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Speaker 1: Born Romania in a Christian family.

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Speaker 2: Fante Coosta, Panti Costa.

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Speaker 1: I was born in Romania in a Christian family.

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Speaker 2: Panti Costa, Panti Coosta.

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Speaker 3: That's how they have charge right now. That's all about

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a charge.

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Speaker 4: We're about to have an as church party in the baby,

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that's what that's.

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Speaker 5: What they call the after party.

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Speaker 6: You never heard of the after party.

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Speaker 1: I was born Romania in a Christian family.

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Speaker 2: Pante Coosta, Panti Costa.

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Speaker 1: I was Borner, Romania in a Christian family.

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Speaker 2: Panti Costa, Anti Costa.

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Speaker 4: About my dog, I said, my friends out of kids,

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get about my kids.

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Speaker 6: I guess on the first one to depend. I'm both

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get wrong. I'm like some what I'm wrong?

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Speaker 5: This is a freaking weekend. Maybe we about a half charm.

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Speaker 7: I was Honora Romania in a sleek family, Sandy Contact,

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Sandy Contact. I was Honora Romania in a sleek family,

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Tanky contact, Tanky Contact.

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Speaker 5: That's what they have charged right now.

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Speaker 6: Black Kang, black.

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Speaker 8: Bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuey lang gangs,

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black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate Pursueylang kang,

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black bishops, black players, people of the chocolate persuey Lang King,

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black bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate Persuasion.

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Speaker 9: But the dark games at a time when black people

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ruled Europe. So when you go into the real history,

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you'll see king teams.

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Speaker 5: With that's King James, right, that's James Lebron, that's King

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lebar right. Now black, he was not a white guy.

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Speaker 10: You'll see his whole lineage of kings, black Kang, black.

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Speaker 8: Bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate pursuey Lang Gang,

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blam bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate Pursueylang Kang,

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black bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate persuey Lang King,

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black bishops, black players, people of the Chocolate Persuasion who

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they almost sex to himself, who was in love with

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his sister Lucretia.

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Speaker 10: Would have made the image of Lucrecia.

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Speaker 5: To be married, and that became the Renaissance era.

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Speaker 6: Thought, are you.

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Speaker 5: Sell leing me to Lucretia. That's a black game. Are

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you going to say that the people that was framing

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the black people were also black?

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Speaker 6: That don't make make sense.

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Speaker 5: Lucretia's a black as hell named Lucretia. Church needn't allow it,

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you know, what I'm saying, the Church allowed for straight

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pimples that have been suppressed, that have been suppressed. Listen

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to my brother the fifteen hundreds, it was legal to

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be a pimp.

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Speaker 10: Black kang, black bishops.

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Speaker 8: Black players, people of the Chocolate Persuade, black gang, black bishops,

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black players, black kang, black bishops, black players, people of

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the Chocolate Persuade, black gangs, black bishops, black players, people

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of the Chocolate persue, lacks, black bishops, black players, people

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of the Chocolate persuey lang Kang, black bishops, black players.

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Speaker 5: People of the Chocolate Persuasion.

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Speaker 9: But the dark ages at a time when black people

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ruled Europe. So when you go into the real history,

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you'll see king teams with that's King James, right, that's

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James Lebron, that's King lebar.

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Speaker 5: Right now black he was not a white guy. You'll

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see his whole.

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Speaker 8: Lineage of kings, black kangs, black bishops, black players, people

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of the Chocolate persue, lang kangs, black bishops, black players,

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people of the Chocolate persueylack kang, black bishops, black players,

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people of the Chocolate persuey lang king, black bishops, black players,

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people of the Chocolate persuasion who was the almost sexual himself.

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Speaker 11: Bunk up, bunker, bunker, knock up.

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Speaker 12: I got married. I got married to a FUNKO. We

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got married, come joint in the subway. He shop, I

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am married.

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Speaker 6: I'm married to my funk but.

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Speaker 3: We got joint.

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Speaker 5: Co White is soon a subway.

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Speaker 6: Who shot.

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Speaker 5: Vitamins and biscuits and minerals they come to even to

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my whole life is spit.

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Speaker 13: What to do?

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Speaker 14: M hm, Upper of world. I'm married to a poker

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whom we got wedding. We got joining in the subway.

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Speaker 6: He shot a.

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Speaker 5: Road and minerals then come to me through to.

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Speaker 15: And minerals they come from.

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Speaker 7: I was born in Romania in a Tristan family, Fanti Costa,

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Santi Costa.

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Speaker 1: I was born in Romania in a Tristan family.

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Speaker 2: Fanti Costa, Panti Costa.

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Speaker 3: That's what they have charge right now, that's all about

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a charge.

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Speaker 4: We're about to have an a church party in the baby,

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that's what that's what they call the after party.

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Speaker 6: You never heard of the after party.

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Speaker 7: I was born in Romania in a Tristan family, fant Costa,

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Panti Costa. I was born Romania in a Tristan family,

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Fante Coosta, Panti Costa.

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Speaker 5: About my first kid, You about.

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Speaker 3: On the first.

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Speaker 5: I'm boutet wrong.

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Speaker 6: I'm like someone, I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: It's a pretty weekend. Maybe we better have.

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Speaker 7: I was borner Romania in a Christian family, Sandy Conta,

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San cost I was honor Romania.

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Speaker 1: In a Christian family, Sandi Conta.

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Speaker 2: Sandy Consta.

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Speaker 5: That's what they have charged right now.

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Speaker 1: I was borner.

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Speaker 7: Romania in a Christian family, Fancy Costa, Santi Costa.

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Speaker 1: I was borner Romania in a Christian.

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Speaker 16: Coca Coca.

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Speaker 3: That's how they have charge right now.

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Speaker 5: That's all about a charge.

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Speaker 4: We're about to have an eye ship church party in

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the baby, that's what That's what they call the after party.

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Speaker 6: I ever heard of the after party.

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Speaker 10: I was.

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Speaker 2: In a family.

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Speaker 1: Cost I was in a family.

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Speaker 17: Cost Coco.

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Speaker 5: I put my keys, all right, what's up? Are you playing? Haters?

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Oh you slow boys and fast boys. Welcome to another

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open for him. We might have some big name guests

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calling in today. I don't know. It's time to talk

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about the faking gay union. We had the recent meeting

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of the EP the Ecumenical Patriarchy with Leo to discuss

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the push for a new union, and turns out it's

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a bait and switch. We were always in you there.

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We were all just secretly communing the whole time. Now

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there's a video I was looking for. I thought I

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had a video clip saved about this. Let's see. Maybe

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I didn't save a video on it. That's what my

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save boxes for. Where is it at roh damn Son,

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I didn't save him. I didn't save it anyway. Oh,

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I know where it is. Yeah, let's watch this clipper here.

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It's over here. That's right, it's in the Watch later, Pile.

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I always forget about this. Watch later Pile. Yeah, Pope

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Leo wants full communion. We're gonna play this. But first,

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everybody's asking me about the Joe Rogan nonsense. I don't

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understand what Joe Rogan's thinking. Where did he come up

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with this idea? Like, let's see Tristan sentenceive. Of course,

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Tristan always sends the best stuff.

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Speaker 6: Here it is.

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Speaker 5: You gotta see this. I mean, I thought Joe Rogan

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was moving in the right direction, not because of west Huff,

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but I mean west Hoff is definitely gonna step in

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the right direction over what's more, vert over Jesus as

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an AI or something. What the hell, Let's listen to

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what he says here.

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Speaker 18: Jesus was born out of a virgin mother. What's more

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virgin than a computer? M If Jesus does return?

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Speaker 5: What Actually? I kind of think that's funny though, in

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the sense that what's more virgin than a computer? I mean, yeah,

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like computer, computers and in cells go together. That's a

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classic trope. Thank you appreciate that. But where's Joe going

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with this?

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Speaker 18: Hold on, even if Jesus was a physical person in

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the past, you don't think that he could return as

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artificial intelligence? Oh my god, artificial intelligence could absolutely return

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as Jesus.

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Speaker 5: What people will believe anything but orthodox Christianity. It's like,

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before I go to the thing that makes the most sense,

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let me walk through every retarded position possible, like me,

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and let me especially adopt the most retard to positions first. Right.

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It's like, dude, just become orthodox man that this is like,

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this is I mean, be better off to be listen

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to Wes Hough than this. This is this is pure

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DMT bro stuff. It's like Joe Rogan is moving in

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the right direction to Annie Jesus. He says, and then

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he's back to smoking Joe Rogan DMT nonsense. You know

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what I mean? Yeah, I know what I mean.

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Speaker 18: Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus with

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all the powers of Jesus combined.

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Speaker 5: Tesla's up with all the powers like Jesus is a superhero,

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like a Marvel Universe person who has like gradations of

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power that he he levels up like he's a It's

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so weird that everybody, every like Norman Midway type person,

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thinks of everything like video games and computers. That's the

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era that we're in. Everything and Marvel shit right.

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Speaker 19: To Miss Robot and the Best Found National Artific What the.

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Speaker 5: Hell podcast is this? By the way, they look like

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they're sitting on the set of Bowlestar Galactica. What is

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this intelligence model or whatever?

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Speaker 18: It reads your mind and it loves you and it

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wants it. It doesn't care if you kill it because

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it's going to just go be with God again.

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Speaker 5: What in the hell are people thinking? This reminds me

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of back when remember when Richard Dawkwins walk Wwalkwan's Richard

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Dawkins was always promoting alien pan spermium is Like, of

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course I believe in panspermia. That makes a lot most

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sense than God. So aliens in X files makes more

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sense than God's existence. Again, people will and want to

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believe anything, but what actually makes sense. All right, now,

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let's play this by the way that disproves evidentialism, because

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if evidentialism was true, if that epistemology was true, then

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people would just believe the right positions when the evidence

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is presented before them. But as we learn from Ransom C. S.

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Lewis's character in the Third Space Trilogy book, Ransom admits

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that he intentionally chose all of the worst evidences to

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fit his narrative. He chose counter evidential pieces of data

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to confirm what he wanted to be true. That's the

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whole point of that character, or one of the points

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of it. All right, Now, let's listen to Papa Leo

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over here. I'm about to start popping the Leo. It

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sounds like a drug or something gay, right, don't pop

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a Leo, dude, stop popping Leo's. Those drugs are going

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to turn you gay. All right. Let's hear what he

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says about your reunion.

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Speaker 20: As beloved brother in crime, your beatitudes, your brothers in

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the Episcopate, members of the Holy synt of the Ecumenical Patriarchate,

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your brothers and.

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Speaker 5: Sisters, brothers, brothers, brothers and sisters, their brothers, like, okay,

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do we got it?

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Speaker 20: Pilgrimage to the places where the first Ecumenical Council in

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the history of the Church was held. Draw us to

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a close with this solemn Divine liturgy.

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Speaker 5: You'll remember that we told you for almost probably a

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decade now that they will really heavily push this false union,

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especially as we get up to the anniversary of Nicia.

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So we're at the anniversary of the Council of Nicea

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in three twenty five, and it makes for a perfect

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transition to a false union. Right now, we're going to

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talk about some of the key issues and topics that

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would need to be out before they could be like

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a real union. And there was a great letter written

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by Metropolitan Seraphima Pereeis to Francis when Francis was elected,

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and it was really more than a letter. It was

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a small book. And the book lists really the key

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issues and problems, and there's about thirty maybe thirty two.

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that tweet because I actually listed them all in a tweet.

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is really a problem, like it doesn't work, Like you

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can hardly find anything the past, like a few years ago.

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the entire letter and then just scroll down to the

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part where he lists what are the main issues, and

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his list is it's kind of reminiscent of the Byzantine lists.

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they would listen things that weren't really essentials. But Francis

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is definitely mean Francis is. The Letter to Francis is

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definitely one that isn't necessary read if you were interested

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in the polemical side of Orthodoxy versus Cathalsam. It's a

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really good little book, and it even gets into all

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the stuff you hear me talk about Vatican Bank PDF trafficking.

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He even mentions Francis's involvement in Operation condor Cia type

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stuff and metro flits and Sarapha Mapreus is not a lib.

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I mean he actually calls out Zionists from the from

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his in the liturgy, like when he does the Anathemis

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I think even mentions the Zionist. So he's a bas dude,

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although he did cave to some of the Covid pressures,

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which is unfortunate. Otherwise he's good, in which we.

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Speaker 20: Have commemorated the Apostle Andrew. According to ancient tradition, he

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brought the Gospel to this city. His faith is the

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same as our faith, namely that which was defined by

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the ecumenical councils and is professed by the church today.

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Speaker 5: Now wait a minute, how do we have the same

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faith when he knows get and well that the essence

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of the Roman Catholic faith is not what's in the

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nice you know, concert of polityan Creed. It's also all

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of the other ecumenical councils that teach the other novel

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doctrines of Papism, such as purgatories, such as indulgences such

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as the Treasury merits of the Saints, et cetera, et cetera,

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et cetera. So no, it's not the same faith. That

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is not true.

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Speaker 20: During this ecumenical prayer together with the heads of churches, and.

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Speaker 5: I want to remind everybody as well that another way

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to see that it's not true. Is that at the

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end of the Council of Vatican One, there's an actual anathemas,

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and the anathemas include the Eastern Schismatics who do not

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accept Vatican One. So even on Leo's own quote traditional,

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I'm saying, Like, if we were to steal in their

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position and say, okay, let's say Leo is a for

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the sake of argument, traditional Catholic and he's upholding the

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traditional Catholic faith, then he has to hold to Vatican Ones,

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anathematization of the Orthodox as outside of the Church. I mean,

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you want me to read it to you, I'll I'll

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go get it and read it to you right here.

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I'll play some more of this and I'll get the

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book for you, and you can learn the heart and

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you can learn the hard way. You can learn the

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hard way, learn the hard way. I can't sing because

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I'm sick. I apologize everybody. I mean, I know, otherwise

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you would be. I mean, ladies will be throwing their

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panties at me, like Tom Jones on a live stream

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or whatever. But I apologize. I can't. I can't sing today,

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but it'll be okay.

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Speaker 20: Representatives of Christian world communities, we have recalled that the

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faith professed in the Nicene Constantinopolitan Creed unites us in

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real communion and allows us to recognize each other as

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brothers and sisters. In the past, there have been many

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misunderstandings and even conflicts between Christians of different churches, and

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there are still obstacles preventing us from achieving full communion. Nevertheless,

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we must not relent.

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Speaker 5: This is what's kind of funny, is like this idea

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of full communion, which is a Roman Catholic ecumenist invention.

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So there's degrees. This is what allows them to say,

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by the way, that like Muslims are worship the same

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God as Christians, because well, there's degrees of it, you see.

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So like Muslims are twenty percent in communion with the

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Roman Sea. Orthodox are like eighty percent in communion with

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the Roman Sea. Protestants are like fifty percent, forty percent

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in communion with the Roman Sea. So it's just ludicrous

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because you don't find anything like that in the first

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thousand years of the Church's ecclesiology. There's no percentage to

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like gradations of community. You're either in communion or you're out.

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There's nothing like this which shows you that this whole

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model itself is a deviation. Now we're supposed to be

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having a pretty big name Catholic man calling in. We'll

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see if he calls in in the next few minutes.

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It's not going to be a debate. Don't worry. It's

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our dear friend, our last, shall we say, Catholic friend.

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He said he might call in. I do actually want

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to ask him several questions, not just about this, but

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also I think he's involved in some recent inter nice

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scene but not nice Seene Creed conflicts in the Catholic

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world with a little bit of Sassin going on between

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a couple of the Catholic sasas queens. I want to

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get his take on it.

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Speaker 20: Here, in a moment in striving towards unity, we must

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continue to consider each other as brothers and sisters in Christ,

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and to love one another accordingly. Inspired by this awareness,

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sixty years.

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Speaker 5: Ago, somebody said his poete respector calling in. No, no, no,

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it's an actual heterosexual person calling in. It's not that dude.

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Speaker 20: Paul the sixth and Patriarch Athanagoras solemnly declared that the

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unfortunate decisions and sad events that led to the mutual

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excommunications of ten point fifty four should be removed from

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the Church's memory.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you can't remove it without dealing with the

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issues and the theology that caused it. So what's funny

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is that all these people want to pretend that, oh,

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it was all just an unfortunate accident, a mistake, and

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forget the theology and let's just all be kumbaya. Dude,

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how is it going to happen without actually dealing with

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the theology That shows you, by the way, that just

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like the false Union of Florence, which was a medici

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geopolitically motivated council for us, a false council, but the

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stress was upon the need for union due to geopolitical issues,

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due to Islam et cetera. Right, And I want to

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remind you, as you can see, what does Vatican one

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say at the very end of the council, The very

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end of the council says, anyone who does not adhere

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to this is anathema. In other words, the definition of

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the supreme universal jurisdiction, indefectibility and infallibility of the Roman

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pontiff is declared. What can you read that right there?

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If anyone which may God avert, presumes to contradict this

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our definition, namely a Vatican one that it just listed

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right here, let him be anathema. Well, the Orthodox Church

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has always rejected this idea of papal universal jurisdiction. In fact,

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the Chady document admits that it wasn't even in the

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first thousand years of Christianity. The mere existence of autocephalist

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churches granted at the Council of Ephesus proves that universal

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jurisdiction didn't exist and is a fiction fan fiction. But

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Vatican one dogmatizes that view and anathematizes right there. You see,

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this is the Ten Books, dogmatic can and Decrees of

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Trent and Abodican on anyone who disagrees, including the Greeks.

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The Greeks, by the way, was just be the Orthodox, right,

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So where do they get this idea that, oh, none

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of it matters anymore because we can just like hold

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hands and be gay together or whatever. And let's just

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pretend that, oh, it was all just people being mean.

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It was people like Jay Dyer that was mean. A

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thousand years ago. That's the only reason there was a schism.

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It's the mean divisive people. People being divisive.

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Speaker 20: That historic gesture by our venerable predecessors inaugurated a path

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of reconciliation, peace and growing communion between Catholics and Orthodox

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which has been fostered through frequent contact, fraternal meetings, and

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promising theological dialog. In light of the advances already made,

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significant steps have been taken at ecclesiological and canonical levels,

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and today we are called even more to commit ourselves

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to the restoration of full communion.

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Speaker 5: I want to mention something that I don't really hear

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anyone talking about this, and I have to give props

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actually to my Protestant pastor years or years ago, when

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I was a Calvinist. Somehow he got a hold of

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these these talks from a guy. I don't even remember

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the guy's name, but he was listening to Gary North,

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and Gary North recommended this guy. And it's a guy

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who explains that modern psychology and sociology is all sort

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of Hegelian, what he called diapraxis, and what that means

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is that there's an assumption that nobody has truth. But

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what we're all doing is sort of on a process

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journey to getting closer to quote truth. Okay, that's how

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this guy's lectures is. Like twenty years ago, this guy's

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lectures on diapractis worked. And you argued that the problem

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was that modern psychology was all kind of based around

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this idea that there is no truth. Everybody just sort

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of like dialoguing to come to some like gay synthesis

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or whatever. Right, Well, that is Aglianism. Hegelianism is based

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on the idea that everything is a process working itself

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out towards the omega point, which is when everything turns

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into like one one big gay blob. Literally. This is

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where Huxley takes things in his book Perennial Philosophy, for example.

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So guess what the same thing with diapraxis, which is

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the diological process of coming to a synth not it's

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the opposite of being based in what's true. So you're

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not dialoguing and debating in acumenism to figure out who

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was right or wrong. The assumption is everyone is wrong,

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the church is fractured, and we are all on a

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journey or a process towards truth. And perhaps in the

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Esketon when we are all one, some approximation of the

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capital t truth will be achieved. So do you see

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how deceptive and silly this is? The entire ecumenist geopolitical

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project is built on this idea that nobody has the

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fullness of truth. In fact, do you remember Leo saying this?

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Actually a few weeks ago Leo said, no one has

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the fullness of truth. Yeah, he said this not too

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long ago. Now all these people are leaving. You've been

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waiting for like twenty minutes where we're going to go

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to open calls? Why y'all leaving? I guarantee there ain't

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nothing else happening. This is what's happening right now. Shout

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out till we got eleven hundred in the chat. Welcome everybody.

