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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring you this week's episode of Dragonet. But

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<v Speaker 1>Pielbox one five nine one three. That's Pilbox one five

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirteen, Boise, Idaho eight three seven one five, and

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<v Speaker 1>dot net. Now here. From May the first, nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two is the Big Safe.

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<v Speaker 2>The story you were about to hear is true. The

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<v Speaker 2>names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>detective sergeant. You're assigned to burglary detail for more than

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<v Speaker 2>two months. A wave of safe burglaries. Apparently it's the

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<v Speaker 2>work professionals. A job's are well planned, well executed. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no leed to the whereabouts of the suspects. Your job

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<v Speaker 2>get them.

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<v Speaker 3>Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. Well the

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<v Speaker 3>next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,

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<v Speaker 3>you will travel step by step on the side of

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<v Speaker 3>the law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence,

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<v Speaker 3>from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is

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<v Speaker 3>the story of your police force in action.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Sunday, June eighth, was warm in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 4>We're working the day watch out a Burglery Division safe detail.

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<v Speaker 4>My partner's Bill Lockwood. The bosses Captain Wisdom. My name

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<v Speaker 4>is Friday. I was on the way back to the

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<v Speaker 4>office and it was eight thirty six am.

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<v Speaker 5>When I got to Room forty five.

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<v Speaker 6>Burglery Division.

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<v Speaker 5>There's nothing a book for us, my captain, about your

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<v Speaker 5>partner Lockwood? Yeah, what's that? I got to make that

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<v Speaker 5>sick report on him yesterday? Did you call him? I

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<v Speaker 5>talked to him on the phone last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty bad ankle spring doctor figures would be out for

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyway. Who's a fellow you got there?

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<v Speaker 7>Suspect Jones of McCready picked up on Steakcout drugstore third

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<v Speaker 7>in Ventura.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you got on? Creedy says.

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<v Speaker 7>They picked him up about quarter to five this morning,

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<v Speaker 7>and Jones were staked out inside the drug store. So

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<v Speaker 7>this fellow drive up in the car, get out and

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<v Speaker 7>try the front door of the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Hu and he went around and backed the.

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<v Speaker 7>Place, tried the back door, and he came around in

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<v Speaker 7>front again, tried to jimmy the door. Finally gave up,

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<v Speaker 7>gott in his car and started to drive off. Jones

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<v Speaker 7>of McCready followed him, picked him up and brought him in.

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<v Speaker 5>Where's Jones mcreadie? Now you know I told him to

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead home. No reason for him to hang around.

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<v Speaker 5>We carried the thing from here. What have you done

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<v Speaker 5>so far? You check him through our and I yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>called Frank cunning game.

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<v Speaker 7>He's doing it now Floyd and address of two thirty

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<v Speaker 7>nine West ninety second Street.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what he tells us. Anyway. Is that your name? Fellaw?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's my name. Saw my identification. No reason for

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<v Speaker 7>me to.

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<v Speaker 5>Like and check me out. Hold your hand up there.

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<v Speaker 5>We get these cuffs off, all right?

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<v Speaker 7>There you are, thanks, you're tired sitting in her handcuffs sitting

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<v Speaker 7>in one place, Frank.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to tell Gaffey will be down the interrogation

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<v Speaker 4>room when and I calls back, tell him.

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<v Speaker 5>The transferred in there, would you? Yeah, okay, I'll meet

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<v Speaker 5>you then. All right, thanks, all right, boy, let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>I talk to you down the hall. You know, let's

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<v Speaker 5>get this thing over with.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't feel good. I want to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 5>What you're shaking for is make me get nervous about it?

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<v Speaker 5>He was sick.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I haven't been feeling good at all last couple

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<v Speaker 7>of days, wouldn't you know?

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<v Speaker 5>And I smoked?

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<v Speaker 7>He said, well, Jim to have a cigarette? Three?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, thanks, there's a lighte for you. Yeah, god, thanks,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, turn around a minute. Will you let me

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<v Speaker 5>look at your eyes? Huh? Turn around? All right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay. Oh. I tell Gafne you put through the

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<v Speaker 5>cult mar Oh, that's fun.

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<v Speaker 7>You sure this won't take long? And I like to

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<v Speaker 7>get out of here and get home. I've been sick

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<v Speaker 7>for a week. I'll to be in bed right now.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll make it as fast as we can. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>in here, have a chairboard?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah all right, mister, you say you're not feeling well,

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<v Speaker 4>you're tired, you want to go home.

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<v Speaker 5>So are we We've been working all night. How about

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<v Speaker 5>getting the bottom of this thing?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, I'm all for it. Try to explain to the

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<v Speaker 7>guys have picked me up. I don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 7>all about. Ask me anything you want.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, let's start it here.

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<v Speaker 7>Boy, what were you doing out there hanging around that

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<v Speaker 7>drug store quarter to five this morning? It's the same thing,

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<v Speaker 7>un total the other officers. I was sick and wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to get something from my nerves jump as a cat,

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't sleep, And then the.

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<v Speaker 5>Drug store was closed. That was pretty obvious, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's right, it was. I just drove up there,

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<v Speaker 7>tried the door, and I saw the joint was closed,

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<v Speaker 7>so I left. That's all there is to it. Just

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<v Speaker 7>why I totally other.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's not true, boy, and you know it isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>You hung around the store for more than ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>You tried the front door, then you waited a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of minutes. You went around to the back, and you

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<v Speaker 4>tried to get in back there. You couldn't make it,

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<v Speaker 4>so you came around front again. You tried to jimmy

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<v Speaker 4>the it didn't you.

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<v Speaker 7>No, that's not it. You got it all wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>How about this boy? This your crow bar? Yeah? What

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<v Speaker 5>about it? Just a car too.

