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Speaker 2: some big news. School is banking session, and as it
Speaker 2: turns out, schools around the country are making the next
Speaker 2: segment required listening in civic classes when the Constitution is
Speaker 2: being discussed. Therefore, our next guest, yes, is the judge
Speaker 2: and professor Chuck Ingram on fifty five krs the talk station.
Speaker 1: Hey, thirty one, fifty five krs the talk station, of course,
Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram referring to Judge Napolitano every Wednesday at this
Speaker 1: time on the fifty five KRC Morning Show. We're blessed
Speaker 1: to have him on the show. Welcome back your honor,
Speaker 1: my dear friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian. That was a very flattering introduction by Chuck,
Speaker 3: and I listen to the entire HANF. Fowry. You spent
Speaker 3: with the great Congressman messy, What a mess the Congress is,
Speaker 3: Oh my, what personal courage he has, What profound understanding
Speaker 3: of the Constitution he embraces, and what a backbone he has.
Speaker 3: I mean that joke about the difference between them and Canada,
Speaker 3: Canada will back down. That's no joke. Thomas Messey doesn't
Speaker 3: back down. He's just a gift, a gift to the
Speaker 3: American public.
Speaker 1: Well, anybody pays attention to what he says comes away
Speaker 1: with a better understanding of the Constitution. It's like listening
Speaker 1: to you, your honor, having an understanding and appreciate the
Speaker 1: importance of the Constitution. It is the highest law of
Speaker 1: the land. So many people, as your column points out,
Speaker 1: just throw it away. I mean they swear to uphold it.
Speaker 1: They take an oath of office swearing to upoll the
Speaker 1: constitutional laws of the land, and then turn around the
Speaker 1: next day and they're already fighting a filing legislation to
Speaker 1: take away your Second Amendment rights and also invading your
Speaker 1: privacy by violating repeatedly and over and over and systemically
Speaker 1: our Fourth Amendment right to be free of unreasonable searches
Speaker 1: and seizures. They don't care about it.
Speaker 3: And I appreciate you raising it to brain, But what
Speaker 3: I really don't get is this happening now under the
Speaker 3: Trump administration. Because Donald J. Trump himself was personally victimized
Speaker 3: by all this. He knows he's been victimized by it.
Speaker 3: I have spoken to him about it. He has complained
Speaker 3: about it rightly, so in public it's been the subject
Speaker 3: of congressional hearings and litigation and indictments and probably more
Speaker 3: indictments that come. And yet, and yet, pardon me, I'm
Speaker 3: fighting it cut to actually feel better than I sound.
Speaker 3: And yet is his NSA does the same thing that
Speaker 3: George W. Bush has did, Barack Obamas did his did
Speaker 3: in the first term, and Biden's did, which is the
Speaker 3: spy and everybody all the time without warrants, as if
Speaker 3: nothing had happened to the president.
Speaker 1: Well, one must kind of ask the question, you know,
Speaker 1: could Donald Trump just shut this off? I mean, are
Speaker 1: they beyond the reach? Because this is you and I
Speaker 1: have talked about so many times over the years. The NSA, CIA,
Speaker 1: all these lettered organizations seem to they act with impunity.
Speaker 1: They just seem to think or are beyond the reach
Speaker 1: of either the legislative or executive branch.
Speaker 3: Well, the CIA is a rare bird. It's not It's
Speaker 3: clearly in the executive branch. But it doesn't work for
Speaker 3: the Secretary of State. It works directly for the president,
Speaker 3: so he could tell them what he wanted them to do.
Speaker 3: The NSA, however, is in the Defense Department. That is
Speaker 3: the department over which he has the most authority. He
Speaker 3: could shut them down with a phone call, or he
Speaker 3: could simply say, you're not going to go to the
Speaker 3: FISA court because that's a charade. The standard for a
Speaker 3: spying is so low and profoundly unconstitutional. You're only going
Speaker 3: to spy when you get a search. Want you want
Speaker 3: a spy, go get the search. Want no search, warrant,
Speaker 3: no spying. He could do that with a phone call
Speaker 3: or with an executive order, but he hasn't, and it's
Speaker 3: very frustrating to me. I mean, it's frustrating to me
Speaker 3: when all of this happens because it's such a profound
Speaker 3: violation of the Fourth Amendment. But it's especially frustrating when
Speaker 3: the president himself was victimized by this bias predecessors.