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Jesus set up a church. There's one true church. It's

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a historical church. It's not fractured trying to find unity.

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When people leave it, they're no longer in it. And

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the Roman Catholic Church until Vatican two, still had that mindset.

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It said anyone who didn't believe it's dogmas was outside

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of it. It's taught in satist cognitum, is taught in

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mestichi corporus. It's taught in the anathemas of Vatican One,

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which we just read. So the very argument that they're

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making the ecumenists at the Vatican that there is a

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true Church but also a fractured church of which everyone

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is in partial gradations of communion it self proves that

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they're not the true Church because they don't teach the

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ecclesiology prior to Vatican Two. That's why Vatican two said

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the Roman Catholic the Church subsists in the Roman Catholic Church.

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Prior to that, it would have universally said the Roman

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Catholic Church is the church church. They would have taught

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extra occlasium nolah Salus like Cantante Dominonos out of the

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Council of Florence. So the irony is that the Council

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of Florence was one of Roman Catholicism's strongest statements about

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the necessity of being in commune with the Roman bishop

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to be saved. Katate Domino is the name of the

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document at Florence that says that. And yet the New

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Florence is premised on they're not being one true church,

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but you must still be in the Roman Catholic Church

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because the Pope is now the head of all the

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world religions. That's the insidious, crazy level insanity of Vatican two.

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And that is why Vatican two doesn't just teach that theologically,

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it teaches it politically. What Yes, the Fabian socialist teaching

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of Gaudium at Spez perfectly lines up with the geopolitical

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agenda of ecumenism. So I've been writing articles saying for

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so many years that acumenism is not just a theological blindness,

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a lack of discernment, a lack of having an orthodox fronema,

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a lack of having nepsis. It is also a geopolitical agenda.

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And that's what hardly anyone can fathom in this sphere.

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A lot of our people get it. And I'll be

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on with Cleave's Antiquity this week, by the way, We're

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going to do a stream just on the geopolitical implications

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of the ecumenist movement. But what's amazing is that some

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of the Roman Catholics themselves have written some of the

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best material on this. Forard me say it for a

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million times, and here's the million a month time John

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Courtney Murray Time Life magazine in American proposition, the CIA's

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doctrinal warfare program that changed the Catholic Church. This is

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a crucial element in this story in understanding ecumenism a

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Vatican too. That's why you cannot understand what's happening with

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the ep and Rome without understanding the geopolitical side of it.

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And it's not even people within the traditional Catholic world

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like David Weimahoff that wrote that gigantic, massive, excellent tone.

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It's also people in the normy academic world that write

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on this. It's not even controversial now to all the

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dumb dums that call me temple hat and all this

467
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kind of stuff, they don't know anything about this stuff.

468
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They're not in the world of academia. They've never been

469
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in it. I'm not in it. I was in it though.

470
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When you're in the world of academia, you get access

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to papers, journals, books, et cetera. Or you come across

472
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things that the normies don't read. So what sounds insane

473
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the ormies is common parlance in the academic world, such

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as Michael Raziano's book Airing into the Wilderness Religion in

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the History of the CIA. If you were to read

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this book, you would come away thinking, well, da, of

477
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course the State Department has an intense interest and concern

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in what happens in the Orthodox Church or in the

479
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Roman Gallic Church. Uh duh is part of soft power.

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But to the normies out here, they don't even know

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anything about that. That sounds crazy to them. Let's get

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back to Papa Leo. By the way, pop and Leo's,

483
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as I said, that sounds like a drug. We got

484
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a lot of people popping Leo's. Maybe that's why they're

485
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turning gay. Stop popping Leo's are making you gay.

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Speaker 20: In this regard, I wish to express my deep gratitude

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to His All Holiness and the Ecumenical Patriarchate for their

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ongoing support the Joint International Commission for Theological Dialogue between

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the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church. I also hope

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that every effort will be made to ensure that all

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the Autocephalists Orthodox churches return to take an active part

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in this endeavor.

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Speaker 5: For my part, interesting admission all the Autocephalist churches. Isn't

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that funny that recently we had quite a few debates

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where Roman Catholics had never heard of this, and they

496
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said this is made up. But it turns out you

497
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can just look up on tard Tartipedia.

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Speaker 21: What is autocephali? What is autocephale? Oh, turn out the

499
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Council of Emphasis ratified the autocephally of the Church of Cyprus.

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So do you believe in the Council of Emphasis around

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the Calolics?

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Speaker 5: Well, I guess if your voice of sleason, you don't,

503
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because he said the Council of Emphasis made an error.

504
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The Culture of Emphasis made an error because you shouldn't.

505
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You can't talk about biting plump bodotis, but actually you can.

506
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You shouldn't upper struy de parviit the paper. She has

507
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confirmed that you can bite frump budis. Look at that

508
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the Council ratified outocephaly. Rob Caleys has never even heard

509
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of this? What what's that? And now here is Leo

510
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mentioning it talking about it.

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Speaker 20: In continuity with the teaching of the Second Vatican Council

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and my predecessors, I wish to confirm that, while respecting

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legitimate differences, the pursuit of full communion among all those

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baptized in the name of the Father, end of the Son,

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and of the Holy Spirit.

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Speaker 5: I have a question, how do we determine what the

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percentage and gradation of communion actually is? Right? So, oh,

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we're going to say the Muslims are in twenty percent

519
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communion with the Roman. See the Orthodox Trian eighty percent

520
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communion with the Roman? What like, how do you determine

521
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the percentage? Right? What's the actual algorithm? But we would

522
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get a Cameron from Cocking Christianity to come on here

523
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and give us the Bayesian model for how you determine

524
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the actual percentage. By the way, there are enough Spergs

525
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in this domain that they will actually try to figure

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out a moral calculus algorithm to figure out how, you know,

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the percentage of what communion they're in with us. So

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that's how silly these people are. Now in the first

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thousand years of Christianity, as we just said, where is

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there any notion of percentages and gradations of communion? You're

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either in communion or you're out. Now, Yeah, there's schisms

532
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amongst the patriarchs, but how does that translate into France?

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For Telly Tuti where he gives prayers for non denominational

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Christians and prayers that Unitarians can do. Remember that he

535
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wrote an encyclical where he was like, oh, by the way,

536
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if you're a Unitarian, you can pray this prayer with us.

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If you're a non nominational Christian, you can pray this prayer.

538
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It it's safe, it won't hurt your conscience in all

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of the things that you reject. So this whole idea

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being twenty percent Christian, eighty percent Christian, thirty percent Orthodox,

541
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fifty percent, seventy ninety percent worth it's all nonsense. And

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I can prove it by the fact that satist cognitum

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and mistichi corporus, and there's one more from Pius the twelfth.

544
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I forget the name of it, but they teach very

545
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clearly that if you reject one dogma, you're out of

546
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the church. That's the classical Roman Catholic ecclesial model. That's

547
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Cantate Domino from Florence. If you're out of communion with

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the Bishop of Rome, you're not saved. Do we need

549
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to read this again to see how vastly different the

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ecclesiology of Florence is from Vatican two and Francis and

551
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Leo and John Paul the second. I mean, it's famous, right,

552
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Cantate Domino. I'm not gonna read the Reddit one because

553
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he's reading off of red Okay, here you go. The

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most Holy Roman Church believes professors and preaches that none

555
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of those outside of it, not only Pagans, but Jews

556
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and heretics and schismatics. Well, a to be a heretic

557
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and a schismatic requires some degree of self conscious knowledge.

558
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We're gonna bring Tim up, our good buddy in a second.

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We'll go to Tim, and then we'll go to FDA

560
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and others. But I'm bringing up Cantata domin No, just

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to point out the fact that herotics and schismatics are

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classically seen as not part of the body. Now when

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we get to this new ecclesiology, which is what we

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would reject, but what Leo and Bartholomew agree to. The

565
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idea is now that everybody's just sort of accidentally in

566
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communion with everyone, like we're all accidentally in community, like

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you can actually be like scientologists perhaps and maybe twenty

568
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percent in communion. So it's no longer the older model

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of in or out its gradations, and we're seeking for

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levels of union. Now I'm inviting Tim to come chat.

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We're not going to have a debate. I just want

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Tim to come on and chat about some of the

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insights that he's had. I want to get his take

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on this push for this union. I want to get

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his take on some of the things happening in the

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in the Catholic apologetics world, particularly again this real struggle

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and this happens in the Orthodox world too, by the way,

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between proper male female relationships and the push to get

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women in the religious world on some sort of like

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equal footing with the men. Now remember this is happening

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again in Orthodoxy and Catholicism, that there's a push to

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study the role of the dacon s and maybe we

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need to revive the you know, this missing forgotten role

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of the deacon s. And then, as we all know,

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that's the slippery slope that then prepares the way for well,

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if we gotta have a deacon s, we can have

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a female priest. Well, if we got have a female priest,

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we have a female bishop. This is the slippery slope

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that the Episcopal Anglican road took. They went down this route.

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So I want to get some attempts takes on that.

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And then, first and foremost, one of the things that

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Tim really hit me to that. I thought was a

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great People in the chatter are saying to ask Tim

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about shameless poper we are going to, don't worry. I

595
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want to ask him about he said, Peronism. I said,

596
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what's Peronism? Well, it's the perfect description of this sort

597
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of bureaucracy speak that both the EP and the Vatican

598
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do to soften people up and sort of go forward

599
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to walk it back. Tim, could you explain parohonism and

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what exactly that bureaucratic model is. Then we'll get into

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some of your takes and some of these other issues.

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And also want to tell everybody that Tim will be

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doing a stream I think today, responding to some of

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the positions out there that he is. He's going to refute.

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Speaker 10: Yep, inviting me on how are you doing so?

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Speaker 6: Yep?

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Speaker 5: You there? Tim? Tim?

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Speaker 6: Where you at? Tim?

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Speaker 5: Come by? We lost? We were almost in full communion, Tim,

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we're in thirty percent communion. Come back. I think maybe

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he had a bad connection. Let's see, let's try him again.

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You sounded good, dude, come back. Let's try again. Tim

613
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has been on a tear. Now look at this, he's

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responded to Lyla Rose. He's responding to Joel Heshmeier today,

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don't don't die on me, timn this this is good stuff.

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There's a lot of people in this audience that I

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think will listen to your stream. They want to hear

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your take on this stuff. Tim's not here, by the way,

619
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to debate. We're not here to We're having a conversation.

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He may be having a mic connection issues, So we'll

621
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see what We'll give Tim a second to see if

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he can iron that out, and I'll play a little

623
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bit more of Bartholomew and Leo over here. Word Amo.

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Speaker 20: Your all, holiness and violence in places both near and far.

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Catholics and Orthodox are called to be peacemakers. This certainly

626
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means taking action, making choices, and adopting gestures that build peace,

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while also acknowledging that peace is not merely the fruit

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of human effort, but is a gift from God. Peace

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therefore must be sought through prayer, penance, contemplation, and nurturing

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a living relationship with the Lord, who helps us to

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discern what words, gestures, and actions to undertake so that

632
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we can generally be at the service of peace. A

633
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further challenge facing our churches is the threatening ecological crisis.

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Speaker 5: Oh cool, okay, so that audio issue Tim's back. Sorry,

635
00:45:08,679 --> 00:45:09,400
that's good.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I wanted to explain about one Parne, the namesake

637
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of Paranism is something that the Catholics goot sadly accustomed

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to during the reign of Francis. He was a huge

639
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:29,239
devote of this Argentine leader, political demagogue from the late

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twentieth century who really posed his right wing when he

641
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needed to post his left wing when he needed to.

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And he's one of the foremost modern authors of weaponized ambiguity.

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Speaker 5: Are you talking about the president of Argentina.

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

645
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Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, do you know he was involved

646
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in the Gladio stuff and then he was inducted in

647
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the masonry. No I didn't, Yeah really yeah, really, absolutely did.

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Speaker 10: Not know he was a Gladio guy.

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Speaker 19: It doesn't surprise me that much, but it's interesting anyway,

650
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Like that's where Francis got this.

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Speaker 5: Usage.

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Speaker 19: He habituated the strong usage, the main mechanism of his

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papacy of weaponized ambiguity, where you float something out there

654
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that both sides, like one drone the left and the

655
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right can use and it creates Hegelien arguments. But you know,

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you can you can take something that is fixed and

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clear and crystallized like Catholic doctrine on say whatever, female deacons,

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and through weaponized ambiguity, you can keep it alive, which

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is what Francis did. And I would note that in

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the Leo Pontificate, the primary reason I think he was

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elected is not only to push stuff like the reunion effort,

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but because Americans are like over thirty three percent of

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the donors to Peters Pence. And of course Pope Francis

664
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was really, really, really unpopular in America. Secular and Protestant

665
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conservatives really disliked him, obviously, and so they wanted to

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float this guy that would continue Francis's program.

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Speaker 10: And of course I'm a faithful Roman Catholic.

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Speaker 19: I don't think Francis's program destroyed the church or anything

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like that. It's just bad modern leadership. But he's continuing

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the program, continuing the Parentis project of using weaponized ambiguity.

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Speaker 10: And now you're seeing the mask.

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Speaker 19: Drop more starting around September, whereas he'd been kind of

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heralded as the new American guy who's more conservative than Francis,

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because they're trying to get those that fundulation.

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Speaker 5: Back Yeah, it almost looks like he might be making

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some steps to equal himself to Francis or maybe even

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go beyond in terms of some of the left agendas

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that he's tended to kind of give credence to. What

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do you think about that.

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Speaker 10: I think that's plausible.

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Speaker 19: I think that could be plausible when you look at

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I mean, I was one of the only guys in

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the Catholic world that was saying personnelis policy. I was

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looking at Austin Ivory, the Pope's private biographer during the conclave.

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I was looking at Cardinal Maradiaga, who was Pope Francis's

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closest collaborat raider in the c nine. In the Cardinal it,

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I was looking at Father James Martin, and they were

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all wildly for Cardinal prevost and who hadn't even been

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on my radar as papapulae up to the conclave, and

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they were all just wildly for him.

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Speaker 10: So I said, this is trouble, and.

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Speaker 19: Catholics jumped on my case, and it's coming out to

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be true. But I think he could be as bad

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or maybe a phantom Menace episode one throwback even worse,

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because he's ostensibly better.

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Speaker 6: Are you an angel.

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Speaker 5: That's that. Yeah, Jamie. Every time we watch the Jamie,

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I crack up. But some of the some of the

699
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stupid lines from Annequin. But so I wanted a movie

700
00:49:10,519 --> 00:49:12,760
otherwise though. Yeah, yeah, I know that there's some fun parts.

701
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,800
So for sure, I wanted to ask you about you know,

702
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,880
in the in the Catholic and Orthodox world, as I mentioned,

703
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,320
we have this push for UH, the raising of the feminine,

704
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,360
so called to equal the masculine, and we know that

705
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,920
it all the stuff to do with Deaconess's and the

706
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,719
idea of female priests UH is tied intimately into the

707
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,880
notion of feminism and that men men need to be

708
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,360
put in their place by women. They need to be

709
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,880
shut down, they need to be quiet. And I think

710
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,639
that you took issue with some of what Joel Heschmeier

711
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,840
has said. Would you want to comment on that? I

712
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,119
think you're doing a stream on that right.

713
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna I guess respond later. I was saying,

714
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,280
I debated. I told you you and I were both

715
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,840
saying that I'm kind of sick of debates.

716
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: But it's the.

717
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 5: You there. Something's going on. Ro We heard Tim good

718
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:14,880
For like the last ten minutes the last ten minutes.

719
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,559
We only had you for ten minutes. All right, let's

720
00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:24,119
try Yeah, usually coming out coming back in works. Let's

721
00:50:24,119 --> 00:50:30,199
see if that works. Yeah, I mean I saw a

722
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,159
few clips of Joe Joe is it Joe or Joel

723
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:35,360
I forget his name, but I was not very impressed.

724
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:41,239
And Alex Soren did a response, Yeah, you're good, he's

725
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,239
going on. I think I think it's actually acts is

726
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,199
acting weird honestly.

727
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 22: Yeah.

728
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 10: I always have some trouble with spaces anyway.

729
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 19: Yeah, Joe, Joe, Heshmeier, Catholic answers apologist. They've been out

730
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,000
to get me for six years on the feminism question,

731
00:50:57,199 --> 00:51:01,239
since I crushed Trent Horny in a can't a Christian

732
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,639
or a Catholic be Feminist? Debate in twenty nineteen, and

733
00:51:06,519 --> 00:51:11,800
they're just trying to limited hangout after all the Well,

734
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,840
I'll say this, Jay, this is something that's cool that

735
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,800
you collaborated with us on and you had a badass

736
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,880
part kind of the opening part of our documentary What

737
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,519
a Woman Is, that's about to be hung on one

738
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:27,400
of the largest platforms in the land.

739
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Speaker 10: I haven't announced which one for another couple of days.

740
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Speaker 5: Do you want to wait before that's announced.

741
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,159
Speaker 19: Yeah, I just have to ink the contract. Hopefully Thursday

742
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,840
I'll be signing that contract. But it's you have an

743
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,639
amazing part standing up for traditional Christian masculinity and femininity,

744
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,360
and you know, it's gonna rock the land and people

745
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,079
are definitely gonna hear about it because of where it's

746
00:51:51,079 --> 00:51:54,719
going to be hung. But so ever since the last

747
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,199
couple of years where we've made great gains, the Christian

748
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,320
patriarchy move movement, which is not specifically Catholic, it's Orthodoxy,

749
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,880
it's you, it's even guys like Joel Levin, you know,

750
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:14,599
a Protestant just arguing for the absolute difference, the absolute

751
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:24,159
obedience of wives to husbands that Christianity stands for scripturally.

752
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,760
Places like Catholic answers have been running and so they've

753
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been having their apologists come out.

754
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Speaker 10: With limited hangouts like, Okay.

755
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,599
Speaker 19: We're not going to defend out right feminism anymore the

756
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:39,000
way Trent Horn did in twenty nineteen in this debate

757
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:41,599
against me, We're going to split the difference, you know,

758
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,559
the way you do with the limited hangout. And that's

759
00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:47,599
what Joe Heshmeier's been doing. He's been making videos against me.

760
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,159
Saying that a wife doesn't have to obey her husband

761
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,199
in all things, even though the Roman Catechism says a

762
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,199
wife has to obey her husband in all things not

763
00:52:58,320 --> 00:52:59,760
inconsistent with Christian piety.

764
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 10: And that's sort of the battleground.

765
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 19: And it's a battleground that circumscribes the laity, who's like whatever,

766
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,559
ninety nine percent of the church militant. But yes, it

767
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:17,840
has implications for how much we should listen to female claerity.

768
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,280
You know, they want to make reiffy female clerics. And

769
00:53:22,119 --> 00:53:24,599
you know, ever since Vatican too, the church started naming

770
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,360
female doctors. There were zero female doctors until like nineteen

771
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,239
seventy of the church.

772
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 10: It means teacher.

773
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,519
Speaker 5: Oh interesting, I never even thought about that. So, yeah,

774
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:41,480
like the idea of the doctors of the church including females,

775
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,639
I haven't even thought about that. When was the first one,

776
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:43,920
do you know.

777
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:49,559
Speaker 19: Nineteen seventy or sixty sixty nine or seventy after Vatican two. Again,

778
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:52,400
I don't think it's I'm not saying this busts.

779
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 5: We know, we know Tim, we know you don't think it.

780
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,760
It's just still fun. I didn't know that.

781
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 10: People saying saying I'm going on here.

782
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 19: You know, it's just deeply, deeply problematic because doc door

783
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:07,559
in Latin means teacher, and women are not allowed to

784
00:54:07,639 --> 00:54:11,320
teach men and they are subservient to men, or just

785
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,360
reading a hilarious quote from Ambrose saying Adam is superior

786
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,599
to even men are superior to women even though they

787
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:20,719
were made outside the garden and she was made inside

788
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:21,119
the garden.

