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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It is time for total bases.

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It is Tuesday. Had to think about that for a second,

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forget what day it is sometimes, but Tuesday is always

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five dollars Tuesday at the wager Talk site. I'm here

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with Tokyo Brandon Brian Leonard. We're gonna hit as many

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baseball games as possible over the next forty five minutes,

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and I'm gonna start. Well, let's start the same place

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we did yesterday. Yankees Mariners heads over to TBS tonight

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here in the States, National TV game winner for me

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last night on the Mariners, Brian Leonard my only client play.

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It was nice to win in walk off fashion for

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once after getting walked off multiple times over the weekend.

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So the Mariners get it done two to one, use

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a whole bunch of relievers in the process. Now you've

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got Max Freed, Logan Gilbert. Definitely a matchup worthy of

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National TV. So talk to me about Yankees Mariners. Do

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you see it going the other way? Or you back

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on the Mariners tonight?

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Speaker 2: Ye, Mariners. If you've noticed, I'm wearing my glasses today

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because I haven't been seeing the card well. So for

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this season, I had I had a small player on

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the Yankees. I only had small plays yesterday in baseball.

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But uh yeah, it's been a rough start. You're right.

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Both these guys are people you like to back. We're

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actually getting to the point now in the season where

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we've got a little bit of information behind us, and

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I know that means a lot to Tokyo. Brandon is.

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He doesn't use a lot of last year's stats, and

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maybe I shouldn't have either because it's getting off to

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a rough start. But hey, let's get him back tonight.

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Gilbert going for Seattle tonight, and he's one of my

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favorite pitchers. He's going at home. I've talked many times

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about how well these Seattle pitchers pitch at home, and

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they struggle on the road a little bit. But he's

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been very good against both lefties and righties. He's probably

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gonna play six lefties tonight, and he's got a thirty

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one point seven to five point nine strikeout the walk

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ratio in that regard, which is very similar to what

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he does against against the So he's very good. He

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doesn't have any any problem going left already. It either

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really does the pitcher for the Yankees going today in

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Max Free, He's very much the same way too, slightly better,

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I guess one or the other, but not major differentials

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for differentials like you see many times in the lineup today.

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It's like, oh, Tony's only going to face one left

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handed batter probably, or one right handed batter in the

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Cleveland lineup tonight. But like both these pitchers, the offenses

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have been hitt and miss so far from both these teams. Obviously,

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when you take a look at this line we are seeing,

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basically it's it's somewhat of a pick on. The Yankees

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are slightly favored into one ten to one to fifteen

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ranch total of a seven. Normally I'd say the under here,

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but the Yankees do have one of the best hitting

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teams in Major League Baseball. It's when like the Dodgers

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or the Yankees are playing, it's tough to play unders

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because the offenses can go off at any time. So

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I'm saying the line basically what I thought it was

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going to be. So there's not enough on me heater

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to make it to play, and because of the way

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we've been playing lately, I don't want to force anything.

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So maybe maybe Brandon has something better than I do

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on this one or maybe yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, TV. You had Max Freed on opening Day,

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a nice easy winner with the Yankees in their opener

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out in San Francisco. So now you get Max Freed

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around second time. I think he went six and a third,

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two hits, no runs, look really good on opening day.

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How do you are you riding it with Max Freed

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here after that opening day effort?

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Speaker 3: He did look good on opening day, and Gilbert didn't

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look too good on opening Day, So yeah, what do

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you do with these guys? Well, take a look at

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the bullpens. I think the Yankees bullpen. I mean, Seattle's

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known for their bullpen, but the Yankees bullpen is playing

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really well right now. Like Brian said, we're starting to

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build up some stats now so we can kind of

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judge how things are. But you know, these guys have

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and they're on their second team, So take it with

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a little bit of a grain assault, But yeah, the

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Yankees bullpen is playing well. On my Twitter Tokyo underbar Brandon,

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I put up the today's pitchers and their ops against

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the team they're playing against, and yeah, Max Fried's ops

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in sixty three at bats against these batters that he

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faces today is six point twenty. And I've said in

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previous shows that seven point fifty is kind of my

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Mendoza line. So he's under the Mendoza line. It means

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he does pretty well against these batters. You might be

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surprised to know that Logan Gilbert's ops in seventy four

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at bats against these guys is a whopping nine to fourteen.

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and I put the whole list every starter up on

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my on my Twitter ex. Tokyo and Barburton. The caveat

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to this, though, is you don't know how recent these

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these numbers are. They could be four or five years ago,

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and generally when I do my stats, I only consider

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last year and partial twenty twenty four at this point.

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tooth pitchers like Castillo and even Freed's been around for

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a while. Some of these might be from six years ago.

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But it is telling to know that Gilbert has been

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rocked by these guys at least at some point in

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thousand ops's against him in twenty or more sorry ten

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or more at bats, so that's relevant. I like the Yankees.

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I made a free play video about this. I sent

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it in that Wager Talk might not have uploaded it yet,

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but it's on their YouTube channel. I like the Yankees

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on the money Line, and I think it's good value.

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They're Bullpens in good form. They Aaron Judge, they have

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Max Freed. It's Yankees or nothing for me. Yeah, listen,

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I go ahead, I might make it my parlay leg.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I can't really argue there. I thought Free looked

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really good in his opening start, and and like you said, Gilbert,

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he battled against the Guardians, but that I don't think

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there is a very good Guardians lineup, and they got

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to him for enough. It wasn't a it wasn't a

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bad start, but you're right, TV, it was it was not.

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You know, when you're betting on Logan Gilbert, you kind

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of need better than that. Typically where he's he's priced

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for me. Yesterday, I just came to the conclusion that Okay,

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my power rankings. I have the Mariners one, I had

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the Yankees two. And I kind of sat there and said,

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wait a minute, so I could get the team that

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I have won against the team that I have two

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at minus one oh five. I'm not at a pitching deficit,

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and all my bullpen guys are healthy. That was I

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was ultimately rational with landing on Seattle last night. Something

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I found interesting. I saw wager Talk Gianni are our coworker,

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Gianni the Greek who you know, I mean, if he's

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gonna give something out to probably listen to it. He

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posted his MLB power rankings to the wager Talk site

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yesterday in a video, and he didn't have the Mariners

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in his top five. And I said, okay, that's I'm

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surprised that that there's It almost seems like there's like

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a pretty polarizing opinion when it comes to this team.

