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Speaker 1: All Right, so.

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Speaker 2: The ceasefire is kind of ceasing still, it's very shaky.

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The this is gonna be a big test. We got

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the talks scheduled for like another twenty four hours from

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now in Pakistan. Jd Vance spoke before he got on.

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I guess Air Force two to fly back from Hungary yesterday.

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I've got his comments about the negotiations because yesterday there

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was all this swirl about the Iranians ten point proposal

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that Trump said that the ten point proposal was a

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good framework from which to begin talks. And then Iran's

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got these ten points that they pushed out and media

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reported all over the place, and those ten points do

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not align with any of the fifteen and so everybody's

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left kind of scratching their head. But we may have

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an answer for this, all right, So some developments. First,

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President Donald Trump ordered military forces to remain deployed. He

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did this in a truth social post. He said, all

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US ships, aircraft, a military personnel with additional ammunition, weaponry,

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and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the

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lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded enemy

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will remain in place in and around Iran until such

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time as the real agreement reached is fully complied with.

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If for any reason it is not, which is highly unlikely,

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then the quote shooting starts end quote bigger and better

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and stronger than anyone has ever seen before. It was

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agreed a long time ago, and despite all of the

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fake rhetoric to the contrary, no nuclear weapons, and the

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Strait of Hormuz will be open and safe. In the meantime,

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our great military is loading up and resting, looking forward

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actually to its next conquest. America is back. Okay, So

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that's the president's tweet. Essentially hours after the ceasefire with

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Iran supposedly went into effect, Israel launched its largest wave

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of strikes against has bought. Code name of the mission

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is Eternal Darkness. Fifty fighter jets dropping one hundred and

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sixty bombs on one hundred targets across the country in

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ten minutes. They targeted command centers, intelligence, headquarters, rocket and

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naval units, as well as assets of.

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Speaker 1: The elite Radwan Force.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and then Iran said, hey, you can't do that,

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or else we're not going to go to the talks

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with you because you said it's a ceasefire, and Israel

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said not for us in Lebanon against Hesbala, which, for

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people who don't understand, like Hesbala is a proxy army

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that Iran funds and trains and deployed into Lebanon in

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order to colonize it, destabilize it and take make it

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over like it's a little mini Iran.

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Speaker 1: That was the plan.

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Speaker 2: There is still a functioning Lebanese government, but they were

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supposed to be disarming Hesblah after the two thousand and

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sixth war. I think they had some agreement in the

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Lebanese army was supposed to be saying like, hey, you

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can't have these weapons, you can't be hitting Israel and

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all of this stuff. And you know that didn't turn

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out so well, that didn't work at all. You got

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Hesbala's been launching rockets and missiles and drones at Israel,

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you know, since October seventh. So Israel now, according to

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Amit Siegal, who publishes a newsletter called It's Noon in Israel.

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He's a journalist over in Israel, he says, the Israeli

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lesson from October seventh is that intentions do not matter.

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Capabilities do. What does he mean by this, Well, for years,

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the idea ignored the terror monster rising on its borders

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and instead focused on whether the enemy intended to attack

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or whether it was in its interest to do so. Right,

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So they were like trying to think, you know, get

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in the minds of Hamas. In practical terms, what this

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means is that Iran says it's not going to sign

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a temporary cease fire, but it did. It said the

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straight up four moves would not reopen, but then it did.

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It did, And they actually published a map showing where

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boats should go because they mined some of the waters,

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so they put a big box of red like don't

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go into this area. I wasn't even sure that they

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had dropped any minds down there, but apparently Iran says

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they did, which is a war crime. Indeed, not hearing

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any any of the screams of war criminal from the

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people who've been screaming it for the last two days.

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Iran also swore to include ending the war in Lebanon

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and Hesbala suffered hundreds of casualties yesterday. This is what

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remains of the Iranian axis that once cast a long

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shadow across the Middle East, the Iranian victory image that

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is being encouraged by broad segments of the international media.

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They say that Iran survived ten rounds against the heavyweight

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world champion and they live to tell the tale. That's

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the narrative that Iran is pushing. And there are a

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lot of people that hate Donald Trump in places all

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over the globe, but here in America that are running

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with this narrative. I heard a caller call into Vince's

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show just before I got on the air, and he

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said that we've already lost, which like, there is no

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way you can look at what this operation has been doing.