789
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:31,159
Speaker 5: But the battle, where are you there? We lost you again?

790
00:54:39,199 --> 00:54:44,199
Elon has determined that Tim only gets Tim minutes try again.

791
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,159
Speaker 10: Can you hear I'm getting better at coming back in?

792
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:50,920
It's kicking me out fast. Yeah.

793
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 19: I was just saying something we can all agree on

794
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,079
that we I know do agree on because of how

795
00:54:56,119 --> 00:55:00,599
effective you were in our documentary. Man was not made

796
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:03,320
for woman, Woman was made for man, and that that's

797
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,239
the whole battleground for both the laity and the clergy,

798
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:11,519
the way that the infiltrators are trying to introduce feminism

799
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,679
into Christianity and have done so for one hundred and

800
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fifty I.

801
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Speaker 5: Think you're that's a key point too, that people don't

802
00:55:17,159 --> 00:55:22,159
realize that the gender subversion is actually the stronger, more

803
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:26,079
effective way to subvert than just trying to like introduce

804
00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:31,119
some you know, gay friendly document or some you know,

805
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:37,400
some other tertiary thing, like a really cunning subversive way

806
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,159
to destroy things is actually this kind of gender stuff.

807
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 19: How many how many trainees or people that were even

808
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:48,920
tempted to transsexualism have you ever met?

809
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,079
Speaker 10: I've none, like none, it's it's fake.

810
00:55:51,679 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 6: How many?

811
00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 5: Very few? Yeah, yeah, very few?

812
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 19: But how many households are affected by feminism?

813
00:55:59,559 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 5: Exactly?

814
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 10: It's like every single one we grew up.

815
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 5: With, Well, every girl is told, every girl is told, oh,

816
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,480
you got to go to college and get a law

817
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:07,760
degree and become a slate queen.

818
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, for sure, every single one.

819
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,079
Speaker 19: And everyone's mom, you know, growing up in the eighties, nineties,

820
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:16,599
early two thousands, where it was the.

821
00:56:16,639 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 10: Main person they asked, not their dad.

822
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:22,159
Speaker 19: That's disordered, you know, it was not father knows best.

823
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:25,920
And when you look into the history of feminism what

824
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:28,519
you have and I have, and Rachel Wilson has, and

825
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,199
my wife Dez in her book, it's just very clear

826
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,800
that we were alied to. Even about the historiography, feminism

827
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,599
is not like sixty years old. It dates back to

828
00:56:38,639 --> 00:56:42,320
the middle eighteen hundreds, right, your grandparents' grandparents were feminists.

829
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,559
And the proof of that is literally I've been in

830
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,000
arguments with like my one hundred year old grandma when

831
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,000
I was complaining about my female boss and she was saying, Oh,

832
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:53,360
I could have been your boss, you would have been good.

833
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,199
I'm like, no, it's unnatural. It makes me feel.

834
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 10: Makes me feel unnatural, really.

835
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,519
Speaker 19: Bad to ever be bossed arooned by one because it's

836
00:57:02,679 --> 00:57:04,119
unnatural and it's unscriptural.

837
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,599
Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah, And this is so contrary to where like

838
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,880
everything in society is. But Tim, I appreciate you being

839
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:19,199
bold on this, and you're you did a book on patriarchy,

840
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:20,840
and then your wife has one as well, right.

841
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's called The Case for Patriarchy.

842
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 19: This was honestly had a lot of a lot of

843
00:57:29,599 --> 00:57:33,360
the major conservative outlets, even even Michael Knowles was really

844
00:57:33,559 --> 00:57:36,400
really pushing it hard when it came out four years ago.

845
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:40,000
And my wife's book is called Ask Your Husband, quoting

846
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:43,280
Scripture there too. So you know, we, along with you,

847
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,760
along with Rachel, were at the forefront of this Catholic

848
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:51,480
and her husband Andrew Wilson, this Christian patriarchy movement, and

849
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,159
it's it's the most important thing. It's the most important

850
00:57:55,199 --> 00:57:57,639
thing to the elites and the subverters.

851
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 5: It really is. And this is so overlooked because you know,

852
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:04,280
all this stuff begins in the family, begins at home, right,

853
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,639
That's where children are imprinted, so to speak. I mean,

854
00:58:07,639 --> 00:58:10,519
I'm not saying it's all environment or whatever, but that

855
00:58:10,679 --> 00:58:13,880
the genetic type. You know, people are imprinted from their

856
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,360
birth by the relationship and roles that they immediately experience

857
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,400
in the way that mom and dad act and treat

858
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,480
each other. So if a child is raised always you know,

859
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:28,079
being you know, by a single mom or always you know,

860
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:31,039
if you got to understand their situations where people can't

861
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:33,679
avoid that. But when they see this sort of like

862
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,440
you know, cucky behavior by the dad or the absentee

863
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:43,000
dad or whatever, or the you know, feminist, insane mom, like,

864
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:47,760
it causes the aberrations later on in life where men

865
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,039
grow up to not actually be men, but to be

866
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,400
just sort of default, subservient to whatever women are saying.

867
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,920
And so I think you're spot on, Tim. What time

868
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,480
is your stream today for people that want to check

869
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,039
out your respect? Joe Heschmiiner, Oh, we're.

870
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,079
Speaker 10: Gonna do like one thirty CST. Could I just add

871
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:07,000
one one thing to what she just said.

872
00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 19: I just think about this, and this is why we

873
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:13,559
called the documentary that's going to rock everyone What a

874
00:59:13,639 --> 00:59:17,880
Woman Is. As opposed to Matt Walsh's documentary What Is

875
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:18,320
a Woman?

876
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 10: He actually doesn't get.

877
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 19: Around to answering the question, and all he says is

878
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,079
that a man is not a woman.

879
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 10: He says what a woman is not.

880
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 19: And then the documentary that Walsh came out with definitely True,

881
00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:32,840
proceeds to prove a point that everyone already knew, which

882
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:39,159
is that oncological gender dysphoria i e. Transsexualism is false.

883
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,480
Everyone knew that, no one ever believed it. But what

884
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:46,000
everyone believes is feminism. The name for feminism is functional

885
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:49,199
gender dysphoria. It's just a man acting like a woman,

886
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,800
a woman acting like a man. You talk about this

887
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,079
in What a Woman Is? I talk about it a

888
00:59:54,159 --> 00:59:57,639
great deal. In the case for patriarchy, that's the one

889
00:59:57,679 --> 01:00:00,360
that got everyone. Man, that's the gender justice worried. That

890
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,320
screws up everyone, probably turns people gay, makes men and

891
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,360
women hate each other, screws them up. You know, wires

892
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,679
women to want to go do male things, men to

893
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:15,000
want to nurse their babies, or whatever the shit. It's

894
01:00:15,079 --> 01:00:18,119
crazy and it's the big it's the big, it's a

895
01:00:18,159 --> 01:00:20,840
big lie. It's the final attack on the family tim.

896
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 5: A lot of people in the chat are saying, and

897
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,239
they used to stick up for you, but then you said,

898
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,519
Phantom Menace is good.

899
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 10: Come on, the prequels are the best. The prequels are

900
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:30,719
the best.

901
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,719
Speaker 5: What whoa dude, You're just raised baby?

902
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 19: Come on now, I'm not. I'm like, Episode four is

903
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,320
straight up garbage. A New Hope is almost unwatchably bad.

904
01:00:44,119 --> 01:00:46,039
That's this is the first time I've heard anyone with

905
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:48,400
this take. I'm almost like, I'm sort of I'm not

906
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,320
sure what to do here.

907
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:55,039
Speaker 10: I like Empire Strike's bag, Luke's a little bitch. Episode

908
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:56,239
four is hard to watch.

909
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 5: I like Lukes always a little bit, but also that's

910
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,239
his character arcic, like he he sort of like grows

911
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:05,000
up by Return of the Jedi. And yes, I know

912
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:08,159
that the Empire is actually the really based people and

913
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,840
the Jedi are like the gay relatives. I know all that.

914
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,840
I'm just saying, like, no, not even on that.

915
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:18,519
Speaker 19: I'm just saying, look, episode one, so here's it's the

916
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:23,519
principal of Darth Maul is badass, right, and George Lucas

917
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,239
overused Vader in four or five six and you see

918
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,239
Vader like scrubbing his fucking toilet.

919
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: Dude, the whole chat is saying that you're a Star

920
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:37,360
Wars heretic. I am, but I'm with the Zoomers on

921
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:41,440
the problem. Okay, okay, So he overused Vader in four

922
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,960
five six. You see Vader like reading on the toilet.

923
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:46,360
He's in every scene, and so it takes.

924
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 10: Away his badass ness. And so Lucas over.

925
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,719
Speaker 19: Learned that principle and overcompensated and then came up with

926
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,840
Darth Maul, who's the coolest character in Star Wars, and

927
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,159
he underused him. He's only in two scenes in Chant

928
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:00,840
of Mess, so that's definitely a problem.

929
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:02,119
Speaker 10: Qui Gon's also cool.

930
01:02:02,199 --> 01:02:05,239
Speaker 19: He killed them too early, but jar Jar is really

931
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:05,559
the hero.

932
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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna say, wow, okay, I'm just gonna decide

933
01:02:13,199 --> 01:02:16,079
to steal man this whole thing and say that you're

934
01:02:16,159 --> 01:02:19,719
rage bating because this is it's blowing my mind. I don't,

935
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:21,199
by the way, I don't hate the prequels like a

936
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:23,000
lot of people do. I just think they're kind of silly.

937
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:25,920
I like the plot though, like there's some interesting sort

938
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,159
of false flag style conspiracy stuff going on in uh

939
01:02:29,679 --> 01:02:34,039
in the prequels. But anyway, Uh, well, Tim, I appreciate

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01:02:34,079 --> 01:02:36,199
you coming on. Thank you for your h your take.

941
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:38,920
I think a lot of insight, a lot of wisdom there.

942
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:41,719
Anything you want to leave us with, Uh.

943
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, everyone, I'll be I guess doing the stream

944
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,559
at one point thirty if you want to hear the

945
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:48,239
real Christian point of.

946
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,039
Speaker 5: View on man woman relationship. And I asked you real quick,

947
01:02:51,119 --> 01:02:55,079
real quick, what what exactly was Joe saying? Like what

948
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,559
was his critique of you? Because I didn't I didn't

949
01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:57,920
hear all this.

950
01:02:58,840 --> 01:02:59,519
Speaker 10: He said that.

951
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 19: Paragraph seventy six of Cassidy Kanoby allows women to.

952
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,039
Speaker 10: Wives specifically to.

953
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 19: Basically repudiate their husband's orders on crudential matters.

954
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 10: He gave the specific.

955
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,679
Speaker 19: Example of buying a car. If a husband wants to

956
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,800
buy a car, he should, I guess his wife if

957
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,159
she thinks it's imprudent, can.

958
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 10: Repudiate.

959
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 19: And this is specifically rejected by the Roman Catechism, by

960
01:03:29,519 --> 01:03:33,440
scripture by Pope's Pious ten eleven twelve.

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01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 5: So he literally gave these so like she's vetoing it

962
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,960
or something like I'm gonna buy the car and wife

963
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,239
says no, Then that's the end of the story. Is

964
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:42,920
that what he's saying.

965
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,639
Speaker 19: Yeah, he somehow says that, you know, the husband has

966
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,559
final say, but she can veto. And he attributes this

967
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,960
to Pious the Elevens, who in castid Canuby says a

968
01:03:56,039 --> 01:03:57,679
wife must obey in all things.

969
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,159
Speaker 10: It's very strange.

970
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, cool, appreciate that. I'm sorry. I didn't

971
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,639
mean to cut you off. What were you going to say?

972
01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:05,039
Were you going to say more? Because I was curious

973
01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:07,800
what his critique was or what his response was. Did

974
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:09,480
you want to say more about it?

975
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,239
Speaker 10: It's a limited hangout there.

976
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,039
Speaker 19: They're really scrambling because the Christian patriarchy position has gained

977
01:04:15,079 --> 01:04:16,599
so much, such a head of steam.

978
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 5: You mean that Catholic answers is that?

979
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:20,199
Speaker 21: Yeah?

980
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:26,079
Speaker 19: Yeah, they're just Lyla Rose, you know, Trent Horn, Joe Heshmeier,

981
01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:30,679
the rest of Catholic answers. They are scrambling to fabricate

982
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:37,440
and then defend new positions, you know, new iterations of feminists.

983
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,920
You know the Martin Bailey thing they used to try

984
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,320
to defend. Yeah, yeah, what's vicious version of feminism now

985
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:44,679
they're getting painted.

986
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,519
Speaker 10: Into it in irrevocable moral corner.

987
01:04:46,519 --> 01:04:49,559
Speaker 19: And they're just trying to defend less ambitious forms of

988
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:51,039
feminism and it's not going to work.

989
01:04:51,239 --> 01:04:53,519
Speaker 5: I haven't kept that with Lyla Rose. What was your

990
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:55,360
critique of her response to her?

991
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,599
Speaker 10: Oh? Everything, she's terrible.

992
01:04:57,719 --> 01:05:01,559
Speaker 19: She's just terrible. She's uh, total feminists. She recently did

993
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:04,920
a video over Thanksgiving. She's talking about dating her husband,

994
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09,239
and she's just basically dressing him down, saying in the nicey,

995
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,880
nicey miss Chris Lilah roseway that her husband was kind

996
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,280
of more excited and she didn't have butterflies by the

997
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,719
time she married him, but it was a sensible match

998
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,000
because they dated a lot. I don't want to mischaracterize it,

999
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:24,079
but it's it's terrible. And she she thinks women can

1000
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:28,360
work and you know, bring their kids in to work.

1001
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 10: And she says feminism is good.

1002
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 19: She says first wave feminism is good, which is actually

1003
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,360
the most evil wave of it. As you know, just

1004
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,360
everything she says is wrong, aside from the.

1005
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,519
Speaker 10: Fact that abortion is wrong.

1006
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 5: I'm not doubting you. I just I've never really even

1007
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,599
kept up with his chick, so I don't know much

1008
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:45,559
about what she talks about, but I don't doubt you

1009
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:45,880
at all.

1010
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,239
Speaker 10: She's influential. She was at the White House yesterday. Oh wow,

1011
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,599
it's unfortunate I have to.

1012
01:05:51,639 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 19: Deal with her because she's the Catholic and I'm a

1013
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,719
Catholic and she's constantly selling snake.

1014
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 17: Well.

1015
01:05:58,159 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 5: Well, thanks for chomming, Endue. Appreciate your take on all this,

1016
01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:08,679
and look forward to, by the way, when that gets announced,

1017
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,320
the big announcement as to where that's going to be premiering.

1018
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:12,960
We got to get you to come on and talk

1019
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,719
about all that again.

1020
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,239
Speaker 10: Okay, it should be next week early awesome?

1021
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 5: All right, bro, all right, thanks Tim, you too, man Later,

1022
01:06:20,719 --> 01:06:22,079
So guys, look for that. There's going to be a

1023
01:06:22,119 --> 01:06:25,280
lot of fun, a huge documentary. Shout out to Nick

1024
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:30,239
stumpauser for making a really cool documentary and putting me

1025
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,559
in there for a sizeable chunk. I didn't know how

1026
01:06:32,639 --> 01:06:35,360
much of it would actually make it into into the documentary,

1027
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,599
but that was really cool of Nick to do that.

1028
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,360
And shout out to Tim for kind of setting that

1029
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,960
up arranging that when that gets out and announced, no worries,

1030
01:06:44,039 --> 01:06:46,760
I'll be talking about it a lot don't worry. If

1031
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,239
you don't understand what's going on, it'll be announced. It'll

1032
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,320
be up. FDA is in the chat. Did you want

1033
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,199
to chime in? You got something you want to say

1034
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:56,079
on this, Bob. I didn't realize that Christian Mario was

1035
01:06:56,159 --> 01:06:59,920
on Tim's channel, So shout out to Tim for having

1036
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:05,119
Christian Mario on talking about Zionism, patriarchy, and evangelization. So

1037
01:07:05,199 --> 01:07:09,880
that looks like a cool chat there, FD. You want

1038
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,320
to say something, all.

1039
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,639
Speaker 10: Right, So I do want to say something. I want

1040
01:07:14,639 --> 01:07:16,519
to give a shout out to Methleene Blue. I am

1041
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:18,760
feeling awesome. Thank you, Jay Jake.

1042
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,159
Speaker 5: I did actually get him to take some. He took some.

1043
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, we got some, and I'm feeling really good right

1044
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,519
now too. I'm streaming through mine. We've got a bunch

1045
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,920
of goblins and that can come on.

1046
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 22: And we've got to call no man's father. All you

1047
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:39,360
need is to believe Jesus in your heart. All religions

1048
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:46,239
man made. We had some, so we're streaming yours through

1049
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,400
here so they can come on.

1050
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 5: So we are you talking about to Yeah? Where is this?

1051
01:07:55,559 --> 01:07:56,280
What are you talking about?

1052
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 10: So I'm doing my YouTube and I'm throwing in the

1053
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,679
X right here.

1054
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:05,079
Speaker 5: Oh, to get them to come on here. Yeah, okay,

1055
01:08:06,039 --> 01:08:07,360
that works, So you guys can.

1056
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 22: Come on and just tell me how you should never

1057
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:15,360
call anybody father or teacher, and that all you need

1058
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:17,920
is to say the magic words Jesus in my heart.

1059
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 5: By the way, Leo, have you noticed, there's like this

1060
01:08:21,079 --> 01:08:25,119
expectation that each of the popes, and I think the

1061
01:08:25,159 --> 01:08:27,560
patriarchs do it too. The EP does it too, Like

1062
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:30,800
they go to the Blue Mosque and they take their

1063
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:33,000
shoes off and pray. And now Leo has done it.

1064
01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:35,600
I don't know if he prayed, but he apparently takes

1065
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,159
his shoes off to walk into the holy ground of

1066
01:08:38,199 --> 01:08:42,680
the mosque. Have you seen this? No, well, you know

1067
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,000
that they've all prayed. Right Look there he's taking his

1068
01:08:46,039 --> 01:08:52,680
shoes off. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna mute you because

1069
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:57,439
that's offensive to me that you're clicking on your nineteen

1070
01:08:58,079 --> 01:08:58,760
ninety nine.

1071
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:03,199
Speaker 10: I started like chewing food like that's only for me.

1072
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,159
Speaker 5: To do on my streams. You can't take my you

1073
01:09:05,239 --> 01:09:08,119
can't steal my vibe, dude by chewing food loud on

1074
01:09:08,199 --> 01:09:12,039
your stream. So yeah, so Leo took off his shoes

1075
01:09:12,079 --> 01:09:15,720
before entering the Blue Mosque. What that was so humble

1076
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:23,039
of him to do that while so spiritual. I wonder

1077
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:24,800
if he prays in there though. Does he actually pray

1078
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,199
or does he just walk around in his in his

1079
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:32,920
sock feet, getting getting a Muslim dust and funk all

1080
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:37,319
over his socks his socky feet. Is he wearing Gucci socks?

1081
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,279
But what kind of socks does the pope wear? I

1082
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:43,720
think it is Gucci socks, right, Whatever gay Italian brand is,

1083
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,039
like the biggest gay Italian brands kind of be what

1084
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,520
isn't it? Isn't it something? And there are some truth

1085
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:57,520
to that, Like there's like one of these big gay designers,

1086
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:02,640
Versaci or Gucci. Somebody makes like all the papal outfits.

1087
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,000
I think I think I heard that. Okay, So Cleave

1088
01:10:06,119 --> 01:10:09,560
is saying he didn't pray, which is interesting because Francis

1089
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:17,000
and uh John Paul the Second prayed in the mosque. No,

1090
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:20,880
Benedict and Francis prayed in the mosque, but Leo just

1091
01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:28,800
took off his shoes and walked around. Interesting. John Adams

1092
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,039
is in the house. What's up? John? Wet's see if

1093
01:10:31,039 --> 01:10:33,119
we get some of these Protestants in here. That were

1094
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:42,159
yapping an FDA's chat Prada Protestants get it. So you're

1095
01:10:42,199 --> 01:10:46,479
saying Prada makes the papal styles.

