Speaker 1: Kat Karma Orgasmic back for a third time, is my
guest for the evening. You know exactly where you can
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It is always a pleasure to have you on. Thank
you for coming on with me tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me Kat.
Speaker 1: I've never had anyone else on twice. I need to
say that to you. I've never had anyone else on twice.
On going deeper, this is the third one. This is
going to sound corny and creepy and weirdly simpy, but
you met my wife in person, so you know I'm
not coming aftery in that way.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: I consider you one of my first friends in this industry.
And I don't know what real friendship is and daily
texting and this and that, but I think back to
somebody who I was a big fan of early on
due to some of your work, and I went I
want to reach out to this person, and you came
back at me with the same excitement I came to
you with it for you know it really it means
a lot to me that you're always willing to come back,
and I want to thank you for that.
Speaker 3: So oh, I know you're a friend to me too.
I feel like we've known each other for years now, like.
Speaker 2: Literally, yeah, we have.
Speaker 3: Kind of crazy to say that.
Speaker 1: If anyone hasn't listened to any of your previous episodes,
I always start them off with this one right here.
Considering all that you do to make money, what do
you consider your job title to be?
Speaker 2: I guess I just say.
Speaker 3: Like content creator, video creator, adult adult video creator.
Speaker 2: See it's more specifically.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so broad, right, but I always feel like
that doesn't encapsulate all the shit you girls have to do.
So when you say adult video content creator to the
dumb guy out there, he goes, Okay, Cat shows up
on set, she's there for two hours, she has sex
for an hour and a half, and she leaves with
fifty thousand dollars, and you go, no, that's not how
this works at all.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: I wish.
Speaker 1: For you having sex for two hours. In a scene
there are exponential amount of hours afterwards, and editing and
this and that, and administrative work making sure all the
documents are signed. Did you realize the industry was going
to be like that when you stepped into it. Did
you know how much additional work there was?
Speaker 3: I guess so, But to be honest, I thought I
was going to be more complicated, really, like all the
legalities and like you can just have sex on camera
and that's okay, and like this person signs a paper
that says it's fine and we're good, like it's legal.
I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think that's really freaking.
Speaker 1: Cool, super cool. It's super cool, and it's cool that.
What I love about it and what I love with
like the of revolution and everything else, is you can
make any kind of content you want to make. There
will be a buyer for it somewhere, someone is interested
in seeing you and seeing you in this scenario or
this scenario or whatever. And if only you like it, Yeah,
maybe you won't get a huge odd audience, but you
will have a dedicated core of people, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think especially just showing up consistently is the
main thing, because yeah, I think audience is like for me,
if I see a creator posting all the time, I
get like attached, and then I like really like that
creators videos, even though it's like a silly Instagram video.
So I think it's the same as like adult content,
just being consistent and like showing up and yeah, you
can do whatever you want really for the most part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a great point too. That's how you
get not just lifelong fans, well, yes, lifelong fans, but
also like the consistent I hate to always make it
sound business, ye, but you get that renewal, you know,
is really nice. It's them saying I'm willing to make
you a part of my monthly budget, and it's you
saying right, you know. The nice side of it is
you going I will continue to make content. I'll continue
to put stuff out if you're willing to pay for it.
And it's a great exchange. And uh yeah, I think
it's I think it's such a great revolution. I just
hope people are taking advantage of it to the fullest
and not being taken advantage of as well, like girls
underpricing their videos or this or that. You've always had
a great philosophy. You haven't done pay per views, you
haven't done anything. You just put your content out there,
come pay for it, and it's there for you. Has
that worked through your career? Best for me?
Speaker 3: But that's a me thing. I think it just depends
on individuals. Like the way I see it as if
you're doing a pay per view site, like you have
to constantly be creating, and as a creator myself, like
an artistic kind of person, that's too much pressure for me,
and I would probably just get too stressed out. Like
I don't know how to explain that, but I feel
like if I'm just creating, like this is the video
I made today, you can watch it and it's free,
but if you don't like it, there's no pressure on
me if you don't like it.
