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<v Speaker 1>You have to love the laugh. Welcome back to EVE

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. It's May the fourteenth, twenty twenty five. May

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<v Speaker 1>has blown by, the Kentucky Derby has blown by. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the Preakness coming up this weekend on Saturday, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be speaking about horse racing more this week. But

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the show. The phone number to EVE

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio is five zero two five seven to one

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine hundred. That's five zero two five seventy nine hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Sports Talk seven ninety KRD.

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<v Speaker 2>We do.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a new person in. We've got William sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in with us today. William, welcome aboard. You're not a newbie,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're close. Shannon's still close to you, so you

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<v Speaker 1>still got all your backup that you need.

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<v Speaker 2>But welcome to Esports Radio. And I appreciate you coming

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<v Speaker 2>in with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you analogy me. Shannon's holding my hand here in studio,

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<v Speaker 3>so hopefully all exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna break you in slowly, that's all we you.

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<v Speaker 1>But no appreciate you coming in. And of course Shannon's

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<v Speaker 1>definitely the best, but I'm not frightened of him. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get in the ring one day, William, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to dethrone the champion. But I don't know when that.

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<v Speaker 1>Days don't come, but it's going to come. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna move on from that. So let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Let me know, is my younger son called

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<v Speaker 1>in yet, William. Let's to bring Anthony Eaves to the show. Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that you still a question if I'm calling

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<v Speaker 4>in on times? Just almost a little disrespectful.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony, wire you with us? Can we hear you own home? Anthony?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I can tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>You not hear him at all. I have not heard

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<v Speaker 1>a word that he has said. So anyway, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking. Anthony. Just tell Anthony to continue talking until

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<v Speaker 1>we get it fixed. But I do not hear Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is seven o eight and this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we have in store for you today. Once we can

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<v Speaker 1>get Anthony live, which we will, We're gonna talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about, of course, Pete Rose and major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>It has its issues. We know that major League Baseball

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<v Speaker 2>Issues, just like a lot of sports. Anthony, are you

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<v Speaker 2>with me? Sounds like I heard a click, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, I'm here, I was here before it. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I hear him now, thanks Shnny, Yeah, I hear him.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're doing, Anthony, I'm doing well about yourself. Good

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<v Speaker 2>now that I can hear, I'm doing doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we've got up today and everyone knows yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>huge news is that Pete Rose and numerous others nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen White Sox Chicago White Sox, which you're not far

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<v Speaker 1>from their stadium, Anthony, just one hundred years later.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had gambled on the World Series and shoeless

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Jackson has an opportunity, just like Pete Rose, to

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<v Speaker 1>be admitted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this subject, Anthony, you and I have not,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've talked about this subject on this show, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean numerous times. Is a hot topic. It's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that makes baseball. It lights it up, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>it really does. So I was talking with William, our producer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he asked me what I thought, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a tape that we're going to play. But again I

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<v Speaker 1>said that I believed that Pete Rose should be in

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<v Speaker 1>So William, I want you to give me, give the

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<v Speaker 1>audience your reply to me. Don't be scared, tell them

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<v Speaker 1>what you said, and then I'm going to start to talk.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great conversation. I'm going to reply back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to answer your questions, and then we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to a little audio tape from some of

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<v Speaker 1>the ESPN talking heads. So, William, your opinion, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati read you live in Cincinnati, of that is a

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<v Speaker 1>correct statement, Coreg Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm from northern Kentucky. I've grown up a Reds fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, your opinion? Should Pete Rose be in?

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Rose is the great hitter of all time. He

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<v Speaker 3>has Hall of Fame talent and accolades or hall of fame,

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<v Speaker 3>But the number one rule in baseball is don't ruin

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<v Speaker 3>the integrity of the game. It was set with Shoeless

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like, I mean, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>other stuff you can criticize him for for not being

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<v Speaker 3>in the Hall of Fame, and that's almost a different conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>but he ruined the integrity of the game. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>get how you can allow a person in to the

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great points. Now, yes, there's two sides to Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 2>There's three.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the baseball aspect, the hardest playing guy, the most

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<v Speaker 1>hits in Major League Baseball history, running through catchers during

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Games. There's no question that when you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the integrity of the game, and we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of issues with players today that.

