WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:22.160 Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Hey, 2 00:00:22.359 --> 00:00:24.000 how you doing. Come on in and have a seat. 3 00:00:24.039 --> 00:00:28.480 Let's talk about animals today, specifically dogs. You know, I 4 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.479 had an author on the program last year talking in 5 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:37.280 general about animals and people really liked it. And so 6 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:42.399 I keep my eyes open for topics that are supportive 7 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:46.600 of that theme. And I remember Destiny is all about 8 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:50.159 tools for transformation, and I have a really good one today, 9 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:55.479 an author who is a holistic herbalist, a canine herbalist, 10 00:00:55.479 --> 00:01:03.759 who recommends using herbs and quality foods for dog health. 11 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:07.599 And I think it's important to note that when we 12 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:09.840 have an animal, we have a dog in our lives, 13 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:12.719 and I've had a number of dogs, they're like children. 14 00:01:13.319 --> 00:01:15.760 You have to really be careful what you feed them, 15 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:20.239 how you work with them, how you exercise them, and 16 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:23.159 you have to be conscious of it. And so many people, 17 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:28.319 my friends, my family, consider kibble is the primary food 18 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:32.719 or wet food out of a can, without really considering 19 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:35.400 the dog's health. And as we're going to learn today, 20 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:40.920 it's really critical what we feed our animals and how 21 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:46.799 we are part of that animal's environment. And when I 22 00:01:46.799 --> 00:01:49.920 say environment, it's like when we're feeling bad. They pick 23 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:52.959 up on that. Dogs are really hyper sensitive. And I've 24 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:56.480 known this and discovered it over the years. If you're depressed, 25 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.719 if you're feeling sad, they understand that. They pick it up, 26 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:06.359 they can feel it. And we're gonna hear about how 27 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:12.120 to go about working with your dogs or dog and 28 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:17.520 the responsibility of being a parent or a dog owner. 29 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:21.919 And you know, I figured this out after having a 30 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:26.080 couple of dogs. You know, you think they can do 31 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.360 their own thing, but they're very reliant. They're completely reliant 32 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:35.319 on their human parents to help them live a healthy life. 33 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:41.400 And it's funny because we're going to hear this today 34 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:48.319 that the veterinarians of the world, although they're honorable, they 35 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:53.159 still follow a similar path that our allopathic doctors follow, 36 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.680 which is great amounts of drugs, great amounts of steroids, 37 00:02:57.719 --> 00:03:03.280 great amounts of unnecessary femotherapy when an animal isn't well. 38 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:06.919 And I see this with my brother. I haven't had 39 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:09.719 a dog in a couple of years, but my brother 40 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:13.719 and his wife got a terrier. And terriers require a 41 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.400 great deal of energy because they're hyper. They get to 42 00:03:17.439 --> 00:03:18.800 get they want to get out, they want to run 43 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:21.479 they want to see what's going on. They very very 44 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:26.759 interested in what's going on when they're walking and when 45 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:30.479 they're running and when they're out. And if you don't 46 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:33.199 have a lot of energy, and I'm not saying that 47 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:34.840 my brother doesn't have a lot of energy, but they're 48 00:03:34.960 --> 00:03:39.199 they're demanding. It's almost like you need to really be 49 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:44.520 aware of the dog breed that you are acquiring if 50 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:47.759 you want to be a dog owner. And I think 51 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:54.759 they may have become challenged with the need for more walking, 52 00:03:55.000 --> 00:04:01.240 more outside time, and a diet that supports their their personalities. 53 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:04.159 So it's interesting to say this though, and you can 54 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:08.120 see this and dog owners, dogs are a reflection of 55 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:13.479 our own personality and lifestyles as well. So if we're 56 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:17.560 into exercise and eating well, I think we were responsible 57 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:21.120 for the dog having the same kind of environment and 58 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:25.600 the same kind of world good food, good exercise, and 59 00:04:25.680 --> 00:04:31.000 responsible parenting. I call it parenting, but it's really responsible ownership. 