Speaker 1: That makes total sense. Actually, you said you didn't understand.
To me, you sound like a person who writes a
movie and then that movie comes out no matter how
long that movie takes. Whereas working as a writer on
the Tonight Show, it's like Cat need ten jokes by
this afternoon. That's not your type saying hunh, you have
to feel it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm like kind of just for better or worse, authentic,
like I have to steal, I have to feel good
and like yeah, and I don't. I don't want to
create something and then someone buy it and then be
like that wasn't worth the money. Cat, I didn't like
that video. I think I would feel too bad, like
in this economy, you paid me to watch a video, like, yeah,
I don't know. I don't want to steal someone's money.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's very kind of you. Actually, that's appreciated. Yeah,
it seems like everybody's a fucking have you all right?
Have you had any of the problems I've seen that
some girls have with like chargebacks and I don't even
know the whole like the whole concept of it. So
these guys will pay for something from you one hundred
dollars for a custom video whatever it is, and then
go to their credit card company and go, oh no,
my shit was stolen and then they just take that
out of your account.
Speaker 3: I've not noticed that day, Okay, Like, yeah, I don't.
But that's that's a good question. Like what if somebody
does with a refund. I think they have to go
through OnlyFans.
Speaker 1: Maybe and see you know what, in a way, as
much as you said earlier, you were like, I didn't
realize it was actually this simple. You almost have simplified
your life too. You're not sweating the you know, all
the six different purchases on all these different websites, and
I know you have stuff out there and whatever else,
but you're not like having to chase this down or
that down or whatever. You have pay per views. You
don't have to worry about this. You just go, hey,
I'm going to put out my artistic content, the sexiest
content there is on the internet. It seems like to me,
at least personally personal opinion there. Sorry, and just as
like a flat rate jump in. I think that's very
cool of you, and I think that's very fan centric.
And I there are people who you can tell do
this for money. There's people who do this for the sex,
which is much rarer than I thought. And then there's
people who like enjoy the sex and go there's a
I can run this. I don't have to run this
like a scam. I can run this like a convenience store.
You are paying for something, I'm giving you something. It's
just a nice switch, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody really is, Like there's other
ways that people are on their page, and it works
really well for them, But I think it's an individual.
Speaker 1: Thing, totally total.
Speaker 3: I don't think I could keep up with that, and
that's just me personally.
Speaker 1: But at least you're out front with that. You know
it's not you know the post at the top that
says updates weekly and you look and you go, has
not been on here since July, and you go, oh,
I don't know about that. So let me ask you.
Though last time we talked was twenty twenty three, it's
been three years now to have you on this show,
tell me how your atmosphere has changed. Whatever you're comfortable
talking about. We talked about you moving. If you don't
want to delve any deeper, I totally understand that, but
I did want to dig into kind of how you're
viewing the world now. You said something interesting to me
in a Twitter message earlier. You said you formed some
new opinions about stuff. Sorry to hit you throw you
on the spot with a message you sent me a
year ago. You said you you may have formed some
new opinions about you were just It would be so
funny if you were just smoking weed one night and
you're like, yeah, I got some opinions about shit, and
then I'm like, go ahead, what are they you go
fucking heany guys about that smart fucking sprite as good
as hell, And you're like, oh shit, Pet didn't have anything.
I don't know what What are you willing to talk about?
What are you not willing to talk about? I'm totally
fine anyway, not trying to put you in a bad position.
I just don't want to go down a road. And
then yeh know, well.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty open just because like I'm pretty open with
my fans. I don't have a way around that because
my only fans was like founded on a specific content
type and like niche, which is.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know who. You can say this on YouTube.
Speaker 1: You can say whatever. You'll trust me, I'll clean it
up if you talk. Yeah, you're good.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, just.
Speaker 3: Like the gambang content that I'm known for, I don't
remember what I was saying.
