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<v Speaker 1>You're listenings KFI AM six forty the bill Handles show

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<v Speaker 1>Six forty bill Handle here. It's a Monday morning in

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<v Speaker 1>August twelfth. Dodgers are in Milwaukee to take on the

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<v Speaker 1>The keyword AM five seventy LA Sports powered by LA

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<v Speaker 1>Care for all of LA. There's a movement afoot and

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<v Speaker 1>it is growing and growing, and I'm sure you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just its conservatism, which of course has

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<v Speaker 1>grown like crazy over the years, especially since the world

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<v Speaker 1>of Donald Trump entered our lives. But this is a

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<v Speaker 1>conservative vision of America. It has gained a lot of momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>American culture has swung way too far to the left,

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<v Speaker 1>and it should like look like well Americans and American

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<v Speaker 1>families to really look like what they did.

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<v Speaker 2>In the fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>Women staying home, white picket fence dog named Spot, Dick

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<v Speaker 1>and Jane two children.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's not the case anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Jd Vance with the childless cat ladies concept, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have kids, there's something wrong with you. And then, more recently,

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<v Speaker 1>because he doubled down on that in America's reluctions to

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<v Speaker 1>have children. Well, that philosophy is now through politics, social media, churches, households.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it has really gathered steam and the dichotomy

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<v Speaker 1>is now the polarity has gotten even worse, if that's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>A Trump, a former Trump administration appointee, founded the Center

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<v Speaker 1>for Baptist Leadership, wants to keep the Southern Baptist Convention

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<v Speaker 1>theologically conservative. Does that mean only men can be pastors?

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<v Speaker 1>Which makes a lot of sense because women pastors come.

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<v Speaker 1>On nineteen twenty of the worst year in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States, women were given the.

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<v Speaker 2>Right to vote. How horrific is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Huh? Now, I don't think there are too many on

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<v Speaker 1>the right that are going to say women should not vote.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people on the right endorse believe

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<v Speaker 1>in restrictive views of family.

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<v Speaker 2>And gender roles. That's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Transcender rights, gay rights, reproductive rights, all of that is

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<v Speaker 1>in one camp. You cannot be a conservative today and

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<v Speaker 1>believe in all conservative values, but believe for example, that

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<v Speaker 1>gay people it's okay for gays to get married.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has to be a lockstep. No one can have

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<v Speaker 1>an individual view. It doesn't work anymore on any side.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the political spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>People are hungry for this nostalgia that we think happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the good old days were never the good

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<v Speaker 1>old days. The good old days were rotten. Right in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties, right, no one had air conditioning. How's that

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<v Speaker 1>for the good old days? Your cars lasted two minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you one of the worst things I remember

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid my sneakers.

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<v Speaker 2>My shoelaces would break every five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is, there's good old days. I can describe

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly good old days. I couldn't keep shoelaces together for

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<v Speaker 1>a month without them breaking.

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<v Speaker 2>When's the last time you had to replace the shoelace

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<v Speaker 2>that broke? You don't.

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<v Speaker 1>The technology has gotten to the point where shoelaces do

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<v Speaker 1>not break.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me get this straight. Yeah, not civil rights,

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<v Speaker 3>no right for women. No, No, your shoelaces were yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Why the fifties weren't the good old days?

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, that's an analogy, though, say that's not all encompassing.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point I'm making is you had to look

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<v Speaker 2>how long cars lasted the good old days. They weren't.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna look fifty years from now, it is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be oh, remember the two thousands of the twenty twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the good old days?

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<v Speaker 1>Wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>And the problem is, and I believe the problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the entire issue of transgender reproductive rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Look where the states have broken. We got rid of

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<v Speaker 2>Roe v.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, there's a legal argument for getting

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<v Speaker 2>rid of Roe Vuwaide.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with this the legal aspect

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<v Speaker 1>when they say, oh my god, it's been around for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years, and therefore as president, Hey, the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>has reversed itself many times in history.

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<v Speaker 2>Too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you had a conservative president that was elected.

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<v Speaker 1>Three justices retired or died on his watch. He selects,

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<v Speaker 1>he nominates, the Senate confirms, and guess what those are

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<v Speaker 2>So you had Roe v. Wade being overturned and legitimately

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<v Speaker 2>so legally, there's no question about it. Now, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to believe in reproductive rights, but I can

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<v Speaker 1>certainly see the logic the legal argument.