60 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:33.480 So I think you've got to like this today. The 61 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:40.079 book is The Herbal Dog Holistic Canine Herbalism Applications and Practices, 62 00:04:40.839 --> 00:04:44.800 and my guest is Rita Hogan. She has been working 63 00:04:44.839 --> 00:04:48.639 with dogs for over twenty years and the book just 64 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:51.800 came out, just came out a few weeks ago, and 65 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:54.240 it's really and I had to say this when I 66 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.879 was reading it. It's a great reference. So it's not 67 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.199 like you have to really know all about herbs, but 68 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:05.240 you know, it's a good primmer for using herbs as 69 00:05:05.279 --> 00:05:11.680 a supplement, supplementing your dog's diet with herbs. Wow, it's amazing. 70 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:16.199 So I hope you enjoy the program. 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It's brand new. 104 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:10.120 It's called The Herbal Dog Holistic Canine Herbalism Applications and Practices. 105 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.319 And I got to tell you, not only was I 106 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:15.560 pleasantly surprised that the way it was designed, it's a 107 00:08:15.560 --> 00:08:21.120 true herb book for animals, specifically dogs. And I wish 108 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:23.480 I'd known about it when I had dogs years ago 109 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:29.399 because the solutions, the remedies are fabulous. And my guest 110 00:08:29.399 --> 00:08:32.480 today has been working in the field for many, many years. 111 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:36.879 My guest is Rita Hogan, and she is a clinical 112 00:08:37.159 --> 00:08:40.039 canine herbalist. Can you believe it, We're gonna learn a 113 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.840 little bit about that today. She hasn't just been doing 114 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:44.559 this for a few years, She's been doing this for 115 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:49.200 over twenty years. And this book is fantastic. So Rita, 116 00:08:49.279 --> 00:08:51.759 welcome to Destiny. Great to have you on the program. 117 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:54.840 Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. 118 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.240 All right, tell us about this book. Why did you 119 00:08:57.279 --> 00:08:59.440 write this book? I mean, I want to just say this. 120 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:01.559 In the beginning of the book, you have this wonderful 121 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.600 kind of opening where you were talking about living on 122 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:08.519 the growing up on a farm, having animals, seeing how 123 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:12.559 they are nurtured and age and so forth and so on. 124 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:17.279 That's a big part of this history of yours, isn't it. Yes? 125 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:22.240 For sure, it really did imprint on me. And you know, 126 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.679 as I talk about in the book, my dog Susie 127 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:28.360 lived until she was at least twenty four, if not 128 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.960 twenty seven. But my dad passed away, so we can't 129 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:35.840 really ask him. He's the man that would know. But 130 00:09:36.600 --> 00:09:40.120 my brothers and sisters, you know, they're quite older than me, 131 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.200 and they know that at least it was twenty four, 132 00:09:44.679 --> 00:09:47.200 So she was there way before I was born and 133 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:53.679 after I went to college. So it was interesting, you know, 134 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:57.639 looking at how she lived her life and how our 135 00:09:57.679 --> 00:10:00.679 dogs are living their lives right now to night and day. 136 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:05.120 Do you suspect that your dad was using herbs, incorporating 137 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:11.440 herbs and holistic remedies into the animal's daily lives on 138 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:12.279 the farm. 139 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:17.360 So Susie didn't. I never saw him usually use herbs 140 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:20.320 with the dogs. He used him with the horses and 141 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:24.320 pigs and cows. But Susie, her like, her diet was 142 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:28.799 pretty simple. She had raw milk from our cow Motley. 143 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:35.200 She ate meat scraps. She ate whole foods, she ate 144 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.639 off the table. I mean we ate, like we didn't 145 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:40.639 eat processed foods for the most part. There wasn't a 146 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:45.960 lot of processed foods in the seventies. And she, you know, 147 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.360 whenever I would I rode my horse most days, and 148 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:55.360 she would be behind us walking nibbling, eating plants, eating, 149 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:58.960 you know, eating little creatures that made me cry, and 150 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.519 you know, just do and stuff that dogs do. But 151 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:04.159 she also like got to choose if she wanted to 152 00:11:04.200 --> 00:11:07.919 sleep outside or not. She got tons of fresh air, 153 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:10.360 which you know, fresh air is a huge thing for 154 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:14.919 dogs right now because the dogs spend the majority of 155 00:11:14.960 --> 00:11:16.840 their lives inside. 156 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:26.679 Yeah, exactly. Okay, what is a holistic herbalist. 