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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,

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<v Speaker 1>my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was or

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<v Speaker 1>was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the window now and I don't see anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go outside. Jesus quice you bick Hello, get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 2>What quent on out there?

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<v Speaker 1>It's thought of a bit just about ticking fort nine?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Easy him out there, yeah right.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, greetings spread Alaska. Thanks for joining me. Some quick

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<v Speaker 2>updates here Packson Lake. There was recent reports the trailer

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<v Speaker 2>on the west side of the lake. Some people were

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<v Speaker 2>paced out, a lot of weird noises made at them.

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<v Speaker 2>Also up not too far from North Pole, there's some reports,

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<v Speaker 2>so just be aware. There's fresh reports out of North

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<v Speaker 2>Pole near Fairbanks and also packs in Lake. Both areas

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<v Speaker 2>have historically speaking of plenty of reports. I just wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get those out what I wanted to assure with

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<v Speaker 2>you today. We'll name him Jack. He's from the Bristol

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<v Speaker 2>Bay area. His uppa left him a cabin many years

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<v Speaker 2>ago when he was a kid, and his upper would

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<v Speaker 2>tell him stories about dealing with the Harryman at the cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>He would always warrn Jack that, hey, when you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the cabin, be aware it likes to look in

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<v Speaker 2>the windows. It likes to bang the cabin that has

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<v Speaker 2>n't taken anything, but watch your fish and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He believed his uppa, he just never dealt with it himself.

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<v Speaker 2>So after it's up a passed, he had access to

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin. He went there to kind of relift some memories,

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<v Speaker 2>check out what condition it was in, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>in great condition. So one of the things that his

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<v Speaker 2>up had told him was this one night, so this

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<v Speaker 2>is pre statehood, his upper was in there. He was

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to run a trap line. It was wintertime.

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<v Speaker 2>He had chosen his route. He was going in there,

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<v Speaker 2>hardy snowshoe, that kind of stuff which is work man

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<v Speaker 2>especially with all the snow. He told Jack that on

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<v Speaker 2>this particular trap line he had to look out because

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<v Speaker 2>once you pass this little creek, once you get on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of that creek, if you ever set

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<v Speaker 2>up traps on that side, you'll lose the firs. The

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<v Speaker 2>harry Mann will take them, will thrash your traps and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>And he took that like a grain of salt, right

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<v Speaker 2>because his Up told him that once he went beyond

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<v Speaker 2>that creek and tried to trap there, the first few

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<v Speaker 2>sets were excellent, so he progressed a little further. It

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<v Speaker 2>was about the third set that he had made over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of a couple of weeks, all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden everything was torn to tatters. Every single trap was

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<v Speaker 2>tripped and broken and busted apart, and all this crazy

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<v Speaker 2>stuff right along with a couple of sightings at a

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<v Speaker 2>distance screaming, start throwing stuff. Is Up made his way

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<v Speaker 2>out of there. This thing had followed him back to

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin at one point was screaming at him and

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<v Speaker 2>banging the walls. Tried the door a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>His UP put a couple shots up into the door

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<v Speaker 2>jam to basically make noise, and the thing took off.

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<v Speaker 2>He shared with Jack multiple instances of those kind of

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<v Speaker 2>behaviors coming from this particular group of harry Man or

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<v Speaker 2>this hairy man that was past this creek. Jack he

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<v Speaker 2>kept that in mind when he went there. So when

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<v Speaker 2>Jack went to this cabin and was sitting there trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what he was going to do, just

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<v Speaker 2>keep it recreational, maybe trap out of it if the

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<v Speaker 2>prices were good or whatever. On this particular trip, Jack

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<v Speaker 2>had his wife with them. She was pregnant at the

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<v Speaker 2>time they were basically setting things up. It was in

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<v Speaker 2>the springtime. That time of year we get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of daylight, so he was very comfortable after a few

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<v Speaker 2>days going around the cabin. Of course, he always carried

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<v Speaker 2>a bear gun because it's freaking Alaska, It's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that he was about one hundred yards away

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<v Speaker 2>from the cabin on this old trail, that this particular

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<v Speaker 2>trail is up was warning him about don't cross the

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<v Speaker 2>creek because you'll draw it back, And so he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really thinking about that warning until he actually had walked

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<v Speaker 2>past this creek a little ways, remembered what was up

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<v Speaker 2>I told him, and then came back across the creek,

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<v Speaker 2>milled around the cabin some more and whatnot. He decided,

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<v Speaker 2>because understand, this creek isn't right next to the cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>He had initially walked further away from the cabin, crossed

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<v Speaker 2>this creek, remembered, then came back and so as he

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<v Speaker 2>was about one hundred yards from the cabin, a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>he's seen dark movement back. It was off to the

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<v Speaker 2>right hand side of what he could see of the cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>I was obscured by trees and everything, and so he said,

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<v Speaker 2>he was looking and he saw a dark shadow moving

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<v Speaker 2>that was very big. At first he was like, who

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<v Speaker 2>the hell is that? So he starts heading back towards

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin again. He's got approximately one hundred yards to cross.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mixed bag of terrain. He got the mossy

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<v Speaker 2>tundra under his feet, all the density of the trees,

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<v Speaker 2>he got black spruce, birch willow alders. He was making

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<v Speaker 2>his way through, making his way back over. This is

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<v Speaker 2>before everything fully bloomed and totally obscured all his vision,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. When he got to about just hollering distance

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<v Speaker 2>from the cabin, he started yelling out, hey, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want? Because this figure had moved and he's seen

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<v Speaker 2>it stop behind a little batch of trees back on

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<v Speaker 2>the backhand side of the cabin, which would you're facing

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin ord be off to the left, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was back off the corner of the right back hand side.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, as he was yelling, this thing moved away.

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<v Speaker 2>It was big. So he had the flashbacks of the

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<v Speaker 2>Harryman warnings and all that from his grandpa. I just

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<v Speaker 2>crossed that this thing had to have already been over here,

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<v Speaker 2>It was his thought process at the time. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to startle his wife, so he goes inside and

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<v Speaker 2>calmly brings up, Hey, you remember all the stories I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about my Uppa and harry mat stuff. She understood,

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<v Speaker 2>She was like yeah. She of course believed, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>no reason for this old man to light at them

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<v Speaker 2>for nothing. So he explains what he just witnessed, what

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<v Speaker 2>he saw that he had crossed that creek. The timeframe,

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed odd and he thought maybe it was already

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<v Speaker 2>watching them. So he warns her and she asked that

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<v Speaker 2>he leave a loaded gun with her whenever he goes

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<v Speaker 2>out of the cabin, which he already did, but he

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<v Speaker 2>made it more readily available, just laid on the table there.

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<v Speaker 2>So they talked for a little bit. And as they

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<v Speaker 2>were talking and having this discussion, he watched it move

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<v Speaker 2>away at a fast clip, so he didn't think it

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<v Speaker 2>was still in the immediate area. He thought he had

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<v Speaker 2>scared it off. Basically, that wasn't the case. As he

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<v Speaker 2>was talking to his wife, she's in front of him

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<v Speaker 2>in and he's standing and behind him, off his right

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<v Speaker 2>hand shoulder is this window, and this is broad daylight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's approximately ten to eleven in the morning. Jack said,

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<v Speaker 2>as he's talking to his wife, she's sitting there looking

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<v Speaker 2>back at him in his direction. He knows her eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>her whole head turned and he noticed shadowing from behind

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<v Speaker 2>with this window. He turns around and looks, and all

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<v Speaker 2>he sees is this darkness moved from in front of

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<v Speaker 2>the window out of view of the window. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no figure to make out or anything. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>darkness and then moved, which it was moving around to

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<v Speaker 2>the front of that cabin. He said that when that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>he had this rush of primal fear that made him

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<v Speaker 2>start shaking. Even his wife said she sensed it that

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was there to run them off, get rid

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Is the feeling they had. I asked if

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<v Speaker 2>there was anything specific that made him feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said it was the energy in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>He felt like out of place, unwelcome. He said, it

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<v Speaker 2>was ugly. So he grabs a rifle, showing his wife's

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<v Speaker 2>safety and all that kind of stuff. Click, safety off.

