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pronounce it better now, but you know I just fail.
Speaker 2: You always did? You always get it right?
Speaker 1: Well, well, shame on me.
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How are you any? And Ryan, welcome to Pony Express.
It's been a while since we had you on here,
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really want to sink your teeth into. But we're glad
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change the old phrase and the old adage that we've
been hearing since twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when Trump came
down that escalator of America. First, well, it's become more
apparent now more than ever that that phrase needs to
be changed to Americans first. One would think that one
would simply follow the other, but when we go through
the stories tonight, oh boy, you'd be mistaken. So Americans
first will be the discussion throughout the entire night's show.
And why don't we just start right at the top
with these clips that are going around with Trump doing
a Fox News interview with none other than Laura Ingram,
who before this I really didn't have like, very strong
opinions about her. I didn't really, you know, think much
of her. She's just another like Bux and Blunt they
have up at Fox News, you know, with a nice
cross position right between her cleavage, like all the rest
of them. But I gotta tell you if she did
a pretty good job on this one. I gotta tell
you holding Donald Trump's feet to the fire on a
couple of issues. Let's listen in on this first one.
Speaker 4: Are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of thousands
of foreign students in the United States. We have about
three hundred and fifty th Chinese. At one point during
COVID you were going to, you know that we'll push
to get them out, but that was pulled back. You've
said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students could
come to the United States. Why, sir, is that a
pro maga position when so many American kids want to
go to school and there are places not for them,
and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
Speaker 5: Sure, never said about China, but we do have a
lot of people coming in from China. We always have
China and other countries. We also have a massive system
of colleges and universities. And if we were to cut
that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you
would have half the colleges in the United States go
out of business.
Speaker 6: Well, I think that's a big deal. You would have
the the United States.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you would have as you know, historically, black
colleges and universities would all be out of business. That
you would have a system of colleges and universities.
Speaker 6: Would on China to keep.
Speaker 5: But I think it's good to have. I actually think
it's good to have outside countries.
Speaker 6: Look, I want to be able to get along with
the war, not the French. They're the Chinese.
Speaker 4: They spy on us, they steal our intellectual problems.
Speaker 6: Where do you think the French are better?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Really, I'll tell you I'm not so sure.
Speaker 5: We've had a lot of problems with the French where
we get taxed very unfairly on our technology, where you know,
they put twenty five percent taxes on American products. Look,
assuming everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am.
But we take in trillions of dollars from students. You know,
the students pay more than double when they come in
from most foreign countries. I want to see our school
system thrive, but at the same time, I want to
be I know you and I disagree.
Speaker 6: We're never going to agree on it. But that's okay.
Speaker 5: And it's not that I want them, but I view
it as a business. We have millions and millions of people. Also,
I want to get along with countries if possible. You know,
people are shocked. Remember Hillary Clint said we'll be in
a war. I stopped eight wars in the last nine months.
I don't want to be in worse. If I am
in a war, we're going to win the thing fast
and it'll be violent.
Speaker 6: But you know what, I don't want to be in worse.
Speaker 5: But one thing, you don't want to cut half of
the people, half of the students from all over the
world that are coming into our country destroy our entire
university and college system.
Speaker 6: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 5: And don't forget Maga was my idea. Mago was nobody
else's idea. I know what Maga wants better than anybody else,
and Mago wants to see our country thrive.
Speaker 1: Well, So we let that clip play very long, because man,
oh man, did Trump just stick not one, but both
feet in his mouth repeatedly in that entire clip. Just
when you thought like, oh good, quit by Laura Ingram
coming back and holding him too the fire a bit
and then there you go. Trump is just setting stuff
on fire once again. I kind of love how she
just agreed and amplified every single time, which is what
I would have done if I was in this interview.
She's like, I don't care, you know, let the universities
burn like the French. You're breton of the Chinese. Yeah,
of course. I mean, we talked about this so much,
with Trump being an a parent and obvious boomer still
and still being caught up in all the left wing
frames and the moral ground that we've been rallying against
on this show since the very beginning, and many other
people like us happened as well. But this is lied about, like, oh,
historically black colleges are going to go out of business,
or you know. I think one of the things I
really hate the most about this world that we're living in,
and like, obviously conservative ink is completely trapped in this
that we need to have this multi ethnic coalition. You
know this everyone is an American, Every group of people
is like this. You even heard Trump say this about, oh,
you think the Chinese are better than the French, which
is just so obviously false on so many levels. It's
hard to even pick a specific spot. But let us
not forget. I mean, the French are America's oldest ally, Okay,
they've been allies with us and it's the Revolutionary War, Okay.
Why is it that we are just going to throw
away other like European and Western and other white countries'
allies and throw it to the side for some other
like multi racial, multi ethic coalition. Here, it's like, who
fucking cares about the Chinese? The French have been our
allies for two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2: It's a business. You heard him say it there. He
looks at the country as like a business. That's not
how we look at it. You know, he every once
in a while will pay lip service to the fact that, oh,
America is for Americans. But when you look at it
as a business, when you have this globe, if you
want to have a globalized economy, people are just another commodity.
This is this is what I've been trying to say
ever since I stepped out of the libertarian milieu. It's globalism, man.
The free market is globalism. And that what is your
If you own a business, most businesses, what is your
biggest what's your biggest expense? Labor? You have the cheapest
labor from where you can get it anywhere. And that
is how most anybody who's coming from the conservative movement
or who's been who's bought into this neoliberal framing, it's
all business man. You know. That's how China is more
important than France right now because without China, well, I mean,
can we even make weapons without China. I mean he's
not he's being hyperbolic about the French, but he's not
lying about China. I mean, we're not a sovereign nation
because we can't even make our own weapons. We can't
have our own defense industry has to come from somewhere else.
At this point, parts have to come from somewhere else.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's bad enough. It's bad enough to talk
about the actual raw materials to create our own products,
our own weapons, but you take it one step further
in this where they're making implication about why we have
to have these six hundred Chinese students over here, is that, oh, well,
Americans just aren't capable of developing these kinds of technology anymore.
We have to import all of these people. So it's like,
not only do we not have the raw materials, but
we don't even have the intellectual capital to build anything.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: And this is really a fascinating admission because you know,
the other side goes along with us every time it's advocated.
If you look at the reason why the United States
has a university system, especially the public universities and the
land grants, the whole idea was this was that Americans
can be educated to a point where they can be productive,
and that this investment in education would pay itself off,
strengthen the country, provide a more framework, and whatever else. Well,
we've clearly lost the last one. No one expects the
universities to provide a clear and good moral framework. That's
a very antiquated notion. But we're also apparently dispensing with
this very sixties liberal idea as well, that you can
just create an educated and productive population like that's that's
what's being comitted here sort of on the meta level,
which which I find fascinating. It's unquestionable because of course,
and it's it's applied wrongly for reasons that are about
to become clear. If you don't think that you can
just educate a population into productivity and brilliance, what's the alternative,
Like they're they're just fixed and why are they fixed?
So it's a very strange admission to where we've moved
past this weird sixties paradigm that we have for the longest.
But uh yeah, this this very idiotic idea of viewing
this as a as an enterpriser of a business as
ampletely destroying the country. And it's not good for anyone either. So,
not just from Trump's perspective, is this bad because this
base is going to be revolting against him over it,
which it currently is. I've not seen any lower support
for Trump basically since he was elected in previously as well.
But it's bad for the university systems. The university systems
continue to admit more and more students and they can't
handle it. Long since been a place where it was
just accepted you're not going to get an education, this
is just a requirement. It's also not good for actually
doing the purpose of the universities. We plainly said now
that the universities are not meant to elevate Americans. They're
supposed to just provide a degree for Chinese people. I
guess the whole thing is a cluster.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, it's really sad when Curtis jarvin Is understands
the university system more than Donald Trump does, where he's like,
we need tanks on Harvard Yard and Donald Trump' said, oh,
we got to save it, you know, and they come
in here and they paid double. And I mean, I've
talked about this before. When I lived in Auburn, like
literally my whole street was Chinese. All of my neighbors
were Chinese. They were all students at the university, the
Baptist church I went to down there. When they wanted
to go to a different when they wanted to move
locations they sold the church to their Chinese Bible Study
that was meeting there, and I said, no, you're not
selling it to the Chinese Bible Study. You're China congratulations.
No one gets this, no, I mean even this fucker.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that hurts me the most in
this entire clip is the one that was right at
the end when Trump said Megan didn't exist before me.
I know what, Megan was lots more than anybody. And
it's like, well, we just have the admission right now
from Donald Trump what he thinks MAGA is in open
contradiction to what he was saying in twenty sixteen when
he was talking about getting rid of the whole H
one B system even to begin with. People could go
find his tweets about this. But to him, it's just
like I want to see America thrive, and MAGA means
see Americans thrive, which is literally just GDP. That's it now,
American's thriving. It's just America the place, you know, and
a very sad thing, well sad irony kind of is
you know, like the the actually kan Ink Boomers actually
kind of one percent correct when they say, like Trump
doesn't have a racist bone in his body. I genuinely
believe that. And it kind of sucks because even if
you just add just a little bit, a little bit
of in group reference to so many of these issues,
we just wouldn't be tackling with no. Or maybe he's
just a completely like a I don't know, it's a
condition like a Pavlov's dog. Quite just like the media
attacks of all the years, just calling him like, you know,
hitler and racist man. One oh why he's like, I
just gotta make sure I'm so not racist. It's unbelievable.
I got to defend the historically black colleges. You know
that that that extreme you know, home battleground for avid
Trump supporters is those historically bad black colleges.
Speaker 3: Once upon a time, the American right wing president understood
and knew that the professors were the enemy. And not
only did he understand that, but he would tell it
to people around them around him. I'm trying to Trump
obviously knew Nixon was. He probably remembers most of that.
I'm I would be dumbfounded if the people around him
aren't telling him that the university system is almost universally
aligned against him, Like does it is? It really just
that he has such a strong will to see the
like college profits go up. This is a this is
almost unthinkable that he would come out and say this.
I don't understand what happened.
Speaker 1: I think the number one issue that Trump has on
the domestic front that he sees is just the national
debt stuff. And the economy is like, well, the only
way you can fix this is by generating money. This
is where like the gold card of you know, visa
immigration stuff came from. Or he was just selling US
citizenship for ten million bucks. You know, people are like, oh,
if you want to fork up some money, you can
become a United States citizen. You know, the same people
like the tariff stuff. If you know, wants to reshore,
make some money here. Same thing with the colleges, like
oh we can make some money here, We'll do that,
you know, offshore drilling. You know, same thing there too.
It's just very consistent. It's like we, yeah, we do
need well, here's the thing from our producer are in
a second, it's like, yeah, obviously the United States needs
to make money, and obviously we have to deal with
our debt problem. And the economy isn't the shitter and
people need good jobs stuff like this. But it's like
we can be selective here on what we're doing. So yeah,
she's just not gonna help anyway.
Speaker 3: Here's a quote from But what Richard Nixon, or are
the press to pretend that the universities are like good
economically either? Like it's like that you just gave a
very excellent explanation for most of Trump's other actions. But
like like if it just from all perspectives that could
ever be around Trump except for just like a like
an actual subversive like working for another side, Like it
seems like you would want the university system to be purged,
to go out of business, you'd have to stop paying
for it, sit on the state level, like this is
a it's a dumb founding that he would that he
would take this position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're on agreement there. From Richard Nixon
on December fourteenth, nineteen seventy two. The press is the enemy.
