WEBVTT 1 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:34.359 Hey everybody, welcome to game breaking News with me Jeff Grub, 2 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.840 your host from GiantBomb dot com. Thank you for joining 3 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:41.840 in on this episode. We're gonna talk about Remedy revealing 4 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:45.679 its new multiplayer game, and Sony patenting a weird new 5 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:48.000 piece of hardware. We have Tomorro, who's saying on the show, 6 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:49.640 so it's going to be a good one. Let's get 7 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:52.200 right into it with timro husseining, Tam, how are you doing? 8 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:56.079 I am guessed I'm winded. I just came from the 9 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:59.840 workout and and sat down at my computer. 10 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.359 Is it normally a early morning workout for you my wife? 11 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.280 The first thing in the morning. So I was wondering, Now, 12 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:09.280 usually usually I like to go later in the day. 13 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:09.760 Sure. 14 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:12.959 For some reason, I decided it would be a good 15 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.079 idea to get it done nice and early on a Friday, 16 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.120 forgetting that it might bump up against actual work that 17 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:19.599 I need to do. 18 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:21.840 You know, you made it like they know, no harm, 19 00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:24.959 no foul. You're here. Yeah, kickback, relaxed. We'll talk about 20 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:25.480 a little. 21 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.719 Bit video games and it will be fun. 22 00:01:28.040 --> 00:01:30.120 Yeah. I'll do most of the talking for a little bit. 23 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:31.560 Let you catch you at your win there. 24 00:01:31.599 --> 00:01:33.840 But uh, you know what, Tam, I gotta say, proud 25 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.719 of you, thank you, proud I appreciate that. Yeah, I 26 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:39.079 see the I mean so you remember you kind of 27 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.719 committing at some point a little bit, a little while ago, 28 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:44.280 and it's like, oh man, he's on there and Instagram 29 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:47.439 every day I get to see it and then the yeah, 30 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:48.840 the basketball workouts as well. 31 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.079 I love that those are Instagram. Those are Instagram pictures. 32 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.239 I just want to provide some context because I am 33 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.159 I find the idea of posting pictures of myself as 34 00:01:58.200 --> 00:02:02.400 a British person who has right not particularly much confidence 35 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:05.079 in the way I look mortifying. I hate that shit. 36 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.280 Those are for my personal trainer. Those are how my 37 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.919 personal trainer is keeping track of me. One of those 38 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:14.319 doesn't appear, and there's not already a predefined reason. He's 39 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.080 messaging me and being like, where's the picture? Are you 40 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:17.800 at the gym today? 41 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:18.120 Or no? 42 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:20.520 Those are for him. 43 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.120 We're all your personal trainer thing. Because I'm doing the 44 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:25.000 same thing, I'm like, hey, you did it again. He's 45 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:26.039 on it. He's still driving. 46 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:28.759 Well. Yeah, like I said, proud of you, it's it's 47 00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:29.400 paying off too. 48 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:35.280 I have been trying to catch up on some games, 49 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:37.400 but I keep adding more stuff to like what I 50 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.840 am playing. I gotta say, I'm I don't want to 51 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:41.280 tease it too much. I hate when people do it, 52 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:42.680 but I can't help it. I'm playing a new game 53 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:44.479 right now. I'm like, this is money. Maybe this might 54 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:46.400 actually be the best game I've played in a very 55 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:46.919 long time. 56 00:02:47.080 --> 00:02:48.840 So you know, I'll tell you when. 57 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.719 We're doing what's that Bloodborn first time? 58 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:53.479 The first time I. 59 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.400 Played blood Born, Yeah, exactly, you figured it out, everybody. 60 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.520 But but yeah, you know what games, games are good, 61 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.080 and even like the games that are like mediocre, I 62 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.120 think are like the good mediocre these days. 63 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:06.039 I think Shadows is like a pretty. 64 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:10.199 Good like one of those, and I'm I'm joined stuff 65 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:12.439 like that. So I think the games are kind of 66 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:13.520 hitting for me in the moment. 