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<v Speaker 2>He grabs that rifle and it was open sights. He

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<v Speaker 2>flings open the front door and goes out it looking

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<v Speaker 2>for this thing. He sees nothing. He goes around the cabin,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. The whole time he was outside the cabin,

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<v Speaker 2>going around the little trails around the cabin, looking off

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<v Speaker 2>in the distance through the brush, he kept feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>he was being watched, but he couldn't figure out where

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<v Speaker 2>this presence was. He could feel it, he just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>pinpoint it as he was looking around. Now, as he

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<v Speaker 2>came from the back side of the cabin towards the front,

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<v Speaker 2>he heard a weird noise up above him on the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>So as he's moving along, he noticed the way the

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<v Speaker 2>sunlight was hitting the cabin. He could see his shoulder

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<v Speaker 2>shadow off the edge, the drip edge of this cabin right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he's walking along under the drip edge. The sunlight

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<v Speaker 2>is basically straight above, and he could see the shadow

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<v Speaker 2>of his shoulder running along with the drip line. He

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<v Speaker 2>stopped because he noticed this bulbous kind of extension of

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<v Speaker 2>a shadow popping out. He said. He understood this thing

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<v Speaker 2>was on the damn roof, and he didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>it got there, So he walks to the front, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>He calmly stopped. Once he got up to the front,

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<v Speaker 2>turned around and swung the rifle up and started pulling

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<v Speaker 2>up to the roof and then backing away from the cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>He said. As he backed away, he got about fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>feet back and was looking up and it was approximately

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<v Speaker 2>nine to twelve pitch on. This roof was fairly steep.

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<v Speaker 2>Now understand this roof was old school style. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it would be tar paper down. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 2>people use pecker poles and run them and they'll lay

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<v Speaker 2>down plywood sometimes or whatever they have around. Then tar paper,

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<v Speaker 2>and over the tar paper they'll put tundra. They'll stack

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<v Speaker 2>it up. That's the style roof he had initially, he

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<v Speaker 2>ended up changing it. As he was backing up looking

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<v Speaker 2>up the roof, he said, he noticed this thing would

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<v Speaker 2>peek up from the other side of the the roof.

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<v Speaker 2>For the life of him, he said, he was struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to garner the courage to point the rifle in that

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<v Speaker 2>direction because he was looking and it would pop its

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<v Speaker 2>head up. He couldn't make it out because again, the

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<v Speaker 2>way the sun was beaming down, it was all silhouette,

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<v Speaker 2>so all he saw was a dark shape of a

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<v Speaker 2>head poking up from the opposite side of the ridge

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<v Speaker 2>of the roofline. He said, it freaked him out. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>screw this. This thing is literally on the roof. My

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<v Speaker 2>wife is inside pregnant. I don't know if the roof

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<v Speaker 2>is going to hold this thing. So he runs over

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side to where he can see the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of this ridge. When he raised the rifle up,

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<v Speaker 2>this thing stood up, turned and leapt off of the roof,

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<v Speaker 2>tore up patches of it when it jumped off, landed

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<v Speaker 2>in the brush just out of view, and took off.

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<v Speaker 2>He heard it craft crash, so immediately he runs inside.

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<v Speaker 2>His wife had already backed off into the corner, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, I heard it grunting when you were walking

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<v Speaker 2>she could hear the creaking of its weight, adjusting of

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<v Speaker 2>moving on the roof. So he calms it down and says,

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<v Speaker 2>I ran it off. This thing obviously it comes here

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<v Speaker 2>a lot and never did anything to Uppah. It freaked

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<v Speaker 2>him out a few times, but it never caused him injury.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just calm down, figure out what we want

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Obviously she did not want to stay. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand, give me a little time. We'll leave in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. First thing, I want to button things up,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that this thing doesn't destroy what up left me.

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<v Speaker 2>She reluctantly agreed. We'll leave it at that. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>Jack said. Once they agreed, he went outside real quick

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<v Speaker 2>and started putting these boards back over the windows. As

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing that, as he was banging with the hammer,

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<v Speaker 2>resetting these things back up to cover the windows so

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<v Speaker 2>bears didn't get in. As he was doing that. Often

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<v Speaker 2>the distance, as he was banging with the hammer, he

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<v Speaker 2>nails or whatever, and he would hear an imitation of

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<v Speaker 2>that knocking sound the hammer banging sound off in the distance,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said it was the exact same cadence, the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same pitch, tempo, everything it matched. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>like an echo, but not in real time. It was

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<v Speaker 2>So he got the one side done, he moves around

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<v Speaker 2>to the other side. He's bringing the rifle with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's leaning against the cabin as he's doing the second window,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, bam, something hit this board. He was

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<v Speaker 2>it out because whatever hit bounced off and went over

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<v Speaker 2>his head. He dropped it, grabbed the rifle, turned around,

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<v Speaker 2>started yelling, hey, I'm over here, You're gonna get shot.

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<v Speaker 2>All this stuff, I say, all this stuff bleed me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was worse than the sailor. He was cussing up

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<v Speaker 2>a storm, yelling out. As this is going on, he

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<v Speaker 2>starts to hear a movement directly in front of him,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's moving from directly in front of him off

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<v Speaker 2>to his left. He said it had to have been

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty five yards, and at this particular spot it

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<v Speaker 2>was the thickest portion of woods just so happens. The

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<v Speaker 2>So here's a move into that real dense vegetation area.

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<v Speaker 2>And starts yelling again, Hey, I hear you over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're over there. If I see you again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna shoot you. You need to leave. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just dead quiet, so he said his peace. He goes

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<v Speaker 2>back over He's having a really hard time turning his

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<v Speaker 2>back to those trees, so he goes and gets the wife. Says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I need your help. I just need you to keep

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<v Speaker 2>an eye out with the rifle when my back's turned

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<v Speaker 2>to keep an eye out over here. She again reluctantly agreed.

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<v Speaker 2>She comes outside and she's holding the rifle. He does

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<v Speaker 2>this thing uneventful. They go back inside. Now their only

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<v Speaker 2>view outside is with the door open. The two windows

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<v Speaker 2>that are in this cabin are now covered. They're inside.

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<v Speaker 2>She had lit this lamp together all this stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>it's dark inside. Even with the door open, it only

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<v Speaker 2>let so much light in. The corners were still dark.

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<v Speaker 2>If she had to get in drawers and stuff like that. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing their thing collecting their stuff. As that's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>He had left the door open. He's more paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>to the open door, waiting see if there's any shadow

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<v Speaker 2>movements or anything like that. She's getting stuff packed back

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<v Speaker 2>up into their totes and stuff. Bam, the whole place

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<v Speaker 2>shakes and he could tell that this thing had just

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<v Speaker 2>hit the board he put up on that side of

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin, which, if you're facing the cabin straight on it,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be off to the left hand side, the same

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<v Speaker 2>side that the trees are that this thing pasd over into,

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<v Speaker 2>and he could hear it over there right. Whatever's going on,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not stopping. So he goes outside with the rifle

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<v Speaker 2>to that side, and as he's looking again, all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden he noticed the shadow. The thing got up

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<v Speaker 2>on the roof again. They didn't hear it. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear a weight shift, a creek or any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Typically you would think something that heavy you get up

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<v Speaker 2>on the roof, you're going to hear the weight distribute.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that was heard. This thing was just up there.

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<v Speaker 3>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>After these messages, he saw it shadow again. He backs

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<v Speaker 2>away from the cabin, raises his rifle and again, it

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<v Speaker 2>jumps off the back. He runs around the back and

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<v Speaker 2>shoots a shot. Boom, fires off in that direction. It's

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<v Speaker 2>dead quiet. He's got ringing going on in his ears now,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's having a hard time hearing. But he's not

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<v Speaker 2>hearing movement along with the ring right, nothing a loud

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<v Speaker 2>enough to overcome that ringing in his ear at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>His wife screamed when she heard the shot, because once

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<v Speaker 2>he raised the rifle then there was obvious movement on

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<v Speaker 2>the roof that you could hear, feel of see and

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<v Speaker 2>all that, right, so she screams. After he lets off

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<v Speaker 2>the shot, he's looking, he's not hearing anything, and he

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<v Speaker 2>gets really wigged out and gets back inside, and as

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<v Speaker 2>he's sitting there talking to his wife, she tells him,

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<v Speaker 2>how does it keep getting on the roof? How does

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<v Speaker 2>it do that? Again, they have no clue. The roofline

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<v Speaker 2>itself at the backside is probably at the drip edge,

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<v Speaker 2>probably six seven foot off the ground. Up at the

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<v Speaker 2>front's probably nine foot be physics sat on a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a slope and they're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>how this thing quietly got up there. At that point,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife was over the debate. She's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>stay until morning, She's not staying any longer. She's ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go. He agrees, tells her, Hey, we'll do this

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<v Speaker 2>loading up together. So what they did is next to

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin there was an old snow machine sled and

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<v Speaker 2>it was on runners and stuff. It was older style,

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<v Speaker 2>more like a tobog and like a work sled where

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<v Speaker 2>you can put a bunch of heavy stuff on there

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<v Speaker 2>and strap it down. It didn't really have sideboards or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. It was just a flat great sled.

