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Speaker 2: Hey you, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Eye on the
Speaker 2: Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera
Speaker 2: and today with me is Dave silver Henry running the board.
Speaker 2: There's no problems today. It's Wednesday. And as I like
Speaker 2: to call it at you of eight, the future is here.
Speaker 2: The future is here. What does that mean? It doesn't know.
Speaker 2: We will know till four or five years, if Brennan
Speaker 2: is still a coach and the recruits are signed and
Speaker 2: delivered and if they're already good. Yeah. Always takes a while, huh.
Speaker 2: It takes a while. How many times I don't even
Speaker 2: know as a freshman coming in and you know, done
Speaker 2: really really well and say, oh good, I'm glad we
Speaker 2: got him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Not very often t mac, especially especially in football, and
Speaker 3: it almost always seems like it takes, you know, a
Speaker 3: year or two at least, once they get here and
Speaker 3: get drunk.
Speaker 2: You got you. Gronk was here in first year. He
Speaker 2: was a quick one, but he was so highly touted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so he was as promised, Yes, as promise. Tem Mac
Speaker 2: was as promised. Yes. I remember seeing him right away
Speaker 2: against calendar. He would come up with these catches as
Speaker 2: if they did for anything they did that was a
Speaker 2: good thing that they did. Yeah, Kateen, I think was
Speaker 2: that way a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the
Speaker 2: thing is too, Team AC wasn't supposed to be theirs.
Speaker 2: He was somebody else's. Yeah, yeah, Kadeen, There's been a few,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, I'd have to go back and see,
Speaker 2: but today was that day. They got a few people right,
Speaker 2: and after three five d five months of what are
Speaker 2: we doing? There was a little hope. There was always hopeful.
Speaker 3: I mean you almost have to kind of turn the
Speaker 3: page when when days like this happened, where you can
Speaker 3: look to the future, as you said, and you sort
Speaker 3: of see who's coming. And but so much is going
Speaker 3: to happen between now and say spring football. You know,
Speaker 3: the roster is going to probably flip almost completely. I
Speaker 3: would I would think in some of the coaches might
Speaker 3: be working for other jobs, or new coaches are coming in,
Speaker 3: so who knows.
Speaker 2: Well know tomorrow, because he said Brett and said in
Speaker 2: the press conference initially early that he's meeting with them
Speaker 2: tomorrow and he's going to have a talk with the
Speaker 2: media afterward. So I guess is he'll lose two or three, well,
Speaker 2: not lose talking coaches, coaches, Yeah, yeah, and playing. I'm
Speaker 2: sure players are still going to decide what they're going
Speaker 2: to do, because if you get rid of their coaches, right,
Speaker 2: you get rid of them.
Speaker 3: Was it yesterday? Was it Speedy Luke? One of the
Speaker 3: one of the guys Luke?
Speaker 2: And there had been rumors and maybe I fell a
Speaker 2: trap into that hearing that Fafita may have decided to go,
Speaker 2: but that's not true at this moment. Yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean, really, it's we just have to kind of wait,
Speaker 3: there is there's I mean, unless you're in the family
Speaker 3: and know these guys personally, sure, so many decisions will come,
Speaker 3: you know, influenced by parents and friends and and different
Speaker 3: relatives and you know, other coaches that might see an
Speaker 3: opening where they can get this guy.
Speaker 2: So who knows. So you're in the sports business for
Speaker 2: a thousand years. You went to the academic academic say
Speaker 2: you went to this the charity side, Yes, uh, academics
Speaker 2: last charity? Is that fair to say academics kind of No,
Speaker 2: no charity, it's it's fundraising, fundraising, okay, development, development, Okay,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that means. So so I was gonna
Speaker 2: ask you. I was thinking today and watching the press coverage.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of the eighty kids that they get or
Speaker 2: on roster, how many of them care about academics. I'm
Speaker 2: a serious question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think most of them with I would
Speaker 3: think the reason they're coming to a college is they
Speaker 3: understand they have to take care of some academics. Well,
Speaker 3: it may not be the number one priority, Okay, fair,
Speaker 3: I mean I would think most sixty Yeah, I would,
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: I would guess.
Speaker 3: We would, you know, we would sort of have a
Speaker 3: pretty good idea way back when when kids were not
Speaker 3: going to class, usually had some grad assistant that was
Speaker 3: running around, had to go look for hey, ill come
Speaker 3: a cornerbacks not in class today kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I think nowadays nowadays you don't
Speaker 2: hear anything about academics. Yeah, because they have a thousand
Speaker 2: people trying to make sure everything is.
Speaker 3: Okay, and so many classes are online now, so sometimes
Speaker 3: do you even know if you're if if that student
Speaker 3: is there. I guess there's there's got to be a
Speaker 3: way that they've sort of checked in. But physically being
Speaker 3: in the classroom maybe isn't you know, something has to
Speaker 3: happen every day now. But I would still think that,
Speaker 3: you know, they're going to a college and they someone's
Speaker 3: you know, helping them out with you know, either with tuition.
Speaker 3: Some of them are art on scholarships.
Speaker 2: So so those eighty, how many of them are thinking
Speaker 2: about pros? Probably fifty? Oh that's all I thought. You
Speaker 2: could say eighty? Is that what they agreed? Yeah, they
Speaker 2: if they're coming here, they think they have a chance.
Speaker 2: Thinks to have a chance. Yeah, that's what everybody, all
Speaker 2: the ex guys, Oh no, they're coming. They're coming because
Speaker 2: they think they can play. I don't know. I'm curious
Speaker 2: you and I think six to fifteen maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But I mean, like with basketball, it seems
Speaker 3: like it's different basketball.
Speaker 2: You know, damn, I'm going to sign in Arizona my
Speaker 2: next step, that's right.
Speaker 3: The Nuggets, Yeah, sometimes, I mean they got Aaron Gordon and.
Speaker 2: Zeke Well sometimes it's very rare. I don't know what
Speaker 2: the percentage is. You probably google it, you know, to
Speaker 2: five percent something like that. They go to the pros
Speaker 2: you go to the Prosy. Yeah it's not even that.
Speaker 2: Probably yeah, probably not even that. And they go to
Speaker 2: Europe and they play. They probably make more money in
Speaker 2: college than they will ever professionally in any sport.
Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting some decisions these guys are
Speaker 3: going to be making, uh, with the with the with basketball.
Speaker 2: I'm talking here in.
Speaker 3: Terms of whether or not they go to go to
Speaker 3: Europe or stay you know in college where you can
Speaker 3: make you know, some good money here.
Speaker 2: Take cut a couple of years to get a pay cut,
Speaker 2: going to.
Speaker 3: Go playing you know, Belarus or something. Yeah, who knows
Speaker 3: what you're gonna.
Speaker 2: Get, And majority of them do because it's very rare
Speaker 2: that they get an NFL, NBA contract or they have
Speaker 2: to go overseas, and hey, let me take something. I
Speaker 2: wish I had that future rather than mine, because you know,
Speaker 2: you can get half a million, four hundred thousand whatever
Speaker 2: it is, sure h and play basketball to your you
Speaker 2: know whatever age and then come back and then the
Speaker 2: real world and then you become Dave Silver and Steve Rore.