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<v Speaker 7>You used to fix flat tires? Carry it around all

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<v Speaker 7>the time.

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<v Speaker 5>In the car. I carry it on you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh not all the time. I just happened to have it,

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<v Speaker 7>that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>Now. Look, boy, that's not going to get it.

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<v Speaker 4>The officers have pitched you up. So you using this

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<v Speaker 4>bar in the door of that drug store. I thought

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<v Speaker 4>you were willing to get on the facts. You were

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<v Speaker 4>going to square with us, how about it?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, sure, I'll square with you. I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 7>over as much as you do. Just tell me what

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<v Speaker 7>you want to know. All we want is the truth.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a dress in your idea, the one you gave us.

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<v Speaker 7>Is that your true address?

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<v Speaker 5>You're living there? Now?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's right, check it out if you want. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not lying.

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<v Speaker 5>No reason to line we.

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<v Speaker 4>Think there is this address of yours. It's just about

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<v Speaker 4>ten miles away from where you were picked up. Now

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<v Speaker 4>you tell us how much sense it makes driving ten

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<v Speaker 4>miles to a drug store four thirty in the morning.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to I was sick. It was the only

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<v Speaker 7>place over lying.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it, mister, you had to pass at

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<v Speaker 4>least two all night drug stores on the way. Why

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't you stop at one of those?

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't see any stores open. I was sick. I

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<v Speaker 7>just kept driving till I spied a place I thought

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<v Speaker 7>it was open.

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<v Speaker 5>Looked to me like it was open.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of lights in the window inside the store too.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't know it was close, So I tried the door.

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<v Speaker 5>Usually tried doors with a crowbar.

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<v Speaker 7>Boy, Look, look, what are you getting that? Do you

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<v Speaker 7>think I was trying to break in that place?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what we think.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, what for what I want to break in there?

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to get something from my nerves, that's all.

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<v Speaker 7>I want to find a drug store? Why should I

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<v Speaker 7>break the open a place? And did you just get

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<v Speaker 7>a bottle of medicine?

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<v Speaker 5>We don't think you were looking for medicine? Void?

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<v Speaker 7>Well then, what was it? What are you figured?

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<v Speaker 5>This is what we figure, mister.

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<v Speaker 4>You're going in that store to burglarise the safe The

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<v Speaker 4>area is the same, the time elements right, So there

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<v Speaker 4>is the type of business.

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<v Speaker 5>The m matches right down the line.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what you're talking about. Six safe jobs

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<v Speaker 7>in the last two I don't know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the truth. I'm not a burklar. You got me wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>I never touched a safe in my life.

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<v Speaker 4>How many times you've been arrested, mister, huh? How many

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<v Speaker 4>times you've been arrested?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, a couple of times have been picked up, nothing serious, though,

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<v Speaker 7>so help me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the truth.

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<v Speaker 7>I never touched it safe in my whole life.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not going to do much good lining to his boy.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll get everything we need from records.

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<v Speaker 7>I've got a record. I ain't denying up, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>no Berkeley.

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<v Speaker 4>And what were you doing a quarter of five this

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<v Speaker 4>morning trying to get in that drug store if you're

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<v Speaker 4>not a burgler.

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<v Speaker 7>I tried to explain to you. I wasn't trying to

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<v Speaker 7>break in. I needed some medicine, something for my nerves.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought the place was open. I'm a sick man.

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<v Speaker 7>I swear on a Bible off So that's just the

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<v Speaker 7>way it was.

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<v Speaker 5>I got it. Yeah, Friday talking. Oh yeah, Charles Boyd. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's right, that's him. What do you got, uh huh?

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<v Speaker 5>All the same? I see. Give me the last two

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<v Speaker 5>or no, the last two arrests again? Yeah? May ninth,

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<v Speaker 5>May twenty second, all right, Conningham, Yeah, thanks very much Frank,

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<v Speaker 5>you got that folder there, those crime reports. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but he had said Boyd was in custody May ninth,

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<v Speaker 5>May twenty second. What was he in narcotics? He's a user,

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<v Speaker 5>long record, it's all the.

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<v Speaker 4>Same though, never been picked up for anything but narcotics

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<v Speaker 4>just about rose him.

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<v Speaker 5>Not huh ninth and the twenty seconds in jail. He

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<v Speaker 5>couldn't have had anything to do with those last day.

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<v Speaker 5>Jee man, it's about the size of it.

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<v Speaker 7>You guys straight now. I told you you thought I

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<v Speaker 7>was lying, didn't John know Burke? You know what my

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<v Speaker 7>record is. I never tested safe in my life.

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<v Speaker 5>Just checking it out, Boyd. Sometimes it happens this way.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, I'm hard feeling, Take off now and go home.

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<v Speaker 7>That's feeling well at all? I guess it's okay.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you just sit still, Boyd. You're not going in.

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<v Speaker 5>We mean red tab on your car down at the

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<v Speaker 5>record Bureau.

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<v Speaker 4>Your last arrest May twenty second, violation State in Narcotics Act.

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<v Speaker 5>He went out on a fifteen hundred dollars bail.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 5>It was all legal. I paid for it.

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't you show up for your preliminary hearing? We

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, that wouldn't do that to me, would I

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<v Speaker 7>was sick and better it couldn't make it to court.

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<v Speaker 7>You just look at me, you can tell, can't ye

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<v Speaker 7>ought to be in bed?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you don't look good at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course i'd don't. I'm a sick man, really sick.

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<v Speaker 7>I would be in a hospital.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, maybe that's where they'll send you.

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<v Speaker 4>We continued questioning the suspect, Charles Boyd, who finally admitted

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<v Speaker 4>that he'd gone to the drug store early that morning

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<v Speaker 4>for the purpose of burgerizing the place to obtain narcotics.