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If you look at what the operation has been actually doing,

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who So here's a question for you. Has have the

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Israelis or or the United States hit any of the

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Iranian like the parliament. Have they hit any of these

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types of buildings like the seats of government power? I mean,

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they've been going after military installations, right, They've been going

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after IRGC, They've been going after iatolas, they've been going

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after nuclear programs, right, They've been going after the military

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industrial base. But they haven't touched sort of like the

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bureaucratic side of the Iranian government. Why is that? What

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are they trying to do? What is the purpose here?

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It's to create the friction that already exists between the

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quote unquote civilian government and the theocracy, the IRGC, the Iyatola,

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the Mullahs, right, which now it's becoming clearer that the

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Nepo Ayatola like that he's basically like in a coma

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someplace and they're they're doing a weekend at Bernie's deal

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so the IRGC can take control. So there is a

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there is a power struggle going on inside the Iranian

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regime right now. And people think there's this one government

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and there isn't there. There are like all these different

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factions because like all of these different Mullahs the clerics,

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they control different businesses and companies that make them a

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lot of money. They funnel their money through these companies

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to the IRGC to pay salaries, buy weapons, they send

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it to their proxy armies and all of that. So

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look at what we look at what we've been targeting.

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It's the things that Donald Trump laid out in the

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objective list, the thing that Marco Rubio said when he

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laid out the objectives as well, and they never said

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regime change. Trump's been saying, well, I guess it is

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a different regime because you know, there's a lot of

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people that were taken out. Okay, sure, I don't really

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buy that. But the friction point is between these two elements,

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one of which is obviously interested in talking to end

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the war. That would be the civilian government versus the IRGC.

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Who are you know, the true believers the Jihattist mindset.

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They're the ones that are opposed to any kind of deal.

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And yet what has now been acknowledged by Iran saying

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Lebanon has to be off the table. They have to

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be part of the ceasefire too. You can't be hitting Israel,

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can't be hitting Hesbala. That is an admission finally to

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what we all knew already, but Iran is finally now saying, Okay,

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you got to stop hitting them because they're with us.

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minutes ago, just as the show was getting ready to

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start here, Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Nintanyahu put out

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a statement saying, in light of Lebanon's repeated requests to

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begin direct negotiations with Israel, I instructed the Cabinet yesterday

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to open direct negotiations with Lebanon as soon as possible.

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The negotiations will focus on the disarmament of Hesbelah and

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the establishment of peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon. Israel

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appreciates the call made today by the Prime Minister of

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Lebanon to demilitarize Beirut.

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Speaker 1: That is a positive development.

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Speaker 2: You black pillars, Oh my gosh, we're losing hmm.

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Speaker 1: You got the Lebanese government.

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Speaker 2: Gonna work with Israel to to finally newter Hesbala on

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the border. That's a positive development after an Operation Rising Lion.

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That's not what this one is. Rising Lion was the

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Twelve Day war. After that, every available Iranian dollar was

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invested in rebuilding the ballistic missile array, seen as the

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only effective deterrent for Israel. The result was a relatively

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quick recovery for the Iranians, but also enormous public anger

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that was suppressed at the cost of massacre. Right, this

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is when the Iranian people took to the streets. Their

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economy was crashing and they had just been attacked, and

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all the money is being siphoned off to rebuild the

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ballistic missile programs and stuff, and people took to the

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streets in opposition and they were slaughtered by the tens

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of thousands. Now there is way more that Iran has

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to rebuild, and fewer dollars because the money generating enterprises

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that were dual use that were being used to build

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the missiles, the drones, right, the fuel, all of that

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stuff is now destroyed.

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Speaker 1: And so what are you going to spend your money on?

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Speaker 2: First, if you're Iran And this is what the quote

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unquote civilian government. This is what they're looking at. Reportedly,

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they're looking at like, well, even if we remain alive

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and still like in power, how do we recover where

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we got all the sanctions that Trump put on us

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last year that helped to crash the currency. And now

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we have all this stuff we have to rebuild. We

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got bridges to rebuild, we got rail lines to rebuild. Right,

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we have all of this, all of these needs.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to? What are you gonna send

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your money on?

