WEBVTT 1 00:00:34.759 --> 00:00:35.840 I don't think I have enough Hans. 2 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:40.799 Uh yeah, yeah, more pizza, I guess is that or 3 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:42.920 I should have more Jake's French fries last night? 4 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:45.399 Oh maybe that's why I was hung over. To Sorry, 5 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:47.159 I'm looking at the wide and it makes me look 6 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:48.679 like I have a halo, you know those like pain. 7 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:54.200 You look like. I don't want to like drama from Discolisium. 8 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:57.000 His car like is like one of those one of 9 00:00:57.039 --> 00:00:57.960 those Jesus candles. 10 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.280 Yeah, this is a great joke since no one's going 11 00:01:00.320 --> 00:01:02.280 to see the video for this, but I think it's 12 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:03.520 I think it's kind of rad. 13 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:06.640 We'll save that for another episode. 14 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.280 Anyway, everybody, Welcome to Games About after Dark episode. I'm 15 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:10.840 just gonna take a guest because I didn't look it 16 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:11.480 up this morning. 17 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:16.319 To sixty, that's it, you nailed it? Is it? I 18 00:01:16.359 --> 00:01:17.359 have no fucking idea. 19 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:22.000 You only you, dear viewer, know the true answer. So 20 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:24.120 what episode this podcast is on this week? 21 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:27.439 On Unsolved Mysteries? Uh? 22 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.760 That is Curtain of Vina Hi give me uh uh 23 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:33.120 it's Unsolved Mysteries, the one with Jonathan Fakes. 24 00:01:33.400 --> 00:01:35.480 No that you're thinking beyond belief? 25 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:39.239 Okay, the one Unsolved It's friction. Yeah, no, so uh true. 26 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.400 Yeah, Beyond Belief is the great one where he's like, 27 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.000 have you ever tied your shoe in a busy subway station? 28 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.560 And while man while a man farted next to. 29 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:50.200 You, occasionally put like that compilation on of just all 30 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.079 of him, asking all those questions, and it's so funny. 31 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.719 Have you ever put a hot plate? Have you ever 32 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:59.760 sat on a hot plate and whistled, twinkled tiggle, little star? Well, 33 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:04.159 this is what Sarah did in tonight's Beyond Belief. No, 34 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:06.840 so that's what Jonathan frakes and then Unsolved Mysteries is 35 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.199 with Robert Stack the man. 36 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:12.080 Who Oh is that the one where they do re enactments? 37 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.639 Yeah, so yeah. Beyond Beliefs whole thing is they tell 38 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:17.919 you three stories and you have to guess whether they 39 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:22.159 were fast fiction. That's like have you ever left an 40 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:24.560 ice cube out in the sun on a warms on 41 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:26.479 a warm summer day. And then it turns out the 42 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:27.960 stories about like a man who was like stabbed at 43 00:02:27.960 --> 00:02:29.719 death when I with an icicle And then you have 44 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:31.520 to and there's no evidence of his death, you have to. 45 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.039 This is not from Beyond Belief. This is from an 46 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.280 autopsy book that I read. This is a true story 47 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:38.280 about a man who was killed. They couldn't find the 48 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:40.479 murder weapon, but it's because of Icol killed him and 49 00:02:40.520 --> 00:02:45.800 Melton anyway, perfect murder weapon. Yeah, that perfect crime. So yeah, 50 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.479 that's that's beyond. That's Jonathan fakes. What about Jonathan Ferguson. 51 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.520 Jonathan Ferguson, Yeah, that's the guy who shows you guns 52 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:56.639 and asks if they're actually you show him guns and 53 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:00.479 then ask is this factor fiction? And then Jonathan like, 54 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.639 have you ever walked out the side of seven and 55 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.319 then it melted because they made of ice? Yeah? 56 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.719 Uh, actually not to kind of derail it, I guess. 57 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:16.759 But like our our friends launched exp yes, they did, 58 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.080 and I feel like we should we should plug that. 59 00:03:19.199 --> 00:03:20.840 No, I'm happy to plug that. 60 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:25.120 Yes, So it's sick if you find folks enjoyed uh 61 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.199 the Firearms Expert Reacts series or any of the Expert Reacts. 62 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:32.560 Those were done by the Lovely UK Boys Adam David Chris, 63 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:37.000 who were unfortunately made redundant last year and are no 64 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:40.800 longer with the company, but they have decided to continue 65 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:44.400 that venture on their own. They launched a Patreon called 66 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:48.240 e xp where they're basically. 67 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:50.639 Doing the get same thing. I was like, I'm like 68 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:52.840 so impressed that e XP is not a thing that 69 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:57.919 they were able to they were. Yeah, it feels like 70 00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:59.719 fate that they got it. Yeah. 71 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.280 So yeah, if you enjoyed that kind of stuff and 72 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:06.000 want to see that continue, should go support them. Yeah, 73 00:04:06.039 --> 00:04:09.039 and they're and their ventures watch EXP on YouTube. 74 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:09.400 Watch. 75 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.479 I think it's similar thing every Saturday. Jonathan Ferguson. They 76 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.479 still still got that ban, Yeah, but there's still more. 77 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:17.399 There's more stuff they want to do on top of 78 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:19.079 that now that they don't have to worry about like 79 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:20.879 game spot duties that they had before. 80 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:24.319 Yeah. But yeah, I'm super happy for them. They have 81 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:26.720 a Stalker two one coming cool. 82 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:30.920 Oh yeah, yeah, because I mean that game does actually 83 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.279 some really cool like things with guns. 84 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.519 Well that's what yeah, I mean, I'm not you. I mean, like, 85 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:37.600 I love the work they do, and I love Jonathan 86 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:40.079 as an entity and a personality. But I mean that's 87 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.120 could be here. I usually just watch it for Jonathan 88 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.720 and Dave rather than the game itself. But Stoker two 89 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:46.120 is one of those games where like they do like 90 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:46.879 those guns. 91 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:50.439 I've seen videos of people like talk about Yeah, some 92 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.839 of the details the guns have already and I was 93 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:54.680 sitting there. I remember watching them being like, man, I 94 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:58.600 kind of wish I wish I had Jonathan Ferguson right 95 00:04:58.639 --> 00:04:59.959 now to tell me about this, even. 96 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:01.600 Like which in the AMMO and the shotgun and the 97 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.639 pump action shotguns that every time you switch the AMMO 98 00:05:04.720 --> 00:05:06.879 that he has to take out all the other cartridges 99 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:08.639 before he puts in the new Oh, I didn't even 100 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:11.079 know that. I havn't used the shot and it has Yeah, 101 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.160 it has great like where you can put it, like 102 00:05:13.160 --> 00:05:17.800 there's always the extra slot that pump action shotguns through 103 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:22.519 the chamber you call it. Yeah, And I love using 104 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:24.560 the pump action shotgun of that game. But it's definitely 105 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:28.160 if I empty that in a gunfight, I'm not reloading it. 106 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.800 The gun fight's over. I switched all my other guns. 107 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:33.360 I mean that's that's I feel like that's realistic. 108 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:35.639 Yeah, no, I know that thing feels like I'm not 109 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:38.879 sitting here and pumping seven more cartridges in this thing. 110 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:42.439 So yeah, I had to watch that. Yes, Uh, that's 111 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.360 a good show. Jake. Also, Jake Decker didn't get introduced 112 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:45.759 you yet. 113 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:50.680 Oh yeah, I'm here, Angelic and ship. 114 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:54.720 There's a lot. There's actually a lot to talk about. 115 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:57.519 Oh well, first off, we weren't here last week. We 116 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.560 we missed a week and that's because we had we 117 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:03.720 had a big shoot in the office that was like 118 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:06.519 all consuming for several days, and because of that, we 119 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:08.680 just weren't able to fit in like time to record 120 00:06:08.680 --> 00:06:10.680 this podcast, which is why we weren't here last week. 121 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:11.800 So apologies for that. 122 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.000 But because of that, we actually have like a lot 123 00:06:14.000 --> 00:06:16.000 of stuff to talk about, because there's been some gosh 124 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:20.480 dang video games that have come out, but I want 125 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:21.720 to talk about Shocker instead. 126 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:26.759 Okay, all right, hey everyone, this is a video game podcast. 127 00:06:26.759 --> 00:06:28.759 We're gonna talk about video games eventually. 128 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:31.879 Kurt, please explain to the audience what Shocker is. 129 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.519 Oh okay, I mean Max just asked her to do that, 130 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:36.759 and Kurt's like, I don't. 131 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:41.519 Think I can, or more do I want to? How 132 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.160 much do I want? No? I do, because I I 133 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:47.040 think it's really important that everyone knows about this movie. 134 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.439 I agree. Okay, So where do I begin? I guess 135 00:06:50.439 --> 00:06:53.639 I'll start with a It is a Every time I 136 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.680 think of a word to describe it, even a genre, 137 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:56.759 it doesn't quite make sense. 138 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.360 I mean, if you could start with the director, that's ado. 139 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:02.560 Yeah, well okay, so it's a It's a film from 140 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.040 nineteen eighty nine, directed and written by Wes Craven. You 141 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.279 may know Wes Craven most famously for Nightmare and Elm Street. 