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty heavy. They decided they're going to put

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<v Speaker 2>as much stuff on there and help drag it to

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<v Speaker 2>make a few trips as possible back and forth for

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<v Speaker 2>their stuff. Now, they didn't have a whole lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but what they had was detrimental items that they brought

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<v Speaker 2>from home. She brought a bunch of stuff because she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know what condition the cabin was in or what

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<v Speaker 2>was there. Just so happened. They needed that stuff back

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<v Speaker 2>at home as well. She was more concerned about that.

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<v Speaker 2>It got to a point where they were loading up

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<v Speaker 2>this sled, getting ready to help each other drag it.

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<v Speaker 2>So as they got everything out, he buttoned up the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the cabin. He nailed the door shut, put

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<v Speaker 2>the paddle loock on it. He didn't go up under

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<v Speaker 2>the roof to take the chimney stack down and put

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<v Speaker 2>a coffee can over. None of that, and decided he'd

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<v Speaker 2>do that later. As they dragged this sled, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>by that thick batch of trees where he heard this

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<v Speaker 2>thing pace over after the thing through whatever at the

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<v Speaker 2>cabin when he was putting up the board. So when

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<v Speaker 2>they get to that area, they were both pretty spooked,

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<v Speaker 2>and he kept stopping and dropping because it was basically

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<v Speaker 2>a tongue that would attach to the snow machine or

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<v Speaker 2>to a tow line if you don't know what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. It's a frame shaped and it's on hinges.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where it can attach, and as the sled's going

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<v Speaker 2>over bumps, it can articulate a sing. Every once while

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<v Speaker 2>he would drop it, bring the rifle up because he's

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<v Speaker 2>using one hand karen rifle with the other. He'd drop it,

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<v Speaker 2>grab the rifle point in that direction. Because they kept

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like they're being watched, and they kept hearing stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but they couldn't make it out. He chalked it up

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<v Speaker 2>to paranoia. Finally he was like, okay, after two or

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<v Speaker 2>three times within ten feet of doing that, he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. And he was keeping his wife away from

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<v Speaker 2>the wooded side where this noise was coming from. He

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't pinpoint how far in there or none of that.

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<v Speaker 2>He was on the verge of being hyper emotional because

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<v Speaker 2>he had his wife there. He was worried about her safety.

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<v Speaker 2>Just this weird shit happening, right, he said. They made

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<v Speaker 2>a hard effort. They got within about forty yards of

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<v Speaker 2>where the boat was tied off. They figured that was

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<v Speaker 2>good enough. What he was going to do is have

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<v Speaker 2>his wife stay over by the edge of the river

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<v Speaker 2>bank where the skiff was tied up, and standing there

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<v Speaker 2>with the rifle as he made the trips back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth from this slg. As he was doing that, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be as quick as he can, because he was

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<v Speaker 2>bringing the stuff over, jumping down, putting it in the

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<v Speaker 2>skiff just to pack it. Instead of staging it there

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<v Speaker 2>and then packing it into the skiff. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>doing it all at once, he said. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>going over to the sled for the last little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff left on there, and he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>flip the sled over and tip it over. He gets

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<v Speaker 2>over there, he grabs a little more in a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. It was basically a little day bag in

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<v Speaker 2>a sweater and something else. He threw it over one

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<v Speaker 2>arm and was trying to lift this sled with one

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<v Speaker 2>hand and flip it over, and it wasn't working, so

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<v Speaker 2>he said, screw it. He turns around starts walking back.

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<v Speaker 2>He said he was about twenty feet from his wife

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<v Speaker 2>and she had knelt down on one knee and started

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<v Speaker 2>raising the rifle. So he started moving out of her

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<v Speaker 2>line of sight and kind of slowly looking over his shoulder.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, when he looked back just past the sled,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not far from it. So from his vantage point,

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<v Speaker 2>this is twenty twenty five feet, there's some alder shrubs there.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing was squatted down and was using his hand

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<v Speaker 2>to push the brush down a little bit and do

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<v Speaker 2>this number It would it's it's hand pushed the brush

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<v Speaker 2>lift up and then do this. It was doing it

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<v Speaker 2>like at a regular cadence. He said. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>every two seconds. It was doing that to his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Holds her fire. If it comes at me, shoot, If not,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep an aim on it or whatever. He gets

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<v Speaker 2>up to his wife takes a rifle from her. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks back and it's still doing the same thing. He

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<v Speaker 2>tells her to untie, get in the skiff, had her

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<v Speaker 2>fire up the skiff. They're letting it warm up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. As he's standing, he's keeping an eye on

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<v Speaker 2>this thing, and it's not doing anything overtly aggressive. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just putting its hand up, pushing down the brush, peeking

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<v Speaker 2>over and doing this number over and over. He said

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<v Speaker 2>it seemed it didn't know what it wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 2>like was unsure of itself. That's the energy, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>It just felt real weird, like if something was uncertain

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<v Speaker 2>going on. It's warmed up enough now and he's having

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time turning his back on this thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>what he does is he tries to make her so bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start screaming, hey, you just get back. His wife's

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<v Speaker 2>telling him get the hell out of the boat. Let's go.

417
00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Gets right there. I'm scared to turn my back on it.

418
00:20:59.039 --> 00:21:02.680
<v Speaker 2>She was like, okay, it which, hey, I'm with his wife,

419
00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:06.079
<v Speaker 2>pop Is asked. Instead doing that, he does this gonna

420
00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>scare you away thing again, right, which it did not work.

421
00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.960
<v Speaker 2>The second time he did it. This thingk was just

422
00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:14.400
<v Speaker 2>putting his hand up and peeking up when he did

423
00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that the second time, and then it just stood up.

424
00:21:17.440 --> 00:21:20.039
<v Speaker 2>He said the brush itself was about six seven foot,

425
00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:22.440
<v Speaker 2>not all that overly large, But he said when it

426
00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:26.759
<v Speaker 2>stood up and he could see its real height, because

427
00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:29.039
<v Speaker 2>before he was estimating at a distance, he could tell

428
00:21:29.079 --> 00:21:31.039
<v Speaker 2>it was big. The shadow was big. When it jumped

429
00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:32.519
<v Speaker 2>off the roof, he could tell it was big, but

430
00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:36.400
<v Speaker 2>he had no reference of its standing still to garner

431
00:21:36.480 --> 00:21:38.400
<v Speaker 2>its size. He said it had to have been eleven

432
00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:40.359
<v Speaker 2>twelve foot talk. He said, it just seemed like it

433
00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.680
<v Speaker 2>kept rising and rising. He jumps down and he pushes off.

434
00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:46.359
<v Speaker 2>She gets out of the way. He takes the rifle

435
00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:49.519
<v Speaker 2>from him, He gets into the back, backs out. They

436
00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.720
<v Speaker 2>circle around, and they're looking back at shore and they

437
00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.599
<v Speaker 2>see nothing. They go up river a little ways because

438
00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.519
<v Speaker 2>this particular channel just the way he had backed away

439
00:21:58.759 --> 00:22:01.720
<v Speaker 2>and was paying attention, and he wasn't going the right

440
00:22:01.759 --> 00:22:03.920
<v Speaker 2>direction initially, so he started going up river. It on

441
00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.000
<v Speaker 2>him a little ways up. He turns around, comes back.

442
00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:09.680
<v Speaker 2>As he was going back by, he told his wife,

443
00:22:09.960 --> 00:22:12.400
<v Speaker 2>keep your eye out in case it's standing there. Or whatever,

444
00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:15.880
<v Speaker 2>just in case. As they're coming back around to the

445
00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:19.400
<v Speaker 2>slight bend to where they can see their little landing area,

446
00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:24.400
<v Speaker 2>they see that toboggan, that freight sled just flinging right

447
00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:28.000
<v Speaker 2>on through the air, just cabluche into the water. He

448
00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:30.839
<v Speaker 2>said that sled was heavy, it was hard to drag.

