Speaker 1: Oh, bed of fir.
Speaker 2: Nod of that, and welcome to the show. This is
Speaker 2: the Cult of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan, I'm Jacob,
Speaker 2: and Jacob has a fun little doocey for us today, sir.
Speaker 3: It's fun, it's disgusting, it's appalling, and it's mind blowing.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you something real quick, Jonathan, when
Speaker 3: you were a child, and I mean a young' right,
Speaker 3: we know, higher than a knee high on a grasshopper. Right, Okay,
Speaker 3: you like to play with bugs, didn't you. Sure every
Speaker 3: kid does, boy or girl, right, especially if it's like
Speaker 3: some kid you don't like and you flick a bug
Speaker 3: on them, a caterpillar and.
Speaker 1: Watch them freak out.
Speaker 3: Is a natural human response, right, Flicking bugs on somebody
Speaker 3: that you don't particularly like, or just to fuck.
Speaker 1: With people, right, yeah, yeah, I mean the lightning bugs.
Speaker 2: We would just take their asses and smear them on
Speaker 2: our faces and play hide in the dark, hide and seek?
Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah, normal wholesome childlike behavior. Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, we have talked in the past about historical precedents
Speaker 3: of people using insects in warfare, right famously. As a
Speaker 3: matter of fact, let me go ahead and get the
Speaker 3: ability to share the screen because we have. Oh, there's
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of things to talk about here,
Speaker 3: but we've talked about times of ancient when people would
Speaker 3: be launching bee hives over walls and siege warfare and
Speaker 3: more famously, what kickstarted the Black plague in Europe. Are
Speaker 3: about to get to that here in a second. And
Speaker 3: so we've understood that insects could be used in warfare
Speaker 3: for biological frames of reference.
Speaker 2: Are you with me on this? Mosquitoes with vaccines inside
Speaker 2: of them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, see we've talked about that before.
Speaker 3: So today, good cult members, we are going to be
Speaker 3: talking about the historical precedents of the United States government
Speaker 3: using fleas, ticks, mosquitoes, crickets, grasshoppers, all of these things
Speaker 3: as a way to infect certain populations.
Speaker 1: Was it done?
Speaker 3: Was it done successfully? To what levels of diseases? Were
Speaker 3: all these things done? Are they still doing it now?
Speaker 3: Why does DARPA have an entire program called our Insect
Speaker 3: Friends that are currently running today?
Speaker 1: Are you all ready to get it?
Speaker 3: And not even that we now have a kissing bug
Speaker 3: that is spreading a disease that's killing people.
Speaker 1: You've heard about this?
Speaker 3: Not oh bro, this bug will bite you on your
Speaker 3: lip right, especially if you have an open like a
Speaker 3: sore from a chapped lip.
Speaker 1: Or something lay its eggs inside of it.
Speaker 3: Whenever you smear it, it goes into your mouth and
Speaker 3: it almost will guarantee kill you.
Speaker 1: There's a new thing that's happening right now in the
Speaker 1: United States.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, what bro come on getting come on now,
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Speaker 3: Read, some references to go down, and this is gonna
Speaker 3: be an episode you're gonna want to look along and
Speaker 3: watch along and all these things. Jonathan, if they have
Speaker 3: not already, tell them where they could.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, with that being said, let's get into it now.
Speaker 3: Like I said ancient times, here just to give everybody
Speaker 3: a frame of reference. This isn't something that the CIA
Speaker 3: and the US military decided to just do on a
Speaker 3: whim like this had no precedence whatsoever. Medieval times you
Speaker 3: had lords that would be launching beehives over the walls
Speaker 3: at cities that they were trying to invade. Now, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say that necessarily launching a beehive would be seen
Speaker 3: as like chemical slash biological weapon. For the record, if
Speaker 3: you hear me say chemical biological for the sake of insects,
Speaker 3: we are talking about biological. But we're gonna get to
Speaker 3: the genetically alter ones later on. But per the timeframe
Speaker 3: we're talking about here, I wouldn't say that bees are
Speaker 3: necessarily chemical biological war right, If anything, unless you know
Speaker 3: that this city has a really high population of people
Speaker 3: that are allergic to bees or something.
Speaker 1: It's more of an annoy points than a threat of death. Really.
Speaker 3: But there was a very famous siege that took place.
Speaker 3: This is called the Siege of Kafa Okay when the
Speaker 3: Golden Horde Mongolians the Huns made their way across and
Speaker 3: they were just wrecking shop. And then in thirteen forty
Speaker 3: six they sieged this one town called Kafa.
Speaker 1: They launched plague infested.
Speaker 3: Corpses over the walls in an attempt to get the
Speaker 3: city sick.
Speaker 1: You know, let's just read the abstract on it right here.
Speaker 3: On the basis of a fourteenth century account by Genoese
Speaker 3: Gabriel de Musi, the Black Death is widely believed to
Speaker 3: have reached Europe from the from Crimea as the result
Speaker 3: of a biological warfare attack. It is not only of
Speaker 3: great historical interest, but also relevant to current efforts to
Speaker 3: evaluate the threat of military or terrorists used the biological weapons.
Speaker 3: Based on published translation of de Musi's manuscript, other fourteenth
Speaker 3: century accounts of the Death, and secondary scholarly literature, I conclude
Speaker 3: that the claims that the biological warfare was used at
Speaker 3: Kafa is plausible and provides the best explanation of entry
Speaker 3: of the plague into the city.
Speaker 1: This theory is consistent.
Speaker 3: With the technology of the times and with the contemporary
Speaker 3: notions of the disease causation. However, the entry of the
Speaker 3: plague into Europe from the Crimea likely occurred independent of
Speaker 3: this event.
Speaker 2: By the way, this is from the National Institute of
Speaker 2: Health website. From a well, it's from the government. It's
Speaker 2: DoD gov NIH dot gov.
Speaker 1: Fair enough.
Speaker 3: Now, the Siegs took place in thirteen forty six, and
Speaker 3: we have again there's multiple accounts that say that they
Speaker 3: launched plague infested bodies over the wall, right, Jonathan, real quick.
Speaker 1: Do you know when the Black Death made its way
Speaker 1: to Europe?
Speaker 2: I'm terrible at at history and dates and shit like that,
Speaker 2: so enlightened me, sirventeen.
Speaker 3: Forty six to thirteen fifty three. So the first year
Speaker 3: that they absolutely had real Black Death issues in this
Speaker 3: continent was the same year as introduced by the Golden Hoard. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't think the Golden Hoard had any intentions on
Speaker 3: it spreading all the way through Europe.
Speaker 1: They were just trying to take that one town. But
Speaker 1: my point is.
Speaker 3: Weapons that are carried by insects can have a very,
Speaker 3: very long rippling effect, even beyond what the intended party
Speaker 3: that used them foresaw within their own heads.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I would imagine too that you know what happens whenever
Speaker 2: those infected insects started mating. Is there some kind of
Speaker 2: cross breeding, you know, mix up of chemicals or drugs
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: That can happen at that time. Yes, yes, and no. Right,
Speaker 1: it depends on environment.
Speaker 3: It depends on the breeding ground that the insects find
Speaker 3: themselves more, you know, prevalently, is it? The conditions are right,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Now, everybody thought that the
Speaker 3: Black Death was spread by rats, and that's why they
Speaker 3: were seen with such an activity. However, it wasn't the
Speaker 3: rats that had them that spread the black plague. It
Speaker 3: was the fleas on the rats that spread the Black Death.
Speaker 3: But back in these days, they didn't have a real
Speaker 3: sense of virology, right.
Speaker 1: You had these witch doctors.
Speaker 3: I say that the the the standard elongated snout plague
Speaker 3: doctor mask. And they thought that dressing scary would scare
Speaker 3: away the evil spirits that are making this person sick.
Speaker 1: They would looking like sooth the Atlantean.
Speaker 3: Over there, dude, Right, And then they had the nose
Speaker 3: full of flowers because it was a lot better than
Speaker 3: the smell of rotting corpses all around them.
Speaker 1: It was what they had.
Speaker 3: As far as virology or even medicine was laughable at
Speaker 3: the highest levels. Now you had your your locals that
Speaker 3: knew herbology, and they had some salves and some sort
Speaker 3: of like herbal medicines that they would give to people
Speaker 3: for certain things. But Black Death hit so fast and
Speaker 3: so hard and killed a third of Europe.
Speaker 1: I actually that.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that weavy beyond this period of time,
Speaker 2: because if you think about it, they were wearing a
Speaker 2: mask to try and mask off, you know, the scent,
Speaker 2: or to try and scare away the spirits.
Speaker 1: We were wearing.
Speaker 2: Not we the majority of people in the world were
Speaker 2: wearing masks and standing six feet apart from each other,
Speaker 2: as if that was going to prevent any spread of
Speaker 2: any disease.
Speaker 3: Ever, very glad that you're bringing this already to the
Speaker 3: current day, because I've got a few examples of things
Speaker 3: that are going to people as we go through this
Speaker 3: list of operations that were taking place in the fifty
Speaker 3: sixties and seventies, I know there's going to be some
Speaker 3: people out there that thinking, oh my god, the CIA
Speaker 3: were so horrible, the US military industrial complex did horrible things.
Speaker 1: Thank God that was then and this is now.
Speaker 3: I want to whenever that thought comes into your head,
Speaker 3: because it inevitably will I get it. I want you
Speaker 3: to put a big old pin in that and wait
Speaker 3: until we get to the current day and age Okay,
Speaker 3: we're not even not even tall looking about COVID, right,
Speaker 3: just talking about the shit in the early two thousands
Speaker 3: and the mid twenty teens, and now this new bug
Speaker 3: that's going around. We're trust me, We're going to get
Speaker 3: to all of it. But anyway, all right, So now
Speaker 3: that we have laid the historical precedence for biological warfare
Speaker 3: to be conducted using insects that were infected with certain
Speaker 3: types of bacteria and diseases, now let's cut to the
Speaker 3: nineteen fifties. It's the Cold War, right, project paper clip
Speaker 3: is on and I want everybody to put a big
Speaker 3: old pin in that one for later two. But moving forward,
Speaker 3: Elvis is on the radio, right, he's getting in trouble
Speaker 3: for doing his hip gyrations on the televisions. People are
Speaker 3: losing their minds about that coke sells for a nickel
Speaker 3: gallon of gas. I think three cents, right, It's a
Speaker 3: simple time. It's a good time for the majority of Americans.
Speaker 3: And during this timeframe we had nuclear warheads America famously,
Speaker 3: it was the first country to ever actually developed it.
Speaker 1: That would be the Manhattan Project.
Speaker 3: And as soon as World War Two ended, we entered
Speaker 3: a cold war where it was a race to build
Speaker 3: as much nukes as possible. It was US versus Russia
Speaker 3: and capitalism versus communism, and that was This is in
Speaker 3: the early stages of it, right. But here's the problem.
Speaker 3: Nukes are messy. Nuclear bombs are messy. There's a clean
Speaker 3: up associated with it. There's a radioactive half life of
Speaker 3: a certain area. You fry people's chromosomes and now they
Speaker 3: have their deform, their babies can be deformed. It was
Speaker 3: just a mess And they're potentially fake and gay. They
Speaker 3: are most assuredly not fake. I can't speak it. They're
Speaker 3: gay or not.
Speaker 1: Nukes could be gay. They are definitely not fake.
Speaker 2: They get some boy on boy action, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: It did they very well, could you know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know how the nukes be fucking, but I
Speaker 3: do know that they do fuck, right, that is a fact.
Speaker 3: But anyway, so we had nukes, and now Russia had nukes.
Speaker 1: Now we have a thing called mutually.
Speaker 3: Assured destruction, where everybody knows that if you launch one,
Speaker 3: every guy's gonna launch one at you.
Speaker 1: And we can't have that.
Speaker 3: Sure, it would be way easier to just nuke all
Speaker 3: those comedy bastards and just be.
Speaker 1: Done with it.
Speaker 3: How many times have we heard people say, well, I
Speaker 3: just nuke the Middle East and turn into a big
Speaker 3: old parking lot, Dad, make it easier. Yeah, okay, granted, yes,
Speaker 3: but that also comes with a whole other slew of
Speaker 3: problems that we don't really want to field.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's a lot of blowback there.
Speaker 3: So seeing as how we had nukes, and yes, we
Speaker 3: need to build more and bigger and better and all that,
Speaker 3: we knew that realistically we wouldn't be able to use them,
Speaker 3: so we decided to kind of get a little creative.
Speaker 3: Nukes would always be the epic saber rattle, and they
Speaker 3: still are to this day, right, but we had to
Speaker 3: have something that had.
Speaker 1: A little more action behind it.
Speaker 3: So the US government, and by government I do in
Speaker 3: fact mean the US Air Force and the Army at
Speaker 3: this time.
Speaker 1: The CIA is going to weigh in here in a
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 3: But the US military got creative and decided to put
Speaker 3: a new spin on an old concept. A weapon that
Speaker 3: is virtually untraceable, super cost effective, and could be seen
Speaker 3: as potentially quote unquote natural forces. How can you predict
Speaker 3: an act of God that came and made a just
Speaker 3: throwing it out here, a blight come across your entire cornfield,
Speaker 3: and now your country doesn't have corn.
Speaker 1: That wasn't us. You're gonna blame us for your crops failing.
Speaker 3: Really, it was all within the realm of plausible deniability
Speaker 3: and cost effective. One of these labs were creating a
Speaker 3: million mosquitoes a week.
Speaker 1: But we're gonna get to that here in a moment.
Speaker 3: Now, let's start off the conversation nineteen fifty five with
Speaker 3: Operation Big Buzz. If the name sounds ridiculous, it is.
Speaker 3: The military is horrible at naming their operations.
Speaker 1: It's a bit too on the nose and a bit
Speaker 1: too like, well, no shit, Sherlock.
Speaker 3: At least the CIA gives a little spin to it, right,
Speaker 3: Operation north Woods. You won't even know what that's about.
Speaker 3: That's about dudes dressed like Cubans invading Miami and Florida.
Speaker 3: Northwoods ain't got shit to do with the beach. It's
Speaker 3: a little spin to it. The military's like Operation Big Buzz,
Speaker 3: And in a moment we're gonna get to Operation.
Speaker 1: Big Itch, because again they're yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's read just a little bit about Operation Big Buzz.
Speaker 2: Operation Big Buzz occurred in June nineteen fifty five and
Speaker 2: in the US state of Georgia. The operation was a
Speaker 2: field test designed to determine the feasibility of producing, storing,
Speaker 2: loading into munitions, and dispersing from aircraft the yellow fever
Speaker 2: yellow fever mosquito, though these were not infected for the test,
Speaker 2: it says in quotations the second goal of the operation
Speaker 2: was to determine whether the mosquitoes would survive their dispersion
Speaker 2: and seek meals on the ground. Around three hundred and
Speaker 2: thirty thousand uninfected mosquitoes were dropped from an aircraft in
Speaker 2: E fourteen bombs and dispersed from the ground in Savannah,
Speaker 2: Georgia's predominantly black Carver Village neighborhood. In total, about one
Speaker 2: million female mosquitoes were bred for the testing. Remaining mosquitoes
Speaker 2: were used in munitions, loading and storage test. Those mosquitoes
Speaker 2: that were air dispersed were dropped from airplanes three hundred
Speaker 2: feet or ninety one meters above the ground, spreading out
Speaker 2: on their own and also due to the wind.
Speaker 1: So here's the overarching theme here. Essentially, it was a
Speaker 1: test run.
Speaker 3: They wanted to see if mosquitoes could survive a high
Speaker 3: altitude drop just right off the rip. Mosquitoes live on
Speaker 3: the ground. They never go faster than maybe a mile
Speaker 3: per hour, so we don't really know if they get
Speaker 3: dropped from up high and then they the bomb carrying them,
Speaker 3: let's ease, use canister for lack of better words, bombs
Speaker 3: makes it sound like it's an explosion, it wasn't.
Speaker 1: So a canister holding them.
Speaker 3: If it opens and they get released at three hundred feet,
Speaker 3: will they be too disoriented from the fall that they
Speaker 3: won't fly out and do their job? Will they not
Speaker 3: bite people? Will they, you know, just fall to the
Speaker 3: ground dead? Like it was a test run, right, So
Speaker 3: they wanted to see would they survive a high outitude fall,
Speaker 3: disperse over a large area target, and bite the locals
Speaker 3: once they did land.
Speaker 1: Well, there it is.
Speaker 3: The US Air Force dropped three hundred thousand of them
Speaker 3: out of a sea one nineteen transport plane. And of
Speaker 3: course they told no one that they were going to
Speaker 3: do it, and never came clean to the people of
Speaker 3: Savannah period like ever. And of course they would drop
Speaker 3: it over a black area of Savannah because obviously this
Speaker 3: was the fifties, and it was the fucking the military.
Speaker 1: It's of a she out of a C one nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting term there, I mean, that's that's
Speaker 3: the nomenclature for the plane. It was like a C
Speaker 3: one thirty was a one nineteen. It's a transport plane.
Speaker 3: It's a troop transport plane, and they also use it
Speaker 3: for carrying large cargo and it can carry bombs if
Speaker 3: it's being like this kind of a payload.
