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stuff like we did a few weeks ago. Last week

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we had a great guest. We had doctor Justine Lee,

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who is a veteran toxicologist as well as emergency medic

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critic Care, and we talked about all of the hazards

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around Easter time. And before that we had another veterinarian,

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doctor Heather Lenzer with us. So we've had some pretty

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good guests. And today you got me, just me and

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you know, one of the things that I wanted to

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talk about and things that many of us take for granted,

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and we talked a lot during the year about the

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extreme cold weathers we were having across the country and freezing,

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freezing conditions and lifestyle changes that we needed to take

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care of in order to make our pets more comfortable. Well,

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now it's getting warm. I was just down in the

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San Diego area for about a week, and I mean

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even there. San Diego is known for beautiful weather, but

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it's always you know, typically in the in the mid seventies,

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low seventies, you're right by the water. Though it's way

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south of Los Angeles, you're being literally right on the water.

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It's sometimes a little cooler. And I got to tell you,

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we were inland a bit and it was warm. Palm

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springs desert areas are getting up into the nineties, low

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one hundreds, And I've been hearing from friends and colleagues

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across the country that springtime is here. And I think

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that with that a couple of things lifestyle changes that

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we need to consider taking into consideration, such as most

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of us are not exercising as diligently during the winter

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as we do during the spring and summer. With us

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getting outside less, with us not wanting to brave the

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cold afternoons and evenings, our pets typically are getting less exercise.

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So it often happens, I see, because let's face it,

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most dog and cat owners are not really reducing their

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pets caloric needs as much during the winter. So what

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happens is, like many of us, we pack on the winter. Wait,

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I said, now it's time to get back into shape.

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But it's not so easy to say, well, you know,

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I remember when the end of summer, or you know,

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back in September. You know, Bowser and I were running

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about a mile and a half or two miles a day.

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Bowser's been sitting on his behind all winter and he's

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not ready to get up and start running the same

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amount of time. Just like with an athlete, when you

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have like for example, baseball, you go into spring training,

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and you go into pre season, and you go to

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summer leagues in different sports, and that is you want

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to somewhat stay in shape because it's really hard when

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you have attained a certain level of activity to stop

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that level of activity and go straight into where you

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left off. And ask anyone who is an athlete and

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take some time off or is recuperating from an injury.

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It takes some time and things that you wouldn't even

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think of. It's not just the effect on the muscles,

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but I mean, here's one the pads. You know, when

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you have a dog who's been not running around a

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lot during the winter, their pads become sort of smooth,

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like a like a baby's behind. You know what I mean.

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You can't start going out on warm pavement and running

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now today the way you did at the end of

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last summer, because those pads are going to get blistered,

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they're going to be painful, and I already just and

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here in La people think, oh, yeah, well you never

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really have to take a break. No, we do too.

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People get lazy. The days are shorter, so yeah, it

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might be warmer, but nobody wants to go out at

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five six o'clock when it's already dark. So now that

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it's getting dark at eight o'clock, people are taking advantage.

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couple of weeks of the dog's coming in the lane.

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I cannot feel anything, nothing that is obvious. And you

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look at the pads and they are literally blistered and peeling,

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just from a dog running on a hard surface. So

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it's real. It's something that we have to deal with.

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So I'm going to make some recommendations and it's important,

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and you know, I love to hear from any of

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you really. First of all, want to think I wanted

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to hear about after having Doctor Leon last week, has

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anyone had a problem with this past easter Because I've

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gotten a number of calls. In fact, this is very funny.

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Just to get off track for a second, one of

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my associates gets a call yesterday from her boyfriend and

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their own dog got into an Easter basket full of

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chocolate eggs that were sitting high on a counter. Now

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what was so amazing is she was saying that this

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dog never ever jumps on the counters. It's like the

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best dog in the world. You can leave food right

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on the table, leave the table and the dog will

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leave the food alone. And here it is, this dog

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got into, like I don't know, thirty forty ounces of

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pure chocolate rapper and all. And so obviously she had

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to have the dog come in and we do some vomiting.

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But how funny is that. So it even could happen

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to a veterinarian, it could happen to anybody. So I

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want to know if any of you had any problems

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with easter plants that we talked about, like the lilies

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and cats of course, or chocolate. Please give us a

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call here and let us know once again easy number

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and let us know how you fared. Anyway, let's go back.

