes. We're Saint
Joe's going for points. There were an eighty percent free
throw shooting team, but I don't know how they're going
to get to the line that much. I'm saying all
this because my first inclination here, Adam, was to play
Saint Joe's team total under sixty seven and a half.
It's been since bent down to sixty six and a half.
The totals come down as well. In what figures to
be more of a slower paced types game. Syracuse hasn't
played especially up tempo. They don't shoot the three well
you already talked about, they don't shoot free throws well.
They make their living inside the arc, but I think
they can do it against this team. So they forced
a lot of turnovers as well Syracuse does. I was
making the case earlier to bet this game again. With
the Saint Joe's team total under even at sixty six
and a half, it seems kind of high to me.
I don't know that they can get to the higher
sixties against this Syracuse tee. If they're focused at them,
and in a standalone nine o'clock game, they probably should
be focus. The crowd should be there, the team have
to play in those four you know, NCAA contenders should
be there. I think there's a lot of reasons to
like the Cues defensively against the Saint Joseph offense.
Speaker 1: Rob I thought the points being where they were at
the open just for the whole game was high. One
forty five and a half. You're not gonna if this
is not the game to go to if you if
you like offense. Neither of these teams could shoot, and
you know, Syracuse, I don't. This was the case a
couple of games ago, and I think it still holds true.
They have not played a single possession of his own
defense yet this year because they don't need to. That
was always Autry's thing when he when he came in
that first days, like we're gonna play more more man
and man, like I want to play man and man,
and then he just the last two years he just
it was a disaster with who he had on the roster.
You know, guys that just straight up didn't want to defend.
So he was like, shit, we've got a good we
just have to play zone a little bit. Because we
were playing they were they would play man and just
not guard anyone.
Speaker 2: It was awful this year. They are this This team
likes playing defense.
Speaker 1: I think it starts with having a guy like William
Kyle who's just going to erase anything in the paint.
The biggest thing that like watching Syracuse So I went
to the Tennessee game and then watching him in the
in the players against a higher competition Kansas Houston will
throw the Iowa State game out. That wasn't even fair.
They shouldn't even have to play that game at like
ten in the morning. But like they defend without fouling,
which is which is very impressive. Like they defended Tennessee
that whole game and didn't follow And guess what. Saint
Joe's gets most of their points from the free throw line,
where they're number one in the country shooting file shots.
Saint Joe's eighty one point three percent from the foul line,
number one in the country. So if Syracuse doesn't file,
they're not going to put the number one free throw
shooting team at the line. And then you talk about
Saint Jose three hundred and forty seventh nationally from three
that's not very good.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: The more I watched Saint Jose, the more I really
think they miss Rashier Fleming and Eric Reynolds, who It's
like Eric Reynolds was just a bucket, like he was
gonna get one some way, you know, anyway. And then
of course, like the emergence of Rashier Fleming last year,
the guys like, I don't watch the NBA rob but
isn't he Like, didn't he get drafted?
Speaker 2: Wasn't he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think there's something to like Billy
Lang taken off early September. It listen, it's very similar,
Like you don't peace out on your team in the
first week of September if you think they're any good.
I'm sorry, Like that NBA assistant job is probably there
for you next year. It's not like he left to
be an NBA assistant. Those jobs are still going to
be there. That's not like the dream job that you
just have to take right away. If he thought this
team was any good, I think he would have coached
this team very Tony Bennett esque in my opinion, taking
off two weeks before the season when you know your
team is absolute trash. Now, I'm not saying Saint Jose's
trash by any means, but I think he said man
we don't have Reynolds Flemings in the NBA. I'm looking
at this roster. I don't know like they've they've been
underwhelming to this point. They were better on in my opinion,
Saint Joe's better on paper coming into the year than
I've seen to this point. So like, I can't lay thirteen,
but I don't disagree with you your look on a
team total under this Syracuse team can defend.
Speaker 2: They are a great defensive team.
Speaker 3: And just while you were talking and went down to
sixty five and a half, this thing for team told
us to creep down by a point and then another
point within twenty minutes is kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm staring now at his sixty four and a half.
Speaker 2: I mean watching the show. They must be watching the show.
Speaker 4: I mean it's something.
