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<v Speaker 1>This is the sound going to restore law and order

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<v Speaker 1>of America. Returning to factory settings. Fifty five krc P

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<v Speaker 1>Talkstation eight o five, the fifty five KRCD talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>It is that time of week. We talked money, money

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<v Speaker 1>Monday with Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>James from Allworth Financial.

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<v Speaker 3>Got some good topic to talk about and of course

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<v Speaker 3>number one on the list there tariffs, tariffs, tariffs. Brian James,

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<v Speaker 3>welcome back to the morning show. It's always good having

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<v Speaker 3>you on the program.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's always good to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's always good to have a batch of headlines

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<v Speaker 4>from the weekend to discust, don't we.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that the truth? And were talking about gross domestic

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<v Speaker 3>product and four point twenty five to four point five

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<v Speaker 3>percent in terms of the FED and its rates, and

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<v Speaker 3>sadly the third topic really is so concerning to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Young families can't able, it can't afford to buy a home.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's dive onto the terroriffs. And if you look

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<v Speaker 3>at the White House dot gov fact sheet in case

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<v Speaker 3>people aren't really aware of exactly why Donald Trump with

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<v Speaker 3>tariffs on Canada and Mexico and China. He cited fentanyl

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<v Speaker 3>and the borders, the illegal immigration. Those are the two

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<v Speaker 3>main things that he is he's promoting these tariffs for. He's,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, shut down the borders or help us with

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<v Speaker 3>border security and quit shipping fentanyl into our country, declaring

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<v Speaker 3>a national emergency based on that under the International Emergency

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<v Speaker 3>Economic Powers Act. I guess I have to ask out loud,

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<v Speaker 3>not knowing really anything about the International Emergency Economic Powers Act,

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<v Speaker 3>is this something that could be subject to legal charge

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<v Speaker 3>or illegal action or Congress could step in and take

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<v Speaker 3>them away.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, I really don't know that. I'll stay out loud. Brian, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, And I think that there's a lot of us

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<v Speaker 4>who aren't clear exactly on what the what the legal

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<v Speaker 4>implifications are of these decisions, because sometimes we hear that

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<v Speaker 4>decision was made and executive order was issued, and somebody

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<v Speaker 4>else will say, wait a minute, that's completely illegal. In

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<v Speaker 4>some cases they've been declared unconstitutional. But nobody has stepped

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<v Speaker 4>up and actually on any of those perceptions of these

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<v Speaker 4>executive orders. So this is a president we've seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously we know he's willing to push the envelope. He

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<v Speaker 4>certainly is this time around, with kind of nothing to lose,

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<v Speaker 4>as a basically a lame duck under current rules because

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<v Speaker 4>he can't run for election again. So yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 4>we've been seeing. And everything has come fast and furious

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<v Speaker 4>sins inauguration.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and it's going to be across the board. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how anybody can say that this will not

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<v Speaker 3>have an in fact on prices. I mean, you're raising

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<v Speaker 3>you're putting tariffs on these goods. I think necessarily the

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<v Speaker 3>price is going to be passed along to the consumer.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a huge swath of goods. I got a

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<v Speaker 3>kick out of some of the ones that the Wall

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<v Speaker 3>Street Journal identified, like cherry tomatoes, Tanka trucks. They mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>this specifically because they're all made in China, but they

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<v Speaker 3>also pointed out that more than eighty percent of toys

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<v Speaker 3>sold in the United States are made in China. Maple syrup,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, tap your own maple trees in the backyard

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<v Speaker 3>like we did, I guess, tequila, avocados, smartphones from China

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<v Speaker 3>subject to a ten percent increase in tiffin in the

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<v Speaker 3>last one. I really got a kick out of sledgehammers

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<v Speaker 3>made in China. Sledge hammers are already subject to a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent import tax. Although we do have some

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<v Speaker 3>sledgehammer manufacturers here in the United States, but it goes

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<v Speaker 3>way beyond those ones that were identified.

