WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:05.919 Weird way. 2 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:22.199 Preach we can kill it. 3 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:24.519 Good time. 4 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:46.799 Shouting out their way us. What the hell are you. 5 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:54.880 Welcome back midnight viewers too? 6 00:00:55.399 --> 00:00:55.600 Yeah? 7 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:58.719 Oocha fest Oh my god, we're nearing the end of 8 00:00:58.759 --> 00:00:59.560 the road, aren't we? 9 00:00:59.679 --> 00:01:03.280 Hp Where the end? The finish line is in sight? 10 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:04.719 Fa them Malone. I'm so excited. 11 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:09.000 This is the end of one era of the Predator, 12 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:12.159 and now we've got a whole new sort of not 13 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:16.840 reboot necessarily, but a whole new creative direction going. Anyway, 14 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:19.239 what are we talking about today? We aren't talking about 15 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:20.719 the Predator. 16 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:29.040 Do you know what my job description is. I'm in acquisitions. 17 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.760 I look up and I catch what falls out of 18 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:36.760 the sky. 19 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:40.040 What's on the ship? 20 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:53.239 Tell me about the mission? 21 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:55.680 Did you see anything unusual? 22 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.560 It's above our vague work. I get a cookie. 23 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:06.959 Now, look, I get it. Something went down in Mexico. 24 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:09.439 Nobody wants any witnesses. 25 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:12.919 We need to know if you can your man pose 26 00:02:12.960 --> 00:02:19.199 a threat? We're rangers, Backsley. 27 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.479 If your mom's vagina were a video game to be 28 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:23.560 rated e for everyone. 29 00:02:25.080 --> 00:02:30.639 Isn't posing a threat? Kind of the fucking point? 30 00:02:42.319 --> 00:02:45.120 Credators just don't sit around making hats out of rib 31 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:50.400 cages the conquered space. But that's not what's. 32 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:51.039 On the horizon. 33 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:57.240 Sure, I'd be worried, Roy, I think you know what 34 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:09.360 is on the ship, The Ultimate Predators. 35 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:19.680 We may die, we're still here, so come and get us. 36 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:38.680 Motherfucker. That time modifier counts. This is the actual Predator. 37 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.520 This was released on September sixth, twenty eighteen. Actually this 38 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:46.560 was released on September the fourteenth, twenty eighteen. Written by 39 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.479 Fred Decker and Shane Black. Black and Decker their second 40 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.120 collaboration together, third technically, although they they're most famously known 41 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:57.439 for writing The Monster Squad. Together was also directed by 42 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.800 Shane Black. Shane Black, if you don't know, if you 43 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.800 have and listening to this show forever, it's a fucking 44 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:04.479 hero of mine, one of the greatest screenwriters of all time, 45 00:04:05.039 --> 00:04:08.879 not that that's necessarily on display here. Based on characters 46 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:12.759 my Jim Thomas and John Thomas, starring Boyd Holbrook, Olivia 47 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:17.360 Munn Keegan, Michael Key, Travante, Rhodes, Sterling, k Brown, Jacob Tremley, 48 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:23.120 Alfie Allen, Thomas, Jane and Avon Strahowsky. Cinematographer Larry Fong 49 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.680 shout out to him. He's always doing good work. HP. 50 00:04:26.600 --> 00:04:28.399 This is your first time with the Predator? 51 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:28.800 Was it is? 52 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:32.040 This is officially you were talking about we're graduating to 53 00:04:32.120 --> 00:04:35.959 this next era of the Predator franchise. This was I'm 54 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:39.639 graduating because this is my last Predator movie that I 55 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.639 had not yet seen, so that was pretty exciting for me. So, yes, 56 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:44.639 it was my first time seeing it. 57 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.279 What'd you think, a. 58 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:48.920 Lot of mixed feelings on this one, Father Malone. There's 59 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.800 quite a bit that's problematic, and ultimately I not to 60 00:04:52.839 --> 00:04:55.959 bury the lead, but I'm not sure this thing hangs 61 00:04:56.000 --> 00:04:59.639 together fully as a as a cinematic experience. There are 62 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:03.920 moments that I really enjoyed. There's moments that I didn't. 63 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:08.120 There's moments that I wondered what Shane Black was thinking. 64 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:12.839 But I will say this, I was pretty much always entertained. 65 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:14.399 This movie moves. 66 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.920 It's my second favorite Predator movie. That's what I discovered 67 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.120 this time. This is probably my third time watching it 68 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:23.959 so in the theater when it came out after long delays. 