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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty big article, pretty long article, And we're going

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to begin our exploration of the Maxwell family today and

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we're going to start, obviously with the patriarch. We're going

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to start with Robert Maxwell today and we're going to

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be hearing from the author John Preston, And the article

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we're going to be sharing is an excerpt from his

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book from Fall, The Mysterious Life and Death of Robert Maxwell.

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So obviously, mister Preston has done the legwork, done the

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deep dive, and has explored the history and past of

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Robert Maxwell. So that's going to be our starting point

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for our conversation about the Manson family. I mean, the

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Maxwell family, Maxwell, Manson get it pretty much the same thing,

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right with these crazy sons of bitches. So we're going

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to begin our exploration of the Maxwell family and the

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deep dive that is going to follow it right here

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with this article from Town and Country Magazine courtesy of

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John Preston. So we've talked about Robert Maxwell at length,

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and we've discussed his various dealings, and I have definitely

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come to the point where I believe he was big

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time involved in getting Elaine and Jeffrey Epstein together. Now

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you all know how I feel about that relationship. I

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don't believe there was any love there. I don't believe

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there was ever any love there, and I think, certainly

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from Bob Maxwell's perspective, it was always a business deal.

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And you know, like in the old days, when rich

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and powerful families would have children and their daughters, they

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would be used to cement alliances with other noble houses

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or other houses that they might be at war with.

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And it's no different for these kind of people these days, right,

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Robert Maxwell and the Maxwell clan looked at themselves as

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some sort of you know, royal family, And if he

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could pawn Gilain off to Jeffrey Epstein and increase his

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wealth or his reach or anything like that, then he

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wouldn't hesitate to do it. Gilaine Maxwell, to Robert Maxwell

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was just another piece on the chessboard. Oh sure, he

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liked that piece a little bit more than the others.

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But at the end of the day, he certainly would

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have no problem sacrificing the queen to save the king.

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The mist curious life and death of Robert Maxwell. Today,

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Gilain Maxwell's father, Robert is remembered mostly for his death,

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but in his prime he represented power, money and shocking deceit,

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and British society ate it all up. So again, when

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I talk about the United States, that's the face for

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the whole entire Western world because this is happening everywhere England,

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the United States, France, Italy. It doesn't matter. These people

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run a rough shot over All of the elected officials

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used backroom chambers, backroom dealings, and they live their lives

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like they're above the law, and Robert Maxwell certainly was

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no different. Can scandal be hereditary? Gilaine Maxwell's involvement with

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Jeffrey Epstein made her a household name, but her ongoing

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legal woes didn't art the first time her family had

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endured the glare of the spotlight. And yeah, I think

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it can be hereditary. Right if you were raised at

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good old daddy's knee and you were taught all of

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the tricks of the trade and the family business and

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how to operate in the shadows, and you learned from

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your pops, well, yeah, it could definitely be hereditary and

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passed down. How many times have you seen it? In

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organized crime, you have a mafioso who has a son

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who ends up getting into the life and all of

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that was because he spent so much time at the

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social club with dad or at the bar with dad,

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and this becomes his life. It's the only life they've

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ever known. So this is the life they choose, and

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it's no different for Maxwell. In my opinion, she knew

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that she wanted to be amongst the highest levers of power,

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and she knew how to get there. All she needed

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was the proper tools. And my friends, there is a

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tool for every job, and a job for every tool,

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and the Maxwell's optimized that at every turn. When when

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Gaillan's father, Robert Maxwell, died in nineteen ninety one, the

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official cause of death was a heart attack, but not

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everyone was convinced. Rumors swirled that the larger than life

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newspaper baron, whose body had been found near the Canary

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Islands he was presumed to have fallen off his yacht,

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had committed suicide in the face of financial ruin, or

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had been assassinated by some shadowy intelligence agency. And was

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it really any wonder? And you know what makes me

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think about things is this guy's with his body was

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found floating around near the Canary Islands. You mean to

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tell me that the sharks didn't get them. I know

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that there's a ton of sharks around the Canary Islands,

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and maybe Robert Maxwell was so and so disgusting that

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the sharks didn't even want to eat them. They were like,

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you know what, this is obviously gonna give us adjita.

