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Altaho eight three seven one five. But now here is

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the one hundredth radio episode of Dragnet from May tenth,

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nineteen fifty one.

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Speaker 2: The Big Drills.

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Speaker 3: The story you were about to hear is true, only

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the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're

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a detective sergeant. You're assigned to burglary detail. For the

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past eighteen weeks, a gang of safe men have been

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breaking into large grocery stores all over the city.

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Speaker 4: They work fast. You can't localize their operations.

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Speaker 5: Your job get.

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Speaker 6: Them Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. While

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the next thirty minutes in cooperation with the Los Angeles

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Police Department.

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Speaker 5: You will travel step by step on the side of

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the law through an.

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Speaker 6: Actual case transcribed from official police files. From beginning to end,

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from crime to punishment. Dragnet is the story of your

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police force and action.

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Speaker 7: It was Wednesday, September sixteenth, was hot in Los Angeles.

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We're working a day watch out of burgery detail. My

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partner's Ben Romero. The boss's Captain Wisdom. My name is Friday.

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It was seven forty five am when I got to

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the service station on the corner the phone booth.

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Speaker 4: Anyhow two five two four please.

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Speaker 8: Breg Maury Rubles, I.

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Speaker 4: Take this fidy Romero there, Moman, Joe, thank you, Hey Romeo,

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I'll take two.

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Speaker 8: Romero.

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Speaker 4: Is Friday? Ben?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? Where you've been?

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Speaker 4: Wow? My car again? Something's wrong with that distributor. I'm

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gonna leave it at the service station and I'll grab

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a street car down.

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Speaker 8: Huh heyhead again Joe. It's gonna make a thirty seven job.

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Speaker 4: We're at this time.

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Speaker 8: We have some brothers market Melrose and Green drilled us

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safe and walked out with four hundred and sixty two dollars.

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Speaker 4: Steakhouts are doing a lot of good, aren't they. I'm

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worn out from last night.

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Speaker 8: I didn't get any sleep. Beat the just that time

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to go home, brush my teeth when this thing broke.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you said, Melrose and Green.

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Speaker 8: Yeah right, I won't wait for you. I'll go right

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on out there. Armstrong and Rubles just left right.

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Speaker 4: I can get over there as fast as I can.

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Speaker 8: Oh Man went down here, bright and merrily. Thank you, jobbing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'll see you later.

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Speaker 8: Huh oh, Joe just meant it. Gibber just came in

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the end there right anywhere to Melrose.

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Speaker 9: I's ry.

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Speaker 4: Why do you get back? I want to see you

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two of my officer right.

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Speaker 8: I guess you heard it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I did?

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Speaker 8: Gets you the kail from the dome of his voice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds a little upset. How's he loved the same way.

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For eighteen weeks, Ben and I had been assigned to

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this same case.

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Speaker 7: The burglary gang was victimizing only Wilson Brothers Market throughout

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the city and in surrounding towns adjacent to the city

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of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: Their criminal activities had given them.

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Speaker 10: Well over one hundred thousand dollars stolen from these various markets,

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additional officers were assigned from the Metropolitan Division, and the

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case had grown.

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Speaker 4: To large proportions. It was twelve minutes.

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Speaker 7: Past eight when I arrived at Melrose and Green Streets,

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the latest Wilson market to be victimized.

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Speaker 4: Same thing, Joe, just like Colore. Yeah the crime, I

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have fined anything, been here and gone.

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Speaker 10: We found a few particles of claw, probably from the

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guy's bloods, some metal shavings for spectrographical analysis, same as.

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Speaker 4: On all the other job how the game, the entry,

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same way on front, looks like a tyren ride the.

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Speaker 10: Door, come about the burglar a line, No problem, there's

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Speaker 4: I'm up and take a lot.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, see yeah, I see it.

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Speaker 4: Cut the key leaves again. Huh. Now thing's different, Joe,

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just exactly the same all around. Really cares if then?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, two hundred and fifty two men on the stakeout

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last night, and they know just which market to hit.

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Speaker 4: One that isn't covered.

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Speaker 10: When you figure Wilson's got over three hundred stores, we

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Speaker 4: I think we might have some of the luck we

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sure overdue. Nobody could be this lucky this long. You

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know they're out to break the record. I haven't turned

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up anything to do at all, not so far. I've

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been looking around. Come on, yeah, Rubles and Armstrong in

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the store.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're taking them back of the store of stock room, employees,

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locker room.