Speaker 3: I just remember, and we'll see this, you know, in
Speaker 3: four years from today when they look at this recruiting
Speaker 3: class to go, well, what happened to that guy? Well,
Speaker 3: it's always you know, half the class first of all
Speaker 3: doesn't maybe doesn't even qualify to get into college.
Speaker 2: College. Yeah, tissue. We did that all the time, because
Speaker 2: you can't evaluate a classroom. Now, No, you know, Hey,
Speaker 2: how are you? I love you? Okay? Four years later
Speaker 2: we're up to the girl you were, Well we were
Speaker 2: no longer together. Yeah, I mean, how many four stars
Speaker 2: are they going to have? Oh? A few? Hearing? Does
Speaker 2: it matter? Do you know where you're at? Well? No,
Speaker 2: they did a couple four stars in this class. Yeah,
Speaker 2: two I think so. Oh, I didn't even I watched
Speaker 2: a past press conference and who was on the press
Speaker 2: conference Brendan. Oh he's already talked about Yeah, come in
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes. Okay, yeah, he's he was. He was fine.
Speaker 2: He was good. He was more affable actually talking about
Speaker 2: the future and tomorrow with the other coaches and things.
Speaker 2: You know, he just needs I don't know what do
Speaker 2: I know? I guess had this radio show. It's the
Speaker 2: Fraser Crane syndrome. I've told you this way, the Fraser
Speaker 2: Crane Show, Remember the show. No, this is what he did.
Speaker 2: He could figure out everybody problems, but he couldn't figure
Speaker 2: out his own. Okay, and you know what, I'm Frasier Greene.
Speaker 2: I could figure out the football program, but I can't
Speaker 2: pay my ELECTRICI well, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: know what you mean, you know what you mean. So
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with him. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: moving parts. You know.
Speaker 3: He's got you know, these coaching situations, players coming and going.
Speaker 3: You know, he's looking at his peers that are going
Speaker 3: to playoff games and things like that. And then the
Speaker 3: fans here kind of turned against the program in the
Speaker 3: last month especially, so.
Speaker 2: He's got a lot to think about, right and guess what,
Speaker 2: he's on the clock. He's on the clock, and we've
Speaker 2: all been told he's going to short lease. Yeah. Now
Speaker 2: he's got to make things happen, make things change, maybe
Speaker 2: change his personality, uh, to be more vocal or out
Speaker 2: there or whatever.
Speaker 3: Well, definitely, you know, he can't in with with some
Speaker 3: pretty good fan fare. There was a lot of change,
Speaker 3: you know, in administration wise at the UFA with the
Speaker 3: new president and a d and everything, but they didn't
Speaker 3: put him out in the public and he I don't
Speaker 3: know if it was his problem or.
Speaker 2: Decision, that it's the choice of the coach. Things have
Speaker 2: changed so much. In fact, she had a good, uh
Speaker 2: a good tweet out yesterday that and I'm gonna ask
Speaker 2: you this, and you have no touch to Arizona, right,
Speaker 2: They're not going to cut off your your no after
Speaker 2: what even better you just be really uh that the Arizona,
Speaker 2: Arizona as a whole specifically, you know, the school doesn't
Speaker 2: have a good emergency system. Uh. For for I have
Speaker 2: to go back to to Christis managed, Cristist management, and
Speaker 2: they just don't. In sports, they definitely don't. And and
Speaker 2: you you were in the business where if something happened,
Speaker 2: they shut up, they shut down, and the less said
Speaker 2: the better. You'd always get that.
Speaker 3: You know, there's not available for comments type situation right
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean I think they have to be careful.
Speaker 3: You know, there's legal issues if there's something like that
Speaker 3: where privacies involved.
Speaker 2: Or there were legal issues. When we covered it, they
Speaker 2: were less, they were less reluctant to talk. I mean
Speaker 2: there were more they would talk more about it. Now
Speaker 2: it's like what you know, sorry.
Speaker 3: You'd find about you guys are good reporters. We would
Speaker 3: we could find stuff I used to dread. Again, it
Speaker 3: was different TV maybe was different. But you know when
Speaker 3: I get that call, you know, at ten o'clock in
Speaker 3: the morning, like oh, you know, so and so was arrested,
Speaker 3: and like, oh gosh, Yeah, it was hard.
Speaker 2: It was hard to do.
Speaker 3: That was just basically had to flip your job description
Speaker 3: from you know, kind of you know, just giving the
Speaker 3: facts and talking about the game and talking about these
Speaker 3: players to something maybe a little bit more serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, more police reporters. Yeah. And I wasn't trained in that,
Speaker 2: just didn't. I didn't even know who to call. Yeah, honestly, right, no,
Speaker 2: because you're dealing with the Toy Department and that's what
Speaker 2: we all thought we were getting into. And then you
Speaker 2: have DeLaura with his accusations or what are alleged stuff,
Speaker 2: and right, and then Khalid back in the day with
Speaker 2: his ledge and Stoff you remember that, I'm sure. And
Speaker 2: that's when I first came on board, like ninety one
Speaker 2: ninety two, and I was chasing people down and calling
Speaker 2: no one talking and blah blah blah. But you know,
Speaker 2: some people talk than Thankfully.
Speaker 3: Some of those guys had like agents almost when they
Speaker 3: were here.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. They had to retain lawyers too. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: have lawyers.
Speaker 3: There was there was a few lawyers that were kind
Speaker 3: of like the U of a athletic lawyers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever there was trouble. Yeah, and that's the downside
Speaker 2: of the business. But but it's part of the business.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Yeah. We're going to see how how Brendan
Speaker 2: handles the next year. I think he'll be out there more.
Speaker 2: I think it stopped, to my point earlier. I think
Speaker 2: it stopped after Alive and Good left. Greg came in,
Speaker 2: buttoned it down a little bit more, became more corporate.
Speaker 2: He he had a coach and Sean Miller who didn't
Speaker 2: like the media to begin with, right, so he shut
Speaker 2: it down. There only a couple of people talking.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: The whole system is that I'll bring who I want
Speaker 2: to bring in and talk. If I were the guy,
Speaker 2: if I were the SID guy or had some kind
Speaker 2: of I would say, make more people available, become more
Speaker 2: of fan friendly, more media friendly. What do you have
Speaker 2: to lose next year? Guess what? Not very many people
Speaker 2: going to buy tickets. What do you have to sell yourself?
Speaker 2: For sure? Yourself?
Speaker 3: I think they have been pretty good about doing these
Speaker 3: little remote events in the summertime. I think they did,
Speaker 3: like a road trip or something through the state of Arizona,
Speaker 3: but they need to expand that. They need to get
Speaker 3: it back into southern California or go to Texas.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the administrators. I'm just I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the coaches. Yeah, yeah, coach including Brennan, who should be
Speaker 2: part of that. I think he I think he was.