157 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:28.799 Who is different than like an allopathic herbalist herbalist? The 158 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:33.360 easiest way to explain it is, you know, well, I 159 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:37.039 don't know, seven to ten years ago, you would see 160 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.919 all of those lists five things that for arthritis, ten 161 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:46.519 herbs for arthritis, right, yeah, and people would literally like 162 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.919 take six herbs on that list. But and people always say, 163 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.240 you know, rita, what's the best what's the best herb 164 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:55.919 for my dog? I can't answer that without asking you 165 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:59.480 a slew of questions. You know, dogs are individuals, and 166 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:03.200 a lot of times when people don't feel that herbs 167 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:07.600 work out, it's because they're not appropriate for your individual dog. 168 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.320 And that is the biggest thing. Because plants have language, 169 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.399 you know, they speak on a language of opposites. So 170 00:12:14.519 --> 00:12:16.799 if you're warm or your dog is warm, you're going 171 00:12:16.840 --> 00:12:21.240 to give poling herbs. You know, turmeric, right, Turmeric is 172 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.399 everyone knows what turmeric is. It's an excellent anti inflammatory, 173 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:30.000 but it's not an excellent, excellent anti inflammatory for a 174 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:34.600 very warm person or a very warm dog. It causes 175 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:38.200 more heat, and that's when you get into trouble. So 176 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:43.559 when you learn plant language, you can use herbs so 177 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:46.080 much more effectively, and that's kind of the basis of 178 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:47.200 holistic herbalism. 179 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:52.000 I was amazed, and this makes perfect sense to me 180 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:56.559 that when you go to your typical vet, they are 181 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:06.840 using a allopathic modality, which is using drugs, using hormon 182 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:14.519 shots and surgery and pretty invasive treatments. Is it your 183 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:18.000 hope or can you tell us our herbs being more 184 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:22.320 incorporated into veterinarian practices today or is it more that 185 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:27.720 the individual parent of a dog, cat animal is the 186 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:29.679 one who is speaking up and saying I'd like to 187 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:30.039 try this. 188 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:36.440 I think it depends, so I think people people are frustrated. 189 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:41.919 You know, veterinary allopathic veterinary care is really good at 190 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:46.679 saving lives, yeah right, And it's excellent at like end 191 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:53.240 of life care to create more more comfort, excellent in 192 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.559 emergency situations like if your dog gets hit by a car. 193 00:13:57.000 --> 00:14:02.279 But I don't think the doctors of today are skilled 194 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:09.799 in the art of prevention and longevity as far as 195 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:15.200 having a dog thrive. Looking at nutrition, very little nutrition, 196 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.320 if any training in vet school. And you know thatts 197 00:14:20.320 --> 00:14:24.200 are busy, right, They're busy, and you really have to 198 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.200 take time out of your practice to learn something new. 199 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:32.480 A lot of vets have started learning acupuncture, which is great. 200 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:36.799 I'm very happy for that. And when you learn acupuncture, 201 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:40.320 you start to learn kind of how the body is connected. 202 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.279 And my book is all about how everything in the 203 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.480 body is connected. And when you understand the dog as 204 00:14:46.519 --> 00:14:53.279 an ecosystem, you get that the treatments that you're getting 205 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:57.519 at the VET are just to quell symptoms. They're not 206 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:01.879 to solve the problem in the first place. And I 207 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:06.559 truly believe in integrative care. I would I like, you know, 208 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:10.480 functional kind of functional medicine on the on the human side, 209 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:15.120 you know, functional medicine for dogs, including plants. And I'm 210 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:18.039 I'm on a book tour right now and I've had 211 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:26.600 close to thirty vets at my my events and that's 212 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.559 been that's been really promising. I really like that. And 213 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:32.480 I'm you know, I'm I have a lot of holistic 214 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:33.240 fat colleagues. 