The press is the enemy. The press is the enemy.
The establishment is the enemy. The professors are the enemy.
Professors are the enemy. Write that on the blackboard one
hundred times, and never forget it. Man, No true words
were ever spoken. And they and they coued him for
it so well, the clips of the Laura Ingram interview
don't stop there, ladies and gentlemen, We've got another one. Uh,
let's listen in Republicans have to talk about it.
Speaker 4: And does that mean the H one B visa thing
will not be a big priority for your administration because
if you want to raise wages for American workers, you
can't flood the country with with tens of thousands or hundreds.
Speaker 5: Of Also, do have to bring in talent when we
got your talent.
Speaker 6: And you know you don't.
Speaker 4: We don't have talented people.
Speaker 5: No, you don't have you don't have certain talents, and
you have to people have to learn. You can't take
people off an unimploiment like an unemployment line and say
I'm going to put you into a factory we're going
to make missiles, or I'm going.
Speaker 2: To put do we ever do it before?
Speaker 6: Well, I'll give you an example. In Georgia.
Speaker 5: They raided because they wanted illegal immigrants. They had people
from South Korea that need batteries all their lives. You know,
making batteries are very complicated. It's not an easy thing
and very dangerous. A lot of explosions, a lot of problems.
They had like five or six hundred people early stages
to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.
Speaker 6: Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.
You're going to need that lure. I mean, I know
you and I disagree on this.
Speaker 5: You can't just say a country's coming in, going to
invest ten billion dollars to build a plant and going
to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked
in five years, and they're going to start making their missiles.
Speaker 6: It doesn't work that way. I recommend you stop being.
Speaker 2: Such a fag.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: I was talking about this before we went live, but
I just love how the bottom left hand corner the
Fox News logo has been changed to the military Camo
because of his Veterans Day when they were covering this
and just the subject of what they're talking about in
this clip, right, it's like, oh, well, you know, everyone
could just be you know, it's Veterans Day, right, you know,
we're here to celebrate an American holiday, but we're talking
about in the clip where well, anyone could just become
an American if you have a fake degree from some
you know, Chinese sweatshop or some Indian you know degree farm.
Now doesn't matter, you guys can come on over here.
I'm sure that there is some extreme Indian genius underneath
the mountains of shit and the piles of trash so
high they have to put air traffic control beacons on
top of them so planes don't drive into them. I
am sure there is some Star Trek replicator level technology
that's hidden under all that trash, and it can only
be found if we just import all the Indians over here. God,
this is so frustrating.
Speaker 2: I go something a guy, Ryan, I was.
Speaker 3: Just gonna say, imagine if there was like a a
system or a means to teach Americans how to do
these complex things. I don't know what that would be called,
but like that that'd be cool. But then again, maybe
we should just like throw a bunch of Chinese students
at it instead.
Speaker 2: This is something that you know, not me, not you,
talks about all the time. Just the white man can
basically learn anything in a month, as long as it's
not like insanely outrageously advanced, you know, throw them in,
he'll he'll figure out how to do it. And Trump
is I mean, I assume he's just surrounded by jeets
who are telling him, no, we got to bring these
people in, and you know, or or China, you know,
bringing the Chinese spies that have surrounded so many of
our politicians. And oh no, these people they come right in.
You plug them right in. First of all, we know
you don't plug jeets in because there's diploma mills over there,
and these they don't know how to do check shit.
They basically you know, look up online or go into
chats to try to figure out. I mean that's like
basically how they quote unquote code you know, how to
throw shit? Well, yeah, and you know, so you bring
some Chinese people. I mean, somebody's just convinced him that,
you know, oh you know, white Americans can't do this shit.
So if he's not sticking up for us, we'll get
well who what.
Speaker 1: Love the pushcrat back that Ingram had on this one too,
And it's just yeah, very simple argument that anyone. It's
so easy, even a cave ban could make this argument.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like, well then how did we do it when
we were kids?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: It's like these two people right here are in their
late sixties seventies in this case with Donald Trump, and yeah,
you guys grew up in an age where America was
putting people on the moon, you know, for the first
time ever, and it was all done with Americans and
the help of some Germans. Oh, let's see, I don't
think we need to import a bunch of Chinese and
Indians to do that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The other thing that's just so chef's kiss about. This
is literally what we're having this conversation this week about
importing all the Indians and all the Chinese. Did you
guys see how one of the largest bridges in China
just collapsed this week? This thing is like saw, yeah,
this thing is just giants. It's like stretching between two
valleys like the Golden Gate Bridge level size, and the
thing just collapses. It's like, oh really.
Speaker 3: And not just that, like I saw like three other
videos allegedly collapsing from China this week, which isn't surprising whatsoever.
Something that I would like to get your guys' thoughts on,
because I this this clip in particular, vexed me ever
since I came across it. Whenever the controversy was happening,
it was infuriating and I can't help, but connect it
back to Trump throwing his full weight behind Vivek and
Ohio as Vivek gets out playing by the Democratic can
that on the subject of immigration at least rhetoric?
Speaker 1: Oh that was so amazing. I mean it really just
shroes to show you, number one, how just absolutely cold
and cutthroat and calculating the left is at every turn
they just have no principles whatsoever. They do not care.
There'll be for immigration one moment, but when they want
to flank viv back on something that they obviously know
that the Republican base is divided on, they're going to
flank him from the right and say, how dare you
speak so poorly about Americans? They literally went back to
the great Christmas h one b. De Pate last year tweet,
the tweet that's almost a year old. Now the candidate
went and found it. Oh my god, I hope I
really really hope that she wins. I really hope that
she wins that election.
Speaker 3: Like, is this just like Trump or people around Trump
causing him to purge, purge his movement of anyone that
isn't in the VEC camp regarding immigration, Like, is that
what's happening? It's hard to tell from the outside, but
I'm just one person. If you guys have thoughts, I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think because Donald Trump kind of just
passes out endorsements like candy to literally everybody. I mean,
how many times has he endorsed people like Lindsay Graham
or even worse politicians who have thrown Trump under their
boss multiple times, But he just throws it out there.
To tell you the truth, I don't really think Trump
even thinks about Vivec that much or many of these races,
to be honest. I think he just throws it out
there and says, Oh, this guy's really great, and hopes
that it would just win or it would help the
polls in that certain state. So I don't know if
he's going to think that much about it. What I
will say in general, though, is we were actually talking
about this on mister D's Twitter space the other night.
In the two months since Charlie Kirk's assassination, it has
just become so obvious at this point that it was
a huge blunder on all the Republicans part, Donald Trump included, everybody.
They dropped that thing like a lead balloon, did absolutely
nothing as one of their top supporters and political activists
was just shot in the face in front of his
wife and two kids. And it shows something even deeper
that somebody who clearly had the president's ear and had
his ear to the ground, so to speak, of the
issues that the younger part of the base were really
really fired up about and cared about. It just seems
that that like, you know, uh, way to get into
the White House was died with Charlie Kirk. And it's
a huge problem. I guess like the next closest person
with the JD Vance who has been counter signaling Trump
a little bit on these topics this week. But I mean,
the loss of Charlie Kirk is it's it's particularly bad.
It's really really bad.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's I've heard people make the claim
that Charlie may be the only one who is even
pushing back on our greatest ally with him. You know,
we know he was pushing back on the bombing and
you know everything he was coming to. But who who
does Trump have around him they could possibly be doing this,
They could possibly be saying no, no, they don't get
the way, they don't get their way anymore. No, or
you know, you have to you have to ration out
your you have to ration out what you give to them. Yep.
When I looked at Trump for this term, my my
thought was he's going to be as friendly to Israel
as he wasn't the first And I mean, I'm willing
to put up with that just for every for the
possibility that everything else would get done. I mean, I
just didn't know that he was going to be full
on knees dirty as as he's and it doesn't seem
like there is anybody there to to push back on it.
Speaker 3: I wrote a very optimistic article almost immediately after the election.
It's still on the OGC sub stack, and I remember
I and it's still there. In writing, I had cautious
optimism just because I was hoping that sort of the
the coalition nature of his election, which seems to have
just completely disappeared. It was very clear in the election
and up to the point that he was elected, that
there were very explicit coalitions being built, and I was
sort of hoping that would temper some of the dummer
actions that he took in his first term, and I
just that hasn't come to pass. I think the optimism
was entirely misplaced on my part.
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, there there's really nothing you could say
that you can't beat yourself up for having optimism going
into the administration, right, What I will.
Speaker 2: Say, that's that's something that that's something that people who
are terminally online are. It's like the people who go,
you know, you supported Trump and I supported Trump Because
you supported Trump, now you have to apologize. What do you?
What are you? What are you? My wife? Go fuck
yourself a little faggot.
Speaker 3: To be clear, I'm not apologizing for it or anything.
And just like just in retrospect, looking at what I
was hoping would happen, it just has not happened whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean, I think we can all say
that the last six months have not been great, and
the last two months in particular have been nothing short
of just unmitigated disaster. It's been very, very bad for
the last couple of months, especially after the after Charlie's death. Now,
what we'll say this as well is at the top
of this, I myself have more or less checked out
of a lot of stuff that's going on in the
Trump administration. I was gone, I was out of the
country for three weeks recently as people know, and I
had a lot of time to just kind of relax
and not really you know, be tuned into everything. I
recommend this for a lot of people that every now
and then you just need to unplug. So this stuff
just doesn't like literally eat your brain. So it's always
nice to have some R and R for people. But
I have no doubt that over the next like two
and a half three years, how much time we have left,
that there are going to be some things that Donald
Trump does that I like. Okay, I have no doubt
about that that it'll happen. You know, whatever that is
going to be remains to be seen. I also know
there are a lot of things I'm not gonna like
that're gonna happen. But what I absolutely refuse to do
at this point in the game is to be you know,
quote unquote like trusting the plan and you know, like
pulling cover for all the stupid things that Trump is doing,
like particularly what's going on in this interview, you know,
like what some people are saying, like, oh, well, Trump
has just got bad advisors around Him's like, guys, the
podcasts to stop with somebody, Okay, like this is just ridiculous.
I mean, he's the politician. He's the guy that goes
on all of the you know, news, news media and
everything like this. He's the guy who wants to be
in the spotlight. He's the guy who wanted to come
back the second time. The bucks got to stop with somebody. Okay,
I'm not doing this kind of stuff anymore for another
three years where we're like, oh, well, you know, if
we just say it this way, and if we pull
cover in this way, and you know, if I see
things in this particular time and place, things are going
to get better and we're gonna get the voices up
the chain of command stuff. It's like, just stop, stop
with all of this stuff. Okay, you need to take
a break.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the trusters are just maniacal at this point. I mean,
if you're if somebody's I mean, and you could see
that on Twitter, I mean, the freaking plan, trust see it.
Every day they're turning on him, They're turning on him. Yeah,
and it's I mean it's hard not to. I mean
when days we played a video where he literally was
freaking defending academia in this country, like saying, oh yeah, yeah,
you know, we want them to succeed. I want them
to all burn.
Speaker 1: It's literally public enemy number one, Yeah, right up there
at the time.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, what did Thomas soul said once?