Speaker 3: But those road trip things, I mean they were they
Speaker 3: were little news stories that we could cover in the
Speaker 3: middle of July that had no other news going on,
Speaker 3: and those are good chances.
Speaker 2: Well you were going to get a camera out there,
Speaker 2: though you had a camera somewhere, did you shoot? So
Speaker 2: sometimes I think I like your the footage. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think they do. They do photos now, at least
Speaker 2: with social but I think you're onto something. Do it
Speaker 2: more locally and go it's a big it's a bigger
Speaker 2: city now, I mean it's Mayberry has expanded northwest side,
Speaker 2: east side, south side, central, make them more available. They
Speaker 2: have to sell themselves a lot of ways. If Tommy
Speaker 2: doesn't do well this year, there people already bitching honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Tommy won't mind it. He's you know, hey, how
Speaker 2: you don't he kisses babies and shakes hands. Brennan has
Speaker 2: not Jed did, I guess to agree, but he was
Speaker 2: kind of maybe doing it because you needed to.
Speaker 3: I mean, even Jed was good with social media too,
Speaker 3: kind of it was part of his personality was I
Speaker 3: don't know if that was really him, but or for
Speaker 3: you know, he came off as him, whereas I don't
Speaker 3: think does Brennan even do anything?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, there's another tweet. There was another tweet that came
Speaker 2: out early. I guess I'm Facebook friends with him. Mo,
Speaker 2: a very bright guy talks about why doesn't Arizona do
Speaker 2: the same or better that that Jed did with social
Speaker 2: media all that stuff, you know, dancing conective because he
Speaker 2: had he either was him or he has a social
Speaker 2: media team out there and they still do apparently to
Speaker 2: the same people. So if that's the case that they
Speaker 2: slacked this year compared to last year, why did that happen?
Speaker 2: And let me ask you, does that mean anything to
Speaker 2: you or to me or to anybody. Well, I mean
Speaker 2: we're talking about it, that's about it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was I wanted you to talk about it,
Speaker 2: not because I purposely with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if if it helps
Speaker 3: with ticket I think it just helps coach interest changing.
Speaker 3: People are looking at their phones all the time. They're
Speaker 3: not watching TV as they used to. They're looking at
Speaker 3: the smaller screens and whatever you can put on those
Speaker 3: small screens, whether it's a dancing cactus or you know,
Speaker 3: some kind of emoji. We're you know where you're forecasting. Hey,
Speaker 3: my recruiting glass is taking shape. You know, something would
Speaker 3: be nice to hear from the coach. And I don't know, again,
Speaker 3: I haven't really looked today, but it would be kind
Speaker 3: of nice to hear that other than just Arizona Wildcat
Speaker 3: football says.
Speaker 2: You know, it'd be nice to hear from him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good for his image.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: So always you see what happens. And it's a long year.
Speaker 2: We're only halfway through. Football is done and now we
Speaker 2: have the winner. Sports volleyball guests is playing right playoffs
Speaker 2: this weekend, and some other things going on. But you'd
Speaker 2: be basketball and men's and women's and then the winter
Speaker 2: sports will start up, right, I mean the spring, I
Speaker 2: guess spring with softball, and so we'll see what happens interesting.
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Speaker 13: I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Block Sports
Speaker 13: fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to why in the ball. Here I'll
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today with
Speaker 2: me Dave Silver Now on the phone. We have paton
Speaker 2: Nugent and coaching Mike Moutain. How you doing, Pat, Hi, Steve,
Speaker 2: how you doing?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me?
Speaker 2: Yes, No, just a few weeks ago you were wondering
Speaker 2: if you could make the playoffs and here you are
Speaker 2: in the finals.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 14: You know, a great opportunity for a kid. You know,
Speaker 14: I've been a great year thirteen to Oh. Not a
Speaker 14: lot of people have that opportunity. So the kids have
Speaker 14: been playing good ball, and here we are getting chance
Speaker 14: to go play it up at ASU and hopefully try
Speaker 14: to bring another one back to Tucson.
Speaker 3: Boy, Dave, Pat, you guys are in quite a streak,
Speaker 3: twenty eight wins in your last thirty games. What what
Speaker 3: has been the secret to getting this program rolling like
Speaker 3: this so quick, so earlier?
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, number one day, it's been a long time
Speaker 14: since it has heard from you, So it's nice to
Speaker 14: hear from you again and back in the flowing wealth.
Speaker 2: Days there exactly go cabs.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, we took a chance to come to
Speaker 14: Micael Mountain. You know, I followed Neimar Hasse, our principal
Speaker 14: over there. I leave in Sienaga, and you know, the
Speaker 14: whole thing with our kids had to buy into the program,
Speaker 14: and it was hard because we had nothing at micro
Speaker 14: Mount when Sienaga had it all and kids this group,
Speaker 14: you know this, We got a few of these kids.
Speaker 14: We got about five of our seniors that played all
Speaker 14: four years and really started the program. And you know,
Speaker 14: here we are in our third varsity season and you know,
Speaker 14: a lot of success. So you know, last year's senior
Speaker 14: group was our first senior class, and now here we
Speaker 14: are with our second.
Speaker 4: We're senior heavy.
Speaker 14: We have thirty one seniors this year and those are
Speaker 14: the kids that came to micro for a reason and
Speaker 14: they turned the program to success.
Speaker 2: So I had Jim Monico on I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: ten days ago or so, a great guy as you
Speaker 2: probably know, and he's just randomly talked about you, saying
Speaker 2: that how meticulous you are with your job, and how
Speaker 2: you know on point you must have got that from somewhere,
Speaker 2: and what older kind of secret sauce makes you who
Speaker 2: you are as a coach.
Speaker 14: Well, I've been fortunate to grow up in a football
Speaker 14: family and my uncle was a head football coach at
Speaker 14: Florida State Maryland, and my dad was a high school
Speaker 14: and coach for years and you know, a Hall of
Speaker 14: Fame back in New York. And then I had a
Speaker 14: great experience of work with Dick Tomy, and Dick Tomy
Speaker 14: was a guy that got me into this profession and
Speaker 14: I learned a lot of great things about what a team.
Speaker 4: Was and what you needed to do to build a program.
Speaker 14: And you know, I take a lot of that success
Speaker 14: from coach told me who taught me a lot, and
Speaker 14: you know, and that's just what I'm working with a
Speaker 14: lot of great coaches and a lot of believers that
Speaker 14: you don't know how to work hard and that's what
Speaker 14: we've done since my younger days. And John Casher, who
Speaker 14: was my first coach I worked with ever at Solongwell,
Speaker 14: has taught me a whole lot about the game of football.
Speaker 14: And it's been fortunate to have these great coaches teach
Speaker 14: work with work with me, and you know, lucky we've
Speaker 14: had success.
Speaker 3: Was there some type of a mentorship program going on
Speaker 3: with Tony because a number of you guys kind of
Speaker 3: got the end of the business. Yeah, I mean, it
Speaker 3: was interesting that that's I don't know, a stretch of
Speaker 3: maybe five ten years. A number of you you know,
Speaker 3: kind of came through the u of a you're on
Speaker 3: the sidelines.