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<v Speaker 4>He told us it was his first attempt at burglary,

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<v Speaker 4>and further interrogation proved beyond a doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>He had nothing to do with the current wave of

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<v Speaker 5>safe burglaries.

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<v Speaker 4>He was booked on the bench warrant and narcotics detail

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<v Speaker 4>was notified of his arrests. For all practical purposes, we

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<v Speaker 4>were back where we'd started from two months before, when

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<v Speaker 4>the campaign of safe jobs first started.

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<v Speaker 5>Boyd was just another in a long line.

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<v Speaker 4>Of possible suspects who had to be tracked down and

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<v Speaker 4>checked out. In the final analysis, they meant nothing to

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<v Speaker 5>Them down and checking.

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<v Speaker 4>Them out meant long hours of leg work, days even weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>and then more hours spent interrogating them. Boyd typified the

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<v Speaker 4>possible suspect. He added nothing, but he couldn't be ignored.

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<v Speaker 4>In the weeks that followed, stakeouts continued in the general

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<v Speaker 4>area where the safe burglaries had been operating. No further

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<v Speaker 4>lead the investigation went on. On June seventeenth, Frank Smith

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<v Speaker 4>and I drove out to the San Fernando.

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<v Speaker 5>Valley to check a lead on a possible suspect.

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<v Speaker 4>We'd gotten from one of our informs was that the

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<v Speaker 4>possible suspect, an ex convict with the name of Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Chandler who'd served time for burgery, had apparently come into.

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<v Speaker 5>Some money recently through the parole office.

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<v Speaker 4>We located Chandler on a chicken ranch just outside of

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<v Speaker 4>Van Ive.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. I've been out here almost three months now.

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<v Speaker 7>Nice life, pretty hard work though, got a peer routine

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<v Speaker 7>question is volume mark? Like we told you with from

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<v Speaker 7>burglary detail, I guess you know why.

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<v Speaker 5>We're out here. Yeah, I think I get the idea.

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<v Speaker 7>I admit there was a time when you wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 7>very welcome, but right now it's different. Anything I can

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<v Speaker 7>do to help, it's all right, folks.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna lay it right on the table for you. Mark,

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<v Speaker 5>you all miss placed you? Yeah, that's right, Me and

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<v Speaker 5>my brother. Where'd the money come from? My brother? He

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<v Speaker 5>set the whole thing up. When you say you and

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<v Speaker 5>your brother, who's money bought the place? Mark? Well, my

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<v Speaker 5>brother made the down payment. You can check on it.

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<v Speaker 7>The whole deal went through USCO right down here at

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<v Speaker 7>the local bank. What's the deal anyway?

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't you check with my proofster? Yeah, we checked with Galloway.

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<v Speaker 7>He told us you was still unactive parole. You were

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<v Speaker 7>running a chicken ranch. I didn't say it was for

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<v Speaker 7>your brother though. Well, I thought I filled them in

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<v Speaker 7>on it. I didn't have enough cash to swing the deal.

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<v Speaker 7>My brother put up most of the day. I only

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<v Speaker 7>had eight hundred buck Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 5>That's your car back there in the driveway, Mark, No,

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<v Speaker 5>that's my brother's nice one. Huh. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I got permission from the pro offster to drive. Say,

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<v Speaker 7>would you mind walking back with me to the brewterer Shack.

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<v Speaker 7>I got a new batch of Rhode.

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<v Speaker 5>Islands in this morning day. Old Chick's got to be.

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<v Speaker 7>Sure that he's right, Yeah right, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>work around.

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<v Speaker 5>A place like this. I just built those pins there.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh huh.

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<v Speaker 5>They're nice, good looking flock of chicks there, wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 5>say four weeks old? Those are bar rocks.

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<v Speaker 7>And notice how they're starting to feather out, already getting

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<v Speaker 7>nice and heavy.

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<v Speaker 5>Make wonderful friars, you know, Oh that's all. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>just oh you look at that mash rack. They like fens.

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<v Speaker 5>I just still that thing an hour ago. That's where

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<v Speaker 5>the money goes. You know, that mash goes for better

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<v Speaker 5>than five bucks a sack.

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<v Speaker 7>Look, we don't want to take too much of your time, Chandler.

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<v Speaker 7>We can see your business. We've got a couple of dates.

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<v Speaker 5>We'd like to check with you where you were, what

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<v Speaker 5>you did?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh sure, bro, Just let me check the temperature in

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<v Speaker 7>the brewder house here.

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<v Speaker 5>Won't take a minute. Come on in. They're pretty cute

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<v Speaker 5>when they're smaller. Let me see here. Just look at

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<v Speaker 5>that hun Joe piled all over in jail. I must

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<v Speaker 5>be more than a thousand on the least. Yeah, just right,

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<v Speaker 5>eighty nine. I got to watch them pretty close.

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<v Speaker 7>The first week fell up the road locks, the big

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<v Speaker 7>backs last week heating element and the bruta went out overnight.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, got to shove that door hard six a little, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll get it.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>What else was the officers?

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<v Speaker 7>Glad to help you any way, I can those dates

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<v Speaker 7>we want to check Mark. It was almost a month ago,

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<v Speaker 7>the weekend in May seventh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Can you copy your time on that weekend where you

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<v Speaker 5>were what you did? It's seventh Yeah, let's see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I was here any way, approving that. Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 7>I started here the twenty third of April and been

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<v Speaker 7>here every night since.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone.

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<v Speaker 7>We can check with him at well. My brother and

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<v Speaker 7>his wife they were here.

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<v Speaker 5>They can tell you.

