1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: The Florida Football Insiders podcast is brought to you by 2 00:00:02,839 --> 00:00:08,560 Titan Home Lending Tickets, Smarter Ghost Sleeves and Drew Fellios 3 00:00:08,599 --> 00:00:11,439 are Florida realtor. Enjoy the podcast. 4 00:00:15,439 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: A look at college football news, analysis and insight from 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,399 around the Sunshine Stage. This is Florida Football Insiders, a 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,480 part of the College Gridiron Coast. 7 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:27,239 Speaker 1: To Coast podcast. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,559 Speaker 2: Nowwork and here's your host, Jason Cowers. 9 00:00:35,079 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: All Right, Welcome in Florida Football Insider's podcast. 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: Thanksgiving lead ndition for good Buddy's having a great holiday weekend. 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,039 Speaker 3: We'll we got to get to spend some time with 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,359 family and friends, have a little meal and all the rest. 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,520 We are in week fourteen of the college football season. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,960 Hard to believe we are at the end of the 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:01,320 regular season. Week fourteen is upon US College Football Championship 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,719 games will be next week. We'll have the final college 17 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:07,640 football rankings next week, which will lead into the playoff matchups. 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,079 Some interesting notes for the Florida teams. Miami rated number 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,159 three in this week's this week's ranking. Obviously they are 20 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:20,319 the only team in contention in the state of Florida, 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,799 but USF got Bowl eligible. 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: The Gators got Bowl eligible this last. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: Week with a nice doing the Gators obviously beating Ole 24 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:33,719 miss in USF beating beating Tulsa. So congrats to those 25 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:37,920 two programs for getting bowl eligible. And remember we are 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:43,159 part of the College Football Coast to Coach College grid 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,400 auron Coast to Coach podcast network, and we are going 28 00:01:46,439 --> 00:01:48,159 to give you a little recap of the teams. We've 29 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:49,560 got a good guest for you this week as we 30 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:52,920 head into the Thanksgiving rivalry between the Gators and the Seminoles. 31 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:57,200 Got a tricky game from Miami up at Syracuse. Got 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,680 USF hosting I mean USF is gonna be on the 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,439 road at Rice, UCF hosting Utah, FIU hosting Middle Tennessee, 34 00:02:05,719 --> 00:02:08,319 FAU on the road at Tulsa. 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: So uh, a full. 36 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:12,159 Speaker 3: Slate of games for all the teams in the state. 37 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,280 Give you a little recap of last week, and again, 38 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,639 Joey Johnson's gonna join us talk a little college football 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,800 playoff rankings. What he sees there's some opportunity for the 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:25,039 ACC potentially well as the SEC cannibalized themselves. We're gonna 41 00:02:25,039 --> 00:02:28,439 talk about the USF getting eligible for a second straight year, 42 00:02:28,879 --> 00:02:33,879 the impact of Amir Amir Abduah Raheem, the basketball coach 43 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:37,719 at USF who tragically passed away last month. UH, and 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,000 a lot more in about the rivalry of Florida and 45 00:02:40,039 --> 00:02:43,879 Florida State. Joey's covered the UH state of Florida for decades, 46 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,039 been as an award winning writer with the Tampa Tribune, 47 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,560 and he's part of the USF Bowls radio broadcast. 48 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: So you will enjoy that. You'll get a little. 49 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:57,159 Speaker 3: History lesson as well for some first of Florida Florida 50 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:01,319 state history and UH and sense of what the Gators 51 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:04,719 are thinking up in Gainesville concerning Billy Napier and even 52 00:03:04,719 --> 00:03:07,159 a little Todd Golden talk as well. So all right, 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,439 let's get to the recap from last week. Let's start 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,919 up in Tallahassee. The Knoles beat Charleston Southern in a 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,759 meaningless game. They go to two and nine win forty 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,319 one to seven over Charleston Southern. Give a shout out 57 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,159 to my former teammate Dennis Decker, who played at Charleston 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,919 Southern as a kicker back in the day. Luke Crowmanhoak 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,800 threw for two nine and three touchdowns. Again, I'm not 60 00:03:30,039 --> 00:03:33,159 gonna waste much time talking about this game. Again, FBS 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,840 opponent shouldn't be playing them. 62 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: It's a joke. 63 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,759 Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of playing these FBS opponents at all. 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,479 Speaker 4: I don't care what part of the season it is. 65 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,719 Shouldn't be doing it. 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,919 Speaker 3: And again the Florida State, the Gators come to town 67 00:03:46,199 --> 00:03:47,800 next Saturday. 68 00:03:49,039 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: This Saturday. Excuse me, not next Saturday, This. 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:56,599 Speaker 3: Saturday for the for the for the finale. Interesting game 70 00:03:56,639 --> 00:03:59,400 here with Florida. Again, Florida's about a fifteen point favorite, 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,719 which I think that's too many. But Joe Johnson and 72 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,919 I will discuss this game in depth a little bit 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:05,680 here in. 74 00:04:05,719 --> 00:04:06,759 Speaker 4: Just a few minutes. 75 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: All right, Miami, they win, they keep, they hold, serve. 76 00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:12,840 They win forty two to fourteen at home against wake Forest, 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,519 setting up their Week twelve or Week fourteen twelfth game, 78 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,639 must win game at SYRAC used to make the ACC 79 00:04:20,759 --> 00:04:23,800 title game. SMU is already in the game. If Miami wins, 80 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,560 there in the game. If Miami loses, clemsons in the game. 81 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,120 As far as to play SMU, this is probably Miami's. 82 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: This is a playoff game for Miami. They gotta win 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,160 this game. 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 3: I don't think Miami's gonna make it if they don't 85 00:04:34,319 --> 00:04:37,079 win this game in the college football playoffs. 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,079 Speaker 4: To me, this is a must win game. Again. 87 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,879 Speaker 3: Miami came out number three in the college football rankings, 88 00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:44,639 which is a good thing for them, but again this 89 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,560 is a must win game. Cam Ward through for two 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,000 to eighty and two touchdowns. The running back Loo ran 91 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:52,399 seven carries for one to fifteen in a touchdown, and 92 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,240 George the receiver seven catches ninety one yards two touchdowns. Again, 93 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:59,959 good job taking care of business, not messing around with Wake. 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,160 But again, you're gonna have a tough game at Miami. 