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<v Speaker 1>It's night time with Dan Ray. I'm Deezy Boston News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot going on in Washington. Later on

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<v Speaker 2>this week, we certainly will continue to talk about all

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<v Speaker 2>that's going on. The hearing today in front of the

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<v Speaker 2>three judge federal panel dealing with the deportation of the

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigrants. I know that a lot of times it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like we're just deporting immigrants. No, we're deporting illegal immigrants.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two types of immigrants, legal immigrants and illegal immigrants,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's and also amongst the illegal immigrants, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>subset who are people who are either members of organized

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<v Speaker 2>crime organizations, be it MS thirteen or trend ago. But

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<v Speaker 2>those distinctions are not often made effectively in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I'm concerned, Well, that's really not what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm focusing on here. I'm focusing on the future of

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party. I'm talking about the national Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>The Democratic Party in Massachusetts is as strong as ever,

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<v Speaker 2>holds all of the statewide offices as you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>holds an iron grip on the state legislature, both the

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<v Speaker 2>House and Senate. So the Democratic Party in Massachusetts is

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<v Speaker 2>in great shape. Not quite so nationally, because right now

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<v Speaker 2>the Democratic Party nationally has no idea who its leader

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be. Joe Biden, I think, is not

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<v Speaker 2>coming walking back through that door as Rick Patino one

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<v Speaker 2>set of Larry Bird and Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale.

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<v Speaker 2>So Joe Biden's not coming back. I don't think Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's coming back. I don't think that Michelle Obama is

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<v Speaker 2>going to four years from now step forward. And the

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<v Speaker 2>only two Democrats who are really I thinking showing any

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<v Speaker 2>leadership two people who I disagree with greatly, but one

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<v Speaker 2>of whom I have an immense respect for, Bernie Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>of Vermont, who has always been clear about who he

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<v Speaker 2>was and who he is still today eighty three years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And aoc Alexandria Ocassio Cortes, who is making some noise

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<v Speaker 2>that she might take on Chuck Schumer, the longtime Senate

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<v Speaker 2>well formerly Senate Majority leader, now Senate Minority leader in

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<v Speaker 2>a Democratic primary, which would be well, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>the move moving out the old guard, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>the Joe Bidens of the world. I don't think Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>a former vice president, is coming back anytime soon, though

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she wants to now maybe be the governor

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<v Speaker 2>of California. Good luck with that or so. Over the weekend, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a big rally over the weekend in Denver, Colorado,

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<v Speaker 2>and suppose he was a huge rally. Bernie Sanders said

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<v Speaker 2>it was the largest rally that he had ever appeared

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<v Speaker 2>before Ocasio Cortez aoc was there with Bernie Senator Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>of Vermont, and then on Sunday yesterday he was on

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<v Speaker 2>with Jonathan Carl. Now, Jonathan Carl is not what you

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<v Speaker 2>would call someone who bedevils Democrats with tough questions. He

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<v Speaker 2>is a pretty mild mannered host. And he's talking to

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<v Speaker 2>Senator Sanders yesterday more and what he's he's talking about

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<v Speaker 2>this very issue, the future leadership of the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's I don't think we know who the the next

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic presidential nominee will be. Obviously it's three years from now,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's gonna it's gonna take some time to develop

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<v Speaker 2>a three years from now going going forward, God knows

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<v Speaker 2>who to be. My suspicion is probably be someone who

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<v Speaker 2>we never have really heard much about, some governor from somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania, who I think would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a much better vice won't be. Won't be Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Waltz of Minnesota. I think that's for sure. He I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he's going to lead the Democratic Party. But anyway, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a cut here. And now this is Brunie Sanders,

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<v Speaker 2>who was so frustrated with Jonathan Carl. Jonathan Carl is

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<v Speaker 2>the easiest interviewer at ABC and the friendliest the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Well maybe not the friendliest, but he's he's he's not

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's known as controversial. So he's asking Sanders some

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<v Speaker 2>questions about the rally, and AOC and Sanders are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, you know, showing up together. Uh maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a potential your dream team for the Democrats. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean whatever, I want to know who you think

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<v Speaker 2>will eventually head the Democratic Party. Uh as they as

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<v Speaker 2>they come out of the wilderness, and they will, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean have been in the wilderness before. The Republicans have

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<v Speaker 2>been in the wilderness for certain, and uh it's they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a Democrat, don't worry about that. Nationally, we have