Speaker 2: So actually, if you can run, stop, if you can
Speaker 2: stop sharing the screen, I'll show some pictures of this
Speaker 2: Carver village and so we can kind of get an
Speaker 2: idea about what it is we're looking at. This was
Speaker 2: not some you know, shitty old neighborhood. I mean, yeah
Speaker 2: it was. It was actually a decent little neighborhood. But
Speaker 2: it was all black, predominantly black people that lived in
Speaker 2: this neighborhood, which in the nineteen fifties, I can't say
Speaker 2: that I'm super surprised that they would do something like that.
Speaker 1: Segregation was still very much a thing.
Speaker 3: We've talked about the Tuskegee experiments, right, and they would
Speaker 3: just do this to black cities and populations and all
Speaker 3: of these things. So, yeah, the Carver Village was a
Speaker 3: segregated town, explastive exclusive colored development, US government approved.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. It was a black's only town essentially.
Speaker 3: So when it came time to test if mosquitoes would
Speaker 3: bite a bunch of people, clearly they would go to
Speaker 3: this area because they were inherently racist and horrible back
Speaker 3: in these days.
Speaker 2: All the water too, that's perfect breeding around for mosquitoes.
Speaker 1: Indeed they were.
Speaker 3: They told no one that they were doing this, by
Speaker 3: the way, so the local inhabitants are just kind of like, huh,
Speaker 3: mosquitoes are really bad this year. That just that just
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. But they never found out what
Speaker 3: the situation was. Now again, they didn't spread yellow fever.
Speaker 3: These mosquitoes were not infected with any virus. They were
Speaker 3: just test running it to see would they drop, would
Speaker 3: they survive, would they go bite people? What does the
Speaker 3: situation look like? And they bit everything, animals, people, you
Speaker 3: name it. And they bred like crazy, So the test
Speaker 3: was successful, right understood. Now, this was the I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: this is the first recorded mosquito carpet bombing in history,
Speaker 3: which you know, round of applause for the assholes on
Speaker 3: that one. But at least it's worth noting that never
Speaker 3: before in human history had something like this been attempted. Now,
Speaker 3: this was not the first time that actually this was attempted.
Speaker 3: This is the first time it was attempted with mosquitoes.
Speaker 3: This is not first time that this was attempted period,
Speaker 3: as far as a bug carpet bomb is concerned. Next,
Speaker 3: we go to one year prior with Operation Big Itch
Speaker 3: nineteen forty or fifty four. Rather, they planned on dropping
Speaker 3: thousands of fleas over specific test sites in the Dungway
Speaker 3: Proving Grounds in Utah just outside of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, here's the deal.
Speaker 3: Though, one bomb malfunctioned and released the fleas inside the plane.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. This is what you call karma. But anyway,
Speaker 1: let's read it.
Speaker 2: Operation Big Itch was a US entomological warfare field test
Speaker 2: using uninfected fleas to determine their coverage and survivability as
Speaker 2: a vector for biological agents. The tests were conducted at
Speaker 2: Dungway Proving Ground in nineteen fifty four. It was it
Speaker 2: was September nineteen fifty four series of tests at Dungway
Speaker 2: Proving Ground in Utah. The tests were designed to determine
Speaker 2: coverage patterns and survivability of the tropical rat flee for
Speaker 2: the use in biological warfare as disease vector. The fleas
Speaker 2: used and these trials were not infected by any biological agent.
Speaker 2: The fleas were loaded into two types of munitions and
Speaker 2: dropped from the air, the E fourteen bomb and the
Speaker 2: E twenty three bomb, which could be clustered into the
Speaker 2: E eighty six cluster bomb and E seventy seven bomb, respectively.
Speaker 2: When the cluster bombs reached two thousand or one thousand feet,
Speaker 2: the bomblets would drop via parachute, disseminating their vector. The
Speaker 2: E fourteen was designed to hold one hundred thousand fleas
Speaker 2: and the E twenty three was designed to hold two
Speaker 2: hundred thousand flees, but the E twenty three failed in
Speaker 2: over half of the preliminary big ch tests. The E
Speaker 2: twenty threes malfunctioned during testing and the fleas were released
Speaker 2: into the aircraft, where they bit the pilot, bombardier and
Speaker 2: an observer. As a result, the remaining big itch tests
Speaker 2: were conducted using only the smaller capacity E floen. Guinea
Speaker 2: pigs were used as test subjects and placed around a
Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty yard circular grid.
Speaker 1: That's poor guinea pigs.
Speaker 3: So I mean, granted they're using animal testing, and I
Speaker 3: would prefer them use guinea pigs over the inhabitants.
Speaker 1: Of Savannah, Georgia. Just me personally speaking on behalf of myself.
Speaker 3: But that being said, this was the first run of
Speaker 3: them doing some sort of an aerial bombardment of insects
Speaker 3: just to see what would happen as a test ground here.
Speaker 1: And yes, it did prove effective.
Speaker 3: However, instant karma, bitch, the pilot, the flight attendant person,
Speaker 3: the observer, the bombader, all of these people got lit
Speaker 3: up with these fleas and they.
Speaker 1: Were bad off.
Speaker 3: When they got to the ground, they were pissed and
Speaker 3: it's like, well, yeah, now you know what this feels like.
Speaker 3: And still they proceeded. So Operation Big Itch happened in
Speaker 3: nineteen fifty four. Operation was I'm sorry, Big Itch, and
Speaker 3: then Big Buzz happened in nineteen fifty five.
Speaker 2: So you know, nobody wants to test these things on themselves.
Speaker 2: It's like the same people that are that are always
Speaker 2: talking about you know, the were overpopulated as a species
Speaker 2: with the with the humans, and I'm like kill yourself done,
Speaker 2: I mean, take care of the issue.
Speaker 3: You know, you would think you would think that that
Speaker 3: would be the correct way to go about it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: And then we continue on with Operation may Day. So
Speaker 3: let's just talk a little bit about Operation may Day here.
Speaker 2: Operation may Day involved a series of EW tests from
Speaker 2: April to November nineteen fifty six. The tests were designed
Speaker 2: to reveal information about the dispersal of yellow fever mosquitoes
Speaker 2: in an urban area. The mosquitoes were released from ground
Speaker 2: level in Savannah, Georgia, and then recovered using traps baited
Speaker 2: with dry ice. The operation was detailed in a particularly
Speaker 2: declassified US Army report in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so about this. They went back to Savannah and
Speaker 3: did it again. This was in fifty six. Keep in
Speaker 3: mind Operation Big Bus was nineteen fifty five. So the
Speaker 3: next year they decided to try it again, but this time,
Speaker 3: instead dropping it from a plane, we'll just release them
Speaker 3: on the ground.
Speaker 1: See what happens. My collective. If I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to interrupt your head.
Speaker 2: My thing is, if you're really just worried about trying
Speaker 2: to see if the bugs can land safely, if that
Speaker 2: really is the main issue right here, right Why not
Speaker 2: just release it? You know how many fucking like acres
Speaker 2: and acres and miles and miles of swamp land that
Speaker 2: nobody is living on in the South. I'm sure that
Speaker 2: they got some of that in Georgia, Louisiana. It's all
Speaker 2: over the damn place.
Speaker 1: Just release it there. Why do you got to release
Speaker 1: it on people?
Speaker 3: Because they had to see if the mosquitoes would bite
Speaker 3: people once they landed.
Speaker 1: How would they be able to gather that information? Though?
Speaker 3: Because you could, there's reports, you could ask local people like, hey.
Speaker 1: The mosquito seemed a little more this year. Bro.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I don't know what is going on,
Speaker 3: but I've lived here twenty years. This year, in the
Speaker 3: past two weeks, bro, there has been more mosquitoes than
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: You can get these kinds of reports from people.
Speaker 2: I feel that way about. What are those those bugs
Speaker 2: that stay stuck on each other?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Love bugs, love bugs? My god, they are out in
Speaker 2: full fledged this year, dude.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm I am personally of the belief that they
Speaker 3: were created in a lab. And depending on what source
Speaker 3: you read, some will say it was in Georgia. Some
Speaker 3: will say it was that LSU whatever, but there was
Speaker 3: a college lab.
Speaker 1: Open to interpretation on which one.
Speaker 3: I personally think LSU that they were biologically splicing bugs
Speaker 3: because they were trying to create a new bug that
Speaker 3: would help pollinate the corn population, the corn growth and
Speaker 3: would have a bigger yield. Unfortunately, these bugs don't eat corn,
Speaker 3: they don't eat shit. They literally just get there born,
Speaker 3: They fuck, and they die. It's all they do.
Speaker 2: I mean it sounds like sounds like a good life,
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but they are quite the nuisance.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm telling you, I stopped at a gas
Speaker 2: station and they were just I couldn't breathe without almost
Speaker 2: inhaling these two bugs that were just stuck at the
Speaker 2: ends of each other.
Speaker 1: I'm like, my god, this is too much to further
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 3: Love bugs used to be only a springtime thing my
Speaker 3: entire life growing up.
Speaker 1: You would only see them when it went from winter
Speaker 1: to spring.
Speaker 3: It would start warming up, and of course, warming up
Speaker 3: in Louisiana means getting back to a ball me eighty
Speaker 3: five to ninety where we belong, right, and then we
Speaker 3: would see the love bugs come out. But by May
Speaker 3: maybe July maybe July. Usually by June they'd be gone,
Speaker 3: they would have dispersed.
Speaker 1: They only come once a year. Now they come twice
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 3: When the fuck do love bugs start making a spring
Speaker 3: and fall time ordeal.
Speaker 1: This is a new thing. It's messed up. It's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest.
Speaker 2: I would say that it's probably the biggest nuisance outside
Speaker 2: of mosquitoes in Louisiana.
Speaker 1: I would agree.
Speaker 3: Now, love bugs don't bite, right, they don't. They just
Speaker 3: they're attracted to white vehicles. You have to go to
Speaker 3: the car wash at least like twice a week if
Speaker 3: you're the type person that cares about that, and.
Speaker 1: It's an issue.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So anyway, not to take away from the
Speaker 3: biological testing that was done on human populations by these
Speaker 3: disgusting entities, but yes, Operation may Day was another experiment done,
Speaker 3: and again they weren't infected with the yellow fever, but
Speaker 3: it was another test run to see if we were
Speaker 3: to infect these genetically altered mosquitoes, would they go and
Speaker 3: bite the local population. They absolutely did, and then they
Speaker 3: were covered a lot of these mosquitoes using dry ice
Speaker 3: because mosquitoes they don't inhale oxygen.
Speaker 1: They inhale carbon dioxide.
Speaker 3: They're attracted to carbon dioxide, and that's why they bite you,
Speaker 3: typically more at night, typically because your body is putting
Speaker 3: off four carbon dioxide while you sleep, them when you're awake.
Speaker 1: I think I've heard that before, but either way it goes.
Speaker 3: Right now, this was all classified and nobody talked about
Speaker 3: it until a US Army report in nineteen eighty one
Speaker 3: confirmed it, which I think was nice. Now, as we're
Speaker 3: talking about here, it was partially declassified in a US
Speaker 3: Army report in nineteen eighty one. On screen right now
Speaker 3: is a portion of the unclassified report from the US
Speaker 3: Army Chemical Corps fiscal year of nineteen fifty nine to
Speaker 3: till January of nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: That's when it was report, excuse me, January nineteen sixties
Speaker 3: when this was compiled to report on the findings of
Speaker 3: the fiscal year nineteen fifty nine. Right, So it's like
Speaker 3: an after action report. That being said, we're not going
Speaker 3: to read a lot of it, but we are going
Speaker 3: to read at least the table of contents and a
Speaker 3: few things that I find to be quite fascinating.
Speaker 1: Let's just read this right here.
Speaker 3: The technical operations Jonathan what are these things that stand
Speaker 3: out to you here?
Speaker 2: Yellow fever, anti crop BW gas mask, vulcanizer.
Speaker 1: Let's see what else.
Speaker 2: Burster and scendiary, field protection and treatment, decontaminating slurry, anti set,
Speaker 2: white phosphorus grenade.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't a thing before like that got used more,
Speaker 3: particularly in the Vietnam War.
Speaker 1: Is right before that nineteen fifty nine they were like, Yo,
Speaker 1: there's this.
Speaker 3: Shit called white phosphorus and it is dope, but let's
Speaker 3: talk for another day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it just seems to be a bunch. Then
Speaker 2: you get down to the material, so you would have
Speaker 2: procurement and production, capability, organization and management, operation black magic holla.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I thought that would stand out to you.
Speaker 3: But we're not gonna get that far down as far
Speaker 3: as the report goes. We are gonna stick on some
Speaker 3: of these things up here. CS which is just a
Speaker 3: chemical irritant that they found. We today would know this
Speaker 3: as CS gas. Right, the gas chamber. For anybody who
Speaker 3: has been in the military and gone through boot camp
Speaker 3: and you had to go to the gas chamber, This
Speaker 3: is when this was first really tested and understand like, hey,
Speaker 3: we could use this shit.
Speaker 1: It's an irritant.
Speaker 3: You are ninety nine percent of the time not going
Speaker 3: to die from it unless you have like asthma or something.
Speaker 3: But to your average person, that is healthy in that regard,
Speaker 3: you're gonna be fine. Underneath that is something called tulerimia
Speaker 3: aka rabbit.
Speaker 1: Disease or deer disease.
Speaker 3: You're gonna talk about that yellow fever and anti crop
Speaker 3: biological weapons.
Speaker 1: That's what b W stands for.
Speaker 3: So we're not going to read the entire report because
Speaker 3: a lot of it goes more into the uh, you know,
Speaker 3: this scientist at this lab found this, and it's it's
Speaker 3: a lot of the nomenclature things that we're not too
Speaker 3: concerned with on this one. However, we do need to
Speaker 3: talk about this one. So let's learn a little bit
Speaker 3: about tularemia.
Speaker 2: Ten years ago and it's searched for biological warfare agents.
Speaker 2: The Chemical Core established a project to determine the military
Speaker 2: usefulness of Bacterium tulerins. This micro organism causes tulimia, also
Speaker 2: known as rabid fever and deer fly fever. The disease
Speaker 2: occurs naturally in many kinds of animals and is passed
Speaker 2: along to many passed along to man by ticks, flies,
Speaker 2: contaminated water, infected animal meat, or inhalation of infected material.
Speaker 2: Man man comes down with the sickness one to ten days,
Speaker 2: most commonly three days after being infected. The victim is
Speaker 2: prostrated with chills and fever. There are two forms of toleramia,
Speaker 2: the cutitaneous and the typho typhoidal.
Speaker 1: The latter typhoidal, Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: The latter is much more dangerous, with the mortality mortality
Speaker 2: rate in untreated cases about thirty percent. If pneumonia develops,
Speaker 2: the mortality rate jumps to forty percent. It is this
Speaker 2: typhoidal form which is of paramount importance as an agent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's continue here.
Speaker 3: It says the new antibiotics are quite effective in arresting
Speaker 3: the progress of tileroremia infections, but they do not modify
Speaker 3: the debilitating effects of the disease. This is important because
Speaker 3: convalescence from the disease is usually slow and may extend
Speaker 3: for a period from six months to a year. Troops therefore,
Speaker 3: infected with Bacterium tilleries could turn into long term hospital cases,
Speaker 3: putting a strain on enemy hospital facilities as well as
Speaker 3: effectively putting soldiers out of action.
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, they talk more about the size of them.
Speaker 3: They're like point three microns in diameter to point seven
Speaker 3: microns long. It grows best around thirty seven degrees celsius,
Speaker 3: the temperature of most warm blooded animals. They go into
Speaker 3: it from a very scientific standpoint.
Speaker 2: There's so many types of warfare, dude, and they found
Speaker 2: out just about all of them.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's go into the next one, yellow fever. Here
Speaker 1: we go.
Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty three, the Biological Warfare Laboratories at Fort
Speaker 2: Dietrich established a program to study the use of anthropods
Speaker 2: for spreading anti personal biological warfare agents. The advantages of
Speaker 2: anthropods as biological warfare carriers are these. They inject the
Speaker 2: agent directly into the body, so that a mask is
Speaker 2: no protection to a soldier, and they will remain alive
Speaker 2: for some time keeping.
Speaker 1: What does that say? Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: I do apologize if some of this is a little
Speaker 3: hard to readase all of our good cult members. This
Speaker 3: is a PDF of a carbon copy of a print
Speaker 3: from a Thing from nineteen fifty nine that was released
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty one. So, I mean, we're doing the
Speaker 3: best we can here, but this is original source information
Speaker 3: that we are reading to you at this time.
Speaker 2: Keeping them constantly dangerous, it says. One of the insects
Speaker 2: picked for the study was the andes Agypti mosquito, the
Speaker 2: carrier of yellow fever virus. This species is widely distributed
Speaker 2: between latitudes of forty degrees north and forty deg degree south.
Speaker 2: In the United States, it occurs as far as Norfolk, Virginia,
Speaker 2: but cannot survive the winter's north of this latitude. The
Speaker 2: mosquito favors human habitations as breeding places. The female mosquito
Speaker 2: sucks blood from animals or humans, but seems to prefer humans.
Speaker 2: It takes its first meal two days after emerging from
Speaker 2: the larva stage, and seeks blood again at intervals of
Speaker 2: about three days. While probing for blood, the mosquito transmits
Speaker 2: yellow fever virus to the unknowing victim.
Speaker 3: Now they talk a little bit about the effectiveness of
Speaker 3: it and these types of things, But now let's learn
Speaker 3: a little bit about yellow fever in and of itself.