95 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:02,879 Speaker 1: UH. 96 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: Kyle mccorden company up in the in the Dome up 97 00:05:06,759 --> 00:05:09,920 in Syracuse will be a formidable test against that vulnerable 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,639 Miami defense. Again, if you're Camore, you gotta figure out 99 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:14,720 a way to get get Miami to the finish line here. 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,680 So big game for Miami at Syracuse this week, must 101 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,040 win game for the for the for the Canes f 102 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:25,279 IU they lose twenty seven to twenty six to Kennesaw 103 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:28,839 UH they moved to three and eight. Keon Jenkins through 104 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,079 for two h four and three touchdowns. Devonte Lyons sixteen 105 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,399 carries ninety nine yards, Eric Rivers seven carry seven catches 106 00:05:35,439 --> 00:05:38,920 one to twenty five and two touchdowns. Again, Mike McIntyre 107 00:05:38,959 --> 00:05:41,040 and the Panthers fall to three and eight. They're gonna 108 00:05:41,079 --> 00:05:44,399 finish out their regular season home Saturday at Middle Tennessee State. 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,519 Speaker 4: FAU falls to two to nine. 110 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: They lose to Charlotte at home thirty nine to twenty 111 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:50,759 seven under the interim coach. 112 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:51,399 Speaker 5: CJ. 113 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,399 Speaker 3: Campbell Junior twenty one carries one to fifteen a touchdown 114 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,120 at Tulsa. To wrap up their regular season, fau's got 115 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,560 to find a quarterback of this offseason in the portal 116 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:04,160 somewhere or recruiting. They are lacking at the quarterback position. 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,079 But the Owls fall to two to nine. On the 118 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,600 regular season, UCF falls to four and seven. They lose 119 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:13,959 up in Morgantown thirty one twenty one to West Virginia UH. 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,399 They are home to Utah on Friday Night in the 121 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:18,360 Bounce House their regular season finale. 122 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: Again. 123 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: Disappointing year for the Knights, will not make a Bowl. 124 00:06:22,399 --> 00:06:26,639 A lot of expectations this year. The quarterback situation was 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,560 not great. We will see if they found a. 126 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: Quarterback in this new kid they've rigged. But R J. 127 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: Harvey going to wrap up a great career at UCF. 128 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,639 Sixteen carries one thirty and two touchdowns. He'll be an 129 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,639 NFL player for sure. But again disappointing year for the 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,240 Knights in Orlando and Gus Malzam and last the USF Bulls. 131 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,560 They get Bowl eligible, get to six and five. They 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,920 beat Tulsa sixty three to thirty. Bryce Archie throws for 133 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:57,240 three zero five and two touchdowns. Kelly Joyner runs ten 134 00:06:57,319 --> 00:06:59,959 for one thirty one and two touchdowns. So nice job 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,879 by USF and Bryce Archie to get back to Bowl 136 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,160 eligibility two years in a row under Alex Golish. 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,519 Speaker 4: Again, remember Byron Brown. 138 00:07:07,319 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: Has not played and it's probably been seven seven weeks now, 139 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:15,360 so nice job by Bryce Archie coming in and stabilizing 140 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:17,839 and going the Remember USF was two and four at 141 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:21,079 one time, so nice job getting to Bowl eligibility. They 142 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,120 finish up at Rice six and five, a winnable game 143 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,319 as well, so again you'll hear Joey talk about USF 144 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,199 the building of the program by Goalish in company. But 145 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,319 USF moves to six and five and they will be 146 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,720 in a Bowl game this year, so good good for them. 147 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,040 And then obviously the Gators. They beat ole Miss to 148 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:44,079 get to six and five as well. Great job by 149 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,920 Billy Napier to beat ole Miss and LSU back to 150 00:07:47,959 --> 00:07:51,879 back weeks. Again, this was as much about ole Miss 151 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:54,720 losing the game and the the the blunders of ole 152 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,639 Miss and Lane Kiffin and Jackson Dart then Florida. 153 00:07:57,639 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: But give Florida credit. 154 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: They played well defensively, DJ Lagway played pretty well in 155 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:03,480 the game, and they did what they had to do 156 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,959 to figure out a way to win the game. So 157 00:08:06,279 --> 00:08:08,439 the kudos to Billy Napier, and again we'll get into 158 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:11,279 Billy's future and what made came to the decision to 159 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,120 keep Billy and what the expectations will be for Billy 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,120 moving forward here In just a couple of minutes with Joey, 161 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,000 so Gators moved to six and five as well, So 162 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:22,759 good job the Gator Nation. They headed up to Tallahassee 163 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:29,360 to see the Seminoles on Saturday again rivalry game. It's 164 00:08:29,399 --> 00:08:32,320 not as straightforward as you would think. Everybody thinks Florida 165 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,519 will go up there and destroy them. I don't think 166 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,600 that's gonna be the case case. I think you're gonna 167 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,519 get a goo effort out of Florida State at home. 168 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,240 Fifteen points if you're if you're if you're a gambler 169 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,799 out there betting fifteen points to me is just too 170 00:08:44,799 --> 00:08:48,559 many points in this game. I can see Florida winning, 171 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,440 but I don't think they're gonna cover fifteen. So there 172 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,639 you have it again, Florida Football Insiders Podcast. Appreciate you 173 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,519 finding us. You can find me on x and on 174 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,279 Twitter at JPO Sports. Reach out to me. Love to 175 00:09:00,279 --> 00:09:04,360 hear your comments for it is to your football buddies. 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,360 You can retweet it again. The video will be on 177 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:10,799 my YouTube channel. Joey's interview with me will be on 178 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,799 the YouTube channel the Jason Power Sports channel as well. 179 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,759 To check that out and have a great Thanksgiving. Again, 180 00:09:17,919 --> 00:09:21,360 be nice to your family and friends if you're dining 181 00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:24,000 with them or celebrating with them. If you're out and about, 182 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:25,919 be thankful for the people that are out working because 183 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:27,720 a lot of people have to work on Thanksgiving. So 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,039 if you're out somewhere, be a generous tipper if you 185 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,240 can thank them for working. Again, lots of people are 186 00:09:34,279 --> 00:09:36,120 having to work on the holidays, lots of people are 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,799 missing family, lots of people don't have family, So again, 188 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:42,480 be just be thoughtful of other people here on this 189 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:48,919 holiday as well. So enjoy the weekend of games. You're 190 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:51,960 gonna have games all throughout the weekend Thursday, Friday, Saturday 191 00:09:52,039 --> 00:09:54,480 and Sunday obvious, and then you'll have the NFL. Speaking 192 00:09:54,519 --> 00:09:57,600 of the NFL, the Buccaneers with an emphatic win thirty 193 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,440 to seven up in New York against the Giants, who 194 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,440 are a dumpster fire. Mayfield had a really good game, 195 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,879 Bucky Irving had a good game. Mike Evans return for 196 00:10:06,919 --> 00:10:10,000 the Bucks. This game was never in doubt. You saw 197 00:10:10,039 --> 00:10:14,279 the Baker Mayfield mocking of Tommy Cutlet's and Tommy DeVito. 