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Speaker 2: We do.
Speaker 1: We've got a new person in. We've got William sitting
Speaker 1: in with us today. William, welcome aboard. You're not a newbie,
Speaker 1: but you're close. Shannon's still close to you, so you
Speaker 1: still got all your backup that you need.
Speaker 2: But welcome to Esports Radio. And I appreciate you coming
Speaker 2: in with you.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you analogy me. Shannon's holding my hand here in studio,
Speaker 3: so hopefully all exactly.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break you in slowly, that's all we you.
Speaker 1: But no appreciate you coming in. And of course Shannon's
Speaker 1: definitely the best, but I'm not frightened of him. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get in the ring one day, William, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to dethrone the champion. But I don't know when that.
Speaker 1: Days don't come, but it's going to come. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna move on from that. So let's get into
Speaker 1: the show. Let me know, is my younger son called
Speaker 1: in yet, William. Let's to bring Anthony Eaves to the show. Anthony,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 4: The fact that you still a question if I'm calling
Speaker 4: in on times? Just almost a little disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Anthony, wire you with us? Can we hear you own home? Anthony?
Speaker 2: That's all I can tell you.
Speaker 1: You not hear him at all. I have not heard
Speaker 1: a word that he has said. So anyway, I'll just
Speaker 1: keep talking. Anthony. Just tell Anthony to continue talking until
Speaker 1: we get it fixed. But I do not hear Anthony.
Speaker 1: So it is seven o eight and this is what
Speaker 1: we have in store for you today. Once we can
Speaker 1: get Anthony live, which we will, We're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about, of course, Pete Rose and major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: It has its issues. We know that major League Baseball
Speaker 1: has had its.
Speaker 2: Issues, just like a lot of sports. Anthony, are you
Speaker 2: with me? Sounds like I heard a click, but.
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm here, I was here before it. I don't
Speaker 4: know what was going on.
Speaker 2: I hear him now, thanks Shnny, Yeah, I hear him.
Speaker 2: Now you're doing, Anthony, I'm doing well about yourself. Good
Speaker 2: now that I can hear, I'm doing doing good.
Speaker 1: So what we've got up today and everyone knows yesterday
Speaker 1: huge news is that Pete Rose and numerous others nineteen
Speaker 1: nineteen White Sox Chicago White Sox, which you're not far
Speaker 1: from their stadium, Anthony, just one hundred years later.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: But I had gambled on the World Series and shoeless
Speaker 1: Joe Jackson has an opportunity, just like Pete Rose, to
Speaker 1: be admitted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Okay, And
Speaker 1: we've talked about this subject, Anthony, you and I have not,
Speaker 1: but we've talked about this subject on this show, I
Speaker 1: mean numerous times. Is a hot topic. It's one of
Speaker 1: the things that makes baseball. It lights it up, Anthony,
Speaker 1: it really does. So I was talking with William, our producer,
Speaker 1: and he asked me what I thought, and we've got
Speaker 1: a tape that we're going to play. But again I
Speaker 1: said that I believed that Pete Rose should be in
Speaker 1: So William, I want you to give me, give the
Speaker 1: audience your reply to me. Don't be scared, tell them
Speaker 1: what you said, and then I'm going to start to talk.
Speaker 1: It was a great conversation. I'm going to reply back.
Speaker 1: I'm going to answer your questions, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to listen to a little audio tape from some of
Speaker 1: the ESPN talking heads. So, William, your opinion, you're a
Speaker 1: Cincinnati read you live in Cincinnati, of that is a
Speaker 1: correct statement, Coreg Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm from northern Kentucky. I've grown up a Reds fan.
Speaker 2: Okay, your opinion? Should Pete Rose be in?
Speaker 3: Pete Rose is the great hitter of all time. He
Speaker 3: has Hall of Fame talent and accolades or hall of fame,
Speaker 3: But the number one rule in baseball is don't ruin
Speaker 3: the integrity of the game. It was set with Shoeless
Speaker 3: Joe back in the day in nineteen nineteen, as you mentioned,
Speaker 3: and I feel like, I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: other stuff you can criticize him for for not being
Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame, and that's almost a different conversation,
Speaker 3: but he ruined the integrity of the game. I don't
Speaker 3: get how you can allow a person in to the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame with that.
Speaker 2: Okay, great points. Now, yes, there's two sides to Pete Rose.
Speaker 2: There's three.
Speaker 1: There's the baseball aspect, the hardest playing guy, the most
Speaker 1: hits in Major League Baseball history, running through catchers during
Speaker 1: All Star Games. There's no question that when you're talking
Speaker 1: about the integrity of the game, and we have a
Speaker 1: lot of issues with players today that.
Speaker 2: We do not as older players.
Speaker 1: I'm an older NBA player that we say a lot
Speaker 1: of players do not respect the game because they don't
Speaker 1: play every game, will you. They don't play every play,
Speaker 1: They take plays off, they take games off, they load manage.
Speaker 1: That was Pete Rose. He played every game. He played
Speaker 1: every game like it was his last. He was a
Speaker 1: very good baseball player, very good. That's first sight. The
Speaker 1: second side is the gambling aspect. I told you and
Speaker 1: a lot of people have said that. You know, he's
Speaker 1: a perpetual liar. It took him a long time. I
Speaker 1: think when he finally admitted it was January eighth of
Speaker 1: two thousand and four when he admitted he'd bet on baseball.
