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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It

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is Monday, November seventeen. It is fifty two degrees in

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Cloudy and Tacoma, Washington. Thank you for coming back. It's

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good to see you. Dan.

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Speaker 2: Hi, you're back. I'm back. Yeah, yeah, it was gone

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the last time.

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Speaker 1: Chris, Chris Plant nobly set in to fill your steed.

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Speaker 2: If I'm going, you can only bring people from Kansas City.

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That's the rule. So thank you for Chris.

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Speaker 1: Yes, how was a contract? He's good? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good Manue.

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Speaker 1: I like that. But people liked him. Sure.

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Speaker 2: I saw him at your wedding, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I love the dude. Mary. You were here,

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I was here.

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Speaker 3: Me and Chris get along so well, like peas and carrots.

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I didn't even think about it.

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Speaker 4: I was happy. It was bliss. We enjoyed ourselves.

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Speaker 3: But we're back, and it's really nice to have the

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three of us together again.

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Speaker 1: Discovered that none of the games I like this year

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are cool, and all the games that are truly cool

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I've never heard of on Steam because they have like

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twelve reviews. That's what I learned from Plant.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, okay, give me give me three games.

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Speaker 1: The Plant loved couldn't have even couldn't tell you half

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a way called oh no no, I got one q

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up Oh.

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Speaker 2: Jan was playing that today. I think Jan's into that.

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I don't really know what it is, but there's a

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certain thing that's a jam game. Is there gambling in it?

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Speaker 1: It's a it's supposedly the only fair. It's about an

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esport esport players, I believe, and the sport is just

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coin tosses. So it's like, Okay, that's a jam fair.

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That's a jam game. Yeah, I think its.

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Speaker 4: Into something that's more than that.

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Speaker 3: I think he likes Baby Steps, which was.

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Speaker 1: An interesting like baby Steps.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting difference between us. But I think he

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was like, I live to suffer and love the challenge

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and got really into the consistency of it.

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Speaker 1: No Plant was saying, Plant is playing it the opposite

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of how Grub was playing it. Plant was playing it

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like anytime they gave him a shortcut, He's like, yeah,

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I'll use it. Like he was saying, how that game

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is just about how we don't accept help when it's

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thrown at our face, often to make things more challenging

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for us. It's it's Chris Plant he's always got you know,

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he's got he's got interesting, insightful takes on stuff. That

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was what he was saying.

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Speaker 2: I like it when things are easier. Yeah yeah, I

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like shortcuts and spic Yeah yeah, Like being a coward

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is underrated, like.

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Speaker 1: Like right, like you just safer if you're a coward.

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Speaker 2: Right like after Night eleven, my grandma said she would, like,

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you know, send me to Canada if they tried to

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draft me. And it was like that sounds fucking great.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're a draft dog.

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Speaker 2: I would have been I would have been a draft dodger.

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Speaker 3: This only adds to my assumption that you would make

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such a spectacular politician, not because you know what you're doing,

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but because you ride the wave of charisma and you know,

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just ego and maybe just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything about that, so it's not my problem.

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Speaker 2: I would do it in like a nice way now,

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like a you know, malevolent way. Yeah yeah, like I'd

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kind of.

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Speaker 3: Like ignorance surfer. You know, you're just like I didn't

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know about that travesty.

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Speaker 2: I'm just here to have fun.

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Speaker 1: The video game industry.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 1: I said? You're the eb Farnum of the games industry.

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Speaker 2: Oh, never mind, I take back the coward thing. I'm

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a tough, brave man.

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Speaker 3: You don't know that I do.

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Speaker 1: Just cowards underrated.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't talking about myself. I just think if cowards

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want to do that, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I don't know, Dan, Are you secretly being really

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brave and tough at night when we're not around, Well

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we're never around, but you get what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm just going to patrol in the streets,

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you know, just making sure everyone's you know, in line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, let me get you.

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Speaker 3: Like a scenario like you're in a mall and somebody

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in the mall is brandishing.

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Speaker 4: A knife and they're being threatening. Do you approach?

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Speaker 2: Why do you rat call the cops?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a coward?

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Speaker 2: How about this? So Mike, let me here's the genetics effect.

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Speaker 3: What would you do, Mary, I would I would pull

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his pants down, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's okay. That's a better option than trying to,

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like knife.

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Speaker 3: Because instinctively he's gonna try and pull him back up.

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Speaker 1: And that's when you need him in the face.

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Speaker 3: That's when you chop them. Yeah, you do something?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Eyes? Ears, foot, face. I don't know, Dan,

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what was the scenario you were, well, eyeballs.

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Speaker 2: I've never been in a fight. My dad has not either,

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but he said there was one time he was like

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going to the bar decade.

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Speaker 1: It's a crazy eighties the record.

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Speaker 2: What that I've never been a fight on both.

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Speaker 1: Of your accounts that your dad hasn't either, it's crazy

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to me some official verbal Sorry, let me clarify. I'm

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surprised you're has your Wait, he's never been in a fight.

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Has he ever been punched?

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Speaker 2: Not to my knowledge? No, okay, no, okay. I almost

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like one of the last times I went home for

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Christmas and we were drunk and he tried to light

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my beard on fire and I almost punched him in

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the face. So I probably almost come the closest to

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punching him in the face. But he was at a

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bar once in like the eighties or nineties, and he

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overheard some like biker guys like, hey, let's fuck this

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place up, let's cause some trouble. My dad got really scared,

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and so he grabbed a pool ball and he dove

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under the pool table and just brandished the pool ball.

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So that was the closest he's been to be in

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a fight.

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Speaker 1: As well as he's been to a fight, is hiding

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under the pool table.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, my grandpa, his dad was a combat medic

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in Korea and had to pull the dead bodies off

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the field and he got a bronze star for valor

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in combat.

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Speaker 1: So prentitively, Yeah, that's not far right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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not far from the tree at all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Mary, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to go back to the knife thing. You pull

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his pants down, But what if he's coming at you,

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you never printing at you holding a knife saying I'm

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about to stab you calmly, so you know he means business.

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They say it like normal tone. They've been playing this.

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Speaker 3: I am a dirty fighter, meaning I don't play by

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the rules and I don't know anyone shit. The winner

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is the winner, period, And so like, is there sand.

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Speaker 4: That I can throw?

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Speaker 1: Is there?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Can I.

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Speaker 1: Them into move.

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Speaker 4: Something in front of us?

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Speaker 3: My goal isn't to like, yeah, do this equally, it's

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to just ruin him with objects. So I would be

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looking for something that I could throw at him from

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a distance while like maintaining space. I would love to

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tell you that I would like lurch forward and go

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after him. But when somebody has a knife, I have

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to create distance and probably hurl shit at them until

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they're distracted, and then ideally once they're distracted, pantsome and

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then and then they are super distracted, and that's when

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you make your move. And that would either be like

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an elbow or probably some kind of growing or eyeball situation.

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Growing and eyeballs are really just like the great equalizer.

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Speaker 1: You take out.

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Speaker 2: Those are the two I would go to. But I

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was in a fight. I think he wants to.

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Speaker 4: Fight without their ball.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to know, oh the throat thing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we.

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Speaker 3: Are assuming that the knife brander is the boy, which

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I find really a fun form of misogyny.

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Speaker 1: You I thought IM a doctor. It's him before we

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have a part.

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Speaker 3: Of the problem.

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Speaker 4: I do assume mostly.

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Speaker 2: The ernest question here. I am not a doctor or

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a woman, so I don't know the answer to.

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Speaker 1: We know this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you were running I was going

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to get to the vagina. If you were running at

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someone brandishing a knife and someone kicked you directly in

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the vagina, yeah, what would that would that be? Like

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kicking you in the thigh? Or is there more going

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on there.

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Speaker 4: Is it the knife brander or somebody else?

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Speaker 1: There's a third I think is doesn't matter what he's asking,

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does it get what? Does it hurt to get kicked?

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Let's right?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so.

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Speaker 3: A cooter booter is still pretty intense and does not

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feel good. I don't think that it will result in

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you puking, so.

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Speaker 2: It's not debilitating in the way nuts are.

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Speaker 4: I think it would be.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine it's probably like getting kicked in your

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knee where you'd be like.

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Speaker 2: Oh, okay, that's nothing.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't it would feel bad.

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Speaker 3: But like the balls, I think is like a removal

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of like you're conscious, like you have to like sit down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, balls will just stop you and you're it

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is a flashing boss weak point in a Resident Evil game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been punched in the boob before and it hurts.

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Speaker 2: Now would that would that be different than because guys

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have nipples?

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Speaker 1: So is there a difference there?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because there's like there's there's like a whole bunch

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of different stuff before not only we have boobs and

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the boobs are tender.

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Speaker 2: There there's not like extra organs in there that are

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sensitive that we don't have a we.

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Speaker 4: Have a second heart.

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Speaker 3: No, but they're like because it just more flesh sensitive tissue.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, all right, so you have little testicles

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inside your boobs or anything.

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Speaker 1: No, but I feel like boobs would be more like

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the pain would be commensurate would getting kicked on your

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butt cheek or is it now? It's probably more sensitive,

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isn't it.

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Speaker 2: But it's not that bad to get kicked in.

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Speaker 3: They're like probably the best place to get kicked in.

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You got all that cushion for the pushing. I don't

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even notice it. If I were to get punched anywhere

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on my body, I would probably say ass, And then

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if I was like my least favorite place, it would

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probably be my face. But boobs would be up there.

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Speaker 2: That's miserable, I guess I would say like thigh ass

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and like shoulder or like you know, kind of like bicep.

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Like those are all punches that are that's gonna be fine.

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You're gonna get a's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I think you weld on Dan

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a couple of summers ago on his arm, did I

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they're in the pack?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did punch you. I was like when Dan

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was like, I've never been in a fight. I was like, man,

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what was the last time I had a fight. It

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was probably like two tuesdays ago. Oh, always scrapping with somebody.

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Speaker 2: Mary. I wonder you against my sister. I wonder how

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that would go.

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Speaker 3: Your sister seems pretty vicious. I probably would. I probably

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would brandish a cheat, meaning like pocket sand, you know,

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some kind of you know, piece of wood.

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was a battle of myths, I think she would beat me.

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like to the death, then I would find a way

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like on the arm or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Question, she's stronger than me.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she's nuts because I got punched by like high

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school bullies all the time in the arm and gym class,

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and like these are like that's like seventeen year old boys.

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me in high school.

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Speaker 3: I always liked to have a like my best friend

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in high school was always like just really strong and

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pretty impressive, and I felt really cool walking next to

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her because people didn't want to fight her. She fucked

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them up. So I I think I take your question,

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and I think I would. I would find a way

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to befriend your sister and then we would and then

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we would beat up men together. I think that would probably.

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Speaker 2: Be But she does love you, she listens to the

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podcast and she's a big fan.

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Speaker 4: So I think I would not punch you in the boob.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got a tag team here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my if someone's running at me with

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a knife mm hm in them all, yeah, I like

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I would start. I would definitely, like if I had

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no choice, but I would, I would start looking for

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weapons for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like.

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Speaker 4: Such a hit reaction.

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Speaker 3: What's around you that you could utilize, especially if they're

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running you, Like Dan, if you're.

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Speaker 1: Just all is perfect because you got everything, Like if.

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Speaker 3: You're just gonna ostriche, Dan, like you're making yourself very susceptible.

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Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't ostrich because that ostriches leave their whole

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everything out for the whole world to see. I would be.

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Speaker 3: But you're so embarrassing that sometimes people like ignore you,

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like you're no longer a threat, so people just like,

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don't they just like leave you be.

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Speaker 2: A tactic of mine, like in like a bar or

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something of somebody who's gonna kick my ass or something.

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I just look, you got nothing to prove here, like

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you know, you know you can kick my Ass's fine.

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Speaker 3: And everyone's embarrassed, like, go, let's go back to your dad.

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You think that those burly bar guys who were like,

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let's fucking ruin this place. Do you think they're gonna

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like grab the ankles of a sniveling little guy peeing

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his pants under a bar. I don't think so. I

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think they just were like, that's sad, and then they

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went and beat up some other guy. Like I just

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think there's an element of it of like could you

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beat me, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 4: After this guy.

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Speaker 3: But if you're sad and I think they just leave

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you alone, right.

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Speaker 2: It's I think for a lot of yeah, bar type

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guys who want to get in fights, like you know,

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uh forever, you know, like per wrestlers when they go

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to bars after the shows and stuff back in the

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eighties and nineties and stuff, you would get drunken bar guys.

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They're like, oh, these wrestlers think they're tough. These fake wrestlers.

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Let's go start ship. Yeah yeah, And it's like, yeah,

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we don't do that to you know a record. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the macho thing of like trying to prove

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your more alpha than the other person. It's like, what's

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the was it the Coen Brothers Western series on Netflix?

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Speaker 2: It was like the cumber Batch Tales of the cumber

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Batches whatever.

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Speaker 1: Shrubs, Yeah, the patch, Yeah, we got there. It's like, oh,

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the fastest gun in the West is always fighting because

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everybody wants to like prove they can beat him and stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like they're always if you're the slowest

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gun in the West, you're just living.

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Speaker 3: The lowest gun in the West is such a tactic.

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Speaker 1: That'd be That would be you Dan Cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm I hate I like it, but he's living.

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Speaker 1: Duel to be like, give me a second because time out,

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time time out.

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Speaker 3: Wait, cowboy boots and then you dive under the table.

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Speaker 2: You call the cops.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please.

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Speaker 2: Second reference.

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Speaker 1: I've I got Mattsallar sites his book about it, the

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Deadwood Bible or something. We're gonna I want to rewatch

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soon and read that along with it. The movie that

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show is still really good. The movie was good to

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season four for all intense purposes. Speaking of shows, I

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a couple of things. I started the Chair Company. It's

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Great'm not gonna spoil anything. I'm gonna talk about the show.

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Speaker 2: I like, it's a hard one to spoil.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's for sure, and it's it's it's

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one im. I didn't watched last night. I didn't watch

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the Are you marry?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Do you okay? If I were just there was no no, no no.

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Speaker 1: If there was one part you know what I'm talking about, say.

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Speaker 3: What your question again?

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Speaker 2: Mike was protesting if I were to say, there's this

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one part in the last episode that just made me cackle.

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Speaker 3: You fucking know that I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: And we don't even need.

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Speaker 3: Watlous show.

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Speaker 1: It's really fun. Yeah it's Mike.

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Speaker 3: Do us a favor and take a screenshot of the

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part that you think that Dan and I are referencing

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right now.

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Speaker 2: And post it to us on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Posted to us, just no content, no context.

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Speaker 3: Just on the social media.

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Speaker 1: Something tells me it's probably not appropriate, but do it.

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I'll try.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what you think is the most

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is the funniest part of that episode.

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Speaker 1: I have been saying, I've got the worst pillow in town.

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Quite a bit of that, a lot of it.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of good lines plurbus.

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Speaker 2: We started watching that yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, what is that?

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Speaker 2: It's his new show one, yes, yes, and he's doing

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sci fi and it's like, I don't think I realize

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how badly I wanted that. I know we worked on

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like X Files back the day, but I never saw that. Uh,

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this is like one of the most effective pilots I've

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ever seen. I won't say anything. We went in totally

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blind and it's on Apple TV. Yeah, I know who

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the fuck has it? But it's it's incredible. It's so good.

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All right, yeah TV?

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Speaker 3: What do I know?

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Speaker 1: Why do I know that act? Oh she's from she's

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from Better Cassault. Yeah she's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she's great.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah she's I saw the.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I think it's such a good ride.

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Speaker 3: They carry tension throughout the whole film, and you guys

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are gonna think I'm crazy, but I actually think it's

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very similar to The Chair Company in the sense that

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like it's weirdly stressful and then funny, and you're like,

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I don't know if this should be funny because it's stressful,

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but I can't help it. And I laughed a lot

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during Bogonia when I felt like I should be upset

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or like stress.

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Speaker 2: I can see because it's got you know, again, without

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spoiling it, it's very surreal, and there are definitely characters

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that have some really wild thoughts about what's going on

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and paring them with the utmost certainty, like you know,

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Tim Robinson talking about the Chair Company and then just

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yeahs and stuff in this like it's.

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Speaker 3: They're both characters that are like taking the situation so

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seriously that you're almost like laughing at them because you're like,

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these are ridiculous. The Chair Company has like really good

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moments where Tim Robinson is still such a ridiculous person, right,

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Like he has these really weird quirks that carry him

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in his character. So even though the situation is wild,

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it's like, why did you make this decision? It's such

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an absurd decision. But Gonya is quite similar, where the

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lead characters are making choices where I'm like, is this

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a ridiculous decision that you chose to do this, but

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they feel so strongly about their choices that it feels

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endearing and honest, that's probably like the weirdest review ever.

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But I actually, I think I came home from Bogonia

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and watched that Chair Company and was like, why are

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these so similar?

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Speaker 2: Also, I just I realized, like every time I've seen

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Emma Stone in the last few things I've seen her in,

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it's just like, is she just incredible at every possible

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type of role? You could throw her away.

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Speaker 3: She's one of the best actresses of this of our

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generation for sure. I mean, she's so so talented comedy, drama, everything.

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How does she do it? It's just so committed to

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her roles. Yeah, she's good forget.

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Speaker 2: Did you see The Curse with Nathan Fielder?

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Speaker 1: M you did? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I actually I haven't finished it.

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Speaker 3: Oh well that's and I heard that's when it gets good.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, that one has a slow burn.

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Speaker 2: It does, but and I'll say by the end this

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specifically the end end is like, oh shit, that makes

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us all extremely worth it. And not that it was

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bad ever, but it is a slow burn. But yeah,

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she's incredible on that too. But yeah, Bogonia incredible. I

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want to watch the rest of his stuff. I hadn't seen,

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you know, Bonk is seeing a lot of that of

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the Lobster and Poor Things and his other.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, I wonder what you'd think of that. I

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find that movie like hard to watch.

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Speaker 1: I liked it back in the day. I liked uh yeah,

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I also like the Is it because Jesse Plemmons is

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in Pogonia? Right? Oh yeah, yeah? I love his He's

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he's amazing.

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Speaker 2: This is kind of unlike his other roles, Like he's

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always just kind of a creepy little freak and everything

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he's in, but this is maybe his creepiest little freak role,

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Like he is just uh, really unhinged in this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in Civil War for like two and

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a half minutes, but it felt like an hour because

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he's terrifying.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing, is like he's really like imposing

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and genuinely scary and that like he's a scary character

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in this too, but in the way that he's just

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like not he's detached from reality and you feel like

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he can kind of do anything, but he's not this

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like this threatening Like Mary, how would you describe that

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you've seen Civil War right, Like there's a difference in

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the way he's threatening in the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's insane in one of them, and and this one,

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I actually think he feels quite sure of himself.

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Speaker 2: While also being completely.

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Speaker 3: Insane totally, But I think in this one there's relatability

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to his character, Like he's sensitive because he's it had

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really tough experiences and so you empathize with him, whereas

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like in Civil War, like that's just a it's a psycho.

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Speaker 2: He just seems like a violent, aggressive, awful person, seems

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very broken.

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Speaker 3: And in all every character in Bogonia, I was like, oh,

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I kind of feel for this character, but they're all

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wild so excellent acting from everyone. And I know you

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guys mentioned the main too, but there's a third one

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in there who's also an excellent actor, and I have

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no idea who the hell that guy?

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Speaker 1: Dude?

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Speaker 2: His family member, Yeah he was. He was fascinating in

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that too.

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Speaker 1: He was great.

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Speaker 2: I really love that movie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I saw it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I wanted to tell you guys that, yeah, look

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him up. So while you look up that, I'm going

473
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to describe uh a movie theater in Portland that I'm

474
00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:01,480
always a surprised that they do this, but it's a

475
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,079
movie theater where they they it's like a it only

476
00:21:05,079 --> 00:21:07,440
has like eighteen seats and the seats are like couches,

477
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,319
and so it kind of feels like a home theater,

478
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,240
but it is a legit movie theater with really nice

479
00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:18,519
around sound. And then they cook full meals and deliver

480
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,839
them while you're watching the movie. And when you order,

481
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,039
you order two drinks and they give you a drink

482
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when the movie starts, and a drink when the movie's

483
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halfway finished.

484
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Speaker 2: That sounds like a perfect experience.

485
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Speaker 3: If you ever come visit me again, I think I'm

486
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,400
gonna take you because it's so weird. It's just so

487
00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:37,400
weird when you're like, I'm gonna go see a movie,

488
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,039
but the whole experience. We're gonna go see Pogonia. And

489
00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:43,559
he's in the hallway with us, and then the guy

490
00:21:43,599 --> 00:21:45,440
before he takes us to our seats, he's like, well,

491
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,440
before I do that, let me show you our specials.

492
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 4: He pulls out an iPad and he's like, we have scallops.

493
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: Now.

494
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 3: We fly our scallops in three times a week. These

495
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,960
are never frozen. So I really want you to consider

496
00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:58,799
this Atlantic local salmon and he's like going through all

497
00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,640
these like super nice high end dishes.

498
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 4: They do surf and turf and shit like.

499
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 3: That, and then you sit down in your little couch

500
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,799
and they give you this massive menu of options of

501
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,559
like pretty nice high end.

502
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,759
Speaker 4: Food that I thought was like cooked quite well.

503
00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 3: I was surprised with how high end this kitchen is

504
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:20,480
considering it's a fucking movie theater. And then the people

505
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,240
who sat next to us brought their own goddamn blanket

506
00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:26,359
and so they're like eating surf and turf with their

507
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,200
own blanket on top of their legs.

508
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 4: It's surreal. It's very strange.

509
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,279
Speaker 1: I goes.

510
00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: I know a lot of the stuff started with like

511
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,519
Alamo draft houses and stuff before the pandemic, but I

512
00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:40,599
do feel like post pandemic theaters just had to kind

513
00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:42,599
of like step up their games in a lot of ways. Like, hey,

514
00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:44,400
come on, I know you can stream everything, but still

515
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,559
come over here, and like you get all these recliners,

516
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,519
you get like all the sound, and like everything just

517
00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:50,880
seems like I really like going to the theaters now.

518
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: It was so advanced and everything about the place just

519
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:59,799
feels so odd, and yeah, I keep going back because

520
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:01,960
it's really nice to have a full meal with your

521
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,599
with your movie, plus getting a drink halfway through the

522
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,680
movie given to you. I was just like, oh yes, please,

523
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,160
I deserve this. It was great.

524
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:16,079
Speaker 1: I'm I miss sneaking vodka in in like gay, I mean, yeah,

525
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,880
you can still do it. I wish that was the

526
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,920
only option. We're pampered, We've gone soft. I don't need

527
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,279
a meal during my movie. I want pailbone to hurt

528
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:23,920
when I get up.

529
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: It's still the smart thing to do to sneak it

530
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,720
in because it's way way tooper not.

531
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: To save money. No, no, no, no, no, you're you're not

532
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,200
here what I'm saying. I missed when that was a

533
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:37,440
survival tactic, not just saving ten twelve bucks. In my day,

534
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,000
before YouTube came up, we had to I had to

535
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,720
boof vodka and then let it out during the movie

536
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:48,559
at like a fucking like a water cooler nozzle.

537
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: In my day, I was working at AMC trying to

538
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,880
people stuck an alcohol.

539
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: And get kicked out. Oh I was. I was on

540
00:23:55,759 --> 00:24:00,279
boof patrol twenty four to seven at the movie. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

541
00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: He's like a little meer cat with a wine bottle

542
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,519
sticking out of his ass making sure the police aren't nearby. Alcohol.

543
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: No, it's sexual cool.

544
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: I've got the far sight from perfect dark looking near

545
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,240
rectum yet.

546
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: True, let's taste it. This is alcohol.

547
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: Get out of here. I'm gonna call your mother that worthiness.

548
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,960
I think there's some Brett.

549
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: And then lastly, I'm going to see Chris Fleming on

550
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:37,000
Saturday at Carnegie Hall. Uh. For those who don't know,

551
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,960
he's a comedian who's been kind of blowing up a

552
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,519
bit and like his clips and whatnot is very funny.

553
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 4: Conan loves him, is number one guy. I see her clips.

554
00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 1: I heard the podcast saying like he would go to

555
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,599
Conan's house for parties and then Conan would just like

556
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,000
make a show of throwing him out every time. And

557
00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,000
I couldn't tell why that was amped up, but like

558
00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:56,359
it's a really good bit, Like Chris Fleman would go

559
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,799
into Conan's house during parties and like that, people would

560
00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:01,680
try to talk to him and converse and he'd be like,

561
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,039
not now, I'm being hunted, and then would like kind

562
00:25:04,039 --> 00:25:06,440
of sneak around the party and then Conner would see

563
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,359
him and sprinted him from across the house and throw

564
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,279
him out. I can just.

565
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: Picture Cony like whenever he does that Poe enraged thing, like, yeah,

566
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,559
really good.

567
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing Chris Fleming. I'll report back.

568
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:22,000
He should be good. Anything else new either, updates? Dan,

569
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,960
you've been going like a few weeks?

570
00:25:24,559 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, New York City it was, and yeah yeah, Bonaton,

571
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:28,880
did you have.

572
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:30,759
Speaker 3: A good time? What were some of your highlights? So

573
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:32,039
it was like your favorite part.

574
00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:34,079
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like twenty four hours,

575
00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:35,440
but in your head it felt like it was like

576
00:25:35,519 --> 00:25:37,359
a three hour stream or something, just because it's like

577
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,599
you're so loopy. And so many things happened, Like at

578
00:25:39,599 --> 00:25:42,480
some point I played basketball against Mike Manatti. I kidnapped

579
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:44,160
Jeff Grub and dropped him off in the woods in

580
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,319
the middle of the night. I Vinnie and Alex came by.

581
00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:50,799
I put Jesse Vittelli in a VR helmet, made him

582
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,519
watch Love on a leash, and Nubes did a Mortal

583
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,119
Kombat tournament. Just a lot of stuff happened, and it

584
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,200
was just a lot of laughing and eating McDonald's and hating.

