Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.
Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you
walk in the woods, you walk in their front door,
thinking that you are going to surprise them. You're only
kidding yourself.
Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.
Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring awareness
to this topic, to be an open door for somebody
to walk through, to be able to share their story,
a listening ear, a support hold for those who have
had their own encounters with that which is not.
Speaker 3: Supposed to exist.
Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes people, there is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable, good people out there that
have seen something. Marianne, what's up, ma'am? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you? Sir?
Speaker 1: Doing very very well? Very well? And before we get
into it, don't want to warn everybody. I don't know
if you can tell from outside. It's been raining all day,
so I'm hoping that that won't interfere with the the
reception or the covers, the service or whatever. Maybe we
can get through it without any issues. Hopefully. How you doing, man,
I'm doing phenomenal.
Speaker 3: And hay to everybody in the chat. You know, my
my brothers and sisters from other mothers. You know, it's
good to see everybody. It's not been that long that
we were all together, and it won't be that long
till we're all together again.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, we just hung out a Smoky Mountain
conference and you are going to be speaking at my
event at the end of this month.
Speaker 3: Yes, I am, Yes, I'm fine. That's a good he there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been talking a lot to Chris over the last
few days, making final preparations and getting everything lined up.
Chris has been with getting everything set up for the
squatch out this year. Can't thank her enough for everything
that she's doing. She's been great. But yeah, looking forward
to that. How long of a drive is it going
to be for you, Mariam?
Speaker 3: Four and a half five hours? So not bad?
Speaker 1: Not bad? Is it closer? It's a little bit closer
than the Smoky's all right?
Speaker 3: Oh lord? Yeah, Smokey's is a nine hour drive.
Speaker 1: Oh shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And and we had to sit in Nashville
for an hour because of clean up of the wreck,
you know. But yeah, it's only like four and a
half five hours something like that, so it's not bad
at all. We can leave the house at seven in
the morning and be there in the early afternoon.
Speaker 1: So now, have you ever been to the LBO?
Speaker 3: I have not. I have not. I've heard a lot
of you.
Speaker 1: That's going to ask have you ever heard anything about
the LBO? And if so, what have you heard?
Speaker 3: Oh lord, I've heard all kinds of shit about that place.
I mean I've heard, you know, bigfoot stories, dog man stories,
just creepy you know everything. So I'm kind of I'm
kind of excited because you know, I don't know what
exactly to expect.
Speaker 1: Oh, you know, I mean we're all just wasting our
time because we all know there's nothing in the LBL.
Speaker 3: Right, it's just a piece of land, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a peninsula. There's no way need walk you know,
on the land to get there. No, it's and you.
Speaker 3: Know, Heaven forbid, maybe maybe it can swim across.
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean that's that blow people's mind. No,
we can't talk about them. Too many. There's too many
people that visit the LBL every year for there to
be any kind of cryptid creature out there.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, they're the experts, not us.
Speaker 1: I love stupid people. If you're around if you're around
stupid people, you're gonna life, you know, don't you don't people.
Speaker 3: Or your head against the wall, one or the other.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure of both. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, this
would be my third trip to d LBL, and God,
I hope we have better weather.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys have not had the best weather down there.
I'm not really sure. I might be signing up for something,
you know, you guys might be a bad weather magnet.
Speaker 1: Everywhere else I go, we tend to have pretty good luck,
but it's just some LBO. Troy and I went, I
think it was two years ago Troy's birthday. We went,
just he and I and camped out for a couple
of days, and it rained for twenty three straight hours.
And that's not an exaggeration. It started at midnight one
night and it rained NonStop until eleven pm the next day.
It was terrible and we were in you know, we
were in grass and mud and dirt and everything. So,
oh my god, it was we were soggy sons of bitches.
Speaker 3: So what time of the year was that when you
did that?
Speaker 1: January? Oh? Okay, yeah, so it was it was still
cold too, pretty sure? Is January, toy? Your birthdays in January? Right?
He let us know.
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 1: And then last time was just it wasn't that long
ago at all. A couple of months ago, and we
had that bad storm came through and almost killed one
of your speakers.
Speaker 3: Well, we're so glad the day that survived that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we laughed, but we laughed.
Speaker 3: Now you were not laughing, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: Not laughing at the time because that looked really really bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Well, you know this time, I mean August, Yeah,
I mean there could be storms anytime, but usually August
it's not you know, August. For September, it's not quite
as bad, you know, not as likely.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, all right, guys. I want to remind
everyone if you have any questions from Marianne's not please
give me a solid and put those in all caps
so that I can get to them. But you know,
we we're mainly here Marianne to talk about your conference
that you have coming up. Tell everybody a little bit
about what they can expect this year and when, where,
and just who's going to be there.