Speaker 2: Okay, and that was on ESPN this morning.
Speaker 1: So yes, from nineteen eighty nine, fifteen or so years before,
Speaker 1: he admitted that he had bet on baseball, and I
Speaker 1: did agree with Major League Baseball that he did with
Speaker 1: the proof that they had shown that he had been
Speaker 1: on baseball. The only thing that I said is that
Speaker 1: I did not see where he was fixing games. He
Speaker 1: was betting on his team to win. From what was
Speaker 1: given to me and what the little I know about
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, that's where I got that. So that's
Speaker 1: the second aspect. If he was ever betting to lose
Speaker 1: games throw games, I would have thought differently, I really
Speaker 1: would have. That's the second piece. The third piece is
Speaker 1: of all the off the field tax evasion. Again, we're
Speaker 1: gonna stay with it. He went to jail for tax evasion.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay away from the nineteen seventy issue with
Speaker 1: the young Lady Again. A lot of things were thrown
Speaker 1: out about his personality that weren't good. So you've got
Speaker 1: three facets of Pete Rose Anthony. I'm gonna throw it
Speaker 1: to you before we listen to the audio tape. Those
Speaker 1: these those three facets are true hardest playing baseball player
Speaker 1: than I probably have ever seen. If you say respecting
Speaker 1: the game. By the way that he played, you'd have
Speaker 1: to put him in the top five, top four. The
Speaker 1: other two issues are true. The gambling is one true.
Speaker 1: Coach Beard, I spoke to him last night and he says,
Speaker 1: now the times have changed and that people can gamble
Speaker 1: on professional sports. I said, Coach, that's true, but still
Speaker 1: not the players and college players are not supposed to
Speaker 1: be able to also, so that part has not changed.
Speaker 1: Will you mean you're correct on that aspect? What do
Speaker 1: you think, Anthony on Pete Rose's stature? Should he be
Speaker 1: admitted in two Major League Baseball's Hall of Fame? There
Speaker 1: are three pigs. He's got a stool with three pegs.
Speaker 1: One is phenomenal, with the other two are questionable. What
Speaker 1: do you think you know?
Speaker 4: There's been so much controversy in baseball with mean obviously
Speaker 4: his gambling issue and a couple of the fastest he
Speaker 4: had going on. But until at the same time, there's
Speaker 4: players as even been in modern baseball, and even the
Speaker 4: last fifteen to twenty years has have the same dilemmas
Speaker 4: and similar issues. I've still gotten admitted into the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame. He got guys from using steroids, performing enhancing drugs.
Speaker 4: So if you're going to ban somebody for those two things. Betting, yes,
Speaker 4: I know it's permitted, But at the same time, if
Speaker 4: you're betting against baseball, that wasn't really tarm funishing the
Speaker 4: game at all. I don't see I don't see like
Speaker 4: I say, I don't sit here and see an issue.
Speaker 4: But I don't see why I should stop them from
Speaker 4: getting into the Hall of Fame. That has nothing to
Speaker 4: do with his performance that he did on the field.
Speaker 4: I think that the Hall of Fame that they do,
Speaker 4: they base the Hall of Fame more off of how
Speaker 4: your entire lifestyle is rather than just what you're doing sports.
Speaker 4: We've seen it in other sports too. They do it
Speaker 4: in the football and basketball all the time. Would be
Speaker 4: NFL players should be the players that.
Speaker 1: Have met dude, Now, great point, should they? I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask Anthony, should they? Let's just sit back. As a
Speaker 1: firm NBA player. I'm fairly conservative, Anthony, with my aspects.
Speaker 1: You know how I raised you. I'm fairly conservative. But
Speaker 1: again there's certain things that I am Should players be
Speaker 1: paid in college without a doubt, I don't care anybody says,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna get me to say no, without a doubt,
Speaker 1: they should be paid period. Does America have problems with
Speaker 1: when the last person on the total pok gets paid? Oh,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, they lose their mind all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the games going to go away when the last person
Speaker 1: on the totem polk gets paid. That's the American problem,
Speaker 1: bottom line. First one to it once at all, they
Speaker 1: take claims to it. Then when they have to give
Speaker 1: up any of it, they say there's an issue.
Speaker 2: That's the second thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm not conservative in that, yes, And I'm getting
Speaker 1: notices again that they can't pick it up on stream
Speaker 1: the show guys, just to let you all know they're
Speaker 1: hitting my phone. So that is another issue. So William
Speaker 1: Anthony says, should the Hall of Fame be based on
Speaker 1: their entire life? Your opinion, what do you think? Or
Speaker 1: should it be based on what they've done on the
Speaker 1: baseball field.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of horrible people, but great ballplayers and
Speaker 3: there's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Without a doubt, they're in the Hall of Fame without
Speaker 1: a doubt.
Speaker 3: I think you got to judge.
Speaker 1: All basketball, football, all the sports, all at hockey.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of bad people in the Hall
Speaker 2: of fame.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of great guys were horrible ballplayers.