He said, every bad thing that happened in the twentieth
century was devised by a man from Harvard? Why the
fuck do I why the fuck do I want to
see Harvard in anything but ashes?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, We're going to carry on here
some more very disappointing stuff. I mean, again, like I
was saying, this week has been the absolute worst week
for the Trump administration since all the Iran stuff. Easily,
this one has just been one stepping out a rake
and hitting yourself in the face with the three Stooges
style after another this week. Man, We're gonna get to
a couple more of those in a minute here. But
I just like to stress once again about like this
plan trusting stuff and everything. It's like, dude, if your
life is that consumed with Donald Trump being right and
everything else going to be like the magic bullet theory
that fixes everything for us, It's like that is It's
like the same people who are obsessed about like the
Jays all the time on any issue, thinking that we're
hiding behind every single rocket, every tree. Okay, you can't
let Donald Trump completely control your life. You can't let
the Jays completely control your life. You can't let race
completely control your life. Okay, you guys gotta go out
and actually do some stuff in the real world, and
you really just can't be obsessed with all the little
uh details of the my new show of things. There's
gonna be things we like, There's gonna be things we dislike.
There's gonna be times where we should go chimping. There's
gonna be times so we should be praising.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: People just need to have some very leveled heads about
this stuff. And quite frankly, we need to start looking
to the future. Okay, Trump is only gonna be here
for another three years, and I don't know about you guys,
but I plan to be here for a very very
long time after these three years, not just in this
whole space, but just in my life in general. Right,
my life is going to go on after Donald Trump
is gone, and we need to start thinking about the future.
You know, we're talking about America first, the movement well
and needs to get changed into Americans first talked about
this right at the start. Maybe that's somebody like JD. Vance.
Obviously he's been lined up as the next successor to Trump.
He's been saying some things that we do like this week.
We'll see what happens. We get the midterms coming up
next year, it's gonna be an absolute blood bath unless
the Trump administration gets their head out of their ass
and starts actually focusing on domestic issues that people actually
give shit about.
Speaker 2: Eight TB eighty eight here in the chat makes a
really good point. He says the only foreign students at
this point that Trump doesn't wander the anti Semitic horns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very true.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean the people have been kicked out
of the country, like like student visiting students have been
kicked out of the country for anti Semitism, not open
hostility to white people. Who's in charge? Who's in charge
of the country.
Speaker 1: Indeed, well, just think about the list of stories right here,
and it's like, man, oh man, which which next horrible
thing do we want to turn our attention to next? Guys? Yeah,
you know, well, well, since we're talking about the midterms
for next year, we have to talk about domestic issues.
One of the things that is the most importan an
issue for everybody on the domestic front is the extreme
spike and high cost of living as it relates to
purchasing and buying homes in the United States. This has
been something we've been talking about for months and months
and months on the show. There's many people in the audience,
many people in the OGC Broader network in general, who
are struggling to buy their first homes. Of course, so
what do we have is the great shining solution from
the Trump administration this week. And I just couldn't believe
this when I saw this on President Trump's Truth Social
I could not believe this is a thing. It's like,
this might be the most boomer tweet ever made. It's
certainly up there great American presidents. The thirty year mortgage
by President FDR and now we've got the announcement from
the Trump administration the fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but that's the most Jewish thing I've ever heard.
I know.
Speaker 1: It's just about to say pee. It's like we're reaching
levels of usury, not not foreseen. I never thought possible
before fifty years.
Speaker 3: Like you don't want to spend half a century like
with a financial instrument barely maybe getting to have a
home that doesn't sound appealing.
Speaker 2: Excusy twenty million deportations. Best I could do is add
twenty million, twenty years to your mortgage.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you know what's even more crazy about this? Okay,
it's like to you know, to the casual observer, right,
you might be thinking, oh, okay, you know, maybe a
fifty year mortgage, right, it might be something reasonable for
you know, a giant ass mansion or something like Donald
Trump lives in or something like this, you know, or
maybe some commercial real estate or something something that you're
going to be paying you know, tens of millions of
dollars for or even more. You know, yeah, you know,
why don't we put that on a fifty year mortgage?
Might make sense? No, we're literally talking about fifty year
mortgages for two bedroom homes. What is this bullshit? What
what are we even talking about here? It's like, oh, yeah,
you know, the family of three that are in their
early thirties who are just trying to get up that
ladder so they can actually have a good American life,
like people always said, you know, you know, love how
these bloomers always talk about, oh, I want to have
my kids grow up so they can have it better
than what I had it. Right, here we go the
fifty year mortgage, which I saw people defending this too,
which I just believe people oh yeah, oh yeah, we
were talking about some of the oh yeah, oh yeah.
I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 3: I specifically tried to follow this and I couldn't find
people defending it. There were plan trusters defending oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Well what's even crazier is that there were some people.
So here's here's some here's some red hawk lore for people. Okay,
so I actually worked as a more Bridge underwriter for
a couple of years. Okay, so I know quite a
bit about this industry. Right there are actually people out
there who don't, who are trying to defend this. Number
one and number two don't even know that you could
do like not even five seconds of math on this one,
to just show how absolutely ludicrous this is. People can
do this right now, all right, here's a tip for everybody.
You can go google right now an amorateurization schedule for
your mortgage. Okay, I'll take you five seconds to do,
and you're plug in your numbers and the difference between
a thirty year and a fifty year mortgage. People think like, oh, yeah,
your monthly payment is going to be down a little bit. Well,
guess what, You're not going to be banking pretty much
any payments down on the actual principle of that loan
for the first ten to fifteen years of that. So
you're literally going to save a grand total of like
two thousand bucks. Like that's it over like the course
of like a fifty year mortgage over the thirty Like
this is just oh my god.
Speaker 2: I said that today, like the first year, the first
twelve payments a dollar each payment is going to go towards.
Speaker 3: Another and interesting thing about this as well, the at
least according to the Federal Reserve, is that like as
the time of the of the mortgage increases, so does
the brate as well. So not only is it going
to be a fifty year mortgage, but if like the
pattern holds, it's also going to have a higher rate
attached to it as well, which I mean, I don't know,
it sounds a levantine to me, the scheme, so so
something I really wanted to talk about this slightly more
in depth. I know this is not like the the
ultra in depth stream, but it was. I'll be brief,
there's a lot of people that correctly pointed out that
if you deported the people that should not be here,
obviously the demand for housing goes down, as so does
the price. That's a very basic inference. Everyone's correct on that.
There's other other reasons to do that as well, regardless
of just this housing and economic thing. But this is
something that I really wanted to hammer is that this
is not like that's not just going to fix the
whole thing. Because the way that the current system is working,
mostly put into place by boomers and the people that
came just right before them, if I remember correctly, is
that even if we had like a perfectly homogeneous country
only of Americans, only the people that should be here,
if the population continues to increase, like we all have
our prosperous families, they have children, and it keeps going,
the population grows, we're bountiful. The current system is ordered
in such a way that, like the house price is
supposed to continue towards infinity because that's what the boomers want,
their want on their balance sheets. That's that's a great
way for them to have wealth. The price of their
property can it needs to increase, that's their savings or
anything else that they would ever need. This is not
how it is actually supposed to be. If you saw
in any other market that the price just keeps continuing
to infinity, regardless really of like what the population is doing.
This has been a trend for a long time now,
and it's embodied in the meme that everyone shares where
it's like the boomers got their houses for ten thousand
dollars or something obscene. If you saw any other market
the price just continues to trend towards infinity, you would
think something is terribly wrong there, and you would be
correct in your assumption. So it's not necessarily just that
we need to deport millions of people, even though that
needs to happen and it would help, Like the whole
thing needs to fundamentally come down and reform just because
it even if we got everything we wanted, save for
fixing the policies around housing and say money printing, we're
just kicking the can down our road to or to
our own children. Which was I find that at least
to be objestionable.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, thy name is Boomer Ryane.
Speaker 2: So check this, check this out.
Speaker 6: I had.
Speaker 2: A mutual on Twitter. Send me this today, He said,
I was researching the percentage of investor owned properties in
my neighborhood and adjacent joining subdivisions as well. I was
looking at a relatively new development twenty twenty one to
present a mile down the road, and the data is
borderline shocking. There are four hundred and sixty three homes
in this development, which was built in several phases. The
initial phase was larger multi story homes. The owner's names
were forty percent of Indian origin, which seems like a lot,
But this development is across the street from a tech
hub campus with four thousand employees, so I could see
it being a relative outlier versus population. Locally, he gives
the it's an average size city which is four four
percent Asian. This was the case for the first two
phases forty sixty split, then it flipped a sixty forty
for two phases, then eighty twenty eighty, twenty ninety ten. Overall,
across four hundred and sixty homes, sixty one percenter owners
with Indian names. All these homes were built during the
rate hike cycle, and I was just baffled that anyone
could afford them, especially the ladder phases, which are three
two two thousand square feet homes, almost row homes, even
though they are physically separated by a few feet. Was
this just some kind of fraud mill property scheme? Just unbelievable.
Even these smaller homes were going for three fifty to
four hundred. To top it off, it's basically a ghost town.
They added almost five hundred homes at this one intersection,
and there's been no noticeable uptick in traffic or people
walking the neighborhood or cars on the street. I'm dubious
anyone actually lives there, to be honest. Do you see
this stuff on Twitter and think it's probably not that
pervasive and then bang, it's right down the street from you.
Speaker 1: Wild. I mean, just so shows you how much of
our economy is just one hundred percent fake. It's just
so crazy. It's like, yeah, the solution here number one,
like thinking like, oh yeah, we're just gonna have infinity
growth like Ryan was talking about for a fifty year mortgage.
Just like in any other time in history, people would
not view, you know, the house as your main asset
of how you're just going to make it big in
the world just because like the price just gets inflated
into oblivion.
Speaker 2: Well it's you know, post nineteen seventy three, you know,
nineteen seventy three off the gold standard. And I just
did an episode today where I was talking about how
in nineteen seventy three the average price of existing home
was twenty nine eight hundred. Now the average price of
existing home is four hundred and thirty two thousand. That's
basically a fifteen percent, fifteen times increase, but the median
income has only increased five times. And then you look
back in nineteen seventy three and you're like, well that's
and only one parent was working at the time.
Speaker 1: Well, you see, Pete, You're just will see Pete, You're
just lazy, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just lazy. I expect to get stuff
for free. Just like Ben Shapiro said on the Triggeronnometry podcast,
you gett you know, you're lazy. If you have a problem,
get on a train and go somewhere else. Oh yeah,
but when Israel needs money, you stupid motherfucker. What then
you better shut the fuck up and give it to them,
or else you're anti Semitic. This is a I mean,
do you realize we are just I mean, this is
an occupied country where people can get up people will
literally get up there and call you and say, you're
a socialist. If you want something for free, how dare
you want to live where your ancestors live, where your
ancestors are buried. Oh but I've not, you know, I
don't even live in this country over here. But motherfucker,
when that country needs money, you better fucking dish it
out or else you're an anti Semite. What a piece
of shit. That motherfucker is. All of them, I mean
not every frigging one of them, but all the you know,
the ones who talk like this, and they just you know,
the Mark Levin's the world these we don't have a
country as long as they're here, as long as they
have power, as long as they have influence.
Speaker 1: It's just so it's so maddening because not just with
these subversive characters like you're talking about Pete, but the
kinds of people that should be helping the youth. I
forget who said this, but it's a fantastic quote. It's
like the old should only ever exist to help out
the young. It's like, yeah, it just gets right to
the meat of it right there.
Speaker 2: It's like that's history before basically countries became financialized. As
soon as countries became financialized, Hey son, you're on your own.
Fuck you, I'm going on a cruise.
