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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Deb.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowen and I'm Samantha Fay.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited that you have joined us this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We thought this would be a perfect time to have

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion about to row and the holidays. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that might seem a little stretched to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but bear with us. Sit back, make a cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretend you're sitting around a Victorian fire, and here we go. Ready, Savannah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, Okay. So let's set the stage for this

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about to row and the new year by traveling

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Victorian era in England, maybe even a

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<v Speaker 1>bit earlier. Imagine that you're in a parlor with three

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<v Speaker 1>young women seated before a blazing fire while snow falls

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<v Speaker 1>steadily in the dark sky outside. Divination of many sorts

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<v Speaker 1>was all the rage during the Victorian era, particularly in winter.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps it was the darkness, the darkest time of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>that called forth the practice of telling ghost stories and

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<v Speaker 1>engaging in divination during the winter solstice, Christmas, and New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's holidays. Perhaps it was the weather, cold, rain and

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<v Speaker 1>snow that forced families to huddle together before the fire,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing shapes rise in the flames. Perhaps it was boredom

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<v Speaker 1>all those people gathered inside for the holiday with nothing

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<v Speaker 1>left to talk about. Perhaps it was hopefulness about good

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<v Speaker 1>fortune coming in the new year. Perhaps it was all

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<v Speaker 1>of these and one more factor that caused a rise

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<v Speaker 1>in the practice of telling ghost stories and engaging in

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<v Speaker 1>divination during the winter holidays. In the Victorian era, Charles

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<v Speaker 1>Dickens published a Christmas Carol on December nineteenth, eighteen forty three,

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<v Speaker 1>and with that the best seller of its day. A

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<v Speaker 1>tradition of focusing on the occult during the winter holidays

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<v Speaker 1>was the rage in affluent households in Britain. Not only

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<v Speaker 1>were ghost stories told, but many ways of divining the

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<v Speaker 1>future were practiced, particularly by young women seeking love and husbands. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that thereu was the leading detonation tool

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<v Speaker 1>among the British wealthy in the Victorian era, but therow

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<v Speaker 1>certainly was gaining popularity in more esoteric circles at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I can attest that tureau is certainly a divination tool

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<v Speaker 1>used by many the world over. As the season shifts

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<v Speaker 1>towards solstice and the calendar heralds a new year on

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<v Speaker 1>January first, so let's take a deep dive into what

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<v Speaker 1>Tureau may offer these three women. We're going to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on three cards, which by the way, are really often

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<v Speaker 1>more rightly called keys that might have been of interest

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<v Speaker 1>to Victorian era folks gathered around the hearth on a

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<v Speaker 1>cold winner's night, And let's take a deep dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the symbolism of these cards. Samantha, you want to share

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<v Speaker 1>with us what Carl Young had to say about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he really looked a lot into the symbolism on

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<v Speaker 2>the Turot cards, and a lot of people believe he

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<v Speaker 2>derives some of his ideas for the universal archetypes from

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<v Speaker 2>the taruro cards. He believed the symbols on the cards

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<v Speaker 2>presented a rhythm of negative and positive, loss and gain,

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<v Speaker 2>dark and light. It's beginning, he said. It's characterized by

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<v Speaker 2>ones getting stuck in a blind alley or in some

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<v Speaker 2>impossible situation, and its goal, broadly speaking, is illumination or

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<v Speaker 2>higher consciousness. This symbolic process of illumination in the Touau,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, begins with the fool. Weight describes the fool

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<v Speaker 2>as the spirit in search of experience, who's in the

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<v Speaker 2>impossible situation of being just about to plunge off a

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<v Speaker 2>cliff or take a beautiful leap of faith, and it

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<v Speaker 2>ends with the world, which Weight described as the perfection

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<v Speaker 2>and the end of the cosmos, the secret within it,

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<v Speaker 2>the rapture of the universe when it understands itself. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do you fall in the trajectory of this journey at

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<v Speaker 2>this stage of your life? I think that's always an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting question to think about, you know how, dev when

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<v Speaker 2>you Teachterurou, you always tell your students to lay out

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<v Speaker 2>the major arcana and look at it as a journey

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<v Speaker 2>through your life. You starting out as the fool, whether

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<v Speaker 2>you young sees that as an impossible situation about to

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<v Speaker 2>fall off a cliff, I always see the fool as

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<v Speaker 2>full of wonder and hope and optimism, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>it ends with the world card of fulfillment. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a good thing to kind of ponder as we

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up the year, where do you fall on that

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<v Speaker 2>journey from the fool to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and the folks who have been enrolled in the

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<v Speaker 1>Fool's journey, of course the Fool's Calling course, have been

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<v Speaker 1>taught that exactly what you're saying is that we are

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<v Speaker 1>the fool. We are on that life's journey and we

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<v Speaker 1>travel and forward and we learn and we grow, we

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<v Speaker 1>have setbacks. I mean, it really is the mirror for

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<v Speaker 1>one's life journey. If you look at the journey through

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<v Speaker 1>the major arcana and the minor arkana suits our support

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<v Speaker 1>information for what one needs to learn in a journey.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a question for you. I read when

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing an overview of some notes for today's

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<v Speaker 2>show that we and Pamela had a disagreement about where

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<v Speaker 2>to please the fool card.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, there were lots of disagreements not only between Weight

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<v Speaker 1>and Pamela, but between other theorists as well, about placements

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<v Speaker 1>of several cards. The fool is certainly one. Another is

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<v Speaker 1>the strength key where and then I'm getting totally off

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<v Speaker 1>topic here, but for a minute, but the strength key

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<v Speaker 1>is key eight, but there was some discussion that it

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<v Speaker 1>should be switched with key eleven, which is the Justice key,

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<v Speaker 1>And that controversy between those two keys went on and

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<v Speaker 1>on and on for a long time before it was

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<v Speaker 1>finally settled in the Weight Rider deck that Strength would

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<v Speaker 1>be eight and Justice would be eleven, which makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>because eleven is also two, and that's about balance and

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<v Speaker 1>fairness and all those numerological components connected to that.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Key, the justice key, Lady Justice is there with a

