WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:16.160 You're watching brand new faces. I'm your host, Matt, and 2 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:19.079 I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Now this 3 00:00:19.120 --> 00:00:21.960 isn't the first time we've met her, so I want 4 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.600 to go over where we started, where we are now, 5 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:26.839 how we got there, and where we're going to go 6 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:31.000 in the future. Most importantly, always, always, always follow these 7 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:33.679 folks at the bare minimum on social media. It costs 8 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:36.560 you nothing. You can go over there. Follow on social 9 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.840 media on Twitter and Instagram, at webcam wifey. Now payday 10 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:43.039 rolls around, you have a little bit of cash, you 11 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:45.320 know you want to head over to the only fans. 12 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:48.200 You could also check that out at webcam wifey, and 13 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:53.520 on Chatterby and bangacams at Jenna ray Xo links to everything, 14 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:57.280 or in the episode description as always bare minimum follow 15 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.359 these folks, ladies and gentlemen. My guests tonight, Jenneray, Jenna, 16 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:02.039 how are you this evening? 17 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.840 And I'm wonderful again? How are you good? 18 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.840 Good? Good? I was looking at the date March eighteenth, 19 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.920 twenty twenty four, is the first time we recorded a 20 00:01:11.280 --> 00:01:11.959 two years ago. 21 00:01:12.000 --> 00:01:13.719 Already, that's crazy. 22 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:17.959 It's crazy. You look phenomenal still, you look phenomenal back then. 23 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:18.560 I don't. 24 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:19.959 I'm stopped drinking. 25 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.359 There you go, and maybe that's what it is. Well, 26 00:01:23.359 --> 00:01:25.879 that's what I want to talk about, just any kind 27 00:01:25.879 --> 00:01:28.439 of changes or what has gone on in the last 28 00:01:28.439 --> 00:01:32.000 two years. So let me ask first, let's establish where 29 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:38.239 you are now, Jenna. What is what do you What 30 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:41.200 is the role you consider your job to be? Like 31 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:43.400 if you were to put on a resume with all 32 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.359 that you do between only fans, between camming this and that, 33 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:48.959 if you were to call yourself one thing, what would 34 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:49.200 it be? 35 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:53.879 Actually I have chat GBT to think for this because 36 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:58.519 it was very helpful in my whole rebranding. But the 37 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:00.799 other day it was like, you know what, you're kind 38 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:05.640 of like a luxury campaigion. So I mean, long story short, 39 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:09.360 Obviously we've been here before. I was on of off 40 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.960 and on for like five years, and I was webcamming also, 41 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:16.520 but I was like, you know what everyone's doing of 42 00:02:16.560 --> 00:02:18.159 I'm going to try this. I'm gonna put my all 43 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:20.680 into this. And I was really trying to like run 44 00:02:20.719 --> 00:02:23.759 a lane that I shouldn't have been in. Although I 45 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:28.560 love creating content, I suck at marketing and I absolutely 46 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.400 do not like it. So this time around, I was like, let's, 47 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:35.400 you know, put all my mental horsepower into something I 48 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:39.280 really excel at, just camming live, live one on one interactions. 49 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:42.199 So yeah, I think that'll kind of sum it up 50 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.439 as like a luxury campaign, and I've sort of free 51 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:48.360 vamped my whole brand. Regardless of where I start, I 52 00:02:48.400 --> 00:02:53.199 always seem to attract a specific type of demographic and 53 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.360 I kind of wanted to really just bring that vibe 54 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:55.800 this time. 55 00:02:55.919 --> 00:02:57.680 So yeah, I would see that. 56 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:00.680 Very cool, very cool. It's just so many people from 57 00:03:00.719 --> 00:03:04.439 an outside perspective would be like, porn star, cam girl this, 58 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:07.000 and that that's only the job. What they don't factor 59 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:09.759 in is what you said before, all of the marketing, 60 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:13.800 the stupid social media that everything else you have to do, right. 