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Speaker 1: The following presentation Isndel Marvis Studio's production.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the fact Hunter Radio Network. Here is

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your host, George Hobbs. Welcome back truth seekers from around

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the world. It's time for another edition of the fact

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Hunter podcast. As we record on this Monday, April sixth,

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twenty twenty six. We have a very interesting topic today,

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and I think we have broached it once or twice

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over the last five or six years. I think we've

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had a guest or two who have come on and

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given their thoughts on this, and I wanted to start

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with this. There's always been, you know, this tension between

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the authority of God and the authority of earthly governments.

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As Christians, as followers of Christ, we believe our rights

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ultimately come from God, not from men, not from core,

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not from constitutions. The Scripture tells us that we are

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created in the image of God, endowed with dignity, conscience,

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and moral responsibility. At the same time, the Bible does

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teach that governments exist by God's permission to maintain order

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in a fallen world. So that does create an important

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question when do we submit and when do we stand up?

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Romans thirteen, which is cited all the time. I was

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talking to Matthew before we hit the record button. Chuck

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Baldwin has an awesome multi video series on Romans thirteen

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really lays it out well. If I remember, I'll link

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that in the show notes as well. But you know,

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also there's several other scriptures that we could cite, right

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Acts five twenty nine that records the Apostle saying that

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we auto obate God rather than man. So these truths

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are not contradictions. They formed the boundary line. So when

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government operates within its God ordained role of justice and

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order Christians, I think people would say, sure, we can

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submit in good conscience. But boy, when you reflect on

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the history of this country, you know, and you see

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all the laws that conflict with God's commands believers throughout

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the sixty five hundred Yearish history here on earth, have

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you know stood up? You look at the Hebrew midwives

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defying Pharaoh Daniel, praying despite the king's decree. The famous

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one polycarp right eighty six years old, and they say, hey,

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just you know, Hail Caesar, and we'll move on with

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their day. And he said, no, the Lord has had

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my back for eighty six years. I'm not going to

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turn on him now. And they killed him just because

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he refused to obey a law that was the law

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at the time. The early Church refused to worship Caesar

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and it had consequences. Their loyalty to God came first.

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So today our guest is Matthew and his YouTube channel

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is called the Armed National. We're talking about those things.

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Where do our God given rights speak in? Where does

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civil authority end? Not only that, but what can we do?

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So many of us are caught in this web where

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I think many of us are like conservative backgrounds, and

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I think a lot of us and I'm not speaking

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for you, Matthew before I bring you on, but a

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lot of us like we're conned by Trump right twenty sixteen,

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they put us that, they put him against the most

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evil woman in the world, and we were going to

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make America great again, and we were going to end

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wars and taxes, we were going to get doze checks

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and all of these other things, and of course, you know,

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nothing happens. So these are important questions we should ask.

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Right should we think about sovereignty? How should we think

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about freedom and obedience in a world where legal systems

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and biblical principles, pardon me, don't always align. So with

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all that being said, again, I want to welcome our

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guest today. It's Matthew from the Armed National YouTube channel.

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The links to his YouTube channel and his email will

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be in the show notes as always. What do you say, Matthew?

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It's good to see again.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Good to see you too. How you doing good?

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Speaker 2: Good? You know? Would you like to first introduce yourself

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and then kind of your thoughts on what I had

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just kind of thrown out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure. So my name is Matthew. I'm in Tennessee,

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and I've been studying into this kind of journey of

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state citizenship and our American government for about almost the

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last three and a half four years now, and I'm

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just trying best to I've just recently started a series

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on my YouTube channel. I've only done an introduction so far,

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but I'm going to be uploading a lot more on

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the process of my journey, what I've done, what I've

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come across, what worked, what hasn't, my experiences and things

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like that, just to help a lot of other people

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kind of understand what our government is and what they've

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done and the steps we can actually take, as you know,

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free men and women here on this land and soil,

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to still be relatively a bit more free than typically

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we're allowed to based on the privileges that they've given us,

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and change the constitution, et etcetera. So so, yeah, that's

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basically my kind of goal on that YouTube channel. And yeah,

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because it's quite a lot of information. I've tried to

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condense it as best I can, But yeah, do you

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have any questions to start off with?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the first question would be was

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there a particular event or did you just see the

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world in a different way? I guess what started your

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journey into this? And is sovereign citizen? Is that the

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correct terminology?

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Speaker 1: Not necessarily, because sovereign citizen is an oxymoron in the

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you look up the term citizen and legallyese, it kind

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of comes down to like a slave. But it's very

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important to make the clear distinction that in our Constitution

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has penned in the articles and everything. We were first

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called citizen of the United States of America. That's very

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different to what we're called today as a US citizen,

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was meant to be freedom. We were sovereign. We were

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all considered sovereign. We were not lesser than the king

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and everything when we resisted against the crown all that.

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terms of the differences between the meanings of person, individual,

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citizen and why I used the term state citizen of

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you know, your state for United States of America. But

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I'll still tell people I'm a citizen of the United

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States of America. You basically just don't want to say

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you're a US citizen or Fourteenth Amendment citizen, that those

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are fraudulent. The others in the Constitution and everything else,

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that's technically what we are.

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Speaker 2: So what started your journey into all this again? Was

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there one particular event or was it just a frustration

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of seeing the way our world was going? What led

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you into researching it?

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Speaker 1: Was definitely both. But I think the older I got

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and the more I got into studying freedom, liberties and

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slavery and just history in general, I've started to understand

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that what we're told in history is not necessarily the truth,

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and usually it's the victims that write the story, and

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it's his story, not ours, and uh, you know, it's

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kind of hard to decipher through all of that. But

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when you look into the even just the origins of

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the American government and our American country, even with what

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they've given us, you can tell that we do not

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actually have the freedoms and liberties that we've been promised

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not only by in our you know, constitution and everything

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from my founding fathers, but they got those from God's

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law and the Bible. So we have these rights by birth,

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by from God, not from government. And I think that

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kind of distinction that I made as I got older

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and really like trying to think of things and seeing

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that the world's not what it seems, I had to

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start looking deeper into things, and I come to realize,

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basically everything that you're taught about history and government and

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America has basically been inverted and it's upside down. And

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they've convinced all of us to say that we're one

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thing when we're not, and they changed it since birth, basically,

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that kind of sparked my rage, to put it lightly,

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and it made me. It forced me to really learn

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my rights as a person. And the more I dived

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into learning my rights during COVID, the more I actually realized, Oh,

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it's not just a right to breathe and not wear

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a mask, or a right to body the autonomy and

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not get vaccinated. It's a right to live as a

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free human man or woman based on what God gave

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us our creation and everything.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's all great. And you know, I always

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say that the Deckler and not the Constitution. Pardon me.

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It is a great document on paper sands the original document.

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Let me just say that, not all the additions. But

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even so, a constitution is a binding agreement between a

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government and its people, and they haven't honored that document

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and I don't know how long. Obviously the biggest blow

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talking about today is based on the I think it's

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called the Washington, DC Organic Act of eighteen seventy one. Right,

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that's really where the United States government went public, almost

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became a corporation. I guess went private would be the

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correct terminology, but I still think before that a lot

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of our history was a lie. It was founded by Freemasons.

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the infamous, the British are coming and the folks who

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did the Boston Tea Party that was arranged by Freemasons.

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the original document that they were using you to govern,

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the thirteen Copies, it was a great document because there

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was no real central authority with any power, and the

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Constitution usurped that. And what we see today is, I mean,

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the federal government is the largest employer in the country.

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Then the state has so many employees. And over the

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last you know, ever since the Fed so that was

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nineteen thirteen, the last one hundred and thirteen years, we've

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become a welfare society and at some point it's going

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to collapse, and when it does collapse, it's going to

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be ugly. So with all that being said, when you

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hear state citizen sovereign citizen, people react in a certain way.

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to mocking people who want to get outside of the system.

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championing because you're so dedicated to your individual freedom that

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you're literally and I'm not over you know, stating this

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is that you're willing to risk your freedom in order

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to stand up and make a stand. Am I wrong

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Speaker 1: No, you're correct on that. I've even gone a step

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further where I don't pay ftal taxes or state taxes anymore.

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I did it legally and lawfully. But that doesn't mean

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those corrupt government officials still trying to encourage their tyranny.

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terms of like back from eighteen seventy one, that's basically

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our country kind of went severely downhill during the times

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of Abraham Lincoln. And you know, Thirteenth Amendment was what

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made everyone equally like actually free, but the fourteenth Amendment

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made everyone equally a slave. And that's a lot of things.

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of people don't realize that and just how detrimental Abraham

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Lincoln was too country and that was during the time

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of the slaughter House cases and a bunch of other

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stuff that if you haven't read the slaughter House Cases before,

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I recommend looking into that because you will learn a

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they're not really sure what I'm talking about. To kind

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of really make this simplified, just to start off, it

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would help to say that from eighteen seventy one, I

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would say, from seventeen seventy six, and we kind of

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declared our you know, independence, so to say, and we

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did the Decoration of Independence, and I founding fathers wrote

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that from seventeen seventy six up until eighteen seventy one,

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we were more or less considered totally free. We are

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a sovereign We our own, our own individual men and

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woman doing what we wanted. We had our land, we

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did what we want, we fought back, we you know,

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we stood up for what we believed we had our

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rights and everything. But when eighteen seventy one came around,

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country of America. So it split off into two branches

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of government, you have the dejour government, which is the private,

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sovereignty where we're not ruled by anybody. We're our own person,

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our own I would say, I don't even want to

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use that word either, but our own free men or

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free women, our own individual, you know, created by God.

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we are still living by and large, about ninety eight

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percent of the whole entire population of America is living

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in the de facto government, which is just a corporation.

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So this is how they can tweak the constitution and

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policies and statutes and codes and everything you can possibly

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think of and still technically get away with it, because

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every state has its own constitution pre eighteen seventy one,

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and then every single state has additional ones amended and

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added on post eighteen seventy one, and everyone is operating

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off the post eighteen seventy one constitutions for their respective state.

