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<v Speaker 1>with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We got the

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<v Speaker 1>privilege of talking to mister Harold Benny today. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>zoologist from Illinois. He's got a very interesting story, Harold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you go ahead and take the reins,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, about the summer that I turned sixty and I

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<v Speaker 2>look at it. This would have been two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was when I actually I called it the

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<v Speaker 2>first bigfoot that I ever saw, Although I had a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of strange things that I don't talk about because

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<v Speaker 2>they are so strange that that happened before. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is down in Oklahoma, and you probably heard of Honobia.

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<v Speaker 2>The locals call it Hornaby. And some of you probably

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<v Speaker 2>have read a book by Tom pal called The Locals

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<v Speaker 2>and the Locals. He spends quite a bit of time

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<v Speaker 2>and he talks about this little town and some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that has happened down there. And I was down there

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<v Speaker 2>looking around and seeing all the things in the book

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<v Speaker 2>and everything. But the last night that we were down there,

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<v Speaker 2>down there with two friends, me and two others had

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<v Speaker 2>had gone let's say, south of town more or less,

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<v Speaker 2>and spent some time setting in the bushes and whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just I had to go northtown and get

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<v Speaker 2>into the hills they call them mountains, And we went

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<v Speaker 2>up a mountain road about ten o'clock at the night,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe ten thirty. We started up the mountain road, and

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<v Speaker 2>we had an old pickup truck, and I rode in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the pickup truck and the other two

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<v Speaker 2>just rode in front, and we went up there. It

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like forever, but when we stopped and figured it out,

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<v Speaker 2>it was about six miles and maybe seven and we

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<v Speaker 2>parked the car or the truck, and then walked up

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<v Speaker 2>a ways and we crossed the bridge or went across

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<v Speaker 2>the creek, then up a little hill, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>bad legs, so I'm never in a hurry, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't mind walking in the dark by myself. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>was going pretty slow and left the other two just

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<v Speaker 2>going up ahead. I got up to the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the hill and I had a military grade thermal, And

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<v Speaker 2>back then these thermals didn't do anything except let you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the thermals will record, and they're a lot less expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not nearest as nice as accurate. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>had this thermal, and I'd been up in this location before,

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<v Speaker 2>and as I was walking the road to the Temphry road,

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<v Speaker 2>I would stopped here and there and panned through the

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<v Speaker 2>woods with this thermal. And I hadn't gone too far

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<v Speaker 2>up this hill to the top of it, when I

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<v Speaker 2>happened to see a head in the bushes moving up

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<v Speaker 2>and down, and I just froze, didn't move, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had the thermal on this object, and I just stayed

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<v Speaker 2>there and watched it for quite a while. He would

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<v Speaker 2>just head would deck down and then it would appear

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<v Speaker 2>again above the bushes a couple of feet away, and awful.

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<v Speaker 2>Being over seventeen, I know at least the thing was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was only about maybe forty feet away from me

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<v Speaker 2>for it all. And I got a little nervous, a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit upset with this great, big thing that was

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<v Speaker 2>right there on the side of the road almost next

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I had to stop and take a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of breaths, and I thought, Okay, just had my birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>I made it to sixty. I've always wanted to see

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<v Speaker 2>something like this my whole life. And it started spending

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<v Speaker 2>more time out in the woods, and I said, heck,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to watch this. I watched it as long

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<v Speaker 2>as I could, and then the other tree I was

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<v Speaker 2>with they came back down the road at me and yelled,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked up. And when I looked up, this

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<v Speaker 2>big animal that I'd been watching and disappeared. It took

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<v Speaker 2>the chance of the opportunity to get back down the

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<v Speaker 2>bushes somewhere. So the other two came down and asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I told him what I saw, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want them, I don't think blade me. But one of them,

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<v Speaker 2>another one that had the thermal ad a thermal. She

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<v Speaker 2>looked into the woods where I'd been looking at and

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<v Speaker 2>she saw the animal also, so I had verification right there,

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<v Speaker 2>which so I know it wasn't just my imagination. And

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<v Speaker 2>if she watched it for a little bit and it

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<v Speaker 2>was leaning against the tree, it wasn't hiding anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>finally a guy away where she couldn't see it either.

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<v Speaker 2>So I watched it. I'm probably not full minute, but

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<v Speaker 2>then forty seconds forty five something like that actually, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that that was quite a while. But it

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<v Speaker 2>just stayed within a pretty small area, just going back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth and looking up and down, trying to look

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<v Speaker 2>watching me, and everybody asked me what it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>through this thermo. It was just completely bright white and

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<v Speaker 2>there was no detail ready that I could see except

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<v Speaker 2>this was big and white. We radioed and we got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple other people up there, and actually we sat

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<v Speaker 2>in the seven minute ditches for a while and just

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<v Speaker 2>hung around up there, and it was interesting. We used

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of guys that were backed up in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods there and they weren't too far away. They were camping.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were from Kentucky or Tennessee, and we

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<v Speaker 2>gave them a call on the phone or on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio because we were on the county road. This county road, though,

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<v Speaker 2>the hunters cut it over and they put gates up.

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<v Speaker 2>This is back in the hills, so there was nobody

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<v Speaker 2>stopped doing this, and the hunters were told us they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to close the gates to keep us out

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the night. We called these other guys

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<v Speaker 2>and we told them they better pack up real quick

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<v Speaker 2>because the gates were going to get locked up. An

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing that packed up. They started up their old trucks,

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<v Speaker 2>and when they did, they got howls from behind their

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<v Speaker 2>campground and we could hear them. We went that far away,

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<v Speaker 2>we could hear the howls or the grints and the

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<v Speaker 2>wood knocks. It's almost like they were communicate and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know whether whether the one side of guys

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<v Speaker 2>is that these guys here are movement, they're doing something.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of movement and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sound up there. Now, let's see, so that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been time that all happened. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>been really close to right around midnight time. I had

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<v Speaker 2>the sidings and we had the other people up there,

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<v Speaker 2>but nobody else saw anything. We had some some smells,

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<v Speaker 2>but they weren't that strong, and I wouldn't really want

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<v Speaker 2>to say that the smells were associated with anything else

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<v Speaker 2>that was right there either, And let me see. We

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<v Speaker 2>went back down to the truck and we got out

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<v Speaker 2>of the area before we got locked in. But actually

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<v Speaker 2>for that sighting, that was that's the main part, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's about what happened. Just this last fall in October,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a rise up of that siding that seven

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<v Speaker 2>almost seventeen years ago. And I did a spoke at

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<v Speaker 2>the Murphy's Boro Bigfoot Fest this year and I was

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<v Speaker 2>interviewed and one of the guys that interviewed me, he

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<v Speaker 2>wrote to this story that I've just told you. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrote it up and it was in the Illinois Country

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<v Speaker 2>Living magazine that is put out by Electric co Op.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's where I thought that you got the story.

