1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:27,359 Speaker 1: You're listening to Petlifradio dot com. 2 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Ask the Bets with Doctor Jeff. 3 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,439 Speaker 3: You're on pet Life Radio. 4 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: We are a live radio show, a call in show, 5 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,320 which means call in implies. Yes, I want to hear 6 00:00:40,359 --> 00:00:43,439 from you, and you can easily reach me. I'm your host, 7 00:00:43,439 --> 00:00:46,880 Doctor Jeff Werber, and call me eight seven seven three 8 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,840 eight five eight eight eight two once again eight seven 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,920 seven three eight five eight eight eight two. You can 10 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,399 also just log on to us here at pet Life 11 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:57,240 Radio and you can just type in your question. If 12 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,119 you're shy or as I've got a couple of emails 13 00:01:00,119 --> 00:01:01,560 we're going to share with you on this show and 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,640 the next week's show, you can just send me an 15 00:01:03,679 --> 00:01:07,640 email to doctor Jeff, Drjeff at petlife Radio dot com 16 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,920 or Drjeff at Drjeff dot com. Either way, I will 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,239 get your questions and do my best to answer them. 18 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:17,879 My thing, my bag, my love is dogg and cat. However, 19 00:01:18,239 --> 00:01:21,560 I am sort of tinkering in this profession for a 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,799 mere thirty years. 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: I have enough wonderful colleague. 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: So if you have a question about an exotic or 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,400 some a usual animal or one case I was asked 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,920 a question about an egg laying chicken. I will get 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,480 the answer for you, even if I don't know it offhand, 26 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:39,680 So go ahead and send me anything you want. And anyway, 27 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,280 it's great being here with you, and I love talking pets, 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,079 and that's why this is such a great opportunity for me. 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,079 I'll be actually the next couple of weeks I am leaving, 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,159 I've been invited to speak, which. 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: Is really really cool. 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:57,239 Speaker 2: Two conferences in Europe, and it just so happens a 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,319 week apart from each other, so it's none of these 34 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:01,879 going back and forth. I get to go to London 35 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,560 speaking at the London Vet Forum, and then we'll have 36 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:09,360 I'll have a few days in between and then it's off. 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,960 So we're going to go to Italy and then off 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,680 to Barcelona for the Southern European Veterinary Conference, and boy 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,319 do they have me busy. I'm going to be speaking 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,800 I think five sessions five hours in Barcelona in the 41 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,360 management section and on the London VET Forum. I think 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,360 it's me and one another doc and that's it. 43 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: So that's pretty. 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,759 Speaker 2: Cool, and so I will be hopefully seeing what veterant 45 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:36,240 medicine is like in other parts of the world. I 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,080 can imagine that London is going to be very similar 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,960 to the US because I have, you know, going through training, 48 00:02:43,319 --> 00:02:46,080 I have met a number of English and Irish veterinarians. 49 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,879 Speaker 3: Actually, one of my former. 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: Associates was educated in Scotland, and I said, why Scotland? 51 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,719 And interestingly she did not get into the VET school 52 00:02:56,759 --> 00:02:59,039 of her choice here in the States, which was the 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,120 least expensive for her was her own state school, so 54 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,400 instead of going to some other schools that she did 55 00:03:04,439 --> 00:03:07,280 get into, which were private and much more expensive, she 56 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:11,599 said it actually saved her, including trips back and forth 57 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,439 to the US, about ten to twelve thousand dollars a 58 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,360 year by going to school in Scotland. And I can't 59 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:22,360 argue with that. The education there is amazing and their 60 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,479 schools are credited in the US. So I think that 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,400 was a pretty smart movement, just to you know, give 62 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:29,560 an opportunity to go to school in a foreign land, 63 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,479 so to speak, and a foreign land that unless they 64 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:38,479 speak extremely extremely quickly, you can actually understand the professors. 