61 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:18.319 Yeah, and it's hard, like obviously with of you know, 62 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:22.240 it's pretty much solely dependent on outside marketing and social 63 00:03:22.240 --> 00:03:27.719 media marketing, and it's like whereas camming it's all internalogorithm, Like, yes, 64 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.520 you can from out on social media, but it's typically 65 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:34.639 not your your bulk of your fan base, and so 66 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:37.360 that leaves me able to just really focus on in 67 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.879 the moment and not having all these other outside things 68 00:03:39.919 --> 00:03:42.759 to worry about. Plus I mean, I just I honestly 69 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.319 get lazy and I can't post on twenty bajillion Instagram 70 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:47.800 accounts every day. So I'm like, hey, if I'm on 71 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:49.439 cams at marketing, that's good for me. 72 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.840 Let's go sure you're actively working, you're marketing, you're doing 73 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.560 everything all at once. It almost feels like you said 74 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:58.599 you attract a certain kind of guy to you What 75 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.719 kind of guy is that you attract or person I 76 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:02.479 should say so? 77 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.199 And there's kind of two demographics. And it's funny because 78 00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:09.919 no matter like what role or image I try and portray, 79 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.080 it always ends up back to this. So I was like, 80 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.319 let's just roll with what I know kind of slid 81 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.680 into two age groups. Anyone really under thirty five as 82 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:22.600 my viewers. I noticed that they really lean towards wanting 83 00:04:22.639 --> 00:04:26.040 like the mommy dom figure. They want to be submissive, 84 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:30.519 they want to be you know, I'm just good boy. Uh. 85 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:33.720 And then the older demographic like forty to sixty is 86 00:04:33.720 --> 00:04:37.959 your typical like provider, male professional. They want the companionship, 87 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.120 the connection. I mean, it sounds cliche, but like off 88 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:43.560 the top of my head, I know, like a couple 89 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.439 of my biggest vendors, I don't think they've ever asked 90 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:49.160 for anything super explicit, Like they come back and back 91 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:52.120 again because I'm like this fantasy for them or escape 92 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:55.240 for whatever their real life is. So people are just 93 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:58.560 kind of weed themselves onto those two specific demographics. 94 00:04:58.600 --> 00:05:02.120 For me, how do you Okay, that's that's super interesting. 95 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:04.480 So you have broken down your demos and you understand it, 96 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.600 But it almost feels like those two are not in 97 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:12.000 direct contrast, like not verse playing light. You know they 98 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:14.399 are different, though they are forced different. So how do 99 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:18.040 you like as you're just logging onto your room, are 100 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.240 you looking at your list and seeing are there any 101 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.759 names who go this specific way? Or do you start 102 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.800 standard and see kind of how the room flows with it? 103 00:05:26.720 --> 00:05:29.560 Yeah? I mean I know obviously my regulars what they like. 104 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.160 I don't really niche down into anything too crazy like 105 00:05:33.199 --> 00:05:35.720 in my public chat because obviously if I'm sitting there 106 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.959 being like, oh, you're such a good boy, that's going 107 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.240 to turn off my other demographics. 108 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:42.480 So I really turn not to role play too hard. 109 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.480 In public chat obviously if they want something specific thing 110 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.360 and take me to a private show. But I feel 111 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.279 like my vibe kind of a tracks flow that kind 112 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:55.319 of have this like soft feminine, like soultry vibe, so 113 00:05:55.480 --> 00:06:01.040 it doesn't it appeals to several demographics without being too niche, 114 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.720 and then of course they control down and get specifically 115 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:07.000 what they want sure in more private setting. 116 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:11.079 Oh okay, all right, all right, has it been since 117 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.560 you went into this full time? Has it been as 118 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:17.040 Obviously nothing's as successful as we would all like, you know, 119 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:18.639 I want to put out a podcast to make a 120 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.879 trillion dollars tomorrow, But just in terms of building an 121 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.160 audience revenue. Two if you not that I am asking 122 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:28.439 for numbers, Just is it is this working for you 123 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:31.240 versus some of the stuff you've tried in the past. 124 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:35.639 Maybe, yeah, definitely, you know, trying to force o F 125 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.399 because I was like, oh, this is a way easier 126 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:41.480 to make way to make money. The burnout was crazy, 127 00:06:42.160 --> 00:06:44.959 although obviously I just gone back into things a few 128 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:48.839 months ago, so it's still rampying. But the level of 129 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:54.480 like return on investment and effort is significantly higher with 130 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.600 camming for me personally, because that's what I excel at. 131 00:06:58.360 --> 00:06:59.879 But it goes the other way too, Like I know 132 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.160 kind of super successful of models who are like I 133 00:07:03.160 --> 00:07:06.120 would never do camming, like they're so completely different. Just 134 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.839 because you're successful on one doesn't mean you're going to 135 