Speaker 2: Yellow fever is a highly dangerous disease. A person begins
Speaker 2: to show symptoms of the fever from two to ten days.
Speaker 2: The average is three days after he has been bitten
Speaker 2: by the mosquito. The fever appears suddenly, causing headache, high temperature, rigor, vomiting,
Speaker 2: and even prostration. If the disease is fatal, death usually
Speaker 2: come on the sixth or seventh day. If the patient recovers,
Speaker 2: he is week for a period of two weeks to
Speaker 2: two months. There is no known therapy for yellow fever
Speaker 2: other than symptomatic, and in severe cases, the patient has
Speaker 2: a poor chance of recovering. Of the clinical cases, since
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred, one third of the patients have died one third.
Speaker 1: So can you imagine that they solve this?
Speaker 3: And they're like, wait a minute, now, you're telling me
Speaker 3: that we can infect mosquitoes in a lab somewhere a
Speaker 3: million a week. We could produce them because they have
Speaker 3: a very fast turnover rate as far as their gestation
Speaker 3: and larva stage and all that. And you're telling me
Speaker 3: that if we just drop some canisters of this bug
Speaker 3: that is very cheap to manufacture, very cheap to produce,
Speaker 3: no one would ever know it was us, because I mean, hell,
Speaker 3: it's a mosquito. Bro we gotta make a mosquito tear
Speaker 3: up a bunch of you're gonna mind control mosquito. And
Speaker 3: you're telling me that if we can effectively use this,
Speaker 3: that one third of our enemy could be taken out
Speaker 3: in a matter of a week.
Speaker 2: That's pretty easy, if you're looking at it from that way, heartless, yes.
Speaker 3: But then it continues on to show how easy this
Speaker 3: this could just happen.
Speaker 2: Every few years, an epidemic occurs somewhere in the world,
Speaker 2: primarily in Africa or the and the Americas, occasionally in Europe.
Speaker 2: Yellow fever has never occurred in some areas, including Asia,
Speaker 2: and therefore it is quite probable that the population of
Speaker 2: the USSR would be quite susceptible to the disease. If
Speaker 2: military attacks were made with this mosquito's mosquitoes basically the
Speaker 2: yellow fever mosquitoes, it would be quite difficult to detect
Speaker 2: the fact, particularly if this type of mosquito ordinary ordinarily
Speaker 2: lived in the area. While there is a possibility that
Speaker 2: a trained entomologist fuck me, might realize that an attack
Speaker 2: had taken place, it would be unlikely, and even if
Speaker 2: an attack were suspected, it could not be confirmed until
Speaker 2: symptoms of the disease broke out, which would take two
Speaker 2: or more days. There is a yellow fever vaccine that
Speaker 2: has been that has proven to be an effective prophylactic,
Speaker 2: but it would be impossible for a nation such as
Speaker 2: the USSR to quickly undertake a mass immunization program to
Speaker 2: protect all to protect millions of people. The difficulties that
Speaker 2: an enemy would face in detecting infected mosquitos and protecting
Speaker 2: protecting their population would make the mosquito yellow fever combination
Speaker 2: an extremely effective biological warfare agent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now we can carry on here for just a
Speaker 3: couple more paragraphs.
Speaker 1: When they talk about, you know.
Speaker 3: They tested the employing of this in April nineteen fifty
Speaker 3: six in Savannah. This is them confirming it, and then
Speaker 3: down here they talk about the method that.
Speaker 1: They bred them.
Speaker 2: The Chemical Core tested the practicality of employing the mosquitoes
Speaker 2: to carrying to carry a biological warfare agent in several ways.
Speaker 2: In April to November nineteen fifty six, the CORE ran
Speaker 2: trials in Savannah, Georgia, by releasing uninfected female mosquitos in
Speaker 2: a residential area and then with cooperation of people in
Speaker 2: the neighborhood, estimating how many mosquitoes entered houses and bit people.
Speaker 2: Also in nineteen fifty six, the cores released six hundred
Speaker 2: thousand uninfected mosquitoes from a plane at Avon Park Bombing Range, Florida.
Speaker 2: Within a day, the mosquitoes had spread a distance of
Speaker 2: between one and two miles and had bitten many people.
Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty eight, further tests at Avon Park Air
Speaker 2: Force based Florida showed that mosquitoes could easily be disseminated
Speaker 2: from helicopters, would spread more than a mile in each direction,
Speaker 2: and would enter all types of buildings. The test showed
Speaker 2: that mosquitoes could be spread over areas of several square
Speaker 2: miles by means of devices dropped from planes or set
Speaker 2: up on the ground. And while these tests were made
Speaker 2: with uninfected mosquitoes, it is fairly safe, it is a
Speaker 2: fairly safe assumption that infected mosquitos could spread equally well.
Speaker 2: The yellow fever mosquitoes were produced in the laboratory by
Speaker 2: the following method. A colony of six thousand to ten
Speaker 2: thousand adult mosquitos were confined in a cage where they
Speaker 2: fed on sugar, syrup and blood. The colony was maintained
Speaker 2: for two weeks, then destroyed. During their life, the mosquitoes
Speaker 2: laid hundreds of thousands of eggs on moist paper towels.
Speaker 2: Mosquito eggs, which could be kept for several months under
Speaker 2: proper temperature and humidity, were hatched in water and the
Speaker 2: larva reared in trays. The larva turned into adult mosquitos
Speaker 2: one to two weeks later. Fort Dietrich's laboratories were capable
Speaker 2: of producing a half a million mosquitos per month, and
Speaker 2: the Engineering Command designed a plant capable of producing one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty million mosquitos per month.
Speaker 1: Say I want to give real quick here.
Speaker 3: They're talking about one place could produce a half a
Speaker 3: million a month. That's cute, another place one hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty million mosquitos a month.
Speaker 1: That's what do you do with that? Well, they knew
Speaker 1: exactly what to do with that.
Speaker 3: They weren't doing it to test the breeding capabilities of
Speaker 3: the mosquito because they just cared about insect information, big dog.
Speaker 3: They were looking to use it for the yellow fever virus.
Speaker 2: It just reminds me of and I brought this up before,
Speaker 2: but me and my daughter went to go see the
Speaker 2: new Lelo and Stitch movie, and the reason why I
Speaker 2: liked it, but the reason why they couldn't like take
Speaker 2: out Earth and just nuke Earth. The aliens or whatever
Speaker 2: was because they had a protected species otherwise known as
Speaker 2: the mosquito on this planet.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm sorry me and you were gonna just First
Speaker 3: of all, yes, that was the reason why the aliens
Speaker 3: couldn't nuke the planet. But also, Ohana means family. Nobody
Speaker 3: gets left behind, her forgotten. Oh my bad. Here, let
Speaker 3: me drop my sister with these people so that I
Speaker 3: can take off to California to learn about oceanography because
Speaker 3: there's no school in Hawaii, an island to teach oceanography.
Speaker 1: Now, the newly Low and Stitch was absolute trash.
Speaker 2: Dude, Wow, that's taken it a step too far.
Speaker 1: I thought, can talk.
Speaker 2: You get hung up on these little things. I get it.
Speaker 2: What's his name? Wasn't Russian?
Speaker 1: You know you? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that thing fine. I don't like it, but I
Speaker 3: could get by with it, right. Certain things of the
Speaker 3: plot that didn't make sense without jumba or not jump,
Speaker 3: but I'm sorry a commander sharkface fuck yeah, I forget
Speaker 3: his name. That was kind of a massive plot point,
Speaker 3: but like, okay, cool. Even the entire thing of O'hana
Speaker 3: that was ripped away because of New Disney. I'm just
Speaker 3: not a fan of New Disney.
Speaker 2: And what do you do when you're sitting on your
Speaker 2: couch and you're about to watch a movie? Is your
Speaker 2: first goal to try and find what can I want
Speaker 2: on this movie that will bring me displeasure? How can
Speaker 2: I make this night even shittier? I want this movie
Speaker 2: to be absolute trash and I want something to complain about.
Speaker 2: That's what you sound like, Karen.
Speaker 3: No, dude, if I would have never seen the original
Speaker 3: LEL and Stitch, I probably would like this version of it,
Speaker 3: the live action version, because I've seen the cartoon and
Speaker 3: I know what it's supposed to be about and what
Speaker 3: it's supposed to show in all these things. Then to
Speaker 3: see how they bastardized it. It's the same one like
Speaker 3: the snow White. I know what the original snow White's
Speaker 3: supposed to be. This new snow White there's no band
Speaker 3: of thieves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can take you can take a whole
Speaker 2: lot more creative liberties and a cartoon as opposed to
Speaker 2: like real life action.
Speaker 1: I think they have CGI. Stitch is a CGI thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean I understand why they didn't want to go
Speaker 2: with the Russian with the whole conflict with that. I
Speaker 2: understand it fine, but I don't know. I mean whatever
Speaker 2: I thought it was still cute. Cried a couple times
Speaker 2: in that movie. Did you not shd a single tear?
Speaker 1: No? I was all side.
Speaker 2: God, Why do you let your anger run throughout your body?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 3: If this sister the entire reason why she couldn't go
Speaker 3: and follow her dreams is because she is an adult.
Speaker 1: Her sister is a child.
Speaker 3: Legally, she has taken on the role of being this
Speaker 3: her sister's caregiver, right, and she's trying to study oceanography, which,
Speaker 3: for the record, I don't know if anybody knows this
Speaker 3: or not about Hawaii, but there is really reputable oceanography
Speaker 3: programs on this island in the middle of fucking Pacific Ocean.
Speaker 1: I know it's crazy, but they have them.
Speaker 3: But no, no, she has to go to California and
Speaker 3: leave her sister behind, which literally goes against the principal
Speaker 3: of Ohanna. She's remember a thing in the original movie
Speaker 3: that's a side step, that's.
Speaker 2: The one she got accepted into.
Speaker 3: So you're telling me a native Hawaiian would have issues
Speaker 3: getting accepted to the Hawaiian College.
Speaker 2: I would imagine that probably a lot of people want
Speaker 2: to go and do that in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I want to be a football player,
Speaker 2: but I only get you know, a letter from Ohio
Speaker 2: State and I live in Louisiana. You're trying to tell
Speaker 2: me that LSU is not going to hire a Louisiana boy. No,
Speaker 2: Like like Ohio State, I had a fucking opening, it.
Speaker 3: Would be very similar. That's that's a little different. Football
Speaker 3: is something that every college has. Oceanography is not something
Speaker 3: that every college has. But to your point, that'd be
Speaker 3: like saying somebody in Louisiana wants to get involved in
Speaker 3: the agriculture of sugarcane, right, that is a thing for them,
Speaker 3: it's a passion, and then they get accepted to Wisconsin.
Speaker 3: You No, they don't have an agriculture sugar situation there.
Speaker 1: They do in Louisiana.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess my point is is that I
Speaker 2: feel like every movie you just you're trying to find
Speaker 2: the thing that you can talk shit about.
Speaker 1: Instead, don't you just sit back, relax.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a cute children's movie. It's a fucking Disney movie.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to make sense. I mean, tell me
Speaker 2: a time where you saw Toys come alive and then
Speaker 2: go and complain about Toy story.
Speaker 3: Okay, to that point, new Toy Story versus the original
Speaker 3: two movies, Like, yeah, there's there's some points that's like
Speaker 3: at least the storyline stays the same, at least, like
Speaker 3: they play off of the former movies to like make
Speaker 3: the character arcs more in depth. And I could appreciate that, right,
Speaker 3: the revamps, I have an issue.
Speaker 2: You didn't have to gay for sure, you didn't have
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: That's my point, right, there's there's all these little things
Speaker 3: that they do to do it, not because it adds depth,
Speaker 3: not because it adds layers. Hell Buzz and Jesse had
Speaker 3: a whole thing on the movies, but now they're showing
Speaker 3: him a whole difference.
Speaker 1: You see my point? That is what I take issue with.
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's space, ass though maybe it's not
Speaker 2: gay if it's in space.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if aliens, Like we're back
Speaker 3: to the conversation of do aliens have cheeks to clap?
Speaker 1: Do those cheeks be clapping? I'm sure they'll know.
Speaker 3: But my point is yes, newer versions of movies versus
Speaker 3: older There's only a few exceptions where I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: that was a good That was a good remake.
Speaker 1: They just did. It's very rare.
Speaker 2: But the Beauty and the remake was really good.
Speaker 3: The Beauty and the Beast remake was excellent. I think
Speaker 3: that the Mulan remake, I was that's the borderline for
Speaker 3: me personally. Okay, they took away from like they don't
Speaker 3: have Mooshoe in it at all, but they were trying
Speaker 3: to show more of the historical angle for far Mulan
Speaker 3: versus the Disney you know, like that was that borderline
Speaker 3: where it's like, hmm, okay, it wasn't some big alphabet
Speaker 3: it was you know, it wasn't as entertaining.
Speaker 1: Lion King. Lion King was solid, both of them. King was solid.
Speaker 3: Yes, there were, Like I said, there's a few exceptions, man,
Speaker 3: the past few that they've done. Snow White wasn't it
Speaker 3: was a coat hanger. Abortion would have been a better
Speaker 3: time than that movie.
Speaker 1: I never even saw it.
Speaker 3: It don't you're not missing anything. It's got off and
Speaker 3: you know what was the worst. So then if this
Speaker 3: is gonna detract everybody, if you haven't noticed.
Speaker 1: We're taking a little side tangent here.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get back to the infectious bugs in the
Speaker 3: CIA here moment. All right, The main actress who played
Speaker 3: snow right goes on this big talking tour and just
Speaker 3: decides that now it's her time to shine and be
Speaker 3: the fucking the voice of her generation that no one
Speaker 3: asked for nor does anybody want. And she went on
Speaker 3: a ranch shitting on Israel and promoting Palestine as her
Speaker 3: co star. Is an idea of Soldier gal Gado. For
Speaker 3: anybody who doesn't know, wonder woman. She's Israeli and while
Speaker 3: she was a young adult, they are forced to serve
Speaker 3: in the IDF. So this young wanna be somebody quote
Speaker 3: unquote star is shitting on Israel. Meanwhile gal Gado, who
Speaker 3: is like a well known name in Hollywood, like she's
Speaker 3: made it, she's an a lister, is looking at her
Speaker 3: like bitch for I'm right here, like it's yes.
Speaker 1: Now on.
Speaker 2: I just want to tell all the actors like we
Speaker 2: do all of the sports players. And instead of saying
Speaker 2: shut up and dribble, just shut up and act. No
Speaker 2: wo he gives a fuck about your political affliction one
Speaker 2: way or another we know that you're in Hollywood, m
Speaker 2: we know that you're going to be extremely left leaning.
Speaker 2: Otherwise you're not going to have a job. So we
Speaker 2: know where your money and where your allegiance is too.
Speaker 2: We don't need you to come and say, oh my god,
Speaker 2: if you don't vote for this, it did it?
Speaker 1: Shut up, Just stops.
Speaker 3: You know, if you're if you're going to an electrician
Speaker 3: to ask him about his political affiliations, why would you
Speaker 3: hire him for that? That seems weird. If you're hiring
Speaker 3: an actor who is a person who pretends for a living,
Speaker 3: they play a role for a living, and they could
Speaker 3: be amazing at it. If you're going out of your
Speaker 3: way to ask them of their political ideations.
Speaker 1: Don't get mad whenever they're all over the place.
Speaker 3: But also, as a actor who is trying to advance
Speaker 3: your career, taking a stance of neutrality is probably the
Speaker 3: best bet. You're not going to piss off half of
Speaker 3: the people that watch your shows. If you just say, like,
Speaker 3: I'm an actor, I'm not I'm not educated enough to speak.
Speaker 1: On geopolitical things. I'ma be honest with you. I don't
Speaker 1: really know that that's a good move.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I mean, you don't hire a plumber to
Speaker 2: build your front porch.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying, Like, do what you do?
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm just yeah, and he to a microphone.
Speaker 1: That's what we do. And we're.
Speaker 2: We literally make a living talking shit into a microphone
Speaker 2: making fun of these fox by the way, which I'm
Speaker 2: I'm like, happier in a pig and shit that we
Speaker 2: get to do that.
Speaker 3: Oh wait a minute, I gotta I gotta run more.
Speaker 3: One more conspiracy by on a side tangent. Then we're
Speaker 3: gonna get back to the main point. Okay, have you
Speaker 3: heard the Lord far Quad conspiracy?
Speaker 1: I keep it short with a bitch, Lord fox Quad
Speaker 1: like okay, hold on, picture Lord Farquad in your head. Okay.
Speaker 3: And then also for what I'm about to say, think
Speaker 3: of the cartoon snow White, not this abomination of this one.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now you got the picture of Lord Farquad in your head, right,
Speaker 3: Think of the hairstyle, think of the puffy shoulders on
Speaker 3: his outfit.
Speaker 1: You with me right? Now?
Speaker 3: What are the chances that snow White fucked one of
Speaker 3: those dwarves and Lord Farquahd.
Speaker 1: Is her kid. That's how he got the talking magic mirror.
Speaker 2: Oh oh was number three my node b Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you had a felonious right, your boy with
Speaker 3: the number three and all that. But no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 3: just saying, is it possible is there greater than zero
Speaker 3: percent chance that in the history lore of Far far
Speaker 3: Away in fairy Tale World that snow White ended up
Speaker 3: getting some of that Dopey Dick and or Grumpy Dick
Speaker 3: were one of the two, and Lord farquad is who
Speaker 3: came out. I mean, it is possible because if you
Speaker 3: think about it, Shrek was hanging around all of the
Speaker 3: swamp creatures, right, Lord Farquaht had a real issue with
Speaker 3: the fairy Tale creatures. Could it be because he was
Speaker 3: half dwarf, half princess and his mom treated him like
Speaker 3: a bastard and so he had a.
