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<v Speaker 1>Time for your Channel nine First one and Wether forecast Today.

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<v Speaker 1>Expect some downcours after noontime today, scattered afternoon sortes barry,

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<v Speaker 1>muggy in eighty six with a high overnight low seventy

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<v Speaker 1>with muggy conditions. Tomorrow muggy again eighty six with a

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<v Speaker 1>high with partley potty to mostly sunny skies clear overnight seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>On Friday, we have a sunny day with a high

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety seventy five. Right now, traffic time, Chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>some big news. School is banking session, and as it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out, schools around the country are making the next

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<v Speaker 2>segment required listening in civic classes when the Constitution is

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<v Speaker 2>being discussed. Therefore, our next guest, yes, is the judge

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<v Speaker 2>and professor Chuck Ingram on fifty five krs the talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thirty one, fifty five krs the talk station, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Ingram referring to Judge Napolitano every Wednesday at this

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<v Speaker 1>time on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. We're blessed

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<v Speaker 1>to have him on the show. Welcome back your honor,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian. That was a very flattering introduction by Chuck,

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<v Speaker 3>and I listen to the entire HANF. Fowry. You spent

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<v Speaker 3>with the great Congressman messy, What a mess the Congress is,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my, what personal courage he has, What profound understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of the Constitution he embraces, and what a backbone he has.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that joke about the difference between them and Canada,

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<v Speaker 3>Canada will back down. That's no joke. Thomas Messey doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>back down. He's just a gift, a gift to the

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<v Speaker 3>American public.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, anybody pays attention to what he says comes away

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<v Speaker 1>with a better understanding of the Constitution. It's like listening

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<v Speaker 1>to you, your honor, having an understanding and appreciate the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of the Constitution. It is the highest law of

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<v Speaker 1>the land. So many people, as your column points out,

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<v Speaker 1>just throw it away. I mean they swear to uphold it.

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<v Speaker 1>They take an oath of office swearing to upoll the

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<v Speaker 1>constitutional laws of the land, and then turn around the

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<v Speaker 1>next day and they're already fighting a filing legislation to

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<v Speaker 1>take away your Second Amendment rights and also invading your

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<v Speaker 1>privacy by violating repeatedly and over and over and systemically

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<v Speaker 1>our Fourth Amendment right to be free of unreasonable searches

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<v Speaker 1>and seizures. They don't care about it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I appreciate you raising it to brain, But what

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<v Speaker 3>I really don't get is this happening now under the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration. Because Donald J. Trump himself was personally victimized

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<v Speaker 3>by all this. He knows he's been victimized by it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have spoken to him about it. He has complained

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<v Speaker 3>about it rightly, so in public it's been the subject

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<v Speaker 3>of congressional hearings and litigation and indictments and probably more

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<v Speaker 3>indictments that come. And yet, and yet, pardon me, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>fighting it cut to actually feel better than I sound.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet is his NSA does the same thing that

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<v Speaker 3>George W. Bush has did, Barack Obamas did his did

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<v Speaker 3>in the first term, and Biden's did, which is the

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<v Speaker 3>spy and everybody all the time without warrants, as if

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<v Speaker 3>nothing had happened to the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, one must kind of ask the question, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>could Donald Trump just shut this off? I mean, are

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<v Speaker 1>they beyond the reach? Because this is you and I

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about so many times over the years. The NSA, CIA,

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<v Speaker 1>all these lettered organizations seem to they act with impunity.

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<v Speaker 1>They just seem to think or are beyond the reach

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<v Speaker 1>of either the legislative or executive branch.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the CIA is a rare bird. It's not It's

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<v Speaker 3>clearly in the executive branch. But it doesn't work for

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary of State. It works directly for the president,

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<v Speaker 3>so he could tell them what he wanted them to do.

