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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Raybs Constance video.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this time last night, a tragedy had struck Washington, DC,

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<v Speaker 2>and I watched the news today and watched television today,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is the story. It is the story of

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<v Speaker 2>the day. There was a news conference and a statement

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<v Speaker 2>from President Trump this morning which has generated a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of controversy. The President linked what happened last night,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't link it directly, but talked about a DEI, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think was an honestly unnecessary and an unenforced political error.

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<v Speaker 2>So I would like to focus on the tragedy of

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<v Speaker 2>last night, the loss of life sixty four people on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane from Wichita to Reagan National Airport, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as the three military personnel. Now, I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. I suspect no one in the audience knows

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. These are the sorts of accidents that are

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<v Speaker 2>investigated by the National Transportation Safety Board, and that they

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<v Speaker 2>may have an interim report that comes out a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months from now, or it may be a year

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<v Speaker 2>before the final report comes out. But there was enough

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<v Speaker 2>reporter today that has troubled me, and it troubles me

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<v Speaker 2>as just as a human being, but it also troubles

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<v Speaker 2>me as someone who spends a little bit of time,

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of time in airports and on airplanes

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<v Speaker 2>during the course of the year. Two things that trouble

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<v Speaker 2>me the most are as. I understand that. And I

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<v Speaker 2>watched a lot of the reporting today from the cable

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<v Speaker 2>network's news channels as well as the nightly newscast ABC

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<v Speaker 2>Evening News. I watched that's my newscast of choice at

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<v Speaker 2>six point thirty, and I understand it, and some of

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<v Speaker 2>you probably know more about this than I do, so

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<v Speaker 2>I want to open this up as kind of a discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>We call this show North America's back Porch. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>use that nomenclature as often as I should, but I

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<v Speaker 2>view this program as a program similar to the all

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<v Speaker 2>houses that maybe some of you grew up in many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago when life was a little simpler, and they

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<v Speaker 2>would be a front porch or a back porch where

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<v Speaker 2>people would gather on a good you know, spring, late spring,

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<v Speaker 2>early summer, midsummer night, and people would come up on

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<v Speaker 2>the porch and talk. And that's the metaphor that I

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<v Speaker 2>use for our program. So I guess the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>that troubles me that I heard about was that the

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<v Speaker 2>helicopter was flying in an altitude of three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty feet, because that is where they crash occurred. So

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty feet in the air, that's longer

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<v Speaker 2>than a football or higher than a football field. If

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<v Speaker 2>you would turn a football field perpendicularly, I guess if

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<v Speaker 2>you took the end zones, that you'll let stadium the

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred yards of the field, and then there's ten

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<v Speaker 2>yards on each end, so we're talking about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty yards. That's about three hundred and sixty feet. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where the crash occurred. Didn't take long for

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<v Speaker 2>those for the plane and the helicopter to fall out

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<v Speaker 2>of the sky into the Potomac River. They're still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find bodies tonight, and hopefully they will find everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and that part of the story will bring some closure,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess to some extent. I don't know that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>ever have these families will ever have closure. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to the families in a moment. The other story that

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<v Speaker 2>has broken tonight, according to the New York Times, staffing

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<v Speaker 2>was not normal at the Reagan Airport tower. According to

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<v Speaker 2>an FAA report. Now this gets interesting. This is an

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<v Speaker 2>article that was written by two women, Sidney Ember and

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<v Speaker 2>Emily Steele, who was updated this afternoon about three point

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<v Speaker 2>forty two. Staffing at the air traffic control tower at

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Reagan National Airport was not normal quote not normal

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<v Speaker 2>for the time of day in volume of traffic. According

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<v Speaker 2>to an internal preliminary Federal Aviation Administration safety report about

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<v Speaker 2>the collision that was reviewed by The New York Times,

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<v Speaker 2>the controller who was handling helicopters in the airport's vicinity

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday night was also instructing planes that were landing

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<v Speaker 2>and departing from its runways. Those jobs are typically typically

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<v Speaker 2>assigned to two controllers rather than one. The increase this

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<v Speaker 2>increases the workload for the air traffic controller and can

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<v Speaker 2>complicate the job. One reason is that controllers can use

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<v Speaker 2>different radio frequent to communicate with pilots flying planes and

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<v Speaker 2>pilots flying helicopters. While the controller is communicating with pilots

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<v Speaker 2>of the helicopter and the jet, the two sets of

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<v Speaker 2>pilots may not be able to hear each other. Like