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We can't eat this shit. Let this dude float away

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and that'll be the end of that, And the sharks

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moved on to better tasting prey. How the hell does

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this guy float around near his boat and not get

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eaten by a shark or some other some sort of

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aquatic animal. Throughout his life, Maxwell worked tirelessly to obscure

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the truth about himself. Sound familiar, folks, sound familiar. This

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is exactly what Gailan Maxwell has done. She has worked

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tirelessly to obscure the truth, tirelessly to make it seem

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like she is just another so called member of polite

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society getting on to get on. And that is a

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tactic that these people love to use. They will high

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in plain sight while being brazen about their activities, rubbing

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everybody's face in it. And for the most part, they

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don't have to worry because all of their buddies and

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all of their friends that are running around at the

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highest levels of politics and power are there to smooth

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things out for them the second it gets wrinkled up.

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He changed his name, denied his religion, and played shell

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games with vast fortunes, all in effort to storm first

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the British aristocracy and later the international cabal of billionaires,

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businessmen and power brokers. The plan worked, and there's no

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doubt Robert Maxwell, Bob Maxwell, had his fingers on the

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levers of power in many different places. There's a lot

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of talk about his contacts in Russia. There's obviously his

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contacts in Israel, America, the United Kingdom, France. You know,

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this was a very powerful man with a lot of reach.

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This is a guy who had it all, had all

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the power in the world, had all the money in

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the world, and it was never enough. His greed is

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what drove him.

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Speaker 2: His greed.

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Speaker 1: Is what continued to make him go and in the

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end I suspect it was his greed that ended up

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killing him. In his lifetime, Maxwell became a global publishing tycoon,

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running such newspapers as London's Daily Mirror and the New

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York's Daily News, a member of Parliament and a Bete

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Noir for the likes of Rupert Murdoch and Margaret Thatcher. Again,

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the levels of power that these people have infiltrated at

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folks is the highest levels there is. And that's not

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hyperbole either, that's not trying to make the statement more impactful.

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Look at the names of the people that guys like

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Bob Maxwell was covorting with, Margaret Thatcher, Rupert Murdoch, the

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list goes on. That's just a little taste. A guy

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like Robert Maxwell was wielding so much unchecked power for

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so long, and to think or to act like the

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English authorities had no idea what was going on is

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naive at best. How many of them English politicians were

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being enriched by Robert Maxwell running their campaigns on his dime,

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I'm sure a lot of them. There were also rumors

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that he was a spy for Israel or Britain or both,

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and I don't even know if like we can call

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it rumor at this point. And again I don't know

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about spy either, though I think that's a stretch. I

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believe he definitely was an asset, but a traditional spy

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in this sense of you know, somebody marking some chalk

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on a park bench and leaving a message for their handler.

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believe he was an asset of the Israeli intelligence apparatus,

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the English Intelligence apparatus, certainly the CIA, and maybe was

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even being run by the KGB, or was dogwalking the

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KGB for, you know, to to gain more money and

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try and gain a little bit more access to more

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powerful levers of power. Because we know that's what these

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people did. Look, they collected powerful friends like you or

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I collected trading cards when we were growing up. In

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the new biography Fall, the Mysterious Life and Death of

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Robert Maxwell, Britain's most notorious media baron, author John Preston

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follows the story of Maxwell's life from a destitute childhood

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in Czechoslovakia to the heights of fame and fortune. And now,

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remember this is going to be our intro into Robert

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Maxwell and then obviously to the rest of the clan,

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but we're going to go into his the beginning of

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his life and all of that as well. I have

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an episode that I'm working on, probably going to come

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out next Monday, where it's going to start at the

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beginning of Robert Maxwell's life and work through from there

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to try and build even more of an idea of

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who he was and what his involvement was with people

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like Jeffrey Epstein. Preston definitely depicts how the trappings of

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money and power can be used to obscure a lifetime

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of secrets and lies. In this excerpt, Maxwell's uncanny ability

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to deflect attention with abundance is on full display and

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serves as a chilling reminder that the apple never falls

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far from the tree. And again, I've said it from

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the very beginning that I think that Maxwell Gylaane spent

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plenty of time at Robert Maxwell's knee, and of all

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of the Maxwell children, was the most like dear old Dad.

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She had the same chemical build up, she had the

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same exact ideas, and she also had the same outlook

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on life after spending so much time with her dad

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and being so heavily influenced by her dad and the

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way Robert Maxwell conducted himself on a day to day basis.

