WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:02.919 It's the Bill Cunningham Show. 2 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:06.679 Garry Teff Walker in for Willie once again on this Monday, 3 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:13.000 November eighteenth, twenty twenty four. Bengals fans still licking their wounds. 4 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:15.919 Don't try and picture that in your minds. After another 5 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:21.559 disappointing laws where the med and stripes came up short, 6 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:26.079 So we won't belabor that point. Let's get on with things. 7 00:00:26.280 --> 00:00:32.000 Our first guest today is a new rising media star, 8 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.840 the New Media thousands of viewers and followers, and the 9 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:40.560 author of the upcoming book Americans Anonymous, Restoring Power to 10 00:00:40.600 --> 00:00:44.600 the People, one citizen at a time. Do you feel 11 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:48.840 like this past election was your chance to exercise your 12 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.799 voice and your power as an individual in America? Or 13 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:56.520 is it all a smoke screen too? Are they're greater, 14 00:00:56.920 --> 00:00:59.600 darker powers at work. We've heard about the deep state, 15 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:01.840 We've heard of about draining the swamp and Donald Trump 16 00:01:02.200 --> 00:01:05.760 promising to do that again and some promising signs that 17 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:09.000 he may attempt it again, which is why they're The 18 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:15.079 other side is resisting so much against the cleaning out 19 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:20.200 of our federal government, shrinking in size and reducing the 20 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:24.200 effect that globalist powers have on you and me as 21 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:26.879 individual American citizens. 22 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:27.959 To address that in more. 23 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.319 Mel Kay for the first time on this program, I know, 24 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:34.280 the first time I've had a chance to interview her, 25 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:36.680 mel Kay, the star of the Melky Show and author 26 00:01:36.719 --> 00:01:39.319 of that book I mentioned, mel Kay, Good afternoon and welcome. 27 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:41.359 Thank you for having me. 28 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:42.400 Very excited to be here. 29 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:44.000 Yep, excited to have you too. 30 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:49.640 We've made many attempts and finally it came together. So 31 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:54.439 let me ask you first, mel Kay, when people talk 32 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:59.239 about the deep state and establishment Washington, are they really 33 00:01:59.280 --> 00:02:05.519 talking about something much greater than that, i e. The 34 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:12.520 globalist who want to eliminate individual sovereign nations like ours. 35 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:15.240 Yeah, they are talking about that. It's been a long 36 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:20.360 game plan originally really kicked into action by Kissinger and 37 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:24.319 Brazinski and Rockefeller and all of the people that were 38 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:27.560 involved in setting up the United Nations, the Crown as well, 39 00:02:28.080 --> 00:02:32.039 and it's been going on NonStop. I believe the first 40 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:35.319 two against America happened with the murder of JFK and 41 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:38.039 then the after math cover up of the murder of 42 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:41.000 JFK that is still being covered up to this day. 43 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.759 But it appears that right now where we are as 44 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.639 we have a captured nation where there's a global public 45 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.639 private partnership above our government that is really. 46 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:52.840 Far more in control than people believe or even know. 47 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:57.039 And they are treating America like we are, you know, 48 00:02:57.240 --> 00:02:59.639 like it's like they're the parent company of the United 49 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:01.840 States and we're just lucky they let us live here, 50 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:05.000 and they've gotten away with it for time after time. 51 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:06.360 And on the other. 52 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.400 Side, we have the Patriot Act, which I believe to 53 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:12.199 be the most unconstitutional thing that happens to this country. 54 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.680 And the Patriot Acts spawn in intelligence branch basically that 55 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:19.800 would be DHS and PSA and all of them that 56 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:23.319 they have no oversight whatsoever appears at this point, and 57 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.319 they seem to be working for the parent company. 58 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:27.039 Not for we the people. 