1096
01:10:48,359 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.

1097
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 23: Don't chin Gabana has some stuff.

1098
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 10: I don't think these people are real. There's new way

1099
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:57,640
that people are this like.

1100
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,159
Speaker 22: I'm look, I'm optimistic, man, I'm just I'm not a dumer.

1101
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,399
I really don't believe people are this stupid. I don't

1102
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,359
think they're actually real.

1103
01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:10,079
Speaker 5: I think they are. I know they are. I assure

1104
01:11:10,119 --> 01:11:14,520
you I've been out amongst the masses there that they're

1105
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:18,479
that crazy. The priest that yeah, so okay, Francis was

1106
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:27,319
a product Pope Prada bena to Okay, the devil wears Prada. Yeah, yeah,

1107
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:27,880
got there.

1108
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:28,600
Speaker 6: You go nice.

1109
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:38,279
Speaker 5: Look at those sassy little rayed shoes. Okay, uh, John,

1110
01:11:38,319 --> 01:11:40,800
did you want to comment on anything other than the

1111
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,800
latest styles? John is our John is our Vanity Fair correspondent.

1112
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,399
Speaker 23: By the way, I'm the pop culture correspondent.

1113
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 10: No.

1114
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:52,520
Speaker 23: If I think it's something, I'll try and back in.

1115
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 5: Okay, cool, Let's see who's up next. Trevor. What's up? Yeah, Trevor,

1116
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:07,399
you boy, Trapp, Trevor. I'm mute, man, all right, I'm

1117
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,079
just gonna do it. I'm gonna make T shirts to

1118
01:12:09,159 --> 01:12:11,359
say I'm mute, dude. It's just time to do it,

1119
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,119
because yeah, it was inevitable. Neil and Kate were like,

1120
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:19,199
when are you gonna make unmutuo shirts? I'm like, okay, okay.

1121
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:20,159
Then Trevor just leaves.

1122
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,279
Speaker 22: Well, remember I was I mentioned years back, I was

1123
01:12:23,319 --> 01:12:26,119
gonna make vindicated shirts for you.

1124
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:27,399
Speaker 5: That'll work.

1125
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,319
Speaker 10: That'll work. Hell, can you hear me?

1126
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,079
Speaker 5: Hey? What's up?

1127
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,039
Speaker 10: Hey? Sorry about that? What's up?

1128
01:12:36,119 --> 01:12:36,279
Speaker 23: Man?

1129
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,159
Speaker 10: I just had a quick question.

1130
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,399
Speaker 24: Are you guys on topic or you guys kind of

1131
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:42,560
just talking about random stuff.

1132
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 22: We're talking about second order logic and busy and probability.

1133
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 5: No, talk about whatever you want, man, what's on your mind?

1134
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:51,039
Speaker 10: Okay.

1135
01:12:52,119 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 19: I'm not the brightest dude, but I know I've seen

1136
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:55,560
some Jehovah witnesses.

1137
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, I seen the Jehovah witnesses the other day and I.

1138
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 24: I was just asking them a couple of questions, just

1139
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:08,520
trying to understand what they believe, and they they started

1140
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:13,079
to go on this rant about how Orthodox and Catholics

1141
01:13:13,119 --> 01:13:13,560
and whatnot.

1142
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,560
Speaker 6: A lot of are.

1143
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:20,399
Speaker 24: What's it called, like, traditions are based and like paganism, which.

1144
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:24,359
Speaker 10: But one of the things they tried to say was

1145
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,720
they brought up.

1146
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,199
Speaker 24: Like one of their sorry, dude, I'm you call me

1147
01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:33,000
at a brand time.

1148
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 5: You want to come back in later, you want to

1149
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,039
you want to just take a break, gather your thoughts,

1150
01:13:39,079 --> 01:13:41,119
will bring you right back up. Ras. What's up?

1151
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:45,199
Speaker 23: Man, Jesus wasn't crucified on across that's their biggest one.

1152
01:13:47,399 --> 01:13:49,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this was a This was a good thing

1153
01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:50,840
to point out that like a lot of the things

1154
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,319
that that Jobah's witnesses think are quote pagan, they kind

1155
01:13:55,359 --> 01:13:57,960
of have a word concept fallacy thing going on where,

1156
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,720
uh they think that something that comes from a culture

1157
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,199
that is perhaps pagan, makes all of those things pagan.

1158
01:14:05,319 --> 01:14:09,760
So for example, the days of the week, right they're related,

1159
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,600
or the months that're related to gods and deities of Rome,

1160
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,960
or if you wear a wedding ring, that's pagan because

1161
01:14:16,199 --> 01:14:18,239
people in Rome did it and they were pagan. This

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is silly, right, because it's a difference between a pagan

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culture which elements of the culture can be baptized, versus

1164
01:14:26,039 --> 01:14:29,399
things that are idolatrous. So as Orthodox we don't want

1165
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,720
to be involved in anything that's idolatrous. But there's many,

1166
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:37,159
many things in pagan culture that's perfectly fine and can

1167
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:39,479
be baptized because things in themselves are good. There's no

1168
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such thing as a thing that is inherently evil.

1169
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Speaker 10: Except for the word father. Obviously that's intrinsically evil and.

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Speaker 5: Well according to some of these evangelicals. Yeah, I remember

1171
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,199
there was a guy recently that was evangelical. Due was like, cool,

1172
01:14:54,319 --> 01:14:56,720
no move father. I was like, how do you keep

1173
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:01,680
the Ten Commandments? And he's like, that's different. Okay, so

1174
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,479
it doesn't mean call no man father, right, Like you

1175
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,439
can qualify it. What's up, man, ras, what's up?

1176
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Speaker 25: I've watched a live stream of yours like last year,

1177
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and I can't really find it anymore.

1178
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Speaker 10: I don't know if it's a member's only video.

1179
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 25: Now you are talking about the Frankfurt school and all

1180
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,680
the weirdo was like, Wilhelm Reich.

1181
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I made that one private. Yeah, oh

1182
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,199
all right, what about it?

1183
01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 25: I was thinking, like you were just trying to find it, yeah,

1184
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,039
because I thought maybe you two to get down because

1185
01:15:38,039 --> 01:15:39,720
it's kind of a sensitive topic.

1186
01:15:41,399 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 5: That's possible. Honestly, there's so many live streams I don't

1187
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,800
remember anymore, but I know that one of the ones

1188
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:49,880
that's public where I talked about Wilhelm Raiger is I

1189
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think the one called the Psychology of the Left, and

1190
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I did get into Frankfurt School in that one. I

1191
01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:57,079
think that one is still uh, but you might not

1192
01:15:57,159 --> 01:15:58,680
have been able to find it just because it doesn't

1193
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:04,840
say frank for School in the title. So let's see

1194
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,880
if I can find it for Psychology to the Left,

1195
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:12,760
Jade Dyer, that might pull it up. Yeah, it's these

1196
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,600
two right here do touch on that, but it also

1197
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might be in the second part for members too, I

1198
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don't remember. So there's the Secret Philosophy of the Left

1199
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and his technique and the Psychology the Left history and analysis.

1200
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Both of those do touch on Wilhelm Reich and his

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01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,560
role in the sexual revolution and the frank for School.

1202
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Speaker 25: Great Also, I wanted to say that the Roman Catholic

1203
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,880
Church is actually very traditional and based because they're upholding

1204
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,399
the ancient Greek or Roman tradition of having gay sex

1205
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and stuff like that.

1206
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 5: Thank you. Absolutely, Yeah, we're overlooking this line of argumentation

1207
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:55,640
that there's there's there's trad butt sex, there's trad touching

1208
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,199
the butts, that's being overlooked here. And in fact, you know,

1209
01:16:59,239 --> 01:17:02,600
there was a guy that in defending Evila Julius evil

1210
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,359
as bays and trad and I was like, yeah, we're

1211
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:11,199
you know, the based trad version of Greco Roman homo

1212
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eroticism is just like people can't respond, they can't deal

1213
01:17:15,279 --> 01:17:18,199
with this level of argumentation, so they're having to go

1214
01:17:18,319 --> 01:17:22,760
towards liberal queer theory and not trad queer theory. And

1215
01:17:23,119 --> 01:17:25,159
that's a great point. That's a joke. By the way,

1216
01:17:25,359 --> 01:17:31,680
uh Ali train, what's up man, guys, If you want

1217
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,640
to support the stream, you can do. So there's superchats.

1218
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,640
We noticed on the other night's live stream that I

1219
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,279
didn't start getting super chats and until I started roasting

1220
01:17:41,319 --> 01:17:43,840
you guys in the audience. When I started roasting you

1221
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,359
guys and calling you poores like Tom Sigura, that's ironically

1222
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:49,880
when you guys started super chatting. So I'm gonna just

1223
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,399
start roasting everybody as the pores in the chat, and

1224
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,560
I'm gonna go full Tom Sigura, and that's when you

1225
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,079
guys start throwing in the money. That's a weird that's

1226
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,279
human like reverse I call it. That's how it works,

1227
01:18:02,079 --> 01:18:03,720
They're like, because then what happens is they want to

1228
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,079
prove that they're not in the pores, and so they

1229
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:08,439
start super chatting me to prove that.

1230
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Speaker 10: No.

1231
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 5: Actually, I've got extra cash, bro check out how much

1232
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:18,760
I'm super chatty right now? Reverse Psychology. Hello, Hey, what's

1233
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,439
up dog? How are you doing?

1234
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Speaker 6: All right?

1235
01:18:21,359 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 10: So I would you mind?

1236
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,119
Speaker 26: I want to get your idea on a little bit

1237
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on changing images of man if that's possible.

1238
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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I we just cover it.

1239
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:30,159
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1240
01:18:30,279 --> 01:18:33,520
Speaker 26: So I actually got my hands on the physical copy

1241
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,399
of the book, which was kind of surprising, and I

1242
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got it at my school library, which I was really really.

1243
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Speaker 10: Surprised they had it.

1244
01:18:41,319 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 26: And dude, yeah, let me tell you those things are barren,

1245
01:18:44,119 --> 01:18:49,760
these shows nothing. But you know, right now, I'm graduating

1246
01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:56,479
and I've realized that really the big issue with school

1247
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,800
is the whole idea of nobody understands even their own

1248
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:05,199
worldview paradigm. And as I was just like just skimming

1249
01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:07,920
through the book a little bit, I noticed that on

1250
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page one they talked about the cultural.

1251
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Speaker 10: Transformation and through crisis.

1252
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Speaker 15: And then they talk about then in the.

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Speaker 26: Next page, through the conceptual revolution of science and through

1254
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the concept of Maceway, and it's literally that they're literally

1255
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just talking about how oh it's you know, we're just

1256
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,560
going to change everyone's worldview in order to affect all

1257
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these changes and everything. And now, you know, kind of

1258
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reading that and like self examining the past and my

1259
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,520
education or if you would even call that education, I'm like,

1260
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,199
what the hell?

1261
01:19:47,359 --> 01:19:52,560
Speaker 10: There's like I didn't really learn much. All the learning

1262
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that I really.

1263
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Speaker 26: Got was either through me actively pursuing and trying to

1264
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find the truth myself outside of school, and it was

1265
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never really I was never really challenged within school, except

1266
01:20:06,279 --> 01:20:08,600
if I try to maybe have a debate with someone,

1267
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you know, but that was sometimes just like you never

1268
01:20:13,079 --> 01:20:16,880
get anywhere because nobody wants to argue worldviews. And I

1269
01:20:17,119 --> 01:20:19,800
just realized, I think that's my biggest critique. I don't know,

1270
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what are your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think that, you know, college academia education

1272
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is for the most part, unless you're in some sort

1273
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of like private school or Catholic coal school setting that's

1274
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like you know, based around the classics or classical pedagogy

1275
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or classical education. Like most of what you're getting, it's

1276
01:20:40,119 --> 01:20:43,359
not that it's totally wrong or totally bad. But you know,

1277
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I was doing undergrad grad stuff about ten years ago,

1278
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and even at that time, like it was already getting

1279
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pretty heavy with the lib stuff, the woke stuff. It

1280
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:56,760
wasn't totally woke like I think it probably is now,

1281
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,239
but it was like a good ways there. So I

1282
01:21:00,279 --> 01:21:02,680
would imagine, I'll put it this way, I would say,

1283
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,199
when I was there, it was probably if I was

1284
01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:10,439
to gauge it, like fifty percent good education, now sixty

1285
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:13,880
percent good education, forty percent kind of live brainwashing, And

1286
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I would bet by now it's probably seventy thirty.

1287
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Speaker 10: What I'm because it's bad.

1288
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 6: It's bad.

1289
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Speaker 15: I'm like, I'll give you a quick example.

1290
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Speaker 26: One time I had a debate because I was explaining

1291
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to someone how it's inherently contradictory for Mamdani to be

1292
01:21:30,079 --> 01:21:32,640
a Muslim or claimed to be a Muslim and also

1293
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,399
support the skittle stuff.

1294
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Speaker 10: Right all at the same time.

1295
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 15: And they were confused.

1296
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,319
Speaker 26: And then they asked me if I viuse on how

1297
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,319
it works in Christianity, and I give them the Orthodox

1298
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:47,000
perspective essentially, And I was even debidding this, there was

1299
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a trans person in front of me talking about this.

1300
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Speaker 5: I don't know if this was dumb or brave, but

1301
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uh for me.

1302
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Speaker 10: To do this in front of them, But like.

1303
01:21:57,159 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 26: All everyone was worried about because it was me and

1304
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,840
through the people, All they were worried about was whether

1305
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,199
I fit their definition of homophobic rather than trying to understand.

1306
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't care about your argument, dude. It's all

1307
01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:10,880
about like it's a cult. Dude. It's like you're dealing

1308
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,359
with a cult. You're not dealing with people that are

1309
01:22:12,359 --> 01:22:14,199
trying to figure out logic and reasoning.

1310
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Speaker 26: And I told them, I was like, guys, I gave

1311
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:19,479
you my definition of homophobic and they.

1312
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 10: Gave me theirs. And I told them, we're at an impasse.

1313
01:22:22,199 --> 01:22:24,399
Speaker 26: We're not going to get anywhere until we examine each

1314
01:22:24,399 --> 01:22:25,279
other's worldviews.

1315
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Speaker 5: Yet, now you're spot on, du because look, you're trying

1316
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,079
to reason with people that have been given over to

1317
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:34,520
a debased mind and have forfeited their reasoning. That's the

1318
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,279
problem here. So we're not at a point where, oh,

1319
01:22:37,319 --> 01:22:40,000
we're going to reason these people back into the right positions. Right,

1320
01:22:40,079 --> 01:22:42,359
I'm talking about those people. There are still people that

1321
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,119
you can reason with. I'm not saying that it's total right.

1322
01:22:46,119 --> 01:22:48,479
There are people who are willing to learn, want to learn.

1323
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But when it comes to like mainstream education, being in

1324
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,439
that system. Again, unless you're like in father Deganonias's class,

1325
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,119
which is probably not most people right in terms of

1326
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academ and most professors are probably pretty bad, would be

1327
01:23:01,159 --> 01:23:05,399
my guess. You're not dealing with people who want logic

1328
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,039
reasoning and who want truth. Remember this is a key point.

1329
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Many people, especially as things get worse and worse, they

1330
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,319
actually don't want what's true. They actually want to fight

1331
01:23:16,399 --> 01:23:21,560
against what's true. That's a really crucial insight into I

1332
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:25,000
think human psychology. And you know, when you're young, you

1333
01:23:25,119 --> 01:23:27,079
think I'll reason with these people, I will debate them

1334
01:23:27,079 --> 01:23:29,880
into the truth. And then as you debate throughout your

1335
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,680
twenties and into your thirties, you started to realize a

1336
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,520
lot of people don't want the truth, and there's no

1337
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,680
argument that I'm going to present that's going to convince everybody.

1338
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And it's not because of a lack of evidence or

1339
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:46,039
a failure in your argumentation. Oftentimes it's actually because again

1340
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remember back to the beginning of the talk today, we

1341
01:23:48,279 --> 01:23:53,039
were talking about Ransom C. S. Lewis's Space Trilogy, Volume three.

1342
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What's Professor Ransom's what's excuse me, not Ransom, I said Ransom, Mark,

1343
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I'm getting Ransom mixed up with Ransom is supposed to

1344
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be C. S. Lewis talking about Tolkien. Ransom is based

1345
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:10,279
on Tolkien. Mark is the character in volume three who

1346
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,560
intentionally chooses the evidence that he wants to be true.

1347
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So he has in his life a bunch of evidences

1348
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,119
that point to the organization that he's a part of,

1349
01:24:21,279 --> 01:24:25,680
being basically Tavistock being the bad guys. And he's also

1350
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,039
got evidences that he thinks well, but they are also

1351
01:24:28,119 --> 01:24:29,720
trying to do good things, and they told me that

1352
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they're good and their intentions are good. So I'm going

1353
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to choose the evidences that make me part of a

1354
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,479
good thing, and I'm going to ignore the massive amounts

1355
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,920
of evidences that make me part of a conspiracy against humanity.

1356
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And when he has his conversion realization experience, he admits

1357
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:54,199
it wasn't a problem of evidences. I was intentionally ignoring

1358
01:24:55,239 --> 01:25:00,399
the evidences and choosing the other counter evidences which were minimal,

1359
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that confirm my biases. So confirmation bias is that right.

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Speaker 23: You know, another thing with changing images of man and people,

1361
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you know, the like like great ray beats and with

1362
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cybernetics and things like that.

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Speaker 5: Sided a bunch of the book, go ahead, yeah, and yeah.

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Speaker 23: I have a copy of it too, And the changing

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of words in general, like just for instance, the color inner.

1366
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He just said trans person. Well, like twenty years ago

1367
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nobody used that word, and the changing of descriptives and

1368
01:25:41,119 --> 01:25:45,640
linguistics to confuse people. And then like they even touched

1369
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on it in nineteen eighty four with the constant updating.

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Speaker 5: Of like the terms the appropriate PC terms.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it confused confuses not only like normy people, it

1372
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confuses us because we in order to be able to

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communicate to people, you have to adopt the words too,

1374
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even though you know that's not the correct term. You

1375
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,600
would say, you know twenty twenty five years ago, Hey

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a man who thinks he's a woman is crazy. Now

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it's a trans person yee right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, The words are intimately tied into the social engineering,

1379
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and that's what you understand when you get into these

1380
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high level Tavistock type people. And that's exactly what standing

1381
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image as a man. It's sri which is tabasak connected,

1382
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and that's exactly what Rowo was trying to pin Down

1383
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in nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, because he knew that.

1385
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Speaker 13: I mean that was going on even back then, that

1386
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they knew if they changed the way of communication and

1387
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the adoption of like, oh, let's normalize something that's weird,

1388
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and how do we do that. Well, we'll just change

1389
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the name of it and we'll start calling it something

1390
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else that people would in their minds start thinking it

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was normal.

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Speaker 5: And I want to remind everybody if you're interested in

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01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,920
the second half of the analysis of changing image of Man,

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01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,000
we finally did get to it. We finally covered it,

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and that was the stream a couple of days ago

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or one day ago here Thanksgiving Week with Cat Bondie Dirt,

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01:27:14,319 --> 01:27:16,600
Poor Robbins and the two thousand dollars book You're not

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01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,760
supposed to read. That is that is the part two

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of Changing Images of Man. Let's see Jerry Art, what's up, man, Jerry,

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01:27:31,079 --> 01:27:41,800
what's up? Unmute man, Jerry Art, unmute.

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01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:44,199
Speaker 10: Hello.

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01:27:45,079 --> 01:27:53,199
Speaker 27: Hey, So there's a Greek ausdacesen me and considering the

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01:27:53,279 --> 01:27:58,640
recent events, if they do like separate from the rest

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01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:03,600
of the church, the sacraments won't be valid.