585
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,519
A ton of support from people, uh for for a

586
00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,559
new Giant bomb and uh yeah, very just across the board,

587
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,920
extremely positive experience, good, good old bonding with the team,

588
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:12,640
got a big airbnb together. We watched Naked Gun. It

589
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,640
was my third time in like two months of watch that.

590
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:15,759
Speaker 3: Uh good.

591
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, just hanging out just it was one of those

592
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,440
things where the trip ends and you're flying back and

593
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720
you're like wow, that was just really pulled some stuff

594
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,759
off there and had a lot of fun. So yes,

595
00:26:25,079 --> 00:26:27,599
very feeling very very very good about Giant Bomb right now.

596
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,440
It happened for basically since May.

597
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 4: But especially since the transition.

598
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so it's looking looking very good.

599
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 3: That makes me happy. I'm glad that you guys are

600
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,759
doing well. I saw you guys on Twitch a couple

601
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:48,400
of times and and uh, stop by as my corporate overlord.

602
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,319
Speaker 4: It's fun to do that.

603
00:26:49,799 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, it was fun to seeing you there.

604
00:26:51,799 --> 00:26:53,759
Speaker 3: Sometimes the chat will be like I wonder if it's

605
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:55,640
merry or if it's true.

606
00:26:56,279 --> 00:26:57,759
Speaker 2: Did did you have access?

607
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? He does?

608
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh really okay, yeah yeah you never know.

609
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: But I think he gets a couple of those gen

610
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,400
tonics and the and Drew will say anything just because

611
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,680
he's a pier soul.

612
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 3: I actually I think that he wouldn't unless he like

613
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:14,359
asked for permish, like, that's the kind of person he is.

614
00:27:14,519 --> 00:27:17,920
So if you see someone chatting, it's got to be me,

615
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,400
because Drew would never do that without being like, am

616
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:21,960
I allowed?

617
00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 4: I would like to say x y Z like he's just.

618
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,079
Speaker 2: Too good from a Twitch account, Yeah, yeah.

619
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 3: He would be like more honest.

620
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,839
Speaker 1: I think he's a flight risk. I think that guy's

621
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,559
nothing but trouble.

622
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: Nothing.

623
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: There's no one I would feel better about if I

624
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:39,759
got on a plane and they were there greeting me

625
00:27:39,799 --> 00:27:42,160
in a Captain Suita. But Drew Scalen, Great, We're going

626
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:42,839
to do just fine.

627
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: Oh I meant like as a metaphor, Oh sure, sure yeah,

628
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,359
but ironically he has a pilot's license though he does.

629
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, anything he could be gett an astronaut, no problem,

630
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,519
I'm sure.

631
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,519
Speaker 3: Now, if somebody was coming at you with a knife

632
00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,000
in a mall, who would you want next to you?

633
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 4: I'll to be a personal friend. It can't be like

634
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:02,920
you know.

635
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,559
Speaker 2: Answer for this. It's someone I've been to a bar

636
00:28:05,599 --> 00:28:09,880
with numerous times. It's Samoa Joe. That's that's the guy.

637
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,359
I've never felt more secure than drinking with Samoa Joe.

638
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,319
I still think I could take him. Oh, my god, Mike,

639
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,519
do you know how much I would pay to watch I.

640
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: Think actually, like I've been playing a lot of Donkey

641
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,640
Kong Bananza. I think like he would punch through me,

642
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,079
like you punched through the terrain in the first layer.

643
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,960
Once you've upgraded your power, I would just I would

644
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,400
just explode or be pakes against a wall.

645
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,599
Speaker 3: All the particle effects would look so cool, but you

646
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:36,920
would be super dead.

647
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Substance as well, I should I forgot. We watched

648
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:47,640
the Substance. He's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of there

649
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,480
was a point in that movie where I was laughing

650
00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:51,400
so fucking hard. I mean, I thought many parts of

651
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,799
that were funny intentionally, but there's other parts where it's

652
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,880
like just horrific shit, and it was the funniest fucking

653
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:02,039
thing ever. Cathartic but funny. And oh yeah, that movie's awesome.

654
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,680
To be more fucking unreal, especially like the more the

655
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640
movie goes on, the more I'm like, damn, I forgot.

656
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,039
I didn't grow up watching her, so I was like,

657
00:29:10,039 --> 00:29:13,599
I never saw her at her peak, but she still

658
00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:17,720
was killing it. Jane No, oh.

659
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlie's Angels full throttle.

660
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,759
Speaker 1: She was one of the was she one of the angels,

661
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,720
she was the villain.

662
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:28,759
Speaker 4: She was wearing like a bikini the whole time.

663
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: I gotta go check.

664
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,759
Speaker 3: Just so you know.

665
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: I saw the strip to the poster a lot.

666
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I forgot ab Yeah.

667
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh I've seen this.

668
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think I have these downloaded.

669
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I had a BlackBerry full of just

670
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,720
specifically for photos from that movie from.

671
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: Charlie these Angels full Throttle.

672
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and dazzled.

673
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

674
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about video games?

675
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

676
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, you've seen some quote unquote Valve stuff. Oh yeah,

677
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:13,319
what's going on with that?

678
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,559
Speaker 2: This is my first time getting to talk about it

679
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:19,279
because of the embargo timing and stuff. You So, I

680
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,039
haven't even told you guys about what this is. No, okay,

681
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,839
we're recording this pre embargo. It will be coming out

682
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,440
after embargo. I got I went out to Seattle to

683
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,119
go to Valve HQ and checked out three new pieces

684
00:30:33,119 --> 00:30:36,000
of hardware that they are working on. Uh, and it's

685
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,440
I'm very excited about all three of them. So it

686
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:43,480
is decker is steam jack decker? Yes, yes, they have

687
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,079
a steam steampunkers decker that lives steam upper deckers. The

688
00:30:47,079 --> 00:30:49,759
second one, I thought you hadn't know about this, Mary, Mary.

689
00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 3: I should work in marketing. Tell me more about this

690
00:30:54,319 --> 00:30:56,279
Steam upper decker. I'm excited.

691
00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: So first thing is the steam controller. So that is

692
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,759
a controller that basically imagine you took a steam deck

693
00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:07,160
and you just cut out the screen anyone and you

694
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,440
put it all together. It's got the track pads, it's

695
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,759
got the sticks in the same situations and all that.

696
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,559
Like all the layouts very very similar. It looks weird

697
00:31:15,759 --> 00:31:17,680
if you look at the photo of it, it's gonna

698
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,440
be like, what is that thing? But when I first

699
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,119
held it, my first thought was like, this feels like

700
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,720
a better version of the Dreamcast controller, which like in

701
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,640
terms of just like I was kind of sha you know.

702
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,799
Speaker 1: The way if you cut out the screen from steam

703
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:32,759
Deck and you put it together. What I'm imagining it

704
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:36,079
looking like is something like this like the switch to

705
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:38,319
like square ish, because I feel like if you just

706
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:40,319
mash the sides of a steam deck together, it would

707
00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:41,119
come out looking square.

708
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:41,839
Speaker 3: Is it square?

709
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 4: What's the silhouette?

710
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: It's it's think like Dreamcast. Actually I could send you

711
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:49,440
I will send you here. We'll get a live react here. Okay,

712
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,480
I'm sending the image in our private discord here so

713
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:55,599
you two can react to it. Here here is the

714
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,759
reveal of the Steam controller. What do you think of that?

715
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,839
Speaker 3: Kind of like it looks like the Xbox controller, but

716
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000
somebody pulled its pants down a little bit.

717
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: And panting, Yeah, that looks.

718
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:13,759
Speaker 3: Like it's good. I think it's that the Xbox controller

719
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:17,480
has like you know how like the PlayStation controller is

720
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:22,200
skinny and like fits smallly in the hand, and the

721
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,440
Xbox controller is like kind of fat and thick.

722
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 4: This is fat and thick and also long. Strange.

723
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so it's also got stuff that like so

724
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,319
it's got the track pad and something can see visually,

725
00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:34,839
but then there's stuff too that like I'm sure people

726
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,160
are gonna find really weird cool ways to deal with this,

727
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,599
but like it's got this capacitive stuff on the grips

728
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400
to where based on like how hard or how far

729
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:45,519
your palms are from it. Like for instance, uh, what

730
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,319
was that plane? I was playing a first person shooter?

731
00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,200
I was playing cyberpunk and they had it where it's

732
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,000
like if you grip it fully, it kind of activated

733
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:56,039
the gyro on it so you could, like you know,

734
00:32:56,079 --> 00:32:59,160
you could aim around first person with the motion, which

735
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,160
the gyro stuff is incredible on this. In fact, if

736
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,160
it's in like mouse mode and you're doing like like

737
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,759
a mouse cursor, it is remember like the the WE

738
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,319
remote you know, had the lag and stuff when you're pointing.

739
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:10,119
It sounds good in theory, but it felt like shit.

740
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640
This one felt like using a mouse. It was incredible.

741
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,359
But yeah, so the capacitive stuff, I'm curious to see

742
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:17,119
what people do with that because that that's a unique

743
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,119
implementation there. But yeah, it's got the backgrip buttons and everything.

744
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,039
It's got the track pad there, but it is it

745
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:25,240
looks like just like a tall controller basically.

746
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:28,119
Speaker 4: All like what's up with the double track pad?

747
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: I think?

748
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,279
Speaker 2: So what they want to do is uh and all

749
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:33,119
the stuff I'm going to talk about here, is they

750
00:33:33,759 --> 00:33:39,759
they for the video of folks who were really doing Yeah. Yeah,

751
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,200
they want everything to kind of be similar in terms

752
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,720
of the Steam UI and the controller experience. Uh, just

753
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:48,480
kind of one to one across this hardware and what

754
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:50,519
people know and like about the same deck and everything.

755
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,839
So that's why there's no big swings in terms of

756
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,000
control layout.

757
00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:56,799
Speaker 1: With what I was going to say, what's yeah, what

758
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,039
is what is the Is this meant to become like

759
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:03,000
the de facto PC controller or no?

760
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: So let me move on to number two here. Actually,

761
00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:12,280
right now, they.

762
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 3: Took this Steam Deck and broke it out into two

763
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,039
pieces of hardware. Is it a fucking fat ass controller

764
00:34:17,079 --> 00:34:18,239
and a fat ass screen?

765
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Nope, there's number two. Uh yeah, they made a game

766
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,920
cube cube. It is the cube that is the stem machine,

767
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,519
which out of the three, this is maybe the one

768
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:36,440
I am the most excited about. Uh it is, by

769
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:37,880
the way, So I'm sending you a picture. Now, there's

770
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,599
like a bar. There's like an LED bar on the front.

771
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,320
It's it's just like a black cube basically, but there's

772
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,079
this like LED bar that it can you can customize

773
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:47,559
it to be like, you know, power. You can have

774
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,840
it be like download you know, you can be a

775
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,599
proceress like.

776
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,559
Speaker 1: Half of a Series X kind of if you were

777
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:53,280
to cut it like a.

778
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,039
Speaker 2: It does look it is actually smaller though it is

779
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,039
more akin to the size of the game cube, I

780
00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:02,519
would say, and power wise, So this is a console.

781
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,719
Steam Valve made a console. It is six times more

782
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,400
powerful than a Steam Deck. And so if you were

783
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,440
to get this and you just it's got an HDMI

784
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,320
out and it's got to display pored out. So let's

785
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,880
say you just put it under your TV like any

786
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,800
other console, hook it up via HDMI. You could take

787
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,039
it on day one when you own it, and you

788
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:21,559
could take the SD card out of your Steam deck,

789
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:23,719
pop it in there, and all your games and everything

790
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,440
are right there. And since it's all using the same

791
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:27,280
UI and everything, oh you don't have to read download

792
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,320
a bunch of stuff. It's just using the same game,

793
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,880
the same system and everything. So they just straight up

794
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,559
made a console.

795
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 4: So they made a switch, being that now you can, like.

796
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,559
Speaker 1: Now it's easier to play PC games in the living room,

797
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:42,079
et cetera on a TV exactly exactly, but also presumably,

798
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,599
what is the hardware like compared to a series extra

799
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:45,679
PS five? Do you know?

800
00:35:46,199 --> 00:35:49,599
Speaker 2: So I asked that a bunch, you know, just like, okay,

801
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:52,079
we're talking like base base PS five here we say,

802
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:53,719
And they were they were a little reluctant to say

803
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,320
things like that. Okay, Mary is lifting up her keyboard

804
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,519
right now and shaking out beer.

805
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: We have beer there, So what's happening? Oh cores light.

806
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,760
Oh she's still cores light in.

807
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: The Oh my goodness, Mary, this is this is I've

808
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,840
done this before. This is not good.

809
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,559
Speaker 3: That's pretty brute, you guys.

810
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:12,119
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Mary, keep going.

811
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: That's tough.

812
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 2: It is six times more powerful in the Steam That

813
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,239
is what they told me basically, So they were not

814
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,440
going to I've got the specs here, so I don't

815
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,199
know are you Are you a specs guy, Mike.

816
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,559
Speaker 1: H enough to all right, get Egg?

817
00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: What do you want?

818
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: What? Like? What's the video card in it?

819
00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:30,639
Speaker 5: Uh?

820
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: The video card is a semi custom a m D

821
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,840
r d n A three twenty six cu supports four

822
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,280
K gaming at sixty FBS with fs R rate tracing supported.

823
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,960
The CPU is an a m D six scores in

824
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:47,639
four x eighty six, comes in a five twelve gigabyte

825
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:50,360
model and a two terabyte model, and it is going

826
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,679
to ship with one of those Steam controllers.

827
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: That's the price.

828
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: That's the bundle price. They did not announce. So and like,

829
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,639
you know, I think it's one of those things where

830
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,000
like I think it's the new reality now is like

831
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,360
you're going to see a lot of things announced and

832
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,639
people being like I I don't know, Like look at

833
00:37:05,639 --> 00:37:07,079
the switch, you know, you got announced and they had

834
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:08,960
to change the price of successories and stuff like that.

835
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,559
It's just the current state of things.

836
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 3: But no screen. And here's the thing that's like really

837
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,480
interesting about this unless the third thing you're going to

838
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:15,400
announce is the screen.

839
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: But the thing like, wait, what screen? What are you

840
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,000
talking about?

841
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying there's no screen.

842
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 3: So when you're talking about TV, yeah, it's like a console,

843
00:37:24,039 --> 00:37:26,239
as I was saying, when you're talking about a switch

844
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:29,440
or a steam deck, it has a screen built in.

845
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,480
And screens are really expensive to produce, right, oh, because

846
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,159
of the stuff that's in them. This has no screen,

847
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,360
so obviously you have to plug it into one. But

848
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,159
what I'm saying is that the price point is going

849
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:42,239
to be distinctly less because it doesn't have to pay

850
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,519
for a fucking screen. You're paying only for like a

851
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:47,519
piece of hardware. So I'm actually thinking it's going to

852
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,400
be around three hundred dollars.

853
00:37:49,639 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: Oh. I think it's that the specs you just read

854
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,960
off are like, I don't disagree with you that, like

855
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,880
they're saving money by not having a screen, not making

856
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,519
it a handheld. But the specs you were just reading

857
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,440
are like the good a decent PC.

858
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you think about like the price of

859
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,159
modern consoles, you know, like they're not three hundred dollars.

860
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 4: It's seven.

861
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: I would say, like five six.

862
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: I'm operating off of no information here. If they said

863
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,800
seven hundred, especially for this two terrible one, I would

864
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,000
not be shocked. So but they have not announced it yet,

865
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,079
so yeah, I mean I would think of this more

866
00:38:21,079 --> 00:38:24,199
akin to like a PlayStation five or Nextbox Series X

867
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,800
or something like that, you know, versus comparing with things

868
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,800
with screens and stuff like that, like all these components

869
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,760
and everything and bringing things in from all over the world.

870
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,719
Like I think everything is influx right now.

871
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,159
Speaker 1: So you know, wait, let me guess, is it the

872
00:38:36,199 --> 00:38:43,599
next VR? Yes, okay, it's.

873
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:44,119
Speaker 2: The Steam frame. It's the Steam frame?

874
00:38:44,639 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: So no, wait was the vibe them?

875
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: No, that was if I was HTC, But they worked

876
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,960
it was like a third party thing they did, so yes,

877
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,320
it was involved. They did the index was I wonder if.

878
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: They're going to do a new half life.

879
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: Still going on VR?

880
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a good one. It's maybe I think

881
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,400
it is the best one I've ever used for sure. Like,

882
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,320
so I'm showing you the picture here of kind of

883
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,840
the whole suite of stuff, the front of that VR

884
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,639
headset is the computer. Basically it's all a local thing

885
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,960
like like the metic Quest, but it is so light.

886
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,679
So it's got the computer basically on the front and

887
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,320
it's got the battery in the back, and they have

888
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,159
got to balance extremely well. So in terms of comfort level,

889
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:28,360
it is definitely the best I've used. And so something

890
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,800
I think is really cool here is it comes with

891
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,320
this dongle and you can use it locally, so you

892
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,960
can use it like a meta Quest three. You can

893
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,039
play games locally on it and everything. But that dongle

894
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:43,159
will plug into the Steam machine or a PC and

895
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,639
it will just send the gameplay, like all the gameplay information,

896
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,719
graphical information, and everything goes over the dongle. My understanding

897
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,920
is not using the Internet. It is just using it locally,

898
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,760
just kind of beaming it there and then so that way,

899
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,760
it's like if you have bad Wi Fi or something

900
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,960
like that, it's not gonna to be super hitchy and

901
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,239
shitty because it's using your WiFi. This dongle will send

902
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,800
it and just the gameplay stuff, just the stuff needed

903
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
for the gameplay versus like you know, Discord voice chat,

904
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:12,400
other Internet applications and things like that, so we uh

905
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,800
we we. They turned on some debug filters for us

906
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,480
when I was using it, and they have a thing

907
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,119
where it's like they have a ten percent of your

908
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,760
view basically like which sounds like a very small amount,

909
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,920
but like they turned they toggled it on and off,

910
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,199
and it's like basically the center of your view no

911
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,800
matter where you're looking with both your head and your eyes.

912
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,800
It's got eye tracking. They are putting way more like

913
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,719
horsepower into that ten percent window that the center of

914
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,039
your eyes is looking at what they're doing. The thing

915
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:40,719
that they've done it in like standard non VR games

916
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,599
as well, where it's like you know, they'll be is

917
00:40:42,599 --> 00:40:43,679
it dynamic rendering or.

918
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,199
Speaker 1: No, there's a there's a cool I'll look it up

919
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,239
something like that. Yeah.

920
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I think they had a term for it here they

921
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,119
called like foviated streaming or something. Yes, I think, yes,

922
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,920
they were using the term foviiate of the lot.

923
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I think I think Meta also used that. Yeah. Okay, okay,

924
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,880
and maybe not not to the extent you're talking about,

925
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,559
but that's I knew I'd heard that phrase before and

926
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:04,400
I didn't see this, but.

927
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: It's it's all wireless, and so you're not connected to anything.

928
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:09,199
Speaker 2: At no point will you be wired. I mean, I

929
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,519
don't even know if that's the possibility charge.

930
00:41:11,199 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: Though, Like, could you could plug into so you don't

931
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,880
have to How would you How do you charge this thing?

932
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: I mean I would just seem like anything else, you

933
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,679
just plug it in when you're not using it.

934
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: Right, But if you have zero if you have zero battery,

935
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,679
I'm just refuting the fact that you'll never be wired.

936
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,440
If you have zero battery and you want to play it,

937
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,280
you're gonna have to have it.

938
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: That's probably an option to just play.

939
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:39,079
Speaker 1: I'm being as I'm just yea, how do you charge

940
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,719
this thing? Yeah? No, it's it's it's really solid.

941
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,159
Speaker 2: I I remain skeptical of just like VR in general,

942
00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:49,039
because until they're actually like, look, half Life Alex kicks

943
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,239
ass and I played a half Life Alex beaming off

944
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,079
of the Good Game. No doubt this will be the

945
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,400
best way to play it, just like super easy streaming

946
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,840
from going to be a new half didn't say anything about.

947
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:04,039
Speaker 1: That, but Half Life Brad, Oh my god, if they

948
00:42:04,519 --> 00:42:07,679
if they in some world did like announce that this

949
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,239
is going to launch with a half Life three, they

950
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,960
that would just I mean, I know there's that's a no,

951
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:13,880
I'm not actually thinking it's gonna happen. There's in no

952
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,480
way what they need to do, if anything. Like I

953
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:19,639
think this lineup's kind of cool. Like, I think it

954
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:21,840
all looks good. I like the aesthetic. It's ten times

955
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,039
better than the monstrosity that is the PS five that

956
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:25,960
I've still not gotten used to seeing in my home.

957
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,039
Speaker 2: The console itself, the.

958
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Design of the console itself. I think this, all this

959
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:31,239
stuff is all slick looking.

960
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: I like all this Like when I go home for

961
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,280
the holidays, I'm not bringing a fucking any modern console

962
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,840
outside of the switch. Like, this thing is very packful,

963
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,400
and I think more importantly, the thing I kept thinking

964
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,239
about here was someone like my sister, who loves video

965
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,679
games just her whole life, has loved video games, but

966
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,679
has never had never played games on a PC, you know,

967
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,800
never never had that. Like this is a way to like,

968
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,719
like just just if something's just on Steam, she's not

969
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,599
playing it. She's even if it's like super for her,

970
00:42:57,639 --> 00:42:58,840
and I would love for her to check it out,

971
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,400
I'm never gonna recommend it because she's just doesn't have

972
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,440
a way to play it. This is this is a console.

973
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,440
This is a box that you plug into your TV,

974
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,320
but it has access to your games Steam library.

975
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: I will say.

976
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: The use case for me is like when I play

977
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,559
PC games, I have to go upstairs into my work

978
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,119
station where my gaming you know.

979
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 4: Spaces, and that's fine, I can do it.

980
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: But the thing I really want to do is play

981
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,320
PC games on the couch, like in the comfort of

982
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:27,840
my home.

983
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 4: But I don't have.

984
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,119
Speaker 3: Another PC set up there. So I play my Steam

985
00:43:33,199 --> 00:43:36,320
Deck on the couch. This I would connect to my TV,

986
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,239
and I think that is that is kind of the

987
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:39,920
game changer.

988
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: So here's another thing too, is let's say, okay, Haitis

989
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,760
two runs great on the Steam deck, you play it

990
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,320
on there, then you can also go play it on

991
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:48,400
the Steam machine on your TV.

992
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: Same thing I said.

993
00:43:49,559 --> 00:43:52,599
Speaker 2: About the SD card works with the Steam frame as well,

994
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,320
where you pop it in there and all your games

995
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,320
on Steam are there, and so even two D games,

996
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,400
so like anything on Steam. I played Hades two in

997
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,639
the Steam Frame and did the thing where it blew

998
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,239
up the screen super big. The resolution was awesome, Like

999
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,599
it was a super comfortable, cool way to play that game.

1000
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,440
It's got the split controllers I sent you guys. The

1001
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,840
photo here you can see it's you know, if you've

1002
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,840
seen like a Metaquest controller or something like that, it

1003
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,440
looks similar. But it was a very comfortable, cool way

1004
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,679
to play Hades too. So like if you were in

1005
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,760
that Steam ecosystem, you have so many different options here

1006
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,000
that you knows, assuming it works the way they're saying

1007
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,280
it will and the way I experienced it working is

1008
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,880
it's just this seamless way to like, I don't know

1009
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,920
if you want to play on a Steam Deck on

1010
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,000
a plane, you want to play it on your TV

1011
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,199
at home?

1012
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,039
Speaker 1: Do you want to play it in VR?

1013
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: Like it's really really cool stuff they're doing here.

1014
00:44:33,519 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's like a world in which if I have

1015
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,280
all of them, I'm in here playing Rainbow six Siege

1016
00:44:40,519 --> 00:44:42,840
on mouse and keyboard or a strategy game on mouse

1017
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,360
and keyboard. But then I'm like, oh, I'm done. I'm

1018
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,440
gonna go hang out in the living room of the

1019
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,599
mand I bring my Steam deck and then my brother

1020
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,320
texts me, He's like, hey, do you want to play

1021
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,840
Apex on Steam? And I'm like sure, and then I

1022
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,519
bring I come back in and now I'm all of

1023
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:59,079
a sudden on this console like that's the seamlessness. And

1024
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:01,159
also like I trust fail to figure out the software

1025
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,400
side of things and the platform side of things and

1026
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,760
the hardware now at this point. So that's all super promising.

1027
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,320
I would like to have that full suite as of

1028
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,559
now pending. Yeah, to Mary's point, like how much I'm

1029
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:13,199
gonna have to pay for it?

1030
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 4: How much is it because I can make it?

1031
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying that particularly it's dan how much is

1032
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:25,599
it because I have computers that when I build them,

1033
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:28,039
it's nice because then I could replace pieces. What's kind

1034
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:31,519
of frustrating about buying a PC console is like again,

1035
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:33,320
that's why I bring up the price point, is like,

1036
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,199
if I'm going to spend seven hundred dollars, I'm going

1037
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,000
to build my own PC and then replace pieces as

1038
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:38,599
I need to.

1039
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 4: This is like a one and done Cuba.

1040
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:47,079
Speaker 1: Or is it modular? Did they say I doubt it?

1041
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: Look at the spec sheet here. I want to say

1042
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,159
they said something about like they might have said like

1043
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,599
certain elements of a good like storage and things like that,

1044
00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:54,480
but I don't want to say.

1045
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: I'm only seeing two USB c's and one no way, Yeah,

1046
00:45:58,639 --> 00:46:01,840
two USB's and one s port, and it's.

1047
00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: Like okay for USBA ports two USB three in the front,

1048
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:12,519
two USB two in the rear. Yeah, okay, I'm not

1049
00:46:12,519 --> 00:46:16,239
seeing anything on the spec sheet about modification, but you

1050
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,719
know TVD on that, I don't want to say anything

1051
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:17,880
like that.