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.879 be successful on the other. You know, if I was 136 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.680 still pounding out for the next five years by myself, 137 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:18.600 I probably wouldn't get nearly as far as I will 138 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.759 with putting the consistency in camming. So it's really just 139 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:25.120 figuring out what you excel at because they're so different 140 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.680 as far as like fan base, how to succeed, how 141 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:33.240 to grow, and it really takes kind of two different people, 142 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.279 so you have to figure out what works best for you. 143 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:39.920 It seems like the of grind, it goes one of two, 144 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:43.560 one of three ways. Maybe you can just grind and 145 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.560 grind and grind for years and really be dedicated and 146 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.439 never get discouraged at posting on Twitter and getting four 147 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:53.600 likes and you're like, I just showed my entire body 148 00:07:53.639 --> 00:07:56.319 what is that? And then eventually it comes. But it's 149 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:59.360 almost like a comic working like open mics early on, 150 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:03.199 like you're just hopeing something, well that's one way, another 151 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.079 way is going viral. If that's a total crap shoot, 152 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:07.879 we have no idea if that's going to happen or not. 153 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.879 You could have one picture of yours blow up to 154 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.759 ten million views or yeah, nothing. And the third way 155 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.279 would be kind of the hybrid of mainstream stuff shooting 156 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.519 certain mainstream scenes. Your name is up there, you know. 157 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:26.519 So when it came to the only fans stuff, did 158 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:29.480 you ever get any offers from any like mainstream sites 159 00:08:29.600 --> 00:08:31.199 or anyone ever reach out to you and go, hey, 160 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.320 would you shoot for us? And then either you had 161 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.399 to decline or you had to think about it. Was 162 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:36.919 there ever any kind of offer like that? 163 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:40.639 Ah, yeah, I've gotten a few in the past. That's 164 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:43.200 just from the beginning. Ever, earlier about I wanted to 165 00:08:43.240 --> 00:08:48.080 take I wanted to do content for me, and for 166 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:51.559 me it was like, Okay, I might make X amount 167 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:53.960 of dollars on this shoe, but then it's like, it's 168 00:08:54.000 --> 00:08:57.360 not my content really if there's so many other loopholes, 169 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:00.519 and I wanted the content to be more mind and 170 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:06.159 I love the creative direction of it. From a marketing standpoint, 171 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:10.720 in my head, it also didn't make sense. And I know, 172 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:13.360 like the trend nowadays is all like breach bait and 173 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:17.480 shock factor, but that's completely not me. So it's just 174 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:20.879 something I've never really considered. I've had a lot of 175 00:09:20.919 --> 00:09:22.360 friends that I have gone that route and have done 176 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.399 really well, but it's just not desire for me. 177 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.320 Okay, and that to me and correct me if I'm wrong. 178 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.600 That sounds like in a positive way, like a total 179 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:33.919 control type of thing, like you want to make sure 180 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.159 everything comes out the way you think it should come 181 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:38.720 out at the end, right, you don't want to be 182 00:09:38.720 --> 00:09:39.720 represented exactly. 183 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:43.399 Control is kind of harsh word, but yeah, you have 184 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:47.720 less like hold over your content. Obviously we're shooting for 185 00:09:47.759 --> 00:09:52.240 a studio. That's that's studios content, you know. I just 186 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.960 like having you own creative direction of my own content 187 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:57.039 and kind of keeping it mine. 188 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.679 I guess sure, And I should clarify. I don't mean 189 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:02.399 control like you can't put that. I mean more like 190 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:04.840 I'd like this shot, I want to look this way, 191 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.279 I want to come off this Yeah, that totally makes 192 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.240 total sense. So let's talk about the camming again for 193 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.320 anyone listening now, if you don't hear at the beginning 194 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:18.120 Jenna ray XO, that's on Chatterbag and Bonga cams. What 195 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:21.440 is your is which one of those or any of 196 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.960 the other ones. What's you've been your most successful like 197 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:29.279 growing ground for this new start, Like what's been moving 198 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:30.200 the quickness for you. 199 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.720 It's it's hard to say. I mean I stream on 200 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:37.200 multiple sites, and starting out, I had one site. Thought 201 