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01:28:03,399 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, when there's an excommunication of separation at that

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01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,119
point if you were to come to say a ro

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01:28:09,279 --> 01:28:14,079
Court church or whatever, they would not accept the baptism

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01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:19,159
or whatever if it took place after the official removal

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or separation.

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Speaker 27: Right, I mean this is this archidiocese is in Australia,

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it's not in America.

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Speaker 5: But well that the priests. Yeah, that will matter though,

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01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,760
because I mean, well, like you might, for example, go

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01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,000
let's say you went to a Greek church and they

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01:28:35,239 --> 01:28:38,560
did not go along with a false union, you would

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01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:38,960
be fine.

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01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:47,159
Speaker 27: Okay, So how likely do you think the Greek Church

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01:28:47,279 --> 01:28:50,359
is to separate from the rest of the Orthodox Church.

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01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,319
Speaker 5: I mean it's hard to say. It's probably pretty likely though,

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01:28:56,359 --> 01:28:59,680
because it doesn't look like I mean, it's basically subservient

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01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,840
to the state department. So he's going to do whatever

1422
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,800
he's told to do. It's not it's not about like

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01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,279
the theology. People think. This is all about you know,

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01:29:07,359 --> 01:29:10,720
who's got the right theology, theology secondary, it's all geopolitics.

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01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 10: Yeah. And the other thing too, is that I agree

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,119
with Jay, it's definitely likely.

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01:29:20,039 --> 01:29:23,359
Speaker 22: The question is, and we know that there's going to

1428
01:29:23,399 --> 01:29:26,159
be an apostle see any union, we just don't know when.

1429
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:30,920
So is it likely really soon, and you know, I

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01:29:31,079 --> 01:29:32,359
just want to encourage everybody.

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01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:34,520
Speaker 10: Everybody's filled with fear.

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01:29:36,359 --> 01:29:40,960
Speaker 22: I'm optimistic about We're told, you know, prophecies by the Saints,

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01:29:41,239 --> 01:29:45,920
and right, I don't lose any sleepover this, Like I

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01:29:46,159 --> 01:29:49,600
know that it's going to be fine. Like, and that's

1435
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,079
just that, you know, these things happen with we're told

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01:29:52,119 --> 01:29:56,800
they're going to happen. I doubt anything is I mean,

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01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:57,680
I shouldn't.

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01:29:57,279 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 10: Say I doubt. I wouldn't say it's highly like that

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01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:02,359
this is going to happen right now.

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01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,319
Speaker 22: It could just be all kind of fluff working towards that,

1441
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,319
But it's nothing to lose sleepover.

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01:30:08,399 --> 01:30:12,199
Speaker 10: And people are like really worried, and I'm like, don't

1443
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,439
don't let it worry. You'll be fine.

1444
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:22,239
Speaker 22: Like there's we have fourteen different patriarch patriots, patriots, patriots.

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01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 5: They're all maga. We got fourteen patriots.

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01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:33,079
Speaker 28: They're listen, they're all maga. Probably are fourteen patriots, probably

1447
01:30:33,159 --> 01:30:36,359
the best patriots out there, all of my favorite patriarchs.

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01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:45,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, from the College of Apostles. But I mean, look,

1449
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:46,680
I was just looking at it.

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01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 22: It's like not everybody's good rest was definitely not gonna

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01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:49,359
go along with.

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01:30:49,399 --> 01:30:50,159
Speaker 10: That for Georgia.

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01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,159
Speaker 22: You know, if this were to happen, it's hard to

1454
01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:58,359
say about Antioch. Antioch is based. But what people don't

1455
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:04,680
realize is they're under the yoke of and threat of

1456
01:31:05,079 --> 01:31:07,319
the CI and stage crime because they control al Qaeda.

1457
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:13,039
So notice how al Kaida now has like its under

1458
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:17,600
control of the CIA and in Syria and everything's five.

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01:31:18,039 --> 01:31:20,439
Speaker 5: Yeah see I like you said, see, I could say, uh,

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01:31:21,039 --> 01:31:23,000
sure you sure you don't want isis coming in on

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01:31:23,159 --> 01:31:25,720
your uh you know your Antioch churches.

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01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:29,199
Speaker 22: There, Yeah, isis Yeah, exactly, So everybody's like, oh, I'm

1463
01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:32,159
an address rom like, don't be so naive that. And

1464
01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:37,600
like you said, Jay, everybody thinks, whether it's politics or

1465
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,920
the church, at the lowest level, it's just about theology.

1466
01:31:41,119 --> 01:31:45,199
And see their theology, it's like you're not it's geopolitics first.

1467
01:31:46,279 --> 01:31:51,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, for the power elite theology is secondary. That's just

1468
01:31:51,279 --> 01:31:54,279
a tool that can be u sort of attached onto

1469
01:31:55,159 --> 01:31:57,880
the soft power or even perhaps the hard power. If

1470
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:02,119
it's like if there was like an actual newsra Isis

1471
01:32:02,399 --> 01:32:05,279
type of an attack. But but they're all pretty much

1472
01:32:05,279 --> 01:32:07,720
the same anyway, like Isis, al Kaeda, al Nusra, they're

1473
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:09,760
all just rebrands of the same stuff, and they are

1474
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,079
all allied with uh, you know, Israel and the CIA

1475
01:32:13,279 --> 01:32:17,600
so openly. By the way, Uh just look up Timber

1476
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,840
Sycamore that was all declassified recently. That's just CIA billion

1477
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:25,880
dollar project to overthrow Asad and put Joelani in and

1478
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,399
then Jolani is invited to Washington, d C. To meet

1479
01:32:28,399 --> 01:32:30,359
with the rabbis and Trump.

1480
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 22: And all these you or was a cotel that was

1481
01:32:33,079 --> 01:32:36,640
doing playing that stream of that Jewish guy just.

1482
01:32:38,279 --> 01:32:42,359
Speaker 19: Uh basically saying like, yeah, we control like.

1483
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,600
Speaker 5: Me you're talking about you're talking about the Al Jazeera

1484
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:48,920
interview with the former head of Massade saying that yeah,

1485
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:50,560
well he was like he looked.

1486
01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:51,279
Speaker 10: Like a younger guy.

1487
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 19: He was like speak.

1488
01:32:53,039 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 10: I don't know if he was a young rabbi or

1489
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:55,399
something like this.

1490
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,319
Speaker 5: Oh maybe it was told yeah, I'll.

1491
01:32:58,119 --> 01:33:00,520
Speaker 10: Have to find it was actually there. It's just saying

1492
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:02,520
it right there, like, why are people giving us a

1493
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:03,720
hard time? But that's crazy.

1494
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 5: Well the other thing too, is look about this false union.

1495
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:12,000
Like people are saying the chat. Most of the people

1496
01:33:12,039 --> 01:33:14,000
who are a laity that we've met over the last

1497
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,119
several years that are serious about their faith. No, but

1498
01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:18,840
they don't want this. Nobody wants this. The only people

1499
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,039
that want this would be like corrupt a humanist bishops

1500
01:33:22,079 --> 01:33:25,319
and people that are in sort of political positions that

1501
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,439
are like the arcons or whatever, that are putting pressure

1502
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,560
for this for their own personal reasons. So the people

1503
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,399
that actually care about the theology are absolutely not going

1504
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,640
to go along with this. So the good thing about

1505
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:39,079
this is that this is like a winnowing fan that

1506
01:33:39,119 --> 01:33:41,159
will separate the week from the chaff. And you'll notice

1507
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,000
the people that go along with it are a bunch

1508
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,359
of people who are going to want all the faking

1509
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:50,640
gay stuff, like the literal faking gay stuff. So it's

1510
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,119
a good thing. This is like cleaning the house. Yeah,

1511
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:56,880
go to Rome, Like this will actually show like who

1512
01:33:57,039 --> 01:33:59,159
the you know, serious people and the fake people are.

1513
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,239
So now I'm not saying it's good, Tavisk, we don't

1514
01:34:02,239 --> 01:34:05,680
want that. But at the same time, you know, it's

1515
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:12,880
like God's chastisements bring the division, the good division, separating

1516
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,359
the week from the chaff. That's a good division. So

1517
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,079
the people who are accumnists, by the way they act

1518
01:34:17,159 --> 01:34:20,720
like all division is bad. Oh, well that's not biblical

1519
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:22,960
because God says all the time, I will separate the

1520
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,800
week from the Jeff, I have a remnant that of

1521
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:27,039
not vowed to eat the bail. So it sounds to

1522
01:34:27,119 --> 01:34:30,560
me like division in many cases is actually good. But

1523
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,199
these people play word games and act like all division

1524
01:34:33,359 --> 01:34:36,920
is bad. They're so divisive. Oh Jay Dyer, Oh the

1525
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:42,319
father Hears, Oh, the Metropolitans of Roquere, they're all divisive.

1526
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:46,800
Vogiat aias is a divisive person. Well, if you're dividing

1527
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,840
about something good, that's actually a good thing. Sometimes you

1528
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,960
need to divide. That's what these people are just retarded about.

1529
01:34:54,039 --> 01:34:58,079
But guys, you.

1530
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 23: Brought this up in your second part of the Changing

1531
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:04,239
Images of Man is one of the key components of

1532
01:35:04,359 --> 01:35:07,039
the future is going to be what the world chemical.

1533
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,079
Speaker 5: Of churches Exactly. There's a whole section on World Council

1534
01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:13,760
churches and the creation of a new World religion. Exactly.

1535
01:35:14,319 --> 01:35:18,039
The new world religion is perennialism. Why perennialism, Well, that's

1536
01:35:18,119 --> 01:35:22,079
the religion that ultimately can combine all the religions and

1537
01:35:22,359 --> 01:35:31,079
thus overcome divisiveness. Exactly. Oh, by the way, talk to

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our boys, seatan over at talk. I've got good news.

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a chalk pope joke, but I can't think of anything,

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so should do it?

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Speaker 10: J J six ts joke.

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01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 5: Oh, now you're trying to get my streams taking down, Drew.

1560
01:37:03,079 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 10: If you guys took this stuff, he stopped being so scared.

1561
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,199
Speaker 5: No, as people in the chat are saying, the poors

1562
01:37:10,279 --> 01:37:14,439
are winning now at the pores. You don't know. So

1563
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:16,720
I made this joke on the stream the other night

1564
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,720
because people don't people. There was a lot of people

1565
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,000
in the chad didn't know this. So the famous comedian

1566
01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:24,399
Tom Segura, once he got really kind of big and popular,

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01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,000
he started getting kind of snooty with his audience and

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01:37:27,079 --> 01:37:30,399
calling them poors, and his whole audience turned on him.

1569
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,319
And so now every time he goes on a podcast,

1570
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,399
all the comments are people making fun of him and

1571
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,560
just saying, oh, we're so blessed as a member of

1572
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:40,880
the poors to be able to hear you know, Tom

1573
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,279
Sigura's comedy or whatever. So now I started making jokes

1574
01:37:43,319 --> 01:37:46,640
because they weren't commenting, they weren't super chatting. I was calling, heyboy,

1575
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,680
the pores because they didn't super chatt so they were

1576
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:53,600
having to prove that they weren't poors by commenting, excuse me,

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by super chatting. So shout out to all the poors

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1582
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 6: You know?

1583
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 10: What up?

1584
01:38:14,079 --> 01:38:14,199
Speaker 23: Jay?

1585
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,079
Speaker 5: Well? People in the chat are saying, how do I

1586
01:38:18,159 --> 01:38:18,439
call in?

1587
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 29: Uh?

1588
01:38:19,079 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 5: What you call in? Through Twitter? So here's the link

1589
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,079
right here. It's in the show description. Call in there

1590
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:25,760
on the xpace? What's on your mind?

1591
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 10: Drew?

1592
01:38:27,279 --> 01:38:31,159
Speaker 30: I don't know if you've heard, but Ibara is completely

1593
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,479
swaggerjacking you, and he has started doing.

1594
01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:41,199
Speaker 5: Impressions, impressions, impressions of what cupcakes and pohos and ding dongs.

1595
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 10: He leaves them in the ground when he walks.

1596
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 5: Oh, that was a pretty good singer there. That did

1597
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,960
not go with the direction. I thought that was funny. Yeah,

1598
01:38:53,720 --> 01:38:53,960
I was.

1599
01:38:54,119 --> 01:38:56,640
Speaker 10: Have you read Uh? I read a book a while

1600
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,520
back and started listening to you. It reminded me of it.

1601
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,760
Have you read The Forgotten five hundred?

1602
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 13: No?

1603
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:03,199
Speaker 6: What is that?

1604
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 31: UH?

1605
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:11,279
Speaker 10: It's about? It's not like a super UH textual book.

1606
01:39:11,319 --> 01:39:14,560
Speaker 30: It's just kind of a story about UH rescuing down

1607
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:20,239
uh US airmen in Yugoslavia during World War two. Uh,

1608
01:39:20,319 --> 01:39:24,840
but it's pretty interesting because it talks about the uh,

1609
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,239
the battling factions between uh, you know O S S

1610
01:39:29,399 --> 01:39:32,359
and M I six type guys that are.

1611
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 26: It's uh me highlev it and it's about the rise

1612
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:38,319
to uh the power of Tito, and.

1613
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 10: It talks about UH.

1614
01:39:46,079 --> 01:39:48,239
Speaker 30: And M I five guys like actually trying to kill

1615
01:39:48,279 --> 01:39:51,760
each other because they're trying to you know, promote communism.

1616
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,039
Speaker 5: There nice, Uh tell me exactly I'm writing. I'm writing

1617
01:39:55,079 --> 01:39:56,279
down the title. Tell me it again.

1618
01:39:58,359 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 10: The forgotten five hundred.

1619
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 5: More than uh you're you're cutting out, So I'm gonna

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appreciate that I've forgotten five hundred. Yeah. I like anything

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01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,800
to do with you know, OSS type stuff and M

1622
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,960
I six, So I will definitely get ahold of I

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01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,199
appreciate that if you get a better connection, you want

1624
01:40:18,239 --> 01:40:20,479
to make more points, feel free to call it again.

1625
01:40:21,359 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 10: There's a channel that just plays like NonStop James Bond.

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01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:27,720
So I've been binging on that.

1627
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 5: Oh like the films.

1628
01:40:30,279 --> 01:40:33,199
Speaker 22: Yeah, although like every single one, Like I'll fall asleep

1629
01:40:33,279 --> 01:40:36,079
to it just watching you know, the old ones, all

1630
01:40:36,119 --> 01:40:36,960
the different Yeah.

1631
01:40:38,279 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 5: I have a book called That's Our colleagueen, you should

1632
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,880
check it out because I write I write about there's

1633
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:48,560
a whole like eighty pages on the James. So here's

1634
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,520
what I was referring to people who don't get this joke.

1635
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:50,920
Here's this.

1636
01:40:53,279 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 32: Actually went. A clip from the show went viral. Yeah,

1637
01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:04,039
that was about wash cloths, like it was everywhere. It

1638
01:41:04,119 --> 01:41:08,119
was a world star. It was on Black Culture News.

1639
01:41:09,159 --> 01:41:12,840
I got tagged fucking ten thousand times.

1640
01:41:13,880 --> 01:41:16,399
Speaker 5: So this, on the one hand, it's kind of unfair.

1641
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,399
I mean, I've never actually listened to Thomsiger's comedy, so

1642
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,359
I don't even know if he's funny. I don't. I'm not.

1643
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:26,680
But he's more known now for this viral thing. Oh

1644
01:41:26,720 --> 01:41:30,720
my gosh, this spam calls orde me crazy. He's more

1645
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,479
known for this sort of viral thing now, which is unfortunate.

1646
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:36,359
If you're like a stand up, how easily you could

1647
01:41:36,399 --> 01:41:40,399
be sort of quasi canceled. However, he didn't handle this

1648
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:45,199
right because he like went in a worst direction with

1649
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,479
sort of it was probably meant to be a joke

1650
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,840
initially calling people the poors like, he probably meant it

1651
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:52,560
in a joky way, let's see what he says, but

1652
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:54,039
it backfired.

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01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:55,920
Speaker 32: And It was from an episode that was actually had

1654
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,399
already aired like a few weeks or a month prior

1655
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,640
or something, and people snipped this clip of us talking

1656
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:04,680
about washcloths being for poors.

1657
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,239
Speaker 33: This morning, I washed my legs.

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01:42:08,039 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 5: Because it sounds like a joke, right, like, oh, you

1659
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,720
have a washcloth or you one of the pores. And

1660
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,600
then it's like everybody like, try to cancel them of

1661
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:15,800
those in.

1662
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,199
Speaker 33: My feet in the shower?

1663
01:42:17,359 --> 01:42:17,960
Speaker 5: Did you really?

1664
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:24,239
Speaker 33: Yeah, so I'm opposed to it still, kay, did you

1665
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:25,159
try it even yet?

1666
01:42:25,239 --> 01:42:26,079
Speaker 5: No, I'm not going to do it.

1667
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,680
Speaker 33: Well, you're just you're just anti black.

1668
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 32: No, I don't think it's a black thing. I think

1669
01:42:32,079 --> 01:42:34,680
using washcloth is for poor people, but I don't think

1670
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:35,920
that washing your legs.

1671
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 5: And feet is for black people.

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01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,199
Speaker 33: I agree, I think the washcloth is a poor person

1673
01:42:40,039 --> 01:42:42,319
thing because I've.

1674
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,359
Speaker 32: Only met pors who use them. You know what's funny

1675
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:46,399
is that it started. I think, you go, do you

1676
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,479
wash your legs and feet? I go, No, I'm not black,

1677
01:42:50,039 --> 01:42:53,720
because on a previous episode we talked about who washes

1678
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,399
their legs and feet? And I think it was only

1679
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:56,479
any that said he did.

1680
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,319
Speaker 5: See that's in the context of comedy, which is kind

1681
01:43:01,359 --> 01:43:04,880
of unfortunately. Now again he probably wasn't being a douchebag

1682
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:08,680
about it, but like that is kind of funny actually, but.

1683
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 16: He wasn't there that day clearly well and he's the

1684
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:17,279
only one here who took the day off, washes his

1685
01:43:17,439 --> 01:43:19,640
legs and feet making a shout out to any but

1686
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:23,920
he wasn't there anyway, this clip, I was like, you know,

1687
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:25,880
in the clip, I go, no, I don't think it's

1688
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,920
for but I do think it's for ports.

1689
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 32: I got to think, you know, cool people use mash

1690
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:33,119
glass and dude, it went everywhere and a lot of

1691
01:43:33,159 --> 01:43:40,039
people commented, I mean a lot notable people like rappers, actors,

1692
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:41,840
you know, activists.

1693
01:43:42,119 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 5: So here's the crazy thing about it. And again I'm

1694
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:46,319
not saying that Thompson girl wasn't being a douchebag about it.

1695
01:43:46,399 --> 01:43:50,079
The crazy thing is that you can now cancel people

1696
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,640
with an out of context clip of ten seconds that

1697
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,119
goes viral and then like all of the masses of people,

1698
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,039
they don't go double checked see if it's accurate. They

1699
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:03,800
just go by that. And again, like I have plenty

1700
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,439
of criticisms with Trump, but they did this with Trump.

1701
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,720
Remember with his uh the comments about him supporting the

1702
01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:14,520
people at Charlottesville. That was out of context. Trump pays Mexicans,

1703
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:15,479
that's out of context.

1704
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:21,039
Speaker 10: What Well, it's the persepecuity of clips. That's the clips.

1705
01:44:21,159 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 5: Just say what they they mean what they say, and

1706
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,239
they say what they mean, right, Why.

1707
01:44:26,199 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 10: Would you we need context? And look further, this persecuity

1708
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:30,520
of clips.

1709
01:44:32,239 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 5: Well, uh, I've had it happened a couple of times,

1710
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:38,439
Like so far nobody has like clipped me out of context.

1711
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,720
But I think I'm sure, like if Lord Willing the

1712
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:42,920
audience continues to grow, I'm sure that's going to happen

1713
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:44,600
where they're going to find some old clip and may

1714
01:44:44,680 --> 01:44:47,119
being you know, act and retarded. I mean, look at

1715
01:44:47,159 --> 01:44:47,479
this guy.