1052
00:46:18,199 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: I doubt it.

1053
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,119
Speaker 3: I ventually on consoles, they don't want you like opening

1054
00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,039
your up and like fixing it. So it's just like

1055
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,920
again for a PC situation, especially for people who are

1056
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,079
like playing multiplayer games, You're gonnaed to hook up your

1057
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:36,119
MIC and you know, like other components and so anyway,

1058
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:38,719
when I'm like streaming, I need to have a rig.

1059
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,400
So I probably I would never use this for like streaming,

1060
00:46:42,039 --> 00:46:46,320
but for gaming casually this has a market, but again

1061
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,239
only to a certain price. At a certain price, like

1062
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,239
just build.

1063
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: These days, any new piece of hardware, I'm just always

1064
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,760
bracing for it to be more than people want or expect. Yeah,

1065
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,599
probably fair. I think that's the worst.

1066
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still so hopeful. I'm so hopeful that it

1067
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,960
won't crush me with its cost.

1068
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the time this episode goes up, the announcement

1069
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,960
will have officially gone out from Balve. But I don't

1070
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,840
think they're going to be announcing the price the soon.

1071
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: I think they know better with what happened plus all

1072
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,960
the other stuff, it's probably still actually like malleable based

1073
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,079
on tariffs and a bunch of other factors of what

1074
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:28,000
it will end up being.

1075
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 4: Ye crazy cool.

1076
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, very very like.

1077
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,119
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, like they don't They are very

1078
00:47:35,159 --> 00:47:37,280
selective and when they reach out to press and stuff

1079
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,119
like that, and every time they have reached out it's

1080
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:41,840
been for a good reason. And so yeah, we took

1081
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,480
the trip and went out there and it's like, oh, okay,

1082
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:46,639
you guys have some real shit cooking here. It's no game.

1083
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,760
They didn't announce anything about like games or anything like that.

1084
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:50,119
Speaker 1: I played.

1085
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:54,079
Speaker 2: I played Haites two. I played a Half Life Alex.

1086
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,199
I played there was I forget the name of this game.

1087
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:58,760
It is you're on a boat talking to a dude.

1088
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:03,639
I don't know, you know a boat spirit fairer. No, No,

1089
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,920
it's there's a storm. There's a guy with a hat

1090
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,119
on a boat.

1091
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: Mmm.

1092
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,519
Speaker 1: See if thieves like two games say it.

1093
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: Was like an indie game. I wasn't aware. Turned I

1094
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,760
played Cyberpunk, I played Metal Garslid Delta, I played you know,

1095
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,039
they said like the Steam Library as of now is

1096
00:48:25,079 --> 00:48:26,480
like it can kind of run everything at like four

1097
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:28,679
K sixty the Steam Machine.

1098
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: So cool.

1099
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,159
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1100
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,559
Speaker 1: Oh wait sorry, and they there's no like launch window.

1101
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 2: Early next year.

1102
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Oh gotcha? Okay, so I would see like I wonder

1103
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:47,079
if yeah, I wonderful see price stuff like before the

1104
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:49,719
New Year's or not. I don't think so. I think

1105
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,400
if they're going to they do it right now. But

1106
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,760
yeah cool. Speaking of new hardware, I caught up and

1107
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,039
got a switch to and so far I've played a

1108
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:03,199
bunch of ports for like work purposes, just to test

1109
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:08,440
stuff out. But uh, tried Mario Kart as well. Cool

1110
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,159
stuff there. That game is like, I don't know that

1111
00:49:11,199 --> 00:49:12,920
I'll keep going back. I was never the biggest Mario

1112
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:13,519
Kart person I.

1113
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:17,119
Speaker 4: Played console seller. In my opinion, that game is not.

1114
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: But fucking uh Dan, I'm not trying to be mean

1115
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:24,199
when you talk. When you talk a big game about

1116
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,199
Nintendo games, I think you you'll be the first to

1117
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,039
admit like you really like Nintendo games. No, I think

1118
00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:35,239
you're you're capable of looking past your Nintendo mark.

1119
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: I have given so many bad reviews to first person

1120
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,199
Nintendo game awesome up a fucking list. If you need them, Paper,

1121
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:44,360
Mario Colors, Black, start Bucks zero, all fucking shit on

1122
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,280
Nintendo all day.

1123
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah those games suck though, But like I'm saying, yeah,

1124
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:51,639
you really like Nintendo games, I'm always like, oh cool.

1125
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,840
And then also when I hear that Giant Bomb likes

1126
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,119
a three D platform, I'm like, what else is new?

1127
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,320
So I was like, Okay, I went into this game

1128
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,719
with high expectations because it's the Super Mario Odyssey team

1129
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,760
and because it just I've heard a lot of people

1130
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,000
say it's really good, that game is fucking good. But actually,

1131
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:11,360
I realize people who are listening to this have probably

1132
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,840
heard a lot of people talk about this game so far.

1133
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,800
I won't like harp on this game too long, especially

1134
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,360
because we've got Game of the Year coming up soon.

1135
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,840
I'm going to save some stuff for that. I'm only

1136
00:50:19,199 --> 00:50:24,679
two worlds and two layers quo quote not much, not

1137
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,639
counting sub layers. So this this nomenclature is weird. You're

1138
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:32,559
basically instead of going between worlds, you're going deeper and

1139
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:35,239
deeper into this like planet toward the core. But of course,

1140
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,800
like once you get down to a certain one, you're

1141
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,679
outside in like a lagoon or hilltops, or a forest,

1142
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:46,440
et cetera. But like, I don't think this game is

1143
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,880
is perfect by any means. I think the camera. I mean,

1144
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,239
so those who don't know, you can break almost everything

1145
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,880
in this game. It's Donkey Kong. You're just smashing almost NonStop.

1146
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,880
You can punch upward, you can punch downward, you could

1147
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,840
punch forward, you can surf on these explosive blocks, you

1148
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,400
can punch through walls. You're doing this ground slam to

1149
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:10,039
highlight collectible items like bananas or seashells or whatever the

1150
00:51:10,039 --> 00:51:13,000
thematic item is in that world, and you're highlighting them

1151
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,760
like with a sonar ping when you slam the ground,

1152
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,039
which is really nice creative use of that. It's gonna

1153
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:21,480
happen when you get into tight tunnels in this game.

1154
00:51:21,519 --> 00:51:25,360
The camera's not gonna know how the fucks react. It

1155
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,360
gets a bit annoying. I forgive it, just because again

1156
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719
they are letting me basically dig into the bowels of

1157
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,800
this game with by punching the ground and like minecrafting

1158
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:40,360
my way through the environment. But like the amount of

1159
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:46,519
creativity on display is just unreal. The joy Yeah, it's

1160
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,639
the like it's the most like Capital v Capital G

1161
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,760
video game of I'm trying to remember. I think we

1162
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,519
we've talked about this a lot, Like Mary, you would

1163
00:51:54,519 --> 00:51:57,039
love this game. I think like it. Obviously the switch

1164
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:00,760
to is not everybody has one, but like, if you

1165
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,119
get it, I would actually like Now I know how

1166
00:52:03,199 --> 00:52:04,519
much I like this I wish I had gotten a

1167
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:10,039
switch to sooner. The worlds are gorgeous. The fact that

1168
00:52:10,119 --> 00:52:13,760
like it's super reductive at this point to like compare

1169
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,440
it to Super Mario Odyssey. But I will say that

1170
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,159
that team is so good at classic Mario games or

1171
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,119
just like Genius in the way that they can introduce

1172
00:52:23,159 --> 00:52:26,159
an idea and then put a twist on an idea

1173
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,480
and then like test you to master the idea, whether

1174
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,280
against a boss or just like a more difficult world.

1175
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:33,920
The fact that they can still sort of pull that

1176
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,800
off in a wide open world, like these areas are

1177
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,320
not completely wide open, but for all intensive purposes they

1178
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,280
kind of are, especially because you can just dig from

1179
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,519
one side to another in certain cases. The fact that

1180
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:49,960
they can still onboard and tutorialize such like fun creative ideas,

1181
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,719
but then by the time you get to a different

1182
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,960
part of the map, it's just you've mastered it and

1183
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,480
now you're being tested in a really creative way against

1184
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,280
a boss. Like I also just love that half the

1185
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,360
time the solution is just to smash things, like everything.

1186
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,360
They're they're under no illusion that Donkey Kong needs to

1187
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,079
be anything other than an ape that really fucking likes

1188
00:53:09,079 --> 00:53:10,159
bananas and smashes.

1189
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: Everything's Donkey Kong's not doing witness puzzles, you know.

1190
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, there's no secret thing happening in the sky

1191
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:17,719
that you need to draw a line across. It's just

1192
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,079
it went ins out climb something, or you can almost

1193
00:53:21,079 --> 00:53:23,599
climb nearly anything as well, unless it's a certain surface

1194
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,800
or break anything like.

1195
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: Throw a boulder at something.

1196
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they they're not precious about Like it's just I

1197
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:33,320
come across like there's this lagoon that's been drained, or

1198
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,119
like there's this water source up in the sky has

1199
00:53:36,159 --> 00:53:39,519
been plugged up by this villain, and you're trying to

1200
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:42,440
remove these butt plugs to let the water flow back down.

1201
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:44,360
But of course there's a monkey trying to fish in

1202
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,000
a lagoon, and you can see his thought bubble or

1203
00:53:47,039 --> 00:53:50,920
his conversation bubble from like a few feet away, and

1204
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,800
he's just like finally some peace and quiet of fish

1205
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,039
and then I come through slamming the ground and breaking

1206
00:53:56,079 --> 00:53:58,800
all the palm trees and like basically just destroying the pond.

1207
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,199
He's like, well, now I gotta find somewhere else to fish,

1208
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,159
Like you can the world and the NPCs are so

1209
00:54:06,039 --> 00:54:10,800
nonchalant about you just wrecking everything. Oh, it's it's it's amazing.

1210
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: It's the most like, yeah, just hop into a world

1211
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,920
and run around and fuck stuff up, and you're gonna

1212
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,360
you're gonna just come across fun stuff to do in

1213
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,599
specific challenges and stuff like that. But you really can

1214
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,960
just aimlessly go through the world and punch stuff and

1215
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,280
it's not totally mindless in that way, you know.

1216
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: Right, I was gonna say much of the time it

1217
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,480
can be mindless and you're just smashing stuff, and I'm

1218
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:31,719
like going into a trance just destroying everything because it's

1219
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,440
so satisfying and the haptic feedback and it's such a

1220
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,719
crunchy game. It feels amazing to play. But then other

1221
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,480
times there's like, oh, right, it's the it's this team.

1222
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:43,840
They know how to create a puzzle, which again they're

1223
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,719
not gonna be the most complicated puzzles, but every once

1224
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,079
in a while I have had to stop and think

1225
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:49,960
a bit, or at least like look around and take

1226
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,159
in the environment and figure think out my next step.

1227
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:56,280
But it yeah, it's just I also, oh god, I

1228
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,760
love that there's there was one point where I thought

1229
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,920
of you, Dan, and I was like, oh my god,

1230
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,079
I think they made this game for Dan Riiker. Basically,

1231
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:07,679
you have to hear one character talk or read his

1232
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:12,199
his you know, a rant for like sixty seconds, which

1233
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,159
by this game's measurement, is a long time. And I

1234
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:16,760
was like, oh, I wonder how Dan felt about this.

1235
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,320
And then all of a sudden you get a banana

1236
00:55:18,519 --> 00:55:21,559
just for sitting through the dialogue, which are funny time

1237
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,519
congrats a golden banana. Yeah. And then Donkey Kong like

1238
00:55:25,559 --> 00:55:27,000
of course, now I got a skill point and now

1239
00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:29,440
all of a sudden, I can punch through harder terrain. No,

1240
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:32,440
that game's amazing. It's just like I love Super Mario

1241
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,119
want to see. I liked Astrobot for what it's worth,

1242
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,719
and I thought that game was like just joyful and

1243
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,280
they had a blast making it and it's just unabashedly

1244
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,719
a video game. But like Donkey Kong Bananza, I don't

1245
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,719
know that another game this year compares in terms of

1246
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,960
just like it's not trying to be anything other than

1247
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,119
what it is, and what it is is they just

1248
00:55:52,199 --> 00:55:55,199
nailed almost everything they've been trying to do so far.

1249
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:00,199
And yeah, it's great. I'm glad that a whole bunch. Yeah,

1250
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,880
it's phenomenal. I like it quite a bit.

1251
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: I'm glad.

1252
00:56:06,679 --> 00:56:08,119
Speaker 1: Mary. What have you been playing.

1253
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,599
Speaker 3: I've been playing a little game called I should be

1254
00:56:12,639 --> 00:56:14,320
like one of the best titled games of the year

1255
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:22,400
r V there yet, which is a.

1256
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 4: Co op or what we've been calling what do you

1257
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:22,639
call it?

1258
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:28,159
Speaker 3: Like slaugh friends slop game about four people who need

1259
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:30,800
to get in an RV and go to a destination

1260
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,960
on a map, but most of the time you're.

1261
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 4: Smoking and drinking and chilling by the water.

1262
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,639
Speaker 3: It's just a really fun, stupid game to play with

1263
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:47,960
your friends because there's nothing truly serious about it. There's

1264
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,400
a complete dedicated button to smoking, and so you just

1265
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,119
constantly have a cigarette in your mouth and you're like

1266
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,519
all smoking while you talk to each other and planning

1267
00:56:57,559 --> 00:57:00,599
what you're gonna do. It's the actual like the gameplay

1268
00:57:00,679 --> 00:57:04,320
is that the RV can get stuck on the terrain.

1269
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,800
It puts you in some like really precarious situations mud,

1270
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:13,320
really tall steep hills, you know, precarious mountain tops, et cetera.

1271
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,440
And so you need to be able to use the

1272
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,400
tools to get your RV through these physical puzzles. There's

1273
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,960
a wench, which is my favorites kind of op and

1274
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:28,079
you can attach a cable from your RV the front

1275
00:57:28,159 --> 00:57:31,239
or the back to pull your RV through some of

1276
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,119
these spaces. There's also like wedges that you might want

1277
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,000
to put and then just like classic stuff like a

1278
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,280
wooden board, and so you put the wooden board in

1279
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,960
front of the tires if you're stuck in the mud

1280
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,800
and things like that.

1281
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,559
Speaker 2: You can also attach the wench to other players. So

1282
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:46,239
if you're playing with four players and we were doing

1283
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:48,320
a stream, I attached it to Jeff Backlar and suddenly

1284
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,840
Mike not he's driving the RV and it's dragging Jeff backl.

1285
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: So funny like the situations that you get into, but

1286
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,800
like it really is the surprises of the game that

1287
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,960
I think made us love it so much, Like you know,

1288
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,320
running into the trees to be like I wonder what's

1289
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,960
ahead and then running back and being like bear, Bear Bear,

1290
00:58:06,199 --> 00:58:09,239
And there are bears in the game and elk for

1291
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,679
some reason that can impact your gameplay.

1292
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,639
Speaker 4: So we laughed a lot about all the crazy antics

1293
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:16,159
we got into.

1294
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 3: The RV is a stick shift, which is a very

1295
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,199
funny thing to play in a video game. So you

1296
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,679
have to like push in the clutch, go into first

1297
00:58:24,719 --> 00:58:28,119
in second gear to be able to drive, and the game.

1298
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 4: Is it's just very cheeky.

1299
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:31,039
Speaker 3: What does it say.

1300
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:31,639
Speaker 4: It says like.

1301
00:58:34,639 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: In the instructions it goes, oh, if you never learned

1302
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,079
how to drive a stick shift, it's time to learn.

1303
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,360
And so it's just kind of like making you try

1304
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,320
these things for the first time. I think when the

1305
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,199
coffee cup is full, it has the option to drink,

1306
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,760
and when the coffee cup is empty and you're holding it,

1307
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,239
the option for action is to do nothing. It just

1308
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,400
literally says do nothing because there's nothing in the coffee cup. Like,

1309
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,480
these guys had fun making this stupid bid game and

1310
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:02,679
allowing you to play.

1311
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: And there's fun stuff you can do too, where it's

1312
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,559
like almost like air traffic control arms and stuff. So

1313
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:08,840
if you're like, you know, you can move arms individually

1314
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,760
to point like, oh, you're far away, and it's if

1315
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,920
I told you guys aout the movie Sorcerer where it's

1316
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,280
a but the truck never had the draw bridge.

1317
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,199
Speaker 1: It's a lot like that.

1318
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:21,039
Speaker 2: It's a lot like there'sious stuff. It's like William Friedkin's

1319
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,199
Sorcerer to like lay down, you know, planks and stuff

1320
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:27,559
across like a river and you're driving an RV across

1321
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:29,440
it and one person's on the other side. Okay, go

1322
00:59:29,519 --> 00:59:31,280
that way, go that way, and you've got the prox

1323
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,840
chat and all that stuff. You can also just kind

1324
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,719
of wildly motion towards things. It's it does a there

1325
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,800
is that good mix of like actual gameplay there and

1326
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,840
it's not just total chaos, but also like they know

1327
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,119
what kind of game they're making, and there's enough silliness

1328
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:45,519
there too.

1329
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:47,559
Speaker 3: They knew what they were making for sure, and they

1330
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:49,519
kind of honed in on that. There's a lot of

1331
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,760
stuff that isn't really final, but it's fine. Snakes in

1332
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,760
that game are just like a straight up like it

1333
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,719
just looks like a long piece of brown. It doesn't

1334
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,840
have any snake qualities, but if you get close to it,

1335
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,360
it will bite you and poison you. So they like

1336
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,079
knew where to put their their energy and it was

1337
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:09,320
not in snake animations. This thing looks they put.

1338
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,239
Speaker 2: In a bunch of chubby little dudes, and they put.

1339
01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: In a bunch of chubby little dudes.

1340
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:17,199
Speaker 3: There's hats that you get to wear, so a lot

1341
01:00:17,239 --> 01:00:19,719
of things to enjoy about the game. I also will

1342
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:23,679
just say it's it's lovely to actually sit and rest

1343
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,320
and look at the beautiful vistas the game puts you

1344
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,679
in and have a cigarette. I just kept I kept

1345
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,719
finding myself being like, what's time for lunch? A little

1346
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,199
lunch break, right, like thiss have little cigarettes and like

1347
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,639
enjoy the view, and we would we would.

1348
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: Do that a lot.

1349
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:41,719
Speaker 3: The cooking in the game is very silly. So health

1350
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,760
is you know, you can break bones falling and stuff

1351
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,559
like that, and one way to get your health back

1352
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:50,079
is to eat. So when you first start, there's these

1353
01:00:50,119 --> 01:00:53,360
frozen patties and if you come across to grill and

1354
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,480
you light the grill, you put the frozen patties on

1355
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:58,360
the grill, and after like I don't know, ten to

1356
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,880
fifteen seconds literally goes and a full burger with lettuce, cheese, onion,

1357
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:09,119
tomato comes out. It just kind of pops out and

1358
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:11,119
then you go collect it and eat it. I think

1359
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:14,199
it's it's whimsical and cheeky and fun, and I loved it.

1360
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,559
Like some stuff I wish they did a little differently.

1361
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,599
I find that most problems can be solved with the wench,

1362
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:21,960
and I wish that.

1363
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 4: They pushed the player to try other things.

1364
01:01:25,159 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: I found that in almost every situation would be like,

1365
01:01:27,519 --> 01:01:29,559
we can winch our ways out of here, but.

1366
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:32,159
Speaker 4: It's more interesting to lose.

1367
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: I think it's more interesting to be challenged with a

1368
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,840
situation where you cannot use the wench and you have

1369
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,320
to like brute force your way through it. The way

1370
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,480
you lose this game is everyone dying or you're RV

1371
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:49,639
taking so much damage that it is essentially broken, and

1372
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:52,480
then you start back at your last save. But you

1373
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:56,960
can repair your RV at every save location. I found

1374
01:01:57,039 --> 01:02:00,840
that very rarely did we destroy our and had to

1375
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,880
start back at the save, and so I would have

1376
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:07,360
liked the game to challenge us even more. But the

1377
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,280
situations that it put you in is very whimsical. When

1378
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:15,480
one of them was just a massive ramp that shot

1379
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:17,360
up and then a huge gap to get to the

1380
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,719
next area, and so it's like whoever's driving needs to

1381
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:22,119
be able to get into fifth gear very quickly and

1382
01:02:22,239 --> 01:02:24,280
know what they're doing, and the rest of us are

1383
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,159
just holding on for dear life. And we we had

1384
01:02:27,199 --> 01:02:29,239
a good time, Like the whole time we were laughing

1385
01:02:29,559 --> 01:02:32,360
and pushing each other off cliffs. You can also pick

1386
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,440
each other up and throw throw each other, which I

1387
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,320
think is fun. A great friends slop game, especially in

1388
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,119
between rounds of Peak or some other crap that you'd

1389
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:41,719
play with your friends. I think it's great.

1390
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm pro friend slot.

1391
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 4: It's like seven dollars too.

1392
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 3: I like bring up cost a lot with these things,

1393
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,840
cause like when you talk about friend slop or like

1394
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,920
just some random stuff that you're like, I don't know

1395
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,480
if we're gonna love it, but it'd be nice to

1396
01:02:55,519 --> 01:02:59,119
try it. I think under fifteen is the amount of

1397
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,800
money where it's like it's less than fifteen dollars, I'm

1398
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,599
not going to worry about that. That's the cost of

1399
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:06,280
a movie ticket. It's a cost of like a couple

1400
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,360
of beers at a bar. I will do that for

1401
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,599
an evening, and if we never play it again, that's

1402
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:13,280
worth it. But when the game is like thirty forty bucks,

1403
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,599
that's like, well better be good, you know, Like that's

1404
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,400
that's like a lot of game dollars.

1405
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,599
Speaker 2: Especially games that like really kind of require you to

1406
01:03:21,639 --> 01:03:25,679
have friends to really enjoy, Like it's it's smart.

1407
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,519
Speaker 1: It's easier to say, hey, go come play this with

1408
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:29,360
me at seven bucks.

1409
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, baby, that's right.

1410
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: I think it's.

1411
01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:36,559
Speaker 3: A very alluring price point for you to have one

1412
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:38,679
night with your friends where you try and drive an

1413
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,400
RV together.

1414
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,679
Speaker 4: And there's lots of surprises.

1415
01:03:40,719 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to like spoil them because if people

1416
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,360
are like, oh, I'm kind of interested, the more I say,

1417
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,679
the less don't look it up, because like it's the

1418
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,800
fun part is discovering the stupid things that are in

1419
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,280
this game.

1420
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,239
Speaker 1: That's a good point about the money too.

1421
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,639
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if you're just trying to convince

1422
01:03:55,679 --> 01:03:57,039
friend to get it, it's like an uber to a

1423
01:03:57,079 --> 01:03:58,880
bar is going to cost way more than that.

1424
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: You know, totally let's just hang out.

1425
01:04:01,559 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, and I actually think that is what

1426
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,159
happened and why I played it, is that we were

1427
01:04:05,199 --> 01:04:07,239
all going to go out and then it didn't work out,

1428
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,840
and I was like, listen, I think it's eight bucks whatever,

1429
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,719
it's seven ninety nine for seven dollars and ninety nine cents.

1430
01:04:14,119 --> 01:04:17,039
This is an easy game evening for you to have

1431
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:19,840
fun all night and play this and enjoy it. So

1432
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:24,599
I think that alone is why it's a It's sold

1433
01:04:24,719 --> 01:04:29,639
for me as a quality experience. Does it need work? Absolutely?

1434
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,599
RV bugged out I think once and it Yeah, just

1435
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:37,800
totally couldn't handle the physics and it was a total mess.

1436
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,159
But other than that, I mean, I just think it

1437
01:04:41,159 --> 01:04:43,320
was really fun. We also had the same discovery of

1438
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,360
holding onto the wench. I fell into a snake pit

1439
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,840
and they threw the wench down to save me, and

1440
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,159
I was like, holding on to this wench over a snake.

1441
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: Pit, saying, wench, it's not much winch. What wench? I

1442
01:04:57,599 --> 01:05:03,119
like saying wench, No, the tool as a winch. Say

1443
01:05:03,239 --> 01:05:06,400
the same w I w e. Oh yeah you're from

1444
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,119
the you're both Midwest, Yes, yeah, yeah, but you're saying

1445
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,000
they're different.

1446
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,559
Speaker 6: It's a gym gym winch winch Yeah whench winch. Yeah, No,

1447
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:22,840
they're different things. You're Oh, I know how to spell everything,

1448
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,360
but I don't know how to say anything.

1449
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: That's a good Dan impression.

1450
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: Oh, I got a cool hardware news for you. Uh,

1451
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:45,639
speaking of Dan, Yeah, you played Arc Raiders that with

1452
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:46,400
Giant Bomb. Folks.

1453
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,239
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been playing that a lot with different groups,

1454
01:05:49,239 --> 01:05:51,960
played with Giant Bomb, played with Bomb, play it with

1455
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,119
my sister Kayla. Uh. It is a fascinating game. I've

1456
01:05:56,159 --> 01:05:59,119
never played an extraction shooter before. Every time I've read

1457
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:03,559
about them, I have been, I guess, more disinterested than

1458
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,800
actively turned off at the idea. It's just like, oh, okay,

1459
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,480
so you go into a multiplayer thing and you're just

1460
01:06:08,519 --> 01:06:10,599
getting loot and then you can die and lose everything,

1461
01:06:10,639 --> 01:06:13,159
and it's like that doesn't sound appealing to me. Yeah,

1462
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,960
this one just kind of like it seems like this

1463
01:06:16,039 --> 01:06:19,760
is the one that made it accessible to kind of mainstream,

1464
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,960
you know, or skeptical people of the whole extraction shooter thing.