215 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.759 I like that. You know, it's funny you mentioned functional 216 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:39.840 medicine and this is something that's recently come on board 217 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:44.000 with human medicine, is functional medicine, which is more integrative 218 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:51.080 in its capacity to heal than just allopathy. One of 219 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:53.840 the things that I find fascinating about your book. And 220 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.679 by the way, those of you listening, Rita has done 221 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:59.159 a great job. And this is a reference book. So 222 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:03.360 would you say that it's made for everyone from the 223 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:07.279 beginner to the advanced parent. And I want to just 224 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:12.679 say this parent being observer observers of their animals in 225 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:17.039 terms of how they reacted to foods and things like that. 226 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.559 The book is definitely for everyone. It's for vets. Vet 227 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:27.960 TeX's uh, holistic practitioners. Functional medicine doctors, and then the 228 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:34.559 everyday average pet parent in that the things that it 229 00:16:34.679 --> 00:16:42.159 covers apply to all including our kidtie friends. You know, 230 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:45.120 it is a reference book, but it's also a teaching book. 231 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.080 Like the first part of the book, it's it's it's 232 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.960 in two parts. The first part teaches you, you know, what 233 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.559 is holistic herbalism, what a you know, what is my 234 00:16:56.679 --> 00:16:59.480 opinion on evidence based medicine. You know, how to look 235 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.600 at evidence space medicine so that you're not looking at 236 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:08.720 a biased uh study. And how herbs are used in studies. Uh, 237 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:12.279 it's not the herbs that you know, standardized herbs are 238 00:17:12.519 --> 00:17:14.319 has to be have to be used in studies, and 239 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.640 those are they're they're a little different than than you know, 240 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:21.720 your regular herb that you would gather outside. 241 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:24.640 But in the in. 242 00:17:24.559 --> 00:17:26.759 The book itself, I deal a little a little with 243 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:31.519 feeding diet is very important, especially for our indoor dogs. 244 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:36.799 And then and then I move right into teaching you 245 00:17:36.799 --> 00:17:39.319 you know, how to look at your dog as an 246 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.240 ecosystem and an individual and going through the you know, 247 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.599 the nervous system, the lymphatic system, the liver, the lungs, 248 00:17:45.599 --> 00:17:49.599 the heart, and that that's that chapter is called everything's connected, 249 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:52.960 and that's really gonna it's very easy to read, and 250 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:57.839 it's gonna teach you to look at your dog differently. 251 00:17:58.519 --> 00:18:00.880 And when you start observing your and looking at your 252 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.640 dog differently, things just really open up and you understand 253 00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:09.119 like that you can't do this without that right, and 254 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:13.119 that herbs aren't really that this for that switch like 255 00:18:13.200 --> 00:18:18.599 a lot of you know, allopathy looks at when you 256 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.839 look at herbs like well, I need something to replace this, right, right. 257 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:26.039 Herbs go into the body and they fix things, They 258 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.519 balance things. The body is always trying to get back 259 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.359 to being in balance. And it's tenacious, right. We beat 260 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:38.680 the crap out of our bodies and our dog's bodies. 261 00:18:38.720 --> 00:18:43.559 And many of the standard of care pharmaceuticals in the 262 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:50.519 veterinary industry affect the body for years. One of them 263 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:54.440 is I talk about in my book is metronatazol, which 264 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:58.880 is flagile and it's given in human medicine and also 265 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:02.599 veterinary medicine, but it's it's the standard of care for diarrhea. Right, 266 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.519 So if you bring your dog in for diarrhea, you're 267 00:19:05.559 --> 00:19:10.279 gonna get flagile. And one of the things that flagile 268 00:19:10.359 --> 00:19:15.680 does is it turns on it genetically alters the gut, right, 269 00:19:16.160 --> 00:19:21.480 and it turns on inflammation markers. You know, does it 270 00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:25.119 create a polymorphism, I'm not sure, but it turns on 271 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.759 inflammation in the gut. And almost every client that I've 272 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:34.559 ever helped with herbs that has like ibd IBS severe 273 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.799 gut issues. Dogs can only eat two proteins. Things like that, 274 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:44.680 I find the flagile in their history. And we kind 275 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:49.400 of like, antibiotics have become so commonplace that we kind 276 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:52.279 of just well, they had antibiotics, but that was six 277 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:55.839 months ago, or that was two years ago. But until 278 00:19:55.880 --> 00:20:01.559 we do something to alter the damage that that antibiotic 279 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:05.559 has done, you're gonna see, You're gonna see symptoms. And 280 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:11.480 my book is written on the premise of organ health 281 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:19.359 because when you look at every single thing besides a 282 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:23.839 genetic problem that you're born with, right, and even that 283 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:28.880 can be related to the mother's issues, right, or the 284 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:32.559 father's issues. But every single thing that you can think 285 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:38.119 about your health and your dog's health is can be 286 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:44.200 completely brought down to a single thing, and that's organ health. 