Speaker 3: So I think you just got to look at the
Speaker 3: game itself. What have they done to contribute? You can
Speaker 3: ask like to the growth of the game. You can
Speaker 3: look at some off the field stuff, but I think
Speaker 3: you have to look at the accolades itself and what
Speaker 3: they have done within the game.
Speaker 1: Okay, and if we do that, there's no question Pete
Speaker 1: Rose should be in on what he did on that
Speaker 1: diamond in the infield, outfield, base hitting, stealing the whole
Speaker 1: nine yards, sprinting in and out onto the field before
Speaker 1: games and at the end of eight inning. Well, let's
Speaker 1: play the tape before we go to break at seven seventeen,
Speaker 1: let's play the tape. We're gonna listen to a little
Speaker 1: bit of ESPN's analogy of what they think is transpired.
Speaker 2: And again we all have known.
Speaker 1: Here's the bad part, guys, that when Pete Rose died,
Speaker 1: he was going to get in. So he's not in yet.
Speaker 1: They just lifted He has the opportunity now to be
Speaker 1: voted in December twentieth, December of twenty twenty seven, he
Speaker 1: has the opportunity. The Classic Era Baseball Committee again, they're
Speaker 1: the ones. The Classic Era Baseball Committee is the one
Speaker 1: that can let him in, not the commissioner. But I
Speaker 1: do want you to listen to a little bit of
Speaker 1: ESPN before we go to break.
Speaker 5: Seven months after his death, he Rose is off Baseball's
Speaker 5: an eligible list. Now he's eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Commissioner Rob Manfred lifted the permanent ban on the all
Speaker 5: time hit cap that's imposed in nineteen eighty nine when
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball found that the Cincinnati Reds legend had
Speaker 5: bet on his sport, end his own games.
Speaker 1: One of the game's greatest players has engaged in the
Speaker 1: variety of acts which have stayed the game, and he
Speaker 1: must now live with the consequences of those acts.
Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety one, the Hall of Fame and acted
Speaker 5: a rule to keep out Rose and anyone banned from baseball.
Speaker 5: Over and over, Rose denied having gambled on the game,
Speaker 5: including his games while manager of the Reds. Then in
Speaker 5: two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Did you bet on baseball? Yes? I did, and that
Speaker 2: was my mistake not coming clean A lout earlier.
Speaker 5: Actually, the man nicknamed Charlie Hussel never came clean. The
Speaker 5: seventeen time All Star maintained he never bet on baseball
Speaker 5: while still a player, but in twenty fifteen, ESPN on
Speaker 5: Earth evidence of Roses bets, including on the Reds as
Speaker 5: their player manager. Months later, Manfred rejected Rose's reinstatement request,
Speaker 5: citing an unacceptable risk of a future violation and to
Speaker 5: the integrity of the sport.
Speaker 1: Tell you think I was al Capone, I'm Pete Rose.
Speaker 6: I am the biggest winner in the history of sports.
Speaker 2: Am I going to go to Hall of Fame once
Speaker 2: I die? How am I going to know? Breaking news
Speaker 2: into SportsCenter.
Speaker 5: Pete Rose, baseball's all time hits leader, who was banned
Speaker 5: for betting on the game, has died at the age
Speaker 5: of eighty three. Rose's posthumous reinstatement doesn't wipe away stains
Speaker 5: on his legacy, like a woman sworn statement in twenty
Speaker 5: seventeen accusing him of statutory rape decades earlier and federal
Speaker 5: prison time in nineteen ninety for filing false tax returns.
Speaker 7: President Donald Trump says he plans to pardon the late
Speaker 7: baseball legend Pete Rose. The President made the announcement yesterday,
Speaker 7: criticizing Major League Baseball for barring Rose from the Sports
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: In the last month, President Trump met with Manfred but
Speaker 5: Rose's Hall of Fame fate is not up to the commissioner.
Speaker 5: Rose will presumably be on the Hall's Classic Era Committee.
Speaker 5: Ballot voters are told to consider integrity, sportsmanship, and character
Speaker 5: their next scheduled vote. December twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to EVE Sports Radio seven five got Anthony.
Speaker 1: Of course, we've got the newbie William behind the glass.
Speaker 1: Anthony complicated subject. I've already gotten forty nine to fifty
Speaker 1: people have already liked.
Speaker 2: Should Pete rose By in the Baseball Hall of Fame?
Speaker 1: My opinion is yes, I'm going off of baseball, the
Speaker 1: game of baseball.
Speaker 2: Why I watched him, why I knew him, was.
Speaker 1: Before the way he performed on the baseball diamond.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 1: Now, as I matured and aged and started to see
Speaker 1: the issues and the issues he had after baseball, I
Speaker 1: started to see that he had a checkered past. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have a friend that's really close friends with him,
Speaker 1: Kevin Chrisman, who you all know is the sports memorabilia
Speaker 1: guy that has given me great gifts. But he knows
Speaker 1: Pete well, and he knows about his past and has
Speaker 1: spoken with numerous signs about it, and of course Pete
Speaker 1: tried to as he aged, everyone does, people mature, but
Speaker 1: he does have a checkered past, so guys. End result
Speaker 1: is when baseball opens it up. I still think that
Speaker 1: the sports writers will vote him. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll let him in. My opinion, I think he should
Speaker 1: be in, but I do not think I think that William.
