Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus quice you bick Hello, get
Speaker 1: somebody out here.
Speaker 2: What quent on out there?
Speaker 1: It's thought of a bit just about ticking fort nine?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Easy him out there, yeah right.
Speaker 2: Hey, greetings spread Alaska. Thanks for joining me. Some quick
Speaker 2: updates here Packson Lake. There was recent reports the trailer
Speaker 2: on the west side of the lake. Some people were
Speaker 2: paced out, a lot of weird noises made at them.
Speaker 2: Also up not too far from North Pole, there's some reports,
Speaker 2: so just be aware. There's fresh reports out of North
Speaker 2: Pole near Fairbanks and also packs in Lake. Both areas
Speaker 2: have historically speaking of plenty of reports. I just wanted
Speaker 2: to get those out what I wanted to assure with
Speaker 2: you today. We'll name him Jack. He's from the Bristol
Speaker 2: Bay area. His uppa left him a cabin many years
Speaker 2: ago when he was a kid, and his upper would
Speaker 2: tell him stories about dealing with the Harryman at the cabin.
Speaker 2: He would always warrn Jack that, hey, when you go
Speaker 2: to the cabin, be aware it likes to look in
Speaker 2: the windows. It likes to bang the cabin that has
Speaker 2: n't taken anything, but watch your fish and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He believed his uppa, he just never dealt with it himself.
Speaker 2: So after it's up a passed, he had access to
Speaker 2: the cabin. He went there to kind of relift some memories,
Speaker 2: check out what condition it was in, and it was
Speaker 2: in great condition. So one of the things that his
Speaker 2: up had told him was this one night, so this
Speaker 2: is pre statehood, his upper was in there. He was
Speaker 2: getting ready to run a trap line. It was wintertime.
Speaker 2: He had chosen his route. He was going in there,
Speaker 2: hardy snowshoe, that kind of stuff which is work man
Speaker 2: especially with all the snow. He told Jack that on
Speaker 2: this particular trap line he had to look out because
Speaker 2: once you pass this little creek, once you get on
Speaker 2: the other side of that creek, if you ever set
Speaker 2: up traps on that side, you'll lose the firs. The
Speaker 2: harry Mann will take them, will thrash your traps and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And he took that like a grain of salt, right
Speaker 2: because his Up told him that once he went beyond
Speaker 2: that creek and tried to trap there, the first few
Speaker 2: sets were excellent, so he progressed a little further. It
Speaker 2: was about the third set that he had made over
Speaker 2: the course of a couple of weeks, all of a
Speaker 2: sudden everything was torn to tatters. Every single trap was
Speaker 2: tripped and broken and busted apart, and all this crazy
Speaker 2: stuff right along with a couple of sightings at a
Speaker 2: distance screaming, start throwing stuff. Is Up made his way
Speaker 2: out of there. This thing had followed him back to
Speaker 2: the cabin at one point was screaming at him and
Speaker 2: banging the walls. Tried the door a couple of times.
Speaker 2: His UP put a couple shots up into the door
Speaker 2: jam to basically make noise, and the thing took off.
Speaker 2: He shared with Jack multiple instances of those kind of
Speaker 2: behaviors coming from this particular group of harry Man or
Speaker 2: this hairy man that was past this creek. Jack he
Speaker 2: kept that in mind when he went there. So when
Speaker 2: Jack went to this cabin and was sitting there trying
Speaker 2: to figure out what he was going to do, just
Speaker 2: keep it recreational, maybe trap out of it if the
Speaker 2: prices were good or whatever. On this particular trip, Jack
Speaker 2: had his wife with them. She was pregnant at the
Speaker 2: time they were basically setting things up. It was in
Speaker 2: the springtime. That time of year we get a lot
Speaker 2: of daylight, so he was very comfortable after a few
Speaker 2: days going around the cabin. Of course, he always carried
Speaker 2: a bear gun because it's freaking Alaska, It's what it is.
Speaker 2: He said that he was about one hundred yards away
Speaker 2: from the cabin on this old trail, that this particular
Speaker 2: trail is up was warning him about don't cross the
Speaker 2: creek because you'll draw it back, And so he wasn't
Speaker 2: really thinking about that warning until he actually had walked
Speaker 2: past this creek a little ways, remembered what was up
Speaker 2: I told him, and then came back across the creek,
Speaker 2: milled around the cabin some more and whatnot. He decided,
Speaker 2: because understand, this creek isn't right next to the cabin.
Speaker 2: He had initially walked further away from the cabin, crossed
Speaker 2: this creek, remembered, then came back and so as he
Speaker 2: was about one hundred yards from the cabin, a sudden
Speaker 2: he's seen dark movement back. It was off to the
Speaker 2: right hand side of what he could see of the cabin.
Speaker 2: I was obscured by trees and everything, and so he said,
Speaker 2: he was looking and he saw a dark shadow moving
Speaker 2: that was very big. At first he was like, who
Speaker 2: the hell is that? So he starts heading back towards
Speaker 2: the cabin again. He's got approximately one hundred yards to cross.
Speaker 2: It's a mixed bag of terrain. He got the mossy
Speaker 2: tundra under his feet, all the density of the trees,
Speaker 2: he got black spruce, birch willow alders. He was making
Speaker 2: his way through, making his way back over. This is
Speaker 2: before everything fully bloomed and totally obscured all his vision,
Speaker 2: he said. When he got to about just hollering distance
Speaker 2: from the cabin, he started yelling out, hey, what do
Speaker 2: you want? Because this figure had moved and he's seen
Speaker 2: it stop behind a little batch of trees back on
Speaker 2: the backhand side of the cabin, which would you're facing
Speaker 2: the cabin ord be off to the left, but he
Speaker 2: was back off the corner of the right back hand side.
Speaker 2: He said, as he was yelling, this thing moved away.
Speaker 2: It was big. So he had the flashbacks of the
Speaker 2: Harryman warnings and all that from his grandpa. I just
Speaker 2: crossed that this thing had to have already been over here,
Speaker 2: It was his thought process at the time. He didn't
Speaker 2: want to startle his wife, so he goes inside and
Speaker 2: calmly brings up, Hey, you remember all the stories I
Speaker 2: tell you about my Uppa and harry mat stuff. She understood,
Speaker 2: She was like yeah. She of course believed, because there's
Speaker 2: no reason for this old man to light at them
Speaker 2: for nothing. So he explains what he just witnessed, what
Speaker 2: he saw that he had crossed that creek. The timeframe,
Speaker 2: it seemed odd and he thought maybe it was already
Speaker 2: watching them. So he warns her and she asked that
Speaker 2: he leave a loaded gun with her whenever he goes
Speaker 2: out of the cabin, which he already did, but he
Speaker 2: made it more readily available, just laid on the table there.
Speaker 2: So they talked for a little bit. And as they
Speaker 2: were talking and having this discussion, he watched it move
Speaker 2: away at a fast clip, so he didn't think it
Speaker 2: was still in the immediate area. He thought he had
Speaker 2: scared it off. Basically, that wasn't the case. As he
Speaker 2: was talking to his wife, she's in front of him
Speaker 2: in and he's standing and behind him, off his right
Speaker 2: hand shoulder is this window, and this is broad daylight.
Speaker 2: It's approximately ten to eleven in the morning. Jack said,
Speaker 2: as he's talking to his wife, she's sitting there looking
Speaker 2: back at him in his direction. He knows her eyes,
Speaker 2: her whole head turned and he noticed shadowing from behind
Speaker 2: with this window. He turns around and looks, and all
Speaker 2: he sees is this darkness moved from in front of
Speaker 2: the window out of view of the window. There was
Speaker 2: no figure to make out or anything. It was just
Speaker 2: darkness and then moved, which it was moving around to
Speaker 2: the front of that cabin. He said that when that happened,
Speaker 2: he had this rush of primal fear that made him
Speaker 2: start shaking. Even his wife said she sensed it that
Speaker 2: this thing was there to run them off, get rid
Speaker 2: of them. Is the feeling they had. I asked if
Speaker 2: there was anything specific that made him feel that way,
Speaker 2: and he said it was the energy in the air.