Speaker 3: But to both of our points here, Saint Jose isn't
going to score from three because they can't shoot it
from three. You're probably not going to get to the
free throw line of Ton because Syracuse doesn't file, and
they're not going to get near the rim. With Kyle
back there, you can funnel everything into him. So where
your points coming from, they're not necessarily a fast break
team and Steve Downey who's probably still trying to figure
this whole thing out personnel wise, so you know, ces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I said, I thought I was going
to find a way to like like the dog here
because again, like Syracuse, they do have a habit. I
go back to the mom Meth game which I gave
out on the show and ended up covering easily. They
have a habit of letting a team like this stay
in it. Like they really don't land to knockout punching
games like this, but they are if they play to
their potential. And I'll tell you the other thing. Donnie
Freeman is not going to play tonight. I saw people
saying like, there's no way he's playing tonight. That that
would be that would be not smart. I don't think
they risk him until they play a conference game again.
It just doesn't make any sense to, uh, he's got
an injury that I think it's like an ankle or
something like. It's not there's there's no there's just no
reason to play in a game like this. So if
you're thinking, like, oh, well, Kees might have Freeman back,
that would I be it would be a very bad
decision in my opinion to play him here, Garth, I
was trying to find your game and oh, okay, Garth
is giving out women's basketball in the chat.
Speaker 2: I absolutely love that. By the way, you got it.
Speaker 1: Listen, Garth, if you if you got an edge in
a women's game, you send it right over.
Speaker 2: That's what we love on this show. But I will,
I'll tell you what I'll go to. I'll go to
a small He was talking about smaller markets.
Speaker 1: I think he was actually talking about women's basketball, but
we do have smaller markets in men's college basketball. Uh,
there's two extra board games and I played one of them.
It is a client play, so I will, I will
give it out here. I did end up getting out
ahead yesterday, ever so slightly, thanks to the New Jersey
Institute of Technology Rob who came through for me to
offset offset Norfolk State, who ended up losing by thirty
And one of the things that's like, listen, this is
really tough to know. Norfolk State showed up with two
guys out they I guess the flu.
Speaker 2: They had the flu.
Speaker 1: And this is like the flu is running rampant through
college campuses right now. I'm almost will now I have
no info on ut Arlington Rio Grand Valley that anyone
is sick, Okay, But I'm going to use this to
make the point I really like UTRGV.
Speaker 2: Here I played them minus one earlier this morning.
Speaker 1: It's up to it's up Caesar still as a one
and a half, but it's up to two and a
half most places. But you can just money line it.
It's a three percent play for me, and I'll I'll
talk about why I really like this Rio Grand Valley team.
But I'm almost willing, like these types of games mid
December home game, I'm almost willing to give the home
team like an one extra point just by default in
a game that's like listen, if it's a if it's
a big time game like the Syhawk tonight Iowa Iowa State,
then it's like I'm gonna use my true home court metrics.
Speaker 2: But a game like this that's a little bit like
you know, one off.
Speaker 1: The reason for this, rob is if guys are sick,
they're not even traveling with the team these days. This
is like I've had four or five confirmed instances where
like if guys are feeling under the weather or they're sick,
they just stay home now, And it's because like the
way college basketball is, it's it's these I don't want
to say these games don't matter, but like even to
like the mid majors, it's like you still have to
win your conference tournament to go to the NCAA tournament.
So they're just not even messing around at this point.
Like Tarleton left six guys home the other night when
they went to Cincinnati. Norfolk left a couple guys home.
There's like three or four more. I just can't think
of them offhand. But so that's my concern with like
any team playing a road game in the middle of December,
is like, are guys sick and are they even traveling
with the team? Are guys banged up? Are they even
traveling with the team. We've seen more instances of this
than ever in my opinion, So just something to keep
in mind as you're handicapping these games, because you could
end up getting stuck and you find out five minutes
before the game that three starters are not available. I
feel like it's less likely to happen with the home team,
especially with the home team like UTRGV who doesn't get
many home games. That's the thing, like some of these
teams have really hard time scheduling Division One opponents at home,
and that would be Rio Grand Valley, who played this
crazy sort of travel schedule because no one wants to
go to I think Edinburgh, Texas and play them. But
they had Austin p over the weekend, ran them out,
destroyed the other non board team they played in their
other home game. I think this is kind of a
nice spot for them still at home, and I think
they're a very underrated team in general. They bring in
it's a different roster from this year, but the defense
has been better. They have a coach that I really
really like who actually overachieved rob with the team last
year and I think he will continue to do so.