198 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:16,759 So good for the Bucks on their win. The Dolphins 199 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,519 thump the New England Patriots. Very impressive. I told you 200 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,440 a couple of weeks ago watch out for the Dolphins 201 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,159 three game winning streak. Now there is an opportunity there 202 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:29,840 playing Thanksgiving night in Green Bay up in Lambo, so 203 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:32,840 we will know where the Dolphins stand after Thursday night. 204 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,000 Huge game opportunity for the Dolphins up in the cold, 205 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,080 up up in Lambeau. My guys got a couple buddies 206 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,200 of mine that will be up in the in the 207 00:10:40,519 --> 00:10:44,320 building in Lambeau, watching their their their their their packers, 208 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,480 their packer fans, my guy, Damon and Brian. 209 00:10:47,039 --> 00:10:49,519 Speaker 4: They'll be up in Lambeau, so check that out. 210 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: That's gonna be I believe the NBC game, the night game, 211 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:56,559 but again, huge opportunity for the Dolphins they win this game, 212 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,879 look out that. I think the Dolphins have a great 213 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,000 chance to make the playoffs. They can win this game. 214 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,360 As the seventh seed in the AFC two was playing 215 00:11:03,399 --> 00:11:06,600 really well, John new Smith's playing well. Eight Chan had 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,919 a great game on Sunday against the Patriots, and that 217 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,960 defense is starting to play pretty good down in Miami 218 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:12,279 as well. 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 4: So look out for the Dolphins. 220 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:18,399 Speaker 3: A huge game in Lambeau Thursday night, Thanksgiving Night in 221 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Green Bay. 222 00:11:19,399 --> 00:11:21,879 Speaker 4: Jacksonville was off this week. They'll be back this week. 223 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: They're back playing on Sunday. And by the way, the 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,799 Bucks go to Carolina again. A sneaky, sneaky, tricky game 225 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,600 for the Bucks. Carolina has been playing much much better lately. 226 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Dave Canalis for Buccaneer Offhens coordinated last year. Obviously the 227 00:11:35,879 --> 00:11:38,879 familiar with each other. Bowls and Canalis will be very 228 00:11:38,879 --> 00:11:43,240 familiar with each other. Jacksonville is hosting the Houston Texans, 229 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,799 who came off of a brutal loss last week. We'll 230 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,120 see if Doug Peterson can get some effort out of 231 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:50,799 his guys coming out of the bye week. And like 232 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,279 I said, the Dolphins play in Lambeau on Thursday night 233 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:57,000 NBC collins Worth and Tarrico. 234 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 4: So there's your NFL slate for the week as well. 235 00:12:02,039 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: Again, keep be careful Tampa as you go to Carolina. 236 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,039 They took they took the Chiefs to the limit last week. 237 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,600 You're better than that. You're better than the Panthers. But 238 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,120 take care of business, don't don't take this team lightly. 239 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:15,799 They know each other pretty well with the coaching situation 240 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:19,399 and all that. So all right, enjoy the Thanksgiving weekend. 241 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,039 Speaker 4: You're gonna enjoy. 242 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,759 Speaker 3: Joey Johnson here in just a minute, Joey Johnson, part 243 00:12:22,759 --> 00:12:26,399 of the USF Bulls radio broadcast team and again a 244 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,679 longtime writer in the state of Florida here in the 245 00:12:28,759 --> 00:12:30,879 Tampa Bay area, and we're gonna talk a little Florida, 246 00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:34,519 Florida State, little Miami, and a little coaching news as 247 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,480 well up in Gainesville. So appreciate you fys. Have a 248 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:39,679 great Thanksgiving. 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I'll have to be working on Thanksgiving 312 00:16:23,159 --> 00:16:25,919 and Friday. And be nice if you're out shopping this weekend. 313 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Don't be a jerk in the stores and all the rest. 314 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:31,320 So a guy who's never a jerk, one of the 315 00:16:31,399 --> 00:16:36,120 nicest guys I know. Joey Johnston radio voice play by 316 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:41,200 play analyst with the USF Bulls football program, basketball entity 317 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,440 as well. Joey's a longtime media member in the state 318 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,639 of Florida here in the Tampa area and just then 319 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,080 all around savant when it comes to college football in 320 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,919 the state of Florida. 321 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,519 Speaker 5: So welcome back, Joey, thank you, Jason. Great to be here. 322 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,759 Anytime I'm described as a savant, I feel like I've 323 00:16:57,799 --> 00:16:59,679 got a lot to live up to, so I hope 324 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,919 I don't disappoint all right. 325 00:17:01,799 --> 00:17:04,519 Speaker 1: So the college foot we're recording this on Tuesday. Now, 326 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,319 the college football rankings just came out. You got Boise 327 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:14,119 at four, Indiana at eleven, SMU at ten, Miami at three, 328 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,480 Clempson the first team out at thirteen. Any surprises to. 329 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: You, It's interesting to me, how you know. I guess 330 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,319 if the things break right, the ACC could get two 331 00:17:26,519 --> 00:17:31,559 or maybe three teams in the SEC is certainly a 332 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:33,960 strong conference. I mean, there's all kinds of craziness going 333 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,119 on there with all the upsets last week, so I'm 334 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,400 sure they'll get good representation. But it's just hard to 335 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,079 say what's going on in the Big twelve. Just who knows, 336 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,839 who knows who's getting. 337 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: In for the that's gonna be a one bidder. 338 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,839 Speaker 5: It's a fantastic race, but there's just no way to 339 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:53,200 predict what's going on. I mean, Notre Dame after that 340 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,559 horrible loss early in the season, they've hung in there. 341 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:59,480 They're up in the fifth spot. So you know, it's 342 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,440 too more weeks of drama where things could could shake out. 343 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,440 But I you know, it's it's just gonna be cool 344 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,559 to see these on campus games in the first round. 