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The Dinner Dad Is hosted by Robert and Betty Maxwell

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at Headington Hill Hall were considered even by hardened partygoers

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to be in a class of their own. The house

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itself was an ideal venue for a party. It had

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been built in the early nineteenth century by a culture

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loving family of brewers, the Morrels. They too had been

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keen party givers. In eighteen seventy eight, Oscar Wilde was

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among the three hundred guests at one of their fancy

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dress balls. For reasons that are not entirely clear, he

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chose to come dressed as Prince Rupert of the Rhine.

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where the so called elite of England come for parties.

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these people gathering and having whatever kind of weirdo billionaire

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howl at the moon covered in blood type of parties

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at these six Pe people have. And it shows you

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the kind of power that Robert Maxwell had. He had

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to have this kind of house, right, a house that

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had some history, a house where you know there was

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people before him who were established in society. You know,

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it's a good dinner piece conversation. Yeah, you know, Oscar A.

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how rich people have to floss about everything. Ever since

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the Maxwell's moved into Headington Hill Hall. They continued the

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tradition of throwing grand parties. I love it Headington Hill Hall.

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All of these names are you know, like a name

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from Game of Thrones, right, Summer Hill Hall. And it

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cracks me up when I read about these different locations

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and you reflect back on different fantasy books that have

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come out, and the influence that England and London has

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had on the whole fantasy genre is just incomparable. All right, well,

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I digress. But as guests soon discovered, Maxwell had his

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own way of doing things. The writer and future Conservative

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parties in the nineteen seventies. At first, nothing struck him

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as out of the ordinary. It was only when I

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went up to Maxwell that I realized he had this

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apparatus on There was an old fashioned microphone attached to

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the lapel of his jacket with a windshield on it.

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of all hardback book with a dial in the middle.

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This was somehow connected to the speakers in each of

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the rooms, all right, so that explanation. For some reason,

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in my mind I had the visions of data from

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Goonies and all of his little contraptions that he wore, right,

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you know, the little belt contraption he had a contraption

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for this for that, Who does Robert Maxwell think he

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is data from Goonies, A broken down wannabe Bruce Wayne.

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I mean, really, with the apparatuses all over the belt

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a windshield, I mean, what are you even wearing? You jackwagon?

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Maxwell Brandreth realized was wearing his own personal PA system,

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enabling him to address people no matter how far away

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they were. Talk about being an arrogant tool. You're walking

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around with a PA system on you, looking like Billy

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Blanks teaching a tybo class. Get a grip, Daddy serpent.

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then as soon as he saw someone he wanted to

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talk to on the other side of the room, he

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turned it up again, and this disembodied voice would be

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booming out of the speakers. I can only imagine this

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idiot trying to get your attention from across the room

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with this stupid contraption he's wearing, looking like the world's

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biggest moron. For all the splendor of his parties, Maxwell

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himself remained an oddly elusive figure. It was as if

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there was kind of invisible mode around him. Brandreth recalls

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he was definitely a presence, but whenever he came into

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a room, instead of the room being more crowded, it

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always seems slightly emptier than before. Well, that's what happens

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when a bipedal serpent walks in and sucks the air

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out of a room, Right, Daddy's serpent comes strolling in

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on National Serpent's Day, by the way, that is what

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today is, and sucks all of the air out of

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the room. I'm sure that Robert Maxwell was an absolute dickhead. Okay,

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let's just be let's just be honest, all right. I'm

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sure he's one of those rich dickheads that makes you

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want to vomit in your own mouth. It is disgusting

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the narcissism that we see on display with these people.

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As Maxwell's fortune grew, the larger and grander the parties became.

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Cabinet ministers would rub shoulders with captains of industry, leading

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scientists with newspaper editors. Boy does that sound familiar, Almost

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like the blueprint was taken directly from Robert Maxwell, hand

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it off to dear old little daughter Mini Serpent, and

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then put into action with the help of Jeffrey Epstein.