Cotton from Jacksonville State was a guy like that Jacksonville State.
He's been their leading scorer. So for me, it's just
a lot to like about a UTRGV team that I
think is a little underrated, and the fact that like,
I'll give you an extra point for playing at home
in mid December because I don't know who's showing up
for the visitors, so I played UTRGV. I'm gonna put
that in our parlay on the money line. Anything on
this one for you or just in general, is that
something you'd seen as well.
Speaker 3: I will say this, when I went through this game,
and it was a brief go through, the Arlington edge
seems to be on the glass at them. It's a
glass eating team, and especially on the offensive boards, second
chance points, et cetera. And in a game that's lined
in the vicinity that this one is lined in generally speaking,
second chance points, even if it becomes an offensive rebound
and a file going back up or whatever, those all count.
And I just feel like that's probably where the edge
is here for that side. I didn't play play the game.
I see the Toadness come down by two points. Probably
makes sense. If you just go through the analytics real quick,
you'll see that neither team hangs on to the basketball
real well. And so again, as we pointed out the
other day, just because you're turning it over, it doesn't
mean that's two points going the other way. It could
be just a past thrown out of bounds, et cetera,
et cetera where they start the shot clock. Again, I
think you know, the better rebounding team would be my
play in that one, but we're gonna ride your suggestion
in that one. And while we're at it, why not
just here's another thought too, real quick before I give.
Speaker 4: I'm wondering if the.
Speaker 3: Two of us, because we are so often criticized even
though we're giving you all of our thoughts on a
zillion games, I wonder if we don't let the chat
become the third leg of this.
Speaker 4: Parlay one time and see if they can produce much.
Speaker 3: But while you think about that, let me let me
go ahead and tell you that I'll stay on the
added board and just because I'm close to the Miszoo program,
I'll play the Miszoo team total here over ninety two
and a half against Alabama State. Again, I don't think
it's kind of like the Syracuse deal where although the
Syracuse deal is probably more so because they're on national
television tonight in a standalone game, so I wouldn't expect
they let down from Syracuse, even though the opponent might
suggest it. This for me, is a get right game
for Missouri, who's been through two tough losses.
Speaker 4: They just got through the you know.
Speaker 3: The insane rivalry game against KU where they got beat
up pretty good, and they need to get the offense
right again. Offense that's really been excellent so far this
season under Dennis Gates and the Alabama State team, which
has shown the propensity to give up this type of
point production. Florida State got one oh one against Alabama State.
If I go down the list, Colorado got ninety four,
New Mexico got ninety three. Those street teams all capable,
IU Indy got a one hundred and one. All of
those are higher than the ninety two and a half
expected from Missouri tonight. Trying to be cute and in
personal betting, I could do so Missouri first half if
you're so nervous that Dennis Gates might unload eleven through
fifteen in the rotation at the end.
Speaker 4: Of the game, that you don't want to go full game.
But I think this team's capable of maybe you.
Speaker 3: Know, a forty six to forty eight point first half
and then coast to the number here. So for me,
it's going to be Missouri's team total up and over
ninety two and Africans in Alabama State team adam that
this deep into the year has only been home once
every single game. Is we talk talk about these travel
schedules that the swack teams play and how difficult they
make it on themselves.
Speaker 4: This team's been everywhere so.
Speaker 3: Far this season, and now they're going to fly to Columbia,
Missouri to play this game with Maszoo. Just itchy to
get off of that sixty point performance and twenty point
lost KS So team totals have been really good to
me so far this season. I'm going to play this
one up in over ninety two and a half is
my leg in the Parland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Swack, the MIAC, those types of schools.
Speaker 1: That's that's one thing that like I wish I put
a little bit more stock into yesterday Rob like Norfolk
State had been around the block a little bit out
to Laramie, like out to Arizona. That that is a
thing like mid you know, some of these swack schools
have had really like good results.
Speaker 2: Early in the season.