Speaker 2: He felt like out of place, unwelcome. He said, it
Speaker 2: was ugly. So he grabs a rifle, showing his wife's
Speaker 2: safety and all that kind of stuff. Click, safety off.
Speaker 2: He grabs that rifle and it was open sights. He
Speaker 2: flings open the front door and goes out it looking
Speaker 2: for this thing. He sees nothing. He goes around the cabin,
Speaker 2: he said. The whole time he was outside the cabin,
Speaker 2: going around the little trails around the cabin, looking off
Speaker 2: in the distance through the brush, he kept feeling like
Speaker 2: he was being watched, but he couldn't figure out where
Speaker 2: this presence was. He could feel it, he just couldn't
Speaker 2: pinpoint it as he was looking around. Now, as he
Speaker 2: came from the back side of the cabin towards the front,
Speaker 2: he heard a weird noise up above him on the roof.
Speaker 2: So as he's moving along, he noticed the way the
Speaker 2: sunlight was hitting the cabin. He could see his shoulder
Speaker 2: shadow off the edge, the drip edge of this cabin right,
Speaker 2: So he's walking along under the drip edge. The sunlight
Speaker 2: is basically straight above, and he could see the shadow
Speaker 2: of his shoulder running along with the drip line. He
Speaker 2: stopped because he noticed this bulbous kind of extension of
Speaker 2: a shadow popping out. He said. He understood this thing
Speaker 2: was on the damn roof, and he didn't know how
Speaker 2: it got there, So he walks to the front, he said.
Speaker 2: He calmly stopped. Once he got up to the front,
Speaker 2: turned around and swung the rifle up and started pulling
Speaker 2: up to the roof and then backing away from the cabin.
Speaker 2: He said. As he backed away, he got about fifteen
Speaker 2: feet back and was looking up and it was approximately
Speaker 2: nine to twelve pitch on. This roof was fairly steep.
Speaker 2: Now understand this roof was old school style. I guess
Speaker 2: it would be tar paper down. A lot of times
Speaker 2: people use pecker poles and run them and they'll lay
Speaker 2: down plywood sometimes or whatever they have around. Then tar paper,
Speaker 2: and over the tar paper they'll put tundra. They'll stack
Speaker 2: it up. That's the style roof he had initially, he
Speaker 2: ended up changing it. As he was backing up looking
Speaker 2: up the roof, he said, he noticed this thing would
Speaker 2: peek up from the other side of the the roof.
Speaker 2: For the life of him, he said, he was struggling
Speaker 2: to garner the courage to point the rifle in that
Speaker 2: direction because he was looking and it would pop its
Speaker 2: head up. He couldn't make it out because again, the
Speaker 2: way the sun was beaming down, it was all silhouette,
Speaker 2: so all he saw was a dark shape of a
Speaker 2: head poking up from the opposite side of the ridge
Speaker 2: of the roofline. He said, it freaked him out. He said,
Speaker 2: screw this. This thing is literally on the roof. My
Speaker 2: wife is inside pregnant. I don't know if the roof
Speaker 2: is going to hold this thing. So he runs over
Speaker 2: to the other side to where he can see the
Speaker 2: other side of this ridge. When he raised the rifle up,
Speaker 2: this thing stood up, turned and leapt off of the roof,
Speaker 2: tore up patches of it when it jumped off, landed
Speaker 2: in the brush just out of view, and took off.
Speaker 2: He heard it craft crash, so immediately he runs inside.
Speaker 2: His wife had already backed off into the corner, and
Speaker 2: she said, I heard it grunting when you were walking
Speaker 2: around the cabin. She said, she was too scared to
Speaker 2: say anything and yell out because she was so petra
Speaker 2: she could hear the creaking of its weight, adjusting of
Speaker 2: moving on the roof. So he calms it down and says,
Speaker 2: I ran it off. This thing obviously it comes here
Speaker 2: a lot and never did anything to Uppah. It freaked
Speaker 2: him out a few times, but it never caused him injury.
Speaker 2: So let's just calm down, figure out what we want
Speaker 2: to do. Obviously she did not want to stay. He said,
Speaker 2: I understand, give me a little time. We'll leave in
Speaker 2: the morning. First thing, I want to button things up,
Speaker 2: make sure that this thing doesn't destroy what up left me.
Speaker 2: She reluctantly agreed. We'll leave it at that. There's a
Speaker 2: little bit of a back and forth on that, so
Speaker 2: Jack said. Once they agreed, he went outside real quick
Speaker 2: and started putting these boards back over the windows. As
Speaker 2: he was doing that, as he was banging with the hammer,
Speaker 2: resetting these things back up to cover the windows so
Speaker 2: bears didn't get in. As he was doing that. Often
Speaker 2: the distance, as he was banging with the hammer, he
Speaker 2: would stop and be doing something else, grabbing some more
Speaker 2: nails or whatever, and he would hear an imitation of
Speaker 2: that knocking sound the hammer banging sound off in the distance,
Speaker 2: and he said it was the exact same cadence, the
Speaker 2: exact same pitch, tempo, everything it matched. So it was
Speaker 2: like an echo, but not in real time. It was
Speaker 2: really mind boggling, and it intrigued him a little bit.
Speaker 2: So he got the one side done, he moves around
Speaker 2: to the other side. He's bringing the rifle with him.
Speaker 2: He's leaning against the cabin as he's doing the second window,
Speaker 2: and he said, bam, something hit this board. He was
Speaker 2: just getting ready to lift very hard. He couldn't make
Speaker 2: it out because whatever hit bounced off and went over
Speaker 2: his head. He dropped it, grabbed the rifle, turned around,
Speaker 2: started yelling, hey, I'm over here, You're gonna get shot.
Speaker 2: All this stuff, I say, all this stuff bleed me.
Speaker 2: It was worse than the sailor. He was cussing up
Speaker 2: a storm, yelling out. As this is going on, he
Speaker 2: starts to hear a movement directly in front of him,
Speaker 2: but it's moving from directly in front of him off
Speaker 2: to his left. He said it had to have been
Speaker 2: about twenty five yards, and at this particular spot it
Speaker 2: was the thickest portion of woods just so happens. The
Speaker 2: path back to the river runs along right beside this area,
Speaker 2: So here's a move into that real dense vegetation area.
Speaker 2: And starts yelling again, Hey, I hear you over there.
Speaker 2: I know you're over there. If I see you again,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot you. You need to leave. It was
Speaker 2: just dead quiet, so he said his peace. He goes
Speaker 2: back over He's having a really hard time turning his
Speaker 2: back to those trees, so he goes and gets the wife. Says, hey,
Speaker 2: I need your help. I just need you to keep
Speaker 2: an eye out with the rifle when my back's turned
Speaker 2: to keep an eye out over here. She again reluctantly agreed.
Speaker 2: She comes outside and she's holding the rifle. He does
Speaker 2: this thing uneventful. They go back inside. Now their only
Speaker 2: view outside is with the door open. The two windows
Speaker 2: that are in this cabin are now covered. They're inside.
Speaker 2: She had lit this lamp together all this stuff because
Speaker 2: it's dark inside. Even with the door open, it only
Speaker 2: let so much light in. The corners were still dark.
Speaker 2: If she had to get in drawers and stuff like that. Right,
Speaker 2: they're doing their thing collecting their stuff. As that's happening.