1465
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:27,000
It is close enough to like a pubg or a

1466
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,760
hell diver's experience, but also has like I can't speak

1467
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,079
to other extraction shooters because this is my first one,

1468
01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:37,000
but I do understand what it is offering that is

1469
01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:40,320
very different than other games of the silk, and that's

1470
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:46,559
it's the interactions with other players. Because it's pvpv so

1471
01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:48,920
it's like the main things you're kind of running into

1472
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,119
and actively getting into gunfights with are arcs, which are

1473
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:55,400
these floating things. It's hornets and wasps. Basically these drones

1474
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,280
and stuffing can shoot out their rotors and stuff. And

1475
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,599
it's even those encounters are really cool, Like there's a

1476
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:01,599
lot of really animations and everything and all these different

1477
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,639
kind of robot arc characters. But then there are also

1478
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,880
other human you know, if you do solos, you're you're

1479
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,920
going to run into solos, you know, or you play

1480
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,000
with up to three, and it does very much change

1481
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:16,360
the way the games play out where it's like if

1482
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:22,800
you're playing trios, they tend to have more violent encounters

1483
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,360
with other players. I don't know if that's just by

1484
01:07:25,519 --> 01:07:28,320
nature of like, okay, people getting a group of three

1485
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,719
together more kind of hardcore about this, or there's more

1486
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,119
kind of tension because there's three people here. But I've

1487
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:36,800
seen enough and played enough like solo as well ay

1488
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,000
and duos to know that like it kind of decreases

1489
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:41,360
the amount of aggression as you're doing that, because like

1490
01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:44,880
Bonk plays largely solo, and I I've watched her play

1491
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,000
a lot, and it's a lot of like you know,

1492
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:49,440
you run into a person there, and you know you

1493
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:51,480
turn on the microphone, it's got prox chat and everything.

1494
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:53,440
But hey, I'm a friendly. Oh don't shoot, No, I'm

1495
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,760
a friendly and like oh oh yeah, okay cool. Do

1496
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,280
you see this over here, like oh yeah, I tried

1497
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,519
to kill that thing or like actually having these moments

1498
01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:01,880
of like hue when interaction and stuff, and then they

1499
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,719
don't kill each other. And then there are times too

1500
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,119
where it's like, oh, okay, you went to extraction extract

1501
01:08:07,199 --> 01:08:08,920
and at the very end, somebody, like right before the

1502
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,559
elevator game kills you even though they told you that

1503
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:14,119
they're friendly and stuff, you approach with their gun out

1504
01:08:14,119 --> 01:08:15,679
and stuff like those moments.

1505
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,239
Speaker 1: Attentions of the end of which thing.

1506
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But it's also prone to like, God, we

1507
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:23,479
did a stream. I implore anyone to check this out.

1508
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,439
It was unprofessional Fridays with me, Jeff Grubb, and Kayla,

1509
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,439
my sister, playing and it was the funniest fucking thing

1510
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,119
I have played in so long because Kayla, I am

1511
01:08:33,199 --> 01:08:35,039
trying to be the voice of reason here and I'm

1512
01:08:35,039 --> 01:08:36,520
trying to like approach other people like.

1513
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: Oh, we're cool, We're cool. Hey, hey, no, no, let's work together.

1514
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:39,800
Do you want some stuff here?

1515
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:44,159
Speaker 2: Go ahead and Kayla is just screaming threats at them

1516
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,560
and just being the most vulgar, just talking about how

1517
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,159
she says, I'm gonna full frontal your ass or I'm

1518
01:08:51,159 --> 01:08:54,479
gonna be your stepmom's mom. Like she doesn't even make sense,

1519
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,279
but like she was, like she would just get in

1520
01:08:57,319 --> 01:08:59,760
people's faces and scream so much that most of these

1521
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,800
the other teams just ran away because I didn't want

1522
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:07,399
to deal with her. SOB would be like apologizing for

1523
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:08,880
I'm sorry about my sister.

1524
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, no, no, she's not gonna hurt you. She's

1525
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:11,359
not gonna hurt you.

1526
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: And people are just taking off and like leaving loot

1527
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:15,399
for us because they were scared of my sister.

1528
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,039
Speaker 1: So that's unreal. She's the what's the character and the

1529
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:22,319
wild card character in Heat at the beginning? Oh uh oh,

1530
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:23,159
what's his name? Yeah?

1531
01:09:23,239 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 2: Not Wayne, not Wayne grow Wayne grow Yeah.

1532
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's that, and it's just like what she is.

1533
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's so many different types of gameplay you

1534
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,840
can get between, like just that peaceful kind of looting

1535
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,920
and extracting of a solo game, but it's also really

1536
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,880
good for like a I've been playing on PC and

1537
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,880
PS five. It is probably the best use case I've

1538
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,560
ever seen for the PS five mike situation, where it's

1539
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,960
like you've got the mute button right there. You've got

1540
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,479
like this game doesn't require if you're playing solos, you

1541
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,039
don't need a headset on. Like I'm someone who really

1542
01:09:52,039 --> 01:09:54,640
doesn't like wearing headsets when I'm playing games. So it's

1543
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,239
just the thing where it's like, oh, you see someone

1544
01:09:56,279 --> 01:09:58,600
in the distance or someone in the same building as you,

1545
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,800
you just unmute. You're like, hey, I'm a friend, Like no, yeah,

1546
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:02,600
go ahead, there's some loop back there. Okay, cool, see

1547
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,319
all right, don't shoot, you know, like and then new

1548
01:10:04,399 --> 01:10:06,840
mute again. So it's it's really really good.

1549
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: For that yeah again.

1550
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes you will have like you know, doing a trios thing.

1551
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,880
You run into another trio and then it's all six

1552
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,760
of you fighting against some huge you know, this ambastion creature,

1553
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,600
this mother like all these these leapers, these big robots

1554
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,279
and stuff like that, and it's you know, it's the

1555
01:10:22,319 --> 01:10:25,319
best case of like emergent gameplay I feel, where it's

1556
01:10:25,319 --> 01:10:28,159
like everyone's kind of getting their own stories and it's

1557
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:30,359
really unlike things you would see and like, you know,

1558
01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:32,520
a pubg a Fortnite, a hell divers. You know, you

1559
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:36,239
see something, you're shooting it. It's it's more nuanced here

1560
01:10:36,279 --> 01:10:36,960
in a really cool way.

1561
01:10:37,039 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1562
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, the social experimentation there is like the compelling thing.

1563
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:46,239
I think technically the ability to do that and escape

1564
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:50,840
from Tarkov exists, but I would say percentage wise ninety

1565
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:53,000
percent of the time in Tarkov you're you're fighting the

1566
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,800
other people, like right away. The fact that they created

1567
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,600
this game in this world in which it kind of

1568
01:10:59,039 --> 01:11:02,720
you can that's an option to be not pacifist, but

1569
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,439
like team up is really cool, and yeah, that's I agree.

1570
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,680
I think this is it's a pretty accessible take on

1571
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,560
the genre, especially compared to some of the more hardcore ones. Yeah.

1572
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 2: I can't tell you the amount of times of like

1573
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,239
turn to bonk and be like wow, I've never had

1574
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:16,600
an experience like that where it's like me and Bank

1575
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,359
will be playing together and we'll run into like another

1576
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:20,039
couple and we'll just like be like, oh shit, are

1577
01:11:20,039 --> 01:11:21,479
we about to die? And then we talked for a

1578
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,800
second and then we're like, oh, now we're just kind

1579
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,720
of working together and stuff and like oh cool. Then

1580
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,039
we go our separate ways and everything's like, that's fucking cool.

1581
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:28,399
I've never had anything quite like that.

1582
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, gamifying trust is a really cool thing or distrust,

1583
01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:37,199
like the I guess among us sort of traded on

1584
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:39,239
that when it was blowing up in a different way

1585
01:11:39,279 --> 01:11:43,520
in a social, like purely social situation. This the array

1586
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,119
of objectives that you have to complete or the options

1587
01:11:48,119 --> 01:11:50,520
to complete, and like the a number of factors that

1588
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,640
can happen once you do team up can just make

1589
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,239
the tension either escalate or they can maybe mitigate it

1590
01:11:55,279 --> 01:11:57,439
in some respects because then you get through a bunch

1591
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,479
of tough fights, but you still have to extract with

1592
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,800
those people, and sometimes that at the end is like.

1593
01:12:03,079 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: Of just there, like yeah, you all have guns, you're

1594
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,479
all just waiting.

1595
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get like a genuine I felt a

1596
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:14,399
genuine sense of betrayal playing that game with just a stranger. Yeah,

1597
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,520
it's like it's like, oh okay, it makes Journey look

1598
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:21,000
like infantile and restaurant on joking, but it's a similar

1599
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,079
thing where it's like you can have a meaningful experience

1600
01:12:23,079 --> 01:12:25,199
with someone and then if they fuck you over at

1601
01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:28,079
the end, it genuinely I'm like, I thought we.

1602
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: Had something I don't like them as a person. Yeah,

1603
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:30,800
to be.

1604
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:35,600
Speaker 1: Clear, I have been that the person betraying people fuck

1605
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:41,720
you no, mainly to like see how it worked at

1606
01:12:42,119 --> 01:12:42,560
the beginning.

1607
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 2: If there were one thing I would criticize it for,

1608
01:12:47,079 --> 01:12:50,439
it's that in a genre that I've heard is mostly

1609
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,800
about getting loot and hanging on to it and getting

1610
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,680
better loot, it's I find that, like I'm constantly just

1611
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,880
having to deal with inventory management and like I don't know,

1612
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,560
I've got a million fucking pieces of plastic and rubber

1613
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,319
and metal and wires and tubes, and it's like I'm

1614
01:13:04,319 --> 01:13:06,840
not super sure what I need to you know, like

1615
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:09,079
there's certain obvious things to level up, and you can

1616
01:13:09,159 --> 01:13:10,920
level up your guns and your kind of work benches

1617
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,520
and all that stuff, and there's certain quest tied to things.

1618
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,680
So like there's some obvious ones, and it's got smart

1619
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,479
stuff with like tracking certain things you need in the field.

1620
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,960
But ultimately I've spent a lot of time just looking

1621
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,760
at a grid of shit and like old metal and

1622
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,800
rubber and being like I just want to get rid

1623
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,399
How do I just clear up more space here?

1624
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:27,520
Speaker 1: You know?

1625
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,560
Speaker 2: What can I get rid of? So that stuff is

1626
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,399
kind of laborious in between, but I don't know the

1627
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,960
special moments while you're you know, in the shit are

1628
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:35,680
worth it.

1629
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't want to forgive it for

1630
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,359
the inventory just by just because that is a big

1631
01:13:41,359 --> 01:13:45,960
thing in extraction shooters. Because I agree, I do think

1632
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,640
they a lot of the new I think a lot

1633
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,279
of the loop could be more interesting, more like compelling,

1634
01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:54,920
just on at face at first glance, and I would

1635
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,600
say like they do have some good quality of life

1636
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,239
things for sure, in terms of of how to rearrange

1637
01:14:01,239 --> 01:14:04,479
your inventory and stacking certain items and whatnot, but they

1638
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,359
still definitely have a waste to go with that, because yeah,

1639
01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:10,319
it's not are you playing mouse and keyboard or controller?

1640
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 2: Me to myself, I'm mainly playing on PS five, but

1641
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,920
I cried a little bit of PC. It's kind of

1642
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,319
I kind of been doing a little mouse and keyboard

1643
01:14:18,359 --> 01:14:19,880
for inventory management and I switched to control.

1644
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, the actual game. That's what I was going to recommend,

1645
01:14:22,079 --> 01:14:25,600
because like on PC, those games are so much more

1646
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,119
doable between the actual runs because you're you can just

1647
01:14:29,159 --> 01:14:31,960
click and drag stuff right click, left click, et cetera. Scroll.

1648
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,159
I don't know. Time tails all is time that I

1649
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:38,880
think keyboard mouse are better for that kind of stuff.

1650
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 2: But which to go back, I'm very excited to hear

1651
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,359
what you think once the Steam machine and controller come out,

1652
01:14:44,359 --> 01:14:46,560
because that, like that was the best like mouse on

1653
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,000
a TV experience I've ever had by a long shot.

1654
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of that, I tried the mouse mode of

1655
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,039
a switch to. I did not love it. It's I

1656
01:14:55,079 --> 01:14:57,359
don't know when I would actually just use that, Like

1657
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,000
I'm not going to play Cyberpunk or I'm not gonna.

1658
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: Play Metric Prime. It's the thing where you know, by

1659
01:15:03,039 --> 01:15:04,880
the time Switch Too is done, there will be seven

1660
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,439
games that fucking utilize it.

1661
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:07,039
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1662
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: One of them was Mario Paint on Nso you know it's.

1663
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, But that's good to hear that.

1664
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,359
Speaker 3: The is it an accessibility thing where it's opening it

1665
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:17,079
up for.

1666
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 4: It could be in other ways to utilize it.

1667
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 3: To me, like that has value right for other people

1668
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,520
to be able to be able to play in different ways.

1669
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,960
I just don't see a good reason that I would

1670
01:15:31,039 --> 01:15:31,399
use it.

1671
01:15:32,119 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 2: I thought with the Switch Too. I've thought about it

1672
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,520
in that like I think it'd be cool like on

1673
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,560
a plane and if I want to play Metroid and

1674
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,960
like set it up, you know, use the kickstand on

1675
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,840
the tray and then play with mouse and keyboard. I

1676
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,079
would at least try that, but I could also see

1677
01:15:45,119 --> 01:15:46,840
myself doing it for fifteen minutes and being like, oh,

1678
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:47,640
play with controller.

1679
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what world it would be more

1680
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:52,039
than a gimmick.

1681
01:15:52,399 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: Yeah for me, but dragon Drag. We're all playing drag

1682
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,640
and drive esports, right, wheelchair basketball?

1683
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: No are you playing that? No, no one's playing it.

1684
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 4: But we are playing Simpsons Fortnite.

1685
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, married did you check this out or just no?

1686
01:16:13,399 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 3: But I'm curious. Oh, because obviously it's Simpson's I know

1687
01:16:19,079 --> 01:16:20,720
it's just gonna make funy transition.

1688
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:23,199
Speaker 1: No, I didn't have a transition, Dan.

1689
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like really curious about it because I love

1690
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:32,119
the Simpsons game and I always thought that the Simpsons.

1691
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 4: Is such a good Uh.

1692
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:37,399
Speaker 3: It's just a really it's a really good thing to

1693
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:40,079
have as a video game format because it's so playful

1694
01:16:40,079 --> 01:16:42,319
and stupid. But I don't know how they did.

1695
01:16:42,199 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 2: It historically, Like they have really run the gamut between

1696
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,760
like some of the worst games I've ever played are

1697
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,760
Simpsons games and then like some pretty good experiences. I

1698
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,880
won't say, like I don't think there's an all time

1699
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,239
great since like the Arcade game. Yes, everyone has fun

1700
01:16:56,279 --> 01:16:59,119
experiences of I don't know, you play with Infinite Quarters

1701
01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:00,399
or whatever. Un Free played it's.

1702
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 4: The pretty base one, the driving one.

1703
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 2: So that's the hit and run. I never went all

1704
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,880
the way through it, I know. I don't know why

1705
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,319
I didn't. Like, I loved it was in game PPS

1706
01:17:09,319 --> 01:17:11,800
two and every I just never played it, I guess

1707
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,680
not Virtual Bart Bart versus Space Mutants, all these things.

1708
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,279
Even the Simpsons game for the movie, like Virtual Bart

1709
01:17:18,279 --> 01:17:20,399
had the egg throwing thing, that tomato thing was good,

1710
01:17:21,359 --> 01:17:24,039
but like I always wanted to love Simpsons games more

1711
01:17:24,079 --> 01:17:26,760
than I did. I remember there was a PC game

1712
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:30,359
called Virtual Springfield, and I hesitated to even call it

1713
01:17:30,359 --> 01:17:31,840
a game. It came on a CD that looked like

1714
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,560
a Homer donut and you put it in and it

1715
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,840
was just the most fucking like mid to late nineties

1716
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,159
CD ROM thing of just kind of like it wasn't FMV.

1717
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,520
It was just you could kind of walk through Springfield

1718
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,159
like it was a mist game or something, and just

1719
01:17:47,199 --> 01:17:49,880
the idea of like exploring that space that I loved

1720
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,960
so much from the show, being like, oh wow, I

1721
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,560
never thought about how like, to get from the Simpsons

1722
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,479
house to most Haven you had to go down here.

1723
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,079
I didn't know this was by hero. Oh that's what

1724
01:17:58,159 --> 01:17:59,720
the nuclear plant is. And I get to walk around

1725
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,039
like that was such a novelty and I feel like, again,

1726
01:18:03,079 --> 01:18:05,520
not having played a Hit and Run or road Rage

1727
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,359
or whatever, I had never really experienced that in the

1728
01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:11,359
game as well as Fortnite. Here it's Fortnite. First of all,

1729
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:13,199
the opening, like when the you know, the bus is

1730
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:15,640
going through, it's the full on Simpsons going through the

1731
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,000
clouds thing, but it says like Battle Royale and you

1732
01:18:18,079 --> 01:18:20,880
drop down out of the it's duff is slurp in this.

1733
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,119
But all the logo and everything looks the same, and

1734
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:26,319
it's just okay, Well, there's the power plant, there's Burns's mansion,

1735
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,600
there's downtown, there's the Jebediah Springfield in the City Hall

1736
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,399
and everything. Here's Evergreen Terrace and Flanders House and everything.

1737
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:37,199
It's just so fucking cool and like, visually it all

1738
01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:40,159
looks incredible. It all looks just like it looks like

1739
01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:43,640
the Simpsons, but you're also you know, you're playing a

1740
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,960
solid snake and running into Flanders's house and fucking Goku

1741
01:18:47,039 --> 01:18:48,920
comes in you gotta shoot him with a gun. It's

1742
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,319
just insane fever dream that I can't help but laugh at.

1743
01:18:52,359 --> 01:18:55,239
But also it's Fortnite, so it's a really good fucking game.

1744
01:18:56,079 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 3: And they do can you go in the house?

1745
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you go into the house? Isn't Yeah,

1746
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:01,439
you can go into the house, And like you can

1747
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,760
go up to the Simpsons couch and press X and

1748
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,680
you're sitting on the couch. So I was solid snake

1749
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,880
sitting on the couch with Kayla who is vegeta and

1750
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:09,960
we're doing like a couch gag together, and like Marge

1751
01:19:10,039 --> 01:19:11,960
is walking around. You can talk to them and get

1752
01:19:12,239 --> 01:19:14,560
missions from them, and there's so many gags, like the

1753
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,720
people who worked on this so clearly understood, you know,

1754
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,479
the Simpsons and everything where it's like it's I'm sure

1755
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,920
there are a million gags and stuff that happened in

1756
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:26,239
seasons twelve through fucking six hundred whatever they're on now,

1757
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,079
but it's going for the ones where it's like, Okay,

1758
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:31,680
you see a rake on the ground and it's like,

1759
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,119
I bet they do the thing, and then you walk

1760
01:19:34,199 --> 01:19:37,520
up and the rake happens, and it's like all these

1761
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,439
little bits and jokes and everything, and Blinky the Three

1762
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,239
Eyed Fish is one of the items that gives you

1763
01:19:42,279 --> 01:19:45,039
a boost and stuff, and like yeah, yeah, so yeah.

1764
01:19:45,039 --> 01:19:46,640
Instead of Doff, it's just Slurp. So you get like

1765
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,600
six packs of Slurp and stuff like that and it

1766
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:52,439
gives you boosts and it's just incredibly well put together

1767
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,760
stuff that like, as a Fortnite fan, this all works

1768
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,720
great as a Battle Royale game, and as a Simpsons fan,

1769
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,359
it is such a good love letter to the Simpsons. Like,

1770
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,760
it's hard to say that it's not the best Simpsons

1771
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,399
video game experience ever. Again, I haven't played Hit and Run,

1772
01:20:08,399 --> 01:20:11,520
but it's it's it's perfect. It's so much better and

1773
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,680
bigger in scope than I could have expected. The whole

1774
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:14,760
fucking map is just spring.

1775
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,520
Speaker 1: Here's my question. I don't know if you two like

1776
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:21,880
have a definitive answer. My impression is that the crossover

1777
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,800
between Simpsons fans and Fortnite demographics would would not have

1778
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:27,279
been that.

1779
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: Huge, right because the Simpsons isn't really hot now and fortant.

1780
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just surprised. Like everybody talked to you

1781
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,439
says the same same thing. It's like super faithful and

1782
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,319
like just packed to the brim with Easter egg kind

1783
01:20:38,319 --> 01:20:40,279
of stuff. But like someone was saying, maybe it's like

1784
01:20:40,279 --> 01:20:40,680
you know, like.

1785
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:45,239
Speaker 2: Well the children even know the That's the thing I've

1786
01:20:45,279 --> 01:20:47,520
been thinking about with Fortnite a lot, is that, like, yes,

1787
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:51,560
they do have modern stuff where they'll have Sabrina Carpenter

1788
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,920
or K Pop Demon Hunters or something in there, so

1789
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,520
they're smart about that, but also you look at how

1790
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,880
much shit that is, Like here's Ellen Ripley from Alien,

1791
01:21:00,079 --> 01:21:03,800
Here's the Terminator, here's the Simpsons, here's like, you know,

1792
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:08,319
fucking Mark Hamill from the original trilogy. It's they kind

1793
01:21:08,319 --> 01:21:10,840
of are casting a wide net here, and I think

1794
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,720
somebody derive for me that, like, oh, it's a lot

1795
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,520
of people that own these ips of like old classic

1796
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,079
sci fi action whatever things. It's like, this is a

1797
01:21:18,119 --> 01:21:21,600
way to introduce kids into this old Yeah.

1798
01:21:21,399 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: You automatically get like cool points just by being in

1799
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,479
for a punt right night, I feel like.

1800
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like but also modern current things again, K

1801
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,159
Pop Demon Hunters huge, they're in there.

1802
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:30,399
Speaker 1: You know.

1803
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it really is a kind of staggering achievement

1804
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,399
what they've done with this game. The fact that it

1805
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,159
is still a really good video game, and it is

1806
01:21:38,279 --> 01:21:43,279
just objectively the wildest roster of IP in video game history.

1807
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:45,119
It's like not even fucking cloakse you know.

1808
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I've I've heard the same thing. I've heard

1809
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,600
people who they're like I was talking to Bert's he

1810
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,319
was playing it and showing his daughter because like he

1811
01:21:54,399 --> 01:21:56,760
understood all the references. I don't know the her knowledge

1812
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,199
of the Simpsons, but I also imagine there's a decent

1813
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:01,079
amount of parents that are like showing their kids stuff

1814
01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:02,279
in there too, which is kind of cool.

1815
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,199
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, Ellen Ripley and stuff like that.

1816
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:06,800
That'd be so cool. Like a kid who's like kind

1817
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:08,800
of getting into sci fi or horror something. Oh yeah,

1818
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,199
oh that's from Alien. Do you want to see that? Yeah,

1819
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:13,000
unless you're Jeff Backler and you don't let your kids

1820
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,479
see anything cool until he turns thirty.

1821
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:16,079
Speaker 1: Oh is that happening?

1822
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ja Yeah, his son's like a twenty four

1823
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,760
year old hockey player and he can't see Jaws.

1824
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:21,199
Speaker 1: Wow.

1825
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really Yeah.

1826
01:22:24,039 --> 01:22:27,319
Speaker 4: Jaws, that's just a rite of passage.

1827
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the coolest movie you can see when you're six,

1828
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,359
And you should see when you're six.

1829
01:22:31,359 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: I haven't thirty four, and it's still one of my

1830
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,359
top five movies all the time. And I said, yeah, yeah, No,

1831
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,000
I have this conversation frequently with him. It's insane. Is

1832
01:22:38,319 --> 01:22:39,479
Backlar a shitty dad?

1833
01:22:40,319 --> 01:22:43,399
Speaker 2: He's a bad person, I think first and foremost. And

1834
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,000
I think that translates to the dad thing. Yeah, and

1835
01:22:46,039 --> 01:22:48,119
you haven't even met a son. It sounds a I've

1836
01:22:48,159 --> 01:22:51,760
met him a handful of times. Oh really? Oh yeah,

1837
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,560
so we play hockey together? How much it's missing from

1838
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:54,600
your house after he showed up?

1839
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,159
Speaker 1: No? Wait, have I told you the story when they

1840
01:22:56,159 --> 01:22:57,920
came over a couple of years ago? What do you do?

1841
01:22:58,319 --> 01:23:00,359
They all three of them came over and they were

1842
01:23:00,359 --> 01:23:02,239
in our kitchen for like, you know, you guys have

1843
01:23:02,279 --> 01:23:03,680
been in my apartment. The kitchen is kind of the

1844
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:08,720
first place you go. Not ten seconds in, we're we're

1845
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,439
starting to catch up, like barely, like took a few

1846
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,159
breaths to catch up, and he just goes, I'm bored

1847
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,479
back and show them where the window?

1848
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,520
Speaker 4: Yeah give him a yo yo.

1849
01:23:21,119 --> 01:23:23,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the funniest thing. I wasn't even mad.

1850
01:23:23,119 --> 01:23:24,399
I was just like, this is hilarious.

1851
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,279
Speaker 3: He's just into this ball and cup. Now, yeah, you

1852
01:23:27,359 --> 01:23:28,720
gotta give him something.

1853
01:23:31,039 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 1: Not ball and cup but ball x pit. Mary, Oh god,

1854
01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:39,319
I'm fucking it's pretty good. It's the cinnamon orange clove

1855
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:40,159
tea I drank.

1856
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:47,600
Speaker 3: That's not alcohol. Ball x Pit is a game I

1857
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,600
heard other people talking about, and so I was like,

1858
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:57,199
I am susceptible to impressionism. I needed to know about

1859
01:23:57,239 --> 01:23:57,600
this game.

1860
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 4: I think I got influence.

1861
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha interesting.

1862
01:24:03,319 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 3: I don't think impressionism is the right use of that word,

1863
01:24:06,199 --> 01:24:09,359
but I got a ball pit.