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<v Speaker 1>sword in one hand, the sword of justice, and the

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<v Speaker 1>scales of balance and justice in the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, that debate always made sense to me. But

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<v Speaker 2>the full debate between those two, I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>about not so much placing the full at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was more about the numerology. Should it

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<v Speaker 2>be the zero card or the one card?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Okay, well, that is indeed a controversy as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the zero transcends numerology, which I think was what won

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<v Speaker 1>out in the end, obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I agree with that one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too. Okay, so let's move on. Okay, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back to our Victorian parlor. So, perhaps you

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<v Speaker 1>and these young women are wondering about love or money,

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<v Speaker 1>health careers. And since young women back in our Victorian

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<v Speaker 1>wintry story practiced divination for questions regarding love and marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with the burning question one of these women has,

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<v Speaker 1>will I be loved and married you? The reader shuffle

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<v Speaker 1>the deck and the lover's key appears. Let's discuss that

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<v Speaker 1>key as we might view it intoday's world. At first glance,

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<v Speaker 1>this key, and we're working here as we're talking, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way out of the traditional weight rider Smith deck.

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<v Speaker 1>So at first glance, the Lover's Key is very straightforward.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a man and a woman standing naked before two

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<v Speaker 1>very different trees and what we might take to be

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<v Speaker 1>the garden of Eden. The man stands before a tree

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<v Speaker 1>whose twelve leaves are flames, not leaves, but flames, representing

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve signs of the zodiac. The woman stands before

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<v Speaker 1>the tree of knowledge of good and evil. It spowls

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<v Speaker 1>laden with fruit, and a serpent slithering down its trunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Above them is Archangel, the angel of healing. You might

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<v Speaker 1>consider that this key is both validation that a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is in the offing and a cautionary tale to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful in the blissfulness of the garden. But wait, when

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<v Speaker 1>studying to Row, there is always more, always a deeper meaning,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what makes to Row such an amazingly rich

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<v Speaker 1>divination tool. The Lover's Key not only represents male and

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<v Speaker 1>female energy, and we'll come back and talk a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more about that in a minute, but it representents the

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<v Speaker 1>notion of polar energies, often seen as a key of

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<v Speaker 1>romantic relationships. This key also sometimes is said to depict

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<v Speaker 1>humanity's fall from grace. However, the symbolic connection between the

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<v Speaker 1>snake and the feminine is far older than its connection

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<v Speaker 1>to Judaism and the Garden of Eden. The relationship betwe

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<v Speaker 1>hearkens back to a time when the snake was sacred

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<v Speaker 1>to the goddess in matriarchal goddess worshiping societies, many of

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<v Speaker 1>which were there in that Mesopotamian area of the globe.

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<v Speaker 1>So the snake represents a transmutation of being. Rather than

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<v Speaker 1>representing evil, the snake represents our ability to shed what

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<v Speaker 1>no longer serves us, and our ability to transform ourself

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<v Speaker 1>and learn and grow and become new. Another aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>this card is the notion of an internal balance of

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<v Speaker 1>self of energies, a continuum of positive emotions towards oneself

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole universe. So, rather than thinking in polarities

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<v Speaker 1>of masculine feminine, I think in terms of a continuum.

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<v Speaker 1>This is indicated by the willingness of the figures to

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<v Speaker 1>be exposed physically, and by connection to the astrology and

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<v Speaker 1>to the concept of the knowledge of good and evil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The Lover's card asks us to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>union of not only two people, but also two aspects

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<v Speaker 2>of ourselves, which is why this card is often about choices.

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<v Speaker 2>The male aspect represents our intellect, reason, and conscious choices,

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<v Speaker 2>while the female symbolizes our connection to our intuition and

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<v Speaker 2>subconscious desires. The Lover's card reminds us of the power

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<v Speaker 2>of love and that as long as we focus on

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<v Speaker 2>love in all its forms and guises, we will ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>make the right choice.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's true. I think the Lover's card

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<v Speaker 1>invites us to look at love in so many different ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and it gives us a view of archetypes, those symbols

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<v Speaker 1>that are often available to us, to see a glimpse

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<v Speaker 1>of all of us. Call Young coin the term animus

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<v Speaker 1>for masculine and anima feminine to describe sets of traits

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<v Speaker 1>and symbols that he believe relates to all of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Young says that each of us carry within us qualities

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<v Speaker 1>of the other gender. Today, of course, I invite you

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<v Speaker 1>to think of those qualities as a part of all

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<v Speaker 1>of us on a continuum, rather than polar opposites. When

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<v Speaker 1>we find the balance of male and female energy within ourselves,

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<v Speaker 1>we find wholeness. According to some metaphysics, the female figure

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<v Speaker 1>in the key, representing the unconscious mind, stands before the

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<v Speaker 1>tree of knowledge of good and evil, and she has

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<v Speaker 1>an awareness of both the five human senses and those

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<v Speaker 1>metaphysical senses beyond. The male figure, representing the conscious mind,

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<v Speaker 1>stands before the leafless tree bearing the twelve flames of

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve signs of the zodiac, indicating an awareness of

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic connections beyond our human comprehension. And the nakedness of

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<v Speaker 1>the figures indicates there is nothing to hide, and that

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<v Speaker 1>harmony in life depends on a balance of the unconscious

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<v Speaker 1>and conscious mind. But let's not forget the angel o

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<v Speaker 1>angel Raphael offers above the figures in the clouds. Rafael

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<v Speaker 1>is the angel of Air whose benediction is poured down

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<v Speaker 1>on us all. In the Gudeo Christian tradition, Rafael is

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<v Speaker 1>the archangel of healing. Might it be that when we

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<v Speaker 1>find a balance of energies in ourselves, that we honor

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<v Speaker 1>our connection to the cosmos and it's spinning cycles, and

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<v Speaker 1>give ourselves permission to transmute our very being into something

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<v Speaker 1>new we are indeed healed. Note that the man is

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the woman while she looks at the age,

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<v Speaker 1>and the angel looks down on them both. This triangle

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<v Speaker 1>reminds us that, no matter how much we think, we