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And that is why people are getting, you know, put

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in their jurisdiction to have to obey these unjust laws,

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and you know, apply for licenses, permits and get permission

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to do things, because that's what a permit or a

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license is. It grants you permission to do something that

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otherwise would have been totally free to do. You're just

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having to do it because agoment told you too so,

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and you can't do this unless you are within their jurisdiction.

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And during eighteen seventy one, the Againic Act that you

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were talking about, that is when the whole entire government decided,

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we don't want everyone to be free, we need to

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have some sort of over this. So they initiated that.

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And what that did was meant from every person who

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was born from eighteen seventy one onwards, they created a

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system of generating them a birth certificate so they could

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technically or register you into the jurisdiction of the Washington

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District of Columbia, which is only like ten square miles.

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So that's basically what's happened, because before then it was

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just a birth of record or just oh yeah, i'm alive,

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I'm a living man or woman. I'm right here. You

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can physically see me. But you know, before then they

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would have records of stuff like that in Rome, whatever,

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but like in America, it was just you're born, you live,

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you die, that's it. You're free. But they didn't want that.

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So that's basically kind of how it progressed. Tried to

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summarize that best I could, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, you did really well. Yeah, that's interesting. The Slaughterhouse cases.

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That was a landmark US Supreme Court decision which ruled

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pardon me that the privileges or immunity clauses of the

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Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution only protects the legal

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rights that are associated with federal US citizenship, not those

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that pertain to state citizenship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the few documents that actually shows

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an actual, physical, like evidence based distinction between state citizens

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and US citizens because people say, oh, it doesn't exist.

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State citizens are just people, you know, pretending, But it's

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it's very clearly there in the Supreme Court cases in

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our history. So people who say that it isn't or

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it doesn't exist, they just haven't learned the history properly.

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So that's why I reference that because it's very important

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to understand that it is a proper term and it's

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what we were called before, the citizen of the United

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States of America and all that stuff, and you know,

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US citizen in all caps and Fourteenth Amendment citizen. Those

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two things are fraudulent and they're fictional. They're all corporations.

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They're basically saying you're you're you and I were a

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corporate entity on paper, even though we're a living man

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or woman's right. You know, it's what people refer to

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as like a straw man or an anes leigas. You know,

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that's basically what that is.

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Speaker 2: So when someone asked you, you had mentioned earlier that

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you're you say, you're a citizen of the United States

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of America. But are you also as a citizen of

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your state or you know, when you go through all

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of this paperwork like you did, Well, what's the difference

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between you saying that you're you're a citizen of the

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United States of America or you're a citizen like myself

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in Delaware or Hawaii or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Everyone, whatever state you're born in, you're a state

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citizen of that state, that Republic state. So I'm a

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state citizen of the Republic state of Tennessee. All right,

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But you're also as an American born on the land

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in soil the fifty states. You are a citizen of

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the United States of America as penned in the Constitution,

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even pre eighteen seventy one when that was coined in,

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that's the term, that was the proper term. The problem

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is nowadays post eighteen seventy one, that the government uses

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the term US citizen and all caps or Fourteenth Amendment citizen,

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and that's connected to a solid Security number which they

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generate for you without your consent on birth as well,

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and that ties you in further to their jurisdiction. So

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everyone has been duped to believe, Oh, are you a

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US citizen? Tick yes? And they tick yes on the

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W four, the W nine, ten ninety nine work, whatever

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it is you know to register to vote. Are you

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a US citizen? Well you're supposed to tick no and

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say you're a citizen of the United States of America

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because only citizens of the United States of America can

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technically vote. But everyone who's tacking yes to the US

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citizen on those things, they're saying they're a US citizen

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or Fourteenth Amendment citizen just voting for a CEO of

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the corporate business of United States District of Columbia. That's

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basically that distinction there. They're just basically they've you know, manipulation.

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They've convinced people and coerced them to believing that this

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is their lie, their truth, their entire life from birth

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up till now. So no one really knows any difference

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any different until you actually do the research and look

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back and go, oh, this isn't correct, and then you

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have to go correct your status and tell the US

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Department of State I learned all this, this is all incorrect.

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I don't want to commit perjury anymore because now I

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know this to be true. I need this corrected to

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state citizen to reflect that instead of being a US

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citizen because I'm not that anymore. I realized I'm this

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because I was born in this land, and that's that.

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That's basically what you do.

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Speaker 2: So I was doing some research. I want to start

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with birth certificates, if you will. They didn't even start

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here in this country tracking berths until interesting enough, right

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about that time between eighteen sixty eighteen seventy. Nationwide standard

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birth registration wasn't established until the early nineteen hundreds, the

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date that really stood out to me. All states had

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to comply by nineteen thirty three, which is basically when

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the New Deal and everything else took off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no coincidence, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely So. I've heard from people saying that when

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you're born, obviously the birth certificate is printed out, but

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then you become a commodity or something to that effect.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard that, Yes, there's there's okay, so part

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of that matters, part of it doesn't matter at all.

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And what I mean by that is, when we're born,

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we get a birth of record, and that would basically

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be your ultimate document. Unfortunately we don't get given that anymore.

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The hospital keeps it. They can give you a copy

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if you request it, if your parents request it, but

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then they turn that birth of record into a certificate

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of live birth or also known as a long form

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birth certificate. It's going to have all the information on it.

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I've got a couple of myself. I got copies from

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my local county because I was born here in the

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city I now live in, so I can just walk

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in and get it. If you can't walk in and

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get it in the place that you were born, so

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you moved into the state, you just go on vital

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records and you can check that and actually get copies

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sent to you with all this information on. It has

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a bunch more information. It's spelled almost the size of

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an A four page because normally they'll give you a

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short firm birth certificate, which is just a condensed, smaller

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little piece of paper with a little seal on it

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saying you're good to go, you're a life. But it's

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just yeah. But what's important is on that certificate of

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live birth or that long form birth certificate. It has

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the differences between your date of birth. The living man

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a woman like I'll have my birth on it. I'll

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use my different birth name, so birth date say I

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was born on May fifteenth, nineteen ninety two. But then

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I'll have another date on it, saying registrar date. It's

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the date that the registrar. When you have to look

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up that word too, it basically means someone who's in

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control of another person and that that registrar and legal

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ease is important because that gives you the date that

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your straw man or your ahns legis was fraudulently created

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without your consent. So it's usually a couple of days

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after your birth date or up to a week. Mine

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was just two days after my original birth date. So

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let's say mine was May seventeenth, and it has the

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registrar date May seventeenth on it. That was the birthdate

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of my ansligas, my all caps named my straw man,

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my fictional entity, the corporation of the person. All right,

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and it's important to go I could quickly I think

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I have this written written down somewhere, because it'll be

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important to just quickly go into some definitions for that.

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Let's see. Yeah, so I spent quite a bit of

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money on Black Slaw dictionaries because those are very important

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to understanding legal ees in terms of law and the

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legalities of the system. And you don't really if you

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look up these words person on Google, it's only going

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to give you the you know, Wikipedia or the Basic

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Dictionary words that were using today. But in Black Slaw Dictionary,

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fourth Edition, the word person means a man considered according

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to the rank he holds in society, with all the

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right to which place he holds, entities him and the

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duties which which it imposes. And it talks about how

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the person can also be like an entity, a corporation

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or a business as well, or a trust, and a

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lot of people don't realize that that's the case because

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that kind of what's what that long form birth certificate does.

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In that RESISTRAR date, it's turning you from a living

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man or a living woman into a person which is

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a fictional business entity or a corporation. And then from

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that they can connect the Social Security number that they

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give you if your parent asks for it or consents

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to having them issued one, and that ties you in

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because in law, a living man a woman cannot actually

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be taxed. We can't be forced to do things because

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it would be slavery. But in law they can tax

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a business or corporation. So all they've done is change

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the legalities through that to force people into paying taxes

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and stuff.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. You laid it out very clearly and

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it makes a lot of sense. And it's not a

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coincidence that ninety five percent of the politicians in Washington,

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DC are lawyers. Right, They're not plumbers, they're not business

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I mean there's a few businessmen, but most of them

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have these law backgrounds. And it's all of these loopholes

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that are used to inject into this country to get

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people to believe that they're doing there right. It's you know,

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we're a citizen of the US. It's our duty and

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our responsibility to pay for our cars to be registered,

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whatever that means. I remember moving back to Delaware and

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paying twelve hundred dollars for my ten year old truck

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to be registered. And every two years the government has

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to say, yes, your car's safe, and you have to

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pay for your tags, and you have to buy a

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license to go fishing. And again, I think there's nothing

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wrong with having a community agreement with hey, maybe we

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shouldn't drive faster than thirty five miles an hour in

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this street, or you know those kind of laws, and yes,

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maybe we should all pitch into help with this or that.

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But when you have a government that is central, that

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is untouchable, that is basically a mafia run type of entity,

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and you have no way of accountability, I think there

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comes a point where we all have to stop and

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say we can't keep just passing the buck to the

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next generation. I think we have to do something. Just

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look what's going on in the world today. We're bombing

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Iran because well depends on which you know, we've gotten

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seventeen different answers. We've been bombing the Middle East for

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thirty five years. We claim to be one nation under

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a God, but you look what goes on in this country.

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I question that, And you know, I think this is

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important that we take this subject seriously. So you know,

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back to you, Matthew, where do people start? Where do

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they look? And how do they know that the guidance

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that they're getting is actual true guidance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's a lot to go into. And I

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would say before I actually took physical action to get

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a new passport, a diplomatic US passport, get my status

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collected to the US Department of State, and also stop

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doing federal taxes, I studied it for over three years.

