Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2: Color A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler, Dots jeep Ram.
Speaker 1: It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome.
Speaker 3: Thank you for getting your pot up, Thanks for telling
a friend, and that's how we spread the word about
the pirate ship. Very excited because Danny's here and I actually,
Danny's a good one in to have uh in tonight because.
Speaker 1: I'm always a good one to have you. Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: No, that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm like the number one guest Jaz, not even a
guess Mary, like a fabric of the show. Yes, Kevin
and I are like the fabric. You and Kevin art
the fabric.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 3: You and Kevin are the fabric of the show, have
become the fabric of my lives.
Speaker 2: We are no in a very good way.
Speaker 1: I would to help you move to you said.
Speaker 2: No, I did, and I uh, nope, I didn't want to.
Speaker 1: It's got the van for Victor Chrysler does cheap.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm I'm I'm aware, but that no, no, so uh,
I don't know if it's like kind of the weather
stuff or what, but I have been I was kind
of I got numb today And there's a reason sort
of why. But we've had a lot of this flash
like these intense downpourts that we usually don't get in
western New York as a regular occurrence. And I've noticed
a weather pattern over the past couple of years is
wind Like we get these wild winds in the winter
and especially turning into spring, and then summer doesn't really
begin here.
Speaker 2: It just shows up. One day.
Speaker 3: You step outside, a fuck, it's ninety degrees Outlass dance school.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So but yesterday it just downpoured right, Yes, and my
friends very depressive doctor Rob Rice, who was it was
not a bad day up to that point. It was
about three third in the afternoon. Doctor Rob Brice, who
was a h was on the podcast. And I went
to Fisher last night to speak at something that he
was had was hosting and put together for a graduate
level class. And he's shown.
Speaker 2: Me videos of his yard like he go.
Speaker 3: He sends a message on Facebook if you find my
pool filter in your yard, please let me know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to see this.
Speaker 3: It is and it's roaring through and it floods. It's
that whole Rondoquoit Creek if you go through Powder Mills Park.
Speaker 2: And these are specific destinations.
Speaker 1: The hills at Pittsford. Yeah, a peaceful, quite little town
except what it.
Speaker 2: I mean it was, but this rain, I mean, Henrietta, Yeah,
we watched that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told my wife. So, my wife was on
the way home from school yesterday. I go, all right,
be careful, it's poring. She goes, it is. She works like,
you know, along the lake, let's see. Yeah, and uh
she gets she goes, oh my goodness, you're not joking, Like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, it just came down and hard.
Speaker 1: For a while, she was waiting for an arc joke,
but I didn't give her one. You know, it's pretty
hacked for me to deliver oh two of a remunable
It was pooring, man, it was freaking poring, Like, yeah,
this is how I want summer to start, I know,
because he just had nine freaking months of winter, and
then your winter like creeps in and sticks around like
that unwonted neighbor or guest. Yeah all right, and then
summer shows up like you know, just one day randomly.
Speaker 2: Well, next June. I think Sunday it's gonna be ninety degrees.
Speaker 1: All right, I hope so. And the people already bitching
about the freaking heat.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't want to hear no, no, no, it's
not the heat. Dam you got it.
Speaker 3: It is, and I'm gonna tell you like today, I
I've had a lot of sinus issues and I took
h I washed my sinuses out, which sounds really gross,
but I do it in the morning and at night.
Speaker 1: Make sure you use uh special water for that.
Speaker 2: I used distilled water with uh.
Speaker 1: Don't use sailing and that's serious. Don't use tap on,
use distilled water.
Speaker 3: So yeah, get into me, bin it'll So I'm standing
there and all of a sudden, my equilibrium went off,
and I'm my vision is going like this where you
just see it like an old fashioned TV. I I've
had this happen before. Not because of that, but I've
had it. And they call it vertigous migraines. I'm not sure.
So I had to just kind of stand there and
regain my balance for a second, and then uh it forever.
Speaker 1: All day I'm in a chair in fair and I'm
safe all day.
Speaker 3: I've been sort of off and I, I haven't seen you,
uh since the weekend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, missed you? You missed me too, Yeah, I bet?
Speaker 2: And Uh I.
Speaker 3: Called my dad on Father's Day and I had waited
because mornings are My dad has Parkedson's He's now living
in an assisted living center in Maine, in Kenny Bunk,
and uh, I waited for a period of time to
call him because I know mornings are kind of rough.
But then around nine o'clock, I'm like, I should just
give him a call. Let's see. And I put on
the CBS Sunday Morning Show, and because I'm a little
bit selfish, I'm like, I want to see this piece
on Letterman because it was it was about Dave Letterman
being co owner of the Ray Hall Letterman racing for
Indy Car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's from Indy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and Dave has a huge car collection
and stuff.
Speaker 1: So those late night hosts they like to collect their cars.
Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah yeah, Len Well Jay had Jay's garage.
Yeah after that Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, Yeah, you spent a diamond that money.
Speaker 2: So uh, I wanted to see that anyway.
Speaker 3: I and then at some point I just go, I
should call him now, and I called and.
Speaker 2: I hear hello, Oh can you hear me? And I said, yeah,
can you hear me? Bill? Are you there? He said, yeah,
what's a matter. I'm in a desperate situation.
Speaker 3: And I go, okay, you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna
hate yourself.
Speaker 1: Because your father, like you've always talked about your father,
is like he's he comes in with a lot of
pomp and circumstances. Every scenario. He has to like announce
the scenario before he gets like he's got to give
the preface or the or the and then like a
book has like a uh somebody that gives the opening, yeah,
you know, and then they go into the book. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: That's fair. He uh So he's going, I'm in a
desperate situation.
Speaker 3: I I I can't move, and I go what I
I well, whatever happened? He locks up now and physically
can't move, and I guess he was sort of in
like a kneeling position alongside his bed. So he's like,
you gotta call your brother. So I call my brother.
And then I said, I'm going to call the front
desk as well and alert them. And the front desk
is like, well, I'll have to call the person on call.
And I'm like, let's just go down there. Yeah, And
then they go, well, because I think they need like
a medical person. You can't just move somebody, God forbid,
honestly because illegalities.
Speaker 2: Something happened.
Speaker 1: We need a union worker here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I know it sounds ridiculous, but if
you like, all of a sudden tore his achilles or something,
I don't know.
Speaker 1: Sorry, we had a non union nurse here.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he and he's supposed to have this pen and
she said, well, why didn't he hit his call button.
I said, well, it's in the bathroom. She goes, no,
he has one that he should be wearing, and I said, oh,
I have no idea. I said, listen, I'm in Rochester.
I'm facilitating this. I just happened to be the one
that called. And I call him the next day to
see how he's doing, and he said, not much better
than yesterday. But you saved my life because I feel
like I would have been I don't know, who knows
how long I would have been there. And I'm like,
that's not true because someone would have called the wish
Happy Father's Day, but he couldn't reach to see the phone,
Like he couldn't turn his head to see the call,
but he could somehow answer it. I don't know what
the circumstances were. It sounds odd, but I don't know.
So as I'm on the phone, I call him back
and I can hear someone going, all right, we're going to.
Speaker 2: Get someone into help. He goes, if you can just
get someone to put their arms underneath my armpits and
lift me up, And they're going, well, what if we
put you on the bottom, that'll work anything. So he's
like really bad. And then I call him the next day.
Speaker 3: And my dad was the kind of guy who would
put on a suit to get.
Speaker 2: The mail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean he was a sixth grade teacher, but he
always wore a suit and a tie every day, sometimes
a three piece suit.
Speaker 1: That's like the Jordan Peterson theory. Always look good, always
dressed for success.
Speaker 3: So it was just the way I was raised. As
I sit here in a T shirt and stuff, but
it's sort of my theory is to why I keep
a shirt on standby.
Speaker 1: And crisp iron shirt for the emergency.
Speaker 3: Roomy well, anywhere, I mean anywhere you want to have
a little dignity.
Speaker 2: So I'm I.
Speaker 3: I call him the next day and he's like, yeah,
I'm I'm how you doing.
Speaker 2: He goes, well, I slept on the couch last night. Oh,
couch is so cold. Forgot how great that couches.
Speaker 3: But he wanted to be up higher, and he said, listen,
I I have been stuck in this chair since nine o'clock.
And I don't know what time I was talking to him.
I can't remember because it had to be like towards
the end of the day. I'm thinking it had to
be like three thirty, goes I'm in my underwear still,
And that's not something you never My father never walking
around the house in his underwear. He walked around sometimes
in the morning with a robe, but he never walked
around in his underwear. He didn't wear pajamas, you know,
so you but he had a robe, which is never
but you never saw him like I don't think I've
ever seen I don't know that I've seen the man naked.
At probably at some point you busted in somewhere, but
like as a kid he came busting in the back.
Speaker 2: Dad.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't see my father naked until about
three weeks before his death. Yeah, so then he at
that point did have much choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, and your dignity is sort of gone and
you don't really care.
Speaker 1: He goes, Dan, It's like a twisted pretzel, isn't it.
Speaker 3: So he says, uh, so, my old man's like, you know,
we're talking, and he goes, I called your brother, he's
gonna come over after after work, and I said all right.
He goes, yeah, he goes, listen, uh, I'm dying and
I said, well, because he had, so they took him
to the hospital after the incident Father's Day.
Speaker 2: He was taken out in an ambulance.
Speaker 3: The guy checks out with pulses, great heart is fine,
you know, alert, but physically he's going, what is happening
to me? And I think what happens is you start
to realize that you don't want to live this way,
and you've lived your life and it's sort of towards
the end. So he said to me, look, I'm dying
and I said well, and he's like yeah, he goes,
but it's it's it's true. He goes, look, I'm gonna
every day I wake up, I'm I'm glad I'm here,
and I'm gonna take advantage of the day as best
I can, and uh so today I so.
Speaker 2: Then I guess. My brother called me this morning.
Speaker 3: He was on his way to on a special camping
trip with just his son and a bunch of guys going.
I guess it's a bunch of rich guys from what
I gathered. I'm only inferring that my brother didn't say that,
but they're all moose hunters and uh.
Speaker 2: Craft beer drinkers, probably craft beer drinking dudes.
Speaker 1: Where our guys socks in the summer.