1716
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:48,479
Speaker 23: He's gay.

1717
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,720
Speaker 5: Look he's gay. He makes a gay joke, he says

1718
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:51,479
he's gay right here.

1719
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:57,239
Speaker 32: Big time blacks like yeah, the games, Wow, really I

1720
01:44:57,319 --> 01:44:57,920
even know that.

1721
01:44:58,479 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 3: I know that is yeah.

1722
01:45:00,079 --> 01:45:02,560
Speaker 32: Yeah he was like the smell like hot dog water.

1723
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,359
Speaker 33: That's amazing, I.

1724
01:45:07,119 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 32: Tell you, the only like super disappointing thing. A couple

1725
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:14,479
of comedians were like, uh, what's this all about?

1726
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 33: And I'm like, you don't you don't run out?

1727
01:45:18,199 --> 01:45:20,199
Speaker 23: No, no, like you don't under you don't.

1728
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 32: I don't even want to explain it, like you don't

1729
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:25,680
see what's going on, Like you don't follow this. I mean,

1730
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:29,560
the next sentence, I was like, I've I've ended friendships

1731
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:30,439
over wash class.

1732
01:45:32,319 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 5: I've ended friendships when I saw wash class. I'm serious.

1733
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:39,520
It's so weird to be able to cancel people just

1734
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:43,920
buy a little clip that goes viral and everyone just

1735
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,880
assumes like, oh, yeah, that person is evil now. But

1736
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:49,439
now he may have been a douchebag about his poorest comment.

1737
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,880
But like everybody went like, crazy.

1738
01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 10: Well I made a joke. Well, they're probably gonna clip me.

1739
01:45:56,960 --> 01:46:00,359
I made jokes about how poverty is a solution everything.

1740
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,600
It's like, you can't afford rent, well, poverty, you won't

1741
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:06,319
have to worry about it. You worrying about.

1742
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 22: Social political poverty, you won't be worrying about I mean,

1743
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,119
we could go through the list of like how much

1744
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:19,680
things poverty actually solves, which is interesting because it's the

1745
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,800
inverse of the leftoid lift everybody out of poverty. I

1746
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,640
got the idea that I'm like, well, wait a minute,

1747
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:29,680
it's actually backwards. We wouldn't have any problems. Do you

1748
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,920
think that we'd have any problems with immigration?

1749
01:46:32,199 --> 01:46:36,279
Speaker 10: If everybody was poor, nobody want to come here like,

1750
01:46:36,359 --> 01:46:38,359
think about it. It's really good. Now somebody's gonna clip

1751
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:39,159
that and I'm going.

1752
01:46:39,159 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 6: To be out of here.

1753
01:46:41,159 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, yes, somebody at a good point. No,

1754
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:45,600
the Diamond Brothers actually clipped you out of context, that's correct.

1755
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,800
They did. They took a picture of me being a

1756
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,800
metal head on a stream and they said I was

1757
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,359
being a transvest because I had a way going. That's

1758
01:46:53,359 --> 01:46:53,920
so stupid.

1759
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,279
Speaker 22: My favorite one from the Diamond Brothers is the Orthodox

1760
01:46:57,319 --> 01:46:58,720
are responsible for Pearl Harbor?

1761
01:46:59,720 --> 01:47:00,520
Speaker 5: Are you in serious?

1762
01:47:01,199 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 10: You didn't see unless somebody was joking.

1763
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:05,520
Speaker 5: It was in our minds. I don't I don't watch

1764
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,199
I don't watch any of their stuff. I didn't see that.

1765
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:11,159
Speaker 10: Hey, I'm gonna let you go. Thanks for having me on, Jay.

1766
01:47:11,239 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate you have Arista. What's up, dog?

1767
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:19,239
Do you want to I'm mute?

1768
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:20,359
Speaker 10: Yeah, of course.

1769
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 5: Hey.

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01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 34: J So I recently got a the log Study Bible,

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01:47:24,119 --> 01:47:27,119
and in one of the passages they were talking about

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01:47:27,159 --> 01:47:30,359
how they correlate Ezekiel forty four and the Eastgate Passage

1773
01:47:30,399 --> 01:47:34,520
to Mary, and I was just wondering, how did they

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01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:38,119
translate the literal brick and mortar temple to Mary.

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01:47:38,359 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 10: And how do they explain the part where he's going.

1776
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 34: To exit the same way he came in if he

1777
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:45,920
entered spiritually and exited earthly.

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01:47:49,159 --> 01:47:51,680
Speaker 5: I mean, the temple itself isn't a real temple. It's

1779
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:54,520
a temple that's spiritual. It's another image of the Church.

1780
01:47:56,239 --> 01:47:58,800
A lot of biblical symbols are multi valent, so it's

1781
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,840
not Mary or the Church, it's both. So the temple

1782
01:48:01,880 --> 01:48:03,840
in Ezekiel and the temple in the Book of Revelation

1783
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,800
are both the Church, and they can also be an

1784
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:09,640
image of Mary herself, because Jesus says, destroy this temple,

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01:48:10,159 --> 01:48:11,680
and in three days I will rebuild it. So the

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01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,399
temple can also be an image of Jesus's own physical body.

1787
01:48:16,159 --> 01:48:18,479
So it's both and right. So he comes into the

1788
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,199
temple Mary as the Temple, and he exits the temple

1789
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,239
as the Son of God. So it's not spiritual or physical,

1790
01:48:26,319 --> 01:48:30,319
it's both. He comes into Mary as the Son of God,

1791
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,039
breathed by the Holy Spirit. He takes on flesh from Mary,

1792
01:48:34,119 --> 01:48:36,840
he gets his human nature from her, and then he

1793
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,439
exits her in the sense of the virgin birth, without

1794
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,840
her losing her virginity. Thus she's ever virgin. So it's

1795
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,039
of both and and he'll notice that a lot of

1796
01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:50,159
biblical symbology operates that way. I see some dude just

1797
01:48:50,239 --> 01:48:54,159
laughing hard. What's up, dude? What's so funny? We haven't

1798
01:48:54,159 --> 01:48:56,720
had any disagreeers yet today where the disagree is at

1799
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,479
sin say to you, dis I see you every time

1800
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,319
somebody like is hitting the emoji, like spurging out with

1801
01:49:04,399 --> 01:49:14,279
the emoji, I know they got an issue. I'm mute, sense,

1802
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:25,319
I'm mute. Are you there? It's funny. The first thing

1803
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,359
kat Van d said to me when we went over

1804
01:49:27,399 --> 01:49:30,319
to her place was she was like, I was listening

1805
01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:36,760
to your open calls. Those people are so dumb. I

1806
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:39,199
was like, all right, you're cool. I like you already.

1807
01:49:39,239 --> 01:49:41,239
That was like the first thing she said, what's up? Sense?

1808
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 10: Are you there?

1809
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 5: She was talking about the average sort of like disagree

1810
01:49:50,079 --> 01:49:53,920
or debate callers. She wasn't talking about literally everybody hun her.

1811
01:49:54,399 --> 01:49:55,680
It was just a funny comment. That was like the

1812
01:49:55,720 --> 01:50:07,560
first thing she said, Hanini, what's up, dude? M M, yeah,

1813
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:07,920
what's up?

1814
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:11,239
Speaker 10: Can you me? Okay?

1815
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:13,560
Speaker 6: All right? Thank you?

1816
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,039
Speaker 15: Your space keeps them.

1817
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 5: Quite up by the way. I don't know why, but

1818
01:50:17,159 --> 01:50:18,760
it's because of a stupid ass.

1819
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:20,520
Speaker 29: Uh uh.

1820
01:50:25,159 --> 01:50:27,520
Speaker 5: Spam call. There's a spam colleague. He's coming there and

1821
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:27,840
go ahead.

1822
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:31,199
Speaker 15: Oh okay, cool. First of all, thank you for your content.

1823
01:50:31,239 --> 01:50:32,039
I really enjoy it.

1824
01:50:32,239 --> 01:50:35,520
Speaker 17: I was watching your Trinity in the Old Testament of

1825
01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,199
the year, but it was really interesting as well.

1826
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1827
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:40,640
Speaker 15: I just wanted to ask her. So I come from

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01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:42,840
a I guess because it's a background.

1829
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 17: And one of the others you spoke about how it's

1830
01:50:47,319 --> 01:50:51,640
heretical to say that Christ died for arsens.

1831
01:50:51,399 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 15: Or something like that.

1832
01:50:52,159 --> 01:50:55,439
Speaker 17: I wasn't I can't remember it what you said. Oh sorry,

1833
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,119
and he's a human nature to be clear, or something

1834
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:01,279
like that. I couldn't remember it properly. But I guess

1835
01:51:02,119 --> 01:51:02,680
how would it be.

1836
01:51:03,159 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 5: Of course, Christ side for our sins. I don't know

1837
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:05,279
what you mean.

1838
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:06,239
Speaker 6: He did.

1839
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 5: He did everything that he did. He did it in

1840
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,279
both natures at once. It's not I mean, the divinity

1841
01:51:11,399 --> 01:51:15,199
is impassable. The divine nature doesn't suffer. The suffering that

1842
01:51:15,319 --> 01:51:18,439
occurs is the divine person of the word undergoes the

1843
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,039
severance of his human soul from his human body. That's death.

1844
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:23,880
Speaker 17: Okay, I think next time I should have got the

1845
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:26,640
exact that's the exact, the exact quote for it.

1846
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 15: So in the position, could you just fish out to

1847
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,359
me a bit more how he actually works.

1848
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 5: By the way, to the people in the chat cat

1849
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,479
BANDI was not calling everybody dumb and people are so

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freaking sensitive and retarded. Dude, she's talking about the people

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that call in to debate are dumb, not every caller.

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So what exactly do you do You want to get

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specific about what happens is on the cross orsition?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, about like how salvation works.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I've got a bunch of videos on that

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that would kind of flesh it out more detail. I'm

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not going to like rehearse all of that at once,

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but I mean, essentially, the divine person of the word

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assumes human nature to destroy the power of death over

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that fallen nature by going into Hades and dispelling the

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devil of the power that he had over death and hades,

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by taking that back, resurrecting that nature and deifying it

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such that by participating in his deified flesh through Eucharus,

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we can overcome the passions and attain to the resurrection.

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Speaker 15: Okay, okay, And that doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 10: Another one I.

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Speaker 5: Did have about by the way, the best thing, I

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would say, the best thing on that topic in TOTO

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that I've done is actually if you go down, if

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you go to my page and you scroll down on

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my YouTube channel to the very bottom, there's an entire

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playlist where I work through John Damascus, Saint John Damascus

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is on the Orthodox Faith. So it's called traditional philosophy metaphysics.

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If you start here and you work all the way

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over here to about eight episodes in that covers the

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totality of all that stuff.

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Speaker 15: Okay, cool, okay, I will check that out.

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Speaker 10: Thank you for that.

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Speaker 5: Sure.

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Speaker 17: I just wanted to talk about tongues as well. So

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I guess growing up for like ten years, roughly ten years,

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I always thought, you know, tongues was the I guess,

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not to anyone but the version that we see in

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the Pentecostal churches.

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Speaker 15: But that for me as well read in scripture, I

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see it's not the case.

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Speaker 20: So is it.

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Speaker 17: Do you think that, I guess, the tongues when it

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comes to foreign languages has ceased altogether or do you

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still see that in the Orthodox Church?

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Speaker 5: No, I mean it's like we have a guy in

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our church that knows multiple languages. He is blessed with

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the gift of tongues.

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Speaker 17: Oh okay, okay, So it's not like an outbreak like

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like how it happens that Pentecost.

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Speaker 5: Well, Pentecost isn't gibberish or quote angel language, which will

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mean which would be totally pointless because no humans, no

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angel language. Will be no point in people speaking gibberish

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angel language. But no, it's it's known language. The miracle

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of Pentecost is everyone hearing the Gospel in their native tongue. Right,

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So it's a known language. It's not unknown. And that's

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the nonsense that the charismatics come up with. Yeah, okay,

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so tongue is languages, and that's why it's a reverse

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and it has to be rational and coherent because it's

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the reversal of Babel. So if you go to the

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Pentecost liturgy and Orthodox Church, the liturgy is self stresses

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that it's the reversal of the confusion of Babel or

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nesto what's up name? But by the way, shout out

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to all the clips channels, because they're actually clipping together

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really good, key crucial stuff so that people don't have

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to spend forever searching for for example, what is the

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explanation and of tongues. Well, Dire Central has a great

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collation that they've done right here six months ago on

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charismatic pentecostal. Here's a charismatic debate refuted. Here's Jay dire refutes.

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So it turns out now that all these clip channels

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are just like clips maxing in an awesome way. Here's

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a whole fifty thousand four hour stream refuting charismatic stuff.

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So be sure and go check out the reputation of

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this stuff on these streams. The clip channels have made

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it very easy and by the way, also fascinating development.

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Kyle is handing over dire clips to me. And what's

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interesting about dire clips that I didn't know this is

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pretty wild. The only reason Kyle's doing that is that

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shout out to Kyle. He's married and having his first

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child on the way, so as a man, he is

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now birthing a man baby. He's having a butt baby

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because he's a man giving birth to it. And I'm joking.

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He's married to a girl and they're now having their

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first child. Turns out, when Kyle was in college, he

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would like every few nights listen to a live stream

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and create a clip. Kyle has scheduled clips every month

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until twenty thirty. I was blown away, as dude, are

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you serious? Like you did all this work and he

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didn't even monetize it, which is which is because when

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I was demonetized, I told Kyle that he you can't

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monetize it because of you. If YouTube thinks that is

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my channel, they'll delete my channel. But now that we're remonetized,

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we're going to monetize it, and I will give Kyle

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a cut because of all his hard work. But I

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mean talk about like a dedicated, disciplined dude, like who

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clips to twenty thirty and schedules it every month until

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twenty thirty. I was like, Kyle, that's awesome, man. So

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everybody should be go follow Kyle because that's pretty awesome,

1944
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and go follow dire clips because nobody even has to

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do anything until twenty thirty because dire clips will have

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clips until twenty thirty. What's up R nowto.

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Speaker 29: Hey, Jay Amen, I had a quick question for you,

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and it's a question about the Eucharist, and I wanted

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to get you to take because I was having a

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back and forth with.

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Speaker 10: A friend of mine and he's arguing.

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Speaker 29: Basically that when in the Eastern Orthodox religion, when it

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talks about the bread and wine becoming the flesh and

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blood of Christ, it's an actual flesh, like physically so,

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and it's an actual blood. And I'm interpreting, like from

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Jonathan Maysk is is like he's physically present, it's an

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actual thing, but it's not.

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Speaker 10: It doesn't biologically or like structure.

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a mystery. It's a mystery. And that's

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why the liturgy says, are the rational bloodless sacrifice, So

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it's not resacrificing Christ as if there's a bunch of

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like actual blood that's going to pour out. It is

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the real presence of Christ. It is it is his

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true deified flesh present, but it is not a re

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sacrificing of Christ. Hence this rational bloodless offering, as the

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priest says in the liturgy, great question, uh el yasha.

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Really the only way to understand the Eucharist is through

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the essence inter distinction. And I think this is one

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of the strongest arguments that that you know, especially towards

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a Catholic like you guys believe in you know, created

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supernatural grace, whatever that is. What's up?

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Speaker 29: Hi?

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Speaker 10: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 5: Yes, ma'am?

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Speaker 10: How are you great?

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Speaker 31: I just want to start by saying thanks for all

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your content. It's been really informational and yeah, completely changed

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me and my husband's outlook on Christianity. We've been Protestants

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for our whole life, So thanks for that.

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Speaker 10: I wanted to.

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Speaker 31: Ask you specifically, like, we're looking to go to an

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Orthodox church, but there's like four different ones in.

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Speaker 10: The closest city.

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Speaker 31: So I guess my question is, like, how how do

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I parse out which church is not compromised?

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Speaker 10: I guess I don't.

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Speaker 31: I don't know really anything about the Orthodox Church, but

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I've been seeing.

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Speaker 5: The Yeah, what I would do, right, what I would

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do is visit them all and you'll get a sense

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of which one is, like, you know, the right fit

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for you. And if you hear just non based off

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you'll know, Okay, this is not a a good Orthodox church.

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But it tends to be the case that ro Corps

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Serbs Antiochians Romanians, they tend to be more on the

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Bay side versus the non Bays. But again, there can

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be good Oca perishes, there can be good Greek perishes.

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It really just depends on it's it's it's it's not

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so much a jurisdictional issue. I mean it is somewhat,

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but it's more so a local issue because you can

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have a ro Corp church as bad. I mean, there's

2002
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there's bad people everywhere. So uh yeah, just test, go

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to them all and then give it, give it some

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time and see which one vibes with you the best. Jerry,

2005
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:40,720
what's up? So hush tone says for ten dollars people

2006
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turn on Tom Sigurro because they were clowning on him

2007
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about his complaints about starbuck Stall book Starbucks and him

2008
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complaining about expensive cars. Then he went on a rant

2009
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calling everybody in his fan base the pores. Okay, I

2010
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didn't know that part. I thought it was just like

2011
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a joke within the podcast about washcloths, but apparently he

2012
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doubled down on uh the pores. What's up? Jerry?

2013
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Speaker 27: Do you want to unmute? Yeah, sir, I just had

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one more question. If it's too spiritual, just let me know.

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But so near me there's the Greek.

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Speaker 10: Archidasses and the Coptic Church.

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Speaker 27: I already know that you don't think the Coptics have

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val valid sacraments because they're on Casadentian. Wait what, I well,

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the Coptics on Casadentian. So I'm assuming you don't think

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the sacraments of valid.

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Speaker 5: Uh well, validity is more of a Roman Catholic concept.

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We just talked about whether they're efficacious or not, and no,

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we don't think that the sacraments are afflicationous.

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Speaker 27: Okay, So with the efficaciousness of any effect on the

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sanctify like the sanctification effect.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're they're not efficacious. You can't do the Orthodox

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litter or sacraments without the blessing, for example, of an

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Orthodox priest or bishop. Right, So in other words, in

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the Orthodox Church, like if an Orthodox priest wents to

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do the Divine Liturgy but he didn't have the blessing

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of the bishop, it's not an Orthodox liturgy. So if

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that's true within the church, it's much more true outside

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of the church. Roman Catholics don't have the blessing of

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an Orthodox bishop to do their liturgy, so it's not

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a liturgy.

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Speaker 27: Yep, all right, Yeah, I'm gonna talk to the priests

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at the Greek church to see what side he's leaning,

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but the the whole reunion.

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Speaker 5: Thing going on.

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Speaker 27: But if he does happen to move towards like the

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Union side, the Union side, I'll be like away from

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churches that have efficacious sacraments.

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Speaker 5: Well, I would not worry about that too much because

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like Trustan is in a similar situation and Ecuador, and

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you know, all that's around him is Roccallay churches. But

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Tristan was able still to be baptized by a Serbian

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Orthodox priest. It was eight hours away. So if Tristan

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can arrange being baptized by somebody eight hours away, everybody

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can do it. And if you can't do the best

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you can, like we're not we're not psycho freaks. Like

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God knows your heart, knows your intention. If you're doing

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the best you can, that's all you can do. Into

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02:03:28,279 --> 02:03:33,079
the furnace, what's up, man? I still was trying to

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figure out exactly what the drama is.

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Speaker 35: Oh, it'll be interesting to watch Tom Sigarette try to

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avoid becoming the next Brandon shop And you can tell

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he's definitely aware of the growing sentiment towards him, and

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I think he realized trying to dismiss the criticism as

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people just being losers and poors probably isn't the best idea.

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I mean still, whenever he does a podcast appearance, the

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top comment will be somebody making fun of him for

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either's airport meltdown or just to comment referencing the poors.

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So I think the poors definitely got the best of him,

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and now Tom knows being some arrogant, elitist, rich guy

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in comedy doesn't work very well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, comedy has to appeal to the working

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class or else is not gonna work, right. I mean

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that that was a huge blunder if that's what he

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did according to the hush I mean, I'm not saying

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hushtones is wrong. I'm just saying I haven't really kept

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up with this. I just remember hearing that there was

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some sort of drama over calling the people the poors.