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It is the same exact playbook that was used. Get

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close to all of these people of industry, scientists, newspaper editors,

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and then go to work shape the narrative. Build yourself

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a shield that encompass is all of these dumb idiots

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in so called polite society, in the so called realm

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of the elite, that gives you the cover to continue

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your disgusting human trafficking. And that is exactly the blueprint

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used by Jeffrey Epstein and Guilaine Maxwell, just like it

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was used by dear old Dad. But the joint party

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to celebrate Maxwell's sixty fifth birthday and the fortieth anniversary

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of this company Pergamon Press in June nineteen eighty eight,

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was confidently predicted to outdo them all in terms of

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both opulence and pomp. Now we know that these mfors

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like to spend a couple of bucks on their parties, right,

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and it all makes sense right when you start looking

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at it. Of course, they were willing to spend all

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these moneys on parties and on opulence and on all

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other sorts of nonsense. Because it wasn't their money. They

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were laundering it, they were stealing it. It was a

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Ponzi scheme. But meanwhile, even after Maxwell's fall, even after

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Maxwell was caught in the act, basically somehow, his children,

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his ex wife, all of the Maxwell clan still have

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a ton of money. Now, when normal people get caught

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up doing something like this, all of your money is

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seized by the government. But when you're rich, well, you

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find a way around that. Unfortunately, the crack dealer in

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south central LA isn't afforded the same luxuries under our

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two tiered system. No one, not even as many critics,

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could deny that Maxwell was on a roll from Oxford

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to Osaka. His empire was booming, as he had boasted

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just a few weeks earlier. The banks of US money,

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we have so much on deposit?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Is that so so much money on deposit? You mean

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money that you were laundering, money that you were stealing,

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money that you were taking from other people. And how

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much of that money and how much of that scam

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was helped along the way by somebody like Jeffrey Epstein.

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We know that Epstein was involved in this sort of thing,

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moving money around, hiding money, making money untaxable and untraceable.

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At the same time, academic institutions were queuing up to

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bestow honors upon him. Maxwell had just been given a

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Doctorate of Law by Aberdeen University, as well as an

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honorary life membership in the University of London's Institute of Philosophy.

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Now you see how academia is always involved with the

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scummiest amongst us, it would seem. And yet these are

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the people who think that it's a good idea for

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us to send our children to them, to safeguard them,

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to teach them, to show them the right way in life.

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Academia should be ashamed of themselves and there should be

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a much more forceful voice coming from every corner of academia. Unfortunately,

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there's only a handful of strong, courageous people in that

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world that have stood up, and doctor Stephen Delay most

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certainly is one of them. But we need more people

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in that world to stand up, and they need to

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understand and admit how deep the problems run on their end.

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So many guests had been invited, around three thousand that

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had been decided to hold the party over three consecutive nights.

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Friday night would be white tie and decorations and Saturday

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night black tie, while the Sunday night party would be

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a more informal affair for members of staff. In between,

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there was a lunch party on Saturday. Oh if your staff,

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you can't come to Friday or Saturday. No, no, no,

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you know, that's for our real guests. That's like in

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the Italian household, if you try and go and get

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yourself a little bit of the entemens, your mom will

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slap you in the hand with a wooden spoon and

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tell you that's for company. So basically, he would have

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a little function on Sunday at the tail end of

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it for his staff and for people that weren't worthy

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of running the halls with the rest of the serpents.

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Bob Maxwell and the rest of these people are some

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of the most disgusting human beings. And I use that

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word loosely that I have ever had the I don't

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even know what to say about it. Honestly, I've never

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really researched people like this. The whole entire family is scummy,

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one scummier than the next. In the days leading up

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to the first party, vast marquees were erected around the house.

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Two Florida ceiling windows were removed to improve access to

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the main marquee. Legions of Floras came down from London

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to create elaborate displays in the house, the marquees, and

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even the swimming pool. This involved them transporting the flowers

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out to the middle of the pool and little dinghies.

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Imagine having a pool so damn big you needed a

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dinghy to get out to the middle of it. I mean,

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my parents have a junior Olympic sized swimming pool in

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their backyard and that's the pool I grew up swimming in,

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and it's big as hell. I can't even imagine needing

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a dinghy to get out to the middle of my pool.

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A stage had been built at one end of the

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main marquee and a dance floor laid so the guests

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could dance on the sound of the Joe Loss Orchestra.

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Later on it would be disco. At the end of

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the meal, the cast of the West End musical Me

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and My Girl would perform highlights from the show. So

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they had the whole thing going on here, right. They

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had the orchestra, they had a dance floor, they had

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it turned into a disco They had people that were

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involved in plays doing little skits from those plays. So,

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as you can see, it was your typical debased, Romanesque,

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deboucherous evening. To ensure that everyone enjoyed unimpeded views of

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the entertainment, the dining area had been constructed on two levels.