Speaker 1: They will stay with what you consider the integrity of
Speaker 1: the game, which is correct. Gambling on baseball does damage
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game. Especially in my opinion, all
Speaker 1: gambling is incorrect. But when you're throwing, if you were
Speaker 1: throwing ball games, if you were not playing your best,
Speaker 1: and again, I don't know. I just know the evidence
Speaker 1: that I've read from Major League Baseball that he was
Speaker 1: never gambling against his team. But you're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: Corregt William. I don't know that to be a fact.
Speaker 1: If someone does, I like for him to call in.
Speaker 1: If someone has some information about did Pete Rose gamble
Speaker 1: against his team when he was a player coach for
Speaker 1: the Reds is an issue that I have. Yes, he
Speaker 1: gambled as a player, and he gambled as the player coach. Yes,
Speaker 1: he did so, guys, that's about it. Anything else, Anthony,
Speaker 1: you got anything to add? I just hate that. In
Speaker 1: one of Pete Rose's interviews, he said, I will probably
Speaker 1: get into the Major League Hall of Fame after I die,
Speaker 1: but I won't know it.
Speaker 2: Does anybody?
Speaker 1: Does anybody feel sorry for Pete Rose? Last question, William,
Speaker 1: do you feel sorry for him? Or did he make
Speaker 1: his bed?
Speaker 3: I don't really feel sorry for him. He made his
Speaker 3: bed and he chose to live in it.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's two.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you make your bed, you have to
Speaker 1: live in it. That's a piece of it. Anthony, what
Speaker 1: do you think you feel sorry for people? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean I agree, it's kind of simple. You know,
Speaker 4: you can't make all the wrong consequences and then you know,
Speaker 4: expect everybody just to get over and forgive you. Sometimes.
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes people they just hold grudges and that's
Speaker 4: the way that their standards and regulations are and you
Speaker 4: just got to live with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are rules, guys, We do have rules, and
Speaker 2: they're there for a reason.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate that I'm being a softie for
Speaker 1: Pete Rose because I'm usually not. I'm usually the guy
Speaker 1: that says.
Speaker 2: Hey, it is the rule. That is the rule.
Speaker 1: I've had this. Let me tell you. I asked people.
Speaker 1: One person said, O J. Simpson got inducted to NFL
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: Got me.
Speaker 1: I just want him to know that the Nicole Brown
Speaker 1: Simpson case didn't break until nineteen ninety four, so he
Speaker 1: was admitted before those issues. Now there were issues they
Speaker 1: with domestic violence throughout some of his marriages, but you
Speaker 1: know that's all.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, William. We'll bring on the next college.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to make sure I answered that
Speaker 1: he was in the NFL Hall of Fame before the
Speaker 1: Nicole Brown Simpson stabbing. Okay, So that's all that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say on that. When I just wanted to answer,
Speaker 1: that was one of the things I got. So let's
Speaker 1: bring ran to the show. Roan, Welcome to the sports radio.
Speaker 2: Are you hi?
Speaker 6: Jerry there? Are you all this morning?
Speaker 2: Good? Good talking a little baseball, that's all.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So I'm not calling in to defend p Rose,
Speaker 6: but what I am calling in to do is question
Speaker 6: you know, the word integrity, character and all that that
Speaker 6: the empires to be in baseball. Bring up their character
Speaker 6: and their integrity is what I questioned. And here's why
Speaker 6: we're going to take on Pete Rose, was Joe Jackson,
Speaker 6: because that's just one individual you know too well to count.
Speaker 6: Choose Joe, but we refuse to take on the steroids
Speaker 6: and the people the integrity of the games. Don't tell
Speaker 6: me the integrity of the game. Was it affected by
Speaker 6: the use of steroids and all the home runs that
Speaker 6: were hit and the multiple stars that was involved in that,
Speaker 6: and they put them in the hall. So you know
Speaker 6: what those are called hypocrites. So I don't want to
Speaker 6: hear them talk about their character and the integrity of
Speaker 6: the games. They need to look in the mirror and
Speaker 6: question their own integrity in their own character because they
Speaker 6: don't have the guts or the backbone to take on
Speaker 6: that problem. So that did, in fact, that affected the
Speaker 6: game too big, in a big way, in a big
Speaker 6: way that they were too And I think it's absolutely
Speaker 6: obscene and disgusting that they chose to let this man
Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame eight months after he died.
Speaker 1: Have the apportune No, that's and Pete Rose said that.
Speaker 1: There's the audio Pete Rose saying, watch guys, I'll get
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame and won't know it. There's
Speaker 1: an audio of that. I listened last night. You're now
Speaker 1: that's the part ron because yes, they were passing those
Speaker 1: things out like like skittles. They're hitting home runs. So
Speaker 1: they're hitting home runs by the droves and everyone knew that.
Speaker 6: Maguire, Barry, Bond and on and a lot of it.
Speaker 1: So that part, Yes, they were trying to bring back baseball.
Speaker 1: They were trying to revive baseball.