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<v Speaker 4>It does. Now hold on one second while I check

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<v Speaker 4>sledge hammer futures.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think know that that's that is a fascinating list,

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<v Speaker 4>and you'll you and I could go find another article

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<v Speaker 4>right now that'll have twenty seven other products that you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't just mention. So I think that's that. This this

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<v Speaker 4>is what what you know, what we've been calling it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, over the weekend you're starting to hear the

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<v Speaker 4>words trade war. Other countries are now calling it a

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<v Speaker 4>trade war. So this, this is very much so the

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<v Speaker 4>president delivering on the promises that he made. Now, one

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<v Speaker 4>thing he didn't seem to have mentioned until now is that, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, this is going to cost us. As

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<v Speaker 4>you were hinting, prices are going to go up. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no way to avoid that. Over the weekend he said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>price must be paid, but the end result will be

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<v Speaker 4>all worse that but but there could be some pain

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<v Speaker 4>in the near future here. So he didn't really mention

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<v Speaker 4>that during the campaign. That's obviously not something you expect

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<v Speaker 4>to gain any votes by really shining a light on

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<v Speaker 4>But there is no way to slap tariffs on companies

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<v Speaker 4>who are looking to make a profit and force those

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<v Speaker 4>companies to only take it out of their profits. They're

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<v Speaker 4>going to raise prices. This is the United States of

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<v Speaker 4>profit margin companies who are having to deal with these costs.

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<v Speaker 4>And it might might it might be a company that

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<v Speaker 4>you perceive is an American company, but they may be

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<v Speaker 4>bringing parts in from to build. Cars are a great example.

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<v Speaker 4>For one, part inside of a car may literally go

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<v Speaker 4>back across the border of Canada and or Mexico several

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<v Speaker 4>times before it lands in its final car. So it

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<v Speaker 4>may be an American brand. You may be buying it

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<v Speaker 4>from what you feel is in an American dealership, but the

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<v Speaker 4>parts in it could be coming from multiple countries that

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<v Speaker 4>will all add up and wind up on that windowsticker.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and to some effect, the the threat of terrorists

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<v Speaker 3>has kind of worked, I know in terms of repatriating

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<v Speaker 3>some of the illegal immigrants. Some certain countries have said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll take them back under threat of Donald Trump retaliating

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<v Speaker 3>against him. And is that really the impact he's looking for?

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<v Speaker 3>And again going back to the fact sheet. This is

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<v Speaker 3>purely based upon FENTONYL and illegal immigration. Now, we, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>to a large degree, can control the border because obviously

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<v Speaker 3>they're cracking down on it already. We did have a

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<v Speaker 3>more secure border in prior administrations, but more resources went

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<v Speaker 3>down there for walls and security and warm bodies in

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<v Speaker 3>the form of ice agents. I think you could curtail

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<v Speaker 3>one of the two identified problems to a large extent.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Canada represents a more sizable challenge, considering that is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much a wide open border, and it is a

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<v Speaker 3>big one. But I guess I'm just wondering what resources

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexican government could even bring to bear since their

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<v Speaker 3>country is largely controlled by And feel free to disagree,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's been my conclusion over the years that the

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<v Speaker 3>CAR tells they have a substantial amount of power in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>and here's Trump trying to take away one of their

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<v Speaker 3>primary sources of income, which is drugs and varying illegal

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<v Speaker 3>immigrants to the southern border, right, And I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think you raise a great point in terms of there's

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<v Speaker 4>there is a lot of enforcements, or at least much

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<v Speaker 4>more on the south side than there is on north side.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think when when we when we uh lay

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<v Speaker 4>a levy energy tarists, for example, against Canada, and not

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of people know this. I think it's becoming

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<v Speaker 4>a more popular news item where people are going, huh,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know that Canada is the largest of among the

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<v Speaker 4>countries the United States brings in oil from Canada is

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<v Speaker 4>the largest one. So that that so obviously we were

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<v Speaker 4>trying to poke them in the eye. Of course, that's

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe there's better ways to handle up. That's effectively

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<v Speaker 4>what we're doing to get their attention on the fentanyl issue.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think also what's underlying this to me, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the first shot across the bow of we want

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<v Speaker 4>to be producing much more. We want to import less

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<v Speaker 4>and produce more domestically. So first off, let's just make

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<v Speaker 4>domestic oil more expensive. However we can do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>we'll call it fentanyl, and we'll call it illegal immigration

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<v Speaker 4>or whatever. But let's just slap oil tariffs on Canada.