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:38.960 I was like, Okay, this is going to be my site, 202 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:42.320 and then randomly now it's changed over to a completely 203 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:44.919 different side, which is part of the reason I multi stream, 204 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:48.759 because you never know. I wouldn't say it's been one 205 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:53.679 specific site just uh. And of course it sounds cliche, 206 00:10:53.720 --> 00:10:57.039 but consistency, I mean was I was like, Okay, if 207 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.759 I stream every day for two hours a day, it'll 208 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.159 be good because I'm on every day. But now I've 209 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:04.720 gone to like taking a couple of days off, but 210 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:08.120 streaming in longer chunks of time, and that's been a 211 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:12.799 big game changer. But really, yeah, just putting the hours in, 212 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:15.840 I mean, you really have to treat it like a 213 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:17.720 full time job and not like you have to work 214 00:11:17.759 --> 00:11:20.320 forty hours a week. But you know, you know, you 215 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:22.440 work for yourself. But if you say you have a schedule, 216 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.600 you got to stick to the schedule. 217 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:25.720 Uh. 218 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.759 And then the other thing that's really grown is kind 219 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:34.440 of becoming a little more unreachable. Back in my super 220 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.759 early CAMMI days, they used to do all the explicit stuff. 221 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:39.679 Just in the public chat. I was like, you know, 222 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:41.840 this is going to get ive on me. It's going 223 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:45.200 to get traffic. And while I got traffic, it wasn't 224 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.200 really the right kind of traffic. And I was sort 225 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.559 of training my room to behave the wrong way. So 226 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:55.679 when I revamped everything, I was like, Nope, I'm going 227 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.600 to be like cause you know Track, you said you're 228 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:03.759 a luxury companion, be that like unreachable. You know, people 229 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:05.639 are there. It's like a strip clib Just because someone 230 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:07.399 throws a bunch of ones on our stage, you don't 231 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:10.799 have to go, you know, give them head. So kind 232 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.000 of thinking more in that mindset of like, hey, these 233 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:17.360 people are here from my presence, anything else that's extra sure? 234 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.120 Sure? Yeah. I always see like when they introduce a 235 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:22.519 new girl and they promote them for a while, you'll 236 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.480 see like eight thousand, ten thousand people in that chat. 237 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.679 No one's ever tipping. It seems like it just and. 238 00:12:29.600 --> 00:12:32.120 There are lots of times praying on the fact that 239 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.840 they're a new model, sure, and that I'll potentially get 240 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:36.720 away with more. 241 00:12:36.759 --> 00:12:38.600 Sure And what is that like they think they could 242 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:40.480 talk them into doing something right? 243 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.240 Yeah, they're like, oh, they're new on this platform. They 244 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.000 don't know how it works. It was really funny when 245 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:48.879 I came back a couple months ago because I had 246 00:12:48.960 --> 00:12:52.480 my new model tag, but I obviously wasn't nail, so 247 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.159 I got all the scammers back. You'll get people in 248 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:57.480 a room that are like, oh, this is how you 249 00:12:57.519 --> 00:13:00.600 should run a room, this is how the platform works. Like, 250 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:02.919 trust me, if you do this, like this will happen 251 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.759 things like that, and they just pray on the fact that, 252 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.840 you know, because some of these girls aren't even brand 253 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.559 new to the industry, brand new camics, so they're like, okay, 254 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:14.240 like and they have no idea what their boundaries are. 255 00:13:14.399 --> 00:13:17.399 What's you know, right and wrong? So yeah, a lot 256 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.919 of guys literally will serve the campsites and click on 257 00:13:19.960 --> 00:13:23.000 the new tag just to go pray on models. 258 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.639 Yeah, and then they've already kind of set a precedent 259 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:27.559 on what your show should be. And if you do 260 00:13:27.639 --> 00:13:29.960 get a little bit of success, you just go, oh, 261 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:31.799 I'm just gonna run with this for it. And I 262 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:34.600 think you're right. I think women need to kind of 263 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.200 get themselves in a mindset of like I am the 264 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.120 not in a negative way, I am the product here. 265 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:43.000 I will I will sell what I am selling for 266 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:44.960 the price I am selling it, and I will only 267 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:47.120 go as far as I'm willing to go, you know. 268 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.240 And I don't think new girls quite know that yet, 269 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:53.200 and it's good to educate them on that, I think. 