1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show, Darcy. We're Darcy. Welcome back. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,919 How have you been, how's the baby? And how is 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,039 your lovely wife doing? 4 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: It's been good. I'm a little tired. Well, I got 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,079 the bags just growing under my eyes daily. But life 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,879 is good. I'm happy to see his little smile every day. 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,120 And wife is good, you know, just working away on 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,679 these stories I'm presenting. 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,199 Speaker 3: Awesome, awesome. 10 00:00:27,199 --> 00:00:33,119 Speaker 1: Well, so we're here to talk about this amazing, amazing documentary. Now, 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,719 before we get into it, you've been making documentaries in 12 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:37,679 the UFO space for what twenty years? 13 00:00:37,719 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 3: Now? How does a person end up doing that for 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:41,000 a living? 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't what I started off doing as a living. 16 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:51,200 I was working in IT support for a number of years. 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,960 I worked for corporations like Microsoft Game Studio. I worked 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,399 for Best Buy head office in Canada, and I was 19 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:06,560 like a max system admin and a Windows guy. But 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,920 you know, I created my very first conspiracy documentary. I 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,879 will say it was a blatant conspiracy documentary called The 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:23,040 Underground in twenty twelve, and like it took three to 23 00:01:23,439 --> 00:01:26,959 four years to make it. I published it on YouTube. 24 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:30,200 It blew up. It got like four million hits back 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,120 in the day, and I realized people are into this stuff, 26 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:41,400 and I've been slowly building more professional presentations that do 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:46,000 deep dives and prevent, you know, many facts as possible 28 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:50,519 in the stories that I present over the years. So 29 00:01:50,599 --> 00:01:52,000 now it's my full time thing. 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: I absolutely love that. 31 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,359 Speaker 1: I truly think it's a gift when you get to 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,799 make a living at what you truly love to do. 33 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,319 I mean, not many people get that opportunity in life, 34 00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:05,519 and I think that is just fantastic. 35 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:07,319 Speaker 3: So you have a new film out. 36 00:02:07,359 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: We watched the trailer at the very beginning of the 37 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:13,680 show and I watched the film, absolutely love it. It's 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,919 called Dark Alliance The Next Generation. So my question is, 39 00:02:18,759 --> 00:02:23,240 do you actually believe that there is a secret space programmer? 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,560 That there probably is and tell us just kind of 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,280 in a nutshell what the film is about. 42 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I've touched on my beliefs of there being 43 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:42,439 secret space activity, secret UOFO activity and NASA's endeavors alongside 44 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,400 military agencies, possibly intelligence agencies throughout the decades. So I 45 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:53,840 think there has to be some kind of secret space 46 00:02:55,240 --> 00:03:01,280 activity going on. With all that said, in this documentary 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,599 series that I've been presenting for the past couple of 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:11,199 years called Dark Alliance. I'm saying that what these people 49 00:03:11,319 --> 00:03:16,520 are explaining is true is most likely a LARP, live 50 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:23,599 action role playing, or purely entertainment because it's there's no facts, 51 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,879 there's no proof to what these people say. It's just 52 00:03:28,159 --> 00:03:32,120 spectacle and sensational sensationalism run rampant. 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: Now, before we get into the details about the film, 54 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,159 let's set up some of the characters. Do you spend 55 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:40,520 most of your time with two people, this gentleman by 56 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:43,800 the name of Tony Rodriguez and Chris O'Connor. 57 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: Who are these guys? 58 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:53,439 Speaker 2: So these guys have been surrounded by the Secret Space 59 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,080 Program I call it in the series the New Age 60 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:05,520 Secret Space Program Crew, which includes Cory Good, David Wilcock, 61 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:11,479 Michael Sala, you know, Emery Smith, all of these guys. 62 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:17,120 They really got their launchpad on Gaya TV, which, in 63 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:22,720 my opinion, promoting this type of stuff this as fact 64 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:28,319 or you know, real, is kind of like spreading delusion 65 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:33,199 on mass because they have a very large subscribership. But yeah, 66 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:39,639 these these people, Tony rod Riggs and Chris O'Connor, they 67 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:45,199 got their start, you know, almost a decade Ago and 68 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,360 Tony rod Riggs. We have pictures of him basically going 69 00:04:50,399 --> 00:04:56,439 to conferences where Michael Sala and the first sort of 70 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:03,759 famous secret space program astronaut Guy Chris So sorry, Corey 71 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:09,879 Good had his debut in twenty fifteen at a conference 72 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:10,959 in Mount Shasta. 73 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, and let me jump in here for people 74 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,360 that have no idea what Gaya TV is? What is 75 00:05:19,439 --> 00:05:22,199 Gaya what's its history? And you know, how long is 76 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,800 it's been? How long has it been around? And sort 77 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,439 of who is what is Guya's audience. 78 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question, and I kind of address 79 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,399 that when we made our first version, like our first 80 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,639 presentation in this docu series called Dark Alliance, which is 81 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,000 free on two B TV if people want to go 82 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,600 check that out. It's a two parter, and we interview 83 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,839 the former head of production at Gaya TV, Jay Widner. 84 00:05:54,759 --> 00:05:59,439 Jid Well. He is briefly in this too, because he 85 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,879 gives a bit of context surrounding the story of uh, 86 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,800 you know, character analysis of like Tony Rodrig's and other 87 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,240 people because he was there when they were coming in 88 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:16,079 to uh guy at TV Studios and launching their story 89 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:22,519 through that launchpad. But he explains the company as basically 90 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:27,319 when he was there, a startup that was basically a 91 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:37,439 spirituality uh and let's say conspiracy theory Netflix, because they 92 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:45,439 specialize in alternative health. They specialize in sort of spirituality stuff, 93 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:50,639 you know, alternative uh, you know, alternate to religion, let's say. 94 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:59,319 And then they have the alternate history, alternate you know, 95 00:06:59,439 --> 00:07:03,399 reality sort of presentation stuff with some of the conspiracy 96 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:09,720 theory offerings that they have, And yeah, that's where the 97 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:13,000 New Age Secret Space program really took off. 98 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: And is this a pretty big outfit, Like what would 99 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,279 you estimate their viewership to be or maybe the question 100 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:24,600 is what has been their height of their sort of subscribership. 101 00:07:26,079 --> 00:07:31,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they have per year anywhere between six hundred 102 00:07:31,399 --> 00:07:37,319 to five hundred thousand subscribers, Okay, And then they have 103 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:42,519 all of their hosts have their own sort of TikTok 104 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:50,079 YouTube channels, you know, Jimme Church and Christina Gomez and 105 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,279 you know, all these folks that have shows on their 106 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:59,560 kind of also murmur with the same folks that they platform. 