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<v Speaker 1>must also feel deeply in order to connect to the

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<v Speaker 1>conscious mind, the cosmic posteousness. One more thing, though, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to look at as we're looking at this key,

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<v Speaker 1>most common is that the mountain represents fruitfulness. In my research,

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<v Speaker 1>to face later. Who among us has not had cycles

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<v Speaker 1>in relationships that we've needed to face. Let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>the colors in the key too. That bright sun and

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<v Speaker 1>Raphael's red wings and the flaming leaves of his crown,

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<v Speaker 1>The red fruit and the flaming leaves on the trees,

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<v Speaker 1>and the red slash orange of the mountains indicate passion

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<v Speaker 1>and action. Lots of red on this card, the green

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<v Speaker 1>on Rafael's crown on the tree behind the woman, on

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<v Speaker 1>and the gray of Rafael's gown and the clouds beneath

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<v Speaker 1>him indicate that there will always be the unknown that

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<v Speaker 1>we may never know. The Lover's key is the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>key in the major Arcana, a number associated with home relationships, healing,

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<v Speaker 1>and harmony. What better number could the lovers key be

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<v Speaker 1>than sick? You want to add to that, Samantha, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank God? Okay, yeah. So the Lover's card asks

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<v Speaker 2>us to focus on the choices we're making for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Do our choices reflect our true desires that arise from

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<v Speaker 2>in other people's expectations of us or fear of being

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<v Speaker 2>alone and hurt? The Lover's card reminds us that the

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<v Speaker 2>transformative power of love will always lead us in the

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<v Speaker 2>right direction if we first start with loving and healing ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it is so true. And again, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I think is so incredibly wonderful about

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<v Speaker 1>to Row is that the layers of information and learning

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<v Speaker 1>really never stop and it's so much fun. So while

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<v Speaker 1>we've put a lot of information out there about this

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<v Speaker 1>particular card to you, what we've suggested here is that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to have all of this stored in your

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<v Speaker 1>memory when you're doing a reading, and you can pull

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<v Speaker 1>it all up in an instant. Now, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds daunting, but it's really not, because you certainly don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to a reading share all of this information in

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<v Speaker 1>details and symbology with the person for whom you're reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the queert wants to hear all of this and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes not. For example, our impatient young Victorian woman says, enough,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me if my beloved awaits me and you

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<v Speaker 1>the wise interpreter of the keys responds, it appears so,

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<v Speaker 1>But you must first also love yourself and the world

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<v Speaker 1>around you. You attract what you radiate.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so beautiful and so true, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important when giving a reading to give a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of the foundation of the card and the numerology

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<v Speaker 2>and what the symbols mean before just jumping right to

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's true, and particularly if you're doing a true

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<v Speaker 1>reading with a Celtic cross spread. You need to look

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<v Speaker 1>at thet each card on the table in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you in relationship and context to the keys around it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's fun to figure all of that outsy putting

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<v Speaker 2>Well before we get to the next card on this

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian Ladies reading table, let's take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be right back. I am so excited to let

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<v Speaker 2>class partner exercises with real time feedback. Also in January,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm teaching my Manifesting class to help you kickstart your

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<v Speaker 2>new year goals. And in February, I'm teaching my be

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<v Speaker 2>How about you, dev What do you have coming up?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, okay, dev what's the next card you pulled

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<v Speaker 2>for our reading?

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<v Speaker 1>The Three of Pentacles? So now we're in the minor

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<v Speaker 1>Arcanas and the Suit of Pentacles. And another question that

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<v Speaker 1>burns on the lips of our Victorian friends seated around

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<v Speaker 1>the heart is a question of money at stability? Will

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<v Speaker 1>I be wealthy or at least comfortable? They ask? So you,

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<v Speaker 1>the reader, close your eyes, ask for guidance, shuffle the deck,

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<v Speaker 1>and randomly pull the Free of Pentacles. I love this card.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of my favorite cards in the deck. The

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<v Speaker 1>Three of Pentacles depicts a monk and a nun watching

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<v Speaker 1>a stonemation finish his masterful work on a medieval cathedral archway,

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<v Speaker 1>which is topped by three pentacles. Much in this key

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<v Speaker 1>is about numerology and needs to be considered in your answer,

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<v Speaker 1>and will address numerology in a moment. And golly, could

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<v Speaker 1>I go off on a tangent about watching the beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>opening of Notre Dame. So let's talk about Pentacles as

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<v Speaker 1>a suit first. It is the suit of groundedness, of stability,

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<v Speaker 1>of security, and is sometimes called the suit of coins,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is the suit of our relationship to money

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<v Speaker 1>and finances. Keep in mind that the cost of building

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<v Speaker 1>the great cathedrals was and of course still is tremendous.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look at what has gone into the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money to reconstruct Notre Dame. But of course there's more

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<v Speaker 1>to coins than meet the eye. So much of the

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<v Speaker 1>building of the great cathedrals in the Middle Ages was

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<v Speaker 1>based on sacred geometry. Oh, I cannot urge you enough

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<v Speaker 1>to read Ken Filette's amazing book The Pillars of the Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>my all time favorite. Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Really it really is. I've read it three or four times.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that book, and I have watched several interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with him on YouTube. And what a fascinating man he is.