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<v Speaker 2>We do not as older players.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an older NBA player that we say a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of players do not respect the game because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>play every game, will you. They don't play every play,

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<v Speaker 1>They take plays off, they take games off, they load manage.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Pete Rose. He played every game. He played

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<v Speaker 1>every game like it was his last. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>very good baseball player, very good. That's first sight. The

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<v Speaker 1>second side is the gambling aspect. I told you and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have said that. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a perpetual liar. It took him a long time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think when he finally admitted it was January eighth of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four when he admitted he'd bet on baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and that was on ESPN this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, from nineteen eighty nine, fifteen or so years before,

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<v Speaker 1>he admitted that he had bet on baseball, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did agree with Major League Baseball that he did with

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<v Speaker 1>the proof that they had shown that he had been

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<v Speaker 1>on baseball. The only thing that I said is that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not see where he was fixing games. He

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<v Speaker 1>was betting on his team to win. From what was

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<v Speaker 1>given to me and what the little I know about

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball, that's where I got that. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the second aspect. If he was ever betting to lose

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<v Speaker 1>games throw games, I would have thought differently, I really

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<v Speaker 1>would have. That's the second piece. The third piece is

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<v Speaker 1>of all the off the field tax evasion. Again, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stay with it. He went to jail for tax evasion.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stay away from the nineteen seventy issue with

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<v Speaker 1>the young Lady Again. A lot of things were thrown

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<v Speaker 1>out about his personality that weren't good. So you've got

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<v Speaker 1>three facets of Pete Rose Anthony. I'm gonna throw it

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<v Speaker 1>to you before we listen to the audio tape. Those

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<v Speaker 1>these those three facets are true hardest playing baseball player

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<v Speaker 1>than I probably have ever seen. If you say respecting

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<v Speaker 1>the game. By the way that he played, you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to put him in the top five, top four. The

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<v Speaker 1>other two issues are true. The gambling is one true.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Beard, I spoke to him last night and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>now the times have changed and that people can gamble

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<v Speaker 1>on professional sports. I said, Coach, that's true, but still

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<v Speaker 1>not the players and college players are not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to also, so that part has not changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you mean you're correct on that aspect? What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think, Anthony on Pete Rose's stature? Should he be

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<v Speaker 1>admitted in two Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame? There

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<v Speaker 1>are three pigs. He's got a stool with three pegs.

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<v Speaker 1>One is phenomenal, with the other two are questionable. What

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<v Speaker 4>There's been so much controversy in baseball with mean obviously

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<v Speaker 4>his gambling issue and a couple of the fastest he

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<v Speaker 4>had going on. But until at the same time, there's

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<v Speaker 4>players as even been in modern baseball, and even the

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<v Speaker 4>last fifteen to twenty years has have the same dilemmas

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<v Speaker 4>and similar issues. I've still gotten admitted into the Hall

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<v Speaker 4>of Fame. He got guys from using steroids, performing enhancing drugs.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you're going to ban somebody for those two things. Betting, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's permitted, But at the same time, if

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<v Speaker 4>you're betting against baseball, that wasn't really tarm funishing the

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<v Speaker 4>game at all. I don't see I don't see like

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<v Speaker 4>I say, I don't sit here and see an issue.

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't see why I should stop them from

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<v Speaker 4>getting into the Hall of Fame. That has nothing to

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<v Speaker 4>do with his performance that he did on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the Hall of Fame that they do,

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<v Speaker 4>they base the Hall of Fame more off of how

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<v Speaker 4>your entire lifestyle is rather than just what you're doing sports.

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen it in other sports too. They do it

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<v Speaker 4>in the football and basketball all the time. Would be

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<v Speaker 4>NFL players should be the players that.

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<v Speaker 1>Have met dude, Now, great point, should they? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask Anthony, should they? Let's just sit back. As a

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<v Speaker 1>firm NBA player. I'm fairly conservative, Anthony, with my aspects.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I raised you. I'm fairly conservative. But

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<v Speaker 1>again there's certain things that I am Should players be

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<v Speaker 1>paid in college without a doubt, I don't care anybody says,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna get me to say no, without a doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>they should be paid period. Does America have problems with

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<v Speaker 1>when the last person on the total pok gets paid? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>without a doubt, they lose their mind all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>the games going to go away when the last person

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<v Speaker 1>on the totem polk gets paid. That's the American problem,

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<v Speaker 1>bottom line. First one to it once at all, they

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<v Speaker 2>That's the second thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not conservative in that, yes, And I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>notices again that they can't pick it up on stream

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<v Speaker 1>the show guys, just to let you all know they're

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<v Speaker 1>hitting my phone. So that is another issue. So William

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony says, should the Hall of Fame be based on

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<v Speaker 1>their entire life? Your opinion, what do you think? Or

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<v Speaker 1>should it be based on what they've done on the

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of horrible people, but great ballplayers and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, they're in the Hall of Fame without

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<v Speaker 3>I think you got to judge.