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A mobile dark room had also been set up on

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the grounds. Guests who had their pictures taken during the

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evening by a team of six photographers would be able

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to collect them as they left Wooie. I would love

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to find out who those photographers were and what sort

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of pictures they still have up the Cuff'd to you

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that there are a ton of pictures from this event

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that are floating around and these six photographers, those would

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be some interesting ass conversations. To mark the fortieth anniversary

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of Pergamon, a special book of tributes had been compiled.

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Pergamon had grown into the world's largest scientific publisher, and

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the editors of Maxwell's scientific journals, more than three hundred

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in all, along with various Nobel laureates, extalled his virtues

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in extravagant terms. Again, you see the hooks that Bob

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Maxwell had into the world of science and academia, and

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that was passed down to Gilane the blueprint and to

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Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously I don't have direct evidence of that,

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but folks, I am convinced that that is how all

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of this came to be. If we just take a

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look at Bob Maxwell and his blueprint, and we bring

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that blue print over and put it on Jeffrey Epstein

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and Gilan Maxwell's blueprint, it matches up almost to a

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tea today.

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Speaker 1: Gie the editor of the international journal Journal of Hydrogen Energy,

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noted everything Bob Maxwell touches turns to gold. You mean

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fools gold, right, while the director of one of his

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Japanese companies wrote, each time I have the pleasure of

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meeting him, I am reminded of f Scott Fitzgerald's words

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that a millionaire is no ordinary man. Yes he is,

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and f Scott Fitzgerald was completely wrong. They bleed the same,

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They put their pants on the same as us and

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guess what, They're no better than you because they have

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a couple of bucks. Of most of them had, you know,

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the fortunate luck of being born into it, and those

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that made their own millions, well, hey, good for you.

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Right again. I don't have any problem with people being wealthy.

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I think it's a great thing. I think that we

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should all want to have a good amount of wealth

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because if we all had wealth, then we could do

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good things with it, help other people. You know, when

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you see something that's wrong, you could jump in and

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fix it. But it seems like everybody who has this

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kind of wealth is nothing but a scumbag. Last night

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during the live stream, I had a listener ask me

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if I can name one billionaire that I thought was

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a good person, and folks, I honestly cannot. Now. I

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know that I'm probably the wrong person to ask, considering

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how cynical I am when it comes to these people,

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but I really truly believe that there's not one of

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one person that comes to mind that I can think of. Now.

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I'm sure I'm missing somebody. I'm sure there's probably a

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billionaire or two out there that have done good things.

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But when you start breaking it down and you look

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at all of these hedge funge managers and all of

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these people who are in the financial sector. It seems

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like all of them have been fined or slapped with

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some sort of penalty for stealing and cheating, all of them.

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So how can I think and sit here and even

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begin to try and lie to you folks or gaslights

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you by saying, oh, yeah, well, this millionaire is a

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good guy, because honestly, I truly don't think that there

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are any at this point. Arthur Barrett, editor of Vacuum,

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recalled how his initial doubts about Maxwell had soon disappeared.

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I have to confess that quickly realizing his predatory and

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entrepreneurial ambitions, I nonetheless took a great liking to him.

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And there's no doubt he was a human predator, right,

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definitely a predator, the kind of person that preyed on

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the less fortunate the week companies that were in peril.

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You know, basically the same guy that's taking it in

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the shorts right now on Wall Street with the short

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of Game Stop, the same kind of scumbag. Among the

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congratulatory telegrams was one from the US President Ronald Reagan

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as the Happy birthdays ring out Nancy. Nancy and I

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are delighted to join in the course of appreciation. Isn't

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that nice? Ronnie Reagan? Send your buddy there, Bobby Maxwell,

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a nice happy birthday card. The leader of the free

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world sending a nice happy birthday card to a scumbag

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like Bob Maxwell. You see, folks, Donald Trump wasn't the

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cause of the problems. Donald Trump is a symptom of

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the problems. And I know it feels good and visceral

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to last and blame him, but we have to dig deeper.

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We can't just dig under the little bit under the

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surface and be like, all right, that's it. Where where

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we need to be? This goes back a very long time, folks,

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and the politicians that we elect and the people that

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have ruled over us for a very long time have

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straight up been evil. I'm sorry to say. The Prime

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Minister Margaret Thatcher offered a somewhat sulipistic contribution of her own.