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<v Speaker 2>two major parties. The the the race that Donald Trump won,

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<v Speaker 2>he won by a couple of million votes. But that

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<v Speaker 2>was a couple of million votes out of about one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty eight million votes. So you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>likes to call it a mandate. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>it's a mandate. I think it was an impressive victory,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think it was a mandate anyway. This

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<v Speaker 2>is cut number twenty six, So just follow along. Hair

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders actually gets up out of the interview and it

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<v Speaker 2>ends the interview. He gets pretty snarky and he gets up,

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<v Speaker 2>gets gets out of his chair, and Carl is almost

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where he's begging him to sit back down.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was this. It was a sad show

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<v Speaker 2>for Jonathan. Carl should have said, you want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the interview, that's your choice, but he cajoled and Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>to sit back down. This is got to you got

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<v Speaker 2>to understand the context of it. This is cut number

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy you're out there with the AOC today.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see her as a future of the producer?

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<v Speaker 3>You have one of the untold stories, yeah, of what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on in Carrent American Pauls is that in the

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<v Speaker 3>House of Representatives, you have dozens and dozens of strong,

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<v Speaker 3>smart disciplined, hard working young people in the Progressive Caucus.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, way back when when I first came

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<v Speaker 3>to the Congress of the House, I helped form the

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<v Speaker 3>Progressive Caucus. We had five people at that time. Now

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<v Speaker 3>they got close to one hundred, So you got a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot of good people. Alexandra is extraordinary. I am

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<v Speaker 3>so impressed by her work in Congress and her just

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<v Speaker 3>she inspires young people all over the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to see her joining in the Senate?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>We have, as I said, just a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people in the Congress. Okay, got it, and thanks way,

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<v Speaker 3>I got one one that's important. Well, I asked you, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know you want to do nonsense. Do nonsense. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to talk about inside the beltway stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I got thirty two thousand people. I was just asking

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<v Speaker 3>you about AOC because she was fine. But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about this. What was the last question.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just asking one more question about you. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that's all. This was literally lost. But what is

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<v Speaker 2>your question? Well, I mean he's begging him to sit down.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I want to ask you about your future.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the biggest crowd you said, usually ran for

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<v Speaker 2>president twice. This is the biggest crowd you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to see you run again? Or what's

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<v Speaker 2>your what's your faure?

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<v Speaker 3>Right now? I am very proud that the people who

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Vermont sent me back to the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>with sixty three percent of the work right now and

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<v Speaker 3>Vermont's senator. That's what I do, and I'm very happy

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<v Speaker 3>to do it. I am eighty three years of age,

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<v Speaker 3>so and I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 2>He also sounded pretty snarky, and he couldn't remember the

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<v Speaker 2>question what he was What Carl was trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>him to say was that, yes, maybe maybe AOC should

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<v Speaker 2>run for the Senate, and the Senate seat that's coming

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<v Speaker 2>up in New York is that of Chuck Schumer. Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>wanted no part of that question, and Carl, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>asked a normal question that flowed out of his admiration

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<v Speaker 2>for AOC as a new leader. We talked about all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. I mean, they talked about that. It was

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<v Speaker 2>an obvious question that would be a follow up question.

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<v Speaker 2>Sanders couldn't remember the question. Carl, I think was fearful

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<v Speaker 2>that he was going to ask him the question again,

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<v Speaker 2>what a disaster for both Sanders and for Carl So

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get your reaction to that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>also want to get your reaction to who should the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats be looking for toward in twenty twenty four. Who

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<v Speaker 2>should it be. Maybe there's a name that you think

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<v Speaker 2>that I will agree with you on and disagree with

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<v Speaker 2>you on. I don't know who it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Democrats better get their act together. They are

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<v Speaker 2>now a split party. They're a party that's run by

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<v Speaker 2>the progressives, just like they're run here in Massachusetts. But

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the country is not buying what we're

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<v Speaker 2>buying here in Massachusetts. It's as simple as that. And

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<v Speaker 2>you look at all of these issues. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>judges who are now saying, let us keep we need

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<v Speaker 2>more illegal immigrants in America, We need more criminal immigrants,

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<v Speaker 2>illegal immigrants in America. This is crazy. Whether you like

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump or not, Donald Trump is running circles around

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<v Speaker 2>the National Democratic Party and they don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>How can they get their act together? Looking for some advice,

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<v Speaker 2>some guidance coming back on Nightside, be back right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This now, back to Dan Ray Live from the Window

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<v Speaker 1>World Nightside studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, how about that. We got people wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>talk on the phone. That is a good thing, that

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<v Speaker 2>is for sure. Let me go to Joe in Belmont.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe your first this hour, Go right ahead, Joe. Who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to lead the Democrats out of the worldness.