1864
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 4: This is a.

1865
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 3: Vampire Survivors meets Balls with a Z. If you ever

1866
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,119
played that on your phone?

1867
01:24:18,319 --> 01:24:19,079
Speaker 4: Balls with a Z?

1868
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:21,199
Speaker 2: Wait, you're not talking about balls three D for the

1869
01:24:21,239 --> 01:24:22,840
Second Genesis and Superintendo?

1870
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:23,159
Speaker 1: Are you?

1871
01:24:23,399 --> 01:24:24,279
Speaker 2: Balls three D with a Z?

1872
01:24:25,039 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 1: Wait? Are a phone game? Ripping up balls three D?

1873
01:24:28,359 --> 01:24:32,359
Speaker 2: I don't know now, ball I recognize what balls with

1874
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:32,640
a Z.

1875
01:24:33,159 --> 01:24:35,319
Speaker 4: Balls with a Z is a phone act.

1876
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,520
Speaker 1: I forgot about balls.

1877
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 3: A ball balls coming at you, and you wanted to

1878
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,680
ricochet and hit as many balls as possible and the

1879
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,000
more that it hits. Kind of like brick Breaker.

1880
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,079
Speaker 4: But like, okay, it's a bit more.

1881
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 3: Strategic. I feel like brick breakers just like, hurry up

1882
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:56,239
and shoot?

1883
01:24:56,359 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Uh more than balls? Three D The Battle of the Balls.

1884
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,119
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, more than the balls THREDY the Battle of

1885
01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:03,560
the Balls.

1886
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: With a Z. It's with a Z. I I'm having

1887
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,159
one of those moments where I I know for one

1888
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:12,880
hundred for a fact that I have not accessed this

1889
01:25:13,239 --> 01:25:17,880
wrinkle in my brain in probably thirty years. Is I

1890
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:22,800
don't think something yes from or yeah. I don't know

1891
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,800
what emotion this is. There's got to be a German

1892
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,520
phrase for it. Sorry, but ball x pit.

1893
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:36,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so half Vampire Survivors, half brick breaker balls, phone balls,

1894
01:25:37,359 --> 01:25:41,079
phone balls. So you are auto shooting. You can turn

1895
01:25:41,119 --> 01:25:43,560
it off into like manual shooting. But I don't know

1896
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,159
why you would do that. Well, yeah, I don't know.

1897
01:25:46,279 --> 01:25:51,279
And so auto shooting. As you collect the balls from

1898
01:25:51,319 --> 01:25:54,239
the things that you have killed, you level up with

1899
01:25:54,359 --> 01:25:57,800
three options. This is very Vampire Survivors, right, And then

1900
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,479
you continue to shoot. But the macayx of the pit

1901
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,880
is what's interesting is like they're constantly shooting stuff at

1902
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,119
you and you have to again strategically try and get

1903
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,000
it in an area where the ball is just going

1904
01:26:12,079 --> 01:26:14,279
to go crazy and bounce back and forth.

1905
01:26:14,399 --> 01:26:16,359
Speaker 4: All inside of this space.

1906
01:26:17,239 --> 01:26:18,039
Speaker 3: Doing that is like.

1907
01:26:18,079 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 4: Quite rewarding and feels really good.

1908
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 3: And then for some other reason, when you've finished the

1909
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,880
game and beaten it, and that feels really good. When

1910
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:27,159
you get all the way to the end and you've

1911
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,199
killed the ball. I think there's two mini bosses that

1912
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:33,000
you complete, whether different challenges. It ends in a boss fight.

1913
01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 2: It's a timeline on the side that shows you correct.

1914
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 3: That tells you when you're complaint, and when you finally

1915
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,760
beat it, and that felt really good. It unlocks new levels,

1916
01:26:41,079 --> 01:26:43,720
new characters. That's what's actually interesting about it. It's not

1917
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,720
just beating the game. It's beating the game on like

1918
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,199
different character sets that are a lot more difficult, on

1919
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:51,039
different terrain sets that are difficult. And then it has

1920
01:26:51,039 --> 01:26:53,680
another area that's just straight up farming, and that was

1921
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,000
very different to me, and I was very shocked by this.

1922
01:26:56,119 --> 01:27:00,680
You like unlock spaces, you plant stuff like wheat and stone,

1923
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,359
you know, plant stone, but you I don't have to

1924
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,520
I don't have to explain myself to you, sweet and

1925
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,880
wood and stone. And then you send your little brick

1926
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:14,720
breaker guys out on an angle and they they farm.

1927
01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: It's like there's a timer for like your your farm

1928
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,920
or your harvesting time and stuff like that. So like

1929
01:27:20,119 --> 01:27:21,600
there are ways that you can like, Okay, I need

1930
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:22,920
to get a bunch of weeks, so I'm gonna make

1931
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,359
this corridor here and they're back here. And yeah, I

1932
01:27:26,399 --> 01:27:29,039
really liked that idea. I thought that was a fun thing, cause,

1933
01:27:29,039 --> 01:27:31,319
like I really did like just the the actual like missions,

1934
01:27:31,399 --> 01:27:34,239
like the arcade style, just because they do clever things

1935
01:27:34,279 --> 01:27:35,960
with that. Like there's the one character that's the two

1936
01:27:36,079 --> 01:27:38,159
characters and they kind of like miror each other's balls

1937
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:38,720
and they.

1938
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 3: Silhouette and there's one person that only shoots balls from

1939
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:46,399
the back, and so you're constantly where you're aiming is

1940
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:51,319
actually backwards because everything shoots from the behind of the game.

1941
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's got that Vampire Survivors thing where it's like, Okay,

1942
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,079
I've got this build going where it's like I've got

1943
01:27:57,079 --> 01:27:59,439
these ghost balls that like will go through things, and

1944
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,039
so I'm when I try to get all these things,

1945
01:28:01,079 --> 01:28:04,319
like of all different powers together that work together. Well.

1946
01:28:04,319 --> 01:28:06,479
So it's very Vampire Survivors in that way, which I'm

1947
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,159
a huge sucker for. And I do like base building

1948
01:28:09,159 --> 01:28:11,319
stuff too, and I like Rogue Light stuff, so like

1949
01:28:11,359 --> 01:28:13,960
it was saying all the right stuff for me, and

1950
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,840
then when I got to the base building stuff. I

1951
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,039
still like this game a lot, but the base building

1952
01:28:19,079 --> 01:28:22,439
thing just didn't. I was I've never gotten excited about

1953
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:23,920
it when I got back, like I think a great

1954
01:28:24,039 --> 01:28:27,039
Rogue Light is like you know, a Hades or something.

1955
01:28:27,079 --> 01:28:28,760
Where I get back to the hub and I'm like, okay,

1956
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,039
let me go, like who can.

1957
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,399
Speaker 1: I talk to? What can I cash in? What can

1958
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:32,199
I upgrade here?

1959
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:32,520
Speaker 5: This?

1960
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,039
Speaker 2: When I get back and I'm like, I guess I'll

1961
01:28:34,079 --> 01:28:36,600
put a week thing here and then I'll bounce them

1962
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,479
around like it's I did not love the in between

1963
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:40,279
stuff in this game.

1964
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't care for the in between either. I think

1965
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,680
it's an interesting choice and it's nice that they're testing

1966
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,880
it out every time you see another Vampire Survivor esque game,

1967
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,279
and I do think this is the most different of

1968
01:28:51,319 --> 01:28:54,439
the Vampire Survivors they've They've made so many Vampire Survivors,

1969
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:58,760
but this is a very different take on it. I

1970
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,479
got really excited by all the ideas here. They're trying

1971
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,119
a lot of stuff, and a lot of it works

1972
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:07,239
and some of it doesn't. I don't think, in my opinion,

1973
01:29:07,239 --> 01:29:09,880
that the farming works. I don't get excited about it,

1974
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,119
and I don't want to do it, but I think

1975
01:29:11,159 --> 01:29:16,760
it's a neat test. I also think some of the binding,

1976
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,680
so when you choose two different items you can merge

1977
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,079
them into like a super item, some of them are

1978
01:29:22,199 --> 01:29:25,840
just so much better than others. It's really hard to

1979
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,000
not be tempted to go with the same build each time,

1980
01:29:29,039 --> 01:29:33,479
because certain builds are just freaking insane and other ones

1981
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,760
I think are a little bit more blase. I have

1982
01:29:36,039 --> 01:29:37,520
a lot more to play with it. I think I've

1983
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:44,279
only unlocked like ten or so characters and five different lands,

1984
01:29:44,319 --> 01:29:46,760
maybe four different lands, So I'd really like to play

1985
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,119
a little bit more of it. But I will say,

1986
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:51,279
like when it comes to Vampire Survivors, I would have

1987
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:53,600
liked to see.

1988
01:29:53,359 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 4: More like fucking insane shit on the screen.

1989
01:29:56,279 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 3: Obviously, ball x Pit does get to be fantastic on screen,

1990
01:30:01,399 --> 01:30:05,159
but you're never it's never as crazy as Vampire Survivors were.

1991
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:08,000
Like every square inch of that screen is an arrow

1992
01:30:08,239 --> 01:30:10,840
or like a dart or some magical force field. This

1993
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:14,239
is just like you're shooting balls wildly at the screen

1994
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,920
and hoping that they kill all of your enemies through

1995
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:17,640
their bouncing.

1996
01:30:18,039 --> 01:30:19,119
Speaker 4: It's very satisfying.

1997
01:30:19,119 --> 01:30:21,239
Speaker 1: Nevertheless, did you play Megabok.

1998
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:26,119
Speaker 3: No, but I have watched people play megabunk on Twitch,

1999
01:30:26,199 --> 01:30:27,640
so I know what that one.

2000
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 1: Is as well.

2001
01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: I think it's one of my favorites the year. I

2002
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,039
think what you're feeling it is. I think if you

2003
01:30:34,039 --> 01:30:35,680
try it, it's another one of those cheap ones too.

2004
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:37,920
I think it's like, yeah, it's less than ten bucks, yea,

2005
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:39,199
marry you.

2006
01:30:39,359 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 4: But it looks like it's less than ten bucks, you

2007
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:41,399
know what I mean.

2008
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like playing it like it's it really is

2009
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:48,119
probably my favorite. Vampire Survivors, Like, I love it. I

2010
01:30:48,119 --> 01:30:49,279
think you should check it out for a Game of

2011
01:30:49,319 --> 01:30:49,600
the Year.

2012
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm loving the general fact that that's becoming

2013
01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:55,039
like a genre into its genres.

2014
01:30:55,159 --> 01:30:56,199
Speaker 4: Vampire Survivors.

2015
01:30:56,319 --> 01:30:59,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, auto shooters are interesting and the ability to like

2016
01:31:00,119 --> 01:31:02,880
push the limits of what you think games should be

2017
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,000
able to do. Like, remember the first time you played

2018
01:31:05,039 --> 01:31:06,600
Vampire Survivors there was just so.

2019
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 4: Much shit on the screen. You were like, I think

2020
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:09,439
I broke it.

2021
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:15,319
Speaker 3: And it's just fun to have that control in a game,

2022
01:31:15,399 --> 01:31:18,479
even if it's intended it doesn't feel like it. I

2023
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,680
feel like Megabonk gives you that vibe as well, where

2024
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,840
it's like you shouldn't be able to do this, but

2025
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,640
it it lets you break it.

2026
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but yeah yeah, Mary play Mega Bonk. It's

2027
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,640
very good. Okay, I'm going to try ball x Pig

2028
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:39,319
download it. Dan, you also played MK Legacy Collection.

2029
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:43,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just fucking love Mortal Kombat. It's I think

2030
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,079
mount rushmore of video game series that have like changed

2031
01:31:47,119 --> 01:31:50,680
my life. I think it is Mario Medal Year, Zelda,

2032
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:54,039
and Mortal Kombat. And so for someone like me, it

2033
01:31:54,239 --> 01:31:56,079
just loves the history of this game and all of

2034
01:31:56,119 --> 01:31:58,840
its weird lore and weird characters and everything. And like

2035
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:01,960
the era that this focuses on is extremely just the

2036
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,479
sweet spot for me. Like I have been into it

2037
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,760
from the beginning, including like the more recent ones and

2038
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,399
the PS two era and all that stuff, but like

2039
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,600
this era of it becoming like the biggest thing on

2040
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,000
the planet was what fascinated me the most.

2041
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 1: It's ninety two to three, so first game one, wait, wait,

2042
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,840
this this collection, well, it's like well, I mean when

2043
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:26,199
I think Tournament Edition, well.

2044
01:32:26,079 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 2: I mean there are some like GVA ones on there

2045
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,399
or anything, but that those are kind of more like

2046
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,640
Easter Egg, like they've got special forces and mythologies, and

2047
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,640
those are kind of like bonus add ons. I think

2048
01:32:35,039 --> 01:32:37,880
the important ones to me are from Mortal Kombat one,

2049
01:32:38,039 --> 01:32:40,760
Who Ultimate, Mortal Kombat three, and then Mortal kom about

2050
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,640
four I kind of fell off because it went away

2051
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,680
from the digitized actors and went into three D and

2052
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,239
at that point, Virtual Fighter Tech and other things like

2053
01:32:47,239 --> 01:32:52,399
that were just more interesting games. But the documentary so well,

2054
01:32:52,399 --> 01:32:54,600
first I'll touch on the game stuff real quick. It

2055
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,199
is it's incredible, like the amount of stuff you can

2056
01:32:57,239 --> 01:32:59,560
do in terms of like going into the individual games

2057
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,399
and saying, like Unlimited Fatality Timer, you can have the

2058
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,800
move list on the screen, which like that was always

2059
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,760
like one of the things that made Mortal Kombat harder

2060
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,199
to just pick up and play with someone who hadn't

2061
01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:10,960
played before, is you just constantly be looking at a

2062
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,000
move list if someone didn't know, Like, sure, I know

2063
01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:14,800
all of sub Zero's moves, but if I'm playing against

2064
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,000
a friend that like doesn't know, okay, well this is

2065
01:33:17,039 --> 01:33:19,119
down forward whatever, But having it on the screen the

2066
01:33:19,159 --> 01:33:22,720
whole time helps a ton all the different CRT filters

2067
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,119
and arcade filters and Save States and all that stuff.

2068
01:33:25,159 --> 01:33:27,920
It just makes it a fatality trainers and all this stuff.

2069
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,920
It just it's a great way to just take in

2070
01:33:30,079 --> 01:33:32,760
everything these games offered back then. But the thing I've

2071
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,279
really been diving into the last few days is the

2072
01:33:35,279 --> 01:33:38,159
documentary stuff. And this is Digital Eclipse who did like

2073
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:40,600
you know, the Atari fifty stuff that is like a

2074
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,680
really really cool way of I don't want to say

2075
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,680
it's a gamifying a documentary because there's not much of

2076
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,760
a game to it. It's just like a timeline. It's

2077
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,840
an interactive timeline that you can go between and like

2078
01:33:49,239 --> 01:33:52,479
scroll through you know, original drawings of like here's the

2079
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,840
initial concepts for these characters. Here's the first notes about

2080
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:00,039
you know who Sonia could be. There's cool like this

2081
01:34:00,039 --> 01:34:02,680
one clip I saw last night was incredible of you know,

2082
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:05,159
the scorpion spear and the get over here thing is

2083
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:08,520
like the most iconic move in Mortal Kombat history. And

2084
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,479
there's literally footage of the actor I think it was

2085
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:16,279
Daniel Piscina playing a scorpion and Ed Boone, this twenty

2086
01:34:16,279 --> 01:34:18,119
sentthing year old Ed Boone. It's like, you know what

2087
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:20,760
would be fucking cool. What if you like threw out

2088
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,079
like you had a spear and it had like a

2089
01:34:22,199 --> 01:34:23,359
rope on the end of it, and then you like

2090
01:34:23,359 --> 01:34:25,880
pull him towards like you see the moment that ed

2091
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,720
Boone thought like, oh shit, this would be sweet, and

2092
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:31,720
then you see scorpion and full scorpion gears like okay, yeah,

2093
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,560
and then he does the fucking movement that you know,

2094
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,399
like it for something like me, it's like this is

2095
01:34:35,399 --> 01:34:38,560
the coolest shit. And so I've just been like ravenously

2096
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,560
devouring all this documentary stuff and every photo and note

2097
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,279
and flyer and all this stuff. And I realized now,

2098
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:48,840
like Ben Hansen is for a fucking fifteen years been

2099
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,880
yelling at me to watch all these documentaries and stuff

2100
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,560
and his Double Fine stuff and all that shit, and

2101
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,960
like I've always been like, I'm not interested. I'm not interested,

2102
01:34:55,039 --> 01:34:57,439
I don't care, I'm not interested. Turns out it just

2103
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:59,119
has to be about a game I care about. I

2104
01:34:59,119 --> 01:35:02,159
don't get a shit about games. I fucking love Mortal Kombat,

2105
01:35:02,199 --> 01:35:05,279
and watching this is like the most fascinating treasure trove

2106
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,880
of Like it's I have not seen it behind the

2107
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,319
scenes thing like this that has hit me like this,

2108
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,159
like I I all watch yeah, yeah, ah.

2109
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: No, It's what I wouldn't give to like have something

2110
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,840
like that for Zelda. Oh it would never happen. I

2111
01:35:22,159 --> 01:35:24,760
realized that's pipe dream, but like that'd be unreal to see,

2112
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:26,479
like the moment when they figure out the hook shot.

2113
01:35:27,039 --> 01:35:30,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah. But this is there's something really there's

2114
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:32,479
there's there's a less cliche way to put this in

2115
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,760
like a punk type thing, but like it's just a

2116
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:39,520
bunch of fucking twenty somethings in an office in Chicago

2117
01:35:40,079 --> 01:35:42,000
and they were in the nineties and they were kind

2118
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,079
of giving carp blanche to like you know, like they

2119
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:46,439
keep talking to these documentaries, like nobody was really telling

2120
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:47,960
us what to do. Like they were just like come

2121
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,800
in and be like cool, keep it up. And so

2122
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,079
like these guys just like they had one arcade cabinet

2123
01:35:52,079 --> 01:35:55,119
and yeah, and like the Kevin they came in and

2124
01:35:55,119 --> 01:35:57,159
they thought they were worried about the fatalities and stuff.

2125
01:35:57,159 --> 01:35:58,800
They're like, oh, it might be going too far here,

2126
01:35:59,079 --> 01:36:00,960
and like the mid guys would come in and be

2127
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,560
like sweet, it's like something.

2128
01:36:03,119 --> 01:36:08,199
Speaker 1: It was just such a cool for everybody wanted a handy.

2129
01:36:09,399 --> 01:36:11,680
Speaker 2: Corporate medaling and all that and everything. It was just

2130
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,680
a bunch of cool fucking dudes that grew up on

2131
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,720
the same ship and they wanted to put all their

2132
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,720
cool influences into a game, and they made one of

2133
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,840
the coolest things ever. And it is such a time

2134
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,600
capsule that made something so so special. And watching this

2135
01:36:24,680 --> 01:36:27,159
you can tell how much passion these guys had for

2136
01:36:27,199 --> 01:36:30,119
it and how much fun they had making it, which always

2137
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:31,760
came through in the games. Like I, you know, without

2138
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,960
ever seeing any of this behind the scenes stuff, you

2139
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,359
play Mortal Kombat games and you're like, these guys are

2140
01:36:36,359 --> 01:36:38,960
having fucking fun. And it's so cool that so many

2141
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,279
of those guys from this footage from nineteen ninety one

2142
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,239
are still at nether Realm now. And I think that's

2143
01:36:44,279 --> 01:36:47,680
a big reason. Like Hi, Yeah, like Mortal Kombat has

2144
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,640
like had like it never had, you know, it has

2145
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:51,520
games I like more than others and stuff like that,

2146
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,199
And I don't love the DC one or whatever, but

2147
01:36:53,239 --> 01:36:55,760
like it never stopped feeling like Mortal Kombat. And it's

2148
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,279
like because even as it grew, it was still these

2149
01:36:59,319 --> 01:37:02,920
guys that made this game and kept that DNA the

2150
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,479
same way throughout and like it's just I've always loved

2151
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,520
Mortal Kombat. This is making me love it even more.

2152
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,239
It's it's a fantastic collection.

2153
01:37:11,319 --> 01:37:13,079
Speaker 4: I love the behind the scenes stuff.

2154
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,600
Speaker 3: I think that's really cool to to get that kind

2155
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,520
of lore and that background of the people who love

2156
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:22,840
this uh just made this game what it is and

2157
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:25,399
to see them care that deeply about it in a

2158
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,439
game very fun.

2159
01:37:27,319 --> 01:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh. That's like one of my favorite things

2160
01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:32,039
about Command and Conquer Remastered collection. They had so much

2161
01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:34,439
that behind the scenes stuff. I love the museum aspects

2162
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,279
of these remasters, these collections. It's it's awesome. I want

2163
01:37:37,359 --> 01:37:38,159
more people to do it.

2164
01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:40,159
Speaker 2: But you'll frequently see this stuff where it's like, oh,

2165
01:37:40,199 --> 01:37:42,640
here's some concept art or whatever, like you know, oh,

2166
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,520
make a man legacy collection, Like here's a drawing of Cutman.

2167
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,159
Speaker 1: You know, Oh no, don't have ass it.

2168
01:37:47,319 --> 01:37:50,239
Speaker 2: This is like digital Clips goes nuts with this stuff,

2169
01:37:50,279 --> 01:37:52,920
and it is so in depth and like even just

2170
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,319
little things like oh, from the timeline of the Mortal

2171
01:37:55,359 --> 01:37:57,319
Kombat two documentaries. You can like press a button and

2172
01:37:57,319 --> 01:38:00,199
start playing Mortal Kombat two and you can play play

2173
01:38:00,199 --> 01:38:01,880
the arcade version you want to play the Superintendent version,

2174
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,000
you want to play, the game Boy version, do you

2175
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,000
want to play? Like, it's just all of these different

2176
01:38:05,079 --> 01:38:08,319
versions of these games. It's it's cool, it's it's I

2177
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:08,680
love it.

2178
01:38:09,039 --> 01:38:10,359
Speaker 3: So what about online?

2179
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,399
Speaker 2: I haven't. I haven't played a single online game yet.

2180
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,520
I you know, honestly, for me, it's fighting it.

2181
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,720
Speaker 4: That's a reason, just like Mortal Kombat is so much

2182
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:19,000
about like competing.

2183
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,119
Speaker 2: But to me, I kind of push back on that

2184
01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:24,199
because like, to me, I was never a hardcore fighting

2185
01:38:24,279 --> 01:38:26,800
game guy, and I knew even back then that the

2186
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,880
hardcore fighting game guys went towards Street Fighter, And I

2187
01:38:30,319 --> 01:38:34,279
also think Street Fighter is a better mechanical fighting series

2188
01:38:34,279 --> 01:38:37,640
than Mortal Kombat is. But it was the personality of

2189
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,720
Mortal Kombat. It was just the super over the top

2190
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:44,399
nature of the fatality. But they it was so fucking silly.

2191
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:48,359
But they also took their stories like seriously. They played

2192
01:38:48,399 --> 01:38:50,800
it straight like it's the most ridiculous fucking story. But

2193
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,920
the lore is actually kind of fun to follow. So

2194
01:38:54,039 --> 01:38:55,880
I think that's what made me draw in to it.

2195
01:38:56,119 --> 01:38:57,520
It wasn't about like I'm going to be the best

2196
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,279
Mortal Kombat player and learn all these like highlight level

2197
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,520
you know, fighting esport moves or whatever. It was just like,

2198
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,439
I don't know, some zero is cool, you know. So

2199
01:39:06,079 --> 01:39:08,399
that's what drew me to Mortal Combat more than the

2200
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:09,439
hardcore fighting game.

2201
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:13,319
Speaker 1: You know, Mary, what is Henry Halfhead?

2202
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 4: This is a quick one. It's a puzzler game.

2203
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

2204
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:19,600
Speaker 4: You play as Henry.

2205
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:24,800
Speaker 7: You do have half of a head, and you can

2206
01:39:25,319 --> 01:39:30,319
embody a object and then become it, and then you

2207
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,159
use that to solve puzzles.

2208
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:35,119
Speaker 2: So one of the very operator talks the entire time.

2209
01:39:36,079 --> 01:39:40,199
Speaker 3: There is a narrator. I didn't care for that. But

2210
01:39:40,319 --> 01:39:42,439
I actually did play this game on my steam deck

2211
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:44,800
while watching TV, so I actually didn't have the audio on.

2212
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: It's probably smart, yeah, because like the idea of like

2213
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:48,960
inhabiting all these different things is kind of fun, but

2214
01:39:49,039 --> 01:39:51,199
it was I kind of tapped out when every I

2215
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:53,479
thought it was just like a tutorial. Oh Henry, he.

2216
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:59,000
Speaker 1: Liked playing with his ball, He's playing Shut the fuck up,

2217
01:39:59,159 --> 01:40:03,800
just let me play the game went sleepy by. It's like,

2218
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:09,479
oh I hate this. It sounds like Bash, but they're

2219
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:11,359
narrating like boring stuff.

2220
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 2: I had really different.

2221
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,039
Speaker 3: Experiences excited that.

2222
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:16,159
Speaker 1: The audio on Shut the Up.

2223
01:40:16,319 --> 01:40:21,039
Speaker 3: It's my God, I was just messing around with it

2224
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:23,079
like it would. It has all these puzzles where it'll

2225
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:26,800
be like make a party, and so you're I'm I'm

2226
01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:31,119
inhabiting a plate and setting the table, I'm inhabiting candles

2227
01:40:31,279 --> 01:40:33,640
and putting them on a cake. I'm inhabiting a match

2228
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:37,239
and lighting myself and then lighting the birthday cake. And

2229
01:40:37,319 --> 01:40:39,439
when I did that, I threw a party and I

2230
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:41,800
was like, that's so cute. This is a cute, little

2231
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:47,239
simple puzzler. But I actually never really listened to the game,

2232
01:40:48,119 --> 01:40:49,800
so that would be very annoying.