345 00:18:09,599 --> 00:18:11,559 I'm literally looking forward to that and some of them 346 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:17,039 as they're lining up, you know, northern cities snow weather. Yeah, 347 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:20,880 so that could be just a crazy, crazy thing. I mean, 348 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,240 I know football fans might have watched the NFL game 349 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:28,000 in Cleveland last week. That's being like a snow game 350 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:30,279 on television. It's just really cool. So if we get 351 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:33,519 one of those in the college football Playoff, it could 352 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:35,920 be an instant classic, no doubt. 353 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. Give me a thought or two 354 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,599 about Miami. You saw Miami in person against USF early 355 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,440 in the year. Obviously, we know cam Ward is electric, 356 00:18:43,519 --> 00:18:46,359 probably one or two in the Heisman Trophy. The defense 357 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,880 is a little suspect and average at best. Tricky game 358 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:53,519 at Syracuse. They got to win this game playing against 359 00:18:53,519 --> 00:18:56,839 the prolific offense Kyle mccorr, the former Ohio State quarterback 360 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,000 now at Syracuse. Always been a tricky place for Miami. Indoors, 361 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,799 it'll be cold, even though it's a dome. Those kids 362 00:19:03,839 --> 00:19:05,279 will be in the cold weather for a little bit. 363 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,680 Give me a thought or two about Miami going to Syracuse. 364 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,599 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, first of all, Miami on its face at 365 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:15,279 at We saw them in Tampa probably at their best, 366 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,599 and they were clicking with cam Ward and scored a 367 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,480 lot of points and looked like certainly a national championship contender. 368 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,200 I mean, the big thing with Miami is the consistency. 369 00:19:24,279 --> 00:19:26,799 We saw what happened against Virginia Tech where they nearly 370 00:19:26,839 --> 00:19:29,440 blew the game. We saw the game at Cal where 371 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,599 they probably should have gotten beaten, and they miraculously rallied 372 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:35,920 losing at Georgia Tech. So you're not quite sure what 373 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,960 you're gonna get with Miami. But if they put everything together, 374 00:19:39,079 --> 00:19:43,319 they could not only get into the playoff, but go deep. Hey, 375 00:19:43,319 --> 00:19:45,519 I'm really curious to see how the Syracuse game looks 376 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:49,400 because it is a much improved Syracuse team and that 377 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,559 Carrier Dome or whatever they're calling it now has been 378 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,839 difficult for Miami over the years, and when Syracuse isn't 379 00:19:57,839 --> 00:20:00,599 doing well, that place can be quiet. But I believe 380 00:20:00,599 --> 00:20:02,559 it's going to be rocking this week and it's going 381 00:20:02,599 --> 00:20:04,640 to be an up and then for the Hurricane, so 382 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,039 it won't be an easy one for them to get through. 383 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,079 If they get past it, maybe that's a chance to 384 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:12,720 get a reprieve. And I think if Miami gets into 385 00:20:12,759 --> 00:20:17,440 the playoffs with cam Ward getting hot, they can beat anybody. 386 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,759 Speaker 1: And they'll have a bye week if they if they 387 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:21,039 win the ACC, they'll have most likely they will have 388 00:20:21,079 --> 00:20:23,200 a bye week. They're not going to be left out 389 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,640 of the by. So you get two weeks to get 390 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,839 ready a little healthier. You're gonna get a home game 391 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,039 in the set, not a no the second round neutral site. 392 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:33,680 I think they play neutral site in correct, in the quarterfinals. 393 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 5: So we'lleah the home game right the first the first 394 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:43,160 four games, the five twelve, those are on campus and 395 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,119 then they go to the bull sites. So the five 396 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,559 through the twelve will be the funky ones where the 397 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:52,680 home field are really come into play. So, you know, 398 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,319 we never had this before, so we don't know what 399 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,279 to expect. I mean, we can speculate, but this is 400 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,480 this is new ground for all of. 401 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,319 Speaker 1: Us, no doubt, no doubt. Let's let's get the team 402 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:03,759 you cover on a week to week basis. USUF gonna 403 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:05,519 be Bowl eligible for the second year in a row 404 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:09,279 under Alex Golish. Just talk about you know, year two 405 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:12,079 has been a difficult year because Byron Brown's not playing 406 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:14,119 a lot in the last six seven weeks. You know, 407 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,279 they've had the labor you had, you had the little 408 00:21:16,279 --> 00:21:19,359 incident at FAU with Alex and Tom Herman, who has 409 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,200 now been canned. You will give it the honest I 410 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,720 don't remember. You know, last year FAU, the thought was 411 00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:26,759 they ran the score up. 412 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,559 Speaker 5: In well, they did run the score up, and the 413 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:34,680 score was the score was fifty six to fourteen, and 414 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:39,920 FAU attempted and got an on sidekick, which you know, 415 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119 we see all kinds of crazy on side kicks, but 416 00:21:42,279 --> 00:21:43,759 at that point in the game, I've never seen anything 417 00:21:43,799 --> 00:21:47,240 quite like that. So, of course, very frosty. After the game, 418 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:49,640 I think Alex Golish and so many words, told Tom 419 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Herman will be back, and they were and bocratone and 420 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,359 then the handshake, of course, made national headlines. It was 421 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,960 it was actually hilarious to watch. It was you know, 422 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,920 it was internet sensation and you just got to love 423 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,680 these crazy moments like that. So USF got its revenge. 424 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,400 And you know, the one thing is they start USF 425 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,960 started out two and four, playing some really good teams, Alabama, Miami, 426 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,359 two Lane, and Memphis among them. They have since righted 427 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,000 the ship. They've won four of their last five. They're 428 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:24,960 six and five. Obviously the schedule has been more forgiving. Yeah, 429 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,440 I mean, you can't deny that, but also the Bulls 430 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,920 have played much better. Bryce Archie, who stepped in from 431 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,599 Byron Brown, has got found his sea legs. He's actually 432 00:22:35,599 --> 00:22:38,720 played quite well at times. The offensive line has really 433 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,279 come together well, the backs are playing well, and the defense. 