67 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:14.039 How about you. 68 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:19.039 Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of enjoyable games right now, both. 69 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:23.080 I think the thing that's really encouraging for me is 70 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.960 that it's not just one cagary of games. It's not 71 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.520 like just Triple A games are really really good now 72 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:33.039 and that's about it. But there's games across the spectrum 73 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.759 where's Triple A games, there's some good ones. There's double 74 00:03:35.800 --> 00:03:39.400 A games for whatever that's however you define that are good. 75 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:41.280 And there's a bunch of indie games that I'm playing 76 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:45.000 that like, this is great, this is excellent. So it's 77 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:49.039 a good time. Yeah, good times for gaming. 78 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:54.360 I also couldn't help it. I bought another handheld, and 79 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:56.719 I mean, yeah, and you text me, You're like, I 80 00:03:56.759 --> 00:04:00.560 also want another. Yeah, damn, we were. I don't know, 81 00:04:00.599 --> 00:04:02.360 it really is, a part of it is just it 82 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:11.400 makes me feel happy to have these things, and and 83 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.960 it's good for game Boy Advance games, and that's kind 84 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:15.759 of it. But I started playing other three on there, 85 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.120 and I think I'm gonna be playing that as well. 86 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:19.120 I bought the Me You Flip, which is on its 87 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:19.600 way to me. 88 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:21.240 Yep, I kinda. 89 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:24.040 I'm already looking at the next one, which is just 90 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.480 a like it literally just got here yesterday. 91 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:28.360 I need to stop. I need to take a breath 92 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:29.920 and actually use one of these things for a bit. 93 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.120 But I actually have a game Boy Advance that one 94 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:37.360 brown Forma GameSpot modded for me, which is crazy. It's 95 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:40.839 I love those Yeah, led screen and all that kind 96 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:41.879 of business is amazing. 97 00:04:42.279 --> 00:04:43.120 Yep, it's. 98 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.920 I wanted to like take that on before, but then 99 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.399 I ended up just getting these more and more frequently. 100 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.240 But yeah, putting in a back lit or you know, 101 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:53.759 kind of the front lit mod for the Game Boy 102 00:04:53.800 --> 00:04:56.920 Advance is pretty cool. All right, let's explain what we 103 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:59.759 do do here most weekdays, I, Jeff Grubb, will help 104 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:02.720 peace your gaming life back together. That includes breaking news 105 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:06.439 and maybe even some of our own original reporting. 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All right, we have a lot to get into. 118 00:05:36.879 --> 00:05:41.959 Let's start breaking some game news with Adam Fall reviews. Tam, 119 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:43.120 I know you like to try to keep up on 120 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:44.879 a lot of stuff that's happening with the reviews. To 121 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:46.879 have you put any time into into Adam Fall. 122 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.600 I would admit this is one that I wasn't able 123 00:05:49.639 --> 00:05:53.680 to do myself. Uh huh. It kind of works out 124 00:05:53.759 --> 00:05:57.639 because we got access to it pretty late. So the 125 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:02.120 review isn't actually up. Yeah, it's in production, and I 126 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:04.639 will have played a significant chunk of it, a decent 127 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:06.279 chunk of it, by the time our review goes up, 128 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.720 but for now I haven't. Unfortunately, I've spoken to a 129 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.000 bunch of people that are playing it or have played it, 130 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:13.920 and I'm hearing good things about it. 131 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:16.720 Yeah, I think so. The reviews are coming in. 132 00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:18.720 It's seventy and out of ten on I think I 133 00:06:18.720 --> 00:06:20.639 wrote or out of one hundred. I think I wrote 134 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.240 meta critic here. I think it's the open critic score. 135 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:24.759 But I think it's pretty similar over on Metacritic. 