Speaker 1: And you know, to that point, maybe there's a nefarious
Speaker 1: component ab out there. Maybe it's a question of whose
Speaker 1: ox is being gored. His ox was being gord previously,
Speaker 1: they spied on him, they listened to his phone calls,
Speaker 1: they got his eam all that he was a victim
Speaker 1: of it. But now he's commander in chief again, he's
Speaker 1: got the info in the goods. Maybe he is getting
Speaker 1: information about his adversaries that benefits him on some level.
Speaker 3: From lou Rockwell loves to quote Saint Augustine that people
Speaker 3: in power suffer from libido dominandi, the lust to dominate.
Speaker 3: The world looks very different from the inside of the
Speaker 3: White House looking out than it did from the outside
Speaker 3: looking in. And when you have that power, you want
Speaker 3: to use it to advance it's your goals and frustrate
Speaker 3: your enemies, even if it is power that you know
Speaker 3: has been used to victimize you, and even if you
Speaker 3: know it's illicit and you're still going to use it.
Speaker 3: That is what apparently is happening. I mean, look at Washington,
Speaker 3: d C. Is the job of the president of the
Speaker 3: United States to stop street crime. No where's that in
Speaker 3: the constitution. He's taken over the police department in Washington.
Speaker 3: I get it. Nobody likes crime, nobody wants to be
Speaker 3: terrified when you walk down the streets. But that's not
Speaker 3: the job of the president. Now he's going to take
Speaker 3: over the Chicago Police Department.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, isn't. He isn't on much shakier legal
Speaker 1: grounds since DC is kind of controlled by.
Speaker 3: Well DC, there's a statute that lets him do this
Speaker 3: for thirty two days. We'll see if he stops doing
Speaker 3: it at the end of the thirty two days. Chicago,
Speaker 3: there's no legal basis for it. So in the DC case,
Speaker 3: I would argue it is legal because Congress is off
Speaker 3: authorize it, but it's unconstitutional because it's not among the
Speaker 3: powers that the Constitution gives to the president. In the
Speaker 3: case of Chicago, there is no legal argument to be made.
Speaker 3: The FEDS have no nothing to do with safety in
Speaker 3: the streets. I think he's just picking on Chicago because
Speaker 3: it's so notoriously democratic and because right now it is
Speaker 3: housing the runaway Texas Democrats.
Speaker 1: Although this up well there and they're they're coming back.
Speaker 1: By all accounts of report today was that they're going
Speaker 1: to come back home to Texas, and then of course
Speaker 1: the governor will immediately declare another special session and then
Speaker 1: be back right back to square one again. They're ultimately
Speaker 1: going to have to deal with the redistricting vote. I
Speaker 1: don't know how they can avoid it forever, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, maybe it's because of the Chicago housing them.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny analysis there. Yeah, well, so look the spying.
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, I get on my high
Speaker 3: horse over this. Every once in a while I read
Speaker 3: something that gets totally under my skin. I don't remember
Speaker 3: what I read that caused me to write this, but
Speaker 3: the people that I talk to who are in this business,
Speaker 3: these are x NSSA. People who still have contacts with
Speaker 3: their former colleagues, who are still in the NSSA. Tell
Speaker 3: me it's just as bad as ever. It's the same
Speaker 3: as it was under George W. Bush. Spy on everybody
Speaker 3: all the time. Don't worry about the Fourth Amendment. Let
Speaker 3: the Department of Justice worry about the Fourth Amendment. If
Speaker 3: we're going to use this in any criminal prosecutions. Well,
Speaker 3: so it's everything we say is recorded, everything we type
Speaker 3: on our mobile devices and our desktops as recording are.
Speaker 3: They don't listened to it or receive it in real
Speaker 3: time because they don't have the resources to do that,
Speaker 3: but it's there. If they want to know what you
Speaker 3: and I said to each other two and a half
Speaker 3: years ago, they can get it in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1: Well, in artificial intelligence, as fast as that's developing, probably
Speaker 1: makes that very easy to do. I mean you can
Speaker 1: crunch billions and billions and billions of points of data
Speaker 1: in almost a moment's time.
Speaker 3: With Ai right, right, So what George Orwell predicted is here.
Speaker 3: It's far worse than we ever thought. The intelligence community
Speaker 3: has so much knowledge about the Congress. There are statutes here,
Speaker 3: and the statutes have sunset clauses, and whenever the statutes
Speaker 3: are about to sunset, the intelligence community will meet with
Speaker 3: leaders of both houses of Congress. We don't know what
Speaker 3: the hell they say because they swear these leaders a secrecy.