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Speaker 4: And how much is taken goes you on the phone.

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Speaker 10: Four hundred and sixty two dollars some checks about two

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hundred dollars worth.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is Wednesday. I suppose the thieves have discontinued

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the weekend jobs.

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Your guess is as good as mine.

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Speaker 10: Here's a buck, yeah, sure, good clean job. A lot

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Speaker 11: Huh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've come a long way. It was safe for

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certainly well lighted whenever up there, Bill Bunning when we

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got here. Doesn't do much good with.

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Speaker 10: All those boxes piled up over there in front of

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the window, though Maner says he went there when he

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closed up there. Now nothing seems to botto room, does it.

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They move in, don't chance turning out the light. They

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just pile crates up between themselves in the street, and

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then they take their time going the box.

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Speaker 4: That's it. There's the usual empty pop bottle, three of them,

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cool of bits with you know, Hi Friday didn't know

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you were here. Ye, Rubles, are you have we got something? Yeah,

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fist he's out of the drain in the bathroom. What

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you got? Looks like they're trying to get rid of some.

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Speaker 10: Of the checks torn up and it's fishing license written too.

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Speaker 4: Could I see the Charles W. Royal issued last month?

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Speaker 10: A good chance he might have carried the license in

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his pocket and got it mixed up with the checks first.

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his mind, tore him up the license with him. Let's

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hope you're right to day, but it might just belong

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to some employee here.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've been kind of figuring these jobs might have

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an inside connection. Maybe this is it. Let's check it out. Yeah,

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maybe this is the break we've been looking for. We

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Royal through R and I. No record.

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Speaker 7: We contacted the management of the Wilson Markets. He had

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been an employee at the store which was just held up.

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He'd been transferred six months prior to their van Ey's branch.

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In checking back, we found that the Vaney's Market was one.

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Speaker 4: Of the first stores to be burglarize.

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Speaker 10: It was placed under surveillance for several days, and during

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this period another Wilson market was Burgeride.

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Speaker 7: The officers conducting a surveillance accounted for all of Royal's

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time during the burglary. It was brought in for questioning

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were cleared of any complicity in the burglaries. Monday, September

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twenty eighth, eight am, we met with capt'n Wisdom.

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Speaker 10: The reason for royal fishing license being in with those

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checks was because he left it behind at that store

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when he was transferred.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 10: Manager of the store confirmed it that he kept it

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in the safe for him so it wouldn't get lost.

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Speaker 4: That lead went nowhere, and none of them go anywhere.

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We don't get any leads.

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Speaker 10: Men, No kickbacks on any of our teletypes. Apb's radiogram

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between Armstrong, Rubles and Ben and I. The girls in

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the stats office think we're on the payroll down there.

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We're wearing out the cards having to make runs on

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the game's m for us. How about that last stuff

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Breton from the CII sent down.

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Speaker 4: Then we checked all three of them out. Nothing.

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Speaker 10: Boys in the crime lab got a lot of physical

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evidence that they could make something out of it.

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Speaker 4: That's just it. You can't make something out of nothing.

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You haven't got much up there. A few steel shavings

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off those safe, a couple of.

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Speaker 10: Broken bits, handfull of cotton fuzz I think is off.

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The guy's gloves can't work miracles.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I don't think we've overlooked any in Cap'n.

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Speaker 10: Every neighborhood in the vicinity of every burglary has been

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checked and rechecked.

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Speaker 4: And all you turned up was that one woman now,

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the one that saw the three men out in the

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back of the Wilson Market overr on Vermont. She thought

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they worked there, didn't know she'd witnessed the burgery. We

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told her she couldn't identify an apple. I just checked

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with the Sheriff's office.

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Speaker 10: These burglaries are driving them crazy too, Only it's voice

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from the parole office.

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Speaker 4: Been trying to give us a hand.

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Speaker 10: Have checked out everything they sent us on dischargees and parole.

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Speaker 4: Nothing fit well.

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Speaker 10: Did the markets seem to be cooperating, holding up their

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end as they were instructed?

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Speaker 4: Well, as far as we can tell, right to the letter.

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Speaker 10: You know, all the safes that were concealed in anyway

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have been moved out in a more conspicuous spot.