Speaker 2: He had left the door open. He's more paying attention
Speaker 2: to the open door, waiting see if there's any shadow
Speaker 2: movements or anything like that. She's getting stuff packed back
Speaker 2: up into their totes and stuff. Bam, the whole place
Speaker 2: shakes and he could tell that this thing had just
Speaker 2: hit the board he put up on that side of
Speaker 2: the cabin, which, if you're facing the cabin straight on it,
Speaker 2: he'd be off to the left hand side, the same
Speaker 2: side that the trees are that this thing pasd over into,
Speaker 2: and he could hear it over there right. Whatever's going on,
Speaker 2: it's not stopping. So he goes outside with the rifle
Speaker 2: to that side, and as he's looking again, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden he noticed the shadow. The thing got up
Speaker 2: on the roof again. They didn't hear it. They didn't
Speaker 2: hear a weight shift, a creek or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Typically you would think something that heavy you get up
Speaker 2: on the roof, you're going to hear the weight distribute.
Speaker 2: None of that was heard. This thing was just up there.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see, we'll
Speaker 3: be right back.
Speaker 2: After these messages, he saw it shadow again. He backs
Speaker 2: away from the cabin, raises his rifle and again, it
Speaker 2: jumps off the back. He runs around the back and
Speaker 2: shoots a shot. Boom, fires off in that direction. It's
Speaker 2: dead quiet. He's got ringing going on in his ears now,
Speaker 2: and he's having a hard time hearing. But he's not
Speaker 2: hearing movement along with the ring right, nothing a loud
Speaker 2: enough to overcome that ringing in his ear at the moment.
Speaker 2: His wife screamed when she heard the shot, because once
Speaker 2: he raised the rifle then there was obvious movement on
Speaker 2: the roof that you could hear, feel of see and
Speaker 2: all that, right, so she screams. After he lets off
Speaker 2: the shot, he's looking, he's not hearing anything, and he
Speaker 2: gets really wigged out and gets back inside, and as
Speaker 2: he's sitting there talking to his wife, she tells him,
Speaker 2: how does it keep getting on the roof? How does
Speaker 2: it do that? Again, they have no clue. The roofline
Speaker 2: itself at the backside is probably at the drip edge,
Speaker 2: probably six seven foot off the ground. Up at the
Speaker 2: front's probably nine foot be physics sat on a little
Speaker 2: bit of a slope and they're trying to figure out
Speaker 2: how this thing quietly got up there. At that point,
Speaker 2: his wife was over the debate. She's not going to
Speaker 2: stay until morning, She's not staying any longer. She's ready
Speaker 2: to go. He agrees, tells her, Hey, we'll do this
Speaker 2: loading up together. So what they did is next to
Speaker 2: the cabin there was an old snow machine sled and
Speaker 2: it was on runners and stuff. It was older style,
Speaker 2: more like a tobog and like a work sled where
Speaker 2: you can put a bunch of heavy stuff on there
Speaker 2: and strap it down. It didn't really have sideboards or
Speaker 2: anything like that. It was just a flat great sled.
Speaker 2: It was pretty heavy. They decided they're going to put
Speaker 2: as much stuff on there and help drag it to
Speaker 2: make a few trips as possible back and forth for
Speaker 2: their stuff. Now, they didn't have a whole lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: but what they had was detrimental items that they brought
Speaker 2: from home. She brought a bunch of stuff because she
Speaker 2: didn't know what condition the cabin was in or what
Speaker 2: was there. Just so happened. They needed that stuff back
Speaker 2: at home as well. She was more concerned about that.
Speaker 2: It got to a point where they were loading up
Speaker 2: this sled, getting ready to help each other drag it.
Speaker 2: So as they got everything out, he buttoned up the
Speaker 2: rest of the cabin. He nailed the door shut, put
Speaker 2: the paddle loock on it. He didn't go up under
Speaker 2: the roof to take the chimney stack down and put
Speaker 2: a coffee can over. None of that, and decided he'd
Speaker 2: do that later. As they dragged this sled, they're going
Speaker 2: by that thick batch of trees where he heard this
Speaker 2: thing pace over after the thing through whatever at the
Speaker 2: cabin when he was putting up the board. So when
Speaker 2: they get to that area, they were both pretty spooked,
Speaker 2: and he kept stopping and dropping because it was basically
Speaker 2: a tongue that would attach to the snow machine or
Speaker 2: to a tow line if you don't know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about. It's a frame shaped and it's on hinges.
Speaker 2: It's where it can attach, and as the sled's going
Speaker 2: over bumps, it can articulate a sing. Every once while
Speaker 2: he would drop it, bring the rifle up because he's
Speaker 2: using one hand karen rifle with the other. He'd drop it,
Speaker 2: grab the rifle point in that direction. Because they kept
Speaker 2: feeling like they're being watched, and they kept hearing stuff,
Speaker 2: but they couldn't make it out. He chalked it up
Speaker 2: to paranoia. Finally he was like, okay, after two or
Speaker 2: three times within ten feet of doing that, he goes,
Speaker 2: let's go. And he was keeping his wife away from
Speaker 2: the wooded side where this noise was coming from. He
Speaker 2: couldn't pinpoint how far in there or none of that.
Speaker 2: He was on the verge of being hyper emotional because
Speaker 2: he had his wife there. He was worried about her safety.
Speaker 2: Just this weird shit happening, right, he said. They made
Speaker 2: a hard effort. They got within about forty yards of
Speaker 2: where the boat was tied off. They figured that was
Speaker 2: good enough. What he was going to do is have
Speaker 2: his wife stay over by the edge of the river
Speaker 2: bank where the skiff was tied up, and standing there
Speaker 2: with the rifle as he made the trips back and
Speaker 2: forth from this slg. As he was doing that, trying
Speaker 2: to be as quick as he can, because he was
Speaker 2: bringing the stuff over, jumping down, putting it in the
Speaker 2: skiff just to pack it. Instead of staging it there
Speaker 2: and then packing it into the skiff. He was just
Speaker 2: doing it all at once, he said. He was just
Speaker 2: going over to the sled for the last little bit
Speaker 2: of stuff left on there, and he was going to
Speaker 2: flip the sled over and tip it over. He gets
Speaker 2: over there, he grabs a little more in a handful
Speaker 2: of stuff. It was basically a little day bag in
Speaker 2: a sweater and something else. He threw it over one
Speaker 2: arm and was trying to lift this sled with one
Speaker 2: hand and flip it over, and it wasn't working, so
Speaker 2: he said, screw it. He turns around starts walking back.
Speaker 2: He said he was about twenty feet from his wife
Speaker 2: and she had knelt down on one knee and started
Speaker 2: raising the rifle. So he started moving out of her
Speaker 2: line of sight and kind of slowly looking over his shoulder.
Speaker 2: He said, when he looked back just past the sled,
Speaker 2: he's not far from it. So from his vantage point,
Speaker 2: this is twenty twenty five feet, there's some alder shrubs there.
Speaker 2: This thing was squatted down and was using his hand
Speaker 2: to push the brush down a little bit and do
Speaker 2: this number It would it's it's hand pushed the brush
Speaker 2: lift up and then do this. It was doing it
Speaker 2: like at a regular cadence. He said. It was like
Speaker 2: every two seconds. It was doing that to his wife.
Speaker 2: Holds her fire. If it comes at me, shoot, If not,
Speaker 2: just keep an aim on it or whatever. He gets
Speaker 2: up to his wife takes a rifle from her. He
Speaker 2: looks back and it's still doing the same thing. He
Speaker 2: tells her to untie, get in the skiff, had her
Speaker 2: fire up the skiff. They're letting it warm up a
Speaker 2: little bit. As he's standing, he's keeping an eye on
Speaker 2: this thing, and it's not doing anything overtly aggressive. It's
Speaker 2: just putting its hand up, pushing down the brush, peeking
Speaker 2: over and doing this number over and over. He said
Speaker 2: it seemed it didn't know what it wanted to do,
Speaker 2: like was unsure of itself. That's the energy, he said.