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<v Speaker 2>most of the country's air traffic control facilities, the tower

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<v Speaker 2>at Reagan Import has been understaffed for years. The tower

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<v Speaker 2>there was nearly a third below target staff levels, with

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen fully certified controllers as of September twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the most recent Air Traffic Controller Workforce Plan

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<v Speaker 2>and ANERWER report to Congress that contains target and actual

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<v Speaker 2>staffing levels. The targets set by the FAA and the

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<v Speaker 2>Controllers Union call for thirty. So both the FAA, which

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<v Speaker 2>represents the government, and the Controllers Union call for thirty

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<v Speaker 2>fully certified controllers, but in September twenty twenty three, there

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<v Speaker 2>were only nineteen fully certified controllers. The shortage, caused by

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<v Speaker 2>years of employee turnover and tight budgets, among other factors,

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<v Speaker 2>has forced many controllers to work up to six days

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<v Speaker 2>a week and ten hours a day. The FAA did

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<v Speaker 2>not immediately respond to a quest to a request for comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have heard most of us, I think have

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<v Speaker 2>heard some of the traffic, the audio traffic, and this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play this for you because I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty critical. It always seems to me, now not

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<v Speaker 2>air traffic controllers have to speak and make decisions very quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are life and death decisions. Even surgeons in

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<v Speaker 2>operating rooms or doctors in emergency rooms have more time

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<v Speaker 2>to make some of these decisions. Rob, if you can

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<v Speaker 2>locate cut sixty three, this is air traffic control audio

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<v Speaker 2>from the plane helicopter crash near DC. You'll hear a

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<v Speaker 2>comment at the end that says, I saw a fireball,

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<v Speaker 2>then it was just gone. I think that's another pilot.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a plane above and behind the American Airlines

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<v Speaker 2>flight from which you tak So Rob, if you've located

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three, let's play it and listen to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Fire Command. The accident happened in the river.

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<v Speaker 4>Both the helicopter and the plane crashed in the river

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<v Speaker 4>is east of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Approach end of runway three three.

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<v Speaker 2>Real close. Yes, the airfield is closed. The airfield is closed.

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<v Speaker 6>World, Yes, all runways are closed.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody's landing, no one's moving at all.

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<v Speaker 6>It was probably out in the middle of the river.

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<v Speaker 5>I just saw a fireball and then it was just gone.

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<v Speaker 1>So any since they hits a river, but it was a.

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<v Speaker 5>CRJ and a helicopter that hit.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say maybe a half mile off the approach

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously that's air traffic control audio, and that is after

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<v Speaker 2>the accident has occurred. Now, the American Airlines CEO, guy

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<v Speaker 2>named Robert Isisim, released a video, just a video expressing sorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>which is perfectly understandable and it is not in any way,

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<v Speaker 2>shape or form and acknowledgment that his crew messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, we don't know who messed up, but

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<v Speaker 2>we know that someone messed up because these two planes,

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<v Speaker 2>these two aircraft, should not have been anywhere near one

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<v Speaker 2>another at this time. This is cut number sixty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob this is the American Airlines CEO.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello everyone, I'm Robert Eisen, the CEO of American Airlines.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to brief you on a serious accident that

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<v Speaker 4>occurred involving an American Eagle aircraft. The aircraft was operated

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<v Speaker 4>by PSA Airlines, which is a wholly owned subsidiary of

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<v Speaker 4>American Airlines. First, and most importantly, I'd like to express

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<v Speaker 4>our deep sorrow about these events. This is a difficult

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<v Speaker 4>day for all of us at American Airlines, and our

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<v Speaker 4>efforts now are focused entirely on the needs of our passengers,

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<v Speaker 4>crew members, partners, first responders, along with their families and

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the families and loved ones are the one who

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<v Speaker 2>need most of the support. Now we've learned throughout the

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<v Speaker 2>day that there were six people on that flight. Two

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<v Speaker 2>teenage US national figure skaters, a young man from Barrington,

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<v Speaker 2>Rhode Island, Spencer Lane, sixteen years old, a young girl

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen year old, Gina Hahn. I watched she's from Mansfield.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched video of both of them tonight. They were

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<v Speaker 2>out at a development camp for American figure skaters in

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<v Speaker 2>the Wichita area. They obviously had been identified by their

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<v Speaker 2>coaches as people with incredible potential and probably at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in our lives we will watch them completely competing

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<v Speaker 2>in the Winter Olympics for our country. Their moms, Christine