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<v Speaker 1>All basketball, football, all the sports, all at hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of bad people in the Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of fame.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of great guys were horrible ballplayers.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think you just got to look at the

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<v Speaker 3>game itself. What have they done to contribute? You can

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<v Speaker 3>ask like to the growth of the game. You can

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<v Speaker 3>look at some off the field stuff, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>you have to look at the accolades itself and what

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<v Speaker 3>they have done within the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and if we do that, there's no question Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Rose should be in on what he did on that

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<v Speaker 1>diamond in the infield, outfield, base hitting, stealing the whole

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<v Speaker 1>nine yards, sprinting in and out onto the field before

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<v Speaker 1>games and at the end of eight inning. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 2>And again we all have known.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the bad part, guys, that when Pete Rose died,

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to get in. So he's not in yet.

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<v Speaker 1>They just lifted He has the opportunity now to be

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<v Speaker 1>voted in December twentieth, December of twenty twenty seven, he

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<v Speaker 1>that can let him in, not the commissioner. But I

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<v Speaker 5>Seven months after his death, he Rose is off Baseball's

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<v Speaker 5>an eligible list. Now he's eligible for the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 5>Commissioner Rob Manfred lifted the permanent ban on the all

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<v Speaker 5>time hit cap that's imposed in nineteen eighty nine when

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<v Speaker 5>Major League Baseball found that the Cincinnati Reds legend had

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<v Speaker 5>bet on his sport, end his own games.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the game's greatest players has engaged in the

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<v Speaker 1>variety of acts which have stayed the game, and he

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<v Speaker 1>must now live with the consequences of those acts.

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<v Speaker 5>In nineteen ninety one, the Hall of Fame and acted

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<v Speaker 5>a rule to keep out Rose and anyone banned from baseball.

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<v Speaker 5>Over and over, Rose denied having gambled on the game,

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<v Speaker 5>including his games while manager of the Reds. Then in

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<v Speaker 5>two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you bet on baseball? Yes? I did, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was my mistake not coming clean A lout earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, the man nicknamed Charlie Hussel never came clean. The

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<v Speaker 5>seventeen time All Star maintained he never bet on baseball

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<v Speaker 5>while still a player, but in twenty fifteen, ESPN on

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<v Speaker 5>Earth evidence of Roses bets, including on the Reds as

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<v Speaker 5>their player manager. Months later, Manfred rejected Rose's reinstatement request,

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<v Speaker 5>citing an unacceptable risk of a future violation and to

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<v Speaker 1>Tell you think I was al Capone, I'm Pete Rose.

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<v Speaker 6>I am the biggest winner in the history of sports.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I going to go to Hall of Fame once

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<v Speaker 2>I die? How am I going to know? Breaking news

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<v Speaker 2>into SportsCenter.

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<v Speaker 5>Pete Rose, baseball's all time hits leader, who was banned

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<v Speaker 5>for betting on the game, has died at the age

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<v Speaker 5>of eighty three. Rose's posthumous reinstatement doesn't wipe away stains

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<v Speaker 5>on his legacy, like a woman sworn statement in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>seventeen accusing him of statutory rape decades earlier and federal

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<v Speaker 7>President Donald Trump says he plans to pardon the late

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<v Speaker 7>baseball legend Pete Rose. The President made the announcement yesterday,

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<v Speaker 7>criticizing Major League Baseball for barring Rose from the Sports

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<v Speaker 5>In the last month, President Trump met with Manfred but

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<v Speaker 5>Rose's Hall of Fame fate is not up to the commissioner.

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<v Speaker 5>Rose will presumably be on the Hall's Classic Era Committee.

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<v Speaker 5>Ballot voters are told to consider integrity, sportsmanship, and character

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<v Speaker 5>their next scheduled vote. December twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio seven five got Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, we've got the newbie William behind the glass.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony complicated subject. I've already gotten forty nine to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>people have already liked.

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<v Speaker 2>Should Pete rose By in the Baseball Hall of Fame?

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<v Speaker 1>My opinion is yes, I'm going off of baseball, the

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<v Speaker 1>game of baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I watched him, why I knew him, was.

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<v Speaker 1>Before the way he performed on the baseball diamond.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, as I matured and aged and started to see

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<v Speaker 1>the issues and the issues he had after baseball, I

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<v Speaker 1>started to see that he had a checkered past. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend that's really close friends with him,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Chrisman, who you all know is the sports memorabilia

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<v Speaker 1>guy that has given me great gifts. But he knows

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<v Speaker 1>Pete well, and he knows about his past and has

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<v Speaker 1>spoken with numerous signs about it, and of course Pete

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<v Speaker 1>tried to as he aged, everyone does, people mature, but

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<v Speaker 1>he does have a checkered past, so guys. End result

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<v Speaker 1>is when baseball opens it up. I still think that

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<v Speaker 1>the sports writers will vote him. No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll let him in. My opinion, I think he should

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<v Speaker 1>be in, but I do not think I think that William.