65 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,479 So I think that's pretty cool. So yesterday I take 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 the piece here at my office and we were doing 67 00:03:46,159 --> 00:03:50,280 a segment for plastic surgery for pets, that seems. You know, 68 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:52,479 a lot of times I'm an opportunity to pitch our 69 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,240 local media or some national shows kind of about what's 70 00:03:55,319 --> 00:03:57,599 up and coming. I mean, for example, you can imagine 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,520 that this time of year, I'm doing a lot of 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,719 pitching or the holidays, holiday hazards, you know, starting with Halloween, 73 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,960 going into Thanksgiving, Conica, Christmas, just all the potential opportunities 74 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,159 that our pets have to get themselves into trouble, whether 75 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:15,919 it's food, whether it's decorations, whether it's candy. 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: And I get so. 77 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,519 Speaker 2: Upset when they eat all that chocolate and they don't 78 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:20,639 save any from me. That's when I have I'm telling 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,000 my relationship with those pats. That's it if they don't 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,319 save me any of that great chalk that I'm a chocoholic. 81 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:28,279 But one of the segments I pitch and it seems 82 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:30,720 to really get a lot of attention, is the plastic 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,279 surgery piece. So I had a talk from one of 84 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:35,920 the rescues. It was a chow chow, and chows are 85 00:04:35,959 --> 00:04:39,639 notorious for having this problem with their eyes called entropy 86 00:04:39,639 --> 00:04:42,560 on We've talked about it before where the eyelids sort 87 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,399 of roll inward and they start rubbing against the eyeball itself, 88 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:50,720 causing a lot of irritation, a lot of discomfort, a 89 00:04:50,759 --> 00:04:54,560 lot of ocular discharge, ocular redness. I mean, it is 90 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,199 really sad. And what's so sad about it is it 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,600 is so easily correctable. In fact, you know what I'm 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,639 gonna do is I took some pictures and I'm going 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,120 to show some pre before and after pictures. Dog's name 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,480 is Rosy and they could not adopt her out until 95 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,600 this was fixed. So on the one hand, I'm trying 96 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:14,720 to get the surgery done because I want Tod opt out. 97 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:16,519 The other hand, I want to take advantage of this 98 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:19,360 because I've been getting so much interest in this whole 99 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:23,040 concept of plastic slash reconstructive surgery for pets. I needed 100 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:25,480 to wait for camera crew, so we kept her very 101 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,399 comfortable and we did the surgery yesterday. I'm telling you, 102 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,680 she looks great. It's amazing. In one day, you could 103 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,959 see the difference in this dog. 104 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: I mean she is. I mean, she was a really 105 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:35,600 sweet chow chow. 106 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: Anyway, I know that sort of doesn't make sense to 107 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,319 a lot of you that have had that have dealt 108 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,600 with chow chow's To use the word sweet and chow 109 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,639 chow is rarely in the same sentence. But this dog 110 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,920 right now is so sweet. That's how I think uncomfortable. 111 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,680 Her eyes were so Anyway, I'll get to before and 112 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,600 we're going to post them at the website here at 113 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,959 pel Life Radio that before and after pictures on my 114 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,040 show on her astaveets with doctor Jeff and it's about 115 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Rosie the che So anyway, we want to share with 116 00:06:02,759 --> 00:06:07,759 you an email and it is interestingly if regarding a 117 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,800 shar Pei, which I mean it's like a close first 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,160 cousin as far as problems with the chow chow. Sharpeys, 119 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:16,600 by the way, another breed that typically has a lot 120 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:19,959 of problems with chopion with another problem we often have 121 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,920 to correct called skinfold piodermisos or infections deep within the 122 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:27,759 skin folds. And of course shar Pays are notorious for 123 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,079 the skin folds, so we see a lot of sharpays. 124 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,040 So anyway, we have a four year old Sharpei mix. 125 00:06:32,199 --> 00:06:34,800 He always had a problem keeping down the food he eats. 