59 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.120 They're actually spying on we the people and getting in 60 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:34.960 the way of our sovereignty as individual citizens more often 61 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.039 than not. And at this point, we the. 62 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:38.199 People have one shot. 63 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:42.599 I think God, I think brought us a respite and 64 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.560 we have some stand in the gears to the globalist 65 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:48.800 plan which is regionalized in governments above nation states. But 66 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:51.919 people have to get aware to what happened here, who's involved, 67 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.039 and what does that mean for the individual citizen when 68 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:57.479 it comes to your own backyard, Because though there's a 69 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:01.319 huge swamp in DC, this swamp is actually everywhere in 70 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:06.080 our country and has infiltrated us in all different ways, 71 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:11.280 but certainly in local governments, local contracts, all kinds of 72 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:14.520 things that have come through with this fraudulent Sustainable Development 73 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:17.439 goal model of the Genda twenty thirty. So we have 74 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:20.360 to be very aware that getting these people out of 75 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.759 our backyards is the first step to taking back our country. 76 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:28.279 Well, you talk about these people in the corporate Partnership. 77 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:29.639 At all. 78 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.399 This goes to the World Economic Forum, this goes to 79 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:39.399 the World Health Organization. Correct, all of those agencies and 80 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.959 those gatherings have peither when they gather in Stavos, they're 81 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:47.879 plotting the takeover of every sovereign nation and any kind 82 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:53.480 of autonomy that anybody in those nations may enjoy. And 83 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:56.959 as you mentioned, they've been largely successful up to this point. 84 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.000 But you mentioned the respite and Donald Trump started to 85 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:03.720 talking about draining the swamp in Washington eight years ago, 86 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.680 nine years ago, and did give us that pause in 87 00:05:08.759 --> 00:05:11.040 what had been planned. And I think what you're talking 88 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:16.360 about also speaks to the fact that for almost four years. 89 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:22.000 Many Americans, like myself and probably like you, we're asking, okay, 90 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:25.000 we know Joe Biden is not in charge of anything 91 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:30.279 these people. When you ask who's really in charge of 92 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:32.480 our of our federal government. 93 00:05:33.639 --> 00:05:33.959 Who. 94 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.519 Exactly, well, let's let's name let's name names. 95 00:05:40.000 --> 00:05:42.879 Okay, Well, for me, first and foremost, I think Larry 96 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.600 think of Blackrock as more power than the president or 97 00:05:45.639 --> 00:05:47.000 anyone else in the government. 98 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:47.639 At this point. 99 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:50.879 He is also on the board of the World Economic Forum, 100 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:55.199 the board of the Council Foreign Relations, and Blackrock is 101 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:58.920 the only firm that, it appears, works freely. 102 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.439 In communists China. At the same time. 103 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:06.920 Blackrock also controls most of public pensions and private pensions 104 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.240 of US citizens while investing all over the world into 105 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:13.399 all different kinds of things with our money. And nobody 106 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:15.399 seems to ever say, what is going on. 107 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:18.319 With Blackrock and Vanguard? How can they possibly control must 108 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:19.079 the entire s. 109 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.639 And p five hundred and all kinds of things around 110 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:25.560 this country? And then you go to the meetings that 111 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:30.800 they go to. Who goes Bill Gate, Jeff Bezos, Reid Hoffmann, 112 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.720 all these different people that you see at Davos, And 113 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.639 then they have you know, they just finished the cop conference, 114 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.279 which nobody talked about in the news. While you know, 115 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:44.480 we were celebrating our victory, they're there still planning for 116 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:48.399 Agenda twenty thirty, which is there's seventeen sustainable development goals 117 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:52.079 which all require full track and trade surveillance of basically 118 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:55.000 all of humanity from birth to death. And what they 119 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.240 talk about there also is making natural resources and resources 120 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:05.480 in general US surveiled and tracked and putting in ESG 121 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.839 scores and social credit scores. And the scary part is 122 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.240 that this model is already built in China. 123 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:13.240 And the question is who built it in China. 124 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:15.279 Well, there were a lot of people that are now 125 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:18.839 in behind the scenes in the Biden administration, including Eric 126 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:23.040 Schmidt formerly of Google, and many other defense contractors that 127 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:28.319 are very involved in the Chinese track and trace surveillance system. 128 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:31.439 And it's coming to really become very clear that a 129 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.879 lot of the executive orders that Barack Obama or Biden, 130 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.639 whoever you want to call, dropped right when Biden got 131 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.439 into office, were to get us back into Agenda twenty thirty, 132 00:07:40.519 --> 00:07:43.800 while Trump had pulled US out of the globalist oli 133 00:07:43.879 --> 00:07:49.480 our controlled organizations like the World Health Organization UNESCO, the 134 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:51.560 Immigration pack. 135 00:07:51.439 --> 00:07:52.879 The Paris Climate Accords. 