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<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, there's more of a legal

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<v Speaker 2>argument that Roe v.

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<v Speaker 1>Wade shouldn't exist under our constitution. But you know, I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>The point is it's a very different world. I mean today,

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<v Speaker 1>the way we look at gay rights. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I first started doing surrogacy and my first gay couple

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<v Speaker 1>to have children.

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<v Speaker 2>Was I think nineteen eighty two. It was a long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago when I helped the gay couple I have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only that, I have to keep it under the radar,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to say, we have to keep this

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<v Speaker 1>really quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't admit this. I don't talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only is it going to be a firestorm that

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<v Speaker 1>gay men are having children, it will be a firestorm

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<v Speaker 1>that gay men are having sex, that gay men are

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<v Speaker 1>gay men inherent on to itself, gaiosity should be a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think anybody is arguing, even those among

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<v Speaker 1>the most conservative argue that homosexuality should be criminal. But

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<v Speaker 1>there are plenty of people that argue that homosexual should

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<v Speaker 1>not get married, should not have children.

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<v Speaker 3>But why can't this be a combination, like what well,

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<v Speaker 3>instead of this looking like turning back the clock, on

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<v Speaker 3>gender roles. Why doesn't it look at the nuclear family.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care if it's two men or two women.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's not the nuclear family, I think here.

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<v Speaker 4>But wait, so one person's stays at.

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<v Speaker 2>Home, Now, that's fine and that is not a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Even those that believe in absolute free choice pro choice.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>That a woman or a man in many cases, well

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<v Speaker 1>some cases, shouldn't stay at home. The argument is is

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<v Speaker 1>should a woman not go to work because that contradicts

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<v Speaker 1>family values. A woman should be at home taking care

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<v Speaker 1>of kids, and that belief is gaining more and more

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<v Speaker 1>traction now. One of the things that those who believe

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<v Speaker 1>that we don't have enough kids the JD. Van's arguing

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<v Speaker 1>childlessness somehow there's something wrong with it. When you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about culturally and economically, that's absolutely true. The world's birth

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<v Speaker 1>rate is dropping dramatically, and when you're looking at public policy,

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<v Speaker 1>the fewer kids that are born, the more trouble any

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<v Speaker 1>society is because you've got old people that have to

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<v Speaker 1>be taken care of and they're living longer, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got fewer people coming into the workforce to support those people.

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<v Speaker 1>That is disaster for an economy. So on an economic level,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes a lot of sense. But to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't have enough children or I should have children, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have you.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one of the biggest mistakes of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>You've had plenty, don't have any more?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I go, Barbara.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Pamela the other day went up to me

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<v Speaker 1>and said, if you had your choice, you really wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have me, right, I go, Come on, Pamela. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, don't you You really wouldn't have me,

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<v Speaker 1>would you. Now, Pamela, don't say that. Yeah it's true. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, Now have a burger. All right, We're done.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my daughters, they love me. And my credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay. Moving over to something that's kind of fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's traveling. After the pandemic, I mean, the travel

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<v Speaker 1>industry exploded, as you can imagine, and that is now

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<v Speaker 1>slowing down for a couple of reasons. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>it got pretty expensive supply and demand. And second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>all the money that we had that was put away,

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<v Speaker 1>the stimulus money, the fact you couldn't spend the money,

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's gone, and so travel has sort of come

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<v Speaker 1>back down to I guess what's considered reasonable levels, and

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<v Speaker 1>people are spending more, and even prices are starting.

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<v Speaker 2>To drop, except airlines.

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<v Speaker 1>Even airlines, the prices have dropped at least moderated, but

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<v Speaker 1>not among those people that by business class or travel

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<v Speaker 1>for example, non stop at a good time, those prices

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<v Speaker 1>are still completely astronomical. I am sending my daughter, she's

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<v Speaker 1>getting married, and I'm sending her and her boyfriend. Now

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<v Speaker 1>will be your high and I'm giving them a honeymoon trip,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am. They're going to do Italy, And let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you how difficult it is to do Italy

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<v Speaker 1>on three dollars a day and finding airfare that was

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<v Speaker 1>reasonably cheap, they said, gee, can we go direct?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>So they have nineteen stops between here and there because

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<v Speaker 1>you got to find those bargains out there. And believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going high end at all. It's just more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to fly. It's more difficult to travel, although international

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<v Speaker 1>travel is still where Americans want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>That adds to it too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't go to the Grand Canyon anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't go to Yellowstone National Park. What we do

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<v Speaker 1>is we go overseas. So things have changed, and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the part. And I've always said this, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's catching on. You know, the business, the travel business

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<v Speaker 1>that is getting strong, younger and stronger.