Speaker 2: You were there. Well, let me say that's too. You
Speaker 2: must have been really young, because I had Lamont Hunley
Speaker 2: on the show yesterday and he said, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Nucca was one of our ball boys back in the day.
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, I was a manager back and told
Speaker 14: me Daves and that's you know, just the opportunity to
Speaker 14: work coach told me and see what went on. And
Speaker 14: you know that just a great human being he was,
Speaker 14: and you know he mentored me throughout. You know, I
Speaker 14: had a lot of down years of PIMA, and I
Speaker 14: know my wife would call Dick just to kind of
Speaker 14: motivate me a little bit. And then you know, I
Speaker 14: worked with Dick, put in a few camps and clinics
Speaker 14: together with him. Was just an honor and you know,
Speaker 14: just you know, we just wanted to follow his lead
Speaker 14: a little bit.
Speaker 4: And that's who they told me was what.
Speaker 2: Did you know? What didt you know? Because you already
Speaker 2: had the foresight to do all these things, meet the
Speaker 2: right people. You were a ball boy, Like I said
Speaker 2: that you wanted to do this.
Speaker 14: Well, I mean, I fortunately it really My sister knew
Speaker 14: Dick Barts and back in the day Dick Barts was
Speaker 14: over at UVA if you remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
Speaker 14: They got me into McHale, and I, you know, was
Speaker 14: very fortunate to grow up in the McHale era.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm working. I did a lot for Uba basketball,
Speaker 4: Ubay baseball.
Speaker 14: I was kind of the McHale manager of the first
Speaker 14: couple of years before I got really heavy into the
Speaker 14: football part and.
Speaker 4: Then just kind of grew up in the system.
Speaker 14: I didn't know what I wanted to do in college,
Speaker 14: and next thing, I know, I just realized that I
Speaker 14: loved football and coaching and got into education. And that's
Speaker 14: kind of where thirty four years later, here.
Speaker 2: I am, yeah and doing the wonders. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know last year you you were at the door, knocked
Speaker 2: on the door. I think CEO was one of the
Speaker 2: team to put you out right and they eventually win
Speaker 2: the title. And now and now here you are you
Speaker 2: did you see the I'm sorry if I already asked
Speaker 2: this question, did you see the potential in this team?
Speaker 2: Once you lost last year and said, okay, this is
Speaker 2: going to give them the hunger to get back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, without question. You know, we we felt good.
Speaker 14: You know, the first time we played CDO, we were
Speaker 14: right in the game, ended up losing by two points.
Speaker 14: So we had thought we had a chance last year
Speaker 14: to play. We had a great senior group athletes, and
Speaker 14: you know, but once we lost. Obviously CEO was senior
Speaker 14: heavy themselves last year, but we had a ton of
Speaker 14: kids playing semi final football that were juniors. You know,
Speaker 14: we had returned seven bars to see the kids on
Speaker 14: offense and then eight on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 14: So we had that experience and those kids had been
Speaker 14: in big games. And you know, I go all the
Speaker 14: way back to our first year and we were.
Speaker 4: A JV schedule. We were killing teams.
Speaker 14: So we went out searching for games and we ended
Speaker 14: up playing Mason, Mountain View and Southpoint with freshmen and sophomores.
Speaker 14: And I would tell them that day, I said, Hey,
Speaker 14: playing these games now are going to help you in
Speaker 14: the long run.
Speaker 4: And here we are never thinking those games would really matter.
Speaker 3: Sure, so now you go to a championship game, what
Speaker 3: you've been to them before? What can you tell your
Speaker 3: kids about you know, that environment what should they expect.
Speaker 14: Well, you know, we're very fortunate. Right now, we're sitting
Speaker 14: here about to walk in.
Speaker 4: The UK stadium.
Speaker 14: I made a few calls the other day and nice
Speaker 14: they're allowing us to practice stay in the stadiums from
Speaker 14: four to six thirty, which is trying to get the
Speaker 14: big game atmosphere out of their heads a little bit,
Speaker 14: because you know, anytime you want to say championship game,
Speaker 14: it's unbelievable.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 14: I was fortunate to be in Glendale Stadium for our
Speaker 14: game in two thousand and seven and it was quite
Speaker 14: a show. You know, our kids played their butts off,
Speaker 14: but we lost for three seconds left on a late
Speaker 14: field goal, and you know, you never forget that. And
Speaker 14: one of the things we've been teaching is, you know,
Speaker 14: you don't want to go to this game and walk
Speaker 14: out remembering the loss. You want to go out and
Speaker 14: win it. So that's what we're hoping to do. And
Speaker 14: we've been fortunate. I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 14: Richard Sanchez has been on our staff for the last
Speaker 14: three years, and Richard's got a couple of wings.
Speaker 4: And he's always talking about what it took to get there.
Speaker 14: And rich has been a tremendous mentor to these kids,
Speaker 14: and his work ethic has just really propelled our program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he adds a different element that you
Speaker 2: don't add.
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, Richard's a little different.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 3: That was quite a stretch when because they were winning
Speaker 3: their championships early two thousands and you kind of followed
Speaker 3: it up right after that. So that was a pretty
Speaker 3: good run for the Tucson schools when you had Kadeem
Speaker 3: and you had Blake and that, I mean, that was
Speaker 3: quite a stretch.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean Cdo had some talent, no question about it.
Speaker 14: And obviously Dusty had a great run over there, and
Speaker 14: you know he's got those two titles and he retired
Speaker 14: and he was living a good life, you know, so
Speaker 14: you know, that was a great run.
Speaker 4: I mean, once you have the team carrying a.
Speaker 14: High school level, you you donna win a lot of
Speaker 14: football games. And you know, it was great being there,
Speaker 14: and I made the choice to go to Pima and
Speaker 14: Dusty wanted that following year. But you know, you don't
Speaker 14: regret doing those things, but it was, you know, something
Speaker 14: to remember.
Speaker 2: You what did you go in as what was your
Speaker 2: seating for this.
Speaker 14: For we were number four even though we were you know,
Speaker 14: ten to o because of our strength to schedule. This year,
Speaker 14: it was just a kind of a down year where
Speaker 14: last year, you know, we were competing for the Open
Speaker 14: division because you know, we had Sabino who won a
Speaker 14: state title. Cdo want a state title, and just kind
Speaker 14: of a random year this year where a lot of
Speaker 14: our teams we had that were high level last year
Speaker 14: had a down year. So I really heard our strength
Speaker 14: to schedule and so that's why we had to go
Speaker 14: to Uma Catholic last week long trip. But our kids
Speaker 14: played work great and our defense has been lights out
Speaker 14: all year. They've only given them three first half touchdowns
Speaker 14: and that's what's We're hanging our hat on our defense
Speaker 14: and then just winning games.
Speaker 2: So you play, who do you play again? And what
Speaker 2: see do they?
Speaker 14: We played the number two seed Arizona College Prep. OKAYO, Yeah,
Speaker 14: I don't think they're new, but this first time they've
Speaker 14: been in the state championship themselves.
