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Speaker 2: Money in the Bank Preview and Prediction Show, everybody, and
Speaker 2: tonight I've got a returning co host. You guys have
Speaker 2: heard her before. She's got her own podcast too. Grace
Speaker 2: is back with us. How you doing, Grace, I'm good.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on. I'm excited to be back on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, and it's certainly going to be a
Speaker 2: big event tomorrow night. I was screwed up the whole
Speaker 2: week because I thought it for some reason, it was
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Speaker 2: Saturday deals after being a wrestling fan for twenty five years.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's drilled int your head that it's a Sunday,
Speaker 2: but till it's tomorrow night, everybody. In case you're like
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Speaker 2: the ww network. So but before we get going, Grace,
Speaker 2: just I want to ask you about your podcast, because
Speaker 2: I know that you've recently started one and where can
Speaker 2: people find you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're on most podcasting platforms, Spotify, Apple, iHeartRadio,
Speaker 4: stuff like that. We are exclusively only talk about women's wrestling.
Speaker 3: Evolutionary Wrestling Podcast.
Speaker 4: I basically just started it because I love a women's
Speaker 4: wrestling and I don't think it's talked about as much
Speaker 4: as it needs to be, and right now, the women
Speaker 4: are overperforming the guys and outperforming the guys in my opinion,
Speaker 4: So I thought that it would be a great idea to,
Speaker 4: you know, start a podcast and just the only contact
Speaker 4: content being about women's wrestling. So if you want to
Speaker 4: check us out, look up Evolutionary Wrestling Podcast and tune
Speaker 4: in for some great wrestling content.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, though there is not there's not enough focus on
Speaker 2: the women's uh you know, in terms of the podcasting
Speaker 2: feel for just the women's wrestling, which is great. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, guys, I'd really highly recommend it. Check out
Speaker 2: the Evolutionary Wrestling Podcast for sure. And we've got some
Speaker 2: women's matches that we'll get to. Some that I'm really
Speaker 2: excited about. One that I'm like kind of about with
Speaker 2: the Smack that Women's Championship, But let's start off with
Speaker 2: the ussoson street profits for the Undisputed WWE Tag Team Championship.
Speaker 2: I mean, do I hate to say this one sounds predictable,
Speaker 2: but maybe you have a different take on a grace.
Speaker 2: What do you think about this one?
Speaker 4: No, I can't differ from you on this one. If
Speaker 4: you have the USOS, I have the usas winning this one.
Speaker 4: I don't see them dropping their belts. I don't think
Speaker 4: it makes any sense, and if they did, that would
Speaker 4: be I feel like a twist that no one would
Speaker 4: see coming. But this is a match I mean we've
Speaker 4: seen a lot. I mean we've seen it multiple multiple times,
Speaker 4: and it's they never have a bad match together. So
Speaker 4: I'm not upset that the match is happening, because it's
Speaker 4: going to be a great match no matter what when
Speaker 4: you put these guys in the ring together. But I
Speaker 4: just I don't see the USOS losing those titles right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, I think that the quality of the
Speaker 2: match is most of what people are going to be
Speaker 2: looking for here because we know it's going to be
Speaker 2: really good with all four of these men who are
Speaker 2: ultra talented in the ring, and the match quality is
Speaker 2: probably what's going to save this from being kind of
Speaker 2: a snooze fest only because the outcome is all But
Speaker 2: I mean it's about a ninety nine percent chance, like
Speaker 2: this one is a pretty safe bet if you actually
Speaker 2: have money on it, that the users are going to retain.
Speaker 2: There's almost no reason at all for the Street Profits
Speaker 2: to capture the WWE Undisputed Tag Team Championships, particularly because
Speaker 2: also the WWE has done their typical formula of having
Speaker 2: the champions lose, whether it's in singles, competition or in
Speaker 2: a tag team like week after week after week only
Speaker 2: to retain the championships when they're on the line, and
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen here. But yeah, the quality of
Speaker 2: the match I have no issue with. And I think
Speaker 2: as fans, we need to look at this and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's just let's just enjoy the journey of it, because
Speaker 2: we all know the destination.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 4: I think the WW kind of has shot themselves in
Speaker 4: the foot with they have a lot of matches that
Speaker 4: are so predictable and not in the way of like
Speaker 4: it's like with the USOS, they it wouldn't make no
Speaker 4: sense for them to the titles right now, but that's
Speaker 4: how they've built the story. So when you have big
Speaker 4: matches like this and then you make your storyline so
Speaker 4: predictable to the fact that like, if it won't the
Speaker 4: opposite way, it would make no sense. It's like you're
Speaker 4: just watching a match where you definitely know the outcome.
Speaker 4: But the WW does it to themselves, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a lot of the what they do
Speaker 2: with self inflicted wounds, and a lot of times you
Speaker 2: can tell that the creative refuses to change their formulas
Speaker 2: and how they do things, and even the way sometimes
Speaker 2: matches are structured. It's always starts out with usually the babyface,
Speaker 2: you know, getting some offense to get the crowd into it.
Speaker 2: The heel takes over. There's a couple of hope spots
Speaker 2: that you know, like it's a lot of you can
Speaker 2: just feel when a match is coming to its conclusion
Speaker 2: and you can almost tell you you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like every match, I don't care who it is. It's
Speaker 2: just the WWE style and that unfortunately will never change.
Speaker 2: But I mean it's not all bad. But uh yeah,
Speaker 2: I hear what you're saying. So all right, well let's
Speaker 2: talk about the United States Championship. This match, I gotta say,
Speaker 2: isn't as predictable I think as the Tag Team Championship.
Speaker 2: We have Theory versus Bobby Lashley. There's certainly a favorite here,
Speaker 2: but I don't know, Grace, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: So I would say Theory is gonna retain.
Speaker 4: And this could go either way. But the reason I
Speaker 4: have like kind of a prediction not only for the winner,
Speaker 4: but for afterwards. I think that Theory is gonna retain
Speaker 4: and I think there's a possibility that John Cena comes
Speaker 4: out and gets in his face and you know, wants
Speaker 4: looks like he wants the title, and then they have
Speaker 4: a thing for Summer Slam and builds the Summer Slam.
Speaker 4: But that could also happen if Bobby won the title
Speaker 4: as well. They could still have a few and the
Speaker 4: title wouldn't need to be in it. But I would
Speaker 4: say theory retains. Plus Sena coming out at the end.
Speaker 4: I also think that would be awesome if it happened.
Speaker 2: See I like that. So first of all, let me
Speaker 2: just say right off the bat, yeah, I think theory
Speaker 2: does retain. I'm not as confident as the tag team
Speaker 2: title match. There's certainly a chance Bobby wins, but given
Speaker 2: where they've positioned theory and that, I truly believe McMahon,
Speaker 2: not just in story, but behind the scenes, is going
Speaker 2: to get behind theory. And there's there's rumors of Sena
Speaker 2: versus Theory at Summerslam's rumors of Sena in theory all
Speaker 2: the way to Summer or to WrestleMania next year. That's
Speaker 2: also been rumored. According to Wrestling Observer, Dave Meltzer, lover
Speaker 2: hate him, and sometimes he does have good information that's
Speaker 2: the rumors as of now that it could be at
Speaker 2: WrestleMania that these two face off. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that SummerSlam can't happen either. It's their quote unquote WrestleMania
Speaker 2: of the summer. So I don't I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: think that your prediction is impossible. In fact, I'd give
Speaker 2: it a fifty to fifty with John Cena. Now, he
Speaker 2: did get punked out a little bit by Theory on Raw.
Speaker 2: We saw their interaction. The crowd was into it. I mean,
Speaker 2: the crowd was like, oh, here we go, like we've
Speaker 2: been hearing about this. They come face to face Sina,
Speaker 2: you know, ditches him when he tries to take a selfie.
Speaker 2: That's all that was said or that's all that was done.
Speaker 2: And then now we're here in the match and here
Speaker 2: is Theory in Bobby Lashley, and before we get to Seena,
Speaker 2: I think that Lashly in Theory is gonna be a
Speaker 2: really good match. Like they're both really good workers, different styles,
Speaker 2: you know, certainly, you know, we have Bobby Lashley's more
Speaker 2: of a powerhouse. We have Theory, who was a little
Speaker 2: bit more athletic and gymnastic in a way. So this match,
Speaker 2: I'd expect to be a lot of fun, and I
Speaker 2: ultimately see Theory cheating to win. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think he'll outright beat Bobby Lashley clean. He seems to
Speaker 2: be a guy that'll take advantage of a situation, an ipoke,
Speaker 2: a low blow, a title to the face behind the
Speaker 2: referees back. It'll be a kind of I think an
Speaker 2: old school heel victory, pulling up the tights, something along
Speaker 2: those lines to get the victory over Bobby and then
Speaker 2: gloat about it and take a selfie with Bobby on
Speaker 2: the canvas, whatever it may be. But as far as
Speaker 2: John Cena coming out again, I'd give it fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I don't think John Sene is going to come out.
Speaker 2: If it's the second match on the show, or if it's,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of in the first half of the show.
Speaker 2: Sena appearing here should be a big deal, and it
Speaker 2: would be a weird placement for Theory and Lashly if
Speaker 2: it is the second match. Now, this is just the
Speaker 2: way I'm looking at the lineup now, But if the
Speaker 2: later in the show that this match happens, I think
Speaker 2: the higher likelihood of John Cena appearing.
