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Speaker 3: Welcome to II on the Ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, Pleeve jagins awas in with
Speaker 3: us today is our guy, Henry. Welcome to Wednesday's show.
Speaker 3: I hope it's more fluid than yesterday.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 4: I'm in your banging microphones because I'm rearranging myself.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my setup right. Steve.
Speaker 3: Good thing though, Jay. We have some pretty smart kids here, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 2: Henry's all over this right here, he's got this. Happy
Speaker 2: to be here, Henry, very happy. A little confusing, but
Speaker 2: I think you'll get again.
Speaker 4: We've got our friend Tony is standing over you. He's
Speaker 4: got it all under control. So we're all good.
Speaker 3: Our training wheels are with us for another day, so
Speaker 3: that's great. He'll help us skip to today. Hey, another day.
Speaker 3: As we get close to to Arizona football versus Kansas
Speaker 3: State tomorrow, we're gonna have the uh the beat writer
Speaker 3: from from Kansas State give us some insight about them
Speaker 3: sound their website that they're banged up to on the
Speaker 3: offensive line. So it's almost like, you know, I think
Speaker 3: they can say tiff or.
Speaker 4: Tat well, survival of the fittest, right, two games in,
Speaker 4: who's got you know, who's got the guys, who's got
Speaker 4: the depth, who's got the talent? And you know, I look,
Speaker 4: I the the Arizona fans that I hang with, and
Speaker 4: you know who they are. They're worried, all right. I
Speaker 4: worried about Arizona's offense and because offensive line, and that's
Speaker 4: the number one probably right the worried about the offensive line.
Speaker 4: You know, if if if Corey Cosby Crosby Merritt doesn't
Speaker 4: come back, whatever his name is, j c R or
Speaker 4: j CM whatever, they if he doesn't come back, they're like,
Speaker 4: we got guys, We're okay. They're not worried about team
Speaker 4: act not catching any passes last week.
Speaker 2: They're worried about the line play goes the line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the line play was it was a struggle
Speaker 4: last week and that that's what that's what they're worried about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they should be they should be. Well,
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. I think the line is probably
Speaker 3: still at seven if it all holds well. But again,
Speaker 3: remember there I saw from the paper from from Kansas City,
Speaker 3: Kansas Manhattan. They had Utah, Kansas State was three. I
Speaker 3: think Oklahoma State was two three, Arizona was still at
Speaker 3: five in terms of the power ranking in the conference.
Speaker 3: So if it holds true, Kansas lost last week, No,
Speaker 3: Kansas is not. So it's it's uh Utah, Oklahoma State,
Speaker 3: Kansas State, Kansas State.
Speaker 2: I don't know who was from, maybe Iowa State maybe,
Speaker 2: but David Iowa last week at Iowa.
Speaker 3: So it could be that Arizona five and Kansas State's
Speaker 3: number fourteen. So if true to form, it's it's going
Speaker 3: to be a seven point yeah, seven point.
Speaker 2: Ye, yeah, it's got to be.
Speaker 4: It's got to be a game under seven points based
Speaker 4: on rankings and just what we think is going to happen.
Speaker 4: You know, if on the road, yeah, on the road,
Speaker 4: either way, If aar zone keeps it to a touchdown
Speaker 4: or less and they lose, then I'm not going to
Speaker 4: be unhappy with that.
Speaker 2: You know. I mean, you have to expect that this
Speaker 2: is gonna be a tough place to play, and then
Speaker 2: they go to Utah and that's going to be even tougher.
Speaker 3: Y tough, right, especially after last year's game. And we'll
Speaker 3: get to that next week. But I'm a firm believer
Speaker 3: that when you have the payback or whatever you want
Speaker 3: to call it, that's.
Speaker 4: Gonna be a tough yeah, because last year they're mad. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean not only are they mad, they're good.
Speaker 3: Of all the games that you saw and I probably
Speaker 3: saw last year, that was the most.
Speaker 2: Wow to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're thinking, what, yeah, that was the moment
Speaker 4: again that you thought this team is really really good.
Speaker 4: And then they finished it out, you know, ay beating
Speaker 4: as U and beating Oklahoma, and that was the game
Speaker 4: that told me this is really up. Up until that point,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I just couldn't believe that they were. They
Speaker 4: continue to.
Speaker 2: Win these games, and they kept winning games, and the
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, they win ten games, and then
Speaker 2: here they are, Yeah, there are.
Speaker 4: And now we've got this expectation that they should win
Speaker 4: ten games and they probably shouldn't. Probably eight is the number, Steve,
Speaker 4: I think eight's the number you lose. These two you've
Speaker 4: got You've got eight games left, you've got two wins.
Speaker 4: If you go six and two in that stretch of
Speaker 4: eight games, how can you be unhappy with that? So
Speaker 4: let me ask you and just just came up in
Speaker 4: my head.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we've talked about the players, talked about the coaches.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about Brannan real quick. Over the last since
Speaker 3: we've covered it in eighty seven eighty eight, right, we've
Speaker 3: had Dictomy kind of the nonchalant guy behind the scenes
Speaker 3: who kind of got fiery behind the shone. He wasn't
Speaker 3: he wasn't animated, Right, he wasn't animated. It wasn't kind
Speaker 3: of your he he wasn't.
Speaker 2: The mullet. Well, he wasn't the Oklahoma state coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah we know that guys, we you'll pop in our heads.
Speaker 3: So then we go from him to to macivate coach
Speaker 3: was just kind of not he was just a piece
Speaker 3: of a guy in a suit. And then we go
Speaker 3: from him.
Speaker 4: To Stoops man in your face and kind of you
Speaker 4: kind of up and down.
Speaker 3: And then we go from him to to rich Rock
Speaker 3: kind of a lesser a stoops light stoops.
Speaker 2: That's a really good way to put Okay, so we.
Speaker 3: Go from him to someone who had a pulse bare,
Speaker 3: we go from him to to Jed who had a
Speaker 3: pulse and was more of a hey, how you doing,
Speaker 3: what's going on?
Speaker 4: And in the middle of things, and you know he
Speaker 4: was he was a salesman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So we've
Speaker 4: seen all that. Now we have Brennan who and I've
Speaker 4: been told this.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, he's just sitting on the sign and
Speaker 3: I observing and just clapping, kind of rooting the guys on.