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<v Speaker 4>Mayor Michael Flynn. But I want to tell you, I voted, well, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Mayor Michael, what was it, Mayor Michael Flynn?

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<v Speaker 4>Ray Flynn.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Ray Flynn is in his.

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<v Speaker 4>Way, someone someone who had values like him, who was

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<v Speaker 4>pro life.

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<v Speaker 2>PROGA, someone like someone like a Ray Flynn. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. I get it, referring to his son or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Nor someone who has values like him, someone who is

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<v Speaker 4>pro life, pro family, for the homeless, for the poor.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would vote for him in uh twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't think a Democrat could ever change their

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<v Speaker 4>values of being pro life. I think it's almost impossible.

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't let a Democrat do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that issue is fairly settled at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that the Supreme Court has spoken

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<v Speaker 2>on it. But uh, if you still think that you

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<v Speaker 2>can run on that issue and win, I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think the Democrats are going to change their position

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<v Speaker 2>on that at all. Joe, and I think the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>are very happy with where the Supreme Court is right now,

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<v Speaker 2>where that the Dobbs decision was. I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a big issue in twenty twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it will be, maybe it will be with some voters.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan, I like to think I'm like you that I

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<v Speaker 4>can criticize both Republicans and Democrats. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be a rubber stamp for Elon Muscot Trump, even

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<v Speaker 4>any Democrat.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, I agree with you. As an individual,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to look at every issue and got to

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<v Speaker 2>say I agree or I disagree. That's all I mean. Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you I have very close friends,

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<v Speaker 2>I have relatives. We agree. We disagree on not only

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<v Speaker 2>family matters, but on political matters. We disagree on who

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<v Speaker 2>to root for, whether they're going to root for the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox or some other team. That's what life is

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<v Speaker 2>all about. We're all not like a bunch of robots

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<v Speaker 2>walking around saying this is how I should think because

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<v Speaker 2>someone told me this is how I should think. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not healthy. That's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 4>Joe, in twenty twenty eight, would you vote for a

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<v Speaker 4>Democratic candidate who represented May of Flint of the values.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think such a Democratic candidate would exist.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Dan Yeah, he was, he was. He was

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<v Speaker 2>Ray Flynn is still. I was with Ray Flynn a

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<v Speaker 2>week and a half ago. Uh, and he's doing fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Like anyone else. He's getting along there. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>And night.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope his son can fill his shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Big shoes to fill, no doubt about that. Joe appreciates called.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much, good one. Okay, you talk later, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to Bill and Danvers. Bill, I know

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to devour each other to a degree. But

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<v Speaker 5>as they get crazy, Uh, and they're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 5>And they're gonna have a big money crunch that ain't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I happen to agree. I think they got

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<v Speaker 2>I think they got big problems now. But look, if

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<v Speaker 2>you go back to uh, Democrats and Republicans. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>in in the if George McGovern lost every state except

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<v Speaker 2>district of Columbia, and everybody thought the Democratic Party was

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<v Speaker 5>separation has ever been bigger, Dan, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>disagreed about maybe tax policy. At the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody got a hop a loaf, Okay. I mean we

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<v Speaker 5>used to think about Ted Kennedy as being this big

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<v Speaker 5>of him as Ronald Reagan. I mean what you're seeing, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, I don't know. I think Senator Kennedy was truly

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<v Speaker 2>I think, very consistent and changed with the Democratic He

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<v Speaker 2>changed along with the Democratic Party, although he was rejected

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty. But the thing about Ted Kennedy was

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<v Speaker 2>he actually had a great office on constituent services and

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<v Speaker 2>And compare what he does on constituent services what Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 5>And talout it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan Bill made the other day. He even said, he says,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, by twenty thirty, because if you look at

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<v Speaker 5>regulated in tax he goes, they're doubling down and they're

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<v Speaker 5>just not learning anything. And with the population shifts, he says,

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<v Speaker 5>it'll get to a point out to twenty thirty, a

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<v Speaker 5>Republican candidate for president would be able to win with Wisconsin, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 5>or Pennsylvania if you look at the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's a new poll out actually as a poll

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<v Speaker 2>that came out in September, but it's relatively new, and