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Speaker 2: Should it buy a new navy, buy a new air force,

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invest in missile production again, rebuild Hesbelah, which is groaning

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under a heavy deficit, or invest domestically to try to

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calm down your population whose situation has only gotten worse.

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And then there's the Gulf states all around you that

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were attacked by Iran. They've been taught a lesson too.

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They're not going to forget this. They are not Israel.

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They're not accustomed to rounds of fighting every year or

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two generations of Emiradis, Qataris and Saudi's. They will now

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carry the trauma of running to unprotected spaces. While tourism, stability,

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and energy went up in flames. Yeah, Israel, right, all

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of their building codes require you to have a bomb

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shelter like people have. Like people know where their bomb

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shelters are. They rush to the shelters they do, like

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this is a part of life for it. These other

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countries don't have that, and they got a taste over

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the last month, they got a taste of what the

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Israelis lived through at the hand of Iran. The state's

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most critical assets have been reduced to rubble. Iran's military industry,

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it's steel production, the petrochemical plants that served as their

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economic lifeline. They've all been crippled, offering no near term

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recovery capability unless the regime is overthrown by its own people.

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Speaker 1: This is not the end, though.

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Speaker 2: Over in Lebanon, Operation Eternal Darkness, ten minutes, fifty fighter jets,

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one hundred and sixty bombs targeting one hundred targets.

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Speaker 1: Why why now?

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Speaker 2: A couple reasons, according to Amid Sigaal Number one. With

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the ceasefire Israel, they've got all these fighter jets that

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now are not flying over Iran. So oh and by

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the way, one note there they've been flying over Arab

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country's airspace, which is something you would never have thought

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possible twenty years ago. So you got all these fighter

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jets now they can run this mission into Lebanon. The

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strikes also serve as a definitive statement that Israel interprets

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the ceasefire to not apply to Hesbellah. And if Trump

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was going to impose a ceasefire on Israel into Lebanon,

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if he was going to do that to try to

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get the Iranians to the table, well, Israel wanted to

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ensure that at least it delivered this devastating blow first.

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the strait of Warmus again. That's it, because if Hesbelah

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is not going to be protected, then we're going to

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close the straight And why even bother talking and all this,

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problem with the IRGC doing its weekend at Bernie's, with

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the Ayatola sidelining and doing sort of a coup against

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the civilian leadership. Well, who are we negotiating with? Who

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actually has the power? Again? Driving a wedge between these

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different factions inside of the leadership ranks who are now

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looking at each other like well, are you cutting a deal?

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Why are you willing to cut a deal? Who's been talking?

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Who's been leaking? This is There are multiple layers to

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text line, Jack says, what happened with the meeting yesterday

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between Trump and the UN? I'm not aware of a

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meeting between Trump and the UN. He had a meeting

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with ATO and before that meeting with the NATO chief

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Mark Rudy Routti whatever. Before that meeting, Trump had said

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I think he socialed it out. He was like, like,

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what's the point of being in NATO, Like, we're going

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to discuss getting out of NATO with the NATO chief.

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And so he has the meeting and here's what Ruddy

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said moments ago. When it came time to provide the

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logistical and other support the United States needed in Iran,

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some allies were a bit slow, to say the least.

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In fairness, they were also a bit surprised. To maintain

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the element of surprise for the initial strikes, President Trump

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opted not to inform allies ahead of time. But what

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I see when I look across Europe today is allies

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providing a massive amount of support nearly without exception. Allies

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are doing everything the United States is asking. They have

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heard and are responding to President Trump's reques US. Okay,

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can we fly over your freaking country now? Can we

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land at our bases that we paid for?

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Speaker 1: Can we do that? How about that? Like that to

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me is the bare minimum.

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Speaker 2: But the yeah, I'm not buying I'm not buying this,

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Like the European allies not very ally behavior the Gulf

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coast countries, they're actually doing more. I mean, Iran was

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complaining that after the ceasefire was announced that they got hit.

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Speaker 1: There was an attack on Levon Island and they were like,

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you guys did it?