Speaker 3: Do you want to see more from him in the
Speaker 3: people that we've seen from eighty seven to now? Or
Speaker 3: are you okay with it for now?
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it for now. But you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I don't feel like he's does he need
Speaker 4: to be disinterested? Like he's not part of the conversation
Speaker 4: that he's.
Speaker 2: I don't sense that.
Speaker 4: Is he different from the others, or at least from
Speaker 4: all the others that they've had since Dick Tony He's yeah,
Speaker 4: he's different, But.
Speaker 2: Every coach, every coach has his style.
Speaker 4: I mean you think, you know, think of some of
Speaker 4: those A s U coaches what's his name, Todd Graham, right,
Speaker 4: you know, with the with the with the with the
Speaker 4: crew cut and the uh you know, in the headphones
Speaker 4: and the whole thing. And he was just always out
Speaker 4: in the middle of stuff. You know, that's kind of
Speaker 4: coaches that you've seen. You know, I watched Marcus Freeman
Speaker 4: of Notre Dame. I mean I don't feel I don't
Speaker 4: see him watching feel like he's said there doing stuff
Speaker 4: on every single play, making you know stuff. Now they lost,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, but you know, but it's not
Speaker 4: all even Nick Saban, right, he was laid in his
Speaker 4: guys call plays and stuff. Now, but you knew that
Speaker 4: he was. He was he had guys. But that's but
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying. Just because you're not in the
Speaker 4: headset screaming at the coaches to do things doesn't mean
Speaker 4: you're not in charge.
Speaker 3: I think there needs to be more of a sample size,
Speaker 3: and I think they knew who they were getting when
Speaker 3: they hired him.
Speaker 2: It's not a criticism.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, yeah, I was under observation that you know,
Speaker 3: we've seen all the through the years, thirty seven years
Speaker 3: of this, he's more like Dicktomy than all of them,
Speaker 3: and he's kind of there for encouragement you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm a believer, and I said, and all that you
Speaker 3: practice Monday through Friday, you show what you've learned on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing I've seen. I haven't seen anything that
Speaker 4: makes me go, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I like this. Nothing. Well, you've only seen two games,
Speaker 2: but that's it. Yeah, I've only seen two games. We'll
Speaker 2: review this. I mean, this is a big game coming up.
Speaker 4: And in the first big game, somebody made the point
Speaker 4: that I saw it somewhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was on a.
Speaker 4: Fan side or Twitter or whatever, somebody's saying that if
Speaker 4: they're talking about Brannan's record on the road, you know,
Speaker 4: since he's been the head coach at San Jose State,
Speaker 4: and saying that if he wins this game, if they
Speaker 4: if Arizona wins this game, it is his biggest road
Speaker 4: win as a head coach. Which if you're coaching in
Speaker 4: San Jose State, you're probably right because you probably haven't
Speaker 4: had any road wins of this magnitude, So you know,
Speaker 4: it's a big game for him. He's on the road
Speaker 4: at a place like Kansas State, but at San Jose State,
Speaker 4: he's played games against teams like this on the road
Speaker 4: because you have to to make enough money to be
Speaker 4: able to, you know, to run your program. I don't
Speaker 4: think he's going to be intimidated by it now, and
Speaker 4: certainly Dino Babers isn't going to be intimidated by Duayne
Speaker 4: Keen is not going to be intimidated by it. And
Speaker 4: if they're not intimidated by it, then they pass it
Speaker 4: on to their coaches and their players.
Speaker 3: The funny thing is, and we've seen this a thousand
Speaker 3: times before, covering all these teams, if they pull this
Speaker 3: off the last two we still mean anything that you're correct,
Speaker 3: you know, just like when Arizona lost too Clemson in
Speaker 3: the last three months, didn't mean.
Speaker 2: No, well because you putting things in perspective of the
Speaker 2: rivera way.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're right, but you know maybe that time
Speaker 3: when no, no, I don't remember that game. We're moving
Speaker 3: forward and now this is a moving forward game.
Speaker 4: This is this is this is this is a game
Speaker 4: that can It doesn't completely set the tone for the
Speaker 4: rest of the season, because I think it's gonna take
Speaker 4: a couple of games to set the tone for the
Speaker 4: rest of the season, but it starts to because you're
Speaker 4: at these first two games didn't tell us anything. So
Speaker 4: now you have these next two games that even if
Speaker 4: they don't win these two games, we know a lot
Speaker 4: more about them and how we think they might fare
Speaker 4: in their last in their last eight.
Speaker 3: Let's kind of just not move on from this because
Speaker 3: we'll have plenty to talk about. But talk about today's show.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have Bob Kemp. I don't know how you
Speaker 3: identified them, but I'm gonna tell you right now. It's
Speaker 3: no longer doing his radio show in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: Uh. He ended that in July.
Speaker 3: So now he's gonna he's creating a new website for
Speaker 3: sports up in the valley.
Speaker 4: Okay, I just called him a sports talk radio because
Speaker 4: that's what he's been.
Speaker 2: He's been for one hundred years for guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just not working for a specific station anymore.
Speaker 4: He'll be a sports media guy of some sort. There's
Speaker 4: our first chance to talk to him. You think he'll
Speaker 4: be more relaxed, You think.
Speaker 2: Yes, very much.
Speaker 3: So I talked to him a couple of days ago,
Speaker 3: and he's he's good with what's going on, and he's
Speaker 3: gonna have a new website. He'll talk to us all
Speaker 3: about that. And he's still in tune with the look
Speaker 3: you never you never leave the media. I've never left.
Speaker 2: I haven't. I have listened to this, I haven't.
Speaker 4: I haven't covered sports foreign newspaper in thirty four years. Okay,
Speaker 4: but I still feel like I've been a part of
Speaker 4: the media by knowing all you guys, being around it,
Speaker 4: and then working the working the basketball games.
Speaker 2: And controlling Twitter and controlling Twitter.
Speaker 4: So I feel like I feel like I'm I've always
Speaker 4: felt like I've stayed apart, and I've enjoyed the way
Speaker 4: I've been able to continue to be.
Speaker 2: Forget lastly having a crazy opinion, and I have an opinion.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you would call it crazy, but well,
Speaker 2: this review.