Speaker 1: Real fucking vendetta against the shit.
Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, Uh yeah, I think you're onto one.
Speaker 1: I think you're onto one right there.
Speaker 2: And why I haven't seen the new snow White movie
Speaker 2: and I won't since you say that it's so atrocious
Speaker 2: and most everybody that has ever seen it has never
Speaker 2: said a single thing good about it.
Speaker 1: So have you heard one good review? No?
Speaker 2: No, even from even from kids. Even from kids, they're like, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's not really that good.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It makes me happy. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so back on to the main talking points of
Speaker 3: our conspiratorial talk today. Now, as they were talking about
Speaker 3: they had Fort Dietrich nineteen fifty four, right, and then
Speaker 3: they also.
Speaker 1: Did it and uh Avon Park, Florida.
Speaker 3: Now let's bring into Operation drop Kick, which is what
Speaker 3: we are talking about with those two drops. So they
Speaker 3: didn't just go to Georgia, they didn't just go to Utah.
Speaker 3: They decided to diversify a bit and see how does
Speaker 3: this work work beachside esque towns, How does it work
Speaker 3: in the woods?
Speaker 1: How does it work in the desert?
Speaker 3: Operation drop Kick kind of all encompasses this one red
Speaker 3: in brother.
Speaker 2: Operation Dropkick was conducted between April and November of nineteen
Speaker 2: fifty six by the US Army Chemical Corps to test
Speaker 2: the practicality of employing mosquitos to carry an ontomological warfare
Speaker 2: agent in different ways. The Chemical Corps released uninfected female
Speaker 2: mosquitos into a residential area of Savannah, Georgia, whose residents
Speaker 2: had agreed to participate in the project, and then estimated
Speaker 2: how many mosquitoes entered houses and bid people Within a day.
Speaker 2: Many reports of mosquito bites were received. In nineteen fifty eight,
Speaker 2: the Chemical Corps released one million mosquitos in Avon Park, Florida.
Speaker 2: These tests showed that mosquitoes could be spread by means
Speaker 2: of various devices. In the nineteen sixty four movie, Doctor
Speaker 2: Strangelove also refers to an Operation Dropkick. The TV series
Speaker 2: Archer refers to Operation Dropkick as the code name of
Speaker 2: a CIA mission to take over a country in Latin America.
Speaker 2: First of all, there's residents agreed to participate in the project.
Speaker 2: Who on earth would agree to having a million mosquitoes
Speaker 2: dropped in your fucking neighborhood. Get out of here with that.
Speaker 3: All lies, dude, including this report that's saying that the
Speaker 3: people were willingly participating. That is incorrect information. They never
Speaker 3: told any fucking body. If they did, it might have
Speaker 3: been maybe maybe like the governor or state representatives, that
Speaker 3: they were brought in on a top secret briefing with them,
Speaker 3: like listen, this is gonna go down. Nobody's gonna get hurt,
Speaker 3: just some mosquito bites. But whenever you get some reports
Speaker 3: like this, they come to us. You understand, it's yeah,
Speaker 3: no problem.
Speaker 2: It's almost reminiscent of like whenever you go to the
Speaker 2: toll booth, you know, you're voting for president or whoever
Speaker 2: you're voting for, and they're like, do you support not supporting?
Speaker 2: The supporting of the support? And we're like, wait, where
Speaker 2: did you go with that? What do you Can you
Speaker 2: just say it as a regular sentence. You got to
Speaker 2: do all these double negatives and all the quick, weird positives.
Speaker 2: It's they do that to mix your brain up.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 3: Look, there's known knowns, and then there's known unknowns, and
Speaker 3: then there's unknown knowns, and then there are unknown unknowns. Wait,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, can you repeat that one more time? There
Speaker 3: are things that we don't know that we know that
Speaker 3: we don't know, and we're trying to find out what
Speaker 3: al Qaeda doesn't know that we don't know. And it's like, Bro,
Speaker 3: you are currently on the mic addressing the nation, and
Speaker 3: that's what you're saying right now, speaking of circle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking in circles, just to confuse the average person.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna lie, dude. I did the
Speaker 2: bare minimum to get by in school. I could give
Speaker 2: a shit less about English class, which I thought was
Speaker 2: surprisingly difficult. I'm not gonna lie, like, why was why
Speaker 2: did the English class have to be so hard? It's like,
Speaker 2: I speak this shit, Why does it got to be
Speaker 2: so difficult?
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: We had to learn how to write a letter for
Speaker 3: the majority of eight years of the public school education.
Speaker 3: We had to relearn and relearn and relearn how to
Speaker 3: write a letter.
Speaker 1: Jonathan.
Speaker 3: You know how many letters I've written in my fucking life, dude,
Speaker 3: Probably aside from aside from boot camp, because the only
Speaker 3: kind of things we could get were handwritten mail to
Speaker 3: and from home. Aside from that, bro, I'm saying like
Speaker 3: it's it's sub ten, like real shit. Yeah, emails maybe,
Speaker 3: but even still, most emails are not formatted in letter
Speaker 3: form like you're Usually it's it's somewhere between a text
Speaker 3: and a letter, honestly.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, there's no return to send her address
Speaker 2: on there. You don't need to know anybody's address, I
Speaker 2: mean other than their email address, and it's yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like what where, where's the stamp placement?
Speaker 1: And you know all that shit.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could say that learning how to write an
Speaker 3: essay played in if you went to college and you know,
Speaker 3: you had to pass those classes. But even still, and
Speaker 3: maybe when you got to your dissertation, if you went
Speaker 3: for a doctorate or something, or you had to like
Speaker 3: defend your thesis or something, then maybe, but even then
Speaker 3: it looks more like a journal, like a professional journal,
Speaker 3: engineering journal, a medical journal.
Speaker 1: It's not anyway, well, dude.
Speaker 2: And then they change the rules on everything. You know,
Speaker 2: our whole life, we heard that ain't ain't a word.
Speaker 2: Now it is shit. Now it is a word. Now
Speaker 2: it's in the dictionary. So I just got told that
Speaker 2: probably ten thousand times from my youth to my adult era,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And it's like, why change it?
Speaker 2: Like we need constance, Like this whole school system, Like
Speaker 2: the math that they're doing is not math, and I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: it's bullshit, And anybody that believes in it can literally
Speaker 2: kick rocks down the road and go eat some paste,
Speaker 2: because there's no way that that's the correct way.
Speaker 1: To do math. Math.
Speaker 2: I understood math back in the day. I used to
Speaker 2: think that I was pretty damn good at math. Actually,
Speaker 2: I can do a lot of that math in my head.
Speaker 2: You look at these equations they're doing now, bro, it's like,
Speaker 2: why are you.
Speaker 1: Making it more difficult than it needs to be, dude?
Speaker 2: And then then they make you show your work. Get
Speaker 2: the fuck out of here. Not only do I have
Speaker 2: to come to the right answer, but I have to
Speaker 2: come to the right answer using your formula.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: I try getting my children to show me, Like even
Speaker 3: showing their work, they understand it because that's all they've
Speaker 3: been taught, right, dope. Cool, But like even showing their work,
Speaker 3: it makes no sense. There's like four extra steps that
Speaker 3: are not needed to get to a simple answer. And
Speaker 3: the way that they're trying to spend this, or at
Speaker 3: least the way I heard it, was that this is
Speaker 3: how Asian countries teach their children how to do math.
Speaker 3: And right now it might seem overly complicated, but when
Speaker 3: you get your children learning trigonometry, calculus, advanced level maths,
Speaker 3: this is all going to click in better ways for
Speaker 3: them because they've learned a whole different way with all
Speaker 3: these other steps to do.
Speaker 1: This, and you need that for the bigger formulas. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the deal.
Speaker 3: That is bullshit that has been emphatically proven incorrect. You're
Speaker 3: doing extra shit to just do extra shit. It's ally
Speaker 3: is you're reinventing the wheel just to say that.
Speaker 1: You did it.
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm not even gonna lie. The farthest I ever
Speaker 2: went in math was algebra two. Never did calculus, never
Speaker 2: did trigonometry, never did geometry.
Speaker 1: To geometry first of all, threw.
Speaker 2: Me through a loop. I get it that some people
Speaker 2: love it, some people hate it. I hated it personally,
Speaker 2: just like I hated chemistry.
Speaker 3: This proves that you and I are left brain right brain.
Speaker 3: Here we are two halves of one whole. Here because
Speaker 3: geometry you fucking hated. But I bet you killed it
Speaker 3: at algebra right crushed algebra me, the exact opposite algebra.
Speaker 3: That's the only class I've ever failed in my life
Speaker 3: was algebra two. Meanwhile, a geometry trig anything with shapes, bro,
Speaker 3: it's a fucking knockout of the park for me. That
Speaker 3: is a left brain right brain dominant telltale sign.
Speaker 2: I bet you're onto something there, And as I've looked
Speaker 2: into it, it is true. I mean, is geometry more left brain?
Speaker 1: I could not tell you. I think that would have to.
Speaker 2: Be probably more right brain now that I think about it.
Speaker 2: So are you more right brain than me?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I do know that if it's a
Speaker 3: it is a left brain right brain dominant thing. If
Speaker 3: you're great at geometry, you're probably gonna suck at algebra
Speaker 3: and vice versa, depending on which side you're dominant. Unless
Speaker 3: you're from Southeast Asia, then you're just gonna kill it
Speaker 3: with anything involving numbers.
Speaker 1: That's that's just the way that works.
Speaker 2: By the way, we are speaking on left brain and
Speaker 2: right brain. I just wanted to say that Meta Mysteries
Speaker 2: we have done our a bit of a rebranding, if
Speaker 2: you will. We have changed the name of the podcast.
Speaker 2: We are no longer yeah, yeah, we are no longer
Speaker 2: Meta Mysteries. We are now known as the Meta Mystics,
Speaker 2: So Metistics, yeah, dude, yeah. And I just feel like
Speaker 2: we've kind of evolved to that part. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that I'm an I'm an all knowing shamanistic mystic or
Speaker 2: anything like that. I'm just saying that that's kind of
Speaker 2: like where we're geared to, uh, where we're geared to go,
Speaker 2: I think. And so it was a natural evolution of
Speaker 2: the show and I love it, dude.
Speaker 1: We got a whole new logo and I was gonna.
Speaker 3: Say y'all getting rid of the meta mystery machine? Is
Speaker 3: Marv still in the equation?
Speaker 1: Where are we at? Marv's not in it anymore. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: he had to dip out, Yeah, what the fuck you
Speaker 1: got rid of your tulpa? Uh, he's with us in
Speaker 1: our hearts.
Speaker 2: I still wear the necklace, you know, but yeah, we
Speaker 2: we had to change it up and to be ho, honest,
Speaker 2: I love it. It's uh, it's something that's that we're
Speaker 2: very fond of. Oh, actually, you know what, I'll show
Speaker 2: you the picture of it real quick. Do you want
Speaker 2: to stop sharing the screen?
Speaker 1: I have it. Let's see. I'm gonna go right here
Speaker 1: and share. Here we go.
Speaker 2: This is the new logo bro Metamistics. Baby, that's sick.
Speaker 1: I just love it, dude.
Speaker 2: We're both just sitting there like a couple of mystics
Speaker 2: or sages or fucking gurus or whatever and just tapped
Speaker 2: into the zone.
Speaker 1: It's awesome.
Speaker 3: Look how you're trying to be all serious and Sean's
Speaker 3: just got that grin like, yeah, dude.
Speaker 2: He's blissed out. He's blissed out. I'm focusing on levitating
Speaker 2: this crystal right now, dude.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, he's just got his staff and he's just like, yep,
Speaker 3: he's big, chilling dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah dude.
Speaker 2: So I just want to throw that out there in
Speaker 2: case anybody was wondering, why are you seeing metamistics pop
Speaker 2: up on the show now and not of mysteries. That
Speaker 2: would be why it's the natural evolution of the show,
Speaker 2: we believe.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, man, good shit, good shit. Everybody go check
Speaker 1: out menimistics. All right. Now back to the point.
Speaker 3: So we talked about Operation Dropkick nineteen fifty eight, and
Speaker 3: like it was just said, they brought it up on
Speaker 3: a movie and Archer.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Archer, you should. It's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 3: But they even talk about how this Operation Dropkick was
Speaker 3: a code name for a CIA mission to take over
Speaker 3: a country in Latin America that is close but not
Speaker 3: exactly accurate. As a matter of fact, Operation Dropkick led
Speaker 3: into something else that took place as far as Cuba
Speaker 3: is concerned.
Speaker 1: So here we go.
Speaker 3: The nineteen sixties, the CIA dropped flies infected with cholera
Speaker 3: into Cuban villages and considered using beetles to destroy their
Speaker 3: sugar plantations and spread an African swine virus, leading to
Speaker 3: the deaths of five hundred thousand pigs on the Cuban island.
Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
Speaker 3: This African swine disease is not native to Cuba. There
Speaker 3: was almost there was like a point zero one percent
Speaker 3: chance that it could have naturally made its way there.
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, all of these pigs in Cuba
Speaker 3: had to be slaughtered and they had to be burned
Speaker 3: because they have some new strain of an African virus.
Speaker 3: Where did that come from, you might ask, Well, interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: the CIA owned up to it years later. Here is
Speaker 3: a quick little article that discusses it right here. This
Speaker 3: is a story of zero.
Speaker 1: Do I know? You said this is and I went,
Speaker 1: this is?
Speaker 3: This is a this is a CIA admits Cuban virus
Speaker 3: data aired.
Speaker 1: So let's read it into this. The CIA has admitted
Speaker 1: that information.
Speaker 2: It's applied the Senate Intelligence Committee concerning a nineteen seventy
Speaker 2: one outbreak of African swine fever in Cuba was wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. You think it was wrong, bud.
Speaker 2: The CIA was sent a formal inquiry last month by
Speaker 2: the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence asking for a reply
Speaker 2: to a Newsday report that a virus associated with the
Speaker 2: animal disease was introduced into Cuba in nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 2: with at least what does that say tacit approval of
Speaker 2: the CIA. The report quoted by members of the US
Speaker 2: intelligence community who participated in the operation, and said the
Speaker 2: deliberate introduction of the virus apparently set off an epidemic
Speaker 2: that forced the Cubans to slaughter five hundred thousand pigs.
Speaker 2: To in Denying any involvement in the episode, the CIA
Speaker 2: told the Intelligence Committee that the disease had been carried
Speaker 2: to Cuba through dried, uncured meat imported from Europe. It
Speaker 2: went on to say that the US Department of Agriculture
Speaker 2: conducted a massive swine fever inoculation program on animals in
Speaker 2: the Southeastern States to prevent the spread of the disease.
Speaker 3: Yesterday they admitted that they were wrong, Like the entirety
Speaker 3: of that dried uncured meats from Europe obviously, bro what, No,
Speaker 3: that's not how that spreads. First of all. Second of all, well,
Speaker 3: you know, we had all the farmers in the southeast,
Speaker 3: the Bible Belt, all of them gave their pigs this
Speaker 3: inoculation to stop it from spreading. Incorrect, There was no
Speaker 3: chance of it spreading from Cuba to here, especially when
Speaker 3: we had all those crazy embargoes on Cuba because of
Speaker 3: the Cold War. That's why you couldn't get Cuban cigars
Speaker 3: until really recently. So yeah, all of this is right
Speaker 3: off the rip a lie.
Speaker 2: Newsday disclosed January fifteenth that according to internationally recognized experts
Speaker 2: in American and in African swine, fevers such as inoculations
Speaker 2: do not exist. Agriculture Department officials have since noted that
Speaker 2: what does that say there that oh there, Okay, I
Speaker 2: should have put that one together.
Speaker 1: It looks like you though, but it says there. Sorry, everybody,
Speaker 1: we're reading again.
Speaker 3: This is a printout of a copy of a newspaper clipping,
Speaker 3: so it is not the uh, it's not the cleanest type.
Speaker 1: But anyway, it.
Speaker 2: Says that there have never been an African swine fever
Speaker 2: inoculation program, even on an experimental basis in the Western Hemisphere.
Speaker 2: After the Newsday report, the Intelligence Committee contacted the CIA again,
Speaker 2: and the panel released yesterday a letter dated Tuesday in
Speaker 2: which the CIA said that a cheek with the agricultural
Speaker 2: or a check with the damn A check with the
Speaker 2: agricultural Department into indicates that there was no swine inoculation program.
Speaker 2: The CIA also acknowledged in in a letter that its
Speaker 2: explanation was wrong about how the virus, which never before
Speaker 2: had surfaced in the Western Hemisphere, broke out in Cuba.
Speaker 2: The letter from the agency's Legislative Council noted that the
Speaker 2: strain of the virus found in Europe does not produce
Speaker 2: such high mortality rates as were found in Cuba, suggesting
Speaker 2: that the virus may have come from Africa, but the
Speaker 2: CIA continued to deny any involvement in the outbreak. The
Speaker 2: discrepancies in CIA versions of the incident led the Intelligence
Speaker 2: the Intelligence Committee to reopen its investigation of the affair.