136 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:26.160 You know, kind of getting in that. 137 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:29.800 You know, just missing eighty low eighties range seventy nine 138 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:31.680 is not terrible, and a lot of the things I'm 139 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:33.920 hearing about it make it sound like an interesting game 140 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.160 that I'm going to give a chance. I have it, 141 00:06:36.240 --> 00:06:38.360 I just have not had time to play it, and 142 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.279 I might do so because of this. It got two 143 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.600 point five stars. From Giovanni col Antonio over at Digital Trends, 144 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:48.800 who wrote, in its latest action adventure games, Sniper Elite 145 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.439 developer Rebellion lays out a solid plan to thrive in 146 00:06:51.519 --> 00:06:55.240 a wasteland of nuclear apocalypse games. Rather than apeing Fallout 147 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:59.560 or Stalker's action action RPG formula, the more streamlined Adam 148 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:03.360 Falls scavenges together some original ideas and its deconstructed quest 149 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.759 and an emphasis on bartering that could have made for 150 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:10.000 a compelling survival story built around open into exploration, but 151 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:12.439 it's those pesky details that will get you killed during 152 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:14.920 a nuclear disaster. And you know, I think that's kind 153 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:16.720 of what we're hearing about this game is it's got 154 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.079 some ideas, maybe doesn't all come together, but eight out 155 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:24.759 of ten though, from Push Square, where it is written 156 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.399 that Adam Fall commits to embodying everything it means to 157 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.680 be British and it comes out the other side all 158 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.720 the better for it. The mystery at the heart of 159 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.920 the alternate nineteen sixties settings is gripping forever teasing clues 160 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.920 and solutions to a way out of its rural quarantine zone. 161 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:43.800 Its combat systems and mechanics let the experience down but 162 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:47.360 Rebellion's latest peaks. Latest peaks when it makes you the 163 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.519 countryside's inspector gadget with a bunch of leads to pursue 164 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:54.519 and village folk to suspect, and then four starts from Dexerdo, 165 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:57.839 where the review reads, Adam Fall shakes off the Fallout 166 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:00.279 comparisons and stands on its own as a captivating sci 167 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:04.720 fi mystery. The gripping central story and wonderfully realized setting 168 00:08:04.720 --> 00:08:07.079 make it easy to forget about its shortcomings, and the 169 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:09.879 lack of handholding is a refreshing change that other open 170 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.399 world games like Elder Scrolls or Assassin's Creed should take 171 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.439 note of. I mean him, I read all that stuff, 172 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:18.560 and again, like you have talked to some people who 173 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:21.160 are enjoying it, it sounds a lot like my bullshit. 174 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:23.279 It sounds like my kind of game. So I'm definitely 175 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:24.879 going to spend some time with us. I hope it 176 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.199 hits for me, but I think this is one of 177 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:29.040 those games. It's like, you know, it is going to 178 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:30.560 find an audience. It is going to hit for. 179 00:08:30.519 --> 00:08:33.519 Some people, and I think for me contextually looking at it, 180 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:38.240 Rebellion has been making and primarily been known for these 181 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:41.879 Sniper League games from like twenty fifteen earlier than that, 182 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:43.759 even it see the Sniper early of the all the 183 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:47.600 Zombie Army games, and for better or for worse, they've 184 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.799 kind of been channing them those out with not like 185 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.799 phoning it in. They try and make some kind of 186 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:58.200 evolutionary steps within I have tried to make evolutionary steps 187 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:01.720 within those properties. But I'm glad that they have, you know, 188 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:05.039 done a full pivot into something brand new and IP 189 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.480 and it seems to be launching with some fanfare and 190 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:13.240 is received well. Not every game, you know, is going 191 00:09:13.320 --> 00:09:15.720 to be a banger, like ten out of ten out 192 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:18.639 the gate, but foundationally speaking, I think it's a good 193 00:09:18.679 --> 00:09:20.679 case for them to be like, we should make more 194 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.080 Atom Fall, or we should make more something like Adam 195 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.519 for or a new IP. Look how it went well, 196 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:29.240 We needed to another crack at this, and we can 197 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.639 make it even better. Don't just throw us back into 198 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.519 these sniper elite minds, you know what I mean. So 199 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:38.399 I'm glad that Rebellion took a shot at this, and 200 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.399 I'm glad that it's come out pretty good. 201 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.679 Yeah, And I like I've gained a level of respect 202 00:09:44.840 --> 00:09:48.559 these days for developers that make their game and kind 203 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:50.120 of make it over and over again and try to 204 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.720 refine it and try to make it, you know, on 205 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:55.000 on the cheap is just the wrong term, but in 206 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:59.039 a way that is sustainable and reuses assets in smart 207 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.200 ways and kind of get and then also gives players 208 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:01.720 what they want. 209 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:01.919 Right. 