434 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,240 Here's the big thing, the defense, which I don't know, 435 00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,559 what's it been five years where we're just begging for sacks, 436 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,480 begging for some havoc, and they're finally creating havoc and 437 00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:54,799 getting to the quarterback. So that's the biggest thing. So 438 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,920 I think USF is playing well at the end of 439 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,359 the season. 440 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,759 Speaker 1: And two things for me is one, you got back 441 00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:03,000 to back years of bowl eligibility, so you get another 442 00:23:03,319 --> 00:23:06,039 ten days or so to practice. You get some national 443 00:23:06,079 --> 00:23:08,720 exposure in your bowl game, which is gonna help Alex 444 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:11,200 in the recruiting and the portal or high school kids. 445 00:23:11,839 --> 00:23:14,359 So I just think just the momentum back to back, 446 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,359 you stayed again. You came back from two and four, 447 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,640 which was good because it wasn't looking good after two 448 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,720 and four. I was at the Memphis game and it 449 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:23,079 was that was an ugly loss, and you were worried, Hey, 450 00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,279 are they gonna win more in a couple more games? Here, 451 00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:29,880 but give them credit, they've stabilized Bowl eligible again. Year 452 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,960 two of Alex has worked. We're doing well again. You 453 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:35,680 imagine the coaching staff and for the most part be back, 454 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,640 which is another year stability there so again. And the 455 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,640 new stadium has started because you know, the groundbreaking and 456 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,519 all that's underway. If not all, if it hasn't already happened, 457 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:47,359 it's gonna happen here in the coming days. Lots of 458 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,279 things going up for USF on the football. 459 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 5: Side, Yep, they've got a lot to sell now. And 460 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720 if they can finish with a win against Rice and 461 00:23:54,759 --> 00:23:56,559 win the bowl game, that's eight and five. 462 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: Yep. 463 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,839 Speaker 5: That's certainly an upward trajectory by all accounts. They are 464 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,640 going to sign a very good class here next week 465 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,759 with high school kids they've got. We're starting to see 466 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:10,559 some of the goalish signees get into the lineup now, 467 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,599 the freshmen and the guys that they brought in who 468 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,480 maybe red shirted, and some of these guys are terrific. 469 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:19,119 I mean, they've got a good core of of young 470 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 kids they're going to start taking over, if not now 471 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:25,200 next season. So it certainly like that looks like they've 472 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,559 built a very very good foundation. People will say, well, 473 00:24:28,559 --> 00:24:31,680 where's the where's the signature win? Where is it? I 474 00:24:31,759 --> 00:24:35,119 you know, I don't see one either. But the difference 475 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,519 is and I guess baby steps. Maybe they are beating 476 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,599 people they're supposed to be the games they're supposed to win. Yeah, 477 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:44,359 and they were not doing that a couple of years ago. 478 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,079 In fact, they you know, remember when Golish got hired, 479 00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:50,559 they were coming off a one and eleven and that 480 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,599 one was an FCS school, So we're talking about just 481 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,279 the dregs. They couldn't beat FBS teams and they they 482 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:01,839 couldn't beat any buddy on the road. So if they 483 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,599 beat Rice, they will have a winning record on the 484 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,039 road for the first time I believe since twenty seventeen. 485 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,599 So they are slowly but surely getting this thing back. 486 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,079 They do next year, they open with Boise State in Tampa. 487 00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:20,960 It's an interesting opener. They also go in back to 488 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,960 back weeks to Florida and Miami. So you know, let 489 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,279 your imagination race. If USF can be successful to some 490 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,160 degree in those three games, maybe they're being talked about 491 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,559 in the in the playoff ranking next year. It's you know, 492 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,400 I have to at least admit that's a possibility if 493 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,240 they can continue this trajectory. They do have to win 494 00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,279 the games that win the big games, but they'll be 495 00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,640 in a position next year again to make some noise, 496 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,559 no doubt. 497 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: All right, before get before you get off yours of 498 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,599 what once you give the adds a thought or two 499 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,160 again the sudden passing of a mere abduor Raheem a 500 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,039 little over a month ago. Just talk about the gut 501 00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:59,119 punch that was for that university, in that basketball program. 502 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,559 We all remember where he's got them off to such 503 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:05,000 a great start year one, and just the suddenness of 504 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:07,759 what happened. Just just give the addsible thought about how 505 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,400 that program, the athletic department is kind of working through that. 506 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a long process. And the interesting thing 507 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,039 is it's not just the basketball team. It's all the 508 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:21,319 teams and all the coaches and all the everybody who 509 00:26:21,319 --> 00:26:24,960 touches USF and any capacity. Because one thing a mirror 510 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,640 abdur Raheem did was he included everybody. He was asked 511 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,119 to speak to I think every team on campus by 512 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,079 the coaches of those teams for inspiration. He was that 513 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,359 kind of guy that he would. You know, you went 514 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,279 to the conference golf tournament for the women and he's 515 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:44,519 out there walking the eighteen, you know, rooting for the team. 516 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:47,240 So he was not only a really good basketball coach, 517 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,200 but a really special ambassador and the kind of guy 518 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,039 that just touched you in a unique way. Whether you 519 00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:56,880 were a student, president of the university, a sports tried 520 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,079 or anybody. He had that unique ability. And certainly last 521 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,519 year with a conference championship, they got off to a 522 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:07,720 great start in his first year, and this was going 523 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:08,960 to be a year where they were going to turn 524 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000 the corner and be even bigger. So, you know, the 525 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:16,039 news that came to all of us, I think it 526 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:21,720 was on a Thursday, late in the afternoon, was just devastating. 