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I have them so high. And last night to close

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that game out for Jose Ferrar to bizarre or de

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That's that's as good as you're gonna get But all

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four of those guys pitched last night, so we're early

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in the season. I still think you probably see some

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of them here. I don't think anyone went crazy with

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with pitch count, but it's not as good of a

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spot for the Mariners as last night was in my opinion.

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I'm kind of with you, TV. I think i'd go

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I think it would be Yankees or pass for me

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as well. Right here, Brian, Sorry, did you have something

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to add there?

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Speaker 2: Before we move on, I'll put up a finger in

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case I have something to add.

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Speaker 3: Brian in the finger.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's there's plenty of other games to get to,

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so go ahead. TV.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to cut in.

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Speaker 1: It's five dollars Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: By the way, all three of us will certainly have

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a play up today for five dollars. I have a

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four percenter up so in MLB, so I just wanted

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to throw that in make management happy.

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Speaker 1: So we will move along. Yeah, I'll bring up the parlay.

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Yesterday it was ozho and three, but guess what Friday

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the parlay went three and oh. And you know when

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you're doing Parlays. I think that's right, that's how you'd

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rather have it. Although I know some people bet the

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the best bets individually. So anyway, uh yeah, listen, gee Hurt,

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I don't know if the Jays being ashamed of themselves. Listen,

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you want to know something even more rosiculous. Here's even

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more ridiculous. I went into a ten minute my under

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the Radar segment yesterday. I did ten minutes on Cody

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Ponce and how I expected this like breakout of him

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and the poor guy like pulls a hamstringer gets he

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leaves the game injured. He wasn't pitching bad too, you know,

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into the third. I think that if he made the play,

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the run probably would have come in. But the stuff's

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looking decent, and I think that's the reason. You know,

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the Jays they lose their starter in the third. They

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once it went off the rails, it just it just

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kind of went off the rails. So we can go

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back to that series here. So I'm going to go

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to Brian. Brian talk to me about man. I feel

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like I maybe cursed Cody Ponce. He's back in the States.

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For the first time in four years. Is his debut

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with the Blue Jays, and I I don't know how

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much I might have put him on the il for

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a couple of months after that, but let's go to

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that game. I'll go to you Rockies, Blue Jays and

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what did you see there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like it's a it's going to be

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a serious injury. And I think that took the air

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out of Toronto because they've had so many starting pitchers

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get hurt this year. It's a team coming into the

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season expect to go back to the World Series, so

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they continue to lose their starters and they just don't

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have the depth to do it. I think that's what

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it is, an in game thing where you just don't God,

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here we go again. But today they got Feldner going

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for Colorado, and we talked about it. We like Colorado

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better this year than we have in the past. Still

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the road Rockies, everybody writes it up as an automatic win.

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But like I said before this series started, they're on

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the road. They haven't been in Colorado yet. And when

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we Colorado travels from home to road, that's when you

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take care. You could take advantage of the road Rockies

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Felner goal for Colorado. Shares are going for Toronto. Toronto

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big favorite here and they're about to watch seventy five.

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slightly on this one. Yeah, I'm sorry to seventy Yes. Yeah,

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Schurezer joined the team late because he was a late Sidney.

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now we haven't seen a lot, he looks really good

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right now. He's a dog out there. He's going to

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make sure this team is ready to go in this game.

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I want to really lay this kind of number with Toronto?

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I'm not sure. I think there's better ways to make

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money on the cards, so I'm passing. But you would

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expect from a veteran team that that happened to yesterday,

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we would expect a nice bounce back. But baseball isn't

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like a physical sport like good basketball or a football,

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so it's a little you have to take it with

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a little bit of a grand salt.

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Blue Jays. I was more inclined to do it yesterday

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like we had such a nice pitching edge. I'm not

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sure that the pitching edge, even even with Feldner, I

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don't think it's as pronounced here. My my numbers suggest

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that Rockies plus one and a half, which is now

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four and oh on the season. We brought that up

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on the first show, that that would be a good

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way to play the Rockies. It's four and oh against

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the number. I think that's how I would go again.

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I I you know, I'll tell you what one thing

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about the Blue Jays. They have nothing at the Triple

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A level right now. I don't know where they're getting

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reinforcements from unless they I mean, they have very very

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little in the pipeline in terms of like big league

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ready pitching. So that is a that is rough for

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them to lose Ponts and like you said, probably lose

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him for uh, you know, for for a long period

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of time. Yeah. Tough, tough loss, right there, Rockies plus

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one and a half. Yeah, it's still undefeated, four and

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oh against the number.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how long TV.

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Speaker 1: I want to come to you with I want to

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move it along to a different game. Uh, one that

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I agreed with you on yesterday, just it didn't work out.

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And that's the Tigers and the Diamondbacks. And you know,

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kind of something that we brought up was, listen, Arizona's

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still probably gonna hit. So lineups still, you know, they

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still have a respectable lineup. Corbyn Carroll could tell Marte

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per Domo there's there's offense there. Verlander yesterday didn't have

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it and Arizona was able to sort of pound their

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way to a nine to six win. I think you

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were a day early on the Tigers. I think I'm

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kind of leaning toward the Tigers here. I was wondering

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if you're willing to come back with Detroit out in

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the desert tonight.