69 00:05:24.160 --> 00:05:26.560 Everyone this movie was delayed an entire year. I wonder 70 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:28.600 what could have been happening during that entire year. Was 71 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:30.560 just sitting on a shelf or maybe did they reshoot 72 00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.639 the entire last third of the movie. I think it 73 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.720 was the last part. HP What was the story that 74 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.959 we received for the Predator? 75 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.600 The story of the movie in a nutshell? 76 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:43.600 So some plot? 77 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:46.680 Okay, so we have yet it? Is there a plot? 78 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:48.240 There is a plot? 79 00:05:48.680 --> 00:05:52.120 Is there are several There's. 80 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:54.759 A lot going on, and frankly, there are times where 81 00:05:54.800 --> 00:05:58.959 it felt less like a Predator movie and more like 82 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:03.199 a kind of misfit army vehicle where they have to 83 00:06:03.199 --> 00:06:06.319 band together and that has its own charms. But anyway, 84 00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.680 the story of this movie, we have another, yet another 85 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:14.399 predator that's being chased to Earth by a larger predatorship 86 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:18.519 for reasons that will become clear later on. It crashes 87 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:22.120 on Earth and a sniper, an army sniper who's in 88 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:26.879 the middle of a hostage recovery, witnesses this engages the predator. 89 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.480 We have yet another agency that's been studying the predator 90 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:32.120 for presumably. 91 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:32.879 Years and years and years. 92 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:40.000 They take ownership of this predator that has survived the crash, 93 00:06:40.120 --> 00:06:43.519 all of his equipment. They send the sniper off. Basically, 94 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:46.199 they put him on ice. They send him to the 95 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:48.600 looney bin for lack of a better term, with a 96 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:52.120 bunch of other misfit soldiers that have various forms of 97 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:57.160 PTSD and other mental health issues. While this is all happening, 98 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:02.560 the sniper has sent the predators helmets and risk gauntlet 99 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.720 to his son so he can have evidence that he indeed, 100 00:07:05.959 --> 00:07:09.879 he did indeed encounter an alien. So we have this 101 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.839 government agency that is now trying to find these artifacts. 102 00:07:13.839 --> 00:07:14.879 They have their own predator. 103 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:19.360 They bring in Olivia Munn's scientist biologist to come and 104 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:23.079 help them study the predator. Things go wry, the predator escapes. 105 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:24.959 This is so interesting. What happens next? 106 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:31.439 It's hijinks happen. Next there's the father. 107 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:33.920 The sniper is trying to get back to his son 108 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:37.040 to you know, to because he knows the predator is 109 00:07:37.879 --> 00:07:40.680 tracking this these artifacts and trying to get to his 110 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.439 house to get his helmet back. Because apparently their own 111 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:46.920 equipment is very, very important to the predators. 112 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:50.439 They man, do not touch a predator's fucking armor. 113 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:51.720 Man, don't do it. 114 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:54.240 Don't ever borrow it, because they won't, you know, it's 115 00:07:54.279 --> 00:07:54.879 bad news. 116 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:58.680 So they're trying to don't spit into the wind. 117 00:07:58.879 --> 00:07:59.720 Won't spit into the wind. 118 00:08:00.120 --> 00:08:03.279 Step on no, don't pull the mask off that old 119 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:04.000 lone ranger. 120 00:08:05.000 --> 00:08:10.439 But most of all, yeah, don't touch predators, fucking dreadlocks. 121 00:08:10.360 --> 00:08:12.839 And don't mess around with Jim. But that's a story 122 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:13.519 for another day. 123 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:17.079 Jim Thomas, Jim Varney. 124 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:17.879 I think. 125 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:26.360 So there's so these misfit, lunatic soldiers are trying to 126 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:29.879 help the guy save his son. The government agency is 127 00:08:29.920 --> 00:08:33.279 on is tracking them, trying to get this predator tech back. 128 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:37.320 It's there's a lot of pursuit, a lot of gunplay, 129 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:41.879 not as much Predator as I would like. But again, 130 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:45.679 at times it's not such a bad thing because Shane 131 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:49.360 Black is, as you said, he's a great screenwriter. He 132 00:08:49.440 --> 00:08:52.799 knows how to write an entertaining screenplay, so I didn't 133 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:56.559 necessarily mind it. But at times I was left wondering, 134 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.159 could this have been just another an action movie without 135 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:01.879 the Predator kind of overlaid onto it. 136 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:03.919 Did you have any of those same thoughts for. 137 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.120 The mom I had all of those thoughts. Yeah, this 138 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:11.559 feels like several