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Robert Maxwell has never made any secret of the fact

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that officially he is politically opposed to me. But to

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tell the truth, I think he rather liked my approach

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to politics and government, a sense of direction and decision.

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These are the very qualities that have taken him far.

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Oh well, that's nice by the Iron Lady. Huh. You know,

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Robert Maxwell, he doesn't like me very much, but I

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think that he likes my approach to politics and government.

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Probably not the stamp of approval that you're looking for there,

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Iron Lady. These are the very qualities that have taken

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him far. As far as the Labor leader, Neil Kinnick

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was concerned if Bob Maxwell didn't exist, no one could

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invent him. Yeah. He is one of those characters, right,

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one of those characters that you think you'd only see

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in a book. But he was a real life archvillain, folks.

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That's what Bob Maxwell was, a real life bad guy.

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On the night of the first party, guests passed down

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a receiving line where they were greeted by Maxwell, Betty

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and all seven of their children. Oh kind of like

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when Robert Barrathian comes to Winterfel huh, and the Starks

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are all lined up to meet him and greet them.

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These people truly thought that that's who they were. They

478
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thought that they were the modern day nobles. They were

479
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royal houses. We were living in a feudal world, and

480
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we were still their serfs, and when they raise the banners,

481
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we have to come running. That's how these people truly lived.

482
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,759
Some of the guests arrived bearing birthday presents. The broadcaster

483
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,000
David Frost turned up with a five hundred pound bottle

484
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of wine, unaware of how much it had cost. Maxwell's

485
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,680
chef later tipped it into a beef stew. Imagine that

486
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:26,000
five hundred dollars pound I mean five hundred pound dollar

487
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:32,079
bottle of wine used in this stew. That's the sort

488
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,599
of money we're dealing with. That's the kind of people

489
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,640
we're dealing with. A five hundred dollars pound bottle of

490
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,680
wine pays a lot of people's car payment and insurance,

491
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,920
half of their rent, food for a month. But these

492
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
people are like, oh, we'll just pour this in the wine.

493
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I mean pour this in the beef stew. Here they

494
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:58,599
are so disconnected from reality, folks that when their crash

495
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:06,200
inevitably come forget Humpty Dumpty, because these pieces can never

496
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:10,599
be put back together again. For the so called elite.

497
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,000
The toothpaste is out of the tube. As guests sip

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00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,960
their drinks, the band of the Coldstream guards march back

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and forth across the lawn before dinner started. Robert and

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Betty made their formal entrance into the marquee to an

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announcement from the Master of Ceremonies, Ladies and gentlemen, would

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you please welcome your host and hostess Robert and Elizabeth Maxwell,

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and a fanfare of Harold Trumpeters. Like I said, they

504
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truly believe that they're the modern day aristocracy, the ruling houses,

505
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and that we should all be out working their farms

506
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as their serfs. And when it's time to go fight

507
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in one of their endless, unneeded wars, well make sure

508
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you grab your hoe, make sure you grab your pickaxe,

509
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,360
because you're gonna be on the front line and you're

510
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gonna be cannon fodder while the rest of us eat

511
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:10,360
our caviat and sip our bubbly Like bad religion says,

512
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We'll just let them meat war. Everyone stood to aplaud

513
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,880
along with a row of metals pinned to his black tailcoat.

514
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:23,280
Maxwell was wearing a large white enamel cross on a

515
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,920
chain around his neck. Oh yeah, because yeah, I'm sure

516
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,239
Robert Maxwell was captain religious pants. What they do is

517
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:39,199
they wear these religious symbols from Christian religions or otherwise,

518
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,599
and they do it as mockery. These people aren't religious.

519
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,159
These people are out, you know, howling at the moon

520
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,199
to Moloch and shit, that's what it certainly seems like.

521
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,119
So whenever you see them wearing some sort of religious apparel,

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like a cross or anything like that, it's in mockery

523
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:05,239
in my opinion. This was the Order of the White

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Rose of Finland, a decoration normally given to foreign heads

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00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:13,119
of state and recognition of outstanding civilian or military conduct.

526
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,119
Betty Maxwell wore a dress made of gold embroidered tull

527
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over yellow ti fought Us silk. Boy, must be nice,

528
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:26,119
Must be nice, huh? A gold embroider and yellow Tafeta silk.