449
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:33.359
<v Speaker 2>It was at least a couple hundred pounds, and it

450
00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:37.000
<v Speaker 2>was flung like nothing, just absolutely nothing. He said. The

451
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.960
<v Speaker 2>way it hit in the river, it hit real near

452
00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:42.440
<v Speaker 2>a little gravel bar area. So when it hit, it

453
00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:44.759
<v Speaker 2>hit and stuck a little bit and then dropped down

454
00:22:44.799 --> 00:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and then tried to float. He figured, hey, it'll drip

455
00:22:47.319 --> 00:22:49.640
<v Speaker 2>down somewhere. He wasn't going to stop in that moment.

456
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:52.519
<v Speaker 2>They kept going and he was looking back up at

457
00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the river bank trying to see if they could see it.

458
00:22:54.519 --> 00:22:56.759
<v Speaker 2>I feel standing out in the open or anything anymore.

459
00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.039
<v Speaker 2>They didn't see anything, and they just got the hell

460
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<v Speaker 2>out of there. I want to thank Jack for reaching

461
00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:05.359
<v Speaker 2>out again Paxson Lake. If you guys are going out

462
00:23:05.359 --> 00:23:08.839
<v Speaker 2>fall hiking that west trail, there's fresh reports of being

463
00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 2>paced strange noises. I'll try to get more definite information

464
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>about the North Pole area. Where another person had some

465
00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.880
<v Speaker 2>stuff going on. Try to get you guys a little

466
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.519
<v Speaker 2>better information on that. I want to share it to

467
00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you today. Comes from we'll call him Conrad. Now this

468
00:23:26.039 --> 00:23:28.519
<v Speaker 2>is actually a follow up to Doug the pilot who

469
00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:30.359
<v Speaker 2>said he was going to reach out to some of

470
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>his friends get them to speak up. Conrad being a

471
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:37.519
<v Speaker 2>bush pilot, he did for a number of years, about

472
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 2>sixteen seasons. He would fly in clients, fly in supplies

473
00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:45.839
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that to various remote hunting camps and

474
00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:48.799
<v Speaker 2>spike camps for the guides and all this. Right, he

475
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>was basically freelancing. He really enjoyed it. When you tuck

476
00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.160
<v Speaker 2>certain things away in your mind's eye and you leave

477
00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.480
<v Speaker 2>it alone, it's real easy year to you for it

478
00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.440
<v Speaker 2>to wash out. Exactly what day, what time, and all

479
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:07.759
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. So approximately six years ago now

480
00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:10.960
<v Speaker 2>with Conrad, what he had done is he had flew

481
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:13.359
<v Speaker 2>out clients, he flew out supplies, and he had four

482
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:17.079
<v Speaker 2>days where he basically wasn't doing nothing. He knew two

483
00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 2>of those days he's going to be weathered in. So

484
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>he went to a spot. He asked that I not

485
00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:27.440
<v Speaker 2>divulged this spot. We'll just say it is not too

486
00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:30.440
<v Speaker 2>far from the Brooks Range, and we'll just leave it

487
00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.240
<v Speaker 2>at that. At this time he was on floats, so

488
00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:38.240
<v Speaker 2>he landed. He had his little supplies ready for him

489
00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 2>to just take a couple of days to himself be

490
00:24:40.480 --> 00:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>alone in the wilds. He was armed for bear. He

491
00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:47.839
<v Speaker 2>was prepared in every way except his first day after

492
00:24:47.880 --> 00:24:49.799
<v Speaker 2>he landed, the winds picked up and he knew the

493
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>weather was changing. So he did his preparations with his

494
00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>plane and all that kind of stuff, and then he

495
00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:00.119
<v Speaker 2>hiked approximately one mile to get to this particular or

496
00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.480
<v Speaker 2>patch of trees to where he had camped before. He

497
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:06.119
<v Speaker 2>really liked the area because it blocked him from the wind.

498
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.039
<v Speaker 2>He can have a fire if it rained real hard.

499
00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:12.000
<v Speaker 2>He already had some stringers set up for his tarp

500
00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 2>to where he could have a good fire and not

501
00:25:14.440 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 2>have it melt this tarp, but yet stay dry and

502
00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>keep the fire going right without all the wood getting

503
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:23.319
<v Speaker 2>soaked wet. So Conrad said, as he's hiking into this

504
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>place and he gets about a quarter mile away, he said,

505
00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 2>he started feeling like he was being watched. So he

506
00:25:28.799 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 2>was stopping and looking around see if he was being

507
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>stocked by a bear. He said, the feelings he got

508
00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.319
<v Speaker 2>initially were just little twinges of Man, why do I

509
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm being watched? He chalked it up to

510
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe I just spooked myself somehow. He was just dismissing

511
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.200
<v Speaker 2>it away, which he says he'll never do again. However,

512
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:50.160
<v Speaker 2>he continues on the last quarter mile where he had

513
00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.559
<v Speaker 2>had this particular camp. He had these stringers set up

514
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:54.880
<v Speaker 2>for his tarp because he had a basic wall tent

515
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.440
<v Speaker 2>that was ten by twelve. He didn't have a woodstove

516
00:25:57.480 --> 00:25:59.920
<v Speaker 2>for it, but it was nice canvas and easy to

517
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.640
<v Speaker 2>set up for him just one person. He had this

518
00:26:02.680 --> 00:26:06.119
<v Speaker 2>particular pole that he had run to the top. Now,

519
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 2>anyone who's used these wall tents from like Alaska tent

520
00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>and tarp, it has the big openings at the top

521
00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 2>so he can run something through it, and then you

522
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:14.599
<v Speaker 2>got the tie offs and all that kind of stuff, right,

523
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 2>He was looking for the pole and the tie ups.

524
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.480
<v Speaker 2>He found the strings that were still attached to the

525
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 2>particular trees, but they had a whole bunch of weird

526
00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:25.559
<v Speaker 2>knots and twists and all sorts of stuff, And he

527
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:29.000
<v Speaker 2>was thinking the wind didn't do this just because of

528
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the intricacy of how it was all knotted and woven together.

529
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>He found the pole that he had used a few

530
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>times for this particular tint, but he said he walked

531
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:41.680
<v Speaker 2>past it a few times because it had been driven

532
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.319
<v Speaker 2>into the ground and it looked like just a broken

533
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 2>old tree there, but it was actually about a twelve

534
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:49.839
<v Speaker 2>foot pole only had about three feet sticking out of

535
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 2>the ground. He said. He tried to pull it out

536
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 2>after he realized what it was, and he couldn't get

537
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>it the budge, and so he left it. And he

538
00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>was as perplexed now as he went to to cut

539
00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>down another small tree to make use to set up

540
00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 2>his tent, he said he got that tinge of being

541
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:10.720
<v Speaker 2>watched again. Now he's in the middle of these trees,

542
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot of black spruce, a little bit of alders,

543
00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.519
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of willows, but it was mainly black spruce,

544
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and it was real dense because the trees stuck on

545
00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>each other, and they're all dark, so it's really hard

546
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:24.079
<v Speaker 2>to see beyond maybe twenty feet at the most. He's

547
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 2>peeking around. He felt like whatever was watching him was

548
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:31.200
<v Speaker 2>like right on top of him and just wasn't seeing anything.

549
00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 2>So being distracted like that, he stopped what he was doing.

550
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:39.079
<v Speaker 2>He backed away from what he was doing and made

551
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>sure he had rounds in the chambers of his weapons.

552
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>He said, when he was checking the bolt action of

553
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>the rifle he was using, it was a three thirty

554
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>eight win mag When he locked the bolt, he heard

555
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 2>an imitation of that click sound from off in the distance.

556
00:27:56.119 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>He said it was very strange because it was almost

557
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 2>but not quite but too loud, and at first he

558
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 2>didn't recognize it as a mimic of that bolt until

559
00:28:07.799 --> 00:28:10.039
<v Speaker 2>he thought about it for a second. And then as

560
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.680
<v Speaker 2>he's standing there, he opened the bolt again, not all

561
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:14.599
<v Speaker 2>the way to expel the around or anything like that,

562
00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:16.640
<v Speaker 2>not too ejected, but just popped it up and then

563
00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:21.480
<v Speaker 2>did it again and listened and heard nothing, and he thought, wow,

564
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm hyper paranoid. I'm overthinking this. Maybe I just

565
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 2>need to chill out for a second. So he decides

566
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna sit down and take a break. As he's

567
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>doing so, there's something just in his mind going something mate, right,

568
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:37.839
<v Speaker 2>something mate right. From what he was saying, after about

569
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.160
<v Speaker 2>ten to fifteen minutes to just sitting there, he didn't

570
00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.799
<v Speaker 2>feel relaxed. He didn't calm down at all. If anything,

571
00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 2>he felt things were heightened, things were escalating, even though

572
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing that happened outside of that sound he heard.