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<v Speaker 2>it showed that amongst eighteen to twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 2>year old so those are the new voters, twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>percent identified as Democratic, twenty six percent identified as Republican.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an astonishing thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It is. But if you look deeper in the numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, excuse it's actually more of the women that

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<v Speaker 5>I tend to be much more liberal, and the men

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<v Speaker 5>and the young men are much more conservative. I've been

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<v Speaker 5>seeing a lot of it, especially this last election. I

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<v Speaker 5>was very surprised. Of course. I'm in the mall and

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<v Speaker 5>there's a whole bunch of younger guys that come in

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<v Speaker 5>and they talk and stuff, and predominantly a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>them are even you know, the family from the Latino families,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're much more and it really start and you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the solid, solid young guys. Damn very impressive. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>it actually gives me some hope for the future. Really

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<v Speaker 5>when I talk to them, and they'll last be stuff

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<v Speaker 5>and everything else. And I usually talk with them and

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<v Speaker 5>they get smooth as a protein and they go to

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<v Speaker 5>the gym or I'll see them at the gym, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're just great guys, and they tend to be much

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<v Speaker 5>more concerned. And they all say the girlfriends are very

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<v Speaker 5>much more liberal and they vote for Democrats and they

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<v Speaker 5>try to talk to them and stuff. But they're all

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think that the suggestion is that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>one amongst young white men and narrowly capture the support

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<v Speaker 2>So there's something going on here. And look over time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they talked about the gender gap in the

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<v Speaker 2>last election. Uh, Donald Trump did much better amongst women

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<v Speaker 2>than any of the polls suggested. He he came very

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<v Speaker 2>close to carrying not only the male vote, but the

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<v Speaker 2>female vote. There wasn't a huge gender gap, and there

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<v Speaker 2>had been a gender gap for many years during the

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<v Speaker 2>Bush years, and all of that, and the Bush and

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<v Speaker 2>Romney's and the mccains more establishment type Democrats had never

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<v Speaker 2>been able to close that gender gap. Trump believed it

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<v Speaker 2>or not, which device logic was able to close that

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<v Speaker 2>gender gap. Hey, Bill, I got a screwed here because

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<v Speaker 2>they got the news coming happy, I'll let you run.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, my friend, a good one by thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>Side right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's

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<v Speaker 2>So who lead the Democratic Party out of the world

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<v Speaker 2>of this? Let me go to Susan. Susan I think

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<v Speaker 2>would probably characterize yourself as a Democrat in Cambridge. Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be interested in your perspective on this.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, Before I do that, I just need to challenge

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<v Speaker 6>you a bit on your comments about the judges and immigration.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you were a banderius there.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't slanderous, but that's okay, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, because I mean, what they're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 6>follow the law and decide, you know, if they're using

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<v Speaker 6>appropriate methods. And there is evidence that meant that many

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<v Speaker 6>people who were sent to that Salvador and prison were

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<v Speaker 6>actually not gang members, and there are people who entered

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<v Speaker 6>and have legitimate asylum I have yet to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I have heard, I have heard that said, okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>I have yet to see any evidence of that whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you can point me towards some of that

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<v Speaker 2>evidence and if that is true, I do not support

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<v Speaker 2>people who are either American citizens or people who are here.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're going to deport people based upon their membership

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<v Speaker 2>in a gang, we better be sure about that, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 6>If I take a case of a gay, a gay

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<v Speaker 6>hairdresser from Venezuela who came through a porta ventury, had

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<v Speaker 6>there is a there's a photographer embedded down there who

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<v Speaker 6>basically has vouched for it, and his lawyers are well

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<v Speaker 6>again making.

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<v Speaker 2>That against Susan. I've heard about there's a Venezuelan soccer

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<v Speaker 2>player Okay, all of that. If there are mistakes that

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<v Speaker 2>were made, let's talk about it. My question to you

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<v Speaker 2>is this, I think it was around two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty people in the two flights to El Salvador whould deported. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's assume there were ten of them who were deported, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>inappropriately they were not members of the Trendiagara gang. Fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree with you that those people need to

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<v Speaker 2>be returned. Okay, if they are non criminal, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they're not with some other gang. But but if

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<v Speaker 2>if there were mistakes made, we'll bring those people back,

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<v Speaker 2>will give them hearings as soon as possible. Would you

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<v Speaker 2>agree with me though, that the fact that two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty members of this violent Venezuelan gang had deported

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not that we're we are not better off

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<v Speaker 2>as a country having them out of here.