287 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:48.119 You know, when our organs are working correctly, and organs 288 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:51.359 being the gas to intestinal track, the lymphatic system delivered 289 00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:55.720 the kidneys, the lungs, the heart, the spleen. When our 290 00:20:56.079 --> 00:21:02.559 organs are working correctly, uh, we don't have ill health. 291 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:06.920 Those symptoms aren't there. And so when you learn how 292 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:13.480 to heal and support those organs in your dog, a 293 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:16.200 lot of the symptoms that you're that's driving you and 294 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.440 your dog crazy they disappear. 295 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:24.160 Would you say that you're suggesting that the user of 296 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:28.960 your book be educated enough to As an example, steroids 297 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:33.039 are used a lot with dogs for all kinds of conditions. 298 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:38.559 So if the doctor says we're gonna recommend steroids, and 299 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:43.279 one of your readers who's been up to data on this, says, well, 300 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.319 can I try something else? Is that what you would 301 00:21:46.319 --> 00:21:52.519 call a complimentary alternative to a steroid or to a 302 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.440 powerful drug? Is that? Is that what you're hoping to do? 303 00:21:56.559 --> 00:21:59.000 Because I think what I'm getting from what you're telling 304 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.640 us is this is like human beings, We get these 305 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:07.599 powerful drugs that throw us way off equilibrium, and then 306 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:12.480 we have to slowly come back with good foods, with exercise, 307 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:14.920 with herbs, with vitamins and so forth. 308 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:19.039 Yeah, I definitely would say that it would be complementary. 309 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.279 You know, you definitely want to do the steroids if 310 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:23.960 it's a life threatening illness, you know, like right of course, 311 00:22:24.240 --> 00:22:27.160 like pneumonia or something like that, or you your dog 312 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.000 is sucking air and they can't breathe, you know, you 313 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:32.160 definitely And I talk about steroids in the book, like 314 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:34.680 you know, yes, you definitely want to take the steroids. 315 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:39.359 But if it's steroids for you know, something simple or 316 00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:45.079 you know, my biggest issue is antibiotics. You know, antibiotics 317 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:50.319 for just you know, bacteria between the paws, not life threatening, 318 00:22:51.160 --> 00:22:54.319 you know, for me, life threatened. Antibiotics should only be 319 00:22:54.400 --> 00:22:57.960 used when your dog's life is threatened because you know, 320 00:22:58.079 --> 00:23:00.279 eighty percent of your immune system is in your and 321 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:04.039 including your dog, and dogs have very short gastrointestinal tracks. 322 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:09.559 And when you take out the immune system, it dominoes 323 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.240 to everything, like everything, and then your dog is more 324 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:18.599 susceptible to fleas, they're more susceptible to tick born disease, 325 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:24.920 They're more susceptible you know, to pathogenic overgrowth, yeast infections 326 00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:27.720 and these are ear infections. These are all things that 327 00:23:29.400 --> 00:23:36.200 really gravely affect quality of life for US guardian owners, 328 00:23:36.359 --> 00:23:38.359 right and our dogs. 329 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:40.960 So in the book. 330 00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:44.880 I have a lot of lists in the Everything's Connected chapters, 331 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.960 like how do you tell if your dog's kidneys are 332 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:52.680 weak because or your dog's liver needs help, or the 333 00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:56.920 lymphatic system is stagnant. I'll tell you right now, almost 334 00:23:57.000 --> 00:24:00.680 every single dog out there, besides a working dog or 335 00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:03.599 like a dog doing agility on a weekly basis, is 336 00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:09.279 their lymphatics are stagnant and their liver needs support because 337 00:24:09.319 --> 00:24:12.759 of the amount of exercise. So the average American dog 338 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:19.119 gets less than fifteen minutes of exercise a day. You know, 339 00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:23.240 people are busy. They come home from work and they 340 00:24:23.680 --> 00:24:26.519 walk their dog around the block, or they just let 341 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:29.319 their dog out to go potty, leave them outside for 342 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:31.480 a minute, and then they come back in, eat their dinner, 343 00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.480 chill out, let them out again, go to bed. Right. 