Speaker 1: It's just so frustrating and such a joke, especially as
you know, I'm a millennial who's trying to get into
the housing market. You know, it's just it's the same
thing that so many of us have talked to. Every
single person in the chat if you're around our age,
can talk about this. And you know, so many people
were just like this, that they were just maybe one
or two years away from getting in on the market,
and then it went away from them again and they
crypt up again. It's like, oh, maybe two more years,
I could do it. It's like nope, it's just constantly
like the rug is being pulled out from under you.
Just to even get a start, man, just to get
a start. And then the other people who are allegedly
on our side in this movement, conservatives, the right wingers
or something, they just have it wrapped up in their
egos so much that they were just some financial wizard
and financial genius and they worked super hard and it
had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that they
got in when labor was expensive and land was cheap.
You know, it's just.
Speaker 2: Got to the country and the country was white.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It just has to be that the Millennials
and the Zoomers are just unique in all of human
history as being the laziest people who have ever set
foot on the entire planet. It's like, I'm sorry, but
the new statistics just came out two weeks ago. Okay,
five percent of Americans age thirty are married and living
at home. It's like, that is not systemically laziness amongst people.
That's just not.
Speaker 3: Despite this apparent laziness epidemic, somehow, like labor productivity continues
the skyrocket every year.
Speaker 1: It's a fascinating Oh, it's all those people we keep importing, Ryan,
They're gonna work those jobs and Americans won't.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Yeah, that's that's what the uh, that's what
the statistics bear out on things like security and welfare
and all of that. Is something that I would really
like to emphasize here. Uh, really very intimately linked to
this anti boomer sentiment, which is entirely justified.
Speaker 1: If you are a heritage.
Speaker 3: American, you don't have anywhere to go once the country
has been looted, burned, and whatever else. Like you are here,
if you genuinely are a heritage American, you believe in
it like like I'm sure many of many of us do,
especially those in the OGC itself. You can't tolerate not
only just like getting your thing right now, while the
rest of the country burns around you. The it's it
would be like telling an Englishman that, like, you'll be
happy with a with this like small pittance, the equivalent
of a fifty year mortgage, while the entire country gets destroyed,
salted and burned around you, bought up by outsiders and
whatever else. I feel like many people, even those somewhat
close to us, have not internalized that we aren't an
economic zone. We can't just flee if, say, the Boomers
loot the country to death, die off, and then leave
us with the with the ashes. We can't just go
somewhere else. It's not how it works where we're tied here, are.
Speaker 1: True, Ryan, I mean, the thing is just is just
a never ending source of woe for me when dealing
with these people is again, it's that same thing that
everyone internalizes that I want my kids to have it
better than I did. It's like, okay, prove it. Just
prove it, and don't try and fight the youth on
every single issue, Biel when they're talking about the troubles
that they're facing in this economy, in this market. No,
it's like just just no. I don't think that heritage
Americans are just sitting on the couch and asking for
a handout here. They're not. They what they want is
a country that actually works for them, a system that
should work, as everybody else on the entire planet has
a country that works for them and for their people,
and ours just doesn't. Well that's not like sitting on
your couch and acting entitled and you know, being super
lazy and being ungrateful or something like that. It's just
we just want, but it's actually ours was given.
Speaker 2: No, No organism can be healthy when parasite, When it's
riddled with parasites, all of your all of your nourishment,
all of your wealth, everything has been taken from you.
I mean that's just it. We people come here and
they use this, you know, like yeah, you know, like
they yeah, some people have gone to other uh you know,
other nations to work or like you know, we have
military contractors that go overseas and some of them actually
end up doing murk work and in in Africa and everything,
and they basically get paid by some war lord there
to make sure that the friggin water keeps, you know,
the water keeps coming out of the faucets, and then
they come back here. We have a whole country full
of millions of people who are doing that right now.
Not only that, we have representatives of another nation who
basically if are if they couldn't rape our economy, rape
our tax system, and rape you get all these government
get the government's to sen they wouldn't exist, they wouldn't
or they'd have to figure something else out. They'd have
to use that famous high IQ to figure out how
to do it themselves. But it seems the only thing
that they can use that famous high IQ for is
to rape us and in many cases, like Jeffrey Epstein,
literally raping our kids.
Speaker 1: Should we talk about the the next grand idea from
the Trump team to help the struggling you what their
financial woes? Ryan, I knew you were jumping at the
bit to get a hold of this story. So why
don't we talk about the two thousand dollars stimy checks
that are about to come our way from the tariffs.
First of all, I'll believe it when I see it
number one on this one before I read this. The
other thing I will say, just at the very start
of it is like we talk about all the time
about how we actually need some client patronage networks going
on here on the right. I mean, this is honestly
just like what the Democrats do. So it'd be one
thing if you were to say that, oh, this is
just purely for machiavellan voting purposes that you know, I'm
literally just going to pay people off to vote for me. Okay,
that'd be one thing, But you know, playing this off
as you know, oh, this is how Americans are going
to get rich and how we're going to profit off
of the tariffs and everything like this is by giving
everybody who makes less than one hundred grand a year
two thousand bucks. Very very skeptical, But let me read
this truth social post here, and then Ryan, I will
unleash you like the dogs of war on this one,
because I know you're gonna have quite a bit to
say from President Donald J. Trump's true social account. People
are against tariff. People that are against tariff's are fools.
We are now the richest most respected country in the world. Yeah,
respected my ass, with almost no inflation, uh huh and
a record stock market price. Fuck you nobody. Uh the
youth can't even afford stocks to begin with four one
ks a the highest ever. Fuck boomers. We are taking
in trillions of dollars and will soon begin paying down
our enormous debt. Thirty seven trillion dollars, record investment in
the USA, Plants and factories going up all over the place.
A dividend of at least two thousand dollars a person,
not including high income PayPal will be paid to everyone. Ryan.
This sounds like a great idea, doesn't it. You know,
come on, just giving people some money right into their pockets.
Surely the people are just going to invest this in
high yield savings accounts and maybe get in on that
stock market that has had an all time high. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, like we all feel this right. We're the
richest most respected country right now that I'm sure everyone
here on the panel feels that way currently. I mean,
I know I do, you know, wanting to buy a
house before I turn fifty like it. I'm really feeling
the greatest economic administration in my life right now. But
we're every single person complains about rising prices, and there's
there's underlying reasons for that, but we don't really need
to go into it. What happens if you just give
every single person in the country two thousand dollars minus
a tiny minority above the cutoff, Well.
Speaker 1: Oh oo oooh, I'm raising my hand Ryan buying a
lot of air.
Speaker 3: Jordan's I bet that's probably going to be a lot
of it. That's a and and just if you'll, if
you'll indulge me just ever so slightly in the economic
part here, we get this money out of thin air.
We don't just have this money because we decided we
were going to save more, consume less, produce more, or
anything like that. We didn't actually do much productive at
the very least though for some of this at least
I hope it wasn't confiscated from us to begin with,
hopefully some foreign entity, so it's less destructive than it
could be. But we suddenly get all this money and
everyone's probably going to spend it. That's what happened in
the last few stimulus checks that happened, so they usually
get called stimulus checks. Is because you go and spend it.
That's what they're planning on you doing. When everyone suddenly
decides they want to purchase something at the same time,
what happens to the price?
Speaker 1: It goes up.
Speaker 3: So we haven't actually produced more, we've taken money. In
the best possible case, we've just taken this money from foreigners, fine, whatever,
and we're just going to give it to everyone in
the country and we're going to consume a lot, and
the prices are going to go up. Does this of anything?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Did this bring is it? Is this bringing manufacturing back?
If we just have this like one time injection of
two thousand dollars, likely not. I doubt many of us
are going to buy like goods that go directly to
the manufacturing sector. I imagine that's not going to happen.
And if it is used to say like the Jordan's,
I don't think that we're manufacturing those here, though I
could be mistaken. Maybe that's some esoteric knowledge about footwear
that that I don't know. And it kind of just
makes me ask, like, what are we doing? The whole
campaign promise surrounding the economy was that we were going
to undo like the things making it more difficult to live.
We're going to bring down food prices, We're going to
make housing cheaper and what not, else all this stuff
that is actually plaguing young Americans. And in the same
I think this is the same day, maybe be one
day apart from the mortgage announcement. We just get told
we're going to get a bunch of band aids.
Speaker 1: It's just the day after. This is the day after
the mortgage stuff.
Speaker 3: So the day after the mortgage, which, as we have
discussed a linked did not solve any problem and in
fact threatens to exacerbate it by by allowing more people
to purchase homes who shouldn't be here. And these sons
keep rising to infinity and price. This isn't solving any
of the cost of living problems. You're just you're just
giving people a one time check basically to go spend immediately,
because once again they they haven't changed their behavior or
their ethics or whatever. They're just going to spend it
like they would if they got two thousand dollars anyways.
So we're just we're just telling the young people, like
the boomers, are giving us like a pittance, like here,
here's some two thousand dollars. Hope this helps you know
you can live comfortably now. And that's even if we
get in the first place, because the Secretary of the
Treasury was throwing out ID is about how this might
be an indirect two thousand dollars stimulus, Maybe we'll lower
some taxes or whatever. This whole thing just infuriates me
to know. When the mortgage and this like a one
to two punch, we're just really going to say, like,
screw the youth, screw anyone trying to live here. You
heritage Americans who have been here for generations, you don't
actually have You don't get to just live here like
your ancestors did. We're going to keep squeezing you in
terms of a price of cost of living. We're going
to keep squeezing you on the real estate market. But
here's two thousand dollars. Go go have fun with it.
I'm apoplectic and I'll stop there. I'll just keep going otherwise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think one of the things that boomers and
a lot of older people in this country really just
don't understand about the financial situation and about like the
psychology it kind of does to people who aren't very
well off in these financial positions. You guys know, like
those financial audit like clickbait videos that that one like
broccoli haircut guy, that Caleb guy with his glasses you
know do you guys know that guy and they make
the rounds on Twitter all the time where he finds
like some millennial person who's like one hundred grand in
debt or something for stupid spending habits or something like that.
You guys know what I'm talking about. Yeah, and people
not probub. Yeah. So I think what a lot of
people don't understand is that, oh people say like, oh,
well two thousand bucks, Well why don't you just invest that,
Why don't you just you know, start saving up for something?
And it's like, well, if you're in the position of
like most Americans, where what's the average now, it's that
the average American is something like fifteen thousand dollars in
debt or something. When you take in like things like
college student loan debts and credit card debt and something
like that, it's like, you know, just the average person
in your country is in debt. Okay, they just see
themselves as not having any way out of their situation
whatsoever that they aren't going to take this two thousand
bucks too, which is really not going to dig them
out of the holder and literally at all, and they're
just going to go and find some kind of reprie
from their woes. Also, this is what people talk about, like, oh,
the two thousand bucks, I'm gonna go buy a big
screen TV, so at least I can, you know, have
a little bit of entertainment in my life. Or I'm
gonna go to the bar and I'm gonna buy some
buy some liquor or something. You know. It's like people
use these two thousand bucks for sedation because that's the
position that they're in. It's like trying to tell somebody
that this two thousand bucks is they're going to be
their path to climbing up the ladder and shaking the
boss's hand and getting their way up to you know,
middle class lifestyle. Which, by the way, the other thing
here that's is just so preposterous is that one hundred
grand is now Like, dude, that's that's like middle class
now make one hundred grand a year. It's like, what
are you talking about that? You know, when we were kids.