107 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:03,560 And one point, you know, you could see in the documentaries, 108 00:08:03,639 --> 00:08:07,920 Jimmy Church was at all these conferences introducing these people 109 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:11,639 as the real deal, you know, like here, come here, 110 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,480 it comes David Wilcock with the most amazing stories. You're 111 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,560 gonna believe everything because this guy is the real deal, 112 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,399 you know. So sure, that's pretty much. They've got a 113 00:08:23,439 --> 00:08:27,920 sphere of influence and it includes their own network, but 114 00:08:28,079 --> 00:08:33,919 then all the hosts that they use and their platforms. 115 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,399 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, got it all right, So let's let's get 116 00:08:37,399 --> 00:08:38,120 back to the film. 117 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:39,879 Speaker 3: They're sort of a king maker. 118 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: This other figure in the film who I think is 119 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:46,519 more interesting than the claimants themselves, this doctor Michael Salah 120 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,360 is am I saying that, right, Salah Salah? 121 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And you spoke about him just a few 122 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:55,480 moments ago. Who is this guy? 123 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: You know, he's an interesting guy that's added a voice 124 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:07,399 to uphology and to let's say, the disclosure movement. I 125 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,200 don't fault him for having a presence there, and I 126 00:09:12,279 --> 00:09:17,639 really think that there is value in expanding to other 127 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:24,240 audiences this discussion. But he's published an amazing amount of 128 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:32,080 books that put a very very interesting spin on everything 129 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,679 that's going on in the discussion. And you know, things 130 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:42,720 that he's claimed that are absolutely true are the testimony 131 00:09:42,759 --> 00:09:47,039 of Corey Good, which now we know since Corey Good's 132 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,360 legal depositions. He said he made it up and it 133 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:56,320 was just a sort of intellectual property or entertainment IP. 134 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,039 He said that you know everything that Tony Rodriguez or 135 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,639 Chris O'Connor or any He kind of platforms these people, 136 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:15,759 and uh then books come out and he's stated that 137 00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:23,519 we've got you know, alien human bases on Mars where uh, 138 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:27,639 you know, joint programs are going on and we're also 139 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:32,919 fighting wars with the draco reptilians and space. He claims 140 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,840 that there's a base in Antarctica where the aliens live 141 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:45,919 right now, and you know that the all the major 142 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,320 governments and militaries know about that base, and you know, uh, 143 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:59,039 there's basically he becomes a person to go to when 144 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,919 you want to know who the aliens are and what 145 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,600 their motives are and what they're doing around our planet. 146 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,159 And I think there's a stark contrast between somebody like 147 00:11:11,279 --> 00:11:16,919 him that's speaking in the public and somebody like you know, 148 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:26,639 let's say Ryan Grabes who saw an object knows that 149 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:32,960 our militaries are interrupt interacting with UAP or uofos, But 150 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,200 you know, he would never go as far as to 151 00:11:36,279 --> 00:11:41,320 say you know who's piloting piloting the craft and YadA, YadA, YadA. 152 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,600 When we get into this territory, it becomes a bit. 153 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:50,759 Speaker 3: Wu, but not in a good and not in a 154 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:52,840 good way, more like bullshit WHU. 155 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:59,799 Speaker 2: I would say, trust me, bro wu, because there's no proof. 156 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:03,840 How how are you like? They present it as if 157 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:06,519 it is factual in reality, And I think it's a 158 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:12,840 bit dangerous because it spreads delusion and it may kind 159 00:12:12,879 --> 00:12:17,399 of mentally unseat some people that are trying to figure 160 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,399 out this reality or figure out what's going on. We're 161 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,879 waiting for the goods, right from some kind of official 162 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:29,440 release and eventual you know, documentation and so on and 163 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,879 so forth. But I think if aliens are here, there's 164 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,039 so far ahead of us that, you know, they're not 165 00:12:36,159 --> 00:12:41,080 really concerned about the things that these people speak about 166 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,080 as if it's gospel. 167 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 3: Sure. 168 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: And you know, when I was watching this thing, at first, 169 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:51,080 I was thinking, is are these people having some kind 170 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,879 of mental illness breakdown or whatever? But the more I 171 00:12:55,919 --> 00:12:59,360 watched it, the more I realized, this whole thing seems 172 00:12:59,399 --> 00:13:03,360 like a grip, like a business. So walk me through 173 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,360 how this actually works financially? These you know, these are people. 174 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 They're not just telling stories around a campfire. There's like 175 00:13:10,759 --> 00:13:15,240 a real economy behind this thing, with conferences and whatnot. 176 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: Walk us through that. 177 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very circular, right, And you know, you may 178 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,000 even say, you may even hear Stephen Cambian, who comes 179 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,120 up on a portion of the documentary. Some people may 180 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,159 have a reaction to that because he's a very strong personality. 181 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,759 But the circular sort of description that he says, which 182 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:46,399 I think is very appropriate, is a circle jerk. So essentially, 183 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,879 you have one major corporation platforming them that is probably 184 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:57,480 marketing one oh one. A lot of companies and advertisers 185 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,720 and stuff look for environments like that for you know, 186 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:10,120 this type of proliferation or marketing cycle. But when you 187 00:14:10,159 --> 00:14:18,919 see it happening with these guys that literally are providing 188 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,600 I think delusionary sort of presentations, it's not good long 189 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:32,480 term for you know, our society, our families, our kids. 190 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,480 I mean, it's like your brain has just fallen out 191 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,679 of your head because you're no longer you know, prescribing 192 00:14:40,799 --> 00:14:44,759 to the realities of life to some degree, right, So. 193 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,919 Speaker 1: It really is truly a circle jerk, And I mean, yeah, 194 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,120 it's the stuff's pretty pretty out there. 195 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:52,879 Speaker 3: I mean, think about it this way. 196 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: If we already have alien bases that we're manning on Mars, I. 197 00:14:58,159 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: Guess, I don't know. 198 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,799 Speaker 1: Maybe that's why Elon Musk has decided to refocus his 199 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,799 efforts from Mars to the Moon, because we already have 200 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:09,600 stuff there. But like, here's here's a great example. So 201 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:16,399 there's this device called the DEEMS device, the Divine Evolution 202 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Electromagnetic micro Singularity Device. It sounds I don't know, something 203 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,080 maybe from from Ghostbusters. 204 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: Explain to me what this thing is. 205 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 2: Well, apparently it's a rod with a crystal or kind 206 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,000 of like a stone taped in a sort of little 207 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:42,240 pyramid on the end of it, and you know it 208 00:15:42,679 --> 00:15:47,000 heals people. But this is one of chrys Chrys O'Connor's 209 00:15:47,039 --> 00:15:54,000 devices he sells on his website, and there's no health facts. 