136 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:55.839 Well, Joe Biden went all in and went back into 137 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.399 all those with all of our money. Hundreds hundreds of 138 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:02.959 millions of dollars go into these organizations that we never see. 139 00:08:02.759 --> 00:08:04.680 A dollar of. They're not even looked at. 140 00:08:04.759 --> 00:08:06.040 And then you can go all the way up to 141 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:09.079 the IMF, the World Bank, and at the top the 142 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:11.920 Bank of International Settlements, which nobody even really knows of 143 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.639 it has some kind of sovereign immunity like the Vatican, 144 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:19.560 and our twelve governors of our private federal reserve go 145 00:08:19.680 --> 00:08:20.399 there every. 146 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:22.519 Few months for meetings that we don't even know about. 147 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:26.759 So there is a group above our governments that not 148 00:08:27.079 --> 00:08:30.879 only need at conferences, but have long been planning to 149 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:35.960 regionalize control above our nations. So but Biden also put 150 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:39.440 in the Declaration of North America to get to a 151 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.159 place where they would erase our borders, as pro George 152 00:08:42.200 --> 00:08:46.399 Soros's open society plans since the nineties. And so we 153 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:48.879 have to be very aware that this is a long 154 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:51.279 game plan. And when Trump says they're not after me, 155 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:53.799 they're after you, and I'm in the way, the actual 156 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.120 truth is They're not after America, They're after the world, 157 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.799 and America is in the way, namely our constitution, our 158 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:02.720 Bill of Rights, in our DNA since seventeen seventy six 159 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:04.919 is a big problem for those that would like to 160 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.879 see the end of the nation state. So right now 161 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:11.240 America is not just fighting for America and our sovereignty, 162 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:14.120 our borders, language of culture. We're really fighting for the 163 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:17.200 world because if they can knot get America into this 164 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:23.200 surveillance system that is Agenda twenty thirty, then it collapses. 165 00:09:23.440 --> 00:09:25.720 So right now I see Trump's going to pull out 166 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.000 of the Paris Climate Court again. 167 00:09:27.080 --> 00:09:28.600 I hope he goes all the way up to pulling 168 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:29.600 out of the UN. 169 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:31.679 Which has been a complete and total failure and a 170 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:35.840 boondoggle and basically a money laundering black hole. All of 171 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.559 the agencies included in their tentacles, they're the same way, 172 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:42.759 and I really just think that their day is done 173 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:44.639 and we have to find a better way forward to 174 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:48.799 cooperate because also what's happened is that Biden has isolated 175 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.360 US from the rest of the world under the guise 176 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:53.279 of alienating Russia. 177 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:55.240 Instead, he pushed Russia and. 178 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.519 China and basically all the bricks nations together to go 179 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:01.879 faster than they were going dollarize. So a lot of 180 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:04.720 damage has been done, but nothing can't be undone. But 181 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:07.960 it's got to be the American people that are pushing for. 182 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:10.600 The right choices and making our voices heard. And luckily 183 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:11.799 we still have. 184 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.120 That opportunity because had Trump not won, I assure you 185 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:16.919 that they were not. They were going to pull what 186 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:19.840 they pulled on Alex Jones and everyone else on. 187 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:20.360 All of us. 188 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.159 They were going to silence all of us. So we 189 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:23.000 won that battle. 190 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:27.759 Talking to mel Kay on American Autonomy and Americans Anonymous, 191 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:28.879 which is an upcoming book. 192 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:30.320 When is the book going to be out mail? 193 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:34.919 The book actually came out last week and it's available everywhere, 194 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:37.639 including on the melkshow dot com website. And it's really 195 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.320 about how did we get here, how do we, you know, 196 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.399 get out of this, and what American citizens can do 197 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.279 because we've been convinced all these years that we have 198 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:46.799 no power. 