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<v Speaker 1>They will stay with what you consider the integrity of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, which is correct. Gambling on baseball does damage

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<v Speaker 1>the integrity of the game. Especially in my opinion, all

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<v Speaker 1>gambling is incorrect. But when you're throwing, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>throwing ball games, if you were not playing your best,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, I don't know. I just know the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that I've read from Major League Baseball that he was

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<v Speaker 1>never gambling against his team. But you're one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>Corregt William. I don't know that to be a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone does, I like for him to call in.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone has some information about did Pete Rose gamble

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<v Speaker 1>against his team when he was a player coach for

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<v Speaker 1>the Reds is an issue that I have. Yes, he

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<v Speaker 1>gambled as a player, and he gambled as the player coach. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did so, guys, that's about it. Anything else, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>you got anything to add? I just hate that. In

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<v Speaker 1>one of Pete Rose's interviews, he said, I will probably

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<v Speaker 1>get into the Major League Hall of Fame after I die,

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<v Speaker 1>but I won't know it.

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<v Speaker 2>Does anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anybody feel sorry for Pete Rose? Last question, William,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel sorry for him? Or did he make

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really feel sorry for him. He made his

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's two.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you make your bed, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>live in it. That's a piece of it. Anthony, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think you feel sorry for people? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I agree, it's kind of simple. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't make all the wrong consequences and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>expect everybody just to get over and forgive you. Sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean sometimes people they just hold grudges and that's

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<v Speaker 4>the way that their standards and regulations are and you

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<v Speaker 4>just got to live with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there are rules, guys, We do have rules, and

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<v Speaker 2>they're there for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hate that I'm being a softie for

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose because I'm usually not. I'm usually the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that says.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it is the rule. That is the rule.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had this. Let me tell you. I asked people.

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<v Speaker 1>One person said, O J. Simpson got inducted to NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame nineteen eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Got me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want him to know that the Nicole Brown

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson case didn't break until nineteen ninety four, so he

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<v Speaker 1>was admitted before those issues. Now there were issues they

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<v Speaker 1>with domestic violence throughout some of his marriages, but you

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you, William. We'll bring on the next college.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to make sure I answered that

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the NFL Hall of Fame before the

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<v Speaker 1>Nicole Brown Simpson stabbing. Okay, So that's all that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say on that. When I just wanted to answer,

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the things I got. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring ran to the show. Roan, Welcome to the sports radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you hi?

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<v Speaker 6>Jerry there? Are you all this morning?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? Good talking a little baseball, that's all.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. So I'm not calling in to defend p Rose,

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<v Speaker 6>but what I am calling in to do is question

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the word integrity, character and all that that

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<v Speaker 6>the empires to be in baseball. Bring up their character

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<v Speaker 6>and their integrity is what I questioned. And here's why

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<v Speaker 6>we're going to take on Pete Rose, was Joe Jackson,

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<v Speaker 6>because that's just one individual you know too well to count.

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<v Speaker 6>Choose Joe, but we refuse to take on the steroids

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<v Speaker 6>and the people the integrity of the games. Don't tell

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<v Speaker 6>me the integrity of the game. Was it affected by

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<v Speaker 6>the use of steroids and all the home runs that

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<v Speaker 6>were hit and the multiple stars that was involved in that,

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<v Speaker 6>and they put them in the hall. So you know

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<v Speaker 6>what those are called hypocrites. So I don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>hear them talk about their character and the integrity of

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<v Speaker 6>the games. They need to look in the mirror and

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<v Speaker 6>question their own integrity in their own character because they

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<v Speaker 6>don't have the guts or the backbone to take on

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<v Speaker 6>that problem. So that did, in fact, that affected the

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<v Speaker 6>game too big, in a big way, in a big

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<v Speaker 6>way that they were too And I think it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 6>obscene and disgusting that they chose to let this man

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<v Speaker 6>in the Hall of Fame eight months after he died.

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<v Speaker 1>Have the apportune No, that's and Pete Rose said that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the audio Pete Rose saying, watch guys, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hall of Fame and won't know it. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an audio of that. I listened last night. You're now

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<v Speaker 1>that's the part ron because yes, they were passing those

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<v Speaker 1>things out like like skittles. They're hitting home runs. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're hitting home runs by the droves and everyone knew that.

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<v Speaker 6>Maguire, Barry, Bond and on and a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that part, Yes, they were trying to bring back baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to revive baseball.

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<v Speaker 6>We go to the trend that that didn't didn't affect

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<v Speaker 6>the outcome of games, of the integrity of the games.