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Speaker 3: So this is what's interesting. And I was watching that

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game last night, and uh, very interestingly, as soon as

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the Diamondbacks took a seven to nothing lead and their

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starter came out of the game, I said, they're gonna

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come back, They're gonna they took their starter at I

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think after the fifth inning. I think it was If

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I'm not miss I could be wrong, but I was like,

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they're gonna get four full innings on this bullpen, they're

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gonna come back, and they almost did. So yeah, I

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agree with you Adam and your sentiment there. I think,

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uh Man, that Arizona bullpen is bad. They got nobody nobody,

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but they hit a lot. So, like I said in

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the very first show that we did together this season,

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look for a lot of overs with this team, especially

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in that ballpark. Bullpen is atrocious, but they got some

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solid hitting. I mean, Carol whacked it last night. I mean,

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I mean, yeah, it was a good It was a

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good game for them. Taking a look at the OPS

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ranking rankings, though, Mayes has a five to twenty nine

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OPS against these batters and only thirty three at bats

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and fat has a one thousand and one to sixty

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OPS against these batters in twenty five at bats. So

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definitely pitching advantage to Detroit. A definitely both advantage to Detroit.

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The problem is they're hitting is just flaccid. So if

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they can get any kind of I love that word,

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if they can get any kind of run production, they

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they should be able to win this. But you know,

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it's like it's like in football when like Toledo's playing

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Hawaii and it's like seventy five to seventy You know,

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it's it turns into these kind of games. Can Detroit

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you know, uh, put it up and keep up with

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the Arizona Bats, That's the question. So I'm gonna stay

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off this game. Over would be the only way I

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would go in any Diamondbacks game for the rest of

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the year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't make a MAC Football reference without

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bringing Brian Leonard in. So if you're gonna throw it,

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you're gonna throw the MATC conference in here. We got

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to get his gotta get his take on this. I

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guess the question I would ask you, Brian, you know

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Casey Mize was I was pretty anti Casey Mice at one.

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Speaker 3: Point, and last year I think you were. Ye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he he he sort of like won me

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over over in the respect that like I feel like

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he's kind of reinvented himself. I don't know that he's

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He's certainly not a fade for me at this point. TB.

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I'll go, I'll echo your sentiment. The Diamondbacks bullpen is bad.

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I mean it is. It is a problem. So you

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know yesterday they don't really need the bullpen. They built

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themselves up such a big cushion. You know, I see

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the Tigers that even money here, It's it's hard to

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not to like want to take a shot with that price, Brian,

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you know ge Hurt in the chat, let me pull

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his comment up. He says, you know, snakes are passed,

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they casey mees and the bump. You know, is he

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going to hit the bottom of the rotation. I don't

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know that I agree with that being like a deterrent

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for me to be on the Tigers. So you know,

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how are you seeing miz the Tigers? And you know,

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talk to g Hurt there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, neither one of us really like myes last year,

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but I agree he's grown on me a little bit.

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Rando font for Arizona. As I said yesterday, a lot

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of these pictures have looked really good at spring training

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and it's been blown up in my face panic yesterday.

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But fot has looked good. And keep in mind he

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was highly regarded as a minor league or big strikeout guy.

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It hasn't really been that way in the majors. But

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he was terrible last year, no doubt about it. He

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was a good You get so many starts from the

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year before you go God how many times am I

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going to lose on this guy. It's tough to come

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back and back him. But the line to me looks

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about where it should be. I expect both pitchers to

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have have a pretty good game here. This This is

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a pretty good hitters ballpark, So I don't like to

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bet the under in this one, but I'm not finding

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an edge here either way. I think both these pitchers

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are going to have better seasons than what they saw

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in the past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean five. If he ever figures out the

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secondary stuff again, he could be very good. That fastball

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is a big fastball. You know what, Brian, I'm gonna

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stay with you and then and then we'll get Tokyo

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the next one. Just because blister bets here says thank

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you by your breakdown on the Dodgers Guardians game yesterday.

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I wish I played Guardians first five, but the under

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verse five won me some good coin mess. It pitched

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very effect efficiently. Yeah, he did that. That was a

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great call Guardians. I mean, you know, Brian, I think

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now we're both in the mode of like the other

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shoe to drop mode with this team. I think because

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they did look good yesterday and so I'll go back

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to you show. Hey, Otani, Tanner, Biby looks like the

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matchup tonight, So talk to me. Dodgers Guardians. Do you

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know when do we start fading the Guardians? I guess

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that's a question.

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Speaker 2: Well, as much as I talked up the Guardians, and

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yesterday's game was because of the starting pitcher, and he

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was great, and I like the fire. He had something

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to keep in mind for the rest of the season.

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I've always liked he's the best picture, and I mentioned

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that yesterday. I think he's the best picture in the

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organization starting pitchers. But the problem was I used Cleveland

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over one and a half first five runs, and I

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always scored one. Now that I had other kinds on base,

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thought they would go to score. So I'm probably the

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only one out there that didn't play my entire Andy

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cap and it ended up losing. What are you gonna do?

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One and a half percent? But anyway, he got tenor

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Biby going against Sotani today, and when Tony starts as

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a starting pitcher, if you're a prop player, I like

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to bet against his props from hitting because he's got

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something else on his mind. If you take a look

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at his stats when he's dhing as a post to pitching.

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So if you're a prop guy, I'm not really I

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follow it a little bit, but I don't give out

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a lot of plays to clients. But he hasn't done

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well in that regard. But Biby did have They pulled

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up earlyer the last start he had, he had some problems,

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but a few days later he said he was great,

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So they were really originally concerned and but no, everything

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seems to be good for Bibby. I'm not a big

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fan of this Cleveland offense. They have some guys right

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now hitting over their heads and so as the team

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I'm looking to face overall. But do I really want

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to lay anywhere from two thirty five to seventy on

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the Dodgers here? It would be Dodgers or nothing for me.

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But I think there's other ways to play it as

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opposed to straight up. Cleveland's bullpad is still very good.

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Dodgers have a very good bullpad. Maybe Dodgers first half

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and try to try to find something with that, or

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maybe Cleveland team total under first off something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: Tokyo, Brandon, You're good at in the other ways to

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play the bigger favorites department. I feel like you do

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a good job at this, so I'll bring you in here.