Speaker 4: See the only reason I even think John Cena is
Speaker 4: going to come out is purely based off of the
Speaker 4: promo he gave on last Monday.
Speaker 3: Night roll Is.
Speaker 4: I feel like it was such a red hearing for
Speaker 4: him when he was talking about having a match or
Speaker 4: coming back in the ring, and he was saying, how
Speaker 4: you know, it's there's not going to be one and
Speaker 4: I will be back in but I don't know when.
Speaker 4: So I feel like it made everyone think that, oh, well,
Speaker 4: we thought he was going to you know, be in
Speaker 4: the ring soon, but now that he's you know, saying
Speaker 4: it in the now, maybe he's not.
Speaker 3: So I feel like that's a red herring.
Speaker 4: So if he shows up soon than everyone thinks, I
Speaker 4: think that was like the plan for him to you know.
Speaker 3: Say that he's, oh, you know, it might be a long.
Speaker 4: Time, but then he ends up now this weekend, like
Speaker 4: the same week so I feel like it was a
Speaker 4: red herring.
Speaker 3: But that's the only reason I'm saying that he would
Speaker 3: come out.
Speaker 2: Sneaky, Yeah, because the way he was speaking, you would
Speaker 2: just buy, you know, just by his tone, think like
Speaker 2: you said, yeah, that'll probably mean what Survivors series maybe
Speaker 2: towards the Rumbull wrestling. Yeah, I mean that that is
Speaker 2: a that's a good point because even I was duped
Speaker 2: by that, thinking, yeah, he doesn't sound like he's going
Speaker 2: to be here like next week. It sounds like it's
Speaker 2: going to be several months. So yeah, I think that's
Speaker 2: a nice, uh subtle way to fool the fans into
Speaker 2: thinking that it's going to be a while, when in fact,
Speaker 2: it's like a week away that I'm gonna come back.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like that, And certainly again Summertimes their second biggest
Speaker 2: pay per view of the year, why wouldn't you want
Speaker 2: Theory and John Cena And you know, having John Cena
Speaker 2: with the United States Championship in that matchup with Theory,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of history with seen in the United
Speaker 2: States Championship. He's the one that like resurrected it back
Speaker 2: to life when he was doing the uh the Open
Speaker 2: Challenges a number of years ago. I mean that was
Speaker 2: actually a lot of fun. I remember that, and that
Speaker 2: was a formula that WWE took and really just kind
Speaker 2: of duplicated it, not just for the US title, but
Speaker 2: other titles as well, for Babyface champions So yeah, this
Speaker 2: could be a lot of fun, and you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not you're talking me into it. I'm still gonna stick
Speaker 2: by no. I'm gonna stay no Sina, but I still
Speaker 2: stay fifty to fifty. I think both of us agree
Speaker 2: though that theory is retaining.
Speaker 4: See I also the reason I'm I I think there's
Speaker 4: going to retain, but there's I agree with you.
Speaker 3: This match could go either way.
Speaker 4: And the reason it could go the other way too
Speaker 4: is because maybe they don't want winning the US Championship.
Speaker 4: Maybe they want him winning the ICE title because then
Speaker 4: he would become a Grand Slam champion. That was that's,
Speaker 4: you know, one of his last accolades that he needs
Speaker 4: to get. And then they can see WW wanting him
Speaker 4: to be that top guy in the company, to have
Speaker 4: the most championships, to beat Rick Flair, because they want
Speaker 4: John Cena to be the guy in WW.
Speaker 3: They want people to look up.
Speaker 4: John Cena and see him being the you know, have
Speaker 4: the most championships.
Speaker 3: So I know that WW wants to make him. He
Speaker 3: just needs one more.
Speaker 4: So that's why on the other hand, I could see
Speaker 4: him maybe also not coming out because they want to
Speaker 4: maybe have him go again schoonther and then go for
Speaker 4: the IC title. So you can become a Grand Slam champion,
Speaker 4: so it could go it could go either way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that John Cena is a
Speaker 2: guy that is not he sounds like I mean, he
Speaker 2: said multiple matches. Do I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: an Intercontinental Championship run. I mean, if he's one championship
Speaker 2: away from being a Grand Slam champion, I'm sure they
Speaker 2: would like to have that run with him. But also
Speaker 2: the fact that to get their his seventeenth World championship,
Speaker 2: whatever match that may way, maybe it probably should happen
Speaker 2: at wrestle Mania given that at this point, I don't
Speaker 2: think they have any love loss for Rick Flair with
Speaker 2: all the bad pr he got earlier this year, with
Speaker 2: the plane ride from Hell and the allegations that are
Speaker 2: seem to be pretty believable with what Rick Flair did
Speaker 2: on the plane, you know, not good. So they distance
Speaker 2: himself and you know, as they should. So you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think that they have any love loss for
Speaker 2: Rick Flair right now, and John Cena is their guy,
Speaker 2: and they I mean, they spent the entire monthy at
Speaker 2: Raw just drooling over him, with the video packages and
Speaker 2: people standing and clapping and which I wasn't a fan
Speaker 2: of ef anabelist my raw review. I did not like
Speaker 2: that whole everybody standing a concession line and let's all
Speaker 2: clap and you know, heels and baby faces. No, no,
Speaker 2: let's not worry about it, guys, everything that just happened.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna stand in here and applaud John Cena.
Speaker 2: I you know, there's things that you can do. That
Speaker 2: was not a moment for that. But anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 2: we're talking about John Cena here, and it's theory and
Speaker 2: Bobby Lashley. But I do think theory attains. But you're right,
Speaker 2: Bobby Lashley has an opportunity here to capture it, and
Speaker 2: I think that they have placed Bobby Lashley in a
Speaker 2: good position to be believable to do that. So all right,
Speaker 2: I want to move on to the SmackDown Women's Championship,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna take this one first, and maybe you
Speaker 2: can put a more positive spin on it than I can,
Speaker 2: because you are the Wrestling Women's Wrestling podcast Affection auto here.
Speaker 2: So I am just I'm looking at this and saying, Okay,
Speaker 2: Natalia is a veteran. She is the veterans, the women's
Speaker 2: veteran in the locker room. I understand that she's the
Speaker 2: locker room leader all that and ronder ROWSI. I'm not
Speaker 2: a huge fan of rond E ROUSI. It's no secret
Speaker 2: and it's she's just not my cup of tea. I
Speaker 2: think she exposes the business in a way that makes
Speaker 2: herself higher than the business, or at least she tries
Speaker 2: to elevate herself. She can't even mention the SmackDown Women's
Speaker 2: Championship for some reason, she's allergic to putting those three
Speaker 2: words together. She just wants to say SmackDown Championship, like
Speaker 2: don't I think that's disrespectful. I understand the argument for
Speaker 2: why put women in there, you know, that's a whole
Speaker 2: another thing. But I think there's been moments in her
Speaker 2: career that she has felt like she's above the business,
Speaker 2: and I'm not a fan of that. But she's excellent
Speaker 2: in the ring. For what she's done in MMA. To
Speaker 2: translate that to WWE, I think it's been it's certainly
Speaker 2: been commendable, and she's an ultra athlete. I respect for
Speaker 2: her on a professional level. I just not a fan
Speaker 2: of her character. I mean, I don't want to get
Speaker 2: into it specifically, but Natalia here in Ronda Rowsey. It'll
Speaker 2: be fun. They've built this around the submission holds that
Speaker 2: they have, with the sharpshooter being apparently, according to Italia,
Speaker 2: more devastating than the arm bar where she said she
Speaker 2: almost got Ronda to tap out the previous week, and
Speaker 2: Ronda Rowsey obviously has been very successful with her arm bar,
Speaker 2: and so the story's okay. But I think that the
Speaker 2: outcome here is kind of like the tag team title match,
Speaker 2: Like there's just no way they're gonna have an Italian
Speaker 2: win here. It's almost like she is the Temina of SmackDown,
Speaker 2: where they bring her out of the crypt every so
Speaker 2: often just to have a you know, kind of a
Speaker 2: bigger match, and then they just you know, push her,
Speaker 2: push her back down into the basement for a while,
Speaker 2: and we don't hear from her, and you know, she's
Speaker 2: just posting Instagram photos with her cats or whatever she does.
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's just I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 2: do anything here. The match quality will. I think it'll
Speaker 2: be fine, but there's just no way, no way. That's
Speaker 2: how you wins this, do you do? You see the
Speaker 2: same thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't see Ntella winning. I think
Speaker 3: Ronda will retain first and foremost.
Speaker 4: But as for the whole this, Okay, I I get
Speaker 4: so tongue tied over this because I don't have words
Speaker 4: to explain, Like how disappointing anything with Ronda Rousey is
Speaker 4: that they ever come up with?
Speaker 3: Because doesn't this story sound a little bit familiar?
Speaker 4: Matt?
Speaker 2: I mean I've seen thousands of storyline I mean like,
Speaker 2: I mean, it probably does. It's some there's some part
Speaker 2: of my brain that probably dos why what is it?
Speaker 2: What do you know?
Speaker 4: If we rewind to uh, Ronda's last feud that she
Speaker 4: had for the title was with Charlotte, right, and the
Speaker 4: main thing of their story was submissions.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make you tap out. I know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make you tap out. So like it's the same exact thing.
Speaker 4: They haven't even come up with a new story at all.
Speaker 4: It is the same exact story, which shows you a
Speaker 4: lot what creatives thinking about. But yeah, no, I respect
Speaker 4: and tell you a lot. I mean, I respect and tell.