210 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:59,039 There's no you know, approval through a government agency. There's 211 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:06,279 no papers that have done to review its effectiveness to 212 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:11,960 treat things like cancer or you know, spirit which alignment. 213 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,360 I think it's a few hundred dollars. I'm not quite sure. 214 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:20,639 I've never bought one, but that's the sort of thing 215 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:27,000 I mean, like you get into with these this side 216 00:16:27,039 --> 00:16:31,879 of ufology, you get into sort of the crystal hippie, right, 217 00:16:32,679 --> 00:16:36,080 you know group, And there's nothing wrong with that, you know, Like, 218 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,320 I think gems and crystals are pretty to look at. 219 00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:41,679 But when you're saying that it's going to heal some 220 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:45,679 kind of major ailment, you should be getting a professional 221 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,120 to look at at it in a hospital setting. I 222 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,639 think that's that's where it gets dangerous. 223 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: I would agree that definitely gets dangerous. 224 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:56,559 Speaker 1: I mean, listening to how you describe it, it sounds 225 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,759 like something they might have pulled from an Indiana Jones film. 226 00:16:59,799 --> 00:17:05,920 It just smells smells of a grift. So I love 227 00:17:06,279 --> 00:17:11,119 how you interview these two folks. What was it actually 228 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:16,160 likes sitting in your chair across from these two people 229 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:20,079 who are telling you that they spent twenty years in 230 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,960 a classified space program and had their memory wipe. Walk 231 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:28,640 us through what that was like and what's going on 232 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,640 through your head while they're telling you this. Because the thing, 233 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,880 I'm the thing I was really impressed with was you 234 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,519 were keeping a straight face during the whole thing. 235 00:17:37,599 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: I would have lost it. 236 00:17:40,079 --> 00:17:46,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's you know, I think they're nice guys. 237 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,640 I think that They're used to speaking to people that 238 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,839 believe in completely believe everything they're saying, and there is 239 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,559 a large group that do believe this stuff. To each 240 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:06,480 their own, right, But I just wanted to sit through 241 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:13,400 their storytelling and bring that to a broader audience outside 242 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,920 of the networks that usually promote their stuff, right, because look, 243 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,519 we live in a world of free speech. We live 244 00:18:20,559 --> 00:18:26,000 in a world of public record and the ability to 245 00:18:26,519 --> 00:18:31,200 have a conversation about sensational claims. And that's all I'm 246 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,359 kind of offering with my expose. 247 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:38,279 Speaker 1: When you're interviewing them, did you ever find yourself almost 248 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,240 believing them in any particular moment, or what's going through 249 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,039 your head is like, oh my god, this is just 250 00:18:44,079 --> 00:18:44,880 a load of bullshit. 251 00:18:46,319 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: No, I didn't believe any of it. 252 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: Of course, Yeah, I certainly certainly understand that. 253 00:18:53,079 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great, And I love the little kind 254 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,440 of like sound effects and cuta ways that you do 255 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:03,480 that just that just add it really reinforces the story 256 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:06,759 that this is truly some kind of grift. Now, one 257 00:19:06,839 --> 00:19:09,200 thing that we hear throughout the film or what these 258 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,599 two people talked about, is this twenty and back claim. 259 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,119 It comes out comes up throughout the film, explain to 260 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:20,599 someone what twenty in back means people that have never 261 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:22,000 heard it. It was the first time I had ever 262 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:22,359 heard it. 263 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it became famous through Cory Good who was 264 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:34,160 the premier secret space astronaut soldier guy that was launched 265 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,000 on Guya TV through a TV show that David Wilcock 266 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:43,759 hosted called Cosmic Disclosure. We cover all that in the 267 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:49,680 first Dark Lion series that we released, But essentially, you know, 268 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:55,680 you've got this guy that says, I remember being active 269 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:59,640 as an astronaut and soldier in space, fighting draco reptilians 270 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,920 and being a part of a galactic federation of good aliens, 271 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:08,960 that you are here to protect Earth with the Spear 272 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Alliance and stuff like that, you know, talking about tales 273 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,000 of being on Mars, on the Moon, alien bases, YadA, YadA, YadA. 274 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:25,680 But then you say, how can you prove this? Well, 275 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:31,119 here's the thing. The government, the military that's connected to 276 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,240 that has this high technology that allows you to do 277 00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:39,759 those missions in space for twenty years active service, and 278 00:20:39,799 --> 00:20:43,720 then when you come back to Earth, you finished your term, 279 00:20:44,599 --> 00:20:50,039 your tour of duty, your age regressed back into a 280 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,799 body of the original sixteen year old that you were 281 00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:56,759 before you left, and then you can live out your 282 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,880 normy life here on the planet. 283 00:21:01,519 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: But you've forgotten about us. 284 00:21:03,759 --> 00:21:06,799 Speaker 2: But you've forgotten mostly about it because they've done such 285 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,920 a great job of mind wiping you Men in Black style, right, 286 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:16,480 the movie Men in Black. So you know it makes 287 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:28,920 somebody like buzz Aldrin, Ryan Graves, you know, Senator Mark Kelly, 288 00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:34,839 look like they are nothing. They've done nothing with their lives. 289 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:41,200 They are boring, and these guys are the real deal. 290 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,319 They should be elected to office and be the president 291 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,960 of the United States. 292 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,079 Speaker 3: Of course, or worked for Elon Musk. Yeah, it's nuts. Now. 293 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: One of the things I loved about the very beginning 294 00:21:53,799 --> 00:21:56,640 of the film is this kind of stage effect that 295 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,079 you have where you make an observation that if your neighbor, 296 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,319 like sitting on the other side of the fence, your 297 00:22:04,319 --> 00:22:07,440 neighbor said some of these things, you'd be thinking, you 298 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,880 know what, my neighbor is effing crazy. But you know, 299 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,079 you put him on the stage, put him on a 300 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,359 stage with a crowd and hushed tones, and he's all 301 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,880 serious and stuff, and suddenly he's an international hero hero. 302 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: So what is happening there? 