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<v Speaker 1>Ah, It's the breakup of the century, the breakup that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we all should have seen coming, given that they

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<v Speaker 1>both seemed interested in different things. Elon and Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>a brief flash in the pan romance, Like most of

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<v Speaker 1>Elon's and romances, come to think of it, it gave

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<v Speaker 1>birth as also Elon romances tend to do to the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Doge idea, which is now kind of a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a kind of petering out. And I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about sort of what this breakup means now.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked a lot during the campaign and shortly after

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<v Speaker 1>the election about how Elon Musk engaging with the conservative

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<v Speaker 1>movement could have been maybe still will be to some extent,

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<v Speaker 1>but doesn't seem like it's going to be. Musk had

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<v Speaker 1>said even like a week or two ago that he

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<v Speaker 1>was not going to be as involved in politics as

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<v Speaker 1>he was this time around, and it seems like some

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<v Speaker 1>people have tweeted that he basically did a speed run,

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<v Speaker 1>so went through the whole thing very quickly of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire Republican experience in a matter of approximately one year,

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<v Speaker 1>less than a year, going from you know, delirious optimism,

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<v Speaker 1>thrilling victory and then inevitable embitterment and disappointment at the

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<v Speaker 1>mediocre results of those Republican victories. As the inevitable compromises

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<v Speaker 1>have to come about. Republicans go through that experience. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>it takes them, you know, a decade or two before

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<v Speaker 1>they get to that full circle of embitterment. Elon went

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<v Speaker 1>through that whole experience in less than a year. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I had said during campaign that Musk's, you know, engagement

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<v Speaker 1>with Republican politics could be transformative to the entire American

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<v Speaker 1>political scene. Here is literally the richest man in the

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<v Speaker 1>world highly engaged with the Republican Party, and in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four cycle, huge donations to Trump, to Republican

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<v Speaker 1>House candidates, to Republican Senate candidates, huge engagement, huge levels

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<v Speaker 1>of engagement. And my thought had been, well, look at

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<v Speaker 1>all of the ways in which let's say, George sorows okay,

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<v Speaker 1>George Soros like him or not, and I very much

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<v Speaker 1>do not like him. George Soros has undeniably had a

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<v Speaker 1>massive impact on American politics. He has reshaped American criminal

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<v Speaker 1>law in horrible ways through his brilliant strategy of flooding

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<v Speaker 1>local district attorney races with huge amounts of huge amounts

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<v Speaker 1>of cash to back horrible, extremely left wing district attorney

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<v Speaker 1>candidates for races that usually don't you know, don't involve

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<v Speaker 1>that much money, and all of a sudden, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>going to drop, you know, two hundred thousand and five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand, two million dollars. He's going to drop two

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars on a race where all the candidates combined

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<v Speaker 1>or narrowly wouldn't spend more than two hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>And by electing an ultra progressive district attorney, he can

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<v Speaker 1>utilize the power of what's called prosecutorial discretion to basically

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<v Speaker 1>just reshape American criminal law within that city. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the chase of Boudin types who basically were like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not going to prosecute any thing short of felony,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, grand larceny, you know people, So the spectacle

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<v Speaker 1>of people walking into cvs with their iPhone calculator in

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<v Speaker 1>hand and stealing, adding up the value of the things

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<v Speaker 1>they are stealing, just in broad daylight, just to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that it's one dollar less than the dividing line

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<v Speaker 1>between felony theft and misdemeanor theft. And just walking right out.