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<v Speaker 2>Lane and Jin Hahn, they were with their teenagers and

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<v Speaker 2>they died in the crash along with them, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as their coaches. Eugenia Shishkoba and Vadim Knockmov, two Russian

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<v Speaker 2>nationals who relocated here at some point several years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>were living in Norwood. They were nineteen ninety four national champion,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to remember back if ninety four was

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<v Speaker 2>an Olympic year, but either way, they which they were

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<v Speaker 2>world class figure skaters who now were world class coaches

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<v Speaker 2>thirty years later, and they were on the plane as well,

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<v Speaker 2>So six people that we know of. There apparently were

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<v Speaker 2>some other members from the figure skating community who lived

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<v Speaker 2>in other parts of the country who had taken the

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<v Speaker 2>flight from Wichita to Washington because there are no direct

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<v Speaker 2>flights from Wichita to Boston. So I just like tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>as we often do sparticularly in times of tragedy, is

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<v Speaker 2>open up the phone lines and give you an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to say whatever you like about this. There's no controversy here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just a national tragedy, similar to the aircrash

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<v Speaker 2>that wiped out the US figure skating team in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one when they're playing crashed in Belgium. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's It was difficult last night to continue to do

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<v Speaker 2>our show last night realizing that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>probably had had their attention rightfully, so turned to the

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<v Speaker 2>disaster in Washington. So tonight, let's focus on that and

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<v Speaker 2>say what you'd like. If you know any of these folks,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're from the figure skating community, you know the

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Skating Club used to be on Soldiers Field Road,

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<v Speaker 2>very close to WBCTV, and recently, well in the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years, they built a magnificent building in Norwood. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe I've not been out there, but I believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>to be some national competition here in Boston late in March.

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<v Speaker 2>This is some monumental tragedy. So I just have one

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<v Speaker 2>other thing to say, two things to say, six one, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty three thirty later on tonight, I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this for a couple of hours because I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important to express your feelings, and for not

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<v Speaker 2>only for you to express your feelings, but for people

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<v Speaker 2>to realize that none of us are alone, and this

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<v Speaker 2>all of us. This is what all of us are

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about tonight, and so to do anything else, even

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<v Speaker 2>something as important as confirmation hearings, Cabinet confirmation hearings, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work. We will spend an hour at eleven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>from eleven o'clock to twelve and talking about Internet and

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<v Speaker 2>social network and social network addiction. We have a guest

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<v Speaker 2>who we had on a couple of weeks ago and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was really good. We're going to bring

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<v Speaker 2>him back tonight and give you a chance to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to him and ask you a question. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>the agenda for the evening, pretty straightforward. Feel free to

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<v Speaker 2>join the conversation. The only line that remains open right

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<v Speaker 2>now is six one, seven, nine, three, one ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan ray We'll be back right after

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<v Speaker 2>this on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Lie from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to the phones right away. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>go to John and Denim. John, appreciate you getting us

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<v Speaker 2>going tonight. You were first tonight on Nightside. Your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on this horrific event last night.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, then after what you just said about the staff,

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<v Speaker 7>and I said, you know, and I meant to I

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<v Speaker 7>want to call it, you know, you know other times

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<v Speaker 7>about this, but I'm more angry than anything right now.

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<v Speaker 7>But how how is this? How will we but all

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<v Speaker 7>the millions billions we spend on crap? If I could

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<v Speaker 7>say the word, how do we not have stuff? I'm

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<v Speaker 7>looking at the disasters like New Orleans with that truck

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<v Speaker 7>that went down street, the fires in California that could

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<v Speaker 7>the damage could be minimized, and the Secret Service a

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<v Speaker 7>sleep at the wad of for twenty year old kid

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<v Speaker 7>and it just goes on and on. What happened? What

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<v Speaker 7>happened is the accountability. Like I said, I'm just angry

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<v Speaker 7>because this did not have to happen. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 7>you if.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't agree with I couldn't agree with you more.

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<v Speaker 2>The word is accountability. You just wonder how look I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at it every time I go to the airport. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about you, but it's like I'm at a

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<v Speaker 2>bus station. But do you do you fly often or no?