303 00:22:24,319 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's like the falsifiability test, and Richard Dolan 304 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:37,279 spokes speaks to it, and you know, it's essentially saying like, 305 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:42,319 if you have no proof, if you have no data 306 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,640 to provide to back up your claims, what are you 307 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:52,720 even doing? And you know, this subject is already tenuous 308 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:57,680 and hard for the normis and mainstreamers to take seriously, 309 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,480 right when you have whole outfits and circle jerks going 310 00:23:03,519 --> 00:23:09,039 on that promote all of this stuff very heavily to 311 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,200 the community in ufology, Let's say, Ah, it muddies the 312 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:21,720 waters and it really makes this subject not push forward 313 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,720 as easily, you know what I mean, It becomes a 314 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:34,160 trap in which you can i'd say more easily debunk 315 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,960 and look like I believe experiencers. I've spoken Travis Walton, 316 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,039 I've spoken to you know, many people that have said 317 00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:52,440 they've been abducted, and I believe there's stories right me too. 318 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,920 But the difference between their stories is that they say, look, 319 00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:01,839 I'm not quite sure where the these beings are from. 320 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,079 I don't know the whole story of what that background 321 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:12,559 is there. So they don't become like these prophets or 322 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:18,200 these like you know, cult leaders. After that, they just say, 323 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:22,079 this extraordinary thing happened to me, and you know, this 324 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,279 is what I can tell you about the event, right, 325 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:30,200 Whereas these people say, I know, you know these beings 326 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,039 are from this galaxy of Andromeda, or I know that 327 00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:42,680 these beings are from here, and they mean this, and 328 00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:46,519 they're part of a galactic Federation. The Galactic Federation is 329 00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:50,240 straight out of Star Trek, you know, and other popular 330 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,559 sci fi literature, and it was launched softly with the 331 00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:59,440 sort of Space Brothers era of eupology in the nineteen fifties. 332 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:06,400 So you know, that's it's hard to sort of say 333 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,359 if that is for sure a real thing to me, 334 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:15,440 I'm leaning that we can't say for sure that all 335 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,759 these non human intelligence are in league together, or you 336 00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:24,240 know that there is even draco reptiliance. You know, you 337 00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:32,079 have what's his name, Eric Davis. Yeah. Yeah. He was 338 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,079 saying at a conference, like a sort of mock congressional 339 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:42,480 hearing that was happening in Washington last year, that there's 340 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:47,559 certain phenotypes, right that have been recorded, and he specifically 341 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,440 says one that may appear kind of reptilian, but does 342 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:57,440 not denote that it's actually reptilian, you know, just like 343 00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:01,680 might have been a what people believe is a gray 344 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:06,000 but had some kind of description of a skin type 345 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,119 that looked like scales or something like that. Right, I 346 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,480 believe that, But then you've got people that go forward 347 00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:19,319 and say draco reptilians are here, like something out of 348 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:27,119 Jupiter Rising, the film with you know, the Watchhwski Family Maid. 349 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,279 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tony rod Riggs specifically. So this is 350 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:35,440 a man who claims he witnessed human sacrifice in space. 351 00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:39,119 If I were sitting across from him, you know, part 352 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,559 of me would be like, do I have empathy for him? 353 00:26:42,599 --> 00:26:44,519 Speaker 3: Do I empathize with him? 354 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: What was how did you feel about him? Like what 355 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,319 was your sort of personal take on him? Because he 356 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,319 actually comes off as a likable guy. 357 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a nice guy. Again, but you know, 358 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,319 I don't believe that he was part of this secret 359 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,799 space program, and I think the sort of human sacrifice thing. 360 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,079 Just so you understand his story a bit better and 361 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,920 maybe your audience people can go and look into it. 362 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,440 He has some books too, if people want to read those, 363 00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:25,039 they're probably pretty interesting. But essentially what his story has 364 00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:28,759 it kind of encapsulates a lot of the dark and 365 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,559 scary things about ufology that people allude to over the 366 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:42,920 years possibly existing. Right, So let's take for example, Jeffrey Epstein, right, 367 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:49,279 and human trafficking. That's a real thing, right, I believe, right, 368 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:53,880 And it's horrible, and there should be justice for the victims, 369 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,400 and these people should go to hell if there is one, 370 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,680 and they should be caught before then and serve time 371 00:28:01,759 --> 00:28:07,799 in some kind of incarceration in jail. What Tony's story 372 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,519 does is it pulls that sort of theme, and he says, well, 373 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:16,119 I was a slave in one of these sort of 374 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:25,519 pedophilic Illuminati rings and I saw human sacrifices happening at 375 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,319 that time. So it's like it's like harvesting something that's 376 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,759 out there that's very real that people have been talking 377 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:38,400 about for a long time, and then kind of putting 378 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:44,880 it into your super story. Because after he was part 379 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,559 of that, he ended up getting drafted in the secret 380 00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:54,200 space program and did kind of like facilities management, you know, 381 00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,720 in space, but was also a slave to a sort 382 00:28:57,759 --> 00:29:03,160 of gray reptilian group that were malevolent up there, and 383 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,240 you know, mind controlled him and raped him and stuff 384 00:29:06,279 --> 00:29:11,720 like that, like really scary stuff, right, So you know 385 00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:19,480 that's for some people, that is the best story that 386 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:23,839 could be told because it's so out there, it's so 387 00:29:24,039 --> 00:29:27,480 on the fringe. And and if if that's true, then 388 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,079 we're living in like the most evil version of the 389 00:29:31,119 --> 00:29:37,960 matrix possible, right, Sure, but there's no proof and that's 390 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,759 the problem. Yeah, And and I also like see that 391 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,000 a lot of these guys, like even Cory Good for example, 392 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:50,400 and we tracked this, you know, when he launched his character, 393 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,920 he was talking about all these things that are real, 394 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,839 you know. So in his character's story, he was taken 395 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,079 to an underground base. Underground bases have been covered pretty well, 396 00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,000 you know. UAP GERB has a great channel and he 397 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,480 presents a lot of data and evidence of multiple facilities, 398 00:30:13,519 --> 00:30:19,440 probably around just the United States alone. Then Cory Good 399 00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:24,480 was taken off world to you know, underground bases and 400 00:30:24,599 --> 00:30:29,799 space on different planets, the Moon, Mars, whatever. Another guy, 401 00:30:30,039 --> 00:30:33,519 Andrew Bossiago, said that he served in the secret Space 402 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:44,440 Program alongside Barack Obama. Andrew Bossiago is famous for launching 403 00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:48,480 his persona and his story on guy A TV. You know, 404 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,960 and he was also Jesse Ventura did a really fun 405 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,279 remember he had that reality TV show on I think 406 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:57,880 it was called true TV called. 