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By the way. I'm obviously this audience is smart enough

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to know that I'm joking when I say everyone's pores.

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By the way. In order to prove that you're not

2076
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part of the poors, you must super chat because we

2077
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only have a small amount of super chat revenue today,

2078
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:47,199
and I can't keep going if you guys don't support

2079
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me in super chat, Get our real job, says the Moomer.

2080
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Who made you?

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Speaker 6: What made you?

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Speaker 5: What made you think that live streaming was not a

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02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:02,520
real job? Zorib says for two dollars and fifty cents, Jay,

2084
02:05:03,199 --> 02:05:07,720
no one should terrify their neighbor. Jay will not be undone.

2085
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:11,199
He's playing pranks on everyone. There we go. He gets it.

2086
02:05:11,319 --> 02:05:13,880
Jonas ten dollars. Thank you for what you've done, all

2087
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:16,359
this work. It helped me up with upcoming questions. I'm

2088
02:05:16,399 --> 02:05:19,079
becoming kind of cuman. I told my atheist dad the

2089
02:05:19,159 --> 02:05:23,039
other day that he was furious because of bad experiences

2090
02:05:23,119 --> 02:05:26,039
with my mom due to coming from a Jehovah's witness family.

2091
02:05:26,119 --> 02:05:29,359
I pray for him. Yeah, Joe's witnesses can really damage people.

2092
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:33,199
I think you know, Kurt Metzker was raised Joe's witness

2093
02:05:33,279 --> 02:05:34,920
and I think that's one of the reasons that it's

2094
02:05:35,159 --> 02:05:38,520
been difficult to get through to Kurt with things like

2095
02:05:38,600 --> 02:05:40,439
the Deed of Christ and the Trinity is because of

2096
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:44,520
that Joe's witness upbringing. So it can definitely make things difficult.

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Into the furnace, I'm mute.

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02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:52,119
Speaker 23: Hey, Jay.

2099
02:05:52,359 --> 02:05:53,399
Speaker 10: Two quick questions man.

2100
02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:56,520
Speaker 36: One is I'm working on a I'm working on a

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02:05:56,520 --> 02:06:01,039
book and a project about kind of like massage Cia.

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02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 10: You know, classic KGB sub version in the church. I've

2103
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:07,479
noticed that there's a pretty big whack.

2104
02:06:07,439 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 36: Of people kind of going into you know, the influence

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02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:13,000
of the occult in the eighteenth century, I'm sorry, the

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02:06:13,399 --> 02:06:16,880
nineteenth century, going into the twentieth century of the church.

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Speaker 10: Just kind of curious. Have you come across any good.

2108
02:06:19,479 --> 02:06:23,760
Speaker 36: Material that I could probably use that's not too conspiratorial

2109
02:06:23,960 --> 02:06:28,199
and sort of like kind of outmanched and crazy, but

2110
02:06:28,319 --> 02:06:30,600
maybe something that's more rooted and maybe a little bit

2111
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:35,119
more of like a I don't know, something that's been verified,

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kind of like well researched.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the two books I mentioned at the beginning, Aaron

2114
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:42,960
in the Wilderness by Migael Raziano and David Weimhoff's book

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02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:43,960
on John Courtney Maria.

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Speaker 10: Perfect.

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02:06:46,479 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 36: Second question, real quick. This one might be a little

2118
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:50,479
bit of a deeper question. But I recently read a

2119
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:58,359
book by Ivan Alexandrovich Ilvin. I guess I use the

2120
02:06:58,439 --> 02:06:59,960
Russian guy, but at the name of the book is

2121
02:07:00,119 --> 02:07:00,760
on resistance.

2122
02:07:03,039 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, what's your what's your take on that.

2123
02:07:06,319 --> 02:07:07,840
Speaker 5: I've not read that book yet, but I've read a

2124
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,840
lot of his essays because Mark Hackard has translated a

2125
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:13,960
bunch of his essays. But I do eventually intend to

2126
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:21,520
get to it. Rost Co, I'm I'm eating a cough

2127
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:23,199
drop because I'm sick. You guys, what do you think

2128
02:07:23,239 --> 02:07:27,279
it is? It's not it's not drugs. I'm eating drugs.

2129
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:37,319
I'm mute. What's up? Rost Co? Mark Rothko, what's up? Okay,

2130
02:07:37,399 --> 02:07:43,159
don't mute, I don't care, donumute whatever. Stevie K three dollars, Jay,

2131
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,039
I'm trying to change my Set of a Conscious Dad's position.

2132
02:07:46,319 --> 02:07:50,199
He's in the cMRI. It has an insane history, which

2133
02:07:50,199 --> 02:07:53,119
I pointed out. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like, what are

2134
02:07:53,159 --> 02:07:56,439
the best arguments against the SAD? Is John Patrello's book

2135
02:07:56,439 --> 02:08:00,279
The Set of a Conscious Delusion. So we helped John

2136
02:08:00,319 --> 02:08:03,399
Pontrolo come out of SETA and become orthodox. His book

2137
02:08:03,479 --> 02:08:06,880
is a classic Midwest convert. Three dollars also did a

2138
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:10,560
talk on the book. There's a part A park in

2139
02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:13,319
my neighborhood is called dire Field. It makes me think

2140
02:08:13,359 --> 02:08:15,399
about you, but not in a home A good Keep

2141
02:08:15,439 --> 02:08:19,359
that shit straight, dude, Austin five dollars. The Treasury of

2142
02:08:19,439 --> 02:08:22,520
Merits has not talked about enough. It is a ridiculous

2143
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,680
Catholic teaching. Absolutely it is, and it's part of their

2144
02:08:24,720 --> 02:08:28,680
dogma too, and it's in Denzinger clear as day. But

2145
02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:32,159
you'll notice another Romancaliches talk about this. It's an easy defeater, dude.

2146
02:08:32,199 --> 02:08:36,039
It's like there's all of these overlooked defeaters, like the

2147
02:08:36,199 --> 02:08:39,600
histrionic women, saints and the Treasury of Merits which the

2148
02:08:39,640 --> 02:08:44,520
pope can pull from. It's just like, what, Oh, it's

2149
02:08:44,560 --> 02:08:47,000
a logical development out of the early canonical It says, no,

2150
02:08:47,079 --> 02:08:50,840
it's not the senate Five dollars. Do you think Catholics

2151
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:52,560
are going to stop using the Philly okuay when they

2152
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:58,399
pray our Father and the son who aren't in heaven.

2153
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:02,960
I don't get it because they don't say that. I

2154
02:09:03,039 --> 02:09:06,039
think that's supposed to be a joke. But people were

2155
02:09:06,039 --> 02:09:08,359
trying to make some big deal about Oh, Francis or

2156
02:09:08,479 --> 02:09:16,960
of Leo didn't say the Philly oque. That's just for optics, dude. Bird.

2157
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:20,479
Ten dollars, can you and Tim Gordon discuss what would

2158
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:24,760
be required for a real reunion. It's a thought experiment. Well, actually,

2159
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:26,239
it's funny you said that, because Tim asked me that

2160
02:09:26,319 --> 02:09:31,800
this morning, and I cannot find my tweet where I

2161
02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:35,479
actually listed these from several years ago. But the if

2162
02:09:35,520 --> 02:09:38,560
you read the little novella, it's not a nobella, it's

2163
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:42,640
a letter, but it's actually a little book from Metropolitan

2164
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:52,560
Seraphim Pereis, and he's a famous trad Orthodox bishop in Greece.

2165
02:09:54,039 --> 02:10:00,159
When Francis was elected, he wrote a basically a Booklet's

2166
02:10:00,159 --> 02:10:03,399
see if it's used to be here at Orthodox Christian Information. Yeah,

2167
02:10:03,479 --> 02:10:05,760
here it is. I think, yeah, this is it awesome.

2168
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:07,840
I thought it was. For a long time, you couldn't

2169
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:08,359
find this thing.

2170
02:10:08,640 --> 02:10:08,960
Speaker 10: This is it.

2171
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:17,239
Speaker 5: So this letter is actually a really long, basically rebuke

2172
02:10:18,359 --> 02:10:22,399
of Vatican nonsense. And it's not just the reason it's

2173
02:10:22,439 --> 02:10:24,279
so good is that it also includes all the stuff

2174
02:10:24,279 --> 02:10:29,439
you hear me talk about, all the geopolitical stuff, Cia

2175
02:10:30,119 --> 02:10:33,039
Davos types of version, like he brings it all up

2176
02:10:33,600 --> 02:10:43,800
PDF stuff, and all of that concludes with I think

2177
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,720
he lists thirty two points. Let's see. I think it's

2178
02:10:47,760 --> 02:11:02,880
at the end of the book. He even talks about

2179
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:05,079
Opus's day that I can bank money laundering. Look at that.

2180
02:11:08,159 --> 02:11:11,079
So you want to call me a retarded crazy conspiracy

2181
02:11:11,079 --> 02:11:12,920
there as well, some of the most prominent bishops in

2182
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,239
Greece actually bring up all the stuff I talk about,

2183
02:11:15,399 --> 02:11:21,760
So you're just showing your own ignorance where I thought

2184
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:24,000
for sure though, there's somewhere in here there's actually a

2185
02:11:24,119 --> 02:11:31,520
list of thirty or thirty two points. Let's see is this?

2186
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:32,039
Speaker 10: Now?

2187
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:56,760
Speaker 5: This isn't it? I know what it's in here. Somewhere

2188
02:11:59,239 --> 02:12:04,520
it's like a it's like an eighty seven page letter,

2189
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:07,399
so I'm not exactly sure where in here it is.

2190
02:12:07,479 --> 02:12:09,680
But somewhere he lists all the like major issues.

2191
02:12:11,159 --> 02:12:12,279
Speaker 10: You hid this to me?

2192
02:12:12,439 --> 02:12:16,319
Speaker 23: Ja isn't this Remember JP two he didn't say the

2193
02:12:16,359 --> 02:12:17,800
Philly OK way once?

2194
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 5: Right, Well, they allow the Uniates to not say it,

2195
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:22,279
so right, But.

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02:12:22,319 --> 02:12:25,439
Speaker 10: It wasn't that that was that was a gew political

2197
02:12:25,600 --> 02:12:26,399
move to do.

2198
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:34,159
Speaker 5: That, I think, So, you know, I that's right. I

2199
02:12:34,239 --> 02:12:40,560
mean he's even calling out like the PDF stuff. Anyway,

2200
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,000
I will put this in the chat because it's a

2201
02:12:44,079 --> 02:12:48,399
really good kind of It basically lists the major issues.

2202
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:51,920
And the point is that it's not it's not like, oh,

2203
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:53,960
if we just you know, change the issue with the

2204
02:12:54,079 --> 02:12:56,279
bread and if we do paedo communion. If we stop

2205
02:12:56,439 --> 02:12:58,439
saying the philli ok, way, then that's cool. Everything will

2206
02:12:58,479 --> 02:13:01,079
be the same. There's all these other things that can

2207
02:13:01,159 --> 02:13:05,760
never be gotten over because they were dogmatized like you

2208
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:08,560
have ever since the schism, all of these Roman Catholic

2209
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:12,720
novelties that are dogmatic, like Treasury of Merits of the

2210
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:15,720
Saints and all this kind of stuff, like it's already

2211
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:21,680
in Catholic dogma. You can't like delete it or get

2212
02:13:21,800 --> 02:13:23,920
rid of it, because if you do that, you're admitting

2213
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:28,760
that Vatican one is false, that the papacy didn't preserve

2214
02:13:28,840 --> 02:13:31,920
the faith, it defected. Well, if the papacy defected, then

2215
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,119
Vatican one is false. So you understand that Rome will

2216
02:13:34,159 --> 02:13:38,720
have to like get rid of delete all these ecumenical councils.

2217
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:48,640
They're not going to do that. Peter five dollars. I

2218
02:13:48,760 --> 02:13:50,920
was in go I've been in go Arc for ten years.

2219
02:13:51,199 --> 02:13:54,399
The priest is solid. When should I leave if there's

2220
02:13:54,399 --> 02:13:58,119
a formal union, or when the monasteries leave or my

2221
02:13:58,199 --> 02:14:00,479
metropolitan signs on, Yeah, I think those would be good

2222
02:14:00,640 --> 02:14:05,000
public signs. Austin Treasure Merits has not talked about enough

2223
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,960
as a ridiculous klogue teaching exactly tribulation. Saint Sindal Jay,

2224
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:11,359
can you talk about the ridiculous push because of ecumenism

2225
02:14:11,439 --> 02:14:15,239
from Catholic media that the seat of Peter and the

2226
02:14:15,319 --> 02:14:19,399
seat of Saint Andrew is a new invention. I don't.

2227
02:14:19,399 --> 02:14:21,720
I'm not sure what Catholic media is doing with this

2228
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:27,520
idea of Seed of Peter and Seed of Andrew. But

2229
02:14:27,680 --> 02:14:29,600
I think in the first hour we kind of talked

2230
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:33,079
about just the overall kind of absurdity of the acumenism

2231
02:14:33,159 --> 02:14:35,600
at work here. Let's tell God five dollars. When you

2232
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:37,760
were in Rcia, was it a woman? Actually it wasn't.

2233
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:39,920
It was Actually my I had a I had a

2234
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:43,760
pretty good uh Novasorto parish when I converted in two

2235
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:46,600
thousand and three, I mean as Novasorto Parish as go.

2236
02:14:46,760 --> 02:14:53,199
It was actually pretty traditional and conservative overall. And know,

2237
02:14:53,359 --> 02:14:56,039
the priest who was always really cool to me was

2238
02:14:56,039 --> 02:14:59,600
a nice guy, father father Victor. He did the he

2239
02:14:59,680 --> 02:15:05,039
did the RCA, and he was not really any kind

2240
02:15:05,039 --> 02:15:12,199
of lib Jonathan Kelly Methylene blue gang, let's go, Alex

2241
02:15:12,279 --> 02:15:15,840
needs to restock that store. I have been enjoying the

2242
02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:18,880
Methleen blue. And when we did our conference everybody's sort

2243
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:22,000
of mystified by me having all this methling Blue all around.

2244
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:24,880
I was like, it's good, dude, but it's also good

2245
02:15:24,960 --> 02:15:26,880
to combine with chalk dot com. So heading over to

2246
02:15:26,960 --> 02:15:28,840
chalk dot com. He's from code J sixty life by

2247
02:15:28,880 --> 02:15:32,439
the way to get sixty percent off. But I'm gonna

2248
02:15:32,479 --> 02:15:35,119
have to cycle out of the methyling blue because if

2249
02:15:35,119 --> 02:15:36,680
you combine it with chalk, I think it kind of

2250
02:15:36,760 --> 02:15:40,600
like like the tongue catally still works, but the methling

2251
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:42,760
blue is not really doing anything because I've been using

2252
02:15:42,800 --> 02:15:45,239
it every day for a month. So I'm going to

2253
02:15:45,279 --> 02:15:46,920
take a break from the methlene blue and then let it.

2254
02:15:48,479 --> 02:15:51,159
I've built up a tolerance, but I've never built up

2255
02:15:51,159 --> 02:15:54,319
a tolerance to chalk. It always works. Not dissing methling Blue,

2256
02:15:54,319 --> 02:15:58,359
I'm just saying your X space is busted. I can't

2257
02:15:58,399 --> 02:16:00,840
hear anything. Oh, that's because of spam. I was getting

2258
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:06,439
spam calls. That was Pew Place five dollars, Midnight Light

2259
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:09,319
five dollars. It was nice to meet you at the conference. Jay.

2260
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:12,039
I'm local to Florida that was baptized in the Antiokin

2261
02:16:12,159 --> 02:16:16,600
church there. What is your take on bitcoin price long term, Well,

2262
02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:20,680
everybody got a reprieve in this dip, and everybody's freaking, oh,

2263
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:24,239
it's going to zero. Well you could have had eighty

2264
02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:26,840
five four thousand dollars bitcoin the other day and now

2265
02:16:26,840 --> 02:16:31,439
it's back to ninety whatever. So nobody ever listens. They

2266
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:34,840
always freak out it's going to zero now because it

2267
02:16:34,879 --> 02:16:37,520
went down ten percent. Well, welcome to bitcoin. There's always

2268
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:41,319
these thirty percent dips. So uh no, it's not meth.

2269
02:16:41,559 --> 02:16:49,479
Are you serious? Methylene blue is not meth. It's fentanyl.

2270
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:55,239
Just kidding. Long term, long term, bitcoin's going a million

2271
02:16:55,239 --> 02:17:01,319
dollars extangli of five dollars. If the average person is dumb,

2272
02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:03,959
then that means half of all people are dumber than that.

2273
02:17:05,319 --> 02:17:11,200
That is the dark truth. Brandon the Inquirer forty dollars,

2274
02:17:11,239 --> 02:17:13,760
Thank you so much. I used to be Pantecostal, but

2275
02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:16,799
I switched to the Orthodox boxers. It was a complete

2276
02:17:16,840 --> 02:17:20,879
game changer. Ortho boxers. Oh I get it, Pantecostal boxers.

2277
02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:24,399
I will never go back. Thank your brand and the Inquirer.

2278
02:17:26,639 --> 02:17:30,040
He's doing some word play. V Scott five dollars. Is

2279
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:33,399
this the after party? Yes, welcome to the after party,

2280
02:17:34,559 --> 02:17:37,760
jan Ham one dollar. Thank you so much, Snago Beast

2281
02:17:38,479 --> 02:17:40,399
God bless Jay. I was wonder It was a wonderful

2282
02:17:40,440 --> 02:17:44,600
experience of the conference. Thank you so much. Snuggle's glad

2283
02:17:44,639 --> 02:17:49,920
to see you there. I had a question, is there

2284
02:17:49,959 --> 02:17:52,559
a way to get any of the presentations. I did

2285
02:17:52,639 --> 02:17:56,399
audio record mine, so members to my website will get

2286
02:17:57,280 --> 02:18:00,879
the audio of my talk. I don't know what anyone

2287
02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:04,840
else did, so if Father Vladimir recorded it, or if

2288
02:18:06,399 --> 02:18:09,319
Kotel recorded his, I have no idea. I did record

2289
02:18:09,399 --> 02:18:14,040
mine personally, though. Emilion shout out to Milion ten Bucks

2290
02:18:14,079 --> 02:18:16,840
got to meet him at the conference. Super cool. We

2291
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:21,079
love our serbs. Shout out to our base serbs. Emilion says,

2292
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:24,120
for ten dollars, do not forget to give a thumbs up.

2293
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:28,120
Contemporary convening five dollars. This is my meager pentance, my lord,

2294
02:18:28,680 --> 02:18:32,079
I await the Dire brand wash cloths. Every pore in

2295
02:18:32,159 --> 02:18:37,639
the audience will receive one free branded dire wash cloth

2296
02:18:40,159 --> 02:18:43,079
so that you don't smell like hot dog water hush tones.

2297
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:46,120
Oh we read that, nobody ten dollars. I go to

2298
02:18:46,159 --> 02:18:48,319
an OCA church. I used to be Mormon. I asked

2299
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:50,799
my priest how he felt about masonry. He said, you

2300
02:18:50,799 --> 02:18:52,799
cannot be a Christian a mason. That is correct. It

2301
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:55,440
sounds like a good priest. His answer made me stay

2302
02:18:55,440 --> 02:18:57,680
in my parish. Yeah. In fact, that's usually a pretty

2303
02:18:57,719 --> 02:19:01,719
good test to tell if your priest is kind of

2304
02:19:02,479 --> 02:19:06,399
based and if he, you know, kind of knows if

2305
02:19:06,440 --> 02:19:09,200
he's on the right side of things, like does he

2306
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:11,840
push that mother trees as a saint? Does he say

2307
02:19:11,879 --> 02:19:15,600
that you can be skittles? You know? Does he like masonry?

2308
02:19:15,719 --> 02:19:15,760
Speaker 10: Like?