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<v Speaker 4>That will force us to say, hey, imported oil is

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<v Speaker 4>more expensive. It's going to drive the price up. That

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<v Speaker 4>will get the attention of the domestic drillers and the

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<v Speaker 4>drill baby drill thing. Right now, domestic oil companies don't

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<v Speaker 4>really want to drill so much. They're not super excited

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<v Speaker 4>about it because oil prices are not that high. If

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<v Speaker 4>we drive it up, this is Trump's thinking. I believe

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<v Speaker 4>if we drive that price up, they'll be more attracted

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<v Speaker 4>to go drill. And take into account the executive orders

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<v Speaker 4>he has put out there over the past few weeks

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<v Speaker 4>to make drilling easier. Right now, the profit isn't there

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<v Speaker 4>for them, but based on oil futures from last night

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<v Speaker 4>that bounced about two percent to the upside, it looks

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<v Speaker 4>like it's going to go more attractive for him.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and doesn't this sort of fly in the face

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<v Speaker 3>of rebuilding or are going back to build the Keystone

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<v Speaker 3>XOL pipeline because that brings oil from Canada into the

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<v Speaker 3>United States?

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<v Speaker 2>Right correct?

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<v Speaker 4>And now I haven't heard him mention it's not in

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<v Speaker 4>a very very long I know. I know, so I

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<v Speaker 4>think I don't think that's a major priority for him.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a hot point because I think that was

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<v Speaker 4>a poke in the eye to the to the liberal

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<v Speaker 4>side that wanted that shut down because of it for

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<v Speaker 4>environmental reasons and so forth, But that was never really

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<v Speaker 4>his objective. I think his objective is for more domestic oil.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why we haven't heard the word keystone all

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<v Speaker 4>through this. I haven't heard that since the since the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and in terms of and I understand, maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>motivating force behind increasing the price of Canadian oil in

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<v Speaker 3>the United States is exactly what you said. But those

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<v Speaker 3>projects don't come online very quickly. I mean, it takes

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<v Speaker 3>a while to ramp up a drilling project, doesn't it exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why that's the pain he's talking about. He

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<v Speaker 4>can't talk about pain when he's trying to win an election.

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<v Speaker 4>Candidate Trump doesn't have to talk about that. President Trump

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<v Speaker 4>has to give us a heads up that hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>might hurt for a little while, so that six months later,

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<v Speaker 4>when a little while is still happening, because we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>started much of this domestic production yet, he can say

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<v Speaker 4>I told you about this way back in February. It

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna hurt. We got to pay the price, good, bad,

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<v Speaker 4>and different. That's the reality that we're current in, currently in.

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<v Speaker 3>And going back to my question about you know, legal challenges,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we currently have a trade agreements and or

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<v Speaker 3>trade agreements in place with Canada and Mexico. Didn't Trump

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<v Speaker 3>negotiate that when he was president the first time around.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, there's a lot of things he did when he

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<v Speaker 4>was president the first time around that that don't seem

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<v Speaker 4>to hold any bearing. Now look at all the people

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<v Speaker 4>he appointed that now he's firing. A lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>firings you're hearing are his own people from six eight

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<v Speaker 4>years ago. So I don't know that history necessarily means

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<v Speaker 4>much of anything. It's just the reality of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>What do I need to do about it? The history

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<v Speaker 3>is irrelevant, it sure is. And going back to the

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<v Speaker 3>whole idea about drugs. You know, drugs have been coming

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<v Speaker 3>into this country, I mean since before I was born.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the demand that is the problem. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 3>we weren't a nation of a bunch of addicts and

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<v Speaker 3>cravers of drugs, then this wouldn't even be an issue.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that's a simple statement to make, but Lord almighty,

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<v Speaker 3>Monday thing with all our financials Brian James, all Right,

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<v Speaker 3>is the R word going to come up in our

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<v Speaker 2>Brian James.

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<v Speaker 3>A Federal Reserve holding interest rate to four to a

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to say the R word. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to jinx anything, so fair enough, but we would

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<v Speaker 4>not not looking so bad at the moment we do.

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<v Speaker 4>We do seem to be slowing down. So so fourth

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<v Speaker 4>quarter GDP came in at two point three percent. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a deceleration from last quarter, which is three point one percent.