527 00:27:21,799 --> 00:27:24,759 I mean, the forty three year old man, a vibrant, 528 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:28,240 full of life guy. I still in some ways cannot 529 00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:32,599 believe this has happened. But the basketball team is moving on. 530 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,960 They had a very successful trip to Myrtle Beach where 531 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,119 they won two or three games in pluting one at 532 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,559 the buzzer. They've got some tough games coming up and 533 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,519 for people that are watching on ESPN, Memphis looks like 534 00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,319 it's going to be pretty good this year. So they 535 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,480 have two games with Memphis and the conference, so I 536 00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:54,960 think USF is again going to be a contender in 537 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 the American Conference. You know, they'll have to play against 538 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,559 the likes of Memphis and UAB, but they have a 539 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,680 very talented roster with interim head coach Ben Fletcher and 540 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,720 coach Emir is on everybody's mind. I think every place 541 00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:11,240 we've been he's been mentioned with the moment of silence, 542 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,640 which is awesome for football and basketball throughout the country. 543 00:28:16,039 --> 00:28:19,480 So he's still on our minds. But as we all know, 544 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,160 life moves on and that we're just you know, ultimately, 545 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,480 I guess grateful that we got to have him for 546 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,240 for just one year because it was a special year, right, 547 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,119 it really was. 548 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: He galvanized this community, the sports community, to put us 549 00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:35,160 F on the map and again took them to heights 550 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,559 that they had never really been to ever before, as 551 00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,680 far as the conference title and all that good stuff 552 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,680 and national exposure and all that great stuff. So again, 553 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,400 he'll he'll always be remembered. I'm sure at some point 554 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,160 they will probably do a you know, statue campus or 555 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,279 a statue. 556 00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 5: Of something for him. And the one thing they have 557 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,279 done is you know, the one thing that's great is 558 00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:59,039 the student section is still still kicking it in the 559 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:00,920 In the games they've had this year, the students have 560 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,319 come out and for you know, sort of obscure non 561 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,200 conference opponents, the students have still shown out and they 562 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,240 have named that the Amir Abdu Raheem's Student Section, which 563 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,160 is appropriate because people might remember last year, every time 564 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,240 there was a big win, coach Emir wouldn't just wave 565 00:29:17,319 --> 00:29:18,720 to the crowd and go to the locker room. He 566 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,640 got out there and in the middle of him and 567 00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:24,640 danced and hung out. I mean, he loved those those students, 568 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,400 they loved him. So it's only appropriate that you would 569 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,759 be remembered, you know, in that student section. 570 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: All right, let's transition. Let's go up to Gainesville again. 571 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,319 We're listening to talking to Joey Johnston, USF Bulls football 572 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:39,599 and basketball analyst again, longtime sports writer in the state 573 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,359 of Florida, covered all these great rivals Miami FSU Florida. 574 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,400 So we're gonna get to Florida here. How surprised are 575 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000 you that Billy Naper's been able to turn kind of 576 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,440 this around a little bit? You know, seven eight weeks 577 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440 ago he was dead man walking and now he looks 578 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,160 like he's walking through walking on water here with beaten 579 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,680 LSU and all miss it back to back weeks and 580 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,640 almost beat Tennessee, almost beat Georgia. How surprised you that 581 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000 they were able to turn the corner there and salvage 582 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,799 you know, his job and kind of a manageable and 583 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,000 a bowl game for the Gators. 584 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm really surprised because these are not things you 585 00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:17,759 see happening in the current climate of college football, with 586 00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,799 the Internet, with the scrutiny, with the expectations. In a 587 00:30:22,839 --> 00:30:26,079 place like Gainesville, once you get deep in that pit, 588 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400 it's tough to climb out. I mean, you hardly ever 589 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,319 see it happen. It seemed like when you reading the 590 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:35,640 tea leaves that it wasn't when he would be fired. 591 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,519 It wasn't but when yeah, right, and and I you know, 592 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,960 I kept waiting for that moment when we were going 593 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,599 to get the news that never came. I was pleasantly surprised. 594 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,119 I guess that they seemed to be sticking with him 595 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720 as the Gators were sort of treading water as a 596 00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:56,279 five hundred team. Thought, you know, there's something admirable in 597 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:58,920 its own right. That teams don't even do even even 598 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,759 lower than Florida. They don't do that. So what what 599 00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:05,319 what the Gators have done in the last two weeks 600 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,400 is remarkable, beating LSU and Old Miss, putting themselves into 601 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,599 a bowl game. Uh dj Lagway, tremendous quarterback. They've got 602 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:16,799 something to build on. It looks like the recruiting is 603 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:23,079 coming along just fine. It's it's a testament to patience. 604 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:31,599 It's a testament to I think Billy Napier uh get yeah, 605 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,039 he just you know, that's a tough deal when you're 606 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:37,680 when you're the coach and you're being ripped apart like that. 607 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,960 For him to kind of stay the course is admirable. 608 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,279 We'll see how it goes moving forward. But this has 609 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,559 been this has been a remarkable season. If the Gators 610 00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:49,799 can finish out beating f s U and winning a 611 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:52,519 bowl game, that's that's gonna be something none of us 612 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:57,079 saw happening. You know, maybe there'll be some changes in 613 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,799 the coaching staff next year at some of the places, 614 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,400 some adjustments to get things going. But boy, they they 615 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,640 have done a remarkable job against an incredibly tough schedule. 