Speaker 3: Okay, not a problem, we can do that. So we've
changed it up a little bit this year. We're having
a VIP night. This is the first year for that,
and it is going to be at the Elks Lodge
here in Ozark, and we are catering. At dinner, we're
going to be having a smoked you know, smoked chicken,
smoked pork, you name it. We've got it right. I
think we're going to have some ribs too, and we're
going to after dinner's over, we are going to have
a taping of a podcast. What we're going to do
is as everybody comes in for the dinner. We're going
to give them a note card and they get to
write a question on it, right, and then we're going
to have the speakers pull those questions out and they
have to answer whatever it is in real time, you know,
and we can kind of have a conversation about things
like that, get it recorded, have some fun doing that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: That gives them all a little bit extra time with
you guys that are going to be speaking. And then Saturday,
starting at nine am, is the conference and it is
at the Relics Event Center in Springfield, and that's going
to go till around four thirty. And so we've got
Da Roberts and he is a local writer and researcher
here in Missouri. We've got Shane Carpenter who is also
local for us and he is a researcher here. He's
got the documentary into the four hundred on what is
it on Amazon? And Crime? Yeah, I think it's on there.
And we've got David s again and he's down you know,
in your neck of the woods. He's the he's the
forensic investigator and I'm super excited to learn all the
things he's going to be teaching us. So then of
course yourself, you will be speaking, you'll be up there
entertaining us, so you know, we're excited about that. And
then of course this year we've got RPG who's going
to be in seeing and also he's going to speak
that day too, so it should be very interesting. And
then myself and Larry Newman we're going to do a
little promo for the BFR during all that time too,
So it's going to be a full day. You're going
to learn lots of things. You know, we invite everybody
to come out. Now, those tickets for those two events,
you can get those on event right, and there's a
couple of different ways you can do it. You can
do the VIP night by itself if that's the only
thing you can come to, and there is a limited
number of those because the place that we're having it
is not very big. And then the day of the
conference tickets those are on event bright, or there's also
a package deal where you can get the VIP night
and the event ticket. It's so there's three different tickets
on event Bright. And then so what we're going to do,
like we've always done, is as soon as we're done
with the conference, we're going to jump in the trucks
and take off to the boonies to camp out.
Speaker 1: So enough real magic happens people.
Speaker 3: It definitely does, It definitely does. We will be leaving
straight from the conference and going out to private property
and we are going to be out there Saturday night
through Wednesday morning. And that we've had activity every time
we've been out there. We've had something. Every time we're
out there, the homeowner has activity. Sometimes it's just little things,
but sometimes that's all it takes is that little stuff.
But so it's primitive camping. We do have porta potties,
we do have running water. There is no electricity whatsoever.
So when you're out there, we're going to feed you
two meals a day. You're going to get a big
breakfast and you're going to get dinner at night. And
we tell everybody bring your coffee cup. We provide the coffee.
If you need snacks, bring your snacks. You know, Now,
those tickets, the only way that you can get those
tickets are to come onto the Ozart Mountain Bigfoot pay
Ozart Mountain Bigfoot conference page on Facebook and you have
to privately message me because those tickets are also we
don't do very many of those, and I think right
now I have ten spots left for that nice. Yeah,
I'm about out of those. So if there's anybody out
there at all that thinks they're gonna want to go,
they better get on it because we're down to about
ten spots left.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's that's nice. The you know, there's plenty
of tickets left for the day of conference. I'm going
to have to check on how many is left for
the VIP event, but yeah, I know, I definitely know
that we're down to about ten spots for out there.
Speaker 1: Okay, everyone about the date? What was the date's Marianne?
Speaker 3: Okay, So the dates for this are October. The third
is the VIP ninth October, the fourth is the conference,
and we're leaving from the conference. So on the fourth
through the eighth is the camp out. And now when
we're out there camping out, we're going to do some things,
so the speakers are you're going to be able to
have one on one time with them. You're also, like
David has agreed to do some more teaching out there,
casting forensics collections. He's agreed to do a lot of that.
Sometimes one of our cook ladies. Martha, she will do
cooking in Dutch ovens. You know, she has little of
the little things of demonstrations of those that she does.
Then Brian, which we didn't talk about. Brian's not speaking
at the conference, but he is speaking at the camp
out He's going to be reading some from his new book,
Coda's Odyssey, and out there he's going to be talking
about the sightings that he had in Washington. So there's
you know, there's a lot more. If you do the
whole complete thing, you just get so much more than
if you just come day of conference. But if you
can only do day of conference, then by all means
come to the conference.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and speaking of Brian real quick, what I
do want to offer him well wishes? Uh you know,
he what happened with Brian this past weekend, had to
be taken in for emergency surgery in Pennsylvania. Last I
talked to him. He's doing well. He might even be
home by now. I haven't haven't heard from him today, but.
Speaker 3: He was supposed to at home yesterday, I believe.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I think he might be home today by now.
But uh, yeah, hang in there, buddy. He the crazy
thing is he was scheduled to have that have it fixed,
this stot today today, you're supposed to have the surgery,
and he made it.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't fast enough, was it.