Speaker 3: And they're fly fishermen. He just said to me, Yes,
some of these guys like to go on a they
want to on a fly fishing trip. And they flew
into a private lake, a secluded lake, and then had
to take like a basically.
Speaker 1: A ferry or something.
Speaker 3: No, they took a water taxi plane into this place
to where they fish.
Speaker 2: And I go, oh, yeah, I know those guys. I
know those guys. I know a couple of guys.
Speaker 3: Said do things like that, right, And so he's like yeah,
and it's just fathers and sons and where And it's
like three hours north of where he lives. So it's
almost like the top of Vermont and New Hampshire. You're
that high but still in Maine, and he said, listen.
Speaker 2: I I said to Dad.
Speaker 3: You know he's not doing well. And I said, yeah,
I got that, and he goes. I said to him,
are you gonna be okay with me mopping around? He goes,
but I'm checking on him every day, like I'm showing
up every day, and I.
Speaker 2: Said, okay. He goes. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He said he thinks he has two months to live,
and he's been saying that and I would say to him,
he got two years. He goes, but I'm starting to
believe him. And I said, yeah, I get that. And
then my sister calls me today and said, listen, we
got to check in with Dad every day while Kevin's
out of town. And he goes and his wife is
taking their daughter somewhere and he goes. She said, just
you know, just check in with him, and I said, yeah.
So I get these random calls, but sometimes he butt
dials and then hangs up quick, and I don't I
don't know what's going on. You know, he's seventy nine,
he's got Parkinson's. He's gonna be eighty in October if
he makes it and oh my god. So I try calling.
Speaker 2: Him and today and I happened to be with someone
and I said, uh, I go, I want you to
kind of hear this stuff, and he, uh so, I
get all. He calls me back and he said, and.
Speaker 3: It was probably I could have been five to seven minutes,
maybe ten minutes from the time I called him to
the time he called back.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: And he said to me, I was trying to put
a quilt on the bed, and he said, I heard
the phone ringing in the other room. And he goes,
it took me that long to get from my bedroom
to the phone on the kitchen table. And I mean
we're talking a small, one bedroom place, right, So he
goes and he goes, and I'm out of breath and
I said, yeah, and he goes. I said, because he
keeps saying like I'm going to go back to the gym,
I'm getting back to the gym. And I think he's
slowly starting to realize, and I think we probably have
to consider a higher level of care for him, you
know what I mean, like instead of just assisted living,
like something else. Yes, And my brother wants to have
that call next week. So I'm sitting there. I'm sitting there,
and I won't reveal too much. I keep things a
term that I learned today, pocketed, meaning like I don't
share a lot of these things. But it was a
friend of mine and my father has met this person
and it's a woman. And I said, so and so
is here, and you could hear his whole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, oh yeah, this is an opportunity.
Speaker 3: This is an opportunity to show off a little bit,
you know what I mean, Like you could hear it,
and he had been. And I said to my brother earlier,
just as a little backtrack, uh not that my dad
never said it. He did, he would say I love you,
but he didn't. You didn't end phone calls. It was
usually with most of my calls over the last couple
of years. But well, good luck with it all, Willie.
Speaker 2: That's what it was. It's now been I.
Speaker 3: Love you, and I said, yeah, I love you too,
and and and even on Father's Day. The amount of love,
the fact that you called when you did, I couldn't
have come at a better time. I was in so
much pain. I was in so much pain. My dad
once fell.
Speaker 2: This is terrible. But like I think back on things.
But my dad, uh, they I don't know.
Speaker 3: They weren't hoarders, but they had a lot of shit
and they just collected. It was in the back of
the basement. So he decided to clean out the basement
and he got a dumpster and that got filled and
it was like seven hundred dollars to empty the dumpster.
So then he just started burning things in the backyard
and he tripped and fell into the fire and burned
both hands really really really badly. Didn't I tell you
the story that one? Oh, I didn't tell you this.
This is like, so I wasn't living at home, and
I don't know where.
Speaker 1: My brother before the house burned down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know where my brother was. But
he goes, hey, Mom just called and said Dad fell
into the fire and his hands are all bandaged up
like oversize oven mittens, and she's going to get him
pain medication.
Speaker 2: I go, hang up, I'm gonna call I see along,
takes some dance to the phone and we did you
heard about like we like dicky things like that, dicky
dicky dicky, dumb dicky dicky things.
Speaker 3: That's like dumb, right, that's mean. But he said to me.
That was a ten on the pain scale. Father's Day
was an eight. By comparison, I was in that much pain. Yeah,
I mean just think about it. Anytime you go to
the doctor they ask in a pain scale you if
you're being really honest, you're like, so, I feel like
then you're you're holding the gun to my head, going
what's the pain? And I will say a five if
it's really a five, and that you know, but it hurts,
A five hurts, six hurts.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going okay. So today.
Speaker 3: I call him and he when I say, you know,
by the way, so and so I can hear you,
and he's like, oh, And I said, yeah, really thinks
you're very funny, and he is. He's very very funny
without sometimes even realizing it.
Speaker 2: And he goes, oh, did I tell you about the hospital?
Speaker 3: And you gotta picture this because if I say it,
it sounds like an old man joke. But if you
can put it into context of the moment, what they're
trying to do, and just what the only thing that's
funny is the unexpected, right, The unexpected is what makes
something funny if.
Speaker 2: You see it coming.
Speaker 3: Sometimes he can still be funny, like I can see
sometimes they coming and I start laughing because I can
see it coming.
Speaker 2: But with these things.
Speaker 3: So he said, you know, I have a million tests,
and he goes in every room. They're bringing me into
a they're putting me in the MRI machine, and they're
asking me my name, do I know where I am?
What day of the week is it, what is your
date of birth? And where are you now? And he goes, so,
I'm going through on a mansion and they can say
where are you now? He goes, I'm in a gentleman's club, right,
And that's what he said, because I'm at a gentleman's club.
And he goes, and so the person laughs and then
he says, he goes, I.
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know. It was dark. I don't even
remember faces, but that that nurse remembered it. She came
back and she said, eh, the gentleman's club.
Speaker 3: And he goes, I said, well, you're very funny, and
he goes, oh, and then he just said to me again.
You know, he just goes, Look it's near the end
of the show and he goes, it's been a great ride.
And I gotta tell you, Dan, that kind of knocked
the wind out of my sails. I went home, and uh,
I started to do some work for the podcast and
other things that I'm doing, and uh, I gotta lay
down on like I gotta, I gotta shut it down
for a minute. And I went and laid down for
like forty five minutes and uh and then got up.
Speaker 2: And I've just been the.
Speaker 3: Kind of numb and the thing that the only thing
I can think is like, it's very strange to mourn
someone when they're.
Speaker 2: Still alive and not like on life support or losing
their marbles. He'll tell you I got dementia. I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I think, I go, you're stressed, are so stressed right
now because you're worried about what's next. And he will
He has always been that kind of person. And we've
had things, incidents over the years with him where I
won't get into the details of it, but he would
almost take make it feel like he was trying to
make it easier for you, which sometimes you go, well,
maybe that's a shitty thing. I don't know, but I
think even in this he's trying to make it easier
for us, Like he's just saying, like, I know it's
the end, and he'll say I'm dying. He goes just
just taking a while, and he's like, but he's not.
He's lucid, he's aware, and you know, I don't know
what to think.
Speaker 2: I go.
Speaker 3: At one point I thought I was gonna cry, and
I didn't. And then I go, I'm not sure if
I'll ever cry. I don't know what's wrong with me.
And I'm watching this.
Speaker 2: I go, how do you I mean, your base mourning
someone who's still there.
Speaker 3: And my sister's like, listen, we gotta, you know, call
him every day. And I said, yeah, I go, I
go listen. I'm at a and I was at a lunch.
It was a meeting more than anything. It was more
of a business type thing, but it was some of
my dad knew. And I was like, Jesus Christ, and
I don't, I don't know. I say, you're a good
person to be here because you lost your dad. Yes,
now you lost your dad and you were young.
Speaker 1: I lost Wednesday of next week. It'll be eighteen years.
And we actually have a young cousin who was born
a week after or two weeks after my father died,
who is now graduating from high school. We haven't talked
to him in years. But my uncle, who this child
is his grandfather. He goes, I see my grandson. I
think your father, it's been that long. He marks the
time now. And it was weird because my father did
not want me, my brothers, or my younger sister to
know that he had cancer. And I got it out
of my older sister. She was married to a doctor,
she was a doctor herself, and basically I got it
out of her that something was wrong with that. I go,
he's got gall bladders. And I kept like asking questions,
not realizing Dan, he's got cancer. And she finally like
started like looking at my brother in law looking back
at her. Should we tell him? And I knew as
soon as she said should we tell him? He had cancer?
And this is the same guy who said once, man,
if you ever we're watching TV, man, if I ever
end up with that, you might as well just put
a gun to my head and pull the trigger. So
I'm immediately thinking this he could have just like do
away with himself, just I'll save you all on a trip.
I'm done. Yeah, Because I could see my father doing
something like that. He didn't do that. He went through it,
and the hard part was that he actually got really
really good, and then halfway through the bottom fell out.
And then for the last eighteen months we were getting
ready for like you were saying, the end. Only he
was fifty eight. He wasn't in your father's case, nine, right,
So it was I think your father and my father
about our close in age then, so he would have
been seventy six this year. But they're from that generation
and they got My father calls it the Vietnam or
the Vietnam generation. Yeah, if you serve in Vietnam, you know,
I don't the way they pronounce it, and you know
there's there's no way to prepare for it.
Speaker 2: There isn't.
Speaker 1: There just isn't. And the hard part with you, I've
actually thought about this with you. You know, your parents
are still here, your siblings are still here.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I lost my father at twenty seven, and I was
unemployed at the time we had dad. This is what
you paid for. This is the way to see me out.
I'm sorry. I wish they could have done better for you.
And then I lost my sister about five years ago,
so I know what it's like to get, you know,
hit in the mouth by life a couple of times,
and you know, I feel in a different way for
people like you or I have some cousins who have
never lost anybody who were like, when that day comes,
how are they going to react because they've never had
to experience that.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, so they experienced, right, that's what.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I mean at least you know you're
older now and so that way you can like you
have the wisdom now to live with something like that.