616 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,160 They could have and could have maybe should have beaten Tennessee. 617 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,279 Uh play and get hurt. They might beat Georgia maybe maybe. 618 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,200 So I'm I'm standing in an admiration of of just 619 00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:23,279 the gators persistence to get to this point of the season. Obviously, 620 00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:29,680 the expectations do not stop. They'll get even hight free Reprieve. Yeah, 621 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,720 he got to reprieve. So but again, at Florida you 622 00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:37,400 can win and win big. We've seen it happen. So uh. 623 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,599 You know, Gators are one of the teams in the 624 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,240 country that you can you can realistically say, can win 625 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,640 a national championship in most years of all things are equal. 626 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:50,279 So Billy Napier has that kind of job. And now 627 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,759 as they've gotten to U plus five hundred team and 628 00:32:55,759 --> 00:33:00,599 and and a Bowl win, perhaps that's great, But that again, 629 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,759 that's not the standard in Gainsville. The standard games will 630 00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:05,680 is to win the SEC and the an international championship. 631 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,920 That hasn't changed, and regardless of how he's weathered this season, 632 00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:11,960 that will be the expectation for next year. 633 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:15,079 Speaker 1: On a different note, how surprised for a guy that 634 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,319 I know you've covered a lot of I won't say scandals, 635 00:33:18,359 --> 00:33:20,839 but just negative things off the field and off the court. 636 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:23,119 How surprised are you that Todd Golden still the coach 637 00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:23,640 at Florida? 638 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:29,559 Speaker 5: Well, I don't. I don't have all the information on this. 639 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,880 I just know what I've heard and read. I guess 640 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,200 we'll have to let it, let it play out. I 641 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:40,240 guess again, without knowing the complete story, I would have 642 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:44,960 to surmise that the fact that he is coaching indicating. 643 00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:46,079 Speaker 1: He hasn't been suspended at all. 644 00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is the game. It indicates something. So they 645 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,960 must have some information that that has allowed him to 646 00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:56,839 continue with the team. If if if they had some 647 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,920 evidence to the contrary, I feel certain that he would 648 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,559 he would be suspended or or some other fate. So 649 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,599 I think we just have to let this play out 650 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,039 and see what comes about. But again another you know, 651 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,800 how do you predict something like this? Again, when that 652 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,559 news came out, we all think, we all stepped back 653 00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:20,880 and had to just say, what the heck. So we'll 654 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,320 see what happens. But what's been reported certainly not what 655 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,880 you want and not a good look for anybody. Let's 656 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:29,800 see how it all ends. 657 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,519 Speaker 1: Let's move up to tallahassee the disaster of all disasters 658 00:34:34,519 --> 00:34:38,159 in twenty twenty four. The two and nine Seminoles, you know, 659 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,760 they you know what the top ten expectations this year 660 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,960 for sure, DJU. The whole transfer portal project just a 661 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,960 complete abject failure. They finally a couple of weeks back fire, 662 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,840 the coordinators, you know, they clean house with everybody except 663 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,599 the head coach with his buyout. He's not losing his 664 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,920 job this year. Just talk about how surprised you are 665 00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,400 that it was has gone so abjectively bad up in Tallassee. 666 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm not sure I could remember a 667 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,559 season among the major schools in Florida that's gone like this. 668 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,000 That that uh, you know, we've seen certainly seasons where 669 00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:19,599 it's gone below expectations, but not like this, not not 670 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,360 like you know, from from a playoff contender to you know, 671 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,000 two and nine. I mean, that's unheard of. We've never 672 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,679 seen it happen before. So the question is, how, how 673 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:33,239 do how do we go from here? Where is where 674 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,559 the where do the seminoles go from here? In the 675 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:39,440 transfer portal era, you can get good fast. 676 00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:42,159 Speaker 1: Where you can get bad fast, you can. 677 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 5: Get bad fast. I think that's what happened. Their decisions 678 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360 were not good. So they have to do a better 679 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,840 job of bringing in better players for their culture, obviously, 680 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,199 because it didn't work at all this year. You know, 681 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440 they're they're one, you know, winning streak away next year 682 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,360 from this being a bad memory. But that's easier said 683 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,159 than done. It'll be a real challenge, I think for 684 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,800 Mike Norvel to get it going in a good way 685 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,800 because the way last season ended with the denial of 686 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,559 the of the playoff and the ridiculous Orange Bowl, and 687 00:36:15,599 --> 00:36:19,559 then this season there's been a stain in Tallahassee that 688 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,639 you know, this this proud program is that it places 689 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,920 it hadn't been maybe in three or four decades, maybe longer, 690 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,840 So there's a lot of cleaning coach pre coach Bouden, 691 00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,280 there were zero to eleven one of those years. But 692 00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:38,960 again the expectations were nothing. Back early seventies for Florida State, 693 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,760 coach Bowden brought expectations, championship expectations, which will forever be 694 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,760 the case in Tallahassee. So I think I think for 695 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,960 the most part, the the avid Seminole fans must just 696 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,079 be closing their eyes just thinking this is a bad 697 00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:56,599 dream and let let it get over let's start the 698 00:36:56,599 --> 00:37:01,400 whole thing over that being said, Uh, if for some 699 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,239 quirk of fate they could be successful on Saturday in Tallahassee, 700 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,079 well that would be a heck of an end of 701 00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,400 this season for Florida State. I'm not saying that's going 702 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,199 to happen, but they have the opportunity to kind of 703 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,920 put some smiles on some faces here. 704 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:18,079 Speaker 1: That was gonna be my last question for You've covered 705 00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:20,159 a lot of these Florida Florida State games when one 706 00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,920 team or both teams have been great and weird things 707 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,159 have happened in this game, and when one team's not 708 00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:27,239 supposed to be in it, they stay in it till 709 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,119 the end or they steal one. Just talk about this rivalry, 710 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,039 how it compares nationally, and again you've covered a lot 711 00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,599 of these games in the glory days with Spurrier and 712 00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:38,800 Bowden and urban Meyer. Just talk about this rivalry and 713 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,519 how it compares with others around the country. 