That was like the high end to go for. But
our money has just been so inflated away at this
point that what you think one hundred grand makes you rich? Now,
how do your mind?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's worth pointing out that our entire conversation
at this point assumed that like Americans will be the
only one getting it. We haven't had the the mass
population transfer that we've hoped for, so it's not just
going to be us getting it. There will be a
lot of this money should it materialize, by the way,
that that's also on the table, Like it just doesn't happen,
but if it does, we aren't the only ones that
are going to be getting it. This is a massive help,
I'm sure for that group, but you know, the actual
people that are the core of Trump's base, like, screw you.
Speaker 2: I guess yeah, I just I think all of this,
everything just comes back to high trust versus Strip Mall.
At one time, not very long ago, we had a
high trust society in nineteen seventy three, eighty three percent white,
you know, eleven percent black. I mean brought him here
kind of you know, maybe killing killing Lincoln was a
bad idea because you know, he had some plans, but
still eighty three percent. And what happened now thirty percent
is over thirty percent of the country is from every
everywhere else in the world. And you have to ask yourself,
especially in the last ten to fifteen years, twenty years,
how many of them came here? Are just here for
the check? We're just here to make the money and
send it home. I remind people remittances from the United
States back to India are four percent of their GDP.
I trust, I trust versus a trip ball.
Speaker 1: It's like that great tweet that Charlemagne had where the
United States government has finally found something they don't want
to tax its foreign rooumins is unbelievable. Ah Boyce is
a depressing stream today. There's just no good topics whatsoever.
And we haven't even gotten to the Israel one yet,
which we will shortly after we catch up on these
super chats. So let's go through some of them real
quick and then we'll get to the other thing. You know,
it really just was this week. It was just amazing
how literally, just like six days in a row, it
was a news story every day. It's like, how could
it possibly get worse? How could it possibly get more terrible.
What kind of bad suggestion they're gonna make again today?
Surely they're gonna turn around at least a little bit
and give us some red meat or something. It's like
this Israel document comes out earlier today. It's like to
our super chats from our fantastic listeners, we got Christopher Burks.
He's the first one. I see Salt Snake as number two,
but he's snuck in before you a Solid Snake. He
sends us a salute and two bucks. Thank you very much.
I like that, Thank you, Patton. Real Americans indeed all right.
Nineteen Solid Snake nineteen sixty four for ten bucks, says
Eving gents. One of, if not the only upside to
all this heritage Americans being sold down by the river
by the admin and Connig, is that we finally know
who's really on our side and not God willing, these
people will be held accountable someday and real Americans will
take their places. Salute main focus.
Speaker 6: They need to go.
Speaker 7: They all need to go, every single one of them.
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Fahrenheit. I didn't know you stuck into
the stream. Yeah, God, we got the best producer, don't we.
Books all right, We'll thank you, solid steak, and yes,
hopefully someday justice will indeed be served. So TK for
ten bucks says salute gents. A month's old ex posts
just got popped for hateful conduct, simply noticing that people
got banned for calling out h one b Indians. Twitter
is enemy territory again. Huh interesting, Well keep your hand
on a swillow out there, guys, for real Americans, real Americans. Indeed,
Don Browning, the only woman in the chat for twenty
Australian bucks, as she sends us every week, has a
supersticker and this time it's a cartoon women or cartoon woman,
i should say, whose ponytail flies up into a heart
and her eyes light up like stars. Thank you, Don Browning,
We greatly appreciate it. Valero three nine to three for
ten bucks. This guy's an old head. He's been around
since the AA. For ten bucks. We may not be
engaged in a war, other countries are raging war on
us by non military means like espionage, IP theft, and
elite replacement. Trump, for all his strengths, is still just
a boomer. Yep, very true. I mean this wasn't even
this wasn't even a thing we discussed during the Chinese thing.
It's like just all the intellectual property theft, And did
you guys see this At the University of Michigan, They've
now arrested something like six to ten Chinese students for
smuggling in bio weapons and viruses into the University of
Michigan labs. It's like they're literally just importing weapons so
they can experiment that on them in our universities with
our technologies. What the fuck are we doing.
Speaker 3: After the events of the last sixty years. I could
never have predicted that happening.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, man, It's just can we just have a little
bit of ingroup preference, like just a tiny bit, you know,
just at least being on the radar, you know. Believable
cringe Walker, I hope he's feeling better. I know he's
been battling the flu recently. But he for ten bucks,
he says, I love being living proof that Americans have
talent and they can learn the talent in mirror weeks.
Damn right, man's a mad scientist. In a just world,
cringe Walker would be paid a boatload of money in
gold wheelbarrows full of gold for the things that he does.
Quite an intelligent man, to say the least. Someday, someday
when we win, my friend, all the government grants are
going to you get a big giant Frankenstein mansion mad
House for you. TK for five bucks again, eleventh grade
Americans with summer coding camp outperform undergraduate third worlders with
computer science degrees, including half mestizos in the eleventh grade. Really,
h I mean, I believe it. I totally believe it now.
It's like I believe in Americans. I've seen what my
people can do. It's it just cannot be stressed enough
that we are all we need and we're all we have.
Never gets old, never gets old. Semper credula for five bucks. Hey,
they're right that AI is taking our jobs. It just
happens to stand for in Indian. That's so horrible. It's
like it's like the other thing too. It's like, oh, yeah,
the AI is gonna come in and sweep all of
our jobs away. Let's just keep importing more and more people.
Come on, guys, you know, the jobs aren't gonna be here,
but we really just need to, you know, import all
these people so they can build the device that's going
to take away all the jobs. And what are we
gonna do with all these people once we're here? Nah,
We're just going to keep them. You know, We're already
struggling enough to deport people as it is. It's just
so wild. At least, the one silver lining is that
Jadie Vance was talking about how we don't need any
more Americans being naturalized period, So at least we've got that.
Xenrath for fifteen bucks says, if Trump wants to run
America like a business, just be an entrepreneur and found
a true international college and let the interlopers study there.
This way of doing things only makes sense if we
are trying to play within the ways have always been done.
We need to create better things. That's a good point. Yes, indeed,
no objections. City Breakdancer Man one of the most hilarious
super chatters in our audience. Beep, I can hear and
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Seasider wing of OGC headquarters, you know, will be constructed
one day. So Americans, he is a real American. Absolutely.
Pauli b for twenty bucks. Bill Clinton was the first
black president, Obama was the first Forum president, and Trump
is the first Jewish president. Oof oof uh air meg
Discourse for ten bucks. This ten bucks was promised to
the OGC two five hundred years ago. Yeah, there you go, exactly,
why don't we just get two thousand to your mortgages
at this point? You know, it's like, but why does
it even matter? The other thing we didn't really make
a comment about this though, is that, you know, in
normal times, but just because like our economy has just
been so financialized and so riddled with debt across the
entire board. You know, the people are like paying for
Domino's pizzas on credit and debt at this point, just
like in normal times, just the banks would never be
like so brazen and confident in a position to do that.
It's like fifty year mortgage, you know, they're just making
so much on all these interest payments that everyone has.
Speaker 2: Well, visual antism is looked down upon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good point. Hey, it's so horrible too, because
you know, we've got Christmas season coming up, and I
don't know about you guys, but the classic Christmas movie
that I've always watched my house was you know, It's
a Wonderful life, right, It's like, oh, great big plot
in the movie is that you know, we're gonna forego
our honeymoon. You know, George is gonna go to the
bank and use his own money to make sure that
the bank isn't taken over. Just imagine that these days, man,
does anyone hold bankers in high esteem, high regard? Whatsoever?
Does anybody think about their communities in such a way
like that? By gone age man Moving on to Cringey
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Shrewster Bought thirty three fifty four has finally sent his
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Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that cringe can just like write
out his outline for a dystopian fiction novel and like
and fit it into a super chat.
Speaker 1: Oh so terrible. It's like as bad as my buddy
Ryan Stone when he wrote in his dystopian science fishing
novel that in the future, Google is going to own
all the appliances in your house and it's gonna make
you watch an ad just so you can use your
fucking toilet. So bad A chancey sends us fifty five
bucks and ten cents denomination for a super jet, Well,
thank you very much, sir, We greatly appreciate it. You, sir,
are real American. Let's see, years ago, American journalists would
scoff at how fake the Chinese economy was, how it
was all ghost cities and bridges made of garbage. Now
it's our economy that's entirely fake. Houses of cardboard and
ultra thin wood. Incredible. That's the other thing we didn't
even talk about is it's like, just look at the
material that these houses are built with today, and it's
like they're held together with like, you know, straws and toothpicks,
and somehow they're still like half a million bucks.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's it's not the actual appliance. It's not the actual house.
It's not the great of the house. It's not the
fact that it's got a fridge, it's not the fact
that there's a TV in it, or any of these
other bullshit arguments that boomers want to give to you,
and says like, well, when I just have my first house,
you know, we have basically nothing in it. It's like
the houses are literally half a million bucks. What plan
are you living on? And they break every five seconds? Unbelievable.
Imagine my lack here we go, just feeding it right
into the next super chatter. Imagine my lack of shekels
for fifteen bucks. And he says, this fifty year mortgage
scheme has more wrinkles than the forehead of that lady
who interviewed Sidney Sweeney. Oof, I've got seven hundred dollars
in equity and just five hundred and fifty more payments
to go. You'll own nothing and be happy. Man oh man. Again,
I just couldn't believe that people were defending this stuff.
And it's just really really basic math on this one.
I come on, guys, just look past the first thing
you see at the front of your face. That is
like your monthly payment unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I find it hilarious as well. But the plan trusting
on that specific post also implies that you really like FDR,
Like oh yeah, still around that likes FDR and Trump together.
Speaker 1: Or Christopher Sambatch.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, number one a single I asked for a
single person.
Speaker 1: I got it, alrighty uh. Moving on here to chief
Slinging Beef for five bucks. My plant is top five
in all metrics in rural Tennessee and one in rural Michigan.
Both are ninety five plus. White corporate always says, wow,
how do these places do so well? We would have thought,
do you get with those Americans? You know, we got
to get those foreigners to work in those factories. Man,
those Americans they're just not doing as well. Pete Budapest
for two bucks? Is we get in a tariff check?
Dead ass? I mean, I guess I'll say this on
the other front too. It's like, listen, guys, like, if
you're gonna get it, just if you qualify Ford, just
take it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: You know there's our guys just need every little bit
that they can, I don't know, go buy some Nike
stock shoot up real quick right afterwards. Jonathan Burston for
two bucks, would you recommend leaving the cities? I mean,
I hate thee that was the questions, Yeah, I had.
Speaker 2: I had a conversation about this with Thomas this past
weekend while we were hanging out up in the Pacific Northwest.
You know, he doesn't want Yeah, he doesn't want people
to abandoned in the cities. But I mean even he
makes the point that if you're going to stay there
and fight for the cities and you're going to have
a family, it's it's going to be really really hard, no,
I mean having a fam you know, if your goal
is to you know, do some kind of you know,
we need to take the cities back because there are
centers of power, their centers of culture, whatever it is. Yeah,
that may be a single that may be a single
man's job.
Speaker 1: I mean that's certainly true. You know, for two dollars
super chat, you know, like asking like one of these
like life altering kinds of questions. Right, It's like, come on, man,
you gotta have a little bit more frame for your
own life basically, right. I mean it's like I don't
particularly care for cities. I acknowledge that there are a
lot of opportunities for people in them for career choices,
maybe not for finding a mate. But you know, it's
just it's tough no matter where you go, man, and
there's advantages of disadvantages to all of them. I mean,
my recommendation to everybody is just no matter where you go,
you got to find your people. And we hear at
the OGC we have people everywhere, so that's that's the
most important place to start. Sean Wiland, our financial genius
in the in the chat for two bucks, says financial nihilism.