Speaker 3: You a lot.
Speaker 4: But and she's trained a lot of the women on
Speaker 4: the roster for years because she's that good, and she's
Speaker 4: always been that good and she's a VET and will
Speaker 4: always be someone you can respect in the ring, and
Speaker 4: not to mention, I just she's come to the end.
Speaker 3: Of her career with.
Speaker 4: I thought at least with a main match or sorry
Speaker 4: it may event title matches and stuff like that. So
Speaker 4: when she was announced for this, I was very surprised,
Speaker 4: and I think they could have easily put someone else
Speaker 4: in that position. But you know, this match, it's not
Speaker 4: gonna be bad, but Ron is going to retain, and
Speaker 4: then Italia is going to go back to whatever she
Speaker 4: was doing before, tag tagging with Shana and a tag
Speaker 4: division that doesn't exist, and then they're never going to
Speaker 4: push anyone else on the SmackDown roster like they normally do.
Speaker 3: I mean, they haven't pushed anyone since Raquel was the
Speaker 3: last person we saw that.
Speaker 4: They actually seemed like they wanted to push, and then
Speaker 4: they threw an Italia into this match, which they went
Speaker 4: in so many different directions and I don't think they
Speaker 4: ended up on the right one. But you know, the
Speaker 4: SmackDown roster, I mean, I talk about it on my
Speaker 4: podcast all the time. It's it's weak. It's really weak,
Speaker 4: and it's not the women's fault.
Speaker 3: It's Creative's fault.
Speaker 4: They don't put any effort into any storylines on that roster.
Speaker 4: And I mean you could you can compare the SmackDown
Speaker 4: roster to the Raw roster.
Speaker 3: It doesn't even come close.
Speaker 4: And I mean that has a lot to do with
Speaker 4: I mean, there's seven women on the SmackDown roster, so.
Speaker 3: It's not in Italian's fault.
Speaker 4: But Creative needs to get a little creative and like, actually,
Speaker 4: give you know, the SmackDown title some good matches because
Speaker 4: this is not it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's funny that you said that Creative needs
Speaker 2: to be creative. It's like they're not living up to
Speaker 2: what their name is. Yeah, it's it's tough. Plus, I mean,
Speaker 2: but in their defense, they don't have Charlotte, they don't
Speaker 2: have Bailey yet. I think Bailey actually is gonna be
Speaker 2: if I was gonna guess facing Ronda at SummerSlam, that
Speaker 2: sounds like a Summer Slam match to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: Bailey's even I think possible to attack Ronda at the
Speaker 2: end of this match. I imagine they're gonna keep her
Speaker 2: heel and try to keep Ronda baby face, which I
Speaker 2: would honestly, I would love to see that happen because
Speaker 2: I think the crowd is starting to turn on Ronda
Speaker 2: a bit. They're very lukewarm about it with Ronda as champion,
Speaker 2: kind of with Bianca bell Air. We'll get to that
Speaker 2: match next too. Like they're not booing either woman, but
Speaker 2: it feels like they're not getting the reaction that they
Speaker 2: want them to have at this level. And there's so
Speaker 2: many reasons for that. I mean, creative is to blame
Speaker 2: on it. Ronda Rousey needing to learn how to cut
Speaker 2: a damn promo. Although this week was probably her best, uh,
Speaker 2: she her promo ability is not great. She needs to
Speaker 2: learn how to time it when the mic or when
Speaker 2: their music goes off. Don't whisper into the microphone, like
Speaker 2: speak with some bass in your voice. I mean, she's
Speaker 2: got a great look, but just her her promo ability
Speaker 2: is very hit and miss. A lot of times you
Speaker 2: feel like she's literally reading off a teleprompter. I mean
Speaker 2: like it feels like that a lot of times. I
Speaker 2: mean it's not easy to do. I'm not saying it's easy,
Speaker 2: but you know, when you look at the importance of
Speaker 2: learning how to cut a good promo, Ronda's just not
Speaker 2: there yet. But that said, you know, look at this
Speaker 2: match circling back. I think is going to be fine.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be some spots where the
Speaker 2: Natalia does put her in the sharpshooter and Ronda's crying
Speaker 2: out in pain and she's crawling to the ropes, she
Speaker 2: pulls her back to the middle of the ring, and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, she can win it. That'll
Speaker 2: probably be an Italian's hope spot, Like that's going to
Speaker 2: be the spot that's coming where we're all supposed to
Speaker 2: believe that Natalia could win. She's not going to. Ronnie
Speaker 2: will make her tap and that's it, and Italia will
Speaker 2: go back to doing whatever she was doing. But I
Speaker 2: mean again, WWE doesn't SmackDown, doesn't have two of their
Speaker 2: biggest stars that were on SmackDown in Charlotte and Bailey
Speaker 2: right now, so that is a bit of a problem.
Speaker 2: But overall, yeah, the women's division as a whole, especially
Speaker 2: on SmackDown, has been fairly weak, even with Ronda Rousey
Speaker 2: at the top of it right now. And as I
Speaker 2: look at this whole card, it's funny there was not
Speaker 2: one just grudge match. Every single match on this card
Speaker 2: is either a championship match or something for the briefcase.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting that it's And the reason I say
Speaker 2: that is for the women's division as a whole. You
Speaker 2: probably have heard this before too. They almost never have
Speaker 2: just a grudge match, like just a personal feud. They
Speaker 2: always have to have the women chasing the women's championship,
Speaker 2: or if there's a match on the pay per view,
Speaker 2: it's always for the women's championship. They can't just build
Speaker 2: a storyline out of pure character development to make people
Speaker 2: care about the women's division, care about two individuals and
Speaker 2: who wins who loses, And they don't have any faith
Speaker 2: or the creative ability to think that people will care
Speaker 2: if there's not a championship involved.
Speaker 3: Yeah I do.
Speaker 4: Oh, I actually have a question for you after it loses,
Speaker 4: which seems to be inevitable.
Speaker 3: Where do you think they go run after this? And
Speaker 3: Bailey really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Bailey I mean to be Bailey has
Speaker 2: been I followed her a little bit on Instagram, and
Speaker 2: every time there's an event, especially from WrestleMania on now,
Speaker 2: she's been putting things on her Instagram that she knows
Speaker 2: she's screwing with fans and we're all you know she's
Speaker 2: been very good at it, putting up something a month
Speaker 2: or two ago about you know, TikTok, my time's almost here,
Speaker 2: like I'm coming back. Didn't say that verbatim, but she
Speaker 2: put up something that alluded to that. She put up
Speaker 2: something recently of her holding the brief the money in
Speaker 2: the bank, briefcase laying unpresumably a hotel bed, I think,
Speaker 2: and she was just laying there holding the briefcase, and
Speaker 2: so she knows what she's doing, and I'd imagine that
Speaker 2: she's got to be close. I mean, it's been well,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been almost a year since she's
Speaker 2: been out from her injuries. So I think it's Ronda
Speaker 2: Rowsey in Bailey. I can't think of something bigger for
Speaker 2: SummerSlam than that. What are they gonna do? Go back
Speaker 2: to Ronda Rousey and Charlotte again that no one wants
Speaker 2: to see? So that's it. I can't think of another option.
Speaker 4: I that would be great if Bailey returned and they
Speaker 4: did a feud with Rond and Bailey.
Speaker 3: I one hundred percent agree. I don't have the faith
Speaker 3: in them to plan that, and I don't know the
Speaker 3: timeline of you know, Bailey's injury and all that. But
Speaker 3: I could see them either going either.
Speaker 4: Back to Roquel and they've already done it kind of
Speaker 4: so either going back to her or starting a feud
Speaker 4: with Shana, because I that is the one Ronda Rousey
Speaker 4: feud that I would actually be interested in.
Speaker 3: I don't like Ronda RAUSI I'm with you on that.
Speaker 4: I think I will go I will go to my
Speaker 4: grave saying that the only thing Ronda has is not
Speaker 4: in ring skill.
Speaker 3: She's not bad, but she's not great. She has no
Speaker 3: Mike skill.
Speaker 4: The only thing Ronda Rowsey has is her presence in
Speaker 4: her name. This is the only that's the only thing
Speaker 4: she has as the only reason she's anything in WW.
Speaker 4: But a match that I would like to see with
Speaker 4: Ron and it is Ronda and Shanna because I think
Speaker 4: that has the potential plus the storyline to be very good,
Speaker 4: because they could build a really good story off of
Speaker 4: those two just from their backgrounds.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean they had a bit of a
Speaker 2: face off a few weeks ago and some kind of
Speaker 2: multi woman match. They never actually had put a hands
Speaker 2: on each other, but there was a moment there where
Speaker 2: they you know, you were wondering if they were going
Speaker 2: to and the crowd reacted to it because we haven't
Speaker 2: seen it. I mean the question though, is, you know,
Speaker 2: I would imagine that we have Bianca, or rather Ronda
Speaker 2: Rowsey as the baby face and Shana as the heel.
Speaker 2: But with people starting to kind of wear thin on
Speaker 2: Ronda Rowsey, you know, you do wonder as her opponents
Speaker 2: continue to progress, are people going to continue to stick
Speaker 2: with Ronda? You know, it's people. I honestly I think
Speaker 2: that if wwe at some point in Ronda's contract, whether
Speaker 2: it's this time, next time, I don't know how long
Speaker 2: it is, not turn her heel, it's a big missed
Speaker 2: opportunity like Ronda Rowsey as a heel I would get
Speaker 2: on board for because there's so much you could pull from.