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Speaker 4: All well eliminated.

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Speaker 7: Wilson Company has bought better made safe to replace the

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ones that we're broken into that are replacing their old

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models as fast as they can. Doesn't seem to stop them. Yeah,

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all that's according a book. Doesn't figure it.

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Speaker 10: All those precautions, they'd be foolish enough to tip off

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the thieves.

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Speaker 4: I mean here, pick a look at this. Yeah, Washing

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and Gun turned this up at that venus full of

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our job night before and last let me a graft

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stakeout instructions.

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Speaker 10: That's right put out by the management of the markets

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every time we informed them of a stake out at night,

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they put these inner store memos on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was for the purpose of informing all the.

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Speaker 10: Different store managers of the police Department's plan so they'd

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be sure and comply with our instructions. Motive was okay,

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but the effects have been causing us more trouble than

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we know. We weren't these destroyed after the store managers

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read them.

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Speaker 4: Apparently not.

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Speaker 10: We'd notify the management of the stores to be staked

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out a week in advance so that they could quietly

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let the stores know about it.

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Speaker 4: Whether we wanted the lights left on and turned off

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to move the safe out of hiding all.

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Speaker 10: The various instructions, and the management if the market changes

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took it on themselves to send out these memio sheets.

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You know, not only that in checking the last couple

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of jobs, either these sheets were in the manager's desks

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or they were posted in the store someplace. All what

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Beves had to do was go through a desk or

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check a bullet and boardening and right where we'd be

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without this advanced information. Maybe it'll slow them down. Maybe

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we can write in on part of the luck we'd Yeah,

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Now come on over here at the pin map Friday

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and red pin for you and one for you rom Merrow,

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you'll put them in. I got calllesses of my thumb

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from trying to keep up with those things.

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Speaker 4: Who you know, Vellis Boulevard and rock Well from us

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myth huh. You just look at him on there.

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Speaker 10: They're gonna run uside of pins if we don't blow

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the whistle on them.

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Speaker 4: And I'm getting a little sick of it myself.

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Speaker 10: You take a good look at the map here, all

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the red pins of these market jobs in and around

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here and through here. Now, as you know, Wilson's got

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stores throughout most of southern California. Yeah, they've hid in

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and around the metropolitan area a Mona, Glendale, a couple

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of times at the beach cities.

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Speaker 4: Look over here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Now for some reason, the leaving Eagle Rock alone. There's

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seven Wilson markets out there, and not one of them

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have been touched.

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Speaker 4: Or maybe they'll hit there next huh.

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Speaker 10: And we double checked all Cruiser units out there, told

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them to be doubly alert, also to report any suspicious

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moves arounder any of the stores. I want to report

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in any and all cars driving below normal speeds anywhere

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near those markets, anything even remotely out of line. There's

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seven stores in the around that area.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, Burglary.

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Speaker 5: Wisdom, Hi, going, Who's that.

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Speaker 4: They did Colorado on Brian Yeah right away, Yep, that

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was Lieutenant Vaughan Highland Park. I was wrong.

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Speaker 10: There's only six stores in Ingle Rock, now, what I mean,

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they're not going over last night.

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Speaker 7: The preliminary investigation of the Wilson Brothers market and Eagle

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Rock yielded no additional physical evidence, but it definitely showed

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that we were dealing with the same gang of thieves

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in this last burglary, they got away with eighteen hundred

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and fifty two dollars.

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Speaker 4: One thirty four.

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Speaker 7: Pm, after five hours of continuous checking in the immediate

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neighborhood of the latest market to be burglarized, Ben and

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I located a Missus Olive Rebard.

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Speaker 10: We felt sure that we'd reached the turning point in

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the case. Missus Rebard had seen two.

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Speaker 7: Of the gang members at work in the Wilson Market

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at Colorado and Bryce and Eagle Rock. She agreed to

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come downtown and go through photographs of criminal suspects.

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Speaker 4: No, not any of these. Let's try the next two paces.

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There are a lot of them, aren't the Yes, ma'am.

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There's still a lot more to go here.

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Speaker 11: I see.

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Speaker 4: No one of these sons.

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Speaker 8: This book.

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Speaker 4: How many does that make we've been through? I believe

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this one makes fifteen.

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Speaker 11: Looking at all those faces makes you wonder are there

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any honest people?