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<v Speaker 1>The employee at CVS is not supposed to stop them

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<v Speaker 1>with physical force. A CVS, you know, understandably, CVS is like, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want our employees to be superheroes. We have

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<v Speaker 1>insurance to help cover this, you know, we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>one of our employees getting hurt or something. We're trying to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, physically restrain someone who's just stealing stuff. That

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<v Speaker 1>was because of Chase A Budin. That was because of

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<v Speaker 1>Chase A Budin enacting the Soros ideology that African Americans

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<v Speaker 1>are incarcerat at disproportionate rates and therefore the enforcement of

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<v Speaker 1>criminal law for things like petty theft is just punishing

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<v Speaker 1>people for being poor, punishing persons of color and communities

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<v Speaker 1>of color for their poverty, the result of systemic racism,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So George Soros has

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<v Speaker 1>this massive impact on America. Elon Musk has way more

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<v Speaker 1>money than George Soros, unfathomably more. And the thought was, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if Donald Trump can reel in this fish and have

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<v Speaker 1>him be part of the conservative coalition going forward, Holy smokes,

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<v Speaker 1>you think George Soros was influential, you think the Koch

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<v Speaker 1>brothers were influential, All these different figures on the left

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<v Speaker 1>and the right that have set up enormous networks of

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<v Speaker 1>super packs five on C four's five on C three's

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<v Speaker 1>interconnected webs of different kinds of organizations that influence policy

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<v Speaker 1>with think tanks, influence issue advocacy with five oh one

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<v Speaker 1>C four's issue they impact political campaigns through super pac spending.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think Leonard Leo is influential, if you think

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<v Speaker 1>the Koch brothers are influential, if you think George Soros

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<v Speaker 1>is influential, if you think Bill Gates is influential, Elon's

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<v Speaker 1>got more money than all of them. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>thought that this could be the most significant. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the most significant outcomes of the twenty twenty four election

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<v Speaker 1>was Elon Musk becoming a major political player, a major

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<v Speaker 1>player in American politics. Well, maybe he still will be,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's not going to be that for this iteration

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump and this iteration of the Republican Congress, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Elon engaged in a bitter war of words based

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<v Speaker 1>on Elon's distaste with the OBBB as I call it,

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<v Speaker 1>the One Big Beautiful Bill Elon thinks it's adding to

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<v Speaker 1>the deficits, adding to the debt, it's financially irresponsible. He

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<v Speaker 1>thinks it's I mean, the way he characterized it was

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<v Speaker 1>that it's revolting, it's horrible, and he then proceeds to

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<v Speaker 1>jump into bitter, vindictive blasting of Trump, you know, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump is in the Epstein files and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files weren't fully released. Now. In fairness, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is mentioned in the publicly known Epstein files as having

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<v Speaker 1>had had some kind of interaction with Epstein way in

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<v Speaker 1>the past. It wasn't particularly damning. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Elon kind of saying, well, I mean, Elon is very

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<v Speaker 1>much implying that Donald Trump is involved in the Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in a way that's much more insidious than what

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<v Speaker 1>is publicly known, which I doubt is true. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like Elon is kind of making that up. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm open to believe whatever, but I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is part of my skepticism about the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein files in general. I just don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 1>there there with the Epstein files. I think we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep talking about the Epstein file that reluse to Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think there is any smoking gun within

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein files, let alone a smoking gun about Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think Elon is just going off of the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Trump is mentioned in the publicly known Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>files and just wants to say something mean to Trump

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<v Speaker 1>because he's upset. Now the the what is the dispute?

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is I kind of see both sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the dispute, and I can see the reason behind both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>But the divorce is bad, and it's clear that I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Trump is probably the more reasonable person in

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<v Speaker 1>this whole dispute. Elon's not wrong. Yeah, it's fiscally irresponsible,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are aspects of the OBBB, as I call it,

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<v Speaker 1>that I think are terribly financially irresponsible. I think extending

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<v Speaker 1>the salt deductions, increasing the amount of state and local

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<v Speaker 1>taxes that people can deduct is unbelievably stupid. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a tax cut for rich people in blue states. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It is a tax cut for rich

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<v Speaker 1>people in New York and California. If you increase the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of state and local taxes that you're able to

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<v Speaker 1>deduct from your federal income tax burden. What you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>saying is that the stuff the federal government pays for

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<v Speaker 1>should be shouldered more so by people who live in red,

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<v Speaker 1>low tax states who don't have a very high state

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<v Speaker 1>and local tax deduction a burden, so they won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to take advantage of any salt deduction because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have income taxes. If you're if you live in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, okay, I have to pay my federal income taxes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have much in state and local taxes to deduct.