Speaker 2: Right. In fact, I just saw a blooper from them.
Speaker 2: I guess channel Channel four some kind of thing today's show.
Speaker 2: I guess they were running through the little mascot thing
Speaker 2: and it didn't open.
Speaker 4: I think that happened last week. Yeah, yeah, I got
Speaker 4: some line lights. So I'm hoping that TWN gets stuck
Speaker 4: on him again this week and.
Speaker 2: They can't it out. No, no, no, you must be
Speaker 2: go ahead. What is your crowd support going to be
Speaker 2: like an a issue this week?
Speaker 14: We are we're at hard time. I was starting on Principale.
Speaker 14: We have thirty one teachers have called out for Friday.
Speaker 2: Of course, we're.
Speaker 14: Basically I think mister Hase he called to see if
Speaker 14: we could have a half day, but our superintendent said
Speaker 14: that wasn't going to be a good idea. So we're
Speaker 14: going to have a great We got four buses going
Speaker 14: up students and we're excited about that. But you know,
Speaker 14: that's a big thing for mikeah Mount. It's a brand
Speaker 14: new school and you know, we've had a lot of success.
Speaker 14: I actually two weeks ago, my daughter played on the
Speaker 14: volleyball teams. She was on the volleyball team for four
Speaker 14: years and they got a chance to play for a
Speaker 14: state title and that was need. Our soccer team played
Speaker 14: for a state title last year. So here we are
Speaker 14: the you know, three years in the varsity level and
Speaker 14: we're playing for a state title, and maybe we get
Speaker 14: the first ones from MIKEL Mountain High School.
Speaker 2: All the success that you've had winning in different places,
Speaker 2: and all the accolade stuff, and you worked for some
Speaker 2: great coaches. You mentioned your father, your uncle. Could you
Speaker 2: give me two. I'm sure you've got more great lines
Speaker 2: from anyone you want to talk about, because Dick told
Speaker 2: me Anthony and I Jimino talk about this all the time.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things that he said when I
Speaker 2: covered him, Anthony covered him a little longer. You know,
Speaker 2: there's no such thing as experts. You know, he had
Speaker 2: all these wisdom, but I'm sure you got them from
Speaker 2: your dad, maybe from your uncle, maybe from Minuco some
Speaker 2: other people. What do you have?
Speaker 14: Oh, it's you know, just so many that were talking.
Speaker 14: You know, we're not allowed to say what Monaco say
Speaker 14: in public.
Speaker 4: Got a whole different one there, you know.
Speaker 14: And I think the biggest thing our you know, our
Speaker 14: biggest modo that we talked to our coaches and our kids,
Speaker 14: and that's what carries us every week is don't look stupid.
Speaker 14: You know, I think coach told me, used to say
Speaker 14: it all the time. And you go out there, you
Speaker 14: don't want to look stupid, you know. And that's the
Speaker 14: preparation that we try to do in our program. And
Speaker 14: you know, and I tell my coaches all the time, hey, kids,
Speaker 14: mess up, we're gonna look stupid.
Speaker 4: And that's our goal.
Speaker 14: Don't look stupid, you know, And that's something we want
Speaker 14: to live by. And that's what we hope to do
Speaker 14: every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, simple but smart. What was he's saying, was it
Speaker 2: burn the boats?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: What was something about? Tell me had something? You had
Speaker 2: a bunch of them, a bunch of different.
Speaker 14: To them, you know, and you know, and that's hey,
Speaker 14: one of the things kind of our model this year.
Speaker 14: I laugh now because my coach is sitting here with
Speaker 14: me right now. We kind of thought about it too,
Speaker 14: is you know. That was one thing coach Tomey said,
Speaker 14: you're either teaching it or.
Speaker 4: You're allowing it to happen. Right, That was what coached
Speaker 4: we said all the time.
Speaker 14: You know, you're the teaching it the wrong way or
Speaker 14: you're allowing it to happen, and you better in produce
Speaker 14: one or the other.
Speaker 4: You know, I got to take care of it. So
Speaker 4: that's what we've been working on this year.
Speaker 2: When Neimer called you and started a new project here
Speaker 2: in new school. What do you think? What'd you think? Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I have a future. You know what, what were you thinking?
Speaker 14: Well, we had it rolling at Sienic, and it was
Speaker 14: really hard because the program was on the top of
Speaker 14: the level. We were five A and our staff, our kids,
Speaker 14: our weight room was everything was going. But Nima wanted
Speaker 14: to go on back and he wanted to build his
Speaker 14: own school and that was his dream to do that.
Speaker 14: It was hard, but you know, I think one of
Speaker 14: the things when you start working for Neimar Hasse is
Speaker 14: you realize the support you're going to get, the effort
Speaker 14: he's going to give you to build your program where
Speaker 14: you need to be.
Speaker 4: So it was really a no brainer. As much as
Speaker 4: a lot of us.
Speaker 14: Didn't want to leave Sienica, we all call it kind
Speaker 14: of followed, and you know, we're fortunate we've had the
Speaker 14: success we had because there's been a lot of hurdles.
Speaker 14: There was a lot of nights I was over there
Speaker 14: and beginning going what the heck am I doing here?
Speaker 14: I mean, a terrible decision, but you know, so far
Speaker 14: it's worked out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question, Okay, Ja, this could be I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're looking forward to it. It's going to
Speaker 3: be a nice celebration one way or the other for
Speaker 3: you know, a good good team, good season, and then
Speaker 3: a big game. I mean, I guess you have to
Speaker 3: just kind of embrace it and have the kids realize
Speaker 3: that this could be maybe the highlight of their whole,
Speaker 3: you know, football careers.
Speaker 14: But you know, I think we were at an AIA
Speaker 14: meeting the day and they really wanted us to stress
Speaker 14: the fact that this is a big deal and they're
Speaker 14: going to make a big deal out of it. And
Speaker 14: you run out of that tunnel, Asu, We're gonna have
Speaker 14: a tremendous support from the veiled community there, and you
Speaker 14: know it is It's something you know, I'd go back
Speaker 14: seventeen years when I was in it that these kids
Speaker 14: are going to remember this for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 14: And I'm very fortunate to have a great staff and
Speaker 14: the kids that have bought into it, and you know,
Speaker 14: my family can't wait to go. And because you never know,
Speaker 14: I mean, like I said, when you're seventeen years ago,
Speaker 14: you think you get.
Speaker 4: Back, but you may never do, so you better enjoy
Speaker 4: it why you can.
Speaker 2: Well, we had maybe last question Pat that we had
Speaker 2: Couch Middleton yesterday. With the win and Push Ridge, it
Speaker 2: looks like the Phoenix folks might have to start paying
Speaker 2: attention if they hadn't already about the Tucson football getting
Speaker 2: pretty strong sell point you guys, you know all these teams.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, I think two Sound football has always
Speaker 14: been around, especially at the you know, the four three A,
Speaker 14: four A, five A type levels.
Speaker 4: You know, we just don't win those big school ones.