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So I will say that knowledge is very important, and

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you need to put in the time and the effort

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and actually have the will to understand our history and

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really understand all of these terms and everything that the

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US government has done, because what is that One of

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My favorite Bible verses is Proverbs three thirteen. It says

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happy is the man that findeth wisdom and the man

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that getteth understanding. And I can honestly say that before

479
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,000
knowing all of this, I wasn't as happy as I

480
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,200
thought I knew I could have been, because I feel

481
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,039
like God has put us on this earth to enjoy

482
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:51,240
His creation and to live and prosper and you know,

483
00:29:51,319 --> 00:29:53,519
be fruitful and multiply. That is what he commands us

484
00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:59,319
to do, and it's important to I know that's going

485
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,839
to be a lot of peopleeople who may not be

486
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,359
necessarily religious, but I will say that if you go

487
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,240
deep into this rabbit hole and understanding of the US government,

488
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:11,880
there is no way to deny that all our freedoms, liberties,

489
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,559
and rights has come from the Bible itself, and that

490
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,240
is what this country has founded off. Whether you're an

491
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:20,440
atheist or not, that's something you will have to come

492
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,559
to terms with. If you want to truly be more

493
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,079
free in this country, you will have to understand the

494
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:29,880
origins of that. And that has just led me down

495
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,640
that path as understanding that you're going to have to

496
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:36,799
You're going to have to put some time into this,

497
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:41,079
and you're going to have to reflect and allow yourself

498
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,799
to be humbled quite a bit to listen to what's

499
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:48,440
being told and what's in the Bible and what's in

500
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,279
the laws and the Constitution and what all of that details.

501
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:55,200
And once you're you think you're ready to take on

502
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,640
that monumental task, you're just going to have to take

503
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,039
a step step And I would start getting your diplomatic

504
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:09,799
US passport first. That takes about when you understand how

505
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,200
to do everything. It only takes about three weeks to

506
00:31:12,279 --> 00:31:15,880
expedite it. And once you get that that, actually you

507
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,839
are technically the most free you can be in this country.

508
00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:23,960
Now you have to understand all of the laws and

509
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,640
how to enforce those laws and your rights once you

510
00:31:27,839 --> 00:31:31,559
have them, Otherwise you'll just get trampled over and end

511
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,680
up doing whatever you're told anyway. So that's the big distinction.

512
00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:38,640
So I would say, you know, start with asking yourself

513
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,799
if you're truly ready to be fully responsible for your

514
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,039
self and your freedom, and if you can answer that honestly,

515
00:31:47,319 --> 00:31:51,240
then start looking into how to get the passport. And

516
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:54,759
then you just need to take your time and reflect

517
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,480
on that. And I would definitely, especially if you're a

518
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,680
religious person, just pray to God and ask for guidance,

519
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,400
because he will guide you and chill you the way.

520
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point you had mentioned earlier about

521
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:11,839
the nation's founding. Somebody mentioned me a while ago, and

522
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,599
I find it fascinating. Article eleven of the seventeen ninety

523
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:22,079
seven Treaty of Tripoli, which was written by Joel Barlow

524
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:26,680
eventually signed by President John Adams in seventeen ninety ninety seven,

525
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:33,400
basically saying that you know, this nation wasn't founded, you

526
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:37,039
know under you know, as a Christian nation. I had

527
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:38,680
it in front of me just a second ago. Now

528
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,160
I can't find where I had it, but I've mentioned

529
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,359
it on this podcast before. I think most people are

530
00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:48,319
aware that that treaty, which again it was piracy and

531
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:52,160
everything else. I think there was even slavery involved in it.

532
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,759
But that document article Leedden eleven says that we weren't

533
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:58,480
founded as a Christian nation. Have you seen that document?

534
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,839
I've may have mentioned it the that's time we talked.

535
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: H Yeah, I've heard about that document and I haven't

536
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,359
fully looked into it, but I am aware of stuff

537
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,160
like that, especially like even George Washington was a Freemason. Yeah.

538
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,079
So it's one of those things where you look at

539
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,119
all the principles and everything of our constitution and stuff,

540
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,960
and how our finding fathers did put God into it

541
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,119
and everything. But the problem is there's just so many

542
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,160
layers of deception, and you know, it's hard. You have

543
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,319
to stay focused. That's why I'm saying for people who

544
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:35,160
truly want to do this, I do strongly believe that

545
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,680
the focus needs to be God first, because if he's not,

546
00:33:39,559 --> 00:33:42,400
you can get trapped and lost in a bunch of

547
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,559
these other, you know, quack job people who are saying,

548
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,279
do this to get your freedom, or pay me a

549
00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,680
thousand dollars for this course, and then you kind of

550
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,960
get wrapped into a whole sea of fantasy where it's like, cool,

551
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,279
I don't have to do anything up again, I'm totally free.

552
00:33:57,319 --> 00:34:00,559
It's like, well, not really. You have to learn, like

553
00:34:01,079 --> 00:34:03,640
God put us on this earth. It's it's it's a

554
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,160
it's a big test, and we can't just like blindly

555
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,760
do things without thinking. We have to really think about

556
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,760
what we're doing and what it means for us to

557
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,159
you know, do this whole process. So I just think

558
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,480
in nowadays time, this is one of the best things

559
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,920
you can do to become the most quote unquote free. Obviously,

560
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,719
we're never going to fully be free until we get

561
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,159
to heaven, but that's just in terms of this topic,

562
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,559
the state's citizenship. It is very, very possible for someone

563
00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:37,800
who wants to do that and live a more free life.

564
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,719
And I will say I've been doing this now for

565
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,280
it's been almost four years, but I've been studying it,

566
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,039
but I've been living this for almost half a year,

567
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:52,159
and my life has been insurmountably better in every way

568
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,880
I can possibly think of, even conversing with police, not

569
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,280
doing federal taxes anymore, talking to my accountant, set payroll

570
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:01,840
and form them about the laws, showing them the laws,

571
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,800
showing them things. I've won three civil cases so far

572
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,280
as well, just because I've been able to exercise the law.

573
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,880
I haven't needed an attorney. I just use myself. Like

574
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,760
you learn a lot how to handle yourself and become

575
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,039
more free, and I think that is what is very

576
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,440
attracted to a lot of people. You just have to

577
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,000
realize that do you want it or do you want

578
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:24,840
to be taken care of by the government is kind

579
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,800
of what it bloils down to.

580
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:31,559
Speaker 2: So that's interesting. So again, when you talk about this,

581
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,199
is this just strictly to do with the federal government

582
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,079
or your state's right as well? Like I've seen many

583
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,400
people who say they don't get a driver's license, the

584
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,159
tags and all of this other stuff that does that

585
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,800
extend to that as well.

586
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: Yes, it can extend to as many things as you

587
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:55,440
want it to. I am I'd say about seventy percent

588
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,119
of the way there to getting rid of my license

589
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,639
plate and my driver's license because I realized that it's

590
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,599
just another contract that locks you into the jurisdiction. But

591
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,400
it's a complicated one and it's often a lengthy process

592
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:11,519
of getting arrested a few times and go into court

593
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:16,039
and then you know, presenting yourself and then getting the

594
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:19,519
charges dropped. They always drop them every single time because

595
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,559
you're not committing a crime. You can only be arrested

596
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:25,000
as a state citizen for common law injuries, which is

597
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,920
if you injure someone else, steal someone's property, or damage

598
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,519
or property, or if you're lying basically in abusing contracts those

599
00:36:32,559 --> 00:36:36,000
three things, which is basically similar to you know, the

600
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:38,599
Bible's teachings where we're not supposed to murder or steal

601
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,920
or abuse other people in those ways either. Apart from that,

602
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:45,559
it's not even a crime, like there's even court cases.

603
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,119
I have a bunch of tabs open. I'm going to

604
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:51,519
see if I can find it really quickly. But there

605
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:56,440
are let's see here, Yeah, there's there's a there's a

606
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,559
bunch like eving. So speeding, running stop signs, track without

607
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:03,760
license plates or registration are not threats to the public

608
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,559
safety and thus on not arrestable offenses. And that was

609
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:12,519
Christy versus Elliott two sixteen. Blah blah blah. I can

610
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:15,320
link all these sites that I've done, but those are

611
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,840
just Supreme Court cases. That's not even including the actual

612
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,519
physical United States codes and the uniform commercial codes, which

613
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:26,360
have a plethora I'm talking thousands of pages of like stuff.

614
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,280
If people actually want to look into it, like, you're

615
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,519
not breaking the law when you're doing these things. You

616
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:37,280
do need to be smart and be safe. But if

617
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,559
you're you know, stopping at a stop sign there's no

618
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:43,400
cars and you start turning around, you didn't fully stop,

619
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,719
and then the police pulls you over and then he

620
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,679
gives your ticket for it. There's no engined party, there's

621
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,360
nothing happened. It's just revenue for the county. That's all

622
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,119
it is. Unfortunately, that's what it's become anyway. Police most

623
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:02,079
of the time, especially in Georgia, you'll just get ticketed

624
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,360
all the time for just going five miles prior over

625
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,119
or this or that whatever, Like, there's no injured party.

626
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:12,119
There's no injured there's no crime being committed. In the

627
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,440
original Constitution and the laws, you have to commit a

628
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,320
crime for you to go to court and for you

629
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,360
to be arrested or for anything to be infringed upon,

630
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,559
and an actual federal corporation or the county of a state.

631
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:32,480
It's not an injured party. It can't be. So you

632
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:34,519
might have I go off on a little tangent there.

633
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,519
You might have to clarify again if you want to

634
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:38,119
be to answer a specific question.

635
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 2: No, you're doing great. It's just interesting to me that

636
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:48,800
I'm everything that I've researched into this subject. Eighteen seventy

637
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,320
one is the starting point, but nineteen thirty three to

638
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,760
nineteen thirty six is really when everything took off and

639
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,039
they started. Obviously, when did they start the income tax?

640
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:05,000
Was it like the early nineteen hundreds where you would

641
00:39:05,039 --> 00:39:08,159
just pay one percent of your income. But obviously there

642
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:10,920
was no way to track people's income. So they said, well,

643
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,880
we need to start tracking people. Let's do the birth certificates,

644
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,679
let's do social Security numbers. Let's make the employers file

645
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,960
with us so we can verify their wages. Right.