Speaker 2: And I think naturally she has an arrogance about her
Speaker 2: that she has to try to suppress as a babyface,
Speaker 2: and it bleeds through and it's you know, it's really
Speaker 2: hard to hide who you truly are, and I think
Speaker 2: Ronda would just thrive in that, talking about the fans
Speaker 2: and how you guys don't understand who the hell I am.
Speaker 2: I came here. I didn't have to come here. There's
Speaker 2: so I mean, it's it's right there, and for her
Speaker 2: to have to go out it doesn't feel natural. A
Speaker 2: lot of times with Rowsy she could be a lot
Speaker 2: looser on the microphone. It would be I think, a
Speaker 2: much more fun ride with Ronda as a heel champion
Speaker 2: who's got this entitlement about her coming from MMA, and
Speaker 2: she's still calling herself the baddest woman on the planet
Speaker 2: yet has hasn't When when's the last time she, you know,
Speaker 2: actually proved that, you know, it's been how many years?
Speaker 2: So I'm tired of her calling herself that ripping off
Speaker 2: rowdy piper because you weren't creative enough to come up
Speaker 2: with something original. I just I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 2: get on that rant. But I guess I already am.
Speaker 2: So anyway, Ronda Rousey is just a I mean, I
Speaker 2: want to I want to see her heel and then
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a lot more fun. So all right, yeah,
Speaker 2: let's move on another Women's Championship match. Here, Bianca Belair
Speaker 2: and Carmela. I'll take a breath and ask you what
Speaker 2: you think about this.
Speaker 3: I have Bianca retaining, you know, the quality of the match.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like I want it to be good.
Speaker 3: But and Carmela is not bad in the ring by
Speaker 3: any means, but Carmela is.
Speaker 4: I think she's great at what she does with her character,
Speaker 4: and she's annoying and she does it very well. But
Speaker 4: I think her entering skill is covered up by a
Speaker 4: lot of of her squealing. And I know that sounds
Speaker 4: like a joke and like a really funny thing, but
Speaker 4: I've been completely serious. Like she I feel like you
Speaker 4: could actually see a lot of her move set and
Speaker 4: her skill in the ring if she wasn't squealing as much,
Speaker 4: because sometimes when I'm watching it's kind of hard to
Speaker 4: focus on what she's doing because of how much she's
Speaker 4: like squealing. So if she does that in the match,
Speaker 4: I feel like it'll be okay. And Bianca will do great,
Speaker 4: and she's always great in the ring, but I think
Speaker 4: like the overall quality is going to be okay.
Speaker 3: Like I don't expect it to be like some A
Speaker 3: plus match, but.
Speaker 4: I do like that Carmela is in this match because
Speaker 4: only because I wanted Ripley and Bianca add a better
Speaker 4: or a bigger and better pay per view and then
Speaker 4: money in the bank. I think they could save that
Speaker 4: for you know, Summer Slay and WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: I mean it is it could be a Wrestleman in
Speaker 3: you match.
Speaker 4: So I am glad that Carmela kind of stepped in
Speaker 4: for a little like detour for Bianca to do. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I have Bianca attaining, and I think it'll be an
Speaker 4: okay match, Like, I don't think anything special will come
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my my bars low here too, simply limited by
Speaker 2: the fact of Carmela's ability, uh in the ring. I've
Speaker 2: said this, and you know, I'm not trying to be
Speaker 2: disrespectful Carmela as a person. I'm sure she know, she's
Speaker 2: really nice whatever. She's married to Corey Graves. But from
Speaker 2: a professional standpoint, I look at her and I feel
Speaker 2: like she's a Diva's era leftover. I just she she's
Speaker 2: got She's very focused on her looks, and that's like
Speaker 2: her whole gimmick, which is like as shallow as it gets,
Speaker 2: Like that's as I mean, that's that's as paper thin
Speaker 2: as it gets as a character. Is that you're you know,
Speaker 2: I'm the most beautiful woman in w w E. It's
Speaker 2: like that that's it. That that's all, that's it. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, and inside the ring, she feels like a
Speaker 2: kind of a little bit high, a tick higher of
Speaker 2: a more skilled Bellatwin, like she's a third Bellatwin except blonde.
Speaker 2: And I just I don't think she's super skilled in
Speaker 2: the ring, and I think, well, Bianca's I think extraordinary
Speaker 2: in the ring. She's going to be capped by what
Speaker 2: Carmela can do. And so I'm with you. I think
Speaker 2: if I'm going to do out a ten ahead of time,
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be a five out of ten, maybe
Speaker 2: six at a ten. In terms of quality of the matchup. Again,
Speaker 2: Bianca retains another super predictable outcome, but that's the right outcome. Again,
Speaker 2: just because it's predictable doesn't necessarily mean it's bad and
Speaker 2: it's the wrong thing to do. I'm all for predictability
Speaker 2: if it's the right thing, but in this case, I
Speaker 2: mean the match quality. I'm not suit like you said,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you put Carmela and Bianca together
Speaker 2: versus Ronda and Italia, what one's going to be more
Speaker 2: of in terms of just wrestling only, what one's going
Speaker 2: to be more entertaining. I would imagine Ronda and Italia,
Speaker 2: but it's kind of a toss up in a way.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd like to see Pianca and Ronda, I
Speaker 2: mean face off against one another. That would be a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Maybe that'll happen at some point. Although
Speaker 2: you know I've said this before, I don't know if
Speaker 2: anyone is taking me up on it. With Ronda Rousey.
Speaker 2: I'm not going back to the match itself, but just
Speaker 2: to say that, Ronda Rowsey, maybe we should play a
Speaker 2: drinking game where every time she adjusts her tights, will
Speaker 2: take a drink, right, because I and you'll be drunk
Speaker 2: within five minutes. Because I don't know what it is, like.
Speaker 2: I understand she wears the athletic gear right and you should,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. It's maybe she purposely has that.
Speaker 2: It's like a nervous tick or something, or they're just
Speaker 2: riding up her backs. I don't know, but it's super
Speaker 2: distracting every time she Like if she did it once
Speaker 2: or twice in a match, it's like, okay, she's just
Speaker 2: adjusting her gear, but it's seriously like every ten to
Speaker 2: fifteen seconds she's like, you know, adjusting this and that,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, then get gear that fits. You
Speaker 2: don't need to make I don't know. So now that
Speaker 2: I've made you think about it, now that's all you'll see.
Speaker 2: But I can't. I don't know. Did you notice this, Like, well,
Speaker 2: Ronda's just like constantly fussing with her gear.
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: I think it might be like an involuntary and I'm
Speaker 4: being completely serious right now. I think it's an involuntary
Speaker 4: reaction because in the MMA, in the UFC fights that
Speaker 4: she has done, and any UFC fights actually, like with
Speaker 4: the women who are the shorts, they do that. So
Speaker 4: I think it is an involuntary reaction, like she's so
Speaker 4: used to doing it because they do it, they do
Speaker 4: it in the ring, So I hear you, But I
Speaker 4: think I think it's more of just like an involuntary act.
Speaker 2: I don't even think she's self aware. She's just maybe
Speaker 2: it is. It's just kind of like a comfort thing.
Speaker 2: She just wears this gear and it's just I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's just muscle, you know, I don't know, muscle memory.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I used to play basketball and every time I go
Speaker 4: past a trash can I you know, I do a
Speaker 4: little fade away, So it might.
Speaker 3: Be like that.
Speaker 2: It could be yeah, I mean, except it doesn't make
Speaker 2: you feel uncomfortable if you're watching in the audience to
Speaker 2: see somebody like pulling out their crotch every five minute.
Speaker 2: I mean, like seriously, like it's it's it got to
Speaker 2: the point. I remember the last time I watched her
Speaker 2: on the I think it was Wrestlmania Backlash, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: like she has to be doing this as some kind
Speaker 2: of like inside joke, like is there really a drinking
Speaker 2: game behind this or something, because it was just unbelievable,
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know. So now I've made
Speaker 2: you think about it. Guys, I'm sorry you can't unhear this,
Speaker 2: and now you'll be watching for her pulling at her tights.
Speaker 2: So all right, well, Bianca, I think we both agree,
Speaker 2: is going to retain the match quality doesn't really you know,
Speaker 2: shock us here. I think it's just gonna kind of
Speaker 2: be Beanca retains and that's it. You know. The one
Speaker 2: thing I'll say about this though, with Bianca, she's kind
Speaker 2: of in the same boat as Randa where the crowd
Speaker 2: I think is not souring, but just they're not at
Speaker 2: the level i'd say, you know, if they want them
Speaker 2: to be a ten. The crowd's like a like a
Speaker 2: six or a five of where they want them to
Speaker 2: be Bianca has Maybe you're are you sensing this too
Speaker 2: with the crowd, that Bianca's just not getting that like
Speaker 2: overwhelming response she was last year. She's just she's kind
Speaker 2: of like, I don't know, mildly supported.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I you can definitely hear the crowd
Speaker 3: has changed a little bit, and not in like a
Speaker 3: bad way. They're just you know, a little quieter now.
Speaker 4: But I think everyone is kind of thinking the same thing,
Speaker 4: like they're waiting for change, and they want to see
Speaker 4: her character change. I want to see her character change.