573
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 2>That's all that has happened, right, And so he's trying

574
00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>to console himself and say, hey, man, what are you doing.

575
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>You're getting worked up for nothing. You're out here. You've

576
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 2>been out here before. There's never been a problem in

577
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>the area. He's dealt with wolves a couple times, but

578
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>they always stayed their distance and took off. Never were

579
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>really a new sence or he didn't feel in any

580
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 2>real danger from him. So he said, as he was

581
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 2>sitting there in about the fifteen minute mark, he's g

582
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:17.799
<v Speaker 2>estimating because he was lost in his thoughts. Off to

583
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 2>his left, he noticed movement.

584
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 3>He know.

585
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the black spruce kind of wiggling right,

586
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 2>which was odd because there was no wind at the moment.

587
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 2>None of the other ones were wiggling. Just one about

588
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>third row back, if you were to count him, it

589
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 2>was about the third tree back from his opening that

590
00:29:35.960 --> 00:29:39.519
<v Speaker 2>he saw wiggling. Got his attention. He starts looking, stands

591
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 2>up and he's looking that direction. He said, at that

592
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 2>moment he felt like he was being watched again. Even stronger,

593
00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>but he felt it coming from behind him, so he

594
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 2>whips around and looks there's nothing there. So he stands

595
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:56.359
<v Speaker 2>there a minute. Then there's a wind gust and the

596
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>tree start moving, and he laughs at himself because he

597
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.319
<v Speaker 2>just assumed, Okay, there must have been a gust over

598
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>here that I didn't notice. Had just caught my attention.

599
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:07.079
<v Speaker 2>I need to calm him down. I'm freaking myself out.

600
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be

601
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:12.759
<v Speaker 3>right back after these messages.

602
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>So again, he takes a moment. He had one of

603
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 2>these little stoves that he can quickly boil up some coffee,

604
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:24.039
<v Speaker 2>so he did that. He figured, all right, I'm just

605
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:27.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna make some coffee, take a breather, and then I'll

606
00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:30.519
<v Speaker 2>get back to finishing setting up camp. He said, once

607
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>he got done with this coffee, he felt a lot better.

608
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:35.440
<v Speaker 2>He was a lot more reassured that he's just buying,

609
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:37.559
<v Speaker 2>and he goes back over to the tree he had

610
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>hatchets off a bunch of limbs from that he's going

611
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.000
<v Speaker 2>to use for his tent. He gets back to it,

612
00:30:43.559 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>he said, he's spent about another thirty minutes dropping that

613
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:49.319
<v Speaker 2>cleaning up the branch as to where they don't catch

614
00:30:49.359 --> 00:30:50.759
<v Speaker 2>up on the tent and tearet and all that kind

615
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>of stuff, and he starts getting it set. Now along

616
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:57.319
<v Speaker 2>with these tight unds, he had some other cordage that

617
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 2>he had to support this log so he could run

618
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>it through the tent, lifted up, put one end through

619
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>a hoop that it had just hang on because it's

620
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>just a wall tent, and the other end he could

621
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 2>do the same thing. One of the hoops was there

622
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.400
<v Speaker 2>and the other one wasn't, and so he took the

623
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>moment to tie off another basically hoop to stick the

624
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.759
<v Speaker 2>poll through. And he said after he got done tying it,

625
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>sensed it up and was good with it, and he

626
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.000
<v Speaker 2>was checking out make sure it looked level or at

627
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>least level enough. He said. He went into the tent

628
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.000
<v Speaker 2>had a couple of shorter pieces of branches that he

629
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>had cut to pop it out a little bit. He said,

630
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't know why he decided to do that, because

631
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>normally he would just tie off where they got the

632
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>little ties on the outside and just draw it out

633
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>to give it its shape or whatever. He was like,

634
00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why I went in there and I

635
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 2>put these branches to prop it. And then he caught himself,

636
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:48.759
<v Speaker 2>like what am I doing? This is not what I

637
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>normally do, And he kind of chuckles to himself and

638
00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>comes back out of the tent backwards. He kind of

639
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.759
<v Speaker 2>shuffles himself back, stands up, and he looks around again.

640
00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>He sees nothing. He continues setting up the tent, and

641
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>he said, about ten minutes after he got done with that,

642
00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 2>he hears what he assumes is someone laughing. For the

643
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>life of him, was like, who's laughing at me? He's

644
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.400
<v Speaker 2>looking around, He's not hearing anything else, just some brief laughter.

645
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I asked him in what context was the laughter? Was

646
00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 2>that high pitched? Low pitch? What did it sounded like?

647
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, it just sounded like some chuckling. He's

648
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.680
<v Speaker 2>really confused, you know what I mean. So he takes

649
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>a moment, he possesses the area in the scenery, and

650
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>he's not seeing anything, and so he's, man, I must

651
00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>be losing my damn mind. He goes in, he sets

652
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>up his cot, he sets up some other stuff inside

653
00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 2>this tent to get the stuff out of the open

654
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:43.799
<v Speaker 2>and tucked away, and everything had its place. He said

655
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:45.759
<v Speaker 2>he was inside right after he set up to kotty,

656
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>he sat on it and he was sitting there listening outside,

657
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 2>and that's when he first heard something moving. And he said,

658
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>when he heard it moving, he couldn't pinpoint where it was,

659
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:58.359
<v Speaker 2>but he could tell whatever it was large, because every

660
00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 2>once in a while you would hear some branches breaking,

661
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>like something large pushing through the brush, right, he said,

662
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>at that moment, he was like, okay, there is something

663
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>out there. I'm not losing my mind. There is something

664
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 2>or someone out there. So he comes out of the tent.

665
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.079
<v Speaker 2>He happened to leaned his rifle right against the tree

666
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that supported the tent, that had the pole tied off

667
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>to it, right, which once it's supported, it's basically the

668
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.920
<v Speaker 2>top of the opening. So he steps out. His rifle's

669
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 2>right there. He grabs it, and he starts yelling out, hey,

670
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm over here, basically to give a warning to anyone

671
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.319
<v Speaker 2>who might be just wandering through doing their own hunt

672
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Hey, there's someone here, he yelled at a

673
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 2>few times. Nothing. He's standing there quiet for a moment,

674
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.519
<v Speaker 2>and then he hears that movement again. It's off to

675
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:45.119
<v Speaker 2>his left at a distance that he couldn't really tell

676
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>how far away, But he knew it was at a

677
00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 2>decent enough distance that he wouldn't be able to see

678
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.880
<v Speaker 2>whatever's moving. I thought about it a minute. He goes,

679
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.079
<v Speaker 2>it might be a good sized moose. Maybe it was sleeping.

680
00:33:56.839 --> 00:33:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that chuckle or laugh I heard was it just

681
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>somehow rubbing his antler's funny against some brush and it

682
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>sounded like that. He's explaining things away in his mind,

683
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:09.280
<v Speaker 2>so he decides he's going to go that direction. He

684
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 2>hears the sound and creep through and see if it

685
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>is a moose. He's got plenty of daylight still. He

686
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>goes for it. He starts trekking off to his left

687
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.599
<v Speaker 2>where he was hearing the sound, And as he starts

688
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>moving towards it, and he just gets inside the trees

689
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>from this little clearing where he had his camp set up.

690
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>He said he heard movement behind him just as he

691
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.039
<v Speaker 2>got out of the clearing and stepped into the trees.

692
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, he's hearing movement behind him, So

693
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 2>it gets his attention. He turns around, he's looking. He

694
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.880
<v Speaker 2>sees nothing. I wonder if there's some weird echo going

695
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 2>on or something. Right, So he pauses a second and

696
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 2>then he hears the movement up ahead of him, so

697
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>he goes, all right, let me continue. He weaves through

698
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 2>these trees, and he's pushing through some spots that are

699
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty tight to get through because some of the trees

700
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 2>grow real close together. He said, as he was pushing through,

701
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 2>he broke one of the branches and it cracked. It

702
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:01.320
<v Speaker 2>was a real crisp snap because it was dead black spruce.