646
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a long, lengthy process, but they deliberately

647
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,280
did it that way to slowly encroach on people's rights

648
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,719
without them complaining too much. Because obviously, back in the

649
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,280
day it was the tax was the federal tax. A

650
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,039
lot of people don't realize it's not an actual income tax.

651
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:41,440
It's technically an excise tax, and it was during the

652
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,480
time of the war, saying we need to help with

653
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:47,679
the war efforts, so people would voluntarily give to their

654
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:50,639
earnings to help people in the war. And it was

655
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,559
supposed to go away and not surpass like two three

656
00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,760
percent of something like that. And then obviously now today

657
00:39:57,159 --> 00:39:59,719
people are getting tax based on your income tax bracket

658
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,360
up to like forty seven percent or something. And that's

659
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,039
not including sales tax, gas tax, all the other tax,

660
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:09,320
death tax, birth tax, this tax, tax on tax, there's

661
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,920
so many taxes nowadays. This is clearly not what was

662
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,920
intended for this country. And if the Federal Reserve came

663
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,320
about in nineteen thirteen, that basically steamrolled them to lay

664
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,119
out the foundations and create their fate currency, the Fiat currency,

665
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,599
the US dollar because they wanted to. That's when they

666
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:35,440
also started implementing removing the gold backed on that and

667
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440
also removing the silver. So over time, from nineteen thirteen

668
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:43,719
up to nineteen sixty five, gold and silver was removed

669
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,679
completely from the currency of Americans, which means they are

670
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,480
now being paid in basically worthless paper. And that's where

671
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480
we are today and why the economy is so bad,

672
00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:56,519
because we're paid in something that doesn't exist. We're paid

673
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:59,159
in debt currency. Like I think our country is now

674
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,880
almost forty two trillion dollars in debt and technically we're

675
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,760
in insolvency but not officially, but we basically are.

676
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:13,039
Speaker 2: So Yeah, that was such I wish I could go

677
00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:18,280
back in time. Obviously, there's many instances in history. Did

678
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,920
the Titanic really hit an Iceberg? Or was it blown up?

679
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,360
But look at April fifth, nineteen thirty three, FDR signed

680
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:31,280
Executive Order sixty one oh two that was forcing citizens

681
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:38,280
to surrender their gold boion, their certificates to the Federal Reserve,

682
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,320
which is not federal. This should anger people, and this

683
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:45,000
we're almost one hundred years past this. And I always

684
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,840
talk about we never get accountability. How are we a

685
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,400
free country. When a guy says you have to turn

686
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,280
in your gold, your boyon and whatever certificates you have

687
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,440
to that the Federal Reserve. That dude, if I went,

688
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,079
that's stealing, that's theft. And the other thing. By the way,

689
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,960
the Social Security Number that was created in nineteen thirty six.

690
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,760
And I always say, they make it sound so nice,

691
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,400
like the Patriot Act that's meant to look after us, right,

692
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:24,599
And what they say is it was created specifically to

693
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:31,360
track worker earnings to ensure eligibility of your retirement benefits.

694
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,599
It's all about your benefits. That's why the Social Security

695
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:37,519
Number was created. It had nothing to do with tracking

696
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:40,559
you for a draft or for taxes, just for your

697
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,400
retirement benefits. Yeah.

698
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,599
Speaker 1: They always make it seem like it's a plus and

699
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:51,000
you're getting extra benefits, or you know, this is great.

700
00:42:51,039 --> 00:42:53,400
Why would you not want it? Sign me up, it's free,

701
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:54,920
You're good to go. You're going to have it for

702
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,639
your whole life and when you retire. But you know,

703
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,000
that's just the system they built in, or they're slowly

704
00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:06,239
stripping away your rights that you didn't even realize you have.

705
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,960
Most people today don't even realize that it is one

706
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:14,800
hundred percent, no matter what anyone tells you, it is

707
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,480
one hundred percent a right to travel. It is not

708
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:25,880
a privilege. Driving is a privilege. Driving is operating a

709
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,320
motor vehicle of under commerce. If you have a private

710
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,480
vehicle that you have paid off private automobiles, should I

711
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,559
say you have the right as in Thompson v. Smith,

712
00:43:37,639 --> 00:43:40,679
the case i'll send this link to as well. It

713
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,840
was redacted at a certain point in time, but then

714
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,920
it was released again because it's been a certain amount

715
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,199
of time, so they release it. But it clearly says

716
00:43:48,199 --> 00:43:51,679
in there multiple times we all have the right as

717
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,719
Americans to travel freely with our private automobiles without a

718
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,639
license or permit. And we have been convinced over the

719
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,519
last one hundred plus years slowly that we do not

720
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,599
have these certain rights, that they are privileges, and we

721
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,559
must do what they say to have this privilege. And

722
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,880
it's just it's gotten completely out of control, and it

723
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,000
should enrage more people. But I think it's gotten so

724
00:44:18,199 --> 00:44:21,480
far to the point where so many people don't care.

725
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:24,119
They'd rather just sit at home after their day at

726
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:27,840
work and not think about anything and just watch their

727
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,559
favorite sports team and then you know, have a drink

728
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:33,480
and then go to bed and repeat it the next day.

729
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:36,079
Like everyone's so busy in the system that they've created

730
00:44:36,639 --> 00:44:39,639
that it's a constant hamster reel that they can't get

731
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,760
out of until you just like shut the machine off

732
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,480
and say, hey, look right outside the cage. Yeah, all

733
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,039
that stuff is free. You can just go do it.

734
00:44:46,559 --> 00:44:48,199
You don't have to be stuck in this cage they

735
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:48,679
made you.

736
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: Like in dyaln versus the State, I'm just kind of

737
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,519
breezing through this. He was stopped at a checkpoint. He

738
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:03,360
wasn't even beating drinking and driving, just one of these checkpoints,

739
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:05,239
and he was asked to produce a license.

740
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, who is this again?

741
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,119
Speaker 2: Sorry? I thought this was the case that you would

742
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:18,000
just mentioned a Supreme Court Dalen versus the State or oh.

743
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,679
Speaker 1: No, I said, Thompson versus Smith Thompson.

744
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: Why did I clicked on that?

745
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,639
Speaker 1: Let me I have it somewhere here.

746
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,679
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, it took me to another case that

747
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,280
was the same type of thing. He refused to give

748
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,280
me his ID because he was a checkpoint. He didn't

749
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,079
get pulled over fere.

750
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a side tangent. But even checkpoints. They're all

751
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:39,039
on the constitutional you don't even have to do anything

752
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:42,960
with those nowadays. I just sometimes I hope I do

753
00:45:43,039 --> 00:45:45,000
get pulled over and arrested, because then I can file

754
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,360
them deprivation of rights of color of law eighteen Nited

755
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,960
States Code two four one two four two, depending if

756
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,719
it's one or more police officers, and then you can

757
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,800
put a lien on them and then they let you

758
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,639
go and you get money for it. So if people

759
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,599
like understood their rights and not let your rights get trampled,

760
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,239
then you got nothing to worry about. The problem is

761
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,800
the government has put fear into everybody right and it's

762
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,679
become so inconvenient to use your rights or you're seen

763
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,400
so inconsiderate or so disrespectful or against law and authority

764
00:46:15,039 --> 00:46:18,920
that you're exercising your rights that you have as an American,

765
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,199
as a freeman or a free woman, that people are

766
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,000
just like, Oh, it's okay, I'll just pay the fine.

767
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:26,440
Oh it's okay, don't boy, it's all good. Yeah. But

768
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,039
that's happened over the last one hundred years, and that's

769
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,000
why this country is so messed up and why we're

770
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,519
in the position that we are because people are not

771
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,880
exercising their rights and they don't care anymore. So we

772
00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:43,559
need more people to care. And even though it sounds

773
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:45,719
kind of bleak, I will say, there's about twenty five

774
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,559
million Americans now that are not paying federal income taxes.

775
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,280
So tides are turning. And there's only nineteen US Court judges, so.

776
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:59,679
Speaker 2: They can only handle so many cases, right, exactly. Yeah.

777
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,679
Thompson v. Smith, March thirty first, nineteen eighty six. So wow,

778
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:12,119
so this guy actually sued the policeman, right, so Thompson,

779
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,320
there you go. Thompson sued Spartanburg City policeman Smith Donald

780
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,280
Ee Smith for false arrest and imprisonment. The jury awarded

781
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,000
Thompson ten thousand dollars. We reverse and remand so this

782
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:33,639
seventeen year old bought the car. Wow, that's interesting.

783
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a really good read. I recommend

784
00:47:36,599 --> 00:47:38,400
reading it from start to finish when you have time,

785
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,760
because you'll read some paragraphs. I've read it through. There's

786
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,920
probably about four or five where it's just clearly expressed

787
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,079
by the Supreme Court judges how traveling is a right

788
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,559
and not a privilege, and you don't need a license

789
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:55,800
because a lot of people say that's conspiracy and that's

790
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,719
never been true, but it is true, but they've suppressed

791
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,960
it and redacted so much of the information over the years.

792
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,719
People believe they have to have a driver's license to travel.