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<v Speaker 2>But now it's not many. It might not be the

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<v Speaker 2>best story I've got, but I saw it. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>doubts about it. It felt like I could almost touch

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<v Speaker 2>it from where I was standing, and it was probably

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<v Speaker 2>it was probably as bad as close as i'd really

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<v Speaker 2>want to get to one I've been any closer I

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<v Speaker 2>had been in It's a life soon. But I can

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<v Speaker 2>see how some people get to get the jitters and

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<v Speaker 2>they get to feeling funny and they don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to think. But I consider myself to be really lucky,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the lucky few to actually see this animals,

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<v Speaker 2>see it alive and see it moving, And it was

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a dark so people were going to

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<v Speaker 2>say it was dark. You didn't really see it that well.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a pretty dog gone good. But actually that

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<v Speaker 2>about takes up. Next afternoon, I had to leave back

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<v Speaker 2>drive back here to town, and I was excited all

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<v Speaker 2>the way back. I still get excited when I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But let me see, I think that's probably

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<v Speaker 2>about all what I've got to say about that right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Harold, do you mind if I jump in and

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a few questions about that specific memory you have? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, perfect, just because it's very rare to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to talk to someone from that time period in

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<v Speaker 1>that location for the listeners that might not be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of it, can you explain what you remember of what

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<v Speaker 1>you heard about the events of the siege at hoh

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<v Speaker 1>Nubbi that happened around twenty years ago in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed to be. It was a pretty hot spot,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think there's been a lot of stuff. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been closed down. You don't have the people don't have

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<v Speaker 2>the freedom to go in and out. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I could even get up that road anymore. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you go anywhere, and the locals have seen this these

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<v Speaker 2>animals or heard these stories, and they take it as

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<v Speaker 2>just an everyday thing. But there was quite a bit activity.

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<v Speaker 2>They have none dumpsters brought in, so they had a

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<v Speaker 2>portable dump, and these animals would get out there and

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<v Speaker 2>they'd get in the dump. I guess that was pretty common.

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<v Speaker 2>And they would get into the cattle feeders. They have

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<v Speaker 2>great big cattle feeders. Well the tops would pull off

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<v Speaker 2>and they put the feed in them. They would pull

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<v Speaker 2>off the tops and get in and get the get

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<v Speaker 2>the feed out of them, and it was just really

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<v Speaker 2>real common for everybody now. But right there in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of town there used to be a little store

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a couple of cabins from rent. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a house for rent, and there was a campground

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they still have their every I think

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<v Speaker 2>they still had a festival down there, and a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of my friends knew a bunch of the the work

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<v Speaker 2>with it, but I have not been back down there

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<v Speaker 2>myself for quite a while now. There was just an

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<v Speaker 2>awful lot of activity. It seemed like all the times

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<v Speaker 2>I had, not just at that area where I was,

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<v Speaker 2>but all around the town. There was something going on

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. And there were I don't know, three

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<v Speaker 2>or four sightings around the week that I was down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I had been out. Actually I was in Arkansas the

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<v Speaker 2>week before, and then I was in Hornaby for about

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<v Speaker 2>ten days, and then all my free time was up.

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<v Speaker 2>I was still working then, and I had to get

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<v Speaker 2>back what I shared done. If I'd had any brains

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<v Speaker 2>at all and had a little bit more time, or

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<v Speaker 2>I should have made the time, I should have gone

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<v Speaker 2>back up to where we were and into the woods

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<v Speaker 2>and really checked it out real well. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>get awful excited that you just lose your common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But since then, when something's happened, I searched for footprints

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<v Speaker 2>and hair and whatever, and then see if there's anything

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<v Speaker 2>else around there. But I felt pretty lucky that I

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<v Speaker 2>had another person there to cite the same animals, so

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. But and that brings up something else. Sighting

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<v Speaker 2>of that animal by just about anybody is so unbelievable

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<v Speaker 2>that it probably cut me three or four months before

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<v Speaker 2>I really believed that I'd seen it, and I kept

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<v Speaker 2>telling myself. Finally I know, I saw it, was right there.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't my imagination, and I actually saw this animal.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've had a couple of other times, a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of other sightings where one of them took me fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>years to finally admit in my own mind that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it, and another one I really haven't yet that

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it. I don't crust my own mind. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think. I'm not sure if what in my own

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<v Speaker 2>mind crying too hard somebody. Some people will try so

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<v Speaker 2>hard and everything they see or everything they hear is

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<v Speaker 2>a bigfoot, and they don't stop and consider what's actually

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<v Speaker 2>going on or what could be causing what they're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>or what they're looking at, And the first thing that

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<v Speaker 2>pops in their mind is bigfoot. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of animals in the woods, and some of them are

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<v Speaker 2>pretty fantastic, the things they can do and think, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to stop and consider everything else, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't figure anything that could be causing what you're seeing,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe it might be a big foot. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I try to look at it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if I answer your question or not. Went around around there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think those are you definitely need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>discerning mind, is what I'm picking up. But going back

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<v Speaker 1>to Hoe numb you a little bit. So, you said

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<v Speaker 1>you went to that area because of some events that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was talked about in Tom Powell's book. When

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<v Speaker 1>you went to that area to check things out for yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like did you talk to anyone in the

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<v Speaker 2>Not especially the events from that book.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they went past there was one cabin where there

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<v Speaker 3>was an awful lot of problems and it was set

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<v Speaker 3>real close to the main road that came into there

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<v Speaker 3>from the west, and they were had bigfoot in and

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<v Speaker 3>around and stealing deer out of the fleezure. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think one of the things that they had done they

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<v Speaker 3>had for some reason planted peas around there in the

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<v Speaker 3>garden or in the yard, and the deer came in

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<v Speaker 3>and like the peas.

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<v Speaker 2>The deers were eating the peas, and then they were

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<v Speaker 2>actually shooting at the deer and the bigfoot. See, they

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<v Speaker 2>thought the bigfoot learned that when they heard the shooting

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<v Speaker 2>at the deer, that meant that they were deer and

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<v Speaker 2>feeding on the pieves in the yard. And they'd come

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<v Speaker 2>into the house and then into the area then and

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<v Speaker 2>actually was a real small area, and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>real small cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>Big for society. Who would be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess that they even got into the figured

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<v Speaker 2>out how to get into the freezers. But I thought

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<v Speaker 2>that that was really interesting. They associated the gunfire with food,

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<v Speaker 2>so it wasn't chasing them away, it was actually drawing

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<v Speaker 2>them in. Anyway. There was a cabin across the other

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<v Speaker 2>way where they had some things. I'll tell you one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one night several people had the thermals and

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<v Speaker 2>the one guy called on the radio one night he

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<v Speaker 2>said he had a hot one. He said there was

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<v Speaker 2>a big win. He said it was up this tree

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<v Speaker 2>back by this other cabin that was to the south

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<v Speaker 2>of where we were. And so we hawked through it

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<v Speaker 2>over there, and it was hard because there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of rough ground in this one area. We got

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<v Speaker 2>over there. What we found out is that he was

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<v Speaker 2>sitting back in there and he was looking up a

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<v Speaker 2>power pole into a transformer, and he was picking up

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<v Speaker 2>all the heat off the transformer, and he thought we

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<v Speaker 2>had a big foot up a pole. So that's just

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that can happen. I'm mistaken, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody jumped to it and figured they had something up there,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't. They were just a transformer.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a great example about you. You have people

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<v Speaker 1>that are probably extremely amped up about those events you

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about. That is the siege at ho Nubby

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<v Speaker 1>that people had probably heard about before. That's what you

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<v Speaker 1>were referring to with the big Foot trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the deer out of the refrigerators that were on the