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,600 We moderate the amount and speed that he eats, and 127 00:06:37,639 --> 00:06:39,480 at least once to twice a week he throws up 128 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,160 the entire meal. He is underweight and we have taken 129 00:06:42,199 --> 00:06:44,519 him to the vet regularly since we've had him. They 130 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:46,279 gave us a special food to mix in with his 131 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:48,759 regular food to help him gain some weight. Do you 132 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,800 have any suggestions or tips? Well, this is from Adam, 133 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,480 and as Adam tell us where he's from, No, he doesn't, 134 00:06:54,519 --> 00:06:57,480 but Adam just to share some ideas with you. First 135 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:00,519 of all, when it's infrequent like this, I believe there 136 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,600 is some sort of inflammatory condition going on. And the 137 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,000 reason I say this is vomiting once or twice a week, 138 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,959 even if it's the entire meal, is not going to 139 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,000 lead to weight loss. 140 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:12,639 Speaker 3: It's just not. 141 00:07:12,959 --> 00:07:15,639 Speaker 2: That's like us skipping a meal twice a week. Trust me, 142 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 we'd love it to cause weight loss, but that by 143 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,160 itself is not going to do it. So there is 144 00:07:20,199 --> 00:07:22,720 something else going on here, and one of my concerns 145 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:27,759 is some sort of inflammatory condition going on with this dog. 146 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,439 And another thing it can be, believe it or not, 147 00:07:31,079 --> 00:07:35,319 is food allergy. Now, typically dogs that are food allergic 148 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,680 will rub it their face, will get ear infections, scratched 149 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,519 at their ears, and often chew on their feet. So 150 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,160 if you have a dog that is just going to 151 00:07:44,199 --> 00:07:47,000 their feet NonStop, or rubbing their face on the carpet 152 00:07:47,079 --> 00:07:49,560 or along a wall, or scratching out their ears a lot, 153 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,480 or getting persistent ear infections. One of the things you 154 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,040 need to put on your list of possibilities is food allergy, 155 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,920 but also dogs that seem to just vomit out of 156 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,879 the blue or with on a regular basis, where there's 157 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,360 some schedules, some consistency. Again, you have to think of 158 00:08:07,519 --> 00:08:11,439 food allergy, so that's again something to consider. So I 159 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:13,560 would do a few things. So number one is you 160 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,560 want to work with your veterinarian about a food elimination diet. 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,600 But truly, if this isn't going on a while already, 162 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:23,839 I do believe that if assuming everything else is normal, 163 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,079 assuming the blood test is normal, X rays, palpation, everything 164 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:31,399 else seems okay, I think that your dog might be 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,039 good candidate for a scope and biopsy. And one of 166 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,840 the areas that needs to be looked at is the pylorus. 167 00:08:40,279 --> 00:08:44,240 The pylorus is what we call the gastric outflow tract. 168 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,600 That's where food comes in via the esophagus goes through 169 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,000 the cardia of the stomach, aptly named because it's around 170 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,399 where the area of the heart is and that's where 171 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,279 the esophagus goes into the stomach. Then you go into 172 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,039 the stomach itself and out of the outflow tract. As 173 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,399 the stomach proceeds, the ingesta proceeds into the small bowel, 174 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,679 the small intestine, and we call that the pylorus. And 175 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:13,519 if there is a pyloric stenosis, and that is a 176 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,440 narrowing of the pylorus, and this is something that could 177 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,799 be determined via a scope, then there are some things 178 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:21,519 that can be done. 179 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,759 Speaker 3: To relieve that obstruction. 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,279 Speaker 2: Another thing that the interness would do who does this study, 181 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,480 or your veterinarian, if your veterinarian has an endoscope, is 182 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:34,960 to take samples of the stomach, random samples inside the stomach, 183 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,519 and that's looking for some sort of inflammatory condition. We 184 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,120 call it an infiltrative disease. Whether we're looking at asenophilic gastritis, 185 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:51,120 lymphastic plasmasidic gastritis, these are the inflammations of the stomach. 