action movies playing at once. It can't 139 00:09:11.600 --> 00:09:14.759 really settle on which story is the most important, so 140 00:09:14.799 --> 00:09:17.120 it just tries to tell us all of them equally, 141 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:22.200 thus satisfying none of our needs. Overall, I like the 142 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:25.399 story of the soldier trying to get home to his 143 00:09:25.519 --> 00:09:30.120 kid and stranged wife because there's something he's done is 144 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:34.240 going to be visited an evil response to that, like 145 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.000 the Predator's going to come hunt them down, so now 146 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.559 he has to go say them. I like that story 147 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:39.600 a lot of like the interaction with his son and 148 00:09:39.639 --> 00:09:43.639 the wife, that whole plot. I love the misfit dirty 149 00:09:43.679 --> 00:09:47.840 dozen loonies fighting predators inexplicably, that's a really good plot. 150 00:09:48.080 --> 00:09:50.559 I like the government agency trying to figure out what 151 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.840 the fuck is going on while all these other groups 152 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.120 are going on. Any one of these stories could have 153 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:57.240 just been its own movie, right. 154 00:09:57.799 --> 00:09:59.960 I think part of it for me that the secret 155 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:03.480 weapon of this movie is for the most part, and 156 00:10:03.559 --> 00:10:05.960 I stress that for the most part, this movie has 157 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:10.960 cast really well. I love Sterling K. Brown as Traeger. 158 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:14.279 He's the leader of this team that's been studying the predator, 159 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:19.559 and he's so no bullshit and charming at times and 160 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:24.840 scary at times, ruthless. He's so effortlessly good. And the 161 00:10:24.879 --> 00:10:30.559 team of the lunatic misfit so soldiers is also really 162 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:33.480 really good. I was I didn't realize that Thomas Jane 163 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:35.840 was in this and I was pleasantly surprised to see 164 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:36.559 him pop up. 165 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.679 And I always count on the punisher, but when he 166 00:10:39.759 --> 00:10:42.440 shows up, you can definitely count on him, even if 167 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:46.080 he has to Rett syndrome. Sterling K. Brown should be Blade, 168 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:47.879 I haven't. 169 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.759 I've never thought of him in that role. I mean, 170 00:10:50.879 --> 00:10:53.080 I kind of made my peace with mahrscha la Ali. 171 00:10:53.480 --> 00:10:55.200 I think he still would have been very good. 172 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:59.120 You know why everyone's settled them mahershal Ali as Blade. 173 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:03.080 He's stoic and we now think of Blade as a 174 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.440 stomic character. Is Blade a stoic character? I mean he 175 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.919 was in that comic book adaptation in the nineties, certainly, 176 00:11:10.000 --> 00:11:12.480 but not the comic book character I read. He's pretty 177 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:16.000 gregarious at times, He's very Sterling K. Brown. Also, he's English. 178 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.320 Everyone should know. Does anyone know that Blade is an 179 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:20.159 English character? He's from English. 180 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:23.320 I didn't know that. I never read Blade. 181 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:25.720 I have Tomb of Dracula number one hanging on my 182 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:27.879 wall right here with the first appearance of Blade of 183 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.919 a sight. So yeah, I think Sterie K. Brown would 184 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:31.559 be a fantastic thing. But let's talk about some of 185 00:11:31.600 --> 00:11:35.399 the other lunatics here Alfie Allen inexplicably Irish part of 186 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:37.080 the American army. 187 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.879 That was a little odd, and to be perfectly honest, 188 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:42.840 he's the one that featured the least because I think 189 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:47.360 they he didn't get saddled with a very distinct marker. 190 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.360 Like you said, Thomas Jane has Turette's Keagan Michael Keys 191 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:55.279 is always making jokes. He's funny and a little crazy. 192 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.600 There's Nebraska, who is a chainsmoker and very laconic cool. 193 00:12:01.200 --> 00:12:04.279 The Irish guy, the Irish member of this team, as 194 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:07.759 you said, inexplicable. I wish they gave him more to do, 195 00:12:07.840 --> 00:12:09.480 but he just he's just kind of there. 196 00:12:09.960 --> 00:12:13.720 What's funny to me is I remember thinking that as 197 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:15.799 part of the too many plots, that we didn't really 198 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:19.320 get to know anybody, and I was disabused of that 199 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.519 rewatching at this time. This is the first time in 200 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.759 any of the Predator movies where we've stopped to get 201 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:27.240 to know the characters, and it's been interesting and I 202 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.960 wanted to know more. Probably the most well defined of 203 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.600 any of the teams, like I know things about these 204 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:36.559 characters at the end of the movie, whereas at the 205 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.080 end of the first Predator movie, I knew nothing going in, 206 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:40.559 I knew nothing about them going out. 207 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.519 But that works for the very first one though, because. 