But I'm glad that your father's telling you this so
it doesn't come as like a total surprise.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I I can tell, I can hear, like,
you know, he sounds weak, as my friend said, he
sounded weak in the beginning, but he perked up, and
I go, hey, perked up. Gad I had an audience.
Yeah right, you know, I didn't know I was going
to be here because your.
Speaker 1: Father's always one of those guys like I only had
one conversation with it. But the stories like you've told
over the years, I feel like I've known him my
whole life. Yeah, he's just so Dowkin's your doorway this
week and lollapalooza, please send him back to Pine Pa.
Speaker 2: Say, I will say this in a limo bus as
much as as he and I had our moments over
the years.
Speaker 3: He was a very proud and private person, but was
also extremely funny and could be extremely dirty but funny,
but like funny, not.
Speaker 1: You've been funny on this show. Hey they sell markets. Yeah,
so Amazon.
Speaker 3: Uh he's he's uh. But I I was thinking, like
you appreciate all that a little bit more? Yes, you know,
and even the the When I say appreciate, I mean
even the writing the letters to not let me into
a party that was serving alcohol when I was like
sixteen seventeen in perfect penmanship. Yes, out, but also always
had your back, like I was known in my town.
Speaker 1: Is where's the party?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And the cops showed up because property got destroyed at
a at somebody's summer rental or summer home up by
us and kids went back because it was step back
off the road and there was a party, and the
cops showed up and said, come on, man.
Speaker 2: You know who was there.
Speaker 3: Just give me some names because people's I think windows
got broken in someone's How shitty would that be?
Speaker 2: Right? You come back and the windows broken, and how.
Speaker 1: Crappy is that? You're the person who's got to roll
over on everybody. Well, this is the target, you're the expected.
Speaker 2: But I go, man, I wasn't even there. He goes,
I know.
Speaker 3: I go, I was home watching my brother and sister.
He goes, I know, but I've been told that you
probably yes, how.
Speaker 2: Does that happen? Like the state's trooper do?
Speaker 3: So my father says, uh, makes him come in sit
in the living room and he says he and he's
like uh.
Speaker 2: He goes, come on, Bill just and he goes, you
will address him as William and like, I didn't say anything,
and my father was like, absolutely not. Your father is
not dead.
Speaker 3: He always had your back, whether it was in his
best interest or not.
Speaker 2: I can remember another time being on the I just
caught myself on camera. I'm like, oh, puffy and swollen today.
I really was numb.
Speaker 3: After this, he went, We're at the Jersey shore and
I said to him, I go, can't find a pail
or something.
Speaker 2: I might have been like eleven or playing. So my
brother had to be still three. He's about three or four.
And I go, I think, and I go, oh, that
family down there took it. Those kids took it. My
father takes off down the beach.
Speaker 1: Jogging castle, hassle off, yeah, cassle hog yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big guy yeah hell yes.
Speaker 3: But he would go up and down and wait, got
way up and wait, and then really lost it. And
uh oh I love to drink, but hasn't had a
drink in eighteen years.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, yep, okay, so two thousand and seven
is my father. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, well, maybe it's time to stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there was a reason, but uh, he's jogging
down and then he comes back. While he's gone, I
find it, and I remember being like, oh my god,
but it's weird. And I'll end it on this note.
And I don't I guess all my life behind a
microphone of some sort. I found it helpful for me,
and I hope it doesn't bore or sound too sappy
or sad for too many people.
Speaker 2: But I think it's it's a relatable thing. He said
to me again at the end, he goes, look, it's
near the end. I'm dying. And I said, where you
used to not know what to say, I will say
as an adult or an older person. Now I.
Speaker 3: Think that I like to say back in those situations
I don't know what to say to that. You know,
I don't like hearing it. And he said to me,
I don't like saying it, but I'm gonna be happy.
I'm here every day I'm here, and you know, so yeah,
I would.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know by you know the song
of the Gambler by Kenny Rodgers Danny Boy. This song
is a metaphor for life. What's a metaphor? Oh just listen? Yeah, yeah,
And you know in this final you know, the Gambler
broke even in his final words, I found an ace
that I could keep. And you got to remember that
your father, like taught you so many lessons and the
best thing to hope four is that he goes in
his sleep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that no more pain.
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not trying to bury him now, No,
I'm just saying, like I remember my father like it
was like three. It was like months of just watching
him deteriorate, right, you know. And in your father's case,
I mean like he was a guy who worked out
the last ten years of his life. Yes, I mean
what I mean, Like there's people like doctor at said,
you got to you gotta work out prepared for the
last ten years. You're like, I don't think it works
that way. I think life has a way of just saying, no,
screw you, we're catching up. Marv Leeve. He's walking with
the walker. This guy was running wind sprints three years ago.
He's been he's almost one hundred years old.
Speaker 2: Right, but had he not run the wind sprints, he
wouldn't be right exactly.
Speaker 1: So you finally like work out.
Speaker 3: My father though, at an instant at the gym when
he was living in Jersey where he he he probably
became and I don't know, but I always picture in
my mind and I always joke with my brother he's
that guy at the gym.
Speaker 2: Eh, that was his social club.
Speaker 3: So he got I think someone I feel like someone
was ignoring him, Like they had headphones in and they're
on and they're just focused and he's trying to get
their attention and they're not paying attention. So he climbs
onto a piece of equipment next to them and like
leans over to get their thing attention, and then he
can't get.
Speaker 2: Off of it, Like he locked up to the point
where someone had to get him on their back and
get him to get them off the equipment. Like Okay,
that's where we're at.
Speaker 3: Like slowly, and I think that I don't know why.
I will tell you that I do believe that we
all have the power within us. But we're not meant
to live forever. We're not meant to be here forever.
It doesn't mean that that this is the end. Remember,
Danny and I may have slightly different views on this,
but I think we are energy and we will go
on eternally. And I think that you are more than
the physical body you are now. But that aside, I
I I don't know where I was going to see
now I'm losing my mind. That aside, I think that.
Speaker 1: It's hard to hear your father say that on Father's Day. Well,
it all kind of.
Speaker 2: Becomes on Father's Day. He said it, like today today, but.
Speaker 1: Like leading up to this, yeah, you've had like, you know,
Father's Day and then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this, so it's just been a it's just been
kind of kind of weird. And then you also want
to go, how do you keep them safe without sacrificing
too much of his dignity either, because this is going
to be complete strangers when you're in a higher level
of care checking on you every day, coming in.
Speaker 2: Maybe stretching me out a little bit, you know that
sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And this is someone who's very private, doesn't like to
be touched, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Very very private, very specific.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like you know, it's like not a uh
you know, that's it. I would never walk barefoot because
you know, all this ship. So that was yeah, that
that'll be different. And that's it becomes like how do
you balance you feel for him because you don't want
him to lose any dignity of his own, but I
think it he'll at this point he's gone, what am
I gonna do?
Speaker 1: No, right, it's it's it's yeah, it's it's a tough situation.
I feel for you. I've been there. My wife's recently
been there. Yes, I mean you know yeah, And and in
both of our cases, we kind of saw for years
the uh, the inevitable. You know, your father's case. I
mean we just a year ago, like around this time
a year he was in here in the studio.
Speaker 2: Yeah he was and then uh he looked fine, yep.
And he was having a little bit of trouble moving
around the stuff, but he was getting around. He had
driven here, but he did still.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did stay a day or two because he
was really tired and that, and look, it's a progressive disease, right,
you know. And I think, like, so he when he
works out, he's better. But I think now, well he
can't even work out, he can't even really leave his place. Yeah,
he's like I think he said, I haven't left this
place in three days, you know. And I will tell
you like when we started the podcast, we were doing
it from my dining room table. I'm like, I get
the fuck out of here, lose in my mind. I'm
still in my now, I have no problem being in
my underwear walking around. I'm sitting doing videos, writing stuff.
And I realized it's two o'clock in the afternoon, I'm
still in my underwear, and I go, this is I
can't do this. I cannot live this way. And we
got a studio and everything went move forward. But it's
like I can't imagine for him what that's like, and
that that that's the stuff that's just sort of tough, right,
because let's be honest, your dad was your yeah, and so.
Speaker 1: My dad could beat up your dad. It's the oldest
argument in the history of mankind.
Speaker 2: You got it. Uh, We'll take a moment. We'll go
to something a little lighter, A little lighter. I don't
know why this is happening, but it feels like we're
having more and more of it happening.
Speaker 1: Is this teacher student again?
Speaker 2: No, well, it seems like a week there was there
is a local. There is a locally there's some kid.
Speaker 3: Who was reported missing from I think like a teen
detention center. I don't know if it's a detention center.
Speaker 2: Or a home or whatever.
Speaker 3: Found with one of the counselors who's now been charged
with kidnapping and rape. And I don't even know how
old the kid is. I have no idea, and it's
I think it's in a neighboring county to where we are.
Speaker 2: So this shit happens.
Speaker 3: It's just like you know, hey, love has no boundaries, Dan,
I don't know if you know that love has no boundaries.
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Speaker 2: When I speel the news faded as margin, Bobby thumed
diesel down. Just as far.
Speaker 1: The road a song went Newing.
Speaker 3: I played this because it was playing soft Body single.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 3: I play this because it was one of my wit
That's favorites. He had that stupid little Fierro and he
had the Janus Joplin Greatest Hits set and he fucking
cranked it till the window shook, like you couldn't even
have a conversation.
Speaker 2: He loved it. And it was later in life, and
I'm like, what is this like you No, because I
love this song.
Speaker 3: Maybe if that's why, but I just I just love it.
I love the story tells it's such a great story.
Speaker 1: Did she write her own songs?
Speaker 2: She just I'm not sure. This one was written by
Chris Kersoffers, Yes, the late.
Speaker 1: Chris Kersoffers, Right, he just died. Yeah, you know how
he you know he finally got its like songwriting deal. No, well,
he was a pilot in the Air Force.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he could drive it. Rhodes scholar too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, smart dude. Helicopter. So he shows up at like
Johnny Cash's house in a helicopter with a couple of beers.
Johnny Cash wasn't home, but his family said, hey, dad,
some guy just showed up at a helicopter. He's got
a song he wrote for you. And that's how they
became friends and that's how he got into the hole.
Speaker 2: Man. Sometimes you have to just take bold movie if
you believe you.