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<v Speaker 2>Cruising cruising cruise ships.

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<v Speaker 1>They have always been the best bargain out there, even

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<v Speaker 1>though they're a lot price, or it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can get if you go to a

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<v Speaker 2>carnival cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're willing to put an inside cabin next to

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<v Speaker 1>the elevator and you're willing to take drunk people partying

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hours a day and screaming down the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do a week for four hundred dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>that includes all the food you can eat. I mean, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't take carnival cruises, but I've cruised thirty five times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a tremendous bargain. The food is good, you

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<v Speaker 1>get as much of as you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Them is very high end. You get well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the shows, that's all included. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>show tunes, the same gay chorus you know you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be straight, and being the chorus on a cruise line,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that they actually ask you. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few places that it is legal to ask someone

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gay or not? And if you are not,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting the job.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been on a cruise Neil, Yes, am I right?

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<v Speaker 4>What about gay men?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah in the chorus, of course I'm right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember seeing a car.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh please stop at stop at Of course they are,

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<v Speaker 3>To have a course, a course of gay men around you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, one singular, That's exactly it.

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<v Speaker 1>You get all the show tunes you want, but you

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<v Speaker 1>get some good comedians that are not so blue, and

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<v Speaker 1>cruise lines are as. They build more and more of

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<v Speaker 2>They are truly cities that float.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember going on somehow somebody convinced me to go

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<v Speaker 1>Like seven thousand people, seven thousand cruisers, not counting the

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the worst experiences of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was horrific, but it was a bargain and the

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<v Speaker 2>That's the business that is exploding is cruising.

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<v Speaker 2>The costs have to be on the bill.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to know in advance how much your hotel

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent to your hotel bill, that has the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it's on the bill has actually cost discern discernible costs, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Has caused bookings to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>We're spending too much money, we're not saving. We're back

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<v Speaker 1>to credit cards. We're traveling overseas and cruising has gone crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>And everything is too crowded, Everything is too crowded. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all like a day at Disneyland.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the worst day? And Neil you've gone, and Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Aren't there days when you literally cannot go from one

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<v Speaker 3>No, I have only been one time where I laughed

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<v Speaker 3>at the crowd where I was like, holy shrud, this

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<v Speaker 4>And then recently when I went.

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<v Speaker 3>They have this issue with with the Haunted Mansion because

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<v Speaker 3>they're redoing the cues and it was weird and backed up.

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<v Speaker 3>But other than that, and I've gone a crap ton. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>there was only one time WHEREVER went, wow, this this

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<v Speaker 1>Amy. Have you ever been in the park when they

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<v Speaker 1>shut down entrance coming in because there were too many

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<v Speaker 5>They did it one time when I think it was

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<v Speaker 5>on New Year's Eve, but we were already in, so

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<v Speaker 5>it was okay with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, okay, sure, why not.

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<v Speaker 3>And even when it is super crowded, like Neil said,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, okay, it is. I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>like it and I'm not listen. I like this lane,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me imagine this, uh, wintertime, February March, five

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<v Speaker 2>No, wait for anything. That's what I had when I

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<v Speaker 4>Those days are gone.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding, those really were the good old days.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Monday on his twelfth The Olympics are over,

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<v Speaker 1>and now all the concentration is right here in LA

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<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna have the twenty twenty eight Olympics, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to have a lot of infrastructure, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have the what the people mover which is

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very strong, very strong. First day of school.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, LA unified today. And it's getting closer

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<v Speaker 1>and closer to a regional war in the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 2>A barrage of rockets fired by a Chispo law into

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<v Speaker 2>Israel last night. Don't know where it's gonna go. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>real quickly, Wayne, do they have a kate?

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<v Speaker 4>What all of that?

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<v Speaker 2>But how are you? I'm good. I'm good. It's all

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<v Speaker 2>good news, Wayne. Right, do they have the case?

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<v Speaker 4>Amongst other things?