Speaker 1: He got to penncyl You know, I was getting ready
to speak and everything, and they stay tuned for more
but the big Foot report. We'll be right back. I said, no, buddy,
we're gonna go ahead and do this now. So that
uh yeah, get well, buddy, and can't wait to hang
out with you again. I always have fun.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, we always have fun, you know.
And you have to bring the yellow overalls, you know,
that's just a requested part of it. Now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just go ahead and put those in the car.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just have those ready to go.
Speaker 1: One of these days, I'll get a picture because everybody
asked me about that.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, there'll be a picture this year. I
can't believe that nobody got a picture of that.
Speaker 1: I can't believe y'all are just so fascinated with my overalls.
Speaker 3: We've all threatened to buy our own and be standing
out there waiting for you to come out of the tent.
Speaker 1: You should Is it just that they're yellow?
Speaker 3: I think that's part of it.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, yellow, Well that's just not the typical color,
you know, I mean it isn't. When you come walking
out with yellow overalls, it was.
Speaker 1: Like, holy shit, Okay, you know me, I got to
make a statement everywhere I go, right.
Speaker 3: Right, I understand, I understand. You know, we just caught
us off guard. We were not prepared for that that morning.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was I said it so many times,
we talk about it so often that one of the
most fun times I had was at that event last year.
And it's some of the coolest people that I got
to meet, and it was just fun.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was great to get out away by you don't
have service, so you're not bothered by your phone blowing
up every two minutes. Uh, you you're not far from
driving out if you need to make a phone call,
check on your family or anything like that. You're not
far away from getting service, but.
Speaker 3: You but you have to drive out to get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, about ten minutes or so, I'd say.
But if you just if you just want to unplug
and go out and hang out with just like minded,
good people and go about Bigfoot and other stupid stuff.
You know. It's it's a great, great time for it.
And I think that your a vent is very reasonably prossed.
And uh, I mean obviously because you sell out just
about every year, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the campout usually is right at capacity, you know,
because like I said, we try not to take too
many people out there, you know, first of all, to
be respectful of the landowner. But you know, I don't
want to take fifty or sixty people out there. I've
been on Bigfoot outings that had that many, and it's
it's ridiculous, you know, it's just not you can't go
out and do anything with that many people. And if
we take what we're talking and she's like, what do
we do if something runs in at us? I said,
there's not a damn thing we can do. We can't
get up fast enough to get away from it. She's like, Okay,
We're just gonna sit.
Speaker 1: Here, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's when Shane had the thermal and he was
getting a heat signature in the trees that was somewhere
about five and a half feet tall, and he was
getting like a head and shoulders that was moving around
up there. And that's the same evening that we'd been
growled at. Part of the group had been growled at
as they were going up the hill. So we have
no idea what it was, but you know, it's always so.
Speaker 1: Good now that you bring that up, Marianne, remain for
anyone that's watching to not that isn't familiar with like
past expeditions that you've put on, talk about because you
said you've had stuff happened every year. Talk about some
of the more memorable things that have happened, even if
it wasn't last year the year before. But what stands
out to you that happened on that property.
Speaker 3: Well, the very first year that we camped out out there,
we did it a little bit different, you know. I mean,
we were constantly trying something different to get the exact
right formula for this property. But we'd been out there
a few days and found out that so there's a
gentleman that he lives on the property, and then the
gentleman's son and daughter in law lived there also, and
they're very off grid, you know, they're living off the
land type of thing. And they come along and tell us,
after we've already been there two or three days that
a couple of days ago, there was a flat of
eggs stolen off the porch. And it's one of those
that you have to have, you know, you've got to
have hands to pick this up and carry it or
it's going to flop and fall. Right, So there was
two flats of them and one flat was stolen. Now,
there wasn't any mess, there were no broken eggs, nothing
torn up. It's just that that flat's completely gone. Right,
So it shows up, they come in and tell us.
The third day, it shows up up the road in
the neighbor's yard with one complete row of eggs still
in it, not broken, not touched.
Speaker 1: Now, how do you explain that? And that goes I've
heard from multiple people interviewing people over the years like
I have, how they will talk about.
Speaker 3: Lead.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot will come in and not take everything, not completely
wipe you out of everything. They'll take just something and
leave the rest of it. So you said there was
two flats one.
Speaker 3: Two flats, Yeah, one was left and one was taken,
and I'm going why not grab both? Right? And if
it was bears or coons or possums, they would have
ate it right there, made a mess and made a
mess of both of them, right, So yeah, it ends
up in the name and the neighbor's like, oh the dog.
It's like, dude, really not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly before we move on, Gary Goody, Google just
sent me this and it's not a great picture, but
I thought.
Speaker 3: You get a little bit of the gist.
Speaker 1: There's not a great picture, but they're just yellow. Calm
down people, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: So, you know, that was one of the things that
had happened. So the last night of that very first
year we had, the cook tent was out more in
the middle of the field instead of being off to
the side, and we had a this little storm came
rolling in out of nowhere, right. It destroys the cook
tent and the cook ladies were camped out there by.