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<v Speaker 1>Florida doesn't have an income tax. Florida's thinking about eliminating

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<v Speaker 1>property taxes. So it's basically the salt deduction is we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna gather less revenue, which increases the deficit, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically shifting the burden of the federal budget onto red

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<v Speaker 1>states away from blue states. It's idiotic. There's way more

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to do to medicare, and the fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>problem this is the fundamental problem. The fundamental problem with

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<v Speaker 1>the One Big Beautiful Bill is it's not really touching

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<v Speaker 1>entitlement programs, and at some point someone needs to do

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<v Speaker 1>something to address entitlement programs. Medicare, Social Security, Medicare. It

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<v Speaker 1>does a little bit to means test Medicaid, maybe to

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<v Speaker 1>limit Medicaid eligibility for able bodied people who aren't working

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<v Speaker 1>other than the and the left is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute cow over it. And there are Republicans in

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<v Speaker 1>the House who may very well lose their seats because

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<v Speaker 1>they vote for it, like David Valadeo, because they have

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<v Speaker 1>a high number of medical beneficiaries. And you're already starting

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<v Speaker 1>to see political advertising against Valadeo for voting for this.

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<v Speaker 1>So they barely do anything to touch Medicaid, and people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to lose their seats, and the Left's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a cow. So I'm not disagreeing with Elon. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not disagreeing with Thomas Massey that this is a problematic

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<v Speaker 1>piece of legislation fiscally in a number of respects. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also think it's the best thing they could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>you do at the moment given the makeup of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And that's the problem. Their majority in the

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<v Speaker 1>House is so so narrow. They passed the OBBB by

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<v Speaker 1>like two votes. It was like two fifteen to two

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen or some ridiculously narrow margin like that. They have

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<v Speaker 1>no wiggle room in the House. They have to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to practically everybody. And it's Thomas Massey, the Republican House

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<v Speaker 1>member from Kentucky who's kind of out on his own,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a real fiscal the only like real fiscal hawk

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<v Speaker 1>who's like, I will not vote for this. And Massy's

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<v Speaker 1>not wrong, it's it's irresponsible. But also, I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>we want to enact any other part of Trump's agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>especially funding for border security measures and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the best we can do. It just is like,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we have the salt deduction because a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of Republicans from New York, the few Republican House members

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<v Speaker 1>from New York who could sink the whole bill if

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<v Speaker 1>they jump ship, the bill's not passing again because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a two vote narrow majority. If Republicans had a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty vote majority in the House, if they had a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty vote majority in the House, which they have had

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<v Speaker 1>at different points in the not so distant past, then

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<v Speaker 1>sure they wouldn't have to listen to them. They could

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<v Speaker 1>pass something that didn't include the salt deduction, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in twenty seventeen. They limited the salt deduction,

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<v Speaker 1>and Republicans from New York have been bellyaching about it

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, as have been Democrats from New York like

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Schumer. Chuck Schumer well to the epitome of the

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<v Speaker 1>phony Bologney liberal who really likes money and being comfortable,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Chuck Schumer. Yes, Liberalism, the political movement of

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<v Speaker 1>the little guy Schumer who's made reinstating the salt deduction,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the great civil rights movement of our time. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>But we have to listen to those Republicans because the

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<v Speaker 1>majority is so narrow, we have to listen to them.

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<v Speaker 1>So in short, I mean I just think I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I can see both sides, all right. I see Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>perspective that listen, I have a two year window where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to have a Republican majority in the House

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<v Speaker 1>and a Republican majority in the Senate. It is almost

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<v Speaker 1>certain that Republicans are going to lose the House in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. I mean there's you know, every off

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<v Speaker 1>year cycle, usually it winds up bad for the party

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<v Speaker 1>pass another reconciliation bill. And you know, really, so they

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<v Speaker 1>I completely see both sides perspectives. And I mean, Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>He's got you know what some people call screw you

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still gonna be a billionaire the next morning when