Speaker 2: It just felt real weird, like if something was uncertain
Speaker 2: going on. It's warmed up enough now and he's having
Speaker 2: a hard time turning his back on this thing. So
Speaker 2: what he does is he tries to make her so bigger.
Speaker 2: I'll start screaming, hey, you just get back. His wife's
Speaker 2: telling him get the hell out of the boat. Let's go.
Speaker 2: Gets right there. I'm scared to turn my back on it.
Speaker 2: She was like, okay, it which, hey, I'm with his wife,
Speaker 2: pop Is asked. Instead doing that, he does this gonna
Speaker 2: scare you away thing again, right, which it did not work.
Speaker 2: The second time he did it. This thingk was just
Speaker 2: putting his hand up and peeking up when he did
Speaker 2: that the second time, and then it just stood up.
Speaker 2: He said the brush itself was about six seven foot,
Speaker 2: not all that overly large, But he said when it
Speaker 2: stood up and he could see its real height, because
Speaker 2: before he was estimating at a distance, he could tell
Speaker 2: it was big. The shadow was big. When it jumped
Speaker 2: off the roof, he could tell it was big, but
Speaker 2: he had no reference of its standing still to garner
Speaker 2: its size. He said it had to have been eleven
Speaker 2: twelve foot talk. He said, it just seemed like it
Speaker 2: kept rising and rising. He jumps down and he pushes off.
Speaker 2: She gets out of the way. He takes the rifle
Speaker 2: from him, He gets into the back, backs out. They
Speaker 2: circle around, and they're looking back at shore and they
Speaker 2: see nothing. They go up river a little ways because
Speaker 2: this particular channel just the way he had backed away
Speaker 2: and was paying attention, and he wasn't going the right
Speaker 2: direction initially, so he started going up river. It on
Speaker 2: him a little ways up. He turns around, comes back.
Speaker 2: As he was going back by, he told his wife,
Speaker 2: keep your eye out in case it's standing there. Or whatever,
Speaker 2: just in case. As they're coming back around to the
Speaker 2: slight bend to where they can see their little landing area,
Speaker 2: they see that toboggan, that freight sled just flinging right
Speaker 2: on through the air, just cabluche into the water. He
Speaker 2: said that sled was heavy, it was hard to drag.
Speaker 2: It was at least a couple hundred pounds, and it
Speaker 2: was flung like nothing, just absolutely nothing. He said. The
Speaker 2: way it hit in the river, it hit real near
Speaker 2: a little gravel bar area. So when it hit, it
Speaker 2: hit and stuck a little bit and then dropped down
Speaker 2: and then tried to float. He figured, hey, it'll drip
Speaker 2: down somewhere. He wasn't going to stop in that moment.
Speaker 2: They kept going and he was looking back up at
Speaker 2: the river bank trying to see if they could see it.
Speaker 2: I feel standing out in the open or anything anymore.
Speaker 2: They didn't see anything, and they just got the hell
Speaker 2: out of there. I want to thank Jack for reaching
Speaker 2: out again Paxson Lake. If you guys are going out
Speaker 2: fall hiking that west trail, there's fresh reports of being
Speaker 2: paced strange noises. I'll try to get more definite information
Speaker 2: about the North Pole area. Where another person had some
Speaker 2: stuff going on. Try to get you guys a little
Speaker 2: better information on that. I want to share it to
Speaker 2: you today. Comes from we'll call him Conrad. Now this
Speaker 2: is actually a follow up to Doug the pilot who
Speaker 2: said he was going to reach out to some of
Speaker 2: his friends get them to speak up. Conrad being a
Speaker 2: bush pilot, he did for a number of years, about
Speaker 2: sixteen seasons. He would fly in clients, fly in supplies
Speaker 2: and stuff like that to various remote hunting camps and
Speaker 2: spike camps for the guides and all this. Right, he
Speaker 2: was basically freelancing. He really enjoyed it. When you tuck
Speaker 2: certain things away in your mind's eye and you leave
Speaker 2: it alone, it's real easy year to you for it
Speaker 2: to wash out. Exactly what day, what time, and all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So approximately six years ago now
Speaker 2: with Conrad, what he had done is he had flew
Speaker 2: out clients, he flew out supplies, and he had four
Speaker 2: days where he basically wasn't doing nothing. He knew two
Speaker 2: of those days he's going to be weathered in. So
Speaker 2: he went to a spot. He asked that I not
Speaker 2: divulged this spot. We'll just say it is not too
Speaker 2: far from the Brooks Range, and we'll just leave it
Speaker 2: at that. At this time he was on floats, so
Speaker 2: he landed. He had his little supplies ready for him
Speaker 2: to just take a couple of days to himself be
Speaker 2: alone in the wilds. He was armed for bear. He
Speaker 2: was prepared in every way except his first day after
Speaker 2: he landed, the winds picked up and he knew the
Speaker 2: weather was changing. So he did his preparations with his
Speaker 2: plane and all that kind of stuff, and then he
Speaker 2: hiked approximately one mile to get to this particular or
Speaker 2: patch of trees to where he had camped before. He
Speaker 2: really liked the area because it blocked him from the wind.
Speaker 2: He can have a fire if it rained real hard.
Speaker 2: He already had some stringers set up for his tarp
Speaker 2: to where he could have a good fire and not
Speaker 2: have it melt this tarp, but yet stay dry and
Speaker 2: keep the fire going right without all the wood getting
Speaker 2: soaked wet. So Conrad said, as he's hiking into this
Speaker 2: place and he gets about a quarter mile away, he said,
Speaker 2: he started feeling like he was being watched. So he
Speaker 2: was stopping and looking around see if he was being
Speaker 2: stocked by a bear. He said, the feelings he got
Speaker 2: initially were just little twinges of Man, why do I
Speaker 2: feel like I'm being watched? He chalked it up to
Speaker 2: maybe I just spooked myself somehow. He was just dismissing
Speaker 2: it away, which he says he'll never do again. However,
Speaker 2: he continues on the last quarter mile where he had
Speaker 2: had this particular camp. He had these stringers set up
Speaker 2: for his tarp because he had a basic wall tent
Speaker 2: that was ten by twelve. He didn't have a woodstove
Speaker 2: for it, but it was nice canvas and easy to
Speaker 2: set up for him just one person. He had this
Speaker 2: particular pole that he had run to the top. Now,
Speaker 2: anyone who's used these wall tents from like Alaska tent
Speaker 2: and tarp, it has the big openings at the top
Speaker 2: so he can run something through it, and then you
Speaker 2: got the tie offs and all that kind of stuff, right,
Speaker 2: He was looking for the pole and the tie ups.
Speaker 2: He found the strings that were still attached to the
Speaker 2: particular trees, but they had a whole bunch of weird
Speaker 2: knots and twists and all sorts of stuff, And he
Speaker 2: was thinking the wind didn't do this just because of
Speaker 2: the intricacy of how it was all knotted and woven together.
Speaker 2: He found the pole that he had used a few
Speaker 2: times for this particular tint, but he said he walked
Speaker 2: past it a few times because it had been driven
Speaker 2: into the ground and it looked like just a broken
Speaker 2: old tree there, but it was actually about a twelve
Speaker 2: foot pole only had about three feet sticking out of
Speaker 2: the ground. He said. He tried to pull it out
Speaker 2: after he realized what it was, and he couldn't get
Speaker 2: it the budge, and so he left it. And he
Speaker 2: was as perplexed now as he went to to cut
Speaker 2: down another small tree to make use to set up
Speaker 2: his tent, he said he got that tinge of being
Speaker 2: watched again. Now he's in the middle of these trees,
Speaker 2: a lot of black spruce, a little bit of alders,
Speaker 2: a little bit of willows, but it was mainly black spruce,
Speaker 2: and it was real dense because the trees stuck on
Speaker 2: each other, and they're all dark, so it's really hard
Speaker 2: to see beyond maybe twenty feet at the most. He's
Speaker 2: peeking around. He felt like whatever was watching him was
Speaker 2: like right on top of him and just wasn't seeing anything.