199 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.600 Well that's the thing, and a lot of people really 200 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.840 believe that. Let's go back to some key points of 201 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:58.759 how these globalists have tried to usurp our individual sovereignty 202 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:02.360 in our country, sovereignty and the sovereignty of people all 203 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.360 over the world and that still have nation states that 204 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:11.120 aren't totally subjugated to these world powers. The COVID, the 205 00:11:11.159 --> 00:11:14.720 COVID lockdowns and the surveillance there that was part of this. 206 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:20.360 Are the non ending wars, aren't they also a great 207 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:21.320 component of this? 208 00:11:22.600 --> 00:11:25.679 Oh yeah, it's And a lot of this does. 209 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:28.679 Have to do with money, the international banking system, how 210 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:30.200 the IMF works. 211 00:11:30.759 --> 00:11:33.240 A lot of a lot of it is really. 212 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:36.240 Also ties back to the opening up of China and 213 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:39.879 sending all of our manufacturing and everything to China. 214 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:41.399 This was all a long game plan. 215 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:43.600 It's very hard to look back on history and not 216 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:46.879 think that both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, and Biden are all 217 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:47.360 in on it. 218 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:51.480 Well, I mean Nixon. Nixon helped open up China. We're 219 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.759 talking about fifty some years ago. And you mentioned you 220 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:58.000 mentioned Henry Kissinger exactly. 221 00:11:58.480 --> 00:12:04.039 Henry Kissinger, to me is the architect of what I 222 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:07.120 call the controlled demolition of America to subjugate us to 223 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.039 the global powers. And obviously he was recruited and worked 224 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:15.399 with Rockefeller and Brazinski, and a lot of what we 225 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:17.440 see now also came out of the project for a 226 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:21.320 new American century in two thousand with their militarization of 227 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:23.320 the world, eight hundred bases. 228 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:24.200 All over planet Earth. 229 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.440 That don't even want us there, while we're leaving our 230 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.840 borders wide open. And then the whole thing about the 231 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.120 illegal immigration. It's all over the world, not just here, 232 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:36.639 And it's a plan. It's a plan to make countries 233 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:41.840 unable to unite, unable to have shared values and cultures 234 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:44.919 and traditions and all the things that make nations states 235 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:47.960 so great and so awesome. They want to eliminate that 236 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:53.240 and make them all basically subjugated to this world curriculum 237 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:57.279 and this world vision of globalism and globalists and global 238 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:00.519 citizen try and they've worked very hard to get that 239 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:01.639 into our psyche. 240 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:02.399 But that's not. 241 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:06.519 Really the best way forward for individuals humans to have 242 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:11.200 their sovereign rights as individuals, including their inalienable rights, all 243 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.320 that has to go for their model, and I believe 244 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:15.000 that they're failing. 245 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:16.559 But we've got to be careful with the. 246 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:19.639 Biometric data and the track and trace surveillance that we're 247 00:13:19.679 --> 00:13:20.799 allowing on our phones. 248 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.279 People should be up at arms about the relationship. 249 00:13:23.720 --> 00:13:27.720 Between the NSA, the FI vised Nations A warrantless surveillance 250 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:31.519 on people. Everything that happened to Trump during a crossfire 251 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.759 hurricane is basically being used on anyone that is a 252 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.559 threat to this ideology that Brock brought in with fundamentally 253 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:41.080 transforming America. And now we have a shot. And it's 254 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.759 not about revenge. It's not about that. It is about 255 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:46.519 naming names and holding people accountable, because, like I said, 256 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:49.240 no one's been held accountable since nineteen sixty three and 257 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.639 the murder of JFK. And in fact, it appears that 258 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:54.440 most people get promoted when they cover up crimes by 259 00:13:54.480 --> 00:13:57.840 our government for reasons of national security, when that usually 260 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:00.799 just means our government committed crimes either again us or 261 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.879 against a foreign nation that they don't want us to 262 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:03.320 know about. 263 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.720 All right, two minutes, let's sum it up. 264 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.919 You say, you say that ordinary citizens, each of us, 265 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.440 has a role and can stop this. 266 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:16.799 How first and foremost, you've got to get back out 267 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.159 there in your local community. You've got to take stake 268 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.799 and claim in your backyard. And you're building, uh, you know, 269 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.279 some more vigilant groups. We the people need to be 270 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:32.440 the oversight committee of these giant contracts that come in 271 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.960 and whatever they're doing in your local school. 