186 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,440 Thus the word gastritis itis meaning inflammation and its cell 187 00:09:55,519 --> 00:09:58,320 type often indicates what the cause might be. And this 188 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,960 is something that is definitely treatable. So I think that 189 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,440 if this is once or twice never happened again. I'd say, 190 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,480 you know what, he ate something, leave it alone. Not 191 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,759 to panic by the fact that this is going on 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,720 for a while. The dog is four and is losing weight. 193 00:10:12,039 --> 00:10:15,519 There is something going on and it needs to be discovered. 194 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:17,759 We need to determine what is going on. So those 195 00:10:17,759 --> 00:10:21,200 would be my recommendations. If this were a newer problem 196 00:10:21,519 --> 00:10:24,399 and early on in the game, all else being equal, 197 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,480 you could start with the food elimination diet first and 198 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,159 see how that goes. And if that works, the great 199 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:32,120 You save yourself a. 200 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:32,639 Speaker 3: Lot of money. 201 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: Didn't have to put the dog through any anesthesia or procedures. 202 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:40,399 But given the fact that it's been going on long 203 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,679 enough that there's persistent weight loss, I am concerned other 204 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,000 things that might help, some probiotics, maybe some softer food. 205 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:50,519 But when it comes to pylorstonosays, I would just do 206 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,519 it right, and the right way to do it is 207 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,200 the scope and the biopsy. So also make sure that 208 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,799 there's obviously nothing else at this dog. I mean simply 209 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,600 that the dog is chewing on as far as toys, rawhide, bones, 210 00:11:03,919 --> 00:11:05,879 anything that might be missing. You know, some dogs have 211 00:11:05,919 --> 00:11:08,200 an affinity for certain things and it can be as 212 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,360 simple as a particular treat that he or she is 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,919 chewing on. In this case it's a heat, so just 214 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,080 for complete the sake. But anyway, Adam, if you have 215 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,919 any questions specifically and you would like to ask, you 216 00:11:20,919 --> 00:11:23,799 can go ahead and send them to me directly at 217 00:11:23,919 --> 00:11:28,879 DRGEF at drgef dot com or DRGF at petliferadio dot com. 218 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,799 Or if you get up the courage and you want 219 00:11:30,799 --> 00:11:32,919 to follow up with us, give us a call. And 220 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,720 you know that's easier said than done, but not easy. 221 00:11:35,759 --> 00:11:37,879 That is as easy it is to do, and that 222 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,799 is at eight seven seven three eight five eight eight 223 00:11:40,879 --> 00:11:43,159 eight two. We would love to hear from you. Take 224 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:46,639 your call, share it with our listeners. And you know, interestingly, 225 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,240 what most people don't realize is you think you're the 226 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:54,480 only one with this question, this problem. Doubtful, really doubtful. 227 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:57,440 Most of the things that we encounter and practice. I 228 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,000 like to make the differentiation between the horse and the zebra. 229 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,639 Those of you that have been listening, no, I often 230 00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:04,799 refer to this distinction. 231 00:12:04,399 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: And that is my little saying, my little riddle. 232 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,879 Speaker 2: If you are running along the beach in Malibu and 233 00:12:09,919 --> 00:12:12,600 you hear hoof beats chasing you from behind? What are 234 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,200 you thinking? Horses or zebras, and of course the answers horses. 235 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,919 So many the problems that you were having on a 236 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,840 day to day basis with your pets, they are fairly common, 237 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,759 and we've seen them hundreds of times before, thousands of 238 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:29,399 times before, and the solutions are fairly straightforward. Occasionally we're 239 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,559 going to be faced with but I like to call 240 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,679 it a zebra, which is that very unusual case? 241 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: The fact it was funny. 242 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,399 Speaker 2: I'm working a case up right now with my favorite 243 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,240 internest in town. So he had called me and he 244 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:45,000 saw something very very bizarre on his ultrasound. So he's 245 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:47,720 describing it to me, and I said, I said, so, Dave, 246 00:12:47,759 --> 00:12:49,320 what are your thoughts? What do you think is going on? 247 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,759 He goes, Jeff, how do you think? 