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<v Speaker 7>Not as much as they used to. But I know

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<v Speaker 7>what you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a bus station.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I look at I think, how do they keep

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<v Speaker 2>how do they keep the plane safe up there? This

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<v Speaker 2>will stay with me for a long time. I know

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<v Speaker 2>that there hasn't been a big commercial disaster like this,

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<v Speaker 2>they said, since the crash in Buffalo in two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and nine. But how can of all the places in

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<v Speaker 2>the world that you would want to have overstaffing, it

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm sorry, Dan, but it's like if if ever

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<v Speaker 7>you need a redundancy or check some balances, listen that

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<v Speaker 7>I go up in Brighton I go up skating at

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<v Speaker 7>in Dead of Mouse. I'm not too far from a

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<v Speaker 7>new rank, beautiful rank. And it's like a thirteen year old,

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<v Speaker 7>sixteen year old kid for what because somebody didn't staff,

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<v Speaker 7>we couldn't get we couldn't get enough money to staff

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<v Speaker 7>enough controllers. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either. It's it seems to me that that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a new sheriff in town. Donald J. Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and if he would focus on the problem that you

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<v Speaker 2>just identified. He spent some time today looking pretty presidential,

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<v Speaker 2>but then he kind of drifted off and wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about diversity Inclusion DEI. I am as frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>with some of the DEI programs that exist as anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think he was smart to bring that

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<v Speaker 2>up today because there's no suggestion that this had anything

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<v Speaker 2>to do with people who were hired and were not confident.

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<v Speaker 2>It has everything to do with they weren't enough people

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, at this point, again, base of what you said,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't even I don't think I'm getting to blame. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 7>you need a full investigation. But it doesn't sound like

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<v Speaker 7>it's even the controler's fault. It's like, just you have

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<v Speaker 7>I'm wondering, like, did both the helicopter pilot and the

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<v Speaker 7>From what I understand, he was handling both.

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<v Speaker 2>If I heard right, that's what That's what the New

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<v Speaker 7>That's the case. It's like, uh, and Daniel, what you say?

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<v Speaker 7>They working like ten hours a day and they yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>do you want a doctor at the end of his

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<v Speaker 7>twenty hour ship to operate on you? It's like and

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<v Speaker 7>that Obviously we've heard about how many close causes have

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<v Speaker 7>been around the country, so it's obvious. I hope, I

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<v Speaker 7>hope Trump and you know, Trump does it. I think obviously,

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<v Speaker 7>like you said, new sheriff in town. But again, I

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<v Speaker 7>hope this investigation comes out and it's not it's unbiased,

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<v Speaker 7>totally objective. Put the boy where it was. If there

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't enough staffing, why I wasn't there staffing? Don't tell

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<v Speaker 7>me there's not enough money. You can find money. You

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<v Speaker 7>find billions, illegals, you can find minor staff and control.

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<v Speaker 2>Cow absolutely and and by the way, this is an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity for Donald Trump. I know today that there was

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of the reporters he talked about signing an

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<v Speaker 2>executive order last week, and one of the reporters asked

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<v Speaker 2>him this dumb question, like, well, you signed the executive order,

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<v Speaker 2>how did this happen? I mean, it does take some

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<v Speaker 2>time for policy to be to be put in place.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's hope that that he does the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone. And one more thing, yeah, true, yeah, true.

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<v Speaker 7>Because after what you just said, you just reminded me

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<v Speaker 7>of was it like a few days ago, I thought

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<v Speaker 7>I heard Elizabeth Warren criticizing Trump for inflation and and

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<v Speaker 7>and I don't know if you saw that, and it

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<v Speaker 7>it's like you didn't criticize buy for four years. This

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<v Speaker 7>guy just gets an office and you already criticized it

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<v Speaker 7>because I think the egg price and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let me let me let me tell you. She's

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<v Speaker 2>on the she was on the war path yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought she made a fool of herself yesterday. The Wall

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<v Speaker 2>Street Journal actually gave her a good review, but I

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<v Speaker 2>thought she was totally both she she and Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>were totally out of control yesterday. But that's a story

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<v Speaker 2>for yesterday. Let's let's focus on the folks whose lives

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<v Speaker 2>have been taken from us. You know, mothers and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and coaches and skaters who had everything to live for.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was tough watching the news tonight at six

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock and seeing Nancy Carragan out there as well as

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Tentley. All right, you know two great New Englanders

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<v Speaker 2>who we know, all Bright as a physician but also

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<v Speaker 2>as an Olympic skater and Nancy Kerrigan. So let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>get it right, folks. And this is an opportunity. Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump doesn't have to point fingers at anyone. Do yourself

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite President Trump, and make the changes that need

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that. Thank you, John, appreciate your call very much.

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<v Speaker 11>And you're gonna bulldoze through the community. You're gonna bulldoze

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZZY, Boston's news.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio, Back to the Folds. You're go going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Fred and Dad and Fred next on Nightside. Your

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on this very sad night, Yes.