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<v Speaker 4>These are all annualized numbers, so we do is we

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<v Speaker 4>it by four, and we declare that to be what

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<v Speaker 4>the what we think the economy would do over a year.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're falling a little bit short of the economists

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<v Speaker 4>want two point wanted two point six percent, so we

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<v Speaker 4>fell a little bit short of that. Things seem to

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<v Speaker 4>be slowing. I do think some of that could be

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<v Speaker 4>accounted for by the idea that, especially toward the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the quarter, companies may have been backing off a

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<v Speaker 4>for this inauguration to occur and to see what's coming

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<v Speaker 4>here and first quarter in darn it all, we sure

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<v Speaker 4>are seeing it here in the short run. So Federal

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<v Speaker 4>Reserve as for their position. They held the interest rates

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<v Speaker 4>target right now four and a quarter four and a

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<v Speaker 4>half percent. This wasn't a big surprise. We kind of

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<v Speaker 4>has said he wants to see how the economy is

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<v Speaker 4>going to respond to the different changes coming out of

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<v Speaker 4>the Trump administration like tariffs. Yeah, such as the things

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<v Speaker 3>Almore, well, let's get that and let's just see see

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<v Speaker 3>we can't tie those two together.

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<v Speaker 2>If as you and I kind of expected, and I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Logical thinking people will expect the same thing, prices is

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<v Speaker 3>going to go up at least for quite a few

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<v Speaker 3>goods and services. What will that be, by way, what

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<v Speaker 3>would the Fed's response to that price increase be in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of interest rate?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the Fed is going to wait to see inflation.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean that that's their goal is to control inflation. Inflation

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<v Speaker 4>isn't that bad right now? Certainly not where we were

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<v Speaker 4>a few summers ago. At nine percent. It's slightly higher

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<v Speaker 4>than what we've wanted it to be. Core core PC

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<v Speaker 4>came in at two point eight percent, which was right

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<v Speaker 4>around the expectations, but a lot higher than what that

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<v Speaker 4>committee shoots for at two percent. Jobless claims were okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and new home sales are a little better than anticipated,

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<v Speaker 4>So we're not seeing the kind of things yet that

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<v Speaker 4>the Fed would indicate or are going to be inflationary,

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<v Speaker 4>and therefore we need to react at this point. Though

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<v Speaker 4>the market bonds are trading as though we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>see a cut in June. That is a very very

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<v Speaker 4>short term here's what's happening right now type of an update.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's keep an eye on out of the next few

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<v Speaker 2>And if it does, about it to be more like

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter point, wouldn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, We're not in a situation where we've got raging

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<v Speaker 4>inflation and raging deflation. Nothing's raging, So I would anticipate

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<v Speaker 4>more tapping of the brakes or tapping of the gas

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<v Speaker 4>pedal if we do anything at all in the short run,

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<v Speaker 4>but much more likely very much wait and see approach.

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<v Speaker 4>Jerome Powell is not even reacting to how he's being

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<v Speaker 4>disparaged by the president who actually appointed him in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>So Donald Trump would like to see or rates sooner

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<v Speaker 4>rather than later, but he does not appear to be

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it kind of a weird faw and ignoring whether

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<v Speaker 3>you're a foe or against Donald Trump's decision to tariff

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<v Speaker 3>that we expect it's gonna increase the prices prices, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's an inflationary thing done because tariffs have been put

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<v Speaker 3>inflations through its interest rates, so that's a completely separate function.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like there's a strange connect slash disconnect that's going

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the good news for Trump is that

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<v Speaker 4>people are sensitive to inflation. We just had that nine percent,

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<v Speaker 4>as I mentioned, and people still talk about that as

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<v Speaker 4>if it's still here. That's not the case anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still at the grocery store. But that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that has there's a lot of layers in

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<v Speaker 4>I understand that absolutely absolutely. But what I think that

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<v Speaker 4>gives him is some headroom to say, well, yeah, a

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<v Speaker 4>price have gone up here. You know, this hasn't happened yet,

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<v Speaker 4>but I could see it playing out this way. After

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<v Speaker 4>we do see some inflation resulting directly from the tariffs

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<v Speaker 4>in the coming months, he could easily say, Yep, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the price we have to pay that I told

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<v Speaker 4>you about back in February. But at least it's not

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<v Speaker 4>nine percent like it was under the Biden administration. That's