Speaker 2: According to one committee source, we're looking at this with
Speaker 2: a view to deciding the desirability of holding hearings, The
Speaker 2: source said. Agriculture Department officials who launched a major information
Speaker 2: who launched a major information and screening program in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy one after they learned about the outbreak in Cuba,
Speaker 2: so the disease easily could have been transmitted to the
Speaker 2: United States. It's a particularly devastating type of disease. We
Speaker 2: don't want it anywhere near here. Spokesman Sidney Moore said,
Speaker 2: it's bad, bad news. It can spread very rapidly. It
Speaker 2: can spread widely before it is detected. There is a
Speaker 2: big flow of pigs from the southeast up to the midwest.
Speaker 2: It could have caused havoc. I don't believe anyone would
Speaker 2: have done it. It would certainly have been a very
Speaker 2: irresponsible thing on the part of anybody to introduce the
Speaker 2: disease into Cuba.
Speaker 1: CIA officials added yesterday.
Speaker 2: That they were the first to inform the Agricultural Department
Speaker 2: about the nineteen seventy two Cuban outbreak. William Hess, the
Speaker 2: microbiologist in what does that say in Something in charge
Speaker 2: of the African swine Fever research program at Plum Island
Speaker 2: Animal Disease Laboratory, said the disease easily could have entered
Speaker 2: the country. People walking in farmlands and getting the experiment
Speaker 2: or the excrement from pigs on their shoes could transmit
Speaker 2: it any place, he said. He said a US outbreak
Speaker 2: by the time it was definitely diagnosed, would have destroyed
Speaker 2: about ten percent of the country's pig country's pigs at
Speaker 2: the cost of about one billion dollars. It could run
Speaker 2: that high very easily, he said.
Speaker 3: So couple little red flags on the statement here. William
Speaker 3: Hess is a person that came over here from Project
Speaker 3: paper Clip. He is formerly a Nazi scientist, so just
Speaker 3: right off the rip. Secondly, he was he was one
Speaker 3: of Hitler's like right hand men. He was indeed Villahelm
Speaker 3: hell Hess rather right next Plumb Island Animal Disease Laboratory.
Speaker 3: Everybody put a pin in that one because that's also
Speaker 3: going to come into play here in a little bit.
Speaker 3: But yes, so they were talking about a thing that
Speaker 3: happened in seventy one. In seventy seven, the CI had
Speaker 3: to come forward and say we lied about some stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, after denying in for years, they denied it, and
Speaker 2: they only decide to accept that they were the ones
Speaker 2: that actually did it after like everybody found out that
Speaker 2: there's no other way that this could have happened.
Speaker 1: Well, we inoculated the southeast real quick homeboy.
Speaker 3: Every expert says they've never had an inoculation program on
Speaker 3: this hemisphere for that disease in history. There's only one
Speaker 3: lad that might be dealing with that, and that's in Africa. Well, uh,
Speaker 3: it could have come over easily from someone walking in.
Speaker 1: The fields again, big dog, how did that get here?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: That's that doesn't that's not gonna make its way across here. So, like,
Speaker 3: even looked at this report too. If a pig in
Speaker 3: Africa was infected with this swine virus, right, if you
Speaker 3: were to put them on a boat, nobody's flying a
Speaker 3: pig to Cuba, just so we're clear, it.
Speaker 1: Would have made its way via boat.
Speaker 3: The pig would have died before it even made it
Speaker 3: halfway across the Atlantic Ocean. Like, so just so we're
Speaker 3: all clear, there was a zero out of zero chance
Speaker 3: that this could have happened.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm giving that point zero one percent.
Speaker 3: Just because you know, while shit has happened before, and
Speaker 3: I get that, not to the tune of half a
Speaker 3: million pigs having to be slaughtered, which inevitably hurt the
Speaker 3: Cuban population because they were needing food because they were
Speaker 3: communists at that time, which let's be real, that's the
Speaker 3: that's one way to bring communism to a grinding halt.
Speaker 1: They run out of money and they run out of food.
Speaker 1: It's happened everywhere, but anyway, almost every actually probably every time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's typically how this goes. Then you have these
Speaker 1: people that are like.
Speaker 3: Well, socialism is so much better because and it's like,
Speaker 3: but it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not. It's the same thing with a rebranding.
Speaker 3: And there's a slight variation as far as like the
Speaker 3: the government doesn't own everything. You own a few things
Speaker 3: with the government's permission. So, I all, it is slavery
Speaker 3: with extra steps.
Speaker 1: It's the Fourth Reich. That's really what it is. Essentially.
Speaker 3: So now we're gonna bring up Operation Mongoose. Oh wait,
Speaker 3: before I do that, I forgot to me also Operation
Speaker 3: drop Kick. Remember we talked about them dropping those mosquitoes
Speaker 3: in Avon Park, Florida.
Speaker 1: Yep, I forgot to mention this little thing.
Speaker 3: They powder coated these mosquitoes with fluorescent indicators to where
Speaker 3: whenever they collected them later, they would know which mosquitoes
Speaker 3: were from their test lab and which ones weren't. And
Speaker 3: that's how they were able to more accurately detect which
Speaker 3: ones did make it into homes, which ones did bite people,
Speaker 3: which ones did reproduce, and.
Speaker 1: All of these things.
Speaker 3: So it's they had identifying markers to tell oh, that's
Speaker 3: not just a natural occurrence of these mosquitoes.
Speaker 1: No, those are our bitches. They did that work. But anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: that's it's it's I don't know. It's kind of mind boggling.
Speaker 2: How would they collect the mosquitoes like a giant net,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Net collecting. What's going on? How are they collecting these
Speaker 1: fucking things?
Speaker 3: Dry ice, dry ice, carbon dioxide attracts mosquitoes.
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Oh we did read that earlier, but I'd actually never
Speaker 2: heard of dry ice being used for mosquitoes.
Speaker 3: So dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide. Just everybody's clear.
Speaker 3: It's not actually like ice like h two. Oh, it's
Speaker 3: just super super condensed carbon dioxide. Whenever that melts and
Speaker 3: it gives off that fog. Right, all that is is
Speaker 3: mystified for lack of better words, CO two. So whenever
Speaker 3: mosquitos are trying, they love that shit. They breathe it
Speaker 3: so they'll be attracted to it. So just everyone's clear,
Speaker 3: especially as Halloween is around the corner. If you are
Speaker 3: living in a area of the South where the mosquito
Speaker 3: population doesn't die off until like December, and you're wanting
Speaker 3: to do some like spooky foggy things outside your home,
Speaker 3: get a fog machine, not dry ice. I understand it's
Speaker 3: more expensive, but trust me, you don't want to deal
Speaker 3: with the mosquito problem you're gonna have that night because
Speaker 3: you're attracting every fucking mosquito in your neighborhood with that
Speaker 3: cauldron of dry ice shit.
Speaker 1: Just so everybody's cleaned. Yeah, and you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people be doing that too.
Speaker 3: I have done it, and I have been there and
Speaker 3: done that for sure, So anyway, regrets it.
Speaker 1: A little bit. Anyway.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so next we're going into Operation Mongoose. As we
Speaker 3: were talking about the the swine epidemic that took place,
Speaker 3: they were trying to use beetles to kill the sugar population.
Speaker 1: They were doing all of these things.
Speaker 3: Operation Mongoose makes its way into the conversation because this
Speaker 3: was this was a multi pronged attack. Okay, they were
Speaker 3: just trying to do whatever they could to take out
Speaker 3: Castro and bring about democracy into Cuba. Operation Mongoose was
Speaker 3: kind of the way it was going to go down.
Speaker 1: Let's read in.
Speaker 2: The Cuban Project, also known as Operation Mongoose, was an
Speaker 2: extensive campaign of terroristic attacks against civilians and covert operations
Speaker 2: carried out by the US Central Intelligence Agency in Cuba.
Speaker 2: It was officially authorized on November thirtieth, nineteen sixty one,
Speaker 2: by JFK. The name Operation Mongoose was agreed at a
Speaker 2: White House meeting on November fourth, nineteen sixty one.
Speaker 1: The operation, I'm saying, the CIA is way better at
Speaker 1: naming shit.
Speaker 3: We got big Itch, big Buzz, then we got mongoose.
Speaker 3: That's a better name for a secret operation.
Speaker 1: Dude. And who didn't want to ride a mongoose? Grown
Speaker 1: up dude. Everybody had a mongoose bike, you know.
Speaker 3: That was that was the shit. Until I started racing BMX,
Speaker 3: the mongoose was the way. But then once you start
Speaker 3: racing them on tracks and shit, dude, those bikes are heavy.
Speaker 3: Oh really anyway, Yeah, Like the frames are so much
Speaker 3: thicker and shit. So I had to give me like
Speaker 3: a light Uh what was called a red line. There's
Speaker 3: a red line bike that I had that was like
Speaker 3: built for racing. Getting off topic, shout out to the
Speaker 3: Big Grimbowski. He was doing that shitty post videos all
Speaker 3: the time. I'm like, damn, you were a stud on
Speaker 3: that thing.
Speaker 1: Fuck. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it says the operation was run out of JM Wave,
Speaker 2: a major secret United States covert operations and intelligence gathering
Speaker 2: station on the campus of the University of Miami. The
Speaker 2: operation was led by United States Air Force General Edward
Speaker 2: Lansdale on the military side and William King Harvey at
Speaker 2: the CIA, and went into effect after the failed Bay
Speaker 2: of Pigs invasion. Operation Mongoose was a secret program against
Speaker 2: Cuba that aimed to remove the Cuban government from power
Speaker 2: and to force the Cuban government to introduce intrusive civil
Speaker 2: measures and divert precious resources to protected citizens from the attacks.
Speaker 2: The removal of the Castro government was a prime focus
Speaker 2: on the Kennedy administration. The terrorist activities carried out by agents, armed,
Speaker 2: organized and funded by the CIA were further source of
Speaker 2: tension between the US and Cuban governments. They were a
Speaker 2: major factor contributing to the Soviet decision to place missiles
Speaker 2: in Cuba, leading to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Speaker 3: Absolutely so, Operation Mongoose is a very big umbrella term,
Speaker 3: but the insect biological weapons that were used were all
Speaker 3: in collaboration on the overarching Operation Mongoose. With me, now
Speaker 3: here's the deal, bro Even if the bugs weren't effective,
Speaker 3: which they were, they were for sure, at least in
Speaker 3: a couple of reguards. They absolutely gave a spiking yellow fever.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about that. They absolutely killed multiple, multiple pigs,
Speaker 3: half a million pigs. The beetle thing for the sugar
Speaker 3: cane fields that didn't go over as planned, But at
Speaker 3: the same time, they absolutely did take place, and they
Speaker 3: absolutely did add to the overarching theme of Operation Mongoose.
Speaker 3: But like I said, even if the bugs weren't effective,
Speaker 3: they often saw that the rumors and threats spreading did
Speaker 3: a number on the Cuban civilians and military. Right, your
Speaker 3: average Cuban military member might be a lot less inclined
Speaker 3: to go to work if he thinks that if he
Speaker 3: steps outside of his house, he's gonna get bit with
Speaker 3: some new strain of virus from a mosquito that's gonna
Speaker 3: make him go into zombie mode or some shit like that. Right,
Speaker 3: And you could you could really give a spirit of
Speaker 3: fear over the entire country through propaganda, and then especially
Speaker 3: if it's something like sugar cane or pigs or something
Speaker 3: like that, it's only helping to stir the rumor mill
Speaker 3: even further. And if any good cult member out there
Speaker 3: thinks that this couldn't happen today. Let's review West Nile.
Speaker 3: A mosquito virus that was so scary, wasn't it, Or
Speaker 3: the the swine flew it was so scary, right, Or
Speaker 3: or mad cow disease that was so bad, wasn't it.
Speaker 3: Because I gotta tell you, of all three of those things,
Speaker 3: I know one person that's contracted West Nile and they're fine,
Speaker 3: and one person that contracted swine flu and they would
Speaker 3: have been fine if they also didn't suffer from eight
Speaker 3: different comorbidities before they got sick.
Speaker 2: That sounds about right. Yeah, most of them were not
Speaker 2: necessarily crazy threatening. But if you were listening to the news,
Speaker 2: anytime those bad boys were rolled out, you thought it
Speaker 2: was the end of the world.
Speaker 3: This is the new plague, this is the new apocalypse.
Speaker 3: It's gonna take us all out. It's a the blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, weaponized paranoia. That's what it always has
Speaker 3: come down to. So they were using that full force
Speaker 3: during Operation Mongoose. And by the way, of course, COVID
Speaker 3: wasn't even that crazy.
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know, it really wasn't, but the panic
Speaker 1: around it was crazy. They politicize what could have been
Speaker 1: seen as think about this, everybody real shit.
Speaker 3: And I know for a fact, I personally know first
Speaker 3: responders that there was a motorcyclist who hit a guardrail
Speaker 3: and was decapitated that was listed as a COVID related death.
Speaker 3: That is not a joke, That is not spinning the
Speaker 3: rumor mill. That is a certified fact.
Speaker 2: If you're an honest government and you're trying to warn
Speaker 2: people about a sickness, you don't need to fudge the numbers.
Speaker 2: And that's what they were doing. Every single time somebody
Speaker 2: died in a hospital, didn't matter if they were there
Speaker 2: for COVID or if they were there for whatever you
Speaker 2: go there for. Could have died in an emergency room,
Speaker 2: as you just stated with the motorcyclists, right, every single
Speaker 2: time a person died, which I don't know if you know,
Speaker 2: this happens pretty often. You know, people die every day,
Speaker 2: every single time a person died COVID. So whenever you
Speaker 2: go to CNN back in those times, and you had
Speaker 2: the death count at the top right of the screen
Speaker 2: and they were saying, oh my god, millions are dying
Speaker 2: and more millions more every day, It's like, no, millions
Speaker 2: of people were dying.
Speaker 1: They just weren't dying from COVID necessarily, they weren't.
Speaker 3: Right, there were some, Yes, absolutely, And I will say
Speaker 3: this too. The flu does kill people every year. They're
Speaker 3: typically very small infant children or very old senior citizens,
Speaker 3: both of which do not they have compromise immune systems
Speaker 3: or a week in immune system state, or whatever the
Speaker 3: case is.
Speaker 2: And that's usually called dying of natural causes.
Speaker 3: Right now, when everybody think about this real shit, take
Speaker 3: away all political stigma, take away the mainstream media. Take
Speaker 3: away all of the things that you were told, the masks,
Speaker 3: the six feet, all of that. Just for two seconds,
Speaker 3: remove yourself from it and think back. You're watching it
Speaker 3: as a movie, not that you were living in Just
Speaker 3: for a second, okay, now, pretend that instead of COVID nineteen,
Speaker 3: the mainstream media was going on saying that we were
Speaker 3: having a really serious flu season this year, one for
Speaker 3: the record books, but it was the flu, and told
Speaker 3: everybody to wash your hands right and be more safe,
Speaker 3: but continue living your life. There's no need to spread
Speaker 3: fear at this time. Everything is under control. Go get
Speaker 3: your flu shots and do things as you would normally
Speaker 3: do now realistically, and you don't need to answer this
Speaker 3: out loud.
Speaker 1: This is something within yourself, okay, within.
Speaker 3: Your personal heart of hearts, Okay, tell me that the
Speaker 3: world would not have been a much better place and
Speaker 3: the death number would have been the death number, right,
Speaker 3: And the jabs we know are ineffective. Them, the boosters,
Speaker 3: all of them, The masks did nothing. The six feet
Speaker 3: apart did nothing. All it did was bring the entire
Speaker 3: world's economy to a screeching halt, and somehow more billionaires
Speaker 3: are created than ever before in history. But let's talk
Speaker 3: for another day. My point is, would the world be
Speaker 3: a better place? And it's not that they were lying
Speaker 3: to us. They would have actually been telling us the truth, right,
Speaker 3: Because if you look at these symptoms of COVID and
Speaker 3: the symptoms of the flu, the only difference is the
Speaker 3: loss of tastes and smell.
Speaker 1: Other than that, it's literally the.
Speaker 2: Flu, and not everybody lost their taste and smell. It
Speaker 2: was actually a small percentage of people.
Speaker 3: I know people that lost their sense of taste and
Speaker 3: smell from the vaccine, not even from COVID.
Speaker 1: Oh but neither here point.
Speaker 3: Is at right. It totally does. But my point is
Speaker 3: that was weaponized paranoia, and it wasn't at the American people,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't at the Chinese people. It was at
Speaker 3: the entire world. Yeah, yes, and tactic that they've been
Speaker 3: using for decades. It was to bring about a new system.
Speaker 3: And you are living in a new day and age.
Speaker 3: You know, some people are saying, you know, the new uh,
Speaker 3: the new BC. You know we talked about before Christ.
Speaker 3: It's just before COVID.
Speaker 2: No, you know, like everybody what we refer to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty or twenty nineteen as BC.
Speaker 1: No do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, the second BC? You mean the second century BC? No, No,
Speaker 3: I mean BC number two.
Speaker 1: Dog. It was a wild time. You know.
Speaker 3: There was this gorilla named Harambe. He died and next
Speaker 3: thing you know, that brought upon the age of the
Speaker 3: AC you mean ad No, I mean after COVID Dog, Keep.
Speaker 1: Up, it's yeah, that's what's happening. Now. Dick's out, Dix
Speaker 1: out for Harambe, the real ones. No. All right, so
Speaker 1: now let's get back on topic here.