Speaker 14: But you know, I mean, Ciego we were number one
Speaker 14: seed multiple years, being undefeated, but you know, we just
Speaker 14: couldn't get past the big dogs, you know, the Centennials
Speaker 14: and those type of schools. But you know, I think
Speaker 14: obviously it's the second year in a row. Last year
Speaker 14: we won the three A four A and obviously Push
Speaker 14: Fridge winning this year. Hopefully we can bring back the
Speaker 14: four A and it'd be two years consecutive we win
Speaker 14: the three and four. So be a great honor for
Speaker 14: Tucson and I you know, two Sound football is always
Speaker 14: going to have their powerhouses. We don't, We're not too
Speaker 14: deep in all of our programs, but you know, the
Speaker 14: four or five great schools of Tucson are going to
Speaker 14: compete every year.
Speaker 2: Ye, great, Pat, thanks, thanks again. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: We'll go in one another one.
Speaker 4: All right. I appreciate it, guys. Always great talking to you.
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks for Patt Nugent and Mike about and head
Speaker 2: football coach thirteen and zero. Yeah, I mean he was
Speaker 2: talking about the two thousand and seven game.
Speaker 3: I was there too, working for Channel nine, and that
Speaker 3: was that was a Kadeem carry game. I believe he
Speaker 3: returned to kickoff for a touchdown and he was so
Speaker 3: good for that team. And yeah, he was a very
Speaker 3: cool moment. It was in Glendale as the Cardinals stadium
Speaker 3: was pretty new. Might have been it might have been
Speaker 3: the first time I was in that stadium and they
Speaker 3: came so close.
Speaker 2: It was a big It was a big deal. Yeah. Yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 2: Dave Silver Henry with me wording the board. If you
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Speaker 2: five to zero for one six seventy four four zero.
Speaker 2: Like to hear from you here? What's going on out there?
Speaker 2: Will you please? With the recruiting? What did you find
Speaker 2: out about that recruiting? Dave So, I'm I'm just looking
Speaker 2: at websites. I don't know.
Speaker 3: There's a few four stars possible. There's a number of
Speaker 3: three stars for Arizona for Arizona yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I still think everybody kind of for you and I
Speaker 2: maybe Larry for you. Uh the Mendoza line or the
Speaker 2: where you kind of judge all this stuff, right, and
Speaker 2: I do it with told me because I covered him,
Speaker 2: and that was so long ago, and we've had so
Speaker 2: many I've seen so many coaches come through. Uh. The
Speaker 2: thing they have to do is coach them up, right,
Speaker 2: you know, you get you get maybe a couple of
Speaker 2: diamonds in the rough and you and you get three stars,
Speaker 2: you get two stars Scooby, and and you get guys
Speaker 2: who you can coach up or who are just maybe
Speaker 2: overlooked or just damn good because no one thought they
Speaker 2: were any good.
Speaker 3: Well, there were so many of those guys in the
Speaker 3: tony years. Yeah, I mean Teddy Bruski was the perfect example,
Speaker 3: who was what was even a star?
Speaker 2: Start coming on and give you two more John Fina
Speaker 2: under side, he had to move positions, right, and then
Speaker 2: you had Glenn Parker who didn't even play football much
Speaker 2: to the JC level.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: So you know you but you also Dave, and you
Speaker 2: know this. If you you've had interns at your TV place,
Speaker 2: you see that they have potential and some guys think
Speaker 2: they have potential, but you see the ones that really
Speaker 2: do for sure, because they put extra time in it.
Speaker 2: They care and you think this guy may not be polished,
Speaker 2: but that's why I'm here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: One good thing that that Dick Toby had too is
Speaker 3: his assistants were phenomenal. He had Ron McBride, who that's
Speaker 3: a first guy I came up with you who wound up,
Speaker 3: you know, having a nice long career at Utah's the
Speaker 3: head coach McDuff on defense. I mean, there were those
Speaker 3: guys that were his buds and he was able to
Speaker 3: get them to come in and and he would get
Speaker 3: the players to come in and they bought into the system.
Speaker 2: I mean Glenn and Feena.
Speaker 3: I know Glenn for sure, you know, had a great
Speaker 3: relationship with McBride and probably wouldn't have come here had
Speaker 3: McBride not been here. And he winds up, you know,
Speaker 3: wind up being you know, a long NFL career for
Speaker 3: both those guys.
Speaker 2: But usually that was the case.
Speaker 3: I mean, Teddy had other coaches as well on the
Speaker 3: defensive side, where you know McDuff and you know others
Speaker 3: well were great.
Speaker 2: I'll give you another guy because I didn't cover him.
Speaker 2: You did at least knew him back when he played
Speaker 2: is Chuck? Chuck was just a dude, wasn't he. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like Ballyhood that he was little. He was little.
Speaker 2: He was like, you know, five eleven, one seventy five.
Speaker 2: But now he's still bleeding from his head. Yeah, did
Speaker 2: you see that? That was a great I did. I
Speaker 2: saw it. Yeah, I saw it after after.
Speaker 3: I guess they showed it during the game, but I
Speaker 3: I saw it, like with Scott Van Pelt showed it
Speaker 3: I think on Bad Beats or something like ESPN.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the blood coming down. But that's the type
Speaker 2: of player, and obviously he's a one off kind of
Speaker 2: pretty much that you need to got to prove that
Speaker 2: you belong. No one saw me, no one looked at me.
Speaker 2: You cared too small, not fast. But watch what I
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean most of the guys have are kind
Speaker 3: of baallyhooed when they come in. They've got their videos
Speaker 3: and everybody's sort of seeing them on websites and things
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: If they're really really good.
Speaker 3: Back in those days, you didn't know, you didn't really
Speaker 3: necessarily know. Oh wow, we got you know, someone like
Speaker 3: Chuck Cecil who's going to become an all time great,
Speaker 3: or Glenn or John who we saw maybe locally and
Speaker 3: sort of knew they were good. There was a couple
Speaker 3: other players at Suarro that had a chance on Sunnyside
Speaker 3: as well, so we got to see them. But nowadays,
Speaker 3: you know, they're marketing themselves and they're no big surprises.
Speaker 2: Right right now, you just kind of cross your fingers
Speaker 2: and hope that they turned into the player that you
Speaker 2: think they can play. I mean, they wouldn't be recruited
Speaker 2: here if he don't think they could play. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: we'll see. We'll see what the next year of Bredon
Speaker 2: comes up. But like you said, you got these guys here,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some more movers and shakers leaving and
Speaker 2: coming from the transfer portal, good and bad.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 2: Like we said yesterday, I think we do, we do.
Speaker 2: I didn't do breaking news. Maybe did Speedy Luke is gone. Yep,
Speaker 2: we'll see, and there's been a couple of others.
Speaker 3: The transfer portal is always I mean, as we've been
Speaker 3: sitting here, I've been looking at some different different sites
Speaker 3: and you know, players are already making their decisions. They're
Speaker 3: they're the quarterback from USC yesterday decided he want to
Speaker 3: go somewhere else Michigan may or.