793
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,880
You do need a driver's license if you're going to

794
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,159
operate in commerce for profit, like if you're doing uber

795
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,320
or a truck driver or this or that whatever, and

796
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,480
you know, using those for those purposes. But if you're not,

797
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:20,280
it's your own private property, so it's your right. If

798
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,119
you have your car paid off, it's yours. You don't

799
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:24,559
have to register it, you don't have to do all

800
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:27,199
this stuff. You just you know, follow the basic traffic

801
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,000
laws and stuff with as satation, so they say statutes,

802
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,800
but you know, as long as you're not reckless driving

803
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,159
or doing stuff like that, there's no reason for them

804
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:37,840
to pull you over. And everyone everyone was operating fine

805
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,760
anyway before a lot of people got upset that they've

806
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,679
told they couldn't even drink and drive at the same

807
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,119
time back in the day, which obviously you know, it's

808
00:48:46,199 --> 00:48:49,480
not a good idea, but the same thing happens with

809
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,760
the seatbelts. With this, with that, they've infringed upon so

810
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,880
many of our just basic liberties, of just us our

811
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,400
own individual safety. We should be responsible for our safety,

812
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,639
not government. You're basically putting the government in place of

813
00:49:03,679 --> 00:49:06,559
you to take care of you. And if you accidentally

814
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,119
slip up on one little small citation or go over

815
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,719
five miles per hour or all these other nonsense things

816
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,800
they'd created, you know, they give you a fine and

817
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,280
you have to pay it, and then this point to

818
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,159
on your license, and then oh, now it affects your

819
00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:20,280
insurance and I'm paying more insurance. And then that goes

820
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,960
on and on and on, and people, the average American,

821
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,280
they're just trying to get by and earn money from,

822
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:28,480
you know, for their families and things. So it's just

823
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:30,800
gotten totally out of hand. And that's why I just

824
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,840
I feel like it's really necessary to kind of get

825
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,840
this information on the people, to tell them, no, there

826
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:39,199
is a way out. It's not easy, but freedom wasn't

827
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:41,000
ever free. You have to work for.

828
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,519
Speaker 2: It, yeah, for sure. And I think it would be

829
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:48,079
a different story if we had a god fearing government

830
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,800
that wasn't sending the money outs you know every day,

831
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,639
that wasn't manipulating the stock market with making up stories

832
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:58,480
about a deal with Iran is just about just about

833
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:00,880
to be signed, and then every Monday morning for the

834
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,039
last three weeks, Trump has come out before the market

835
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,960
opens and said, I think we got a deal in place,

836
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,320
and the market shoots up. It's all a show and

837
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,639
it's all stage. I think it would be a different

838
00:50:11,679 --> 00:50:15,079
story if a we were taxed very moderately, one or

839
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,280
two percent. I think everybody would be fine with that.

840
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:21,760
But it's theft. We're held up at gunpoint. We're not

841
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,320
given an option. It's the amount that is taken out

842
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:32,079
from people's paychecks when gas is already pardon me, my

843
00:50:32,119 --> 00:50:35,400
allergies are getting today four dollars five dollars a gallon.

844
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Insurance is through the roof. They keep reason property taxes,

845
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,079
which as a whole, that property taxes out of all

846
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:48,320
the taxes is evil because you have someone who is

847
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,159
elderly who's worked all their life to pay off their property,

848
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,679
and now if you don't pay that two or three

849
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,840
thousand dollars, they take all of that equity from you.

850
00:50:57,159 --> 00:50:57,760
It's evil.

851
00:50:59,519 --> 00:51:03,599
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, property taxes is I think one of the

852
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:08,360
worst ones because you can't I mean, they're all pretty

853
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,119
evil when you really look at the core of it.

854
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,239
But you'd think that once you pay for something, that's it,

855
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,239
Like okay, sure, let's pay tax when you first buy it.

856
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,679
You shouldn't have to keep paying it every year because

857
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:23,079
then that means it's not yours, and it's bectly for

858
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,360
people like you say, who have worked the whole entire life.

859
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,840
They're old, they're retired, they don't want to work anymore,

860
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,800
they don't physically they shouldn't be working. They should retire,

861
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,840
enjoy their life. If they miss a payment, well there

862
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,800
goes to the house, it gets repossessed and then you know,

863
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,880
they put a lien on it and everything and they

864
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:43,519
kick them out, like it's just ridiculous. There's i think

865
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:49,159
the seven states now that are proposing to completely remove

866
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,920
or severely reduce property taxes. So there is, you know,

867
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,079
potential good stuff on the horizon, but it's still all

868
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:06,000
within the federal corporation and they can withdraw all of

869
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,360
this at any point when they want. So we need

870
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,559
to go back to a Dajore republican true republic government.

871
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:14,360
And the more people that correct the status to state

872
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,519
citizenship and remove their US citizen term, the quicker the

873
00:52:18,519 --> 00:52:21,079
whole system's going to collapse in that regard, because then

874
00:52:21,159 --> 00:52:23,679
we're going to go back to our proper states of government,

875
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,559
where we can control our local counties and our local

876
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:29,920
states and our own representatives, and we don't have to

877
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,599
be doing these unjust laws all the time that a

878
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:43,199
president or politicians make when we never asked them to.

879
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,199
Speaker 2: That time period nineteen thirty three to nineteen thirty six

880
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,960
really transformed the way our country operated all the way

881
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,239
up until I think it was seventy one or seventy

882
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,039
two when we were taken off the gold standard and

883
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:59,719
the dollar kind of became the petro dollar and what

884
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,840
the world used to exchange with. But the thing is,

885
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,320
the dollar isn't even real. And it's cool for me

886
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,440
to see even the normist of normies come up to me,

887
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:16,079
whether it's after church or wherever, and they're did you

888
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:17,840
know our money isn't even real? Have you ever heard

889
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,079
a fiat currency? Did you know it used to be

890
00:53:20,119 --> 00:53:23,360
backed by gold? And the banks are only required to

891
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,639
hold ten percent of your deposits. And people are really

892
00:53:26,679 --> 00:53:29,599
starting to understand the monetary system, and I think that's

893
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,920
a big first step in getting people to do their

894
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,360
research and understand how man, how reckless our government and

895
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,559
how tyrannical our government has become. And you're right, at

896
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:44,679
some point it's our duty to stand up and say

897
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,599
enough is enough. Otherwise we're passing this on to our

898
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:51,840
children and our grandchildren, and shame on us for allowing that.

899
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,760
What is the way forward? You know, hopefully it's like

900
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,400
the way you said, enough, people getting together and just

901
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,920
saying no. That's the way it's been throughout time. It's

902
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:05,119
getting people together, unified and saying no. But unfortunately we

903
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,320
still have all these people who buy into the left

904
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,159
right narrative. I can't talk to that guy. He's one

905
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:15,199
of those liberal maniacs. He's a trump maga weirdo and

906
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:18,679
all these other things that they used to divide and conquress.

907
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,920
If we could get people focused on the problem at hand,

908
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,920
which is the entire federal government, I think we'd be

909
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,440
able to. But also I think we need to get

910
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,639
people biblically based as well, to have God in their heart,

911
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,280
to have a moral compass to understand, because once you

912
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,719
have that, then you really see how evil some of

913
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,360
this stuff is.

914
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a few points to that. I'll try to

915
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:51,039
remember all of them, but yeah, So that's probably one

916
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:56,440
of the things that switched my mindset from learning all

917
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:03,079
this knowledge to actually taking action. I was praying for

918
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:06,639
a couple of weeks straight, probably every day, asking God

919
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:09,280
what to do in terms of federal taxes, if I

920
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,119
should finally just put myself exempt and with have them

921
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:15,599
no longer withheld, and just continue that and have full

922
00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:20,639
faith in this state citizenship process. And I woke up

923
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,639
one morning it was a week before January first, which

924
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,679
is a new tax year, and I just had this thought.

925
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,119
I was like, well, let's really think about this. Federal taxes.

926
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,639
It pays for foreign wars, foreign unjust wars, pays for murder,

927
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,039
it pays for millions of abortions a year. It pays

928
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:45,119
for all these systems in place in America that we

929
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,519
do not actually have a say or a vote for.

930
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,719
They just decide to spend their money, then the US

931
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,400
tax dollars on whatever they want, whatever they deem necessary.

932
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,760
We don't have any actual voting system, which in itself

933
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,679
is unconstitutional because we don't have a say in where

934
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:03,960
our money goes. It's taxation without representation. Therefore, already it's

935
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,199
going against the standard of the Constitution. And then morally

936
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,119
it's going against the teachings of the Bible for funding

937
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:16,360
all of that stuff as well. And then I just

938
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:19,119
was like, well, you know what, do I fear the

939
00:56:19,159 --> 00:56:23,159
Irs garnishing my money maybe ten years down the road,

940
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,360
or trying to take me to US tax court? Or

941
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:28,880
do I fear looking at Jesus at the ends of

942
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,800
time at the gates of Heaven telling him that I

943
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,239
knew this to be the case, but I didn't take

944
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,079
action and I let it happen anyway, and I kept

945
00:56:37,079 --> 00:56:39,880
funding it, and that kind of swapped it for me

946
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,800
to be like, I'm not really fearful anymore. I really

947
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,440
don't care. I'm ready to prepare to take the IRS

948
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:49,079
on when it comes, but I really don't care anymore.

949
00:56:49,159 --> 00:56:52,000
I was like, when people don't care and they learn

950
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:55,559
and understand where their money is going, they should be

951
00:56:55,599 --> 00:56:58,280
completely outraged and they should want to end it immediately.

952
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,119
And that's basically the point that I came to in time.

953
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:04,760
And I get that a lot of people, you know, financially,

954
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,599
they're in a different that can be in a different state.

955
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,400
I'm married and stuff, I don't have kids yet, and

956
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,199
I feel like I have at least, the more you know,

957
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,599
privileged to be in the position I am to kind

958
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:21,039
of just take that leap of faith financially. But I'm

959
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:23,719
just saying, you know, if you really understand this and

960
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,639
where all the money is going, it should enrage you

961
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:30,760
to the core because people need to stop paying. Everyone

962
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,039
just needs to stop paying, and then it goes away.

963
00:57:33,199 --> 00:57:36,159
Trump is already talking about getting rid of the federal

964
00:57:36,159 --> 00:57:38,800
income tax. He's not talking about that just to make

965
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,880
everyone happy. He's doing that because the amount of Americans

966
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,679
who are now stopping paying it, he's going to have

967
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:47,800
to change his system and remove it completely and introduce

968
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,119
the tariffs. So it's making him seem like the good guy,

969
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,079
but he's just doing it because his hand is forced.

970
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:58,639
Speaker 2: You know, nobody can get around the terriffs because everybody pays. Yeah,

971
00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:00,880
that's a good point. I never thought of that way.