208 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:44.240 That's all we needed. 209 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:44.399 Then. 210 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:47.240 I'm just saying, yeah, the same amount of time, the 211 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:51.279 same amount of storytelling, and yet like this is actually 212 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.559 like a step above as far as the writing goes 213 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.879 as first what every Predator movie has been attempting to 214 00:12:55.919 --> 00:12:57.759 do since then, which is that we have to get 215 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.879 used to a whole new human team and follow them 216 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.559 as in their travails against the Predator or Predator and 217 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:06.960 alien combo. And this is the first time that I've thought, like, 218 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.720 I like everyone here, I'm comfortable with these characters. 219 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:13.399 Well, this is definitely the first Predator that had so 220 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:17.519 much humor in it. There might have been funny moments 221 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:20.480 in the first one and certainly the last one Predators, 222 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:23.840 there's a few funny moments. It's mostly played pretty stoically, 223 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:27.000 but this one, I would also I'm almost ventured to 224 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:31.039 say that the humor kind of outweighs the grimness. I mean, 225 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:34.360 there's a lot of death and maiming and destruction. 226 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:36.039 In this that is what it is. 227 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:40.279 But sometimes to the film's detriment. I think it's played 228 00:13:40.320 --> 00:13:42.080 a little bit too much for laughs. 229 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.039 I totally agree with that. It is definitely the funniest 230 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.360 of any of the Predator movies. But that's a guarantee. 231 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:50.080 When Shane Black is writing the script. You might come 232 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:53.879 up with plot inconsistencies, you might have problems overall with 233 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.080 structure or something, but you are never going to find 234 00:13:56.240 --> 00:14:02.120 a more quotable, funnier film than his like Lethal Weapon, 235 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:07.080 Long Kiss, good Night, Last Boy, Scout, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bank. 236 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.200 They're all fucking bangers man. 237 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:12.559 Agreed. Agreed to your point. 238 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:16.480 But to your point, yes, there are some scenes where 239 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:19.840 there should be some tension, but there is zero tension 240 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.080 because everyone is making jokes, and there are plenty of 241 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:27.240 times where they're joking around. Is more than necessary as 242 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.600 an escape valve and then as just a getting to 243 00:14:29.639 --> 00:14:32.080 know these folks kind of thing, but maybe not when 244 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:34.360 they're being attacked by Predator dogs. 245 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:39.120 Yeah, and kudos also for making the team of lunatics. 246 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.279 They're all pretty good guys. I was prepared for it 247 00:14:43.360 --> 00:14:46.120 to be more like, you know, some of these guys 248 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.600 maybe are a little dark around the edges, because at 249 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:51.799 a certain point in the movie they essentially rescue Olivia 250 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:55.679 Munn's biologist character. We'll talk about her and their character 251 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:58.000 in a minute. And I was very prepared for it 252 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.600 to be a little bit iffy because these are you know, 253 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:03.559 these are red blooded soldiers who have a screw loose. 254 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.240 I was a little worried for her character to be honest. 255 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:09.440 But it turns out they're all just really sweet guys 256 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:12.360 who have nothing but the best of intentions. I really 257 00:15:12.360 --> 00:15:13.559 appreciated that about this. 258 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:17.919 I will say this, I think Shane Black fell in 259 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.399 love with these characters because I mean, we'll spoilers everybody 260 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.000 you know that I need to say that with this 261 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:28.399 fucking show. But by the end we lose them. But 262 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:31.919 he's very precious about it. He doesn't. He waits until 263 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:34.720 he absolutely has to start kicking them lose. Before he 264 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:39.080 starts doing that, he keeps these guys inlive way too long. 265 00:15:39.559 --> 00:15:42.120 I mean, I'm not complaining. I think we needed more 266 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:43.799 of them. I think they should have been front loaded in. 267 00:15:43.840 --> 00:15:46.399 They should have been introduced earlier in the film, honestly. 