703
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.639
<v Speaker 2>He said that crack sound could crack of a branch.

704
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.800
<v Speaker 2>He said, no sooner than breaking crack. He said, it

705
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>couldn't have been more than fifty feet away. He heard

706
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 2>an imitation of that crack come back to him. He says,

707
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 2>there's no way in hell that branch echoed like that.

708
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 2>He didn't know what to do. He stood there first

709
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 2>second and lost all interest in figuring out what was

710
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.800
<v Speaker 2>moving through the trees. He backs his way out. He's

711
00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>looking all around. He gets back over to his tent.

712
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.760
<v Speaker 2>When he's standing there looking around, he's really super uneasy.

713
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Conrad's former military guy from years back, but not at

714
00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>the military a long time. But he said the only

715
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.920
<v Speaker 2>time he had ever felt that way, the sense of

716
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:45.239
<v Speaker 2>fear he felt was during a combat thing. He didn't elaborate.

717
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't push when it comes to veterans of their

718
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>traumas like that, But he said that was the only

719
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.639
<v Speaker 2>other time he had felt a sense of that type

720
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>of dread. Life was on the line type of thing,

721
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>which in the context where he was at it made

722
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.480
<v Speaker 2>no sense to him, and it can f used him

723
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.440
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to where he was feeling really disoriented.

724
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:07.159
<v Speaker 2>He's looking at his tent. He's feeling like he's lost.

725
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.519
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, this place he's been to times before,

726
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 2>had it already set up as a camp. All of

727
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.639
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it all looked strange to him. Even as

728
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>wall tent was looking strange to him. It was really

729
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:21.039
<v Speaker 2>hard to overcome that, he said. He shook it off

730
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and he went inside the tent. He brought his rifle

731
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>with them. He basically laid on his cop and then

732
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 2>just listened. He said, he doesn't know why he chose

733
00:36:29.639 --> 00:36:32.519
<v Speaker 2>to lay down, but he said, as he was sitting

734
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.599
<v Speaker 2>there just listening, a breeze kicked up to where all

735
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>he heard was trees and rustling of brush and stuff

736
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:41.679
<v Speaker 2>like that. So it just everything as far as the sounds,

737
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.360
<v Speaker 2>this was one melded sound of just when pushing the

738
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.360
<v Speaker 2>brush around. He said, in those moments he ended up

739
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>falling asleep. He knew he was asleep long enough for

740
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>it to be twilight outside when he got up, so

741
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>he said at least five hours had passed from when

742
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 2>he went into the tent to when he woke up

743
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:06.159
<v Speaker 2>to it being twilight. He said he was in shock

744
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>that he slept that long. He felt like he got

745
00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>really good sleep, like he had really slept real hard.

746
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:15.760
<v Speaker 2>So it dawned on him, wait a minute, the circumstances

747
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>leading up to this nap things were strange. But when

748
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>he came out of his tent and he's looking around,

749
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.360
<v Speaker 2>he had his headlamp lit up because it was dark

750
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.880
<v Speaker 2>in the tree line and stuff. He said, he felt

751
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:29.239
<v Speaker 2>comfortable again. He felt himself. He calmed down, He did

752
00:37:29.280 --> 00:37:31.880
<v Speaker 2>his stuff, He started a fire, set up his tarp.

753
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:37.840
<v Speaker 2>He had some makeshift drying racks, basically which anyone who's

754
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>been out in the wild is long enough, they have

755
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 2>their own methodology of doing that. He found the stuff

756
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:45.079
<v Speaker 2>that was laying around from before, had to fashion some

757
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:47.559
<v Speaker 2>new stuff and just started setting up in case it rained,

758
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.679
<v Speaker 2>he'd have place dry stuff and just basically enjoying himself

759
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 2>in his time in the quiet. He sat down in

760
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>his folding chair, he said, when he was sitting there

761
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 2>looking at the fire, but as it got darker, he

762
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.159
<v Speaker 2>stopped looking at the fire because he wanted some kind

763
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 2>of night vision. As he was sitting there and stopped

764
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:08.400
<v Speaker 2>focusing at the fire, he starts looking off across the

765
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.239
<v Speaker 2>little clearing, which he said. The clearing was maybe a

766
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:15.000
<v Speaker 2>fifty foot circle, give or take. It wasn't perfectly circling.

767
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>It was an opening, the little open area. He was

768
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.280
<v Speaker 2>looking across to where he had initially started walking to

769
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 2>follow that sound. As he's looking over that way, just

770
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:28.519
<v Speaker 2>contemplating what had happened earlier, he noticed a dark shadow move,

771
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>and at first he thought he was seeing things. So

772
00:38:31.320 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>he kind of looks at all the treetops to see

773
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 2>if the wind's blowing or anything like that. Right, because

774
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.760
<v Speaker 2>it's twilight and everything is silhouetted all around him, there's

775
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of the flicker of the fire. It

776
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 2>wasn't too big, it wasn't putting off immense amounts of

777
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:47.079
<v Speaker 2>light to light everything up, right, So he sees this

778
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 2>shadow move, he said. When he saw the shadow move,

779
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>he immediately stood up he was looking in that direction

780
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 2>and started hollering out hey. He didn't know what it was, right,

781
00:38:56.800 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>so he started saying, hey, bear, hey, bear, all this

782
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff making himself bigger. He was holding his coat open,

783
00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.960
<v Speaker 2>he said. As he was doing that, he heard that

784
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:09.119
<v Speaker 2>bolt sound again, and it was coming from the direction

785
00:39:09.199 --> 00:39:11.480
<v Speaker 2>he saw the shadow move. I he heard that last

786
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.960
<v Speaker 2>little click sound of a bolt action rifle. The hair

787
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 2>stood up on his arms. The rifle was right next

788
00:39:18.280 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 2>to him. He picked it up, started saying hey. As

789
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 2>he's yelling, he's got a backpack right at the opening

790
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of his tent where he has some very good illumination.

791
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:29.840
<v Speaker 2>He has some nice flashlight, so he goes and retrieves one.

792
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 2>And as he is coming up with the light and

793
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:37.199
<v Speaker 2>clicks it on, he sees eyeshine for a brief moment.

794
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Then it's gone. It's like it just evaporated, which really

795
00:39:41.039 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 2>bugged him out. He's hey, and Almo's playing with you

796
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 2>around here. He goes back in front of his chair

797
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 2>and at that point, he said, as he's holding the flashlight,

798
00:39:48.639 --> 00:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>he set the rifle down and was leaning against him.

799
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 2>He pulled his pistol and popped a couple rounds in

800
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the air to make noise, to let every critter around

801
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.079
<v Speaker 2>know humans here. Human, it's bad for you to get

802
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:03.800
<v Speaker 2>out of here kind of thing. He wasn't shooting at anything,

803
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 2>just pop some rounds in the air to make some noise,

804
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.239
<v Speaker 2>he said. When he did that, where he had last

805
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:13.599
<v Speaker 2>seen this thing, he heard movement moving away real fast. Okay,

806
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>all right, whatever that was was probably a bear. I

807
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 2>probably saw a bear eyeshine. It probably stood up to

808
00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.239
<v Speaker 2>look at me, because he said the eyeshine was at

809
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:24.159
<v Speaker 2>least seven to eight feet in the air, which I

810
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 2>mean for even an interior grizzly, that standing up perspective

811
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 2>in the dark. It's not far fetched, right, So he

812
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.719
<v Speaker 2>feels better about it. Okay, it's a bear wandering around. Now,

813
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I know there's potentially a problem. So what he does

814
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.400
<v Speaker 2>is the noise moved off for a good distance, he said.

815
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>So once his mind calmed down a little bit, he

816
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:49.320
<v Speaker 2>got out his trigger alarms and he started setting him

817
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>up around camp. He set one along the tree line

818
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>all the way around, and then a couple more closer

819
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 2>to his tent. If something reached the outer one, he

820
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.559
<v Speaker 2>had a couple backups that were close to the tent.

821
00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 2>And whatnot. Got all that set up, it got quiet.

822
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:07.599
<v Speaker 2>He was feeling uncomfortable. He felt a little better having

823
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.719
<v Speaker 2>these early warning systems set up, but he said, he

824
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>decided he was going to just go and lay down

825
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:14.559
<v Speaker 2>and wait and listen, so he said, once he laid

826
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.639
<v Speaker 2>on his cot, he sat there for a few minutes,

827
00:41:16.840 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>then proceeded to lay down, but was real antsy. Something

828
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>felt so off. What he did was he got up.