Speaker 3: Have that, you know, I mean that that that's the
thing you gotta believe. I think that's that's part of
it with my Like, I'm I worry, my mind's all
over the place. But I worry that my siblings will
get upset that I talk about this stuff because they're a.
Speaker 2: Little more private. They're a little more private.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that. My my family was the same
way when I talk about stuff on the break. Yeah,
I got so much crap.
Speaker 2: So I I I feel like that may be part
of uh. But but either way, I I it's just
what I do.
Speaker 1: And I mean no malice, but the good the good
news is even like the deliverance of bad news. Now
you know there's a shot clock, so now you know. Okay, Well,
I'm gonna take every moment to let my father know
how much he means to me.
Speaker 3: I have to, uh, I said, I said to my brother, listen,
I want I gotta get up there to see him.
And he said, yeah, I go. I I said, I can.
You know, I'll get a hotel. Note feel like you
gotta put me. I mean they get the kids and
and he's like, no, no, no, we'll figure out. I said,
But then I'm going, I don't know when you know,
I got jury duty next week?
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean? And I guess I
could put it off and go, hey, my dad's I
guess I could. I don't know. I don't want to
use him as an excuse and then watch him live
another year, you know what I mean, Like whoa uh.
Speaker 3: And I've already put it off because it was interfering
with the project I was doing. And so now I
put it till now, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, I gotta, I gotta go.
Speaker 3: So it's it's not like I'm going to run up there.
And but Jamison's done with school, He's got a one
more regents and then uh, that'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It's got to be a way to get out of
jury duty. I think there's the whole show about it.
Could we have a Netflix show called jury Duty or
on Prime show?
Speaker 2: Probably, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Then there's people who like want to serve on every jury,
they want to like to side people's face. We could
just find those people to do our do our jury
duty for us. Those those Americans.
Speaker 2: Citisen like to Uh, I'd like to go on the
well anyway, it.
Speaker 1: Would be a great experience.
Speaker 2: I would like to go on your duty, just to
see the process of it all. But at the same time,
I don't want to.
Speaker 1: What it might being on a jury. It's not that
I don't want to do it, Yeah, because you have
to work. Like if you're in sales like I am,
or you you you don't make any money when you're
serving aking country.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down. I got podcast to do. I got things.
Speaker 1: I got things to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I I go, how here's where
my brain goes? Now?
Speaker 3: How can I turn trips in the summer into podcasts?
Speaker 2: Like? How do I go?
Speaker 3: My mom lives near Jeffrey Dean Morgan who was on
The Walking Dead and his wife Hillary Burton was on
One Tree Hill. How do I parlay a visit to
my mom and sit down with them?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: The who was the founder of Rolling Stone was somebody
was his son owns a brewery by my mom. How
do I get that guy to sit down with me
for an hour? And then you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know you're into helicopter and you show up with
the guy's front lawn with a couple of his own beers.
Speaker 3: They're interesting, They're they're interesting people, and I think they
make great podcasts.
Speaker 2: But I go, yeah, I go, is that selfish for me? Yes?
So what? Well, I guess.
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I'm gonna be down there and these
are interesting people and I'd like to.
Speaker 1: Dude, they'll talk to you. My buddy Mike Ham Yeah,
like okay, so I went. So he uh. He was
a pitching coach at Saint je Fisher. He and I
lived together after my divorce. I lived with three other dudes.
He was one of them. He and I became really
good friends. He was like ten years younger than I am.
And he started this podcast. You can look it up.
It's like it's like New Jersey related podcast. Everything's New Jersey.
Like they got their own hats, now, they got their
own gear. They have Jersey Fest. Now, they have a
radio station that only plays artists from New Jersey. He
started all this stuff and he's just going to people
who are from New Jersey and they just pitch whatever
they have. Yeah, and they love it because they're just
getting an hour of free a free commercial. Yeah, talking
about these people will talk to you. I'll talk to you.
So maybe not the guys from The Walking Dead, but
but the brewery.
Speaker 3: Dude, well, I think jeffreydy Morerian May he owns a
chocolate chop with Paul Rudd in the village.
Speaker 2: So we'll see. Let's get onto something lighter. That's been
making headlines. I don't know. I'm sure you saw this.
Speaker 1: You you are find out.
Speaker 2: You're all over social media. It's been that's that's from
on Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm not anywhere else though, So you're.
Speaker 2: On yes, so uh, you probably a lot.
Speaker 1: Of threads about health. The algorithm's got Maybe.
Speaker 2: Wow, Danny, Danny, you have become the supplement guy.
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's that is true. A New York
City based artist. Her name is Leanna Perry. She's thirty
two years old. She's known for working with brands like Maybeleine.
Maybe it's maybe Lene. She's making megapart ah, I don't know, okay,
but she was one of their top designers.
Speaker 2: She may she may have to change it single to
maybe you need a lawyer. She was.
Speaker 3: She worked for Adidas, Steve Madden, Steve Madden shoes and stuff.
She went viral. Uh, for all the wrong reasons. She
went viral.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a text I apologized.
Speaker 3: I've been having my phone on do not disturb, but
because my dad will call at random times, I don't
want it on do not disturb because I don't hear it.
But when I'm doing the podcast, it put it on
do not disturb when I'm in certain situations. Anyway, So
a text came in from somebody on the podcast making
some ridiculous comment.
Speaker 2: Not about the show that we're doing.
Speaker 3: Uh So this woman went viral after a drunken violent
meltdown on Southwest Airlines and here his said, melt down.
Speaker 2: Let me see if I have the right thing.
Speaker 1: Don't tell it.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this woman comes on the plane and apparently
we refuses to sit next to someone on Southwest because
they're too fat. And the woman doesn't look that fat.
I mean, she really didn't hard to tell.
Speaker 1: She could just be big boned.
Speaker 2: She doesn't look.
Speaker 3: Fat, but it's hard to tell. From the camera angle.
This is being filmed from behind the fat woman. This
woman is now over her seat and the alleged I
will say alleged fat woman has a mask on, like
a COVID mask. Or the masks that we wore. Like
over there, I'm seeing a lot more people wearing those. Yeah, yeah,
me too, I am and which okay, I you know,
I don't get it, but all right, you do you
if it gets you, hey, if.
Speaker 1: You feel better, because I know anxiety is a thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I agree.
Speaker 1: I'll tell my wife. Yeah, I'm with you. But you
know what, my wife says the same thing about But
at the end of the day, if they have anxiety,
it makes them feel better, you know what.
Speaker 2: And maybe it keeps them healthier.
Speaker 3: I didn't get a cold that time, and I've had
a cold now for a little while.
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Here's a lady on the plane, thirty two year old
Leanna Perry. They're trying to tell her not to touch
the fat lady.
Speaker 2: Who alleged fat lady. Let me say that again. Who
is she's?
Speaker 3: This woman is kneeling on her seat, leaning over Okay,
and in the face of the alleged fat woman with
now several three or four US Yeah Southwest workers.
Speaker 1: And even a few baggage handlers.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, just passengers don't.
Speaker 2: Look at her. Yeah, she grabs the hair, grabs her
by the hair. What the alleged fat woman.
Speaker 1: She's got her hair like.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's got and I'm not even touching her hair, bitch.
Not able. This woman is like up against her head something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't want to say next to
fat lady over here. You guys are already passed.
Speaker 3: You're already passed.
Speaker 2: That's so priamos. Y'all see me, do you know what's
going says about her face? Put me on the ground.
Speaker 1: All right, look at this fat lady.
Speaker 2: Look at as fat ass bitch. She can't even look.
You can't even your stomach.
Speaker 1: That's horrible.
Speaker 2: Look at her.
Speaker 1: Bit hilarious. You can't even show your mouth because you're embarrassed.
Got the mask because you're embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up. Sorry, I can't hear you.
Speaker 1: I can't hear you, ugly ass dude.
Speaker 2: He's never had a lay it again. She also a
black guy.
Speaker 1: My boyfriends, My boyfriend's sucking a black guy. My boyfriend's
a black, My boyfriend's black.
Speaker 2: My boyfriends a fucking black guy. All right, as.
Speaker 3: She's now spitting on the woman.
Speaker 2: Shut the shut I'm gonna shut the shut the up.
I can't breathe Yeah, they got her on the ground.
Speaker 1: That's George Floyd cout all right.
Speaker 2: So this woman has just completely lost her ship. And
I don' she got on the plane drunk. I don't
know what drug she was on.
Speaker 3: That's why I said she may be going from maybe
it's maybe lean to maybe I need a lawyer.
Speaker 1: H we guessed the apology? Yeah, sure, Like if I
were Steve Sircu, how would I craft this defense letter?
Speaker 3: But you're seeing what seems like more and more extreme
behavior in planes, and we see everything now, we are
so hyper connected, we see every there you go back,
I'm gonna say, I feel like fifteen years ago, our
technology wasn't where I could go live from the plane.
And you know what I mean, I mean somebody probably
did or film it and upload it instantly.
Speaker 2: I mean this has been everywhere.
Speaker 3: Every newscast has had it then, and so it just
got picked up. But I mean I'm seeing the raw stuff.
I think at some point in the video or one video,
she yells at the woman, I'm sorry that your husband
has a two inch dick or whatever. But I'm going,
how does nobody and I go this? There must be
something wrong with me because I always think if your
first instinct is to hit, there's something wrong with you.
But if she had my girlfriend, wife, partner, whatever, buy
the hair, and she's pulling it and she's not letting go,
I am punching that woman square in the fucking face,
and I'm hitting to knock her out. I'm not hitting
to just be like hey, like a little slap on
the face. No, I'm fucking getting up and I am
I'm going. I mean if I need to come with
an upper cut to just knock your jaw off, and
I'm like, nobody does that, Nobody does it, And I
go in the end, it's probably the right thing to do. Yes,
I mean, she's got her by the head. You gotta
it's insanity.
Speaker 1: Because y'alls just because she didn't want to sit next
to allegedly allegedly a fat woman.
Speaker 3: Yes, and that woman didn't. I mean she didn't even
look she didn't look plump. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say to this. I just
I mean, we we I mean we we see this
because they make the news now, right. I don't think
these things happens often. They just happened, and we remember
the last time it happened. And it feels like yesterday.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, there was just a like you go on there,
type in go on. You can just type in.
Speaker 3: In Google and you're right, they're playing no. Just I
put in Southwest meltdown. I guess some guy must sit
down over somebody's baby videos of the Southwest.