They had to abandon theirs and get in the truck.
I mean, it was just ridiculous. For about thirty minutes,
all hell broke loose. Everybody's holding their tents down. You know,
it was just craziness, right, So it stopped. You know,
everybody's like, Okay, we're good. Everybody kind of calms down.
Everybody gets back into their tents and goes to bed.
After this, so next to our tent, there was a
lady parked her vehicle and then on the other side,
Nonah Marty was in there with her and gosh, I
cannot Christa I get I think was the other girl's name.
But anyway, so they're they're like paranormal researchers. They're not
even bigfoot researchers. So Brandy, who was in the vehicle,
she decided to sleep in there because she thought her
bed was wet. And she wakes up in the middle
night she keeps hearing this light. She said it sounded
like metal going tin tink tink tink t t t
you know. And so she wakes up and she's hearing
this and she can't figure out what it is. And
she's in the front seat and she said, she's got
her blanket like pulled up to her nose, you know,
that kind of stuff. And she says, she gets to
looking over toward our tent, and right behind our tent,
she can see this figure standing and she can see
its head and shoulders and she's probably ten to twelve
feet from it, and she said, it's it's right behind
our tent, right, And so she's watching it and she's like,
I didn't know if I should get my phone out
take a picture. She's like, I didn't know what I
should do, So she said, you know, I was scared
to that.
Speaker 1: So what does she do?
Speaker 3: She pulls the blanket over her head and goes to
sleep smart and I'm right, I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But so I was asleep at that point. I was exhausted.
So the next morning I'm getting up and everybody's kind
of running around it and there was a buzz in
the camp, right, And so finally I'm like, okay, what
is going on? And she's telling me that, and we
basically Marty and I had to almost hogtie Daniel Perez
to keep him out of the weeds because we could
see compressions.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: We're like, you're not going in there. And we got
Shane up and Shane was laughing. We've talked about this later.
He goes, I was going to kill you because I
knew there was nothing out there. I just knew you
all were full of it. Right, So we get him
up and we tell him what's going on, and he
starts walking around. He was able to track that thing
all the way around the perimeter of the camp all
the way around it. It had walked all the way
around it. It went in between the porta potties, through
the tents along the creek, up behind the t tints
that were up on the hill a little bit, and
actually came in through somebody else's tent and rummaged around
because they had their tent, and then they had a canopy.
Well it was under the canopy rummaging around. So yeah,
it was just made itself at home after the storm,
you know. And it was like, I don't know, three
point thirty in the morning when this started. And luckily
the people that were there had enough they either looked
at their phone or their watch, and everybody could give
us a time of when it happened, and we talked
to all of them individually first, so nobody would have
known what time was a correct time, right, All the
times synced up with it moving around our camp.
Speaker 1: So you know, you know, you talk about the lady
that pulled the blanket overhead and everything, and I've talked
about it a little different what I've experienced, but I've
talked about it a few times, and I actually asked
Doug Haichek about it one time when when I was
on his show. It's happened to me more than a
couple of times where I'll be out on expedition, asleep
in my tent, sleeping good, and something waked me up
in the middle of the night, one, two, three o'clock
in the morning. And you know, what's the whole reason
I'm there? What's the only reason I'm there? Too fine,
big to look for a big fut But I cannot
make myself get up to go and see what the
hell woke me up. I just it's not fear. I'm
not afraid. I just it's like it's the strangest thing.
It's like I don't have the power or the ability
to to just make myself get up and look and
see what it was.
Speaker 3: Well, that's like I've been out on this property multiple times,
and last year that first night, you know, I wake up,
I gotta go to the bathroom. Well you know how
far the I put the porta potties down at the end, right,
and I'm like, I get up, and I'm like, I am,
I don't know that I can walk that far? Right, Okay,
I'm gonna hop out here behind the tent, No big deal, right, nope,
And I mean our tent backs right up to the creek.
I'm not sure how smart that is. I mean, there's
a fence there, right, but still, you know, first time
I get up, go to the bathroom, No big deal,
I'm good, right, I'm good, get back in, go back
to bed. Way up in the morning, I wake up again,
I'm like, oh my god, are you kidding me? Really? Really,
you know, And I'm laying there trying to wheel it
away and that, you know, I'm like, no, I don't
really need to do this. No I don't need to
do this. No I don't need to do this. Yeah, well, yeah,
I needed to do it. So I get up, same thing.
But when I step out of the tent, oh my god,
it was such a completely different feeling. And I'm like,
oh crap, you know. And so Robert always puts down
a tarp and puts our tent on top of it, right,
So this time I barely got off the tarp on
the side of it because I was not going behind
it for nothing. I mean I was like barely barely
off of it. And the truck's right there, you know.