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<v Speaker 5>This case is gonna test your ability to behave yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, yeah, that's gonna work.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, let's see what happens.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a sweet tale of a guy and a goal

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<v Speaker 5>and an ongoing love making relationship, which is tarnished by

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that after about a year, she is diagnosed

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<v Speaker 5>with ano genital HPV that she got from him. So

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<v Speaker 5>he gave her this, yes, Amy is grimacing, rightly, so

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<v Speaker 5>so anyway, no genital, Yeah, you know that's the medical correct,

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<v Speaker 5>that is the medical terms.

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<v Speaker 4>There's respiratory hp.

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<v Speaker 1>I no, no, it's just the a no part that

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard, so I'm just being curious.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Yes, so he gives her HPV.

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<v Speaker 5>He gives her HPV down there. She sues him. But

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<v Speaker 5>then and here's where we have a case. Maybe she

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<v Speaker 5>sends a demand letter to Geico wanting them to pay

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<v Speaker 5>out the full million dollar max on his auto insurance

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<v Speaker 5>policy because and nobody in this case is arguing this

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<v Speaker 5>point for some reason, that he gave it to her

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<v Speaker 5>while they were making love in his car.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. You don't make love in a car, You stoop

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<v Speaker 2>in the car.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in the starters.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And as you described this, basically, there's a song about this, right,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Making love in all the wrong places?

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<v Speaker 4>Cooking that's looking for love.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that it was one of those. Yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, once turns it into the insurance company, go I got.

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<v Speaker 2>It because of him. He was stooping me in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>In the car, it was a car the wrong place,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm trying to visually figure out what positions they

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<v Speaker 2>But while you're talking, I'm visualizing.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, don't distract yourself from the task at hand, which

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<v Speaker 5>is this case. So Geico of course says, get.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>That's ridiculous, and a lower court judge said as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, what happens is Geico goes to a lower court

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<v Speaker 5>judge to say, would you please do this declarative, declarative

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<v Speaker 5>thing that you do where you just say right now

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<v Speaker 5>that we don't have to cover this, and the lower

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<v Speaker 5>court says, yeah, you don't have to cover this, and

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<v Speaker 5>then these people go to the appeals court. One other

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<v Speaker 5>little wrinkle here, they entered into a settlement the guy

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<v Speaker 5>in the gow. Under the law in Missouri where this happened,

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<v Speaker 5>you can make a settlement where she agrees she can

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<v Speaker 5>only recover from the insurance company and never from him.

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<v Speaker 5>So you can see her motivation to have Geico cover

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<v Speaker 5>this because she's already agreed she can never get anything

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<v Speaker 5>from the guy. Geico says, get out of here. That's crazy,

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<v Speaker 5>she says, Look at the way your policy is written.

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<v Speaker 5>It says that you will pay damages when the insured

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<v Speaker 5>becomes legally obligated to pay because of number one bodily

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<v Speaker 5>injury and number two damage her destruction to property arising

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<v Speaker 5>out of the ownership, maintenance, use of the owned auto.

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<v Speaker 5>She says, Look, the bodily injury doesn't have to have

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<v Speaker 5>anything to do with the ownership, maintenance, or use of

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<v Speaker 5>the car. It happened in the car. It's a bodily injury.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to cover it. What say you? And what

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<v Speaker 5>do you think? The Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals said to.

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<v Speaker 1>Her, I either it is written or it is implicit

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<v Speaker 1>in an auto insurance policy. That it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>with using the auto as is it intended to be used,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is driving it or parking it somehow connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the auto. Stooping in the auto is probably not covered,

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<v Speaker 1>is my guess. So they said no, They enjoyed the case,

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<v Speaker 1>no question. The court, when they took their coffee break,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly talked about this, saying, boy, do I have a

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<v Speaker 1>case for you. Wait till you see what came in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me today. The Appeals court because and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know if it is said in the insurance

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<v Speaker 1>policy that it must be connected to the driving or

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<v Speaker 1>ownership of the vehicle in a way that cars were

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<v Speaker 1>intended's that's my guest. I would even guess that a

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<v Speaker 1>non operative car on cinderblocks, that that would it would

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<v Speaker 1>not be covered, even though it was part of your

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<v Speaker 1>parking the car.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm saying it's a big no.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know that Gal is going to suffer

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<v Speaker 1>with her malady without getting paid.

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<v Speaker 4>You are correct, Here's what they said.