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<v Speaker 2>And he has a new book out.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he does.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. We gotta check it out, all right, I digress,

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So read Ken Filette's book, The Pillars

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth. Okay. The Three of Pentacles is one

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<v Speaker 1>of Theo's hallmark keys about sacred geometry. Three is the

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<v Speaker 1>number of balance and completion. So it is no accident

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<v Speaker 1>that the key is about building a cathedral and its

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<v Speaker 1>number is three. Notice the pentacles themselves of the word

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<v Speaker 1>penta is from the Greek and it means five. The

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<v Speaker 1>five points on the pentacles represent the four directions and

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<v Speaker 1>four elements eastern, air, south and fire, west and water,

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<v Speaker 1>all that is. And an interesting note is that these

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<v Speaker 1>pentacles with their five sides each adds up to the

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<v Speaker 1>number fifteen, which when reduced is six, and we're back

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<v Speaker 1>to six, the number of relationships and home and stability. So, Samantha,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a perspective on what the three appentacles means

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<v Speaker 1>in a reading. Tell us your thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. To me, this card always represents success coming from teamwork, collaboration,

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<v Speaker 2>and a group working together. So I always see the

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<v Speaker 2>three pentacles as a card of encouragement, gently prodding you

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<v Speaker 2>to go after your dream. It often comes up if

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<v Speaker 2>someone's like thinking about starting a side business, an entrepreneurship thing,

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<v Speaker 2>or they're wondering if they can make money from their

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<v Speaker 2>writing or their art or their music. I always see

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<v Speaker 2>the man and the woman as benefactors, kind of encouraging

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<v Speaker 2>the creative person in the reading to keep going on,

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<v Speaker 2>to keep building three is also the number of reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out to others. You know. Numerology, the number three is

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<v Speaker 2>the card of communication, connection, and creativity. So often this

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<v Speaker 2>card indicates a need to enlist help and getting your

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<v Speaker 2>goal off to a good start. You might have to

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<v Speaker 2>team up, collab network. The three pentacles also points to

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<v Speaker 2>a need to start to carefully plan the steps needed

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<v Speaker 2>to accomplish your goal. This card assures you that you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the right idea and now it's time to start

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<v Speaker 2>implementing steps needed to make this goal or dream become

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<v Speaker 2>a reality. It can also signify that you've had an

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<v Speaker 2>Aha moment or will have an inspirational idea and are

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<v Speaker 2>finally ready to take action on it. So, for me,

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<v Speaker 2>keywords for this card are apprentice, student, didn't mentor group efforts,

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<v Speaker 2>all that good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And while I don't disagree with you, I would also

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<v Speaker 1>invite folks to think of three in terms of a trinity,

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<v Speaker 1>a trilogy again within oneself, mother, maiden, chron father, son,

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<v Speaker 1>holy ghost, mind, body, spirit. Those are other aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the number three that I think are important. And while

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<v Speaker 1>I see your point here about being an apprentice, for

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps working your way in connection with other people to

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<v Speaker 1>a goal, I also see it as you already carry

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<v Speaker 1>within you the qualities you need to achieve that goal,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you stay yourself within balance and connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the sacredness of the work you're doing here on earth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I totally agree with that. I have a funny

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<v Speaker 2>story to tell about the number three. In my rock

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<v Speaker 2>your numbers. I always try to give a little background

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<v Speaker 2>on what the numbers mean in your birth date, and

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<v Speaker 2>Pythagoras always said that the number three was a number

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<v Speaker 2>of creativity because he said, the number one marries the

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<v Speaker 2>number two and together they create the number three. And

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<v Speaker 2>so that's why it's, you know, representative of the Empress

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<v Speaker 2>key card, for example, is the number three key card,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's all about fruitfulness and fertility and creativity. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I had put all of that in one woman's

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<v Speaker 2>report and she Eve will be back, and she said

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<v Speaker 2>everything in the report made sense except I'm too old

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<v Speaker 2>to get married, so I don't know how the number

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<v Speaker 2>three applies to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, no, no, no, the numbers are

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<v Speaker 2>marrying each other and that that really confused her.

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<v Speaker 1>So just more symbology, absolutely, And you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that the symbology seems daunting. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that that's my students enjoy but we really sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>turn them into real life? And my question, offways is

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<v Speaker 1>exactly the opposite. Real life is full of symbols. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all around us. And when we can start thinking in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of symbols and really learning connection among different world

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<v Speaker 1>beliefs and world cultures, which is I think truly the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate gift of to Row. It really does bring us

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<v Speaker 1>together in so many ways. I think that then you

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<v Speaker 1>begin to see the world in a different and deeper way.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that in terms of working with Touro,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll talk more about that as we wrap up,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's finish up here with the free appentacles. So

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<v Speaker 1>after we've done all this talking, our Victorian ladies want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, are we going to get rich? Is their

429
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<v Speaker 1>wealth in our future? Yes, says to Row, But you

430
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<v Speaker 1>must work for it. Remember to develop that creative spark

431
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<v Speaker 1>within you. Learn your trade, own your skill, and work

432
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<v Speaker 1>your artistry and craft well and honorably, because remember this

433
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<v Speaker 1>is such a key of artistry, the work that it

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<v Speaker 1>takes to chisel those pentacles into that stone. That's amazing work.

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<v Speaker 1>These are true artists and it's a beautiful thing to see,

436
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>and we are all artists in our own way.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really I don't really want to hear that

438
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<v Speaker 2>in a reading deb I don't want to hear you

439
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.119
<v Speaker 2>got to work for your money. I wanted to roll

440
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<v Speaker 2>card that says today you're winning the lottery.

441
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<v Speaker 1>When you find that card, would you also buy that

442
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<v Speaker 1>deck for me?

443
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 2>I know, maybe sometimes the Nina cubs because I always

444
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<v Speaker 2>look at that one possible meeting of that card as

445
00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:51.119
<v Speaker 2>wish is fulfilled. But I have to be honest. I

446
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 2>think every card in the tureau has the same message

447
00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:57.720
<v Speaker 2>of you've got girl, you've got work to do.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's okay, cause that's why, oh yeah.

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00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:05.640
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, Well why sometimes I just want one card

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<v Speaker 2>to say, sit back, we got this, you have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do nothing, Okay, you let me know when you get it. Okay,

452
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<v Speaker 1>I will.

453
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<v Speaker 2>We'll just have to create it then.

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<v Speaker 1>And would it be an honest deck?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that. So while we're on the subject of symbols,

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<v Speaker 1>good golly, let's talk about some symbols. So the heart

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<v Speaker 1>this fire is beginning to die down, and there's time

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<v Speaker 1>for one more question. And the quietest of the young

460
00:29:34.920 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>women ask, will my dream of being a writer as

461
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.799
<v Speaker 1>famous as mister Dickens come true? You shuffle the deck,

462
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.759
<v Speaker 1>say your prayer, always say your prayer, and pull the

463
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>seven of cups from the deck. Who, boy, do you

464
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<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath? Indeed, this is the key of dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are many in the deck, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>And what.