Speaker 1: So you forgot? How has either your content your life?
Like what since the last time we talked, which was
about three years ago? What change? What evolution have you
gone through? You were saying your your content used to
be based on a very specific niche gang bang.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, that's what I was saying is
that I don't have a choice but to be kind
of open about stuff so you can ask me questions. Yeah,
because my life, like my personal life was very much
like on OnlyFans because I had a couple pages.
Speaker 2: With my ex husband.
Speaker 3: Where I did yeah gang bang content, hot wife content
and yeah, so when all that changed, it was like
I kind of had to explain stuff to my fans
at the time.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha, totally makes sense. And it's it's nice that
you've been able to pivot though and like go, Okay,
you know, this is what I was, this is what
I'm going to be going forward, you know for a while. Yeah,
so we actually we did have your your husband at
the time. On the last EPISO said you were on
he was with you. Again, I don't want to delve deeply.
Can I ask this and anything you're not comfortable, just
don't answer. It's totally fine. I won't be offended by it.
Sure was this just a time and separation thing. Was
there anything I'm trying to get to and I can't figure.
I've had on a lot of people in the swinger
lifestyle in the last two seasons of this show, and
they all talk about how their husbands came into it,
or their husbands or this and this and that. What
I'm wondering is anything that you went through, was it
anything sexual related, And if it was, has it changed
your opinion on that lifestyle. I was trying to I'm
trying to peacefully get there without like being you know whatever. Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: That's okay. No, I mean, I'm not going to go
into details of exactly why we broke up, but to
kind of answer your question is like, no, it wasn't that.
It wasn't like a sexual thing that broke us apart
or was like undoable. It was probably just two people
growing apart and we tried to make it work. And
I can say that the marriage doesn't fix shit, so
maybe we just shouldn't have gotten married. Yeah, but I mean,
no hate, no hard feelings. We did a lot together
and yeah, I mean I love what we created and
the time we had and no shade to him at all.
Sure it was really just no, you're okay, it was
really just me. I think all it was all fizzling
out two separate things, if that makes sense, Like the
way I felt about filming gang bangs, only filming gang
bangs and then and the marriage, those were totally.
Speaker 1: Separate, totally fair. I just I always because you hear it,
and as a person who's not in any kind of
lifestyle like that. I've been with my I'm thirty eight now,
I've been with her since I was twenty, So I
haven't cheated, we haven't gone, you know, It's just always
been that. I always just wonder if there's ever and
I don't want it to be that, but a breaking
point in these relationships where you know, maybe a couple
is okay stepping over the line while they're together, and
then maybe when you're not together it comes out someone
stepped over. So I just always wonder. And again, yeah,
I'm not looking for details. I'm like, so you know
what was what was mediation? Like, like, I'm not interested
in that. I just always wonder about the aspect of
it and how okay, So, how has that affected your content?
Then you're saying you're doing less of the gang bang stuff,
less of the group stuff. Now is that by choice
me meaning you don't really like that interaction anymore? Or
is it more the organization of it by yourself hasn't
quite come together yet?
Speaker 3: I actually was I continue to do gag banks after
we got separated, and I set up two or three
that I had coordinated by myself, and it wasn't really that.
Speaker 2: It could have just been.
Speaker 3: I guess a little bit of that, Like that is
a lot of work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, for sure, it's a lot of work.
Speaker 3: For two people to set up a game bank. It's
a lot of work for one person. But no, I mean,
I don't remember exactly what you asked me, but I
kind of just it just kind of stopped feeling fun.
It really just to put it bluntly, like if you
do something so extreme over and over and over and
over and over again. I mean the old only content
I was ever filming was gang bangs. Period. I put
out a gang bang, When's the next gang Bang? And
it was really fun. I mean that was fun, and
that is the content that I was kind of like
on this adrenaline hide producing, and I eventually I think
I'm on that. I think a lot of the reason
that people like watching it is because my like reactions
and I was really enjoying it, like authentically you can
read it in my face, and I get a lot
of comments about people like my authenticity and facial expressions
I don't want to keep doing something and then eventually
y'all are watching it like you're faking it. Okay, right,
you know, like I don't know, that's just for me,
my experience, Like it just kind of stopped being fun.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, as a.