142 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:12.920 He did the first film, none of the others except 143 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.319 for New Nightmare, and then he went on to do Scream. 144 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.319 He's kind of seen as you know, who the fuck 145 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.639 Wes Craven is. So, but during there was a certain 146 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:22.759 period of time when Wes Craven was making a lot 147 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:25.079 of interesting films in the eighties, and one of them 148 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:29.639 is Shocker. Shocker was Wes Craven's attempt at trying to 149 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:34.279 start a new franchise like Nightmare and Elm Street because 150 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:38.240 he was unhappy with how the sequels were coming out 151 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:40.079 for NIGHTMARELM Street. So he was like, I want to 152 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.439 make a new one. But instead of a guy that 153 00:07:43.519 --> 00:07:45.920 comes for you in your dreams, I'm gonna make a 154 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:50.720 guy who comes out of your TV sort of kind 155 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.040 of the rule Baby. 156 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:58.560 The rules of Baby of the Villain are less. 157 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:00.959 Any rules. 158 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.360 Yeah, there are no rules, and that's kind of what 159 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:03.959 makes it amazing. 160 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:08.319 Is also a film that has dreams that actually, oh yeah, 161 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.399 break the dimension of reality where people can come and 162 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.959 go into dreams and get objects from dreams. 163 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:16.600 It's funny how much he like is both trying to 164 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:21.680 like get away from nightmare but also is like almost 165 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:24.040 trapped by it in some ways, like or or I 166 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:24.879 don't mean, I don't even. 167 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:26.079 Know if he was trying to get away from it. 168 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:28.920 I just can just feel it, feel that energy. It 169 00:08:28.959 --> 00:08:31.519 does have that like I'm gonna make my own. 170 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:33.759 Yeah, but just just but just to kick it off, 171 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:39.000 this movie is fucking absurd. It fucking rules. It has 172 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.919 the hardest fucking hair metal soundtrack does any movie I've 173 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.840 heard in the fucking eighties. Uh, it is batshit insane. 174 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:47.840 It goes from being. 175 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:51.000 Like it's also like three movies in One's five movies. 176 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.159 Yeah, it goes from one movie. It starts off as 177 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:56.879 like college football guy kind of comedic, yeah, for like 178 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:58.600 five minutes, and also it's like, oh, now you're in 179 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.000 a nightmare scene, not only anymore. 180 00:09:02.200 --> 00:09:06.159 You know college football, and then suddenly like it hard 181 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.440 cuts to let's go back home, and then the color 182 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:12.399 palette yeah, completely shifts from like bright and poppy to 183 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:13.919 just like, Oh, we're in a horror movie, and I 184 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:15.600 was like, what is going on? Why has this movie 185 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:16.879 changed into a different movie. 186 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:19.120 Yes, but I find this movie so hard to sell 187 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:21.799 because even when I told Jake and John Luke about it, 188 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:24.000 it was just a text. I was like, I watched 189 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:28.279 a movie called Shocker. You need to watch Shock. No 190 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:29.840 one said a fucking word back to me. But it's 191 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:31.600 because I was like, I don't know how. I just like, 192 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:33.480 you have to trust me in good faith because even 193 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:36.639 if I tell you about certain scenes, I can't because 194 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:43.159 you need to experience it in real time. So yes, Also, uh, 195 00:09:43.480 --> 00:09:47.960 Shocker stars Mitch Peleggi, who is most well known for 196 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:52.399 playing Walter Skinner and X Files. He is incredible, And 197 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:55.480 so it's Walter Skinner, who was like Fox Molder and 198 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:59.919 Dana Scully's boss. But it's him basically doing a Robbert 199 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.559 England like Freddy Krueger version, but he's like a. 200 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:06.600 And he kills it. As far as I'm concerned, he yeah, 201 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:07.120 so good. 202 00:10:07.240 --> 00:10:10.080 He's a very prolific serial killer in this movie. He's 203 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:12.360 killed like thirty people by the time the movie starts, 204 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.840 and he just keeps getting away with it. The main 205 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:16.919 character's father is a detective who just kind of looks 206 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.000 bewildered the entire film. Yeah, everyone's like one expression, the 207 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:21.840 fuck are you doing? Why can't you catch this guy? 208 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.919 What's the deal? Until finally they catch him, they put 209 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.399 him the electric chair, and by doing that, he then 210 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:32.120 becomes this electrical entity that can transfer himself to bodies. 211 00:10:32.120 --> 00:10:35.120 But sure, then I was gonna say, don't even I 212 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.320 don't even don't even spoil where it goes from there, 213 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:40.840 because because the whole the experience of watching this movie 214 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.279 was a scene happens like like you get ten minutes 215 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:48.080 in and you feel like this is where like the 216 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:50.559 climax of a of another movie. 217 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:51.080 Would have happened. 218 00:10:51.120 --> 00:10:54.679 And then Kurt said, oh, you haven't seen anything yet, 219 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:56.240 and I said it like, and then you can tend 220 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:01.759 times ten times, and you were right. Every time I 221 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.759 was like, well, hurts glooming bullshitting. It can't keep escalating, 222 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.879 and it does up until like the very last fucking minute. 223 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:15.240 It's incredible, even even the beginning, when uh did I 224 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.600 forget the main character's name that Jonathan is like trying 225 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.799 to convince his dad that his dreams might be able 226 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:25.559 to help him find this this killer or whatever, and 227 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:27.799 and you know, my brain's like, okay, so like the 228 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:29.480 crux of this movie is going to be him trying 229 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:32.039 to explain his dreams while they try to and they 230 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:34.080 try to fill that's like two minutes and then it's 231 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:35.759 just like a gone to something else. 232 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:39.360 Okay, okay, okay, what's happening? And then you got it 233 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:42.320 baby happens. And then I want to give no context 234 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.639 to that. I just know there's a phenomenal turning point 235 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:48.639 in that film when a voice says you got it baby, 236 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:50.639 and then that's when it that's again. That was one 237 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:52.720 of those moments where I was like, buckle the funk 238 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.080 up because I'm not seeing a. 239 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.279 Ship yet and I still don't know what that that was. 240 00:11:57.360 --> 00:11:59.360 I know they don't explain it. I know it's great. 241 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.279 The last thing I'll say before we move on, other 242 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:04.559 than everyone who's listening, just go watch it. Just please 243 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:09.720 go watch it. Get a pizza, get a friend, if 244 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:10.480 you have one, you. 245 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.120 Should definitely it's this is a crowd pleasing, Like watch 246 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:15.559 it with a bunch of people. 247 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.840 Go in. It's one of those things where I say, like, 248 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:20.919 go in blind. It really doesn't matter. Just like just 249 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.399 expect that whatever you see you read online like won't 250 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:26.759 prepare you for like how the thing unravels in the 251 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.360 way that it does. Also like even I'm talking about 252 00:12:29.399 --> 00:12:34.879 like even the cooler dramatic scenes that happen. But the 253 00:12:34.960 --> 00:12:37.200 last thing I'll say is this movie was I read 254 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.919 last night. I went through thirteen revisions until it got 255 00:12:40.960 --> 00:12:44.840 a rated R. Yeah, because it was getting kept getting actually, 256 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:47.360 so they had to go back and do thirteen cuts, 257 00:12:47.399 --> 00:12:49.840 which for Wes Craven has been every film he's ever 258 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.360 I would love that about Wes Craven that he just 259 00:12:53.399 --> 00:12:57.120 goes so even scream every time. He goes so hard 260 00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:00.039 that they're always like, dude, you need to relax the chill. 261 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:03.799 Way he thinks of like I mean passed away, but 262 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:06.120 like if he could see like what's going on with 263 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:11.360 with horror now and like, uh, the Terrifier movies, how 264 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:13.600 those have just kind of like side skirted the whole 265 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:15.799 rating system and have been made millions of dollars. 266 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:17.519 Oh that's a good. 267 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.480 Yeah. There is something about like Wes Craven in an 268 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:25.919 era where you can easily release unrated films and find 269 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.559 an audience for that and still like make money. 270 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:30.559 I mean, he did get his start with films like 271 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:32.279 Last House and The Left in the Hills of Eyes, 272 00:13:32.320 --> 00:13:34.360 which if ever, I don't actually don't, don't quote me 273 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:35.919 in this, but I'm pretty sure those movies are not 274 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:37.960 rated because they are fucked up. 275 00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:41.120 Sure, and he did get away with a lot of that. 276 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:43.360 It wasn't I would probably say not until Nightmare elm 277 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:46.240 Street was his big commercial breakout. And even that movie 278 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.840 had a fuck ton of revisions, a lot more gore. 279 00:13:49.519 --> 00:13:51.240 They still got away with a lot in that movie. 280 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.159 And then of course Deadly Friend happened, and I don't 281 00:13:54.200 --> 00:13:57.240 I'm not gonna go ramble about Deadly Friend, but Deadly Friend. 