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up when we return. One comment Elon made

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<v Speaker 1>In the Trump and Elon Holy War debate that took

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<v Speaker 1>place on Twitter and truth Social yesterday, which this is

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<v Speaker 1>they're communicating from competing social media platforms, which has been ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Elon made one point that I thought was very significant

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<v Speaker 1>was Trump's gonna be around for only the next four years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be around for the next forty years. Choose wisely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a thing to think about. As I said in

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<v Speaker 1>most significant outcomes of the twenty twenty four election, beyond

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's victory itself, was Elon Musk entering the arena of

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<v Speaker 1>American politics. If Elon becomes this mainstay, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>as the Koch Brothers, as Leonard Leo is having as anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>five on one C four's to directly influence legislation, and

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<v Speaker 1>think tanks, education movements, et cetera. Elon has the capacity

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<v Speaker 1>to fund stuff like that, you know, ten times greater

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<v Speaker 1>than anything Charles Koch ever did, ten times greater than

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<v Speaker 1>had this one tweet where he said, you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>should remember Trump's only going to be around for four years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be around for another forty. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder about this, Like I have not been an unqualified

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<v Speaker 1>fanboy of Elon Musk. I think there's stuff he likes

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<v Speaker 1>and believes in, stuff that he's pushed Trump towards that

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<v Speaker 1>there going to arise maybe in twenty twenty eight a

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Elon tweeted the thing saying he wanted Trump

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of ridiculous. You know, we've been down

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<v Speaker 1>the impeachment road before. Maybe that person is JD Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Vance was clearly sort of the darling

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<v Speaker 1>come twenty twenty eight, and maybe, you know, maybe Vance

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I thought that was just the

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<v Speaker 1>Elon does. So I'm gonna follow that aspect of things

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<v Speaker 1>very carefully, all Right, when we return. President Trump's plans

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<v Speaker 1>to pull funding for high speed rail hits Fresno. That's

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<v Speaker 1>next on the John Girardi Show. So the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>under Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said that basically, we are

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary Duffy said the state quote has no viable path

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<v Speaker 1>quote delays, mismanagement, waste, and skyrocketing costs. Check check, check,

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<v Speaker 1>and check President Donald Trump. This is from the president

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<v Speaker 1>b story about it. President Donald Trump had signaled he

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<v Speaker 1>government toward the project, as he did during his first term,

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<v Speaker 1>but the region's officials said the federal money is urgently

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<v Speaker 1>course it is. They don't want it to be finished

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<v Speaker 1>because the whole thing is a black hole. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>on anyway without those funds. Officials expressed concern about more

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<v Speaker 1>the Central Value by twenty thirty three. Good lord, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three. Oh my gosh, we voted for the thing

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight. I don't think we thought

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<v Speaker 1>the legal challenges that have delayed this project. Instead, he

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<v Speaker 1>is stalling progress and killing good paying jobs to score

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<v Speaker 1>political points, said Representative Jim Costa. This is such an

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<v Speaker 1>it creates jobs. Okay. I could start a government program

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<v Speaker 1>And then they spend four hours filling the hole again.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they go home. Hey, what a wonderful government.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we give them a salary, a forty hour

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<v Speaker 1>we've created jobs. Baby, This is a job creation machine,

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<v Speaker 1>my government program, the ditch digging and ditch filling program.

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<v Speaker 1>What a wonderful idea, What a wonderful use of your

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<v Speaker 1>taxpayer dollars to help, you know, help create jobs. This

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<v Speaker 1>is great. Okay, job creation for public works programs is

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<v Speaker 1>wealth redistribution. It is an inefficient form of wealth redistribution

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<v Speaker 1>It's a waste of government money propping up the high

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<v Speaker 1>That's pointless. It's pointless if the end result is not

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<v Speaker 1>is actually going to benefit anything is terribly weak and

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<v Speaker 1>get on the road, As air travel develops more and

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<v Speaker 1>more and more. Okay, airports in California. Don't get smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>LA to Sanfordsco. They're not making it more expend I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>It'll lead to fewer flights to Los Angeles, or to