714 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, well, you know, for for a long time, 715 00:37:43,199 --> 00:37:45,679 through the seventies and probably early eighties, it was not 716 00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:50,599 anything of a national rivalry at all. It was a 717 00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:54,119 state of Florida southern thing. And then when Spurrier and 718 00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,679 Bowden came on the scene. It became a top ten, 719 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,639 if not top five matchup every single year. I mean 720 00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,599 we uh we I think we we loved it when 721 00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:04,920 it was happening. I'm not sure we fully appreciated what 722 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,320 was going on, because you know, when when that era passed, 723 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,360 we saw how special it was that this was. This 724 00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:13,320 was the game most years, the. 725 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Game out of Florida State Miami. 726 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 5: Yep, for sure. The interesting thing to me about this 727 00:38:18,519 --> 00:38:21,679 game is I did a little looking back into go 728 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,119 back in the in the eighties to the nineteen eighty seven, 729 00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:26,800 eighty eight time when when you know the state of 730 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,440 Florida college football really got humming, and you look at 731 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,679 the Florida Florida State games in Gainesville, it's it's nine 732 00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:37,800 to nine in the last eighteen games, they're tied up. 733 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,599 The games in Tallahassee seventeen of those games, Florida's only 734 00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,719 won five of those. So it is eleven five and 735 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,280 one in favorite of Florida State in Tallahassee. And as 736 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,519 we remember, Spurrier had a impossible time winning in Tallahassee 737 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,719 one tie. 738 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,639 Speaker 1: Yes, Florida was crushing them. And then Florida State came 739 00:38:57,679 --> 00:38:59,320 all the way back. That's when I was in school 740 00:38:59,320 --> 00:38:59,880 there by the way. 741 00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, So you're right on paper, maybe it's asking 742 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,079 a little too much, but the fact that it's in 743 00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:10,400 Tallahassee at night. 744 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,199 Speaker 1: Maybe more's a fifteen point favorite. That is a big number. 745 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,719 And I know Florida State's bad. 746 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. And I tell you this though. One 747 00:39:21,519 --> 00:39:23,679 of the games I do remember very well in Tallahassee 748 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,440 thirty one thirty one, for sure, that's one of the 749 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,480 most memorable events I've ever covered. But another one that 750 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:32,320 was interesting to me was two thousand and four when 751 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,079 they unveiled the Bobby Baden statue and ron Zuk had 752 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,840 been fired and he was coaching out the season Florida one. 753 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:42,800 So the fired ron Zuke got carried off on the 754 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,039 shoulders of the Gator players and Bobby Baden, who had 755 00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:48,360 a statue, had to had his head down walk out 756 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,320 off the field. It was it was just bizarre, And 757 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,840 that was an example, like you said, of anything can 758 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,960 happen in this series, no doubt, No doubt. 759 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:57,519 Speaker 1: Joey tellerbrand where they can watch USF and Rice this 760 00:39:57,599 --> 00:40:00,239 weekend as well as USF basketball. They're not in the 761 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,440 Tampa Bay area. And you know whether it's on the 762 00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:03,639 is it the varsity app. 763 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: Where you guys are at, it's yeah, it's on the 764 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,239 tune in app and it's the Balls Unlimited and you 765 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,480 can access it up if you need to. Off the website, 766 00:40:12,519 --> 00:40:15,079 go us F Bulls dot com. The game will be 767 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,280 carried on ESPN Plus. And then of course we'll we'll 768 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,440 be on hand for the Bowl game whenever that is, 769 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,679 you know. And and then looking forward to next season, 770 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,159 we are going to have a signing day show next 771 00:40:28,159 --> 00:40:32,519 week on December fourth, uh, to go over the Bulls class. 772 00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:34,280 So that's another thing you can go to go us 773 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,840 F Bulls dot com for to to see what who 774 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,519 the players are that the Bulls are bringing in for 775 00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:40,039 next year. 776 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: Well, tell me where they can find your great work 777 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:44,719 is again Joey covers us F. Anybody does other stuff 778 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,000 as well. Tell me where they can find you a 779 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:47,320 great work on X and Twitter. 780 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 5: Yeah on x slash Twitter is at Joey Johnston eight 781 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,760 one to three and I do a good bit of 782 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,320 writing and that again will appear on the website. You 783 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,880 go us F Bulls dot com. 784 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,679 Speaker 1: Well, Joey's fantastic. You could definitely read Joey's stuff on 785 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,880 USF and again, this guy's covered so many great events 786 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,960 in the state of Florida throughout the years. He is 787 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,599 a savant. You've already a title. 788 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,679 Speaker 5: Thanks savant. I like it. You like to sound up. 789 00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: That's it, Joey Johnson. Appreciate the time. Have a great Thanksgiving, 790 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,440 Christmas Holidays coming up. Stay safe and enjoy the rest 791 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,000 of the regular season in football and basketball. 792 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,679 Speaker 5: Thank you, Jason, Happy thanksgoing to you and all your 793 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:26,519 viewers as well. 794 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: We are heading to the stretch run of the college 795 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,280 football season, approaching the midpoint of the National Football League. 796 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,320 The NHL season is underway, NBA is right around the corner, 797 00:41:37,679 --> 00:41:41,320 and Major League Baseball playoffs are in full force. 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