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<v Speaker 12>Dan is too little things make it quick. One is

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<v Speaker 12>I guess two nights ago at that airport in Washington

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<v Speaker 12>and American Airlines had a problem. There was one of

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<v Speaker 12>military helicopter in his way and he had to get

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<v Speaker 12>a wave off, and he had to go around and

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<v Speaker 12>come in a second time because he didn't have a

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<v Speaker 12>clear sight onto the runway. And then I heard on

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<v Speaker 12>television tonight in Boston they've had three situations in Boston

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<v Speaker 12>in the last six months in which pilots had to

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<v Speaker 12>take evasive action because of a second airplane. So I'm

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<v Speaker 12>beginning to get a little bit scared about this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 12>Have a good night, Bye bye two Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Fred, appreciate your call, and I certainly understand exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what Fred has to say every time I fly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm nervous, and and this this will stick in my

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<v Speaker 2>mind for for a while. That that's for sure, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>stick in all of our minds. It's amazing that these

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<v Speaker 2>these planes get up in the air. Never mind that

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<v Speaker 2>they stay up in the air. Let me keep rolling here,

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<v Speaker 2>going to go to Rick and Bill Ricker next nightside

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<v Speaker 2>right ahead, Rick.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Dan, how are you okay? Yeah, very very very sad,

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<v Speaker 3>very sad day. First off, yeah, Trump saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>foolish things like the EI. I mean, if there was proof, fine,

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<v Speaker 3>he can say at all he wants, but he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>have to go there. He undermines his intelligence by by

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<v Speaker 3>even saying it. It's it's foolish and it's not the

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<v Speaker 3>appropriate time. And didn't you say a few minutes ago

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<v Speaker 3>on the year that uh for three years or two years?

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan National, Reagan International. It's Reagan. It's an international airport, right, It's.

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<v Speaker 2>Called Reagan the international airport. But yeah, Reagan National, Ye,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Reagan National Airport has been understaff for three years now

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<v Speaker 3>or two years.

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<v Speaker 2>Well September twenty twenty three, so a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>A lest how can that be legal? How can that

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<v Speaker 3>be legal? I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that both the FAA and the union. So the

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<v Speaker 2>government and the union agree that they need thirty full

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<v Speaker 2>time you know, FAA air traffic controllers, FA air traffic controllers.

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<v Speaker 2>And as of September twenty twenty three, which is well

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<v Speaker 2>a year and a half ago, it was down to nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't cover all the shifts. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>those airlines. Those airlines start flying at five o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and they don't shut down until midnight. Can

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<v Speaker 2>how can you cover seven days? And you can't have

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<v Speaker 2>people sitting there for eight hours without a bathroom break

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<v Speaker 2>or a food break. You have to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>more than one person in the control tower. It's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>It's absolutely crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's not my problem, Like your problem is

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to be open for business. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>get people and train them and offer them good enough

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<v Speaker 3>money and keep them on the job. And this is

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<v Speaker 3>just I just I sent my brother off yesterday to

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<v Speaker 3>take a flight to Florida for a cruise, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just thought from you know, sent them to Logan Express

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<v Speaker 3>in Woburn, and I was like, whoa. It just caught

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<v Speaker 3>me off card, but it's it's so tragic. Remind it

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<v Speaker 3>takes me back to the lockery Scotland. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was pan Am. I know that was far more people

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<v Speaker 3>on it. There was like two hundred and seventy people.

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<v Speaker 2>That also was That also was a bomb that detonated.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that was. That was a whole different thing,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but it just made me think of it

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<v Speaker 3>for some sug I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean again, these people are sitting These folks are sitting there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they're talking, they're excited, They're about to land

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<v Speaker 2>there on half way home, and within a nanosecond they're dead.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, the only good thing and there

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<v Speaker 2>was no good thing in reality. But they probably didn't suffer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's I hopefully not because they hit they hit

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<v Speaker 3>the cold water. But I you know, I just think

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<v Speaker 3>to myself in closing, uh tonight, with with the with

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<v Speaker 3>we have AI robots that can talk and make movements

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<v Speaker 3>like human, we have the Myers over, we have all

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<v Speaker 3>this incredible technology, and the only thing I can think

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<v Speaker 3>of is sometimes people forget to pay attention. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>so sorry for the person who who was who reported it,

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<v Speaker 3>who was kind of on behind the controls of the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the what is it called, I'm losing my