529
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These people are living in a completely different world than

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00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:35,719
the rest of us folks, and for a long time

531
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,119
they were allowed to exist there up in their so

532
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,960
called rarefied air, without none of us really paying attention.

533
00:36:43,519 --> 00:36:48,599
That shit is over. We are fully engaged now and

534
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:53,960
you so called elites, you have our full, unadulterated attention.

535
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,719
At one of their earlier parties in nineteen eighty eighty six,

536
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:02,440
the speech had been given by a former Prime Minister,

537
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,400
Harold Wilson suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer's. Wilson

538
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,760
had begun this speech brightly enough, but then clearly forgot

539
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,840
who he was supposed to be talking about. This time,

540
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,159
nothing had been left to chance. The main speech was

541
00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:22,039
given by Maxwell's banker, Sir Michael Richardson, managing director of

542
00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:26,800
Rothchild's Bank and an economic advisor to miss thatcher boy,

543
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,639
those Rothchilds are just quality people as well. Huh. I

544
00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:32,559
mean they don't have their hands and all kinds of scumbaggery.

545
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,639
They haven't had their hands in all kinds of scumbaggeries

546
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:40,880
since oh, I don't know, Waterloo. Do you think it's

547
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,960
just a coincidence, folks, that the same names happen to

548
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,920
pop up in these articles as we go through this.

549
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,519
Do you really think that's just a coincidence? Betty and Bob,

550
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,679
this must be the party of the decade. Richardson declared,

551
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,199
the shouts of here or here and another around of applause.

552
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All of us are delighted to be here because we

553
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,760
believe you have made a major contribution to all of

554
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,840
our lives. But if she sat beaming away by Maxwell's side,

555
00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:16,079
Betty found herself wondering if the party might not be

556
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,960
too puffed up with self importance, if something vital might

557
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,159
not have been lost along the way. Oh, it's all

558
00:38:23,159 --> 00:38:25,719
about the face, right. We got to have the best party.

559
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,159
Everything is about consolidation of power. It comes back to

560
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,199
that no matter what. And you see it in real

561
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,559
time with these articles as we read them, it is

562
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:46,679
so apparent that these people are operating in a forget

563
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,519
a different world, a whole different universe than the rest

564
00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:55,679
of us. In particular, she had major doubts about the

565
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:58,880
Harold Trumpeters. I thought it was really over the top,

566
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,360
but I managed to play my part for all its success.

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00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,719
For me, it had lost the intimate quality that our

568
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,559
previous parties had had. It was just too vast. Oh please,

569
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,960
I'm sure that you know your husband felt the same.

570
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,519
The party had to be vast. The more vast it was,

571
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,760
the more glitzy, the more glamorous, the easier it was

572
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,800
for Maxwell to sink his hooks into people. The easier

573
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,280
it was for Maxwell to use the so called rich

574
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:36,039
and elite to make his own reputation stellar and to

575
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,480
give him access to these higher levels of power, the

576
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:44,519
same way his daughter used the same blueprint to ape

577
00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:49,679
his behavior all of these years Later. That evening, the

578
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,480
economist Peter j found himself sharing Betty Maxwell's misgivings. It

579
00:39:54,559 --> 00:39:57,480
was as if people came because they wanted to see Maxwell.

580
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,599
It was a spectacle. And although they sucked up to

581
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:04,079
him and enjoys this hospitality, you could see them raising

582
00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:07,679
their eyebrows at the same time. Oh yeah, I'm sure

583
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:10,239
that they had such a big problem with it that

584
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,159
they ate all of his food and enjoyed all of

585
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:16,079
his music and hung out with all of the other scuzzbags.

586
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,199
I love these people who are like, oh, our eyebrows

587
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,800
were raised as you stayed and continue to party and

588
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,920
suck down champagne on his dime, like that makes you

589
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,519
a better person, Just like the jackasses at the Reddit.

590
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:36,199
Well with the Reddit CEO when Maxwell was at the

591
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,599
party with all of them, and she comes out and says, oh,

592
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:41,000
we all knew what Maxwell was. Then why are you

593
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,199
still at the party with her? Why didn't you leave

594
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,440
right away? And it comes down to at the end

595
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,360
of the day, these people don't give a damn. After

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00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,199
dinner was over and the cast of Me and My

597
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,079
Girl had finished performing, guests were asked to go back outside.