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<v Speaker 5>If you only look at the way it's worded, she

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<v Speaker 5>has a case just to the way they wrote the policy.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can't just look at those words. As you said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's implied that it is in connection with something about

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<v Speaker 5>using the car as you use a car, and that

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<v Speaker 5>if you didn't it would mean that if you have

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<v Speaker 5>Geico car insurance and somebody trips in your driveway, they

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<v Speaker 5>would have to pay. If you want to read it

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<v Speaker 5>the way that she wants to read it, So she,

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<v Speaker 5>unfortunately now will get no compensation from anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I'm envisioning if he is driving the vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>and she is injured, for example, does a great impression

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<v Speaker 1>of bobbing for apples at a party.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I believe that there could be coverage. Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>Put on your libel hat.

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<v Speaker 5>So they open a new amphitheater in Charlotte, North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 5>and before it actually opens, the people running the amphitheater

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<v Speaker 5>hire a company to bring shows to the Amphitheater, and

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<v Speaker 5>the first deal that they try to work on is

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<v Speaker 5>to bring a band called Big Head Todd and the Monsters,

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<v Speaker 5>which I've heard the name, I have not heard their music.

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<v Speaker 5>And apparently that immediately there's friction and there's an argument,

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<v Speaker 5>and the guy who runs the Amphitheater says that the

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<v Speaker 5>guy from the promotion company doesn't know what he's doing

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<v Speaker 5>and is an amateur, and if he's gonna stay with

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<v Speaker 5>that company, then the Amphitheater will not do any more

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<v Speaker 5>business with that company, and so publicly, well, he says

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<v Speaker 5>it in front of the other people who are involved. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>and sure enough the company says, we can't have you

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<v Speaker 5>because they won't do any business with us. We like you,

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<v Speaker 5>You're fine, he's wrong, but he said he won't do

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<v Speaker 5>any business with us if you're still involved, because he

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<v Speaker 5>thinks you don't know what you're doing, and you're an amateur.

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<v Speaker 5>So the guy sues, and he said, you can't call

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<v Speaker 5>me an amateur and say that I don't know what

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing, and that's actionable. And he says, that's just

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<v Speaker 5>an opinion, that's just my opinion. And also, amateur cannot

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<v Speaker 5>be defamatory because amateur just means you do something, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>it is, you do it for pleasure and not for

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<v Speaker 5>a profession. So how can the word amateur be defamatory?

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<v Speaker 5>And the lower court says, yeah, that's right, get out

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<v Speaker 5>of here with your complaint.

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<v Speaker 4>But he goes up to in this case.

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<v Speaker 5>A district court in North Carolina, from the state court

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<v Speaker 5>to a federal court, and he says, listen saying I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know what I'm doing and that I'm an amateur,

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<v Speaker 5>there's facts that that those are factual statements that you're

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<v Speaker 5>that I am not capable of doing my job. And

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<v Speaker 5>he says, no, it's opinion, and what do you say,

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<v Speaker 5>and what do you think?

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<v Speaker 6>The judge said, I think it's actionable because you can

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<v Speaker 6>have an opinion, but within that opinion, he is making

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<v Speaker 6>a fact that in fact does.

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<v Speaker 1>Interfere with his ability. I mean the damage. The causality

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<v Speaker 1>is right there. You call me an amateur. Because you

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<v Speaker 1>call me an amateur, I lost business, I have been fired.

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<v Speaker 1>I can connect the dots and that is beyond just

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion. I think I think the line was crossed

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<v Speaker 1>and a Now, whether it prevails or not, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, now you have to prove that.

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<v Speaker 2>They fired him because of that. But it, sir, looks

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<v Speaker 2>like it's actionable. What did the court say?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's interesting because you not only did you

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<v Speaker 5>agree with the court, but the same exact observation, which

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<v Speaker 5>is he may think it's an opinion, but within what's

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<v Speaker 5>expressed he thinks as an opinion are in fact questions

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<v Speaker 5>of facts. Specifically, can this person perform his duties at

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<v Speaker 5>the level expected of someone in his position. That's a

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<v Speaker 5>factual question. Absolutely, So, yes, he can move forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're right.

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<v Speaker 5>He may not be able ultimately to win, but he

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<v Speaker 5>gets to have another day in court.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Oh I feel good.

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<v Speaker 1>Two for two. All right, man, we'll catch you next Monday.

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