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Can you find a way to play the Dodgers here,

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you know, try to circumvent this large price.

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Speaker 3: I can't. Unfortunately. If anything, I would play like a

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O tiny pitching prompt. Okay, like I would play his

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outs under perhaps if you look at his early season starts,

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he generally comes out of games pretty early, and the

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Dodgers do not want to get him injured in his

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first start, So any kind of outs prop under perhaps,

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especially if it's fifteen point five, definitely playing under, but

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it's probably you're probably not gonna get that, and you're

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probably gonna be fourteen and a half. Probably his strikeouts

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I haven't projected at six strikeouts and fourteen outs recorded,

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So I would look at that if you have to

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bet this game. But I think there's other ways to

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make money today, and.

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Speaker 1: That is what we are here to ultimately find, you know,

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working our way through the chats. Obviously, if you're new

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to the show, hang around. Last fifteen minutes will be

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giving out the best bets for the show. But this

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is the period of the show where we do things

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like try to talk people off of play. I guess

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plays they don't want. Gee Hurt says, someone talk me

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off the Nats again today, So I'll go to Brian.

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I mean, I guess the quick thing I would say

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is like maybe Andrew Painter has arrived. I guess that

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would be the way you look at like potentially not

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being on the Nationals. This is a guy that I

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feel like Philly has been waiting forever to come up

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and be in the rotation, and now he's in the rotation.

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So Bryan Leonard, can you talk gee her off the

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Nats today?

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Speaker 2: I'm glad somebody asked for this one because this is

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probably going to be my play in the parlay today.

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Speaker 1: PJ.

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Speaker 2: Polland is going for Washington. He's been installed as a reliever.

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He's already pitched twice this season coming out of the

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ball been He's a lefty and if you take a

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look at his breakdowns, he's a LEFTI. He doesn't have

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a lot of control against lefties. Last year he had

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a thirty two point six strikeout percentage, which is very good,

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but his walk percentage against lefties was fifteen point two percent.

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He wasn't a whole lot better against Ready, but his

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strikeout right went really down eighteen point one, dropped from

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thirty two point six to eighteen point one. With facing

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Righty's his walk Gray was still eleven point one. So

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you've got a Washington pitcher who I'm assuming is only

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going to be out there for an inning or two

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and he's had control problems. Philadelphi's a veteran team. They

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should be able to draw some walks here, and I

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think that's going to be good for them. The problem

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with Washington is we've talked about this bullpen being the

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worst in Major League Baseball. Cole Henry's who usually their

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eighth inning guy. He's pitched to the last three days.

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Brad Lord is their seventh inning guy. He threw fifty

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one pitches yesterday. He won't be there. So that leaves

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Clayton Veeter along with the rest of the bullpen that

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are the worst of the bullpen arms. So there's a

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way to play this game, and it's not going to

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be on Washington for me. When you're looking at obviously,

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when you're looking at the Phillies, we've all heard about

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Andrew Panner. Excited for Andrew Panner, but it is a

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game in which people have been waiting for. So you're

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looking at you know, the line out there is anywhere

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from like one seventy five to one ninety. I like

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the Philadelphia spot, but maybe we're doing better. We'll look

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better at the team total. Let's take a look at

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the team total here for Philadelphia. You can get any

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It just goes anywhere from three and a half to

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five and a half. Right now, I'm saying a four

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and a half out there at minus one forty I

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like to I like the Philadelphia team total over. I'd

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even I'd even lay it for them to get six

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00:24:32,319 --> 00:24:35,680
runs and get plus money back. So let's let's take

475
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,759
a look at that. I like the Philadelphia team total.

476
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,799
I'll even go to the five and a half here.

477
00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,559
I'm pretty confident they're gonna have a lot of success

478
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:48,400
against this Washington pitching staff. Let's look at playing Philadelphia

479
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,960
to score six or more runs, and you're getting them

480
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,039
about a plus one oh five or something to that range.

481
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,400
So I'll go with that. I think Philadelphia gets to

482
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:00,680
this Washington team this right here.

483
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: And Brian, just to clarify, that was Phillies team total over.

484
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,519
What was the price on that and a half over

485
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,440
five and a half. Okay, perfect, we will uh, and

486
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,200
we'll recap the parloight the end of the show. I'll

487
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,039
just say a couple of words about Andrew Paynter quick

488
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,160
before we move on on major league debut. Uh, he's

489
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,000
only twenty two. I think that's like the thing that's

490
00:25:22,079 --> 00:25:24,359
like he's been if you've if you follow the miners

491
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,359
and the prospects, he's been around for a while. Tommy

492
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,359
John surgery a couple of years ago. Uh, they really

493
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,599
protected him last year. He could they could have easily

494
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,880
called him up at some point last year, and they just,

495
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:38,519
you know, he was coming off of an injury. It

496
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:41,240
wasn't like he was just totally dominant in the miners.

497
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,559
And and that's that's the luxury. When you're the Phillies

498
00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:46,640
and you're just you're gonna win one hundred games, you

499
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,839
don't you don't need to bring a guy like that

500
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,240
up and and potentially expose him to the big leagues

501
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,799
and have him, you know, get his confidence shattered and stuff.

502
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:57,039
So now he's had an entire offseason. This was the

503
00:25:57,079 --> 00:26:00,519
thirteenth overall pick in twenty twenty one, and they are

504
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,400
the organization's very high on him. I think is part

505
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,680
of the reason that they were willing to let Ranger

506
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,039
Suarez go, knowing that, you know, they expect him to

507
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,240
hold down a rotation spot this year. So I'm pretty

508
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:13,680
high on him as well. I think he's gonna be

509
00:26:13,759 --> 00:26:17,480
pretty solid and uh so, yeah, I'm I'm with Philly's

510
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,640
correlated stuff in this game. I still think the Nats

511
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,200
are awful. I think I don't know how they win games,

512
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,079
to be honest with you, his team's gonna start losing

513
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:32,119
games soon. So TV, I'm gonna go. H I see you,

514
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,799
you know, chatting up with leg Show magazine in the chat,

515
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,920
I'm gonna go to leg Show here and I'll send

516
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,799
this to you. He brings up the A's OH to

517
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,720
four straight up in first five. Yeah, the A's not

518
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:46,480
off to a great start. Who would have thought that? Oh,

519
00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:49,000
we did, because we said that probably would happen on

520
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:51,759
our opening show. So the oh and four A's heading

521
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:55,279
out to Atlanta tonight, Will staying in Atlanta. Looks like

522
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:59,000
we've got a couple of journeymen on the mound. Aaron Savale,

523
00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:02,200
Jose Suarez. How are you seeing this one? A's Braves.