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<v Speaker 1>The suit of cups itself is the suit of emotions,

469
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<v Speaker 1>of introspection, of finding balance between the conscious and the unconscious.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind is the suit of the West, and the element

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<v Speaker 1>of water. Seven is a mystical number, the number of

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<v Speaker 1>the seeker, the mystic, the one who has to have

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<v Speaker 1>a deep connection to spirit. So in the picture on

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<v Speaker 1>the cart, a man stands before seven cups, each containing

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<v Speaker 1>a lesson in life to be learned. In one cup

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<v Speaker 1>there is a castle, in the next a cup overflowing

477
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:42.519
<v Speaker 1>with jewels, then a wreath of victory with a skull

478
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<v Speaker 1>adorning the cup, and then the dragon of temptation, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the fifth cup is the head of a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>On the sixth cup is the serpent of jealousy, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle a cup larger than the rest. The

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<v Speaker 1>seventh cup contains the quarant's own angel hovered, but you

483
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>can see glow from this covered angel. Shimmering with divine

484
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<v Speaker 1>light is the way Eden Gray describes it in her book.

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<v Speaker 1>This key reminds us that while symbols are deeply universal,

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<v Speaker 1>they are also deeply personal. For example, as the reader,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what these seven symbols, and even the cups

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<v Speaker 1>themselves represent personally to this young quarant, I would ask her,

489
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<v Speaker 1>and her answer would inform my interpretation to the answer

490
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>to her question. It's really always okay to ask questions

491
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:43.240
<v Speaker 1>of the person you're reading for it's helpful to have

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00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:48.079
<v Speaker 1>that dialogue. So let's say that the queriant explains that

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<v Speaker 1>she desires financial success and popularity from her published works. Certainly,

494
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<v Speaker 1>the castle, jewels and wreath of victory indicate such success,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are also cautions to be explored. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>the fame she desires may come at a cost, of course,

497
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<v Speaker 1>as indicated by the skull and the dragon of jealousy.

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<v Speaker 1>The cup containing the angel is a reminder that she

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00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:16.079
<v Speaker 1>must not lose sight of the good her writing can

500
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.359
<v Speaker 1>be to the world, and that she does have aid

501
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.000
<v Speaker 1>always from the angelic realm. If she asks you got

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00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 1>some thoughts on this card, Samantha two, I know you do.

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<v Speaker 2>The seven of Pentacles has always confused me to be

504
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 2>honest with you, because you've got so many choices. It's

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00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>telling our queer end that she must face her inter

506
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>fears and make a choice based on facts, not what

507
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.799
<v Speaker 2>she wants the facts to be. There's a risk of

508
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>illusion here, of seeing what you want rather than what is.

509
00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>This card can indicate someone who tends to see either

510
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>the worst in a situation or the best rather than

511
00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the truth. The man is dressed in black, which symbol

512
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<v Speaker 2>as someone who tends to focus on negative thought patterns

513
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:06.759
<v Speaker 2>and blame projection, or someone who focuses too much on

514
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:10.200
<v Speaker 2>helping and fixing others. He's waiting for someone to tell

515
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.799
<v Speaker 2>him which cup to take. But the message of this

516
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>card is that you have to choose. You have to

517
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 2>create the outcome you desire with your own actions. See again,

518
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>deb we got to do the work that's right. Often

519
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 2>this card appears when you're looking for something or someone

520
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>so hard that you have a desire to make something

521
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>else fit and become what you're truly seeking. This card

522
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>can point to someone who's chasing something, a love, a job,

523
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>a goal so much that they're trying to make anything fit.

524
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>The Seven of Cups asks you to see the facts

525
00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 2>for what they really are, and to make the best

526
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>choice for you based on those facts. There is a

527
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>risk here of making the wrong choice based on what

528
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:55.640
<v Speaker 2>the heart wants rather than on what your soul is

529
00:33:55.680 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 2>guiding you towards, or on making the wrong choice based

530
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>on fear instead of following your true path. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a card of seeing what you want, of believing in

532
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.199
<v Speaker 2>an illusion yours or someone else's, rather than the reality.

533
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.360
<v Speaker 2>The Seven of Cups ask you to clear away these

534
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>illusions and trust yourself and allow your soul to lead

535
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 2>the way. Trust yourself, and the right choice will make

536
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 2>itself known. Sweep aside illusions, and face the truth of

537
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>your situation. This card illustrates the saying the truth will

538
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.280
<v Speaker 2>set you free. It asks you to see through the

539
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 2>facade of your own farantasies or the false promises someone

540
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>is presenting to you to see what is really true,

541
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>what is truly real. Once you do, you will see

542
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 2>that the authentic truth is so much more powerful than

543
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:44.239
<v Speaker 2>any fantasy. We can create.

544
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<v Speaker 1>This is so true, and I know that this is

545
00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>hard for people to hear because I often describe it

546
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>as the scene from The Wizard of Oz, where where

547
00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>doctory just wants an answer written in the sky? Right?

548
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 1>And what if she get two words? Surrender Dorothy? And

549
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>when we surrender to the idea that we have a

550
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>deeper connection to spirit, that the lessons that we're learning

551
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.039
<v Speaker 1>are meant for us to learn, then we can make

552
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>choices in perfect trust. We really can.

553
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:19.519
<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 1>The three keys that we've explored on this dark, snowy

555
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>night in Victorian England offer us a glimpse into how

556
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to row and other divination tools became so popular moving

557
00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>into the age of spiritualism. Over the years, we've seen

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00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a growth a deepening of the exploration of how these

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00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 1>tools and their messages can aid us every day. We

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<v Speaker 1>invite you to add the study and practice of to

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<v Speaker 1>Row reading into your intentions for the new year, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course I do believe you'd enjoy my course about this,

563
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.760
<v Speaker 1>which is coming on first part of the month January.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe to Roe's symbols speak to us all in

565
00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 1>universal ways and to each of us our own personal

566
00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 1>connection to them.