270 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:58.919 Uh okay, So do you have like a number one 271 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:01.200 tipper right now? Or is it people who are like 272 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.120 kind of competing. I know you mentioned too you had 273 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.759 two guys before who were like, you know, reaching out 274 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:11.080 to you and not necessarily even like asking anything that 275 00:14:11.279 --> 00:14:13.679 much of you. Do you have like a go to 276 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.440 right now that you're like if you were like, man, 277 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.080 I need an extra hundred bucks, Let me hop on 278 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.159 Bonka cams real quick and see if John is on 279 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:22.799 or whoever. 280 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.440 I mean kind of like I know on my head, 281 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.720 like if I see this person on, then it's probably 282 00:14:28.799 --> 00:14:31.159 going to be a good night. But I've also learned 283 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.080 not to have any expectations. And I would also say 284 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.639 this as a tip to girls who are camming, do 285 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:39.960 not rely on anyone ever. Aroun't care how nice they 286 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:42.360 been and how much money they spent. They can drop 287 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.679 you any second. I mean, they're jumping girl to girl 288 00:14:45.679 --> 00:14:48.279 a girl, it doesn't matter, like I had a girl 289 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.679 a couple of months ago freaking out of our Christmas 290 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.639 because she was relying on this one wakler and she 291 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:55.039 was like, Okay, I'll go on tomorrow night and I'll 292 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:57.840 make enough, you know, for Christmas shopping. And he didn't 293 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.879 show up. And it's like, well, honestly, what do you expect, 294 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:03.240 Like these men don't know you anything, just like you 295 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.919 don't owe them anything, and you could have a regular 296 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:09.440 for a month or years and they could just off 297 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:10.120 the face the earth. 298 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:11.879 So yeah, I have. 299 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:14.159 People where if I see their online, I'm probably gonna 300 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:17.799 do well, but I'm not relying on like oh I've 301 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.360 had a shitty week, like let me just go online 302 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.159 and he's gonna, you know, make it out for me. 303 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:27.000 You can't have that mentality or rely on anybody because 304 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:29.600 they could just I mean, I've had regulars pop back 305 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:33.320 up after years, but they could just go mia with 306 00:15:33.320 --> 00:15:35.200 with no warnings. So you can't. 307 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:37.759 You can't have that mentality of like I'm gonna I 308 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.120 know this guy's gonna take care of me. 309 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.960 Sure, performers and whoever else on cam need to know, 310 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:47.639 like there's no commitment necessarily on your end to provide 311 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:49.879 things you don't want to provide. But there's also no 312 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.879 commitment coming the other way, So either keep someone entertained, 313 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:56.639 but never really rely on it because like you said, 314 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:58.440 could just go away, right, I. 315 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.600 Mean, I'm still working, Like I may year at dollars 316 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.039 the night before. I'm not gonna Oh, I had my 317 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:04.639 regular last night, so I could take the rest of 318 00:16:04.639 --> 00:16:08.279 the week off. Like you can't have them mentalities, you know, 319 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:09.879 keep going like you didn't make a penny. 320 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.720 Sure, that's it's a grind. You got to work to 321 00:16:13.039 --> 00:16:16.480 get to the point where you don't need it anymore necessarily. Right, 322 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.720 So when you do private shows, have you gotten any 323 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.480 requests that you've had to decline where you say like no, 324 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:28.519 no out on time. I don't do that. 325 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:33.039 I mean, as far as my personal boundaries, I'm pretty open, 326 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:36.279 Like there's not a whole lot I haven't gotten asked 327 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.399 to do. But my obvious boundaries are like things that 328 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:45.120 are legitimately illegal or against terms of service of the site. 329 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.039 I mean, and I get it a blurred line all 330 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.360 the time because guys are like, we want the mommie 331 00:16:50.440 --> 00:16:52.799 on kind of thing, or you know, the mommy roleplay whatever, 332 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:55.879 And so I'm like, oh yeah, sure, stepmommy, because you 333 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:59.919 have to be like very specific about that, which I'm 334 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:01.559 happy to do the step mom role. I play that 335 00:17:01.679 --> 00:17:03.879 very well. But then of course they get