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Speaker 4: I always books represent an accumulation of many years. You understand, you.

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Speaker 11: Keep pictures of everybody ever been in prison, well within

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our jurisdiction.

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Speaker 10: Yes, and a great many more besides. I see, man,

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how about that fulsome book up there for forty five

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and forty six.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll put this one back fine forty six. Yeah,

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that's it, And here we are you ready, missus leeb

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all right, No, no, I don't believe it's any of them.

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Turn the next dace, and how about these.

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Speaker 11: H this one?

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Speaker 4: No, No, that one fellow looked a little like one

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of them. I thought he did it first. Which one

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was that? This one? No? I was I was wrong.

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You looked familiar with first glance. Well, now we told

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you before, mis reebn.

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Speaker 10: If any of these men in their ears, eyes, nose, chin,

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any part of them looks like any part of the

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men that you saw, we'd like to know that.

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Speaker 4: We'll have our sergeant put off up in their crime

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lab drop a composite for you. You mean you put

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all the different features together, Yes, ma'am. You think it

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might helpen anyway, I mean will certainly help.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 11: I didn't realize that you were that thoroughly to be well,

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I'm just not that sure about any of their features.

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Just like I told you, I didn't get too good

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a look at them, but I thought I might remember.

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There's so many pictures here.

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Speaker 4: We would you like to rest a little on as

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webard we've been going at this thing for about two hours. No,

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that's all right. I want to help if I can,

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thank God, open this door a little joe, all right.

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I got a little draft in from the hall, gets

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a little stuff in you. Sometimes. I wonder if you'd

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like a cold drink or some kind of coke something out.

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Thank you, that's very kind. I'm careful one, all right?

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You like to go on?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Mm hm.

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Speaker 11: You understand that when I saw these men in the store,

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I had to look through the front window. We must

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have been at least for feet away from me. I

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had a shot to be heard, Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 4: We understand.

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Speaker 11: They didn't come over to me at all. I just

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can't believe that they were really those lightning burglars. Isn't

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that what the paper called?

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Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 11: They were just as big as light They're standing behind

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the meat counter. They even had on the butcher's ay

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for Still hard to believe, because they didn't act like.

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Speaker 4: Burglers at all. Sometimes they don't.

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Speaker 11: The only thing that struck me funny was that anybody

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be working there on a Sunday. I've seen men in

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there before. It just didn't seem right that they'd be

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working there.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to get in to.

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Speaker 11: Pick up a box of starch. They told me to

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come back Monday morning when they were open.

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Speaker 10: If you could have seen over the counter from where

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you were standing, you would have seen the floor safe

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right there in the meat department.

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Speaker 4: They were trying to open it known it.

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Speaker 11: You're sure you people couldn't have made a mistake.

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Speaker 10: No, ma'am, I don't think so. We've checked there and

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there was no authorized employees in that story. Yesterday morning.

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Speaker 4: Must have been then, yeah, we're pretty sure it was.

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And let me help your damages right by. These pages

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are stuck together.

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Speaker 11: I've seen so many photographs. They're only going to look

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alike to me.

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Speaker 4: You'd like to rest a while, It's fine, Maybe you'd

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like to go home, come back a little later. Do

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you know something that I'm positive now I wouldn't know

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those men if I saw.

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Speaker 6: You are listening to drag Net from beginning to end.

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Drag Net is the authentic story of your police force

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and action.

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Speaker 7: M Once more, what appeared to first be a good

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lead dissolved into nothing. The stakeouts were continued. Everything possible

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was being done to apprehend them. The burglaries of the

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Wilson markets continued. On the night of October third, Officers D. B.

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O'Connell and P. W. Murphy were working the stakeout on

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one of the Wilson markets in Eagle Rock.

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Speaker 4: At two thirty three am.

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Speaker 10: They had observed a great Board Coop California licensed nine

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Robert nine eight one three driving at normal speed until

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reaching the storefront and then slowing down perceptibly, showing unusual

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interest in the market. Lieutenant Armstrong and Sergeant Rubles check

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the license number through DMV.

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Speaker 4: The car was registered to a Clyde R.

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Speaker 10: Bingham two three three South Carmona Place in Eagle Rock.

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It was placed under surveillance while we made a thorough

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check into his background. We located him at the Neighborhood

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Bar on Colorado Boulevard.