282 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:58.080 Is also incredible. 283 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.840 The opposite where he made a PG thirty film and 284 00:14:00.879 --> 00:14:02.559 the studio is like, no, you're what's cravey? This needs 285 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:04.200 to be r and he was like, all right, and 286 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:07.200 then then we can't release this. You need to cut 287 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:11.879 this cut down. It's so funny. But yeah. Scream also 288 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:15.519 had an X rating version that came out where some 289 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:17.720 some of the gore scenes were extended, most famously in 290 00:14:17.759 --> 00:14:21.200 the opening Drew Barrymore She's hung in the like first 291 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.720 ten minutes that film, and the original cut it was 292 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:27.799 a very slow push in on her body being hung 293 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.000 from the tree, and they were like, this is too much, 294 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.039 so they had to like theatrical cut. It's like all 295 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.960 flashy and like, don't entirely see it. Her boyfriend's and 296 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:39.600 testines like you see them actually like fall out of 297 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.200 his body in the X rated cut. But they like 298 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:44.519 trim that, they like crop the image for they are 299 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:45.120 rating one. 300 00:14:45.440 --> 00:14:47.919 The fact that we'll never get the unrated cut of 301 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:51.600 Shocker it bums me out, I know, but I also 302 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:55.240 think that movie's perfect. Oh no, I agree, but I 303 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:57.320 do think it would be even better. 304 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:02.039 Some of the quotes in that movie, Uh, take a 305 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:06.240 ride in my vault wagon? What was the other one? 306 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:10.080 Fingerlicking good? I mean there's a lot. Every single time 307 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.840 this guy speaks, he has the only vocabulary is like dick, 308 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.799 just like gurgle, Like sometimes are just making gurgling sounds 309 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:19.879 like I don't even know what he's saying. 310 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.559 Yeah, I unfortunately am that guy. And I looked at 311 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:28.879 the letterbox score and it's a two point eight. So 312 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:30.799 if you see this movie, you saw you looked at 313 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:32.879 before We want no after after we were done. 314 00:15:33.759 --> 00:15:35.320 So if you see this movie, did you leave it. 315 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:38.120 Let four and a half stars getting it up there. 316 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:40.399 So if you see this movie, nothing below four and 317 00:15:40.399 --> 00:15:42.200 a half stars, we gotta we gotta get this radio. 318 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:44.120 There's not a whole lot of reviews for this, so 319 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:46.120 I think I think we can sway it pretty easily. 320 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:46.879 What was your review? 321 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:50.039 I didn't write, but I should I was. I've been 322 00:15:50.039 --> 00:15:51.799 thinking like what i'd actually said. 323 00:15:51.840 --> 00:15:55.639 All right, So there you go, audience, go watch Shocker 324 00:15:55.679 --> 00:15:57.320 and then go leave a four and half star. 325 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:01.720 Or five or feels so compelled, let's get that rate. 326 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:03.600 I think I'll probably bump it up to five because 327 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:05.600 I was thinking about it all night, didn't. 328 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.639 Even sleep thinking about this morning. So yeah, I might. 329 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:11.200 I might go back and change that. Yeah. I was 330 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:12.840 gonna say, like the last twenty minutes of that film, 331 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:14.080 but I was like, but the twenty minutes before that, 332 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:16.720 and then the twenty minutes before that, yeah, which all 333 00:16:16.720 --> 00:16:19.519 feels like it could have been last twenty minutes. That 334 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.080 movie ends like four times and then it keeps going. 335 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:24.799 That wouldn't change a single thing. Yeah, even the ending, 336 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.600 even the actual ending is like how did that work? 337 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.120 How did that happen? Yeah, but you know it wasn't 338 00:16:32.159 --> 00:16:35.600 tend to be a franchise TV show apparently would have 339 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:38.440 completely changed the trajectory of Mitch Poleggy's career. He would 340 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:44.159 have never been Skinner and cinema as a whole. Who knows, fantastic. 341 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:48.120 Yeah, great, let's talk about some video games. 342 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:51.159 It's fine, you know what she's talking about, The Suffering. 343 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:55.360 Oh yes, I actually I am planning to play it now. 344 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.320 I am planning to play The Suffering. For context, The 345 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.159 Suffering is a PS two era game where you're like 346 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:02.000 a man in prison. 347 00:17:02.799 --> 00:17:06.079 I remember that box art so too, like going to 348 00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:09.000 Blockbustern seeing it, being like, I'm not old enough for this, 349 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:10.720 But one day I'm going to play this, and I 350 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:11.400 never did. 351 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:14.440 So Apparently like the main villain of that game is 352 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.640 directly inspired by the villain from Shocker. Yep, so I 353 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:23.759 now feel obligating Pinker is a direct TV repair man 354 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:26.160 to play The Suffering. 355 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:30.039 So no, yeah, but we'll talk about that next. 356 00:17:29.960 --> 00:17:30.960 Yea, we'll talk about that next time. 357 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:31.599 We'll do that. 358 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:36.920 Video games a couple have come out the technically we 359 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:39.160 have not talked about. It's kind of a weird one 360 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:40.519 because I feel like I haven't played enough of it 361 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:45.279 to fully form an opinion. But Avowed, M hmm, it's 362 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:46.079 a game that came out. 363 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:49.279 Yeah, I've only played like four or five hours. Yeah, 364 00:17:49.319 --> 00:17:51.559 I want to play more. But there's another game that 365 00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:53.279 we can't talk about yet that has just been. 366 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:55.480 Like consumed everything. It's like all I want to do. 367 00:17:56.480 --> 00:17:58.400 I played a good ten ish hours of a Vowed. 368 00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:03.839 How'd you feel about it? So I where do I begin? 369 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:10.359 For everything I do not like about Avowed is made 370 00:18:10.440 --> 00:18:14.519 up like tenfold for its actual design and gameplay. I 371 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.839 think like the actual design of that world, like the 372 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:19.119 way that the moment to moment gameplay of like exploring 373 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:21.920 that world, doing the parkore, finding the nooks and crannies, 374 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.839 like finding interesting things. The actual combat is like top 375 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:30.200 tier phenomenal and rereading in. But I think everything else 376 00:18:30.240 --> 00:18:33.279 is from its writing, from its setting, from its characters. 377 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.279 Isn't bad but just surface level enough to be like 378 00:18:36.359 --> 00:18:39.799 it's good and it's like and if if if the 379 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:42.960 game was only those things, I would definitely be like, 380 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:45.039 I'm not gonna play this. I'm not going to enjoy this. 381 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:47.880 Oh weird to me because it is like the polar 382 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.960 opposite of like what I come to expect from Obsidian, 383 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:55.920 which is I come to expect like interesting but very 384 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.960 janky like gameplay mechanics, but like really stellar writing and 385 00:19:01.000 --> 00:19:03.240 like world building, and this one's like kind of the 386 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:05.319 opposite for me in that sense where it's like I 387 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.160 think the I think the gameplay and the exploroation is 388 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.599 like great in a way that I'm like wow, Like 389 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:11.680 that feels like a huge leap for Obsidian as a studio, 390 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:13.640 Like normally I don't expect that from them, But then 391 00:19:13.680 --> 00:19:16.079 I find the writing to just be just. 392 00:19:16.119 --> 00:19:16.759 It's just good. 393 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.720 It's it's just good, Like it's okay, it's it's it's 394 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:22.039 it's very wordy. 395 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:24.519 It's over explaining how I is, how I've been putting it. 396 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:27.119 It's like every everything. 397 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:29.279 I really want you to know about their lore really badly. 398 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:31.079 Yeah, And but they do it in a way that 399 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:35.359 just doesn't feel like a natural conversation between examply. There's 400 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.160 also this is like a nitpick that I've talked about 401 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.880 a few times, but I think, to me, it's really 402 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:40.839 emblematic of how I feel about the dialogue. There's a 403 00:19:40.839 --> 00:19:43.519 scene early on in the game when you're going when 404 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:46.359 you first make it to like the paradise, the area 405 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.799 and you go to like a merchant and if you're 406 00:19:49.839 --> 00:19:53.359 with Kai, your first companion, yeah, the merchants, like Kai, 407 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:55.880 I thought I told you to stop coming back here, 408 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:00.880 and in a situation like that, uh, high responds and 409 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:02.759 he's like he's like, what you're still mad about that 410 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.079 hunting knife? And there's something like that to me is 411 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:10.640 like you really didn't leave a lot to as me 412 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:13.559 as a player, to like imagine what the situation was. 413 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:15.519 I also just think it's unrealistic if somebody came up 414 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:16.680 to be like Corre thought I told you not to 415 00:20:16.680 --> 00:20:19.200 come back here. I wouldn't just explicitly say like what 416 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.319 I have, says you at that time, I pede in 417 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:23.799 your coffee, Like no, I would have been like I 418 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.480 could imagine myself being like let it go, like just 419 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:28.640 chill out, and then the person who I'm with has 420 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:31.039 to kind of unravel like what the fuck was that? Yeah, 421 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:33.240 And that's the intrigue that yeah, missing like that like 422 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:35.119 small natural of course, is like well what did you 423 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:36.799 do about the hunting knife? Like I don't care about that. 424 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:38.880 It's like the natural intrigue of being like, well, what 425 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:41.400 the fuck was that? And I don't know I just 426 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:43.759 feel it felt like a little robbed of my imagination, 427 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:45.720 and that's fine. The rest of the conversations kind of 428 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:49.039 fallow suit in that way where it's like you are 429 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:54.519 explained everything that's happening at all times to a point, 430 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:56.480 and then like it's cool that you can dig as 431 00:20:56.559 --> 00:20:58.279 much as you want into the Lord because they have 432 00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.480 that thing that was impentiment, right, Sure you can be 433 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:04.359 encyclopedia thing. Yeah, yeah, which is cool, but again it's 434 00:21:04.359 --> 00:21:05.920 still done in a way where it's like it's just 435 00:21:05.960 --> 00:21:08.319 like noise to me, like there's just so much information. 