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<v Speaker 1>And again, with the proliferation of electric cars, here's California

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<v Speaker 1>do we do about the whole environmental motive behind the

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<v Speaker 1>One of the big pushing motives behind the high speed

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats who keep supporting the high speed rail to

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<v Speaker 1>the bitter end to this day, in spite of everything,

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of cost overruns and corruption. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>The Los Angeles Times has covered it extensively. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't think that. And by the way, the number

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<v Speaker 1>So if the same worker is still working on the

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<v Speaker 1>then runs with, we created two jobs. Well, okay, First

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<v Speaker 1>Wildly out of whack. If this is a job creation program,

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen years after voters approved the president Peace story goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen years after voters approve Proposition one A to fund

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<v Speaker 1>reviews are absurd. Officials at the rail authority say the project,

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<v Speaker 1>which aimed to connect San Francisco and Los Angeles via

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<v Speaker 1>bullet trains by twenty twenty, expects to launch service from

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<v Speaker 1>Mercenda Bakersfield between twenty thirty and twenty thirty three. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how can you write that with a straight faith and

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<v Speaker 1>not be like what a freaking disaster versaid to Bakersfield

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<v Speaker 1>by twenty thirty, twenty thirty three, with no idea, no

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<v Speaker 1>fathomable idea how to get from LA to San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>I still have not read a solid description. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>out there and I just missed it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>of how they intend to get over the grapevine. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you get over the grapevine? We can't do it

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<v Speaker 1>right now with Amtrak. Okay, if you try to take

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<v Speaker 1>amtrack from Fresno to La you know what you do?

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<v Speaker 1>You get to I don't know where you get to

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<v Speaker 1>Bakersfield or south of Bakersfield. You have to take a

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<v Speaker 1>bus over the Grapevine and then you get on a train.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause it's really hard to get over the Grapevine. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you get through? Are are we gonna blast through

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<v Speaker 1>the mountains? It's too steep to go, like over the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains and down the hill into the San Juaquin Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>Too steep for a train. So so what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>are we gonna do? It's unclear how the potential loss

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<v Speaker 1>of federal funds would impact high speed rail construction in

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<v Speaker 1>the Central Valley. Merced Mayor Matthews Dorado, So the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government should not reverse its funding commitments regardless of changes

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<v Speaker 1>in presidential administrations. Why I mean should the president should?

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<v Speaker 1>Should the executive branch just not be responsive to you know, elections,

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<v Speaker 1>the will of the people. He supports a phased approach,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with the Merced to Bakersfield line and expanding later

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. High speed rail is probably the best

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<v Speaker 1>way to travel, Serrato said, no, it's not. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of Merced saying that the high high speed rail

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<v Speaker 1>is probably the best way to travel by what possible metric.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, I'm in Fresno. I want to go to Bakersfield.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me describe the process between high speed rail or

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<v Speaker 1>going in my car. If I want to go to Bakersfield,

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<v Speaker 1>I get in my car, which is sitting in my

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<v Speaker 1>drive I turn it on, I drive two hours and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Bakersfield. While in Bakersfield, I even have the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to go to multiple different places and sits with

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<v Speaker 1>my own car, with the convenience of my own car.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I have a car, it's my own car. It

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<v Speaker 1>takes me two hours to get there. Sure, if I

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<v Speaker 1>do the high speed rail, though, here's what I gotta do.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to have someone. I've either got to drive

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<v Speaker 1>my car to and leave it parked at a high

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<v Speaker 1>speed rail station in downtown Fresno, or I need to

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<v Speaker 1>arrange with a friend to drop me off, or I

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<v Speaker 1>need to call an uber to drive me and drop

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<v Speaker 1>me off at the train station. I then take the train,

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<v Speaker 1>which is likely going to be faster, although I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's going to make stops in between. I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume it's going to be faster than driving in

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<v Speaker 1>my car, but how fast an hour? I mean? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>also note, if I'm going to take the train, I