Speaker 4: I know you've said you would like to see her
Speaker 4: character change, and I think she would, you know, do
Speaker 4: really well with being a heel, and I think everyone
Speaker 4: is kind of expecting that at this point, and they're
Speaker 4: seeing the same old, same old, and it's kind of
Speaker 4: getting it's it's just getting very repetitive. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: think the crowd has definitely gotten a little bit quieter
Speaker 4: and quieter over the past month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to put it. They're not booing,
Speaker 2: they're just not as excited to see her. They're just
Speaker 2: like you're yeah, it's not that they're booing yet, although
Speaker 2: they are on the road to booing her if they
Speaker 2: continue on this path, like they're going to eventually actually
Speaker 2: turn and actively boo instead of just you know, apathetically like,
Speaker 2: oh yay, hey, Bianca's here, isn't that cool? And people
Speaker 2: like mm? And eventually that'll just that will turn. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they either need to double down and actually
Speaker 2: give her a microphone, which and stop having her sit
Speaker 2: at ringside for every match and not you know, put
Speaker 2: a put a commentary headset on. I mean, she's been
Speaker 2: at ringside it's like her second home lately and just
Speaker 2: sitting there and not speaking. So anyway, all right, let's
Speaker 2: move on to the third women's match, which, by the way, guys,
Speaker 2: there were I just realized this. Three women's matches and
Speaker 2: three men's matches that are on the show. I can't
Speaker 2: remember the last time it's was that even So that's cool, U.
Speaker 2: We have the women's money in the Bank ladder match.
Speaker 2: Lacy Evans, Alexa Bliss, Live, Morgan Rare, Keel Rodriguez, Oscar Schatzi,
Speaker 2: and Becky Lynch. Hmm, yeah, I almost took this, but
Speaker 2: I have my pick, but you you go first. Grace.
Speaker 4: All Right, this is a difficult one because I'm a
Speaker 4: huge Lynch fan, and but as in you know, recent months.
Speaker 3: I've become like, you know, I've been become a fan
Speaker 3: of Live Morgan.
Speaker 4: I think that she has excelled in the ring, you know,
Speaker 4: after her whole feud with Becky Lynch. I think it
Speaker 4: really shot her into like a different atmosphere. And I
Speaker 4: mean she's not quite there yet.
Speaker 3: On the mic, she's still little stuff on the mic.
Speaker 4: She's better than she was, but I want to see
Speaker 4: her get the briefcase. I think it'd be a really
Speaker 4: good moment, and I think that she deserves it after
Speaker 4: I mean her performance.
Speaker 3: As of late.
Speaker 4: But I can also see Becky Lynch winning it. So
Speaker 4: it's hard for me, like I want Becky to win it,
Speaker 4: but I also want Live doing it.
Speaker 3: So to throw back to you, what is your prediction
Speaker 3: on this?
Speaker 2: This is yeah, there's as you were talking, I thought
Speaker 2: about three scenario and I had a very confident answer,
Speaker 2: and now you're screwing up. I I okay, So my
Speaker 2: initial reaction before you gave yours was I think Becky
Speaker 2: Lynch is gonna win it's the most uninteresting predictable answer.
Speaker 2: But there's good reason to believe that Becky could win.
Speaker 2: Because Becky Lynch winning okay, it's you know, it gets
Speaker 2: her kind of in back into the title the title picture,
Speaker 2: which she just came out of. And I think people
Speaker 2: got a little tired of her holding the belt, much
Speaker 2: like they did with Charlotte, you know, like, what's your
Speaker 2: identity without the belt? Do you know who you are?
Speaker 2: And I think Becky had the same kind of problem.
Speaker 2: But I think here here's the I'm gonna stick by
Speaker 2: my guns even if it's not going to work out here,
Speaker 2: but here's the argument for Becky Lynch keeping it or
Speaker 2: in winning the match. I think she wins, and then
Speaker 2: what you'll see is Becky Lynch not cash in for
Speaker 2: a while until we get towards WrestleMania season, where then
Speaker 2: she goes and cashes in on Ronda Rousey, and you know,
Speaker 2: then you could have Ronda versus Becky. We get the
Speaker 2: we finally get the one on one that we've all
Speaker 2: been so desperately deserving of. And now I know Becky
Speaker 2: Lynch is a heel. I understand that, and I think
Speaker 2: it was more fun with Becky as a baby face
Speaker 2: with Ronda as the the the well kind of a heel,
Speaker 2: I mean by de facto. But even if it's not,
Speaker 2: I think that one on one with Ronda and Becky
Speaker 2: didn't happen, and it should happen. Now. You could say, well,
Speaker 2: Becky win the rumble, and you're right, she could win
Speaker 2: the rumble. But with Becky holding that briefcase, it creates
Speaker 2: I think more interest than anyone else that when you
Speaker 2: look at star power anyway, she's easily the biggest star
Speaker 2: in this matchup now, So I'm sticking with Becky Lynch.
Speaker 2: The other thing is okay, live Morgan definitely. They constantly
Speaker 2: tell us that she has not captured the women's championship,
Speaker 2: and that's true. Alexa Bliss, you have somebody that I
Speaker 2: think has been sorely misused from an in ring perspective,
Speaker 2: not even used that all in ring over the last
Speaker 2: two years. I mean, she's been he's sitting on swings
Speaker 2: and sitting in therapy offices and just not showing up
Speaker 2: for weeks and months on end, you know. So I
Speaker 2: think that in ring Alexa is you know, better than
Speaker 2: most people give her credit for and having her get
Speaker 2: shot right back into the women's title picture. It's been
Speaker 2: way too long for Alexa Bliss. There's an argument to
Speaker 2: be made there the rest of them. Raquel too soon, osca.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a whole lot of push for that.
Speaker 2: Shatzi again a little too soon, So that's my pick.
Speaker 2: Becky Lynch, Mmm, what the hell? Matt, Sorry, don't listen
Speaker 2: to me. I tell this everybody, and I told this
Speaker 2: to you last time. Don't do it. Stay by your guns. No, nope, nope, nope, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: stick by your guns.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not going to agree with you.
Speaker 2: Good good, No, I am banning you. I'm no, I'm
Speaker 2: I will not accept the change. So because I have
Speaker 2: burned too many people, So go Yeah, to see.
Speaker 3: Something else that could happen. Not because that story of
Speaker 3: Becky lunch cashing and waiting for Ronda, Holy crap.
Speaker 4: I would love to see that, because you know, the
Speaker 4: match I want to see the most is Ron versus
Speaker 4: Becky at WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: I want to see that. That's what I'm waiting for,
Speaker 3: you know. So yeah, yeah, But what.
Speaker 4: If Becky wins it and does a failed cash in
Speaker 4: and then her character justums, I want to see that.
Speaker 4: I mean that would like I mean, I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: want to see it, but I think it would be.
Speaker 3: Like really good for her story right now. Okay, but
Speaker 3: if I have to pick one.
Speaker 2: Matt, Sorry, sorry, it's.
Speaker 3: Struggling with this match.
Speaker 4: I thought I finally had an answer and then you
Speaker 4: had to go and see.
Speaker 2: Well what that's what you did to me. I almost
Speaker 2: switched my answer to Alexa Bliss, so that because of you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, Well, well.
Speaker 4: I'm going to say Live Morgan wins. I want Beculyn,
Speaker 4: I want Beculans to win. I think Live Morgan will win,
Speaker 4: and I do, I do want to see.
Speaker 3: Her get the briefcase. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4: I think the fans are so behind Live, like on
Speaker 4: Twitter and like all the social media, like Live has
Speaker 4: a big.
Speaker 3: Fan base right now, and I think WW sees it.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say Live climbs up the ladder and
Speaker 4: grabs up your briefcase.
Speaker 2: I think the fans will be super behind that, like
Speaker 2: you said, because fans have seen her for years now
Speaker 2: be abused and be uh you know, turn yeah, like
Speaker 2: and how many times would in the riot squad was
Speaker 2: she the one taking the pinfall, laying looking up at
Speaker 2: the lights. How many hundreds of times did she lose matches?
Speaker 2: I mean, like, so she's paid her dues. People are ready.
Speaker 2: I think Live Morgan is. I like her on the microphone.
Speaker 2: I like her the way she speaks. She doesn't speak
Speaker 2: too quickly. She seems confident in the ring. She's not insane,
Speaker 2: but she's definitely good to very good. You know, I
Speaker 2: have no no problem with Liv Morgan. She is a
Speaker 2: she is a veteran. I would say at this point,
Speaker 2: you know, I'd say, after she's been there with five
Speaker 2: six years, she's got some experience under her belt. So
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Now does she actually
Speaker 2: successfully cash in? When does she cash in? Is it
Speaker 2: on Bianca? Uh? You know and Carmel? I mean who knows?
Speaker 2: But yeah, Live Morgan, there's certainly a case. And I
Speaker 2: think that the fans would love that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think it'd be a really good moment, Like I
Speaker 4: think it would genuinely be like a very good moment
Speaker 4: like and I think the crowd would actually go crazy
Speaker 4: if she won it, and it could be.
Speaker 2: Like it'd be that feel good kind of Daniel Bryan moment,
Speaker 2: even though there's no championship on the line, and kind
Speaker 2: of like the underdog that deserves it, that's been here
Speaker 2: and overlooked for a while.