524
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,079
Speaker 3: I won the Braves yesterday. Uh so yeah, I was

525
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,079
pretty happy about that. Let me address two things in

526
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,240
the chat very quickly. One person asked, what does F

527
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,079
five mean in your plays? It means first five innings? Uh.

528
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,400
And then uh, someone else said, leave it to Brandon

529
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920
tell say that Washington is trash and then they come

530
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480
out and win. So yeah, Uh, if you need Cody

531
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:28,960
Ponce to come back off his injury, just let me

532
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,400
talk trash about him and he'll probably come back and

533
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,519
win the cy Young So anyways, to address this one,

534
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,480
the A's. The A's are another team that. Man, their

535
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,079
pitching is not performing, but they have some Their one

536
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,960
two three is really nice. They're they're whacking it really good.

537
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,319
Not much of a bullpen. So this is another team

538
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,559
I look to a lot of overs on. I really

539
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,720
want to play the Braves in this one, but a

540
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,279
couple things holding me back number one two in a row.

541
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,759
I'm not one of those guys. I treat every game

542
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:12,960
as kind of its own entity, so I don't really

543
00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,839
do the like streak or on a roll kind of thing.

544
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,240
But recently I haven't been able to win the same

545
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,079
team two times in a row, so it's kind of

546
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,799
kind of a voodoo for me. Is kind of a

547
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:28,160
taboo for me, so I'm not sure if I'll do it,

548
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,400
but the price is pretty nice at minus one forty.

549
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,240
The Braves seem like they can win those one two

550
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,319
three lineup for the A's though that scares me a

551
00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,400
little bit. Rooker and solderstrom Man they can whack it,

552
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,920
but their pitching is terrible. If anything, I would take

553
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,240
the over, but Jose Suarez is kind of an X

554
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:53,039
factor for me here. So those two factors are keeping

555
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:55,720
me off the two in a row thing, and then

556
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,960
the Jose Suarez. I don't really know what to expect

557
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,480
from him.

558
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:05,039
Speaker 1: Yeah I listen, Oh yeah, no, let's I'll I'm gonna

559
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:06,680
go to Brian here. I was just gonna say that

560
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,920
that's going to be the the conundrum with the A's

561
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,920
this year, because they do have some really you know,

562
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:15,359
exciting offensive players. They're gonna hit, but you're gonna have

563
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,640
to factor in some pitching. That again, I think Brian,

564
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,079
and I'll go to you to to sort of, you know,

565
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,799
talk on this. If their young pitchers don't like step

566
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,359
up big time this year, I don't. I don't know

567
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,519
how this staff isn't near the very very bottom of

568
00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:30,839
the week.

569
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. The problem with the A's is

570
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:36,359
hitting sampoint. Is they striking out all the time. They're

571
00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,119
setting records for strikeouts. I believe they've had the most,

572
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,720
and there's small sample size, the most strikeout percentage, highest

573
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:46,559
strikeout percentage of Major League baseball history. I mean, it's

574
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:50,559
been terrible, so I would your first thought would be

575
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440
Jose Suarez strikeouts over. But if you take a look

576
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,480
at what he did last year against right handed batters

577
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,240
and he's expected to see four right handed batters out

578
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,039
of this lineup, his strikeout on the walk ratio was

579
00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,240
exactly the same eleven point nine. How often do you

580
00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:07,920
see a walk rate the same as a strikeout rate

581
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,799
against right handed battery. Now he's a lefty, so that that's, Uh,

582
00:30:12,079 --> 00:30:14,039
he's done pretty well. I guess left he's twenty eight

583
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:16,240
point nine compared to ten point five in the walk rate.

584
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,160
But against right he's he's I don't trust him at all

585
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:22,920
against any right hander out there, So yes, I don't.

586
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,359
I don't like him at all. And uh, but the

587
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,400
age batters are not hitting, maybe maybe it's an underplay.

588
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Who knows, but yeah, open right now is just swing

589
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,799
or Sacramento is just swinging for the fences and it's

590
00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:35,759
not they're not getting.

591
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: Attempt It's a really good observation. There were some awful

592
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,079
swings in that Blue Jays series, like straight up just

593
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,319
not even close, just hacking up there and gee hearts. Yeah,

594
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,440
close your eyes and swing as hard as you possibly can.

595
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:54,200
It looked like that for periods of time in that

596
00:30:54,279 --> 00:30:55,559
opening series for sure.

597
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,359
Speaker 3: Twenty five strikeouts in three games.

598
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gotta that's that's not gonna fly. I mean

599
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:05,440
maybe maybe when you're playing in Sacramento and when you

600
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:07,480
when you hit one of those pop ups, it goes out.

601
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,680
But it is not a probably not a winning strategy,

602
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,680
and it's something that we I feel like we forecasted

603
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,920
on our very first show of the year. I think

604
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440
we all were kind of in agreement that maybe maybe

605
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,839
the market was too high on them.

606
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: And if they struck out twenty five times, you get

607
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,000
twenty seven outs per game, so they struck out an

608
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:29,880
entire game.

609
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:34,279
Speaker 1: It's hilarious TV. I'm coming to you here. We got

610
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:37,680
Frank Gomez with a donation, so very much appreciate you

611
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,480
and and he's he says, thank you, gents. I hit

612
00:31:40,599 --> 00:31:43,880
on both unders for Pirates, Reds and Giants, Padres, Tokyo,

613
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,240
Brandon love your outs list. If you have it for today,

614
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,960
please share so over to you TV. Are you sharing

615
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,200
that today? And this is also your window for a

616
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,240
best bet? So take it.