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<v Speaker 6>It's so hypocritical, Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>That's one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true, always, always, No, that's that is a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is one factual, and it's gone on

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<v Speaker 1>throughout sports for a long time to where it's easier

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<v Speaker 1>to put it on one person than it is to

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just go back to guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Adolph Rup got killed for not wanting to play black athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly he got me. I played the tape of Adolf

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<v Speaker 1>Colefield House, nothing but elegant, great things to say about

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<v Speaker 1>put everything, everything on Adolf Rup when it was not

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<v Speaker 1>Did you try to go to Florida? Did people try

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<v Speaker 1>to go to Gainesville, Alabama? At the time they put

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<v Speaker 1>it all on de same deal? Exactly, No, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You just don't want to always sell the truth.

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<v Speaker 6>And they.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly they don't want to admit that it's easier to

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<v Speaker 1>of things then to look at totality. Great call, Ron,

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<v Speaker 1>no question, that's fact. That's why, guys, that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>to put Pete Rose in. I do what he did

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<v Speaker 1>on the field is deserving. If we're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>to judge everybody's off field behavior, oh guys, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>But let's just make the rules the same. If those

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be the rules, players, owners, managers, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be across the board, that's all. So, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we've got a lot to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the NBA, which is where we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go directly after this, and some great games.

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<v Speaker 1>Last night Eastwarts Radio. We'll talk to you in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Sports Radio. Thank you for the dialogue. Conversation on

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose. We'll have to wait and see December of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty seven, we'll find out when the Classic Era

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Committee gets together and see if they would admit

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson and numerous others into

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<v Speaker 1>the Baseball Hall of Fame. Now, let's get with it, Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched, when we watched the Calves go down, I

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<v Speaker 1>did not watch the Thunder come back and get the Nuggets,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did select. I thought it would be the

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<v Speaker 1>Thunder and the Calves and the finals this year and

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs started.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I had predicted.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm staying with that prediction, even though we know the

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<v Speaker 1>Calves are out. Let's start with the Cavs game first, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think what transpired? What has to happen

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<v Speaker 1>for the Calves and Donovan Mitchell to ever see if

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<v Speaker 1>he can advance to win a World Championship.

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<v Speaker 4>I think at this point, I think it's just a

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<v Speaker 4>mental game. If you've watched the series, you watched it

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<v Speaker 4>out the regular season, the physical ability and the capabilities

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<v Speaker 4>of winning games, and I think getting to that next

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<v Speaker 4>level is there. I just think the mental aspect, he's

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<v Speaker 4>still going through a couple of bumps in the road

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<v Speaker 4>to where he's not fully checked in all the way.

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<v Speaker 4>We saw it, even on that player when he gave

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<v Speaker 4>when he slowed down on the layer to let Miles

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<v Speaker 4>turn to Blocket, that one play alone showed a lot

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<v Speaker 4>about that entire season, about their entire playoffs. It just

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<v Speaker 4>didn't make.

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<v Speaker 8>Sense the game before, in Game four, when Darius Garland

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<v Speaker 8>was out, he was splitting the lane, splitting double teams

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<v Speaker 8>and Duncan on Miles Turner, and then he's on a

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<v Speaker 8>fast break layer wide open by himself. In game five,

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<v Speaker 8>slows down, shoots an underhand layup and gets a pint

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<v Speaker 8>off the backboard in a close game that it just

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<v Speaker 8>didn't make sense. I don't know what's going on through

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<v Speaker 8>his head. I don't know if that game four lost

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<v Speaker 8>when he had forty eight points, he strained his calf

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit, and they still lost.

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<v Speaker 4>I think his brain just kind of mentally checked out

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<v Speaker 4>after that, because I feel like when you that's a

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<v Speaker 4>game where I feel like he put one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>ten percent in and the outcome wasn't what he expected.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think it just that was that was

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<v Speaker 4>his his his NBA championship right there. That was his

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<v Speaker 4>Eastern Conference Finals game.

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<v Speaker 6>That was all. I think that was.

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<v Speaker 4>All he had left in the tank. I think he

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<v Speaker 4>was just out of stamina too. I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, conditioning. Okay, Anthony, I agree with you that play.

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<v Speaker 1>We were watching the game that play. I couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being honest with you all. I just couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>You just hit the gas, you jump, you put the

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<v Speaker 1>ball off the glass. You don't have to dunk it.

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<v Speaker 1>But with his athleticability, which we've seen, you put your

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<v Speaker 1>hand and ball on the backwards. Soon he's release it.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't touch it as a basket. And when he

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<v Speaker 1>slowed down to a walk and let the man running

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<v Speaker 1>down and block the shot in a huge game that

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<v Speaker 1>had to be won at home boy, maybe go gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>something is just not there.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking with people and of course, I always called Coach Beard,

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<v Speaker 1>numerous other guys that I know have been in the

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<v Speaker 1>league a long time and start to ask them their opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's in the same place. Coach Beard said, when

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<v Speaker 1>he came out of University of Louisville, we couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 1>he got drafted as as he did.