Speaker 3: So we have him at four fifteen, three fifteen, and
Speaker 3: then we're gonna have Adrian Denny. We didn't put it
Speaker 3: on Facebook on our socials because he was the last
Speaker 3: minute bad. Today they're opening for partickets for this year.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about you know that, uh, that season where
Speaker 3: they were in limbo kinda and now they're going to
Speaker 3: be back for at least a season. He'll tell us
Speaker 3: more of what's going on right with the road Runners.
Speaker 3: And then we have tomorrow all day to talk about football.
Speaker 3: But anybody want to call you can. We have a
Speaker 3: few lines now, welcome to our new show. Thank you exactly,
Speaker 3: Thank you, Tony and everybody else involved. Five two, oho,
Speaker 3: four one six, seventy four forty you can call in.
Speaker 3: They could even call in while we have I don't
Speaker 3: know if we do. If we have a guest and
Speaker 3: we have somebody who wants to have a question to
Speaker 3: the guest, we could do that.
Speaker 4: We can, but I think for now we choose not
Speaker 4: to because I don't want to confuse us.
Speaker 3: We have training we have we have Tony, we have
Speaker 3: training wheels. Well we have so just in case seventy
Speaker 3: four forty you guys know who have been calling.
Speaker 4: You guys know the numbers. So all right, how we
Speaker 4: I don't have my thing up this is we have
Speaker 4: three minutes. I think about keep going. Yeah, okay, all.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, so.
Speaker 4: I you know, I mean, like I said, we're gonna
Speaker 4: have this conversation all week long until we finally get
Speaker 4: the game. But we do have the Kansas State guy
Speaker 4: coming back tomorrow, right, Yes, who.
Speaker 2: Do we have?
Speaker 3: His name is uh Tim Everson, I think is He's
Speaker 3: with the Kansas City newspaper. He's the he's one of
Speaker 3: those guys like the NAU people. He's the sports editor,
Speaker 3: he's the writer for the team and all that.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a one man band. It was. He's not
Speaker 2: the guy that we had because we had a Kansas
Speaker 2: State guy on no way to Kansas guy. If we
Speaker 2: had a Kansas guy. This is Trevor. I thought we
Speaker 2: had Kansas State guy while back, quite a while back. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So we'll have that tomorrow and then we'll add maybe
Speaker 2: Jake or somebody before the game on Thursday, right, just
Speaker 2: to catch up, right, absolutely, all right.
Speaker 3: Right, okay, so cool, we'll be busy today. We'll get
Speaker 3: a hold of him in about two or three minutes
Speaker 3: and see what's going on.
Speaker 2: Right, it sounds good, all right? What else, Steve? Not much?
Speaker 3: I think we have a call, no, no call, all right,
Speaker 3: So I think that's it. You want to go, We
Speaker 3: can go and come back and get a hold of Hey, Bob's.
Speaker 2: Right and form Yeah, right, first, okay, let's go and
Speaker 2: take our break. We'll be right back, Bob Camp We'll
Speaker 2: be joining us and we'll just talk about stuff. Maybe
Speaker 2: we'll talk about what it's like to be retired, all right,
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to ying the ball here on Fox
Speaker 3: Sports Sports. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Chickensaw And now I
Speaker 3: think we have Bob camp for Bob.
Speaker 2: Are you want?
Speaker 12: I am here?
Speaker 11: All right?
Speaker 2: We're in a new studio, Bob.
Speaker 4: So we're in a new studio or trying to still
Speaker 4: figure things out. Answering the phone isn't like a basic thing.
Speaker 2: So good thing, Bob. You don't have to deal with
Speaker 2: this stuff anymore.
Speaker 12: That's what I'm told.
Speaker 2: How's life for you now?
Speaker 12: Life for me now is it's okay. I mean I'm
Speaker 12: not doing local radio anymore. They kind of pull the
Speaker 12: plug on us on July the twelfth.
Speaker 13: I mean, we're good.
Speaker 12: They gave me a nice departure package, so that worked out, okay.
Speaker 12: And now I have a website, bob temp dot info
Speaker 12: that people need to check out every day because I
Speaker 12: need page views on there so I can try to
Speaker 12: sell it. And today we'll have a have a Diamondbacks update.
Speaker 12: They're still playing this marathon game because they scored like
Speaker 12: one hundred runs against Texas. Had news is Meryl Kelly
Speaker 12: had to leave this game with another injury today. That's
Speaker 12: not a good thing. Also today, by the way, on
Speaker 12: bob camp dot net is we'll have an Austin Wells update.
Speaker 12: The U of alum who's kicking butt with the Yankees.
Speaker 12: Well a little note on him today too.
Speaker 2: Okay, Bob.
Speaker 4: What I want to know more than anything is there
Speaker 4: gambling information.
Speaker 13: I'm going to be on there all there is today. Okay,
Speaker 13: this is the first.
Speaker 12: I'm believe this thing's going been off and operating for
Speaker 12: really two weeks or so, and we've had sort of
Speaker 12: suggestions for certain games. Today is actually the first baseball edition.
Speaker 12: I thought you're not quite posted yet. I'm waiting for
Speaker 12: the Diamondbacks to game in in our discussion end, and
Speaker 12: I need to add one more baseball item that's gonna
Speaker 12: I'll get you the update today, But today's.
Speaker 13: The first baseball edition I've had.
Speaker 12: It's been all football at this point. However, once we
Speaker 12: get to the baseball playoffs, we will definitely cover those
Speaker 12: in depth. And the baseball playoff started twenty days.
Speaker 2: Twenty God dang, I didn't know. I'd realized it was
Speaker 2: that close.
Speaker 3: So, Bob, are you going to be handling all the
Speaker 3: sports up there from your your advantage?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm bought you. I'm paying Well. Well, we don't
Speaker 12: have to worry about hockey anymore, I thank god, because
Speaker 12: they're gone. So uh so, I didn't pay attention to
Speaker 12: them the last five years anyway, So now I don't
Speaker 12: know all that to tell people, I don't pay attention
Speaker 12: to hockey anymore. Yeah, so I watch all the Diamondbacks
Speaker 12: games and uh again once the Suns get started here.