So I'm like, okay, the truck. I got the truck here,
I got a little bit of you know, I got
a little bit right, and so I am in the
process of what I need to be doing, and oh
my god, there's this commotion on the other side of
the truck. Let me tell you what. If I wasn't
already in the process of using the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I would have right, yes, that one real quick.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So I am like, okay, I'm done, that's it, you know,
getting back in. About the time I get to the
door of the tent, I realize it's my cook ladies
like snoring, turning over and farting or something, you know.
But let me tell you what. I wasn't standing out
there with my pants down to find out what that was.
Speaker 1: I did not know that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my biggest fear is getting caught out therapean.
Speaker 1: Right it literally your pants down?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's yeah, you know so, but yeah, just the
the change in the way the area felt, you know,
it was like there was something there. Now was it
right there? Probably not, but it was there because there
was a whole difference. Because that first time that I
got out to go to the bathroom, I stood there
for a minute. When I'm gonna walk down the bathroom
or am I going to go here?
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more but the big flop report. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I wasn't having any of that. The second time I
got out. Oh no, it was like, oh, you're barely
getting off the tart girl, that's as far as you
are going.
Speaker 1: Isn't that so crazy? Though? That's happened to me so
many times. You'll get out there and you're completely fine.
You walk to the truck, no flashlight and get what
you need to come back. And other times it takes
all your courage just to step out of a tent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it makes no sense because, yeah, there
are times that we're walking through the woods without a light,
you know. And so yeah, it's like I don't have
a problem walking through the woods. I mean, I was
raised country girl. I'm not scared of the woods. But
then there are times when it's like I can't explain,
but I am just like, oh my god, there is
there is something here and I don't know what it is.
And I don't know that I want to know what
it is. I mean I do, but I don't, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's switch gears. Just a little bit.
Go back to the squatch out that we got coming up,
because it's sooner. It's going to be here, sooner than yours,
because we're just a couple weeks away from it, actually, right,
I don't know if you and I've ever talked about this.
I'm sure we have, with as much as we talk
with this has come up, but I don't remember. And
I want you to talk to everyone else about your
feelings about dog Man because where we're going, the stories
are are pretty heavy in that area for dog mans stories.
What do you feel about the whole phenomenon?
Speaker 3: Well, and I know this is you know, we'll probably
irritate some people, but I don't believe it. I'm sorry,
and I'm going to tell you why. Because bigfoot is
biologically possible. Dog Man's not, I'm sorry, A man's body,
dog's feet, dog's head. I mean, is that a wild
science project gone extremely wrong?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Understand that a lot of people have seen things. I
think what's going on, and this is just my personal opinion.
I think it's misidentification of a bigfoot, you know, I
do believe that they can have different features, you know,
And there was a study done on humans a few
years ago that when we are in a high stress situation,
we are so unreliable about being able to tell you distance, height, color.
I mean, it's ridiculous. It's like eighty five percent of
the time we're wrong. So if you're in the woods
and you've had an encounter with something, you're adrenaline is
through the roof and you're scared to death, you know,
and it's like, you know, I mean, Bigfoot's bad enough,
but you know, and that's just what I think, you know,
and dog Man, I hate that name. I hate that name.
I would want to try other people call it a
werewolf or you know, something along those lines, because that's
actually there is a legend you know that comes over
from you know, Europe about that, and you know what
they say about legends, there's always some little bit of
truth in there. Yeah, but you know, and I mean,
I know, I know people will get so mad, so upset.
Oh they're real, they're real.
Speaker 1: You are going to upset some people. I can tell
you because I every time I say and I I
believe just like you do, Marian, and I can't help it.
I can't help but the way I feel. But someone
will always get upset. I mean people that one in
particularly comes to mind that I care about, that I
really like, and she's just she's not happy that I
feel that way, And I just I can't why why
can't we be misidentifying them? What would be wrong with
you know?
Speaker 3: And it's like, and everybody's entitled to their opinion, you know,
they really truly are. I mean, just because I don't
believe in dog Man doesn't mean somebody else can't. It's just,
you know, my brain works from a very logical point
of view. That's like, I can't go in here and
start saying, well, you know, Bigfoot does this, and Bigfoot
does that, and this is this, and this is I
believe Bigfoot is flesh and blood. Are there things that
maybe they are capable of doing that we can't I
can't say they're not. But honestly, I don't believe you
know that they do all the things that people put
to especially and this will make people met too. The
portal thing, right, it's so easy to go, well, they
walk through a portal, Okay, you can't prove any of that,
can't prove any of it that, so that ex you know,
they can say, well, they've walked through a portal. Well,
you can't prove it, you know, I don't know for sure.
Is science has proven that those I believe. Science has
said that the likelihood of portals is out there, right,
but nobody knows how to control them. And it's like,
so to me, this is an easy way to explain everything. Oh,
they went through a portal. That's why their tracks disappeared.
Oh they went through a portal, because you can't see
them now. They went through the portal and disappeared.
Speaker 1: You know, with the same way with them being aliens
or from a spaceship. That's just another easy way to
explain it away. You can't explain one mystery with another mystery.