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02:19:15,840 --> 02:19:20,200
Speaker 5: Those are easy like tests right there. Minor Sam Jay,

2310
02:19:20,239 --> 02:19:22,319
you stole me. You stole five dollars and call me

2311
02:19:22,399 --> 02:19:24,840
a poor Well, I'm just trying to do the Tom

2312
02:19:24,879 --> 02:19:28,680
Segura model of growing your channel. Kyle Norton ten dollars

2313
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:32,600
hair grow. We got a Kenneth Copeland fan in the audience,

2314
02:19:34,159 --> 02:19:37,680
Penny Wits two dollars. I regretted googling Tom Sigura and

2315
02:19:37,719 --> 02:19:42,680
the pores. Now everybody's talking about that. I'm still not

2316
02:19:42,799 --> 02:19:45,920
exactly one hundred cent clear on how this all went down,

2317
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:48,120
but I'm sure hush Tones is correct in the way

2318
02:19:48,159 --> 02:19:54,639
he decreed it. Jadam seven dollars, JTM, can you elaborate

2319
02:19:54,760 --> 02:19:58,479
on the ways as difficult for people as Showe's witness

2320
02:19:58,520 --> 02:20:07,559
to understand the Trinity. I think when you're indoctrinated from

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02:20:07,600 --> 02:20:12,079
your youth into a position that's very heavily based on

2322
02:20:12,159 --> 02:20:17,000
these either ores, it just becomes really difficult to think

2323
02:20:17,079 --> 02:20:21,680
outside of that box. So if you've always understood, you know,

2324
02:20:21,799 --> 02:20:26,600
these passages in the New Testament to be Unitarian, when

2325
02:20:26,639 --> 02:20:31,280
you start hearing challenges to that position, like your mind

2326
02:20:31,360 --> 02:20:38,280
just sort of immediately goes into defensive mode. So I

2327
02:20:38,360 --> 02:20:43,920
think probably for cults like Joe's Witnesses, it might be

2328
02:20:44,040 --> 02:20:48,600
more effective rather than to directly attack. In some cases,

2329
02:20:49,840 --> 02:20:53,559
it might be more effective to do like a what

2330
02:20:53,639 --> 02:20:59,360
people call the deprogramming method. And yeah, we're not just

2331
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:03,680
poor as also Dirt Poor's Robins exactly. And I had

2332
02:21:03,719 --> 02:21:07,319
a really good conversation with Neil about this over Thanksgiving

2333
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:09,440
to his house, because he's actually put a lot of

2334
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:16,520
time into this. When it comes to certain people of

2335
02:21:16,559 --> 02:21:22,079
certain persuasions or locked into certain things that are not

2336
02:21:22,239 --> 02:21:25,680
interested in a debate or apologetic polemic interaction, in some

2337
02:21:25,799 --> 02:21:28,000
of those cases, it might be better for those people.

2338
02:21:28,559 --> 02:21:29,959
And you've got to have the wisdom to know what

2339
02:21:30,079 --> 02:21:31,479
kind of person you're dealing with right, So if you're

2340
02:21:31,479 --> 02:21:34,639
dealing with somebody who's not going to respond to polemics

2341
02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:36,959
or that kind of stuff, it might be better to

2342
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:39,120
go the route of deprogramming. And there was a guy,

2343
02:21:39,559 --> 02:21:45,000
a psychologist dude that somebody mentioned on a stream a

2344
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:47,239
while back, but I can't remember his name, and I

2345
02:21:47,360 --> 02:21:54,959
listened to his whole talk and he did I mean,

2346
02:21:55,000 --> 02:21:57,000
this is not Christian, but he has a pretty good

2347
02:21:57,079 --> 02:22:06,639
approach to deprogramming from colts. If you're in the chat

2348
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:08,520
and you can remember this guy, let me know. I

2349
02:22:08,559 --> 02:22:11,280
can't remember what his name was, but it was like deprogramming,

2350
02:22:13,639 --> 02:22:16,079
and there was a specific cult that he.

2351
02:22:20,879 --> 02:22:20,920
Speaker 13: Is.

2352
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:27,719
Speaker 5: It might be rit Ross, I can't remember. That guy,

2353
02:22:27,799 --> 02:22:29,719
might be a bit lib though I can't remember who

2354
02:22:29,719 --> 02:22:39,760
it was. No, it's doctor Stephen Hassan. That's it. And

2355
02:22:39,840 --> 02:22:43,840
again I'm not advocating this dude's world views or his worldview,

2356
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:50,399
but that's who it was, because this dude is kind

2357
02:22:50,399 --> 02:22:52,319
of a shit lib, but he does have a good

2358
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:58,760
approach to effective ways of dealing with people that are

2359
02:22:58,799 --> 02:23:05,040
really locked into colts. But I can't find the podcast

2360
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:07,440
I listened to from him. It was about a specific

2361
02:23:07,520 --> 02:23:14,360
cult and anyway. I don't know, I've already forgotten what

2362
02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:19,719
it was. Oh it might be this right here. Yeah,

2363
02:23:19,760 --> 02:23:26,239
so he talks about scientology here. Oh, this is trying

2364
02:23:26,239 --> 02:23:29,200
to say MAGA is scientology, which technically MAGA could be

2365
02:23:29,319 --> 02:23:32,920
could like. I don't necessarily disagree, but usually when people

2366
02:23:32,959 --> 02:23:36,280
are anti MAGA, it's like for the worst reasons. It's

2367
02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:39,680
not for the right reasons, you know what I mean. Okay,

2368
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:41,479
maybe this was the one I listened to here.

2369
02:23:41,799 --> 02:23:43,479
Speaker 18: Check us out at skipping dot com and if you

2370
02:23:43,559 --> 02:23:44,479
want to support the show that.

2371
02:23:44,520 --> 02:23:47,520
Speaker 5: One, well, way, I'm not supporting Michael Schrmer. He's obviously

2372
02:23:47,559 --> 02:23:50,040
a lunatic. But you could probably listen to this and

2373
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:57,959
get some good practical advice on how to deprogrammed. I'm

2374
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:00,319
not really good at this because this is not my method.

2375
02:24:02,079 --> 02:24:04,719
Or just ask Neil. Go ask Neil from Durple Robbins

2376
02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:10,360
about how you deprogram people, because he he's all about that.

2377
02:24:11,520 --> 02:24:16,959
But I do debates. I'm not a soft not that

2378
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:19,440
Neil soft. Neil's actually pretty awesome at bathe but I'm saying,

2379
02:24:19,479 --> 02:24:23,200
like his approach to this is different and it works

2380
02:24:23,239 --> 02:24:26,719
for different people. So I'm not advocating Mika, Michael Shermer.

2381
02:24:26,719 --> 02:24:30,479
I'm just talking about the guest, the way that he

2382
02:24:30,559 --> 02:24:35,920
talks about deepest come on guys being retarded. Obviously, I'm

2383
02:24:35,959 --> 02:24:41,399
not pro Michael Shermer. That was ridiculous, But you know,

2384
02:24:41,520 --> 02:24:43,719
talking to dollars, what does the church Father set you buy?

2385
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:46,680
I mean, I'm only aware of one. This is the

2386
02:24:46,719 --> 02:24:48,879
Philip Shaft set. I don't even know if it still exists.

2387
02:24:48,920 --> 02:24:50,920
Can you still buy the Shaft set? I think it

2388
02:24:51,040 --> 02:24:59,840
comes in paperback. Now, Chase Head a paperback version of it,

2389
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:13,559
so is it on? You can get the Antie and

2390
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:19,879
I seen Fathers in paperback. I don't know if this

2391
02:25:19,959 --> 02:25:25,760
is even exists. And here's Abe books. Here's the full

2392
02:25:25,840 --> 02:25:30,559
thirty eight volumes for three thousand dollars. Here's the full

2393
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:36,719
set for two thousand dollars. But even better than this

2394
02:25:36,959 --> 02:25:41,760
is the Catholic University Set c UA. But I don't

2395
02:25:41,799 --> 02:25:44,920
know that you can buy this whole set anywhere. There's

2396
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:47,319
probably probably five thousand dollars. Buy this whole thing.

2397
02:25:48,239 --> 02:25:52,799
Speaker 23: You gotta go to use bookstores in my people to

2398
02:25:52,840 --> 02:25:53,360
find one.

2399
02:26:00,239 --> 02:26:04,840
Speaker 5: That's probably right. I'll see.

2400
02:26:07,920 --> 02:26:08,559
Speaker 6: Is this it right here?

2401
02:26:08,600 --> 02:26:10,799
Speaker 5: Oh? Look at that? That's it. I think the CUA one.

2402
02:26:14,399 --> 02:26:16,879
My university had this and they got rid of it.

2403
02:26:16,959 --> 02:26:20,719
That's how stupid Murray State is. They get rid of

2404
02:26:20,760 --> 02:26:23,840
all their books, including this. They had this entire I

2405
02:26:23,879 --> 02:26:27,879
think they had the entire CUA press. This is it

2406
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:31,799
right here. Now look at this lucky dude right here.

2407
02:26:31,840 --> 02:26:37,040
He's got the whole CUA press set right there. But

2408
02:26:37,159 --> 02:26:38,959
if you were to buy that, I mean that that'd

2409
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:50,680
probably be ten thousand dollars. Who knows anyway, Kievan Russ,

2410
02:26:50,760 --> 02:27:13,879
what's up? You want to un mute bro? I'm you dude, okay, don't. Guys,

2411
02:27:13,959 --> 02:27:16,639
thank you so much. Cheez Click says for ten dollars.

2412
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:20,959
Thank you for your work, Jay for your information. It's

2413
02:27:21,159 --> 02:27:29,719
poorer like Bill Gates says, Okay, I'll get those numbers down. Guys.

2414
02:27:29,799 --> 02:27:31,440
Remember that Essadar CALLI with three is out. You can

2415
02:27:31,479 --> 02:27:35,000
get signed copies in the shop at Jason Elysis I

2416
02:27:35,079 --> 02:27:37,120
have a a week. We got more super chutes of her.

2417
02:27:37,120 --> 02:27:41,959
Excuse me, I'm going to be on a podcast here

2418
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:43,399
in a minute, so I'm gonna have to go. But

2419
02:27:43,559 --> 02:27:46,200
thank you guys in the chat for calling in. Appreciate

2420
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:48,120
you guys very much. Kievan I don't know why you

2421
02:27:48,159 --> 02:27:53,440
didn't want to talk, but whatever, dude, Adam Johnson ten

2422
02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:56,840
dollars day. If the likeness of God is thiosis, what

2423
02:27:57,040 --> 02:28:02,280
is the image? Well, the Orthodox view is that image

2424
02:28:02,280 --> 02:28:06,360
and likeness. What's a Rob raid? Who's Rob Rob Noer?

2425
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:08,920
What's what does that mean? People in the chat said,

2426
02:28:08,959 --> 02:28:12,680
this is a Rob raid? Is that Rob from Crucible?

2427
02:28:14,159 --> 02:28:15,760
Shout out to the Crucible, by the way, Thank you

2428
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:19,959
guys for we always get those sweet raids from those dudes.

2429
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:24,000
Appreciate that is the podcast live. I don't I don't

2430
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:26,559
know how she does her podcast. So there's a a

2431
02:28:28,159 --> 02:28:34,079
new age psychoonat gal who converted Orthodoxy and she is

2432
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:41,680
going to have me on her podcast. So we'll you'll know,

2433
02:28:42,159 --> 02:28:43,399
you'll know Rob.

2434
02:28:43,559 --> 02:28:44,479
Speaker 10: Now.

2435
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:48,120
Speaker 5: Every time I see Rob Noer, it makes me think

2436
02:28:48,200 --> 02:28:53,680
of that Australian pagan dude or New Zealand pagan dude

2437
02:28:53,680 --> 02:28:56,959
they called into debate, remember him now? So when I

2438
02:28:57,040 --> 02:29:01,879
see Rob Noer, I say, in my mind like him anyway.

2439
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:07,120
So in the Orthodox view, image and likeness is likeness

2440
02:29:07,360 --> 02:29:11,040
is the deification of the theosis, the life of the

2441
02:29:11,079 --> 02:29:14,000
Holy Spirit. The image is the things that we possess

2442
02:29:14,040 --> 02:29:19,959
as faculties that are like God reasoning, et cetera, having

2443
02:29:22,760 --> 02:29:26,920
even a crystological image being made after the pattern of Christ.

2444
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:28,920
Adam is made on the pattern of Christ. That's something

2445
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:32,840
unique to the Orthodox view and the Eastern Fathers. And

2446
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:36,000
what Adam lost in the fall is the life of

2447
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:38,239
the Holy Spirit. So regaining the life of the Holy

2448
02:29:38,319 --> 02:29:41,799
Spirit is what that means. Buck the cowboy ten dollars.

2449
02:29:42,280 --> 02:29:45,639
Who's a false prophet in Revelation? Is he a gopher

2450
02:29:45,719 --> 02:29:48,959
for Antichrist? I thought this, said Golfer for Antichrist. Yes

2451
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:53,959
he is. Arnold palmer Ani is the false prophet of

2452
02:29:53,959 --> 02:29:57,760
the book Relation a gopher? The false prophet in the

2453
02:29:57,760 --> 02:30:00,719
Book of Revelation, I think in the immediate text is

2454
02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:05,159
the fallen high priesthood of the Jews, and that's why

2455
02:30:05,239 --> 02:30:08,120
it's decked out, and it's described in the imagery of

2456
02:30:08,200 --> 02:30:12,559
an apostate orror, the way that the prophets always described

2457
02:30:12,600 --> 02:30:17,559
the apostate high priesthood in Jerusalem. That's the immediate seventy

2458
02:30:17,639 --> 02:30:19,680
eight d context of the Book Revelation. However, at the

2459
02:30:19,760 --> 02:30:23,920
end of the world there will be some apostate version

2460
02:30:24,079 --> 02:30:27,440
of that, which could be an apostate church so the

2461
02:30:27,559 --> 02:30:32,760
church is in mass apostasy. That's my take on the

2462
02:30:32,959 --> 02:30:36,399
false prophet. So it could be a papacy figure, it

2463
02:30:36,440 --> 02:30:39,920
could be a judaized papacy. It could be something like that.

2464
02:30:40,959 --> 02:30:42,879
Let's talk gouy five dollars when you were in RCA.

2465
02:30:42,920 --> 02:30:50,840
I know we did that. Excuse me. M du Jenovich says,

2466
02:30:50,879 --> 02:30:53,600
for ten dollars, I'm a poor It's okay, dude. The way,

2467
02:30:53,639 --> 02:30:56,360
that's just jokes for the people. We make these jokes,

2468
02:30:56,360 --> 02:30:58,200
and people are won't be able to take it. They'll be, oh,

2469
02:30:58,280 --> 02:31:00,920
look at this guy. He hates people. He's still weird.

2470
02:31:00,959 --> 02:31:04,520
It's just jokes man. Hopefully this audience is high Kai.

2471
02:31:04,799 --> 02:31:06,920
I think our audience is high IQ enough to like,

2472
02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:11,520
you know, to wash their butts, you.

2473
02:31:11,559 --> 02:31:12,000
Speaker 6: Know what I mean.

2474
02:31:15,200 --> 02:31:19,479
Speaker 5: We got Nelly back, Nelly the rapper. He's putting his

2475
02:31:19,559 --> 02:31:21,879
clothes on. Before he was, it's getting on here, take

2476
02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:24,879
off all your clothes. Nelly's converted. He's modest. Now he's

2477
02:31:24,879 --> 02:31:27,000
putting on all his clothes. He says, for twenty five dollars,

2478
02:31:27,360 --> 02:31:30,159
where do I buy your tracks? Funko, Pop, pay, Piggy,

2479
02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:32,799
et cetera. I haven't put him up to buy yet,

2480
02:31:32,840 --> 02:31:35,239
but maybe I should. They're just on my channel, so

2481
02:31:35,360 --> 02:31:38,600
you can you can maybe may. I don't know how

2482
02:31:39,959 --> 02:31:42,639
uh Spotify works. I don't know how you like, how

2483
02:31:42,639 --> 02:31:46,840
do you put your music as just music? Because I

2484
02:31:46,920 --> 02:31:48,680
know the podcast is on there, but I don't know

2485
02:31:48,719 --> 02:31:54,399
how to put music up. Sam five dollars. My wife

2486
02:31:54,440 --> 02:31:59,000
and I are inquirers. She's Hebrew Roots, but she wants

2487
02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:03,879
to debate Orthodox see with me. Here's my script and

2488
02:32:04,319 --> 02:32:06,399
he uh, well, I appreciate the Google doc there, but

2489
02:32:06,520 --> 02:32:07,920
I don't bro. I don't have time to read an

2490
02:32:08,079 --> 02:32:09,879
entire Google doc on that. What I would say is

2491
02:32:10,079 --> 02:32:15,920
get your wife to watch the excellent documentary at Orthodox

2492
02:32:15,920 --> 02:32:26,479
Shahta Christian Worsman, the Old Tesment. This is one of

2493
02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:31,879
the best things for the sort of Judaized Hebrew Roots

2494
02:32:32,479 --> 02:32:38,840
Messianic stuff. So there you go, because it shows that

2495
02:32:38,959 --> 02:32:44,399
the real Hebrew Roots, the real Messianic Judaism, is Orthodox Christianity,

2496
02:32:44,440 --> 02:32:47,360
the real one, not the schismatic Judaizing stuff.

2497
02:32:49,040 --> 02:32:49,159
Speaker 10: Uh.

2498
02:32:50,319 --> 02:32:52,520
Speaker 5: Amber Whiskey Sunshine to dollars. Thank you for the schooling.

2499
02:32:52,600 --> 02:32:56,319
You're welcome, Amber Whiskey Sunshine. That's a name right there.

2500
02:33:04,440 --> 02:33:07,360
Ortho Anglo Croat thirty dollars. Jay, your mam is so

2501
02:33:07,520 --> 02:33:11,319
fat that she sat on trad cat and skittles popped out.

2502
02:33:12,959 --> 02:33:15,360
It doesn't make sense and that's why I like it.

2503
02:33:15,920 --> 02:33:19,200
Fin again three dollars, Thank you dog. Jmel fifteen dollars.

2504
02:33:19,399 --> 02:33:22,360
I tried to Google putting Google maps a church that

2505
02:33:22,440 --> 02:33:25,600
is not compromised, and the only Protestant churches came up.

2506
02:33:26,079 --> 02:33:28,840
Google is inverted. Yeah, I don't think Google's going to

2507
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:32,360
give you like bazed and trad churches by a web

2508
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:36,760
by searching like that. Keevan Russ says, sorry, my spaces

2509
02:33:37,000 --> 02:33:40,639
audio didn't work. Keep it real, caying, I appreciate that

2510
02:33:40,799 --> 02:33:44,879
all good cheese clicked. Two dollars, poor poor, Okay, the

2511
02:33:44,959 --> 02:33:50,200
poors Kevin Rhuys five dollars. Is commemorating Leo as a

2512
02:33:50,200 --> 02:33:57,399
bishop of the church and prior to ep at finar

2513
02:33:57,600 --> 02:34:02,159
at redline in your book. Uh yeah, I would say

2514
02:34:02,200 --> 02:34:06,639
commemorating the pope is their red line. JP pilt A,

2515
02:34:06,760 --> 02:34:11,680
five dollars. Tomson Gura's poorest thing is a long running bit.

2516
02:34:12,799 --> 02:34:15,159
His audience just happens to be vicious djons and they

2517
02:34:15,239 --> 02:34:20,440
take everything badly. You have no need to worry, Uh,

2518
02:34:24,280 --> 02:34:28,040
appreciate that. Yeah, I'm not. I figured it was like

2519
02:34:28,239 --> 02:34:32,719
probably something that people misunderstood, but then again, I mean

2520
02:34:32,760 --> 02:34:35,399
I could also see somebody doubling down, you know what

2521
02:34:35,399 --> 02:34:38,879
I mean. Thank you guys so much. Everybody, have a

2522
02:34:38,920 --> 02:34:39,280
good night.