That's left is gambling. Well that's going up too well.
I mean, Lindy Man has been tweeting about this quite
a bit. Is the outbreak of no as more and
more sports betting and sports gambling is legalized across all
the states. Actually all the professional sports people are getting involved.
There are just two baseball pitchers for Cleveland that were
just a band from the MLB because they were fixing
their pitches, you know, to make tens upon tens of
thousands of dollars on these gambling apps. I'm actually seeing
now that you know, your sports betting apps are actually
becoming full blown casinos on your phone because these things
are making so much money. It's a slot machine you
can literally hold in your pocket. At this point, it's like,
oh yeah, I'm here to do a five dollars parlay
on the basketball game while I'm at it, sitting in commercials,
I'm gonna slit, you know, do a couple of spins
on the slot machine while I'm at it. I tell you, man,
that is one of the things I regret voting for
the absolute most on my record. That is a really,
really bad stain on my record for sure. Hugh Michey,
Velly sucks. Being white is great for five bucks. We
need to stop giving grants to Indians and Asians. Well, yeah,
I mean that's that's just obviously true, Mikey. For twenty
bucks two thousand dollary dues after rent, being on average
seventeen fifty in the average multi grocery bill is two
hundred and forty dollars a month, at least we all
get ten bucks to invest. Yep, yep, yeah, that's that's
how you start, guys, you know, just to keep scrolling
that ten bucks away and go work your job in
McDonald's and you two can be a middle class American,
you know, with a white of kids and a white
piket fans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, make your coffee at home, and one day,
maybe your like tenth descendants will be able to purchase
a plot of land that's the size of an office desk.
Speaker 1: Hey, maybe they'll have you know, generational mortgages by then. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But hey, at least your descendants, you know, who are
living in Squalor, we'll be able to look back and
look overseas and see just how much you did for
that country, Israel, and how you know, a thousand years
from now, Jesus still hasn't come back.
Speaker 1: Now you can always, you know, hold your hat up high,
and you know, be proud of yourself, knowing at least
I didn't get I betray my principles. Not grim on
the Conservatives. They need to go.
Speaker 7: They all need to go, every single one of them.
Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Vice President Fahrenheit. I like that clip.
Very good. Not grim for two bucks financial nihilism. All
that's left is gotcha. Yeah, Like mister Wyland was pointing
out earlier, Pete Budapest for five bucks, I think it's
pretty obvious that the usual suspects are using last week's
election losses as leverage on Trump listen to us or
lose your presidency. I mean, that's that's obvious. A lot
of people are doing that. Unfortunately, it's all the wrong
people that are doing that, because they were the ones
that put all these limp dick wristed diversity candidates up
in all these districts, and of course they got their
asses handed to them, which was obvious to literally anybody
who's paying attention except for the traditional conservatives. I hope
Vivek gets absolutely fucking curb stomped next year into the dirt.
You know, he'd be buried under six feet of poo afterwards.
But you know, again, play the clip again, Play the
clip again of mister Fahrenheit, because it just cannot be stated.
They focus on the conservatives.
Speaker 7: They need to go, the all need to go, every
single one of them.
Speaker 1: Yep, a cringe walker once again. ADMIN withholding unemployment rate
this month really filling me with confidence in this economy?
Yeah really, yeah, it's just now, I don't care how
many times you slice it, how many times you tell
me that the four to one k's are doing great
in the top markets at all time high. You know,
it just it just honestly fuels me with so much
boomer hatred every time I see one of those things.
It's like, it doesn't matter. They're all fake metrics for
what the economy actually is. What the economy actually is
is young people can't afford a home and start and
start families. It's the most important thing, and they can't
do it. Pete Budapest for five bucks. Hey Ben, maybe
Jerusalem just isn't meant for you to live in. Maybe
you should look to live somewhere else. Oh wait, my
bad every single time. Thank you, mister Katarlson, Thank you
very much. Now, honestly, like if anyone do you guys
know like the same stuff like the boomer The boomer
insults are just particularly bad man, they're just like to
turn just like like democrats and you know, Katarleson, you know,
very very weak sauce schep them two twenty four fifty
bucks tonight. Thank you very much, sir. We greatly appreciate
that he says. What in infuriating couple of months, there's
a very large Charlie Kirk shaped hole in the right.
Who is going to replace him? Salute to the OGC. Yeah,
very true. It is a huge, huge hole for Americas,
real Americans. Indeed, I mean it's sad to say that.
I think that was a giant, you know, Charlie sized
hole that a lot of us didn't realize until he
was gone, so to our internal shame. Moving on to
Pete Budapest again, and think again tonight, guys, for all
the super chats, you guys are really piling it on
for us, So thank you very much, he says for
another ten bucks. Not to get all elite theory, but
I feel like Project Trump was always an uphill battle.
Hard to overstate how little elite support heritage white Christian
Americans have basically non existent. I mean, very true. We
got Tucker Carlson, so everyone continue to pay attention what
he's doing. I gotta say I'm particularly enjoying his return
to the monologue form on Wednesday nights. I recommend everybody
be watching those because every one of them is just
straight facts and he's just spitting fire. Tucker's doing a
fantastic job.
Speaker 2: The Wednesday night shows are excellent.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, let's move on to James s. If Trump
was one tenth the authoritarian the left says he is,
he could crush the communist revolution and prevent the catastrophic
misery we will endure. And after that, if we are
lucky the American Franco. I mean again, it's very true.
Just be like one tenth of the Republican. The Democrats
accuse you of being. It's just because it's just all
projection for them, you know, they just tell us blatantly
and out in the open of what they're going to do.
It's just Republicans just have no balls, man, they really don't.
Just keep them two twenty for another five bucks. Most
of my coworkers have sports betting apps on their phones.
It makes me so sad. Oh yeah, yep, I see it.
Almost everybody everybody's got them. You know. You go over
to like a friend's house and you know you're watching
like NFL Sunday, right, and almost everybody there who's sitting
on the couch has got one of these is doing
the sports betting stuff. It is really really dark, man,
very bleak. And then like you you see the commercials
as well when you're watching like the sports games, and
almost all of them are the sports betting stuff, and
they've got all these schemes. You know, it's like Oh,
your first bet for one hundred bucks is absolutely free
if you, uh, you know, get on the app right now.
These these people are making so much money off that
they could afford to the second you get on the app,
give you a hundred bucks, you know for your first bet.
Nuts Machiavelli sucks. Being white is great for five bucks.
Ask how all these female nail shops afford their equipment? Yeah, well,
in their defense, I mean, have you seen how much
they charge women to get their nails and their hair done?
You know, it's just, you know, I think it's just
a complete inside job, just so women can feel proud
of themselves and have a one up over the other women.
You know, there's no way some of these hair points
cost a couple hundred bucks get out of here. Oh
it's not how much that labor and that product costs.
It's just so they can, you know, flex on the
other women who aren't getting their hair appointments. Pete Budapest
for two bucks. Many are saying Vivek should be in jail. Yeah,
it's obviously true. Cringewalker says, did my Carthage chat get missed?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know, I saw it go by in the chat earlier.
I don't think it's on the I think I might
have missed it on the on the list though, Well
we'll find it. Cringe, we'll find it. Oh wait, here
we go. Funny enough. After the Second Punic War, the
Romans imposed a punit of fifty year mortgage on the
city of Carthage for ten thousand silver talents two hundred
and fifty million in USD. Can't help but suspect its
generational vengeance. No, come on, cringy, this group, generational vengeance,
come on, no every single time. Alrighty, and the final
super chat, and then we're going to tackle the rest
of these stories really quick. They were really piling up tonight, guys.
Thank you very much. We really really appreciate it. Over here.
Vatican banker for five bucks. Creolos. European Latin Americans have
been minorities in their countries for centuries. It have maintained
full political, cultural, and economic power. The American Anglo has
much to learn from them, including the art of thriving
in cities. Well, I'll take your word for it on
that one. So all right, all right, let's buckle up,
let's do it. We were avoiding it all stream. But
we just have to, uh, you know, so, in wake
of President Trump, his terrible appearance on lower ingram, the
awful response with the administration on how we're going to
deal with the housing crisis and the inflation, and just
average Americans being in debt, we had to really just
take an entire can of gasoline and jump right into
the fire with this one. Because President Trump and his
infinite wisdom today decided that you know who's who, He's
going to go to bat for the leader of a
foreign country that has thrown him under the bus time
and time and time again. So here we have a
letter from President Trump official from the White House to
his excellency Isaac Herzog, the President of the State of Israel,
begging him to pardon Benjamin Yahoo.
Speaker 6: From the River to the Sea, Israel backstab me.
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna read this. I'm just gonna get
too angry because just no man, the United States of America,
with ten thousand plus nuclear weapons, the strongest country in
the history of the world, the richest country in the
history of the world, the most powerful man on the planet,
President of the United States, is begging on his hands
and knees to another foreign power to pardon somebody in
their country. It's just this is just completely unheard of
that has someone has a United States president ever debased
themselves before in such a way like this, getting involved
in another nation's politics like this. This is just crazy, man.
And this is why I will never ever give an
inch to all these fucking liars, like these Joel Berries
and the Seth Dillons of the world, and the James
Lindsay's and all these other fucking losers who are saying, Oh,
why are you guys so obsessed with Loseerel and so
obsessed with Jews. It's like, this is unhealthy, this is unnatural.
This kind of behavior is unbecoming of any like masculine
man whatsoever, let alone the most powerful man on the planet.
What the fuck are you talking about that I'm obsessed
like with this country or something. It's like, no, you
people are This is ridiculous, This is fucking absurd. Everyone
sees this as a joke. What are we doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, the Babylon b Is has been putting out
headlines just making fun of people who they say are
obsessed with Israel. I mean, first of all, I mean
Ted Cruz literally went on Tucker Carlson's show and said
he got elected to Congress, he got elected to the
Senate in order to be Israel's greatest defender. And in
the same interview, when he was questioned on that, he
asked Tucker why he was obsessed with Israel. I'm sorry,
who the fuck is obsessed with Israel? You just said
you got elected to do this. James Lindsay just went
and kissed the wall. Seth Dillon is making the rounds
and he looks, I mean, he's like, I'm convinced they
have him. There's a picture of him with a kid
attached to I mean, he looks like a hostage and
he's just going there and they're all doing this, And
why the fuck would you do this for people who
are not yours? Now I heard Seth Dillon is admitted
that he is Jewish ethnically Jewish, So that makes sense.
Why is James Lindsay doing this? Why is everybody else?
All of this money is being poured into this. Anyone
who wants to go on Facebook can see the seven
thousand dollars posts or just one after another after another. Look,
they have power, They're going to have power for a while,
but it's pretty obvious that they're panicking. This is the
one problem. See, normally, you know, for those who believe
in elite theory, you you need elites to change things.
And normally you know that elites are going to change things.
You know that when one set of elites is going
to replace another set of elites, when they just get
sick and tired of the way things are, there's going
to be a civil war. But with this, and you
can see this in our reading of two hundred years together,
normal people start noticing. They did it in Russia, they
did it all throughout Europe, they did it all throughout
the one hundred and nine hundred and ten hundred and
eleven hundred and twelve. However many countries it's been now.
And that's that's why they're panicking so much. They know
their history. It's not only the elites who are like,
we don't want to deal with these people anymore. Normal
people start to notice and start to grumble. You think
you think the pograms, the quote unquote programs were directed
by elites, read Solshanesan. They weren't. It was people figuring
out these are the ones who are enslaving us. With Usuryad.