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<v Speaker 3>train of thought, you know, the the the attendant in

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<v Speaker 3>the in the station. I feel sorry for that person

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<v Speaker 3>for not knowing. But I just think, with all the technology,

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<v Speaker 3>how can this happened? You've you've you think that also?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sure you think about technology. The question is

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<v Speaker 2>are they trying to do too much or with too

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<v Speaker 2>little resources? Are there too many planes up there? Too

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<v Speaker 2>many people? Are are we overextending everybo Look? I want

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<v Speaker 2>the economy to do well. I want people to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to fly, but maybe they have to just cut

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<v Speaker 2>back and say, hey, look these you know, some of

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<v Speaker 2>these hubs, I mean Atlanta, Chicago, Washington, Dallas. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they're landing planes every uh, you know, it seems like

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<v Speaker 2>every two minutes. I just don't know that they can

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<v Speaker 2>that they can handle it. And all you need is

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<v Speaker 2>one and maybe this will be turned out that the

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<v Speaker 2>that the helicopter pilot his alterrimeter wasn't working or he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see they'll have a reason here. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>this was intentional. This was a mistake. No, no, of course, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have to make sure that that these mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>You just can't say, Gee, I wish we had fewer mistakes,

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<v Speaker 2>because any mistake is unacceptable at this level. You're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a plane that has sixty seven souls on it

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<v Speaker 2>and they're gone as simple as that. Look. Appreciate you

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<v Speaker 2>call Wrick. We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks buddy, absolutely, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>but only right now six one, seven, two, five, four,

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<v Speaker 2>ten thirty. We're going to go next to Ruth in Westwood. Ruth,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you taking the time to call you next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>Go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I I I remember the nineteenth because you want

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<v Speaker 5>playing crash and because I used to figure skate and

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<v Speaker 5>all those people who died were my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember it very well as well. And that

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<v Speaker 2>set back. Yeah, you know our Olympic skating programs. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean all of those young people have gone and gone

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<v Speaker 2>in an instant.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah right, just I already saying something that you may

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<v Speaker 5>think of It was horrible, but I no mean competitors

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<v Speaker 5>the way I feel, I don't think they would have

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<v Speaker 5>minded if that had happened when they were coming back. Really,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I think it's someone had gone up to

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<v Speaker 5>Brother Lord or Maratha Own and said, if you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to win gold but you'll die of plank posh on

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<v Speaker 5>the way back. I know competitors fairly well, and I

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<v Speaker 5>think that some of them would have gone, well, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm not quite sure the point you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make, Ruth, because I'm.

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<v Speaker 5>Trying, and I'm trying. I don't know what the point

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<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to make about that is. But I knew them,

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<v Speaker 5>I remember them. It was awful. I feel equally horrible

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<v Speaker 5>for the parents of these poor kids and the grandparents

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<v Speaker 5>of these poor kids, absolutely because I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, and my heart purs out to them, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>and I hope thank you will and you but I

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<v Speaker 5>want someone said about the slight controllers that these people

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<v Speaker 5>pay by the federal government to people who sit there

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<v Speaker 5>and tell the planes but one way to go, John,

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<v Speaker 5>And they're not paid enos, and they're orange. Enough of them,

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<v Speaker 5>and they are retiring, and that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 5>that you're getting more and more of this kind of

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<v Speaker 5>thing happening here, all right, because enough of them them.

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<v Speaker 2>We've hit that. And and I thank you for calling,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thank you for adding your voice to our

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<v Speaker 2>conversation today.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry if I sound like a luna chip. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>rearing up.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound upset, and I think we're all up. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. Let me get real quickly here, Alex

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<v Speaker 2>and Millis Alex want to get you in here soon enough.

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<v Speaker 2>The way through the commercial go ahead, Alex.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh hid My heart goes out to those fourselves. But

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to say, there's three possibilities. It's either

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<v Speaker 7>the helicopter pilots, the American Airline plane, or the air

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<v Speaker 7>traffic controllers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've covered the waterfront there for sure.

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<v Speaker 7>Well one of the three is gotta be you know

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<v Speaker 7>what happened. But the other thing is I thought we

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<v Speaker 7>had you know, the planes have an anti collision warning device,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not, I'm not doesn't work below I'm told it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work below one thousand feet, and they they collided

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<v Speaker 2>in three and fifty feet, right.