Speaker 6: We go to the trend that that didn't didn't affect
Speaker 6: the outcome of games, of the integrity of the games.
Speaker 6: It's so hypocritical, Jerry.
Speaker 2: But that's true.
Speaker 6: That's one guy.
Speaker 2: That's true, always, always, No, that's that is a fact.
Speaker 1: I mean, that is one factual, and it's gone on
Speaker 1: throughout sports for a long time to where it's easier
Speaker 1: to put it on one person than it is to
Speaker 1: put it on the facilities or the aspect of the game.
Speaker 2: Let's just go back to guys.
Speaker 1: Adolph Rup got killed for not wanting to play black athletes.
Speaker 1: Supposedly he got me. I played the tape of Adolf
Speaker 1: up after the game when they lost to Texas at
Speaker 1: Colefield House, nothing but elegant, great things to say about
Speaker 1: Texas West. Not one negative word got me, but the
Speaker 1: n C double A and what the America wanted to
Speaker 1: put everything, everything on Adolf Rup when it was not
Speaker 1: Did you try to go to Florida? Did people try
Speaker 1: to go to Gainesville, Alabama? At the time they put
Speaker 1: it all on de same deal? Exactly, No, exactly.
Speaker 2: You just don't want to always sell the truth.
Speaker 6: And they.
Speaker 1: Exactly they don't want to admit that it's easier to
Speaker 1: place the blame on one person and wash their hands
Speaker 1: of things then to look at totality. Great call, Ron,
Speaker 1: no question, that's fact. That's why, guys, that's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why. And I should that I expect them
Speaker 1: to put Pete Rose in. I do what he did
Speaker 1: on the field is deserving. If we're going to start
Speaker 1: to judge everybody's off field behavior, oh guys, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing it forever. I got no problem with it.
Speaker 1: But let's just make the rules the same. If those
Speaker 1: are going to be the rules, players, owners, managers, it's
Speaker 1: got to be across the board, that's all. So, guys,
Speaker 1: we're at seven thirty three, we're gonna get to our
Speaker 1: second break.
Speaker 2: When we come back, we've got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 2: Of course, the NBA, which is where we're going to
Speaker 2: go directly after this, and some great games.
Speaker 1: Last night Eastwarts Radio. We'll talk to you in a minute.
Speaker 1: Welcome Sports Radio. Thank you for the dialogue. Conversation on
Speaker 1: Pete Rose. We'll have to wait and see December of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, we'll find out when the Classic Era
Speaker 1: Baseball Committee gets together and see if they would admit
Speaker 1: Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson and numerous others into
Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame. Now, let's get with it, Anthony.
Speaker 1: We watched, when we watched the Calves go down, I
Speaker 1: did not watch the Thunder come back and get the Nuggets,
Speaker 1: but I did select. I thought it would be the
Speaker 1: Thunder and the Calves and the finals this year and
Speaker 1: the playoffs started.
Speaker 2: That's what I had predicted.
Speaker 1: I'm staying with that prediction, even though we know the
Speaker 1: Calves are out. Let's start with the Cavs game first, Anthony,
Speaker 1: what do you think what transpired? What has to happen
Speaker 1: for the Calves and Donovan Mitchell to ever see if
Speaker 1: he can advance to win a World Championship.
Speaker 4: I think at this point, I think it's just a
Speaker 4: mental game. If you've watched the series, you watched it
Speaker 4: out the regular season, the physical ability and the capabilities
Speaker 4: of winning games, and I think getting to that next
Speaker 4: level is there. I just think the mental aspect, he's
Speaker 4: still going through a couple of bumps in the road
Speaker 4: to where he's not fully checked in all the way.
Speaker 4: We saw it, even on that player when he gave
Speaker 4: when he slowed down on the layer to let Miles
Speaker 4: turn to Blocket, that one play alone showed a lot
Speaker 4: about that entire season, about their entire playoffs. It just
Speaker 4: didn't make.
Speaker 8: Sense the game before, in Game four, when Darius Garland
Speaker 8: was out, he was splitting the lane, splitting double teams
Speaker 8: and Duncan on Miles Turner, and then he's on a
Speaker 8: fast break layer wide open by himself. In game five,
Speaker 8: slows down, shoots an underhand layup and gets a pint
Speaker 8: off the backboard in a close game that it just
Speaker 8: didn't make sense. I don't know what's going on through
Speaker 8: his head. I don't know if that game four lost
Speaker 8: when he had forty eight points, he strained his calf
Speaker 8: a little bit, and they still lost.
Speaker 4: I think his brain just kind of mentally checked out
Speaker 4: after that, because I feel like when you that's a
Speaker 4: game where I feel like he put one hundred and
Speaker 4: ten percent in and the outcome wasn't what he expected.
Speaker 4: And I just think it just that was that was
Speaker 4: his his his NBA championship right there. That was his
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference Finals game.
Speaker 6: That was all. I think that was.
Speaker 4: All he had left in the tank. I think he
Speaker 4: was just out of stamina too. I think it was
Speaker 4: another thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, conditioning. Okay, Anthony, I agree with you that play.