Speaker 12: And I think the Sons have actually done a good
Speaker 12: job with their roster in the offseason. They've done exactly
Speaker 12: what they should have done the last two years and
Speaker 12: got some complimentary players to go with the stars, and
Speaker 12: I think they have a better chance to I never
Speaker 12: bought into them at any point last year. I thought
Speaker 12: they were a complete joke, including the offseason. But you know,
Speaker 12: I think the James Jones finally has figured out the compliment.
Speaker 12: Complimentary players are good for your team. And hopefully Matt
Speaker 12: the owner is going to let him do his job
Speaker 12: and not try to be a fantasy basketball owner.
Speaker 13: There you go.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you real quick because of the
Speaker 3: DeAndre Ayton thing, who who won that? Did the Suns
Speaker 3: or did DeAndre?
Speaker 12: How about push?
Speaker 2: That's good analogy?
Speaker 12: Yeah it was not good. I mean Nurkice was they?
Speaker 12: I'm sure they would like to have gotten rid of
Speaker 12: Durkics this offseason, but who wants him? He was a
Speaker 12: good rebounder, He is a her wind Is. They went
Speaker 12: you know eight in his strength in his heyday hair
Speaker 12: is he was a really good picke and roll defender,
Speaker 12: which is very important in the NBA. Obviously, Nurkice might
Speaker 12: be the worst.
Speaker 13: Picke and roll defender of any center in the world.
Speaker 4: In the world.
Speaker 12: And uh, you know, as much as he did rebounding
Speaker 12: and occasionally made him he's good at the rim if
Speaker 12: he hits the ball, assuming he catches the ball, which
Speaker 12: was also a problem. But you know it was you know,
Speaker 12: they were a much better team with Ayton here than
Speaker 12: with Durkic.
Speaker 4: All right, so let's uh, let's go to the let's
Speaker 4: go to the Cardinals one game, right, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4: But did you see anything that uh kind of has
Speaker 4: a might have a lasting impact or you know that
Speaker 4: you see that this could be a season long thing.
Speaker 2: Anything like that is a tour to tell anything about
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 13: Unfortunately, I saw way too much of what I saw
Speaker 13: last year, which is when the.
Speaker 12: Cardinals had the lead, they're they're very good at running
Speaker 12: the football. Uh, they have an excellent run blocking offensive line.
Speaker 12: Their past blocking was atrocious last year. It was beyond
Speaker 12: atrocious in Gay one. And now you basically they lost
Speaker 12: to the right tackle they've they've got from you know,
Speaker 12: the Bengals. He's out he's out for a long time,
Speaker 12: maybe the season, at least for four games. Paris Johnson,
Speaker 12: who was a really good run blocker at right tackle
Speaker 12: last year and a terrible pass blocker. Uh, he's playing
Speaker 12: left tackle now and he was awful in the first
Speaker 12: game in pass protection. Was a turnstile playing left tackle.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 12: Kyler Murray is still short. He can't see down the field.
Speaker 12: He's very he's actually accurate when but he's a one
Speaker 12: one read quarterback if the one if the first read
Speaker 12: is not there.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 12: For he's been playing five years now. This is not
Speaker 12: improved at all. And he's you know, I'm not a
Speaker 12: Kyler Murray guy. I mean he's not in bad not
Speaker 12: a bad fantasy football quarterback because you get his rushing yards,
Speaker 12: but he's not. I don't think he's ever going to
Speaker 12: be a good NFL quarterback. I think he's just as
Speaker 12: average that you could be. And that wasn't good. And
Speaker 12: the defense is just atrocious. I mean they have there
Speaker 12: are a few teams in football that have worse defensive
Speaker 12: personnel than the Cardinals. That was the case last year.
Speaker 12: They really didn't do a whole lot to improve that
Speaker 12: of the offseason, and they gave up. Basically back to
Speaker 12: the gambling thing. You know, I think that betting me
Speaker 12: over in almost every Cardinals game is probably at least
Speaker 12: for the foreseeable future, is a good idea. However, when
Speaker 12: I say that, I should also stop and say such,
Speaker 12: I'm not necessarily sure that's a good idea this week,
Speaker 12: because they play the Rams, and the Rams are going
Speaker 12: to be without forty four of their five offensive linemen
Speaker 12: have already been declared out for this game, and Puka
Speaker 12: Puka and Nakuwa he tried to say, is also out.
Speaker 12: He's on injured reserved for weeks. So the Rams are
Speaker 12: extremely shorthanded. The other side of that, of course, the
Speaker 12: Cardinals against McVay, they have beaten him one time in
Speaker 12: like seven years, literally seven years. And uh, basically, Sean
Speaker 12: McVay has beaten four different Carnivals head coaches, starting with
Speaker 12: Bruce Arians and going on through to you Jonathan Gann, who's.
Speaker 13: There now right right.
Speaker 3: How we we had this debate thirty this week which
Speaker 3: just trying to find out how tall, how real tall
Speaker 3: is summary, how what's his actual size?
Speaker 2: Not they lest him at five to ten. He's not
Speaker 2: five to ten, No, he's not I.
Speaker 12: Stood next to him like three or four years ago,
Speaker 12: you know, and and uh, I'm like five nine and
Speaker 12: he's not taller than I am. Yeah, so yeah, it's
Speaker 12: a yeah, he's a very small dude, and uh yeah
Speaker 12: he's put together. Well yeah, but I mean he's just
Speaker 12: a small dude, and he can't see down the middle
Speaker 12: of the field, across the line of scrimmage. He's a yeah,
Speaker 12: basically a one read quarterback.
Speaker 13: But it is disturbing.
Speaker 12: He really doesn't seem to be any better now than
Speaker 12: he was when he was, you know, his rookie season,
Speaker 12: and he just hasn't been The weaknesses I saw then
Speaker 12: are still there now. And you know, fortunately for him,
Speaker 12: you have you know, he's twenty something years old, mid
Speaker 12: twenties or whatever he is now, and my guess he's
Speaker 12: not going to get a taller at this point. He's
Speaker 12: not gonna have a gross, grossfurt at this part of
Speaker 12: his life.
Speaker 2: You made you made the comment, you made the comment
Speaker 2: that he's not gonna be or he's not a good
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. What's what's missing?
Speaker 4: What do you besides not being tall enough, what's missing
Speaker 4: that makes him not be a good NFL quarterback?