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<v Speaker 4>how that's going to be positioned. So I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 4>Trump looks at this as though he's got some headroom

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's keep our popcorn out. We'll find out together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>home affordability, American dream kind of out of their reach

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<v Speaker 3>at this point. Can anything change this current landscape? It's say,

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<v Speaker 3>Ay twenty eight if afy about CAIRCD talk station. Happy Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>Money Monday with Brian James. I'm all worth financial appreciation

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<v Speaker 3>being loaned out every Monday for a few segs, but

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<v Speaker 3>talk about money matters and get yourself a certified or

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess in addition to lack of home affordability,

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<v Speaker 3>probably young people can't afford to put money away for

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<v Speaker 3>the retirement either. Brian, this is a sad reality settling

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<v Speaker 3>in here, lack of affordable housing and the American dream elusive,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of kids still living at home with their parents,

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they say that you only dream during rem sleep,

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<v Speaker 4>the implications of the American dream are all that wonderful

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<v Speaker 4>right now. It is right, You're right, it's very tough

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<v Speaker 4>almost always comes directly in the face of oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, don't forget, you're gonna have to fund

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<v Speaker 4>your own retirements because social Security is probably not going

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<v Speaker 4>to look much like it does right now. So don't

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<v Speaker 4>forget that mortgage payment and retirement all by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>you got by lunch too, So it's a tough challenge

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<v Speaker 3>And energy bills and repair cost. You know, the furnace

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<v Speaker 3>It's just you know, I've owned the homes since nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then the problem is not too much avocado

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<v Speaker 4>people can't afford sledghammers. However, will they make it now

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<v Speaker 4>that these are real issues? And I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 4>make light of them. No. Since since nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 4>middle wage workers have gone up, have seen their wages

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<v Speaker 4>increase only about sixteen point eight percent. That's an annualized

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<v Speaker 4>growth rate of zero point four percent per year. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at home prices, one hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>home in the late seventies would be something like three

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<v Speaker 4>quarters from a million to eight hundred thousand dollars right now.

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<v Speaker 4>So wages have simply not come up with homes. Homes

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<v Speaker 4>stopped being the American dream. They became an investment, just

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<v Speaker 4>like anything else, a speculative, commoditized investment, sometime in the past,

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<v Speaker 4>well really slowly over the past several decades. So nobody,

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<v Speaker 4>the economy as a whole, doesn't really care that it

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<v Speaker 4>costs young people an awful lot more as a percentage

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<v Speaker 4>of their paycheck to own a home. All we really

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<v Speaker 4>care about is, hey, that's an investment I can throw

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<v Speaker 4>money at and it will grow, and I don't really

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<v Speaker 4>have to worry about the side impacts on other people

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<v Speaker 4>because I'll just blame them on spending too much on

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<v Speaker 4>avocado toast. Well that's our philosophy right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but there was a time, and I know there

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<v Speaker 3>always have been big houses being built. But I remember

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<v Speaker 3>my grandpa marsh my mom's dad and grandma. They had

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<v Speaker 3>a little house on Cooper Drive in Lexington, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many square feet it was, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was not a very large home. Three boys, she had

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<v Speaker 3>three brothers. They all slept in one room in the roofline.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was a walk up, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>just one big room, three beds in it. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>nobody had their own bedroom. My mom had a separate

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<v Speaker 3>one downstairs, but very modest. And you know, I never

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<v Speaker 3>remember my grandfather being upset or unhappy. He always had

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<v Speaker 3>a you know, contented view of life. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they just work for IBM, and I just I think

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<v Speaker 3>our expectations on what we're supposed to have by way

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<v Speaker 3>of house has changed dramatically, and they start churning out

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<v Speaker 3>these big houses, these mega mansions, and even the smaller

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<v Speaker 3>homes are much much much bigger than they used to be,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course that's going to directly impact affordability. You

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<v Speaker 3>see some sort of perhaps sea change in how we

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<v Speaker 3>perceive housing, like the smaller houses being becoming more popular.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they're cheaper to build.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I absolutely do. Smaller houses are becoming more popular.