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Speaker 2: You guys did in Israel and America were like, no,

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we didn't, we didn't do that. And now it turns

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out that was carried out by Mirage fighter jets used

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by the United Arab Emirates. Yes, the UAE, which is

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a little bit so that Iran has been flinging hundreds

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or thousands of missiles and drones into their country and

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hitting their gas and oil production facilities. So yeah, they

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were a little salty at that. The UAE says it

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will seek clarification on the terms of the ceasefire agreement

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to find out like does this cover us, and the

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US says, yes.

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Speaker 1: You're not allowed.

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Speaker 2: Iran's not allowed to hit you guys, and you guys

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can't hit them, and so far that seems to be

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holding so far. Qatar's foreign minister has discussed the ceasefire

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with the Saudi Arabian counterpart. They also emphasized the importance

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of protecting maritime routes and ensuring freedom of navigation. The

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foreign ministers of Iran and Saudi Arabia also spoke by

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phone to discuss developments. Iran's nationwide internet blackout has entered

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its forty first day. That is a record. It's unprecedented.

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God only knows what we're going to see when when

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communications return there. Turkey sorry, Turqua is how they want

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it pronounced now said It raided Islamic state networks nationwide,

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detaining nearly two hundred people following that gun battle that

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occurred outside of the Israeli consulate in Istanbul by three attackers.

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Speaker 1: What else here?

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Speaker 2: Regarding the Strait of Hormuz, Trump has issued a deadline

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for European allies to commit tangible military assets to the

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Strait of Hormuz, including naval deployments. According to Dershspiegel, the

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German publication, Mark Ruddy told member states that earlier political

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commitments are no longer enough. They actually have to guard

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the waterway that they rely on, so Iran cannot do

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to them again what they're doing now right. Iran has

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released an official map of required shipping routes. It shows

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vessels must travel closer to Iran's coast and confirms for

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the first time that usual routes are now considered dangerous

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due to the risk of naval minds. What about the uranium,

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Benjamin Nton Yahoo said, quote the enriched uranium will completely

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come out of Iran and it will be then either

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by agreement or by renewing the war. Iran's nuclear chief

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had said that demands by adversaries to limit the country's

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uranium and Richmond program would fail. The head of the

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Atomic Energy Organization of Iran said such calls were quote

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wishful thinking and would not stop. Could not stop Iran's

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nuclear activities. Quote no law or individual can stop us,

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said Mohammed ISLAMI. How much of that is the saving

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face bluster?

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Speaker 1: Don't know.

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Speaker 2: Regarding Lebanon, Iran is warning that if Israel does not

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halt it strikes in Lebanon, it's going to walk away

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and riding to Iran's defense were the European countries, the UK,

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the French and Australian leaders, I think Germany and I

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think everybody at this point they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Lebanon too, that's got to be included in the ceasefire

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deal with Iran and Lebanon. Their leader was like, whoa,

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any discussion about ceasefire agreements in Lebanon will not be

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negotiated by anybody other than Lebanon. Like, this is our country.

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What are you guys doing. We're not part of the EU.

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You don't speak for us. The US Iran ceasefire according

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to the EU Foreign policy chief Kadjak Karas, She says

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it should be extended to Lebanon. Hezbelah dragged Lebanon into

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the war, but Israel's right to defend itself does not

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justify inflicting such massive destruction. Oh, we're back to the

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proportionality argument. Look, Israel, you need to suffer, you know,

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a couple hundred, maybe a couple thousand rockets and drones

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into your residential areas and cities and stuff. You need

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to just live with that and spend a whole bunch

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of money on your systems to take out all of

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these missiles. That's just the price of being a Jew.

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I guess I don't know, because you cannot try to

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eliminate all of the networks in the because Hesbala dug.

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Speaker 1: They dug tunnels.

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Speaker 2: All along the border with Israel so they can hide

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their rocket munitions. They could pop out and send a

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bunch of rockets go back underground, right, this is their tactic.

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And so Israel blew a bunch of the tunnels up,

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took out a whole bunch of THEIRS leadership again, and

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so Lebanon needs to step up now, like, if you

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want this Iranian proxy terror eliminated from your borders, you're

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gonna have to do something about it, all right. If

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you're listening to this show, you know I try to

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keep up with all sorts of current events, and I

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know you do too, And you've probably heard me say

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get your news from multiple sources.

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Speaker 1: Why.

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is

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Speaker 1: Let's go over here and chat with Dean. Hello, Dean, Hi, Pete, Hello, Hey.