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<v Speaker 2>No one did.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone was expecting him to go late first round, early

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<v Speaker 1>second and ends up being fourteenth pick in Utah. Then

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<v Speaker 1>the best player he played with, Hayward, gets hurt. Brendan

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<v Speaker 1>Hayward from Butler. He has an opportunity to step in

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<v Speaker 1>his first year and shoot a lot of balls, plays well,

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<v Speaker 1>average seventeen a game. He has a six time All

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<v Speaker 1>Star in his eight years in the league. Can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>he's been in the league eight years. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>Shay Gildies Alexander's been in the league seven years.

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<v Speaker 2>You will.

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<v Speaker 1>When I started to look at these things trying to

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<v Speaker 1>research what's going on. My opinion after looking at stats

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<v Speaker 1>and all the things, Donovan Mitchell cannot be your best player,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all. And that's not a slap, guys. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>be honest. Look at all the champions that we have

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<v Speaker 1>you Kyrie and Lebron. You've got Lebron and Dwayne Wade.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Dwayne Wade and Shaq. I mean, guys, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a slap, it's just a fact. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that he can be your best player on your

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<v Speaker 1>team and you go very far in the playoffs. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a perimeter player, and he's an inconsistent three point shooter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very streaky, so say things. Looking at his Chris

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<v Speaker 1>A Hole guys, six time All Star. He's a forty

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<v Speaker 1>four point nine percent field goal shooter. He's a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six point three percent three point shooter. He's an eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four percent free throw shooter, even though he missed three

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<v Speaker 1>big ones in a row, which goes back to that play, Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>the play on the layup that when he didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>hit the gas and shoot the layup or dunk the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>what he did made go god.

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<v Speaker 2>It really made I went god. I just like, what

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<v Speaker 2>was that? I just like, I don't know where his

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<v Speaker 2>mind had gone.

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<v Speaker 1>But in my opinion talking to people, I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that the Cavs are going to have to get a

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<v Speaker 1>better player. He has to be your second best player,

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<v Speaker 1>not your best player, not your rally call that person

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<v Speaker 1>that leads your team, that Kobe Bryant mentality, that Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Russell mentality, that Magic Johnson Larry Bird mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that didn't come around all the time. That Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Curry mentality. Guys, it just doesn't come around all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really really good player. Donovan Mitchell, I mean, unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>player and much better than I expected. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>give him credit. I didn't think that Donovan Mitchell would

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<v Speaker 1>have the career that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I wanted to go back and look, because

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<v Speaker 1>I've said on the show, Anthony volume shooter, the shooting

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<v Speaker 1>percentage as good as anybody in the league. It stacks

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<v Speaker 1>up with anybody's in the league. Let's go to shake Gilligs.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander's seven year career got me. He's a forty four

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<v Speaker 1>point six percent shooter. Donovan's a forty four point nine. He's,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at totality, a thirty three percent, three

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty seven percent three point shooter.

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<v Speaker 2>His is better. Donovan's is a thirty six point six. Guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all very very very close. It's just I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think that Donovan can be your best player and

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<v Speaker 1>take you deep into the playoffs. And that's not a slap,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a fact. A lot of players that needed help.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Cleveland needs to.

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<v Speaker 2>Add a player. William, Now you were throwing in your

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<v Speaker 2>two cents. What do you think? William? Do you do

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<v Speaker 2>you agree or disagree?

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati guy Clean Cavalier straight up the street from you,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I think Evan Mobley is a really good number two,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's developing into probably a star big man.

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<v Speaker 2>He's developing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think you're only as good as your weakest link.

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<v Speaker 3>In the modern NBA, I think the Pacers are just

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<v Speaker 3>as significantly their floor is higher than the Cavs players

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<v Speaker 3>floor as a whole roster, this whole roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Coach Beard threw that out to me talking about Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves Joka and Murray, he says, but when they

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<v Speaker 1>lost their role players, they're having a hard time. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really struggling to do it again. William, you're a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent correct. There hasn't been a repeat in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time. I don't think there'll be any

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<v Speaker 1>more repeat champs. I just don't think that'll happen. With

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<v Speaker 1>the movement and the attitude of the players, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that. Are the injuries of the players as

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<v Speaker 1>we see Tatum has gone down. I just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>it happening. I really don't. For some reason, it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it could. There'll be a team. Everyone thought Boston was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna repeat this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone thought Boston was young enough to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>And after being snubbed when Brown was snubbed from the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic team and Tatum wasn't played very much on the