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<v Speaker 7>Can I tell you many years ago, I was flying

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<v Speaker 7>into because I've flown so many times to Greece, I

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<v Speaker 7>was flying into Athens Airport and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 7>the landing gear was having an issue and I could

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<v Speaker 7>see so I could see the you know, the emergency

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<v Speaker 7>vehicles you know below and thankfully everything worked out okay,

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<v Speaker 7>but it was so and I can't imagine what those

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<v Speaker 7>people want through if they did, if they probably didn't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's what's happened. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think obviously never should have happened. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think it was pretty all right.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thank you so much. I appreciate your calling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>good night, good night. Take a break here on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a one line at six one seven, two

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<v Speaker 2>five four and one at six one, seven, nine thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, let's keep it rolling. You're gonna go to John

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<v Speaker 2>in Boston. John, tough night here, You're you're next on

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<v Speaker 2>night Side, John.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, ah right, good evening, Dan. Lately what I've heard

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<v Speaker 7>on the radio, I feel so upright gone. My stomach

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<v Speaker 7>feels sick. You know, uh this news tonight, Uh the

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<v Speaker 7>other day or last week. Uh, twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 7>woman got out of the car and Vermont and shot

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<v Speaker 7>and killed the board of a trolley agent. They shot

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<v Speaker 7>back and killed the boyfriend put in the hospital. I

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<v Speaker 7>hope you've covered that.

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<v Speaker 2>One well, did yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, yeah, you did, okay, but I mean you

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<v Speaker 7>can't do.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a whole hour on it. But it's insane. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean twenty one year old. Oh gives a woman a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one year old anything but crazy that takes here

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<v Speaker 2>her life?

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<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, yeah, yeah. And then I heard the news

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<v Speaker 7>an eighteen year old boy shar teenage girl in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 7>My stomach's upside down thinking about all this and this

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<v Speaker 7>last night. This reminds me of when I was in

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<v Speaker 7>junior high school. Mister Lucci said, these things are towering

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<v Speaker 7>monument in these people's lives. Most of us we listen,

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<v Speaker 7>we'll probably move on pretty quickly from it and remember it.

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<v Speaker 7>But these people that affects it's a towering monument in

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<v Speaker 7>their lives. And I don't know why the air traffic

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<v Speaker 7>controllers are on the staff. New rules should be put

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<v Speaker 7>in place. They shouldn't work more than six hours a day.

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<v Speaker 7>They're well paid with an hour break in between this.

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<v Speaker 7>There's no excuse money wise. I mean, it makes me sick.

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<v Speaker 7>This country gives billions to I won't name the country,

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<v Speaker 7>some billions of this country. There are plenty money to

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<v Speaker 7>give away to other countries. There should be well, they

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<v Speaker 7>should be well paid there, and there's no excuse for

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<v Speaker 7>anything like this. I don't understand it. You know why

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<v Speaker 7>any airport or any traffic control tower has to be understaffed.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I don't get.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, people respond, John, I agree with you totally. Of

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<v Speaker 2>all the places that should be overstaffed or certainly fully staffed,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be airports because.

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<v Speaker 7>And well paid. But I don't think they should work

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<v Speaker 7>among the six hours a day. Those people. I'm with you,

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<v Speaker 7>they got enough to do. Yeah, I'm with you. Shouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>mean not only the six hour days, more than enough.

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<v Speaker 7>We don't want them overwork.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks, thank you, Thank you, John, Thank you. Question. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a good suggestion. Mel Is in Watertown, Meil. You're next

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<v Speaker 2>time nightside, go.

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<v Speaker 7>Right ahead, my Dan, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>I can hear you. Fine, Thanks, it's Melanie. Huh, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just wanted to say, long time listener, second

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<v Speaker 6>time caller, okay, go ahead. But this issue has me

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<v Speaker 6>so upset. And there was another night I wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>call you too, So these are both related. I just think, well, first,

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<v Speaker 6>prayers go out to the folks that lost their lives,

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<v Speaker 6>their families, their loved ones. It's horrific having had a

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<v Speaker 6>chance to do the research. But this has been a

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<v Speaker 6>well known problem that we don't have enough air traffic

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<v Speaker 6>controllers in the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 7>It takes a long.