272 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.519 District and all of that. We can't leave it to Washington, 273 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:37.799 d C. 274 00:14:38.000 --> 00:14:40.759 We have to do it. I suggest starting freedom and 275 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.399 liberty groups all over the country that keep an eye 276 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.799 on how your local government. 277 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:48.000 Is spending your money. How much money. 278 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.000 Are they taking from the Bloombergs and the other people 279 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.240 pushing the climate stuff? You know, are they putting into 280 00:14:53.240 --> 00:14:56.080 your house smart meters? Are you asking where that data 281 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:58.279 is going? A lot of what's happening is a huge 282 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:02.639 data collection of American citizens without their knowledge to put 283 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.840 them into this track and trace surveillance system. It's also 284 00:15:06.120 --> 00:15:09.440 decentralizing as much as you can in your personal life 285 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:14.759 shopping local. You know, it's going after people locally that 286 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:18.279 are hurting your community, or if they're putting in surveillance 287 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:21.440 and bike lanes that surveil you, all this different stuff. 288 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:25.399 We have to really understand that privacy is being violated 289 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.879 on every level, and that is up to us to 290 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:29.679 change our behavior so. 291 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:32.639 That it's not so easy. You know, get apps. 292 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.720 That you don't use off your phone. You don't know 293 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.320 where that data is going, and they're creating. 294 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.120 Dosiers and part of the kids. 295 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:41.200 Going remote during COVID, because you were right, that was 296 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.679 the beginning was about creating basically, dossier is on our children. 297 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:49.840 So what we should be standing for is for individual liberty. 298 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.879 And definitely get back to a place where if the 299 00:15:52.879 --> 00:15:55.559 government is surveilling an American citizen, not only should they 300 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.360 know about it, but they should have to get a warrant. 301 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.559 Right And since nine to eleven and the treat Act, 302 00:16:00.639 --> 00:16:01.960 that has not been happening. 303 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:04.399 And in the last three years it's gone on steroids. 304 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:10.120 Americans, Americans anonymous, restoring power to the people, one citizen 305 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.600 at a time. Melkay, host of The Melkay Show, thank 306 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:15.639 you for being on the Bill Cunningham Show today. 307 00:16:16.279 --> 00:16:17.799 Thank you, sir. I really appreciate it. 308 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:18.399 You got it. 309 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:22.279 Gary Jeffman for Willie Beck. After the break half hour 310 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.480 with Mel Kay, I guess this is the deep State 311 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:30.759 hour of the Bill Cunningham Show today, Draining the swamp 312 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:34.159 and all of that, dismantling the deep state and the like. 313 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:36.960 I can think of nobody better to talk about this 314 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:42.159 than someone who has experienced the persecution of the deep 315 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:49.399 state himself. He is New York Times bestselling author born 316 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.639 in East Cleveland, Ohio. A graduate of both Case Western 317 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:59.960 University and Harvard University, and our guest now doctor Jeru 318 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:03.279 course the Jerome. How are you doing, and it's great 319 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:04.480 to have you back on the show. 320 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:07.559 Well, Jerry def it's great to be back on the show, 321 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.160 and thank you for that kind introduction. 322 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:15.720 Well, so Case Western Reserve and Harvard and these two 323 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:19.279 best selling books that were out in the two thousands, 324 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:21.400 Unfit for Command and the Obama Nation. 325 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:23.440 But when I first talked. 326 00:17:23.200 --> 00:17:28.680 To you, you had just gone through the gauntlet of 327 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:35.119 being threatened with possible persecution and prosecution over the fact 328 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:41.759 that you were a compatriot or a friend of Roger Stones. 