Speaker 1: Okay, so their spirit then there's Southwest's gonna give you
right now? Okay, A are you gonna rank the airlines
that most likely.
Speaker 2: This is gonna happen. I'm telling you those are the ones.
Speaker 1: It's like people of Walmart. It is people of passengers of.
Speaker 3: Southwest starting to think if you want incident free flights,
saying they can't happen on.
Speaker 1: Other flights, you got to go to Delta.
Speaker 2: You've got to know, you've got to go first class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it's somebody in the back's
not going to start a problem and the's not gonna
get off.
Speaker 3: I don't see it. I don't see why is that?
Why do people who are like paying a little bit
more aren't fucked up.
Speaker 1: Because they know much they know how much it's worth.
I don't know, really Southwest at least last time, so
the first time I've ever got in a plane, was
with Tom Ulay and you I was twenty nine. Okay,
how was it even? And your wife at the time
explained to me Southwest is a cattle call, so you
have to check in and then you get whatever seat
you get based on when you're called up to go
in the line. There's no assigned seats. It's just you
just go and just pick your seat or whatever. So
a lot of people just like sit down and the
people whoever who are left have to sit next to
somebody because there's always like everyone wants their own space, right,
so you're gonna be stuck sitting next to somebody you
probably wouldn't choose normally.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3: If I'm flying alone, I'm going like probably the cheapest
and a lot of times what I'll do is I
will not Like most of my recent flights were to
see Jamison when he was in Alabama, and I would
always try to fly into Huntsville instead of Nashville. Southwest
is a Nashville is a hub in Nashville. Nashville's a
hub for Southwestern, Yes, Huntsville, I would I would always
go like American to Charlotte and over.
Speaker 2: I never had an issue. But I can tell you
the Southwest flights they're not that much cheaper. No, they're
really not.
Speaker 1: The bags don't fly for you anymore, No, they don't.
Speaker 3: And so, and I'm not saying Southwest is a bad airline.
Couldn't be around as long as they have become the
brand Spirit and Southwest more is that though, And I
swear to God, there is something I don't I don't
get it.
Speaker 1: I think you got. I hate saying this, but I
would fly Southwest. I have no problems with it because
a lot of they're like direct flights, like Buffalo to Vegas. Oh, yeah,
I'll do that. You'll stop, please, I think I'll do that.
I think it's probably the best of the rest, if
that makes sense. Southwest it's not a bad airline at all,
but you're going to get that level of insophistication in
your passenger versus a Delta or United. I'm an American Airlines.
Speaker 3: I'll say this, if what airline are you more likely
to see people in pajamas and slippers on?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Southwest it's like the Walmart Airlines.
Speaker 2: Southwestern Spirit our Frontier right.
Speaker 1: Looks like okay, Gen like Target everything. Oh, the Tar
they have so much cool stuff. My sister, when we
lived together, she would buy a lot of her furniture
from Target. And he did a study and they found
out that while people think it's cheek to shop at Target,
their stuff breaks, whereas Walmart stuff doesn't break as often.
It actually is sturdier. And this was fifteen years ago,
sturdier and better. But because it was targeted, it was
very sophisticated. But if you go to Walmart or a Target,
you're seeing the same client tele no matter what, especially
the cash register. Okay, it's the same look.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't say I'm judging and I'm being mean
and all this.
Speaker 1: But this is I'm not saying, it's people saying people
will choose to do that.
Speaker 2: I'm judging. I'm judging. I'm judging if I see a
lot of pajamas. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: I can tell a lot about the neighborhood by the
number of self checkouts that are open in the Walmart.
When I go to certain parts of where we live,
they don't they to self checkout.
Speaker 2: Out. Yeah, everybody was stealing. Yes, that's all I'll say.
And I can tell and I know it sounds shitty
and you're gonna going no, it's a fact. It's a fact.
Speaker 1: It's a fact that he's a gentleman. Stereotypes exists for
a reason. It doesn't mean they're always right.
Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes I can go a little bit of shame
goes a far away. I will ask you this, and
in a real almost philosophical way, this is feeds our
need for shaming. This woman can't deny what she did,
or she may not. She may be in such a state,
and who knows if she's on prescription meds and drinking
and that really fucked her up.
Speaker 2: Who knows. Let's say she didn't even do that.
Speaker 1: But she's like, this is gonna be her response.
Speaker 3: But she she can't deny what she did, and she
has to see it herself. And everybody she knows has
seen it, everybody she works with, everybody she's related to,
everybody has seen this. Her family has gotten calls about this, right,
I mean, it's bad. And I go, what happens when
someone's worst moment becomes their most famous moment and that's
all they're sort of remembered for. And I go, I'm
not sure that that's entirely fair, because every one of
us have had made mistakes, and I did something about
a year ago, almost exactly a year ago a little
past where I got in someone's face and I pretty
much ruined a relationship of friendship that not not a relationship,
but a friendship. And if that were caught on viral video,
I would look like a complete asshole. And I the
person was very upset, emotional, and I used the C
word and everything, So I'm not all I'm saying is
my worst moment. I apologize for it. Things have sort
of come around, But could you imagine if that was
out there, that would be every day like that?
Speaker 1: Look like that actual experience that once on Twitter about
five years ago. I made a comment and I ended
up becoming true. But at the time it was run
by a bunch of wokesters and I got attacked and
I had like like retweeted like hat ESPN people were
going at me, barstool people were going at me. Come
to find out I was right. They don't admit that
part though. I mean I was getting people in my
inbox trying to I will educate you on how this works,
and I mean it was just it was awful. And
then they end up doing like a whole Family Guy
episode about it, people like, hey, Dan, is this you
where like Brian gets canceled for a joke he made.
But the point is is like, yeah, when it's out there,
it sucks for a while, but then people hopefully eventually
will get over it go on to something else.
Speaker 3: But something that's going to go to the other thing.
And I think most people are somewhat rational, but we
seem this is this woman's worst moment. Everybody just think
about this for a second. And I know, like, hey,
what about the woman who had her hair pulled?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, I would have. I said to you,
I would probably punch this woman to knock her out
or really hurt.
Speaker 1: Her, and then you would be the person.
Speaker 2: I would But at the end of the day that's
on video. I go, maybe I got a little bit
of a lenience here.
Speaker 1: I think people would defend you, yes, but but that
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: The court of law is not going Salt's assault. Yeah,
you know, and what do we always say, too bad.
Speaker 1: Too still right, we can't have vigil AMPTI justice.
Speaker 3: So I would have been wrong, But that's that person's
worst moment, and they're never I mean shit, if I'm
a close friend.
Speaker 2: That's my Christmas card? Is you having her by the
hair and a real scal on your face and go
Twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Five was interesting, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's
what I would do. But I I I wonder if
if all of this is too much, you know what
I mean, it's too.
Speaker 2: Much, it's too much.
Speaker 1: I tell people the best time in my life, and
I'm talking about my my personal life, but the best
time in America I think, if you take out Rodney King,
was ninety one to ninety four, because I think we
had just enough technology. Yeah, everything was like you know,
yeah you could get not that you want to get
away with anything. But it's like it was like, no,
not everything was a big deal. America was doing well.
We weren't each other's business. We didn't know each other's
private thoughts. We just saw each other at work or
at school and we went home. And life didn't follow
you around. Now life follows you everywhere. You got an
audience no.
Speaker 3: Matter where you go, right, it sucks anyway, interesting, and
I don't know why. I think we see more of
it because maybe it's happening a little bit more. Maybe
prescription meds and alcohol, and people are mixing things and
getting fucked up more than they think they will. People
have cameras. You I mean, if you glance real quick
in the video, you see at least three people filming this.
At least three, so you know what's the deal there.
And the other thing I would say is that you
know those airlines, cheap airlines. I'm kissed off. She flies
to lay you fucked up. I mean, I don't know, dude,
nobody likes to fly.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't know.
Speaker 1: No, no, I like to fly. Nobody wants to fly. Pup,
what do you call it? People only want to fly
private if they nobody wants because airline security, I mean,
the whole thing sucks. It's just it's just no fun.
Once you get past the gate, you're typically okay until
you get on the plane right and then if the
flight work goes smooth and go smoothly, but man, you
gotta you're holding your breath. And if you're in New York, man,
I'll tell you what. LaGuardia and JF was. Okay, Kansas City, Okay,
So LaGuardia is a dump, Okay, JFK is a little
bit better. But the thing is, though, is that the
I think it's like the furthest point from New York
from civilization, these two airports. So the ride to the
airport is actually worse than the flight you're about to
get out. Yeah, it's awful.
Speaker 3: And it's like they used to rip you off hard,
and then they made a law that that had to
be a flat rate. So all the tax taxis at
the time.
Speaker 1: Taxis uber lifts. I mean, it's yeah, kind of the
same right in and right out. But holy cow man,
it sucks. The ride sucks to the airport.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, take a moment. I wanted to tell
you about bt B because I got a hold of
their summer menu.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, summer brunch.
Speaker 2: Well, we are going to do the brunch.
Speaker 1: Summer brunch makes me, which.
Speaker 2: Is your great idea to do?
Speaker 1: The had another big taco. I don't know, I'm trying
to rhyme the song.
Speaker 3: No, but they uh so, you've got they do great
cocktails to match the season. So they're gonna they have
the Ocean Breeze bucket.
Speaker 1: Ocean Breeze bucket.
Speaker 2: This is great. It's a blue chair, Coconut rum, Loganberry vodka.
Speaker 1: Oh Buffalo blue is it? Logan Berry's made in Buffalo?
Speaker 2: Did not know?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Buffalo is known for three foods, wings weck
and loganberry.
Speaker 3: Uh, loganberry, blueberry syrup, pineapple juice and starry. Oh refill
the same day discount and starry it says Ocean breeze bucket. Oh,
the picnic juice bucket. So I wonder if they come
in like little buckets. Oh yeah, probably.
Speaker 2: Oh God, great summer melon they've got these? Sound great?
And then martiniz of the season.
Speaker 1: We have got to the food yet No, well, I
had this shadow.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you.
Speaker 3: The street corn chicken bowl sounds amazing. It's black and
chicken ooh, and it has a kick Mexican street corn,
sliced avocado over rice and creamy Jlipano cream.