436 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:14.599 Yeah yeah, but I do. And also like, again this 437 00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:17.960 is the Kurt problems, but like if you squint your eyes, 438 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:20.319 the game doesn't really like have much of an identity. 439 00:21:20.400 --> 00:21:23.359 Like it looks good, it looks great, it plays well. 440 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:27.480 The art is phenomenal, but it's not. This goes to 441 00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:29.160 something I was complaining about a few weeks ago, where 442 00:21:29.160 --> 00:21:33.240 it's still like fantasy setting and it's like clean and 443 00:21:33.279 --> 00:21:36.279 in offensive. I don't I think you agree. I think 444 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:38.400 it evolved, like not evolves, but I think. 445 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.599 Like because I I haven't made it to this point, 446 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:43.119 but I've seen what some of the areas look like 447 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:44.920 the further along you get, and I feel like it 448 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:49.319 does start to kind of forge its own identity in 449 00:21:49.359 --> 00:21:51.079 that way. Like I said, haven't made it that far. 450 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:53.000 And I should also say I worked on this game. 451 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:54.559 I'm in the credits, so like I are going to 452 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:58.720 be somewhat careful about to say, and like you know, 453 00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:02.440 don't take my word for it if you're like deciding 454 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.039 whether or not you want to buy this game or not. 455 00:22:04.160 --> 00:22:08.319 But I do think, like what I've seen of the 456 00:22:08.400 --> 00:22:12.559 later stuff, it feels like a little more confident in 457 00:22:12.599 --> 00:22:14.640 its style. Maybe I do think I do. 458 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.119 I want to say, like it's hard for me to 459 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:18.440 figure out the wording for my criticism because like it does, 460 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.000 it does appear confident. It does on paperway look cool. 461 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:25.839 It's just not in a way that's compelling me personally. Sure, Yeah, 462 00:22:25.920 --> 00:22:28.279 just like first impressions, first ten hours of the world, 463 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:31.960 I was like, this is pretty and that's kind of 464 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:33.799 like how I feel. And also if you go into 465 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:39.000 the third person mode, I my fiance said this comment, 466 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:40.599 and I can't un see it. She says, it looks 467 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.640 like a fake video game you'd be playing in a show, 468 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.960 like a TV show that we're playing it. It's just like, oh, 469 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.240 that looks like a video game. 470 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:49.599 Sure, it's it was clearly designed for first person. 471 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:52.599 Yeah. First, but my last things will I will say 472 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:58.200 is I'm usually not a very mechanics driven person, very 473 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.240 only very specific games. I get really like into the 474 00:23:01.279 --> 00:23:03.319 like the actual feeling and design of games, mostly like 475 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.319 Resioneaval games when they're done well. But I do really 476 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.720 enjoy like the unabashed gamification in this game. It's good 477 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:16.920 that like is very clearly missing from other big open 478 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:17.920 world RPGs. 479 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:20.759 In Elder Scroll I think too, like you mentioned it, 480 00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:23.640 but like oddly enough, like the platforming is kind of satisfying. 481 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:26.319 It's very like, yeah, like there's not a lot of 482 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.880 decent first person platforming games, especially in this genre, right, 483 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:34.240 Like I think of like Elder Scrolls and it's like, yeah, 484 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:35.640 you can jump like and. 485 00:23:35.599 --> 00:23:37.440 Glitch your way up a mountain. Yeah, that's kind of 486 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:38.519 like the extent. 487 00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:40.839 Of the platforming where it's like I'm not following that path, 488 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:43.200 I'm just gonna hop up. But like actually like using 489 00:23:43.200 --> 00:23:45.680 the verticality, using the platforming in order to like get 490 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:48.640 on top of a building break open, like uh, you know, 491 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:50.720 some boards in the ceiling and jump down and like 492 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:54.279 or like fire arrows through there is like is is cool? 493 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.000 And like kind of what you were saying, Like mechanically, 494 00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:59.400 this feels like such a big step for Obsidian that 495 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.839 does maybe maybe people don't always expect. 496 00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:04.400 I mean just going off because I'm comparing this game 497 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:09.319 a lot to their last game, Outer Worlds, because structurally 498 00:24:09.359 --> 00:24:11.400 it's kind of similar. I would say their last RPG, 499 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:12.559 their last RPG. 500 00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:16.720 Sorry yes, throw that in their last. 501 00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:24.319 Big first person three RPG that game. I remember the 502 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:28.759 open world stuff being not as memorable, like like I like, 503 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:31.640 I remember like going from like a town to like 504 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:33.119 a place to do a quest, but I remember just 505 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.359 like I would walk to that quest, and I wouldn't 506 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.519 really everything in between that is kind of a blur 507 00:24:38.799 --> 00:24:41.960 where in this game, I am constantly getting distracted where 508 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:43.839 I'm like, okay, I'm gonna walk to this quest, and 509 00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:46.519 every moment I'm like, oh, what's the direction? 510 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:47.640 What's so for that direction? 511 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:51.559 And it's really well designed where it always rewards me 512 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:53.599 with something, even if it's just like hey, I'm gonna 513 00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:55.200 climb that thing and it's like, oh cool, I found 514 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.000 like gold in a bird's nest, which is like a 515 00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:00.400 small thing, but it like I was like, oh, there 516 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:02.160 was a thing here, and so then it makes me 517 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.359 want to do that every time, and like, so far 518 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:08.079 I'm always rewarded with something. I think it's incredible. That's 519 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:10.079 what makes the game incredible well designed. 520 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:13.039 The amount of times I've just walked, I've come across 521 00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.839 a building or a structure or thing and I find 522 00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:17.880 my own way into it and realize there's like fucking 523 00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:20.400 twenty other possibilities of how I could have gone into 524 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.079 that building with through the front door, like some out 525 00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:24.680 like oh I have to get into this building, and 526 00:25:24.680 --> 00:25:26.759 like went through the rooftop instead. When I realized the 527 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:29.000 entires time I could have just walked in, Why did 528 00:25:29.000 --> 00:25:30.440 I do this? How did I do all of this? 529 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:32.920 But it's great and and and despite like the map 530 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:37.440 being really seemingly small, it is very dense where it's 531 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.680 like that maybe the footprint is like small for an 532 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:42.599 open world, but I feel like the amount of like 533 00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.839 exploration I can do within that area is much more 534 00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:49.319 than like any other like other games of its of 535 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.000 its ILK. So yeah, I think that part is compelling. 536 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:54.480 I was sayn the combat is just like really really fun, 537 00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.160 especially the spell casting stuff, like it's it's kind of 538 00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.839 hard to make fun like spell casting in first person, 539 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.279 and like you just have your spell book and you 540 00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:07.079 have your wand or you have your double wands, and 541 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:10.759 you're just like maybe you're just like throwing off spells 542 00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:14.680 left and right, and it actually gets like surprisingly complex 543 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:18.839 in terms of like enemy you know, like shields and 544 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:20.720 like what they're weak too, and being like okay, I 545 00:26:20.759 --> 00:26:23.960 have to like I have to like prioritize this enemy 546 00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.079 or they're gonna like keep buffing this person. Like like 547 00:26:27.079 --> 00:26:30.279 like I think that combat is like exceptionally well made. 548 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:31.759 Yeah, that's why I keep it. That's why I compared 549 00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:33.880 it to an MMO when I was previewed it, And 550 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.400 that feels the same way, where it's your crowd controlling 551 00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:40.440 and you have like a rotation of moves that you 552 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:42.279 kind of get into rhythm of, or you realize that 553 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:44.759 there's like someone buffing another player, so then like you 554 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:46.039 have to put all your attention on that in a 555 00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.440 really interesting cool way, which I get like brings me 556 00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:49.680 back to like I have, like I don't know, it's 557 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:51.319 a muscle memory of like World the Warcraft days. 558 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:55.559 It feels much more than just oh, there's the enemies. 