829
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>He started peeking out the tent, looking around again, the

830
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.079
<v Speaker 2>fires dwindling. He didn't have any headlamp on or anything

831
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 2>like that. He's just looking around and listening to see

832
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 2>if there's anything going on that he could pinpoint. Again,

833
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>feeling outside of himself. He did not feel comfortable trekking

834
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 2>back to his plane. He felt like he was pinned

835
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>in and he didn't understand why, because in the big

836
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 2>scheme of things, he saw something move and then he

837
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 2>shot in there and this thing moved away, So it

838
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't like an active attack of a bear or anything

839
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 2>like that. So he comes out of the tent the

840
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:00.880
<v Speaker 2>rest of the way and go out on the sides.

841
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to coop my fire pile a little further

842
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>away from this tarp, and I'm going to build the

843
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>fire bigger. He had already had excess wood from when

844
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:11.599
<v Speaker 2>he cut the pole earlier, all stacked up right there,

845
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:14.280
<v Speaker 2>ready to go. So he took that dry wood through

846
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>it on there, got the fire going bigger, he said.

847
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 2>At that point is when the shadows really started moving.

848
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>He said, Once that flame got big enough to light

849
00:42:25.079 --> 00:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>up the outskirts of this little opening, this little clearing,

850
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.639
<v Speaker 2>he started seeing shadows moving. At first, he thought he

851
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 2>was really losing his shit, because it made no sense

852
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that there would be three separate shadows out in front

853
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.280
<v Speaker 2>of his tent moving like that. He thought it was

854
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>a figment of his imagination, like he was somehow having

855
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>a hallucination. Until one of those shadows moved just off

856
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 2>to the right, a little bit towards the left, and

857
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.519
<v Speaker 2>it actually hit that early warning system that trigger. It

858
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:58.360
<v Speaker 2>popped off a twelve gage round, a bird shot he

859
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.039
<v Speaker 2>had that eclipsed his little thing, and you nail it

860
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 2>to a tree or use a screw gun, pulls the

861
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 2>trigger on it and it fires the shell that goes off,

862
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.559
<v Speaker 2>and it startles a shit out of him. He immediately

863
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 2>draws his pistol. At that point, he had just set

864
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the rifle down leaning against his folding chair and knocked

865
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.719
<v Speaker 2>it over with the weight and stuff. So he immediately

866
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:18.800
<v Speaker 2>pulls the pistol and is looking in the direction and

867
00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 2>this shadow just disappears into the darkness, and he doesn't

868
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.960
<v Speaker 2>know what to do. He said, once that one moved

869
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a way after it triggered the early warning system. The

870
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 2>other shadows, he could hear movement moving away, and he

871
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 2>didn't no longer see the shadow, so he was like, crap,

872
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.519
<v Speaker 2>now what do I do? So basically he's there in

873
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the dark. There's something going on that triggered the early

874
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 2>warning system, he said. At that point he gave up

875
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.320
<v Speaker 2>on giving a crap. He grabbed his backpack. He grabbed

876
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.360
<v Speaker 2>all his good stuff as flashlights, the stuff he'd need

877
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>as a little stove, a couple of the dehydrated mountain packs,

878
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff for something to eat. And he said, I

879
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 2>am not staying in these trees. I'm gonna get out

880
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:01.559
<v Speaker 2>into the open of the tundra. Take my chances in

881
00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the open. He had approximately, he said, a little over

882
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards of weaving through the black spruce on

883
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.639
<v Speaker 2>his little trail that he had made over a couple

884
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.559
<v Speaker 2>seasons to get out into the opening and then work

885
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.639
<v Speaker 2>his way back to where he had landed. He said,

886
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.440
<v Speaker 2>as he was going through there, every third or fourth

887
00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.440
<v Speaker 2>step he was hearing something big moving behind him, so

888
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:25.679
<v Speaker 2>he would turn around and all he would ever catch

889
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:29.119
<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of was a dark shadow just barely moving

890
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the way. He wasn't seeing full on silhouettes

891
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:35.719
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that at this point, It's just shadows moving, right.

892
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>So he would take three or four more steps, same thing,

893
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and every time he turn around he would just miss

894
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:44.559
<v Speaker 2>seeing all of whatever it was. He would only catch

895
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 2>a glimpse of this dark shadow moving off behind the tree.

896
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:50.119
<v Speaker 2>So he started really freaking out after about third fourth

897
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 2>time of that, right and starts screaming out, starts popping

898
00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 2>more rounds with this pistol into the air, telling her, hey,

899
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.119
<v Speaker 2>you let me see you again, I'm gonna kill you. Basically,

900
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:00.079
<v Speaker 2>just vent.

901
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see will be

902
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:05.920
<v Speaker 3>right back after these messages.

903
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:13.159
<v Speaker 2>Whether they understoodhim or not, have no clue, he said.

904
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:17.239
<v Speaker 2>As soon as he got through getting out onto the tundra,

905
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 2>and he got about fifty feet away, he took a

906
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 2>breather because he said he felt like he was going

907
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:23.760
<v Speaker 2>to have a heart attack, even though he was in

908
00:45:23.800 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 2>perfect health and everything. He said, his blood pressure must

909
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>have been jacked. He could feel his heart beat in

910
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 2>his eyes. He was panicky, he felt nauseous. And as

911
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 2>he's beaming back towards the tree line he had just

912
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>left from, he was noticing when he would beam over here,

913
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 2>there'd be a shadow just off to the side, start moving,

914
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 2>and he would beam over there and they'd be vice versa.

915
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 2>So everywhere he was turning he would see a bit

916
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 2>of shadow movement. He realized some of that was the

917
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 2>effect of the light was giving him a strange kind

918
00:45:53.119 --> 00:45:55.079
<v Speaker 2>of effects. So when he was beaming over here, there'd

919
00:45:55.119 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 2>be a slight shadow from a tree in front that

920
00:45:57.079 --> 00:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>would cast and it would look like movement of something. Right,

921
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 2>So he calmed down, took a second and started breathing deep,

922
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:08.000
<v Speaker 2>catching his breath. He had killed the flashlight and he's

923
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.599
<v Speaker 2>basically on his knees in the dark, listening. That's when

924
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 2>he heard the first scream off in the distance. He said.

925
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 2>When he heard that scream, he was back to his feet,

926
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>immediately picked up his backpack, threw it on his shoulder.

927
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.679
<v Speaker 2>He was still holding his pistol in his hand, and

928
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 2>then he grabbed his rifle, turned around and started walking

929
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 2>away from the tree line. He said he got a

930
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.679
<v Speaker 2>little further and he heard that the heavy bipedal footsteps.

931
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:38.239
<v Speaker 2>He said it felt like it was real close to him,

932
00:46:38.239 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 2>but when he turned around with the flashlight and everything,

933
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.360
<v Speaker 2>there was absolutely nothing there. He said it happened twice.

934
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.679
<v Speaker 2>The first time he looked around nothing, He turned around,

935
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 2>took about ten more steps or so roughly, and heard

936
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.599
<v Speaker 2>it again. But the second time he turned and hit

937
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the beam. He saw one of these shadow figures moving

938
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>just inside the trees, and it was moving at a

939
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>pretty good clip. That's when he really started losing it.

940
00:47:01.480 --> 00:47:04.639
<v Speaker 2>He started popping shots at the shadow. There was some

941
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:08.199
<v Speaker 2>real strange noises that he assumed was coming from back

942
00:47:08.239 --> 00:47:10.719
<v Speaker 2>by where he had set up his little camp. Then

943
00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>he heard this loud crash and break and he was like, oh, whatever,

944
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it is just clash my tent. Because he heard that

945
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:19.800
<v Speaker 2>pole that he was using to hold up the canvas

946
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 2>tent when it fell down. He heard it hit his

947
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 2>cooler that he had in there. It was just one

948
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.199
<v Speaker 2>of those small ones that you see guys using construction

949
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 2>for lunch. He heard it hit that and it made

950
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a weird plastic noise, so he knew that noise. He

951
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:34.920
<v Speaker 2>recognized it. He's all, crap, whatever this is tearing out

952
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 2>my stuff. At that point he really didn't care. Turns around,

953
00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>starts going again, and he said, at one point something

954
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:46.719
<v Speaker 2>told him turn around. Turn around. Now it was just intuition,

955
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it. He turns around and

956
00:47:49.079 --> 00:47:51.960
<v Speaker 2>he's beaming, and when he looks, he sees this thing.