Speaker 2: Drizzle, which sounds just amazing to me. I love that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: The Texas potato which I've had, Oh, it is a
huge potato and I'm talking to the size of your head. Uh,
stuffed with cheese, bacon, smoked pulled pork, and the sour
cream drizzle. It is so damn good, so damn good.
Go to bTB roc dot com. They'll have the menu
there beginning of August, or actually the middle of August,
they are gonna have that consort with them Eights and
the Zach Bryant Tribute Band, and it's just going to
be a hell of a lot of fun. And they
do it right out there, they just do. It's a
great atmosphere. That brunch is off the chain. And we
will let you know when we were doing brunch cast,
but we plan to do two this summer on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: Cool brunch casts, awesome.
Speaker 3: ETV, wood Fire, Pizza and Grille in the mall at
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Speaker 3: I always thought she could really sing, like there's some
really good you know that that pop stuff was kind
of shitty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how her verse stuff was.
Speaker 1: Now she's doing medication commercials.
Speaker 2: Is she a song? Yeah? Yeah, you picked me.
Speaker 1: I'm buck to fun. She was huge for like what
eighty four or eighty five?
Speaker 2: What you said? Then you say, so said?
Speaker 1: Good dumb? Why he's yelling off?
Speaker 3: Well, I always tell I don't know why I found
this song to be beautiful in a way it is.
Speaker 2: I really like it. I like the message. I'll be waiting.
Speaker 3: I'm there time after time, and I don't know, maybe
I'm being nostalgic tonight and then thinking about my dad
and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I have thought recently and I even now with him.
I go on average, I got about twenty four years left.
What am I doing?
Speaker 3: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta get the pedal to
the metal, Danny, the pedal to the metal in in
certain ways, you know. I keep trying to think, like
because I somebody's brought up something about a midlife crisis
and they were talking about a friend of ours and.
Speaker 2: They think the person has a midlife No.
Speaker 1: Nice, Okay, do I know this friend?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe living on the podcast? Yeah all right? But
I go, what does a midlife crisis look like?
Speaker 1: In the age if you've always had a chrysis? No?
But I go in the age of remote Mark Killman resident.
Speaker 2: But I go remote work and wellness apps? What what
does a midlife crisis look like? You know what I'm saying?
Like you could?
Speaker 1: I got if we're always anxious, then like, did you
know any different?
Speaker 2: Like I mean, is it the wellness trends? Is it? Is? It?
Is it cold plunges and pickleball and celery juice? I
don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know either because my generation was the MTV
slash Toys r US generation. Right, I'm a Toys r
US kid, and this nostalgia has never stopped because my generation,
apparently except for me, has never stopped playing with its toys.
So I don't know what a bidlife crisis looks like
for somebody like that.
Speaker 2: I think you're still playing with a few toys once
in a while.
Speaker 1: What guitar doesn't count. That's an instrument, all right, it
was a toy toys. I don't play video games. I
don't play with like like little Action.
Speaker 2: Have any action figures anywhere?
Speaker 3: Zero wife putting a puppet show on Penis puppet show
for your wife. I don't know nothing. I do shadow puppets, yeah, no,
but no movie wrestling. Still get into wrestling a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, Wrustley's been so bad. I haven't don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know the products. I don't know. I was
never or I was aware not but never won.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, though, it's like Hulk Hogan, like
was recently in the hospital. They thought he was near death. Yeah,
that wasn't true. TMC said, No, that's not that's not true.
He's had a lot of back issues and he's going
back in and for a while, like, oh my gosh, now,
Hulk Cogan. That's as close as I get to nostalgia
as far as that, and then the bills and stuff.
But they're they're grown men, like watching grown men do
follow sports. I'm talking about toy type stuff, and some
of these guys like, you know, it's like I can't
believe my childhood is over. It's like, are you serious
right now?
Speaker 2: Well I I I will say it's a it's.
Speaker 1: An awful great luxury to have a midlife crisis. There
is nothing more American than having a having the luxury
to have a midlife alight.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a really good statement, I think. I
think it's a really really good statement.
Speaker 1: The rest of the world like looks up at us
and goes, I just want.
Speaker 2: A piece of that.
Speaker 3: Like I was thinking about different things, like you know,
there's a lot in the world, right, There's a lot,
and you're seeing uh different things. I don't know that
we get all the right information all the time.
Speaker 2: I think that we.
Speaker 3: Like the lady we just played, I think that's the
closest thing to the real information we'll get because somebody
just stuck a camera and filmed an incident.
Speaker 2: Then we got to see roth to go out.
Speaker 1: Well, I just thought I was festively.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't be funny if that lady fucking does it like
a hole before and after and you know, change my
life forever.
Speaker 2: And now she's yeah and look at it, Yeah she's so.
But I I do wonder when you see people like
taking stances on things, and how do I say this
with that sound like a complete oh man dick go on.
But but when I see people who are in their
thirties who still are carrying backpacks in a skateboard, I
sometimes go, I don't know how seriously I can take you.
And that's me judging and being an asshole.
Speaker 3: But I see this in your like, you know, you've
got things to say, you have opinions, you're you're entitled
to that. I may not agree, or maybe I do agree,
or maybe you could persuade me, but you sort of
lose me at the skateboard under your arm, in the
backpack on. And only because I associate that with juvenile,
with what would be legally called juveniles. I'm not calling them,
do it. I'm saying legally we would say that's a juvenile.
Someone under seventeen eighteen years old to see an adult
like that. But there are many adults that still carry backpacks.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I carry a like a briefcase, well like an antichee. Yeah,
it's a nice leather bag. The thing broke on it.
I you normally just have it on a strap.
Speaker 2: But that's me.
Speaker 3: That doesn't mean it's everybody else. But when I see
that and I go, boy, maybe I'm just an old
man now and I just see this shit and I go,
I can't necessarily take you all that seriously.
Speaker 1: Oh, I think you have self awareness. And I think
my generation and the general especially the next two generations
called up, have zero self awareness.
Speaker 3: Well, there was a statement that my father used to say,
is like your your generation will be the first generation
to not do better than their parents, right, okay, And
sometimes I equated to now, like when we had the
debate when you were on last and I said, I
think air conditioning and cheap flat screen TVs and free
TV apps. I can watch anything and not really have
to pay any money other than maybe live.
Speaker 2: Sports and stuff.
Speaker 3: I can pretty much see everything and be entertained and
not have to get off my fucking couch to do anything,
which then becomes its own disease in terms of my
disease of comfort, and I go, have we gotten too comfortable?
Have we gotten so spoiled? And look, Tony Hawk is
sixty something year or sothing. You brought him up and
he's still out there doing it.
Speaker 1: But because he can't.
Speaker 2: Yes, But but he was the brand. Yes he was.
Speaker 1: He was the the name a second skateboarder. You can't
not because Tony Hawk, he had.
Speaker 2: His own video games, he was on MTV.
Speaker 1: He made it mainstream.
Speaker 2: It used to be like it was.
Speaker 1: It was a very very uh like like if you
had a skateboard when I was going to school, you're
considered a geek or something like that most people did,
or you were a Punkah okay, It.
Speaker 3: Wasn't like cool was its own culture, need culture, right, yeah,
right in a sentence. But then he made it like,
oh no, it's cool mainstream and you're doing all these
cool tricks. And even if you couldn't do the tricks,
you were like trying to do the tricks, yeah, until
you got hurt, Like oh that's enough.
Speaker 2: But I'd like to watch somebody else do it.
Speaker 3: But there are kids that were doing that, like doing
wild tricks. Tony still comments on what kids are doing
on skateboards and things and even the snowboarding, like I
it's not that's fine. And hey, if you're a forty
year old guy and you can still get out and
do more than an allie on a skateboard and maybe
go to the skate park with your kid who maybe
seven or eight, and you can spend that time, great,
good for you. You probably also have a job and
are doing things in the skateboard is just something you're
doing with your kid. You probably normally wouldn't pull it
out because none of your friends.
Speaker 2: Are doing it. But I go sometimes there just seems
to be I can't take you that seriously when I
look at you and I go not sure, and I
think that people will go that's judgment, that's this. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 1: Of this.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I still google how to boil an egg.
I get it.
Speaker 3: There are certain adulting things that I should know, right,
But I change a tire, yeah, and I can do that,
but people still look that up. Shit, I got to
make a meal from scratch. I wound up buying Jamison
a new uh, a new futon on Father's Day. He
had a fo Tutan that I had, and it was
a metal frame. Worst thing ever, because he's just complained
about it, complained about it. We move, his brother allegedly
helps him put it together. The whole thing collapses. I go, all, right,
fuck this, we're just getting rid of this. So I
go on marketplace only because I'm like any brand new frame,
I don't feel like having a Let's just see what
we can give on.
Speaker 2: So this lady and I go back and forth, said
someone's coming to look at it, but we need to
get this out of here. We show up.
Speaker 3: It's at a nice condo and a nice part of town,
and I think this move. This lady's downsizing. And we
get there and it's her older woman and her friend,
and the friend is the one kind of directing the show.
The other woman is just sitting there like she's just
kind of like had just fucking had it right. She
apparently run this sale all weekend. They go half of
what we were asking for. It's upstairs. So I go
upstairs and I go, I didn't bring my tools because
I didn't think i'd have to write, so I got
to take it downstairs. And then they're like, hey, there's
a chair up. So I called Jordan. I go, buddy,
I don't know if you have somebody with a truck
or whatever. He goes like, don't, but I'll meet you.
So he's over and they go, hey, there's a chair
up there. It's a recliner. Can you just bring that
down for us? Like we became fast friends with these people,
and so I wind up taking this thing apart and
we were so dumb, like we couldn't get it back together.
And I finally watched a video. Yes, I go, you
can figure anything out now, Yes, And that's where I go.
I will sometimes go, what is the best way? I
think it's eight minutes in boiling water with a little
bit of oil and then take them out, put them
in an ice bath right away, and then that's the
best boiled egg.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, but I had to google that. Jamison
used to make fun of me because I was like,
how do your baked chicken? Well?
Speaker 1: You know what though, But at the end of the day, well,
I'm trying.
Speaker 2: I'm doing it on my own. Yeah, right, I'm there.
I'm trying, but it's just it's just funny.