Speaker 12: Well, I don't think everything is in his in his defense,
Speaker 12: if there's a defense for him, Yeah, rarely have they
Speaker 12: had a good pass protecting offensive line. Okay, yeah, for
Speaker 12: obviously his first what four three four? Was it four
Speaker 12: years that Kingsbury was here with him? Three years? First
Speaker 12: three years with King's a lot of people just blamed
Speaker 12: Kingsbury for everything, which I thought was absurd, and now
Speaker 12: we have not really I would seen anything different. He's
Speaker 12: had three different coordinators and all that. Now that's not
Speaker 12: a good thing either, I'm sure, but for somebody that
Speaker 12: you basically paid to be one of the high at
Speaker 12: the time, at least that's obviously changed lately. But at
Speaker 12: the time he was like the second highest paid quarterback
Speaker 12: in the league when they gave the absurd contract extension.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, did you? Before the season started,
Speaker 3: I think to win maybe eight games.
Speaker 12: No, I was searching for a win total under eight.
Speaker 12: There's seven and a half's out there. The price wasn't right,
Speaker 12: so I didn't bet it. But no, I think they're
Speaker 12: clearly the worst team in the division. I mean clearly
Speaker 12: the worst team in the division, and partly because it's
Speaker 12: a good division. Obviously, San Francisco and Los Angeles. My
Speaker 12: best friend, who is very smart, thinks that the Seahawks
Speaker 12: are good. I'm not quite buying it on the Seahawks yet,
Speaker 12: but clearly those three teams are substantially better of the Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just have a hard time saying that the Seahawks
Speaker 4: can be good when Gino Smith is their quarterback.
Speaker 2: I know he he did pretty good, but what the heck? Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm went on that he.
Speaker 12: Was really good. Guys, did get my years straight here.
Speaker 12: He was really good in twenty twenty two. Right, He
Speaker 12: was mediocre at best last year, and they he was
Speaker 12: awful at the end of close games last year when
Speaker 12: they had a chance to win some more games. The
Speaker 12: year before, he made plays at the at the end
Speaker 12: of the close games and they won those games. Last year.
Speaker 12: He was a large contributing factor as to why they
Speaker 12: did win those games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're talking to Bob Kemp, who's moved on from
Speaker 4: his radio showing Phoenix to a website.
Speaker 2: Give us the website.
Speaker 12: Again, Bob, bobcamp dot net.
Speaker 2: Bob camp dot net can find out about find out all.
Speaker 12: Right, bobcamp dot I'll get this right, bobcamp dot.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Bob Kevin info dot net, get all the Phoenix
Speaker 4: sports you want, and then he's gonna give us some
Speaker 4: gambling tips and we're all going to get rich off
Speaker 4: what he says.
Speaker 12: Oh no, oh no, some days we do. Some days
Speaker 12: we don't.
Speaker 2: Well, good luck with that. Look with it. And now
Speaker 2: you might be getting calls of jail on the side
Speaker 2: by the way, Hey, hey, left you what do you
Speaker 2: got going?
Speaker 12: Okay, Well, some days we do.
Speaker 2: Let's talk.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about the website a little bit, Bob, because
Speaker 4: you know you're it's an it's a business venture, obviously,
Speaker 4: but clearly it's because you love doing this, right, I
Speaker 4: mean you just don't. I mean, you're you're, you're, you're
Speaker 4: off the radio station, but you still want to be
Speaker 4: doing something, right?
Speaker 2: What what what is it in you that makes you
Speaker 2: want to do that?
Speaker 12: Why?
Speaker 2: Why is that.
Speaker 12: We're doing the whole life?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right?
Speaker 12: I mean I was very fortunate I got involved in
Speaker 12: the newspaper business. It was a high school correspondent for
Speaker 12: Canandoro High School in twos on and uh nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 12: when I was a sophomore in high school. I was
Speaker 12: and that developed into a full time job at the
Speaker 12: Tucson Citizen for two or three years until I had
Speaker 12: an opportunity to leave and went to Prescott. Was the
Speaker 12: sports editor, was first or sports writer in this eventually
Speaker 12: the sports editor of the Prescott Courier. So I just
Speaker 12: I've been. Yeah, I grew up in Columbus, Ohio. So
Speaker 12: my dad was, you know, into sports. My dad was
Speaker 12: a professional baseball player. Like my first memories of life
Speaker 12: were watching him play baseball, and in the Ohio State
Speaker 12: was you know, I'll remember ever not rooting for Ohio
Speaker 12: State every Saturday.
Speaker 11: Yep.
Speaker 12: So I mean my mother was a softball pitcher back
Speaker 12: in her day. So it was a sports background, and
Speaker 12: so you know, I don't think I had much of
Speaker 12: a choice.
Speaker 2: So now my question is, what the hell happened to you?
Speaker 2: Just joking, choking.
Speaker 12: That I could play a little softball back in my
Speaker 12: day a little bit. Yeah, I was young, arm My
Speaker 12: accuracy was a little shaky at third base, but I
Speaker 12: always had a good first basement. So just get it
Speaker 12: over there, all.
Speaker 2: Right, you've been. You've been in Arizona then though for
Speaker 2: fifty plus years. Right, I was just gonna say you
Speaker 2: it on I left.
Speaker 12: I left for a while went to Las Vegas for
Speaker 12: a few years, with Chicago for ten years, so basically
Speaker 12: moved here. My parents moved to Tucson in nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you were found in Vegas, right, I'm
Speaker 3: sorry you were found in Vegas or discovered kind of Well,
Speaker 3: I was just radio wise.
Speaker 12: I was my first radio opportunity. But I was still
Speaker 12: doing hisspapers in seventeen years, eighteen years before I went
Speaker 12: to Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: All right, big big Arizona State of Arizona sports moments
Speaker 4: for you that maybe you were for me, things you
Speaker 4: were at or just something that because you were in
Speaker 4: Arizona was a big moment.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, and to tell us the times you were
Speaker 2: at U of A because you went to school here.