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<v Speaker 6>Well sure, okay, so let's good.

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<v Speaker 2>We so we totally agree.

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<v Speaker 6>But two, I do think that well, I think it

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<v Speaker 6>should be done. We need due process for everybody, because

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<v Speaker 6>otherwise there are going to be made.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no no no

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<v Speaker 2>wait wait that hold on. We don't need process for

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<v Speaker 2>our government who knows who these people are. You've seen

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<v Speaker 2>the video of them taking over apartment buildings in Auroro, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you not believe your eyes when you see those.

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<v Speaker 6>If they know who they are, then they should have

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<v Speaker 6>the paperwork to prove it. I mean it's you know.

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<v Speaker 2>They know who they are, Susan. I positive for you

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<v Speaker 2>a situation if we are certain that two hundred and four,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just picking the number, Susan, Okay, if there's ten.

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<v Speaker 6>Twenty, because we've got because we've got do we have,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, document documented evidence. If we do, then great, then.

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<v Speaker 2>We have people. We have people within those communities who

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<v Speaker 2>know exactly who these people are. Many of them have

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<v Speaker 2>tattoos in ordered to be members of these gangs. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>not be naive, Susan. Okay, come on, It's like saying,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you know people are members of the mafia.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you get them on tape at their their

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<v Speaker 2>mafia ceremonies. And also, by the way, these people are

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<v Speaker 2>here illegally as members of a violent terrorist organization. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want them to have the same due process rights

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<v Speaker 2>that you and.

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<v Speaker 6>I have, so that we don't make the mistake that

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<v Speaker 6>the mistakes if.

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<v Speaker 2>We've made mistakes. We make mistakes all the time. We're human, Susan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're human. We make mistakes all the time. The Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>made a mistake of running Joe Biden and sticking with

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<v Speaker 2>him after he had lost it. Okay, they paid for

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<v Speaker 2>that mistake, and they'll have to correct it. But but

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand the amount of misdirected sympathy that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm picking up from you. If we have two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>in forty people who we know are gang members, what

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<v Speaker 2>do we have to do? Do we have to have

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<v Speaker 2>signed confessions from them? What is the standard of proof

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to prove that these people are members

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<v Speaker 2>of this gang?

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<v Speaker 6>I need a standard of proof that does not end

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<v Speaker 6>up imprisoning people who shouldn't be What you.

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<v Speaker 2>What is your standard? Look, there are people in this country, Susan. Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me for a second. I spent fifteen years of

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<v Speaker 2>my career advocating for four American citizens who were who

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<v Speaker 2>were indicted, convicted, and put in prison for a total

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<v Speaker 2>of one hundred and nine years. You know the case

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about, the Savadi Lamoni case. Okay, we were

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<v Speaker 2>able to We weren't able to give them their thirty

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<v Speaker 2>years of their life back. Okay, but that they did

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<v Speaker 2>win in court, they were released and one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is still alive today at the age of ninety two.

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<v Speaker 2>Should we their mistakes are made? Mistakes are made, but

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<v Speaker 2>that But if a mistake was made on someone who

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<v Speaker 2>was swept up inappropriately, I've already said to you, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can show to me that a mistake was made,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. But you don't want to be with

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<v Speaker 2>me when they're when when we're talking about two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty members of a violent terrorist gang. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with the Democratic Party right now. You're on the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong side of this issue.

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<v Speaker 6>I was trying to work something, Dan, we agree to suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>So Susan, you're talking Susan donuts that Susan, please don't

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<v Speaker 2>tell me you're talking to a reporter.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't because how.

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<v Speaker 2>Many people have you freed from prison in your life?

446
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<v Speaker 2>I put my career, I put my entire journalistic career

447
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<v Speaker 2>on the line to free four innocent men. Unfortunately two

448
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<v Speaker 2>of them passed while they were in prison, but free

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<v Speaker 2>in men who were convicted by corrupt FBI agents. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I need a lecture from you.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't. I understand the concept of due process,

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<v Speaker 2>and I understand the concepts of our judicial system. And

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<v Speaker 2>the judicial system is not perfect. But if we can

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<v Speaker 2>get two hundred and forty or so of these illegal

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<v Speaker 2>terrorists out of the country so that they will not

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<v Speaker 2>be terrifying American citizens, they will not be raping children,

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<v Speaker 2>they will not be murdering you or me, I'm okay