Speaker 1: Robin Williams a missus doubtfire. We need to learn how
to do everything on his own. He's taking notes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, and I know it sounds dumb,
but there are certain things. My point is, like everybody
needs a little bit of help with things we should
know as adults, right, And.
Speaker 3: I don't just because you have a skateboard doesn't mean
that you're an idiot and I shouldn't listen to you.
But when you got a skateboard and a backpack and
that's your main transportation, I guess at a certain age,
if you're over sixty and you're doing it, people go,
fuck man, you see him ripping around town. I would go,
that's kind of cool if you could do it. Yeah,
when you're thirty and you're doing it, I can go,
what do you hold him on to?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think like I think the word we use last
show that we take was arrested development phrase. I think
there's a lot more of that. And I think a
lot of it is because you know, your father's generation,
my father's generation, the boomers, they kind of they you know,
they had steady jobs. There were more opportunity, I want
to say more opportunities, but there are opportunities if you
were in high school, college, whatever, to go work, and
they made a comfortable lives. They made comfortable lives for
us because their parents generation was the World War two
slash Great, the pressure generation. Everything sucked, everything was hard.
They came home, they were pissed off, they had PTSD,
they did not how to deal with this all the time,
and then like made things harder. So then that every
generation has been proportionately more forgiving, more understanding, and then
we've gotten to a point now where we're soft. We're
just soft, and we long for yesterday instead of trying
to focus on progress.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I don't look at myself as a
forty five year old man, I really don't. I just
look at myself as hey, I'm just going to try
to do better today than I did yesterday.
Speaker 2: Well sometimes until I die.
Speaker 3: I think that we underestimate the power of discipline, We
underestimate the power of structure, and sometimes when we don't
have structure, came ass kind of breaks out and we
go all over the place and we let our emotions
run wild, and then somebody comes in and kind of
kicks our kicks us our ass or does something or
tightens us up, and we don't like it at first,
but it's sort of what we're craving. And it's almost
like if you go back and you read you talk
to psychologist and things, kids need structure. Kids crave structure.
They like that stuff. I know, I'm better when I
have to be accountable to somebody than I am when
I'm just kind of freeballing it, right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I like to freeball as well. I think Jamison freeball
the other day and then told me you had a
real chafing Why are you walking like? I got the walls,
but there was no clean under it.
Speaker 2: I go, you gotta fucking laundry right there to do it. Yeah, Jesus,
you know anyway?
Speaker 1: Couple, Yeah, couple, but yeah, yeah, I get it. I
totally get it.
Speaker 2: That's all, you know. I just the Danny's become supplement
people in middle aged not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I'm really become skeptical over the last month about things
about what about everything?
Speaker 2: Like what now?
Speaker 1: After the last podcast we taped, I'm I walked away going,
do I really think all this stuff? Know what I'm
talking about?
Speaker 3: You said things that I I I won't say it here,
but I have a theory on it. I have a
theory on some stuff with you go on, you want
to hear it for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it bad?
Speaker 2: Not necessarily? Okay? I think you said things like this.
Speaker 1: If it is bad, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think you said things like the stephen A. Smith thing.
And you're like, when did when the midday talk show becomes.
Speaker 1: When the midday talk when the midday audience dictates the
national conversation, we have a problem.
Speaker 3: But here was my thing is I want to go
But it's not. It's not the midday audience anymore. And
don't forget. You've got a lot of people who still
work remotely and you still so they have TVs on.
I remember walking into offices of gms and stuff and
they had ESPN on all the time. But now, just
like with our podcast, clips get out there and so
people see it and it's on your phone, and so
I get a lunch break and I go and I
watch it. And I don't think it's the people that
you're describing, as we'll call them, the Southwest people.
Speaker 2: Maybe order, but I don't think it's necessarily a lot
of those. And I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: You're not wrong, but I think you're wrong for our
time today. I don't think that is the case, and
that guy transcends that. He's also on the NBA stuff,
He's on the Howard Stern Show, He's written a book recently,
he's gotten a lot of press, so it transcends just
that thing. And I don't think he's necessarily digging. Because
I started thinking about it, I go, if I went
out on the street and asked twenty five people, who
is Stephen A.
Speaker 2: Smith?
Speaker 3: Just random people, I mean, all walks to life, I
think I would get more often than not. I don't know,
or isn't he that guy who?
Speaker 2: And that's it?
Speaker 3: But I don't know that people are all that locked
in as you are. And I think that you get
angry at these guys because you believe you're as good
and didn't get your chance. And I think that that's
a fair thing to say. I think I think this
stuff you write for the Times Wayne County is excellent.
I think when you're talking like the bills even here,
sometimes I wish you'd take a fucking breath, you're like
a freight train going through. But your stuff is all
well thought out, really really, I mean it's really good.
It is, and I'm not just blowing smoke up your
grass and people go, you're just kissing. No, I'm no
reason to, I have no reason to none.
Speaker 2: But the point is, like it is really good.
Speaker 3: And I think that you get pissed when you see
these other guys because you got kind of boned along
the way.
Speaker 1: Or or whatever, or you got caught up back.
Speaker 2: It's not but it's that that I think held you back.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I mean, let's put
it this way. I was playing a band. I had
a drummer named Ian. Ian is a guy who is
easily the most talented drummer in Rochester. There's nobody even close.
Nobody even close. Yeah, And I know, and I know
that there's people in town who will like hate me
for saying that. No, just just drum against him. If
he's sober or even if he's in the bag. He
could play anything like rush like you name it. Every
beat Neil Peart can play, he could play. And I
think along the line in Los Angeles he missed a
turn somewhere and ended up just working as a cover
band drummer and just you know, end up here because
of family reasons or whatever. The guy's phenomenal. I think
somewhere along the line, I had an opportunity I didn't
take and I missed a turn somewhere, and I wish
I had taken it, but I didn't take it out
of fear. And it wasn't because I was afraid that
I couldn't perform. I was afraid of logistics in a situation,
a living situation with my sister and travel, and I
was broke, and I let my fears overtake it, and
then I that dragon ever since, or told myself, you know,
would rather do this instead, which was the break crew.
Rather it was but when you when you but like
when you're in your thirties and you're getting paid a
producer's salary, which isn't much guys.
Speaker 2: Uh, it was and I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1: Eighteen to twenty four thousand dollars a year, Okay. I
started at eighteen, mind you, at twenty eight years old,
as an established who already worked at another radio station
that did well other a couple of them. Yeah, I
mean that that that's pover and stricken type of stuff.
Like Tommy used to call me the working poor, remember,
and it killed relationships, It drove me into and I
own all the choices I made. Okay, I want to
be perfectly clear about that, and I don't blame anybody
else for anything. It's just it's this was all Dan.
But yeah, I do get frustrated because I watched these
guys and by the way, Steven A. Smith is more
talented than I am. There, No, that's not what I mean, Okay,
but I watched their opinions. I'm like, do you do
your homework? And then I watched local guys and listen
to local guys, and I'm not talking just Rochester, I'm
talking Buffalo.
Speaker 2: What the F I know?
Speaker 1: Do you know how to ask a question at a
press conference? My favorite moment in my career, well, I
do this as far as sports goes. I loved working
with Brad Davies. I love doing sports at CMF. I
love doing a talk show. But my favorite moment Tiger
Woods is in town for the PGA Championship and you
and I are credentialed. Peter Montemurno is sitting next to us.
We're in the press room, Tiger's about to speak, and
the station that had, you know, laid me off was
right behind this whim and they had ten guys there,
including the guys from Channel thirteen, and the MIC's going
around and all these national reporters are asking questions, and
I put my hand up. I want to ask Tiger
a question. And I can hear a little that's good,
is yeah?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: I grabbed the mic and I go, hey, Tiger. Michael
Jordan always said that he felt bad for his children
because they're always expected to live up to him. Do
you have any advice for your son Charlie if he's
going to go into golf? And what advice would that be?
And he gave a two and a half minute answer
that went viral before viral became a thing. And I
wanted to look back at those guys and then you
said the sports Leader, not a single one of you,
mother effors asked a single.
Speaker 2: Question because I will fight for the I know the
people that But I was like, but I had no business.
I had no business.
Speaker 1: No, but I'm glad you said it because I wanted
to say it, and I just didn't say it.
Speaker 2: I know, but I had no business projecting defending, like
fighting your.
Speaker 1: Battle, and I didn't care though I actually enjoyed that.
Speaker 3: Well, I would get mad because I thought you when
it came to the sports stuff was good. I think
sometimes you run away, and I think sometimes you're The
bitterness you feel, the anger about this stuff is red hot.
Speaker 2: I do think that.
Speaker 3: I think if you were able to touch it, it's
like volcanic level red hot. I know what that's like,
trust me, yes, and I can see it. And I
think sometimes that stuff, that frustration was what other people
saw and saw as well. He just kind of flies off.
He doesn't he's not, you know, and.
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I got it. I got a reputation for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that that's the problem. That's why
I keep saying to you, do whatever you want. I'll
help you do it.
Speaker 3: I mean not that I'm gonna be able to help you,
but you're here. I love having you on. If you
wanted to do your own thing and you wanted to
do it through here, you can. If you don't want
to do through here, you don't have it.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that leading up the football season.
It's finding the time and the ability to do it.
Speaker 3: Even if you did a fifteen minute podcast. Believe me, people,
I mean ours is long. When I talk to people,
go that's a long time.
Speaker 2: It is, And I get it. I got a lot
of stupid things I say, but.
Speaker 3: Just I mean, if you were able to condense it
down and keep it to that tight thing you know,
inside Dan's head or whatever, Yeah, I think it could go.
I think could really blow up, especially if it was
done the right way.
Speaker 2: And it's just the thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I'm telling you, I think there's a way to
do that, the writing stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm not the only one who was recognized that,
no kidding, No, Well other people have told you that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I thought you might know so
many other people like I know that like your old
brother brother Weasy, he of mine apparently, which I really appreciate.
That means a lot to me. It really does. When
he's reading my article like on the air, word for word,
I'm like, wow, because that was long.
Speaker 2: That's a very nice thing.
Speaker 1: It is a great thing. It's encouraging, you know.
Speaker 2: Yes, And that's why I'm saying, all right, So I
think we need to just kind of wrap it up,
do you mind?