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You are starting with nice weather, you want to get

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out there and start the spring activity. Firstly, now's a

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good time if you haven't recently take your pet to

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your veterinarian for a thorough checkup, because before you start

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any exercise program, we want to make sure everything's okay,

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and hopefully it will be and if they're young and healthy,

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they probably won't need much other than a you know,

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a good physical exam. I don't think you need any

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kind of blood work or anything like that, just to

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make sure that all is well once you get the

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green light from your veterinarian. Next is to start slow.

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Don't start where you're left off at the end of

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last summer or early fall, which means, if you normally

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got to the point where you're running around the block

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you know, six times, go once or twice and start

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a little slower and make sure that that everything's Read

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your dog's behavior, read the panting, read the sluggishness, read

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the salivation. If these things happen, then you know you

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might be pushing it a little too much. Early on,

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Always when you're giving a choice exercise, either in the

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early morning or later in the evening, closer to seven

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or eight. Wait till the sun goes down. You don't

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want to, you know, if you're home during the day

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in two o'clock heads and you say, oh my god,

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I'm kind of bored. What a great time to go

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out for a little run. What a great time to

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go to the park and throw that frizee or chase

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the tennis ball. No, not such a great time. I rarely,

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rarely see cases of heat exhaustion, which by the way,

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can be deadly. I've seen temperatures sky as high as

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one hundred and seven degrees in a dog. That is

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really dangerous. I don't see that when they go out

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earlier in the morning or late in the evening. I

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do see it when these dogs are doing their hikes,

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doing their runs, going to the park to play ball

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in the middle of the day. So you want to,

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you know, kind of keep that in mind. And you know,

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though you may not reach the major heat temperatures, the

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dry heat that we get here, like for example, in Arizona,

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or in the desert, or in Vegas, or and even

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sometimes the desert of California, palm springs or the high deserts.

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southeast northeast, is where we start seeing high humidity, and

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that is really tough. Sometimes it's like stifling Humidly recently,

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when I was, you know, away last week, I met

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up with some people that were from New York and

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they would much rather not have to deal. They hate

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being in certain parts of the country during the summer

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because of the humidity eighty percent humidity go down to

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the southeast, whether it's Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, I mean, it

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gets really hot and humid and not a good time

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for dogs as well. You're going from air condition to

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air condition. So these are things that I want you

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to keep in mind as you're going to be, you know,

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starting on that fun summer of exercise and then it's

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a matter of having a good time now. Also make

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sure that you're not gonna and this is the same

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lesson that I'm sure your mom taught you when you

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were small, and that is you're not gonna eat a

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big meal and then go out and play. I remember

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as kids we had to wait an hour after we

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ate before we could swim, and it's the same thing.

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Besides the fact, who wants to start running around, but

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you got to give an opportunity for that food to digest.

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And in the larger breeds, and we did touch upon

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this last week, was something called bloat or gastric torsion.

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That's where the stomach sort of twists on its own axis.

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And this happens again if a dog eats a meal

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and then typically especially if it's dry food, they go

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drink a bunch of water. The food inside the stomach

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expands to three times its normal size. The stomach is

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hugely bloated, and then they start going around and running.

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is rocking back and forth, and that's where we can

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end up with severe, severe problems and which end up

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could be deadly. Of course, if it's not recognized, you

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do your run and then you leave, you go back

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to work in the afternoon, or you work a night shift,

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and you can come back to a dog who unfortunately

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has passed because of a ruptured stomach from gastric bloat,

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gastric torsion or GDV which is gastric dilatation and fobulous,

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which is the term that we use to describe this condition.

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So anyway, we're going to be back our phone number

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to semt for Doctor Jeff here on

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In fact, on the break, I was just checking some emails,

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taking advantage of the a few minutes, and I do

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have an email from John in Atlanta who was buying

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some products for his dog and one of the employees

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at the pet store started talking about diets, of course,

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and wanted to know if he's ever tried one of

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these raw diets, these naturally raw diets. And John from Atlanta, who,

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by the way, by setting in a question, John is

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going to get a free CONG product and a free

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pro Sense product for his dog and just think so

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we're going to give Hopefully John, you're going to get

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an answer and you're going to get a free Kong toy,

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which are great, by the way, congs are amazing, and

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a pro Sense product as well to keep your dog

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as happy that's the CONG and as healthy the pro

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Sense product as can be. Anyway, you know we've talked

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about this before. John. I don't know if you if

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you had a chance to listen in. But first of all,

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a question I always ask anyone when they are thinking