617
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Speaker 3: Away, okay, best bet. I'm gonna do the Yankees here.

618
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,519
I think they're gonna come back. Take them on the

619
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,200
money line minus one twelve. I already broke it down

620
00:32:03,119 --> 00:32:06,319
on my Twitter at Tokyo underbur brand, and I will

621
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:12,519
since since since mister Gomez asked me specifically, I will

622
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:15,200
put it out later today before the games. It might

623
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,480
be in the evening, but check my Twitter. I will

624
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,880
put it up. I promise. Today's theme is w k

625
00:32:23,079 --> 00:32:25,960
RP and Cincinnati by the way, and I'm Johnny Fever.

626
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, all the Twitter handles are right there on

627
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:34,640
your screen. TV. That's something he tweets out. I think

628
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,720
somewhat somewhat regularly a couple times a week, basically daily.

629
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,359
Speaker 3: There's so many lists though, so I choose which list

630
00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:43,440
to put out today. But if he wants the outs,

631
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,599
I'll put the outs out later.

632
00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what you You ask it on

633
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,000
here and we try to get it to you. So

634
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:53,559
TV is going to make sure you get that outs list,

635
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200
you know. Check that out for check that out on

636
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:59,279
his Twitter. Also check out his page at wager talk

637
00:32:59,319 --> 00:33:01,759
dot com. I think you said four percent play. That's

638
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:05,079
up for five bucks today so far mister yep, four

639
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:07,920
four percenter up for five dollars and then we all

640
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,400
will have something as part of five dollars Tuesday. That's

641
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,519
site wide. Any handicapper on the site five dollars play

642
00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:17,200
at wager talk dot com. I'm going to head to

643
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,759
Brian Leonard Bryan Dealer's choice for you. We already know

644
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,519
what your parlay leg is. Pick a game, and then

645
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:24,319
let's the three of us hit that game before I

646
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:25,240
get to my best bet.

647
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's look at Boston Houston. That's two very

648
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,319
expected to be two very good teams going below against Brown.

649
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Brown's about a one forty five favorite total seven and

650
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680
a half. We've talked to the past about how we're

651
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,279
at least myself and I think Trigger agrees Brian Bellow.

652
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:50,279
It was the wrong starter to give the big contract

653
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:54,039
to never been much of a Bellow fan, but he's

654
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,119
performed better than what I thought he has the last

655
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,200
couple of years. Brown is very polarizing. I know a

656
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,200
lot of guys in in the fantasy community. I think

657
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,160
he's going to have a letdown this season. Other guys

658
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,079
think he's one of the best pitchers in baseball. So

659
00:34:07,119 --> 00:34:11,280
it'll be interesting how this one comes Outtake the look

660
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,800
at the two teams. I'm not a Houston fan this year.

661
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,599
I think Houston's going to come up a little bit short.

662
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,159
They're a team I'm looking to fade, and I think

663
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,440
Boston is clearly, at least in my regard, the better team.

664
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480
So you're getting the better team. Is a nice underdog

665
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,760
price here. Yes it's on the road, but Boston's always

666
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,559
been a pretty good road team. I think there's a

667
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:31,559
little bit of value here on Boston. Although I'm not

668
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:34,960
a huge Bellow fan, I'm leaning that way, and the

669
00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:39,440
money it's pretty balanced here, so it's sticking in that

670
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,280
same range. But I'm just wondering what you had thought here.

671
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,719
I do want to point out that I am going

672
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,880
I've got to excuse me, a four percent play in

673
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,840
hockey going to now you want our hockey play again.

674
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,280
Last night we had Toronto Maple Leafs, a big underdog

675
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,000
winning in every sport. Once again, it stuff for baseball,

676
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,599
So it'll turn around. The Glasses are going to do

677
00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:02,360
it today, folks. But wondering what your thoughts are on

678
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,639
this Boston game, because I think there's a little bit

679
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:07,199
of value on him on them here.

680
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, it is March thirty. First,

681
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:11,880
we have we have plenty of time to get in

682
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:13,760
the in the in the plus in the in the bases,

683
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,440
and I would say handicappers players on the field, that

684
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,480
the the element of randomness those first couple of weeks

685
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,920
is just playing in temperatures like I mean it is.

686
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,719
It is pouring rain, It's it's cold out in the

687
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,719
Northeast right now. It's like those first couple of weeks

688
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,159
are battle So don't sweat that. We'll absolutely get there

689
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:39,840
with the with the results. I'll before I kick it

690
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,880
to TV, I'll just talk about the Astros. Yeah, I'm

691
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,519
I'm in full fade mode with the Astros. The only

692
00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:49,519
reason I haven't done it yet this year is because

693
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,119
I couldn't really find I mean, their opponents so far

694
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:56,039
were the Angels, who I think are atrocious and the

695
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,559
Red Sox who you know, just I had the Red

696
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:03,360
Sox Sunday and just the way they lost that game,

697
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,960
I didn't like, you know, losing in that manner, not

698
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:09,400
really hitting, blowing it to nothing lead and then kind

699
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,000
of having to turn around go to Houston. Because I

700
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:15,559
thought about the Red Sox yesterday, and boy am I

701
00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:18,119
happy that I didn't get involved with them because they

702
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,239
completely no showed that game and eight to one loss.

703
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,840
So yeah, like I'm certainly looking for spots to fade Houston.

704
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,559
But once again, I'm with you, Brian. I don't know

705
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,039
if I can get down, you know, with with Bao

706
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:34,960
on the road here, given how the Red Sox have

707
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,400
come out of the gate one and three, you know,

708
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,079
just that's that's tough. That's tough for me to get

709
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,440
there with them. So I'll bring TV. And why don't

710
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,760
why don't you give us your thoughts? Red Sox astros,

711
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:48,280
how are you looking at this one?