Speaker 3: This all took place right this idea, remember we're talking
Speaker 3: about they were brainstorming these ideas of using insects in
Speaker 3: this type of weaponized way.
Speaker 1: Nineteen fifties.
Speaker 3: Why what happened in the early nineteen fifties in America
Speaker 3: to where this even became a thought process. Now again,
Speaker 3: we've talked about this. Flicking bugs at people you don't
Speaker 3: like is nothing new. Right Again, in the medieval times,
Speaker 3: this beehives. The Golden Horde did it with bodies. Now again,
Speaker 3: that wasn't to spread the Black Death across all of Europe.
Speaker 3: That was at the siege of Kafa in Crimea. But
Speaker 3: Crimea was a major port. It still is to this day.
Speaker 3: But it was a major port during that time too,
Speaker 3: and that's what led to the spread across all of Europe. Right.
Speaker 3: I don't think that was necessarily their intent, but that
Speaker 3: is the ripple effect of what took place. So this
Speaker 3: has been a thing for forever. And keep in mind
Speaker 3: World War One, they're using chlorine gas and mustard gas
Speaker 3: and these types of horrible things at each other for
Speaker 3: trench warfare. We were on this whole other kick about
Speaker 3: industrialized chemicals being used.
Speaker 1: World War Two.
Speaker 3: We couldn't use the chemical agents anymore. We're using fucking
Speaker 3: flamethrowers and shit and nuclear bombs. It seems like the
Speaker 3: technology was going up, up, up, up. Why in the
Speaker 3: early nineteen fifties with these groups three letter agencies, military
Speaker 3: industrial complex, all of them start reverting back and thinking, bro,
Speaker 3: maybe we're overthinking this.
Speaker 1: What about insect? Jonathan? Can you think of anything.
Speaker 3: That happened in the late forties early fifties that they
Speaker 3: have tied.
Speaker 1: Into this aliens?
Speaker 3: Okay, good guests, good guess I'm like where heads at?
Speaker 3: But for this one, let's revert back to what we
Speaker 3: talked about here with our boyle William Hess right. Operation
Speaker 3: paper Clip was not just a German experiment. Have you
Speaker 3: ever heard of Unit seven thirty one out of Japan.
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one was a group that did, in
Speaker 3: my personal opinion, far worse experiments to their human prisoners
Speaker 3: than Germany did.
Speaker 1: Okay, Unit seven thirty one.
Speaker 3: They are the reason why we know that a human
Speaker 3: being is made out of seventy percent water.
Speaker 1: Do you know how they found that out? I'm sure
Speaker 1: by torturous ways.
Speaker 3: They took a dude and wighed him and then put
Speaker 3: him in a convection of him until like he was
Speaker 3: nothing but a husk, and then weighe him. That is
Speaker 3: how we know that human beings are only seventy or
Speaker 3: made out of mostly seventy percent water.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, that was more of.
Speaker 3: The That was a tame experiment that this group did.
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one had a massive cover up and
Speaker 3: most people have never heard of them because the Holocaust
Speaker 3: got all of the attention. Operation paper Clip of the
Speaker 3: East was where we grabbed a bunch of Japanese scientists
Speaker 3: from Imperial Japan, brought them in under the radar, and
Speaker 3: they continued these things just for the good cult members
Speaker 3: at home. Let's read a little bit about who or
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one is.
Speaker 2: During the occupation of Japan after World War Two, the
Speaker 2: US had an important decision to make. Should they hold
Speaker 2: those responsible for atrocities during the war accountable or should
Speaker 2: they take the information to advance the national interest. The
Speaker 2: researchers who worked at Unit seven thirty one, the bio
Speaker 2: Logical and Chemical Warfare Research and Development Unit, were given
Speaker 2: immunity in exchange for their research data. Unit seven thirty
Speaker 2: one included factories filled with humans. Bro just that that's
Speaker 2: not even a whole sentence, that's just a portion of
Speaker 2: a sentence. Units seven thirty one included factories filled with humans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: This wasn't When you think of a POW camp, I
Speaker 3: know a lot of people just because of the the
Speaker 3: pop culture zeitgeist, right, you might think of something like
Speaker 3: you've seen a Vietnam movie, right, some bamboo cages and
Speaker 3: you're in the jungle and things like that.
Speaker 1: Or you may think.
Speaker 3: Of something of a Holocaust type of situation where there's
Speaker 3: just big dormitories and big barbed wire and towers with
Speaker 3: spotlights and all these things. Yes, those things are true,
Speaker 3: but please understand that those are not the only two
Speaker 3: options as far as a POW encampment goes. And not
Speaker 3: all of these prisoners were military combatants. A lot of
Speaker 3: them were Chinese civilians. I should mention that now, but
Speaker 3: let's continue here. They had factory filled.
Speaker 2: With humans tested with various diseases, as well as field
Speaker 2: tests on civilians of the Soviet Union and China. Emperor
Speaker 2: Japan had aspirations to develop operative tools of biological warfare,
Speaker 2: one that was prohibited after World War One using a
Speaker 2: live human captives. The Japanese scientists of the medical profession
Speaker 2: gathered data on the progression of the diseases until the
Speaker 2: quote unquote human guinea pigs collapsed. Most of these scientists
Speaker 2: lived peacefully after World War Two, with a few of
Speaker 2: them having to go through the how do you say
Speaker 2: that word Kabrovski er kab Kabrof's trial, which was deemed
Speaker 2: by the West as Communist propaganda, most of the.
Speaker 1: Whole communist propaganda.
Speaker 3: Keep this in mind, now, the Soviet Union started off
Speaker 3: on the Nazi side, but then they became an allied nation,
Speaker 3: so Imperial Japan was attacking Soviet Union as well, Okay,
Speaker 3: and China and all these things. But this trial that
Speaker 3: took place because the Soviet Union wanted justice for it.
Speaker 1: The fuck happened to.
Speaker 3: Their people, and the United States covered all that up
Speaker 3: and said that was just communist propaganda.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Oh, it gets worse.
Speaker 2: So most of the horrors on Unit seven thirty one
Speaker 2: had been hearsays and rumors until recently with the passing
Speaker 2: of the Freedom of Information Act.
Speaker 1: The book.
Speaker 2: This book is based on documents found in the US
Speaker 2: National Archives and Records Administration, Russian archival documents, and translations
Speaker 2: of the kabbo Roth's trial to paint a complete picture
Speaker 2: of the cover up of the atrocious act of Unit
Speaker 2: seven thirty one, readers could expect to question themselves with
Speaker 2: this evidence, should war crimes be covered up in the
Speaker 2: name of national interest?
Speaker 3: So we're not going to read a ton of this,
Speaker 3: but we should at least mention this.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one on paper was actually listed as
Speaker 3: a lumberman.
Speaker 1: Okay. They called their human.
Speaker 3: Test subjects logs as a way to dehumanize them, and
Speaker 3: they would even joke with each other, oh, how many
Speaker 3: logs did you split today? Oh? My god, as a
Speaker 3: way of talking about how many how many prisoners did
Speaker 3: you kill today? Because that was the point. It wasn't
Speaker 3: done in the name of making the human race better.
Speaker 3: It was done as a way of torturous death, to
Speaker 3: basically see how much pain a human could endure before
Speaker 3: it died.
Speaker 1: Now, we've talked about this too. The Nazis did very
Speaker 1: similar things, right.
Speaker 3: They took Jewish people and they put them in their
Speaker 3: best cold weather gear, and then they would dunk them
Speaker 3: in frozen water to see how long it would take
Speaker 3: for them to freeze to death. That's how they improved
Speaker 3: warm weather gear. Right during Operation Paperclip, we got all
Speaker 3: of that data and we used it for ourselves to
Speaker 3: make better cold weather Gear. Hi to North Faced Jackets,
Speaker 3: love your product, but your research is fucked Beside the point,
Speaker 3: Unit seven thirty one did very very similar things when
Speaker 3: it came to pain thresholds, starvation thresholds, dehydration thresholds, all.
Speaker 1: These things, just to see the limit of it would go.
Speaker 3: They would never give the person medical treatment afterwards or
Speaker 3: try to make them better. They had a whole group
Speaker 3: of guinea pigs that they would just grab another one
Speaker 3: out the stack. Child, How does a ten year old
Speaker 3: fair as compared to a thirty five year old? How
Speaker 3: does a mother fair as compared to her child? And
Speaker 3: all it was it was just the worst of what
Speaker 3: your brain can possibly make up.
Speaker 1: And then more. Yeah, that sounds like.
Speaker 2: Communist ideology if you really think about it, because if
Speaker 2: you're saying that there are there's a group of people
Speaker 2: that we need to look at as logs going through
Speaker 2: a lumber mill in order to gather very important information.
Speaker 1: Even if it's imagine.
Speaker 2: Those people that are in there and they're like, look,
Speaker 2: we really need to put you through this atrocious testing.
Speaker 1: It's going to suck really bad and you're actually.
Speaker 2: Gonna die, But one day we're gonna make awesome North
Speaker 2: faced jackets, Like one day, that's do you know how
Speaker 2: many people in Chicago you're gonna help with that?
Speaker 1: Like imagine that like opportunity.
Speaker 2: You're like, I don't care about Chicago or the people
Speaker 2: in it, or about how how well that they can
Speaker 2: withstand the cold in the wind.
Speaker 1: It's it's beyond upsetting. Brother.
Speaker 3: Now this picture on screen right now, this is the
Speaker 3: building for Unit seven thirty one. Does this look like
Speaker 3: your standard pow camp that you've seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of looks like fucking school. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna just say, like maybe a government building
Speaker 2: or a school or something.
Speaker 3: Hospital maybe, But it doesn't look like a lumber mill.
Speaker 3: It certainly doesn't look like any of the Nazi camps
Speaker 3: that you've ever seen pictures of, or the Vietnam Pow
Speaker 3: camps by any means. So from the outside, it would
Speaker 3: just look like any old government building. Nothing really new
Speaker 3: or obscure here. This is in ping Fang, China. Just
Speaker 3: everybody's this operation, All this took place in China. Let's
Speaker 3: continue reading these paragraphs and we'll move on to the
Speaker 3: next topic. But Unit seven thirty one and their project
Speaker 3: paper Clip to get them to the US. There's a
Speaker 3: reason why that is around the timeframe when America started
Speaker 3: looking at dropping fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes on their enemy.
Speaker 2: Unit seven thirty one was created in nineteen thirty six. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that thirty six, dude, We're not talking about five hundred
Speaker 2: years ago. We're talking about less than one hundred years ago.
Speaker 3: World War II was popping. That is a thing for sure.
Speaker 3: And if I'm not mistaken, this is before Japan and
Speaker 3: Germany teamed up. It was either then or right around
Speaker 3: this time, but neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: So it was created in nineteen thirty six by the
Speaker 2: authorization of Emperor Hiro Hoodo in Japanese occupied Manchuria with
Speaker 2: the aim of developing biological weapons. It was led by
Speaker 2: Ishi Shiro and had a partner, Unit Unit one hundred.
Speaker 2: Unit seven thirty one was supported by Japanese universities and
Speaker 2: medical school, which supplied doctors and research staff. Organized under
Speaker 2: the alias of the Epidemic Prevention and Water Purification Department
Speaker 2: of the Kwantung Army, Unit seven thirty one operated as
Speaker 2: a covert chemical and bacteriological warfare research and development unit,
Speaker 2: conducting and responsible for some of the most atrocious war
Speaker 2: crimes of Imperial Japan. According to several former workers of
Speaker 2: Unit seven thirty one and Unit one hundred, the laboratories
Speaker 2: were constructured constructed for the purpose of manufacturing bacteriological weapons
Speaker 2: which the Japanese Army would use against, namely the Soviet Union, Mongolia,
Speaker 2: and China. While the units were not created with the
Speaker 2: sole purpose of preparing Japan for war against the USSR,
Speaker 2: there is evidence that proves the expected war was one
Speaker 2: of the major motivations. On August August ninth of nineteen
Speaker 2: forty five, the Soviet Union officially declared war on Japan,
Speaker 2: and the Red Army moved into Japanese occupied Manchuria. In
Speaker 2: response to the Soviets declaration of war, the Japanese government
Speaker 2: in Tokyo ordered that all research facilities in Manchuria be
Speaker 2: destroyed to erase all incriminating material. Unit one hundred, located
Speaker 2: just south of chang Chun and Unit seven thirty one,
Speaker 2: located in the cluster of villages known as ping Fan,
Speaker 2: had had carried out some of Japan's most horrific war
Speaker 2: crimes during World War Two.
Speaker 3: Now side tangent, but still on topic here, I get
Speaker 3: so pissed off whenever I read these comments not on
Speaker 3: our podcast, but there's like, yeah, because I watch a
Speaker 3: lot of historical YouTube docs and things like that, because
Speaker 3: I love history, and I am so tired of hearing
Speaker 3: so many of these like lib tard socialist students that
Speaker 3: are going on and on about the only reason why
Speaker 3: we won World War two was because the Soviet Union
Speaker 3: was about to do this, that, and the other. Right,
Speaker 3: And you could make that argument as far as Europe
Speaker 3: is concerned, but my favor is whenever they tell us
Speaker 3: that once Russia declared war on Japan nineteen forty five,
Speaker 3: which is towards the end of the war, right, that
Speaker 3: was the year the war ended, as a matter of fact,
Speaker 3: that that's the only reason that they surrendered, not because
Speaker 3: of the nukes that got dropped, but because they were
Speaker 3: afraid of the great powerful communists of the Soviet Union
Speaker 3: coming in there.
Speaker 1: And it's like, all right, big dog, let's just break
Speaker 1: this down.
Speaker 3: You would know who didn't have a navy, the Soviet
Speaker 3: fucking Union. So yeah, the Soviet Union would have been
Speaker 3: able to kick them out of Manchiria in China, but
Speaker 3: as soon as they got to the waterfront, there was
Speaker 3: no way for the Russians to make any kind of
Speaker 3: actual land invasion onto mainland Japan, that would have been
Speaker 3: the Marines. That's the only reason why that took place.
Speaker 3: And for that point, you know, every single purple heart
Speaker 3: that has been manufactured.
Speaker 1: You know what the purple heart is, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like whenever you get injured in war
Speaker 2: or something like that, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, right.
Speaker 3: It's also referred to as the enemy marksmanship badge because
Speaker 3: they were good enough to shoot you. So you get
Speaker 3: one because they shot you anyway beside the pot. So
Speaker 3: every single purple heart that has been awarded to this
Speaker 3: day were all produced in nineteen forty four and forty
Speaker 3: five because they expected that it was going to take
Speaker 3: that many people and that many deaths and that many
Speaker 3: injuries to invade and win in mainland Japan. We haven't
Speaker 3: produced a purple heart in decades.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: That's actually pretty cool. I mean not cool. I mean
Speaker 2: it sucks that they thought that those numbers would have
Speaker 2: dwindled that much. It's good that we didn't have to
Speaker 2: use all those people, though, So.
Speaker 1: I think about that.
Speaker 3: Dude, they've manufactured five hundred thousand medals because they were
Speaker 3: assuming that at least five hundred thousand people were gonna
Speaker 3: be killed or injured.
Speaker 1: Or we could We got these two bombs. They're experimental.
Speaker 3: They're really bad, but they might be a wake up
Speaker 3: call to the Emperor and he might decide to withdraw
Speaker 3: and just surrender.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be.
Speaker 3: Bad, but we'll save half a million of our guys.
Speaker 3: Fuck it, send them. And then they threatened a third
Speaker 3: one and that's what ended World War two actually, But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just it's it's interesting to hear these people bitch
Speaker 3: and moan about the details when they could like just
Speaker 3: read a history book.
Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, well that's that's the thing is a
Speaker 2: lot of people just live in their own fantasy land.
Speaker 1: Whenever it comes to politics.
Speaker 3: Communism and socialism. They think that this is like the way,
Speaker 3: the truth and the life. And it's like, brother, it's
Speaker 3: just it's never going to work. It's it is fantasy
Speaker 3: and like in the fantasy realm, it's wonderful, like for sure,
Speaker 3: it's just.
Speaker 1: Never gonna work in real life.
Speaker 3: But anyway, like I said, side tangent, but still kind
Speaker 3: of in the conversation, what we're talking about here now
Speaker 3: for Unit seven thirty one, it should be mentioned that
Speaker 3: one of the experiments that they conducted they dropped plague
Speaker 3: infested fleas into villages in China, killing somewhere around somewhere.
Speaker 3: I've heard reports of tens of thousands. I've heard reports
Speaker 3: saying hundreds of thousands. But the idea of dropping infected
Speaker 3: in X into an area specifically to kill the local population.
Speaker 3: Units seven thirty one were actually doing that in the
Speaker 3: nineteen thirties and forties. So now we cut to the
Speaker 3: nineteen fifties and all of a sudden, the United States military,
Speaker 3: the Air Force and the Army, Operation Big Buzz and
Speaker 3: Big Itch and all these things, they're starting to experiment
Speaker 3: with dropping some some bugs that may or may not
Speaker 3: be infected.
Speaker 1: Where did they get this idea from? You see what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, Yeah, yeah, well, there's nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 1: As they say, yeah, this is very accurate.
Speaker 3: The uh, well, I'm gonna get to this one here
Speaker 3: in a moment. So with that being said, in the
Speaker 3: nineteen sixties, the US had developed an entire insect arsenal.