407 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, and uh, Andrew Bassiago, you know, got 408 00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:10,200 caught in that TV show Red Handed kind of wine. 409 00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: So prom Jesse Ventura, you know, did his thing, like, 410 00:31:15,799 --> 00:31:18,960 you mean to tell me that you've been to Mars 411 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,799 and I've been in fought nom and seen my friends 412 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,400 die face down in the muck and you're fighting on Mars. 413 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,720 And he's alongside Barack Obama or Alongstar Brock Bama and 414 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,680 he says, well, where were you raised? Take us to 415 00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:38,240 the home where where you know you initially had these 416 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:44,279 programs abduct you and induct you into the secret space 417 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:46,920 program whatever. So in the show, they go to this 418 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,759 house in California and he's like, yeah, I lived right 419 00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:53,359 in that house over there, and Jesse Ventura goes, Okay, 420 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,240 I'm gonna go knock on the door. And he knocks 421 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:57,640 on the door. Excuse me, Can you tell me a 422 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,240 bit about the history of this house and whose own it? 423 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,039 And this old lady opens and it's like, well, my 424 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920 family has and it's been handed down for one hundred 425 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,960 for like over one hundred years or something. And Andrew 426 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,400 Vasiago's standing behind the film crew and they're like, when 427 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,240 did you say you lived here and he's like, oh yeah, 428 00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:20,359 So I mean it's like this is this is how 429 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,440 far these people will. 430 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,839 Speaker 3: Go right insane, insane. 431 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: I want to talk another talk about another guy that 432 00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:29,119 you spend a great deal of time with, Chris O'Connor, 433 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,160 whose real name I think you mentioned this earlier is 434 00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:37,200 Chris Fowler. So this guy goes from being the chairman 435 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,839 of the Palm Springs Film Alliance, like you know, he 436 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,599 has a true legitimate role, to someone who claims that 437 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,440 he spent sixty years on was it Saturn or Saturn's moons? 438 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: What was up with this guy? 439 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, he was more like a I guess a you 440 00:32:55,839 --> 00:33:04,039 and sort of he's keepers slash therapists in space and 441 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,880 people that were coming back from their tour of duty 442 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:12,519 on the twenty in backs or we're abductees and so on. 443 00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:18,880 He would do sort of counseling for and help them 444 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:24,400 spiritually and stuff in space. So he worked apparently within 445 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:29,079 the Galactic Federation and would communicate with the aliens and 446 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,839 they would sit, you know, kind of in that un 447 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:40,440 sort of style, big circular table and have diplomatic relations 448 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,240 and stuff like that. 449 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,359 Speaker 1: Amazing when I hear you explain all of this, and 450 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,359 of course hearing it in the film, it just it's like, Wow, 451 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,400 I can't believe people believe this shit. It's truly crazy. Now, 452 00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:59,640 someone in the film challenges one of these super soldiers 453 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,359 to a boxing match for ten thousand dollars, which really 454 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,880 isn't a lot of money if you think about it, 455 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,000 especially I guess if you're in a secret space program, 456 00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:10,519 I would hope that it pays a hell of a 457 00:34:10,519 --> 00:34:13,760 lot better than that. And he does this to test 458 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,599 whether he has superhuman abilities. And you know, I mean, look, 459 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,360 given that President Trump is apparently trying to turn the 460 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,199 White House lawn into a big fight venue for MMA, 461 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,880 maybe there's an opportunity here for them to do this 462 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,119 with a space for super soldiers. But yeah, tell me 463 00:34:33,519 --> 00:34:35,880 about this crazy challenge. 464 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. So Randy Kramer is this guy that said he 465 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,159 was also in twenty and back space program activities as 466 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:50,679 a super soldier, and he would he was a soldier 467 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:57,480 for fighting, you know, and off world, that he was enhanced, 468 00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,400 and that he would get into these space battle and 469 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,599 his limbs would get blown off. I asked a lot 470 00:35:03,639 --> 00:35:09,400 of people in the series. I think only a couple 471 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,760 questions can kind of get heard in the documentary, But 472 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,920 I asked people like Jay Widner who knew of him 473 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:21,000 and interviewed him with his time at Gaya TV, if 474 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,800 Randy Kramer's you know, penis got blown off in any 475 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:32,480 of these altercations because Randy made a claim that med 476 00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:35,800 beds are real. And when we talk about met webs, 477 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:42,320 medical beds like medits in short, and what that is 478 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,360 is a secret space program technology in which you lie 479 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,800 in and just like the movie Elysium or the movie 480 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,960 Prometheus or Star Trek, you know, they have biobeds in 481 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,719 that you lie in it and the bed does its 482 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,280 work to repair your whole body and you can just 483 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,360 live flawlessly for the rest of your life because these 484 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:13,119 med beds are just real, right, He said that, all 485 00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:17,760 these claims. And one of these people that's really spoken 486 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,960 out against these secret space program guys is Steven Cambian. 487 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:27,480 I mean, he does deserve a trophy, a badge of 488 00:36:27,559 --> 00:36:31,800 honor for calling bullshit on these people for a long 489 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,440 time now. And he was the one that challenged Randy 490 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:41,559 Kramer to a physical fight, you know, a sanctioned sort 491 00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:46,519 of legal fight in a ring with boxing gloves and 492 00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:50,800 all that Jazz and it never got taken. The offer 493 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:53,760 was rejected by Randy Kramer as far as I know. 494 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,480 But I think the whole point here just coming back 495 00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:05,360 to President Donald Trum, the really black mirror esque reality 496 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:10,639 that we're living right now with social media and this 497 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,840 kind of delusional thinking that's being spread in our society. 498 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:20,880 In twenty twenty six, we show in the documentary that 499 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:28,639 Donald Trump's truth Social account posted that they were rolling 500 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:34,800 out nationally medbed hospitals, and we show that in the 501 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:40,760 documentary that in this AI generated video, like it's pretty 502 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,519 pretty bad, they show med beds that look like they're 503 00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:50,559 pulled out of Star Trek or something, and they say 504 00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,559 that the people that sign up for these hospitals will 505 00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:55,800 get a med bed card and they can heal any 506 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,360 ailment and got to they have Trump speaking in AI. 507 00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:03,280 This is in the Randy Kramer section of the documentary, 508 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:12,440 and Truth Socials admin whoever's running Trump's account, deleted that, 509 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,599 but it was all over Twitter, like you know, you 510 00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:18,719 know how things get kind of like pulled from other 511 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,880 places and then posted. It was shared all over Twitter. 