Speaker 3: No, no, you can't. So you know, I look at
it like this. Okay, so these things, we are essentially
walking into their home. So if I was to come
into your home at night, Wayne, I'm going to bump
and bang into everything because I don't know where it's at.
You're right, and you can get up and walk through
that house with not a light on and not ever
bang into anything. Right, Okay, let's let's put that in
the woods. They know where everything's at. They can move
through there so quietly. And I hate to tell y'all,
but us humans, we're not the most observant, you know.
It's we have gotten so into technology that we can't
go out into the woods and just observe because we
get bored. We're going to have that stupid phone out
in front of our face, you know, and that dulls
your senses. And it's like, if you're just out there
paying attention to the woods, you're going to see a
lot more. If you're sitting there with your nose in
the phone, you're oblivious, you know. But I think these
things are flesh and blood. They're real, you know. I
think they're the masters of their domain. They can move
almost silently, and I think sometimes they just freaking stop
and freeze, you know, because our eyes are trained to
look for movement. Well, as soon as that thing stops
and doesn't move anymore, you've lost it, you know, you've
lost it. So you know, I know there are people
out there that want to talk about, you know, all
the woo and all these things like this and a
tree at all that to them. I think there could
be some you know, because we all consist of energy,
and maybe they can control theirs, and they vibrate at
a different level, and sometimes maybe that is out of
the spectrum of what our eyes can see, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 1: But that's I agree with you. I agree with so
much that you said, Mary, especially like you can explain
Bigfoot being a creature an ape, which is what most
of us, most of us think they are. It's like
a type of primate or a lot of us think that.
I shouldn't say most. But you can't really explain that
with dog Man. I mean, there's there's never been any
confirmed dogs that walked, you know. And when you think
about dog Man, to me, I go one of two ways.
If dog Man exists, and like you, I hate that name.
It makes us look so stupid or sound so childish
and stupid. I wish we had a better name for them.
But if they exist, it's either a damn military science
experiment that went wrong, military thing like some kind of
special weapon that they created something like that. Or I've
always like leaned toward Native American like skin Walker, or
something just demonic, like Robert said, I hear something evil
that was created by something evil, you know, That's what
I lean toward, because you hear stories about bigfoot being
positive and saving a kid or helping people get out
of the woods. You hear stories like that. Have you
ever heard anything good from a big from a dog man?
Speaker 3: No, I really haven't. I mean things I've hurt. And
the same thing with skinwalkers. You don't hear anything positive
about them, you know. Yeah, So I mean, yeah, I
think you're right. I mean there's I don't know, you know,
it's one of those things that, like I said, I
do not believe it's biological. You know, it's either some
science experiments gone greatly wrong.
Speaker 2: I heard.
Speaker 3: I listened to this guy one time. It's one of
the guys that does into the Shadows podcast, and he
was talking about and he's a he's a well to
do individual, right, so it would not do him any
good to come and tell these tell his story. It
might actually hurt him financially, right. And he talked about
being in high school and he ran track, and he
had lived out in the country and he had a
certain part that he would run, you know, and had
an encounter with one of these. But now he described
it as something that was looked like the Egyptian god Anubis.
Speaker 1: Anubis. Yeah, and I've heard I've heard that encounter that
you're talking about, Marianne.
Speaker 3: It was it was compelling, yeah, right, and it's like, okay,
and when I hear it like that, that makes me
think more alien. You know, it's something from somewhere else,
because I mean, I believe in aliens. I mean, it
would be arrogant for us as humans to believe that
we're the only intelligent race anywhere, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, just like it's so arrogant
of us to think that we know everything that's out
there right we don't know.
Speaker 3: Exactly. We don't have a clue. I mean, they're discovering.
Science is discovering new stuff every day. So you know,
if we're going to sit here and go, oh, we
know what all these things are, it's like, yeah, we
we don't. We don't.
Speaker 1: You know, an eight nine foot tall, thousand pounds hair
covered monster living in North America. That's a big deal.
You know that we should have found that by now,
so I can understand everything you know behind that. But
it's so arrogant to think that we know everything that's
out there right right. It's let me ask your opinion, Mariann.
What's it going to take to prove that Bigfoot is real.
Speaker 3: Well, unfortunately, a body. I mean that at this point,
that's what it's going to take, because AI has gotten
so ridiculous that you can't you know, depend on a
photo anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, why are we even still trying to get photos?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know, and that's why too. You know,
when I was talking about the energy and how they vibrate,
you know, it's like maybe that's part of the reason
we don't ever get a good picture is because they're
so distorted sometimes, especially like when they're trying to elude us,
you know, and it's like when we're trying to take
the pictures and that kind of stuff. I mean, I
don't know, because you know, when you start talking about
these things, then you you get ten more questions to
the one you just asked. You know, it's a never
ending rabbit hole of you know what it could be.
But I think we have to have a body. I
will not be the one that brings that body in.
If I find a body, I might bring a part
of it, but I'm not going to be the one
that put the body down and keeping the government out
of it.