Speaker 3: Creative person, it's not fun to keep doing it over
and over.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So that's what I was going to ask.
Was it just creativity? Was bad? Was it? Or not bad?
But you just didn't love the direction it was going,
the repetition of it all? Was it the act itself
was overwhelming? Like to be doing however many times, once
a week, once every two whatever it was you were doing.
Was it? Can I ask this too? Was it that
it didn't feel as personal anymore? You know what's so funny?
I asked questions and forget the beginning of them, and
you start answers and forget the beginning of them. So
people are listening, they're gonna go yo. They needed to
keep it short, okay, let me oh oh, I just
started recently, so yeah, there we go. Okay, Okay. Was
it the creativity? Was it that the act was overwhelming?
Or was there a lack of did you start to
eventually feel like a lack of like it being personal at.
Speaker 2: All all the above.
Speaker 3: It's like I think when people would ask me, like
a friend, like a closer friend, personal questions, I'd be like,
how do you get through that? I could never get
through gaming? How do you do that? My answer is
you dissociate. And that's kind of sad, like to have
to block that out to get through it because it
is overwhelming, Like that's an intense experience and that's why
it's taught, like that's what's so erotic and turns people
on and I think that's what makes it fun. But yeah,
I mean to put yourself through that is a lot
like energetically draining.
Speaker 1: Yeah, jumping out of a plane is energetically draining, I assume,
And if you had to do that every day to work, right,
you would eventually be like, hey, hey, I'm fucking wired
all the time now because I have to jump in
the planes every day. Right facts, Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Maybe just coasts a little bit like not those all
the time?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? Do you remember one where you felt
so overwhelmed? Not? Not even I don't want to take
it back to a bad place. If you had to
like tap out a one or something like that. So
not that, but when you actually like finished and completed
and everything and you were okay with but where was
there one where you were just like, holy shit, that
was that was too much? I got to dial this back, thankfully.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that that never happened, but definitely
leading up to them, especially for like if I'm doing
DP or anal and you have to like I would
starve myself before those, like I would fast for an
extended period of time. So yeah, leading up to some
of those, I would be thinking, I don't think I
can do this, Like I think I'm going to actually
pass out, Like am I gonna get through the scene
kind of thing. Yeah, it's exhausting.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, the man, I gotta tell you, I'm of
two minds on this because you said the dissociating thing,
and part of me goes exactly like you said, I
go this, poor fucking girl. I just want to hug
you right now, and you know it's okay, I know,
And the other side of it is like, and this
is a positive term, not a negative term, because I
don't want you to but like what a workhorse. It's
like we got to get this done. Okay. I don't
want you to think I'm calling you a horse, but
what a work course, like, we gotta get this done. Hey, shit,
the scene, get this shit done needs to go. I'm
just gonna go into my field in my mind for
a little bit and I go, well, respect to that.
I'll give you that. You know I've shoveled landscaping. Yeah, exactly, Okay,
all right, I noticed something and I'll say this to
this is no offense to anyone else that I've interviewed,
and yours is the only only fans I will sign
up for. And part of that is I do too
many interviews. I can't do it. I don't fucking make
any money on this show. So it's like, you know,
it's all money out your stuff. I always love though,
and again I considered it friends, like you know, you
met my wife, you took picture your sweetheart.
Speaker 4: Hugs hugs. But I'll say that you had a little
stretch for a while. Did you have a thing for
hickeys or did were you with someone had a thing
for hickeys? There was a picture I was looking at you.
I go, wow, look her nipples hanging out. But why
is it so off centered there? And I go, oh,
her nipples not showing it all? That is a giant hickey?
Was What was that about? Were you fucking a vacuum
for a little while or what was the deal here?