Speaker 1: We were watching the game that play. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I'm being honest with you all. I just couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: You just hit the gas, you jump, you put the
Speaker 1: ball off the glass. You don't have to dunk it.
Speaker 1: But with his athleticability, which we've seen, you put your
Speaker 1: hand and ball on the backwards. Soon he's release it.
Speaker 1: They can't touch it as a basket. And when he
Speaker 1: slowed down to a walk and let the man running
Speaker 1: down and block the shot in a huge game that
Speaker 1: had to be won at home boy, maybe go gosh,
Speaker 1: something is just not there.
Speaker 2: When I started.
Speaker 1: Speaking with people and of course, I always called Coach Beard,
Speaker 1: numerous other guys that I know have been in the
Speaker 1: league a long time and start to ask them their opinion,
Speaker 1: and everyone's in the same place. Coach Beard said, when
Speaker 1: he came out of University of Louisville, we couldn't believe
Speaker 1: he got drafted as as he did.
Speaker 2: No one did.
Speaker 1: Everyone was expecting him to go late first round, early
Speaker 1: second and ends up being fourteenth pick in Utah. Then
Speaker 1: the best player he played with, Hayward, gets hurt. Brendan
Speaker 1: Hayward from Butler. He has an opportunity to step in
Speaker 1: his first year and shoot a lot of balls, plays well,
Speaker 1: average seventeen a game. He has a six time All
Speaker 1: Star in his eight years in the league. Can't believe
Speaker 1: he's been in the league eight years. I can't believe
Speaker 1: Shay Gildies Alexander's been in the league seven years.
Speaker 2: You will.
Speaker 1: When I started to look at these things trying to
Speaker 1: research what's going on. My opinion after looking at stats
Speaker 1: and all the things, Donovan Mitchell cannot be your best player,
Speaker 1: that's all. And that's not a slap, guys. Let's just
Speaker 1: be honest. Look at all the champions that we have
Speaker 1: you Kyrie and Lebron. You've got Lebron and Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 1: You have Dwayne Wade and Shaq. I mean, guys, that's
Speaker 1: not a slap, it's just a fact. I just don't
Speaker 1: think that he can be your best player on your
Speaker 1: team and you go very far in the playoffs. He's
Speaker 1: a perimeter player, and he's an inconsistent three point shooter. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's very streaky, so say things. Looking at his Chris
Speaker 1: A Hole guys, six time All Star. He's a forty
Speaker 1: four point nine percent field goal shooter. He's a thirty
Speaker 1: six point three percent three point shooter. He's an eighty
Speaker 1: four percent free throw shooter, even though he missed three
Speaker 1: big ones in a row, which goes back to that play, Anthony,
Speaker 1: the play on the layup that when he didn't just
Speaker 1: hit the gas and shoot the layup or dunk the ball,
Speaker 1: what he did made go god.
Speaker 2: It really made I went god. I just like, what
Speaker 2: was that? I just like, I don't know where his
Speaker 2: mind had gone.
Speaker 1: But in my opinion talking to people, I just think
Speaker 1: that the Cavs are going to have to get a
Speaker 1: better player. He has to be your second best player,
Speaker 1: not your best player, not your rally call that person
Speaker 1: that leads your team, that Kobe Bryant mentality, that Michael Jordan,
Speaker 1: Bill Russell mentality, that Magic Johnson Larry Bird mentality.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: That's that didn't come around all the time. That Stephen
Speaker 1: Curry mentality. Guys, it just doesn't come around all the time.
Speaker 1: Really really really good player. Donovan Mitchell, I mean, unbelievable
Speaker 1: player and much better than I expected. That's why I
Speaker 1: give him credit. I didn't think that Donovan Mitchell would
Speaker 1: have the career that he has.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to go back and look, because
Speaker 1: I've said on the show, Anthony volume shooter, the shooting
Speaker 1: percentage as good as anybody in the league. It stacks
Speaker 1: up with anybody's in the league. Let's go to shake Gilligs.
Speaker 1: Alexander's seven year career got me. He's a forty four
Speaker 1: point six percent shooter. Donovan's a forty four point nine. He's,
Speaker 1: when you're looking at totality, a thirty three percent, three
Speaker 1: point thirty seven percent three point shooter.
Speaker 2: His is better. Donovan's is a thirty six point six. Guys,
Speaker 2: they're all very very very close. It's just I.
Speaker 1: Don't think that Donovan can be your best player and
Speaker 1: take you deep into the playoffs. And that's not a slap,
Speaker 1: that's just a fact. A lot of players that needed help.
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland needs to.
Speaker 2: Add a player. William, Now you were throwing in your
Speaker 2: two cents. What do you think? William? Do you do
Speaker 2: you agree or disagree?
Speaker 1: Cincinnati guy Clean Cavalier straight up the street from you,
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 3: I think Evan Mobley is a really good number two,
Speaker 3: and he's developing into probably a star big man.
Speaker 2: He's developing.
Speaker 3: But I think you're only as good as your weakest link.
Speaker 3: In the modern NBA, I think the Pacers are just
Speaker 3: as significantly their floor is higher than the Cavs players
Speaker 3: floor as a whole roster, this whole roster.
Speaker 1: Well, Coach Beard threw that out to me talking about Denver.