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<v Speaker 6>Time to train them. It's not a matter of just

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<v Speaker 6>paying them enough. There's not enough people to even fill

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<v Speaker 6>the seats. So it's not like you can just snap

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<v Speaker 6>your fingers and have these people at already. It's the

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<v Speaker 6>same thing with firefighters, police officers. We don't pay them

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<v Speaker 6>all you don't want And just today I got so

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<v Speaker 6>mad listening to the diversity because if they hired people

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<v Speaker 6>that did have disabilities, maybe we would be even better

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<v Speaker 6>off because they would want the job and they would

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<v Speaker 6>do the job. We don't have enough people that want

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<v Speaker 6>the job.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. I mean, I think that would

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<v Speaker 2>be a job that if you have an interest, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have an interest in an issue, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you have an interest in airplane safety and all

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<v Speaker 2>of that, And I think there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people and like the idea of being in control. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you can do psychological analysis on people. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to have people who cool, calm and collected. We

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<v Speaker 2>used to have a director at WBZ. When I worked

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<v Speaker 2>in TV many years ago, I always said he sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like an air traffic controller because no matter whatever was

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<v Speaker 2>going on, Steve never lost his composure. And if all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden a couple of live shots went down,

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<v Speaker 2>when most people in the control would be screaming brack

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, Steve and saying, Okay, let's just calm down here,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to kill that live shot. Let's go Let's

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<v Speaker 2>go to the anchor. Okay, anchor, fine, let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>to whether. I mean he just controlled that he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a magnificent director.

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<v Speaker 6>And I just think disability doesn't mean depending on the

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<v Speaker 6>disability doesn't mean that you don't have a calm demeanor.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I'm agreeing with I'm totally agreeing with you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>totally agreeing with you. Could be you could be confined

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<v Speaker 2>to a wheelchair and you have a disability theoretically, but

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<v Speaker 2>your mental acuity, uh, and your demeanor and your interest

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<v Speaker 2>in the issue. You want people who are qualified, and

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter what color they are, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter how tall they are, how short they are, how

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<v Speaker 2>handsome they are, or how beautiful they are. You want

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<v Speaker 2>people who can keep their heads, you know, when when

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<v Speaker 2>others are losing their.

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<v Speaker 6>Wits, and there's training you can do, their simulations you

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<v Speaker 6>can do to find out who would be good in

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<v Speaker 6>the job or not so related to my their issue.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know a lot of people want to call tonight.

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<v Speaker 6>One night you were on or you're always on, but

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<v Speaker 6>you're talking to somebody and you said, I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what a chief people in culture person really does. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know what this job title and it may not

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<v Speaker 6>have been that exact job title, but the chief people officer,

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<v Speaker 6>the chief, it's the new title for strategic planning of

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<v Speaker 6>your workforce. And they're the ones that have probably been saying,

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<v Speaker 6>don't have people in the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at what I wish I could recall. I

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<v Speaker 2>get bossed with you. I wish I could recall the

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<v Speaker 2>comment that you're attributing to me when you say chiefs

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<v Speaker 2>like like Kansas City chief, h I E F.

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<v Speaker 6>S YEP, chief people officer, chief strategic or strategic people

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<v Speaker 6>or strategic human resource person. It's like a business strategy

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<v Speaker 6>per it may have been people's strategy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know. To be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't artist to god cod recall it. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of people who work in companies,

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<v Speaker 2>who get settled into companies. I'm looking for people who

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<v Speaker 2>are productive, that's all. Whether you're working as a steel worker,

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<v Speaker 2>you're working in a sawmill, a doctor's office, an er,

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<v Speaker 2>you need people who are smart and who can accomplish

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<v Speaker 2>the job, and who also have a passion about the job.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all. You want somebody, whether it's somebody playing for

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots or somebody work in an emergency room, you

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<v Speaker 2>want someone who really is into the job. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>I want. And wherever I go, if I go to

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<v Speaker 2>the store and someone's a store clerk, I want someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's friendly and appreciates you as a customer. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. You know, we're so lucky in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's let's let's be happier, let's be more upbeat.

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<v Speaker 2>I try to be. I hope others will join me

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<v Speaker 2>in that feeling. How much would those folks who last

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<v Speaker 2>night hopefully went to a better place, how much you

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<v Speaker 2>think they would give to be back with their families tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>safe and safe and sound. They'd give everything, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And I just think we take a lot for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>In this country, we take a lot for granted. Every

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<v Speaker 2>day we wake up, every day's a gift. Make the

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<v Speaker 2>most of it. Mel I loved you. Call Call more often,

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<v Speaker 2>will you?

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan, Thanks talking to you. Soon here comes to ten

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock news. Stay in the line. If not, fill it

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<v Speaker 2>up six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven, nine three, ten thirty. Going to start it

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<v Speaker 2>off when we get back with Chuck in Georgia and

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Bridgewater. Got some room for you.