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00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>We need to take one last break. But I want

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00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 2>you to kind of put together those three cards in

569
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<v Speaker 2>a summaration for these ladies sitting by the fire, waiting

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00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>so hopefully for insights, and then I want us to

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00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:19.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of dive deeper into some recurring symbols that we

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00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 2>can notice and start to pay attention to in the turoad.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back, Okay, welcome back. So, dev if

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<v Speaker 2>these ladies are sitting around and they're hopefully asking you

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00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.599
<v Speaker 2>if they're going to find love, if they're going to

576
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.280
<v Speaker 2>be a writer and be able to follow their dreams

577
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>and make some money from it, what would you say?

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00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Those three cards are telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Them guess And I would not be that smart althay

580
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.039
<v Speaker 1>about it, But yes, you do have the option of

581
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 1>finding a deep and abiding love and being famous and

582
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.320
<v Speaker 1>having a great career as a writer and making money

583
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>on it. You do, when are you going to start?

584
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>What are you going to do? Make? Do one thing different,

585
00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 1>make a choice and follow it. And that's what to

586
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Row gives us often is the courage to do what

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00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 1>we need to do, the courage to take risk, to

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00:37:18.280 --> 00:37:22.679
<v Speaker 1>do what is our calling in life, and to know

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00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>that when we ask for guidance when we ask for assistance,

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00:37:26.519 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 1>as we've been talking about the angelic ground for example,

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00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:33.039
<v Speaker 1>that indeed there is help there, but we have to

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00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:35.360
<v Speaker 1>ask for it, and we have to live our lives

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00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 1>in such a way that there's a consciousness to our

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00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship to spirit, and every day it's not just something

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00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that we do sitting around a fire on a particular

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00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.559
<v Speaker 1>snowy evening. That connection to spirit is a part of

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00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>our world every day. I know our regular listeners, longtime

598
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 1>listeners are getting ready to roll their eyes because they

599
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>know where I'm going. Meditate. Meditate, meditate, find time to

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00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 1>sit and be in silence a minute, or walk in

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00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:11.320
<v Speaker 1>silence or whatever, so that you have a stillness of

602
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>the mind that allows you to hear knowledge and information

603
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 1>from yourself and from your guides and your helpers. And

604
00:38:20.079 --> 00:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>when and when you begin to create a practice in

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00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:28.400
<v Speaker 1>your life where there is that connection every day, things shift.

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<v Speaker 1>There really is a difference. And Toroku help be a

607
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 1>wonderful guide.

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<v Speaker 2>For that, oh for sure. And I think that understanding

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00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.800
<v Speaker 2>the symbols of Tourou is really important because it helps

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<v Speaker 2>us find a deeper meaning and a divinatory significance that

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<v Speaker 2>we can add to the reading. And what's interesting to

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00:38:48.320 --> 00:38:52.519
<v Speaker 2>contemplate is that symbols existed before language, so they've been

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00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 2>around for so long, and they are able to convey

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00:38:56.920 --> 00:39:01.559
<v Speaker 2>something much greater in meeting with just one image. Carl

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00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Jung said, symbols act upon our subconscious and are collective

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00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 2>conscious in ways that unlock powerful energies and creativity. He

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00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 2>saw them as messengers to the psyche that connect us

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<v Speaker 2>to the archetypes of the collective unconscious. And William Butler,

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<v Speaker 2>Yet's the great poet and also a member of the

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00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Order of the Golden Dawn, called symbols the greatest of

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00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 2>all powers. Wait himself said the symbols in the Toureau

622
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Deck were gates which opened realms of vision beyond occult dreams.

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<v Speaker 2>In his book The Pictorial Key, he writes, the true

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<v Speaker 2>tourou is symbolism on the highest plane. It offers a

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00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:45.039
<v Speaker 2>key to the mysteries. But the wrong symbolic stories have

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00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 2>been told concerning it, and the wrong history has been

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00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 2>given in every published work which so far has dealt

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00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.519
<v Speaker 2>with the subject. Well, that sounds a little ecocentric to

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<v Speaker 2>me now that I'm reading that. Well, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>Wait Okay, right, I'm not just pulling that out, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>because that does sound like I'm the only one who

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<v Speaker 2>has the right symbolic answers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right. That's why do you believe?

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<v Speaker 2>He says. The touro is not a derivative of any

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<v Speaker 2>one school of literature or occultism. It is not of

636
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<v Speaker 2>alchemy or Kabbalism, or astrology or ceremonial magic. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a presentation of universal ideas by means of universal types.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is the combination of these universal types that

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<v Speaker 2>it presents the secret doctrine.

640
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<v Speaker 1>And it's not so secret, not anymore. No, it's not.

641
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<v Speaker 1>We all have access to it.

642
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<v Speaker 2>We did it, yeah, which I love too. So I

643
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<v Speaker 2>thought we could talk about some of the common symbols

644
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<v Speaker 2>that occur. And these aren't obviously all of them, because

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<v Speaker 2>that would be in an entire Touro course like the

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<v Speaker 2>one you're teaching, but I thought we could at least

647
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<v Speaker 2>touch on some of them. The rose appears on many cards,

648
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<v Speaker 2>such as The Magician, the Fool, the Ninoswords, the Queen

649
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.800
<v Speaker 2>of Pentacles, the Strength, just to name a few. Roses

650
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<v Speaker 2>symbolize love, resurrection, rebirth, and romance. Red roses. Typically the

651
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<v Speaker 2>white rose, which we see on some cards represents innocence,

652
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<v Speaker 2>a news start, and purity.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely true. And one thing I would just add to that,

654
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<v Speaker 1>Samantha is roses are not the only flowers that appear.

655
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<v Speaker 1>Lilies appear, and my mind's gonna blit. Trees, various trees,

656
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<v Speaker 1>or there are lots of plants. And the plant symbols

657
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<v Speaker 1>in to row are very clear and very specific and

658
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<v Speaker 1>serve a very purpose for appearing on the particular cards

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<v Speaker 1>that they appear. For example, you see the cypress tree

660
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<v Speaker 1>on the Empress key, and the cypress tree is sacred

661
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<v Speaker 1>to the goddess Venus, which shield is on the ground

662
00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.639
<v Speaker 1>next to the throne that the Empress is sitting on.