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<v Speaker 7>Neighbors too, they come over for cards on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>I come to think of it, I remember my pro

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<v Speaker 7>officer was out to see me one.

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<v Speaker 5>Of those weekends. And pretty sure that you can check

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<v Speaker 5>with him. All right, Mark, thanks?

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<v Speaker 7>It wass a pitch anyway, sargint. The safe jobs around

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<v Speaker 7>town is at it?

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<v Speaker 5>That's it? You heard anything, Mark? And he rumbles at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, sorry, this job keeping pretty close to home.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't get around at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe two three nights a month. That's the only time

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<v Speaker 7>I get out.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all we're asking about. Before we left the suspect,

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Chandler. We called his parole officer and he substantiated

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that he visited with Chandler on the night

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<v Speaker 4>of May seventh, the date of one of the safe burgeries.

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<v Speaker 4>We checked with his brother, his sister in law, and

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<v Speaker 4>the neighbors, and all of them fully corroborated his story.

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<v Speaker 4>Before we left, we were satisfied that Chandler had nothing

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<v Speaker 4>to do with the safe burgeries. Was just another of

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<v Speaker 4>the more than half a hundred possibles that we checked

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<v Speaker 4>out in the course of the investigation. On June twenty second,

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<v Speaker 4>we got a lead on still another one.

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<v Speaker 5>It came from the proprietor.

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<v Speaker 4>Of a fixed shop on West Picco Boulevard near Normandy.

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<v Speaker 5>We drove out to interview him.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, just a minute, Officer's be with you in a minute,

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<v Speaker 7>all right, Yeah, okay, if you get these keys made,

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<v Speaker 7>the lady will be back soon, says.

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<v Speaker 5>You need them. What time you got Frank ten to twelve? Hungry?

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't have much breakfast? How about dropping by? Philippi's

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<v Speaker 5>all right, it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Me I could do any good friendship Sandwich haven't been

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<v Speaker 7>done there for a while. Yeah, all right, off, sir,

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry to keep you waiting. I had to get the

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<v Speaker 7>keys done, I promised the one.

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<v Speaker 5>That's all right, mister van Or. But what was it

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<v Speaker 5>you want to see us about? Well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how to tell the truth. Maybe it's something, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing at all. I just don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Figured I ought to let somebody.

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<v Speaker 5>Know about it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, a young fellow was in here the day before yesterday.

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<v Speaker 7>Said his name was Ralph McKinley, which told me he

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<v Speaker 7>lived around the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 5>But I don't think I ever saw him before. He

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<v Speaker 5>didn't act right to me. He said he's an inventor.

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<v Speaker 5>He doubt it though.

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<v Speaker 7>He just didn't look good part to me, young fella.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, dress is pretty flashy. Never met an inventor

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<v Speaker 7>that looked like that before.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you want with you, sir?

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<v Speaker 6>He want me to make up a piece of machinery

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<v Speaker 6>for him.

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<v Speaker 7>He said it was a special part of a new

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<v Speaker 7>gadget he was working in.

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<v Speaker 5>Brought in his own drawing of the thing. I got

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<v Speaker 5>it down here something. What'd the young fellow look like?

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<v Speaker 5>Would you remember that? No? Typical cool room cowboy. I

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<v Speaker 5>guess about twenty nine thirty years old, thin.

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<v Speaker 7>Side tall, got a lot of gray hair for a

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<v Speaker 7>young fellaw his hair was almost great. This is what

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<v Speaker 7>he wants me to make up for him.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think it's supposed to be?

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<v Speaker 7>Miss McKinley said it was part of a new hydraulic

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<v Speaker 7>press he's working on.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a few doubts about that.

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<v Speaker 7>How do you mean, Oh, I've been tinkering around in

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<v Speaker 7>this business long enough to know what goes into.

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<v Speaker 5>A hydraulic press. Can't see where this thing fits in

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<v Speaker 5>at all.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, what's your idea on it? I think it's a

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<v Speaker 7>pull only one job. There any good for?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Breaking into a safe.

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<v Speaker 5>Before we left the fixed shop, van Owen gave us

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<v Speaker 5>a complete.

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<v Speaker 4>Description of Ralph McKinley, the man who'd ordered the gadget

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<v Speaker 4>made for him. We showed him several mugshots of possible suspects,

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<v Speaker 4>but he was unable to make any identification. Van Owen

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<v Speaker 4>told us that McKinley said he'd call back in about

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<v Speaker 4>three or four days.

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<v Speaker 5>To pick it up.

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<v Speaker 4>Except for the man's chance remark that he lived in

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<v Speaker 4>the neighborhood, van Owen had no idea as to his whereabouts.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve ten pm. We drove back to the office and

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<v Speaker 4>made arrangements for an immediate stakeout at the fixed shop.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we checked the name and description of Ralph McKinley

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<v Speaker 4>through R and I through the staff's office. It got

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<v Speaker 4>us nothing. As far as we could find out. He

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<v Speaker 4>had no previous criminal record. The end of the week

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<v Speaker 4>came and went. The man known as McKinley failed to

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<v Speaker 4>show up at Van Owen's fix it shop to pick

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<v Speaker 4>up the article that he'd ordered. Eight o'clock Monday morning,

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<v Speaker 4>June twenty eighth. We got the report when we checked

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<v Speaker 4>in for work. Despite all precautions, another safe job had

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<v Speaker 4>occurred over the weekend, this time at a liquor store

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<v Speaker 4>on South Alvarado. The time, the area and the m

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<v Speaker 4>O were generally the same. Frank and I drove out

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<v Speaker 4>to the location. The store was located in the middle

430
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<v Speaker 4>of the block, directly beneath an apartment hotel. Two of

431
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<v Speaker 4>the rooms on the second floor of the hotel were

432
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<v Speaker 4>situated above the liquor store. In one of these rooms,

433
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<v Speaker 4>a hole had been ripped in.