Speaker 3: I get it her partners time after time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, how many times she's got to
Speaker 2: be the record holder for that. But Becky Lynch, the
Speaker 2: one thing I'll say about that is you have you
Speaker 2: have something in mind there, you have something good there
Speaker 2: where Becky Lynch, if she loses, I have been advocating
Speaker 2: for this of seeing her spiral down into the abyss
Speaker 2: of just like how far can we push Becky's character,
Speaker 2: not to actually bury her, but her character's depression, Like
Speaker 2: where what's the end game? Like I want to see
Speaker 2: her lose just to see the character evolution, Like does
Speaker 2: she come out like with no music one day and
Speaker 2: just like kind of have mascara running down her face,
Speaker 2: looks like she hasn't showered, like starts to become depressed,
Speaker 2: like almost like a you know, I don't know, like yeah,
Speaker 2: like exactly just kind of just doesn't defeated. But there's
Speaker 2: an end game, like and what is that end game?
Speaker 2: You know? So maybe they'll explore that, maybe they won't.
Speaker 2: But if you're right. If Becky, if Cash she cashes
Speaker 2: in and fails, then they're clearly on that road and
Speaker 2: they have an idea of where they want her to go.
Speaker 2: But you're right, I mean Live Morgan is the feel
Speaker 2: good choice, no doubt. So all right, it's time for
Speaker 2: the Men's money and the gladder match. I'll ask you
Speaker 2: do you want to take this first or do you
Speaker 2: want me to answer and give you my prediction because
Speaker 2: this is this has also got a little bit of
Speaker 2: a tough a tough choice here.
Speaker 3: So you don't come up with some crazy story for.
Speaker 2: Me to change a go and you're not allowed to
Speaker 2: change it after I tell you mine.
Speaker 3: Okay, well we'll see.
Speaker 4: Okay, right off the bat, I'm not to talk about
Speaker 4: anyone else. It's saith breakin' Rawlins, no one else.
Speaker 2: Yep, no, I actually concur with that. And now now
Speaker 2: the other the runner up is Drew McIntyre. And the
Speaker 2: reason I say that is because he, as we all know,
Speaker 2: he's going to be main eventing the clash at the Castle.
Speaker 2: I think it's a September the with with Roman reigns.
Speaker 2: And now just because he doesn't win, this doesn't mean
Speaker 2: he still can't find a way to get to Roman
Speaker 2: in a tournament, in a number one contenders match, just
Speaker 2: by you know, I don't know Brady at In peers
Speaker 2: for the match whatever that he's been Romans ducking him.
Speaker 2: There's a way to get to Drew and Roman if
Speaker 2: he doesn't win this match. But yes, Seth with this,
Speaker 2: this is to me, this is Seth rollins match to win.
Speaker 2: And if he doesn't win, I think, I genuinely think
Speaker 2: people in the audience, even though he builds a heel,
Speaker 2: are gonna be pissed because everyone else in this matchup
Speaker 2: outside of Drew doesn't make sense honestly. I mean, you
Speaker 2: have mad Cat Moss. I mean, sorry, no chance, Riddle.
Speaker 2: I think he's number three as a choice. He has
Speaker 2: a it's a live it's on life support that he
Speaker 2: has a chance. But it's there, Sam, He's ain't sorry none, Omas, sorry.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's just he'll he'll be the big guy
Speaker 2: in the match that yeah, I mean just there's just
Speaker 2: no way. I mean, I just they're not gonna make
Speaker 2: him look like a fool. They'll book him strong, but
Speaker 2: he has no chance of grabbing that briefcase. There's just
Speaker 2: it's just not. It's too soon, you know. I think
Speaker 2: he has a World Championship run and maybe in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three or twenty twenty four, not right now. Seamus
Speaker 2: been there, done that. He's kind of a snooze fest.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Seamus is boring to me. I understand. He's
Speaker 2: a tough guy, he's a veteran, he has modified his
Speaker 2: his character over the years. His character just doesn't excite me.
Speaker 2: It's just there. He's an asset to the company, but
Speaker 2: he's not exciting to me. Drew McIntyre has a date
Speaker 2: with destiny with Roman reigns and Seth Rollins is by
Speaker 2: far the favorite to win this, and he should win
Speaker 2: this because it's gonna be fun to think about. Wait
Speaker 2: a minute, Seth Rollins, who does he cash in on?
Speaker 2: Is he gonna cash in on Roman? After the Last
Speaker 2: Man Standing at SummerSlam? What does he do? Does he
Speaker 2: wait until, you know, after a WrestleMania again, like, and
Speaker 2: we're eventually gonna get to Rollins and Rains. And I
Speaker 2: actually think Rollins should be the one to end the
Speaker 2: streak for Roman. I actually think I want That's what
Speaker 2: I it's I don't At this point, I've lost all
Speaker 2: hope that it's gonna be some upstart young NX tea
Speaker 2: guy that you could springboard his career off of. That'd
Speaker 2: be a great ideal scenario. Right now, there's nobody on
Speaker 2: the roster that that that fits that bell. Seth Rollins
Speaker 2: hasn't hauled held the championship in a long time. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of history between Roman and Seth. They didn't
Speaker 2: follow up after last year's Survivor series where he beat
Speaker 2: the holy hell out of Seth left him laying and
Speaker 2: everyone just accepts it, and there was no follow up
Speaker 2: to that. And so yes, Seth should be the one
Speaker 2: to defeat Roman reigns with that championship cashing in on him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 4: I you know, another thing about this match, though, which
Speaker 4: is slightly terrifying because I don't want to stab him,
Speaker 4: but I can see them doing.
Speaker 3: Something like this is if Sammy won and then they
Speaker 3: just held the briefcase hostage.
Speaker 4: And like you know, Paul Hammond was like controlling him
Speaker 4: and stuff, and I really.
Speaker 3: Can see them doing something like that, And I really.
Speaker 2: Opened don't put it on in the universe, don't, Sean McMahon.
Speaker 3: We thought he was gonna end up.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right. Yeah, like because because sadly, it's sad
Speaker 2: that we have to think like this, but there's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's possible. I could see. You're right, like where he
Speaker 2: he wins it and then you know, Sammy says he
Speaker 2: promises he's not gonna cash it in on Roman and
Speaker 2: then Paul hate like you said, yeah, he just kind
Speaker 2: of locks it away. Yeah, oh no, no I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I even said I shouldn't have put it
Speaker 3: into the universe, but.
Speaker 4: You know, I so what do you think of the title?
Speaker 4: Like do you like the titles being combined?
Speaker 2: I I would have if they executed it the way
Speaker 2: that we that they should have, meaning, yeah, that okay,
Speaker 2: they unified it, even though there's a brand split. I
Speaker 2: mean that that's a whole other thing. I mean there's
Speaker 2: no brands win anymore. It's quietly gone away. But we
Speaker 2: if they executed it where okay, they unify it and
Speaker 2: then Roman actually appears on Raw and smack Down more regularly,
Speaker 2: which was supposed to be the plan, and that the
Speaker 2: exact opposite is happening. I think I would have liked
Speaker 2: it if they actually kept the championship in the eyes
Speaker 2: of fans more instead of just having Roman, you know,
Speaker 2: take it and go hibernate wherever he is, you know,
Speaker 2: and good, you know, props to him. He's getting paid
Speaker 2: millions of dollars with less dates, less wear and tear
Speaker 2: in his body. Good for him. I do the same thing.
Speaker 2: But when you're looking at this from a fans perspective,
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, well, they unified the belts. He
Speaker 2: barely defends it. He's not unsmacked down. He's on like
Speaker 2: one out of every four smackdowns. He doesn't do house shows,
Speaker 2: and nobody is talking about challenging for the championship because
Speaker 2: Arouno championships other than the US and Intercontinental for the
Speaker 2: men's side anyway. So yeah, like I don't hate the idea,
Speaker 2: I just don't like the execution of and the results
Speaker 2: after a few months now of like, okay, well they
Speaker 2: took the belts and essentially just like you know, buried
Speaker 2: them temporarily.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, yeah, I agree with you. I
Speaker 3: agree with you on that, but I think I want them.
Speaker 3: I want to see him split now, Like I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want it was a fun idea at first,
Speaker 4: and like Roman holding on the belts, but like you said,
Speaker 4: it just just that he's gone and you don't see
Speaker 4: the belts, like you don't even see them. And I
Speaker 4: honestly don't think Raw is like suffocating like without a
Speaker 4: belt that much.
Speaker 3: I mean, they need a belt, but I.
Speaker 4: Think they're doing pretty well on their own. But I
Speaker 4: want to see them split at some point. And it
Speaker 4: makes me wonder, like with this whole money in the
Speaker 4: bank match happening in the contracts, like what do the
Speaker 4: contracts say, like inside the briefcase.
Speaker 3: Like what if they say for one belt and like
Speaker 3: they go on.
Speaker 4: The story and like, oh, we haven't updated them, and
Speaker 4: it looks like it's actually for one belt, and you
Speaker 4: know you can actually only challenge for one belt. So
Speaker 4: what if Rollins gets the briefcase and he opens it
Speaker 4: and sees that it's for the Universal or the ww Championship,
Speaker 4: Because I I could see them Rolin's having a championship
Speaker 4: and then I want to see Drew with a championship
Speaker 4: two at some point, so.
Speaker 3: Like they split it. Ron's can have the belt for
Speaker 3: whenever he wants it, Summer slam, ros mean whatever.
Speaker 4: And then you can still have Drew when the other
Speaker 4: one at the clash of the Castle.