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Speaker 4: We talked to him for an hour, so that's it.

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure, man, Are you sure you didn't drive

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fast that Wilson market on Bellevue Avenue. I didn't say,

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I've never done driven by it, but not on the night.

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You said, well, have you driven by it another Night's

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I wouldn't remember that. I live out here and I'd

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drive down Beltue a lot, but I don't know if

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I've ever been by that market.

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Speaker 4: I suppose I have.

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Speaker 10: We have your likings number, and the word of two

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officers will tell you. I'm fraid they must be mistaken.

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You have the word of Benny and Walt. You just

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talk to them. I told you I was here on

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the night of October third. I stayed here until almost daylight,

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talking to Walt. He closed up at two, and sat

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around and talked. What'd you say your car was parked

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all this time right out in front? Ben Wal told

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you that too. I'm telling you I never left this place.

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Speaker 4: The other night.

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Speaker 5: Is it possible you could have forgotten.

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Speaker 10: Not all three of us and you didn't loan your

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cart anybody? No, sir, I never loaned my car stayed

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right out there in front. What'd you say you did

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after this place closed? As I said, I sat around

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and talked to Wall he owns the place. What'd you

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talk about? Well, I don't know all this, and that

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I don't recall exactly. You go to work the following day, Yes,

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I did it. It's funny you'd sit up on that

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talking and go to work.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to be to work until I please.

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You know my own books. You know, when you run

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your business all by yourself. No, I have two secretaries.

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They make up.

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Speaker 10: Checks, keep the books. What kind of business did you

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say you were in business management?

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 10: The thing that bothers me is why you're asking me

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all these questions. Routine investigation and sound very routine to me.

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I don't understand well on an assignment. During the course

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of that assignment, it became necessary to interrogate you. I

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still don't understand anything else you want to know, No, sir,

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I think that pretty well covers it. Something I'd like

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to know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is there a law against slowing down in front

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of a market?

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Speaker 7: Ben and I felt that Bingham was lying for some

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reason that we were not aware of. All efforts were

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made to determine that reason. We made a complete search

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of his residents. His relatives, friends, and associates were interrogated.

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The two men who had alibied for him were checked out.

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No evidence was obtained to connect him in any way

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with the Wilson Market burglaries. A surveillance was continued on

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the three men. During the next two weeks, another market

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was burglarized. None of the three men could have been

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involved in any way. Another month went by, the burglaries

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continued unchecked. The newspapers had dubbed them the Lightning bandits.

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There was only one exception to the title. By this time,

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they'd begun to repeat on markets to hit again where

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they had burglarized the safe previously. December third, four am,

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Ben and I were cruising the central area of the

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section not covered by steakhom.

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Speaker 10: I figured there's only one way to beat this thing. Now,

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what's that as for a transfer before they offer us one? Well,

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it seems like every way we turned or stopped, no

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leads nothing here. It is almost Christmas again. Those markets

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these started last Easter.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: Now we got everything covered again tonight as best we can.

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Speaker 10: We could just keep all the markets covered at one time.

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Well that's been done a couple of times, you know that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that. But keep them covered all the time.

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Do we get to them? If we had demand far,

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we could do it. Yeah, you want to swing in

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close to the curb. Here's another market yet see anything? No,

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nothing on this side.

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Speaker 10: We can't see the safe in there, can you No,

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those vegetable counters are partially blocking it.

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Speaker 4: Lights on all.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this side's clear to rear of the store, backs

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up against that other building, doesn't Yeah, only a front

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and side entrance.

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Speaker 4: They swing around again. Will you make a U Do

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you see something?

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Speaker 10: No, I'm not sure. Just pull back up in front again.

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Huh right, okay, this is fine. I want to kill

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your engine.

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Speaker 4: You hear that. I'm not sure. I come on, you

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hear it now? Now I stopped. Come on, they're throwing

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vegetables at that front window.

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Speaker 7: I trying to draw our attention here. Now you cover

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the side. I'll try to force to you. Right, there's

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a news right right, I say it.

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Speaker 4: All right, you want to shake him down?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: All right, stand still, government, Joe. I'll see if there's

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any more besides these two right through tip jaw. We'd

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have had a tip. We'd gotten you a long time ago.

478
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That's it, just these two.