Speaker 1: We saw but Dune Cookman with a couple of really
nice covers, the Auburn game, the Dayton game.
Speaker 2: Southern took Washington to ot.
Speaker 1: But man, by the time you get to mid decend
and these guys have been on the road for three weeks,
you know, traveling all over the place.
Speaker 2: Now they're banged up.
Speaker 1: Now they're like I I gotta I don't have the
historical data, but you gotta wonder how many of the
how many mid December games that these swack teams even
keep close. So I think that's a really good point.
Alabama State was out in I'm just going off memory,
they were out in Colorado Springs for a minute, like
just just going all over the place. So yeah, like
it makes it. It makes a lot of sense. And
the final thing I'll talk about before we move on
with you had mentioned the rebounding for ut rgv UTA, Like, yeah,
ut Arlington better get some rebounds because they can't shoot,
and they can't shoot all like they they are. They
are a they can't hit shots, I mean the three
hundred and fiftieth three point percentage. But that's the one
thing I think UTRGB really improved on from last year
was like the defensive end, just just being around the rim,
getting rebounds, you know, stopping others at the rim. Like
they were kind of a sieve defensively last season and
didn't get many rebounds, and they've improved in those regards.
So I'm hoping they're twenty fourth in the nation and
three point shooting, I'm hoping they just you know, melt
uta because they're finally home and they're hitting shots. But
I think they can hang on the glass there. So
I wanted to wrap that game up, and again I'll
wrap up. I have nothing to to really deter you
from the Missouri team total, and you've been great with
the team totals. Cash one earlier this week in the
parlay with Texas. Forget when the most recent one was.
But we got there last night with got their last night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's right. I ruined the parlay early, so
I don't even remember what happened.
Speaker 4: We got it last night.
Speaker 3: It was the Columbia game in between on Tuesday that
couldn't even get there with the help of overtime. But
two and one this week they did good to me
overall client plays, et cetera. So we'll go back to
the well here and hope for Miszoo to crank up
the offense tonight.
Speaker 2: I got an idea.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask my boy Keith Bayu BET's landry to
put out the parlay. The reason for that if he wasn't,
if he wasn't, if he was in front of his
computer right now, I would just have him on the show.
We'll get him on at some point. I I just
know this time slot doesn't work as well for him,
but hopefully he's still in the chat. We're gonna let
buy you close the parley and then and then it's
like you you know, I know he's up for the chat.
I know he'll if he doesn't hit his leg, he'll
he can handle losing one. So, uh what we'll put
by you on the spot. There he is, he says,
no pressure, he's he's down. Keith, I'm gonna let you
think about that for a second, and we're gonna go
to so Garth says, the play I was talking about
was college volleyball.
Speaker 2: That is phenomenal. Marks.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll be donating the five to you if
you just feed me the college volleyball picks.
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you if I can find a
place to get them down here.
Speaker 4: Tell us where we could get down at it.
Speaker 1: Tell us where we can bet those, he says, Arizona
State money line, college volleyball, tremendous stuff. That is if listen,
if we could put that as a third leg of
the parlay, I would do it. But I don't think
that I don't know that many people are gonna be
able to Harlow College volleyball with extra board. So but
he does want to know about app State and East Carolina.
So Garth appreciate the donation. As always, this was rob
I guess I didn't. I didn't disagree with the money
that came in here. On app State, my number was
a little bit lower than where this opened. But I
don't This app State team has burned me a couple
of times this year, and that in my opinion, this
is this is not one of Kern's better teams that
he's had in recent years. I think they've taken a
step back from where they were the last couple of
years in terms of like being competitive near the top
of the Sun Belt.
Speaker 2: So I don't really want I don't think that I would.