Speaker 2: I have in concept, I have no problem with that
Speaker 2: taking the belts and putting them back on the each brand,
Speaker 2: so each brand has a top belt to compete for.
Speaker 2: But again, when they tell us that summer at WrestleMania, hey,
Speaker 2: this is unifying. That means to bring together, even though
Speaker 2: I understand symbolically they're two separate belts. But they told
Speaker 2: us that the championship, not the physical title belts, but
Speaker 2: the championship is now unified. That means it's one. So
Speaker 2: you're right. I could see them doing that though, where
Speaker 2: like people aren't thinking like this and they're just saying, oh, well,
Speaker 2: you know, he has those two belts, so he's he
Speaker 2: technically the money in the bank. No one read the contract.
Speaker 2: He thought it was for both. It's only for one.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, wait a minute, WrestleMania unified them, So.
Speaker 4: I mean you could also do in a way of
Speaker 4: like it was Paul Hammon's and Roman Rings idea. So
Speaker 4: he doesn't like lose the universal, like he's always had
Speaker 4: the universal, so what if.
Speaker 3: It was their idea?
Speaker 4: So it's like he does, he loses one, but he
Speaker 4: still technically has the other one, so he's still the
Speaker 4: champion of that one, so he doesn't lose the streak.
Speaker 3: So what if they came up with the idea.
Speaker 4: Of like, Okay, well if I lose that belt, fine,
Speaker 4: but I still have this belt where I still have
Speaker 4: my streak on it, you know, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That I could see them doing that. I mean, they
Speaker 2: have so many large holes in storylines now anyway, it's
Speaker 2: not that far of a reach to say that they
Speaker 2: would do something like that. And you know what I
Speaker 2: would be. I would actually be okay with letting that
Speaker 2: slide simply for the benefit of getting a top championship
Speaker 2: back on Raw and Seth as a champion, and then
Speaker 2: you can have Roman hold that Universal championship until drew
Speaker 2: A clashed the Castle. But I just have no faith
Speaker 2: and I really think sadly that they're gonna go with
Speaker 2: Rock and Roman for the Universal Championship or unified whatever
Speaker 2: at WrestleMania, and I don't want the belt involved at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, would you you would you want the belt
Speaker 2: involved with Rock and Rollman at WrestleMania.
Speaker 4: I mean no, because then you would know the outcome,
Speaker 4: like the Rock's not going to win the belt at
Speaker 4: least you don't think so, like, because he's so busy,
Speaker 4: he's not going to come back to WW for a run,
Speaker 4: so it would make it obvious and make it very predictable.
Speaker 4: And I think that's a match that you don't want
Speaker 4: to be predictable at all, because that match, when it
Speaker 4: does happen, will be fantastic, and you don't want any
Speaker 4: inclination of what is going to happen in the slightest.
Speaker 4: So no, I don't want the belt in it, just
Speaker 4: because I don't want it to be predictable like they do.
Speaker 3: With a lot of their matches. So yeah, no, no
Speaker 3: belt in that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, no, I'm just trying to see if there's
Speaker 2: an argument to be made that I'm not thinking of that.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it actually be better with the belt. I
Speaker 2: can't think of one other than the marketing, like Vince
Speaker 2: would love to say the very superficially, Oh, it's for
Speaker 2: the championship, that makes it bigger, And when you take
Speaker 2: five seconds you're like, well no, actually, wait a minute. No,
Speaker 2: Rock is a Hollywood star, He's here for one match only.
Speaker 2: Why would I want the belt involved? Which would just
Speaker 2: totally exploit the outcome of the match, like you said,
Speaker 2: and it would also mean that Roman's champion for another
Speaker 2: what like six months, whatever the hell it is, you know,
Speaker 2: And I think people are ready to move on. I am,
Speaker 2: and I was. I was like one of the last
Speaker 2: holdouts of like, no, it's kind of going good. I'm ready,
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, okay, this has been a fun run.
Speaker 2: It's been now almost exactly two years at Wrestlerman or
Speaker 2: SummerSlam twenty twenty when he came back during the pandemic
Speaker 2: era and beat I think it was braun Strowman and
Speaker 2: the triple threat or he made it a triple threat
Speaker 2: or something and spared him and won the belt. So
Speaker 2: to me, I think that you have a fan base
Speaker 2: that's gettingless. They're ready. It's like, okay, can we give
Speaker 2: can we give give somebody the victory like seth rollins
Speaker 2: so we can get back to kind of regular, like
Speaker 2: regular scheduled programming here because everything is being withheld with
Speaker 2: Roman reigns everything, and it's just for a guy that's
Speaker 2: not there much anymore anyway. It's it's a burden. It's
Speaker 2: a burden on fans, and I'm sure that the guys
Speaker 2: in the back are like, hey, like he's not here
Speaker 2: a lot. Can we can we compete for a championship?
Speaker 2: You know? Like so, I don't know, but anyway, I
Speaker 2: think we both agree Seth Rollins wins this match. If
Speaker 2: you had to pick a second, you know, if you
Speaker 2: were like, okay, if Seth doesn't win, who who would
Speaker 2: be your second?
Speaker 4: I don't want to go to my samisay predictions that's
Speaker 4: your second one. I feel like, okay, hold on, I
Speaker 4: think it'll be Seth and Riddle.
Speaker 3: I think it'd be Seth and Riddle climbing up the ladders.
Speaker 4: Maybe even Drew, but I think it'll be Seth and
Speaker 4: Riddle just because they've also had a little thing going on,
Speaker 4: you know, the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: I mean, they've had a couple of run ins. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think climbing up the ladders that are to the
Speaker 3: last two will be the same.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying geez see, even my subconscious wants to say, see.
Speaker 2: You're you're suppressing, you're suppressing your urge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but actually, one thing I want to happen in
Speaker 4: this match, I will say I need all of them, Seamus, Madcap, Sammy,
Speaker 4: Seth Riddle and Drew be right when the match begins,
Speaker 4: gang up on Omas, throw him out of the ring,
Speaker 4: attack him for a good five minutes, and just leave
Speaker 4: him on the floor, and then they continue the match.
Speaker 2: I think I think that's going to happen at some
Speaker 2: point anyway, because Amas in a ring for a long
Speaker 2: period of time. He's not ready for that, and I
Speaker 2: think it would expose his weaknesses. So something exactly like
Speaker 2: that probably will happen. Well, he'll be like taking a
Speaker 2: nap at ringside after somebody attacks him, and he'll just
Speaker 2: be laying there. Maybe they'll have like a pillow underneath
Speaker 2: the ring he can kind of hang out, and then
Speaker 2: when it's time he'll come back into the ring and
Speaker 2: you know, people like, oh, my god, Amasa's back up,
Speaker 2: My god, what you know, the Nigerian giant, And you
Speaker 2: know he'll have a spot where he'll have his fingertips
Speaker 2: on the briefcase and you think he'll might have a chance,
Speaker 2: But it's not gonna happen. I mean, my second is
Speaker 2: Drew McIntyre, again an uninteresting pick, but if Seth doesn't
Speaker 2: win it, I think Drew is probably in second place
Speaker 2: to win this. So he can say to Roman you
Speaker 2: can't duck me any longer. I am going to cash
Speaker 2: this in on you. You just don't know when, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: I think that Drew has a case to be made here.
Speaker 2: I mean, they've been on the same show for how
Speaker 2: long and they have for the most part, not the
Speaker 2: entire time, but for the most part avoided one another.
Speaker 2: And I think that it would be a fun, a
Speaker 2: fun thing to do to hang that over the head
Speaker 2: of Roman Reigns and have him stressed out, you know,
Speaker 2: every week or every three weeks when he's there, have
Speaker 2: Paul Hayman comment on it. So I think Drew is
Speaker 2: a strong second, with Seth Rowlins still number one for me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would says it would it would be
Speaker 3: those three.
Speaker 4: It'd be Seth, Riddle, and then Drew. But I'm a
Speaker 4: stick with Seth and Riddle for the last.
Speaker 2: Even though Riddle doesn't make sense, Like no one's talking
Speaker 2: about this where Riddle just lost in a match where
Speaker 2: the stipulation against Roman was if you lose, you can
Speaker 2: never compete in a championship match as long as Roman
Speaker 2: Reigns is champion against you know, for his belts, So
Speaker 2: how does that work?
Speaker 4: I mean, so they just threw out there and then
Speaker 4: we're like, oh, yeah, Like we shouldn't have said that, because.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, they did. See that's the again, that's
Speaker 2: not that that's not thought through and it's not thinking ahead,
Speaker 2: it's thinking in the moment. And I think they're hoping, ah,
Speaker 2: fans will forget that not mentioned it, guys didn't happen
Speaker 2: because I mean they also knew that Riddle wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: win it, so they didn't really care. So yeah, but
Speaker 2: I just thought about that. I'm like, and they mentioned
Speaker 2: it like the very next week, and Riddle's like, I'm gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, get my vengeance and win the money in
Speaker 2: the bank. I'm like, but you just lost a match
Speaker 2: that you can't compete, So I don't know. It's one
Speaker 2: of those No, they won't explain it, they won't bring
Speaker 2: it up, it'll just never it didn't happen. So and
Speaker 2: so okay, we've gone through the whole card. So it's
Speaker 2: kind of wrap things up. Do you think there'll be
Speaker 2: any big surprise returns or maybe things were not thinking
Speaker 2: about that. Somebody can make an appearance anything like that.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's John Cena, Like you said, Bailey, did
Speaker 4: you say you think Bailey's gonna turn.