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about changing the diet their pet's diet. Why what is

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your dog having a problem? Are you anthropomorphizing thinking that? Well,

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you know, God, you know, as in nature, when these

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dogs are ancestors, they didn't have cooked meat. They ate

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raw meat, So of course we should be feeding our

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dogs raw meat. I'm not so sure. I don't know

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the domestication process of our canine companions has taken thousands

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of years. Do we really think that the gut flora

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of today's domesticated pet is the same as their ancestors

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from thousands of years ago. I think not. Now would

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it be harmful? Well, I'm not sure. There are obviously

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certain bacteria in raw meats. I know that many of

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us don't like to eat raw meat. If there was

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some step in the production process, maybe a flash freeze

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for example, that could kill off, say the salmonella or

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the E. Coli, then it may be totally safe. But

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then the question is are you really giving your dog

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something better? So the criteria that I often after I

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ask my questions would be does your dog like the

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food defeeding? And let's assume the answer is yes. Does

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he have good normal stools again, let's assume yes, lots

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of energy, he wants to play run around the answer yes?

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And how about his coat nice and shinies? Is you

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have a nice luster to the coat? And let's assume yes. Well,

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if I get a yes to all of those, my

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recommendation would be, don't change a thing, because why rock

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the boat. It's one of those things where there's no

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guarantee that a dog is going to do any better

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on a organic food, on a natural food on a

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raw food than they are right now. And the question

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I also so often ask the client when we have

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this discussion, and John, this would be perfect for you

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being the fact that this happened out of pet store

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to the seventeen year old at the pet store, the

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guy who's working an after high school job. Does he

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also have a veterny degree? Does he have a degree nutrition?

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Have about a degree in biochemistry, anything that might lend

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him that let us know that, oh my god, this

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kid's a genius, he's an expert. We should really listen

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to him. And the answer, clearly, I can't be any

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more facetious than I am, is no. What makes him

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tick probably the specials they got that week going on

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at the store, where the store is making even more

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a profit on you than on some of the regular foods.

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And you know, I always have to laugh and I

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have you know, I have no claim to any involvement,

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but it's a very very funny, funny situation. But one

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of the prime foods, what we call a premium food

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that was very very popular at the pet store level

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years ago were the Iames products. I'ms in Ukanuba and

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I mean I remember I remember back in the day,

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my sister got a dog from a breeder and it

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was a Doberman pincher and on the contract it said

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that this contract will be null and void if you

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stop feeding this puppy i'ms food products, which I thought

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was a rather bold step, but that is the high

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regard that i'ms product were kept. Products were kept in

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back in the day when they were again only available

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at what we call pet specialty or veterinary level, so

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years ago at the time, honestly, I never heard of IMES.

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That's how long ago. It was. So fast forward to

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the prominence that i'ms had attained in the marketplace, and

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so much so that it's amazing sales and amazing story

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caught the eye of one of the larger, one of

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the country's largest companies. We call it P and G

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Procter and Gamble, So Procter and Gamble buys IMES. Of course,

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the found of arms is retired, probably forever, and the

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first thing they do is is a company that just

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purchased the new foods what I mean, Yeah, pet specialty

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is nice, but let's face it, we're a mass company.

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We have products all over the mass market, which includes

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supermarkets and the big box retailers. We're not going to

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be exclusively just to the pet store level. And they

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started distributing IMS products through supermarkets, through the big stores,

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the big box stores, the mass chain stores, et cetera.

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So now of course pet stores, the pet specially couldn't compete.

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So what do they do. They start pulling MS off

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the shelf. So now you are that satisfied customer and

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been going to this pet store for the longest time.

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They know you. My name, it's Cheers, you know, They Hey, Jeff,

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how you doing. Oh I'd like to buy my arms.

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Oh that food is terrible. Oh no, you don't want

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to feed that. It's full of chemicals and it's full

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of fillers. Well wait second, but didn't you tell me

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last week and the week before and then it was

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a second, it's a fantastic food. Oh no, you know

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they changed their their formula. No they didn't. The problem

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is it's now no longer exclusive to the pet specialty market.