972
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,679
There's twenty five million people not paying taxes. So if

973
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:07,199
we remove taxes, but we just add tariffs, which increases

974
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:09,960
the cost of everything that people use on a daily basis,

975
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,679
everybody's going to pay. Is am I stating that correctly? Partly?

976
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,079
Speaker 1: Yes, But if you've noticed when you pay attention to politicians,

977
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:20,280
and their new policies and everything that they put forward.

978
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:25,159
It's almost always based on the times of the people.

979
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,639
So the people are dictating the actions, but the politicians

980
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:32,960
push it as far as they can before the people react,

981
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,960
and then when they react too much, they have to

982
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,760
completely change the system again. And that's basically where we're

983
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,360
headed now. We're having to again completely change the system

984
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,440
where income taxes. Federal income taxes is going to be

985
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,280
removed and completely abolished, but it's going to be replaced,

986
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,039
probably most likely by tariffs and other means of taxes.

987
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: So there'd be one hundred thousand people out of work

988
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:57,079
or do you think they'll just That's the one thing

989
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,239
I always say when I think of these shifts. There's

990
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:03,800
one hundred thousand, what is it, seventy five to one

991
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:07,800
hundred thousand IRS employees. Are they just going to change

992
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,199
them to tariff overseers or how would that work? Because

993
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,039
that would you know, the stock market would tank, I

994
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:17,199
would think initially if you had one hundred thousand unemployed

995
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:18,400
people overnight.

996
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one hundred thousand IRS unemployed agents sounds good

997
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:22,800
to me.

998
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, don't get me wrong, brother, that's not me.

999
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,239
I'm just I'm thinking outside the box, but they're thinking

1000
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,639
that that would be a glorious day. And if you're

1001
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:32,719
listening and you work for the I doubt that we

1002
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,679
have any I doubt that we have any IRIS agents

1003
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:39,920
listening to this podcast. It'd be interesting if we did

1004
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:42,280
send us an email the fact undertmail dot com if

1005
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:46,039
you work for the IRS. But seriously, there's just so

1006
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:49,480
many things to keep track of. But it really does

1007
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,239
go back. I actually downloaded the Organic Act of eighteen

1008
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,639
seventy one. They have the original that they scanned and

1009
00:59:55,719 --> 01:00:02,360
has been uploaded in the archive dot org, the official

1010
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,519
government one, and it's all in black and white. But

1011
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:09,239
you're right, we like to complain about things, but rarely

1012
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,000
do we put the time and effort. I mean we

1013
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:13,320
all of us, including myself, put the time and effort

1014
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:19,039
into researching and developing a you know, some type of

1015
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,360
answer to these things. And I think that's really what

1016
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,599
we need to start doing. And I know that you

1017
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:31,320
have YouTube channels you've leaned on. What's the guy's name, Joe.

1018
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: Joe Lastico. Yeah, he's on Rumble. He's a very good,

1019
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,800
down to earth guy. I would say start with him

1020
01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:40,199
first because He's relatable for a lot of people.

1021
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,199
Speaker 2: And that is helpful to have in this day and

1022
01:00:42,199 --> 01:00:45,880
age with technology and YouTube and rumble and sub stack.

1023
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,000
But how important is it to find like minded people

1024
01:00:49,079 --> 01:00:52,880
in your community to start that foundation, to stand up

1025
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,199
to your state, your county, and then go up from.

1026
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: There just to start. You know, you can do it

1027
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:01,199
on your own, but trust me, you do need a

1028
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:04,840
community because we're we the people in the decoration. For

1029
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,559
our purpose, we need to be unified. That's why I

1030
01:01:08,639 --> 01:01:11,159
used to be big into politics too. And unfortunately I

1031
01:01:11,199 --> 01:01:13,519
did vote for Trump one time, you know, back in

1032
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:16,920
twenty sixteen, but I haven't voted ever since. And every

1033
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,800
time they you know, put those voting ads a registered

1034
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,840
to vote, do this, do that, I'm just like, no,

1035
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,320
thank you, because it's all in control. But you do

1036
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000
need to the power is and the people in us.

1037
01:01:28,719 --> 01:01:31,480
When we unify together, we can change our government. We

1038
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:34,199
can change our counties. We can change our police, we

1039
01:01:34,239 --> 01:01:37,039
can change our judges, we can change our school board,

1040
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,920
we can change what's being given to the education for

1041
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,440
our children. Like all this can only happen if we

1042
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:47,000
unified together. Educate ourselves on our laws and our rights

1043
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,639
and our fundamental liberties of freedom. Once more people do that,

1044
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,119
more people are going to want to do that too,

1045
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,199
because they're going to realize, well, they're doing it, I

1046
01:01:57,239 --> 01:01:59,039
can do it as well. I want to join them,

1047
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:00,960
and I want to live more free. I want my

1048
01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:03,760
kids to be taught things proper. I want to be

1049
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,079
you know, everyone's just gonna want to That's how people

1050
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:11,679
should be living. So I think it just it takes

1051
01:02:11,679 --> 01:02:14,760
people just kind of one, you need to start learning it,

1052
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,599
but then two, yes, you need to try to unify

1053
01:02:17,639 --> 01:02:20,360
that and just spread that knowledge. It's as many people

1054
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,599
as you can and just try to learn together because

1055
01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:25,440
that's the quickest way you can get. Just at least

1056
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:31,119
your local town, village, city, whatever it is changed first,

1057
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,159
because local is the most important. A lot of people

1058
01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:37,119
don't realize Sheriffs and deputies are the only people with

1059
01:02:37,199 --> 01:02:40,480
actual authority of law. They can even tell the irs

1060
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,480
that the whole county is not paying, and then they

1061
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:46,159
don't have to pay. Like if you start local, it

1062
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,559
expands out everywhere else. And there's actually several counties and

1063
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:52,800
cities that don't pay federal income tax because the sheriffs

1064
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,800
said we're not going to and the IRIS has no

1065
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,159
juristics and to step on foot. I can't remember what

1066
01:02:58,199 --> 01:02:59,760
it is, but if you look it up, you should

1067
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,599
be able to find it. There's a county where they

1068
01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:05,000
don't actually pay a penny, which.

1069
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:11,519
Speaker 2: Is pretty cool in federal taxes, I believe. So I think, yeah,

1070
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,840
that's interesting. I'll have to research that. Now this is

1071
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,480
kind of an indirect question, but still at the same time,

1072
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,400
the banks, the bankers are the source really one of

1073
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,599
the greatest sources of all our problems, because you know,

1074
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,880
the Federal Reserve, which you know, Wilson's one of the

1075
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:35,039
top three detriments to our country in its history was

1076
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,519
the Federal Reserve. And then just you know, twenty fifteen

1077
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:45,480
years later, they they're staring down Americans tell them to

1078
01:03:45,519 --> 01:03:53,000
turn in their gold and devaluing the dollar, which is,

1079
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,679
you know, that's our worth in reflection, right, that's what

1080
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:00,440
this country's on, and now it has become so worthless.

1081
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,320
And I don't think people understand, Matthew, that inflation is

1082
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,239
a reflection of what were the dollar is worth. When

1083
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,840
you're paying twenty five dollars for a pizza, when you're

1084
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,280
paying five dollars for a gallon of gas. That means

1085
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,239
your dollar is becoming worth less and less. Correct.

1086
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:23,079
Speaker 1: Yes, I actually did a video on silver a couple

1087
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,079
about a month or two ago on my YouTube channel

1088
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:30,360
explaining the significance of what's actually happening, because just to

1089
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,760
put it into perspective to help the listeners who are

1090
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,840
into this, it's actually really really important and crucial to

1091
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,760
understand because back in like nineteen sixty, the minimum wage

1092
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,800
was a dollar. But back in nineteen sixty they often

1093
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,360
paid the minimum wage of a dollar in currency in

1094
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,280
the fiat currency, but they paid it in physical coins. Well,

1095
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,079
what was in the physical coins ninety percent silver? You

1096
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:56,519
were getting paid in actual value to work today the

1097
01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:01,400
minimum wage in Tennessee, it's like seven something. I calculated

1098
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,480
that compared to nineteen sixty to today of the minimum wage,

1099
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,199
you'd have to work ten and a half hours more

1100
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,920
for that same value to buy one ounce of silver

1101
01:05:13,239 --> 01:05:16,880
compared to back then. So the difference is not only

1102
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,559
in the fact that we no longer have any coin

1103
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,519
or silver or anything backed by gold and on actual

1104
01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:26,360
fiat currency. The difference is that we're actually having to

1105
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,400
work up to ten times more hours for that same

1106
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,119
hour back in nineteen sixty for that same value that

1107
01:05:32,159 --> 01:05:37,719
we're producing today. It's completely astronomical. It's like, it's just

1108
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,679
that kind of blew my mind when I figured that out.

1109
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,440
And that's also why I recommend everyone investing cold and silver.

1110
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:46,280
But that's another topic entirely monetarily.

1111
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've heard that before nineteen sixty the minimum

1112
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,159
federal wage was an hour. I think that law was

1113
01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:58,000
passed five years before, and it was enforced in sixty.

1114
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,159
And again, ninety percent of coins, dimes, quarters, half dollars,

1115
01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:06,719
they were minted with ninety percent silver. And because of

1116
01:06:06,719 --> 01:06:12,559
the intrinsic silver value, right has rose significantly over the years.

1117
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:16,400
With silver booming. Just over the last year, people say

1118
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,840
that silver melt value is fifty seventy seventy five dollars

1119
01:06:21,519 --> 01:06:25,519
And now you're just numbers appear in your bank account.

1120
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:27,719
You're not paid with anything physical anymore.

1121
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is crazy when you tell people, I'm like,

1122
01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:36,800
you can still get silver for free if you want,

1123
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:39,280
and they're like what, I'm like, Yeah, just go use

1124
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,320
your fake via currency and you can produce it for

1125
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,679
something of value and it protects you and it's better

1126
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:45,960
than doing a high old savings account or anything else

1127
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,119
you can think of, or any investment, because now you're

1128
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:52,320
holding something of actual value. So people don't realize that.