434
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<v Speaker 5>The floor, a hole large enough to allow.

435
00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:43.240
<v Speaker 4>A man to pass through it and gain access to

436
00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:44.640
<v Speaker 4>the liquor store directly beneath.

437
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<v Speaker 5>After we checked over the room, we put in a

438
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<v Speaker 5>call for Ray Pinker and the crime lab crew.

439
00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.079
<v Speaker 4>Then we went downstairs to interview the manager of the hotel,

440
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<v Speaker 4>A Clyde Winners.

441
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<v Speaker 8>I rented that room Friday night a couple of young fellows.

442
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<v Speaker 8>They checked out a few minutes before seven. I figure

443
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<v Speaker 8>I'm pretty good judge of faces. They sure didn't look

444
00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:06.559
<v Speaker 8>like thieves to me. Had their registerment twitters. One signed

445
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<v Speaker 8>his name Gordon, the other one was Richardson. I think

446
00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:13.200
<v Speaker 8>the register's right outside of the desk. You can check

447
00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:14.839
<v Speaker 8>it if you yes, said we'd like to do that.

448
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<v Speaker 5>When these two men, Gordon and Richardson checked in here,

449
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<v Speaker 5>did they have any baggage with him? Would you know that? Oh?

450
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<v Speaker 8>Yes, yes they had baggage. They took most of it

451
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<v Speaker 8>with them, though they left a few old calls by eye.

452
00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:28.680
<v Speaker 8>They must have left for the back way sometime late

453
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<v Speaker 8>Sunday night. I figure imagine tearing up the floor of

454
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<v Speaker 8>that room. Allows they bums. I should like to get

455
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<v Speaker 8>my hands on them.

456
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<v Speaker 5>Did they have a card? You know? Yeah? They had

457
00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:38.720
<v Speaker 5>a car. I got the license to them. But do

458
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<v Speaker 5>you think you'd recognize the two minute you saw him.

459
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<v Speaker 8>Again, Oh, tag him in a minute, Be sure that

460
00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.400
<v Speaker 8>I was. I I know him in a minute, especially

461
00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.160
<v Speaker 8>the young fellow Richard, and they could have been more

462
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<v Speaker 8>than twenty seven eight years old. Hair was gray, almost

463
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<v Speaker 8>completely gray.

464
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<v Speaker 3>You are listening to drag met authentic stories of your

465
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<v Speaker 3>police force and action.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Monday, June twenty eighth, eight fifty five am, the crime

467
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<v Speaker 4>lab crew arrived at the scene of the latest safe burgery,

468
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<v Speaker 4>the liquor store on South Albarado, and began their investigation.

469
00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:26.839
<v Speaker 4>The store was gone over thoroughly, as well as the

470
00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:29.359
<v Speaker 4>hotel room directly above it, through which the burghers had

471
00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:32.400
<v Speaker 4>gained access by ripping a hole in the floor. In

472
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<v Speaker 4>the store itself, a few feet from the safe, the

473
00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:36.720
<v Speaker 4>men from the crime lab found what appeared to be

474
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<v Speaker 4>a broken button, probably off a coat. They also found

475
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<v Speaker 4>a crumpled.

476
00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.119
<v Speaker 5>Envelope on the floor with the name F.

477
00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:46.240
<v Speaker 4>Gordon on it written in pencil, along with the half

478
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<v Speaker 4>a dozen pieces of.

479
00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:48.640
<v Speaker 5>Clothing found in the hotel room.

480
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<v Speaker 4>The items were taken back to the crime lab for

481
00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:54.839
<v Speaker 4>further examination. Nine ten am, after we finished interviewing the

482
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<v Speaker 4>hotel manager Clyde Winters, Frank Smith and I returned to

483
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<v Speaker 4>the office with a license number and description of the

484
00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.319
<v Speaker 4>suspects car, as well as exemplars of their handwriting which

485
00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.920
<v Speaker 4>we'd obtained from the hotel register. We gave our DMV

486
00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:09.119
<v Speaker 4>all the information on the car and they began an

487
00:20:09.119 --> 00:20:12.039
<v Speaker 4>immediate check. The vehicle was registered in the name of

488
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<v Speaker 4>Ralph McKinley at a Bronson Avenue address.

489
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<v Speaker 5>The legal owner was a local bank.

490
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<v Speaker 4>We checked the Bronson Avenue place, but they told us

491
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<v Speaker 4>there that the man known as McKinley had moved out

492
00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:22.720
<v Speaker 4>seven months before.

493
00:20:23.160 --> 00:20:25.160
<v Speaker 5>They had no information on his whereabouts.

494
00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Ten twenty am we talked to the people at the bank,

495
00:20:28.759 --> 00:20:30.880
<v Speaker 4>which held a pink slip on the car. They told

496
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<v Speaker 4>us that the last two monthly payments on the car

497
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<v Speaker 4>had been mailed in from a Clifford Street address. Frank

498
00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:38.880
<v Speaker 4>and I drove out to the location, a one story

499
00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.319
<v Speaker 4>duplex apartment building near the intersection of Clifford and Beverly Boulevard.

500
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<v Speaker 7>Nice units. Aren't you run up all over town?

501
00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:53.640
<v Speaker 5>He seemed to be, don't they. I'll get it. Yeah,

502
00:20:54.119 --> 00:20:56.119
<v Speaker 5>go your name, Ralph McKinley. Yeah, that's right.

503
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<v Speaker 4>What police officers, you want to get your coat McKinley

504
00:20:58.359 --> 00:21:00.720
<v Speaker 4>like talkie downtown or what's it all about?