Speaker 1: He loves Joka and Murray, he says, but when they
Speaker 1: lost their role players, they're having a hard time. They're
Speaker 1: really struggling to do it again. William, you're a hundred
Speaker 1: percent correct. There hasn't been a repeat in the NBA
Speaker 1: in a long time. I don't think there'll be any
Speaker 1: more repeat champs. I just don't think that'll happen. With
Speaker 1: the movement and the attitude of the players, I just
Speaker 1: don't see that. Are the injuries of the players as
Speaker 1: we see Tatum has gone down. I just don't see
Speaker 1: it happening. I really don't. For some reason, it maybe
Speaker 1: it could. There'll be a team. Everyone thought Boston was
Speaker 1: gonna repeat this year.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 1: Everyone thought Boston was young enough to do it again.
Speaker 1: And after being snubbed when Brown was snubbed from the
Speaker 1: Olympic team and Tatum wasn't played very much on the
Speaker 1: Olympic team, that everyone thought that they would come back
Speaker 1: with a chip on their shoulder and showed the league well,
Speaker 1: I mean their style of play. I just ugh, I'm
Speaker 1: still upset with the way that the Celtics play the
Speaker 1: game of basketball. I really am so best of luck.
Speaker 1: I just think the Caves need to get a player.
Speaker 1: And yes, Mobley's improving, and yes he was an All Star,
Speaker 1: so it's Garland. But when you're talking about the true duo,
Speaker 1: Donovan has never had a duo to where he could
Speaker 1: lean or rely on somebody in his career at this time.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest, guy, Shay Gildis Alexander hasn't either,
Speaker 1: and he's leading his team. So we're gonna watch and
Speaker 1: see if Shaye who I believe, Okay s he's the
Speaker 1: best team.
Speaker 2: And I'm expecting oka Se to win this thing this year.
Speaker 1: I just thought it would be Cleveland and Okay, see,
Speaker 1: I really did so, guys, we're gonna get to our
Speaker 1: last break when we come back. We got a little
Speaker 1: college football news. We've got to talk about college football.
Speaker 1: And you weren't with us yesterday, William, but I had
Speaker 1: to kill Bill Belichick. And now there's rumors, guys that
Speaker 1: there is an issue in North Carolina with coach Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick and his girlfriend. Watch radio, will talk to you
Speaker 1: all in a minute. Welcome back to the sports radio Anthony.
Speaker 1: Last segment, I have to ask you this, William YouTube Anthony.
Speaker 2: I've got to ask you this.
Speaker 1: How did Cooper Flag get to Dallas? Did the NBA cheat?
Speaker 1: Coach Beard said they cheatd I just want to know
Speaker 1: did they cheat? I'm happy, I'm happy for Niko general manager,
Speaker 1: I am, But did the NBA cheat? How did the
Speaker 1: Dallas Mavericks get Cooper? Now look at that team? Now
Speaker 1: look at that team. Hey, guys, Cooper Flag can play,
Speaker 1: He's really going to be good. Give him a chance.
Speaker 1: We've just had to say Donovan Mitchell's eighth year, Chake Gilligs,
Speaker 1: Alexander seventh year, Give that boy two years. If Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis stays healthy, Kyrie comes back with Cooper.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Anthony, What chances do they have
Speaker 2: to be a major player in the West going forward?
Speaker 8: They they got.
Speaker 4: If they come back as a healthy team with Cooper,
Speaker 4: Flag will be a top four, top five team in
Speaker 4: the West in my opinion. And that's just going off
Speaker 4: of just what I see now. Could they be higher
Speaker 4: than that, Yes, but I'd send him at around a
Speaker 4: four or five seed. But I can't sit here and
Speaker 4: say it they actually cheated or not.
Speaker 6: We have no idea.
Speaker 4: But the first time, this isn't the first time we
Speaker 4: haven't seen. We've seen the team with low odds of
Speaker 4: getting them one pick, got it. I mean, we could
Speaker 4: go back to even controversy, even when the Chicago Bulls
Speaker 4: had a three point eight percent chance of getting Derrick
Speaker 4: Rose who's from Chicago, and somehow got him for.
Speaker 8: The first pick.
Speaker 4: So it's it's not the only time we've seen It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: he happens to be a hometown kid, went to see
Speaker 4: me in high school. He went to Memphis and then
Speaker 4: comes back to where he's literally born from and draft
Speaker 4: as a number one pick to the Chicago Bulls with
Speaker 4: a less than four percent chance.
Speaker 8: But we've those.
Speaker 2: Balls are funny.
Speaker 1: Those ping punk balls are funny, Anthony, They're funny. No,
Speaker 1: I agree. I was just playing with you with the NBA.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you what, just like I'm a
Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell fan, I am. People don't give this guy
Speaker 1: his due, But I think now that they'll be able
Speaker 1: to slide PJ Washington. PJ Washington down to the let
Speaker 1: him play the four three that Cooper play some to
Speaker 1: Anthony got me. I think they're gonna be really good.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be larger than people think. Give
Speaker 1: Kyrie the ball, and I think they're gonna be pretty
Speaker 1: dang good, even if you put Cooper at the three
Speaker 1: and PG at the four, which means spacing the floor
Speaker 1: good size. PJ is a great rebounder with Davis. I
Speaker 1: like what they have, Anthony, I really do. I love Lively, Anthony.