598
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,159
There they were treated to a fireworks display, the culmination

599
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,639
of which was a huge flaming sign spelling out the

600
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:10,440
words Happy Birthday, Bob across the Oxford skyline. Must be nice,

601
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:15,199
big fireworks display, forcing everyone to come out and watch

602
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,639
it in your honor. Nah, no narcissism here, folks. But

603
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,039
not all of the guests stayed to watch. Some of

604
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,840
them them succumb to curiosity and went snooping. Mike molloy by,

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00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,960
now the editor in chief of The Mirror, was particularly

606
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,280
struck by the decor of Headington Hill Hall. All the

607
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,480
furniture looked as if it had been bought from the

608
00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:39,679
sale of a second rate country house in the nineteen twenties,

609
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:45,079
and the paintings were absolutely terrible. I've never seen a

610
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,320
worse collection. I bet you those paintings were all fake.

611
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,800
He probably had his art collection stashed somewhere to hide it,

612
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:54,960
make sure that he wasn't getting taxed on it. And

613
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,159
shit and the furniture, well, that doesn't shock me. It

614
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,119
seems to me that a lot of these people have

615
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,840
terrible taste when it comes to the interior decorations of

616
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,599
their houses. I mean, look at how bad Jeffrey Epstein's

617
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:14,760
houses were decorated. Having inspected the art, Molloy peered into

618
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,079
Maxwell's drawing room. There were all these bookshelves with books

619
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,719
on them, except when I looked more closely, I saw

620
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,800
they weren't real books. They were made out of cardboard.

621
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I couldn't get over it. Here was this man who

622
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,519
had this fortune out of publishing, and yet there weren't

623
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,960
even real books on his shelves. In fact, not all

624
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,159
the books were false, only those concealing Maxwell's stereo system.

625
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:43,920
And it's just an overall look at Maxwell in general.

626
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,159
His whole life was false. Everything about him was false.

627
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,320
The way he presented himself was false, and even the

628
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,440
books that he had on display were fake. While the

629
00:42:58,519 --> 00:43:01,639
dancing was going on, Maxwell asked another of the guests,

630
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:06,400
Gerald Ronson, CEO of the property developers Heraan International, if

631
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,039
he would like to come into the house for a

632
00:43:08,119 --> 00:43:11,360
quiet drink. He waved his fat finger at me and said,

633
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,719
let's go into the library because I don't want to

634
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,440
talk to these people. They were Maxwell told him a

635
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,000
bunch of arseholes who would go anywhere if they were

636
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:23,599
invited by someone important. Well, I can't disagree with Maxwell. There.

637
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,360
He's right about that. These people are a bunch of arseholes,

638
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,559
and they would go anywhere if they were invited by

639
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,639
somebody with power and money, and it doesn't matter how

640
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,519
scummy that person might be. Maxwell had something he wanted

641
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:42,239
to show him. Bob said, you always thought I was

642
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,000
joking when I told you I had won the Military Cross.

643
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,559
He then opened up a large photo album and proudly

644
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:52,239
pointed to one of the photographs, taken more than forty

645
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,199
years earlier. It showed Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery pinning the

646
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,679
metal onto the uniform of a much younger, slimmer Maxwell.

647
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,039
Ronson laughed and held up his hands. I said, I

648
00:44:03,119 --> 00:44:05,360
take it all back, Bob. I'm sorry if I didn't

649
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,400
believe you, but you do tell so many stories. Well, folks.

650
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,960
That is the opening salvo into our exploration of the

651
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Maxwell family, starting with Robert Maxwell. Now, this is just

652
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:25,599
one instance, a bit of an overview, and it gives

653
00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:27,639
to show you a little bit of the opulence and

654
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,280
the way that he lived his life. But as we

655
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,960
begin to dig deeper and go further down this rabbit hole,

656
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,239
you will see that his life was mainly based on stealing,

657
00:44:39,679 --> 00:44:45,880
consolidating power, and being a general all around scuzbag, just

658
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:50,320
like Daddy's little girl. If you'd like to contact me,

659
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,639
you can do that at Bobby Capucci at protonmeil dot com.

660
00:44:54,679 --> 00:45:00,960
That's Bobby cap you Cci at proton meil dot com.

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You can also find me on Twitter at b O

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B b Y, Underscore c A p U C c I.

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All of the links that go with this episode can

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be found in the description box. All Right,