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<v Speaker 1>cabin porch. I believe is how the story goes. But

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember I think there were some investigators that

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<v Speaker 1>were sent to check it out, and do you remember

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to the Bigfoot at the end. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the whole story exists in any one location.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had it to be, and this Tom pouts

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<v Speaker 2>will it would be as much as anything beginning of what.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't reviewed it or looked at it. I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how how it ended up. How it is

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<v Speaker 2>much later, but I think that they did drive them off.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I heard on a rumor or not that

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<v Speaker 2>a truck driver had seen one of the bigfoots that

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<v Speaker 2>had been shot trying to make it back up the

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<v Speaker 2>woods and straight south from there was a small hill

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<v Speaker 2>and again they call it a mountain. But I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I'll finally happened there after that. I

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<v Speaker 2>suld have probably looked it up and reviewed that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just been a long time since I've read that. And

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<v Speaker 2>like I said, I've been seventeen years since this all

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<v Speaker 2>happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Harold, Who were the individuals that you were with? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember the individuals you were with when you were

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<v Speaker 1>out in the woods and you saw that head bobbing

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<v Speaker 1>up and down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I don't really use name one. The one

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<v Speaker 2>girl that saw it. Also, she's passed away with cancer. Okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>she was a girl from She was a girl from Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>real smart gall And then there's guy from Texas and

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<v Speaker 2>he still works in the area, and he supposedly had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of sightings there. And I won't use his

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<v Speaker 2>name either, because I don't want to draw any heat

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<v Speaker 2>down on them. I don't use names too often. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even like to people say Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but and that really one reason is that I

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<v Speaker 2>get as much information and as I get, even right

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<v Speaker 2>here in Illinois, because people that I were going to

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<v Speaker 2>work with before they know I'm not gonna that I

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<v Speaker 2>might want to tell I'm not want to tell the story,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not going to say who they were, are

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<v Speaker 2>exactly where they were, because we don't need we don't

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<v Speaker 2>need people running through their fields and the people bothered them.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of lay away from that, and that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe takes away from some of some people believe in

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<v Speaker 2>some of the stories. But then that's that's too bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have the stories at all if I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do it that way, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, and I agree that's I think that's the right

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<v Speaker 1>way to do it. You need to be respectful of

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<v Speaker 1>people's privacy. And I've had plenty of stories where the

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<v Speaker 1>person it gets out they had a big foot on

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<v Speaker 1>their property and that it's reporters and reporters it's back

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventies, But yeah, you have to be careful

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes what info you get out. But thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the siege at O Nabi and what you

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<v Speaker 1>experienced after that time for a bit there, Harold, do

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<v Speaker 1>you mind if we take a little of a step back,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking before the show that you've been

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<v Speaker 1>into Bigfoot for an extremely long time, and do you

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<v Speaker 1>mind if we take it all the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning and share what you remember from the very

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<v Speaker 1>early days and then go from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I was born in forty seven, so I've been around

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. I hope to be around why yet,

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<v Speaker 2>But before I was ten, maybe by the time I

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<v Speaker 2>was ad, I can remember my dad used to bring

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<v Speaker 2>home a newspaper, clippings, magazine clippings, things like that. They

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<v Speaker 2>would talk about somebody somewhere all this caveman or somebody

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere saw this ape or whatever. They didn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>name for yet, and of course there's been stories going

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<v Speaker 2>back to I think the seventeen hundreds. But he would

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<v Speaker 2>bring stuff like that home, and he was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>smart guy. He worked as he didn't have a degree,

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<v Speaker 2>but worked as a chemist, and he would just always

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<v Speaker 2>tell me then all this, this is true. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about this. This is really what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>But keep an open mind, because if if, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't keep an open mind, you're never going to learn anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I was, so I was brought up that way,

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<v Speaker 2>keep an open mind. And so he would, I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>if we threw out Miami triality, he would bring stuff

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<v Speaker 2>home like that. And then I finally finally forgot about

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<v Speaker 2>it when I got a bit older and got through

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<v Speaker 2>high school and got through college, and oh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure how well I was, and I finally realized that, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>there's well the Internet and everything. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people gathering a lot of information. And I figured I

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<v Speaker 2>would just start looking and seeing what was out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I found hundreds and hundreds of books, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I got back into it. Then there were when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit older, and like a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up getting divorced and then I went paralyzed.

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<v Speaker 2>And I recovered from that, and I started and started

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<v Speaker 2>taking some trips and talking to some people and build

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<v Speaker 2>up a heck of a library. And this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to learn anything, or research anything or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to read everything that's out there and find

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<v Speaker 2>out what's been done and what's been done before you

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<v Speaker 2>start munching around yourself, because there's no need to repeat

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<v Speaker 2>everything that's been done. And I learned fight a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I got hooked up for a few years

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<v Speaker 2>with a BFRO. I was investigator for a few years them,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I started leading some of my own small

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<v Speaker 2>groups and things in Illinois here and the things just

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<v Speaker 2>build up from there. Let me say, but anyway, I've

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<v Speaker 2>I've had my mind on whether or not this animal

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<v Speaker 2>exists for a long time. And my dad passed away

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety nine, and that sighting was about two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and seven, that sighting I've told you about. And I'd

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<v Speaker 2>just give anything if he was still around, and I

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<v Speaker 2>could go over and tell him about the things I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen and the things that I know I've seen, and

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<v Speaker 2>just to let him just to let him know that

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<v Speaker 2>there are things out there. But I think he'd really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy he'd really enjoy finding out. And I found that

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, I've had quite a few friends, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to separate out my good friends. I

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<v Speaker 2>tell them some of these stories to say I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it myself, and my good friends would say that if

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<v Speaker 2>you saw it, I believe it. And I taught school

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<v Speaker 2>for about five six years too, And now that was

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<v Speaker 2>before I started doing too much of this stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>I've had ex students who they tell me the same thing,

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00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 2>get in touch with me and and they said, I

423
00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:01.519
<v Speaker 2>always worrying about that animal. You actually saw it. That's yeah,

424
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I actually saw it and I know it's there. And

425
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:06.960
<v Speaker 2>they said, and I tell them, I said, if you

426
00:24:07.000 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 2>want to go out me sometime, I could take you

427
00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:11.160
<v Speaker 2>if you want to go. And I said, no, if

428
00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:12.759
<v Speaker 2>you say it's there, I don't really want to go.

429
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.799
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people are interested that they don't

430
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:19.240
<v Speaker 2>want to go out at night and set in the

431
00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:23.519
<v Speaker 2>field by themselves. And I didn't understand that I answered

432
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<v Speaker 2>that question and not.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Either Rich I would say, you did. We talked earlier

434
00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:31.319
<v Speaker 1>that you are you consider you went to school for

435
00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>being a zoologist. I'm very curious, so your viewpoint as

436
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:39.039
<v Speaker 1>a zoologist. How does a zoologist look at the creature

437
00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>called bigfoot.