Speaker 2: I mean we were me and freaky some freaky frogs.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I.
Speaker 3: Do like that though. I like to be like, I
don't know, I'm pretty submissive when it comes to dynamics, and.
Speaker 2: Something about that is really hot to me.
Speaker 3: Sure, because it's like like the next day, it's like
a reminder, like, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like here right now, it's a less committed tattoo
or branding. It's almost like the next week you're gonna
let people know I got this, this is mine right here,
all right, and we.
Speaker 3: Need to even it out. If there's one here, you
gotta do one here.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm one. You know. I love symmetry,
So that really makes sense to me. Yes, as everyone does. Uh, so,
what are you looking to do going forward? Because I
have I have this question, and I get it that
you've never wanted to do it. I think you would
be so great shooting a couple mainstream scenes. Have we
stayed out of that entirely like we I know, you know,
came from Texas. Bukkakes is where I learned of you,
and you were just this adorable girl and you've shut
four scenes with them and then they got sold and
did whatever and blah blah blah blah. I don't know anymore,
so it doesn't exist. But just the most scenes. Then
I go, I go, please let this girl just make
them all across the internet and only fans came out
and we were all happy, we were all good. But
what is what is the lack of mainstare? Can we
ever get you on a Brawser set? Can we ever
get you on a bang Bro set?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean I really would like to. This is
off brand, like I would like to do like a
lesbian scene, but I don't even know professional like mainstream
companies that reach out to But yeah, I mean I'd
be open to it. It would be fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm not like against it. Okay, totally fair so,
but just a girl girl scene. We're not talking to
any boy girl stuff yet.
Speaker 2: Probably not, I don't know. I'm having a lot of
fun making content with my man right now.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So again I don't want an overstep. But
you say certain things are tied into it. Are we
tied into somebody right now? Is that we have a
content partner? Is what I'll call it.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, yeah, I do. We've been making videos
for like a year. I tag him on OnlyFans and
like Twitter, I'll give him a shout out as deep Piper.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, I will tag him as well
if you like online of course. Of course, who do
you get when people say you look like someone? I've
been trying to figure out this whole fucking time. I
think I have it and I don't know. And this
is the weird like kind of spectromething my wife and
I do. I watch TV shows. I go, who does
that look like? I think, go ahead, who who do
you get? Oh?
Speaker 3: I can't think of it. I can't think of anybody
right now because it's always somebody that I don't know.
But it's like a famous actress and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 1: You have some Jennifer love Hewett to you around advice. Okay,
you have something? Okay, Okay, yeah, that's it's I don't
know if it makes me feel old or if it's
kind of hot that you don't know who Jennifer love
Hew it is. It's one of the two. Hillary Duff,
you have a little bit in your eyes, I think
result No oh okay.
Speaker 2: No I'm slattered.
Speaker 3: Oh who does love Hillary?
Speaker 1: Does love Hillary Duff? Of course, of course. Okay, all right,
So what are some of your this is this sounds
like I'm trying to figure out your dating profile right now,
but I never ask this of performers. What are some
of your other interests? And like, do you do you
ever feel like you're making content to be able to
support other interests you have? Like, I know your life's
hectic right now. We just talked about your move and
this and that, But what are some of the things,
like what do you do on a daily basis?
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like
a nature girl or like boring. I like to do yoga,
I like to go on hikes. I'm like outdoorsy. I
like to play with my dogs.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'm not asking for an exact location
at all, but I think you used to be in Oklahoma? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So is there you got this good memory on me?
It's so the shid I remember, I can remember stuff
from like twenty years ago, exactly in detail. I have
no idea where I parked my car none soever. Have
you ever tried? I see, it's tough. I was gonna say,
do you have any hobbies or interests? And if you
were going to go like I like Pokemon, I was
gonna be like, have you ever tried to tie your
interest in to any of your content? You said dogs,
and I go, I don't really want to go down
that round. I don't know that may be one that
YouTube goes, you know what, let's pausy on that. So
I gotta tell you. I referenced some things, and I
referenced you a lot to mainstream performers because of something
I saw. So we did go to Exotica, my wife
and I a couple of years ago, my wife Jen,
I think it was I don't know, two three. At
this point I forget. We had to cancel this year.