These are the ones who are who are feeding us.
You know this, Where did all this alcohol come from?
Where do where did these ends with prostitutes come from?
Where did all of this come from? I mean when
the people now, are the people in this country going
to commit violence against them? No? I don't think so.
I don't think they have it in them. They'll stop
doing business with them, They'll stop, They'll be vocal about it.
And I mean, it's how can you How can you
look at this letter and think you have a country?
We know who is in power at the moment. And
I released an episode today. It's one of the first
episodes I've done in a while where it's just me
talking and my quiet was everybody wants to talk about,
you know, throw this in our face. You know, if
you're a Christian, Book of Genesis says those who bless
Israel are blessed. Those who curse Israel or cursed. We've
been blessing Israel since nineteen forty eight. Can I see
some fucking blessings? Where are the fucking blessings? So either
the Bible is full of shit or it doesn't mean
that you have to bless Benjamin Netanyahu and Jeffrey Epstein
and the spy Jonathan whatever the fuck his name was. Yeah,
you're a gallant, Laura Lumer, all these fuckers, Josh Hammer,
Well you think you have to bless them? Where are
the fucking blessings.
Speaker 1: It's just so ridiculous coming from all these Christian voices,
because the whole point of the New Testament is Jesus
saying that Israel is the people, it is the Church.
It's not the actual you know, tiny ass little country
that's had its borders changed, you know, for thousands of
years and had different rulers going over it. And it's like, also,
like where is the line of David right now, like
currently in charge of Israel by the way as well.
So it's like even by that argument, you know, how
could you possibly say that this you know, tiny ass
little country has anything to do with that. It's just
none of that it makes sense at all.
Speaker 2: You're not a Jew unless you are sacrificing in the temple.
Thomas is right, there are no Jews without sacrifice, without being,
without expiation of sin, you cannot You're not a Jew.
So all these people are just land thieves, parasites upon
upon foreign countries terrorists as monocon bag and said, we
brought terrorism not only to the Middle East, we brought
it to the world. What and I'm supposed to bless them?
It's just.
Speaker 1: Even just again like throwing all the distinsationalist nonsense and
all the evangelical stuff out the window for a second.
It's just this is just so unbecoming of a man.
It's like, how does a man behave this way? Is
the thing I keep coming back to. So just look
at the language in here.
Speaker 2: Stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like stood tall for Israel in the face and
strong adversaries and long odds, and his attention cannot be
unnecessarily diverted. So what is this a fucking love letter?
Speaker 5: True?
Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Man, Oh, you guys are just so obsessed with
this Israel situation. Man, name one other country on the
entire pole planet that could boss around the United States
of America, a country that has enough nukes to level
the entire planet down to its last atom. What other
country could possibly get this kind of response from the
President of the United States.
Speaker 2: How many prisoners do they have to rape? Anally rape
on the film? You know before the blessings start flowing,
don't we have to bless that if we want, if
we want to be blessed. I mean, seriously, they just
arrested the woman who released that that video, the video
of the of the Palestinian prisoner being raped. They just
arrested the woman who was like, I can't take this anymore.
This is insane. This is not who we are, This
is not this is not what civilized people do. They
fucking arrested her. Just keep blessing them people. I mean,
if these, if these are the blessings, please show me
the I don't want to see the fucking curses.
Speaker 3: This is the country also that was at the outset
hostile to us upon its creation. Like this is a
like how does the how does the reasoning hold up?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 3: Like if Israel's against us, we just roll over and
take it, because that how it works. You bless them,
But if they decide to go against you, you just surrender.
Is that the Is that the idea? Because then because
then I wonder why why why didn't we you know,
why why fight this Cold War against international communism and socialism?
But also we're never going to write in any history
book or whatever else, like who who actually founded Israel?
Who the parties were, who who they sabotage, spied against,
which side they were on. We're just going to ignore that.
It's foundational mint for the exact same people that always
cite the stupid Verse. So it's another another piece of
history that gets selectively suppressed.
Speaker 1: The only white pill we can have out of this
is that, like we were saying earlier, is they these
people see that the writing is on the wall for
people like them. Well, the youth are not moving on
this issue. You know your your goal's on the left
have completely turned on you because you've indoctrinated all of
them to see Israel as a white oppressor, colonialist power.
And the people on the right are just absolutely done
with seeing their country being used for absolutely everything except
being used to actually for the interests of their own people.
Everything that the Americans are forced to tackle with, the humiliation,
the inflation, the drugs at home, the endless wars, the
mass migration, the ethnic replacement of our own people, the
destruction of our faith, of our traditions, of our history,
all of that has to take second banana to this,
and we're just done with it, and I will our
minds will never be changed on this issue. It is
too far gone. This is like literally one step removed
from literally sucking people's dicks.
Speaker 2: Curse Curse just tweeted only about one percent of spiders
are harmful to humans, yet we quickly eject them from
our homes when we see them. This post is not
about spiders.
Speaker 1: Any final comments on on this Ryan, It's pretty clear
it's a boomer issue, and it's another another point where
the boomers are content to just sell everything out, so
spike the youth and whatever else just to have their
last raw. They're the only constituency that actually cares about
this in a positive manner. So yeah, main focus the conservatives.
They need to go.
Speaker 7: They all need to go, every single one of them.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: The only other final thing I will say on this
one is, uh, yeah, where's all the planned trusters on
this one? And all those people who were saying, oh,
like what Jews you win and all that stuff? I
heard that was a very popular talking point amongst all
these characters for a while. Where's that now? Guys? Huh,
this is just so unbelievable to me. Again, this is
like how I imagine, you know, like the Gauls must
have come to Caesar, you know, after you just completely
destroyed them when you conquering ancient France. Now this is
like the sign of like someone who's just been absolutely
defeated coming forth and begging for mercy. Basically, this is
the kind of behavior you get from people. I imagine
this might be how like the people were treating, like
with the Mongols when the hordes were coming towards them,
just begging, please don't lay waste to my village and
my people. Fucking the country the size of New Jersey
with nine million people, zero strategic resources, zero strategic interest whatsoever,
just completely insignificant speck of sand in the middle of
a giant fucking desert, and we have to give endless
amounts of support, endless amounts of money, endless amounts of weapons,
endless amounts of airtime. It's just such a fucking joke.
And then people have the audacity to tell people like us, Oh,
what are you guys so obsessed about Israel? Aren't you
guys a little lunatics? Done with this story? Moving on, Brian,
You're gonna take the reins from here on this one,
because this is the next story we're going to talk about.
From the Intercollegiate Studies Institute. I so, what's going on here, Ryan,
and why should we care?
Speaker 3: So, as you can see on the text or on
the screen right now, that's a wall of text. We
aren't reading all of that. I'm just going to condense
it down to the part that matters. This was like
a buckley Oite conservative talking about how terrible things were
at ISI because the Buckleyites were being forced out by
the post liberal groups sort of clustered around Deneen and Burka.
So a bunch of our people, who probably have only
ever come across this from the outside, just looked at
it and saw that like Buckleyites were getting forced out.
Speaker 1: That's based.
Speaker 3: That's good the people forcing them out or are good too.
But that's not necessarily a correct assumption. So if you
like come across this institution, which for most people in
the OGC and listening to us, you probably haven't either
directly interacted with it, or if you have, it's like
the like the conservative group full of conservatives. So you
know that that tells you all you need to know,
don't We don't really need to like join this fight.
But since so many people have, like I saw a
bunch of guys donating money to ISI that were in
our spheres, a very nice sum of money to this
group because they forced out the Conservatives and whatnot. I
figured we should just like take a brief time to
analyze who is forcing out these Buckley eyes. If anyone
in the audience listened into American spirits for this week
and last week, they would know that I have nothing
but a burning contempt for Buckley and his movement. And
I imagine that the rest of the OGC leadership would
be unanimous in that I would be very shocked to
find much deviation there. But the side forcing out these
Buckley heites is not necessarily good. Like if you look
at Patrick Deneen during the Biden administration, if you can
remember just how totally bleak it was. Patrick Denan was
saying that, like the biggest problem facing America was tyrannophobia.
Like this, this unwarranted fear of tyranny, we just needed,
we needed to accept more of what we typically call
tyranny in the country, might start might start improving. This
was not in or at least as far as I
could tell you know this, this wasn't in preparation of
a Trump admin ISI, especially before the GOP coalesced around Trump. Again,
is I tended to be slated towards DeSantis with the
sort of minority backing Trump at least among the students.
So this is during the Biden Edmund Patrick Deneen wrote
the wrote his very famous book Why Liberalism Failed. He's
a postliberal. As many of the post liberals will tell you,
that doesn't actually mean much. It just means that you're
not an American liberal, which is why you can have
a former president like Barack Obama endorsing his book. It's
why Deneen can go and call for like lbj's policies
on steroids with a with a like Roman Catholic, multi
racial working class coalition. This is what's being pushed. This
is what forced out the Buckleyites. I am very happy
that the Buckleyites are being destroyed at seemingly every turn.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: I think that everyone should be very cautious supporting the
people going against them. I do not think, especially that
heritage Americans, should be supporting someone like Patrick Denen. In fact,
by all indications, it seems that most postliberals are the
ones that call themselves that the Denean types especially just
want to liquidate and destroy Heritage America, but in a
different way than the current regimes are doing. They love
to talk about how they want to just completely demographically
shift the US towards this very strange view of Roman
Catholicism that they have that doesn't seem to be entirely
shared by the rest of the Roman Church. They talk
about how we need to completely destroy any and all
concepts of liberty and freedom. And that's not an exaggeration,
that's not me the libertarian being exaggerative. If I recall correctly,
Denin was talking about how liberty should not be viewed
in a positive light. There are many abuses, of course,
of liberty in the modern day. But if you know
anything about American history, like the history of Heritage Americans,
your history, you would know how absurd and hostile it
is to say that liberty and all of its concepts
is an enemy. That's a This is an extremely Anglo
concept that's being targeted here, and that's not an accident.
So that's the overview. You can read this that's on
the screen. Quite frankly, this is not important. The most
important part was a whole bunch of people gathering around
this sort of post liberal resurgence and somehow thinking that
it's good. I guess if you don't care about heritage
Americans or heritage America, this could be good. I wouldn't know, though,
because that's not me and I don't think like that,
and I haven't even tried to think like that. So
that was That was most of what I wanted to
go through. Hopefully that's clear or it makes some sort
of sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was a pretty exhaustive report for
everyone on all of us. I mean, all this infighting
and all these organizations, all these you know, kN ink
institutions isn't going away anytime soon. So at the very least,
it'll be interesting to see what all the developments are.
Maybe in some places, some people who are more aligned
to us will be taking these things over. Maybe in
some cases it'll be whack jobs. Maybe in some cases
it'll be people who, you know, our enemies of our enemies,
but that doesn't necessarily make them our friends. Who the
hell knows. But I will agree with you Ryan and
saying that I'm glad the Buckley Heights are getting theirs.
At least I could find some consolation in that.
Speaker 2: There is just this somewhere you know, the whole all
of these people. I think heritage is mentioned in here.
They basically what I think they're doing right now is
they're doing their own version of looting the treasury. They
know their days are numbered. They know that when the
boomers die off gen x Is, I mean, we were
raised nihilists. We don't care about them. Gen Z and
the Millennials aren't going to have anything for them because
they've made sure Conservative Bank has made sure that they're broke.