559 00:26:55.559 --> 00:26:57.519 I'll spam that attack and that attack, and you're just 560 00:26:57.599 --> 00:26:59.880 kind of like clicking on all your attacks. You have 561 00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.319 you do actually have to put thought and care into it. 562 00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.920 There's something sick about like having a two loadouts where 563 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:08.759 you're like sword and shield and you go in and 564 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:10.640 then you can just switch to a book in a 565 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.599 wand and like do all this sick crowd control. Like 566 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.400 I don't know, I think there's something really sad that's. 567 00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:17.519 Want in a gun and just yeah, like there's the 568 00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.839 variety and the ability to mix and matches is super cool. 569 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:26.759 I've heard that like that the that kind of becomes 570 00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.039 a problem later and that like the economy of skill 571 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:32.720 points is like an issue where I guess like there's 572 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:34.839 not enough in the game and it makes it interesting 573 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.400 difficult to actually like experiment. But I also haven't gotten 574 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:39.880 to that point, so I can't speak on it. I've 575 00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:41.279 just heard that's an issue. But at least in the 576 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:44.720 early game, like I do that first area, you are 577 00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.160 pretty you get a chance to like really like try 578 00:27:47.240 --> 00:27:49.400 mess around and try everything out, and that's like very 579 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:53.960 fun and satisfying. So yeah, I think it's cool. I 580 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:56.319 do want to play more, but I do feel like 581 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:58.839 it's slowly slipping away from me. Yeah, these other games 582 00:27:58.880 --> 00:27:59.920 are starting to kind of come in. 583 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.119 Yeah, I will say the one thing that it's actually 584 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.039 and this is not a fault of the game, it's 585 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:08.480 just it's just my play style for how well condensed 586 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:13.759 and designed everything is. I do realize how much I 587 00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:17.640 enjoyed just simply wandering around in games without the feeling 588 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:20.119 of getting distracted, if that makes sense, just like a 589 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.319 meditation and walking in games. So when I do look 590 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:27.440 at a game to play, whether it's Avowed or Stalker two, 591 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:29.759 which are the two games I'm playing the most right now, 592 00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:35.160 I often play Stalker two purely because I just enjoy 593 00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:38.400 moving through an environment and walking for a while and 594 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:42.920 just absorbing in an atmosphere. So that's all I mean. 595 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.680 The sky turns red and you just die And what 596 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:49.119 the book or you what happened to me where I 597 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.720 like was moseying along and all of a sudden my 598 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.359 radar thing wasn't going off or an anomaly and it 599 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.480 was like an explosion of electricity, and I was like, 600 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:59.079 what the fuck does happen? And then you ever played 601 00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:04.039 a death Rain? What are we talking about what are 602 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:06.440 you doing? What you are here? 603 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:10.000 No, I was playing a good amount of stalk or 604 00:29:10.039 --> 00:29:12.240 two to finish up this dock we teas the. 605 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.119 Couple months ago. We'll talk about the end of the 606 00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:15.880 pod again. Yeah. 607 00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.839 Yeah, but I was playing something and like, I'm so 608 00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:22.519 consistently impressed by like how surprising Stalker two is just 609 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.359 like and how like it just doesn't feel the need 610 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.759 to explain half the ship that happens in that game. 611 00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.200 Like I see like the most ridiculous looking anomaly that 612 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:34.599 is like sucking in, Like all the trees in your 613 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.359 by are like getting sucked in. I'm watching cars get 614 00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.960 crushed and then and like I'm like I should get 615 00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:41.640 close to that. And then I get sucked in and die, 616 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.640 and I'm like maybe there's something to figure out. And 617 00:29:43.680 --> 00:29:45.160 I go back and get sucked in and die, and 618 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:47.200 then I'm like this time, I'm gonna figure something out, 619 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.960 and I just get sucked in and die and I'm like, Okay, 620 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:53.000 I'm just gonna let this thing what it looks cool, Uh, 621 00:29:53.039 --> 00:29:54.319 clearly I shouldn't touch it. 622 00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:56.359 And then I go on and do something else. I love, 623 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:58.079 I absolutely love something. 624 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.680 About like a because your video game brain like obviously, 625 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.039 and then it's like the deaths were like no, it's 626 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:06.359 like a your fox. It's like a thing that kills you, 627 00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.079 like you're not You're supposed to not go near that, 628 00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:10.079 like standing. 629 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:11.839 Over throwing bolts at it, Like what does this do? 630 00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.240 What does this do? I'm just like I just die. Okay, 631 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.039 I love that. Yeah that's great. Yeah. There's also been 632 00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.000 a few just great unscripted moments where I think you 633 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:23.599 experienced it where this guy was like, hey, can you 634 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.359 go in that uh that radio active plan over there 635 00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:27.960 and just give me back something, And the moment you 636 00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.319 walk through the door, there's like this creature I've never 637 00:30:30.359 --> 00:30:31.279 seen before that like. 638 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.000 Multiplies into like oh yeah, other things, and I'm. 639 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:36.799 Like, I have no idea how to do it again. 640 00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:38.559 Yeah, I think you saw me like climb onto a 641 00:30:38.599 --> 00:30:40.480 box and I'm just standing there while these other people 642 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.400 are fighting it and like, you guys, take care of this. 643 00:30:43.039 --> 00:30:44.720 I have never seen this thing. I don't get down 644 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:47.680 with radiation. Yeah, okay cool. I also does appreciate that 645 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:49.880 games on RPG in the way that like you don't 646 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:53.279 have a constant feeling or need to level up or 647 00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.559 upgrade like of course you upgrade things, but there isn't 648 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.799 that sort of gameplay loop of where if you come 649 00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.640 up as an enemy and you just are getting fucking 650 00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.119 destroyed by it. It's not like I can go but 651 00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:08.400 just grind out and level but no, but just avoid. 652 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.440 I can't deal with this thing, Like yeah, you just 653 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:11.440 just walk away from it. 654 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.480 Yeah, and then you can find like an artifacts or 655 00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.960 not artifacts what are they called? Like, uh, those things 656 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.200 that give you like pretty cool buffs, but like many 657 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:23.039 because you have to work to get them. But you 658 00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:25.200 find one and it's like, oh, this is worth a lot, 659 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.960 or like you just decision making you have to make. 660 00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:29.839 I think that game is very good. 661 00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:30.799 I'm excited to play more. 662 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.519 Shift into a different game. I played like a Dragon 663 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:50.559 Iuza in Hawaii God. We gave it a seven out 664 00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.680 of ten on game Spot. I think that's pretty accurate. 665 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:58.279 To be honest, I would say this is a it's 666 00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:02.759 so dumb, it's so it's it's and and there's an 667 00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.720 interesting conversation to be had about like has this game 668 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.559 both metaphorically and physically jumped the shark of like what 669 00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:11.839 is Yakuza. 670 00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.000 Jumped the plank? Jump the plank? 671 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:15.640 I mean there there are sharks in the game, sure, 672 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:20.240 but uh, like, what is Yakuza anymore? 673 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:20.599 Is it? 674 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.720 Like you know, because it's always been this balance of 675 00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.519 like serious and like goofy. And I would say this 676 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:30.119 is like goes more on the goofy side in a 677 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:32.079 way that's just like like. 678 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.079 Have we kind of lost the plot here? Yeah, a 679 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:35.759 little bit. I think it's always been interested with that. Yeah, 680 00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.359 because the series as it started, I mean, it's it. 681 00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.559 It was always a crime drama, yeah, and then the 682 00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:46.200 thing the comedic moments were like sprinkled and lightly infused, 683 00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:49.319 and then it like got more balanced as time went on. 684 00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:53.880 But now it just feels like they completely switched. 685 00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.000 Well, at least with this one. I I and and 686 00:32:56.039 --> 00:33:00.480 I do think the balance for you, because it is 687 00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:03.119 like the reason the comedic moments works so well is 688 00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.160 because it's so fucking dramatic and exactly like you'll watch 689 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:10.759 a cutscene that's like extremely dramatic and soap operaty and 690 00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.839 just like intense and like violent, and then immediately it's 691 00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:16.359 like you see a man in his underwear like running 692 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.920 around like nabido and you. 693 00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:21.799 Know, like human statute needs to take a shit exactly. 694 00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:24.640 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and it is just like that contrast. 