505
00:21:00.759 --> 00:21:02.160
<v Speaker 5>Anybody else living here with you?

506
00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:02.200
<v Speaker 4>No?

507
00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:04.000
<v Speaker 6>On, just myself? Look, can you mind telling me what

508
00:21:04.000 --> 00:21:04.599
<v Speaker 6>you saw about?

509
00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:06.319
<v Speaker 5>Got a few questions we'd like to ask you won't

510
00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:06.720
<v Speaker 5>take long.

511
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<v Speaker 6>I can't go with you now. I got a business

512
00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:09.480
<v Speaker 6>appoint in a half an hour. I've been out of

513
00:21:09.480 --> 00:21:11.359
<v Speaker 6>town the last couple of months. I'm due back on

514
00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:13.880
<v Speaker 6>the job today, So yeah, I just can't spare the time.

515
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:15.799
<v Speaker 6>Appointments all day long. I got a whole flock of

516
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<v Speaker 6>business I.

517
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<v Speaker 5>Had to clear up.

518
00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:22.640
<v Speaker 4>It makes it see even come on, let's go. Well,

519
00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.319
<v Speaker 4>there wasn't much doubt about McKinley. He fitted the suspects

520
00:21:25.319 --> 00:21:29.279
<v Speaker 4>description almost perfectly. Paul slight built, approximately twenty nine years

521
00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.680
<v Speaker 4>of age, prematurely gray hair. We went over the apartment,

522
00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:34.680
<v Speaker 4>but there was no sign of anyone else on the premises,

523
00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.079
<v Speaker 4>no sign of any of the loot taken in the burglaries.

524
00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:40.160
<v Speaker 4>We checked the adjoining garage, but it was empty. The

525
00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:42.079
<v Speaker 4>suspect refused to admit that he even.

526
00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:42.480
<v Speaker 5>Owned the car.

527
00:21:43.119 --> 00:21:45.279
<v Speaker 4>Frank got on the phone, called the office and arranged

528
00:21:45.319 --> 00:21:48.279
<v Speaker 4>for an immediate stakeout on the apartment. When the men arrived,

529
00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:50.359
<v Speaker 4>we drove McKinley back to the City Hall and took

530
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<v Speaker 4>him to the interrogation room. He was arrogant and uncooperative.

531
00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:55.599
<v Speaker 4>We talked to him for a full hour, but he'd.

532
00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:56.079
<v Speaker 5>Ad meant nothing.

533
00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:58.400
<v Speaker 4>Frank left and went down the street to the crime

534
00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:00.440
<v Speaker 4>lab to check with Ray Pinker on his binding.

535
00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:02.359
<v Speaker 5>I continued questioning McKinley.

536
00:22:02.920 --> 00:22:04.640
<v Speaker 6>I don't care what the old man says. I don't

537
00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:05.480
<v Speaker 6>know what you're talking about.

538
00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.359
<v Speaker 4>He described you perfectly. He says you were in his

539
00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:09.079
<v Speaker 4>fixed shop a little over a week ago. You told

540
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:10.920
<v Speaker 4>him you were an inventor. You ordered this gadget from

541
00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:11.279
<v Speaker 4>him here.

542
00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:12.880
<v Speaker 6>I don't get it. What's that supposed to prove?

543
00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.319
<v Speaker 5>Well, you admit you went to the old man. You

544
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:15.599
<v Speaker 5>had to make this thing up for you didn't.

545
00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:16.960
<v Speaker 6>I don't admit anything. Why should.

546
00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:18.960
<v Speaker 5>All we're looking for is a straight story. We're going

547
00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:20.680
<v Speaker 5>to get it sooner or later. McKinley might as well be.

548
00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:22.480
<v Speaker 6>Now you're getting nothing from me. I don't have to

549
00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:22.839
<v Speaker 6>ten you.

550
00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.400
<v Speaker 5>How about the hotel overund South Alforado. You stayed there

551
00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:25.799
<v Speaker 5>last week?

552
00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:27.440
<v Speaker 6>No, of course not. Why should I go to a

553
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:28.839
<v Speaker 6>hotel I stayed at my place.

554
00:22:28.920 --> 00:22:30.680
<v Speaker 5>But you said you've been away. You just got back

555
00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:31.000
<v Speaker 5>in town.

556
00:22:31.240 --> 00:22:33.079
<v Speaker 6>Sure, that's what I said. I just got back last week.

557
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:35.079
<v Speaker 5>Well then you didn't stay at that hotel in South Alpe.

558
00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:37.079
<v Speaker 6>I told you I didn't. I don't even know the place.

559
00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:38.599
<v Speaker 5>But you know mister van oh and the old fell

560
00:22:38.599 --> 00:22:39.599
<v Speaker 5>out the fixed shop.

561
00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.039
<v Speaker 6>I don't know him either. I don't even go near

562
00:22:41.079 --> 00:22:41.640
<v Speaker 6>that end of town.

563
00:22:41.720 --> 00:22:42.319
<v Speaker 5>What end of town?

564
00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:44.920
<v Speaker 6>What are you talking about? Where you said the shop is?

565
00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:46.160
<v Speaker 5>I didn't mention where it was.

566
00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:47.839
<v Speaker 4>I asked you if you knew a mister van Owen,

567
00:22:47.839 --> 00:22:49.799
<v Speaker 4>if you ever went to his fixit, chopped order anything.

568
00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:51.720
<v Speaker 6>Look, what are you lying for? What's the angle?

569
00:22:51.839 --> 00:22:53.640
<v Speaker 4>No angle? McKinley. I told you like to have a

570
00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:54.599
<v Speaker 4>straight story, that's all.