Speaker 12: I did. The biggest thing that happened to the U
Speaker 12: of A when I was going to school there in
Speaker 12: the seventies was you know, they just joined the Pac
Speaker 12: twelve and there was the infamous week where they beat
Speaker 12: USC and UCLA and basketball and consecutive home games. Right,
Speaker 12: And I still have a button somewhere in this my
Speaker 12: home here somewhere they had these buttons of the scores
Speaker 12: when they beat the US. USC was really good. And
Speaker 12: UCLA was right past the john right after John Wood retired.
Speaker 12: Right after that, I think Gary Cunningham was the coach
Speaker 12: there at UCLA then before Larry Brown. But that was
Speaker 12: like the biggest deal in two So the biggest deal
Speaker 12: I'm living here is when the Cardinals went to the
Speaker 12: Super Bowl and I covered this. So I went to
Speaker 12: Tampa and covered the Super Bowl for the radio station.
Speaker 3: So just real quick, did you how many servings of
Speaker 3: spaghetti did you beat? After the USC?
Speaker 4: Get one more time that spaghetti, that spaghetti coupon we
Speaker 4: all got from being at the USC game.
Speaker 12: Oh, we didn't have that. I'll tell you what happened though,
Speaker 12: is that George Khalil threw a party in his house
Speaker 12: after they beat U C. L A and basically invited
Speaker 12: everybody in the arena do it now they want to
Speaker 12: go to court.
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I must mind. Intation must have got
Speaker 2: lost in the mail because or maybe maybe I dropped.
Speaker 12: On the after the game.
Speaker 4: Oh man, I was, I was charged. I was busy
Speaker 4: storming the court for that, Bob. I was busy storming
Speaker 4: the court.
Speaker 12: Well, you're running over me, then, I was. I was
Speaker 12: a student that was a student. Section for those two games.
Speaker 13: Yep, I was.
Speaker 2: That's where I was. I may have run into you, man,
Speaker 2: we might we may have met on.
Speaker 12: The court, might have sat next to you.
Speaker 2: You could have could because.
Speaker 4: I'll see what I remember being squeezed into that section
Speaker 4: that day that night.
Speaker 3: So, Bob, you didn't mention the World Series obviously winning
Speaker 3: that in two thousand and one.
Speaker 12: I wasn't here. I was where I was working in Chicago.
Speaker 12: Then I got here the year after they won the
Speaker 12: World Series. Oh wow, okay, yeah, they went to the
Speaker 12: World Series last year. They won the World Series in
Speaker 12: two thousand and one. I was here last year, but
Speaker 12: I didn't go to any of those playoff games. I was,
Speaker 12: you know, still, I'm basically at home all Moss all
Speaker 12: the time.
Speaker 13: So but I did not attend any of the world
Speaker 13: to be any of the playoff.
Speaker 12: Games last year.
Speaker 3: Well you wanted to ask him, because this is not
Speaker 3: happening now. But you're sixty five, he's sixty sixty seven.
Speaker 2: Right, Bob, that is correct. You you don't want to
Speaker 2: just mose you on into the sunset.
Speaker 12: I don't know what am I going to do. I mean,
Speaker 12: I can only watch so many shows on ion television,
Speaker 12: you know, which I've watched them all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that's well, yeah, I mean it's kind
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, what do you do. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: not retiring. I just got stuff to do. I have
Speaker 2: places to do.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I'll have a family, fortunately for the world,
Speaker 12: and I have eight children.
Speaker 13: So I mean that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 12: Is that's what I just sit here and watch. Okay,
Speaker 12: basically team the majority of the day, Bob, we.
Speaker 3: Only have a couple of minutes. So let me ask
Speaker 3: you your worst interview, the worst person.
Speaker 2: You let you liked or did.
Speaker 12: Worst person to interview. Oh, I know, let me think
Speaker 12: this over herb syndeck Wow.
Speaker 2: Because he was boring.
Speaker 12: But it wasn't his it wasn't his fault. I mean,
Speaker 12: he's a really, really, really smart guy. But yeah, I
Speaker 12: eventually I used to do a lot of I used
Speaker 12: to have mine, not a lot, but you know, more
Speaker 12: of you three or four times a year, and uh,
Speaker 12: we just never seem to connect.
Speaker 13: And yeah, I'm not the smartest, the sharpest.
Speaker 12: Two on the shed and he is. So that wasn't good.
Speaker 12: But then I eventually I figured out ask him something
Speaker 12: about rules of basketball or the way the game is
Speaker 12: played or something that. Once I figured that out, which
Speaker 12: unfortunately is like two or three years after he got
Speaker 12: the job here, it was good.
Speaker 13: It's just ask him like a, well, what do you
Speaker 13: think about your.
Speaker 12: Opponent tonight or something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just a waste of time and
Speaker 3: your best one, and your best one had to be
Speaker 3: uh Freeder Freed.
Speaker 12: My best interview ever was I was like nineteen years
Speaker 12: old working for the Citizen in Tucson, and I got
Speaker 12: the interview Chris Everett, who was like twenty and yeah,
Speaker 12: I mean, my god, every male in America that, even
Speaker 12: whether you were like nineteen or seventy, you were in
Speaker 12: love with Chris Everett. And then yeah, she sensed that
Speaker 12: I was very I was also very nervous talking to her,
Speaker 12: and she like almost told me to think she'd actually
Speaker 12: did tell me just calm down. There was the World
Speaker 12: Team Tennis thing in Arizona, the Phoenix Rackets maybe, and
Speaker 12: they played a couple of exhibition matches in Tucson, and
Speaker 12: that's why that was part of my job at the Citizens.
Speaker 12: Of the summer as well, you used to cover high
Speaker 12: school sports in the summer. It was kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 12: whatever is going on? Right, Yeah, somebody else wasn't covering,
Speaker 12: so I got sent as a World Team tennis and
Speaker 12: interviewed her.
Speaker 3: Well, Bob, appreciate your time. We're gonna get ahold of
Speaker 3: you back when this thing starts running. One more time
Speaker 3: with your website so we can say goodbye.
Speaker 12: Bob Kemp dot info and anytime that you'd like to call.
Speaker 12: I've got plenty of time and I'm paying attention, so
Speaker 12: I appreciate it. Thanks, thanks very much.
Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it. That's Bob Kemp from Bob
Speaker 2: Kem Bimpo. All Right, we're way over, so we gotta
Speaker 2: get out of here. Okay, yeah, we are all right,
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 4: Good for Bob, you know, because he's sixty seven. All right,
Speaker 4: I think you and I are in the same boat.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like, I can retire now, but I
Speaker 4: don't want to retire. I don't want to do I
Speaker 4: want to do stuff. I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 4: be sitting at home like he said. I mean, I
Speaker 4: do watch eva, I do watch games and stuff, But
Speaker 4: I want to be out doing stuff, right. I have
Speaker 4: clothes on today, I got slacks and a golf show.
Speaker 4: You're working at Dillers or something. I used to work
Speaker 4: at Dillars. I worked on the dock. And I see
Speaker 4: your shoes shoe sizes. Man, okay, cool?
Speaker 2: Cool? Uh No, I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean when you when you have that sixty seven,
Speaker 3: you can do what you want to, not do what
Speaker 3: you want to. Like I said, I'm never going to retire.
Speaker 3: Plus we're okay were you? Both both of us have
Speaker 3: had a chance to work in sports. For you, you
Speaker 3: longer than me. But I worked long enough where I
Speaker 3: have an appreciation work.
Speaker 2: It didn't feel like work and the job like like
Speaker 2: you have to go to the post office, or like
Speaker 2: you have to go to Dillards and work, or like
Speaker 2: you got to go to a roof and right whatever.
Speaker 2: You know, we were we were going to sporting events,
Speaker 2: and we were covering sports, and we were going to
Speaker 2: practices and and and talking about sports. That's not no no.
Speaker 2: So but let me say this to you though, because
Speaker 2: you dealt with it more than I did. Back in
Speaker 2: the day. Were some of the most out of shape.
Speaker 3: How you doing smokers for back in the day, you know,
Speaker 3: making deadline nervous as all held to make that deadline right,
Speaker 3: you have ten minutes to do a story, and you
Speaker 3: had to be good right by the time you made
Speaker 3: your deadline, You're like, where's the next pub? You know,
Speaker 3: where's exactly you're looking for the next pub because you
Speaker 3: needed a drink, right And don't you know those dudes
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: I was one of those dudes because I had, you know,
Speaker 4: as a as a as a writer for the morning paper.
Speaker 4: You know my story. You know, an Arizona game would
Speaker 4: end at ten. I had to have a first story
Speaker 4: in by eleven. So I'm watching the game and I'm
Speaker 4: writing my story, but I've got to turn the story
Speaker 4: in by eleven because we had a first We had
Speaker 4: what was called the State Edition, which was an early
Speaker 4: deadline for papers that went out to surrounding communities. Then
Speaker 4: you had a final deadline, which was like five minutes
Speaker 4: to twelve. So I would I would get a story in,
Speaker 4: run down to locker rooms, get quotes, and come back
Speaker 4: and insert that stuff into the story and resend it.
Speaker 4: You know, those those eight thirty basketball games were a
Speaker 4: pain because now your deadline was was shorter and you
Speaker 4: had to you know, you had to get a quote
Speaker 4: and even faster get a quote, get in. It was stressful,
Speaker 4: It was hard. But I never saw it as real work. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: if there is work, that was the work. Yeah, because
Speaker 4: going to games and all that, so driving to out
Speaker 4: of town whatever.
Speaker 2: If you had a family, it was different because yeah,
Speaker 2: you missed your family.
Speaker 3: But the deadline stuff and I didn't really have to
Speaker 3: deal with it because I was in the afternoon paper.
Speaker 2: Right. But for those guys, and I know those guys,
Speaker 2: those crusty yeah, I gotta go smoke, you know, you know,
Speaker 2: those nervous guys. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But but on the flip side of that, for me,
Speaker 4: that meant my work was done. Yeah at midnight, yeah,
Speaker 4: all right, there were some bar minutes left and I
Speaker 4: would go use those up, you know pretty much, you know,
Speaker 4: every time, whether it was whether we were the road
Speaker 4: or at home, right.
Speaker 2: Do we have a caller? Not yet?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so you know it's uh, it's but
Speaker 4: I never felt in the end is it didn't feel
Speaker 4: like a job. It just felt I was fun, I did.
Speaker 13: You.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I left the business, I stopped smoking when
Speaker 2: I left the business. I stopped smoking, so you know,
Speaker 2: I uh, all right, we're ready to go. We got
Speaker 2: a callar go ahead. Hello, Hi, you're you're on the
Speaker 2: air and I on the ball.
Speaker 13: Well, it's a real adventure to do that today.
Speaker 12: I can tell you.
Speaker 4: It is it is, it is, Jim, and we're trying
Speaker 4: to figure it out. But we're getting there.
Speaker 13: I'm trying to help you. Well, I want to say,
Speaker 13: I've got a couple of comments about this week's game
Speaker 13: and and the outlook here.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think.
Speaker 13: They're going to lose. I think they're gonna lose, probably
Speaker 13: big time. And the reason I say that they against
Speaker 13: two you know many football teams. Really, they haven't been
Speaker 13: able to control the line of scrimmage at all. They
Speaker 13: haven't been able to press and push their running game
Speaker 13: in order to control the ball.
Speaker 2: You are correct so.
Speaker 13: To think they're going to go into Kansas State's home
Speaker 13: territory and have any success. All I can imagine is
Speaker 13: that Britain that would have been sandbagging for two weeks,
Speaker 13: which I think was a terrible idea.
Speaker 3: If he was so, so, Jim, what would what would
Speaker 3: discourage you for a week later? Give me a score
Speaker 3: like if it's if you lose forty to ten, if
Speaker 3: they lose forty to twenty seven, is that better?
Speaker 2: What would be?
Speaker 13: Okay, I don't think the score is going to matter much.
Speaker 13: If I had to call a score, i'd say would
Speaker 13: be about forty one to seventeen.
Speaker 2: Jays is going to be Huh, I was just thinking
Speaker 2: of Jay sc Yeah. I don't agree with that. First.
Speaker 4: I don't agree that that's going to be the score.
Speaker 4: I don't think everyone's going to win.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna get beat like that because
Speaker 2: I don't think the defense is going to give up
Speaker 2: forty points to Kansas State if they lose by it
Speaker 2: to New Mexico.
Speaker 4: I know, I understand that, and and and I think
Speaker 4: that that was a product of a lot of things.