512 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:27,960 It spread like wildfire, and that is scary that this 513 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,880 sort of delusion is being offered to a very large 514 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,840 political base, and I'm worried that places like Guya TV 515 00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:52,119 that are launching these delusions are literally brainwashing large segments 516 00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:56,840 of the population to believe this stuff. So much so 517 00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:05,079 that there's obviously somebody running a major presidential social social 518 00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:08,519 media account promoting these ideas as true. 519 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,039 Speaker 3: It just blows me a blows me away. 520 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the infrastructure, like, is there 521 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,679 an organized infrastructure behind all of this or is it 522 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,159 more of a kind of self organizing ecosystem of grifters 523 00:39:24,159 --> 00:39:27,239 that sort of just naturally falls into place. 524 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, when I spoke to Jay Widner, the former head 525 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,159 of production at Gaya TV, he has a story that 526 00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:45,239 he's told multiple people other than me that before when 527 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:52,480 he was building the network at Guya TV, building their productions, 528 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,199 when he initially started with Disclosure. Sorry, yeah, Disclosure was 529 00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,559 was the initial series, and that it became Cosmic Disclosure 530 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,239 before it became Cosmic Disclosure, and Corey Good came along. 531 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,440 He said to me that he got a call from 532 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:19,119 essentially somebody from the CIA, Wow, who didn't you know, 533 00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:23,280 and identified that there's going to be some things that 534 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,159 are coming down the road and he's going to work 535 00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:28,800 with somebody that's going to cause a lot of problems 536 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:35,840 for him, and that was Corey Good and basically that 537 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,800 he had to just be a sword for this movement, 538 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,840 you know. And Jay was spooked by that because he 539 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,400 looks back and all the things that were sort of 540 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,119 spoken about in that phone call prior to them happening 541 00:40:53,199 --> 00:40:59,199 eventually came to reality. So I wonder, if you know, 542 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:05,159 part of all of this sort of entertainment empire and 543 00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:09,599 this very circular activity where all these people work together 544 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,119 and promote this stuff, is somewhat a sile. 545 00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: When I'm hearing all of this, When I'm hearing what 546 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,159 these folks are saying in the film, I'm like, you know, 547 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:22,519 to me, it totally smacks a bullshit. But then there 548 00:41:22,519 --> 00:41:25,559 were a couple of points where you're showing some of 549 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,400 these gatherings or seminars or whatnot, and people like standing 550 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,760 up in the audience and they're they're incredibly grateful for 551 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,079 what these folks are doing. Do you think that there 552 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:37,039 is a type of thing. 553 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: Yes, that one, Yeah, I was like, holy shit. 554 00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: So do you think is there a type of person 555 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,760 or personality who is most vulnerable to this or or 556 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,519 does it generally spread across the board. 557 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: Or were those people paid to do that? 558 00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: Ah, I didn't even think about that. 559 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's viral marketing, right. You go to 560 00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:11,360 there are some marketing and experience you would call it 561 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:21,239 experiential marketing campaigns where people walk through basically demonstrations and 562 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,960 acts at a mall setting, right, And I wonder if 563 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,400 that experiential marketing is kind of built into some of 564 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,599 these presenters audiences, right, like like you and I have 565 00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:39,239 been to contact, if you go see a conference, if 566 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,039 you go see a speaker there there are some moments 567 00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,760 of adelation where some people go to the mic and say, hey, 568 00:42:47,079 --> 00:42:53,360 like Graham Hancock, I really appreciate your work and before 569 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,360 my question, I just want to thank you for all 570 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,519 the things you've done before in your history and the 571 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,440 research you've done. That's fine, but they just like, some 572 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:10,239 of this stuff looks too weird, like to me, But yeah, 573 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:17,760 that's that is also me characterizing it, right my opinion, 574 00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:22,239 and I don't think like these people. But you have 575 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,760 to realize the other side to the coin there, Matt, 576 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,320 is that there's a large audience for this stuff, and 577 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,039 that's why you have that's why you have six hundred 578 00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:37,199 thousand paid subscribers to per year for a network like 579 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,360 Guya TV, because this is the type of content they want. 580 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,880 And when those conferences open up, they're there and they're 581 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,840 in the audience and they're losing their mind going zany 582 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,559 for these claims that are just completely unproven. 583 00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: Oh, I can promise the audience if I see you 584 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,079 in a presentation at you know whatever convention and I 585 00:43:57,119 --> 00:43:58,920 come up to the mic and I thank you for 586 00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:02,039 everything you've done, and I can promise the audience. 587 00:44:02,159 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 3: Darcy hasn't paid me a dime for that. 588 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: It is is definitely genuine, but it makes sense that 589 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,960 it almost sort of sounds like like what you would 590 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,199 see with a professional magic act, where you put these 591 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,960 shills in the audience to you know, to perform some 592 00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:20,000 kind of some kind of function. But yeah, that lady, 593 00:44:20,039 --> 00:44:22,719 I was like, oh wow, she's something's going on there. 594 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: I want to talk about him a shit. I'm horrible 595 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,000 with these names, is that right? 596 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm as hi am Ashad okay, because this guy is 597 00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,920 where the film takes a turn that I found really 598 00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:38,000 kind of unsettling, and for people don't know who don't 599 00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,679 know who he is, set set up, set up this 600 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,599 guy's story for us. 601 00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:47,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to remember all of his credentials, but 602 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:54,599 essentially he ran the Israeli's space Force for lack of 603 00:44:54,599 --> 00:45:00,239 a better word, for like almost twenty years. 604 00:45:00,639 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 3: And that's a fact. That's not like a rumor or 605 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,599 anything like that. That's verifiable. 606 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: That's a fact. And I was, you know, somebody I 607 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,920 spoke to about the sort of secret space program stuff 608 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,079 and the claims of a galactic federation. Uh, and that 609 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:23,760 being problematic was Dave Foley, Canadian comedian and accent on 610 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,719 the Yeah, great guy, but you know, I'm just saying, Uh. 611 00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:32,840 I had a personal conversation with him over the phone 612 00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:36,639 when I was making this documentary, and I hope he 613 00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:39,079 remembers that, but I said, you know, I don't believe 614 00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:43,119 his galactic federation and sort of secret space program stuff. 