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<v Speaker 4>Not because people go, hey, I want to live in

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<v Speaker 4>a smaller house. People go, hey, I can't afford a

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<v Speaker 4>bigger house. This is the best I can do. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think that drives a lot of conflict really between

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<v Speaker 4>the generations. I don't ever remember. I'm fifty years old,

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<v Speaker 4>so I've been around a couple of blocks. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>ever remember there being conflict between generations. Like there is now.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what you're referring to, though, is that some

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<v Speaker 4>generation at some point is going to have to be

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<v Speaker 4>the one to capitulate and say, you know what, we

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<v Speaker 4>simply will not have it as good as our four.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to have to take the hit before we

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<v Speaker 4>get to move forward. And I'm fortunate not to be

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<v Speaker 4>in that situation, and I'm trying to guide my kids

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<v Speaker 4>away from getting too hung up on that because the

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<v Speaker 4>world is just plain changing. But I can see where

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<v Speaker 4>I would be extremely frustrated and bitter if I was

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<v Speaker 4>the one told you know what, it's just not going

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<v Speaker 4>to be as good as what you grew up watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or maybe the perception of what equals good. Going

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<v Speaker 3>back to the cost of maintaining and up keeping a home,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you have to furnish it, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>clean it, and you know, the smaller you have, smaller

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<v Speaker 3>space you have to deal with, the less there is

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<v Speaker 3>of that. So comparatively speaking, the cost of voting a

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<v Speaker 3>smaller home is less than a big home, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's some pus sides to it all, there.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely are, but I think that doesn't really settle in

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<v Speaker 4>until somebody is truly in that situation then putting themselves.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm guess I'm picturing for a young family that

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<v Speaker 4>first trip around with the real estate agent looking at

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<v Speaker 4>what they can afford versus what they had in their

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<v Speaker 4>heads before they got in the car that morning. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is a cold water shed.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 3>And my wife regularly points back to the eighties with

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<v Speaker 3>lifestyles of the rich and famous, which she thinks was

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<v Speaker 3>a turning point and what really between what truly really

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<v Speaker 3>matters and what people just get envious of and look

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<v Speaker 3>to and believe that they are not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>happy unless they have what the Joneses have down the street,

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<v Speaker 3>if you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it's so much easier to see what the

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<v Speaker 4>Joneses have nowadays, and this is harder. Obviously, we've got

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<v Speaker 4>social media, so you can't get away from it even

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to, and you're trying to do the

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<v Speaker 4>same thing that This is how we drive profit profit

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<v Speaker 4>in the United States of profit margin. Get people excited

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<v Speaker 4>about something, whether they can afford it or not, and

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<v Speaker 4>take advantage of it, of the rush when it happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and here's one other thing I've observe over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the idea that we're all going to live

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<v Speaker 3>in a house and have our own stuff and things

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<v Speaker 3>like that. If everybody in China, and I know they

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<v Speaker 3>have a housing issue in China of a different type,

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<v Speaker 3>but if every one of the one point two or

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<v Speaker 3>four billion people in China had felt that they had

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<v Speaker 3>to build a three thousand and four thousand, five thousand

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<v Speaker 3>square foot house, I think that would cause a problem

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of like natural resources and the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>even accomplish that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've thought of that a lot recently too, as

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<v Speaker 4>we you know, because the big pushback here can be

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<v Speaker 4>against suburban sprawl, because you know, every year there's a

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<v Speaker 4>new call to sat going up in a cornfield somewhere

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<v Speaker 4>that that's especially happening around here, and there are people

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<v Speaker 4>who object to that and say we shouldn't be doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>We should be conserving, conserving, And I'm always thinking, wherever

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<v Speaker 4>that person lives, do you do you want to live

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<v Speaker 4>in a skyscraper with five thousand other families? You should

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<v Speaker 4>we all stay inside some little pasture somewhere. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's logic to both sides. Yeah, But I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think the extremes are ever going to play a

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<v Speaker 4>role here.

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<v Speaker 3>Complicated it is, and we can only hope that at

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<v Speaker 3>least the home interest rates go down at least to

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<v Speaker 3>provide some measure of affordability for young people. I don't know, Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>Always a distinct pleasure having you on the program. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>look forward to next Monday, another edition of Money Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>and best to you and everybody at all Worth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, stay warm out there, and fake Spring.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk to you next week, Fake Spring. Indeed, it'll

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<v Speaker 3>last a moment. Enjoy it at last. See thirty five

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