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Speaker 5: Somebody must tip jaw. You couldn't be this lucky.

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Speaker 4: Why not? You've had your share. The two men were

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taken into custody.

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Speaker 7: Inn were identified as Wilfrid Lawson and Thomas Greenfield.

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Speaker 4: A check with ON and I showed no previous record

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on either man.

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Speaker 7: After a short interrogation, Wilfrid Lawson admitted his part in

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all of the burglaries of the Wilson Brothers markets. He

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steadily refused to give us any information as to the

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other possible members of the burglary game. Thomas Greenfield was interrogated.

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He was the more timid of the two and claimed

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that this was the first job he'd been on with Lawson,

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that he did not know of any other members of

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the gang, that he'd only served as lookout on this

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particular burglary, that he was not deeply involved in. Further

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investigation of the two suspects, Armstrong and Rubel found that

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they had been seen in the company of still another man,

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was impossible to get any kind of lead on the

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remaining suspect.

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Speaker 10: We took the matter up with Captain Wisdom. It was

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our combined belief that we should allow Thomas Greenfield to

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be released on the grounds that we believed this story

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about his slight part in the crimes. He was placed

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under close twenty four hour surveillance. Thursday, December sixth, two

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days after we'd released Thomas Greenfield, we were calling the

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Captain Wisdom's office. Yes, we played it the right way,

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letting Thomas go. How do you mean, well, first, of all,

506
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we passed one up last October. You remember Bingham guide

507
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driving slow past to market in Nigrok. Yeah, well here's

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the one we watched and these two letters both postmarked. Hey,

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we picked him up on that mail stop on Lawson?

510
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Really from Thomas? Yeah, a couple of choice parts. Yeah,

511
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listen to this. Client says to tell you he's not

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sore anymore. Ever since that mix up him and the

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Wall and Benny decided this was the best way to

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play it. He says he'd want no part of what's yours.

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And then there's a lot more here. Says he'll get

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an attorney for Lawson, and he thinks he really put

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one over on us.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, all three of m murnered it all the way.

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Speaker 10: Well, how does Bingham figure in it? We had him

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under surveillance, didn't they you. We'll listen to this from

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this other letter they I heard it is. I've been

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talking with C. B Clide Bingham getting real clever now

523
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using initials. I've been talking with CB several times only

524
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on the phone. He's really not sore. He only laid

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out since that time he figured he might be high.

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Speaker 4: That's enough, isn't It's all there, dad, Okay, you got

527
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one to roll on? Yeah, go out and pick him up.

528
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This time, we'll keep him.

529
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Speaker 5: The story you have just.

530
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Speaker 4: Heard was true, only the names were changed to protect

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the innocent.

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Speaker 6: On March twenty, second trial was held in Superior Court,

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Department eighty eighth, City and County of Los Angeles, State

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of California.

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Speaker 5: In a moment the results of that trial, all.

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Speaker 6: Three suspects, Wilfrid George Lawson, Clyde Robert Bingham, and Thomas

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Lewell and Greenfield were filed on for burglary in the

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second degree.

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Speaker 4: Wilford G.

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Speaker 6: Lawson was filed on for twelve counts, Clyde R. Bingham

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for six counts, Thomas L. Greenfield for three counts. Sentences

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to run consecutively. They are now serving their time in

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the state penitentiary. In view of the fact that the

544
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authorities were unable to prove the defendants were armed at

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the time of the burglaries and the stores were not inhabited,

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they could only be filed on for burglary in the

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second degree. Second degree burglary is punishable by a term

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of not less than one nor more than fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, we wish to gratefully acknowledge the Michael Award,

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presented by the Academy of Radio and Television Arts and Sciences.

551
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The Academy voted Dragnet the finest program of its kinds

552
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with deep humility that Dragnet accepts this citation, the highest

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award bestowed by the radio and television industries.

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Speaker 5: You have just heard Dragnet. A series of authentic cases

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from official files.

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Speaker 6: Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police

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wh Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

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Speaker 12: Day two and for Counterspy next over most NBC stations,

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welcome back.

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Speaker 1: This one was an episode that when you get brought

561
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down to it was about the challenge of conducting an

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investigation and the fact that luck plays a role for

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both the policeman and the criminals. I should say a

564
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parent look, and this is a case where you have

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to admit that the criminals had come up with.