Speaker 4: But you know, teams get better and their they're Game three.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to give up that kind
Speaker 4: of thing. If they lose, it's going to be a
Speaker 4: twenty seven, seventeen twenty seven whatever.
Speaker 2: I think they'll be in the game, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I like, you don't expect them to win.
Speaker 4: I don't expect them to get blown out because I
Speaker 4: think talent wise, uh, they're good enough to not have
Speaker 4: that happen.
Speaker 2: Understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. In
Speaker 2: terms of what they've shown.
Speaker 13: I agree with that, but let you know again, they're
Speaker 13: not one thing that we have seen that would tell
Speaker 13: us they're going to improve on a forty point Okay, nothing, Jim.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of on your side. I kind of am.
Speaker 2: But I don't know about a blowout, Steve. That Jim,
Speaker 2: that's a real blowout.
Speaker 13: I said forty one seventeen.
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're going to forty one seventeens
Speaker 2: a blowout.
Speaker 13: I think they're going to go to Kansas State and
Speaker 13: have based on what we've seen, I don't think they're
Speaker 13: going to have any success with that same garbage.
Speaker 2: So what was your second? Wait?
Speaker 4: Wait, if forty one seventeen is not a blowout, what
Speaker 4: is a blowout? Because I think forty one seventeen is
Speaker 4: a blowout.
Speaker 13: It's uh, it's five touchdowns and two field goals and
Speaker 13: the other side is two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: But forty one seventeen to me qualifies as a blowout.
Speaker 2: So I don't think they you know, forty one seventeen
Speaker 2: is a run rule so I don't know. All right.
Speaker 4: Well, I hear you, Jim, And I know that there's
Speaker 4: a lot of people who think like you, think that
Speaker 4: they haven't seen anything that leads them to believe Arizona
Speaker 4: can hang with with Kansas State.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's some people in Kansas who think
Speaker 2: they can't.
Speaker 13: I'm so disappointed that they didn't just push the line
Speaker 13: put and if they failed a couple series, so well
Speaker 13: go back and push the line and the running game
Speaker 13: again and again until you get it right in the game. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I hear you, because that's the only way they're going
Speaker 13: to have success.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, I hear you, Jim. I totally hear you. I'm
Speaker 4: just not in agreement with you in terms of what
Speaker 4: I think is going to happen. I agree with what
Speaker 4: you're saying about what has happened.
Speaker 13: We can daydream about what's going to happen, so until
Speaker 13: it happened, all right, Jim.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks about you appreciate it. Okay, all right, again,
Speaker 4: I go back to experience. Right coming out of Texas
Speaker 4: Tech nineteen eight, nineteen eighty nine season, they got obliterated, obliterated.
Speaker 3: They had every reason to win that Geve going.
Speaker 4: In right Texas Tech was you know the I mean
Speaker 4: you just and they got smashed and I came out
Speaker 4: of that game thinking they don't they don't even win
Speaker 4: three games that year.
Speaker 2: Then they beat number nine Oklahoma here that was. That
Speaker 2: was a typical dictomy.
Speaker 4: Regardless what happened last week can change dramatically, sure for
Speaker 4: what happened to what happens this week.
Speaker 3: The thing about it, without us, we don't know what
Speaker 3: we don't know because two games we just don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't know the Brennan situation.
Speaker 3: In fact, Javier Javier said he did a couple of
Speaker 3: stories on Brendan Brenton. If you have time to call us,
Speaker 3: we have some time. Give us a freer calls and
Speaker 3: just tell us what you researched and what you saw,
Speaker 3: if you'd like to call us.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is that it's not out of the
Speaker 4: realm of possibility that Arizona can show up and play
Speaker 4: really well on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Maybe not, maybe maybe they don't have the guys.
Speaker 4: Maybe the depth is more of an issue than we think,
Speaker 4: but maybe not right And so until it happens, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to you know, I'm not going to sit
Speaker 4: here and say that there's no way because I think again,
Speaker 4: in the n STVS are college guys, right. You know,
Speaker 4: from one week to the next, stuff happens, and it
Speaker 4: changes dramatically. Who thought, after what Texas A and what
Speaker 4: Notre Dame did to Texas A and M that they
Speaker 4: were going to lose an illinoist home that just goes dramatic.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I guess can change. That's why emotions
Speaker 3: play so so big of a game. You get up
Speaker 3: for a one game here, you think you got the
Speaker 3: world by the ingers, and the ingers get you back
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: Right, I mean in no matter.
Speaker 4: I mean people were talking about Notre Dame being undefeated
Speaker 4: and going into the playoffs, right, would they talk about
Speaker 4: not even making the playoff?
Speaker 2: Maybe they go eight and four and they have no shot.
Speaker 2: We'll see it. Just the swings.
Speaker 4: The NFL doesn't have those kinds of swings. They happened
Speaker 4: very rarely. It's like, you know, from one week to
Speaker 4: the next, what you've got.
Speaker 2: In covering college sports.
Speaker 3: You don't know about emotions, don't know about egos, you
Speaker 3: don't know about things like that, where all we just
Speaker 3: have to show up. I've seen it a thousand times.
Speaker 3: So I've covered all these TENNC double tournaments. Explain Santa Clara,
Speaker 3: Explain East Tennessee State, Explain all these reamiable hiles. Right,
Speaker 3: explain ninety seven exact basketball and explain ninety eight other Right,
Speaker 3: they're good enough to win it all again.
Speaker 4: And then then a crappy UNLV team goes and smacks
Speaker 4: them in the face. It's just so I'm not willing
Speaker 4: to give in and say this isn't you know that
Speaker 4: they can't that they can't beat uh, you know, Kansas State.
Speaker 13: So uh.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I just don't. I'm not buying that. I'm
Speaker 2: not buying it. So okay, all right, well let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and take our break. Yeah, well, top to the hour,
Speaker 2: right top of the hour, we're here.
Speaker 4: We're going to be back. You got breaking news, did
Speaker 4: be We've got to learn on the board, Henry, but
Speaker 4: hopefully there's a bunch of stuff. But we've got breaking news.
Speaker 4: And then we've got Adrian Danny will talk a little
Speaker 4: bit too, Sun road Runners. In the second hour, we
Speaker 4: bear it back