438
00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:42.559
<v Speaker 2>I'd say most of them just think it's a bunch

439
00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>of malarkey. Now i've talked to them just recently from

440
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>around the country that they're in the BFRO and there's

441
00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:54.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that just don't know. And if

442
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't seen it, I'm going to say more than once,

443
00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:03.920
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't. I couldn't be with myself. But there's something

444
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.160
<v Speaker 2>out there doesn't make any sense. There's a lot of

445
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:11.160
<v Speaker 2>things mostly that don't make any sense about how these

446
00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 2>animals has lived and reproduced and there seems to be

447
00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:20.400
<v Speaker 2>an awful lot of them in certain areas and just biologically,

448
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 2>just things just don't make sense. But we're dealing with

449
00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 2>something here we don't know. We don't know what it is. Really,

450
00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't know where it came from, and there's a

451
00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>lot of theories. We don't know exactly what it is.

452
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:40.799
<v Speaker 2>And there's no experts on this animal. And I know

453
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:43.640
<v Speaker 2>there's some people that think they are, but you can't

454
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:46.680
<v Speaker 2>be an expert on an animal that's not even hasn't

455
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:51.079
<v Speaker 2>been proven to exist. It's just everybody's got ideas and

456
00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.759
<v Speaker 2>they passed the ideas around and it's just hard to

457
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:57.839
<v Speaker 2>come up with anything. So any in chart has to

458
00:25:57.839 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>say that most of those wilds aren't going to believe

459
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:05.279
<v Speaker 2>in it. And I think even eventually they come up

460
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 2>with a with a good body, no matter where they

461
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>find it or where they put it, They're still not

462
00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>going to believe it. It's going to be one of

463
00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>one of those things, like everything is today, you can't

464
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>believe anything you hear or see. It seems, but I

465
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>just tell myself, I saw it. I know I saw it.

466
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I have to believe it. But I loved you before

467
00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:28.599
<v Speaker 2>I pass away. I love to figure out how it

468
00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 2>does exist, and those are the things that it does.

469
00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know. I just don't know. It's a

470
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>heck of a good mystery.

471
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I would wager to say it's one of one of

472
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the best. And I hope before the end of my

473
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>time that there's some sort of definite answer that's finally

474
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>able to be Maybe there's a type specimen that's able

475
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>to be taken, or I don't know, whatever it would take.

476
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:56.599
<v Speaker 1>You all, just what do you think it would take

477
00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>for this to finally be proven? Would it take DNA specimen?

478
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>It's like you said, is they take a type specimen.

479
00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>There've been all this DNA work that different people talk about,

480
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.319
<v Speaker 2>but the DNA works is not worth too much because

481
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:16.880
<v Speaker 2>we use different samples that came from this area and

482
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>that area. This animal, not animal it's all hearsay. It's

483
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:24.319
<v Speaker 2>all heresay. Where the samples came from. You're going to

484
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 2>have to have a type specimen. You're going to take

485
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>the samples off the type specimen and run them and

486
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>find out what it actually is. That's one of the

487
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:36.279
<v Speaker 2>things that really drives me crazy. Just because they've run

488
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.559
<v Speaker 2>the DNA test, If you don't know where the samples

489
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>came from, you haven't got anything. And I know a

490
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>lot of people that's going to upset a lot of

491
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:47.200
<v Speaker 2>people too, But that's what's how it is. We've got

492
00:27:47.200 --> 00:27:49.720
<v Speaker 2>to use science, and then they need to use science

493
00:27:49.720 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>and scientific methods to get this thing figured out. But

494
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>if it even can be figured out, I don't know.

495
00:27:57.519 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot. Like I said, I've been looking into

496
00:27:59.920 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>it a long time now, and about the best we

497
00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:04.759
<v Speaker 2>can do is hope to see it now and then.

498
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:06.839
<v Speaker 2>But until we have you on, until we have a

499
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.839
<v Speaker 2>type specimen of the type of animal to actually run

500
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:14.359
<v Speaker 2>test on, it's just not gonna nothing's going to count.

501
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:17.279
<v Speaker 2>I guess the way to put it. Sure, so you

502
00:28:17.359 --> 00:28:19.960
<v Speaker 2>know where it's coming from, it doesn't mean anything.

503
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Harold reminded me, were you actively your relation to Bigfoot research.

504
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:29.039
<v Speaker 1>What was it in the nineteen seventies? Was it existent

505
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:29.559
<v Speaker 1>at all?

506
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of the nineteen seventies when I mentioned

507
00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the Bigfoot festival down in southern Illinois that happened fifty

508
00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>fifty one years ago today, and I guess it got

509
00:28:43.640 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of it got a lot of advertisement, publication

510
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>around the world and stuff. But I was working as

511
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 2>a camis two miles from where I'm said today, and

512
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.119
<v Speaker 2>all through all that I didn't even hear about it.

513
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know about at it, okay, but about

514
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:04.920
<v Speaker 2>through the seventies and whatever. Actually, I was still teaching,

515
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 2>doing some things, trying to raise a family, and I

516
00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>had my head a lot of other places. But I've

517
00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:15.119
<v Speaker 2>just was just taking up some things here and there.

518
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>And there's timing in a guy's life that he's got

519
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to be raising the family and worrying about that. And

520
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess I had where I had my head.

521
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Makes sense, totally get it. So we talked earlier about

522
00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>you've spent a lot of time researching Bigfoot in Illinois,

523
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>which is where you're based out of. And I've been

524
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:37.200
<v Speaker 1>able to talk to a few people from Illinois I've

525
00:29:37.200 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>talked to. There's definitely some things going on northeast of

526
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Peoria in the northern part of the state. There's the

527
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Shawnee area down in the south part of the state,

528
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and you've got a little Egypt and all that good

529
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff down there. But what has your research been like

530
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>in the state over the years?

531
00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Okay, when I go, I think it's much time in

532
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>as Shawnee as I can. And basically in Illinois, if

533
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 2>you're not in the Shawnee, you're someplace where you probably

534
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 2>haven't got permission to be That's a big thing. If

535
00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:13.279
<v Speaker 2>you get out of park ground, the public ground in Illinois,

536
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:16.319
<v Speaker 2>you just haven't got permission to be there. So I

537
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of time in the murphy Boro area

538
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.839
<v Speaker 2>on that side of the state and the south about

539
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:27.880
<v Speaker 2>as far as you can drive down through down to

540
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Jonesborough and even further. And then I go over to

541
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 2>Harrisburg and south from Harrisburg, and I've got a little

542
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>private park down there that I use. It's Williams Hill Pass.

543
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I use that a lot.

544
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.319
<v Speaker 1>Big for society will be right back after these messages.

545
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.960
<v Speaker 2>And always have something really strange and really something really

546
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 2>stands out every time I go down there. And sometimes

547
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>an awful lot of stuff happens down there. A lot

548
00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>of stuff happens at Murphysboro. I cannot sometimes decide when

549
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 2>I have a few days where I want to go,

550
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.920
<v Speaker 2>because both those areas are good. And the thing is

551
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of ground down there that you can

552
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 2>you can get on. Now. I've brought ten, fifteen, twenty

553
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>BFR investigators right up here to Montgomery County, to Hillsboro

554
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and try to do some things up here too, But

555
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't keep them off the private ground. I'll have ground,

556
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>but I have permission to use. But I don't know.