Speaker 3: At the end of the meeting, the leaders say, up,
Speaker 3: we have to extend these statutes. It happens over and
Speaker 3: over and over and over again. So these things just
Speaker 3: to keep getting worse. It will take a it will
Speaker 3: take a revolution, or will take a Ron Poll or
Speaker 3: Thomas Massey in the in the White House and the
Speaker 3: majority of people in the Congress thinking that way to
Speaker 3: stop this.
Speaker 1: The frightening reality we're living with just absolutely frightening. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a lot worse than Orwell could have
Speaker 1: ever envisioned. Judge Enna Paulatana, we always end finding out
Speaker 1: what who you're going to be talking to on Judging
Speaker 1: Freedom your podcast.
Speaker 3: Which I have, I have the great Colonel Douglas McGregor,
Speaker 3: who would have been Secretary of defense if run Paul
Speaker 3: had been elected president and it was number three in
Speaker 3: the defense department in Trump's first term, and then Trump
Speaker 3: stopped listening to him. I have Colonel McGregor at eleven.
Speaker 3: I have Max Blumenthal at one. I have Pepe Escobar too.
Speaker 3: Peppi's a great international journalist who has some very interesting
Speaker 3: ideas from the Russian perspective about what Donald Trump should
Speaker 3: expect of President Putin in Alaska on Friday. And Max,
Speaker 3: of course is America's foremost authority on Israel.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, let me just chime in real quick
Speaker 1: on that, because this has been a subject matter that
Speaker 1: I've talked about a lot of the Morning Show lately.
Speaker 1: And Putin's position just keeps getting stronger as the day's
Speaker 1: roll on. I mean, he's made great advances in the
Speaker 1: Eastern Front the last forty eight hours, you know, getting
Speaker 1: additional twenty thirty forty kilometers of Ukrainian land. They don't
Speaker 1: have enough soldiers on the front lines in Ukraine. They
Speaker 1: can't find anybody joined the military. We're not going to
Speaker 1: apparently be giving them any more arms. According to jd Vance,
Speaker 1: European Union's kind of sitting on its hands in a
Speaker 1: state of denial. I mean, every time Putin opens his mouth,
Speaker 1: he's like, we're taking territory. You guys cannot get into NATO,
Speaker 1: and his list of demands has never changed. Meanwhile, Ukraine
Speaker 1: position keeps getting worse and worse. I mean, what can
Speaker 1: we expect on this Legitimately.
Speaker 3: I do not know what we can expect. I don't
Speaker 3: know what cards Trump has to play. The sanctions have
Speaker 3: irritated the Russians because they would like their American friends
Speaker 3: to be able to fly from jfk At to Moscow,
Speaker 3: but it has not hurt them financially. Russia is booming
Speaker 3: because of the new international organization Bricks, Brazil, Russia, India, China,
Speaker 3: South Africa. That's now ten major economy, economic powerhouses and bricks.
Speaker 3: So I don't know what cards Trump has to play. Yesterday,
Speaker 3: the White House excuse me, Brian, as I said, I
Speaker 3: feel better than I sum Yesterday, the White House downplayed
Speaker 3: expectations for Alaska.
Speaker 1: Managing expectations is what we're talking about there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't see this going any other way, but Vladimir Putin's
Speaker 1: we'll wait and see together. Judging of Paul Tan will
Speaker 1: be checking out your podcast Judging Freedom Today. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the time you spent my listeners in me every
Speaker 1: week Judge. It's always a real pleasure. I'll look forward to.
Speaker 3: My pleasure's mine. And thank you for your kind words,
Speaker 3: Congressman Massy's kind words and Ingram's kind words about my
Speaker 3: explanations of the Constitution. That's what I love to do.
Speaker 3: And you give me a great outlet, and you have
Speaker 3: wonderful listeners. And to colleagues, and thanks to Strecker for
Speaker 3: letting me know that Massey was going to be on
Speaker 3: with you. I listened for the whole half hour. It's
Speaker 3: fascinating and instructive to me.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you tuning in. I know Congressman Massy does
Speaker 1: as well. God bless you, sir. I hope you're feeling better.
Speaker 1: I know you're on the mend. We'll talk next Wednesday, sir,
Speaker 1: have a great week. Eight forty three fifty five KRC,
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