So they either go the way of you know, being
obsolete and disappearing, or you know, as we saw when
Ur in MAZONI had to come had to fly all
the way from Israel to talk to Kevin Roberts because
Kevin Roberts was had lost the plot about how heritage
has to be pro Jewish and not only pro Jewish,
but needs to go after anti Semitism. You're in Mazzoni
had to fly here to help him. The same kind
of language that Michael used and Godfather too about Frank
Panzezeli and then flying his brother in for him, I
mean almost he's the parallels are ridiculous. They I know
that they're either going They're either going to go away,
or they're just going to have to completely rely upon
Jewish money to exist after the boomers are gone. As
far as I'm concerned heritage, it's not an American I mean,
there's nothing heritage about them unless heritage goes back to
nineteen forty eight in a foreign country. These people are
just we have. The founders wrote that we had enemies
foreign and domestic. I don't think they could have ever
guessed that a lot of those enemies were going to
be foreign, but they were going to be domestic too.
We were going to have to deal with domestic foreign
enemies because we can't say no, you can't come here,
you're not like us.
Speaker 1: Indeed, let's tackle these super chats guys and get out
of here. It's been a particularly particularly depressing stream to say,
at least, there's been no good stories tonight, not a
single it's been.
Speaker 2: I mean, for those of us who went to the
Pacific Northwest event, we've had a we had a great
last you know, seven days at least, you know, a
bunch of those days were great. Yeah, as long as
we weren't paying attention to what the hell was going on,
Because I mean, as far as you know, the political
arena goes and Twitter and this government and this regime.
They couldn't make it any more clear that they hate us.
I mean, I'm sorry, that's what Donald Trump made. It
sound like he hates us. So what do we do.
I don't know. I don't want to believe that. But
you know that letter. Yeah, I appreciate him pardoning the
Jay sixers, and you know, especially since they weren't rappers,
they weren't black rappers. That's pretty much who he only pardons.
But when it comes down to it, I don't think
he would write a letter like that for an American
who maybe I don't. I don't even see him an
American being held hostage overseas, going out of his way
to bring them home. No, it just seems like he
has one focus at this point. And like I said,
I was just I would have been perfectly happy if
he would have just been as philo as as philo
semitic is at the proper term something that. Yeah, as
he was in the first in the first term, his
first term. But no, seems like in ten months he's
heaped blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon blessing upon blessing,
upon a foreign country and I'm happy that the border
is closed. Still waiting for them deportations.
Speaker 1: Well, Mark Levin is signing up any day to go
and uh, you know, go work on the border with
all those Ice agents. You know, that's a that's a
war briginning for all this Israel simping. Right, it's good
through these super chats, guys, and get out of here.
Cringe Walker once again sends US five bucks. The Israel
US dynamic really violates the Monroe Doctrine, but nobody talks
about it. Oh, yep, that's obviously true America. One of
America's oldest foreign policy doctrines we've had from almost the beginning,
and yep, flies right in the face of it, especially
when they are trying to invoke it just today to
go and get involved with Venezuela.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and American Spirits will be covering the Monroe
Doctrine and its various interpretations this next Monday, which you
should tune in for. It's much more complicated than just
the US will defend the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 1: There's more to it.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 1: Ryan and Charlie are doing some excellent stuff on American Spirits.
So everybody should be listening in Mikey sends us two bucks.
Putting on the funny hat changes a man I hear,
and not for the better every single time. Yeah, that's
a known anti semi talking right there. Yeah, you know,
really really hateful guy. Pee Budapest for ten bucks. If
I add to sum up twenty twenty five, in one word,
it would be acceleration. I thought it would be defined
by chaos, but I underestimated how much and other factions
were willing to go all in. There's certainly a lot
to be said.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the definitely the acceleration on the people noticing
our greatest ally is I mean, we're talking about warp
speed at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely that. And then there's also the just
the acceleration of just violence against right wingers, and it's
only gonna get worse. Not grim for two bucks, elite
theory for the plubs blood satellite. All right, we'll go
tune in over there air make discourse for five bucks.
I prefer the term pharisee for these people more accurate
in my opinion. Yeah, I guess it's fair. Pete Budapest
for five bucks. How grim is Trump? Two point zero
going well. Nicky Haley this week said that Trump's plan
I'm bringing in more foreign students in h one B's
might be a tad bit too far. Yeah, I mean,
well everybody else. Here's the other thing, too, is like
everybody can see that the base is divided over this
and is riled up about this, and people smell blood
in the water, and it kind of just shows you
who are the actual like cunning politicians and who are
the ones that have their thumbs up their ass. Well,
it's like I have no love for Nicki Haley. I
have no love for this Democratic governor in Ohio, or
Democratic candidate in Ohio, i should say, or all these
other politicians who've been flanking Trump to the right on this.
But well, it just goes to show you.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I remember when people would call Trump
a fascist and a Nazi and everything, and some people
would go, oh, come on, he's just a Democrat from Queens.
He didn't really have to go and prove that to us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hunter counts for twenty bucks, Thank you very much, sir.
I see another angle to the net and Yahoo pardon.
He has kept Israel in constant war in part because
it's the only way he stays out of prison. That's
obviously true. A promise of a pardon coupled with some
applied pressure could be enough to get him to step
down be replaced, hopefully with someone more sensible. Still turns
my stomach, though, why are we playing like six degrees
of Kevin Bacon here on with this? At this point? Man,
it's like, this is just this is just fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But you don't hard liners. It's the hardliners that are
waiting for him to leave so that they can continue
their errors Israel project. There are people who are like Na,
who's just not going far enough, and those are the
people waiting to take over.
Speaker 1: Again. It's just like people just need to get it
through their thick heads.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: It's like we are on our own. We are Americans
for an American nation. Only us. It's all we need
and we're all we have. This nonsense of like you know,
like wouldjuws you win? Stuff just needs to be entirely
rejected outright. Just just look at this fucking behavior. Man.
It's like even if they were going to magically help
us or something and get us out of all these
problems by associating with Israel and these people. It's like,
is it worth the cost of our souls at this
point to be doing this kind of behavior which isn't
going to get us what we want anyway. I mean,
I said it before and I'll say it again. That
letter right there is just literally one step away from
literally just getting on your hands and knees and sucking
his cock.
Speaker 2: It's just totally.
Speaker 1: Unacceptable behavior for people to be having. It's like, have
some fucking dignity and some backbone for the United States
of America fucking act like it. Everybody else just bosses
us the fuck around. It's like that tweet earlier, it's like,
oh yeah, we think we're really respected and revered on
the world stage. It's like, get a fucking break, dude.
Everyone's laughing at us. Everyone thinks we're rubes, absolute idiots.
We pay every single Tom, Dick and Harry who steps
on foot of this country, aside from our own fucking people.
We're getting dragged around by a country the size of
New Jersey to go fight all their wars for them.
This country is a fucking joke, man, Jeremy Currents for
five bucks, what is up? My pig is be buddapest
for ten America in twenty twenty five. Resembles that's seen
in Mars Attacks with the veiling adans chasing people with
the faulty translation machine saying don't run, we're your friends.
Speaker 2: I can go back and watch that movie. I remember
really liking that movie when it came out.
Speaker 1: Blood Based sends us twenty bucks. Thank you very much,
Jeremy Kerns for the ten bucks. Trying to start a
OGC chapter in Arizona. Is there anyone I can get
in contact with? There is? Send us an email over
at OGC or bild Glory Club at gmail dot com.
Put you in contact with people, and again for five bucks,
he says, I really want to throw clipped quarters at
dave Portnite right now. Who's going to join me? Yep?
Well that's it for the super chatspe Well, we got
one more coming in right at the wire room for
five bucks. Despite the bleakness of the situation, I hope
this lets us know that we're all we've got, We've
got each other, and that's something that counts. Hell, yeah,
and listen here, we've done a lot of Yeah, we
tackled some very hard hitting stories here tonight. All right,
but again it's very important to remember, is that not
only are we all we have, but more importantly, we're
all that we need. Man, It's like Americans are the best,
most ingenious, most kind, most hardworking people on the entire planet.
We are all we need. We don't need anybody else.
We don't need other countries, we don't need other people's labor,
don't need other people's talent. We have us and all
we need is just to cast off these parasites and
grifters and liars and cheats from our politics and get
a hold on our own nation and we will thrive
and we will prosper and everyone else can get fucked. Pete,
what do you got going on this week?
Speaker 2: I just dropped episode twelve ninety two called where Are
the Blessings? It's my own version of a fireside chat.
So go listen to me rants and ask a lot
of questions for about sixty minutes. So yeah, that's about it.
Join the OGC of course you're.
Speaker 1: Here, mister turnip Seed. Thank you for coming on the
show tonight. My friend, what do you have to promote?
Speaker 6: Sir?
Speaker 3: Well, every Monday, at the same time that a Tony
Express starts be seventh Central or eight Eastern, we host
American Spirits Charlie and I do where we tried to
go through the history of heritage America political theories that
we need to understand the things, and I'm sure pretty
soon we'll be talking about actually applying some of it
or even some of the more philosophical aspects. But the
important points is that two weeks ago, two weeks ago
from this Monday, and in fact our our other co
panelists who Pete was on for this, it was American
Spirits on Murray Rothbard's Betrayal of the American Right. We
had Tom Woods Ona Uh. Just a few days ago
on Monday, it was me, Stephen Carson and mister Auberon
Quinn going over Pat Buchanan's very famous and the frankly
seminal article at this point for how how good it
is whose war talking about interests.
Speaker 2: That's an excellent episode, man, that was a really good episode.
Speaker 3: Thank you. I felt perhaps the best on it. So
it's my own personal favorite. But everyone in the in
the chat right now or everyone rather watching the stream
should probably go and watch it because we go through
the entirety of the article and it's just a wealth
of information from Pat Buchanan, So National Hero. This next Monday,
we'll be going over the Monroe Doctrine, which, like the
last two episodes, we have had all of this planned
like a month in advance, and just like the week
before we go live, the topic comes up in popular discourse.
So if you want to know about the Monroe Doctrine,
like what did Monroe actually say and has addressed to Congress,
how is it reinterpreted by President Polk how is it
then further reinterpreted after the Civil Wars, that's what you
want to go listen to, because and I'll give you
this free before the before the stream, the Monroe Doctrine
does not say like that the United States just gets
to rule and police the entire Western hemisphere. If you
just read it strictly, it's not a guarantee that American men,
money and all that we hold deer goes towards defending
Latin America or something like that. So that's what we
have in American Spirits. Make sure keep watching it. We
put a lot of work into it. It's very based
on the text. So if you want something higher in
your podcast, of course you would have a Peach Show
which is fantastic as well, but also American Spirits. Go
and make sure to listen to that.
Speaker 1: Alrighty, yes, so I enjoyed that Tom Woods episode. It
was fantastic. Everyone be sure to check out American Spirits
for myself. On next Wednesday, I will be appearing on
the Green Tavern with the Daniel Green Society, so everyone
be sure to tune into that. That's gonna be next Wednesday.
And then in the future as well, there are talks
for me doing some more shows with friends of ours
Kyle Ltovic, and I are due for a stream coming
up pretty soon, so I'll be on the look out
for that, and also I might be resuming my Sunday
gaming on my channel. It just something for me to
do for a couple of hours on a Sunday, So
take a look at that. And we will be back
here next week for another episode of Pony Express Radio.
We'll see you guys then.
Speaker 2: When I pass on my good jeans to my sons,
they're going to join the Old Glory Club.