695 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.839 So this game leans more into that goofy side. But 696 00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:30.720 I think the fact that it is a side story, 697 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:36.119 it's not the next like big tent pole, like you know, 698 00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.880 narrative storyline the franchise, like it can get away with it. 699 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:43.000 It can be like it's like fine, It's like it's 700 00:33:43.039 --> 00:33:45.480 just you know what. This is just a weird side 701 00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:49.279 thing where Modima gets amnesia and then decides to become 702 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:52.720 a pirate. Why are their old timey pirates hanging around Hawaii? 703 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.880 Don't ask, it doesn't matter. Just get on your pirate 704 00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:01.799 boat customize. I have the stupidest boat. My boat has 705 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:06.839 all of the like neon signs from Camarocho, like bolted 706 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.920 to the side, and then my sails is a giant 707 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.920 image of Kuru's face. But because of the way the 708 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:18.239 sale like bends, it like stretches his face out, so 709 00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.880 it looks like distorted and wide and every and it 710 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.440 shows up in the cut scenes so you'll like be 711 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:27.760 they'll be like a dramatic cut scene of like we're 712 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:31.320 gonna fight those pirates. Your face, you stupid face on 713 00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:33.840 my sails, And I'm like this is so dumb. 714 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:38.159 So if has amnesia, does he know that he's put. 715 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.000 I would like to imagine, because the whole thing is 716 00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.679 Modum is like obsessed with Kru. It's like, even with amnesia, 717 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:45.719 he's still like I love that guy. 718 00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:47.280 I don't know, I. 719 00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:49.480 Don't know why, but I'm like, I know that guy. 720 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:51.880 The one question, the one question I want to ask 721 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.000 for you is a long term hardcore all right, I 722 00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:56.840 mean just in general, like do you think so like 723 00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:00.519 Nintendo has this thing where instead of coming up with 724 00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:03.440 new ips, they come up in new games and then 725 00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.719 they see how they can apply an existing IP to 726 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.079 that game. So it's like they come with new mechanics. Yeah, 727 00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:10.719 right right, so it's just like yes, exactly new mechanics, 728 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:11.880 or even like a sports game, like oh, we want 729 00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:15.440 to make a sports game and like we'll just put 730 00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:18.119 our existing Mario characters in it, and same thing with 731 00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:19.320 like yeah, it's like, oh, we came up with this 732 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.360 cool mechanic. Do you think that's what RGG is doing 733 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.079 where they're just like, we want to make a pirate game, 734 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:25.440 but we don't want to come up with a new thing. 735 00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:26.880 We just want to make a good pirate game and 736 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.599 just be like some fucking play some degree. I mean 737 00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:34.199 they you know, maybe not entirely because every game is 738 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:37.280 sort of still iterating and brings in like elements, but 739 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.440 it definitely felt like they were just like, hey, what 740 00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:41.639 if we just make like a black flag pirate thing. 741 00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:43.440 They're like, yeah, we could do that. Yeah. I will 742 00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.360 say I interviewed the director, the most recent director in 743 00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:51.760 lead of the Like A Dragon games and his whole 744 00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:54.000 I mean, the phiosophy of the studio is that they 745 00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:56.480 do operate story first. They always come up with the 746 00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.360 story first, interesting because and then they'll design the mechanics 747 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.440 around it makes most sense for that character. So that's 748 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.159 why I Like a Dragon became a turn based game, 749 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.320 because it's like, well, Itchibon Costuka is not a brawler, 750 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:11.360 he's obsessed with fantasy and dragon quest, so therefore the 751 00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:12.920 mechanics have to match that. 752 00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.920 That's interesting because I feel like this game feels the 753 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:17.920 opposite a little bit, where it does feel like maybe 754 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:19.800 they had the mechanic first and then came up with 755 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:21.800 the game because the story in this game is like 756 00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:26.000 pretty whatever. In my opinion, I haven't actually finished it. 757 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.599 I've heard like the very end it gets like it 758 00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.880 kind of gets a little more like emotional and serious, 759 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.400 but like the majority of the story is like basically 760 00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:40.119 just here's an excuse to go do wacky like gameplay 761 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.199 pirate shit like it. It is like the story feels 762 00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:46.039 more in service to the gameplay than the other way around, 763 00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.280 which again, because it's a side story, I don't mind it. 764 00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.800 I'm not like upset about it, but I do think 765 00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.280 when you look back on it, it's like, yeah, it's 766 00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:57.360 like this is fun, but like, is this going to 767 00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:00.519 this isn't going to like stick with me and hit 768 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.840 with me, because like even a game like the last 769 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.480 spinoff one they did Man Who Raised His Name, I 770 00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.199 would say the majority of that story is like not 771 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:10.639 super good. It's just kind of spinning its wheels a 772 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:13.159 little bit and you're like where's this going. But then 773 00:37:13.199 --> 00:37:17.639 the ending like just absolutely gut punches you in a 774 00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.760 way that's like, oh, like that's why this game exists, 775 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:23.119 in a way that like I was like, yeah, this 776 00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:25.440 game is great, and this game is like justified itself 777 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:30.880 and feels like it serves a purpose where this game 778 00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:32.440 and maybe again maybe this game will do it at 779 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.079 the end, but from what I've heard, it really it 780 00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.840 doesn't to that degree. This game just feels more like, ah, 781 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.039 we just wanted to have a fun little part adventure 782 00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:41.039 and I'm okay with that. There's nothing wrong with that. 783 00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:43.000 But I think that's kind of why for me, it's like, yeah, 784 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.639 it's like a seven. It's fun, it's a good time. 785 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:48.039 If you like Yakuza and you just want more of that, 786 00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:52.400 like you'll have a really good time doing it. But 787 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:54.559 if you're like I want the next big thing. I 788 00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:58.360 want like the next evolution, you don't have to play this. 789 00:37:58.519 --> 00:38:00.920 You could wait, especially if you just played It's like 790 00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.599 Infinite Wealth is like one hundred hour game. This is 791 00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.000 not is more like a twenty to thirty hour But 792 00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.119 even then, but even then, it's like, you know, if 793 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:09.639 you're just like, hey, I maybe want to break for 794 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:12.400 a minute, you know, because they make these games so often. 795 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.280 And they put like what like three. 796 00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.400 D yeah and no, like they pump them out a lot. 797 00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.559 And I also am like, well, eventually we're gonna hit 798 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:22.840 I am wondering, like when we will hit the point 799 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:23.639 of like fatigue. 800 00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:26.039 Yeah, well the next their next game is that. 801 00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:30.119 Oh yeah, that game looks sack fause that is like 802 00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:32.360 it has nothing to do with the ocasite. 803 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:34.480 It's not in the same universe. Yeahs own thing and 804 00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.760 isn't like take place in like nineteen ten or like 805 00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:38.960 in nineteen twenties. Yeah, like Japan. 806 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:40.960 And that looks awesome and I'm super excited for that, 807 00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.039 and I think that's like I wonder. 808 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:44.079 If that game is going to be funny, because that 809 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.519 truly didn't look funny. No, that came really seriously. I 810 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:48.960 wouldn't be surprised if they took it as an opportunity 811 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.239 to kind of do something different DVA. Yeah, I would. 812 00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:52.920 I would love that. And then of course then they're 813 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:56.159 doing Virtue Fighter too, like RGG Sega is just like 814 00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.480 you can take care of everything. Yeah, you can do everything. 815 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:01.119 And they make monkey Ball too, Oh my god. And 816 00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:04.760 that one that one zombie shooter game is there like 817 00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:09.880 a Dead Souls. Yeah, it's called yea, the Dead Souls. 818 00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.440 It's like a non canonical like what if zombie showed 819 00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:13.400 up and they all had to fight? 820 00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:15.320 Like so that's the thing like in a world where 821 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:18.159 like there was already a spin off game with like 822 00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:21.320 you're fighting zombies like is being a pirate? Like really, 823 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.679 That's why I'm just like has it jumped to Shark. 824 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:25.199 I'm like, I don't know. We already had like a 825 00:39:25.239 --> 00:39:27.239 weird spin off with with Zombies. 826 00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.159 I just think RGG is positioned in a different way 827 00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:31.119 in the zeitgeist, and they. 828 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.119 Were then they were, and also they were technically this 829 00:39:34.239 --> 00:39:37.280 game cannon in a way that other game was not. 830 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.320 But also I also go like, it's again, it's a 831 00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:40.760 spin off. 832 00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:41.800 It's fine. I don't. 833 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.440 To me, it's it doesn't like, oh the canon is 834 00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.960 ruined now, like, what are you doing pirates crazy? 