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<v Speaker 2>with that. And if you want to call me the

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<v Speaker 2>neanderthal for that, just look at my record, Susan. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very serious. I'm disappointed. I really am disappointed, Susan.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't be there on the line, okay, But I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not making any claims about you that like you're making

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<v Speaker 6>about me, like I think you're being unfair to me

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<v Speaker 6>in this.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked you a simple I conceded to you, Susan,

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of this conversation that I would stand

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<v Speaker 2>with you if there were people, as you mentioned, there

468
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<v Speaker 2>was a gay hairdresser, and I mentioned some venezuela and

469
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<v Speaker 2>soccer player. I don't know the specifics of it, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but if they weren't members of the gang. They should

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<v Speaker 2>be brought back here. What else do you want me

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<v Speaker 2>to say? And in that regard, Okay, okay, Now, what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying to you is we are we better off

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<v Speaker 2>or or with these two hundred and forty thugs who

475
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<v Speaker 2>came here illegally, and if many of them have committed

476
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<v Speaker 2>crimes while they're here, are we better off with them

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<v Speaker 2>out of the country. No, your heart is so big.

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<v Speaker 6>I believe the process matters in tur I believe them

479
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<v Speaker 6>are the country.

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<v Speaker 2>You know something, Susan, You're talking to the wrong guy

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<v Speaker 2>about process when you're talking to me, because I fought

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<v Speaker 2>that process for fifteen years and I got innocent people out,

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<v Speaker 2>innocent American citizens who were jailed by corrupt FBiH. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't need a lecture from you and that, Susan, I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't. And I'm offended.

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<v Speaker 6>You're not trying to lecture you on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure you are.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm expressing my point of view. I'm telling you how

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<v Speaker 6>I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all. Let me take you. Hold on to that

491
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<v Speaker 2>point of view because you'll win in Massachusetts, but you

492
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<v Speaker 2>will lose the White House, you will lose Congress and

493
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<v Speaker 2>you'll ultimately use the lose the US Supreme Court because

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<v Speaker 2>you're wrong on Bernie quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>To change the subject. I'm completely over Bernie. I have

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<v Speaker 6>agreed with him on some issues in the past, but

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<v Speaker 6>he never misses a chance to throw the Democratic Party

498
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<v Speaker 6>under the bus, as he did right after the election

499
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<v Speaker 6>when he threw Joe and Kamala under the bus and said,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, they didn't do enough for working people, when

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<v Speaker 6>in fact, this was probably the most pro working people

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<v Speaker 6>administration that there has been. And since I don't know, Fdr, maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something. It's the Biden administration will go

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<v Speaker 2>down in history probably as the greatest Democratic presidency of

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<v Speaker 2>the twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 6>If not, No, I sat pro worker, pro worker, which

507
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<v Speaker 6>is what you know Sandersmond.

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<v Speaker 2>Dream on, Susan dream on. If you do not realize

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<v Speaker 2>what a disaster the Biden administration was. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>disaster for the Democratic Party. I'm trying tonight to wake

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<v Speaker 2>people up to the disaster. Hang on to it, hang

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<v Speaker 2>on to it. When the Republicans in Goldwater in sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four they figured it out that you know what, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he he might have been a great philosophical candidate, but

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't going to win anything. Where the Democrats were

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<v Speaker 2>in mc govern in seventy two against Nixon and they

517
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<v Speaker 2>lost forty nine to one. They figured it out and

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<v Speaker 2>they found Jimmy Carter and became president in seventy six.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the Democrats have to do today. They got

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<v Speaker 2>to get it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the answer for the Democrats is not going

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<v Speaker 6>to be found in Washington. I think we have some

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<v Speaker 6>great governors, Andy Basher, Gretchen Whitmer, Josh Shapiro. I think

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<v Speaker 6>we have. I think that's where we should look to.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know, personally, I always think for president, I

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<v Speaker 6>always would rather have a former governor than a senator

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<v Speaker 6>or somebody who you know, are representative, like somebody who's

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<v Speaker 6>had executive authority. I think they tend to make that

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<v Speaker 6>a president.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you run. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>mad at you personally, Susan. I just was offended that

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<v Speaker 2>you were trying to lecture me and and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>that way. That was my feeling. I just want you

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<v Speaker 2>to know I really felt it deeply because you know

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<v Speaker 2>my history and when when anyone tries to lecture me.