Speaker 2: So being distracted like that, he stopped what he was doing.
Speaker 2: He backed away from what he was doing and made
Speaker 2: sure he had rounds in the chambers of his weapons.
Speaker 2: He said, when he was checking the bolt action of
Speaker 2: the rifle he was using, it was a three thirty
Speaker 2: eight win mag When he locked the bolt, he heard
Speaker 2: an imitation of that click sound from off in the distance.
Speaker 2: He said it was very strange because it was almost
Speaker 2: but not quite but too loud, and at first he
Speaker 2: didn't recognize it as a mimic of that bolt until
Speaker 2: he thought about it for a second. And then as
Speaker 2: he's standing there, he opened the bolt again, not all
Speaker 2: the way to expel the around or anything like that,
Speaker 2: not too ejected, but just popped it up and then
Speaker 2: did it again and listened and heard nothing, and he thought, wow,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm hyper paranoid. I'm overthinking this. Maybe I just
Speaker 2: need to chill out for a second. So he decides
Speaker 2: he's gonna sit down and take a break. As he's
Speaker 2: doing so, there's something just in his mind going something mate, right,
Speaker 2: something mate right. From what he was saying, after about
Speaker 2: ten to fifteen minutes to just sitting there, he didn't
Speaker 2: feel relaxed. He didn't calm down at all. If anything,
Speaker 2: he felt things were heightened, things were escalating, even though
Speaker 2: there's nothing that happened outside of that sound he heard.
Speaker 2: That's all that has happened, right, And so he's trying
Speaker 2: to console himself and say, hey, man, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: You're getting worked up for nothing. You're out here. You've
Speaker 2: been out here before. There's never been a problem in
Speaker 2: the area. He's dealt with wolves a couple times, but
Speaker 2: they always stayed their distance and took off. Never were
Speaker 2: really a new sence or he didn't feel in any
Speaker 2: real danger from him. So he said, as he was
Speaker 2: sitting there in about the fifteen minute mark, he's g
Speaker 2: estimating because he was lost in his thoughts. Off to
Speaker 2: his left, he noticed movement.
Speaker 3: He know.
Speaker 2: It's one of the black spruce kind of wiggling right,
Speaker 2: which was odd because there was no wind at the moment.
Speaker 2: None of the other ones were wiggling. Just one about
Speaker 2: third row back, if you were to count him, it
Speaker 2: was about the third tree back from his opening that
Speaker 2: he saw wiggling. Got his attention. He starts looking, stands
Speaker 2: up and he's looking that direction. He said, at that
Speaker 2: moment he felt like he was being watched again. Even stronger,
Speaker 2: but he felt it coming from behind him, so he
Speaker 2: whips around and looks there's nothing there. So he stands
Speaker 2: there a minute. Then there's a wind gust and the
Speaker 2: tree start moving, and he laughs at himself because he
Speaker 2: just assumed, Okay, there must have been a gust over
Speaker 2: here that I didn't notice. Had just caught my attention.
Speaker 2: I need to calm him down. I'm freaking myself out.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be
Speaker 3: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: So again, he takes a moment. He had one of
Speaker 2: these little stoves that he can quickly boil up some coffee,
Speaker 2: so he did that. He figured, all right, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna make some coffee, take a breather, and then I'll
Speaker 2: get back to finishing setting up camp. He said, once
Speaker 2: he got done with this coffee, he felt a lot better.
Speaker 2: He was a lot more reassured that he's just buying,
Speaker 2: and he goes back over to the tree he had
Speaker 2: hatchets off a bunch of limbs from that he's going
Speaker 2: to use for his tent. He gets back to it,
Speaker 2: he said, he's spent about another thirty minutes dropping that
Speaker 2: cleaning up the branch as to where they don't catch
Speaker 2: up on the tent and tearet and all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, and he starts getting it set. Now along
Speaker 2: with these tight unds, he had some other cordage that
Speaker 2: he had to support this log so he could run
Speaker 2: it through the tent, lifted up, put one end through
Speaker 2: a hoop that it had just hang on because it's
Speaker 2: just a wall tent, and the other end he could
Speaker 2: do the same thing. One of the hoops was there
Speaker 2: and the other one wasn't, and so he took the
Speaker 2: moment to tie off another basically hoop to stick the
Speaker 2: poll through. And he said after he got done tying it,
Speaker 2: sensed it up and was good with it, and he
Speaker 2: was checking out make sure it looked level or at
Speaker 2: least level enough. He said. He went into the tent
Speaker 2: had a couple of shorter pieces of branches that he
Speaker 2: had cut to pop it out a little bit. He said,
Speaker 2: he doesn't know why he decided to do that, because
Speaker 2: normally he would just tie off where they got the
Speaker 2: little ties on the outside and just draw it out
Speaker 2: to give it its shape or whatever. He was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why I went in there and I
Speaker 2: put these branches to prop it. And then he caught himself,
Speaker 2: like what am I doing? This is not what I
Speaker 2: normally do, And he kind of chuckles to himself and
Speaker 2: comes back out of the tent backwards. He kind of
Speaker 2: shuffles himself back, stands up, and he looks around again.
Speaker 2: He sees nothing. He continues setting up the tent, and
Speaker 2: he said, about ten minutes after he got done with that,
Speaker 2: he hears what he assumes is someone laughing. For the
Speaker 2: life of him, was like, who's laughing at me? He's
Speaker 2: looking around, He's not hearing anything else, just some brief laughter.
Speaker 2: I asked him in what context was the laughter? Was
Speaker 2: that high pitched? Low pitch? What did it sounded like?
Speaker 2: And he goes, it just sounded like some chuckling. He's
Speaker 2: really confused, you know what I mean. So he takes
Speaker 2: a moment, he possesses the area in the scenery, and
Speaker 2: he's not seeing anything, and so he's, man, I must
Speaker 2: be losing my damn mind. He goes in, he sets
Speaker 2: up his cot, he sets up some other stuff inside
Speaker 2: this tent to get the stuff out of the open
Speaker 2: and tucked away, and everything had its place. He said
Speaker 2: he was inside right after he set up to kotty,
Speaker 2: he sat on it and he was sitting there listening outside,
Speaker 2: and that's when he first heard something moving. And he said,
Speaker 2: when he heard it moving, he couldn't pinpoint where it was,
Speaker 2: but he could tell whatever it was large, because every
Speaker 2: once in a while you would hear some branches breaking,
Speaker 2: like something large pushing through the brush, right, he said,
Speaker 2: at that moment, he was like, okay, there is something
Speaker 2: out there. I'm not losing my mind. There is something
Speaker 2: or someone out there. So he comes out of the tent.
Speaker 2: He happened to leaned his rifle right against the tree
Speaker 2: that supported the tent, that had the pole tied off
Speaker 2: to it, right, which once it's supported, it's basically the
Speaker 2: top of the opening. So he steps out. His rifle's
Speaker 2: right there. He grabs it, and he starts yelling out, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm over here, basically to give a warning to anyone
Speaker 2: who might be just wandering through doing their own hunt
Speaker 2: or whatever. Hey, there's someone here, he yelled at a
Speaker 2: few times. Nothing. He's standing there quiet for a moment,
Speaker 2: and then he hears that movement again. It's off to
Speaker 2: his left at a distance that he couldn't really tell
Speaker 2: how far away, But he knew it was at a
Speaker 2: decent enough distance that he wouldn't be able to see
Speaker 2: whatever's moving. I thought about it a minute. He goes,
Speaker 2: it might be a good sized moose. Maybe it was sleeping.