248 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,279 Speaker 3: I know? I think I've seen this twice in my 249 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,799 twenty plus years. He had no idea. 250 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: And when a GP sent a case to a specialist, 251 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,720 in this case, internal medicine specialist and stumps that specialist, 252 00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:07,200 you gotta know you're dealing with a very very challenging case. Anyway, 253 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,759 we're gonna take a quick break here. I want you 254 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,480 to thanks for listening to us here at Ask the 255 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,320 Best with doctor Jeff here on Pet Life Radio. I 256 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,799 want to take our sponsors of course, pro Sense pet products. 257 00:13:17,159 --> 00:13:19,519 You can get them at your local retailers like Walmart 258 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,639 and go on Walmart dot com. 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They can be traveling out in 287 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,000 the world, trips or inner journeys where our animals lead 288 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,799 us to inspiration and self discovery, or just playing fun adventures. 289 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,879 Join us here on pet Life Radio on a Super 290 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:24,000 Smiley Adventure. 291 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: Good boy, let's talk past. 292 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:32,759 Speaker 4: Let's come past about Life. 293 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Radio, Hetline Radio, Petlife Radio dot. 294 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: Com and welcome back to Ask the Best Fook Doctor. 295 00:15:56,279 --> 00:15:58,759 Jeff I am your host for this half hour. Half 296 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,399 of it gone already at I asked the Bee's with 297 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,320 me eight seven seven three eight five eight eight eight 298 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:08,519 two once again eight seven seven three eight five eighty 299 00:16:08,559 --> 00:16:10,559 a two. You know, I know there are a lot 300 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,399 of you out there. We can tell from emails. We 301 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:16,360 can we know our listenership, and I am so amazed 302 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:18,200 that there's so many of you that are afraid to 303 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,320 pick up the phone and share with us your questions, 304 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,720 your comments, you're concerns with your pets. I know you 305 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:28,399 wouldn't be listening to us here on our station if 306 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,480 you didn't have some issues with your pets and you 307 00:16:30,519 --> 00:16:33,320 wanted more information. What better way to get information when 308 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,519 it's free. I like that commercial for the Mattress store. 309 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: It's free, Larry, It's free. 310 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, come on and give us a call. We'd 311 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:43,919 love to hear from you. Or while I'm here talking 312 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,480 to you live live at four o'clock eastern one o'clock 313 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:50,600 Pacific time, you can send me a quick little note 314 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,039 at doctor Jeff at Petlife Radio dot com and we 315 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,320 will answer you live. So we talked about the pack 316 00:16:57,399 --> 00:16:59,559 surgery again. I want to thank our sponsors. I don't 317 00:16:59,559 --> 00:17:02,200 think I do enough pro sense pet products and the 318 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,599 great retailers that carry their products. I tell you we're 319 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:06,759 in a lot of places and actually look pretty soon 320 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,160 look for our new logos. We have new packaging and 321 00:17:10,279 --> 00:17:12,039 it's really really sharp looking. 322 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:12,839 Speaker 3: It's really cool. 323 00:17:13,079 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: So and we basically I'm trying to bring veterinary quality 324 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,519 products to you the consumer at mass market pricing. So 325 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,000 some of the products that we have you can only 326 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:25,759 get either at these through this line through pro Sense 327 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:28,640 pet or at your veterinarian probably a little bit more 328 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,000 expensive than the pro Sense products you're going to find 329 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,519 at the retailer. So you know, help yourself go in 330 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:36,400 if you need anything. And by the way, I should 331 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,160 I should reiterate and Adam who sent us that email. 332 00:17:39,599 --> 00:17:42,119 In fact, Adam, you need to contact us again because 333 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,640 we want to get information from you. But those of 334 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:49,400 you who contact us via note message here live on 335 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,000 the show, via email, or best yet a phone call 336 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,319 it to eight seven seven three eight five eight eight 337 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,119 A two, we will send you some free product here 338 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,519 from pro Sense product. 