Speaker 2: The state had the state quarterback left? Really Yeah, Well
Speaker 2: that's the whole thing. I'm we talk about the people
Speaker 2: who left and land. I wonder what the numbers are
Speaker 2: the people who leave and don't land. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, They don't go something they want. And that's
Speaker 2: the education part. I'm asking you. Okay, so you leave
Speaker 2: the school you want to pay, and then nobody wants you.
Speaker 3: Not what I don't understand how that all works. I
Speaker 3: mean as a dad or whatever. And I've had kids
Speaker 3: go through college and you know, it's just it's true, trecky,
Speaker 3: just to get them through. How do you do it
Speaker 3: when you're transferred like three or four times within six years?
Speaker 2: Sure, I just don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, education maybe isn't isn't at the top of
Speaker 3: the list for these for some of these guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you land, it's paid for. If you don't land,
Speaker 2: then and you're on your own.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but chances are too if you know, if you're
Speaker 3: smart and you want to get through and take advantage
Speaker 3: of the system a little bit and wind up get
Speaker 3: your master's degree. You know how many U of A
Speaker 3: basketball players are you know past they've already finished their
Speaker 3: their degrees.
Speaker 2: Tray Townsend k Oh because yeah, the fifth years and
Speaker 2: and that's a rarity to nowadays. If you're here longer
Speaker 2: than three years and back in the day when Luke
Speaker 2: was was coaching, and maybe a little of Sean, if
Speaker 2: you're here more than two maybe three, you're not good enough, right,
Speaker 2: that's why you're here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you stick around, maybe take advantage of the
Speaker 3: system and get you know, get that degree, get your
Speaker 3: master's degree or something if you want to if you
Speaker 3: want to coach sometimes you know, you want to go
Speaker 3: become a high school coach, you probably have to.
Speaker 2: Have a master's right. So we'll see, we'll see what
Speaker 2: comes of this. Good luck to him. He's gonna have
Speaker 2: to change a little personality wise. He did kind of
Speaker 2: today he was he's kind of hamming it up a
Speaker 2: little where that was the beginning. I don't roll, but
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he's more official more. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe some of the pressure's off now that he knows
Speaker 3: he's he is coming back. He can he can just
Speaker 3: concentrate on really having a whole full year, because remember
Speaker 3: he came in last year gener middle of January, so
Speaker 3: he didn't have a chance on this first transfer portal situation,
Speaker 3: which we're in like like right now. So he had
Speaker 3: to put together his staff, he had to put together
Speaker 3: a recruiting class, so he was he was behind the ball.
Speaker 2: How we have one hundred percent here of the one
Speaker 2: hundred percent, what would you put that percent of the
Speaker 2: demise of the U of a program? Just the five percent?
Speaker 2: What do you mean? What are you saying what you
Speaker 2: just said, coming in late, putting together staff pressures. If
Speaker 2: you're going to make a stew, how much of that
Speaker 2: do you put in the stew? Yeah, I mean there
Speaker 2: was a lot.
Speaker 3: It was a lot going on that just wasn't good
Speaker 3: and the timing was not good. And that happens when
Speaker 3: they make these coaching changes kind of last minute, and
Speaker 3: that whole snowball of Jed leaving and you know Nick
Speaker 3: Saban leaving, so Arizona was kind of caught at the
Speaker 3: at the end of that and that's what you wind
Speaker 3: up having having.
Speaker 2: To deal with. Yeah, and that's a super second two
Speaker 2: just because Jed left, because you're you're assuming facts, not
Speaker 2: into evidence. I learned that in Perium Racon that Jed
Speaker 2: would have had a good year. Maybe Jed knew something
Speaker 2: was wrong. Maybe Jed knew the depth wasn't going to
Speaker 2: be there. Yeah, we assume. We can't assume that he
Speaker 2: was gonna have a good year, but maybe not. Although
Speaker 2: you know, when you have Coleman, you have some of
Speaker 2: those guys that would have stayed. Things would have been
Speaker 2: a little different. He took.
Speaker 3: He also took a couple of the top recruits maybe
Speaker 3: would have had a chance to play here because they
Speaker 3: played at Washington.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't assume, you know, I leave here and
Speaker 2: go somewhere and who knows what could happen, car crash, whatever.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, it's it's assumed. It
Speaker 2: doesn't mean much. Okay, And if anybody, what's the time?
Speaker 2: How much that we have.
Speaker 4: Got that?
Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah we got time? Okay, Okay? What else? Basketball
Speaker 2: starts on Saturday again? What did you say when we
Speaker 2: first started? Chance for them to get good again? I
Speaker 2: guess playing in Southern Utah? Or yeah? Yeah, what did
Speaker 2: I say? It's time for them to play a team
Speaker 2: that they should kill?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the Southern Sure, you guys. Have you guys
Speaker 3: have dissected that whole Bahamas thing.
Speaker 2: But Southern Utah is not going to be in the tournament. No,
Speaker 2: so they Arizona. Actually we're friends in baseball. Did you
Speaker 2: see my post? And I paid no attention to this,
Speaker 2: but I thought it kind of curious that here we
Speaker 2: are in early December. Well last year, early December. Guess
Speaker 2: what they were like a number one seed after beating
Speaker 2: Duke and how'd that go? You can never take these
Speaker 2: things seriously. Now they're not even in the tournament.
Speaker 3: For I love the Joe and Ardi stuff because because
Speaker 3: he can go all the way up to selection Sunday
Speaker 3: and then you never hear from him again after he's
Speaker 3: made his.
Speaker 2: Picks until he too soon bracket. Yeah. Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I say he does the too soon bracket right after
Speaker 2: the tournament. Yeah. And I'd like to go to that
Speaker 2: now and say, okay, you know what that meant? Not
Speaker 2: a damn thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I you know, we've talked about this
Speaker 3: every time I come up, but it's just about the.
Speaker 2: Big twelve and what we can expect to see. And
Speaker 2: you know, did you be tough? Did your analysis change
Speaker 2: a little?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I mean I haven't really watched that much, to be
Speaker 3: honest with you, just yet. I mean, I've seen Kansas.
Speaker 3: That Kansas Due game was pretty impressive. I've seen a
Speaker 3: couple of home games at Kansas. Again, that's going to
Speaker 3: be pretty intimidating. I know you went right.
Speaker 2: I've done three times those years back.
Speaker 3: The Big Twelve. Those road games are going to be
Speaker 3: a challenge. It's not going to be like going into
Speaker 3: Oregon State and Stanford and No.
Speaker 2: But you know, the toughest places Arizona went to when
Speaker 2: I covered the team on a daily basis, where the
Speaker 2: Oregon States were, the quiet Stansords, the Washington States because Arizona, yeah,
Speaker 2: all we have to do is show up, play and
Speaker 2: get out. No, No, those were those were the more
Speaker 2: difficult ones because and I've said this, I've said this
Speaker 2: a lot, the guys at Arizona and lut Had were
Speaker 2: the Richard Jefferson's, the guys who thought highly of themselves
Speaker 2: and all you had to do is show up and play,
Speaker 2: And no, it doesn't work that way. Yeah, it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be cool just to see how the environment
Speaker 3: is and how the players react to it, because most
Speaker 3: of them have never been in those situations, at least
Speaker 3: through the PAC twelve games. Right well, they had pretty
Speaker 3: tough road games and tournament games, right.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, and we'll see how that is because Wisconsin
Speaker 2: was like that, right yeah, and see what happened there.