557
00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they're just not used to keep the people being

558
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 2>protected whether they're up their ground. You just you've got

559
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 2>to creet these farmers nice. They've got to lunch. Maybe

560
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>sometimes you got to shoot a few coyotes to get

561
00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:12.440
<v Speaker 2>permission to get on there and do anything. Except if

562
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.359
<v Speaker 2>they think they've got something, they'll call you and ask

563
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 2>me to come down and look. But they're the big

564
00:32:19.279 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>thing is who owns the ground and do I have

565
00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>permission to get on it? And like I say, I'm

566
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>in Hillsboro and I have a lot of sightings day's out,

567
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 2>an awful lot of them, which is funny, And do

568
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:39.599
<v Speaker 2>all that go back maybe thirty five years all around

569
00:32:39.599 --> 00:32:41.759
<v Speaker 2>this town. From where I'm sitting right now, I could

570
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:45.799
<v Speaker 2>go six seven miles north or south and be in

571
00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>areas where there's been three or four sidings. I could

572
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:52.319
<v Speaker 2>go east and west and not quite as many sightings.

573
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>The thing about Hillsborough here is I think that makes

574
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 2>it so good. We've got the Shoal Creek that's called

575
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>and it's three branch creek, and hill roll sets at

576
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the top of the branches between the east branch and

577
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the middle fork. The middle branch and then Lynchfield is

578
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 2>eight miles to the west, and there's another branch with

579
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.680
<v Speaker 2>its sharper and it joins into the middle branch after

580
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 2>just maybe ten miles. The thing with me, we've got

581
00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>again being it's all privately on ground, but we've got

582
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>water and lots of food, and with these three creek branches,

583
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's really it's just ideal for something like this.

584
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>And I guess I'm lucky that I was raised and

585
00:33:44.200 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 2>brought up here and I've still got a few living

586
00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 2>relatives and I know a lot of people, and I

587
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 2>can get on this ground and people help me and

588
00:33:54.119 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 2>people will cooperate with me, and the people that don't

589
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:01.519
<v Speaker 2>even know me know of me, and with happens. I

590
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>get telephone calls and for I don't use any computer

591
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>communication of any sort or whatever really anymore, and I

592
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:15.559
<v Speaker 2>just don't. I just don't get involved with that. I

593
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 2>just use regular old telephones and business cards. And I'm

594
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:25.119
<v Speaker 2>really surprised that the number of people that do get

595
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>a hold of me. And a lot of people, well,

596
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:30.800
<v Speaker 2>there's two things. A lot of people I want to

597
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:33.480
<v Speaker 2>know if they've got something going on in their property

598
00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and think, man, there's something scrange out here, and they

599
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:39.679
<v Speaker 2>call me and I go out and I try to

600
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 2>look inside what I think from what I can see,

601
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>if they have got something that strange on their property.

602
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.800
<v Speaker 2>And then there's people that don't really want you on

603
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the property, but they've been scared of something. They say

604
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>something's not right in the woods, so I try to

605
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.679
<v Speaker 2>help them. Then it's because maybe the biggest thing, if

606
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 2>they've seen something or had something going on, they're afraid

607
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 2>to say it, to tell anybody. I've had guys that

608
00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:12.800
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't even tell their wives that they've seen something. But

609
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>if they call me time, they call me they know that.

610
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Like we already said, I'm not going to be giving

611
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>up their name or where they live, or their property

612
00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>or what they've seen so they can be identified. And

613
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 2>between those two things, I think that makes a lot

614
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>of difference. But down southern Illinois, you've got an awful

615
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of an awful lot of ground, but it's in

616
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 2>the Shawnee. It's botty. You have to be careful. But

617
00:35:40.039 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. I respect everybody's ground, everybody's property, and

618
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:48.119
<v Speaker 2>if I'm with people, I expect them and I do

619
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>one people, I say, don't cross those senses and bother anything.

620
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Take care of this place just like it you want it.

621
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>And if they do that, we're fine. But I have

622
00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:01.880
<v Speaker 2>hal had and people get in trouble because they just

623
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 2>don't think they have to worry about getting on anybody

624
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 2>else's property. But anyway, that's a big difference between between

625
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:13.199
<v Speaker 2>north and south available property over the years.

626
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Did you ever do any research up in Iowa? Just curious.

627
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I've been to Iowa a couple of times. I had

628
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a friend that I can't even think where he is now,

629
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>but I haven't been there for years now, and I've

630
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>gone up there to a couple of park areas. I'd

631
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>have to get out the map and see it and

632
00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 2>into some old notes to see where I even was now.

633
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 2>But I have cast one or two prints in Iowa

634
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>in one of the park I remember that. But one

635
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:45.559
<v Speaker 2>of the guys that I used to go up with,

636
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>he was kind of, everything's a big foot, sure, and

637
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I'm my Actually the other way. There may

638
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 2>be something there, but it probably not a big foot.

639
00:36:55.280 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of animals in the woods of all

640
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 2>sizes and shape. And of course I hunt and foot

641
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 2>and a hut and ski and about any outdoor sport

642
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>you can do. And so I'll be seventy seven in

643
00:37:07.639 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 2>a couple of months. I felt my life doing all

644
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, tiled hunting and just about everything.

645
00:37:16.159 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>So I've been in the woods a lot and seen

646
00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot and people, a lot of people in some

647
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.599
<v Speaker 2>of the bigfoot organizations. So if you're if you're a

648
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 2>hunter or you look like a hunter in the woods,

649
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>you're not going to see anything because you're going to

650
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>scare it all off. And I tell them, if you're

651
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 2>a hunter or a real outdoors money, you know what's

652
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 2>in the outdoors, and you don't jump in every single

653
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.800
<v Speaker 2>thing and say it's a big foot and that's that.

654
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 2>That is a difference. And you know what you're what,

655
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:55.599
<v Speaker 2>you're looking at, what's around. It's the things that you

656
00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know that you can't figure out that really spook you.

657
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 2>That thing. I watched it forty feet away from me

658
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.440
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of life. That kind of spoofed me.

659
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.039
<v Speaker 1>If you ever get the chance to look through your

660
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 1>notes and you happen to find where you cast those

661
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.760
<v Speaker 1>tracks at in the wherever it was in Iowa, I'd

662
00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>be curious to know. I'm from just outside of central

663
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.599
<v Speaker 1>Iowa myself to the west, so trying to find all

664
00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the historical info about what's happened in the state.

665
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>But I think I was more more northern. It's marked

666
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.519
<v Speaker 2>on it's at least marked on a map or something somewhere.

667
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>And I used to a lot of times keep a

668
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 2>notebook for almost every trip. I took like a three

669
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:46.239
<v Speaker 2>leaf book. And that's when I was making those trips.

670
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I had, I was sick, I had I went through

671
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>a period where I had bad pancreage infections, and I

672
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:56.480
<v Speaker 2>had I had three times three types of cancer. Oh wow,

673
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.800
<v Speaker 2>And so I've been really lucky and the knock on

674
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 2>what I need to go in for another cancer test

675
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:06.559
<v Speaker 2>here real soon, and I hate to do it, sure

676
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.239
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to find anymore. But yeah, that

677
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:11.960
<v Speaker 2>was I was. I remember the last time I went

678
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 2>to Iowa. I was sick. But I'm pretty sure I

679
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 2>know I was with north of Cedar Rapids.

680
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the really squatchy area up there.