2233
01:40:50,079 --> 01:40:52,039
Speaker 2: It is that like that did annoy me, but like

2234
01:40:52,159 --> 01:40:54,760
also like the puzzles, and I played maybe like an

2235
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,119
hour or so of it. It's sure everything was just

2236
01:40:57,159 --> 01:40:59,560
the most obviously okay, now gotta it's like you realize

2237
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:01,159
them too. So it's like I gotta put the candles

2238
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:03,520
on the cake. And then it's like fucking three minutes

2239
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:06,079
of like I'm rolling the candle over. Okay, let's get

2240
01:41:06,119 --> 01:41:09,079
the candle. Okay. Now it's like it's the puzzles weren't

2241
01:41:09,079 --> 01:41:10,600
really doing it for me either, Like it had a

2242
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,279
good look to it and everything it.

2243
01:41:12,319 --> 01:41:14,039
Speaker 3: Has a cute look to it. I think the pet

2244
01:41:14,079 --> 01:41:16,359
puzzles are simple. I think that's super fair to say.

2245
01:41:17,399 --> 01:41:18,159
I think it's cute.

2246
01:41:18,279 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 4: I think it's it's probably more for like younger kids.

2247
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:23,560
Speaker 2: I think said his daughters were liking it, so I think.

2248
01:41:25,239 --> 01:41:26,319
Speaker 1: This just had like a.

2249
01:41:28,319 --> 01:41:30,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, a young vibe to it.

2250
01:41:30,279 --> 01:41:31,199
Speaker 4: It's very simple.

2251
01:41:32,279 --> 01:41:35,039
Speaker 3: The the art style is so cute and adorable, and

2252
01:41:35,159 --> 01:41:38,159
I think it's thoughtful in that sense. But I also

2253
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:38,920
did not.

2254
01:41:39,039 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 4: Play it probably more than three hout.

2255
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:42,720
Speaker 3: I think I played it one evening for three hours,

2256
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:44,840
and I thought that that's nice, and I never went

2257
01:41:44,920 --> 01:41:45,359
back to it.

2258
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Yep, if you're six and listen, Hey, hey, any listeners

2259
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:59,640
that yeah listening, asshole? Yeah, let's luminess arise. You don't

2260
01:41:59,680 --> 01:42:01,159
know what now?

2261
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,560
Speaker 2: Oh you god, damn fool? What is it?

2262
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,199
Speaker 1: You don't know? Luminous? No listen.

2263
01:42:09,119 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 2: The PSP, the PlayStation Portable is a dog shit system,

2264
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,479
but Luminous almost made it worth it. Luminous is a

2265
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,239
puzzle game. When I say puzzle game means a lot

2266
01:42:20,279 --> 01:42:22,399
of things, it is like more on the side of

2267
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,640
like blocks and grids and stuff like that.

2268
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 5: It is.

2269
01:42:27,119 --> 01:42:29,239
Speaker 2: It's got this element of kind of I don't want

2270
01:42:29,239 --> 01:42:31,199
to say rhythm, but more like timing, Like there is

2271
01:42:31,279 --> 01:42:33,880
a timeline that goes across the screen and it kind

2272
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,119
of like clears things out as the timeline passes things.

2273
01:42:37,159 --> 01:42:39,399
So if you get a two by two grid of

2274
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:43,000
the same color like every you're always dealing with two

2275
01:42:43,039 --> 01:42:46,000
different colors or two different items, Like I just did

2276
01:42:46,039 --> 01:42:48,319
one that's like ice blocks and taxi cabs and stuff.

2277
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,399
And I see Mary bobbing her head right now.

2278
01:42:50,399 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 3: Because oh this music is fucking tie all.

2279
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 2: About music and visuals. It is the most like it

2280
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,279
was Tetris Effect before Tetris Effect in terms of the

2281
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,000
visuals and everything. And just as you progress through the level,

2282
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,359
it's just like, oh fuck, the music changes completely and

2283
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,279
all the the blocks look completely different, and uh.

2284
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 3: This would hit so hard if you were on drugs.

2285
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 1: No.

2286
01:43:11,159 --> 01:43:13,239
Speaker 2: And it's also like I can't wait to try it

2287
01:43:13,359 --> 01:43:17,199
in VR because ooh boy, Tetris Effect probably George Washington

2288
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:19,199
in The Mount rushmore of good games to play while

2289
01:43:19,239 --> 01:43:22,640
you're high. Luminous is all about the sound and vision

2290
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,119
and stuff, So I do want to get very high

2291
01:43:24,119 --> 01:43:24,920
and play this in VR.

2292
01:43:25,359 --> 01:43:25,600
Speaker 5: It is.

2293
01:43:27,079 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 3: The little.

2294
01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:32,880
Speaker 6: Chameleons, oh yeah, yeah, And there's like this fruit level

2295
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,159
where you're like building huge apples and stuff and they

2296
01:43:35,239 --> 01:43:36,479
fly at the screen when you break them.

2297
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:39,239
Speaker 2: Everything it's I'm not going to describe every fucking puzzle

2298
01:43:39,239 --> 01:43:41,079
mechanic to you. It is a game where you were

2299
01:43:41,119 --> 01:43:43,680
dropping blocks and you were matching things together, and you

2300
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:45,960
were getting a high score and trying not to let

2301
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,920
the blocks get to the top of the screen. It is.

2302
01:43:48,119 --> 01:43:49,880
It sounds a lot like Tetris when I describe it

2303
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:50,199
that way.

2304
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 1: It is.

2305
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 2: It definitely feels very different than Tetris, but it is

2306
01:43:55,159 --> 01:43:56,039
right up there for me.

2307
01:43:56,199 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 3: Likely has like a Mario uh is that is called

2308
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:01,560
doctor Mario.

2309
01:44:03,279 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Would be like og one the pill Mario was just

2310
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:08,560
the kind of the two pip pills and stuff like this.

2311
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,199
Speaker 2: This is a two by two. You're dropping a lot

2312
01:44:10,239 --> 01:44:11,960
of two by two squares, and so some of them

2313
01:44:12,039 --> 01:44:13,760
might all let's say it's just blue and orange, you know,

2314
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:15,600
some of them might just be all blue, some might

2315
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:17,800
be all orange, some might be a mix. And gravity

2316
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:20,199
affects the blocks as they fall, and so you were

2317
01:44:20,239 --> 01:44:23,439
just trying to make big blocks basically to clear them out.

2318
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,079
And but you can do really cool combos and stuff

2319
01:44:26,079 --> 01:44:28,279
with it. There's this new burst mechanic that is really awesome.

2320
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:34,359
So they basically Tetris Effect. Tetris affected Luminous and made

2321
01:44:34,399 --> 01:44:37,239
it better than ever. And I mean, Luminous is one

2322
01:44:37,239 --> 01:44:39,199
of the all time best puzzle games to me, and

2323
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,439
Tetris Effect was one of the best kind of reimaginings

2324
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,880
of a puzzle game. And they've done it again. Luminous

2325
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,159
Arise kicks ass. Mary.

2326
01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 1: I know you play a lot on your Steam deck.

2327
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:49,279
This is.

2328
01:44:49,319 --> 01:44:51,319
Speaker 2: I played pretty much all of this on my Steam deck.

2329
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 3: I love this. This seems like really up my alley.

2330
01:44:55,880 --> 01:45:01,159
I really love the old drug binge. So I think

2331
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:03,920
I'm gonna I'm gonna think I'm gonna give this a try.

2332
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:05,000
This looks great.

2333
01:45:05,079 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 2: This is I've not been high yet playing and I've

2334
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,880
played through the entire journey mode of this, and it's

2335
01:45:09,039 --> 01:45:11,039
very good high or not high. I will also be

2336
01:45:11,079 --> 01:45:11,960
getting high and playing this.

2337
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 1: Very drug binge. It's the funny, funniest way podcast.

2338
01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:20,159
Speaker 3: Good drug binge.

2339
01:45:20,279 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 4: I mean, I think I've had a rough working environment.

2340
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 3: I love to like get out of my head when

2341
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:30,119
I'm not working right now, and I think like this

2342
01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:32,359
is the kind of thing that I think would really

2343
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:37,439
allow me to transcend reality. That sounds great, So I have.

2344
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:40,319
Speaker 2: To sound on with this one because the music is great,

2345
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:44,399
totally jaz mode and like, did you did testor sffect right?

2346
01:45:46,079 --> 01:45:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

2347
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,279
Speaker 2: You know that journey mode where you're like, it's got

2348
01:45:48,319 --> 01:45:49,880
the exact same thing here, it's got the journey mode

2349
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,600
where it's kind of broken up into different like you know,

2350
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:55,520
here's here's five little stages basically, and then here's another four,

2351
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:57,479
and then it's got all the different like shifts between

2352
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,039
the music and the visuals and everything.

2353
01:45:59,119 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: It's just like that.

2354
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,039
Speaker 2: It is just a good time.

2355
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 3: Damn, this is really cool. Thank you looks awesome.

2356
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,520
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you think of it. I

2357
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,279
guess I won't play it because Dan yelled at me

2358
01:46:11,279 --> 01:46:11,600
about it.

2359
01:46:12,079 --> 01:46:16,119
Speaker 3: She doesn't even do drugs. Mike, you've been playing Monster

2360
01:46:16,279 --> 01:46:18,680
Train too, which I heard you could be stone sober

2361
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:19,760
for tell us about it.

2362
01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: I talked about it last episode. But yeah, that's probably

2363
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,920
my favorite thing. I'm still playing now along with Donkey

2364
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:30,199
Kong Bananza. That game is really really good. I've unlocked

2365
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:33,560
every faction. I have a bunch of new cores to

2366
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,359
my train, like the Heart of the Train that they're

2367
01:46:35,359 --> 01:46:37,680
trying to destroy, but you also get ones with different abilities.

2368
01:46:39,159 --> 01:46:41,680
I still really really hate the art style for the

2369
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:45,520
first game and this it looks so cheap. It gets

2370
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,239
the point across, and there's some really clever character models,

2371
01:46:48,319 --> 01:46:53,039
but like it just looks like a bad line straddling

2372
01:46:53,079 --> 01:46:57,880
between paper cutouts and like online like flash game. I'm

2373
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:02,279
not sure, but yeah, the games are to a flash game. Yeah, sorry,

2374
01:47:02,399 --> 01:47:05,359
that's it was immature of me. But no, this game

2375
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:09,039
is like incredible. And again I don't I don't historically

2376
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,560
love deck Builders, but this game does such cool things

2377
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,359
with it that builds on the first game two. Like,

2378
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,560
there are certain effects you get that really just blow

2379
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:21,479
up how you're thinking about certain factions. Valor is this

2380
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,720
effect where basically, if you end in the front of

2381
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:26,600
a row, you'll gain armor, but you'll also add some

2382
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,000
to your attack power. And then there's certain characters that

2383
01:47:29,079 --> 01:47:32,239
can move around the train build valor each time you

2384
01:47:32,359 --> 01:47:37,039
do that. So it's it's very very good at forcing

2385
01:47:37,079 --> 01:47:39,000
me out of my comfort zone in like a play

2386
01:47:39,039 --> 01:47:42,359
style that I get comfortable with. Similar to Blatro, Blatcho

2387
01:47:42,399 --> 01:47:44,399
will force you out of your comfort zone quickly in

2388
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:47,439
terms of like how you're building your deck or with

2389
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,359
jokers there. But Montra Train two is very very good

2390
01:47:51,399 --> 01:47:53,640
at just forcing me to keep thinking of my feet often.

2391
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 2: I like it a lot.

2392
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 1: It's also just very satisfying for a deck building game,

2393
01:47:57,000 --> 01:47:58,600
similar to what I was saying about Donkey Kong. It's

2394
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,279
got a good like snappiness to it. It feels great.

2395
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:02,960
I like that game quite a bit.

2396
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,239
Speaker 4: I have one more that I thought about last minute.

2397
01:48:08,279 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 1: And what was that look you were giving me? You

2398
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:10,439
were going to say something?

2399
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 5: Do you know?

2400
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,680
Speaker 2: I think I was given Mary a look because she said,

2401
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,560
you don't deserve anything? And I realized, did you know that?

2402
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,359
I won the McDonald Anopotly game and I won one

2403
01:48:18,399 --> 01:48:21,840
hundred thousand American Airlines miles just send me and bank

2404
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:22,840
to Hawaii round trip.

2405
01:48:23,279 --> 01:48:29,079
Speaker 4: I saw you on Instagram thank McDonald's and I rolled.

2406
01:48:29,399 --> 01:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Is that what you're dealing with them?

2407
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:31,199
Speaker 4: What did you win?

2408
01:48:32,079 --> 01:48:34,279
Speaker 2: We haven't decided yet, but they are in my account now.

2409
01:48:34,359 --> 01:48:37,600
I have one hundred thousand American Airlines miles approximate retail

2410
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,680
value twenty five hundred dollars that I won of McDonald's

2411
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:44,359
monopoly feasts one piece?

2412
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: How many did you buy it?

2413
01:48:46,199 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 3: You didn't have like Baltic Avenue.

2414
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:49,199
Speaker 2: It was like it was one of the quickspans you

2415
01:48:49,239 --> 01:48:51,159
get bonus spins on the app when you do it,

2416
01:48:51,239 --> 01:48:52,720
and so I hit the bonus pin and it was

2417
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,439
like usually it's like you want a free small fry

2418
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:57,039
or a small cone and me it was like twenty

2419
01:48:57,079 --> 01:48:58,479
five hundred dollars worth of flights?

2420
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,119
Speaker 1: How long did it? How long were you suspicious? Like

2421
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,399
did this really happen? Or is like there's that there's

2422
01:49:04,399 --> 01:49:06,600
some pass Like what were the odds that it was?

2423
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 2: Like until it was in my account, I was kind

2424
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,359
of like, all right, hopefully some bullshit doesn't happen or whatever.

2425
01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:13,840
And then I got an email like a few days

2426
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,439
ago and it was like, hey, congrats, put this code

2427
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:19,600
into your advantage account or whatever. And I put it

2428
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,479
in and it's like miles available one hundred thousand. And

2429
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,239
I looked it up and it's like, oh wow, round

2430
01:49:24,279 --> 01:49:26,000
trip for one person to WHII is forty five k.

2431
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:28,680
That's that's pretty good believable.

2432
01:49:29,239 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 3: You should play the lottery the way you flip flops,

2433
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,199
stumble dip dog your way through life without fucking knowing

2434
01:49:36,319 --> 01:49:38,560
shit or giving a shit, and you just fucking keep

2435
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,279
winning unbelievable.

2436
01:49:40,399 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 2: I think I could win the lottery and it's gonna

2437
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:42,399
be really funny.

2438
01:49:42,399 --> 01:49:43,560
Speaker 3: I think you would.

2439
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:46,520
Speaker 4: I like, I wouldn't be surprised if you, like went

2440
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:47,640
for governor and won.

2441
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,119
Speaker 3: I'd be like, who knew.

2442
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 1: Would do?

2443
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,840
Speaker 2: I could actually become like a governor.

2444
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: I a governor. Yeah, if you if you become governor

2445
01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:02,239
of any state in the country, just governor here I know.

2446
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 3: And he's corrupt.

2447
01:50:07,359 --> 01:50:08,640
Speaker 1: The body, the mind.

2448
01:50:11,319 --> 01:50:12,279
Speaker 3: This isn't a ring.

2449
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:13,319
Speaker 2: I think you go to water.

2450
01:50:13,399 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 1: I don't think you become governor. I think it's more

2451
01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:19,760
than a popularity. I mean what I can do first, Yeah,

2452
01:50:20,239 --> 01:50:26,479
just keep trying. Especially, wouldn't be running against like the

2453
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:32,560
most whatever. Oh yeah, Minnesota Dan Ker versus Tim Waltz

2454
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,880
would be never mind, the equivalent of Samoa Joe fighting

2455
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,119
me physically. All right, No, no, no, I won't go

2456
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:41,159
against walt You won't. Yeah, you won't take him down

2457
01:50:41,239 --> 01:50:42,119
for the good of the state.

2458
01:50:42,359 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true, for the betterment of Minnesota.

2459
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: I wonder what state you could become governor and if

2460
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:51,720
you try, I don't think. I don't think they would

2461
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,319
vote for Dan down there if.

2462
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 2: I said the stuff they wanted to hear.

2463
01:50:56,399 --> 01:50:57,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure.

2464
01:51:00,119 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 2: Down the road if I wanted to, that'd be the

2465
01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:05,279
easiest shit in the world. My all right, grip turn, oh,

2466
01:51:05,399 --> 01:51:08,560
that'd be the easiest fucking fish in a barrel. I

2467
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,920
would be making millions within a year. The Republican Whip.

2468
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:14,039
Speaker 1: Like, if there was a government shutdown and the Democrats

2469
01:51:14,079 --> 01:51:16,000
are trying to hold out, the Republican Whip would go

2470
01:51:16,039 --> 01:51:17,319
to Dan in the middle of the night with like

2471
01:51:17,319 --> 01:51:19,560
one hundred dollars Taco Bell gift card to get into

2472
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,439
defect and he'd be like, yeah, sure, I don't care. No,

2473
01:51:23,159 --> 01:51:25,720
I just got one hundred thousand miles from McDonald's. I'm fine,

2474
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,439
I'll see you in the morning. I have the miles

2475
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,119
damn inside of Bill McDonald's drill.

2476
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:41,199
Speaker 3: I did some value, so fad don't worry about me.

2477
01:51:41,319 --> 01:51:43,520
I voted for Chastity Bono. I would never.

2478
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:44,640
Speaker 4: I won't support you.

2479
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:46,159
Speaker 1: I will, I will.

2480
01:51:46,359 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 3: I will move to Florida and vote for the other guy.

2481
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,279
I won't. I won't be in Florida.

2482
01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: It could be a woman.

2483
01:51:53,439 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 3: There she goes again. I also have been playing I

2484
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:00,720
forgot about it, but I was playing another game. I

2485
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:02,960
wanted to tell you about called dead Take.

2486
01:52:03,079 --> 01:52:05,159
Speaker 1: I forgot about this, but I'm going to talk about it.

2487
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,479
You're so the hosting is easy.

2488
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 3: It's hard.

2489
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,600
Speaker 1: Forgot this. Now I'm gonna enthrall you. Okay, I go

2490
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:15,720
dead tape. Okay.

2491
01:52:17,359 --> 01:52:23,119
Speaker 3: Dead Take is a FMV horror game which should really

2492
01:52:23,199 --> 01:52:27,720
be right up my alley. It has cut scenes starring

2493
01:52:28,119 --> 01:52:33,359
Neil Neubin nubn from balders Gate, Iree Asterion and Ben

2494
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:41,359
Starr and uh, Laura Bailey, Matthew Mercer, a lot of

2495
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:46,840
pretty big names on this f FMV file. You are

2496
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,399
in a house. I think it's like a producer's house,

2497
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:53,880
and I think he's a bad guy, and all these

2498
01:52:54,119 --> 01:52:57,000
actors are trying to get like good roles in the

2499
01:52:57,159 --> 01:53:00,920
next film, and you're playing. You're like finding out what

2500
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:03,960
went wrong in this house because there's like spoopy stuff

2501
01:53:04,079 --> 01:53:08,039
going around and you have to like uncover it. I

2502
01:53:08,119 --> 01:53:11,560
thought it was okay. It was a horror game that

2503
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,119
I think. I wish it was a little scarier. I

2504
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:16,800
only like got actually jump scared maybe twice throughout the

2505
01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:20,399
whole thing. It's more the environment is is kind of

2506
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:22,000
uncomfortable or scary.

2507
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:22,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

2508
01:53:22,800 --> 01:53:24,560
Speaker 4: I didn't think the puzzles were super hard.

2509
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 3: I figured everything out. I think I beat this game

2510
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:32,359
in four hours with UH with my bud Silver. I

2511
01:53:32,399 --> 01:53:35,439
think we basically burned through it pretty quickly. But I

2512
01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:37,119
do love F and B horror, and I think if

2513
01:53:37,119 --> 01:53:41,319
you're into like weird horror psychological films, UH, it was.

2514
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:43,680
It was a cool experience and I'm glad I played

2515
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:47,119
it if you like that kind of thing. It's a

2516
01:53:47,279 --> 01:53:51,159
very unique style of horror game. It's weird to see

2517
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:56,600
Ben Starr, like not just his voice, his like physical form.

2518
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,199
All these people a lot of pearces in it. Like

2519
01:53:59,279 --> 01:54:01,920
there's a lot of actors, but it's like their actual

2520
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:04,479
physical form. It's they're they're not I mean, they're playing

2521
01:54:04,520 --> 01:54:07,600
a role, but like it's actors, you know. So that

2522
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:08,359
was confusing.

2523
01:54:08,720 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 2: Names start are so weird to me because it's like

2524
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,640
he's the guy that I see all the time and

2525
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,439
I talk to all the time whenever we do a

2526
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:16,720
thing and you know, game Awards or SGF or something.

2527
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,880
But I've never played I guess Entail Expedition thirty three.

2528
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:21,520
I never really play games. He's been a voice and

2529
01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:23,840
so he's just like a dude. I sometimes talk to

2530
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:26,920
I don't, so I only know him as just a

2531
01:54:27,000 --> 01:54:30,159
physical dude. Yeah, it's weird to see him as a dude.

2532
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:30,399
Speaker 5: You know.

2533
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 3: It's weird because he plays like, uh, I'm not gonna

2534
01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:35,239
I'm not gonna give it away. But they're all playing

2535
01:54:35,359 --> 01:54:38,359
characters that are like kind of strange and nuanced, so

2536
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,760
it is like stressful to watch him get like really

2537
01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:45,439
angry on set and things like that. There's also that, Yeah,

2538
01:54:45,479 --> 01:54:47,039
there's just a lot of actors in it where I'm like,

2539
01:54:47,119 --> 01:54:49,119
I know that guy, but he's playing he's playing like

2540
01:54:49,159 --> 01:54:49,600
a weirdo.

2541
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:56,079
Speaker 4: So yeah, people, Yeah, it's a lot of it's a

2542
01:54:56,119 --> 01:54:57,039
hard sell for me.

2543
01:54:57,399 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 3: I thought it was an interesting experience, especially a four

2544
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:05,680
hours psychological horror puzzler with FMV stuff.

2545
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:08,199
Speaker 4: I think it's it's neat what they tried to do here,

2546
01:55:09,159 --> 01:55:10,319
but a little bit too.

2547
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:14,359
Speaker 3: Slow burn for me. A lot of it is like

2548
01:55:14,960 --> 01:55:19,880
slowly waiting for the next video file and watching it

2549
01:55:20,279 --> 01:55:23,880
and figuring out what that's uncovering, splicing together video files.

2550
01:55:24,039 --> 01:55:27,399
Glad I played it. I don't regret that. How much

2551
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:27,680
is it?

2552
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,279
Speaker 2: It's understanding right now, you're making an F and B game,

2553
01:55:33,319 --> 01:55:35,239
anyone out there, you're making an F and B game

2554
01:55:35,279 --> 01:55:36,920
that's gonna be a real game, soundstame or something.

2555
01:55:37,239 --> 01:55:39,399
Speaker 1: I will be in your fm B game.

2556
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 2: Free your charge. Let me know and I will. I

2557
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,640
will go for it, just I would love to be.

2558
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 3: He's got the miles.

2559
01:55:45,239 --> 01:55:48,199
Speaker 4: He will fly there and speed it in the morning.

2560
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,199
He smells like fries, but he.

2561
01:55:52,439 --> 01:55:58,199
Speaker 3: Knows how to act. Yeah, people like McDonald's fries.

2562
01:55:58,359 --> 01:56:01,680
Speaker 2: Dan at a certain time, Like at the Bombiton, we

2563
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,760
had a room filled with fries that we're sitting there

2564
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,600
for like six hours, and I tried to take a

2565
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:08,399
nap in that room, and look, I love McDonald's. I

2566
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:10,640
was like, this is overwhelming. I cannot sleep in this

2567
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:11,279
fry room.

2568
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let them hear that they might snatch those that.

2569
01:56:16,039 --> 01:56:21,199
Speaker 3: What do you want, Ronald, Come get me, Ronald. It

2570
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:23,279
wouldn't be him. It would be the guy who steals

2571
01:56:23,399 --> 01:56:28,680
the burglar. He would he would come. Get your mind.

2572
01:56:29,319 --> 01:56:32,039
Speaker 2: Go for it, Joe on the Hamburgler.

2573
01:56:32,319 --> 01:56:35,800
Speaker 4: Stop bringing up Samoa Jo. He's not gonna save you.

2574
01:56:36,039 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 2: My good personal friends, Tomojo, who will always see me

2575
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:39,479
if I get in trouble.

2576
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:45,039
Speaker 1: He doesn't even know unless I then there's no stopping me.

2577
01:56:45,239 --> 01:56:49,199
Even if you're Samoa Joe, I'll tear through like tissue paper.

2578
01:56:52,199 --> 01:56:57,159
I think, I think, I actually like he is probably

2579
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,479
the size of three and a half of me, maybe.

2580
01:57:00,359 --> 01:57:02,039
Speaker 2: Four, probably more than three.

2581
01:57:02,079 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 1: And now, yeah, I still I maintained you can run

2582
01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:08,119
for governor Florida. I'll fight Samoa Joe. We'll see who's

2583
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:12,600
more successful. Okay, we'll race. What's the how would I race?

2584
01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 5: You?

2585
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Do you have to beatmo Joe before I become a

2586
01:57:15,079 --> 01:57:17,560
US governor? And I have.

2587
01:57:19,159 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 1: What kind of fight?

2588
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:21,439
Speaker 2: Street fight?

2589
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:22,439
Speaker 1: Oh? Fuck?

2590
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,159
Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, just like bar bar fight one? Do you

2591
01:57:25,239 --> 01:57:25,800
ask to give up?