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<v Speaker 1>probably need to get to the station at least thirty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes in advance. So that means to get from my

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<v Speaker 1>house to downtown Fresno, I probably need to leave like

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<v Speaker 1>fifty minutes before the train gets there. So even if

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<v Speaker 1>the train is you know, an hour to get too

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<v Speaker 1>from Fresno to Bakersfield, well, I still have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>fifty minutes before the train leaves to drive there. From

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<v Speaker 1>Clovise to downtown Fresno, making my total travel time essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the same. And then I wind up, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta take twenty minutes to get from close to

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Fresno. I gotta get there, you know, a good

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<v Speaker 1>half hour in advance, so that I don't miss the train.

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<v Speaker 1>I get on the train, I'm on the train for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. It's about an hour and fifty minutes. I

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<v Speaker 1>maybe save ten minutes. Then I'm in Bakersfield, and guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>I still got to get to wherever my final destination is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my final destination was not the train station. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do I do that? Well, hopefully it's destination's right

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<v Speaker 1>near the train station, I can walk there, but probably not.

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<v Speaker 1>I then have to call an uber and pay for

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<v Speaker 1>that and the cost of all of these things. Although

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<v Speaker 1>gas prices are ridiculously high, the cost of these things

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<v Speaker 1>is maybe higher than the cost of gas. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>undeniably a worse way of transportation than taking a car

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<v Speaker 1>by I mean, other than environmental impact, although if I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a hybrid or you know, an electric car, then no,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily worse Fresno. Now, when we return, we'll hear

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<v Speaker 1>what Jerry Dyer has to say about all this. Poor

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Dyer, I genuinely feel for it. He's like the

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<v Speaker 1>one person who kind of wants high speed rail that

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<v Speaker 1>I sort of feel some sympathy for. And I'll explain

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<v Speaker 1>why that's next on the John Girardi Show. Jerry Dyer,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, is the last Republican left in Fresno who

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<v Speaker 1>thinks high speed rail is worth it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because Fresno is already all the way in. Fresno

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<v Speaker 1>has sort of patterned its whole plans around downtown development

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<v Speaker 1>around a high speed rail station. Which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible strategic mistake, but one that they're sort of

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<v Speaker 1>committed to. Now. They're all in, so there's not much

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<v Speaker 1>they can do about it. So the news that the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration is going to pull about four billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in federal funding away from the high speed rail project

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<v Speaker 1>is coming as a blow to Jerry Dyer. He writes.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, the potential loss of federal funding for high

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<v Speaker 1>speed rail raises concerns for the city, quote where this

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<v Speaker 1>project plays a critical role in our future. High speed

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<v Speaker 1>rail isn't just about transportation. It's about connecting Fresno's people

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<v Speaker 1>and economy to the rest of California. It represents jobs, growth,

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<v Speaker 1>and long term opportunity for our Regent Dire said, I

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<v Speaker 1>encourage the High Speed Rail Authority to take the necessary

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<v Speaker 1>steps to address the findings and keep this transformative project

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. I mean, I sort of feel bad for

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<v Speaker 1>Dire because again, he's in for a penny, in for

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<v Speaker 1>a pound. I mean, he's in his whole plan for

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<v Speaker 1>downtown revitalization revolves around this high speed rail station that

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to build, which I just feel like is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be utilized. I feel like it's a big,

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<v Speaker 1>expensive idea, another kind of hair brained, expensive scheme for

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<v Speaker 1>revitalizing downtown president that I just don't think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to work. But he's in and he's now learning that

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<v Speaker 1>the rugs getting pulled out from under him by the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. So you know, I mean I sort of

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad for him, and you know, to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 1>this card was dealt to him before he became mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>but he certainly did nothing to course correct. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad situation. This. I just do not think

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<v Speaker 1>this high speed rail thing is ever going to get done.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea that the city pinned all its hopes

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<v Speaker 1>on downtown revitalization around a station, Yeah, it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>like such a bad idea that'll do it. John Dilready

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<v Speaker 1>shows you next time on Power Talk