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic team, that everyone thought that they would come back

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<v Speaker 1>with a chip on their shoulder and showed the league well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean their style of play. I just ugh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still upset with the way that the Celtics play the

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<v Speaker 1>game of basketball. I really am so best of luck.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the Caves need to get a player.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, Mobley's improving, and yes he was an All Star,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's Garland. But when you're talking about the true duo,

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan has never had a duo to where he could

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<v Speaker 1>lean or rely on somebody in his career at this time.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's be honest, guy, Shay Gildis Alexander hasn't either,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's leading his team. So we're gonna watch and

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<v Speaker 1>see if Shaye who I believe, Okay s he's the

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<v Speaker 1>best team.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm expecting oka Se to win this thing this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it would be Cleveland and Okay, see,

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<v Speaker 1>I really did so, guys, we're gonna get to our

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<v Speaker 1>last break when we come back. We got a little

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<v Speaker 1>college football news. We've got to talk about college football.

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<v Speaker 1>And you weren't with us yesterday, William, but I had

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Bill Belichick. And now there's rumors, guys that

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<v Speaker 1>there is an issue in North Carolina with coach Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick and his girlfriend. Watch radio, will talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>all in a minute. Welcome back to the sports radio Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Last segment, I have to ask you this, William YouTube Anthony.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>How did Cooper Flag get to Dallas? Did the NBA cheat?

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Beard said they cheatd I just want to know

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<v Speaker 1>did they cheat? I'm happy, I'm happy for Niko general manager,

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<v Speaker 1>I am, But did the NBA cheat? How did the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mavericks get Cooper? Now look at that team? Now

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<v Speaker 1>look at that team. Hey, guys, Cooper Flag can play,

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<v Speaker 1>He's really going to be good. Give him a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just had to say Donovan Mitchell's eighth year, Chake Gilligs,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander seventh year, Give that boy two years. If Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Davis stays healthy, Kyrie comes back with Cooper.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Anthony, What chances do they have

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<v Speaker 2>to be a major player in the West going forward?

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<v Speaker 8>They they got.

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<v Speaker 4>If they come back as a healthy team with Cooper,

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<v Speaker 4>Flag will be a top four, top five team in

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<v Speaker 4>the West in my opinion. And that's just going off

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<v Speaker 4>of just what I see now. Could they be higher

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<v Speaker 4>than that, Yes, but I'd send him at around a

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<v Speaker 4>four or five seed. But I can't sit here and

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<v Speaker 4>say it they actually cheated or not.

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<v Speaker 6>We have no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>But the first time, this isn't the first time we

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<v Speaker 4>haven't seen. We've seen the team with low odds of

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<v Speaker 4>getting them one pick, got it. I mean, we could

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<v Speaker 4>go back to even controversy, even when the Chicago Bulls

634
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<v Speaker 4>had a three point eight percent chance of getting Derrick

635
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<v Speaker 4>Rose who's from Chicago, and somehow got him for.

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<v Speaker 8>The first pick.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's it's not the only time we've seen It's like, oh,

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00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.319
<v Speaker 4>he happens to be a hometown kid, went to see

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<v Speaker 4>me in high school. He went to Memphis and then

640
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 4>comes back to where he's literally born from and draft

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<v Speaker 4>as a number one pick to the Chicago Bulls with

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<v Speaker 4>a less than four percent chance.

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<v Speaker 8>But we've those.

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<v Speaker 2>Balls are funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Those ping punk balls are funny, Anthony, They're funny. No,

646
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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I was just playing with you with the NBA.

647
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you what, just like I'm a

648
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Donovan Mitchell fan, I am. People don't give this guy

649
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.159
<v Speaker 1>his due, But I think now that they'll be able

650
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to slide PJ Washington. PJ Washington down to the let

651
00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>him play the four three that Cooper play some to

652
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Anthony got me. I think they're gonna be really good.

653
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna be larger than people think. Give

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00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie the ball, and I think they're gonna be pretty

655
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 1>dang good, even if you put Cooper at the three

656
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and PG at the four, which means spacing the floor

657
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>good size. PJ is a great rebounder with Davis. I

658
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>like what they have, Anthony, I really do. I love Lively, Anthony.

659
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:50.400
<v Speaker 1>They could be big, athletic. They may be better than

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00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.159
<v Speaker 1>people think I'm just being honest with you. I just

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00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>want to see the Mavericks come back healthy. That's all

662
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:01.079
<v Speaker 1>Davis work out this summer. Beat one hundred percent healthy,

663
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Kyrie come back. PJ Washington lively he was injured at

664
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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year with Cooper Flag And they're

665
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 1>pretty good guys, They're really pretty good. I like their team,

666
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I really do. So we have to wait and see.