1129
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,079
But one else of silver nowadays it's like seventy five

1130
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:57,719
almost eighty dollars. It goes up and down. Yeah, it

1131
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,519
went up to one hundred and twenty something dollars just

1132
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,079
a couple about a month or so ago. And that

1133
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,840
was the time during all the wars and the politics

1134
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,000
and the silver and the technology and everyone freaking out

1135
01:07:09,039 --> 01:07:10,599
and being like we're going to run out of silver.

1136
01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:14,039
It's like, now we're not. It's it's it's everywhere, just

1137
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:19,440
like all the other renewable resources. Yeah. Yeah, it's always

1138
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,679
going to be there, but it's silver is considered the

1139
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:29,440
common man or poor man's currency. Everyone has access to silver,

1140
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,039
and that is what's put there for a reason. Gold

1141
01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:36,840
is considered more the elitees currency. Right. The problem with silver,

1142
01:07:37,199 --> 01:07:40,719
or rather the solution to silver that it produces, is

1143
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,559
it can enable generational wealth transfer for people like you

1144
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:47,360
and me. If the economy crashes and we come into

1145
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,119
a great depression, but you are holding physical gold or

1146
01:07:50,119 --> 01:07:53,000
physical silver, which most likely you and I would have

1147
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,039
more access to silver because we can afford that that

1148
01:07:56,639 --> 01:08:01,079
spike jumps up like there is on the the usdet

1149
01:08:01,159 --> 01:08:02,880
clock dot org I think it is. I don't know

1150
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,280
if it's dot org, dot net I have the exact link,

1151
01:08:07,159 --> 01:08:09,800
but you know you've probably seen it. When you type

1152
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,519
it in, it comes up with a big, huge screen,

1153
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:15,199
has all the numbers of America, has hundreds of different databases,

1154
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,800
all instantly put on their own live but it says

1155
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,800
on there that the actual value of one ounce of

1156
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,640
silver is supposed to be, based on our currency and

1157
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:30,640
our economy, around eleven hundred dollars for one ounce. So

1158
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,720
if there's ever going to be another great depression and

1159
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,600
the system collapses and they have to form a new

1160
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,800
freeat currency or in something, that silver is going to

1161
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,760
be worth that money and you can trade that silver

1162
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,720
in and then you can then you can get a house,

1163
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,439
you can get this, you can get that, you can

1164
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,720
get assets. You can use that stuff for whatever you

1165
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,079
need to. And that's why it's very important to have

1166
01:08:49,159 --> 01:08:52,119
silver and understand the monetary history as well.

1167
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, great point. By the way, we're just coming off

1168
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,920
Holy Week. Matthew twenty six fifteen. Judas Is Scariot was

1169
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:04,279
paid thirty pieces of silver by chief priests to portray Jesus.

1170
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,960
This was likely paid in Tyrian shekels, valued roughly at

1171
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:13,359
four months wages for a labor or the legal price

1172
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:17,319
of a slave in that era, suggesting obviously that's suggesting

1173
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:22,880
the deliberate devaluation of Jesus. But you know, these medals

1174
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,039
have been significant since the beginning of time. Only in

1175
01:09:27,079 --> 01:09:29,279
the last one hundred and twenty years have they been

1176
01:09:29,319 --> 01:09:32,159
able to dumb us down and enough to believe that

1177
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:35,239
this piece of paper is worth something. And it did, right.

1178
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:37,920
It used to be like a receipt. Here's this, You

1179
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,720
can take this to the bank and you can exchange

1180
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,239
it for silver. But now it's just a pretend note.

1181
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: Yes, the actual it's called a Federal reserve note, and

1182
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:53,439
it even states such on the bill. And that's also

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known as a negotiable instrument, which is basically just a

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promise to pay, and that's connected to the uniform Commercial Code.

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And people say, ah, you can't do that stuff. You

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01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,600
can't do negotiable instruments. You can't just sign things and

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,840
make debt disappear. But I'm like a whole country runs

1188
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,560
off negotiable instruments. A whole country's debt, a whole country's fake.

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It works in the sense that it works until it doesn't,

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01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,159
Like at any moment, it could just snap. We're forty

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01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:25,319
two trillion dollars in debt almost like, and people don't

1192
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:29,079
realize that that's the case, and we don't have anything

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01:10:29,199 --> 01:10:33,359
backed by our actual money anymore because it's not money.

1194
01:10:34,079 --> 01:10:36,880
It's the same as monopoly money in my opinion, Like

1195
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,880
it's just paper and the government puts a number on

1196
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,039
it and considers that to be that like the value

1197
01:10:44,079 --> 01:10:47,840
of a nickel. It costs more money to produce a

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01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,680
nickel five cents than it does to make a hundred

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dollar bill.

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Speaker 2: It's nonsense, it really is. And you mentioned, you know,

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,399
our debt has exceeded thirty nine trillion. But the scary

1202
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,920
thing is, you know, they show it every president that

1203
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,159
the debt doubles every single one and this last trillion,

1204
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:11,399
going from thirty eight to thirty nine happened within just

1205
01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:17,600
a few months. So to me, that's saying that when

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I say the end is near, I'm talking about the

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01:11:19,279 --> 01:11:23,920
end of our economy, which I believe is intentional to

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,439
get to the digital based uh, you know, central bank

1209
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,640
coin Are you on board with that.

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Speaker 1: Thought, Yeah, it's it's it's governments have attempted to do

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,359
it for a long time, and I think eventually it

1212
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might happen at some point. I don't know when it will,

1213
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:46,560
but because the problem that if that does happen, that's

1214
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,159
going to be such a monumental change that even for

1215
01:11:49,239 --> 01:11:51,760
their own system of our corrupt government, it's gonna they're

1216
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,640
going to take a big, you know, a big hit

1217
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:58,960
as well for a long time. So this this it's

1218
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:02,520
kind of like, you know, a double led sword. Because

1219
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,319
I would like for the economy just to go poof

1220
01:12:05,399 --> 01:12:09,279
and we could reset. But that's a lot if we

1221
01:12:09,399 --> 01:12:11,680
really sit down and think about it, a lot of people,

1222
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,119
I don't think it hardly most of us are ready

1223
01:12:14,119 --> 01:12:17,000
for that. So I don't wish that to happen as

1224
01:12:17,039 --> 01:12:18,960
it is, and as it stands. If you learn the

1225
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:22,960
stuff about state citizenship and the Uniform Commercial Code is

1226
01:12:23,119 --> 01:12:27,359
especially audicule three of that whole system, you realize that

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we actually do live in one of the best countries

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01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:31,920
in the world. And if you know the laws and

1229
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,960
you can cite things, and you can you can use

1230
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,760
the laws, enact them and enforce them. We're in a

1231
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,319
great position because we as free men and women, do

1232
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:44,119
not actually owe any debt. The debt that is owed

1233
01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:47,000
is the United States government, the Federal District of Columbia

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01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,279
and Washington d C. They owe the debt. And I

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believe the location of debt or in UCC section nine

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dash three oh seven it says the United States. This

1237
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:02,840
is talking about the Federal district. The federal United States

1238
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:09,880
Corporation is located in the District of Columbia. So the

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01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,680
only person who is actually needs to pay the debt

1240
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,199
in the US federal government, not you and me. But

1241
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:19,439
they've made us do that because from the first certificate

1242
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,159
they slapped on the US citizenship, put us in the

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01:13:22,279 --> 01:13:25,760
jurisdiction of the DC, make us pay the taxes, connect

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01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,359
to the Social Security number, to a trust SESSCA sess

1245
01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,840
to kV trust and that is attached to paying off

1246
01:13:34,039 --> 01:13:37,680
or in turn generating revenue to pay off the debt

1247
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,760
of America. But it's never going to end because it's

1248
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,560
just growing forever. So you know, it's an endless cycle

1249
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:49,479
that will go on until people realize that it's all fake.

1250
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at that section nine three oh seven

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01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:01,319
location of debt, or specifically says the United States is

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01:14:01,399 --> 01:14:03,359
located in the District of Columbia.

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Speaker 1: Imagine that.

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01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,600
Speaker 2: The United States is located in the district of Columbia.

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That's interesting. I'm gonna have to you gave me a

1256
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lot of homework, brother, a lot of stuff to read

1257
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,520
and follow up on, and I've got all your links

1258
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,000
that you recommend. And obviously tell us a little bit

1259
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:27,359
about your YouTube channel and the Armed National. Where you're

1260
01:14:27,399 --> 01:14:30,920
headed and are you thinking about having you know, weekly videos,

1261
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,960
daily videos? What's with the Armed National going forward?

1262
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:39,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've been pretty busy because I just moved

1263
01:14:39,119 --> 01:14:42,319
and stuff, but I've got it pretty much down now,

1264
01:14:42,399 --> 01:14:45,079
the Armed National And basically it started off with a

1265
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:47,880
lot of just guns, so at a lot of guns,

1266
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,840
different gun reviews, how to do you go to toils,

1267
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,479
things like that. But I've kind of shifted a focus

1268
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,159
now where I want to. I'm creating a series on

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01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,479
the state citizenship journey so other people can follow me

1270
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and do exactly what I've done so they can get

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01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:07,319
approved for diplomat US passport and a passport card. I

1272
01:15:07,359 --> 01:15:09,319
got this one as well. I know the viewers can't

1273
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:11,560
see that, but I wanted to show you I got

1274
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:16,079
the card as well. It's it's it's pretty cool because

1275
01:15:16,079 --> 01:15:17,960
when you get that, it starts unlocking a lot of

1276
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,359
doors for you. And then so I think that's important

1277
01:15:21,399 --> 01:15:23,000
to teach people that. So I'm going to try to

1278
01:15:23,079 --> 01:15:26,920
upload about every two weeks or so starting and then

1279
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,279
I'm going to try to do a week after that.