I had a three week migrain, but whenever it was yeah,
I mean killed me. So we got to meet you,
which was honestly the one reason I was going. There
were other big names I had interviewed and like I
was going to get them to sign stuff, but I
was like this is cat. I honest, now here's what
I referenced though to other porn stars, and I feel
so I feel bad and maybe you correct me. Maybe
you loved it, you enjoyed it at the time. Maybe not.
We went to say goodbye to you, my wife and
I and I was like, Cat, it was so great
meeting you. We took a picture. I've lost seventy pounds
since then, so that picture will never see the light
of day. But uh, after you, you know, you smiled, you
were like nice to meet you. Guys, you left, The
next guy in line came up and he like grabbed
your ass as hard as I'd seen someone do it,
and your face went from smile to like ugh. Let
me ask you. Let me ask you. How was the
Exotica experience for you that year that I was there?
At least I'm not sure if you followed up and
went again, or if that was your only time. I
didn't see any posts, but maybe how was that experience
for you? Was it fun? Was it a little overwhelming?
Go ahead?
Speaker 3: It was? It was a lot. I think I should
have just gone as like a person, not what was
it just a regular pass like just walk around? Sure,
I don't need to have a booth to have fun.
I think having a booth. Yeah, it was just a
lot of people all day and they like, maybe you
have to stay there. You can't just not be at
your booths. So it was like two or three days
of just that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as perhaps from where, like out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Dude, I am just so well. First off, I bring
my wife along with me, and like I said, we're
not an open thing at all, so I bring my
wife with me. So I am just nothing but nice
and peaceful, and I don't I'm not hugging. I'm not
I will high five you or whatever other thing. And
some of those dudes that year, I almost looked at
my I think I did look at my wife and
I went, We're not coming next year. This was too rough.
It was like dudes were just a little too much
in the moment. So you had a good experience, But you,
I mean, would that be your recommendation for Obviously, like
you said before, everything works for each person individually. I
get that, but like, do you think independent content creators
should get boots or do you think maybe team up
and get one booth or what do you think would
be the strategy going forward.
Speaker 3: The second thing, he said, I wish that I had
brought a person, at least one other girl with me
to like, yeah, it would be more fun having it
like sharing a booth.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: I think that would be way more fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well let me just get okay, all right,
let's go back to the mainstream thing real quick. Okay, okay,
say the mainstream company. We're going to bring your man
on as well, okay, to film with you and another
like I'm trying. I'm just trying to get you onto
more sites with big lights on them, like any way
I can think of. I'm like, imagine I just pay
for the whole thing. I take out a small loan.
I don't know. I don't think they'd give me that.
You know, I went to film school in college, and
anytime I would hand in a project, my professor would
look at me and just go, I guess you could
direct porn. And what he didn't realize is how much
goes into directing porn. And I'm not capable of that whatsoever.
So you know, you never know, you never know.
Speaker 3: So I would see it with like my Manemi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm wondering there's a couple, but then
you might have to get plucked like I think milfy,
but then they stick you as a milf type. That's
one or wife. Maybe there's one of them where they'll
actually Oh no, I think the whole point is a
couck thing. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: I've seen those Yeah, where they bring the.
Speaker 1: Man in and like, yeah, if you could do that,
then that would be cool, but not like a cook
thing though, I know, I know. I'm trying to figure
this out. You know what, we'll just have to go
to your only fans and we'll have to see the
that's the best way to do it. I don't know,
kat I. I don't really have any other questions for you.
This is nice and easy. You're just easy to talk
to me. Yeah, so tell me what you think coming up.