Speaker 1: Once we get a body, that might be your biggest
issue right there.
Speaker 3: Oh, it probably would be. Probably would be.
Speaker 1: And I have talked about on that Bigfoot podcast. We
did a whole episode on it, and like trying to
develop the proper protocol amongst everyone in the bigfoot community.
What do we do if what you just explained, if
that happens, say we find a find a dead infant
baby bigfoot in the woods, something we can pick up
and carry, and you got the whole body, you know,
what do we do? Who do we call? Who do
you feel comfortable calling?
Speaker 3: Nobody? Yeah, nobody, because you call the one wrong person.
It's like you put that thing on dry ice and
you haul it's asked to Derby in North Carolina at
the university.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but even then, I mean, I wrong person isn't
going to find out. I talked to someone one time
and they said, you call the news channel right away
and you can get the news out there, and you
put that thing on live right then, stay tuned for more.
But the big Foot report, We'll be right back that way.
It's out there. But even if you do that, who's
to say people don't come back and they completely discredit you.
It was a hoax. This person lied, he was a liar,
he's a known hoaxer and just completely ruin your life. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the other thing too, you know. So it's
like it's a catch twenty two.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: If you found something like that, it's like, yeah, do
you go live with it or do you just stick
it in the freezer and hold on to it?
Speaker 1: Because I think pretty much everyone that's in that follows
this subject seriously would agree that they know the government
knows that they're real.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they know, they know, And it's like,
I don't know if they just don't feel like it's
important enough, or you know, people are like, well they
shut the National forest down. You know, look how many
us know they're out there and we still go look
for them?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. It has nothing to do It has
nothing to do with shutting down the recreation industry, because
you know what, people there are grizzly bears out there.
We still go in the woods.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: I mean you might even get more activity, you might
even do more business recreationally if you announce that there's
a big foot. So I don't buy that for a
single second. No, that whole shutting down the timber industry
with the lumber.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, that's another one too. It's like
they're all over So how could you shut down everything,
every national park, every bit of conservation land. How do
you do that? You can't. So maybe that's part of
the reason that they don't acknowledge them, is because they
can't shut everything down, you know, they can control.
Speaker 1: Exactly. And I've heard other, I mean other arguments that
what if they know that these things are a percentage
of human, they are part human, what do we do
at that at that point, you know, are we talking
about civil rights that we have to give them? And
that could be a stupid question, but I mean, if
the if the whole mailboy catch them thing is is right,
and the mitochondrial or DNA is female and we don't
know what the father is, that's half human.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: How do we do we put humans in zoos? You know,
I don't know some that should be but I don't know.
It's fun to talk about, but we're never ever going
to have the answers. I think we all know that,
not like we want.
Speaker 3: You know that, That's what it's come down to. I've
seen them, I know they're real. You know, we've had
things happen more times than not. There have been times
when we absolutely have just thrown a dart at a
map and said we're going there and found them. So
you can't tell me that these things are few and
far between. They're not.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's part of the reason that we haven't found them
is there's really and truly if you go out and
you look at all your researchers, right, how many weekends
a year are those people out and they have to
be out on the right weekend when those things are
in their area, because I don't believe that they're stationary.
Now I don't believe that they migrate from north to
south either. Let's say maybe they have one hundred square
mile range. Well, if they're in the far corner of
it this month and you're in the opposite corner, you're
not going to find anything because they haven't been there
for a while, right, you know. And so it's like
the odds of you being able to have something concrete
are astronomical.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: When those things happen, it's just the planets are aligning
at that moment.
Speaker 1: That you are right, all right, we are over fifty
minutes and it doesn't seem that luck, that's possible. But
we do have a few questions, so let's go ahead
and jump in there. First off, not a question, but
going to google hit us for that dollar nine and nine.
Thank you, buddy, you are amazing as always, Troy. Wasn't
the flat of eggs twenty four eggs by twenty four eggs.
Speaker 3: Something like that? It's ridiculous, I mean, yeah, you have
to basically use two hands to carry it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what you're talking about. It's based two
dozen yeah.
Speaker 3: Because it's like cardboard on the bottom and plastic wrap
you know on the top type.
Speaker 1: Okay, and abnormal Investigations asks what are your thoughts on
the being neflin? That's a loaded question right there.
Speaker 3: Well, I am not a person to answer that, but
I say, no, I don't like to bring religion into
anything of the cryptids because it's crossing lines there. That
first of all, we don't understand a lot of the
stuff in the Bible well enough to compare it, you know,
and everybody's got a different interpretation of the Bible. So
for me, that's just a big no no, you know,
really and truly it is.
Speaker 1: And you know, Marianne, I made that exact man on
an episode of That Big Podcast. One time. Following week,
I got an email where I got all but cussed
out by a Christian who said I was doing this
huge disservice to all of the Christians out there by
having my personal opinion that we need to just keep
them separate. So my opinion is doing a disservice.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and it's like, and that's part of what's
wrong with society right now. Nobody can have an opinion.