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Speaker 2: A pretty good method.

567
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Speaker 1: As you've got this massive chain of hundreds of stores,

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you can't possibly cover them all, and you really can't

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predict which one of these two or three hundred stores

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the criminals were going to strike at. And then of

571
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course you have a witness who can't identify anybody, and

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I sympathize with them, and I sympathize with her as

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I listened to her going through the books, It's like, Yeah,

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that's me all over. I'm horrible at remembering faces and

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what people look like. I'm not quite face blind, which

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is a real thing. But if I'm outside of a

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store and there are a couple guys in meat department uniforms,

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and then I think to tell the police about it later,

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I'm not going to be able to tell them much

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aside from maybe race facial hair. If I ever provided

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information that helped the police, it would be some random

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thing I noticed, or a couple numbers off a license plate.

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Speaker 2: But no, nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: So I understand her point, but again it leaves Friday

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and Ramarro in a difficult spot. And this is a

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case where you know, you can say different things. You

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00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,440
just got to go out there and work harder, or

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you know, you just need a brilliant plan. But that's

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not what happens here. Even though there are times in

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Dragnet where somebody comes up with a clever idea that

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changes things up and goes a little outside the box,

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but most of the time the police saw the case

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through the marriage of a plan that's worked before in

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similar cases to diligence and carrying it out. It's t

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that is and difficult, but sometimes it's the only thing

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that gets the job done. Or Ben was so tired

597
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of it he was hoping to get reassigned before the

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next episode. But thankfully that's where the break came. Listener

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comments and feedback and we go to Spotify. We're regarding

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the big speech a chameleon of Central Police Headquarters rights

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Joe and his mom must be a blast at parties. Well,

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I would say that it is possible to be very

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serious but to also be able to lighten up and

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have a good time. I would say in theory, I

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do think that when it comes to Joe Friday, there

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is an image that Friday acquired as kind of a

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stick in the mud.

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Speaker 2: Though I would say that in some ways it's a bit.

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Speaker 1: Similar to Batman, and that he becomes so dedicated to

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the job and so married to the job that it

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becomes his identity. That may be part of the reason

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why there are many people who prefer Adam twelve to

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the sixties dragging that Martin Milner as Pete malloy could

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be very intense and serious, but he had a lighter side.

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He liked to joke around even between calls. He actually

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had some relationships as the show went on in a

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really good sense of humor. No, I will say that

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if I theoretically ended up at a party with the

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old Friday and probably end up hanging out with him,

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because I'm also bad at parties.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, now it's.

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Speaker 1: Time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day, and

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I want to go ahead and thank Mark, Patreon supporter

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since March of twenty twenty, currently supporting the podcast at

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the Shawmus level of four dollars or more per month.

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Thanks so much for your support, Mark, and that will

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do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, please

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follow us using your favorite podcast software and be sure

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to rate and review the podcast wherever you download it from.

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We'll be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet.

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But join us back here tomorrow for yours truly. Johnny Dollar, Where.

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Speaker 2: And what's he doing here? Pullman?

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Speaker 4: What's there to investigate?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 9: You may be trying to say I killed off the

636
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herd myself to collect the insurance b said nothing of

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the sort, And what's to investigate? I told you I

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don't like this, and I'm telling you right to your face.

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Speaker 4: You shouldn't talk like that. It's the truth.

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Speaker 9: What do you think you're gonna do around here?

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Speaker 2: Dollar?

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Speaker 10: Bye?

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Speaker 4: Please? Well, that depends mister turmbull.

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Speaker 9: Does he have to say it's okay pullman before you

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can pay my claim?

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00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: He does.

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Speaker 9: Well, believe me if I'd known this was the kind

649
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:52,799
of aut that I was dealing with paying premiums to. Okay,

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00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,119
all right, poke around as much as you want, stay

651
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680
around as long as you like. We'll bed you down,

652
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:00,680
we'll feed you, we'll show you what kind of people

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00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,599
we are. Just don't get in my way. I've got

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a lot of work to do. And don't tell me

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I'm a crook.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's be reasonable about this.

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Speaker 2: Me, I'm being reasonable.

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Speaker 1: You're the one hope you'll be with us then in

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the meantime, send your comments to Box thirteen at Greatdetectives

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dot net, follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and

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Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This is your host, Adam Graham

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signing off