712
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, I've never been a Brian Bao fan, but

713
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,400
looking at his ops against these batters in his career,

714
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,760
it's right on the Mendos the line, and I am

715
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,360
a Hunter Brown fan and he might be polarizing, but

716
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,360
I'm i'm i'm on, I'm in his click. I think

717
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,119
he's great. I think he's on the precipice of being elite.

718
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,119
I got him ranked really high according to my numbers

719
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:17,199
as well. So neither one of these teams really hitting

720
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,760
that well. So I would look. You know, the fact

721
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,960
that I like Hunter Brown and the fact that Boston's

722
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,239
baths seem a little cold, but Astro's bullpen's not performing well,

723
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:30,639
all of that kind of makes me lean to a

724
00:37:30,679 --> 00:37:33,599
first five team total under. And I just went and

725
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:36,280
looked at it. For some reason, the books are switching

726
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,559
back and forth for both of these teams. The full

727
00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:41,320
game you can get either team two and a half

728
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,800
or three and a half, and for the first five

729
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,559
you can get either team one and a half or

730
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,320
two and a half. So that's kind of strange, But

731
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,280
I think the Red Sox first five innings under two

732
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:51,760
and a half would be a pretty good bed if

733
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,599
you can get it. I haven't pulled the trigger on that,

734
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,320
but just you know, since you mentioned it to me,

735
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,239
I just did a little quick research, and that would

736
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,400
be the way I would go. If you can get

737
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,280
a two and a half for Boston in the first five.

738
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,239
I think that would be the way. I think Hunter

739
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,599
Brown's great. His ops against these guys in his career

740
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:11,559
is six oh seven. It's a little bit under the

741
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,599
Mendos line. It's not electric, but it's good enough.

742
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, this is you know ge hurt references.

743
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,480
He saw the you know wager Talk posted Jeohnny's clip

744
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,719
where he gave his top five Major League Baseball teams out.

745
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,159
He had Red Sox at five. I don't think he's

746
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,880
like off on that. Like, I think the Red Sox

747
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,199
are definitely in that. They're definitely in my top ten.

748
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,000
I will say this and maybe I'll loop Bryan back

749
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,320
in here. I had a hard time ranking this team

750
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,000
coming into the season, like I want to believe in them,

751
00:38:44,199 --> 00:38:47,960
but then then I watch what I watched the first

752
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,840
four days of the year, and I know I again.

753
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,360
I came out of the show yesterday and said, hey,

754
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,599
don't overreact to four games, but I can't. I couldn't

755
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,679
watch the last two days and then like justify being

756
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,280
on them here, so so help me make sense of that.

757
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,599
Speaker 2: Well, the reason why I think the Red Sox, there's

758
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:10,039
a lot of people believe in them is that they've

759
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:13,039
got a lot of pitching depth in the miners. Cruchet's

760
00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:17,559
great Sonny Gray, very good, very solid. Connerly early brought

761
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:21,480
up early and he's great. We saw that these looked great.

762
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,519
Speaker 1: Shouldn't have taken him out, in my opinion, continue Yeah.

763
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: And uh, I've never been much of a Swas fan,

764
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:29,519
but and Brian Bellow. But they've got guys down there

765
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:34,199
in the miners that are really good. Peyton Toley, I

766
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,960
really like him. I'm he'll be up in no time.

767
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,480
And they've got some other guys that are very good.

768
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:43,320
So from a depth standpoint in the starting rotation, they've

769
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,239
got probably more depth in that regard to anybody in

770
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,880
that division. And I think that's why Boston. There's a

771
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,599
lot of people like Boston. Plus they've got a lot

772
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,039
of good young players. Roman Athlete is terrific.

773
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:54,679
Speaker 1: Uh.

774
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 2: They you know, they've got so many good outfielders that

775
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,519
they tried to trade Jared Durant and he wouldn't let

776
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:04,360
him train him because he had such a great spring

777
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,719
and he performed well last year. Will you're a Bray,

778
00:40:09,159 --> 00:40:11,199
He's going to be one of the top hitters in

779
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,840
baseball this season. And I like the move I'm bringing

780
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,440
into Kenlan Durman. The guy's got some speed, he plays

781
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:19,840
two different positions. I think got a lot of good

782
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,280
young players on this team. So the future in Boston

783
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,039
is very good, I believe, and in the next couple

784
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:27,480
of years they are going to be the team debat

785
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,559
in this in this division. So I like Boston, but

786
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,159
I don't think I would have had them in my

787
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:34,719
top five.

788
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: Definitely not TV.

789
00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,159
Speaker 1: I you know what about come to you TV, because

790
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,199
I think as I listen to both that you talk

791
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,880
about that, I think I'm you said you like the

792
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,920
under Red Sox under or like something correlated with Hunter Brown.

793
00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:54,440
I'm looking at the chat and they're they're pro Hunter Brown,

794
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,559
and I'm like, you know, watching the Red Sox swing

795
00:40:56,599 --> 00:40:58,440
the bats the last last two days, I don't think

796
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,280
that's a terrible way to look at this here.

797
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:06,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Boston's not swinging the bat that well,

798
00:41:06,119 --> 00:41:09,360
and you know, yeah they have Roman Anthony, but I

799
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,000
mean they're pretty mediocre team as far as I'm concerned,

800
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:13,920
I think the Mets are a lot better than Boston.

801
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,559
I think I think the Mariners are a lot better

802
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,000
than Boss. There's no way, Boston is the fifth best

803
00:41:18,039 --> 00:41:21,639
team in MLB in my opinion. But you know this

804
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,559
is what this is why they play the games, right.

805
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: If they do have why we have it. It's why

806
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,559
we can bet. If everyone we wouldn't have a market.

807
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,159
Speaker 3: To bet exactly exactly. But I'm a big Hunter Brown fan.

808
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:35,159
I think he's good. I think he's really good. But

809
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,360
and I think he's getting better actually, So we'll see though.