Speaker 1: I certainly wouldn't take App State now after the number
has moved a little bit, talk to me about this
one app State East Carolina Tonight a home game for
East Carolina here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've talked about so many teams on the
car today, Adam that can't shoot the basketball, and you
can throw Ecu into that mix that not only can't
they shoot it, but they don't defend either. Their game
logs so far are extremely rough to look at. App
State plays extremely slow. You don't expect this thing to
get up and down really, and ECU can't shoot, and
Atalicha State, for the most part, is not the greatest
shooting team in college basketball either. So two relatively poor
to extremely poor shooting teams playing at slow tempo. My
first look, of course, is to under. The total here
is so low, and I think I'm going to just
check the current number because I think I saw it
was coming down. We started one. Thirty four looks like one. Well,
it's all over the place, guys, you got to shot
this one thirty two and a half to thirty four
and a half. I'll tell you what if you can
still find thirty four and a half, which are abundantly
out there according to my screen at this point in time,
I would look under in this game. Honestly, I think
Appalachian State, even on the road, ECU doesn't run it
enough to really dictate a different style of tempo. You're
not going to get Appalachian State out of their game,
so to speak. The problem with total is that ECU
doesn't defend real well. So if you were going to look,
maybe you would look towards East Carolina's team total under
as the favorite here. If you can't play the dog
at this price, maybe you could fade the favorite in
a different way by playing their team total under, which
currently sits at sixty nine.
Speaker 4: Do you think he'st Carolina's going to.
Speaker 3: Get the seventy against this squad and slow paced game
without any shooting whatsoever.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I didn't play it, but I tell you that's probably
the way I would look. Is East Carolina the home
side under sixty nine points in a game that figures
to be somewhere in these low thirties to mid thirties
at the highest.
Speaker 4: Up your muted sorry about that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I agree. I would have to
agree with the underlook. App State just doesn't have much offensively.
I was trying to remember who it was that they had.
They had a pretty good rim presence last year. I
believe it was CJ. Huntley, where they could like go
inside and get some points or clean up and get
some easy points, and it feels like it feels like
they just don't get many easy baskets this year.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: I just I was trying to find my preseason notes
that I wrote down on app State, which.
Speaker 2: Was which all were very much like.
Speaker 1: All of my notes coming into the season was I'm
lower on this team than where everyone has them, sort
of in the Sun Belt. And like, I've always liked
Kern's as a coach, like I've always I've always given
him like a bump up because I think he's one
of the better coaches in that league. But I'm on
the more I watch app State play, the more I
just think that they maybe don't have the talent. Like, Listen,
you can be a great coach. Greg Wallis is a
great coach for Niagara, but he's got a JV team
this year. There's only so much you can do, right, Like,
So that's kind of where I'm at on app State.
And uh yeah, I don't really have much of a
lean on the side, So I think I would would
lean toward your opinion there. For Garth, I think I
leaned toward the and he wanted the total anyway. Uh yeah,
I think I lean toward your underlook there seems like
points could be tough to come by in that game. Okay,
heading back to the chat, Well, I don't know if
if Bayu has his, if the pick is in yet,
oh he it is okay, and it's a game we
have not talked about yet, so he says, best bet,
so Bayo. This Bayou's closing out the third leg of
the parlay. But I do want to see if you
agree with him, because it is a total. He says,
Western Carolina Virginia Tech over one fifty three and a half.
So we've got Keith Bayou bets Landry closing out the
parlay with Western Carolina Virginia Tech over one fifty three
and a half.
Speaker 2: Do you co sign that? Rob Vena?
Speaker 3: You know, I hate the fact that we have to
always you know, we're in the business of not having
clients watch us give our plays away for free.
Speaker 4: But we're on it now.
Speaker 3: We do it every day, right, we're kind of giving
out a client plage and every day. But I did
play this one over the total as a client release
earlier today small release a two percenter. But I mean,
I'll listen to Vayu's reasoning here, it'll probably line up
with mine. I got a better number, Adam, to be
honest with you, than what we're looking at right now.
But I still think this number is good. I had
fifty two and a half when I bet at myself
and then had to release it at this number.
Speaker 4: So obviously I still think there's room.
Speaker 3: But let's let's let keep have center stage here real quick,
and then we'll add on if he's got I don't
know if he's even got any analysis written there for you.
Speaker 4: He'll doesn't just continue on.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he'll have something. I'll listen. I
we appre like if you just help us run up
this show. Likes subscribes like, I'm happy to come out
and give out the client plays that I have. That's
the nice thing about doing a college basketball show, rob
is like the volume is such that, like you know,
it's I can can spare a client play here in there.
Speaker 2: It's not like baseball where I might have one for
the day, So you know.