Speaker 1: They could be big, athletic. They may be better than
Speaker 1: people think I'm just being honest with you. I just
Speaker 1: want to see the Mavericks come back healthy. That's all
Speaker 1: Davis work out this summer. Beat one hundred percent healthy,
Speaker 1: Kyrie come back. PJ Washington lively he was injured at
Speaker 1: the end of the year with Cooper Flag And they're
Speaker 1: pretty good guys, They're really pretty good. I like their team,
Speaker 1: I really do. So we have to wait and see.
Speaker 1: The NBA always does funny things. That's all funny things.
Speaker 1: Now here's what I have, Anthony. We haven't touched it,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna hit it really quickly.
Speaker 2: What do you think.
Speaker 1: They were ranking the football coaches in the SEC, And
Speaker 1: of course I always go to coach Stoops. A lot
Speaker 1: of people have been really critical of coach Stoops and
Speaker 1: the last few years they have been down not to
Speaker 1: the level that they have played, but they have him
Speaker 1: ranked the tenth best coach in the SEC. Of course,
Speaker 1: you know you got Kirby smart one, of course, no question.
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkege in Texas to Brian Kelly at LSU three.
Speaker 2: Again, you're talking about the Gauntlet.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the best of the best of board
Speaker 1: at Alabama. Kiffin at Mississippi. I mean, you've got the
Speaker 1: best of the best, man. What do you think Shane
Speaker 1: Biember jumped to eighth from South Carolina? They had a
Speaker 1: very good year. What do you think does Mark Stoops
Speaker 1: need to be tenth out of the sixteenth in the SEC?
Speaker 4: He kind of has to be right now. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's had a couple of good seasons, but his SEC
Speaker 4: record has been a little up and down. It's been
Speaker 4: kind of a roller coaster rit since he's been at UK,
Speaker 4: at least over the last five years. Yes, he's no
Speaker 4: the SEC coaches. He's kind of in the towards the middle,
Speaker 4: at the bottom of the totem pole just because of record.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, here's the bottom line.
Speaker 1: Kentucky fans all right now, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: Kentucky fans that say, now they want to make the
Speaker 1: next move Anthony. I used to say no to facilities
Speaker 1: or Anthony. They do have facilities craft Center. I've been
Speaker 1: in the facilities. I've toured all Kentucky's facilities. It's not
Speaker 1: Alabama level, but it's good. You understand me. They have
Speaker 1: good facilities. So I can't say that anymore. I just
Speaker 1: don't know. Can the University of Kentucky jump through the
Speaker 1: upper echelone in the SEC, which is the best and
Speaker 1: the best conference in the country, is just the question mark.
Speaker 1: That's I just don't think that they can ever. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't want to say ever, but I just don't
Speaker 1: see it in my time frame. It may, but I
Speaker 1: think it's just a lot to ask. I don't know why. Well,
Speaker 1: yes I do, because Georgia and Alabama and Texas LSU
Speaker 1: It's a religion.
Speaker 2: That's all there is to it.
Speaker 1: Guys, these schools, it is a religion. It's like Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 1: For someone to say the Kentucky basketball is going to
Speaker 1: drop to the middle of the end of the SEC,
Speaker 1: it'll never happen. They'll fire every coach and move every player.
Speaker 1: It just won't hap Anthony. It is religion. So sitting
Speaker 1: at ten, I think is where a coach stoops should be.
Speaker 1: And there are seasons that he does jump to five,
Speaker 1: and there are seasons that he's sometimes he's thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 1: That's just gonna happen at the University of Kentucky. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that he makes a lot
Speaker 1: of money, Anthony, and he does that they should do.
Speaker 2: More now here's the comparison ant and William, I gonna
Speaker 2: put you on the spot. I know we don't have long.
Speaker 1: They have a national ranking of coaches, and of course
Speaker 1: the national ranking guys again says the same thing. Kirby
Speaker 1: Smarts won, and I mean Brian Kelly and Steve Sarkegan,
Speaker 1: they're all there. Starkegian's four, James Franklin's five, Danny Lanning
Speaker 1: at Oregon is six. You know they've got Freeman at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame seven, to board at Alabama. Ah right, but
Speaker 1: they have University Louisville's coach in that list sitting at sixteen.
Speaker 2: Brohm.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow, Anthony, I'm gonna ask you, because it's time we're done.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you, do you think.
Speaker 1: That's appropriate for University of Louisville Jeff brom To be
Speaker 1: sitting at sixteen at his two years at University of Louisville,
Speaker 1: And just think about this.
Speaker 2: They're one and one against University of Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Fair finally beat Kentucky last year one in one, but
Speaker 1: they jumped him to sixteen out of the ACC, which guys,
Speaker 1: is one of the worst football conferences and basketball conferences.
Speaker 1: The last two or three years that there's ever been.
Speaker 1: And we know that the Commisioner says things have to change.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you man, great job sitting in with us. Anthony,
Speaker 1: get to work and I will speak with you God,
Speaker 1: Willie and I'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Love you all, Bye bye,