268 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:49.799 But it's funny to me that if you compare it 269 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:52.519 to the first Predator movie, how quickly everyone starts dying 270 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:56.519 and how effortless. The predator starts picking them off one 271 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.720 by one, and here he holds onto them for dear life. 272 00:15:59.279 --> 00:16:04.159 He does, and he's also not he's not unwilling to. 273 00:16:04.480 --> 00:16:06.919 I mean, a lot of them die very heroically, and 274 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:09.159 I think that's to your point. I think it's because 275 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:11.759 he loves these characters so much he wants to give 276 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.200 them that heroic ending. But at the same time, he's 277 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:17.679 Shane Black is also not afraid to just have a 278 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.120 guy die for no good reason. Just you know, there's 279 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:23.039 to skip ahead a little bit. One of the characters. 280 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:25.399 I don't recall the character's name, but he's a long 281 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:29.240 haired misfit who's got a thing for Olivia Mun's character 282 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.480 a little bit at the end, they're trying to break. 283 00:16:32.519 --> 00:16:33.240 He's the pilot. 284 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.720 Okay, he really dies for no good reason that he's 285 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.600 on top of an alien ship. The shields power up 286 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.480 and his legs are effectively cut off by the shields 287 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.600 forming around his legs, and he just falls off the 288 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:47.840 ship and he dies. I don't know why, but I 289 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.120 kind of dug the fact that they didn't. He didn't 290 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:53.879 feel the need to give this this particular character a grace. 291 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:56.000 Note he just died for no good reason, and he 292 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:57.799 falls off the ship and that's it. He doesn't do 293 00:16:57.879 --> 00:16:58.639 anything heroic. 294 00:16:58.919 --> 00:16:59.720 I don't know why, but I. 295 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.559 Think we've grown to expect these guys to get a 296 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.640 nice tag, and a lot of them certainly do. 297 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:08.119 But as useless as that death is, and I agree 298 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.160 with you, like he is not afraid to have someone 299 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:14.119 die in an glorified manner. But when's the last time 300 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.799 you saw a force field turn on and cut a 301 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:17.640 guy's legs off? 302 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.279 It was pretty amazing, actually was you know, my jaw 303 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.640 was kind of left slack, and like, that is a 304 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:28.279 really inventive way to kill somebody off in a movie. 305 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:32.039 And another character has kind of, you know, flattened himself 306 00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.599 on the ship, so the force field is effectively above 307 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.079 him and he's kind of trapped in this you know, 308 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.480 two foot gap between the ship and the very Some 309 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:41.640 of the stuff is very creative. 310 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:42.200 CG. 311 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:44.119 Might be a little dodgy at times, as you would 312 00:17:44.119 --> 00:17:47.960 expect from a movie that's effectively almost ten years old now, 313 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:50.559 but pretty inventive and pretty creative at times. 314 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.519 The cig in that scene in particular was dodgy because 315 00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:55.759 that is that part of the movie that had to 316 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:59.559 be rejiggered there at the end. Yes, I that's part 317 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.400 of the movie that to be recombined there at the end. 318 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:02.880 I do not like the word rejiggered. 319 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.400 Yeah, recombined, I re Yeah, that's it seems it sounds problematic, 320 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:09.319 even though I know it's not the other thing that 321 00:18:09.799 --> 00:18:13.359 I did a little research, and apparently he was. Shane 322 00:18:13.359 --> 00:18:16.599 Black is very cognizant of maybe have because this is 323 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:19.200 an R rated movie, I believe, but he wanted to 324 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.920 have the option. It is, but he wanted to have 325 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.599 the option of a PG thirteen version of it. So 326 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.319 I think a lot of the CG blood I think 327 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:31.759 was practically done so that it would be easy to 328 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:34.839 wipe in, you know, for another edit, right, because you 329 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:36.920 could just basically delete that layer of blood. 330 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:39.920 Oh, that's exactly what happened. There are there were markets 331 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:44.119 with this movie was essentially a page without being a 332 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:45.920 PG thirteen was a PG thirteen. 333 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:46.519 But makes sense. 334 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.400 But this is when we watched Alien Versus Predator Requiem, 335 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:56.880 we noted how mean spirited the death seemed. These deaths 336 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:01.799 are way meaner and way more island, and yet did 337 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:05.359 not somehow seem exploitative. How is that possible. 