Speaker 2: I think there's a snow. I think i'd give it
Speaker 2: a small chance, but I think more likely she'll return
Speaker 2: on the next Friday Night SmackDown as the next contender
Speaker 2: for Rowsy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, I mean I would say, I mean
Speaker 4: there's a small chance John Cena shows up, But other
Speaker 4: than that, I can't really think of anyone that you
Speaker 4: know would be a surprise return.
Speaker 3: Do you have anyone else?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think John Cena is a small chance. I
Speaker 2: think Bailey's small chance. I also think there's a small
Speaker 2: chance of Roman Reigns himself appearing to interfere, you know,
Speaker 2: in the the tag title match. Maybe maybe I think
Speaker 2: that that's against small Would he interfere in the ladder
Speaker 2: match money bag ladder match? Maybe maybe he tries to,
Speaker 2: you know, pick somebody he doesn't want to face and
Speaker 2: screw them out of the opportunity. I mean, there's no
Speaker 2: rules in that match, so he could just outright interfere
Speaker 2: with no no, not worrying about being decute or anything.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's possible. I think Roman Reigns probably
Speaker 2: takes this entire event off. I don't think he's going
Speaker 2: to appear. But if you're gonna, you know, put some
Speaker 2: people out there. I think, like you said, Bailey Johnson
Speaker 2: and Roman Reigns have all small chances of appearing.
Speaker 4: Don't you think it's funny that we're talking about Roman
Speaker 4: showing up at a pay per view and he's.
Speaker 2: The It's that's how low and how far? That's how
Speaker 2: low the bar is, guys for how often we think
Speaker 2: our champion is gonna yelp here and defend his belt.
Speaker 2: He's defended the belt once, I believe once since he
Speaker 2: wanted it WrestleMania. Uh yeah, like two months ago, So
Speaker 2: that's how long. Yeah, the bar is very low. It's yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm ready. So all right, Well, I
Speaker 2: think that wraps things up. Did you have anything else
Speaker 2: that I'm not thinking about the questions or comments on
Speaker 2: the event?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not that I know of I do have.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard this for it's not
Speaker 4: really about the event, but it's a little bit about
Speaker 4: women's wrestling, a little a big thing in women's wrestling.
Speaker 3: If you want to, yeah, go ahead. So Sasha Banks
Speaker 3: in Naomi, I heard that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard this, but they it's
Speaker 4: it's reports are saying that they were show specifically was
Speaker 4: released like June tenth. But now higher ups are trying
Speaker 4: to smooth things over. So I guess higher ups meaning
Speaker 4: Stephanie now that she's in the CEO position.
Speaker 3: So I don't think hope is lost ship for Sasha
Speaker 3: being off of WWE.
Speaker 4: I think that if they are trying to smooth things over,
Speaker 4: there's a chance that she could be back on TV possibly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there's another reason why I think SmackDown has
Speaker 2: taken a big hit. I mean, Charlotte, Sasha, and Bailey
Speaker 2: all out. Yeah, I mean I did not hear that.
Speaker 2: It's also interesting too, like I mean, I so many
Speaker 2: outlets had reported all she's released, but WWE never made
Speaker 2: a statement I don't think, right, Like, they never publicly
Speaker 2: said yeah, they never put out the future endeavored statement
Speaker 2: that they put out for everybody. So that was the
Speaker 2: one thing. I'm like, oh, okay, well maybe they just
Speaker 2: don't want to say it, but she really, I mean,
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. You know. I think
Speaker 2: that whatever the issues may be, and they seem to
Speaker 2: be deep and they seem to be a long lasting,
Speaker 2: they seem to have something that has been going on
Speaker 2: for quite some time and multi layered, probably a feeling
Speaker 2: of disrespect the way they've creatively used her, you know,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And to be fair, though, Sasha
Speaker 2: has also been randomly out throughout her career for like
Speaker 2: months at a time with no explanation. She's had the
Speaker 2: most bizarre run over the last several years. It's it's fascinating,
Speaker 2: But I have no problem with that. I mean, if
Speaker 2: Sasha comes back and they you know, make amends and
Speaker 2: all is well, then cool. I mean, then that's no problem.
Speaker 2: They've they're able to bring back a star that probably
Speaker 2: was maybe aw bound or who knows, maybe whatever she
Speaker 2: wants to do. She's certainly got enough money I'm sure
Speaker 2: in the bank. No pun intended, but she definitely is
Speaker 2: is somebody that I think if she came back, the
Speaker 2: crowd would be like what like people would the pop
Speaker 2: would be huge because of everything everyone knows.
Speaker 4: They need to try really hard because she has a
Speaker 4: lot of star power and talent in WW in general.
Speaker 4: So I think I don't know what they're doing right now,
Speaker 4: but if they are trying to smooth things over, they
Speaker 4: need to try as hard as possible because SmackDown.
Speaker 3: And the women's division in general really needs Sasha in
Speaker 3: Naomi too. I mean I was Naomi singer on TV.
Speaker 4: So I think they need to get them back like asap,
Speaker 4: because not only does the SmackDown roster very much need them,
Speaker 4: but the women's division really needs needs them as well.
Speaker 2: Well, they don't have a they don't have a tag
Speaker 2: team division. They've never had a tag team division. They've
Speaker 2: had well yeah, they've had championship belts for a division
Speaker 2: that doesn't exist. Well yeah, the women's division, yeah division,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, no, no, but just the women's division in general.
Speaker 2: But I would like for the tag team to belts themselves.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have been nothing but a curse for
Speaker 2: w w WE. Outside of a few glimmers of hope.
Speaker 2: I mean even who was it, Naya Jacks and Shanna
Speaker 2: Beseler I think did actually credible job the Iconics for
Speaker 2: a hot minute were good, you know that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: But outside of that, most of the time they have
Speaker 2: not had a division. Most of the time they've had
Speaker 2: unopposed champions. I mean like they've had maybe one team
Speaker 2: or no teams in a division. So like either fifty
Speaker 2: percent or one hundred percent of the people in the
Speaker 2: in the division are champions. Mean, you do the math.
Speaker 2: But so I don't know. I mean I want to
Speaker 2: if they come back, I want them to quietly just
Speaker 2: put the tag belts aside until they have an established
Speaker 2: tag team division. They put the cart before the horse,
Speaker 2: is what they did.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and they also announced when Sash and Army
Speaker 4: left that they're gonna have a tag team tournament and haven't.
Speaker 4: It's been like a couple of months and they never
Speaker 4: said anything else about it.
Speaker 2: That's all you need to know. I mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not good. I mean, like I understand what they're
Speaker 2: trying to do, and they're trying to make them on
Speaker 2: equal footing with the men, and like I get that,
Speaker 2: but like you need to delay the groundwork. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't just create the championship and go oh, all
Speaker 2: is well, they're now seeing the problems with that. I mean,
Speaker 2: so they don't what they do with the World Rumble
Speaker 2: every year too, there's like twenty legitimate women in the
Speaker 2: event that are actually employed on a day to day
Speaker 2: basis by WWE, and then they always have those like
Speaker 2: ten women that come back from yesteryear that don't need
Speaker 2: to be in there anymore. Just to fill the thirty
Speaker 2: requirement of having a royal rumble. They have like you know,
Speaker 2: Leita come back and Summer Ray and like all these
Speaker 2: people from like fifteen years ago that can still halfway
Speaker 2: cut it in the ring. And it's like, this is
Speaker 2: an exposure of your of your own company not being
Speaker 2: able to create women's wrestlers and successful women's wrestlers. So yeah,
Speaker 2: they're not where they need to be. At the same time,
Speaker 2: you look back even just you know, five to ten
Speaker 2: years ago, and it's like, wow, what a difference. So yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, well that is I think I gonna do
Speaker 2: it for us tonight. And hopefully we didn't make you
Speaker 2: think about ron A Rousey's crotch too much and that
Speaker 2: we we maybe changed your minds and some things, and
Speaker 2: you know, definitely guys, tune in to Grace's podcast, the
Speaker 2: Evolutionary Wrestling Podcast. It's focus on women's wrestling, and we
Speaker 2: certainly spend a lot on that tonight. But Grace, do
Speaker 2: you have anything else to say before we close it
Speaker 2: out here?
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Speaker 3: So I really appreciate that a lot. And thank you
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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and go watch go watch Stranger Things. Anybody
Speaker 2: that hasn't already, for God's sake, no spoilers, Well we're no,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a heads up. Yeah, we don't want
Speaker 2: to know about anything. Because volume two, uh, the the
Speaker 2: part two for a Stranger Things season four came out today,
Speaker 2: so uh, we're all feverishly trying to finish that. And
Speaker 2: so yeah, so that's why I'm trying. I'm staying off
Speaker 2: social media. I'm like, I like scan even more carefully
Speaker 2: my feed because people put stuff out there. Yeah. So guys,
Speaker 2: if you haven't seen Stranger Things, I mean, you're you're
Speaker 2: missing out. I gotta say. You know, they're not paying
Speaker 2: me to say that, but yeah, it's it's it's good stuff,
Speaker 2: so alrighty well, thanks, thanks Grace, it's been a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. And enjoy the event and enjoy stranger things.
Speaker 2: Yeah you too, all right, have a good night too,
Speaker 2: all right bye.
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