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<v Speaker 3>The NSA, however, is in the Defense Department. That is

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<v Speaker 3>the department over which he has the most authority. He

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<v Speaker 3>could shut them down with a phone call, or he

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<v Speaker 3>could simply say, you're not going to go to the

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<v Speaker 3>FISA court because that's a charade. The standard for a

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<v Speaker 3>spying is so low and profoundly unconstitutional. You're only going

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<v Speaker 3>to spy when you get a search. Want you want

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<v Speaker 3>a spy, go get the search. Want no search, warrant,

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<v Speaker 3>no spying. He could do that with a phone call

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<v Speaker 3>or with an executive order, but he hasn't, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>very frustrating to me. I mean, it's frustrating to me

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<v Speaker 3>when all of this happens because it's such a profound

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<v Speaker 3>violation of the Fourth Amendment. But it's especially frustrating when

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<v Speaker 3>the president himself was victimized by this bias predecessors.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, to that point, maybe there's a nefarious

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<v Speaker 1>component ab out there. Maybe it's a question of whose

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<v Speaker 1>ox is being gored. His ox was being gord previously,

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<v Speaker 1>they spied on him, they listened to his phone calls,

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<v Speaker 1>they got his eam all that he was a victim

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<v Speaker 1>of it. But now he's commander in chief again, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the info in the goods. Maybe he is getting

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<v Speaker 1>information about his adversaries that benefits him on some level.

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<v Speaker 3>From lou Rockwell loves to quote Saint Augustine that people

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<v Speaker 3>in power suffer from libido dominandi, the lust to dominate.

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<v Speaker 3>The world looks very different from the inside of the

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<v Speaker 3>White House looking out than it did from the outside

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<v Speaker 3>looking in. And when you have that power, you want

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<v Speaker 3>to use it to advance it's your goals and frustrate

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<v Speaker 3>your enemies, even if it is power that you know

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<v Speaker 3>has been used to victimize you, and even if you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's illicit and you're still going to use it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is what apparently is happening. I mean, look at Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>d C. Is the job of the president of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States to stop street crime. No where's that in

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<v Speaker 3>the constitution. He's taken over the police department in Washington.

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<v Speaker 3>I get it. Nobody likes crime, nobody wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>terrified when you walk down the streets. But that's not

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<v Speaker 3>the job of the president. Now he's going to take

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<v Speaker 3>over the Chicago Police Department.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, isn't. He isn't on much shakier legal

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<v Speaker 1>grounds since DC is kind of controlled by.

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<v Speaker 3>Well DC, there's a statute that lets him do this

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<v Speaker 3>for thirty two days. We'll see if he stops doing

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<v Speaker 3>it at the end of the thirty two days. Chicago,

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<v Speaker 3>there's no legal basis for it. So in the DC case,

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue it is legal because Congress is off

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<v Speaker 3>authorize it, but it's unconstitutional because it's not among the

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<v Speaker 3>powers that the Constitution gives to the president. In the

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<v Speaker 3>case of Chicago, there is no legal argument to be made.

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<v Speaker 3>The FEDS have no nothing to do with safety in

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<v Speaker 3>the streets. I think he's just picking on Chicago because

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<v Speaker 3>it's so notoriously democratic and because right now it is

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<v Speaker 3>housing the runaway Texas Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Although this up well there and they're they're coming back.

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<v Speaker 1>By all accounts of report today was that they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to come back home to Texas, and then of course

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<v Speaker 1>the governor will immediately declare another special session and then

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<v Speaker 1>be back right back to square one again. They're ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to deal with the redistricting vote. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how they can avoid it forever, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, maybe it's because of the Chicago housing them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty funny analysis there. Yeah, well, so look the spying.

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<v Speaker 3>Every once in a while, I get on my high

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<v Speaker 3>horse over this. Every once in a while I read

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<v Speaker 3>something that gets totally under my skin. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 3>what I read that caused me to write this, but

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<v Speaker 3>the people that I talk to who are in this business,

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<v Speaker 3>these are x NSSA. People who still have contacts with

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<v Speaker 3>their former colleagues, who are still in the NSSA. Tell

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<v Speaker 3>me it's just as bad as ever. It's the same

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<v Speaker 3>as it was under George W. Bush. Spy on everybody

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. Don't worry about the Fourth Amendment. Let

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<v Speaker 3>the Department of Justice worry about the Fourth Amendment. If

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to use this in any criminal prosecutions. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's everything we say is recorded, everything we type

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<v Speaker 3>on our mobile devices and our desktops as recording are.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't listened to it or receive it in real

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<v Speaker 3>time because they don't have the resources to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's there. If they want to know what you

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<v Speaker 3>and I said to each other two and a half

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, they can get it in a heartbeat.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in artificial intelligence, as fast as that's developing, probably

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<v Speaker 1>makes that very easy to do. I mean you can

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<v Speaker 1>crunch billions and billions and billions of points of data

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<v Speaker 1>in almost a moment's time.