615 00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:46,679 And he said, well, you know, there is high mashed. 616 00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:50,840 And that ends up being the reaction for a lot 617 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,199 of these people that believe that there is some kind 618 00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:58,280 of proof. They always point to haunt hi mashed as 619 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:05,800 being the you know, pivotal moment of truth in terms 620 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,320 of uh proving that this this stuff all exists, and 621 00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:16,199 I reached out to him Ashed's team. They rejected any 622 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,480 comment on that. They don't speak about that anymore. Apparently, 623 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:25,599 and as one might note, especially with the Epstein files 624 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,360 being a big problem right now, Mausad might have been 625 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:36,360 connected to Jeffrey Epstein. Wow. OK. And and you know, 626 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:43,800 my worry is that heim Ashed's public proclamation about Trump 627 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,679 admitting that there's a galactic federation and you know that 628 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,639 there's all these aliens out there that we are in 629 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,519 league with and have been for a long time. I 630 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,679 worry that that is a psyop from a foreign intelligence agency. 631 00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:10,559 And look, I've said this before. If you look at 632 00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:15,320 Donald Trump's proclamations recently in the past two years, especially 633 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,280 leading up to him becoming elected. He went on Joe 634 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,400 Rogan and he said, I've spoken of pilots and credible 635 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,159 observers of UAP and UFO activity, and he says, I 636 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,400 believe them, but I don't believe that there's aliens for real, 637 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:36,480 ufolks like that is his stance. He is never validated 638 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,559 that there's a galactic federation of aliens and that there's 639 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:43,239 a secret space program in which we're in league with them. 640 00:47:43,679 --> 00:47:51,280 You know, so it's and then even Richard Dolan gives 641 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,159 flavor to that sort of story right in the documentary 642 00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,320 Dark Alliance The Next Generation, he basically said, it's like, 643 00:48:01,159 --> 00:48:04,559 if you start talking about Galactic Federation, you're basically coming 644 00:48:04,639 --> 00:48:08,239 from like a background that's very wu and there's no 645 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,880 proof to it, right, And he worries that maybe I'm 646 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,880 ashed is either being confused because he believes in ufology 647 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,920 and he might have access during his space you know, 648 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:32,599 service for the Israelis Space Administration. Let's say he might 649 00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:36,920 have had had access to the truth about UFOs, but 650 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:43,920 he's going three or four steps beyond that and saying, well, 651 00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:47,599 it must be this, right, and now he won't speak 652 00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:51,599 about that because either he can't prove it or he's 653 00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:57,960 changed his mind about that proclamation. Right. So that's pretty 654 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,880 much what we present in the documentary about that. 655 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it's just insane. 656 00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,320 Speaker 1: So, you know, we're we're living in a moment where 657 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,400 the US government has actually held congressional hearings on UAPs. 658 00:49:11,519 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 3: I think we've had what three of these. 659 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: You have credible whistleblowers that have testified under oath in 660 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,840 front of Congress. How does what you document in this 661 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,840 film relate to that more official conversation. 662 00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's just saying, like, the conversation is 663 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:39,840 very broad at this point, and people are capitalizing on 664 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,960 the idea that new folks are coming to this conversation 665 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,519 every day. I think P. T. Barnum said, a sucker 666 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,440 is born every minute, right. So when you have an 667 00:49:54,519 --> 00:49:57,480 environment where people are caught up in the awe and 668 00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:03,000 wonder of u UAPs and a possible reality of non 669 00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:08,400 human intelligence that has visited our planet, then they can 670 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:14,679 get taken or swept up in what these other people 671 00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:19,719 are saying and what these other entertainers and entertainment networks 672 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:27,039 are promoting. And so I guess you know, I'm basically 673 00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:33,199 just saying you've got to step back and observe what 674 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,760 all that activity is, and then also what all the 675 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,719 other activity is in Congress and sort of say to 676 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,400 yourself what seems more real? 677 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:44,639 Speaker 3: Right? 678 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 1: And do you do you think that the existence of 679 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:52,760 real congressional hearings with real whistleblowers does that make the 680 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,239 grifters more or less powerful? 681 00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 2: Makes them more powerful because people are then like like, Wow, 682 00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:04,800 who else is a whistleblower? And these guys go, hey, 683 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,119 I am, come listen to me, and then you're taking 684 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:16,400 down this other path, right, So that is a worry. 685 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:19,280 That is a problem if we're going to like continue 686 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,960 to keep this conversation legit, you know, where how are 687 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:31,000 people vetting their sources? How are people you know, trying 688 00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:36,599 to keep this a serious conversation that can be eventually 689 00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:42,880 adopted by mainstream science as a you know, real topic 690 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,119 of discussion in universities and in the mainstream media. 691 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I. 692 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 1: Think that what what these folks end up doing really 693 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,880 is they they poison the well. 694 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,159 Speaker 3: You know, this grift community. 695 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,400 Speaker 1: They're actually making it harder for legitimate UFO research and 696 00:52:01,639 --> 00:52:05,400 disclosure to happen. And of course politicians I would think 697 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,559 as well, if they think that you've got all these 698 00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:13,239 kooks running around saying these things, and they may be 699 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,840 less apt to want to have more hearing. So it 700 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,159 seems like it's really doing a disservice for the whole thing. 701 00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 3: I mean, you would agree with that, I would. 702 00:52:24,519 --> 00:52:28,920 Speaker 2: Say, so, yeah, that could be the net negative effect 703 00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:32,760 of some of this discussion that's happening. And also if 704 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,920 you look at what a lot of those thought leaders 705 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,920 are doing on social media, they're attacking anybody that comes 706 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:45,159 forward in that sort of mainstream congressional hearing setting. So 707 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,159 you know, you get Sala posting about luel Zondo being 708 00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:57,400 a disinformation agent, and you know, nothing he's saying is true. Meanwhile, 709 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:03,360 today I'll read verbatim what Michael Sala posted on his 710 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:11,760 telegram channel. Okay, Trump, the Galactic Federation and three i 711 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,920 at lists is world piece the key to disclosure. Trump 712 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:22,519 is going to, you know, apparently make proclamations that the 713 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,599 Galactic Federation is here, you know, and three iye at 714 00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:29,400 lists was part of that. So of course, you know 715 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,880 they offer this truth. But then anybody else that's coming 716 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,599 forward that might have been from some kind of government 717 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:43,679 official background, they're just seeded into the community to spread disinformation, right, 718 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:51,719 and you know, some will prop up others, but for 719 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,480 the most part they part of that circular discussion that 720 00:53:57,519 --> 00:54:00,840 we were talking about where they're all reporting each other. 