the guys 336 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.119 who get me into the private show and then conveniently 337 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:09.759 I forget to add the words step before their uh 338 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.839 role play. So that kind of stuff have to shut down, 339 00:17:13.599 --> 00:17:17.680 you know, the obvious, gross and illegal things quite frequently, 340 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.599 which is odd. But then again, I've noticed cam sites 341 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.160 don't really care about what the users are doing. They 342 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.400 only care about what the models are doing. I've reported 343 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:31.000 so many people for ancest eaciality and they don't give fuck. 344 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.400 But you know, I mentioned my of one time on 345 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.400 cams and I'm suspendous. So it's a it's a fine line. 346 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.279 That's crazy that they do that in terms of you 347 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.319 mentioning that, but in a sense it's almost a little 348 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:45.720 it's a little good because wasn't there a thing going 349 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.119 on with only fans a few years ago where people 350 00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.640 would be like, like a girl would receive a message 351 00:17:51.680 --> 00:17:54.319 someone asking like do us score, and then she would 352 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.240 get in trouble for that. I think that, I mean, 353 00:17:57.519 --> 00:17:59.839 that shouldn't happen either now. Obviously you shouldn't get in 354 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:03.039 before mentioning any of your other stuff. But if some 355 00:18:03.079 --> 00:18:05.559 guys creeping on you, that seems like a great way 356 00:18:05.599 --> 00:18:09.640 of like gang piling on top of someone if they're 357 00:18:09.920 --> 00:18:14.119 you know, speaking out or doing whatever. Are there any okay, 358 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.400 so you don't mind doing the stepmommy stuff. Are there 359 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:20.960 any trends or anything else that are within the realm 360 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:24.319 of normal, not gross, not illegal, anything like that where 361 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:28.519 you do find it kind of objectionable, like a I'm 362 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:30.880 not digging that, or do you understand like it's all 363 00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:32.079 fantasy freaking. 364 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:34.759 I don't know if I'm a fit in this category. 365 00:18:34.880 --> 00:18:38.200 But when I got back on TikTok, I was like, 366 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:42.799 what the hell is up with this like barely legal trend? Like, okay, 367 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:44.920 it's one thing if you're like, hey, I'm twenty years old, 368 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:48.160 that's just a fact. But all these like twenty something 369 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:53.559 year old influencers and oh if girls that specifically pretend 370 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.039 to be you know, barely legal eighteen and they know 371 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:01.359 exactly what they're doing and it's disgusting although it's obviously 372 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:05.519 not legal, And once you're eighteen or an adult, they 373 00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:10.559 know who they're portraying to in the demographic they're going for. 374 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:14.920 And so that's very gross to me, although perfectly legal. 375 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:18.119 It's like you're twenty four, but you're pretending to be eighteen. 376 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:20.559 Hy you know, I. 377 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:22.960 Totally get that. Yeah, well, let me all right, let 378 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:25.200 me ask you. I normally end the interview with this one, 379 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.000 but this is an interesting one because you brought it 380 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:31.920 up here. This is just your opinion. I don't want 381 00:19:31.960 --> 00:19:35.720 it to be like you're, you know, saying no hard lines, 382 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:38.799 blah blah blah. But I ask all adult performers this, 383 00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.200 and I'm shocked by some of the numbers that get 384 00:19:41.240 --> 00:19:46.400 thrown out. What should be the age when women can 385 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:49.559 get into the adult entertainment industry? Do you think that 386 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:54.359 should be raised at all? Do you think eighteen is good? 387 00:19:54.720 --> 00:19:56.920 Or where do you sit with that? And then I 388 00:19:56.960 --> 00:19:58.640 want to go through with you some of the general 389 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:01.839 consensus that I hear from a lot of the performers. 390 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.599 I mean, I think it should be a twenty one. 391 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:06.920 I think people are taking it a little bit too 392 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:10.680 far and taking advantage of like, Okay, I'm a teen, 393 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:14.880 I'm an adult. Well yes, legally, but I mean there's 394 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.160 all sorts of issues. I mean, I still see eighteen 395 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:21.079 as a teen or a kid, even though you're legally 396 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:25.880 an adult. Plus you think about all these girls getting 397 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.480 in right when they're eighteen, and it's like, how much 398 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:33.039 of your content was actually taken after you eighteen to 399 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:35.960 just kind of have some sort of cushion between legally 400 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:41.039 an adult and getting into such honestly dangerous and like 401 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:46.480