571
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.440
<v Speaker 6>Well you've got it, mister. You heard everything I have

572
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:58.160
<v Speaker 6>to say. I don't know any old man. I don't

573
00:22:58.200 --> 00:22:59.880
<v Speaker 6>know anything about that hotel.

574
00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:08.799
<v Speaker 4>Friday talking. Yeah, don how to go? Uh huh? I see, yeah,

575
00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:10.880
<v Speaker 4>we'll pick it up. No, we'll pick it up right.

576
00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:14.839
<v Speaker 5>Thanks a lot, you know, a live very good McKinley.

577
00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:17.160
<v Speaker 5>Now what are you're talking about? That was our handwriting man.

578
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.400
<v Speaker 4>He just finished checking those exemplars of your handwriting we

579
00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:21.440
<v Speaker 4>got from you. He compared him to a signature and

580
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.079
<v Speaker 4>the register at the hotel in South Alvarado.

581
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 6>I already told you I don't know the police.

582
00:23:24.680 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Young fellow the name of Richardson checked in there Friday

583
00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:28.960
<v Speaker 4>night about seven o'clock. He signed the register, the signatures

584
00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:29.559
<v Speaker 4>in your handwriting.

585
00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:31.079
<v Speaker 5>McKinley. Yeah, sure, that's right.

586
00:23:31.200 --> 00:23:32.799
<v Speaker 6>I don't know the place. I've never been there.

587
00:23:32.880 --> 00:23:34.519
<v Speaker 5>Now, look, you're gonna have to do better than that. Fella.

588
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 4>The hotel manager's on his way down here now to

589
00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.640
<v Speaker 4>identify you, sows mister van Owen from that fix it shop.

590
00:23:38.799 --> 00:23:40.359
<v Speaker 5>Maybe a better piece together, a new story.

591
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:42.519
<v Speaker 6>Huh, you've got my story, cop, I was out of town.

592
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.359
<v Speaker 5>You can't prove where I was, all right, McKinley. Anyway

593
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:47.640
<v Speaker 5>you want to, Joe Hi, how to go?

594
00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:48.279
<v Speaker 6>Pretty good?

595
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.119
<v Speaker 7>Great pinker, finished checking that step the crime way. There's

596
00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:51.680
<v Speaker 7>a report on it.

597
00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Thanks. You just about sews it up, no doubt about it.

598
00:23:55.720 --> 00:23:57.640
<v Speaker 5>You're right, all right?

599
00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:59.640
<v Speaker 6>What is it this time? What are your phony charges?

600
00:23:59.640 --> 00:24:00.200
<v Speaker 5>I want?

601
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:03.279
<v Speaker 7>Can't be done, McKinley. Report on the clothes found in

602
00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 7>that hotel room.

603
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, not my clothes. I wasn't even in the place.

604
00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:09.000
<v Speaker 7>I'd say you were cleaning tags on a pair of trousers.

605
00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.119
<v Speaker 7>One of the coats traced them through the dry cleaners

606
00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:11.319
<v Speaker 7>to you.

607
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:11.799
<v Speaker 5>But a lie.

608
00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:13.680
<v Speaker 4>I told you I wasn't in the plate. There was

609
00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:16.119
<v Speaker 4>just something else here, fella. They ran tests on all

610
00:24:16.119 --> 00:24:18.200
<v Speaker 4>the clothes they found in your room. They found particles

611
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:20.119
<v Speaker 4>of fireclay from the safe that you broke into down

612
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:20.960
<v Speaker 4>below in the liquor store.

613
00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:22.759
<v Speaker 5>Your coat, your trousers, they were covered with the stuff

614
00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 5>save your When you ripped up the floor of that

615
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 5>hotel room, you picked up something else on the clothes.

616
00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:29.720
<v Speaker 5>Particles of floor bunnies, small bits of wood. They all

617
00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:30.039
<v Speaker 5>tie in.

618
00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:33.559
<v Speaker 4>You're threw No, not quite a piece of broken coat button.

619
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 4>We picked up a couple of feet from the safe.

620
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:36.799
<v Speaker 4>They matched it up with one of the buttons on

621
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:42.039
<v Speaker 4>your coat. Of broken on pieces fit perfectly, Kenley, I

622
00:24:42.160 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 4>got my story. You know you've got a lot to.

623
00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 5>Explain to take my chances. What's the pitch, McKinley, You

624
00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 5>know you got to come up with a story. I

625
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:48.319
<v Speaker 5>might as well be.

626
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.240
<v Speaker 6>Now there's no story to it. I was out of town.

627
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:50.839
<v Speaker 6>I told you that.

628
00:24:50.839 --> 00:24:52.440
<v Speaker 7>Why don't you get off at mister it's not going

629
00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 7>to take much to make a liar out of you.

630
00:24:53.839 --> 00:24:56.599
<v Speaker 6>You know that, don Why don't you get off my back?

631
00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:57.119
<v Speaker 5>That to you?

632
00:24:57.279 --> 00:24:59.319
<v Speaker 6>I told you everything. I'm going to tell you. I'm

633
00:24:59.319 --> 00:24:59.839
<v Speaker 6>getting out it.

634
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:04.799
<v Speaker 5>All right, go ahead.

635
00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 6>I can wait it out as long as you can.

636
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:12.920
<v Speaker 5>I doubt man. I get that's faking, are there? Oh?

637
00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:13.400
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Jan?

638
00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:19.559
<v Speaker 5>What is it that right? When? Fine?

639
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

640
00:25:20.480 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 5>Thanks? He's a news for you, McKinley.

641
00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.200
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, your apartment came back here place a few minutes ago.

642
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:27.079
<v Speaker 5>Our men picked him up.