Speaker 3: The breakdown goes as follows. Mosquitoes could be used to
Speaker 3: spread yellow fever, malaria, and dingay fever, fleas to spread
Speaker 3: plague obviously, ticks to spread telera amia or rabbit's disease
Speaker 3: we talked about that one, or Q fever flies to
Speaker 3: spread cholera and dysentery, and grasshoppers to cause famine by
Speaker 3: crop destruction. All of these things were being genetically modified
Speaker 3: and mass produced at scale by our government agencies in
Speaker 3: the nineteen sixties. Then, with that being said, historians still
Speaker 3: debate why there was a massive dingay fever outbreaking Cuba
Speaker 3: in the nineteen sixties. Again, I refer back to Operation
Speaker 3: Mongoose and how we know for a fact that they
Speaker 3: dropped a blight a African swine virus in Cuba. We
Speaker 3: know for a fact that they dropped yellow fever mosquitoes
Speaker 3: into Cuba. We know that they dropped beetles hoping that
Speaker 3: they would kill the sugarcane population. And there was also
Speaker 3: this crazy spike in dingay fever in Cuba in the
Speaker 3: nineteen sixties. Is that coincidence? Is that active nature? I?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say that any of this is really coincidence.
Speaker 2: We don't believe in those things. I wanted to throw.
Speaker 2: I was just curious because I was like, man, you know,
Speaker 2: They're they're trying to essentially just employ insects to take
Speaker 2: care of their dirty work. And it made me just
Speaker 2: think of, you know how many insects superheroes there are, right,
Speaker 2: And I was so you got Spider Man, Ant Man,
Speaker 2: the Wasp, Blue Beetle, which, by the way, fucking awesome movie.
Speaker 2: Should should definitely watch that, Black Widow, the Tick, the Bug,
Speaker 2: Insect Man. And then there's another one called grow To
Speaker 2: King of Insects either way, spider Man, yeah, Sace spider Man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the first one. Then you have the Monarch
Speaker 2: Firefly insect Queen, and the list goes on and on.
Speaker 2: But it's just interesting how you have Batman, I mean,
Speaker 2: eats all the insects, right, So it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, you're you're trying to employ
Speaker 2: bugs to basically do your dirty work for you, and
Speaker 2: then you got all these superheroes with all the bug names.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a tie there.
Speaker 3: I think that you're on something here. There's a reason
Speaker 3: why they have been used to spread fear for so long.
Speaker 3: I think there's a reason why if you were a
Speaker 3: comic book artist or writer or whatever, the case, you
Speaker 3: would draw inspiration from these types of things one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I was trying to figure out when Spider Man
Speaker 2: was first put into the comics. It wasn't until nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty two, so it was after a little after this.
Speaker 1: I thought I was in the fifties. Oka sixty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, Stanley put it into Amazing Fantasy number fifteen.
Speaker 1: Okay, there you go with that being said.
Speaker 3: Also, like we said, the Cuban outbreak of dingey fever
Speaker 3: and yellow fever and all these things, or the Nassa
Speaker 3: spiking encephalitis in Florida.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen sixties. Inside, Hey, well, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know anything about that. Right.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy two, the US signed the Bio Weapons Convention,
Speaker 3: meaning that they were gonna stop testing on humans.
Speaker 1: That was for sure. It was ever done with all that.
Speaker 3: It was wild things that we did in the past
Speaker 3: couple of decades, but it was for the greater good.
Speaker 3: But we are better now, right But dot dot dot,
Speaker 3: the rise of a lime disease around Plum Island would
Speaker 3: indicate that they did not actually stop their testing. Remember
Speaker 3: we talked about Plumb Island with your boy William Hess
Speaker 3: former Nazi scientists, and how that is an animal testing laboratory.
Speaker 3: Why would there be a crazy lime disease outbreak around
Speaker 3: this lab if it was shut down in seventy two,
Speaker 3: Why in seventy seven and seventy nine were these crazy
Speaker 3: lime disease outbreaks taking place.
Speaker 1: That's quite the It's quite the beard scratcher, sir.
Speaker 3: Indeed it is. Now let's cut to DARPA today. DARPA,
Speaker 3: for anybody who doesn't know you really have been living
Speaker 3: under a rock. But DARPA has this group that does
Speaker 3: R and D into something called Insect Allies. Jonathan, would
Speaker 3: you like to read into DARPA's Insect Allies page?
Speaker 1: Is anything from DARPA ever good? Like? Is it? Isn't
Speaker 1: it all? It's almost like the evil headquarters of the world.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say all of it's well.
Speaker 3: I mean they make shit that's like used as weapons,
Speaker 3: like that's what they are, right, It's like Stark Industries.
Speaker 1: Do Stark Industries make anything good? I mean they make bombs, dude,
Speaker 1: that's what they do. But it's not like a bomb manufacturing.
Speaker 3: DARPA, especially with the Skunkworks variety of it, is more
Speaker 3: of like the secret squirrel, of the secret squirrel type
Speaker 3: of shit. You remember the CIA came out with that
Speaker 3: heart attack gun and they brought it out on the
Speaker 3: committee floor and showed them the little ice bullet and
Speaker 3: the whole nine DARPA thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it's so. The inzact Allies
Speaker 2: program is pursuing scalable, readily deployable, and generalizable countermeasures against
Speaker 2: potential natural and engineered threats to the foods apply with
Speaker 2: the goals of preserving the US crop system. National security
Speaker 2: can be quickly jeopardized by naturally occurring threats to the
Speaker 2: crop system, including pantheogens, drought, flood, and frost, but especially
Speaker 2: by threats introduced by state or non state actors. Insect
Speaker 2: Diala seeks to mitigate the impact of these incursions by
Speaker 2: applying targeted therapies to mature plants with effects that are
Speaker 2: expressed at relevant time scales, namely within a single growing season.
Speaker 2: Such an unprecedented capability would provide an urgently needed alternative
Speaker 2: to pesticides, selective breeding, slash and burn, clearing, and quarantine,
Speaker 2: which are often ineffective against rapidly emerging threats and are
Speaker 2: not suited to securing mature plants.
Speaker 1: To development it. So on the onset sounds good.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Let's say that we have some something.
Speaker 3: Happen of the natural disaster variety or of the terroristic
Speaker 3: variety whatever, and our crops are affected. So maybe I'm
Speaker 3: missing something here, But what are you doing with insects
Speaker 3: DARPA to help prevent or fight against this?
Speaker 2: Let's keep going to develop such countermeasures. Insect Allies performer
Speaker 2: teams are leveraging a natural and efficient two step delivery
Speaker 2: system to transfer modified genes to plants. Insect vectors and
Speaker 2: the plant viruses they transmit these.
Speaker 1: Pause pus pause plus pospos pause fucking pause. Insect dialogs.
Speaker 3: Performer teams are leveraging a natural and effective two step
Speaker 3: delivery system transfer modified genes to plants. I'm sorry, what
Speaker 3: what about that is natural? What you're talking about gene
Speaker 3: splice technology in insects or plants as a way to countermeasure,
Speaker 3: And you're calling this natural?
Speaker 1: Why? Because they're living, they're trying to go God mode?
Speaker 1: I think exactly.
Speaker 2: Let's continue insect the program's three technical areas viral manipulation,
Speaker 2: insect vector optimization, and selective gene therapy in mature plants,
Speaker 2: layered together to support the goal of rapidly modifying plant
Speaker 2: traits without the need for extensive infrastructure. Since the start
Speaker 2: of the program, Insect Allies teams with expertise and molecular
Speaker 2: and synthetic biology have demonstrated mounting technical breakthroughs that are
Speaker 2: providing foundational knowledge in plant virus, gene editing, and disease
Speaker 2: vector biology, from which the program.
Speaker 1: Will continue to build.
Speaker 2: DARPA emphasizes biosafety and biosecurity in this research. All work
Speaker 2: has conducted insize inside closed laboratories, greenhouses, or other secured facilities.
Speaker 2: DARPA is not funding open release.
Speaker 1: Of course not, of course not, And of course it's
Speaker 1: in secure locations.
Speaker 3: There's never ever been an outbreak from one of these
Speaker 3: secure locations that led to any kind of big picture,
Speaker 3: mass casualty, world economy stopping event ever.
Speaker 1: Ever, that'd be fucking crazy. Brow coronavirus.
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing it out now, not even getting onto
Speaker 3: Bill Gates, not even getting onto the nineteen eighty one
Speaker 3: dingay fever outbreak, right, not even getting on name your thing.
Speaker 3: There was all kinds of malaria outbreaks in Africa and India,
Speaker 3: they're all over South America.
Speaker 1: We talked about.
Speaker 3: How they actually were developing mosquitoes to inject the virus
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the jab into people in South America via
Speaker 3: natural means. We've talked about New World screwworm a time
Speaker 3: or two and how that has made its way across
Speaker 3: for decades, and how they finally found a way to
Speaker 3: have a bug eat the fly larva out of the
Speaker 3: wounds before they could develop into this. All of these
Speaker 3: things about insect genetic modification.
Speaker 1: People think it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Whenever we talk about how the love bug, as a
Speaker 3: hypothetical was developed in a lab somewhere through gene splicing, and.
Speaker 1: They don't understand it.
Speaker 3: They think that that's crazy, even though it's confirmed that
Speaker 3: they have been doing this since realistically seven thirty one
Speaker 3: was doing this in the nineteen thirties and forties right
Speaker 3: cut to the fifties and sixties and seventies and eighties
Speaker 3: when they were doing this.
Speaker 1: But again, the US clearly.
Speaker 3: Has not done this because they signed that treaty in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy two or the convention, I should say, even
Speaker 3: though it's understood that that is that was a wipe your.
Speaker 1: Ass kind of piece of paper that they signed.
Speaker 3: Right, So, before we get into a modern example, what
Speaker 3: are you thinking at this moment, bro.
Speaker 2: I think that evil genius is gonna evil genius. That's fair,
Speaker 2: just sounds like it. And and for anybody that ever,
Speaker 2: if you still have a shred of hope or reliance
Speaker 2: or respect for your government whatsoever, or even the world's government,
Speaker 2: doesn't even matter what country you're living in, because they
Speaker 2: all do it, dude, every single one of them. If
Speaker 2: you still have any kind of respect for any of them,
Speaker 2: you think that they're ever looking out for the betterment
Speaker 2: of your life, for your neighbor's lives, your kids' lives,
Speaker 2: any of that. Think again, Okay, they look at you
Speaker 2: as a number, They look at you as a test.
Speaker 2: We're gonna spray all these We're gonna drop a bomb
Speaker 2: full of mosquitoes and report back. Oh yeah, well, the
Speaker 2: people they said that it was okay, we can just release,
Speaker 2: you know, a million mosquitoes on you. There's no way
Speaker 2: in hell, there's no way in hell that all those
Speaker 2: people said, please give us all the mosquitoes, because everybody
Speaker 2: loves a good mosquito bite from time to time, don't
Speaker 2: we It's like nobody would ever say that, and so yes,
Speaker 2: they not only they say that they're doing it to
Speaker 2: try and you know, use it for biological warfare, these
Speaker 2: kinds of things. Meanwhile, they test it on their own citizens.
Speaker 2: The biological warfare is not only for foreigners, it is
Speaker 2: for you too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, so again, when they tested them on US civilians,
Speaker 3: it was in areas. One of them was a testing
Speaker 3: site in Utah, right. The only people that were really
Speaker 3: affected by that were military members that happened to be
Speaker 3: stationed at that test site.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like nobody had to be hospitalized over it. Cool.
Speaker 3: Another time was in an African American town outside of Savannah, Georgia,
Speaker 3: and no, again nobody had to be hospitalized over it,
Speaker 3: but they did get eight alive by mosquitoes, and they
Speaker 3: were just testing to see if the mosquitoes could survive
Speaker 3: that kind of a fall. And then in Avon Park
Speaker 3: there was at one point a bit of a spike
Speaker 3: in infantiga or not infantigu, I'm sorry, encephalitis. And they're
Speaker 3: claiming that that had nothing to do with anything because
Speaker 3: Avon Park is also a testing site, and like that's
Speaker 3: all good, But that being said, why would you test
Speaker 3: this if you were not about to use it. We
Speaker 3: don't do that. Our government doesn't do that. The CIA
Speaker 3: doesn't do that. They don't get a new shiny toy
Speaker 3: and then decide to shelve it.
Speaker 1: That is never how that goes down.
Speaker 3: As soon as they get a new shiny toy, they
Speaker 3: look for a fucking reason to use it. They got
Speaker 3: to test it out in the real world. They simply
Speaker 3: have to. Can you imagine that if you get a
Speaker 3: brand new gun and you never go shoot it, not
Speaker 3: even once at a range or something, the fuck out
Speaker 3: of here, you're gonna look for a.
Speaker 1: Reason to go that way to go to the range.
Speaker 3: Oh, while I'm in that city that I have nothing
Speaker 3: to do over there, let me stop off that that
Speaker 3: range real quick. That's how this works. When it's the government,
Speaker 3: the military, the three letter agencies. They look for somebody
Speaker 3: somewhere that needs some help, and they'll try to find
Speaker 3: a way to coerce the wording to where it seems
Speaker 3: like it's in the nation's best interest that the CIA
Speaker 3: goes over to the Democratic Republic of the Congo and
Speaker 3: infects half the people.
Speaker 1: In malaria for America. For the people right of.
Speaker 3: Course, because there's enough mental gymnastics and hoops to jump
Speaker 3: through the wait to where that will make sense to somebody.
Speaker 1: This is how this goes.
Speaker 2: Yes, always inclined, It was always meant for you to uh.
Speaker 2: And this is honestly, like my true belief is that
Speaker 2: the government literally wants your worship like.
Speaker 1: Like god deity style.
Speaker 2: And if you look back, like dude, all the old
Speaker 2: emperors of Rome, all the way up until Constantine, including Constantine,
Speaker 2: they were worshiped literally, they were worshiped as gods on earth.
Speaker 2: And that's why if you look at all the all
Speaker 2: of the old Roman coins and stuff like that, every
Speaker 2: single one of them have their heads on it with
Speaker 2: a fucking sun right behind them.
Speaker 1: For solen victis.
Speaker 2: Almost to be seen as parallels to Solenvictus himself, you know,
Speaker 2: the sense.
Speaker 3: They they usually had their statue be erected in those
Speaker 3: temples right for the sun god or for Zeus, because
Speaker 3: they wanted to be worshiped as the god on earth.
Speaker 3: As far as war is concerned, mostly the regular Roman
Speaker 3: civilians would not typically worship the emperor like that, but
Speaker 3: these soldiers absolutely did. Very similar to how we've talked
Speaker 3: talked about Marines worshiping mad Dog Madis as some sort
Speaker 3: of a deity, right, Like that's but it wasn't done
Speaker 3: as a joke. These these dudes would legitimately make sacrifices
Speaker 3: to the still living Caesar.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: And of course you have to look at which time
Speaker 3: frame and Rome were talking about. Was it when it
Speaker 3: was ran by the Senate or was it ran by
Speaker 3: the Republic or was it ran by an Olive garkeet.
Speaker 3: Rome wasn't just like a one size fits all term.
Speaker 3: They went through transitional stages. But like to your point, yes,
Speaker 3: when they did have a Caesar, a dictator in charge,
Speaker 3: Yes he was worshiped as a deity.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I'm not saying that they all worshiped
Speaker 2: them in the same way that people worship Jesus.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that there were small cults, small cult groups
Speaker 2: that absolutely looked at.
Speaker 1: Them like they were gods. Right, most of the military
Speaker 1: that would be that cult group, yes.
Speaker 2: Right, right, And so yeah, I think that that's really
Speaker 2: what they're trying to get back to, especially you look
Speaker 2: at Trump right now, and every single fucking billboard that
Speaker 2: I see has Jesus and Trump in the same sentence,
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on all across Louisiana, all
Speaker 2: across the South and including some some in Texas.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why are we putting these two parallel
Speaker 1: with each other?
Speaker 3: They are talking about Louisiana, thank God, But I believe
Speaker 3: they're out there.
Speaker 2: Oh they are, dude. It's like, it's it just makes
Speaker 2: me sick to my stomach. I'm not even a Christian,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, how are you gonna sit there and
Speaker 2: say Donald Trump and Jesus Christ are somehow working in communion?
Speaker 1: Get out of here with that. I just don't see it. Sorry.
Speaker 3: I know I'm not like the deepest of biblical scholars,
Speaker 3: and nor am I an expert in geopolitics, but I
Speaker 3: like to think that I have a, you know, a
Speaker 3: more working understanding of both than your average bear. Could
Speaker 3: be wrong, but uh, you know, just looking at the
Speaker 3: figures and the facts here, I gotta say that is
Speaker 3: a laughable proposition.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it's not only just a Trump. I'm
Speaker 2: not even just trying to throw him under the bus.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the government in general has always wanted
Speaker 2: to look like the Savior figure.
Speaker 1: That's why you have.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, that's why you have things such as
Speaker 2: government housing and food stamps and you know, free insurance
Speaker 2: and all this other shit, because if the government is
Speaker 2: giving you something for free, you you're now gonna look
Speaker 2: at them like they're really helping you, like they really
Speaker 2: care about you. And who was the party that gave
Speaker 2: you all of those things, Well, I'm just gonna keep
Speaker 2: on voting for that party. It's the same reason why
Speaker 2: they have all of the immigrants come in, Like, look
Speaker 2: at it, what was it millions of immigrants that were
Speaker 2: coming during the Biden term, and as soon as they
Speaker 2: got here, they were not even citizens yet they were
Speaker 2: allowed to vote.