681
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, when you get up in there. I was

682
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Martha there and maybe I was a little bit west

683
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:32.639
<v Speaker 2>of there, but yeah, if I run across it, I'll

684
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>do that. Now. I have got one of these days

685
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.079
<v Speaker 2>I need to get with you. I've got another story

686
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that I don't talk about. It happened before this one

687
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about tonight. It more or less gets

688
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you into paranormal bigfoot sure, which being a scientist, I've

689
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.360
<v Speaker 2>always tried to stay away from that. But what I've

690
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 2>learned is overall the years to say, you really can't

691
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 2>stay away from it. I don't pay that much attention

692
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of the really strange things. But when

693
00:40:11.480 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>I was with the bf R O see BFRO has

694
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>a special file. If somebody mentions in their bigfoot story

695
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:24.119
<v Speaker 2>get into a paranormal type things or says where they

696
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>got out of a spaceship or something weird. We've got

697
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a file, but we just put them in so there's

698
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>there should be all saved, but it's full of really

699
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 2>weird stuff. And I gave you a name one day

700
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 2>we were talking, Carter Burchard. Did you ever get a

701
00:40:40.199 --> 00:40:40.719
<v Speaker 2>hold of him?

702
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:44.119
<v Speaker 1>He's on the list of people I know. He's got

703
00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:48.119
<v Speaker 1>multiple books that are supposed to be very good reads.

704
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>But he is yeah to talk to yeah, and.

705
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:55.840
<v Speaker 2>He's writing another one right now. And he started BFRO.

706
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I was already with him for a while, but he

707
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:01.840
<v Speaker 2>started with him, and he was one of the guys

708
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.719
<v Speaker 2>that would come up here to Illinois and do some things.

709
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 2>And we haven't been together for a little bit, but

710
00:41:07.679 --> 00:41:12.280
<v Speaker 2>he's had so much I don't know what to call it. Paranormal.

711
00:41:12.360 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I've just called for so much stuff that he's that's

712
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>where he started spending time. Instead of just throwing him out,

713
00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.159
<v Speaker 2>he tried to going more and more into this stuff,

714
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and that's where all his books have pretty much come from.

715
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess the book that he's finishing up right now,

716
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 2>it's basically about habituations, but the others, and actually the

717
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 2>others he wrote three books, but he wrote but one

718
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>of them that he wrote, he went back into it

719
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>and added a bunch of stuff. So there's a new

720
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 2>volume under the same book. But yeah, he lives all

721
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 2>by Kansas City, and you get ahold of get a

722
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 2>hold of him a tongue where he got his name,

723
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>and he's he does a lot of he does a

724
00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of podcasts and he's not, like you said, some

725
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>good books and stuff. So now I got off of

726
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:05.920
<v Speaker 2>whatever I was talking about. Where was I?

727
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>It feels like a few times during the interviews so far,

728
00:42:10.199 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 1>it feels like there's something that you've experienced that you

729
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 1>want to share, but you're very I don't know if

730
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to share it, but it feels like you

731
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 1>want to share something.

732
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.719
<v Speaker 2>That other story that I just mentioned that happened down

733
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 2>in Mina, Arkansas, and ten days before that one I

734
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about. But I don't know how long it would

735
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 2>really take for me to tell that story. I've only

736
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>really told it once, and it's at least it'll be

737
00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>seventeen years ago too. You have only told it once

738
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and I put it you say you found this story

739
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:52.760
<v Speaker 2>on Facebook. It's on Facebook also, and I told it

740
00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 2>even a couple of my friends. I said, I'm having

741
00:42:56.800 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 2>trouble leaving that story. I said, that's why I never

742
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.039
<v Speaker 2>told you anybody were all these years because strange. And

743
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you want to do it another time.

744
00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Or it's up to you. But I do have the

745
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.360
<v Speaker 1>time now and it might be one of the things

746
00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>where we're both on the same call now and if

747
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 1>you've got a few minutes, but up to you. I

748
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 1>want to respect your time, of course.

749
00:43:20.400 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even know what time is. It's nine thirty,

750
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>is it okay?

751
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:25.159
<v Speaker 1>About nine thirty?

752
00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 2>And you usually run the ten, don't you.

753
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Give or take? But I would love to be able

754
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 1>to have you share your story. If you're cool with that.

755
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's try it. Like I said, it's even with

756
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:41.599
<v Speaker 2>some of my friends. It may just have trouble with it.

757
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 2>But we're getting into the paranormal stuff here.

758
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no judgment here, Harold. So you feel with telling it?

759
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, I love like a couple of big too,

760
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 2>a guy making fun of flying saucers or anything. Nothing

761
00:43:56.159 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>worse and big for a guy making fun of each other.

762
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 2>This was I think it was of Mina and of

763
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>course act just the hopskiff and a jump from where

764
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.519
<v Speaker 2>I was in Oklahoma. I started out at Mina, me

765
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:13.280
<v Speaker 2>and some other people and the stranger's dog. One deal.

766
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Didn't really have any plan or whatever. But one of

767
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the guys were in Walmart and most of us were

768
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:23.960
<v Speaker 2>just sitting in the parking lot. And one of the

769
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.199
<v Speaker 2>guys went in to get something in Walmart at Mina

770
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:31.320
<v Speaker 2>and ran into this gal there was talking Bigfoot. So

771
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.559
<v Speaker 2>we got hooked up with her. And she had a

772
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 2>little bitty place down I think it had to be south,

773
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 2>tucked back in there at the base of the mountain,

774
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.599
<v Speaker 2>and she said she even had there was an old

775
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.039
<v Speaker 2>school bus in the woods, and the Bigfoot a lot

776
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 2>of the time stayed in the school bus for show

777
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 2>in the winter.

778
00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, big for SOCIETYHO would be right back after

779
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:57.760
<v Speaker 1>these messages.

780
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, This one night, men and a guy from Kentucky

781
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 2>and a woman from north then northwest of Kansas City.

782
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>He had a van, and we're all old. They're both

783
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 2>older than me. I was about sixty then, and we

784
00:45:33.079 --> 00:45:37.039
<v Speaker 2>went down by her place back in the woods, and

785
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 2>this was the darkest place I think I ever saw,

786
00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:45.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever was at and maybe it wasn't that dark,

787
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:48.519
<v Speaker 2>it was close to it. This place was dark. So

788
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 2>we went down the road, passed her place, and we

789
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>pulled off and took the van, took it back in

790
00:45:55.039 --> 00:46:00.199
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, and then me and other the older guy,

791
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.119
<v Speaker 2>we got out, and she says, I don't really feel

792
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 2>good about getting out here. I think, oh, lock the

793
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 2>doors of the van here, and I'll stay in the

794
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.320
<v Speaker 2>van and wait for you guys. And so that's what

795
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>we did, me and him. We walked back down the

796
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>road the direction we'd come from, somewhere between that a

797
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 2>quarter and a half. We went too far down, but

798
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:24.960
<v Speaker 2>we walked down and we were in this gavel inviters down.

799
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 2>We were in her driveway and the man, it was dark,

800
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and we weren't there too long, and this horrendous stream

801
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>come from the mountains just off the road to our belbow.