It offends everybody, and it's like, just what your opinion is,
Yours just because my opinion is they're not Nephelim doesn't
mean that everybody else has to have that same opinion.
You know, it could be, it could be. I just
don't think it is. You know, that's another one of
those things that we don't know enough about. And you
can say, well, neph One was this and this and this,
so this is why they can do this. Okay, maybe
they can, but I don't. I just don't like mixing
religions into that. Religion is a personal, private thing for
every person and it should not be brought into the
bigfoot cryptied community.
Speaker 1: I agree, others do not have This is more of
a comment I don't believe dog man has a human body. Well,
I've heard pretty much do well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the descriptions I've heard is it's it's
like a human body. It doesn't have that dog uh
because you know, and my dog's lane right here. Their
ribs come down, you know, they're they're not pointed, but
they're not flat like ours.
Speaker 1: So I just you know, I are moving on. Our
last question is from Chris Blaylock, and I'm going to
be honest, it's probably one of the better questions we've
had in a really long time, and I think that
it needs to be talked about. How do you think
we can get more people interested in the research, especially
the young people. It's a great question.
Speaker 3: That's a phenomenal question, and I've got a couple of
ideas on that. Going into the libraries. You know, you
can go into the county libraries most of the time.
It does not cost you anything to rent a room
or book a room in your libraries. Right do a
talk on a Saturday, you know, take your evidence in there.
If you are in school, to the elementary school systems
and see if you can't get in and do a
talk there. You know, that's how you get these kids
interested is you've got to introduce it to them early on.
You know, if they've got parents that are open to it,
that makes it easier. But I think introducing this is
something that's possibly out there to the younger kids is
a good way to get kids involved.
Speaker 1: Great, great suggestion. That's a really really good idea. All right, uh,
Mary Anne, these last couple of minutes, tell everybody about
your new show, where it is, where they can find it,
all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, I have delved into the podcast world myself now
and it's called Bigfoot, wild Man and Booger's Show. It's
over on YouTube. And we've had to take a couple
of weeks off, you know, we had some things come up,
and so we are just kind of getting lined back
out and we're actually going to record with you in
a few days, and you're going to be the first
one up when we come back, and we're trying to
just have you know, be logical about it, right, get
these people on, let's talk to them, you know, find
out what's going on, what they've seen, what they've heard,
where they've been, you know, things like that, because everything
that I do, whether it's bfro or it's my personal stuff.
If we teach enough of these people how to collect samples,
how to poor casts, how to do everything, somebody eventually
has to get something that the scientific community cannot turn
their nose up at. Educate, educate, educate. So that's part
of you know, our podcast, The Bigfoot, wild Men and Boogers.
We're on YouTube. We're going to be venturing out into
other things, but that's where we're at right now. You know,
go over there like it, subscribe, you know, do all
the things that you do for Wayne, go do them
for me. And then if you all can prove to
me when we get to the LBL that you've done
all this, I'm gonna have little goodies for you. I
need to see it on your phone that you've liked
and subscribed, So I'm bribing you all for all the
likes and subscribes. Okay, awesome.
Speaker 1: Also, and I'm going to I'll get this release to podcasts.
I don't know if i'll get it turned around for
tomorrow or not, but it'll at least be Friday, and
I'll share the link to everything but your conference and
your show definitely on the podcast where I have a
much bigger audience over there, so maybe we can reach
a few more people that way.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, But yeah, we've got that going on, and
we've got the Ozart Mountain Bigfoot Conference page. You guys
can always find out what we're doing over there, So
just come join us, hang out.
Speaker 1: We have a good time, Yes, we do, all right again.
I can't wait till your conference, ma'am. It's so much fun.
It is worth the almost ten hour drive to get
there and just to hang out with my peeps. It's
I can't wait. Mister Robert met you there, buddy, can't
wait to hang out with you again. Give me a
good time, ma'am. Thank you so much for taking the
time to come and hang out with me tonight. I
hope you enjoy the rest of your evening.
Speaker 3: I plan on it. I'm gonna go make me some burgers.
Speaker 1: All right, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Have a good night YouTube bye bye bye.
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Speaker 4: Through the woods, the pine trees sway, shadows long at
end of day, Bigfoots call on the whispering breeze. Secrets
kept by ancient trees. Dog Man House bring echoes in
the silent too. Tracks We fine, but answers none.
Speaker 3: A hunt for truth, that's just the god. We're searching.
Speaker 4: Past the fire light. Four creatures hidden out of sight
in the forest heart where shadows lay seeking see chrits
in the twilight. Through the fall a shape did gly
skin walker eyes sw wide. Legends of Oh, we chase
to night in the dark, our lanterns bright by the creek,
quil water spill, whispers, ry, the windsow chill fullus deep
band tails.
Speaker 3: On top in this land. The myths of.
Speaker 4: We're searching past the fire light full creatures hidden out
of sight in the forest heart, where shadows lay seeking
seacrets in the twilight break