721 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,159 A guy like this will look at, well, what is 722 00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:08,360 Stephen Greer saying about this? Okay, I'm going to post 723 00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:10,519 the same sort of thing, you know what I mean. 724 00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:16,159 So they're all part of that sphere, and Stephen Greer 725 00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,360 is at the very top of the gay a circus. 726 00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: He certainly seems he certainly seems to be one of 727 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,320 the things that I've always noticed about Greer, and I 728 00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:28,039 choose not to really talk about him much on the show. 729 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,119 Is again you have this guy who's going out and saying, oh, yeah, 730 00:54:33,199 --> 00:54:35,239 you know, these things are all here in peace, they're 731 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,760 from a planet p and all this kind of stuff, 732 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:39,719 and I'm. 733 00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:41,079 Speaker 3: Like, how do you know all of this? 734 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,519 Speaker 1: It's like, do you really know all this or are 735 00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:48,079 you just making this stuff up? Now, after two plus 736 00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:52,840 hours of conferences, super soldiers, boxing challenges, and a device 737 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,480 with the diamonds in it? What do you want people 738 00:54:55,519 --> 00:54:59,840 to walk away from this film? Actually walk away from 739 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,480 this film actually doing differently. 740 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:10,559 Speaker 2: Well. Definitely try to remain skeptical of some of these 741 00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:15,039 more sensational claims, because unless they can be proven, I mean, 742 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:24,519 the super conspiracy types that are already lost in this information, 743 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,320 they will say, you know, well, you know there's such 744 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,960 thing as sheep dipping and removing people's backgrounds and all that, 745 00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:39,960 And I agree that is something that's real. But if 746 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,960 somebody is taking advantage of your mind, they're going to 747 00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:48,960 use that very real thing, and they're going to use 748 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,440 it to their benefit to infuse or take advantage of you. 749 00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:58,320 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I couldn't agree more. So here's a question 750 00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,679 for you. 751 00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:02,639 Speaker 1: You have interviewed of people really great, really great interview 752 00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:06,559 I love your interviewing style and the storytelling that. 753 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 3: You do when you when you lead an interview. 754 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: If a genuine alien, not a guy at a conference 755 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,800 claiming to Channel one, but an actual extraterrestrial, a gray 756 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,480 or whatever, showed up and wanted to do an interview 757 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,480 on your show, your whatever documentary you're working on, what's 758 00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:27,960 the first question you would ask this? 759 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:34,119 Speaker 2: N Hi, why are you here? Yeah? 760 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 761 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: I think my question would be, was President Barack Obama 762 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,920 on the Moon serving on. 763 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 3: The on the Space Force? 764 00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: That's a That's what it would That's what I would 765 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:48,480 probably ask. But but anyways, so, Darsha, what's what's next 766 00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:51,559 for you? Are you going to dig deeper into this 767 00:56:51,639 --> 00:56:55,360 world or is there or is this this particular episode 768 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,920 the final chapter with this next generation? 769 00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm trying to build a story that's kind 770 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,320 of within the same vein, and it's based on a 771 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:14,440 murder that has happened, so it's a little bit darker 772 00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:20,119 and shows how far these tales can go in a 773 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:26,199 real way. And then I am working on another story 774 00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:31,119 with some scientists that want to sort of propose that 775 00:57:33,159 --> 00:57:36,400 maybe there's a different side to this phenomenon that people 776 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,559 aren't examining as closely as the extraterrestrial theory. So I'll 777 00:57:41,639 --> 00:57:43,639 kind of just say that those are my two major 778 00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:47,760 projects for the end of twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven. 779 00:57:48,719 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 1: I absolutely love that, and I love your work. And folks, 780 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,800 if you have not seen any of Darcy's just wonderful documentaries, 781 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,559 you're you're missing out. 782 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,679 Speaker 3: Where where can people find most of your work, if 783 00:58:00,679 --> 00:58:01,239 not all of it? 784 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,519 Speaker 1: Is it all on one platform like Apple TV, or 785 00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:04,599 is it sort of spread out. 786 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,519 Speaker 2: It's a little bit spread out. But if people want 787 00:58:07,519 --> 00:58:12,440 to see these stories in the Dark Alliance series, they'll 788 00:58:12,599 --> 00:58:17,039 see the links in the show description below. And you know, 789 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,760 one part of it is completely free to watch with 790 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,119 ads on two B TV. The other part is available 791 00:58:25,159 --> 00:58:27,639 on Apple TV, and I think eventually it's going to 792 00:58:27,679 --> 00:58:29,519 come to Fossom, but I just don't have a link 793 00:58:29,559 --> 00:58:34,800 for that yet. Then most of my films, if you 794 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:40,320 just search my name Darcy Weir on two B TV, Amazon, Prime. 795 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:47,079 You know YouTube movies. There's a bunch of free options 796 00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,800 on those platforms. Yeah, and I have a new podcast 797 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,480 if people want to just listen to something while they're 798 00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:58,880 driving to work or you know, pumping some heavy iron 799 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:06,400 or something. It's UFO Review and I'm just discussing reviewing 800 00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:11,039 previous themes and documentaries that I've made and the people 801 00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:15,800 have spoken to and the story behind making the film. 802 00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:22,119 And yeah, I'm doing something every month, so I'm on Spotify, 803 00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,920 Apple iTunes and all that stuff too. 804 00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:29,159 Speaker 3: I absolutely love it. Well. 805 00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: Well, Darcy, hey, you know if President Trump with this 806 00:59:32,239 --> 00:59:34,679 MMA fight that he's going to hold in front of 807 00:59:34,679 --> 00:59:36,760 the in front of the White House, if we find 808 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,320 out that one of these Secret Space super Soldiers is 809 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,320 going to be in the match, let's you when I. 810 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 3: Go to d C, that'd be great, dude. 811 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,559 Speaker 2: I'll bet he's going to win for sure. 812 00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,559 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Darcy. Well, thanks for joining us and 813 00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:52,599 looking forward to your next film. 814 00:59:53,719 --> 00:59:56,679 Speaker 2: Thank you, and I'll see at Contact in the Desert. 815 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,119 Speaker 3: All right. 816 00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,599 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Darcy, and we will see you 817 00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:00,360 again soon. 818 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,239 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.