802
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.320
<v Speaker 2>It would have still been to our south, and it

803
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 2>wasn't too far away, but it was so loud and

804
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 2>so scary. I've still never heard anything like it in

805
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the woods or whatever. This was an awful screen. We

806
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:54.639
<v Speaker 2>both we backed up maybe twenty feet into her driveway

807
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 2>to get away. Because you seen boy something was going

808
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.480
<v Speaker 2>to pop out of the woods and it was going

809
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 2>to be awful. So we stood there as long as

810
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:06.079
<v Speaker 2>we could. And I'm looking down the road back towards

811
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 2>the van and I can I'm far and afway, I

812
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>can't see the van, and it's dark. I see this great,

813
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:15.119
<v Speaker 2>big white thing across the ditch, come out of the

814
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 2>woods on the mountain side. And he gets in the

815
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:22.320
<v Speaker 2>road and he starts walking towards us. Like I said,

816
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:26.000
<v Speaker 2>we're a little bit back off of it, though, And

817
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 2>I tell this this other friend mine uses. His name

818
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 2>was war. I don't even know. I don't think he's

819
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:33.719
<v Speaker 2>alive anymore. I said, hey, that's going to almost run

820
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 2>into us. It's coming straight at us. And he says,

821
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>what I said. It's big and white and it looks

822
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.679
<v Speaker 2>like a big foot to me. And he says, I

823
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:48.000
<v Speaker 2>don't see nothing. He said, you're imagining. And I said, arty,

824
00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.239
<v Speaker 2>it's coming right at us. And this was scary from

825
00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:54.639
<v Speaker 2>my point of view. I'm watching this and what do

826
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:57.159
<v Speaker 2>we do? So we backed up a little bit more

827
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 2>and before it got to us. I'm in a way

828
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>about this thing coming at us. Before it got to us,

829
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>it turned jumped back across the ditch and started walking

830
00:48:08.920 --> 00:48:12.039
<v Speaker 2>up the mountain and I say, oh man, and he

831
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.800
<v Speaker 2>still didn't see it. He finally convinced me that I

832
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 2>was half crazy and that there was nothing there. But

833
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:22.360
<v Speaker 2>back then I still had pretty good eyesight and pretty

834
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 2>good hearing, and he was. He was blinding so bad,

835
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.679
<v Speaker 2>and death too, So I don't know. Anyway, we stayed

836
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:34.239
<v Speaker 2>down there quite a while, and we finally walked back

837
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to the van, and every where really gets crazy. I

838
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.880
<v Speaker 2>was excited about seeing this thing, and I tell the

839
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 2>gualve been sitting in this van, start to tell her

840
00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:48.800
<v Speaker 2>about what I saw, and she jumps in. She says,

841
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.119
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you what I saw.

842
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:56.840
<v Speaker 2>He said. I'm sitting here in the van, in the

843
00:48:56.880 --> 00:49:01.199
<v Speaker 2>back seat, and all of a sudden, its white bigfoot

844
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.480
<v Speaker 2>materialized or appeared, setting in the front seat. It was

845
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 2>setting there, and I said, look out the window, and

846
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:11.679
<v Speaker 2>there was a little bitty one and it's white also,

847
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's running around outside of the vans. And here's

848
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 2>where you think about the whole thing. It really gets funny.

849
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.039
<v Speaker 2>I hadn't told her my story about I saw a

850
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 2>white one down there. I saw big white one too. Anyway,

851
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 2>we started making fun of her, but he made foot

852
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 2>guys making fun of each other, and she got upset,

853
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 2>really got upset, and we quit and I forgot about it.

854
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>This guy was good, and she's straight. She wasn't drinking,

855
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:44.400
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't on drugs. But she saw this thing materialized

856
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 2>right in front of her and sat there for a while,

857
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:51.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of looked at her, and then it just disappeared.

858
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 2>And I wasn't making fun of her, wasn't really heavy

859
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. And so she's a real nice gal and

860
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.719
<v Speaker 2>I like her, and we were actually sitting there making

861
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 2>fun of each other and what we saw. And then

862
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:10.000
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple other guys around and they heard

863
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.000
<v Speaker 2>about what I saw this and that the other night,

864
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.360
<v Speaker 2>and I did, and I denied it. I didn't rest

865
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of the time I was around anybody. I said, now,

866
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>if I had seen that, I just well, Walt says,

867
00:50:20.519 --> 00:50:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just seeing something else. And these guys I was

868
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:25.960
<v Speaker 2>telling them this too. They said, if you say you

869
00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 2>saw something, and Walt said, you didn't, we'll leave you

870
00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:31.320
<v Speaker 2>for the big walk because we think you could have. Well,

871
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 2>like I said, I was still a little bit younger,

872
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:37.159
<v Speaker 2>still could see and still could hear anyway. Bluffed at that,

873
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and I just more or less denied it. It was

874
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:44.199
<v Speaker 2>probably a couple of months before I was setting down

875
00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:48.159
<v Speaker 2>one day and I just happened to think I saw

876
00:50:48.280 --> 00:50:51.639
<v Speaker 2>why when coming down the road she saw why wouldn't

877
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:55.079
<v Speaker 2>materialize in the van. I wonder what's going on here?

878
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.519
<v Speaker 2>And like I said, I thought about it. It was

879
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.800
<v Speaker 2>sixteen seventeen years I thought about it, and it's one

880
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 2>of those twenty five stories that I put on Facebook.

881
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 2>And it's just when I just I just forget about

882
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:13.559
<v Speaker 2>it because Walt told me I didn't see anything, and

883
00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know the fact that what

884
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.679
<v Speaker 2>she saw was white and what I was seeing was white.

885
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Now I did not see a small and a baby

886
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, kydler or whatever you want to call it,

887
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.639
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. Never mind, that's got to be

888
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the weirdest bigfoot stories you ever heard.

889
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 1>It's up there, Harold, and it's awesome. So the way

890
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that is, I have my personally, but we

891
00:51:39.079 --> 00:51:42.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't proven what it can do or what exactly it

892
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:47.480
<v Speaker 1>is yet. And end of the day, your friend saw

893
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a white bigfoot materialize inside that vehicle and that's wild

894
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.119
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how you can explain that away, right.

895
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.519
<v Speaker 2>No, she's not like I said, She's not crazy at

896
00:51:58.519 --> 00:52:02.519
<v Speaker 2>all or anything. And I haven't seen her for quite

897
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a while. Far as I know, she's still alive. See

898
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 2>she does put some stuff on Facebook now and then

899
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.559
<v Speaker 2>see why I don't talk about it. Sure you know

900
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 2>too much. It's but that's an example of three big

901
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>foot people making fun each other, which is funny in

902
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:19.199
<v Speaker 2>as well.

903
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.719
<v Speaker 1>But sure, is this something where you're and I know

904
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you said it's south of Mina, Arkansas, just because it's

905
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 1>interesting when listeners hear something and then maybe someone else

906
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.840
<v Speaker 1>has experienced something to do with the white Bigfoot materializing

907
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.199
<v Speaker 1>in that same area. Are there any other things you

908
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.400
<v Speaker 1>can say about the mountain or do we have to

909
00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 1>keep it very vague as to its somewhere self?