835 00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:49.880 I'm like, no, it's fine. Do you think they're gonna 836 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.360 keep putting these games in Hawaii? 837 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:56.800 No, I don't think they'll. I think they because the 838 00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.880 whole thing is they love to, like they bank all 839 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.760 that stuff so they can go back to it. I 840 00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:04.079 think having because because they love to just like reuse 841 00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:06.280 their assets. They're very economical about the way they make 842 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.480 their games in a way that I actually super expect. 843 00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:10.280 I think it's kind of brilliant, like to like, I 844 00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:11.360 think it's extremely brilliant. 845 00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:13.280 Do that. You know, It's like we have this whole 846 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.800 space built out for the player. We could like late game, 847 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:19.199 we can have them return and it feels very natural, 848 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:20.920 Like I personally. 849 00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:22.840 Love that stuff. I think it's cool they want to 850 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.920 learn that city you start to experience in a different way. 851 00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.320 I agree one hundred percent. But I also think they, 852 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.760 at least so far, have like known when to like, Okay, well, 853 00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:34.360 well we'll take that one away for a while so 854 00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:36.239 you don't get too fatigue and will come back. So 855 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:39.079 but it makes sense that they did it with this 856 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.920 one because it's like, here's the spinoff that's building off 857 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.840 a lot of what the last game was. It's what 858 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.880 like like Lost Judgment was did the same thing where 859 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:50.840 like after seven came out, Lost Judgment took place in 860 00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.639 oh Yokohama, and it's like, Okay, we're reusing the map, but. 861 00:40:56.639 --> 00:40:59.159 It's with different contacts. Smart. I think it's smart. 862 00:41:00.119 --> 00:41:03.320 Yeah, I mean I think they'll probably I'm sure they'll 863 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:06.199 use Hawaii again, But I also think I don't think 864 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.599 like the next main game would take place on Hawaii. 865 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:10.480 I think they kind of know, like that's the opportunity 866 00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:12.000 to like really bring something new. 867 00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:13.840 Jake, where do you want to take place? San Francisco? 868 00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:18.519 Yeah, if they've opened they've opened the floodgates for like 869 00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.079 non you know, Japan because I think. 870 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:25.119 It was during Summer game Fest talking to Stu about it, 871 00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:27.800 and Stu was like talking about like how they could 872 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:28.800 use San Francisco. 873 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:33.840 I mean, Chinatown would be like such an obvious. 874 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.519 That kind of on North Beach, Japantown, Japantown. 875 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.480 I mean, like there's not many Japantowns in the United 876 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:43.440 States and like officially recognized ones, and those Japanese characters, 877 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.480 how they would like interact in interpreting and almost. 878 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:49.679 Criticize or like the idea of them like making up 879 00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.960 like a fictional yakuza that is in like the San 880 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.840 Francisco like Japantown or loss. Yeah, but like imagine definitely 881 00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:57.480 not a fake. 882 00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.599 Fighting on the top of like the Salesforce tower or whatever. 883 00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:04.800 Yeah, throwing someone out the window of that. Yes, and 884 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:06.840 you can play on the fact that half the building 885 00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.719 San Francisco is sinking because of you know, like I 886 00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:11.960 don't know, there's plenty of fun. There's a lot of 887 00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.719 you know, interesting characters. There's what the bush Man that 888 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:19.000 they tried to put in uh uh watch Dogs. They 889 00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:21.559 did put it and watch it, but it was like, Okay, 890 00:42:21.639 --> 00:42:23.119 that's a funny joke, but I feel like there could 891 00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:24.119 be an entire sub story. 892 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:28.960 Yeah, yes that character, Yeah, oh that person. San Francisco 893 00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.400 is weird. So San Francisco is so weird. 894 00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:33.760 The amount of story, like side stories you can make 895 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.960 about like tech bros and like even weird hippies and 896 00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:40.920 like plays Valley or Likenshbury. 897 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.679 I feel like we're naming all these districts, though they'd 898 00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:44.519 probably only just take one. I know, it's like they 899 00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.800 would be okay, I don't know, like I just be 900 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.880 I think that there's a lot of version of San Francisco. 901 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.599 But yes they would. I would personally. 902 00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:55.480 I do you think it would be sweet to play 903 00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.400 is like see like Madrama and the Hate Ashbury. Yeah, 904 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.199 like around that could be great. 905 00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.840 I mean the Nag's head could be a whole story, 906 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.920 you know, like yeah, like it. 907 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.760 Yeah, they should hit us up and well this is 908 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.639 what you here's all the spots put this in there. 909 00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.519 Yeah, I would love that. That would be so good. 910 00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:25.440 Uh yeah, anyway, anyway, come with a better one than that. 911 00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.039 I mean, I don't have a better one. Rochester, New York. 912 00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.280 The most boring places you could possibly do anything. 913 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:37.119 I mean, it would be cool to see them go 914 00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.440 to I don't know. It's like part of me is like, well, 915 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:44.360 they could go to other places in Asia, but I 916 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:50.119 would be like nervous of that in the sense of like, uh, dude, 917 00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:56.159 like I don't care when like other countries like use America. 918 00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.320 It's like a setting because like one, I think we're 919 00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.559 so prolific that like it's not hard to understand us, 920 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:04.199 and also like you can make fun of us. Yeah, fine, 921 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.559 but like when you have when you when if you 922 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.239 had like Japan, like go to like another Asian country, 923 00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.559 you know, like say South Korea, it's like, wow, there's 924 00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:16.400 a history of Japan and South Korea, and like maybe 925 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:18.840 there I can see that being more like, oh, do 926 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.199 you guys actually like culturally understand this place in a 927 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:24.079 way that would land. So I don't know if they would, 928 00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:27.880 if they should do that, or if even they would feel. 929 00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:33.599 Comfortable doing that. In most cases, it's better for probably, 930 00:44:33.679 --> 00:44:36.480 like for I can imagine it'd be easier and better 931 00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.679 to do something that is more alien and removed from you, 932 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:41.519 removed from. 933 00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.840 Your culture in a way so or so laser focused 934 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:45.840 on because I think what makes Yakas are great is 935 00:44:45.880 --> 00:44:48.400 like they understand their culture so well and they're able 936 00:44:48.440 --> 00:44:50.400 to like lampoon it in a way that's like very 937 00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:54.760 like fun and satisfying and like you like you can 938 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.119 like even as like an outsider, you can tell like yeah, 939 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.559 you know, oh okay, you guys are you know you 940 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.440 you you're really honing in on this like specific element 941 00:45:03.480 --> 00:45:04.679 of your culture and making. 942 00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:05.719 Fun of it in a way that's fun. 943 00:45:08.159 --> 00:45:12.199 So anyway, hire us to give you the spot everything 944 00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.199 to make fun of in San Francisco and all the 945 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.400 sub stories, well all the points of interest. 946 00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.239 It'll be it'll be great. Yeah, there would be such 947 00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:21.599 a funny storyline with like tech bros like like I mean, 948 00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.159 like again, I can't like you know, imagine one of 949 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.519 the character it writes itself. It's just like you would 950 00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:29.920 you could the mini games of the apps, like I 951 00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.559 don't know, I could already see like oh yeah, there 952 00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.599 would definitely be a you know, a stock market like game, 953 00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:36.360 but you're doing it for an app that you're like 954 00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.599 I don't know, like building or doing I don't know. Yeah, 955 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.239 it's all there. You take way most to get around 956 00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.320 yeah yeah. 957 00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.760 Yeah, or you operate whatever, yes yeah, yeah exactly, I 958 00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.280 mean they already have stuff like that, exactly so it's 959 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:52.519 like that that translates so perfect. 960 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:56.199 Yeah, you manage you manage waymos. I have to deal 961 00:45:56.239 --> 00:45:58.320 with that and like people who do weird ship in 962 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.440 your cars. I mean there was a whole taxi mini 963 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:03.800 game in five exactly. 964 00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:05.360 Yeah, just bring that back. 965 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:08.320 So yeah, it's all there took away middle last night 966 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.159 listen to death upward. Who would have thought, good for you? 967 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:12.639 Thank you? 968 00:46:13.559 --> 00:46:13.719 Uh? 969 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.760 What else have we been playing that? You know? 970 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.039 There was something I played. Now I'll wait till next 971 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.000 week because I haven't finished it and I want I 972 00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.599 want to give my full it's it's Shouts of the 973 00:46:25.679 --> 00:46:26.480 damn to PreMaster. 