Speaker 2: Maybe that chuckle or laugh I heard was it just
Speaker 2: somehow rubbing his antler's funny against some brush and it
Speaker 2: sounded like that. He's explaining things away in his mind,
Speaker 2: so he decides he's going to go that direction. He
Speaker 2: hears the sound and creep through and see if it
Speaker 2: is a moose. He's got plenty of daylight still. He
Speaker 2: goes for it. He starts trekking off to his left
Speaker 2: where he was hearing the sound, And as he starts
Speaker 2: moving towards it, and he just gets inside the trees
Speaker 2: from this little clearing where he had his camp set up.
Speaker 2: He said he heard movement behind him just as he
Speaker 2: got out of the clearing and stepped into the trees.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, he's hearing movement behind him, So
Speaker 2: it gets his attention. He turns around, he's looking. He
Speaker 2: sees nothing. I wonder if there's some weird echo going
Speaker 2: on or something. Right, So he pauses a second and
Speaker 2: then he hears the movement up ahead of him, so
Speaker 2: he goes, all right, let me continue. He weaves through
Speaker 2: these trees, and he's pushing through some spots that are
Speaker 2: pretty tight to get through because some of the trees
Speaker 2: grow real close together. He said, as he was pushing through,
Speaker 2: he broke one of the branches and it cracked. It
Speaker 2: was a real crisp snap because it was dead black spruce.
Speaker 2: He said that crack sound could crack of a branch.
Speaker 2: He said, no sooner than breaking crack. He said, it
Speaker 2: couldn't have been more than fifty feet away. He heard
Speaker 2: an imitation of that crack come back to him. He says,
Speaker 2: there's no way in hell that branch echoed like that.
Speaker 2: He didn't know what to do. He stood there first
Speaker 2: second and lost all interest in figuring out what was
Speaker 2: moving through the trees. He backs his way out. He's
Speaker 2: looking all around. He gets back over to his tent.
Speaker 2: When he's standing there looking around, he's really super uneasy.
Speaker 2: Conrad's former military guy from years back, but not at
Speaker 2: the military a long time. But he said the only
Speaker 2: time he had ever felt that way, the sense of
Speaker 2: fear he felt was during a combat thing. He didn't elaborate.
Speaker 2: I don't push when it comes to veterans of their
Speaker 2: traumas like that, But he said that was the only
Speaker 2: other time he had felt a sense of that type
Speaker 2: of dread. Life was on the line type of thing,
Speaker 2: which in the context where he was at it made
Speaker 2: no sense to him, and it can f used him
Speaker 2: a little bit to where he was feeling really disoriented.
Speaker 2: He's looking at his tent. He's feeling like he's lost.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, this place he's been to times before,
Speaker 2: had it already set up as a camp. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, it all looked strange to him. Even as
Speaker 2: wall tent was looking strange to him. It was really
Speaker 2: hard to overcome that, he said. He shook it off
Speaker 2: and he went inside the tent. He brought his rifle
Speaker 2: with them. He basically laid on his cop and then
Speaker 2: just listened. He said, he doesn't know why he chose
Speaker 2: to lay down, but he said, as he was sitting
Speaker 2: there just listening, a breeze kicked up to where all
Speaker 2: he heard was trees and rustling of brush and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So it just everything as far as the sounds,
Speaker 2: this was one melded sound of just when pushing the
Speaker 2: brush around. He said, in those moments he ended up
Speaker 2: falling asleep. He knew he was asleep long enough for
Speaker 2: it to be twilight outside when he got up, so
Speaker 2: he said at least five hours had passed from when
Speaker 2: he went into the tent to when he woke up
Speaker 2: to it being twilight. He said he was in shock
Speaker 2: that he slept that long. He felt like he got
Speaker 2: really good sleep, like he had really slept real hard.
Speaker 2: So it dawned on him, wait a minute, the circumstances
Speaker 2: leading up to this nap things were strange. But when
Speaker 2: he came out of his tent and he's looking around,
Speaker 2: he had his headlamp lit up because it was dark
Speaker 2: in the tree line and stuff. He said, he felt
Speaker 2: comfortable again. He felt himself. He calmed down, He did
Speaker 2: his stuff, He started a fire, set up his tarp.
Speaker 2: He had some makeshift drying racks, basically which anyone who's
Speaker 2: been out in the wild is long enough, they have
Speaker 2: their own methodology of doing that. He found the stuff
Speaker 2: that was laying around from before, had to fashion some
Speaker 2: new stuff and just started setting up in case it rained,
Speaker 2: he'd have place dry stuff and just basically enjoying himself
Speaker 2: in his time in the quiet. He sat down in
Speaker 2: his folding chair, he said, when he was sitting there
Speaker 2: looking at the fire, but as it got darker, he
Speaker 2: stopped looking at the fire because he wanted some kind
Speaker 2: of night vision. As he was sitting there and stopped
Speaker 2: focusing at the fire, he starts looking off across the
Speaker 2: little clearing, which he said. The clearing was maybe a
Speaker 2: fifty foot circle, give or take. It wasn't perfectly circling.
Speaker 2: It was an opening, the little open area. He was
Speaker 2: looking across to where he had initially started walking to
Speaker 2: follow that sound. As he's looking over that way, just
Speaker 2: contemplating what had happened earlier, he noticed a dark shadow move,
Speaker 2: and at first he thought he was seeing things. So
Speaker 2: he kind of looks at all the treetops to see
Speaker 2: if the wind's blowing or anything like that. Right, because
Speaker 2: it's twilight and everything is silhouetted all around him, there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of the flicker of the fire. It
Speaker 2: wasn't too big, it wasn't putting off immense amounts of
Speaker 2: light to light everything up, right, So he sees this
Speaker 2: shadow move, he said. When he saw the shadow move,
Speaker 2: he immediately stood up he was looking in that direction
Speaker 2: and started hollering out hey. He didn't know what it was, right,
Speaker 2: so he started saying, hey, bear, hey, bear, all this
Speaker 2: stuff making himself bigger. He was holding his coat open,
Speaker 2: he said. As he was doing that, he heard that
Speaker 2: bolt sound again, and it was coming from the direction
Speaker 2: he saw the shadow move. I he heard that last
Speaker 2: little click sound of a bolt action rifle. The hair
Speaker 2: stood up on his arms. The rifle was right next
Speaker 2: to him. He picked it up, started saying hey. As
Speaker 2: he's yelling, he's got a backpack right at the opening
Speaker 2: of his tent where he has some very good illumination.
Speaker 2: He has some nice flashlight, so he goes and retrieves one.
Speaker 2: And as he is coming up with the light and
Speaker 2: clicks it on, he sees eyeshine for a brief moment.
Speaker 2: Then it's gone. It's like it just evaporated, which really
Speaker 2: bugged him out. He's hey, and Almo's playing with you
Speaker 2: around here. He goes back in front of his chair
Speaker 2: and at that point, he said, as he's holding the flashlight,
Speaker 2: he set the rifle down and was leaning against him.
Speaker 2: He pulled his pistol and popped a couple rounds in
Speaker 2: the air to make noise, to let every critter around
Speaker 2: know humans here. Human, it's bad for you to get
Speaker 2: out of here kind of thing. He wasn't shooting at anything,
Speaker 2: just pop some rounds in the air to make some noise,
Speaker 2: he said. When he did that, where he had last
Speaker 2: seen this thing, he heard movement moving away real fast. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, whatever that was was probably a bear. I
Speaker 2: probably saw a bear eyeshine. It probably stood up to
Speaker 2: look at me, because he said the eyeshine was at
Speaker 2: least seven to eight feet in the air, which I
Speaker 2: mean for even an interior grizzly, that standing up perspective
Speaker 2: in the dark. It's not far fetched, right, So he
Speaker 2: feels better about it. Okay, it's a bear wandering around. Now,
Speaker 2: I know there's potentially a problem. So what he does
Speaker 2: is the noise moved off for a good distance, he said.