2592
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 1: I'd have better chance with that than an actual like

2593
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:32,000
wrestling match. All right, Okay, can I use weapons?

2594
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: Whatever's there?

2595
01:57:34,319 --> 01:57:39,840
Speaker 4: Okay, whatever is around on the ground. Okay, you can

2596
01:57:40,079 --> 01:57:41,720
stab Samoa Joe.

2597
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,439
Speaker 1: With Call Joe up. I'll take some shirtless photos and

2598
01:57:44,520 --> 01:57:46,119
you can send those to him. Be like this guy

2599
01:57:46,199 --> 01:57:51,960
wants to fight you. Oh, just be a mortal combat fatality.

2600
01:57:54,319 --> 01:57:57,520
But I would have the like the the cockiness of

2601
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:00,600
uh Johnny. Sure?

2602
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:02,039
Speaker 2: All right?

2603
01:58:02,199 --> 01:58:03,319
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about emails?

2604
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:06,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we like to discuss about them.

2605
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,119
Speaker 1: Okay. As always, you can run into the fire escape

2606
01:58:10,199 --> 01:58:12,800
cast at gmail dot com. That is Firescape cast at

2607
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:15,880
gmail dot com. Questions, comments, stuff you want read on

2608
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,800
the show. We are running low, so fill that inbox

2609
01:58:19,079 --> 01:58:20,760
back up. We've been getting a lot of good questions

2610
01:58:20,800 --> 01:58:24,439
throughout the year. We will also be kind of prepping

2611
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:26,560
for going into next year as we finish up Game

2612
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,960
of the Year stuff. So fill up the inbox with

2613
01:58:29,159 --> 01:58:35,439
questions about anything, preferably food or beauty tips. I can

2614
01:58:35,479 --> 01:58:41,039
give you some of those or fight fight tactics, which

2615
01:58:41,159 --> 01:58:45,319
Mary is happy to share. We have a few questions tonight.

2616
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,239
This first one is from Tyler Mary. Yeah, first one

2617
01:58:48,359 --> 01:58:52,439
balls nos eyes face vagina kick.

2618
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,079
Speaker 3: They can never get past it.

2619
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,680
Speaker 2: Hi, the kick is not super effective, so don't go.

2620
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 4: No more effective than a shoulder or.

2621
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it go over your eyes eyes is anyone's guess?

2622
01:59:11,520 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: Hi?

2623
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:19,000
Speaker 3: There escapees first time, long time. I recently picked up

2624
01:59:19,439 --> 01:59:23,479
Mark Oh Lord help me Daniel Luski, Daniel Luski's new

2625
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:24,920
book Tom's Crossing.

2626
01:59:25,279 --> 01:59:25,439
Speaker 1: Now.

2627
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 3: I'm not normally one to pick up a book on

2628
01:59:28,119 --> 01:59:31,399
release day, but finding out that the author of House

2629
01:59:31,439 --> 01:59:35,680
of Leaves had written a magical realism eighties Western set

2630
01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:39,880
in my hometown, I could not order fast enough. Reading

2631
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:41,920
it has been an absolute delight. Has made me feel

2632
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:45,359
seen in a powerful way. Do you have any favorite

2633
01:59:45,399 --> 01:59:48,079
pieces of media that line up perfectly with your preference

2634
01:59:48,399 --> 01:59:50,439
and have built in connections to your real life, such

2635
01:59:50,479 --> 01:59:52,960
as being set in your hometown or fusing on a

2636
01:59:53,119 --> 01:59:54,399
niche interest of yours.

2637
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,000
Speaker 4: Love the show, Thanks Tyler.

2638
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:06,319
Speaker 1: I would say Annihilation the movie kind of really hit

2639
02:00:06,399 --> 02:00:07,239
me in a way where I.

2640
02:00:07,319 --> 02:00:09,199
Speaker 4: Was like, set in your hometown.

2641
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,439
Speaker 1: I did not grow up in the Everglades, but it

2642
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:19,399
was like horror meets sci fi meets fantasy meets I

2643
02:00:19,479 --> 02:00:23,840
don't know. I'm a sucker for like expeditions in movies,

2644
02:00:24,359 --> 02:00:26,800
like anytime someone goes into an unknown place where things

2645
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:28,560
are they don't know what's going on. I always love

2646
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:30,279
that Annihilation felt like it was made for me in

2647
02:00:30,319 --> 02:00:35,319
that respect. That was probably the one that comes to mind.

2648
02:00:35,399 --> 02:00:38,520
In terms of movies video games, I would say Alan

2649
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:42,279
Wake two felt like it was just this confluence. It's like, oh,

2650
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:45,359
Alan's story was very inspired by Taxi Driver and neo

2651
02:00:45,439 --> 02:00:49,039
noir seventies stuff about like from New York City in

2652
02:00:49,079 --> 02:00:51,920
the seventies and noir crime dram is in that. But

2653
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:58,720
then you also have the pack Northwest Twin Peaks, FBI Investigation, Survival, Horror,

2654
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:01,119
Over the Shoulder of Side, and I was like, oh,

2655
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:04,720
they made two games just for me and mashed them

2656
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,279
together into one crazy, unwieldy thing.

2657
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:11,920
Speaker 2: It's a I can think of a really good example

2658
02:01:11,960 --> 02:01:16,000
and a really bad example of So I'm not like,

2659
02:01:16,159 --> 02:01:19,560
I love wrestling and I love movies, but I like,

2660
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:21,680
you know, they tried to make a million movies with

2661
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:24,199
fucking John c and a Randy Orton or Diana Ambrose,

2662
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:26,279
Like I've never watched any of them. Don't give a

2663
02:01:26,319 --> 02:01:28,439
shit I've ever seen like The Marine with Johnson. It's

2664
02:01:28,479 --> 02:01:31,359
like I watched John CNN wrestling. I don't need to

2665
02:01:31,399 --> 02:01:33,600
watch him in a bad straight to DVD movie, you know.

2666
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:35,640
So I don't really care about that. So when The

2667
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:39,039
Wrestler was coming out, I was kind of like, all right,

2668
02:01:39,079 --> 02:01:42,640
I'm always very wary of like depictions of pro wrestling

2669
02:01:42,800 --> 02:01:45,000
in mainstream media because it's always the exact same thing.

2670
02:01:45,039 --> 02:01:47,520
It's just someone doing a bad Randy Savage impersonation, and

2671
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:50,039
it's just like, I don't know, I'm always very skeptical

2672
02:01:50,079 --> 02:01:53,079
because it's typically not done well. But it was Aeronofsky

2673
02:01:53,479 --> 02:01:55,680
and like you know, he's very much that like, oh,

2674
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:59,560
film dorks liked Aeronofsky stuff, especially back then, and he

2675
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,920
did an incredible job. It was like, I think the

2676
02:02:03,039 --> 02:02:04,960
large majority of wrestling fans look at that movie and

2677
02:02:05,039 --> 02:02:08,239
we're like, oh no, that's they respected the business in

2678
02:02:08,319 --> 02:02:11,000
a major way. And also it's if you don't give

2679
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:12,800
a shit about wrestling at all, it's just a great movie.

2680
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,640
Do you know if he oh, sorry, no, no, go ahead.

2681
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:19,560
Speaker 1: Was he always into wrestling and wanted to make a

2682
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,760
movie about it or was it something that like something

2683
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:24,199
sparked a fascination and then he did a deep dive

2684
02:02:24,359 --> 02:02:26,079
and like, I think this is gets to the core

2685
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:26,279
of it.

2686
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:29,079
Speaker 2: I don't think he's necessarily a guy that's super into wrestling.

2687
02:02:29,319 --> 02:02:31,039
What I've always heard is he wanted to do I

2688
02:02:31,079 --> 02:02:32,920
don't know if you want to do it originally as

2689
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,039
the same movie or as just kind of companion pieces.

2690
02:02:36,079 --> 02:02:38,880
But Black Swan and The Wrestler when he was out

2691
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:40,880
around the same time, where it's like these stories about

2692
02:02:40,920 --> 02:02:44,319
this like kind of personal trauma and like sacrificing, you know,

2693
02:02:44,439 --> 02:02:45,840
for your art and stuff like that. But he wanted

2694
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:47,359
Black Swan to be the high brow one and the

2695
02:02:47,359 --> 02:02:50,159
wrestler to be the lowbrow one. But he did, like

2696
02:02:50,279 --> 02:02:51,920
you know, by all accounts, like when he was making

2697
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,920
that movie and everything, he wanted to make it authentic,

2698
02:02:54,039 --> 02:02:57,760
and like it very much reads as authentic. It's very

2699
02:02:57,880 --> 02:03:01,279
very good at that. I will say one that was

2700
02:03:01,319 --> 02:03:04,560
coming out that was it sounded extremely up my alley

2701
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:08,560
was The Expendables because it was, oh, it's Loan and

2702
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,600
Schwartzenegger and all these guys and Bruce Willis and it's

2703
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,159
just like it just kind of sucked. It's like it

2704
02:03:14,279 --> 02:03:17,800
was just boring. Just like all the coolest guys ever

2705
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:18,439
into a movie.

2706
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:20,359
Speaker 4: I think they all were like competing with who got

2707
02:03:20,399 --> 02:03:21,199
to be the coolest.

2708
02:03:22,159 --> 02:03:26,039
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's much of a good thing too, you know,

2709
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:28,479
I'm sure they all got paid very well to hang

2710
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:29,239
out with their buddies.

2711
02:03:29,319 --> 02:03:31,319
Speaker 3: But that is not what I asked at all.

2712
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,399
Speaker 4: It's not how much money they made.

2713
02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, when you watch a movie like that,

2714
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:38,760
you want one of them to be the superhero, and

2715
02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:40,000
they can't all be important.

2716
02:03:40,079 --> 02:03:41,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Stallone was definitely supposed to be like the

2717
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:44,159
guy there, but it's like it just it was just

2718
02:03:44,279 --> 02:03:46,880
a stupid movie. And like I like a good stupid movie.

2719
02:03:47,199 --> 02:03:49,319
This was a bad stupid movie. Like I think I

2720
02:03:49,359 --> 02:03:51,359
saw the third one. Maybe I might have skipped one

2721
02:03:51,359 --> 02:03:52,960
of them, but like they're just not good.

2722
02:03:53,479 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 1: Have you seen them? There's a scene that's always sunny.

2723
02:03:57,119 --> 02:04:00,680
There's an episode where they're basically just like riffing on

2724
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,720
Shyamalan movies and Charlie and Mack are trying to write

2725
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,760
a movie together. And bear in mind they have not

2726
02:04:07,039 --> 02:04:09,439
mentioned this actor the entire show. I want to say,

2727
02:04:09,479 --> 02:04:12,119
this is season seven, so this comes out of nowhere.

2728
02:04:12,239 --> 02:04:13,720
It's not like this is a bit in the show.

2729
02:04:13,880 --> 02:04:15,960
It's just in one scene they're like, you know what

2730
02:04:16,039 --> 02:04:18,279
people are doing these days. They're taking like these washed

2731
02:04:18,359 --> 02:04:20,359
up old actors and then giving them new life with

2732
02:04:20,479 --> 02:04:23,319
this like really great movie. And he's like, yeah, we

2733
02:04:23,359 --> 02:04:25,920
should do that. Who's like a really underrated actor who's

2734
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:28,000
come by hard times, who's like the most underrated actor

2735
02:04:28,039 --> 02:04:30,880
of all time. And Charlie's like Dolph Lungren Max like exactly,

2736
02:04:31,119 --> 02:04:34,600
like I ou't of know where they do it. Every

2737
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:37,439
time I think about like the Wrestler, I want to

2738
02:04:37,479 --> 02:04:39,880
say that was Mickey Yorke's first thing in a while.

2739
02:04:40,079 --> 02:04:42,279
Speaker 2: That was a big comeback thing, because yeah, big deal

2740
02:04:42,319 --> 02:04:44,039
in the early nineties and he made some weird life

2741
02:04:44,079 --> 02:04:46,239
decisions and career decisions and like tried to become a

2742
02:04:46,319 --> 02:04:47,920
boxer and then so I was like face got fucked

2743
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:50,039
up and all that, Like he was the it was

2744
02:04:50,039 --> 02:04:52,439
gonna be Nicholas Cage, which also would have been amazing,

2745
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:54,239
but work was the right choice.

2746
02:04:54,359 --> 02:04:56,479
Speaker 1: I don't think I knew that's how his face got

2747
02:04:56,680 --> 02:04:58,239
so changed so.

2748
02:04:58,319 --> 02:05:00,520
Speaker 2: Much that he tried to do a boxing run. Yeah,

2749
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:02,680
he was so bad that.

2750
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:03,920
Speaker 1: His face got pulverized.

2751
02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:07,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus Mike, you asked that, like Darrenovski being a

2752
02:05:07,880 --> 02:05:10,439
wrestling guy. You know who is a big wrestling guy

2753
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:12,159
and you see it in a lot of his stuff

2754
02:05:12,199 --> 02:05:13,039
is Tim Robinson.

2755
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think I knew that.

2756
02:05:15,119 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 2: On Detroiter's Kevin Nash, like one of my favorite dudes

2757
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:20,039
ever is his dad and uh and like I think

2758
02:05:20,079 --> 02:05:21,760
you should leave. He's got a bunch of wrestlers that

2759
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:24,479
show up in that and everything. Uh, Darby Allen, who

2760
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:27,079
you know from AW, He's like skates with Darby Allen

2761
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:29,479
has had him like any time AW is around, he's

2762
02:05:29,479 --> 02:05:30,319
always backstage.

2763
02:05:30,319 --> 02:05:33,279
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, Tim Robbinson's I can see that, Like

2764
02:05:33,479 --> 02:05:36,399
he's so much. I think he respects people who commit

2765
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:39,439
to like commit to the bit. Yeah, and like I

2766
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:42,600
feel like wrestling is like a big dramatic bit and

2767
02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:44,000
I feel like that connects with him.

2768
02:05:44,279 --> 02:05:45,880
Speaker 2: I also feel like he has a good taste because

2769
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:47,760
it's like like he got Kevin Nash to be his

2770
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:49,640
dad in the show, and I'm like, all right, that's

2771
02:05:49,640 --> 02:05:51,359
like the coolest guy you could have possibly picked.

2772
02:05:51,439 --> 02:05:54,119
Speaker 1: So I would like to meet Tim Robinson. This is

2773
02:05:54,279 --> 02:05:56,399
extremely an aside, but I was watching him and Zach

2774
02:05:56,479 --> 02:05:59,479
Canaan went on seth Myers, and I saw a clip

2775
02:06:00,079 --> 02:06:01,560
and they were doing the thing where it's like, oh,

2776
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:05,279
what are some sets like? Or Tim Robinson Zach Canaan,

2777
02:06:05,279 --> 02:06:07,439
who wrote helps write I think you should leave. He

2778
02:06:07,479 --> 02:06:09,840
also plays in the show. And same with the Chair Company.

2779
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:12,960
Every once in a while they're like, yeah, none of

2780
02:06:13,039 --> 02:06:15,319
our SNL skits ever got accepted, like maybe on the

2781
02:06:15,399 --> 02:06:17,560
back end of an episode, and sets like how about this.

2782
02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:18,840
You pitch me one of them and I'll tell you

2783
02:06:18,880 --> 02:06:20,920
why it didn't make it, And so they're like, okay,

2784
02:06:21,640 --> 02:06:25,760
So they had one where basically this like legendary really

2785
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:31,880
well respected, dignitary senator was on his deathbed and he's

2786
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:35,680
just like there are other senators showing up, and ambassadors

2787
02:06:35,720 --> 02:06:37,800
are coming to his hospital room to say goodbye, Like

2788
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:42,800
just this like class act dude who everybody just like

2789
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:46,279
looks up to as a like an example of a

2790
02:06:46,359 --> 02:06:49,359
good human being. His family's there, his friends are there,

2791
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:52,279
and he's just like just really facing death in a

2792
02:06:52,319 --> 02:06:56,439
really dignified way. But then with all these people surrounding,

2793
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:58,800
he actually starts to finally die and he just starts

2794
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:02,079
screaming at the top of his life, shouting, and apparently

2795
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:05,760
to Robinson said, the thing he keeps repeating is, holy shit,

2796
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:07,039
this fucking sucks.

2797
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:14,479
Speaker 2: That sounds way more like a Mister Show sketch. Yeah,

2798
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:18,159
like that every thing where It's like, I'm sure NBC

2799
02:07:18,319 --> 02:07:20,000
when you get like, you know, Lauren Michaels and all

2800
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:21,920
these kind of like older corporate guys around, you probably

2801
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:23,680
can't do, but like a Mister Show type thing.

2802
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, or what did Showalter and Michael ian Black? What

2803
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:30,039
was their thing they did? Stella? Stella was very goofy.

2804
02:07:32,159 --> 02:07:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the state was earlier and everything.

2805
02:07:34,279 --> 02:07:37,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyway, sorry, Mary, do you have any things

2806
02:07:37,279 --> 02:07:38,800
are confluences.

2807
02:07:38,199 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 3: Of I'll say one, which is Ohio is known for

2808
02:07:42,399 --> 02:07:46,159
a lot of TV shows and movies. It just seems

2809
02:07:46,199 --> 02:07:48,640
like it's a great place to be, Like what is traditional,

2810
02:07:50,079 --> 02:07:53,960
you know, Midwest Americana feel like. And I think there's

2811
02:07:54,079 --> 02:07:58,640
no movie that embodies that better than Tommy Boy. Tommy

2812
02:07:58,720 --> 02:08:02,399
Boy is not just a real good reflection of Ohio culture,

2813
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:03,880
but Ohio people.

2814
02:08:04,479 --> 02:08:05,439
Speaker 4: There's a lot of.

2815
02:08:07,159 --> 02:08:12,279
Speaker 3: Blue collar workers, factory workers every day Joe's in that movie,

2816
02:08:12,399 --> 02:08:14,520
that are not this is not like looked down upon.

2817
02:08:14,640 --> 02:08:17,119
These are like people who give a shit, and so

2818
02:08:17,239 --> 02:08:20,760
the joke is not about them or the livelihoods. It's

2819
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:25,279
just about what a fucking dumb shit Tommy is. Stupid

2820
02:08:25,319 --> 02:08:27,039
little kidd heus where.

2821
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:31,279
Speaker 4: He looks into that thing and he says, Duke, I

2822
02:08:31,439 --> 02:08:32,960
am your father.

2823
02:08:33,399 --> 02:08:35,359
Speaker 3: And they catch him being such a little dumb shit.

2824
02:08:35,439 --> 02:08:38,399
I was like, oh no, that's me, Like this is

2825
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,640
I'm such an idiot and I have to be.

2826
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:42,880
Speaker 4: A business person now and I have to make money

2827
02:08:43,039 --> 02:08:43,239
and I.

2828
02:08:43,439 --> 02:08:47,039
Speaker 3: Have to be important, and there are days where I'm like,

2829
02:08:47,199 --> 02:08:49,479
I don't I don't deserve any of this because I

2830
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:53,479
am I am stupid. I am just a stupid person

2831
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:57,079
that somehow has to continue to make a mortgage. And

2832
02:08:57,159 --> 02:08:59,439
so here we are. But I think Tommy Boy, I

2833
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:02,520
feel really seen by that entire film, not just Ohio,

2834
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:06,439
which it is like prolific to have a drive that

2835
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:09,159
flat where you don't see a hill or a mountain

2836
02:09:09,279 --> 02:09:12,800
for hours, that's like so Ohio, but also just his

2837
02:09:13,039 --> 02:09:15,479
character and the way he exists in that film is

2838
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:16,840
like very important to me.

2839
02:09:17,359 --> 02:09:19,319
Speaker 2: That movie we watched, me and Bach watched like maybe

2840
02:09:19,319 --> 02:09:21,039
four or five years ago, and it aged a lot

2841
02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:22,960
better than I expected. And there are things I forgot

2842
02:09:23,079 --> 02:09:24,920
where it's like you talk about the different characters that

2843
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,399
are like dan Aykroyd being like the slimy Midwest you know,

2844
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:31,119
car dealership owner. It's like, oh, this is good. It's

2845
02:09:31,199 --> 02:09:33,439
like I don't remember a lot of like like that's

2846
02:09:33,439 --> 02:09:35,199
always the thing with like a comedy, especially from like

2847
02:09:35,239 --> 02:09:36,119
the nineties and earlier.

2848
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:40,439
Speaker 3: You're like, uh, wasn't that bad?

2849
02:09:40,640 --> 02:09:40,880
Speaker 1: Really?

2850
02:09:42,039 --> 02:09:43,760
Speaker 2: I walked away from it being like I'm glad it

2851
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:44,560
aged that way.

2852
02:09:45,079 --> 02:09:47,199
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, Chris Farley could pull off clean

2853
02:09:47,319 --> 02:09:49,880
humor oh quote unquote clean humor, just because he's such

2854
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:52,960
a physical presence, not that he wasn't ever getting dirty,

2855
02:09:53,000 --> 02:09:53,279
but like.

2856
02:09:54,479 --> 02:09:56,520
Speaker 2: He could be like in like a kid's movie in

2857
02:09:56,720 --> 02:09:58,560
the physical force of Nature, you.

2858
02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:02,319
Speaker 3: Could find a way. Yeah, uh yeah, Beverly Hills Nincha's

2859
02:10:02,399 --> 02:10:04,119
like all slapstick stupid.

2860
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 1: But that did that.

2861
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:09,000
Speaker 2: That movie taught me what a pimp was because he

2862
02:10:09,279 --> 02:10:10,840
gets a jacket at some point and it's got like

2863
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:13,800
the tiger or whatever print and somebody says that he

2864
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:15,640
looks like a pimp or something. And we're turning to

2865
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,560
my grandma at the time, being Grandma, what's a pimp.

2866
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:19,359
Speaker 1: It's a.

2867
02:10:22,079 --> 02:10:27,359
Speaker 2: She said, it's a man that slaps women. God, So

2868
02:10:27,439 --> 02:10:29,319
that's what I thought it was for a while. I

2869
02:10:29,399 --> 02:10:32,000
mean in a way, I mean I see why she

2870
02:10:32,159 --> 02:10:34,159
was trying to like say kind of what it was

2871
02:10:34,239 --> 02:10:35,119
without saying what it was.

2872
02:10:35,319 --> 02:10:37,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I told you this.

2873
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:40,640
Speaker 3: But in Amsterdam when we did our first the first

2874
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:42,439
time I ever went to Amsterdam for work, and we

2875
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:45,960
did a little tour, the tour guy said, when the

2876
02:10:46,119 --> 02:10:50,239
children first come, you know, down in the city and

2877
02:10:50,319 --> 02:10:53,039
they see all the girls, the teachers tell them they're

2878
02:10:53,079 --> 02:10:58,880
selling kisses. And I was like, that's an acceptable format

2879
02:10:59,359 --> 02:11:00,439
for type thing.

2880
02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 1: Okay, yeahs that's why she didn't.

2881
02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:08,960
Speaker 2: Say I need tim.

2882
02:11:09,079 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 4: They're selling butthole kisses.

2883
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:17,920
Speaker 1: Okay, just just a little smooch on your touch. I learned.

2884
02:11:18,439 --> 02:11:21,239
Speaker 4: I learned a lot in the in the third grade.

2885
02:11:22,439 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tyler. Dan. You want to read, Oh shit,

2886
02:11:27,720 --> 02:11:29,079
I'll get the if you want to start it, I'll

2887
02:11:29,079 --> 02:11:30,319
get the It's from Dalton.

2888
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:38,479
Speaker 2: Uh, Dalton's his name's not on here? Are you fool? Okay,

2889
02:11:38,520 --> 02:11:41,840
he's typing in adult adult. I can't confirm yet. Okay,

2890
02:11:42,479 --> 02:11:45,920
Dalton with two l's. That's insane, Dalton. Mike fixed this? Okay,

2891
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:50,760
Oh thank god. Okay, Dalton says, are there Mike still typing?

2892
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:51,760
This is a great bit.

2893
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:55,520
Speaker 1: Are there any ongoing doesn't even play on video?

2894
02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:59,760
Speaker 5: It's just a document that no one can It doesn't

2895
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:02,039
even play with me seeing exactly what you're doing.

2896
02:12:04,520 --> 02:12:11,399
Speaker 2: No joke, And I'm like over it already, Dalton says,

2897
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:14,760
are there any ongoing gaming complaints? You're just tired of

2898
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:17,079
hearing at this point? Mine is, I'm so tired of

2899
02:12:17,119 --> 02:12:19,680
hearing people talk about Final Fantasy going back to turn based.

2900
02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:22,640
Final Fantasy hasn't been turn based in twenty five years, guys,

2901
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:25,039
let it go. It has not been turn based longer

2902
02:12:25,079 --> 02:12:27,760
than it was turn based. The last turn based Final

2903
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:29,800
Fantasy game was Final Fantasy ten on the PS two.

2904
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:34,560
Squiring Enix has other turn based games, Dragon Quest, Bravely, Default, Octopath.

2905
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:36,880
Speaker 1: Come on, that is Dalton?

2906
02:12:37,239 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 2: Fuck you? You fucking pussy is that can't be his name?

2907
02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 5: Mike?

2908
02:12:41,039 --> 02:12:41,359
Speaker 1: Why do you?

2909
02:12:42,359 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 2: Why does that say that in all caps?

2910
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:47,000
Speaker 1: It's just insulting you while you read it?

2911
02:12:47,680 --> 02:12:49,199
Speaker 2: My sorry Dalton?

2912
02:12:50,119 --> 02:12:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's a what's a complaint that a lot of

2913
02:12:51,880 --> 02:12:53,640
people share? Like what somebody you say on Red Air?

2914
02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:54,319
What's something like that?

2915
02:12:54,399 --> 02:12:58,359
Speaker 3: I mean, here's a classic one, which is yellow tape

2916
02:12:58,479 --> 02:13:02,920
or fly This is stupid, but it's like obviously so helpful.