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Speaker 3: I had two questions, and one was I don't understand.

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I'm glad we can track this pilot and figure out

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exactly where he is and pick him off. And yet

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it seems like the Straits all of a sudden don't

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go here because there's minds they plant in minds. Don't

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you know we seem so sophisticated in some areas and

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not in others. Or am I just interpreting it wrong?

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Speaker 1: I did an entire.

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Speaker 2: Hour on the Strait of Hormuz asking the question of

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why we haven't opened it yet, and like, do you

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think that we are incapable of opening it?

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Speaker 3: The one the most logical thing I heard is that

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actually China gets eighty percent of their flow of oils

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straight and if we were to destroy the infrastructure, then

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they are China would have to be drawn into the

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conflict and you know, take a position, and then things

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could really unravel and our relation, you know, our wars

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supposedly more with Iran than it is with China.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's also so if you've got all of these other

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regional and international actors that benefit from the strait being opened,

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but they're not willing to do anything to keep it open.

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This is Trump basically the same message he sent Tonado, right,

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which is, why are we allied with you? If you're not,

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if you're not going to provide any of your own security,

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you're not going to put any skin in the game, right,

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Because I mean, I think if we wanted to, we could,

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the military could. I think that's very clear from what

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we just saw in the last five weeks. So then

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there becomes a there becomes a larger question then of well,

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what is the benefit to increasing pressure for leverage in

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allowing the Strait to remain closed? And I went over

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all like because it goes into maritime policy, the overhaul

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of the navy that Trump has been trying to do,

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but he's being blocked by China's lobbyists, members of Congress.

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Speaker 1: You got oil.

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Speaker 2: Producers, you got all these different actors, and of course

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the big insurance companies, Like that's the main people think

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that like vessels are getting you know, hit and they're

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exploding all over the place, and that's not what's happening.

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The insurance carriers are refusing to ensure the vessels going through.

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And so the if the United States is able to

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break that monopoly of the insurance carriers, right then we

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become the center of maritime shipping instead of London, which

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is incapable.

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They sent out one boat the other day and it

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had to return because there uh they're water purifier systems

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uh failed on the boat. Like they don't have an

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avy anymore, they're a coastguard.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know it's as it has been, as it

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is and as it will be, but it just seems

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like the strategic thing that everybody's talking about is not

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really at the crux of the matter. It should be

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to you, you know, political and it should be all

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of those things should be what we should be explaining

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so we understand.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't want if if, if there are all sorts

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of other dynamics and and concessions at play here, then

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I don't. I don't think you should be negotiating that

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through the media or through tweets.

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Speaker 3: No, but if we understand the situation and it's you,

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we're not. We're not mediating it. We're just trying to,

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you know, give a good picture of it. You know

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what the actual issues are. That's what we're here for.

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been doing for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would say, go to the peak pod

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dot com and go look up. It was last week

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I did an episode on One of the hours I

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talked about here was on all of the different factors

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regarding the maritime.

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Speaker 1: Policy, the overhaul of the navy. Right.

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Speaker 2: One of the things Trump wanted to start building when

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he took office was the Golden Fleet. These massive ships

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and what are they designed for? Choke points like That's

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the key is who controls all of the choke points.

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I appreciate the cal Dean, but I think it was

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yesterday or day before Putin sent one of his naval

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vessels down the British Channel, like just completely unmolested, just

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going to cruise right through. Like Britain can't control its

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own territorial waters. These choke points all around the globe

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are vital for commerce. And if we are not going

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to do the policing, you see what happens when we don't, right,

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You see, like bad actors go in there, they control

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the choke point, they shut down trade, they wreck the

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global economy. Right, oil flows dry up. So who do

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you prefer police the choke points? Because they have to

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be capable and willing to do so, and what we

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have seen so far is nobody really seems able or

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willing to do it. So you want China to run

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the choke points because you know what they're gonna do, right,

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They're going to control them. They'll charge tolls, they'll extract

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concessions from countries, They'll use it as further leverage to

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spread their communist ideology and become more and more powerful. Right,

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the people who want us to fail at this are

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also the people who want a quote multipolar world, which

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is a degradation of America's status and I'm not on

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board with that. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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