339 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: So now you can't be that free is good. We 340 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:03,599 like free. 341 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:06,279 Speaker 2: So while you guys are getting the courage to talk 342 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:09,279 to me live and I don't know, I'm pretty approachable, 343 00:18:09,279 --> 00:18:12,599 I'm pretty easy. I wanted to share with you some 344 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,960 of the questions I get on a regular basis, and 345 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,279 this one actually came or is coming from one of 346 00:18:18,279 --> 00:18:24,160 my employees, and basically she had rescued a pitbull one 347 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,000 of the we work with two well, we work with 348 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,920 about a dozen rescue groups, but two of them seem 349 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,200 to specialize in pitbulls, so they are as we all know, 350 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,599 anyone of you listening who has a pit bull or 351 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,599 a pitbull cross, whether it's an American bull, a pitbull, whatever, 352 00:18:39,839 --> 00:18:43,200 we'll understand how great these dogs are. But this question 353 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:45,680 is coming from one of my employees about how to 354 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:50,680 deal with hey pitbull or really any dog that wants 355 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,039 it's perfect with people that wants to literally tear the 356 00:18:54,079 --> 00:18:56,880 head off of any other dog that it sees, and 357 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:00,240 what can be done. So the best thing to do is, 358 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,720 first of all, when it comes to training, we call 359 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,880 it behavior modification. We are trying to accomplish two things. 360 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:10,440 Number One, we want to desensitize the dog to whatever 361 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,759 the stimulus is. And not only we don't want to 362 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:15,759 stop there. We don't want to just desensitize. We actually 363 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:19,440 want to counter condition. We want to take that stimulus. 364 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,160 In this case, another dog, which right now is stimulating 365 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,799 an aggression, aggressive behavior from the dog, and we want 366 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:31,480 to turn that into something fun, something positive, something where 367 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,799 this nasty, aggressive dog instead of wanting to kill this 368 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,559 other dog, it wants to play with this other dog. 369 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,319 So sounds pretty good. Well, first of all, it can 370 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,440 be done. It's not easy. Anytime we're dealing with behavior modification. 371 00:19:47,799 --> 00:19:51,119 You have to take baby steps. They're small steps and 372 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,680 all centered around positive reward. Now, one of the good 373 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,160 things about a pitbull is that any of us that 374 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,039 have them know how much they first of all love you, 375 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,319 but most of them actually love people. And as a 376 00:20:05,319 --> 00:20:07,400 matter of fact, it saddens me that they've gotten to 377 00:20:07,519 --> 00:20:11,759 better wrap because back in the day when dog fighting 378 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,680 was you know it sounds so scary to say, was 379 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,440 considered a gentlemanly sport. This is back in the United 380 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:20,720 Kingdom in the eighteen hundreds, that these dogs were bred 381 00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:23,279 to fight each other. As a matter of fact, that 382 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,319 in the fight in the rings, so to say, are 383 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,559 in the pit, there was actually always a person if 384 00:20:27,559 --> 00:20:29,759 you were if you will, you can probably call them 385 00:20:29,839 --> 00:20:33,480 like the referee, the umpire, and if any dog ever 386 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,960 exhibited any signs of aggression to that person, those dogs 387 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,599 were taken out and they were killed. So aggressive behavior 388 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,000 towards people was absolutely not tolerated within the breed. So 389 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:47,480 therefore you can imagine why it upsets so many of 390 00:20:47,559 --> 00:20:49,880 us when we hear these stories about these pit bulls 391 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,920 running on, you know, loose and attacking people. This is 392 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,319 not their nature. Their nature is actually they love people. 393 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,640 Now wanted to fight other dogs. Oh, absolutely, having jaws 394 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,720 that can clamp down and don't let go, that's the 395 00:21:01,759 --> 00:21:05,359 pit bull, but not showing signs of aggression towards people. 