Speaker 1: You didn't need an idea, and as.
Speaker 2: A matter of fact, it was racist to ask for
Speaker 2: their id like you want to talk about an actual
Speaker 2: Like they're trying to build a government that is worshiped.
Speaker 2: I think that's just yep, that's just where I think
Speaker 2: it goes.
Speaker 1: I agree, And if not worshiped at the very east.
Speaker 3: They want the American public to come to them for everything,
Speaker 3: and they want to do that to such a degree
Speaker 3: that the American public loses that idea of independence, the
Speaker 3: idea of buying a home is very difficult for a
Speaker 3: lot of the younger generation right now, and especially the
Speaker 3: ones that are just breaking out from college or just
Speaker 3: graduating from high school. Buying a home seems almost like
Speaker 3: an unclimbable mountain at this particular moment, right And there's
Speaker 3: reasons for this, one hundred percent. But they want you on.
Speaker 3: They want you renting consistently. They don't want you to
Speaker 3: own land or own a house that gives you leverage,
Speaker 3: that gives you buying power, that gives you something that
Speaker 3: you could actually go and take a larger loan for
Speaker 3: later and make bigger boss moves and all that. They
Speaker 3: don't want that. They do not want that. And they
Speaker 3: don't want you going out there and getting a job
Speaker 3: where you're living like high on the hog by any means.
Speaker 3: They want you to need food stamps, to need government insurance,
Speaker 3: to need these things. Because it's the same if you
Speaker 3: ever been to a national park and you see a
Speaker 3: sign saying don't feed the animals. It's not because the
Speaker 3: animals will attack you. They don't want the animals to
Speaker 3: become reliant on the handouts, because then the animals will
Speaker 3: stop hunting and foraging for themselves.
Speaker 1: This has been.
Speaker 3: Scientifically proven across the board, no matter which biome you
Speaker 3: happen to live in, whether it's a rabbit, whether it's
Speaker 3: a deer, whether it's a snake, whatever the case, if
Speaker 3: you are hand feeding them everything, they'll stop doing bear
Speaker 3: shit and squirrel shit and all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: And that's bad for the ecosystem as a whole. Now
Speaker 1: take that to the human conversation. It's the same thing.
Speaker 3: If a human gets everything that they ever want, just
Speaker 3: because they will stop working for it. They'll stop striving
Speaker 3: for it, they'll stop trying to accomplish things, they'll stop
Speaker 3: trying to make something better for themselves. This is the
Speaker 3: mindset of communism, and this is what the government quote unquote,
Speaker 3: the powers that be really and truly want for us.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even gonna put it to the left
Speaker 1: wing or the right wing.
Speaker 3: I think they want this in different ways, maybe to
Speaker 3: a different scope, maybe to a different scale, but I
Speaker 3: absolutely believe that that is the overarching end goal.
Speaker 1: Does this make sense, Yeah, it absolutely does.
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that food
Speaker 2: stamps and you know, government housing shouldn't be available.
Speaker 1: Now because I think that need to be there.
Speaker 3: To help people that are truly downtrodden, people that really
Speaker 3: find themselves in a tough jam and need a little
Speaker 3: bit of help. I got no issue giving somebody some
Speaker 3: help for some hard times, but that shouldn't be a
Speaker 3: fifteen year handout of hard times bro well.
Speaker 2: And also like, yeah, I think that it should be
Speaker 2: a thing, because we're paying the taxes for it anyway,
Speaker 2: Like our money should be going towards helping you know,
Speaker 2: our own brothers and sisters all totally for that. But
Speaker 2: to be honest, I think that there shouldn't be any taxes.
Speaker 2: I think that we should do away with taxes. Therefore,
Speaker 2: I think that we should do away with food stamps
Speaker 2: and all the government housing programs and all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff.
Speaker 1: Personally, that's my own personal thing.
Speaker 2: I think that if you didn't have taxes, you wouldn't
Speaker 2: have to do that, and everybody would have to fend
Speaker 2: for themselves. Which, if you think about it, what is it,
Speaker 2: like a third of our money, a third of our
Speaker 2: paychecks go to the government anyway, we're a third of
Speaker 2: Imagine like, hey, you get to raise this year a
Speaker 2: third of your salary, you go up, like, Okay, I
Speaker 2: don't need food stamps anymore, because now that money is
Speaker 2: not going to the fucking government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, taxation is theft.
Speaker 3: And here's the deal. I don't have an issue with
Speaker 3: taxes inherently. I have an issue of taxation without representation.
Speaker 3: And I don't know about you good cult member listening,
Speaker 3: but I haven't felt represented in fucking years.
Speaker 1: If ever. That's my issue with it, not by the government.
Speaker 3: No, no, so anyway, anywayway, So now we're getting back
Speaker 3: to this chemical biological insect weaponization. Now let's cut to
Speaker 3: something that hopefully our good cult members have heard about
Speaker 3: in the last few weeks. This is from CBS News.
Speaker 3: Chagas disease or deadly kissing bug disease has spread in
Speaker 3: the US. And here is what to know. This was
Speaker 3: reported on a day ago as of time recording, So
Speaker 3: just so we're all clear, it's ay months ago or
Speaker 3: weeks ago. This is something that is currently happening as
Speaker 3: we speak. I'm not saying this is the new plague.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is the new COVID. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying this is the new flu. I'm saying that this
Speaker 3: is a clear sign of some entity using insects as
Speaker 3: a weapon against us, and I think our cult members
Speaker 3: need to be on the look out to what to
Speaker 3: look for.
Speaker 1: Let's check it out.
Speaker 2: Chaga's disease, a potentially deadly condition caused by an infected
Speaker 2: triotomine insect or kissing bug, maybe becoming endemic in the
Speaker 2: United States, according to the CDC. In the report, which
Speaker 2: was originally published last month for the September issue of
Speaker 2: the CDC's Emerging Infectious Diseases Journal, the author said that
Speaker 2: the disease is already endemic to twenty one countries in
Speaker 2: the Americas, and growing evidence of the parasite is challenging
Speaker 2: the non endemic label. In the United States, auto cathonis
Speaker 2: or locally acquired human cases have been reported in eight states,
Speaker 2: most notably in Texas. Oh fucking of course it is
Speaker 2: labeling the United States as non Chagas disease endemic perpetuates
Speaker 2: low awareness and underreporting, the report noted, adding the insect
Speaker 2: has been reported in thirty two states. Other states with
Speaker 2: human cases include California, Arizona, Tennessee, Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, and Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Literally everywhere that I've lived.
Speaker 3: So I'm telling you, bro, look so on the map
Speaker 3: that we see right here. The yellow states are states
Speaker 3: with reported bugs, animal cases and some human cases.
Speaker 1: Blue are states where they are only.
Speaker 3: Triatmines and the local human cases. Grace states or states
Speaker 3: with reported bugs. And the red is reported with the
Speaker 3: bugs and the animal cases.
Speaker 1: So the triatmines of the bugs right.
Speaker 3: The white states all these northern states so far nothing,
Speaker 3: The gray states have some bugs, Red states have bugs
Speaker 3: with animals, Blue has bugs with human and yellow is all.
Speaker 1: The above was that Mississippi is the blue one Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I always get missippen Kansas mixed up on the map. But anyway, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: it says.
Speaker 2: The report notes that data is inadequate to prove that
Speaker 2: the insects are increasing in geographic distribution or abundance, but
Speaker 2: it also says that the bugs are increasingly recognized because
Speaker 2: of frequent encounters with humans and due to more research attention.
Speaker 2: Invasion into homes, human bites, subsequent allergic reactions or exposure
Speaker 2: to t cruisy parasites, and increasing frequency of canine diagnosises
Speaker 2: have led to growing public awareness. It says the condition
Speaker 2: is caused by tripanosoma cruisy parasites found in Trio triatomine
Speaker 2: or kiss bugs, which can pass the disease to other
Speaker 2: animals and humans. According to UCLA Health, the insects nickname
Speaker 2: come from the bug often biting people on the face.
Speaker 1: God yeah, it's usually around the mouth.
Speaker 2: According to the CDC, about eight million people globally and
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty thousand people in the United States
Speaker 2: have have the disease, often without knowing it. People might
Speaker 2: scratch or rub bug feces into a bite, wound, their
Speaker 2: eyes or mouth without realizing it, which allows the parasite
Speaker 2: to enter the body, the CDC says. The agency explains
Speaker 2: that bugs pass the parasite in their droppings after biting
Speaker 2: a person or animal. If these droppings get into someone's
Speaker 2: body through a cut in the skin or near the
Speaker 2: eyes or mouth, it can lead to infection.
Speaker 1: It looks like a tick.
Speaker 3: ConA does, doesn't it, But it does fly. These are wings,
Speaker 3: so we should mention that. So they'll fly up to
Speaker 3: your face and you'll like smack at it to kill it, right. Cool,
Speaker 3: But when you smear the guts and more than likely
Speaker 3: the feces unless you have an open cut on your
Speaker 3: on your lip or something from having chapped lips wherever
Speaker 3: the case is you can get the infection because the
Speaker 3: parasite is living within this bug. This bug itself is
Speaker 3: not the dangerous part. It's just parasites that are within it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bug's just a carrier at that point.
Speaker 2: The disease does not spread from person to person like
Speaker 2: a cold, nor does it spread through casual contact with
Speaker 2: does infect it. Without treatment, the condition can be life threatening.
Speaker 1: The CDC says.
Speaker 2: In the acute phase, which happens shortly after infection, a
Speaker 2: type of eyelid swelling known as Romagna's sign may appear.
Speaker 2: This happens when the tripanasoma cruisy parasite gets into the eyelid,
Speaker 2: usually by accidentally rubbing the bug feces into your eye
Speaker 2: or into a bug bite near your eye. Other acute
Speaker 2: signs may be fever, feeling tired, body aches, headache, rash,
Speaker 2: loss of appetite, diarrhea, or vomiting. Others may experience symptoms
Speaker 2: for years or a lifetime, which is known as the
Speaker 2: chronic phase of infection and can include heart and digestive issues.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, I need.
Speaker 2: The disease can destroy the nerves that feed the various
Speaker 2: parts of your body, so your heart, your esophagus, and
Speaker 2: your colon infectious disease. Physician Tom Moore told CBS in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen as cases made their way north. In both stages,
Speaker 2: some people might not feel sick, while others have serious
Speaker 2: health problems. The CDC adds, so how to avoid the
Speaker 2: kissing bugs? It says there are no vaccines or drugs
Speaker 2: that can prevent the choggis disease at this time, according
Speaker 2: to the CDC, so it's important to protect yourself. Prevention
Speaker 2: methods include staying in well built places if traveling, using
Speaker 2: insecticides and bug spray, wearing clothes that cover your skin,
Speaker 2: and not eating roth fruits and vegetables, as the infection
Speaker 2: can also be acquired orally or through the mouth via
Speaker 2: contaminated food. Experts also previously told CBS News that homeowners
Speaker 2: can seal windows and keep trash piles of wood and
Speaker 2: rocks away from their homes to reduce the risk. That's interesting,
Speaker 2: So they're telling you to basically stay inside, use insecticides,
Speaker 2: and don't eat fruit and vesta.
Speaker 3: So listen, is the kissing bug a real thing? Is
Speaker 3: this infection a real thing?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Is it something that we need to be on high
Speaker 3: alert for? I don't know, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: Is this possibly them using weaponized paranoia?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 3: Is this a genetically modified bug that they have used
Speaker 3: in Central America for this for these purposes, and now
Speaker 3: they've made their way into America and they're making their
Speaker 3: way north and this is something that our three letter
Speaker 3: agencies had a hand in creating.
Speaker 1: Is this a DARPA experiment gone awry?
Speaker 3: Look, I honestly don't know how to call it to
Speaker 3: could be completely honest with you. Both have real possibilities
Speaker 3: of being the real the reality here. Could this all
Speaker 3: be propaganda any o? The bug is doing some things,
Speaker 3: But if you have three cases in your state, is
Speaker 3: that considered an epidemic?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I also don't know if this is
Speaker 3: something that could be serious. And people need to be
Speaker 3: careful about smacking bugs for your mouth area, perhaps brush
Speaker 3: them aside rather than slap them.
Speaker 1: I don't know which way to call it. But here's
Speaker 1: the deal, everybody.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even saying that you should absolutely be
Speaker 3: using you know, the strongest of pesticides on your body,
Speaker 3: a mosquito dope and all these things.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you feel, right?
Speaker 3: What I am saying is that the next time you're
Speaker 3: smacking a mosquito away, do you know for sure if
Speaker 3: that's a natural mosquito or is this the remnants of
Speaker 3: a CIA operation gone awry.
Speaker 1: Honestly, there's no way of knowing either way.
Speaker 3: So for me myself, I will be planting plants around
Speaker 3: my house to just sway mosquitoes from coming in or
Speaker 3: coming near my area. I will be using mosquito spray
Speaker 3: when I'm out in an area where the mosquitoes are
Speaker 3: fucking ridiculous. Right, maybe not all my clothes, but or
Speaker 3: now my skin. I wear long sleeves year round, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe spraying it all my clothes will help.
Speaker 1: Disswade in all these things.
Speaker 3: And for the love of God, because we're coming into
Speaker 3: Halloween season, I have to say this. If you're living
Speaker 3: up north or somewhere that gets really cold by October,
Speaker 3: then this doesn't apply to you. If you're somewhere that
Speaker 3: stays warm and humid through October, please don't use dry
Speaker 3: ice for your for your fog effects for your Halloween decorations.
Speaker 1: Just use a fog machine. And uh yeah.
Speaker 3: This was the overarching theme of the Weaponized Insect Conversation.
Speaker 2: By the way, you can plant rosemary around your house
Speaker 2: and it'll keep a lot of mosquitos and other insects
Speaker 2: away because they don't like the the fragrant oils, which
Speaker 2: is unpleasant to them.
Speaker 1: Same with lemongrass too. Uh. There's a few.
Speaker 3: There's a few flowers that I've seen and like stuff
Speaker 3: that you could plant in your garden that like, are appealing,
Speaker 3: that also do a pretty decent job of keeping mosquitoes away.
Speaker 1: But they're not. It's not a one.
Speaker 3: You're not gonna plant one rosemary plant in your house
Speaker 3: is now secure.
Speaker 2: Okay, It's gonna take some vigilance, right. And also, rosemary
Speaker 2: smells like weed, so it smells glorious and delicious.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say that I have never
Speaker 1: smelled rosemary and thought that it smells like weed. Dude.
Speaker 2: If somebody, if somebody has like it all along the
Speaker 2: front of their house, You're like, holy shit, are these
Speaker 2: people blowing down right now? And it's just because they
Speaker 2: have a shitload of rosemary?
Speaker 1: Dude? I shit you not. I think at every time.
Speaker 3: Bro, I use rosemary and cooking, I have never smelled
Speaker 3: that in thought that smell like that dank.
Speaker 2: Like, never once, just saying sometimes it can get a
Speaker 2: little sour dieselly up in here, dude with a little rosemary.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: Anyway, maybe my nose is fucked up, who knows, but
Speaker 2: either way, Yeah, I thought this was a very important
Speaker 2: episode and also the reason why we like to bring
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff to your attention is to
Speaker 2: not spread fear. It's so that you can become aware
Speaker 2: because fear is ultimately what they want.
Speaker 1: They want you to be.
Speaker 2: Fearful puts you in a lower vibrational state, it puts
Speaker 2: you in more of an animalistic kind of reactionary type
Speaker 2: of mind. You're not thinking logically at all whenever you're
Speaker 2: in a fearful state. So once you are, you know,
Speaker 2: privileged with the understanding and the information of what they
Speaker 2: have done and what is currently going on, then no
Speaker 2: need to be scared.
Speaker 1: You just put it into action.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So just want to share this information again, not
Speaker 3: every single thing that happens as a government op, but
Speaker 3: there also needs to be the conversation that.
Speaker 1: At least a lot of it is right.
Speaker 3: The government has absolutely done testing on their own people.
Speaker 3: Before we talked about that with what was Operation a
Speaker 3: Starfish or Seafoam I forget which one where they were
Speaker 3: spraying the chemical into the Bay Area in California. And
Speaker 3: then they did it over the course of like the
Speaker 3: next twenty years on fifty different cities, over and over again,
Speaker 3: just to see how its spread. They did insect testing
Speaker 3: on US citizens, just to see how that would go down.
Speaker 3: They have looked at how to genetically modify insects for
Speaker 3: decades and then we look at the way things are
Speaker 3: going now. We hear about these outbreaks every few years
Speaker 3: in Africa. This is a bola outbreak. Every ten years,
Speaker 3: Africa gets hit with the bola. For the record, that's
Speaker 3: not a new thing, lady, Bowl of conversation. Was happening
Speaker 3: in America. It happens every ten years or so in Africa.
Speaker 3: It starts in the south and it works its way
Speaker 3: north and then it's gone malaria, typhoid, yellow fever, dengay fever,
Speaker 3: all these things. Yes, these are real sicknesses, but they're
Speaker 3: all being used as weapons. And we need our cult
Speaker 3: members to look at the world with that third asle
Speaker 3: all the way open, and we need you to be
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