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So they went ahead and now they malign this food

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that's still a pretty darn good food. And the Yukuannabu

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products we even sell here at the hospital. So you

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really got to look at your target. You got to

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look at who's selling you the food, who's telling you

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how great this food is, and sort of take it

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with a grain of salt. You know, It's so funny

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because I have clients that are so so concerned about

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what they put in their pets mouths, and on the

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way home they make sure to stop it, you know,

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McDonald's or Taco Bell, some fast food place. So I mean, really, again,

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if your pet is on a food that they like,

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they have energy, they have a shiny coat, they have

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normal stools, don't let anybody talk you out of feeding

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that same food. Now. Of course, if your pet is

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having a problem in any one of these areas, of course,

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if there's signs of a food allergy. Of course, if

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you work with your veterinarian and you do a food

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elimination diet and find out that your pet is allergic

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to chicken, for example, then yes, you need to find

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a food that doesn't have chicken. And don't kid yourself

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in thinking, well, no, you know, I'm gonna feed this

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chicken because the chicken in this food, it's organic, it's

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free range chicken. Certainly that's not gonna be a problem. Oh, contraire.

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Of course it is because when a dog, a pet,

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or a person is allergic to a particular ingredient in

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a protein in a food, it doesn't make a difference

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whether that protein is from the worst fast food place

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in town or from a high end, organic, free range

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whatever restaurant. Chicken is, chicken is chicken. They're gonna be allergic. So,

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as you said, what you really need to do is

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don't let a pet store tell you what you should

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be feeding your pet. That's what we're here for. Ask

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your veterinarian, Let your veterinarian know how your pet is doing.

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And if you're veterinarian wants you to try something different,

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then he or she will discuss it with you. They

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will go over the salient finer points on how to

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gradually switch from food A to food B. Let you

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know that if you do a rapid switch you may

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see some intestinal upset. It's not because of the new food,

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it's because of the fast switch. So again, these are

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little little things that you have to take in consideration

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when deciding whether or not you should be switching foods.

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My dogs have been on the same and I have

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five have been on the same food for longest the

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longest time my cats as well. One of the foods

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I feed my cats I feed a specialty diet only

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because I get it here from the office, but I

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also feed them a commercial, over the counter, supermarket brand

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of canned foods, and they are doing just great on it.

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They love it. It's fine. And you know, one of

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the things that we have to we've talked about with

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the prevalence of feline type two diabetes, and especially in

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older cats and overweight cats, we have to be really

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careful how many carbs, how much carbs we're feeding our cats.

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And obviously dry foods are higher in carb content than

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most canned cat foods, and cats need to eat meat.

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Cats are obligate carnivores, and therefore sometimes getting that mushy,

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yucky but rich canned food diet of pure meat is

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going to be the way to go with your cat.

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So you again something you want to discuss with your veterinarian.

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There are some dry foods that have a high high

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protein content mostly meat. That's great, but again, work with

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your veterinarian on what the best stives to feed your

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cats will be. And of course, as cats get older

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and we suffer from kidney problems. And that's the point

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I want to make. There are some lifestyle issues. For example,

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there was a company out there that started putting out

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a young adult formula. I think that makes a lot

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of sense because as we get to young adults, we

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have growing puppies. We don't want them to get heavy

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as they reach a certain point in their growth cycle.

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They don't need the calories because they're going to gain weight,

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they're not burning up enough. But they still need a

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higher protein because they still growing, So we have to

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be really careful. I thought young adult formula is a

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good idea. There's life stage diets out there. Some food

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say good for all stages. I don't know about that.

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I mean it might be you know, young and young

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dogs healthy dogs is great, but when they get older

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there are some modifications one may need to take depending

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on your pet's health. So again my message point here

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is when if you are considering a diet change, ask

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yourselves the questions why, and then speak to your veterinarian.

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Go over the pros and cons of the diet switch

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with the veterinarian. If you truly are going to solve

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the whatever problem you think, you may be solving, and

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don't listen to the advice of a kid working at

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a pet store and go with their recommendations. Take it in,

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listen if they have something good to say. They have

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some good points. But before you make a switch, speak

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to your veterinarian anyway. It is that time to say goodbye.

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Thank you all for joining in. I'm bumm that none

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of us, none of you had the except for John,

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are going to be getting a free product from cong

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and pro Sense. Those of you that were afraid to

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call and comment eight seven seven three eight five eight

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eight eight two go ahead and send me an email

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just to let me know Drjeff at petlifradio dot com

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that you were tuning in. And even if you do that,

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there's one for you. Just send me email and let

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me know that you were listening and talk anything we

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talked about today, and I will send you out a

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pro Sense product for your pet. See you next week

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here on pet Life Radio. Ask the bets with Doctor Jeff.

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