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<v Speaker 6>Onempting to lecture merely, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I will take that as a I will take that

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<v Speaker 2>as an apology. Then, okay, thank you very much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great one. All right, we can end

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<v Speaker 2>still as friends. Okay, it's like a little bit of

541
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<v Speaker 2>a spat, but that's okay. Thanks, good night. We're coming

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get right back to the calls. Let me go

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<v Speaker 2>next to Dan is in Hampton, New Hampshire. Dan next

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<v Speaker 2>on Nice, I go right ahead, Thank.

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<v Speaker 7>You, Dan. What I'm gonna say, in March of nineteen

549
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<v Speaker 7>seventy three, who knew who Jimmy Cotter was? Or in

550
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<v Speaker 7>March of nineteen eighty nine, who knew who Bill Clinton was?

551
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<v Speaker 7>You can even go back to the fifty sixth convention.

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<v Speaker 7>I know he introduced himself a little bit with the

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<v Speaker 7>vice presidential thing, but you know, really, who knew much

554
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<v Speaker 7>about Jack Kennedy at that point?

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<v Speaker 2>True? You know, true, that's exactly what I've said that

556
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<v Speaker 2>and I agree with that. Yeah, obviously, if they said it,

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with it. We may not know, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just curious, who do you think you got an.

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<v Speaker 7>Idea and no, I like miracles. I certainly who do

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<v Speaker 7>you like?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry I missed an.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh the Michigan Mercle Michigan. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 7>always I always get ton tagged when I'm on the

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<v Speaker 7>air with you. I don't know why that is.

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<v Speaker 2>But were you Are you more of a Democrat or

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<v Speaker 2>a Republican?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a Democrat?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you like so you like Whitmury. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of what Susan from Cambridge was saying when we finally

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<v Speaker 2>got to the She was talking about the sheer.

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<v Speaker 7>Of Yeah, Shapiro like him.

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<v Speaker 8>I like the sheer a bunch Kentucky that would be yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I like him too. I think she's probably right. It

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<v Speaker 8>will probably be a governor. And do we know Shapiro

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<v Speaker 8>was I know all all the names that we've mentioned,

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<v Speaker 8>but you know, it may very end up being name.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when Waltz was nominated by Paris? Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you do it. It was only a few years ago

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody said, wow, that's a brilliant suggestion in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>But Walt's turned out to be a buffoon. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>did he help He.

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<v Speaker 7>Had a bad debate. If you listened to him lately

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<v Speaker 7>what he's been saying, he's actually sounded really well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe Walts, maybe Wals should be the guy. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to say.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, I'm not saying I'm not saying he's good.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying he's going to be the guy. But

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<v Speaker 7>can I just can I just have fifty seconds to

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<v Speaker 7>tell you a quick story that I think people should hear. Sure, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>Back in nineteen sixty, my parents held the neighborhood election party.

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<v Speaker 7>There are people there for Kennedy, there are people there

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<v Speaker 7>for Nixon. My father, World War two veteran, was seriously

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<v Speaker 7>wounded in battle. He was for jfk. Our neighbor across

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<v Speaker 7>the street was a prisoner of war in Germany. Now,

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<v Speaker 7>the two of them sat up together until the we

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<v Speaker 7>of the morning to see until finally, around five am

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<v Speaker 7>whatever it was that the winner was decland and they

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<v Speaker 7>got up and they shook hands, and they knew they

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<v Speaker 7>were shaking hands because that is what they fought for,

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<v Speaker 7>so they could do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hats off to your dad. And I assumed the

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<v Speaker 2>fellow who had been the pow was for Nixon.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I've met to say well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like watching a Red Sox play the

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<v Speaker 2>Yankees in a playoff game. If you root for one team,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't lose your friendship over that. I mean this'

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<v Speaker 2>and a presidential election, you know, I mean it's the

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<v Speaker 2>other party will come back. I mean, you know how

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<v Speaker 2>the pendulum swings. And I just you know, I just thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to wake the Democratic party up, Nashaly, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to wake the Republican party up here in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you mention being a Republican in Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Conservative, It's not easy.

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<v Speaker 7>No, No. I tended by our Massachusetts when I was

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<v Speaker 7>up to you for no.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Dan, I'm gonna let you run. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>keep rolling here. Okay, thanks man, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you soon. Let me keep rolling here. Mark

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<v Speaker 2>in Austin, Mark next on nights. I get you in

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<v Speaker 2>here before the great.