643
00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:29.160
<v Speaker 6>They're bringing him in now. There's news to me. I

644
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:30.039
<v Speaker 6>don't have any partner.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm in business for myself. That's what your partner figures

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<v Speaker 7>tell me. He claims you got all the money. Thinks

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<v Speaker 7>you were trying to run out on him.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh what money?

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I showed you my wallet. You know how much

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<v Speaker 6>I got.

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<v Speaker 5>And we're going to ask you just once more.

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<v Speaker 6>You got it? There's nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 5>Rank.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, let's book him in. According to Rogers's partner's willing

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<v Speaker 7>to talk. I'll get the story from him, all right, McKinley,

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<v Speaker 7>let's go.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you mean, go away at Maine jail. We're

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<v Speaker 5>booking you in come on, let's go go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, come on, what did he say anyway? This guy

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<v Speaker 6>you say they picked up?

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<v Speaker 5>Were your partner told you what he said? Why? What's alone?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 7>I just say better order appistenigrapher han Joe. They are

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<v Speaker 7>ready to take the statement when they bring the guy in.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a good idea.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, Yeah, let's go back. I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>The story you have just heard was true. The names

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<v Speaker 2>were changed to protect the innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>On September nineteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department

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<v Speaker 3>of ninety one City and County of Los Angeles, State

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<v Speaker 3>of California.

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<v Speaker 5>In a moment the results of that trial.

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<v Speaker 3>Ralph Arthur McKinley and his accomplished John Warren Hatfield, We're

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<v Speaker 3>tried and convicted on six counts of second degree burglary.

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<v Speaker 3>They received sentences as prescribed by law, second degree burglary

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<v Speaker 3>as punishable by imprisonment in the county jail for not

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<v Speaker 3>more than one year, or by imprisonment in the state

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<v Speaker 3>penitentiary for not less than one nor more than fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Years, Ladies and gentlemen, to protect our nation in the

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<v Speaker 2>free world against communist aggression, we must produce vast quantities

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<v Speaker 2>of guns, planes, tanks, and explosives. Defense of our country

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<v Speaker 2>against aggression abroad and inflation at home depends on our

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<v Speaker 2>ability to fill both our military and civilian requirements. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>the better we produce, the stronger we grow.

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<v Speaker 3>You have just heard drag met a series of authentic

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<v Speaker 3>cases from official files. Technical advice comes from the Office

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<v Speaker 3>of Chief of Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police

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<v Speaker 3>Department Technical Advisors. Captain Jack Donahoe, Sergeant Marty Winn, Sergeant

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<v Speaker 3>Frans Racer. Heard Tonight where Harry Bartel Stacey, Harris, Jack

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<v Speaker 3>Rushin script by Jim Mosey, music by Wilter Schuman. Hell

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<v Speaker 3>give me speaking.

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<v Speaker 6>There's more adventurous entertainment with Nightbeat.

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<v Speaker 5>Next on NBC.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Back. Well, Martin Milner was unable to appear. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was illness or a scheduling conflict, we don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but given the short length of the Bill Lockwood incumbency,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit unfortunate. Now, of course, Frank Smith would

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<v Speaker 1>become Friday's new partner, although not Frank Smith as we

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<v Speaker 1>hear him here. But it is fair to say that

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<v Speaker 1>Web was pretty well settled on that being name and

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<v Speaker 1>fairly quickly. In June nineteen fifty two, the Dragnet comic

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<v Speaker 1>strip was launched and it featured Friday having a partner

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<v Speaker 1>of Frank Smith, and that would be a theme where

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the predominant name, even as they tried

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<v Speaker 1>a couple different actors in the particular part, so it

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<v Speaker 1>begins to look more and more like Frank Smith, whoever

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be. I do have to say regarding

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<v Speaker 1>or criminal, I don't think anyone should be a criminal,

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<v Speaker 1>but that goes double a and shriplay for those of

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<v Speaker 1>us who are distinctly identifiable. I know that there are

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few people for whom it's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a pastime to look at local booking photos and people

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<v Speaker 1>who really really do stand out. And a few things

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<v Speaker 1>stand out, like prematurely a grain man in his twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least few things dead back in nineteen fifty two,

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<v Speaker 1>people have found a whole lot of other, even more

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<v Speaker 1>distinct ways to stand out. Now, whether his partner had

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<v Speaker 1>told all or not, there's a good case to argue

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<v Speaker 1>or to imagine that they were making up a story

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<v Speaker 1>to get a confession. I think they were doing the

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<v Speaker 1>guy a favor. Whether that was their intention or not,

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, he was going to jail regardless because he

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<v Speaker 1>was just too recognizable not to. But at least he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take the full heat alone. All right, Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>it's time to think Orreon supporter of the day, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank Jeffreary, Patreon supporter since October twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, currently supporting the podcast at the Detective Sergeant

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<v Speaker 1>level of seven dollars and fourteen cents or more per month.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for your support, Jeffrey, And that will do it

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<v Speaker 1>for today. If you are enjoying the podcast, please follow

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<v Speaker 1>rate and review the podcast wherever you download it from.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet,

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<v Speaker 1>but join us back here tomorrow for yours truly, Johnny

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<v Speaker 1>dollar Ware.

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<v Speaker 10>It'm five a buck and a half for a cab

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<v Speaker 10>is seven twenty seventy fifty first a real fancy place

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<v Speaker 10>and the dramin were enough go bray to think a battleship.

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<v Speaker 10>I showed him my credentials and he has the elevator

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<v Speaker 10>boy taking it to the single apartment on the whole

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<v Speaker 10>seventh four.

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<v Speaker 5>Aheads.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it does open like it usually is? Yes,

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<v Speaker 9>bling bling, Hello.

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<v Speaker 11>Anybody eighteen?

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<v Speaker 9>Pretty same one who's in a Randy Singer in homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>This is your host, Adam Graham's son and all