957
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>When it gets the light on it, he said, it

958
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 2>squatted down. It was right next to one of these

959
00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.119
<v Speaker 2>black spruce right at the edge of the line. At

960
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.039
<v Speaker 2>this point, he's a good he said, probably one hundred

961
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 2>feet from this tree line. You gotta understand, walking in

962
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the tundra, there's dibbots in there. It's uneven terrain. It's

963
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 2>real spongy, real mossy. So as he's looking at this

964
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 2>thing squatted down, he said, at the vanished point he had,

965
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.000
<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was just all black through and

966
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:24.039
<v Speaker 2>through until he noticed the little bit of eye glimmer

967
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 2>that was coming back from his light. The thing was

968
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.199
<v Speaker 2>looking down. It would periodically look up and that's when

969
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:31.320
<v Speaker 2>he would see eye shine. But when he had looked down,

970
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:33.960
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't seen as much eye shine, and he was

971
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.559
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out what he was looking at. He said.

972
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:40.559
<v Speaker 2>It looked like basically a caveman. He said when it

973
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:44.400
<v Speaker 2>would look down, he could see a big eyebrow. As

974
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.760
<v Speaker 2>he would look at it and it would glance up.

975
00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:50.440
<v Speaker 2>He said, it was like almost a maniacal kind of

976
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.599
<v Speaker 2>grin that it was shorting. Every time it looked up,

977
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:56.960
<v Speaker 2>it would have this weird grin showing its teeth. He said.

978
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>The teeth appeared to be blocked teeth like a horse.

979
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Everything's happening real fast, understand that. So he starts yelling, hey,

980
00:49:05.239 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 2>get out of here, get out of here. I will

981
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>shoot you. When he says I will shoot you, that's

982
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:14.480
<v Speaker 2>when he hears some whoops and screams he assumes is

983
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 2>coming from where his camp was at the distance. That's

984
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:20.239
<v Speaker 2>what he was thinking in his mind's eye. No sooner

985
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>than that happens as he glances that direction when he

986
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>hears those whoops and those weird noises, and he looks

987
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.239
<v Speaker 2>back over to where his flashlight was. What he was

988
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 2>just looking at, squatted down, is gone it's just gone.

989
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.599
<v Speaker 2>He beams all around, sees nothing, so he says, screw

990
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.880
<v Speaker 2>this noise, starts heading towards his plane. He said he

991
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't stop until he got to his plane. He almost

992
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.480
<v Speaker 2>got lost a couple times as he was going along

993
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>because of hey, they had gotten so dark. He was

994
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:54.519
<v Speaker 2>just trying to basically corner distance from these things, whatever

995
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and the hell they were, so, he said, eventually, when

996
00:49:57.440 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>he got to his plane, he just climbed in, got

997
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 2>in the back, had his gun ready just in case,

998
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>and tried to sleep. He said. A couple of times

999
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.880
<v Speaker 2>he dozed off. Then he heard something off in the distance,

1000
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 2>like a woman being murdered type scream. He sat up,

1001
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.559
<v Speaker 2>He looks around. He's not seeing anything right up on

1002
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.519
<v Speaker 2>the plane. So what he does is he pops the

1003
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:20.239
<v Speaker 2>door and he beams the light off in the distance.

1004
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing immediately in the foreground, but off in the

1005
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:26.800
<v Speaker 2>distance he sees this shadow moving, and he said it

1006
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>was shaped like a man, but it was at enough

1007
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 2>of a distance that he could not fully make out.

1008
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.159
<v Speaker 2>He said, whatever it is looked huge, and he was

1009
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:37.800
<v Speaker 2>walking on two feet, and it walked off into the darkness,

1010
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.800
<v Speaker 2>out of the range of his light. Then he turned

1011
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 2>off the light and that's when he'd hear the noise

1012
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.440
<v Speaker 2>again a little while later, same things. He said, Up

1013
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:52.440
<v Speaker 2>until the morning first light, these shadows were basically moving

1014
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.400
<v Speaker 2>in closer and closer each time he would hear this

1015
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.960
<v Speaker 2>weird noise, And he thought it was weird that he

1016
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.320
<v Speaker 2>would hear the noise first, almost like they're giving themselves

1017
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 2>away for him to look. It made no sense to him.

1018
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:08.679
<v Speaker 2>Eventually that all stopped once first light started showing on

1019
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.559
<v Speaker 2>the horizon and stuff. And he said at that point

1020
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:14.599
<v Speaker 2>he was out with his rifle hoping to get a

1021
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:18.519
<v Speaker 2>shot on something. He felt tormented. He felt like he

1022
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.440
<v Speaker 2>was being toyed with. Once the sunlight was pre dawn

1023
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.519
<v Speaker 2>light enough to start seeing pretty damn clearly, he said,

1024
00:51:26.719 --> 00:51:30.239
<v Speaker 2>there was no other sounds, no other shadows moving. He

1025
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:34.119
<v Speaker 2>decided that he would come back another time to gather

1026
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 2>up his stuff. He ended up flying out of there

1027
00:51:37.079 --> 00:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>as soon as he could, had to warm up, had

1028
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a taxi and take off and all that. He said.

1029
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 2>It was approximately a month later, at the end of

1030
00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:47.639
<v Speaker 2>his work season, that he had made it back to

1031
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.320
<v Speaker 2>this place. He brought his friend. He explained what happened

1032
00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 2>his friend understood, didn't quite get it, but understood, Hey,

1033
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 2>this is my buddy. He'd been through some stuff and

1034
00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.639
<v Speaker 2>he knew him to be truthful, So Conrad, he's his buddy.

1035
00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:03.920
<v Speaker 2>To where his campsite was, he said, outside of the

1036
00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:08.719
<v Speaker 2>tent being clapsed down, that cooler was missing. Every piece

1037
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 2>of rope that there was hanging that he had just

1038
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:16.599
<v Speaker 2>added or had been there was all twisted up with sticks.

1039
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.480
<v Speaker 2>So he said, it's basically like someone with a tourniquit

1040
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 2>got a round piece of rope stick of stick through

1041
00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>and then twisted up right. He said, they were all

1042
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.519
<v Speaker 2>twisted up like that. But the weird thing was is

1043
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the way they were stuck into the tree was like

1044
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.280
<v Speaker 2>something very large took this stick and bam, just dug

1045
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:37.159
<v Speaker 2>it into the dead tree right boom, just enough to

1046
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.519
<v Speaker 2>keep the rope coiled up and stuck to the tree.

1047
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:42.679
<v Speaker 2>He said, it was the damnedest thing. He tried to

1048
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.559
<v Speaker 2>get a hold of his buddy that he brought with

1049
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 2>to grab his stuff because his buddy had taken pictures

1050
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 2>of these twisted up ropes and stuff. He was unable

1051
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.440
<v Speaker 2>to get a hold of them prior to me filming this.

1052
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.440
<v Speaker 2>He hasn't been back to that place since. He has

1053
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.679
<v Speaker 2>since found new places to camp. As far as his

1054
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.880
<v Speaker 2>time off, I want to thank Conrad for reaching out.

1055
00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 2>He almost didn't. I just appreciate him being willing to

1056
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.199
<v Speaker 2>share what happened with them, even though it was more

1057
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 2>freaky than anything, because let's be honest, if they had

1058
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.280
<v Speaker 2>moved in quickly, we would have never heard Conrad's story.

1059
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 2>But it triggers the thought, what are they gaining by

1060
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 2>scaring people? In so many of these cases, it's almost

1061
00:53:21.559 --> 00:53:25.639
<v Speaker 2>like they intentionally want the fear versus the outright attack you,

1062
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:28.760
<v Speaker 2>which is just mind boggling. It's almost like the energy

1063
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:31.920
<v Speaker 2>vampire of some kind. It just real weird. We will

1064
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 2>catch you guys real soon. They say, you don't gotta

1065
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 2>go home, but you can't stay.

1066
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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be out there.

1067
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Steps step, Joy, this child, that child, everything came right back,

1068
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 5>right back, Joy for me, Joy staying right.

1069
00:54:23.079 --> 00:55:01.360
<v Speaker 4>You come it right away, Still stay, stay, stays, Still

1070
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:13.440
<v Speaker 4>sad down.

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<v Speaker 5>Knocking down, Don Doss games, still steps and stassssss