396 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:07,640 So one of the things you want to do is 397 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,759 in most behaviors that we see in dogs, objectional behaviors, 398 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:16,279 good behaviors, there seems to be a threshold beyond which 399 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,920 longer than which the dog doesn't seem to care. So 400 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:24,039 let's say, for example, with this particular dog, the threshold 401 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,799 is three blocks. In other words, if there's a dog 402 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,119 over three blocks away, your dog is fine. And yet 403 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,079 if you go to two blocks away, oh my god, 404 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,079 the dog is now pulling on the leash. The hair 405 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,039 and the hackles are coming up, the years are going back. 406 00:21:36,079 --> 00:21:39,039 He's taking that stance. You know, he wants after that dog. 407 00:21:39,279 --> 00:21:42,440 So our job is to First of all, identify what 408 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,319 that threshold is. When you see that threshold, all right, 409 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,640 then what you can do is you can start backing 410 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,759 off and get your dog's attention, ask your dog to sit, 411 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,599 do something to earn a reward. You never want to 412 00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:57,400 give a reward just for the heck of it. And 413 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,240 then when he's a good dog and he sits, you 414 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,599 give him a treat. And now here's the key. You 415 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,200 could see make a comment like, oh look at that 416 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,559 a friend. There's a friend, good boy, and give them 417 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:11,119 a treat. And now walk away opposite direction, make the 418 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,440 first right, turn, the left, turn down a different street. 419 00:22:13,839 --> 00:22:16,920 Don't get any closer than that threshold. But now what 420 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,119 you're doing is you're starting to set the tone that 421 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,839 this other animal three blocks away is good and is 422 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,559 going to be giving a treat getting a treat because 423 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,400 of that other dog. So what you do is, every 424 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,599 day you're out on your walk, you are going to 425 00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:35,880 wait an extra ten to fifteen feet before you say 426 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,240 to your dog, oh my god, look at that a friend. 427 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:41,440 And you are actually going to go looking placebook where 428 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,079 you're going to see other dogs, but at beginning at 429 00:22:43,079 --> 00:22:43,559 a distance. 430 00:22:43,759 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: And then as you. 431 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: Get closer and closer. You're always going to go through 432 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,400 the same routine. The goal is that you want your 433 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,960 dog not only to want to attack another dog, but 434 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,640 actually wants to play look for other dogs. So hold 435 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,400 on a secon Is that Adam? Are you on the line? 436 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:02,559 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is Adam. 437 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: Hey, Adam, how are you? I'm good good. 438 00:23:05,279 --> 00:23:07,279 Speaker 2: So I'm just curious. Did you have any of these 439 00:23:07,279 --> 00:23:10,319 things I talked about? Answered yet? Was it a biopsy? 440 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Was a scoping done? Did you try a food elimination 441 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,680 die at a trial where you eliminate all of the 442 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359 common antigens from the food for your shar pei? 443 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,559 Speaker 7: We did. I haven't been living with him for that long. 444 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:25,160 It's been about a year, and they did try a 445 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,640 whole bunch of things and it still happens with him. 446 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 6: I know. 447 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,559 Speaker 7: We have him on a special diet, special food that 448 00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:31,920 he eats right now, all right? 449 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,319 Speaker 3: Did so? 450 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:35,039 Speaker 2: No? One did assetize him and did the scope and 451 00:23:35,079 --> 00:23:38,880 got some biopsy samples and looked at the pilot that 452 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:40,240 they did do that, and what did that? 453 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: Show? Did that so normal? 454 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,519 Speaker 7: Yeah? Show normal? 455 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 2: That's unusual that it's not going to be a mechanical obstruction, 456 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:48,880 meaning the pyloric problem. It's not going to be an 457 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,160 inflammatory obstruction, meaning inflammatory bowel disease, inflammatory gastritis. And the 458 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,640 vomiting doesn't bother me as much as the weight loss, 459 00:23:56,839 --> 00:23:59,400 because if, as you said, there's vomiting every now and 460 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,799 again and everything else is perfect, we look at it. 461 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,079 Something he ate, maybe a little bit of food allergy, 462 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,920 but it would be unusual to have weight loss that 463 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,279 tells me that something's been gone for way too long 464 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:12,799 and we're not getting resolved. Has anyone tried like a 465 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:14,799 course of steroids. 