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<v Speaker 9>Mark, and thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 10>Welcome you add my uh A name to the consensus.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh Andy Bischer, governor of He should be on the

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<v Speaker 10>short list for.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So what about AOC running against Schumer? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you like that?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm I'm not thrilled about that one. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 9>got to keep the government. Is the government operating? I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, I was very relieved to come back from

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<v Speaker 9>the Social Security office in Roslindale and have this very

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<v Speaker 9>nice woman employee looks things up in computer and see

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<v Speaker 9>that yes, I will get my monthly uh social Security

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<v Speaker 9>payment direct deposited. Therefore I will be able to pay

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<v Speaker 9>my April rent.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you this, Mark, if you had

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<v Speaker 2>been worried about it, I could have saved you a

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<v Speaker 2>trip to the SOB Security office. If you had given

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<v Speaker 2>me a call, I could have assured you, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you think Trump's gonna take away your so security check?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, that would be there were.

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<v Speaker 9>Some horrible noises coming.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 9>I gotta do on a reputable table EV channel.

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<v Speaker 2>Well's not reputable anymore than is it, Mark, do me

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite? Keep those bad thoughts?

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<v Speaker 9>VU Commerce secretary saying, so what if one gets missed?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Mark, I think I think you're losing sleep

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<v Speaker 2>unnecessarily because you're listening. You give me a call and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you a straight story.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll give you I Look, look, they played the video

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<v Speaker 9>tape in context. I mean it doesn't get you know,

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<v Speaker 9>we're in weird.

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<v Speaker 8>Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, I copy your psychologists. Mark. All I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying to you is, if you have questions, you give

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<v Speaker 2>me a call. Don't worry, don't fret your head. I

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<v Speaker 2>got to run, Thanks very much. Laurie is in Norwood. Laurie,

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<v Speaker 2>you were next on nights. I get you in under

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<v Speaker 2>the wire.

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<v Speaker 11>Here, Laurie Dane, first time caller. I just had all right,

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<v Speaker 11>I had a right ahead, thank you. I had a

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<v Speaker 11>call to counter Susan's position. I agree with you completely,

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<v Speaker 11>and I think that's why we're in trouble in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 11>and have been prior to the last two months. Just

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<v Speaker 11>people don't think correctly. We got to get these murderers, rapists,

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<v Speaker 11>dreg dealers out of our country, and they were illegal

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<v Speaker 11>to begin with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, here's the thing, Laurie, which I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>your calling on this. We have enough homegrown murders, murderers,

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<v Speaker 2>rapists and child in this country. Okay, as we have

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<v Speaker 2>all found out over the years, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>bring more into the country. Stand why people are so

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<v Speaker 2>interested in you know, well, these they we need to have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't we leave them in the country for the

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<v Speaker 2>next six years and line them up for a hearing

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<v Speaker 2>with a with some sort of a federal judge like

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<v Speaker 2>the guy down in Washington. I mean, yeah, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 11>It really is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>And I'm just hoping that these next four years show

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of progress and uh, stop the waste, fraud

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<v Speaker 11>and abuse and corruption.

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<v Speaker 12>It'll pay well, I know, but I hope that if

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<v Speaker 12>Donald Trump can accomplish, you know, he should be a

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<v Speaker 12>little more more music, you know, he can he I

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<v Speaker 12>think the image of of of Musk with the chainsaw

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<v Speaker 12>the other day is a dumb image, that mistake.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and I think that's what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And if the Republicans can pull their act together

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<v Speaker 2>and can actually turn the turn the country around, they

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<v Speaker 2>should be rewarded for it. And and the Democrats need

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<v Speaker 2>to need the Democrats need to come back to the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>They are so far out nationally it's an embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 11>Well yeah, I mean hey, in my opinion, lets them

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<v Speaker 11>stay where they are and ask for and Trump will

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<v Speaker 11>get vancent for another eight and then maybe our national

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<v Speaker 11>debt will will go down to hero.

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<v Speaker 2>And music to my ears, Laurie, thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 2>first time calling. You got to call more often come on,

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<v Speaker 2>I will, I will. I need voices like you. There

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<v Speaker 2>are too many people sit out there and I need

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<v Speaker 2>voices like you on my program. Thanks Laurie, thank you.

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<v Speaker 11>So you by all right, have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>Here comes the news at eleven. We're gonna stick with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Light up those lines, you know what numbers to call,

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<v Speaker 2>coming back on Nightside