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<v Speaker 3>With Ai right, right, So what George Orwell predicted is here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's far worse than we ever thought. The intelligence community

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<v Speaker 3>has so much knowledge about the Congress. There are statutes here,

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<v Speaker 3>and the statutes have sunset clauses, and whenever the statutes

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<v Speaker 3>are about to sunset, the intelligence community will meet with

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<v Speaker 3>leaders of both houses of Congress. We don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>the hell they say because they swear these leaders a secrecy.

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<v Speaker 3>At the end of the meeting, the leaders say, up,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to extend these statutes. It happens over and

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and over again. So these things just

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<v Speaker 3>to keep getting worse. It will take a it will

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<v Speaker 3>take a revolution, or will take a Ron Poll or

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Massey in the in the White House and the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of people in the Congress thinking that way to

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<v Speaker 3>stop this.

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<v Speaker 1>The frightening reality we're living with just absolutely frightening. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, it's a lot worse than Orwell could have

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<v Speaker 1>ever envisioned. Judge Enna Paulatana, we always end finding out

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<v Speaker 1>what who you're going to be talking to on Judging

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom your podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I have, I have the great Colonel Douglas McGregor,

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<v Speaker 3>who would have been Secretary of defense if run Paul

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<v Speaker 3>had been elected president and it was number three in

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<v Speaker 3>the defense department in Trump's first term, and then Trump

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<v Speaker 3>stopped listening to him. I have Colonel McGregor at eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>I have Max Blumenthal at one. I have Pepe Escobar too.

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<v Speaker 3>Peppi's a great international journalist who has some very interesting

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<v Speaker 3>ideas from the Russian perspective about what Donald Trump should

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<v Speaker 3>expect of President Putin in Alaska on Friday. And Max,

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<v Speaker 3>of course is America's foremost authority on Israel.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, let me just chime in real quick

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<v Speaker 1>on that, because this has been a subject matter that

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about a lot of the Morning Show lately.

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<v Speaker 1>And Putin's position just keeps getting stronger as the day's

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Front the last forty eight hours, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>additional twenty thirty forty kilometers of Ukrainian land. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough soldiers on the front lines in Ukraine. They

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<v Speaker 1>can't find anybody joined the military. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>apparently be giving them any more arms. According to jd Vance,

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<v Speaker 1>European Union's kind of sitting on its hands in a

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<v Speaker 1>state of denial. I mean, every time Putin opens his mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, we're taking territory. You guys cannot get into NATO,

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<v Speaker 1>and his list of demands has never changed. Meanwhile, Ukraine

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<v Speaker 3>I do not know what we can expect. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what cards Trump has to play. The sanctions have

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<v Speaker 3>but it has not hurt them financially. Russia is booming

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<v Speaker 3>because of the new international organization Bricks, Brazil, Russia, India, China,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what cards Trump has to play. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 3>the White House excuse me, Brian, as I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>Managing expectations is what we're talking about there. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't see this going any other way, but Vladimir Putin's

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<v Speaker 1>we'll wait and see together. Judging of Paul Tan will

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<v Speaker 1>be checking out your podcast Judging Freedom Today. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the time you spent my listeners in me every

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<v Speaker 1>week Judge. It's always a real pleasure. I'll look forward to.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure's mine. And thank you for your kind words,

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<v Speaker 3>Congressman Massy's kind words and Ingram's kind words about my

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<v Speaker 3>explanations of the Constitution. That's what I love to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And you give me a great outlet, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful listeners. And to colleagues, and thanks to Strecker for

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<v Speaker 3>letting me know that Massey was going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>with you. I listened for the whole half hour. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you tuning in. I know Congressman Massy does

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<v Speaker 1>as well. God bless you, sir. I hope you're feeling better.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're on the mend. We'll talk next Wednesday, sir,

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