Speaker 1: Well, I thought there's other stuff you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 1: Wasn't there somebody who had an issue with something else
I said last week about medicaid or something.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I yeah, I sent you.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason the reason I wanted to bring that
up is this because I want feel I wasn't walking
out of here on Saturday thinking about the Stephen A.
Smith stuff. My sports opinion, you pretty much can go. Right.
So we're talking about we're talking about Rachel Barnhardt and
holding up a sign with Joe Morelli, Adam Bellow and
Sheriff Baxter saying how they all either didn't speak about
ICE or support ICE. And I said, look, the first
two whatever, But Baxter, dude, that guy is the best
thing that's happened to Monroe County in a long time. Okay,
And I don't think the criticism is fair. And my
whole point was if people are here illegally, it would
be like somebody going into your house, say I'm staying here. Well,
you don't have permission to do that.
Speaker 2: What do you call?
Speaker 1: You call the police? And ICE are kind of like
the National police for illegals. But I walked away going hmm,
is there more nuance to this than just black and white?
And of course there is. And I did a little
homework on it and realized, Okay, the government more often
than not. Dan, and you should know this likes to
squash gnats with sledge hammers. And that's where we're at
right now. And that's where we're at with Iran and
Israel right now. And that's where where I with a
lot of things.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I want President Trump to succeed. I've never been a
Trump guy, but I'm like, he's the president, and I
thought he was the better of two options, so I
went with him. This is the only time I ever
voted for the dude, only time. But it's okay, okay, fine, whatever.
Speaker 3: No I hate Look, I've said this, I have said
all along, just as interject here for it's like that
I want him to be successful. Yes, because because it
will be successful, and the majority of spoken, that's what
this is all about. I have you know, from that angle,
I have no problem.
Speaker 1: But there was somebody who actually may have been hurt
by what I said about Medicaid. All I said was
like I've been on it, I know what it's like,
and I don't want people's benefits to be stripped from them.
Cause I said the titlement programs when I met was
people free loading, like like people who come here to
this country, used to cause problems and pillage and take
what's not theirs. I'm not talking about people who've lived
here and sweated their ass off and like, hey, I'm
going through a tough time right now. Because I do believe,
in a weird sense, and even though I wasn't a
fan of Lbj's the great society, that we can take
care of each other, We can help each other out,
and I don't want to see people lose their benefits
all that stuff, But I do think we have to
look at it objectively.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I think the private sector is better at handling things, yes,
than the government space Love him or hate him with
Elon Foss, He's really pushed space forward for NASA and
everybody more than I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: He's raised the bar. So now we got to catch up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I sometimes wonder if and I believe
that most people will tell you that they don't want
to see human suffering. I really believe that, no matter
where they stand politically, but what they don't want to
see is wasteful things. I'm paying into something for somebody
who doesn't who doesn't work, And I often think when
it comes to taxes and stuff, I don't know where
my money goes. I have absolutely no idea, right, so, love,
I want my tax dollars. And my stupid answer back is,
I don't know where my tax dollars go.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I elected people I voted. Hopefully they're doing the right stuff.
If they're not, then we need to get them out.
But I don't even have the time to really dig
into it, and I don't think most people do. And
so when it comes to this sort of stuff, I
often think could private sector better handle taking care of people?
Could we have, you know, like when you have these
private food pantries and these private things, Like there's a
lot of ways that people I don't know. I don't
know when it comes to healthcare. But here's the thing
that you know, all of us need to realize. Anybody
shows up in an emergency room for any reason at all,
they must be seen and taken care of.
Speaker 2: Is that a bad thing?
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, but if they can't pay, then and it
falls back on us. And that's why a lot of
times hospitals do try to raise private funds again to
have buckets that they.
Speaker 2: Can go, all right, we're gonna pay for that. With
this right, we're gonna cover that with this. They budget
for it.
Speaker 3: And I was trying to say a lot of times,
we need people to come into this country, much like
your relatives, my relatives.
Speaker 2: I had a great grandmother that came over at nine,
and I don't know that she was necessarily an indentured servant,
but she needed to wash clothes, and at least that's
what I was told.
Speaker 3: Maybe the story gets greater later. I don't know, but
she was nine and not with her family. That's a
pretty traumatic thing in a country that she's not familiar with,
with customs that are a little bit new. And you know,
I think the same thing for people coming here who
are maybe trying to pick onions in Alba or apples
and Wayne County or whatever. It is just trying to
make a better life and there isn't an easy way
to do it legally. There just isn't. And that needs
to be fixed. And I'm not smart enough to fix that.
And I don't know about the visa stuff and all
this thing, but I think your analogy of you know,
a sledgehammer with nats again, I go back to it.
It's just like in the school, right, and when you
were a kid. You're gonna ruin it for everybody if
you don't shut your mouth. You brought that up, and
I feel like it's the small amount, But all I
need is one to murder my loved one.
Speaker 2: And how am I going to feel? How am I
going to feel about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like hard, you know, it's like the hard
cases that.
Speaker 3: But then when I go, oh, it's it's easy for
me to say, it's one guy. It wasn't my wife
that may have been physically harmed, or my child that
was taken or murdered or whatever. So that's the stuff
where I always go, boy, you're right, there's a lot
of nuance.
Speaker 1: And and I just I just I hope that they
eventually get to the bottom because there's a lot of
slippery slopes. And one thing about politicians are very clever
about being able to link unnecessary things to necessary. If
you take away yeah right, so if you take away
the unnecessary, O, wait a minute, but we need that
stop And yeah, no kidding, it's it's it's frustrating, but
I just didn't want people to think I was this
heartless jerk, wrote.
Speaker 2: In And I waited a couple of days and then
I sent.
Speaker 1: Which is fine. You just send me whatever you want.
Speaker 2: I want people to tell me.
Speaker 1: I want people to I want I want feedback on
the show.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I get things like, oh, dating ze, run it
all over, but I don't tell you because I don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, then I do, and I shouldn't. I got to
be better about that.
Speaker 2: But then I thought, well, I'll send them this one
because I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's fine, just send it, send it all.
Speaker 2: I'm not sending it at all. Filter things.
Speaker 1: The one thing I was worried about because I've been
friends with you, and I have been friends with Rachel
Barnard for years. I don't anybody think that I say
anything bad about her. It was Mark all the way,
and he admits that. But people hear things, they go, hey,
do you know what dance? No, I didn't say anything that.
Speaker 2: Don't worry. It's like my whole life has been that. Right.
Remember I got yelled at by the district attorney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right for something Tommy said, like, I didn't say that,
I did. I gotta yelled at one.
Speaker 2: I had to listen. I just had to listen.
Speaker 1: I got ye on my birthday by Nikki Rudd for
something Tommy and you joked around about on the show,
and I'm like, I have nothing to do with that.
When we're at the show, I'm like, I can't dump everything.
We would have a show. It will be four hours of.
Speaker 2: I'm not babe.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you right now, I am going to
stay away from any comment on that story.
Speaker 2: As old as it is.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what the story was.
Speaker 3: I can tell you off air as old as that
story is. And we are talking fifteen years yes, right,
well we're twenty.
Speaker 1: It's twenty ten. Okay, so sixteen years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I bringing it up because those kind of things come
haunting back. And again I didn't say it either, but
I know I got a.
Speaker 1: Lot of shit for it, did you?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did make it. Yeah, yes, you're You're the
line of defense. We had no defense in that comment,
was you.
Speaker 2: I got all kinds of you and me Facebook messages.
Speaker 1: And one time time he goes, bro, who in a
thought in the history of this show that the only
guy to KNA get suspended would be made?
Speaker 2: Remember you?
Speaker 3: And I got suspected because I said, it's a fucking
wrap song, and I hit.
Speaker 1: The dump button, hit the dumb button didn't work.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I was pissed at Tommy and I said that I
was mad at him. So I and instead of saying
I'm pissed at you, I just said it's a fucking
wrap that there was no point to it. That's a
healthy My My agent fucking chewed my ass out.
Speaker 1: What did he really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But he worked for you, Uh yeah, and he
was his idea was protected. He goes, it's the dumbest
thing in the world. Why would you say a swear
a cursed word in front of a live microphone? Ever?
Speaker 3: At any point in your life? Have you heard the
show he did? And he goes, I don't understand why,
at any point.
Speaker 1: I'd have to hit the button at least sixteen times
an episode. Yeah, but still, I did a pretty good
track record up until what time I hit it. I
just did work, good old days.
Speaker 2: That's all right, that's all right, we're gonna wrap it up.
I'm sorry. I just for Dann Burrell.
Speaker 1: Oh, pray for your dad, Billy.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, guys. I don't know what to pray for.
Do you understand what I'm saying? Piece, I just go
I just pray.
Speaker 1: I guess that the ability for him to handle every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. That's all.
Speaker 1: Give him a strength to handle each day until you
call him home. I My thing would be, I know
people were praying for death for their loved ones, and
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3: No, I understand because sometimes it's the best option. Yes, Uh,
my thing would be, I pray for that keep I would.
I want him to keep his dignity. He's a yeah,
a proud he is a true gentleman. I've had people
say to me that, you know, there are things that
I do that I don't even instinctly go away, You're
really a gentleman. And I was like, well, that's how
you were raised, That's how I was raised. I tried
to raise my boys that way. I'm not sure that
I did a good job.
Speaker 2: But he is a true, true gentleman, like an old
school gentleman, and like.
Speaker 3: I remember even going to grandparents' day at one of
the kids' schools when they were teenagers.
Speaker 2: Three piece suit, tweet, three piece suit.
Speaker 3: You know, I mean the guy and he was a
new mismanners guide to perfect etiquette and would make jokes
about it but knew it.
Speaker 2: And I mean he was, and so I go in
the end. May he please be able to preserve the
dignity all the way.
Speaker 1: Sana says, You're not supposed to wait for everybody get served.
You just eat.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, that was the other thing, like,
oh yeah, yeah, I was a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry, give me my skull.
Speaker 2: And he's still here. So yeah, I'm talking like he's gone.
He's not. He's still here.
Speaker 1: Uh should we do living funerals? Should it be our
next bitch?
Speaker 2: We did? Remember we did? Didn't we do? Oh no,
we did obituaries, but bituary for Dan Barilla. I'm Bill Moran.
We'll see you Monday. I was never paying nothing, but anyway,
weren't there. They didn't do this, Frands