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<v Speaker 1>So it goes on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 2>So lots of plants, lots of plants. The horse. We

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<v Speaker 2>see the horse on a lot of cards. It's on

666
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<v Speaker 2>all the night car cards, It's on the death card,

667
00:42:01.400 --> 00:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the Sun card, six of Wands, for example. The horses

668
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<v Speaker 2>represent freedom, confidence messages, coming, competition, and endurance. Horses in

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<v Speaker 2>ter ro symbolize being on a journey.

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<v Speaker 1>And in addition to that, some years ago I had

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful student who was an equestrian teacher person, and

672
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<v Speaker 1>she had done all sorts of research on the various

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<v Speaker 1>stances that the horses have in the as pictured in

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<v Speaker 1>the keys, and they're all different, just like you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are with a pall up in the air, some

676
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<v Speaker 1>are for I means, and I have that document. She's

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<v Speaker 1>all gave me the permission to share it with my

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<v Speaker 1>students so that there's a way to dive really deeply

679
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<v Speaker 1>into the way the horses are standing in to row.

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<v Speaker 1>Each of those is different and has a meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's important too, yes, so many layers right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we have the pomegranate, which you can see on

683
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<v Speaker 2>cards like the Empress and the High Priestess, and these

684
00:43:02.559 --> 00:43:09.599
<v Speaker 2>symbolize fertility, creativity, birth, rebirth, and enjoying life's sensual pleasures.

685
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<v Speaker 1>So if you want to really dive deeply into the pomegranate,

686
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<v Speaker 1>you need to read the Greek story of the goddess Demeter,

687
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<v Speaker 1>who is the goddess of grain and fertility, and her

688
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 1>daughter Persephone, and the story of persephones abduction into hell

689
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<v Speaker 1>by the God's haighties and so forth. Pomegrants have a

690
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<v Speaker 1>ton of symbology in mythology and of course, then interrupt.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, isn't it true that the pomegranate was the apple?

692
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<v Speaker 2>That there weren't apples in that area of the world,

693
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<v Speaker 2>so it must have been a pomegranate that eve eight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one theory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought so, right, Okay. The lion is another

696
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<v Speaker 2>recurring symbol. You can find him on cards like the

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<v Speaker 2>Strength card, the Wheel of Fortune, the Queen of Wands,

698
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<v Speaker 2>the Two of Cops, the King of Wand's Lions symbol life, strength, power,

699
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<v Speaker 2>leadership and the ability to take charge. And the lion

700
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<v Speaker 2>can also symbolize the zodiac Leo sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and he also represents he The lines often depicted

702
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<v Speaker 1>as mail represents the lion of Judah, so it goes

703
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<v Speaker 1>into Hebraic symbolism there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice, okay. Angels appear on lots of cards, like

705
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<v Speaker 2>the Lovers, the Wheel of Fortune, the Temperance, the Queen

706
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:31.119
<v Speaker 2>of Swords which is on the chair, and the King

707
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 2>of Swords, which is on the crown. Angels symbolize help

708
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>from above, receiving messages from the other side, and can

709
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<v Speaker 2>represent protection, being guided and receiving a message.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and each of those angels throughout the deck have

711
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<v Speaker 1>a different meaning. Depending on their jobs. As we just

712
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<v Speaker 1>talked about Ariel Raphael. For example, it's the angel of healing,

713
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:58.679
<v Speaker 1>the archangel Michael on the temperance key. Some people think

714
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<v Speaker 1>that's what's depicted. There is the Archangel of protection. It's fascinating,

715
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<v Speaker 1>it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Sphinx, which we see on the chariot

717
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<v Speaker 2>and the wheel of Fortune, symbolizes protection, guardianship, and transformation,

718
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<v Speaker 2>as the sphinx shows the transformation of the lion and

719
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<v Speaker 2>the human.

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<v Speaker 1>And we will never know the true answer to the

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<v Speaker 1>sphinx question. No.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, we have the scepter, who appears on cards

723
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<v Speaker 2>like the Magician, Empress, Emperor, Hire, Chariot, Hermit World, Queen

724
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:37.800
<v Speaker 2>of Pentacles, and on and on. Scepters in terro represent authority, leadership,

725
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 2>and laws. It's important to look at who's holding the

726
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.360
<v Speaker 2>scepter on the card. For example, the scepter on the

727
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Empress card reminds us that ultimately Mother Nature is in

728
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<v Speaker 2>charge and we must respect the cycles and rhythm of

729
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>the world we live in. But you know, div when

730
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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to dive into this, I feel like

731
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<v Speaker 2>we could do a whole show just on the scepter.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it depends. Like when the hermit holds the sceptor,

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<v Speaker 2>it represents, you know, being in charge of your own

734
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<v Speaker 2>self and going within and relying on yourself. When the

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<v Speaker 2>magician holds the sceptor, it represents incorporating all the tools

736
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<v Speaker 2>of the tureau into your magic bag of manifesting and

737
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<v Speaker 2>able to really create your will into the world. So

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<v Speaker 2>the sceptor is on a lot of cards, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>meaning changes in terms of who's holding it and where

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<v Speaker 2>it's pointing, and all sorts of things.

741
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and for example, in swords, it depends on whether

742
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the sword is pointing right side, pointing upward or downward.