466 00:24:15,079 --> 00:24:17,039 Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I have to look into that. Yeah, 467 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,240 I'm not that he's losing any more weight. 468 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:21,559 Speaker 3: He just okay, so right now, he's just not gaining. 469 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,279 Speaker 7: He's not gaining. He just looks really not overleasin. But 470 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,720 you can see like his ribs and he eats food 471 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,759 and as soon as he's done, sometimes the entire meal 472 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,519 comes out on the floor in one blob. 473 00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: Now let me ask another question then, and this is 474 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,720 kind of a weird one, and I hate to be 475 00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,359 graphic for all our listeners out there, but when he 476 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,160 does that, does he kind of just open his mouth 477 00:24:41,279 --> 00:24:43,680 and out it comes, or does he go through the 478 00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:47,880 whole heaving process before the vomits, before the food comes out. 479 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,799 Speaker 7: It usually is about ten seconds. You might hear one 480 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 or two noises and that sometimes you hear nothing and. 481 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: Okay, on the floor. 482 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: Let me give you one other thing to think about, 483 00:24:58,319 --> 00:25:02,319 and that is a condition called mega esophagus, and it's 484 00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:04,880 something you might want to have checked out as well. 485 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,759 When it can be done in a number of ways. 486 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:08,920 First of all, sometimes you're lucky enough to come up 487 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,279 with a pretty good diagnosis simply on X ray. Otherwise 488 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:15,519 we do what's called a barium swallow, and if there 489 00:25:15,599 --> 00:25:20,200 is megaesophagus, then that ingesta that barium sits there almost 490 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,559 like a sack. The esophagus is so stretched out that 491 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,960 there's a sack and that's where the food sits. And 492 00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:30,000 usually dogs that regurgitate as opposed to vomit, one of 493 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:32,960 the things we think about is megaesophagus. Regurgitation is where 494 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,359 they will just kind of open their mouth and it's. 495 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: Just there and that's what happens. It just comes up. 496 00:25:38,039 --> 00:25:42,319 Speaker 2: And then sometimes with megaesophagus there's a problem where there 497 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,960 is a condition that is called myasthenia gravis. And many 498 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,640 dogs with myesthenia do have megaesophagus, so that's something that 499 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,839 should be looked at as well. So you might want 500 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,680 to talk to your veterinarian and see if any of 501 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,559 those things are The prior owner may have had a 502 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,480 chance to work with that as well to see. Okay, okay, 503 00:26:00,599 --> 00:26:03,200 so anyway, yeah, please and make sure you leave your 504 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,359 information because we'll get you out some product. 505 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:07,519 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right, that'd be great. 506 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 7: I appreciate it. 507 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, Adam, thanks for calling in so 508 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,119 thank well, You're very welcome. So our time is up 509 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,519 here for the show where we're going to finish this 510 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,759 whole story. This is very important on the training of 511 00:26:19,839 --> 00:26:23,720 how to get these dogs to actually possibly hopefully like 512 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:24,920 other dogs. 513 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,039 Speaker 3: So we are going to sign off. Our time is on. 514 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,400 It goes so fast, but I want to thank our 515 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,000 sponsors prot and Teed Products. 516 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: You can get my stuff at at your local Walmart 517 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:36,640 or Target. 518 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,279 Speaker 3: And we will be here. 519 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: Next week to talk more about pets. Thanks for joining 520 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,359 me on doctor Jeff Berber here on pet Life Radio. 521 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,279 Speaker 1: Let's talk pets every week on demand only on petlight 522 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:57,000 radio dot com.