210 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:03.799 Every time I get a Sniper Leak game these days, 211 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:06.320 of course, I want to shoot Hitler and the balls. 212 00:10:06.200 --> 00:10:07.440 And they always have that. 213 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:10.080 They're like, yeah, we know, we have we have that 214 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:13.559 for you, of course, and it's like, okay, yeah, they 215 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:15.200 could be like, well, you know we did that last game. 216 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.360 I'm like, no, come on, we all know what's happening here. 217 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:19.399 We all know what you're what you're down for. 218 00:10:19.919 --> 00:10:22.519 And I am at a point now where it's like 219 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.120 I see another Sniper Elite and I've not played most 220 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:27.360 of the games in the series, people in Chadow mentioning 221 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:29.679 It came out originally for the PS two in two 222 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:32.720 thousand and five, so franchise has been around for a 223 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:35.159 long time, but it's sort of won me over in 224 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.080 the recent ones, where you know, we've had a fun 225 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:39.879 stream with the previous one and this more the more 226 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:43.559 the most recent expand alone game. I tried that on 227 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.759 stream as well and was enjoying it. I just like, 228 00:10:47.159 --> 00:10:49.200 like when when a studio finds their niche and makes 229 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:51.960 it work, and then what you said, Tam, I am 230 00:10:52.080 --> 00:10:53.960 very happy that they are then able to like take 231 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:57.200 that machine that they've built to produce those games over 232 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:58.879 and over again. I'd be like, Okay, now can we 233 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.360 build something over here or parallel to that that can 234 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.759 use our experience and make something brand new that can 235 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:07.679 that can make a little bit of a splash. 236 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:08.799 You know, it's on game Pass. 237 00:11:08.799 --> 00:11:11.279 People are gonna play this game, and it just feels 238 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:14.919 like they have figured out again something rather sustainable that 239 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.559 this game should hit well enough that it can fit 240 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:19.480 into if they want to make another Atom Fall, they 241 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:20.759 would be able to do that, And of course then 242 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:23.960 they'd have the experience of taking a game, refining it 243 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.000 and releasing a sequel. 244 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.120 Yeah, for sure. And you got to imagine there's some 245 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:33.039 benefit in doing that when assigning a deal with game Pass, 246 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:36.200 Like there's some sort of leg up that you get there, 247 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.399 so that a base level of success is what I'd 248 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:40.559 probably describe it. 249 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:41.159 Yep. 250 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:44.639 And you know, it's the kind of thing where it 251 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:46.320 has a little bit of success. They could also keep 252 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.639 updating it for quite some time and we'll see how 253 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:52.360 they're able to capitalize on any of this attention for 254 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:55.279 this game. Looking forward to trying it personally. All right, 255 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.039 let's get to some of these other headlines. Xbox App 256 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.639 update will show your Steam and Epic games, according to 257 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.200 a report. This comes from Georgiang at GameSpot. Microsoft has 258 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:08.399 recently revealed a new UI mockup for Xbox that shows 259 00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:10.759 what game players own across a variety of Steam devices 260 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.840 in storefronts, including Steam. As spotted by The Verge, Microsoft 261 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.000 posted a new blog post that had a picture of 262 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:19.559 the proposed UI, but it's subsequently removed. In the picture, 263 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.720 you can see games like Diabolo form, Diablo Floor four 264 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:27.600 not floor, and Microsoft Flight Simulator not flo to simulator 265 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:31.279 in the recently a added in the UI, so basically 266 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.240 there's a Steam tab there. However, you can also see 267 00:12:34.279 --> 00:12:36.600 the Steam and Game Past tabs side by side, indicating 268 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:38.279 that you'll be able to see sort or you'll be 269 00:12:38.320 --> 00:12:40.679 able to sort games based on which platform you purchase 270 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.320 them on. It seems like the UI is just a 271 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.799 mockup for now, as the owned