Speaker 2: The Duke was here, so it didn't really matter. Bahamas
Speaker 2: wasn't wasn't. It was an empty pretty much gym except
Speaker 2: for a few pants. So so we'll see.
Speaker 3: Somebody was saying too that this team, it's kind of
Speaker 3: an interesting expression, doesn't have a glue guy. It's kind
Speaker 3: of like a Pelly Larson or they referred to like
Speaker 3: Dale and Terry or I saw that somebody who's gonna just,
Speaker 3: you know, get in people's faces.
Speaker 2: And say, you know, come on, well, I'll give you
Speaker 2: one further. Who's their leader? I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: think they have one. I nominated Jayden Bradley because he
Speaker 2: has the ball in his hand a lot. He's tougher,
Speaker 2: he doesn't give a crap in terms of what people think.
Speaker 2: He just puts his head down and gets to a
Speaker 2: taxi basket. They got to find somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he seems pretty much a leader, though he does.
Speaker 3: You can tell when they gather at a free throw
Speaker 3: line or something like that, or a timeout.
Speaker 2: He seems to be the most vocal. So so let
Speaker 2: me ask you what does that mean?
Speaker 4: He's the leader?
Speaker 2: Anybody's the leader? Who knows what does that mean?
Speaker 4: I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Guess it's just a matter of being able to lead
Speaker 3: the troops. And if they respond to him, they may
Speaker 3: look at him like you're crazy.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. So so in
Speaker 2: my time, I would think, and your time to Steve
Speaker 2: Kerr leader And he does it subtly, but he did it.
Speaker 2: It's like Henry Harvey told me, they didn't want to
Speaker 2: disappoint us deep so they played their ass off. I
Speaker 2: guess he had something, you know, you don't want to
Speaker 2: disappot him or loot. Miles was that same way. Oh,
Speaker 2: definitely my Miles that way. There's been a few uh
Speaker 2: Luke to a certain degree, uh Luke Walton in a
Speaker 2: in a weird way. Uh And he had a talented team,
Speaker 2: right with those guys. So we'll see and probably i'll
Speaker 2: give you another one. The most recent guy, if I'm correct,
Speaker 2: TJ McConn.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean you know Steve was was a.
Speaker 2: Kid when he was here too.
Speaker 3: I mean, these kids are all, you know, eighteen to
Speaker 3: twenty two years old, but he had that little something extra,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, guys would look at him even if it wasn't basketball.
Speaker 2: It was more of a respect type of thing. And
Speaker 2: you know those guys, I'm sure when you worked at
Speaker 2: the station, you had somebody that you were very impressed with.
Speaker 2: You You're in the business, right, so you saw somebody God,
Speaker 2: he has he has it. Yeah, you know you yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean I think.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit different, but I you know, when
Speaker 3: you're doing what we did, a lot of it was
Speaker 3: just you did it a long time, and he kind
Speaker 3: of garnered respect because you'd been there for a long time.
Speaker 2: Trumple the young kids would come into.
Speaker 3: The into the business and go, wow, how does he
Speaker 3: manage to stick around for twenty five years? And basketball
Speaker 3: it's a little quicker and they're younger, but they usually
Speaker 3: have to have somebody to look up to, some type
Speaker 3: of a role model.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's just somebody who's been there.
Speaker 3: You're you come in as a freshman and you're looking
Speaker 3: up to the juniors and the seniors who are on it.
Speaker 2: If they have any juniors and seniors. Well, and you
Speaker 2: have to be good. I think that another guy that
Speaker 2: they respected the hell off and he'd probably didn't say
Speaker 2: a whole lot, was Mike Bibby. Yeah, because when you're
Speaker 2: good and he has the ball and you want the ball,
Speaker 2: you're kind of nice to Mike Bibby and you respect
Speaker 2: the hell out of it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And back then, who would have thought ninety seven would
Speaker 2: have been that team? Who thought I'd guarantee you nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then ninty ate that team was only better, and
Speaker 2: look what happened. Those guys were all there. Yeah, Mike
Speaker 2: Bibby didn't say much to us though he didn't say. No,
Speaker 2: I'm friends with him now I'd give him grief on
Speaker 2: the text and we talk, but yeah, now he talks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was good to see him at the Duke game.
Speaker 2: That was a nice collection of players they brought to
Speaker 2: the Duke game. Yeah, including him, Him and Gilbert. Well,
Speaker 2: they're trying to get Gilbert's kid to come here, are
Speaker 2: they some some Yeah, I forget his first day, but
Speaker 2: someone text me this morning. If I don't get Gilbert's kid,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna forget. I'm gonna I'm gonna forget about Tommy.
Speaker 2: I said, haven't you already These guys are all complaining
Speaker 2: about Tommy because they didn't win a few games this year.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the development people would like to get
Speaker 3: Gilbert to come because Richard made a nice little gift
Speaker 3: ten years.
Speaker 2: Ago or so. Gilbert's not spending any but he's not
Speaker 2: gonna spend his mon No, no, he's not gonna spend it.
Speaker 3: Richard Gilbert about that, he oh yeah, joke during that
Speaker 3: whole stretch where I was like, what's Gilbert gonna do?
Speaker 2: Is his big gift right build? And he did this
Speaker 2: is all joking. He did it because he didn't want
Speaker 2: He wanted to be before Gilbert gave yeah. Yeah, So okay,
Speaker 2: we still have a couple of minutes, right, well yeah,
Speaker 2: okay again, if you want to call on the next
Speaker 2: hour not now five to zero four one, six, seventy
Speaker 2: four forty You guys know the drill. We're gonna have
Speaker 2: breaking news from Henry at the top of the hour,
Speaker 2: and then in the second hour we're gonna have Matt
Speaker 2: Moneno from Go Aisy Cats, uh talking about the recruits
Speaker 2: that we were talking about earlier. Just maybe break down
Speaker 2: who they got and his philosophy and and maybe you
Speaker 2: see what fefeed us up to, because you know, people
Speaker 2: are denying that he's gonna leave, or at least you know,
Speaker 2: saying it's not repeating the news from yesterday. So who
Speaker 2: who said something? I've been on it. People were repeating
Speaker 2: what they were saying and it wasn't true. But then
Speaker 2: they hadn't talked to his folks, his folks yet. But
Speaker 2: his dad did kind of leave the door open. He's
Speaker 2: gonna leave it up to God and to you know,
Speaker 2: saying he's not leaving, but dot dot dot. It's like
Speaker 2: when we go and we interview people, Well, he didn't deny.
Speaker 2: You know, you pick apart every word. He didn't deny that.
Speaker 2: He didn't deny. You know, we're a salad, don't we
Speaker 2: call it that?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, pretty much. Okay, ready to go, let's go,