Let's put it this way. I understand you are totally
having fun and you are getting yourself organized and set
and everything else. Yes, you are good to go and
those creative juices start flowing again. Do you have any
plateau or anything you want to hit in the next
year two years where you go I want to work
towards this whether it's a number of metric you want
this many followers, subscribers, whatever it is, is there. I
want to shoot this type of scene. I want to
be able to organize it. Do you have anything in
your mind yet? And if not, that's fine.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I'm glad you asked me this because yeah,
I'm super pumped, like be set up in my new
like house, because I have so many things I want
to do, like.
Speaker 2: A all for one.
Speaker 3: It's just my boyfriend has a really big dick, so
we've had to like work up.
Speaker 1: To the I I have no sympathy for this, gentleman.
I'm sorry, no sympathy. I no sympathy for the giant
dick dudes of the world.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he we've done it a few times and
it has been really good, Like it sounds really good. I
was scared, but it was nice.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: I mean you you were doing like DP stuff I
think as far back as the Texas scene, right, Yeah, Okay,
so now and now we're just working up. It's almost
like you've been born again.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I doesn't need this really big dick to work with,
and now I'm happy.
Speaker 1: The problem is, you don't want to feel this worn
out because you will not find a guy with a
bigger dick if this doesn't work out. You want to
keep this fresh at all times. Okay, yeah, this.
Speaker 3: Has to work out. He can't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no. So we're working up towards working
up towards anal anything else.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm very much into like beds and like
more kink stuff, and I've never really filmed anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, so you you like, I'd like to top into that.
Speaker 1: You've you've again you unfortunately for you, Fortunately for me,
because I like the group content that's my thing. You
did you got kind of pigeonholed over there, which isn't
bad until you get to the point where you go
shooting this type of content. You know, eventually it just so,
it's great, it's great you're working towards new things. And
I think, uh yeah, I mean, you know, I just
joked that, but it really is. It's almost like your
career is in a sense born again. You had been
an entire career over here. You know this partner, you
have this one now and stretch that as long as
it'll go, hopefully the rest of your life. You're happy
with that, and if not, you will find a way
to pivot. You have always found a way to make
this work. I still reference you to new girls that
I interview when I say, at one point during whenever
I interviews, you said, I was working my day job
and we realized we were losing money by not staying
home and getting content out and editing it out. And
that's a great thing if you get to that point. Now,
let me ask you, do you think? Can I ask
do you have a date? Well, you don't have to
give any details. Do you have a day job now
or you're working exclusively? Still off the only fans and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't had to stop only fans.
Speaker 1: Okay, And you know what that is? Consistency, that's Yeh's
what it is. Consistency staying up, offering high quality content.
You know.
Speaker 3: Thanks?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, Kat Karma Orgasmik I said years ago
that name is too long. Cut it down to kat Karma.
You refused, you worked out. I look like an idiot,
So congratulations that big.
Speaker 3: Karma's better. I agree with you, filing I agree.
Speaker 1: Cat Karma Orgasmic. You know exactly where you can find
her at kat Karma Orgasmic links to everything or in
the episode description, like I said at the beginning, bare minimum,
follow these folks on social media. Get their numbers up there.
It helps them even if you know you don't have
any cash. That's a bare minimum you could do. Go
make a Twitter and be nice and follow Kat on
that one payday rolls around. Kid is like, oh, I
need money for braces, and you tell your kids sorry,
daddy's got to subscribe right now, and you head on
over at Kat Karma Orgasmic again links to everything in
the episode description. Cat, I will eventually have more people on,
but I will never have anyone on more than I
have you. If I ever get to a third interview
with somebody ring ring ring, Cat, I need John fur fourth.
So I want to say thank you very much. I
hope nothing but the best for you, and I hope
someday you come back to Exotica, New Jersey as a spectator.
You bring your man along and I introduce you to
my wife again, No, this is Cale, and then I go,
don't talk to him. He's got a giant deck. Pladies
and gentlemen, Kat Carmen Orgasmic, thanks so much for coming
on with me tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you's good to you,