and Action adventure tabs 272 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:49.639 are listed twice. The blog post is about how Xbox 273 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:52.679 is trying to reach a larger audience as young generations 274 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:57.919 regularly switch between platforms and expect seamless integration. Mostly this 275 00:12:58.200 --> 00:13:03.080 is worth bringing up because it does seem like Microsoft 276 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.759 is mentioned in the past that they are The rumor 277 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:09.320 has been that Microsoft will integrate stores like Steam into 278 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.759 new Xbox hardware, and this could be a look at that. 279 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:16.159 But also the verse is heard here. Microsoft is in 280 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:19.039 fact currently working on an Xbox app update that will 281 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.120 that will let players see all the games that they 282 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.080 own through Steam and Epic Game Store. So it's like 283 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:25.840 this is something that's not just in the mock up. 284 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.919 They are going to try to implement this, And Tim, 285 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:30.919 I just do you think this is something that moves 286 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:34.720 the needle for anything. I mean, I'm not really sure 287 00:13:34.759 --> 00:13:36.639 that it's needle no. 288 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:40.919 I mean, I think the intent is pretty clear, like 289 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:46.240 when you make it possible to unify multiple digital stores, 290 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.559 I don't think the outcome that is intended necessarily is to, 291 00:13:51.279 --> 00:13:55.240 you know, make it easier to that's the only thing 292 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:56.759 that they want to do. They want to make sure 293 00:13:56.799 --> 00:13:59.559 that you spend more time on their service because there's 294 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:03.559 an increased chance and likelihood that you'll spend money on 295 00:14:03.639 --> 00:14:07.039 something they're selling in the store that's connected to it. 296 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:11.679 That's the business case behind it, which makes a lot 297 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.200 of sense. I think Gog does something similar like that. 298 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:17.679 I just saw Chuck Tawski's mentioned that in chat and 299 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.559 I'm like, oh, yeah, I remember that. They made it 300 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:22.960 so you could like sort of gather all the games 301 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.200 you want from other platforms and then launch them all 302 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:26.240 from inside of GOG. 303 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.600 Yeah. I think Steam does that as well, because I 304 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.960 know I put Assassin's Creed, which is on the games 305 00:14:32.200 --> 00:14:34.480 you can add non Steam games. It doesn't like look 306 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.279 great or anything like that, but if you spend the 307 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:38.799 time to fitle with it, you can make it. But yeah, 308 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:42.320 I think for Microsoft the goal is to have you 309 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.159 spend more time on their platform, which makes a lot 310 00:14:45.159 --> 00:14:48.480 of sense. Yeah, it doesn't move the needle. I don't 311 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:51.360 think I'm going to be firing up you know, the 312 00:14:51.519 --> 00:14:54.600 Microsoft Xbox Service or the whatever it may be game 313 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:59.720 service on PC before Steam. My Gaming PC boots directly 314 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.240 in to big picture mode. Really, so yeah, like, well 315 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:06.399 at least one of them does, sure, Because I'm bawling 316 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:10.080 on a budget and I got two of them, so 317 00:15:10.080 --> 00:15:13.600 so you'd have to kind of I will kick and 318 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:19.279 scream when I'm being torn away from Steam boss rhymed 319 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:21.679 by accident. I'll take it. 320 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:22.639 I like it. 321 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:28.320 Yeah, I was speculating on another show last night that 322 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.000 there's the made the possibility here because we know that 323 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.759 Microsoft and Epic have a pretty close relationship. They like 324 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:37.480 were helping each other out when Epic was suing Google 325 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:40.679 and Apple for like, hey, open up your stores, open 326 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:43.600 up your devices so we can put stores into your stores, 327 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:47.200 things like that, and so I'm like not surprised to 328 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:49.559 see that Epic would be a part of this, but maybe, 329 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.320 like when when it comes to Valve, which also has 330 00:15:52.320 --> 00:15:54.840 a pretty good relationship with Microsoft, Xbox puts all of 331 00:15:54.879 --> 00:15:56.720 their games on Steam now at least to all the 332 00:15:56.720 --> 00:15:59.639 ones that come to PC, and I wonder if there's 333 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:03.200 a chance a little quid pro quote here where Steam 334 00:16:03.279 --> 00:16:06.399 gets integrated into this app and then eventually does get 335 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.759 integrated into the next console along with Epic Game Store. 