1280
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,000
So the next video will be on how to do

1281
01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:35,920
your US diplomat USA passport, how to get that approved

1282
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,920
at the US Department of State. So I'll have the

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01:15:40,039 --> 01:15:43,600
uploaded within the next week, and then from then on

1284
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,039
I'm going to start doing other things in terms of taxes,

1285
01:15:47,079 --> 01:15:51,000
the United States codes, the laws, you know, court cases,

1286
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,239
a bunch of just information that I think is very

1287
01:15:54,319 --> 01:15:58,239
very valuable for people to understand how to get more

1288
01:15:58,319 --> 01:16:02,439
free as they can be in this entry, and I

1289
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,079
got I got some other stuff on there too. I

1290
01:16:04,119 --> 01:16:06,520
want to I'm going into monetary history with silver, the

1291
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:10,439
importance of silver. I also do videos on prepping and

1292
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,840
edc kits and things like that, so kind of you know,

1293
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:18,039
the all round stuff like that, and I am going

1294
01:16:18,079 --> 01:16:21,479
to start a biblical cosmology series nice future as well.

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01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,199
Speaker 2: So nice well done. One last question. You had showed

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01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:27,960
me your your passport and that ID card. Does that

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01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,600
affect the way you travel specifically when you're flying?

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01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:37,279
Speaker 1: Uh? So, you can use the passport card for all

1299
01:16:39,399 --> 01:16:43,800
of America in land and also air travel within domestic

1300
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,920
and then you can also travel to what does it

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01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,479
say here? It says you can do land and also

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01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:55,840
see travel between US, Canada, Mexico, Caribbean and Bermuda. But

1303
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,279
apart from that, you have to use your passport book

1304
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,720
for international air travel.

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: So, but it's actually really cool because you couldn't do

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01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,840
that before the other original passport card. You have to

1308
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:10,159
do that with this this one. And I think we

1309
01:17:10,199 --> 01:17:17,920
are running out of time, but there's uh what was it? Yeah,

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,479
I'm going to be doing that on my video that

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I'm going to be releasing soon in the next week.

1312
01:17:21,359 --> 01:17:24,640
Where I actually got chat gpt AI to actually admit

1313
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,079
that the passport I was issued was because the US

1314
01:17:27,159 --> 01:17:29,399
Department of State issued me that because they considered me

1315
01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:33,399
a state national as opposed to a US citizenship, so

1316
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,119
they didn't have jo just Dickson, so they granted it

1317
01:17:35,159 --> 01:17:36,880
to me anyway, even though I took note to US

1318
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,800
citizen on the form of the d S eleven. So

1319
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,920
that was kind of cool that Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be validated, right, yeah, yeah.

1321
01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: Because they have to say it, but you have to

1322
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,359
work for it to find it, that's right. Yeah.

1323
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,119
Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of gatekeeping, especially when you do research.

1324
01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:55,880
So don't let the first time you put something into

1325
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,560
you know, your research, and Google's going to throw some gatekeeping.

1326
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,840
I've seen it just in the land ninety minutes we've

1327
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,520
been speaking. Be careful with chat, you know, whether it's chat,

1328
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,560
GPT or whatever the one on Twitter is, because that

1329
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,239
is I believe that's gatekeeping as well. I think that

1330
01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:13,199
those things are probably programmed to lead you in a

1331
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:13,880
certain direction.

1332
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, we have to be careful of that

1333
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,640
stuff for sure.

1334
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,039
Speaker 2: Well, it's been a pleasure to catch up with you again,

1335
01:18:23,079 --> 01:18:25,199
and I want to remind everyone that all the links

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01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:29,239
to your YouTube channel, your email address, the Armed National

1337
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:32,600
at gmail dot com, and then the other information Rumble

1338
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,800
YouTube that you've recommended as well, all that will be

1339
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:37,840
in the show notes. But before we go, as always,

1340
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,239
i'd like to give you the last word.

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01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: Sure, I would just like to quickly read a Bible

1342
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:49,640
versus us. All right, this is Philippians, chapter three, verses

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01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:53,560
seventeen to twenty one. It's our citizenship is in heaven.

1344
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,239
And I think this is important because at the end

1345
01:18:56,239 --> 01:18:57,960
of the day, it doesn't matter how much we try

1346
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,520
to be free on this earth. We're not going to

1347
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,800
be free and we get to heaven and our citizenship

1348
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,079
ultimately is there. So with that focus, that really does

1349
01:19:05,119 --> 01:19:10,319
help navigate you in this what you're doing. So, brethren,

1350
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,399
join in following my example, and note those who so

1351
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,720
walk as you have us for a pattern. For many

1352
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,359
walk of whom I have told you often, and now

1353
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,079
tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of

1354
01:19:22,119 --> 01:19:25,479
the Cross of Christ, whose end is destruction, whose God

1355
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,880
is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame,

1356
01:19:28,319 --> 01:19:31,880
who set their mind on earthly things. For our citizenship

1357
01:19:32,039 --> 01:19:35,159
is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for

1358
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:38,760
the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our

1359
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:42,359
lowly body, that it may be conformed to his glorious body,

1360
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,159
according to the working by which he is able even

1361
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:47,159
to subdue all things to himself.

1362
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Written Paul wrote that I think it was

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01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,279
sixty one sixty two AD, and the interesting thing. When

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01:19:57,319 --> 01:19:59,920
he wrote the letter to the Philippi in flipping In,

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01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,119
that would have been while he was, you know, in

1366
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:07,680
prison in Rome. So think about that. He's writing that

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01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,680
as a prisoner.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think that verse is very important, especially

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01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:14,920
if you want to go on this journey, because you know,

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01:20:15,239 --> 01:20:16,960
I don't know, if it sara enough, one day I'll

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01:20:17,039 --> 01:20:19,520
end up in prison for doing these things and exercising

1372
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,439
my rights and trying to fight the government. But that's

1373
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:23,600
just the risk you have to take.

1374
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,319
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean it's happened over time. At

1375
01:20:28,359 --> 01:20:30,279
some point. You can only be trampled on so much

1376
01:20:30,359 --> 01:20:34,239
and doesn't necessarily, you know, take a call to arms.

1377
01:20:34,359 --> 01:20:37,399
It can start with a simple no right, do not consent,

1378
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,119
do not give your consent, do not comply. As we

1379
01:20:40,159 --> 01:20:42,520
said back in twenty twenty, just don't comply.

1380
01:20:42,399 --> 01:20:46,159
Speaker 1: Right exactly exactly. So the more people that learn this

1381
01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:48,000
and don't comply, I think the better off our country

1382
01:20:48,039 --> 01:20:48,720
will be as a whole.

1383
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: So good stuff. Well, this was a great conversation. I

1384
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,399
know it's going to be very I should be getting

1385
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:59,279
some interesting emails, and if you have any questions at all,

1386
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:03,039
reach out to math. I'm sure he's very knowledgeable and

1387
01:21:03,399 --> 01:21:05,960
very easy to communicate with and all his information and

1388
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,680
be in the show notes. Again, Matthew, thanks so much

1389
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,279
for your time this afternoon. I really appreciate it. Brother.

1390
01:21:11,119 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for having me. It's been great.

1391
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Again, to our listeners, thank you so

1392
01:21:15,359 --> 01:21:19,199
much for your continued support. Special sub stack announcement this

1393
01:21:19,279 --> 01:21:22,319
coming Thursday, which is I believe April the ninth. Check

1394
01:21:22,399 --> 01:21:26,520
that out. Otherwise, thanks again for listening, Thanks for supporting

1395
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:30,119
the podcast. For Matthew, I'm George. God bless you. Keep

1396
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:32,439
your head on a swivel and Christ in your heart.

1397
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:35,279
And until we meet again, my friends, we will see you.

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Speaker 3: I was lost in the shadows, chas an empty dreams,

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01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:49,359
broken by the world. Soon after the save for that

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01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:50,640
broke through.

1401
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 4: Calling out my nay love so true, washed away last shame.

1402
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,359
Speaker 2: It's the bud say. You're leading me.

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01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:15,560
Speaker 3: On a road to Grays where my soul is free.

1404
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,079
Speaker 2: On Salvation Street.

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01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:25,039
Speaker 3: Where your learn means everyone drained, park finds the place

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01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:26,159
to breathe.

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01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,119
Speaker 2: Your cross lights the.

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01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 5: Way through the dark and paint.

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01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 6: I'm running to your arms on Salvation Street, Gash whoa

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01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:47,399
sins like change, holding me down, but your voice was

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01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,000
louder than the battle sound.

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01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 7: You lifted me up from the ashes our eyes. Now

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01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:02,039
I see your truth shining in your eyes. Every step

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01:23:02,159 --> 01:23:02,880
find sake.

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Speaker 3: You lead in me on a road two gregs where

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01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,680
my soul is free.

1417
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 5: On Salvation Street, where your mergency meets everyone drained hard.

1418
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,199
Speaker 7: Finds a place to breath your cross.

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01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 3: That's the way through the dark and paint.

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01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 6: I'm running to your arms on Salvation Street.

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01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 5: Normal fen normal lives, You loves the fire lights, the sky.

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01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:48,520
Speaker 7: I'm a lie.

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01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 5: I'm Rentine, walking with my savior Salvation Street, on Salve

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01:24:00,079 --> 01:24:06,560
ancient street, where your mercy meets everyone drained part finds

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01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:07,479
of face.

1426
01:24:07,399 --> 01:24:11,359
Speaker 3: To breathe your cross, like the way through.

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01:24:11,319 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: The dark and pain.

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01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:20,079
Speaker 4: I'm running to your arms on Salvation Street, on Salvation Street,

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01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:24,920
where your grace is sweep out forever walk.

1430
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:36,199
Speaker 8: If you mocking minies, you're listening to the Fact Hunter

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01:24:36,359 --> 01:24:37,119
Radio Network.

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Speaker 6: Just the facts, ma'am.