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00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:19.800
<v Speaker 1>The NBA always does funny things. That's all funny things.

668
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 1>Now here's what I have, Anthony. We haven't touched it,

669
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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna hit it really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>They were ranking the football coaches in the SEC, And

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<v Speaker 1>of course I always go to coach Stoops. A lot

673
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:40.679
<v Speaker 1>of people have been really critical of coach Stoops and

674
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 1>the last few years they have been down not to

675
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the level that they have played, but they have him

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00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:51.039
<v Speaker 1>ranked the tenth best coach in the SEC. Of course,

677
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>you know you got Kirby smart one, of course, no question.

678
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Steve Sarkege in Texas to Brian Kelly at LSU three.

679
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Again, you're talking about the Gauntlet.

680
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about the best of the best of board

681
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 1>at Alabama. Kiffin at Mississippi. I mean, you've got the

682
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<v Speaker 1>best of the best, man. What do you think Shane

683
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Biember jumped to eighth from South Carolina? They had a

684
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>very good year. What do you think does Mark Stoops

685
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<v Speaker 1>need to be tenth out of the sixteenth in the SEC?

686
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<v Speaker 4>He kind of has to be right now. I mean,

687
00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 4>he's had a couple of good seasons, but his SEC

688
00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 4>record has been a little up and down. It's been

689
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of a roller coaster rit since he's been at UK,

690
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:38.599
<v Speaker 4>at least over the last five years. Yes, he's no

691
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:42.239
<v Speaker 4>the SEC coaches. He's kind of in the towards the middle,

692
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.920
<v Speaker 4>at the bottom of the totem pole just because of record.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, well, here's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky fans all right now, there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky fans that say, now they want to make the

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<v Speaker 1>next move Anthony. I used to say no to facilities

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<v Speaker 1>or Anthony. They do have facilities craft Center. I've been

698
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in the facilities. I've toured all Kentucky's facilities. It's not

699
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<v Speaker 1>Alabama level, but it's good. You understand me. They have

700
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>good facilities. So I can't say that anymore. I just

701
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Can the University of Kentucky jump through the

702
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>upper echelone in the SEC, which is the best and

703
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 1>the best conference in the country, is just the question mark.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I just don't think that they can ever. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say ever, but I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>see it in my time frame. It may, but I

707
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 1>think it's just a lot to ask. I don't know why. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>yes I do, because Georgia and Alabama and Texas LSU

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<v Speaker 1>It's a religion.

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00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:45.480
<v Speaker 2>That's all there is to it.

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00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Guys, these schools, it is a religion. It's like Kentucky basketball.

712
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>For someone to say the Kentucky basketball is going to

713
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:55.280
<v Speaker 1>drop to the middle of the end of the SEC,

714
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it'll never happen. They'll fire every coach and move every player.

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00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>It just won't hap Anthony. It is religion. So sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at ten, I think is where a coach stoops should be.

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00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>And there are seasons that he does jump to five,

718
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 1>and there are seasons that he's sometimes he's thirteen fourteen.

719
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>That's just gonna happen at the University of Kentucky. But

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00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people think that he makes a lot

721
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<v Speaker 1>of money, Anthony, and he does that they should do.

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<v Speaker 2>More now here's the comparison ant and William, I gonna

723
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.679
<v Speaker 2>put you on the spot. I know we don't have long.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a national ranking of coaches, and of course

725
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 1>the national ranking guys again says the same thing. Kirby

726
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>Smarts won, and I mean Brian Kelly and Steve Sarkegan,

727
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.679
<v Speaker 1>they're all there. Starkegian's four, James Franklin's five, Danny Lanning

728
00:38:43.760 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>at Oregon is six. You know they've got Freeman at

729
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame seven, to board at Alabama. Ah right, but

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<v Speaker 1>they have University Louisville's coach in that list sitting at sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Brohm.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow, Anthony, I'm gonna ask you, because it's time we're done.

733
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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna ask you, do you think.

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<v Speaker 1>That's appropriate for University of Louisville Jeff brom To be

735
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>sitting at sixteen at his two years at University of Louisville,

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<v Speaker 1>And just think about this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're one and one against University of Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair finally beat Kentucky last year one in one, but

739
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>they jumped him to sixteen out of the ACC, which guys,

740
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 1>is one of the worst football conferences and basketball conferences.

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00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>The last two or three years that there's ever been.

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00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 1>And we know that the Commisioner says things have to change.

743
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you man, great job sitting in with us. Anthony,

744
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>get to work and I will speak with you God,

745
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Willie and I'll be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Love you all, Bye bye,