336 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:13.080 And because Steam is available there, so people could buy 337 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:15.159 games on Steam and then go play them on their 338 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.759 Xbox without giving any money to Microsoft. Wonder if maybe 339 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.879 Microsoft's thinking well, could we get a good cut on 340 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:25.480 selling game Pass on Steam then? And I think maybe 341 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.720 there might be that kind of situation because I remember 342 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:31.879 previously hearing like the way Apex Legends and EA Play 343 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.879 on Steam went down was Steam went to EA's like, hey, 344 00:16:34.919 --> 00:16:39.080 can we get Apex Legends onto Steam? And eas well, 345 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:42.120 can we get EA play or onto Steam as well? 346 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.559 And like you let us have a pretty decent deal there, 347 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.159 and so like Valve has made those deals before, I 348 00:16:47.159 --> 00:16:50.000 wonder if something could result in something similar here for 349 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:51.480 Microsoft and game Pass. 350 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:56.360 Yeah, it's very possible. Like I said, I don't, I 351 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:58.399 feel like it would take a while for the fruits 352 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.679 of that labor to really bear any fruit. I agree 353 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:05.119 or that it makes sense, but ignore me it's right. Yeah, yeah, 354 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:06.759 it will take a while for that to prove to 355 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:09.079 be in any real major benefit, And I do wonder 356 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.720 how much benefit they get. I feel like in the case, 357 00:17:11.759 --> 00:17:13.880 it makes more sense because the barrier to entry to 358 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:17.000 an Apex Legend is nothing. It's free, right, So once 359 00:17:17.000 --> 00:17:18.640 they're in there, they get a lot of money out 360 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.519 of it. So that is a good reason to have 361 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:26.240 that available there. But trying to factor it into like 362 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:30.359 sales performance is perhaps not the best approach for now. 363 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:34.079 I imagine mostly in most of these deals that the dent 364 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.480 that I'm in, like another platform makes to to like 365 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:40.160 see how much your own game sales are isn't significant? 366 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:44.559 But I don't. I don't think it's unlikely. I don't 367 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:48.240 think it will change anything for people in a major way. 368 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.359 Like I don't. I'm not the kind of person that 369 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:54.960 boots up multiple digital services on a day to day basis. 370 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:57.599 Like I I couldn't tell you the last time I 371 00:17:57.640 --> 00:17:59.960 booted up in the EA Origin for anything. 372 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:03.559 I'm putting up a connect right now for Assassin's Career, 373 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:04.079 and it's. 374 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.359 Like I'm from nineteen ninety seven. Yeah. 375 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:10.480 When I do that, I'm like, look there there's some 376 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:13.440 features here, the clouds save integration for you stuff. Connect 377 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.039 is actually pretty good. I'm like, but still not going 378 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.440 to use this thing. I'm just going to default the 379 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:19.319 Steam like I think most people end up doing. 380 00:18:19.400 --> 00:18:19.519 Uh. 381 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:24.119 Jesse Norrison Chap points out correctly that the Microsoft Store 382 00:18:24.160 --> 00:18:26.599 on PC, I think a couple of years ago it 383 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:30.519 went in a direction of taking as zero percent cut 384 00:18:30.559 --> 00:18:34.640 of sales from third party developers and publishers. 385 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:37.359 I think at least if they use their own payment processing, 386 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:38.200 it might be entirely. 387 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:39.960 But if they use their own payment processing, I think 388 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:42.599 it's like, no, you can have an entirely like you 389 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:46.160 own all of the money from any transaction that you create, 390 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:47.519 even through our store. 391 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:51.240 So this would like the changes. 392 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:54.039 Here might apply to a hypothetical events reality where we 393 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:55.880 get to a point where this stuff is happening on 394 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:57.759 console as well, where they don't do that, where they 395 00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:01.480 do still take a cut. But that also seems like 396 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:03.559 that is coming where the next Xbox is going to 397 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:05.559 be a place where you can access your Steam games, 398 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.839 access Epic Game Store games, and it's basically basically going 399 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:10.799 to be a PC with an Xbox layer on top 400 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:16.640 of it all right. FBC Firebreak launches this summer. This 401 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:20.079