974 00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:27.039 Mmm. 975 00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:29.639 I played half of it. I didn't get to play 976 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.840 any last week. So this week and I'm going to 977 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:33.880 finish it and I'll report back in my thoughts. 978 00:46:34.559 --> 00:46:38.480 Then. Yeah, because the game that most of you are playing, 979 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.599 I can't talk about next week, so and I haven't. Boy, 980 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:43.519 I cannot wait. 981 00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:47.239 I could probably guess what it is, but we're very 982 00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:48.280 excited to talk about it. 983 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:50.320 True fear for. 984 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:59.119 Those suffering one and two? Was there second suffering the 985 00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:01.639 ties that bind? Oh, it is the name of the 986 00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:02.159 second one. 987 00:47:03.199 --> 00:47:04.960 I thought that was the name of the the suffering, 988 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:10.960 got got more got a franchise than Shocker did. That's 989 00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.599 a shocker Damn. 990 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:15.639 I think that's a podcast. 991 00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:17.440 So it's good. I think we're gonna keep this one night. 992 00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:18.440 You Got a Baby. 993 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:25.519 Thank you so much everyone for listening. Before we go, Jake, 994 00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:28.400 let's talk about that project we've been working on. 995 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.199 Yeah, we're getting close to the finish line. For those 996 00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.960 who may have missed it, we teased it like end 997 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.639 of last year, I think, but we've been hard at 998 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:41.760 work on a uh Stalker two documentary that documents the 999 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:47.599 the evacuation that a lot of the devs went on 1000 00:47:47.880 --> 00:47:51.199 in order or after the full fledged invasion of Ukraine. 1001 00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.920 We went to Prague to interview seven developers and then 1002 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.519 we interviewed two more who are still in Kiev, uh 1003 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:04.119 and in Ukraine over Zoom and that is Finally we 1004 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:07.000 are approaching the finish line, hoping to have it out 1005 00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:09.360 before the end of the month, maybe early next month. 1006 00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:14.039 But a lot of TLC has gone into this, a 1007 00:48:14.119 --> 00:48:18.079 lot of research, a lot of preparation, a lot of editing. 1008 00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:20.920 I mean, we've tapped a lot of people, including folks 1009 00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.360 who used to work at GameSpot. Joey Ye has done 1010 00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.800 a ton of graphics for it as well, which is 1011 00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:26.920 really cool to work with. 1012 00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:28.320 Joey again also. 1013 00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.400 Incredibly talented of course, and then you know, you guys 1014 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:38.679 have helped lay that foundation. Richard and I have been 1015 00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:40.519 like hard at work editing it and like. 1016 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.559 Shout outs to Richard in particular, I feel like Richard 1017 00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:44.400 had brought this thing back on track, because this. 1018 00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:47.559 Project I feel like would have potentially died. It's funny 1019 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.760 Richard hadn't come in and like helped us finish it. 1020 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.639 Yeah, it's it's I was thinking about this and it's 1021 00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:56.239 in no way whatsoever comparative to what the team of 1022 00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.760 Starker two did, But there is something sort of ironic 1023 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.000 out how like even like that team went through so 1024 00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.960 much shit to get that game out, and then during 1025 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.639 the time of us putting this thing together, nothing comparable 1026 00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.079 in the slightest, But it just feels like we've we 1027 00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:15.079 ourselves have been through so many, so many roadblocks, and 1028 00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.960 so many roadblocks like between just resources ands and like 1029 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.199 stuff like that were like their personal yeah, you know, 1030 00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:24.800 just everything. We're just like I just need to get 1031 00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:27.079 this fucking thing out the door. And you know, of 1032 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:28.840 course there's only a few of us compared to the 1033 00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.480 four hundred four hundred people at GS. 1034 00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:34.679 About I think, yeah, I think just over four hundred. 1035 00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.320 But uh yeah, I would say, like, I'm sure a 1036 00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.000 lot of people have seen the war Games documentary that 1037 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:44.599 Xbox in the Stocker team released end of last year. Yeah, hm, 1038 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:47.519 and this feels like somewhat of a continuation of that. 1039 00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:49.119 I'd say I haven't watched it. I didn't want to 1040 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:50.639 watch it because I didn't want to kind of influence 1041 00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:52.960 how we make this documentary. 1042 00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.480 But from what I understand, a. 1043 00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:59.760 Lot of this stuff covers stuff that, like like the 1044 00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.199 x Buck documenting ends at a place and then we 1045 00:50:02.360 --> 00:50:04.440 kind of pick up from there maybe. 1046 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:05.079 A little bit. 1047 00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.039 Yeah, I watched it because I kind of wanted to 1048 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.159 just like make sure we weren't we treading the exact 1049 00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:13.679 same ground, and that that Xbox Dock very kind of 1050 00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:17.920 covers a lot of of them leaving like like the 1051 00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:21.719 actual evacuation, but it kind of ends once they then 1052 00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:22.480 get to. 1053 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.559 Prague and then it kind of skips so ours actually 1054 00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.079 talking to people who are continued and they're still in 1055 00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:32.679 Progus exactly. So like we do cover the evacuate, we 1056 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:34.920 do cover the evacuation because you know, we want to 1057 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.760 like make sure that's explained and understood. You know, like 1058 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.159 we're not gonna assume people have watched that doc, but 1059 00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.239 like it does go more in depth on like the 1060 00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:48.840 process of like resetting up their lives after and I 1061 00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.039 would say it it you know, we we maybe hone 1062 00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:57.880 in on a few people that we're some people. 1063 00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.719 There are some people that were in both, but I 1064 00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:01.920 would say like we kind of like get a little 1065 00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.360 more in depth with with some people and some of 1066 00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:08.679 their their personal stuff. So yeah, I do think I 1067 00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:10.480 think if you watch that doc, like it's still worth 1068 00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:14.079 watching ours because we do talk about more things that 1069 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:15.039 weren't covered in that one. 1070 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:18.400 Yeah, things that like didn't happen when they like like 1071 00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:22.960 there was a studio fire like that was covered in 1072 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.960 the Xbox document. Doesn't talk about that because it didn't happen. 1073 00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:26.239 Yeah. 1074 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:29.719 Yeah, that that doc, like they get to Prague, it 1075 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.679 skips time and then it ends with them like the 1076 00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.960 first time they showed it at like Games Calm, like 1077 00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:39.639 twenty twenty three. 1078 00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:40.119 Yeah. 1079 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.199 I think so, like there's like a whole year's worth 1080 00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.000 of stuff that has happened since and feelings and emotions 1081 00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:50.000 that like we've gotten to capture and you know that 1082 00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:51.159 that weren't in that thing. 1083 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:56.079 So yeah, yeah, anyway, very excited for to finally get 1084 00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:57.920 that out the door. Like I said, a lot of 1085 00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.960 people have been working very hard on that, and I 1086 00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.280 think folks will hopefully and maybe not. 1087 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.920 Enjoy it that seems like the wrong one, but maybe 1088 00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:08.480 get more context. 1089 00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.199 In terms of like how that game was developed, in 1090 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.400 the insane situation that that team was put under in 1091 00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:18.079 order to ship a game, and the legacy that the 1092 00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:22.519 potential legacy that that game has given everything that happened. 1093 00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:23.440 But I don't want to say too. 1094 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.360 Yeah, there's one thing the world needs more right now. 1095 00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:30.000 It's it's like just the opportunity to like empathize, understand 1096 00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:33.280 and understand people and like what they've been through and 1097 00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:34.639 what they're still going through. 1098 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:41.880 So yeah, anstocer To is a good game to game. 1099 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.000 So you know, if you haven't played it, you should 1100 00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:44.159 do that. 1101 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:48.280 Maybe it'll encourage you to. Anyway. Thank you so much everyone. 1102 00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:52.039 We really appreciate your continued to support on this podcast 1103 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.360 and just all the things we do here that game 1104 00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.840 spot and and all that jazz. Thank you you too 1105 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.960 for being on they get a maxim the back max 1106 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:03.360 I love you making this thing go. 1107 00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:09.679 Funk off and with that, we'll see you next time. Goodbye,