Speaker 2: So once his mind calmed down a little bit, he
Speaker 2: got out his trigger alarms and he started setting him
Speaker 2: up around camp. He set one along the tree line
Speaker 2: all the way around, and then a couple more closer
Speaker 2: to his tent. If something reached the outer one, he
Speaker 2: had a couple backups that were close to the tent.
Speaker 2: And whatnot. Got all that set up, it got quiet.
Speaker 2: He was feeling uncomfortable. He felt a little better having
Speaker 2: these early warning systems set up, but he said, he
Speaker 2: decided he was going to just go and lay down
Speaker 2: and wait and listen, so he said, once he laid
Speaker 2: on his cot, he sat there for a few minutes,
Speaker 2: then proceeded to lay down, but was real antsy. Something
Speaker 2: felt so off. What he did was he got up.
Speaker 2: He started peeking out the tent, looking around again, the
Speaker 2: fires dwindling. He didn't have any headlamp on or anything
Speaker 2: like that. He's just looking around and listening to see
Speaker 2: if there's anything going on that he could pinpoint. Again,
Speaker 2: feeling outside of himself. He did not feel comfortable trekking
Speaker 2: back to his plane. He felt like he was pinned
Speaker 2: in and he didn't understand why, because in the big
Speaker 2: scheme of things, he saw something move and then he
Speaker 2: shot in there and this thing moved away, So it
Speaker 2: wasn't like an active attack of a bear or anything
Speaker 2: like that. So he comes out of the tent the
Speaker 2: rest of the way and go out on the sides.
Speaker 2: I'm going to coop my fire pile a little further
Speaker 2: away from this tarp, and I'm going to build the
Speaker 2: fire bigger. He had already had excess wood from when
Speaker 2: he cut the pole earlier, all stacked up right there,
Speaker 2: ready to go. So he took that dry wood through
Speaker 2: it on there, got the fire going bigger, he said.
Speaker 2: At that point is when the shadows really started moving.
Speaker 2: He said, Once that flame got big enough to light
Speaker 2: up the outskirts of this little opening, this little clearing,
Speaker 2: he started seeing shadows moving. At first, he thought he
Speaker 2: was really losing his shit, because it made no sense
Speaker 2: that there would be three separate shadows out in front
Speaker 2: of his tent moving like that. He thought it was
Speaker 2: a figment of his imagination, like he was somehow having
Speaker 2: a hallucination. Until one of those shadows moved just off
Speaker 2: to the right, a little bit towards the left, and
Speaker 2: it actually hit that early warning system that trigger. It
Speaker 2: popped off a twelve gage round, a bird shot he
Speaker 2: had that eclipsed his little thing, and you nail it
Speaker 2: to a tree or use a screw gun, pulls the
Speaker 2: trigger on it and it fires the shell that goes off,
Speaker 2: and it startles a shit out of him. He immediately
Speaker 2: draws his pistol. At that point, he had just set
Speaker 2: the rifle down leaning against his folding chair and knocked
Speaker 2: it over with the weight and stuff. So he immediately
Speaker 2: pulls the pistol and is looking in the direction and
Speaker 2: this shadow just disappears into the darkness, and he doesn't
Speaker 2: know what to do. He said, once that one moved
Speaker 2: a way after it triggered the early warning system. The
Speaker 2: other shadows, he could hear movement moving away, and he
Speaker 2: didn't no longer see the shadow, so he was like, crap,
Speaker 2: now what do I do? So basically he's there in
Speaker 2: the dark. There's something going on that triggered the early
Speaker 2: warning system, he said. At that point he gave up
Speaker 2: on giving a crap. He grabbed his backpack. He grabbed
Speaker 2: all his good stuff as flashlights, the stuff he'd need
Speaker 2: as a little stove, a couple of the dehydrated mountain packs,
Speaker 2: and stuff for something to eat. And he said, I
Speaker 2: am not staying in these trees. I'm gonna get out
Speaker 2: into the open of the tundra. Take my chances in
Speaker 2: the open. He had approximately, he said, a little over
Speaker 2: one hundred yards of weaving through the black spruce on
Speaker 2: his little trail that he had made over a couple
Speaker 2: seasons to get out into the opening and then work
Speaker 2: his way back to where he had landed. He said,
Speaker 2: as he was going through there, every third or fourth
Speaker 2: step he was hearing something big moving behind him, so
Speaker 2: he would turn around and all he would ever catch
Speaker 2: a glimpse of was a dark shadow just barely moving
Speaker 2: out of the way. He wasn't seeing full on silhouettes
Speaker 2: or anything like that at this point, It's just shadows moving, right.
Speaker 2: So he would take three or four more steps, same thing,
Speaker 2: and every time he turn around he would just miss
Speaker 2: seeing all of whatever it was. He would only catch
Speaker 2: a glimpse of this dark shadow moving off behind the tree.
Speaker 2: So he started really freaking out after about third fourth
Speaker 2: time of that, right and starts screaming out, starts popping
Speaker 2: more rounds with this pistol into the air, telling her, hey,
Speaker 2: you let me see you again, I'm gonna kill you. Basically,
Speaker 2: just vent.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see will be
Speaker 3: right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: Whether they understoodhim or not, have no clue, he said.
Speaker 2: As soon as he got through getting out onto the tundra,
Speaker 2: and he got about fifty feet away, he took a
Speaker 2: breather because he said he felt like he was going
Speaker 2: to have a heart attack, even though he was in
Speaker 2: perfect health and everything. He said, his blood pressure must
Speaker 2: have been jacked. He could feel his heart beat in
Speaker 2: his eyes. He was panicky, he felt nauseous. And as
Speaker 2: he's beaming back towards the tree line he had just
Speaker 2: left from, he was noticing when he would beam over here,
Speaker 2: there'd be a shadow just off to the side, start moving,
Speaker 2: and he would beam over there and they'd be vice versa.
Speaker 2: So everywhere he was turning he would see a bit
Speaker 2: of shadow movement. He realized some of that was the
Speaker 2: effect of the light was giving him a strange kind
Speaker 2: of effects. So when he was beaming over here, there'd
Speaker 2: be a slight shadow from a tree in front that
Speaker 2: would cast and it would look like movement of something. Right,
Speaker 2: So he calmed down, took a second and started breathing deep,
Speaker 2: catching his breath. He had killed the flashlight and he's
Speaker 2: basically on his knees in the dark, listening. That's when
Speaker 2: he heard the first scream off in the distance. He said.
Speaker 2: When he heard that scream, he was back to his feet,
Speaker 2: immediately picked up his backpack, threw it on his shoulder.
Speaker 2: He was still holding his pistol in his hand, and
Speaker 2: then he grabbed his rifle, turned around and started walking
Speaker 2: away from the tree line. He said he got a
Speaker 2: little further and he heard that the heavy bipedal footsteps.
Speaker 2: He said it felt like it was real close to him,
Speaker 2: but when he turned around with the flashlight and everything,
Speaker 2: there was absolutely nothing there. He said it happened twice.
Speaker 2: The first time he looked around nothing, He turned around,
Speaker 2: took about ten more steps or so roughly, and heard
Speaker 2: it again. But the second time he turned and hit
Speaker 2: the beam. He saw one of these shadow figures moving
Speaker 2: just inside the trees, and it was moving at a
Speaker 2: pretty good clip. That's when he really started losing it.