743
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<v Speaker 1>That makes a big difference in the interpretation of the keys.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I hope that folks are

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<v Speaker 1>getting from this very brief survey of various symbols is

746
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<v Speaker 1>that this is a wonderful tool. When you start grouping

747
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>things like this together, like finding all the roses or

748
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:56.800
<v Speaker 1>finding the sphinx, or this, that and the other, you

749
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<v Speaker 1>begin to see layers of the cards their connection. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the ways that helps you to learn

751
00:47:03.639 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>those symbols. Because it sounds daunting, I mean, I can

752
00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:10.320
<v Speaker 1>imagine that some folks listening to this are thinking, good, golly,

753
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I would never learn all of those. Well, the answer

754
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 1>is that you know you wouldn't. I've been at this

755
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.039
<v Speaker 1>for nearly fifty years, and I learned something new all

756
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<v Speaker 1>the time. That is the one promise that I make

757
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 1>students in a class with me is that before the

758
00:47:24.679 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 1>class is over, I too will have learned something new.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always do. And I love that it's a

760
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 1>lifelong journey, and I love that it's fun and interesting

761
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and rabbit holes. You want to go down some rabbit holes,

762
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 1>enjoy to Row, and enjoy it. That's the important thing here,

763
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:46.960
<v Speaker 1>is because when you approach learning and connecting with to

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<v Speaker 1>Row and the meaning of the cards in the perspective

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00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:56.239
<v Speaker 1>of having fun and interest and just diving into the

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00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:00.199
<v Speaker 1>concept of connection, it becomes this whole, wonderful world world

767
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of study. And I clearly I love it deeply and

768
00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 1>would invite anybody to really take a deep dive into

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<v Speaker 1>to Row and not just stop at the surface meaning

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<v Speaker 1>of the keys. Thank you.

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00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 2>A question for you. You know you were talking about

772
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:19.119
<v Speaker 2>really looking at all the symbols and all the different cards.

773
00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 2>What if you know how we get so many questions

774
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<v Speaker 2>from listeners saying, I keep seeing the numbers one, seven, six,

775
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 2>or every time I look at the clock it says

776
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:31.679
<v Speaker 2>two twenty two. Could you pull out the toro cards

777
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.800
<v Speaker 2>that have those numbers and see if there's a message

778
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:36.760
<v Speaker 2>for you in there. Do you think that would work?

779
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:39.679
<v Speaker 1>Well? It could. Although in to row, because of the

780
00:48:39.679 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 1>way to row is structured, everything really can relate, can

781
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:49.920
<v Speaker 1>reduce to a single digit rather than looking at one one, one, one,

782
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 1>for example, because we get one eleven all the time

783
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.639
<v Speaker 1>or eleven eleven all the time. Well that's four. So

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<v Speaker 1>look at all the four cards and all the four

785
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>yards in the major arcana and in the minor arconnoissants

786
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:09.239
<v Speaker 1>have to do with stability and groundedness the four corners,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, of the throne of the Emperor, his number

788
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 1>is four. So yes, you can do a lot of numerology,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, weit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm now I feel like I know the tua

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<v Speaker 2>pretty well and I'm feeling a little overwhelmed. So tell

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00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:24.039
<v Speaker 2>people who are thinking about taking your class and they're

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00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.320
<v Speaker 2>feeling overwhelmed what they can expect and how they won't

794
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:28.039
<v Speaker 2>be overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I won't promise you we won't be overwhelmed, But

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<v Speaker 1>at least we won't start there because here's how it

797
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Here's how it works. In my introcourse called Unlocking the

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00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Mysteries of Turou, we really do begin with looking at

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00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the structure of Teu. Well, for one thing, we look

800
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<v Speaker 1>at the history, which is changing. Interestingly, there's some historical

801
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.559
<v Speaker 1>research that's being done right now. It's changing some of

802
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:57.280
<v Speaker 1>what we thought we knew about Turop. But in any case,

803
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:59.519
<v Speaker 1>we'll look at some history. How did Teu get to

804
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:05.760
<v Speaker 1>be where it is today? How did this quintessential gold

805
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>standard weight wrider smith deck come into being? Who are

806
00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:13.519
<v Speaker 1>these people and what are they trying to do? So

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00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 1>we will lay out the cards in order. We'll start

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<v Speaker 1>with the major arcana and we'll do exactly what you

809
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 1>suggested earlier on in this episode. We will make our

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00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:29.400
<v Speaker 1>way through the symbols and the touro's journey through the

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<v Speaker 1>major arcana, and then we'll look at the symbology of

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00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 1>each of the minor arkana suits and then we after

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<v Speaker 1>we've spent some time really diving deeply into those and

814
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<v Speaker 1>for fun, it's a first layer of deeply I really

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<v Speaker 1>often say to folks that I really should change the

816
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<v Speaker 1>name of this course to Onion Peeling one oh one,

817
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<v Speaker 1>because that's what we do. We're just peeling away layers

818
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>of an onion. Well, before it's all over, you will

819
00:50:57.519 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>have the tools you need to do a three card

820
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>it's spread reading, and to do a tin card or

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<v Speaker 1>Celtic cross spread reading. And that really does give you

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation of beginning to understand how the cards work

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<v Speaker 1>together in a layout and what you might need to

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<v Speaker 1>be aware of and look for as you're doing readings,

825
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.639
<v Speaker 1>particularly for yourself for a long while. I recommend that

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<v Speaker 1>first perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we hope you guys have enjoyed this episode and

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<v Speaker 2>we hope it's inspired you all to pull out your

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<v Speaker 2>own deck of tourou or maybe even buy your own,

830
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:37.519
<v Speaker 2>because now we know that old myth of we can't

831
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 2>buy your own deck is a myth, and you can

832
00:51:41.039 --> 00:51:43.920
<v Speaker 2>buy your own deck and start exploring the cards and

833
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 2>your own symbolism.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely you can, and I would really recommend that if

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to learn true real tourow, go to

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<v Speaker 1>my website and take a look at the picture of

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<v Speaker 1>the box of the deck that I recommend, and it

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be that original deck, that real weight rider deck.

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<v Speaker 1>There are others that call themselves that, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I really recommend that that deck and the book that

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<v Speaker 1>I used to teach from is Eden Gray's book on

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<v Speaker 1>Touro and the Complete Guide to the Torou is the

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<v Speaker 1>name of it. It's old and tried and true. Eden

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<v Speaker 1>Gray was considered one of the founders and hallmarks of

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<v Speaker 1>tourou education for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful. We'll put that in the show notes as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys so much for listening. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 2>with you next week with our annual Holiday story show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you have a great week. Remember, as always, to

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<v Speaker 2>be the light for yourself and others.

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<v Speaker 1>Take care everyone.

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