344 00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:40.160 So we all need age appropriate exercise to move our 345 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:43.200 lymphatic system. And a lot of people don't you know. 346 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:46.920 At my events, I ask you know, I usually ask 347 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.680 the question, does anyone know what the lymphatic system is? 348 00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:54.240 And usually the answer is no, or the answer is yes, 349 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:57.480 but they don't know what it does. Yeah, and one 350 00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.720 and two dogs will dive of cancer. And that's one 351 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:01.599 of the is that my next book is on cancer, 352 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.799 and this book is like a you know, if you 353 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.920 can improve organ health, cancers will go down. 354 00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:08.799 Yeah, And. 355 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.400 So when you really let that sink in, right, one 356 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:19.160 in two dogs will die of cancer. In two thousand 357 00:25:19.200 --> 00:25:24.960 and three, dogs didn't have cancer, right, they hardly ever 358 00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:28.319 had cancer. And now it's one and two dogs. So 359 00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:34.000 twenty twenty two years later, dogs one and two will 360 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.480 die And you think, okay, so we spend more money 361 00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.079 on veterinary care in the United States than almost any 362 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:46.480 other country. Something's not working, you know what I mean? Like, 363 00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:50.440 something isn't working. And I think it's definitely a combination 364 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:57.200 of food over vaccination and the misuse of antibiotics and stress. 365 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:00.599 You know, our stress is their stress, and we are 366 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.119 as humans, we are stressed out mess right now. 367 00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:08.279 So are you saying that this cancer increases immune issue 368 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.559 where they're being over medicated and the body is not 369 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.720 being able to function in this normal state. Yes? 370 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:21.480 Absolutely, Wow. So when you destroy the microbiome, things start 371 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.599 coming out of the woodwork, and you know, it usually 372 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:27.359 takes about three months, so you kind of forget about 373 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:33.119 those antibiotics, right, And also a lot of people because 374 00:26:34.079 --> 00:26:37.960 you know people don't a lot of people don't eat 375 00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:41.400 real food anymore. They also don't feed their dog real food. 376 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:46.279 One thing about my dogs growing up and my dogs 377 00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:49.680 in life, give or take a few years of stupidity 378 00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:57.319 or should I say ignorance, they eat real food. And 379 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:01.960 dogs are being labeled as geriatric between eight and nine 380 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:05.599 right now, and it should be between seventeen and eighteen 381 00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:08.000 in my opinion, Like, we need to get back there. 382 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.400 It may take us another twenty years, right or thirty 383 00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:14.920 because it may take us another ten years to wake up, 384 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.400 but we can get back there. We can turn it around. 385 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:21.240 If it can happen, we can turn it around. And 386 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:27.839 I think people need to understand that. You know, kibble 387 00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.519 is a convenience and even my you know, I am 388 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.119 not a kibble shamer by no means, but like my 389 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.400 book deals with you know, if you're feeding kibble, here's 390 00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.960 to how to improve the bowl. We need to improve 391 00:27:38.000 --> 00:27:42.400 the bowl. We need to Kibble has no enzymes, right, 392 00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:46.240 so a lot of people feed kibble diets with no enzymes, 393 00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:48.319 and we need to If you're feeding kibble, you need 394 00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:51.519 to feed enzymes. And the interesting thing is when you 395 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.400 look at liver function, right, everyone should be looking at 396 00:27:56.440 --> 00:27:59.359 liver function. And when you look at liver function, it 397 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.799 takes it takes close to ten to fourteen hours depending 398 00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:09.359 on the kibble to digest kibble for a dog and 399 00:28:09.400 --> 00:28:15.079 their gastro intestinal track again is short. So if you 400 00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:20.079 feed twice a day, that's all your dogs liver is 401 00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:23.799