338 00:19:05.279 --> 00:19:08.440 Because I think for the most part, you're right, there's 339 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:12.759 an awful lot of maiming and destruction in very creative 340 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:15.880 and violent ways. I don't know, I didn't really get 341 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.359 this sense because a lot of the deaths in Requiem 342 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:23.720 I think they read as harsh because these are flat 343 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.079 out innocents in a lot of cases. Case in point, 344 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:29.880 at very beginning, the hunter and his son get face 345 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:33.720 hugged and a chest You know, that's pretty awful to 346 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:36.440 have a child watch his own father die from a 347 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:37.119 chest burster. 348 00:19:37.759 --> 00:19:39.920 To me, if that's cruel in this. 349 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.240 There are I guess you can't. You know, it's not 350 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:48.480 especially cruel, But I don't know. It felt like most 351 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:53.240 everybody who had it coming got it particularly bad here, 352 00:19:53.319 --> 00:19:55.160 And that's maybe why I didn't have as much of 353 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:58.160 a problem with it, because it mostly seemed, and I'm 354 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.799 doing air quotes, justified this universe. 355 00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.119 So do you think one of the three guards that 356 00:20:04.440 --> 00:20:07.759 is guarding that one of the three guards that's looking 357 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.400 after Ivan Strahovsky when the ultra predator, when the super 358 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:15.480 Predator arrives, you think that guy deserved being basically slit 359 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:19.119 in half with the predator's knife and then there was 360 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:21.960 basically a fountain of blood that poured down into the 361 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.720 basement through which he had just broken through the floor 362 00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:25.480 or the ceiling. 363 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:28.319 Well, I mean, not to get all clerks on you, 364 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:30.640 but I don't think he deserves it any less than 365 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:33.680 a stormtrooper on the Death Star when it was destroyed. 366 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:36.279 I mean, he's part of the enemy. He's holding this 367 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:40.680 woman against her will for nefarious purposes. And we've seen 368 00:20:40.720 --> 00:20:44.599 Sterling Brown's characters not afraid to just say take them out, 369 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:47.960 So you know that these soldiers are prepared to go 370 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.839 that extra distance. So I wasn't Yes, in the moment, 371 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.400 maybe he is more innocent, but he had the potential 372 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:56.920 to be more problematic. 373 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.319 Excellent point. These guys will kill anyone on command, so 374 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:02.920 they deserve what they get. Plus, look, man, I'm being 375 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.119 Devil's ad good. I loved all the violence in this movie. 376 00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:08.400 It was gratuitous and requiem. That's my problem with it 377 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:10.960 because we talked about the scene in the hospital where 378 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:14.920 there's a pregnant woman who gets impregnated multiple times by 379 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:18.640 the pread alien hybrid. That just that to me is 380 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:23.359 gratuitous because it's she's a complete innocent in all of this, 381 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:27.400 whereas a soldier who has the potential to wipe out 382 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.319 a family at a moment's order, I don't feel as bad. 383 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.000 The one of the only deaths that I maybe thought 384 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:36.960 was maybe a little over the top was at one point, 385 00:21:37.119 --> 00:21:40.640 Boyd Holbrook, the guy plays a deck what's his name, McKenna, 386 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:44.119 His character is McKenna, his son who we're gonna we 387 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:47.160 gotta get into this. He's autistic and he's bullied at school. 388 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.720 He was sent the helmet in the risk Gauntlet because 389 00:21:51.079 --> 00:21:54.759 in the movies world he's autistic. He's able to figure 390 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:58.960 out the technology and actually hack into the operating system. 391 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:00.480 He goes out on Halloween. 392 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:03.960 He's got the Predator's mask taped to his face. It's 393 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:06.640 cartoonishly big on him, and. 394 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:08.000 He's got the risk off scene. 395 00:22:08.279 --> 00:22:09.119 It's a really good. 396 00:22:09.000 --> 00:22:11.640 Scene, and the bullies are just about ready to pounce 397 00:22:11.680 --> 00:22:13.799 on him and they're making fun of him. This little boy, 398 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.920 Jacob Trembley's character goes to a house to trick a treat. 399 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:21.720 They never answer, and this jerk up in the balcony. 400 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.720 The punk kid like in his early twenties, like you 401 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:25.680