329 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:46.160 And of course it was all about Donald Trump and 330 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:52.359 what we're called stolen Hillary Clinton emails, which of course 331 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.599 we had Hillary Clinton with, you know, thirty thousand emails 332 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:00.119 that were endangered by the fact that she was using 333 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:03.799 an unsecured server and then tried to you know, destroy 334 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:08.200 all those emails that she illegally had kept on a 335 00:18:08.279 --> 00:18:12.599 personal server. And so just real quickly, before we go 336 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.640 into dismantling the deep state and what President elect Trump 337 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:19.799 has promised to do and how to do it, just 338 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:23.519 let's revisit that a little bit. They had you basically 339 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:27.039 in the hot seat with the bright white light in 340 00:18:27.079 --> 00:18:29.559 your eyes, asking you to lie. 341 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.240 Is that correct? That's what you told me at the time. 342 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.480 It is correct. I mean I wrote a book called 343 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:41.440 kudetal on It, which he describes a whole fake Russian 344 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:46.440 collusion investigation. I've actually written thirty books since twenty two 345 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:47.119 thousand and four. 346 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:48.440 Wow, and. 347 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:53.839 Them all Investigation thought I had to tie to Julian 348 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:57.640 Massage I had shared with Roger Stone, and that would 349 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:02.200 have made the Russian collusion investigation against Donald Trump. 350 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:03.400 They would have the. 351 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:06.720 Piece of information they needed to get Donald Trump. Now, 352 00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:09.960 I did not have a tie to Assage, but they 353 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:12.960 were saying that they would bring me. The FBI threatened 354 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.599 to bring me before a jury in Washington that would 355 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:18.920 put me in prison for the rest of my life. 356 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:21.559 Or I could take a plea deal and say that 357 00:19:21.640 --> 00:19:28.079 I had lied to the FBI Moller Investigation because I 358 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:30.599 wanted to hide the tie I had to Julian Massage 359 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:35.319 to protect President Trump and Roger Stone. Well, I thought 360 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.200 about it. I concluded, I've told them I was not. 361 00:19:38.759 --> 00:19:42.680 I could not imagine myself standing before God and a 362 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:46.279 judge and swearing to a lie to keep myself out 363 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:49.359 of prison. So I said, I reject your plea deal, 364 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:51.519 might as well get ready to put me in prison 365 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:54.759 the rest of my life. I'll go, but I'm not 366 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:56.359 going to lie to save myself. 367 00:19:56.440 --> 00:19:57.319 And by the way, that. 368 00:19:57.240 --> 00:20:00.519 What they did, they did never indicted me because they 369 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.160 couldn't get me to break and take that plea deal. 370 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.559 They closed the Muller investigation and they declared it was 371 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:10.079 a failure because they had no tie to assige. Their 372 00:20:10.240 --> 00:20:14.759 entire theory of Russian collusion was completely fabricated. They were 373 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.519 the criminals, ye have beyond the powerty justice. Were the criminals, 374 00:20:18.079 --> 00:20:22.200 And I was experiencing a political prosecution and persecution for 375 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:23.799 crimes that I had not committed. 376 00:20:25.359 --> 00:20:29.119 But it's amazing that this seems to be a repeated 377 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.880 pattern over and over with people who were either supporters 378 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:37.079 or friendly to Donald Trump and his presidential campaign. The 379 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:39.920 deep state really did not want Trump in office, and 380 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:43.720 they didn't want him in office again. And thanks to 381 00:20:43.799 --> 00:20:48.599 the American people being fed up with everything that had 382 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:51.880 been put upon them the last four years under Joe 383 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:56.119 Biden's presidency, they came out and drove to the polls 384 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:01.039 and rejected the swamp the deep state, and right after 385 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.359 the election, on November seventh, President elect Trump outlined his 386 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:09.160 plans to address the deep state, and it focuses on 387 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:12.599 three main areas. He plans to investigate. Number two in 388 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:16.480 that is the weaponization of government agencies against his campaigns, 389 00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:20.440 and I would say against both of campaigns and against 390 00:21:20.440 --> 00:21:21.640 his first presidency. 391 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:27.079 That's correct, That's what Donald Trump intends to do. And 392 00:21:27.119 --> 00:21:31.119 I think the deep state still does not want Donald 393 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:35.319 Trump to notice. And I'm contemplating whether or not this 394 00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:40.400 decision by Biden on Sunday to allow are Ukraine to 395 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:44.599 use these long range US missiles is again a military 396 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:47.200 coupdeta by the deep state. They think they want to 397 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:54.359 block Donald Trump's effort to end this war. They are 398 00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:58.319 also concerned that Donald Trump is going to investigate the military, 399 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:03.599 specifically the decision when General Million others in the Joint 400 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:09.480 Chiefs I D. The Department of Defense refused to participate 401 00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:13.720