810
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,360
I mean, now that I'm backing him, he's probably gonna

811
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,360
rupture an achilles tendon or something, so we'll see. You

812
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,920
go ahead, Brian, Yeah, Brian, Ah.

813
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:49,639
Speaker 2: I just I just wanted to point out we always

814
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:51,719
make fun of ESPN because they talk about shit that

815
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,400
nobody cares about and argue about it. VR. I don't

816
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,239
think in the three years or the time we've been

817
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,599
doing this show two years, we've or Johnny whatever on

818
00:42:02,639 --> 00:42:05,320
the show and because of putting out something like this

819
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:10,000
or he's getting to mention on this show. And that's

820
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,239
one of the things that ESPN does. They throw out

821
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,320
something and somebody will make some not that this is

822
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,440
a bad comment. He probably does have them in that

823
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,880
regard with somebody that might make a comment about something

824
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,800
and they can spend a whole hour talking about it. Yeah,

825
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:23,960
how wrong it is.

826
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. I mean, I think I had

827
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,519
them nine. So it's not like I'm like, I mean,

828
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,679
I'm still I've still got the Red Sox a top

829
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,599
ten team. Shane in the chat says they can't hit

830
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,719
right now. Yeah, that's that is true. But this is

831
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,159
where it comes to like baseball small sample drop this

832
00:42:41,199 --> 00:42:43,800
in the middle of July, no one cares. No One's like, oh,

833
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,599
the Red Sox, Well, they can't hit. So for me,

834
00:42:46,679 --> 00:42:48,639
it's going to be finding a spot to back them.

835
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,239
I am pro. I just want to make that very clear.

836
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:54,920
I am pro Red Sox and finding a spot to

837
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,760
get back in with this team. I just don't know

838
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,599
that it's here. Maybe it's tomorrow. I thought it might

839
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,280
be yesterday, And I'm glad I talked myself off of that.

840
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,480
So for me and the way I think and the

841
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,800
way I bet, because I talked myself off of that

842
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,000
yesterday they lost, I think I can, like, you know,

843
00:43:11,159 --> 00:43:14,519
I'll see another I'll try to, Like in poker, I'll check,

844
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:16,320
I'll see if I can see a free card here

845
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,519
and then and then look to play them later in

846
00:43:19,559 --> 00:43:22,280
the week. As far as the parlay is concerned, we

847
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,679
already talked about my leg as well. I'm gonna use

848
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,360
the Tigers even money. I'm at minus one thirteen on

849
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,000
what the Tigers should be favored here. It's not a

850
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,719
huge edge, but it's it's good enough to close out

851
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,880
the parlay. I think if they do get in a

852
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,280
close game. We both talked about, you know, the starters

853
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920
maybe being like a wash here. I'd much rather have

854
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,199
the Tigers in a close game than the Diamondback. So,

855
00:43:44,559 --> 00:43:46,320
Brian Leonard, I'm gonna go over to you. Can you

856
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,599
tell me what the price the juice was on your

857
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:50,760
team total over.

858
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: I believe it's plus one oh five. And if you

859
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,719
can't get the team totals, I'm fine with Philadelphia. You're

860
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,960
gonna think minus what seventy seven in some books right now,

861
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,840
So if you can't get a team total, I'm fine

862
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,440
with Philadelphia. It's a little bit high in what I

863
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,039
normally use, but I don't want any part of this

864
00:44:12,159 --> 00:44:13,440
watching and pitching staff in this.

865
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: Game and the final point before we close it down.

866
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,039
You know, Jack is like, I don't think Gianni meant

867
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,159
the power ratings don't mean much until twenty twenty five games.

868
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:26,440
And I think what he's saying is, don't don't marry

869
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:30,599
like if you've got him there, you know, I think

870
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:33,159
you're just not changing your If you came and did

871
00:44:33,199 --> 00:44:36,599
all this research coming into the season, you shouldn't be

872
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:41,440
like abandoning it on four days of regular season play.

873
00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:44,000
I think that's probably the more pertinent like point to

874
00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:47,199
make about power inankings. Brian, you're nodding. Is that kind

875
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,880
of what you're interpreting as well?

876
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna if you work with three

877
00:44:51,199 --> 00:44:53,400
months on doing all your work and you're not gonna

878
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,719
throw it away off of one series or whatever. So yeah,

879
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:56,920
that's a great point.

880
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,599
Speaker 3: I never pay attention to power rankings. I only care

881
00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:03,800
about the matchups today. I don't care about power rankings

882
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,800
at all, So I don't pay attention to well, well.

883
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not that you don't care TV, it's

884
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,800
just that you're you're forming yours more in season, So like, yeah,

885
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,519
you know, I think I think what you mean to

886
00:45:15,519 --> 00:45:17,639
say is you don't you're not as as married to

887
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,840
like a projection. You want to go off the data.

888
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,239
That's like in the like that's that's coming in from

889
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,239
the games, which is kind of how I bet minor

890
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,559
league baseball, So I get it, like and I've I'm

891
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:30,159
starting to gravitate more toward that at the big league

892
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:30,800
level anyway.

893
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: So I think I don't care how a team is

894
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,159
in general, I care how they are today.

895
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that that that's

896
00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:42,360
a fair point to make. We've hit the we've hit

897
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,800
the the forty five minute marks. So let's recap the

898
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,199
parlay one more time before we sign off Tokyo. Brandon

899
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,199
is going with Yankees minus one ten. I'm going to

900
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,079
use the Tigers on the full game money line, even money,

901
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,480
and then we've got a team total from Brian Leonard.

902
00:45:57,519 --> 00:45:59,960
He says Philly's team total over five and a hal

903
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:02,320
app that's plus one oh five. If you can't get

904
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,280
the team total in the parlay, I'm with you, Brian.

905
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,840
I think the Phillies money line you're gonna obviously win

906
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,840
a little bit less. It's a favorite, but I think

907
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,840
that might work there as well. And we'll be back

908
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,920
as always nine am Eastern every day here on the

909
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,880
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