Speaker 1: It's we just appreciate the likes, subscribes, interaction comments, and
by you already put his analysis in.
Speaker 2: What a guy I don't even know he's in here.
He's already typed it out.
Speaker 1: He said, both teams are top one hundred pace Virginia
tech efficiency is so good on offense. He thinks to
score is somewhere in the ninety to seventy range in
this game. So that is that is sort of where
he's at. Looks like just pace and then Virginia Tech
being super efficient here that gets this one up and over.
Speaker 2: Do you agree with mister Bayu bets on that.
Speaker 3: Well, I certainly agree with pace. That's the first thing
to betting any over. You have to have the requisite
number of sessions opportunities to score in any case. That
think Virginia Tech in this instance, they've been through when
I went through their games on them, They've been through
some strong defensive teams George Mason, Saint Mary's and all
kinds of defensive teams. Right they faced the Martelli Press
and they're able to score Like the seventy three that
they just put up at James Madison or against James
Madison was kind of impressive to me because Western Carolina
plays zero defense and they like to go tempo, which
brought me to the VCU game, which landed one point
fifty four better offense out of the DCU, less defense
out of Western Carolina. You start factoring in these these
scheduled the opposing schedules, and what they do and what
they can't do. And I think you come to the
conclusion here like Keith came to that Virginia Tech at
this pace and the way they shoot the basketball and
they don't turn it over, Like, Virginia Tech's not going
to have dry.
Speaker 4: Possessions in this game.
Speaker 3: They're going to be able to get their probably make
their shots.
Speaker 4: And in a game where you're.
Speaker 3: We have this type of margin, defense can lack a
little bit. The other side can score too. But I
think Virginia Tech's destined for the nineties. My biggest debate
here was should I play the Virginia Tech team total
and let the game go? But I think you'll get
enough out of WCu here to make this work both ways.
And I wouldn't argue anybody off of playing this Virginia
Tech team total by itself as a standalone bet and
just fade the Western Carolina defense, which it's a severe
step up in class for them against this type of offense.
So we'll see how it goes. And just to add
on to this real quick WCu where they're concerned in
conference play, I've just got an asterisk next to them
to play their overs if in fact, the odds maker
prices them in a spy. It'll probably be situational, right
if there's days where the odds maker makes the number
in a space where I can see playing over. They're
one of those teams I've marked as an overteam for
the season.
Speaker 1: Bay You says, he said, he doesn't know this is
one of your client releases. He is sorry, glad however,
that you guys are listen.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna hey, listen, I have.
Speaker 1: Not had a good start to the college basketball season,
so I'm I'm gonna be generous right now. And you know,
when I do have my big run and get it
all back, just remember I gave him out for free
now and then buy him at that time because I
won't be given him for free then.
Speaker 2: But I'll wrap up the show.
Speaker 1: I'll just I played Bakersfield another three percent play plus
six and a half.
Speaker 2: This is a miserable spot for North Dakota State.
Speaker 1: They are going out to California to play cal Bakersfield
and they're gonna lay six and a half. And they
have a game coming up with Drake on Saturday at Drake,
which is probably a pretty big game for them. Like
if you talk about like like what's going to be
a big non conference game for North Dakota State. My
guess is it would be Drake, Like you know that's
probably regionally outside of like the Power Conference scenes in
that region, like Drake is probably one of the bigger names.
So first of all, I don't know who's schedule in
a trip to Bakersfield two days ahead of your of
your Drake trip, but like that to me just seems
like a weird sort of I think they owed Bakersfield
the game.
Speaker 2: I believe Bakersfield went there last year, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like for me, I just my my number was so
far off on this just to you know, I had
I had Bakersfield or I'm sorry, I made North Dakota
State minus one.
Speaker 2: I know Bakersfield has been bad to this point, but.
Speaker 1: I just like I couldn't get over six, getting six
and a half at home, a team that's probably gonna
slow it down, wants to play an ugly type game,
and you've got North Dakota State coming in with Drake
on deck, having to go all the way out to
California to play this game, like they just I think
Northern Arizona. I've said it on the show a couple
of times I think Northern Arizona's horrific year. I think
that team is so bad and North Dakota State really
struggled with them. That's concerning to me. So like for me,
I just couldn't pass up the six and a half.