Speaker 2: He started popping shots at the shadow. There was some
Speaker 2: real strange noises that he assumed was coming from back
Speaker 2: by where he had set up his little camp. Then
Speaker 2: he heard this loud crash and break and he was like, oh, whatever,
Speaker 2: it is just clash my tent. Because he heard that
Speaker 2: pole that he was using to hold up the canvas
Speaker 2: tent when it fell down. He heard it hit his
Speaker 2: cooler that he had in there. It was just one
Speaker 2: of those small ones that you see guys using construction
Speaker 2: for lunch. He heard it hit that and it made
Speaker 2: a weird plastic noise, so he knew that noise. He
Speaker 2: recognized it. He's all, crap, whatever this is tearing out
Speaker 2: my stuff. At that point he really didn't care. Turns around,
Speaker 2: starts going again, and he said, at one point something
Speaker 2: told him turn around. Turn around. Now it was just intuition,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. He turns around and
Speaker 2: he's beaming, and when he looks, he sees this thing.
Speaker 2: When it gets the light on it, he said, it
Speaker 2: squatted down. It was right next to one of these
Speaker 2: black spruce right at the edge of the line. At
Speaker 2: this point, he's a good he said, probably one hundred
Speaker 2: feet from this tree line. You gotta understand, walking in
Speaker 2: the tundra, there's dibbots in there. It's uneven terrain. It's
Speaker 2: real spongy, real mossy. So as he's looking at this
Speaker 2: thing squatted down, he said, at the vanished point he had,
Speaker 2: it looked like it was just all black through and
Speaker 2: through until he noticed the little bit of eye glimmer
Speaker 2: that was coming back from his light. The thing was
Speaker 2: looking down. It would periodically look up and that's when
Speaker 2: he would see eye shine. But when he had looked down,
Speaker 2: he wasn't seen as much eye shine, and he was
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what he was looking at. He said.
Speaker 2: It looked like basically a caveman. He said when it
Speaker 2: would look down, he could see a big eyebrow. As
Speaker 2: he would look at it and it would glance up.
Speaker 2: He said, it was like almost a maniacal kind of
Speaker 2: grin that it was shorting. Every time it looked up,
Speaker 2: it would have this weird grin showing its teeth. He said.
Speaker 2: The teeth appeared to be blocked teeth like a horse.
Speaker 2: Everything's happening real fast, understand that. So he starts yelling, hey,
Speaker 2: get out of here, get out of here. I will
Speaker 2: shoot you. When he says I will shoot you, that's
Speaker 2: when he hears some whoops and screams he assumes is
Speaker 2: coming from where his camp was at the distance. That's
Speaker 2: what he was thinking in his mind's eye. No sooner
Speaker 2: than that happens as he glances that direction when he
Speaker 2: hears those whoops and those weird noises, and he looks
Speaker 2: back over to where his flashlight was. What he was
Speaker 2: just looking at, squatted down, is gone it's just gone.
Speaker 2: He beams all around, sees nothing, so he says, screw
Speaker 2: this noise, starts heading towards his plane. He said he
Speaker 2: didn't stop until he got to his plane. He almost
Speaker 2: got lost a couple times as he was going along
Speaker 2: because of hey, they had gotten so dark. He was
Speaker 2: just trying to basically corner distance from these things, whatever
Speaker 2: and the hell they were, so, he said, eventually, when
Speaker 2: he got to his plane, he just climbed in, got
Speaker 2: in the back, had his gun ready just in case,
Speaker 2: and tried to sleep. He said. A couple of times
Speaker 2: he dozed off. Then he heard something off in the distance,
Speaker 2: like a woman being murdered type scream. He sat up,
Speaker 2: He looks around. He's not seeing anything right up on
Speaker 2: the plane. So what he does is he pops the
Speaker 2: door and he beams the light off in the distance.
Speaker 2: There's nothing immediately in the foreground, but off in the
Speaker 2: distance he sees this shadow moving, and he said it
Speaker 2: was shaped like a man, but it was at enough
Speaker 2: of a distance that he could not fully make out.
Speaker 2: He said, whatever it is looked huge, and he was
Speaker 2: walking on two feet, and it walked off into the darkness,
Speaker 2: out of the range of his light. Then he turned
Speaker 2: off the light and that's when he'd hear the noise
Speaker 2: again a little while later, same things. He said, Up
Speaker 2: until the morning first light, these shadows were basically moving
Speaker 2: in closer and closer each time he would hear this
Speaker 2: weird noise, And he thought it was weird that he
Speaker 2: would hear the noise first, almost like they're giving themselves
Speaker 2: away for him to look. It made no sense to him.
Speaker 2: Eventually that all stopped once first light started showing on
Speaker 2: the horizon and stuff. And he said at that point
Speaker 2: he was out with his rifle hoping to get a
Speaker 2: shot on something. He felt tormented. He felt like he
Speaker 2: was being toyed with. Once the sunlight was pre dawn
Speaker 2: light enough to start seeing pretty damn clearly, he said,
Speaker 2: there was no other sounds, no other shadows moving. He
Speaker 2: decided that he would come back another time to gather
Speaker 2: up his stuff. He ended up flying out of there
Speaker 2: as soon as he could, had to warm up, had
Speaker 2: a taxi and take off and all that. He said.
Speaker 2: It was approximately a month later, at the end of
Speaker 2: his work season, that he had made it back to
Speaker 2: this place. He brought his friend. He explained what happened
Speaker 2: his friend understood, didn't quite get it, but understood, Hey,
Speaker 2: this is my buddy. He'd been through some stuff and
Speaker 2: he knew him to be truthful, So Conrad, he's his buddy.
Speaker 2: To where his campsite was, he said, outside of the
Speaker 2: tent being clapsed down, that cooler was missing. Every piece
Speaker 2: of rope that there was hanging that he had just
Speaker 2: added or had been there was all twisted up with sticks.
Speaker 2: So he said, it's basically like someone with a tourniquit
Speaker 2: got a round piece of rope stick of stick through
Speaker 2: and then twisted up right. He said, they were all
Speaker 2: twisted up like that. But the weird thing was is
Speaker 2: the way they were stuck into the tree was like
Speaker 2: something very large took this stick and bam, just dug
Speaker 2: it into the dead tree right boom, just enough to
Speaker 2: keep the rope coiled up and stuck to the tree.
Speaker 2: He said, it was the damnedest thing. He tried to
Speaker 2: get a hold of his buddy that he brought with
Speaker 2: to grab his stuff because his buddy had taken pictures
Speaker 2: of these twisted up ropes and stuff. He was unable
Speaker 2: to get a hold of them prior to me filming this.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been back to that place since. He has
Speaker 2: since found new places to camp. As far as his
Speaker 2: time off, I want to thank Conrad for reaching out.
Speaker 2: He almost didn't. I just appreciate him being willing to
Speaker 2: share what happened with them, even though it was more
Speaker 2: freaky than anything, because let's be honest, if they had
Speaker 2: moved in quickly, we would have never heard Conrad's story.
Speaker 2: But it triggers the thought, what are they gaining by
Speaker 2: scaring people? In so many of these cases, it's almost
Speaker 2: like they intentionally want the fear versus the outright attack you,
Speaker 2: which is just mind boggling. It's almost like the energy
Speaker 2: vampire of some kind. It just real weird. We will
Speaker 2: catch you guys real soon. They say, you don't gotta
Speaker 2: go home, but you can't stay.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be out there.
Speaker 5: Steps step, Joy, this child, that child, everything came right back,
Speaker 5: right back, Joy for me, Joy staying right.
Speaker 4: You come it right away, Still stay, stay, stays, Still
Speaker 4: sad down.
Speaker 5: Knocking down, Don Doss games, still steps and stassssss