910
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.199
<v Speaker 2>That's one of those things. I would have to sure

911
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.719
<v Speaker 2>do some research on it too. I hear you to

912
00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 2>find exactly she's not too far off one of the

913
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:57.519
<v Speaker 2>main highway down there, and I think you's south Amina,

914
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that. But I talked to her. She

915
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 2>had a son, to a teenage son, and I talked

916
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to him about what was going on with her with

917
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the bigfoot that she said stayed in the school bus

918
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:11.639
<v Speaker 2>and he says, yeah, they do. And he says, I

919
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:13.760
<v Speaker 2>guess they'd also been feeding them and they would come

920
00:53:13.800 --> 00:53:17.119
<v Speaker 2>along and they hit the house and hard methods that

921
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>would knock stuff off the walls and things one food

922
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.079
<v Speaker 2>and so she's had a problem around there. But most

923
00:53:24.119 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 2>of the people out with were associated with with the

924
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:32.679
<v Speaker 2>BFR BFRO, and she hated the BFRO. And that's it

925
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:35.519
<v Speaker 2>was just a strange deal that we that she ended

926
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 2>up inviting us over there to take a look. I

927
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:41.559
<v Speaker 2>guess that's when you get people that will listen to

928
00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:43.840
<v Speaker 2>you and believe you. It doesn't make a lot of difference.

929
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 2>That's one of the neatest things we do is as investigators,

930
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.280
<v Speaker 2>do everything we can to believe people. Now, those are

931
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the two best stories I've got and and like I said,

932
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.719
<v Speaker 2>that last one I just haven't told heck the lost

933
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I can figure out where that is so I

934
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:05.719
<v Speaker 2>could come real close. I'm not sure what they call

935
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:09.039
<v Speaker 2>those mountains, if those are the I was thinking of

936
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 2>White mountains, but I don't know. But yeah, that story there.

937
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I so it tookly fifteen years to even think about

938
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.719
<v Speaker 2>tell at all, and it didn't lose me any friends

939
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.679
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but they maybe shut their brief in me

940
00:54:21.719 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But anyway, that's some kind of junk

941
00:54:24.639 --> 00:54:27.280
<v Speaker 2>that my friend Carter is in two of those first

942
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.400
<v Speaker 2>three books, some things, and he comes over here. There

943
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.679
<v Speaker 2>are some spots down around Jonesboro and the Trailer Tears

944
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 2>Park that that we've hit a few times. And there's

945
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:43.239
<v Speaker 2>there's one spot down there south for the Trailer Teers

946
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Park area, and the locals down there say they won't

947
00:54:47.039 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 2>go into it after dark, and we haven't been into

948
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:52.400
<v Speaker 2>it too much, but when we've been in if there's

949
00:54:52.400 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 2>something strange happening there. But again, you don't know. I

950
00:54:56.639 --> 00:55:00.559
<v Speaker 2>didn't used to be afraid going into to the woods

951
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:03.199
<v Speaker 2>or by myself, and that's usually how I do. I

952
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 2>go by myself and in the dark. I didn't used

953
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.199
<v Speaker 2>to be but I've seen some things over the last

954
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:13.639
<v Speaker 2>few years, and I really is someplace I really don't

955
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 2>want to I don't feel good about going into, like

956
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I said, basically, by myself. I don't know that David

957
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Bledis is books, for one one make you think once

958
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:26.320
<v Speaker 2>in a while, and I imagine you've probably read them, right.

959
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, you definitely want to be cautious and aware,

960
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.599
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're going in the woods by yourself and

961
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:36.079
<v Speaker 1>let people know where you're going and all that good

962
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you know. But it sounds like you saw

963
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:41.880
<v Speaker 1>some weird stuff and that that made you think twice

964
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.360
<v Speaker 1>about going into the woods.

965
00:55:43.360 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>That sometimes, Yeah, And I've had that even around here.

966
00:55:47.519 --> 00:55:50.320
<v Speaker 2>Some spots that I've been to an awful lot. One

967
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 2>of them Gift, a few miles from here. I went

968
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 2>down one night and I couldn't make myself get out

969
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 2>of the car. I couldn't get out at all, and

970
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I said in the car or they were probably twenty

971
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 2>minutes and I finally left, and it spook me that

972
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:08.480
<v Speaker 2>was it just all in my mind? Or was there's

973
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:10.920
<v Speaker 2>something telling me not to get out? And I've been

974
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>down to the same spot And the one time I

975
00:56:14.320 --> 00:56:16.199
<v Speaker 2>remember and got out of my car and did a

976
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 2>wooden knock and got a wood knock. I'm on an

977
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.199
<v Speaker 2>old road that end of that dead end, I had

978
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:24.400
<v Speaker 2>a bridge that's been torn out, and I got out

979
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 2>of my car, did some wood knocks and got answers

980
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 2>right there almost in top of me. And I waited

981
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:35.400
<v Speaker 2>awhile and did some more knocks, and I got more answers,

982
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:38.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe two or three times further away, and I said, wow.

983
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.760
<v Speaker 2>And I'm down here by myself, so I don't know.

984
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I didn't used to be afraid at all.

985
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:47.239
<v Speaker 2>My dad was. He was, of course, a World War

986
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:49.679
<v Speaker 2>Two veteran, and I didn't dare tell him if I

987
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>got scared in the woods or at dark walking home

988
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:56.320
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, because he let me know is there's nothing

989
00:56:56.320 --> 00:57:01.679
<v Speaker 2>in that woods that can hurt you. And he was wrong. Yeah,

990
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 2>but yeah he is something else. What else you got.

991
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:10.239
<v Speaker 1>For me, Harold, It's been a fantastic conversation, and I

992
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:12.119
<v Speaker 1>just want to I just want to thank you for

993
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.400
<v Speaker 1>coming on sharing your stories. I know some of them

994
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you haven't really shared before, and I appreciate you being

995
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 1>able to share them. I hope that someday you're able

996
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:25.159
<v Speaker 1>to get your book written. I'd love to get a

997
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.119
<v Speaker 1>copy of it, and I'm sure my listeners would as well.

998
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 1>But it's just been a great time chatting with you, Harold.

999
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 2>That's good. That's good.

1000
00:57:32.920 --> 00:57:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

1001
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>you to you Allmad listeners for listening to the podcast.

1002
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

1003
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:45.159
<v Speaker 1>you to you Allmad listeners for listening to the podcast.

1004
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<v Speaker 1>had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

1012
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1013
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<v Speaker 1>Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the list. Number one encounters from Franklin County, Texas.

1015
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<v Speaker 1>Number two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number

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00:58:29.480 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number

1017
00:58:33.480 --> 00:58:36.599
<v Speaker 1>four any individuals that know about Bigfoot being flown off

1018
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>after the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five. Individuals that

1019
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:43.559
<v Speaker 1>have had a bigfoot encounter well in the military. Number six.

1020
00:58:44.360 --> 00:58:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Those that have had a Bigfoot encounter in the southern

1021
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

1022
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:54.880
<v Speaker 1>Number seven individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in

1023
00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight

1024
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:00.719
<v Speaker 1>individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their house

1025
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 1>forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine individuals that

1026
00:59:05.119 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 1>actively have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly,

1027
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.199
<v Speaker 1>any sightings that are in the watchitat National Forest Area

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<v Speaker 1>of Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you to all

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<v Speaker 1>support that helps keep the show going and I extremely

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. I'll see you back next time. Listeners. SASA

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<v Speaker 2>So there you go.

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