Rob I had to take the six and a half.
I think this is an ugly close game, and if
that's the case, I'm going to cash either way.
Speaker 2: So I played Bakersfield and.
Speaker 3: To ride to your point, I mean, if we're going
to chuck up positives for Bakersfield, and it's not the
easiest thing to do make positives for Bakersfield so far
this season. But North Dakota State's a different team, Adam.
I mean, I play a lot of summit once the
conference season gets going, and last year, the one thing
you could depend on is they could shoot from the
outside from the perimeter, and they can't shoot the basketball whatsoever.
This year, I don't care if it's inside the perimeter.
Just while you're talking, I took a quick look to
make sure my numbers here number three hundred and one
in the country effective field goal percentage.
Speaker 4: Last year they had dudes like Jackson Money.
Speaker 3: I think it was that we're shooting over forty percent
from three, but there was a core to three or
four of those guys. This year, nobody makes a shot.
It's hard to go on the road when you don't
have shot makers. Bakersfield's been another one of those teams
that's been around the world. I talked about it, you know,
a couple of times this college basketball season where they
were calling it to Rod Barnes World Tour as Bakersfield
traveled everywhere. They're coming home for the first time after
four road games, which is never a spot, at least
in the NBA that we like to play because kids
get accustomed to going back and seeing their girlfriends and whatnot.
They haven't been home for a while. But still it's
difficult to play a ND state team laying points. They
can't shoot.
Speaker 4: It's that simple. On the road in a weird place
and you can't shoot the basketball.
Speaker 1: I'll point out Rob that the last couple home games
were like our last couple of road games were like
all around the corner, like they went up to Fresno.
But then last week they played like Big West play,
you know, pretty much in the Big West, as long
as you don't have to go to Hawaii, like you
really don't have a ton of travel. I think north
Ridge is up probably like a little bit of a trip,
but you know, I think that's a they had to
travel north basically for that where it's northward Santa Barbara.
Speaker 2: But it's like that to me is like, you know,
there's been that game that that Northridge game was Saturday,
so they've had plenty of time to be back home.
Speaker 1: And really, like you talked about those two losses, like
Northridge can really score.
Speaker 2: They were, They're so good. I love that they can't.
Speaker 1: They defense optional, rob that's gonna be their problem, but
I watched all of that game last night. They can
fill it up. They have scored like when they're healthy.
Ogaro came back. Had I known that was gonna be
the case, that would have been a client play.
Speaker 2: They can.
Speaker 1: They're really good offensively. Santa Barbara should be so much
better than they are. And they of course finally had
a day against Bakersfield put up one hundred and nine points.
North Dakota State is not going to be that so
just off of like gonna be a much easier defensive
task than those two teams.
Speaker 2: Good spot for Bakersfield.
Speaker 1: Biggest number of discrepancy for me on the card today,
I made it Bakersfield minus one and I'm sorry North
Dakota State minus one.
Speaker 2: They're six and a half point favorites I had.
Speaker 1: I had to play that, all right, Not too bad, Rob,
for a eight games slate without much to talk about.
Yet we're still here right up against it on the hour.
So we hit all eight games, so that's even. We
hit every single game on the slate that you can
bet today. And we threw out and Garth threw out
a girls college volleyball pick. I mean, where else are
you getting that? That's I think, he said, arizon A
State money line. Scroll back through the live comments for
Garth's women's volleyball pick, which again I'm sure like that's
worth betting. I will be going to look for a
line for that as soon as we get off the show.
But the parlay here, the parlay here is gonna be
ut RGV money line think I saw.
Speaker 2: We'll call it minus one thirty. It's what I saw
a minute ago.
Speaker 1: Missouri team total over ninety two and a half for
Rob Vino and then Keith Bayou Bets Landry.
Speaker 2: Is our third is our guest for the day.
Speaker 1: He's going with West Carolina Virginia Tech over one fifty
three and a half, which is also a robo client play.
Speaker 2: That sounds like like a three team winner to me.
We appreciate you, guys. We'll be back.
Speaker 1: BP will be back. He's doing football stuff today. He'll
be back tomorrow morning to close out the week ten am.
See you guys then,