2917
02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:05,800
You'd be so many people would be lost. You genuinely

2918
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:08,079
would not enjoy an experience that didn't give you a

2919
02:13:08,119 --> 02:13:10,640
little bit of guidance. I think sometimes it can be overdone,

2920
02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:12,479
but like, so can that complaint?

2921
02:13:12,640 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 1: Like because otherwise, aside from that, God of War would

2922
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:19,239
be a masterpiece of literary ambitions.

2923
02:13:20,199 --> 02:13:23,359
Speaker 3: Wid is like I think we're supposed to turn the

2924
02:13:23,479 --> 02:13:24,640
clock clockwise.

2925
02:13:25,399 --> 02:13:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe you could break through the wall.

2926
02:13:31,039 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 5: It's about fatherhood and the yellow paint doesn't fatherhood, responsibility,

2927
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:41,199
that the responsibilities and how you can't escape your past

2928
02:13:41,279 --> 02:13:44,039
you have to confront it through.

2929
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 2: I feel like I see more complaints from like because

2930
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:53,680
I didn't really see like the average like comments or controversies,

2931
02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:56,680
Like I feel like Manati is my controversy whisperer, So

2932
02:13:57,359 --> 02:13:58,359
I don't really see.

2933
02:13:58,199 --> 02:14:00,199
Speaker 4: It's Manati been complaining about recent.

2934
02:14:00,159 --> 02:14:02,479
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, well, he reads every comment that's ever

2935
02:14:02,560 --> 02:14:03,199
been on the internet.

2936
02:14:03,560 --> 02:14:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's you know, what's what's he picking up?

2937
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:07,960
Speaker 2: Every once in a while, everyone's mad about fast and

2938
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:09,600
I'll be like, what the fuck, what is it?

2939
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:10,439
Speaker 3: Tell me one?

2940
02:14:11,319 --> 02:14:14,119
Speaker 2: Uh oh, you're saying people are mad about Metroid and

2941
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:17,319
Metroid Prime trailer. They showed too much of like the

2942
02:14:17,439 --> 02:14:19,279
bike is in the desert too much, and the world

2943
02:14:19,359 --> 02:14:21,960
looks empty or something, and it's like it all just

2944
02:14:22,039 --> 02:14:24,279
sounds to me, like like the Puddle Gate shit or

2945
02:14:24,319 --> 02:14:28,359
whatever of Spider Man Spider Man thing where the puddles

2946
02:14:28,399 --> 02:14:29,960
got too small or something.

2947
02:14:30,359 --> 02:14:31,359
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know.

2948
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:34,039
Speaker 2: I love video games more than anything like in the world.

2949
02:14:34,199 --> 02:14:36,880
It's given me my entire life and everything until I

2950
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,640
met my wife. It's just my entire career. It's just

2951
02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:40,920
people get too fucking how.

2952
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:43,119
Speaker 4: You won twenty five hundred miles.

2953
02:14:43,560 --> 02:14:46,399
Speaker 2: That was separate. No, I would leave McDonald's no matter

2954
02:14:46,479 --> 02:14:48,720
what the fuck I was doing, Mary, that had nothing

2955
02:14:48,760 --> 02:14:52,119
to do with video games. I would have had that

2956
02:14:52,239 --> 02:14:53,680
McDonald's piece no matter.

2957
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:59,039
Speaker 3: What, no matter what differences in your life.

2958
02:14:59,159 --> 02:15:02,279
Speaker 2: Could be working out fucking gas station on Shawnee Mission Parkway,

2959
02:15:02,399 --> 02:15:04,600
and I would absolutely still win that thing.

2960
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:07,560
Speaker 1: But my this isn't really a complaint. It's kind of

2961
02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:11,000
a complaint. And I'm I remember I remember one specific

2962
02:15:11,079 --> 02:15:12,560
Game of the Year meeting. We had a game spot

2963
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:15,239
where this like the detractors of Breath of the Wild.

2964
02:15:15,319 --> 02:15:18,880
We're using the argument that it's not a Zelda game,

2965
02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:25,119
Like it's not, it's not like it's the most And

2966
02:15:25,159 --> 02:15:27,439
then you're like, that is the most Zelda game, since

2967
02:15:28,119 --> 02:15:30,039
this is what they would have made with the first

2968
02:15:30,119 --> 02:15:32,760
game if they had the technology and the design chops,

2969
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:34,680
and but like people were like, no, it's not, that's

2970
02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:36,600
not like what a Zelda game is. I'm like, well, hey,

2971
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:43,079
you're you're making every you're making every your pities. Yeah yeah,

2972
02:15:43,520 --> 02:15:45,920
but also like yes, it fucking is so like I

2973
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:47,920
don't know, it's I mean it's it's that shit is

2974
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:50,239
insane to me because like Okerina Time one of the

2975
02:15:50,279 --> 02:15:52,239
best games of all time, probably my top ten ever,

2976
02:15:53,039 --> 02:15:56,399
Breath of the Wild is more the original Zelda than

2977
02:15:56,439 --> 02:15:57,279
Okerina of Time is.

2978
02:15:57,439 --> 02:15:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's a fucking horseshed argument.

2979
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:06,039
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, it annoyed me. Also throw out like remember.

2980
02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:08,760
Speaker 3: That too hard. It should have like it should have

2981
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,039
more options to play it easier. I think if a

2982
02:16:11,159 --> 02:16:13,840
game is if the developers have designed it to be

2983
02:16:14,159 --> 02:16:16,520
very very difficult, that is like their m O.

2984
02:16:17,359 --> 02:16:20,760
Speaker 4: Yes, that is totally fine. That game is allowed to

2985
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:21,560
be very difficult.

2986
02:16:22,359 --> 02:16:24,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like that comes from like like there's

2987
02:16:24,439 --> 02:16:27,119
stuff where you get a bunch of people talking about

2988
02:16:27,239 --> 02:16:29,720
like oh, when Bey and Atta first came out, it

2989
02:16:29,800 --> 02:16:31,760
was like, oh, they had a one button easy mode

2990
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:33,159
if you just want to see the cool stuff and

2991
02:16:33,280 --> 02:16:35,079
you don't want to you're not good at games. And

2992
02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:37,479
people got mad about that. And then Elder Ring comes

2993
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:39,319
out and it's like, oh it's too hard, and people

2994
02:16:39,319 --> 02:16:42,760
get mad about it. Shut play it, play it.

2995
02:16:43,159 --> 02:16:44,239
Speaker 1: It doesn't not every game.

2996
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:47,719
Speaker 3: It's for you, you know, And I I feel it

2997
02:16:47,799 --> 02:16:49,680
on both ends, Like I think it's so cool that

2998
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:51,360
you said the other end of the spectrum, too, which

2999
02:16:51,440 --> 02:16:53,000
is like the game's too easy and it's like shut.

3000
02:16:52,920 --> 02:16:56,920
Speaker 2: Up, that's kind of mya. There was something like this

3001
02:16:57,239 --> 02:16:59,639
year that was like really hard, and it sparked a

3002
02:16:59,639 --> 02:17:02,000
bunch of fucking think pieces and stuff and social media

3003
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:03,920
bullshit about like, oh it's too.

3004
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:05,959
Speaker 1: Hard Hollow Night too.

3005
02:17:06,600 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well don't play solk song.

3006
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:10,680
Speaker 1: So sorry.

3007
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:15,479
Speaker 3: Not it's called silk Song, Hollow Night, soil song. But yeah,

3008
02:17:15,520 --> 02:17:18,440
it's like you sorry, Bud, Like sorry, the game is

3009
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:20,479
is extremely challenging.

3010
02:17:20,639 --> 02:17:22,719
Speaker 4: Some people find that very rewarding, like.

3011
02:17:23,479 --> 02:17:26,000
Speaker 2: Perrying, I don't play Sechiro. It's not ruining my day,

3012
02:17:26,319 --> 02:17:28,360
you know, just there's a lot of games out there.

3013
02:17:28,479 --> 02:17:29,559
Speaker 3: I have low self esteem.

3014
02:17:29,639 --> 02:17:30,840
Speaker 4: I didn't finish elden Ring.

3015
02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:33,239
Speaker 3: That's just the way it is sometimes and.

3016
02:17:33,319 --> 02:17:36,159
Speaker 2: You're doing fine, it's like it's thank you, but I'm

3017
02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:36,559
not going to.

3018
02:17:36,559 --> 02:17:38,840
Speaker 4: Sit there and be like the game is wrong. It's like, no,

3019
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:40,719
it just wasn't for me, and that's okay.

3020
02:17:41,079 --> 02:17:42,959
Speaker 3: I do think you can still have criticisms of it,

3021
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:46,479
which is just like, hey, like the difficulty spikes for

3022
02:17:46,559 --> 02:17:48,600
this were a little too much for me, Like I

3023
02:17:48,760 --> 02:17:51,200
found that challenging. I think that's fair, but to just

3024
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:54,079
say this game should be easier is not a valid

3025
02:17:54,159 --> 02:17:55,719
criticism and kind of annoys me.

3026
02:17:56,920 --> 02:17:58,559
Speaker 2: I mean that came up, Yeah, solks Soong came up

3027
02:17:58,559 --> 02:17:59,920
a lot, and there were as much as I fuck

3028
02:18:00,159 --> 02:18:02,479
love folk song, there were boss fights where I was

3029
02:18:02,600 --> 02:18:05,319
just like, man, really got to hit this guy like

3030
02:18:05,479 --> 02:18:09,000
twenty five more times. Yeah, Like, but it's like, Okay, well,

3031
02:18:09,319 --> 02:18:10,440
do you want to keep playing it or not?

3032
02:18:11,079 --> 02:18:11,319
Speaker 1: Sure?

3033
02:18:11,639 --> 02:18:15,120
Speaker 3: Also, maybe, and this will come up later, but like

3034
02:18:15,360 --> 02:18:18,200
maybe you needed to grind in some other place and

3035
02:18:18,280 --> 02:18:22,040
sharpen your needle more. Maybe you needed a different badge

3036
02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:25,920
that would have let you have like a faster speed

3037
02:18:26,159 --> 02:18:28,399
or a quadruple jump, and that would have also help

3038
02:18:28,559 --> 02:18:31,319
helped with that boss fight. I suffered on a boss

3039
02:18:31,399 --> 02:18:33,879
for like three hours, and then I found out that

3040
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:37,920
I really really really needed that triple.

3041
02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:40,000
Speaker 4: Jump dash and I didn't have it. So I was

3042
02:18:40,120 --> 02:18:43,040
just kind of I was like so convinced that this.

3043
02:18:43,120 --> 02:18:45,719
Speaker 3: Boss was broken, and it was just like user error

3044
02:18:46,040 --> 02:18:49,000
that happens all the time. That game humbles the shit

3045
02:18:49,120 --> 02:18:49,520
out of me.

3046
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:53,959
Speaker 4: So I find it a little exhausting for someone to

3047
02:18:54,079 --> 02:18:54,959
just be like too hard.

3048
02:18:55,079 --> 02:18:58,360
Speaker 3: She's like, well, did you did you try? Are you good?

3049
02:18:59,239 --> 02:19:01,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think that game has bigger problems than difficulty.

3050
02:19:04,440 --> 02:19:06,680
I think I think we glazed Team Cherry too much.

3051
02:19:06,719 --> 02:19:09,920
That's a whole other thing. No, I like that game

3052
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:12,920
quite a bit the other day. It's a fucking video game.

3053
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:17,200
Speaker 3: Go get some real problems, get go get a mortgage.

3054
02:19:17,639 --> 02:19:20,239
Speaker 2: It's just it's a fucking just put down the controller

3055
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:21,559
and go figure out your life.

3056
02:19:21,799 --> 02:19:25,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go get out hospital bill and if you

3057
02:19:25,159 --> 02:19:33,600
can't get yeah, fucking babies. Thank you. Okay, Now that

3058
02:19:33,680 --> 02:19:36,520
we ramped up with that, uh more, Uh what a

3059
02:19:36,639 --> 02:19:39,639
fun one antagonistic question, Let's get to a very heavy one.

3060
02:19:39,799 --> 02:19:42,360
Hey there, what's the most important element of a trail mix?

3061
02:19:42,479 --> 02:19:46,760
Thanks West from Baltimore. Oh, I've we finished our wirery watch.

3062
02:19:46,799 --> 02:19:48,840
I've been I've been trying to say Baltimore like they

3063
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:50,639
do Baltimore, Baltimore.

3064
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:53,399
Speaker 2: You've been trying on mirror trying.

3065
02:19:53,719 --> 02:19:56,639
Speaker 1: I noticed, like they can dialect in the in the

3066
02:19:56,840 --> 02:20:00,040
show all the like locals say like Baltimore. They I

3067
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:03,600
don't say Baltimore, and I have nothing from Baltimore, so

3068
02:20:03,719 --> 02:20:05,680
I know, I'm just no, I'm not trying to say

3069
02:20:05,719 --> 02:20:08,760
it like normally to sound cool, literally trying to physically

3070
02:20:08,799 --> 02:20:11,520
say it. It's hard for my mouth to say, no,

3071
02:20:11,639 --> 02:20:13,239
it's not it, No, it's not it.

3072
02:20:15,079 --> 02:20:17,520
Speaker 2: Do you know Mike Manatti can't say chimney because his

3073
02:20:17,639 --> 02:20:21,040
brain goes into chimney from like Jim Jimminy Jim Jimminy.

3074
02:20:21,840 --> 02:20:24,319
Speaker 1: Disney stuff doesn't surprise me.

3075
02:20:24,840 --> 02:20:26,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure if he's slowed down he could

3076
02:20:26,760 --> 02:20:27,079
say it.

3077
02:20:27,399 --> 02:20:30,280
Speaker 2: He's tried probably a hundred times on Giant Bomb and

3078
02:20:30,399 --> 02:20:31,680
failed a hundred times.

3079
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:33,000
Speaker 1: I think it's all for show.

3080
02:20:33,559 --> 02:20:37,319
Speaker 2: It's probably you don't know, Mike Manattier.

3081
02:20:36,799 --> 02:20:38,840
Speaker 3: For a stretch goal, I'll say chimney.

3082
02:20:38,559 --> 02:20:50,559
Speaker 1: Correctly at some point. I love Mike naughty. I'm so sorry.

3083
02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:55,280
Speaker 2: I did during the Bob on her. Beforehand, I was like, Mike,

3084
02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:58,120
what's the number for? Like, what is the crazy incentive

3085
02:20:58,200 --> 02:20:59,319
to get you to eat an apple?

3086
02:20:59,559 --> 02:21:00,319
Speaker 1: On and stream?

3087
02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:04,040
Speaker 2: He said, there's not a number, Like, I I know

3088
02:21:04,120 --> 02:21:05,159
it's not a bit.

3089
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think that's a bit.

3090
02:21:06,799 --> 02:21:08,319
I know people. I know someone who was like that

3091
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:10,079
with bananas when I was younger. We thought it was

3092
02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:12,280
a bit, and I'm ashamed to say I like played

3093
02:21:12,319 --> 02:21:13,879
a prank on him with a banana and it.

3094
02:21:14,280 --> 02:21:15,280
Speaker 2: No good freaked out.

3095
02:21:15,360 --> 02:21:15,399
Speaker 5: No.

3096
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:17,840
Speaker 1: I to be clear, I was like twelve, and I

3097
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:18,639
learned my lesson.

3098
02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:22,399
Speaker 2: I was going to do that where I was going

3099
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:23,879
to present him with a bunch of fruit and stuff

3100
02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:25,680
and like, no, it's like a like real phobia.

3101
02:21:26,159 --> 02:21:28,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, not fun. I learned after I was once I

3102
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:31,040
was thirteen not to do that. But like I put aim,

3103
02:21:31,719 --> 02:21:34,399
it wasn't even a creative prank. I just like our friend.

3104
02:21:34,959 --> 02:21:37,079
He was a friend who did amp up. He he

3105
02:21:37,159 --> 02:21:39,120
exaggerated a lot of stories and whatnot. So I thought

3106
02:21:39,159 --> 02:21:42,879
he was being doing the same thing with his fear

3107
02:21:42,920 --> 02:21:46,120
of bananas, like just being around them. So I like

3108
02:21:46,239 --> 02:21:49,840
snuck a banana into his glovebox while in like sorry,

3109
02:21:49,879 --> 02:21:52,200
not his glovebox, his like what do you want to

3110
02:21:52,239 --> 02:21:55,920
call his like a basketball gym bag. The glovebox was

3111
02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:58,159
a separate prank later on in life to someone else

3112
02:21:59,360 --> 02:22:01,319
did not with a phobia, but he like opened his

3113
02:22:01,399 --> 02:22:05,000
gym bag and like hyperventilated.

3114
02:22:05,840 --> 02:22:06,760
Speaker 2: When you do that stuff.

3115
02:22:06,840 --> 02:22:09,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time. I was fucking twelve.

3116
02:22:09,239 --> 02:22:12,159
I'm gonna go back through your childhood and find no,

3117
02:22:12,319 --> 02:22:12,760
I told.

3118
02:22:12,639 --> 02:22:14,760
Speaker 2: You, I get fired as a babysitter right from the

3119
02:22:15,319 --> 02:22:20,360
bee prank. This rings a slight bell, the short one.

3120
02:22:20,680 --> 02:22:23,639
I was babysitting the neighbor kids. There are three kids,

3121
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:26,680
and the youngest one, Nick was uh he was like

3122
02:22:26,719 --> 02:22:28,639
a pread of bees or something or actually, I don't

3123
02:22:28,639 --> 02:22:30,079
even think he said that. I think he was just

3124
02:22:30,159 --> 02:22:32,440
a kid, and kids don't like bees, including myself.

3125
02:22:32,479 --> 02:22:34,079
Speaker 1: I don't think adults like bees either.

3126
02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, take it back. I don't think

3127
02:22:35,840 --> 02:22:37,280
it was a phobia thing. I think we were just

3128
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:41,000
walking to the pool in the neighborhood and I was like, oh, Nick,

3129
02:22:41,079 --> 02:22:42,680
oh god, you gotta bee. You gotta be on the

3130
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:44,600
back of your head or something, and he just lost

3131
02:22:44,719 --> 02:22:47,000
his fucking mind and burst out crying and was the

3132
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:49,159
whole thing. And he told his mom, Yeah, you could.

3133
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:49,600
Speaker 1: Tell us about this.

3134
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was also that I ate the whole

3135
02:22:51,399 --> 02:22:53,040
box of cheese its, And so I think I can't

3136
02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:55,680
remember which one was the one that actually got me fired,

3137
02:22:55,719 --> 02:22:58,280
but uh, yeah, don't do that one.

3138
02:23:00,319 --> 02:23:01,760
Speaker 3: Traumatize my child.

3139
02:23:02,559 --> 02:23:05,559
Speaker 1: Uh yeah.

3140
02:23:05,639 --> 02:23:07,799
Speaker 3: So I was in a good babysitter either. I once

3141
02:23:07,920 --> 02:23:09,600
let them out on the roof and I said, don't

3142
02:23:09,639 --> 02:23:12,000
tell your parents. And then the next day, the dad

3143
02:23:12,079 --> 02:23:13,760
took me aside and was like, you took them out

3144
02:23:13,799 --> 02:23:15,520
on the roof, didn't you? And I said, yeah, no,

3145
02:23:17,840 --> 02:23:19,200
And then I looked at the kid and I said,

3146
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:25,479
I'm gonna fucking kill you. Yeah, but watching Blues Clues again,

3147
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:26,280
you little cunt.

3148
02:23:26,680 --> 02:23:30,239
Speaker 1: No. I believe Mike when he says he doesn't like apples.

3149
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:33,479
I have seen it close. But I'm though, what is

3150
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,799
the most important part of a trail mix? Oh? Not raisins.

3151
02:23:38,360 --> 02:23:38,920
There's a lot of.

3152
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:45,040
Speaker 4: Different are not really something that I ever enjoy.

3153
02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:49,040
Speaker 3: I will say that, uh an oatmeal, raisin cookies fresh

3154
02:23:49,079 --> 02:23:49,600
from the oven.

3155
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:51,399
Speaker 4: I can be like, yeah, I'm into this.

3156
02:23:51,799 --> 02:23:53,399
Speaker 2: It could be a good component. But like when you

3157
02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:55,440
think about being a kid, like you were always confronted with,

3158
02:23:55,559 --> 02:23:57,479
like I just have a box of raisins, Who the

3159
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,520
fuck is like eating boxes of resk?

3160
02:24:00,159 --> 02:24:01,239
Speaker 4: Some questions for adult?

3161
02:24:01,399 --> 02:24:06,920
Speaker 1: You dant the little raisins, the little California boxes? Hell, yeah, baby,

3162
02:24:07,559 --> 02:24:08,280
do you eat?

3163
02:24:08,920 --> 02:24:09,040
Speaker 5: Oh?

3164
02:24:09,079 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't know now anymore? They weren't they sell them anymore?

3165
02:24:12,040 --> 02:24:15,120
They absolutely sell raisins, I promise you. Is the red

3166
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:18,200
box with a lady on it? Like yellow? Was it

3167
02:24:18,280 --> 02:24:20,920
red with a yellow sun? And the yellow.

3168
02:24:21,559 --> 02:24:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Rais nineteen ninety six is

3169
02:24:25,440 --> 02:24:26,559
the last time I've seen one of these.

3170
02:24:27,680 --> 02:24:28,760
Speaker 3: I've seen raisins.

3171
02:24:30,239 --> 02:24:33,239
Speaker 1: Maybe they're in like, maybe they're in bags. Maybe they're

3172
02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:35,600
in gummy bags. Oh wait a minute, how did I

3173
02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:37,639
not bring this up yet? Speaking of Amazon, which one

3174
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:40,159
of you fuckers sent me ten bottles of mustard in

3175
02:24:40,280 --> 02:24:44,959
an unmarked box. It seems like a merry thing.

3176
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:48,680
Speaker 3: That could be anyone, but it is absolutely dass.

3177
02:24:48,799 --> 02:24:50,760
Speaker 1: I got a package that just said Mike Maharty. There's

3178
02:24:50,799 --> 02:24:53,239
no return address, just said Amazon Fulfillment Services. And I

3179
02:24:53,319 --> 02:24:57,920
open it and it's it's ten bottles of mustard. Ten Yes,

3180
02:24:58,040 --> 02:25:00,959
I counted them, and it was like very like.

3181
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:03,399
Speaker 2: Models mustard.

3182
02:25:03,680 --> 02:25:07,559
Speaker 1: Don't send me any more shit too much. I have

3183
02:25:07,719 --> 02:25:10,399
to bring it down four flights of stairs to the trash.

3184
02:25:10,639 --> 02:25:13,639
That sounds really annoying. Yeah, you the only reason you

3185
02:25:13,719 --> 02:25:16,079
didn't send me the whole fuel drum of chocolate syrup

3186
02:25:16,159 --> 02:25:19,079
is because Bianca talked you out of it, and she said,

3187
02:25:19,120 --> 02:25:21,280
a reminder, you're playing the prank on Amanda too. You

3188
02:25:21,360 --> 02:25:25,760
think that I think you're thinking of Tim Turry. Don't

3189
02:25:25,959 --> 02:25:28,440
send me any more mustard. No, that sounds really annoying.

3190
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:32,120
I'll go toe to toe with you in terms of

3191
02:25:32,280 --> 02:25:33,000
how annoying I.

3192
02:25:33,000 --> 02:25:35,559
Speaker 3: Can be someone's getting Raisins.

3193
02:25:37,239 --> 02:25:39,799
Speaker 1: I would I would welcome a box that size of Raisins.

3194
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:44,120
I like Raisins a lot worse than Ladybugs. That was,

3195
02:25:44,399 --> 02:25:48,360
I will admit, very funny. What was it a one

3196
02:25:48,399 --> 02:25:51,120
thousand or twenty five hundred or something bugs? But that

3197
02:25:51,239 --> 02:25:54,879
was back when I was immature. I don't know who

3198
02:25:54,920 --> 02:25:59,399
sent the mustard. Yeah, I assume you're on stream and

3199
02:25:59,479 --> 02:26:01,639
someone's like, hey, Dan, this mustard's on sale for US

3200
02:26:01,639 --> 02:26:06,040
scent each bottle on Amazon. I think raisins play an

3201
02:26:06,040 --> 02:26:08,079
important part in trail mix because they alter the textures.

3202
02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:09,399
You get a bit of chew in there. It's not

3203
02:26:09,479 --> 02:26:10,159
all just crunch.

3204
02:26:10,879 --> 02:26:13,760
Speaker 2: But they're not even gross. They're just annoying, like raisins,

3205
02:26:13,840 --> 02:26:17,879
like the flavor's fine at best. I feel like, if

3206
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:20,639
you're making a trail mix thing, why wouldn't everything be good?

3207
02:26:20,680 --> 02:26:22,840
Because I feel like there's always that Why I want

3208
02:26:22,879 --> 02:26:23,399
the pretzel.

3209
02:26:23,799 --> 02:26:27,120
Speaker 1: Well, peanuts are literal, like people use peanuts as a

3210
02:26:27,319 --> 02:26:29,200
metaphor for things that are just filler.

3211
02:26:29,799 --> 02:26:30,760
Speaker 2: I think peanuts are great.

3212
02:26:30,959 --> 02:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I like peanuts. I don't think they're my favorite part, though,

3213
02:26:32,879 --> 02:26:35,479
Like i'd rather I'd rather take the peanuts out than

3214
02:26:35,479 --> 02:26:36,000
the raisins.

3215
02:26:37,239 --> 02:26:38,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy.

3216
02:26:38,399 --> 02:26:41,079
Speaker 1: No, what trail mikes are we talking here? This one

3217
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:42,000
with like M and m's in it.

3218
02:26:42,639 --> 02:26:49,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I sums cash cashewsh not have cash is peanuts.

3219
02:26:49,360 --> 02:26:55,200
Speaker 1: I think walnuts are in there. Sometimes pineapple smells ones

3220
02:26:55,239 --> 02:26:56,760
with a bigger one on one end, like they're like

3221
02:26:56,799 --> 02:26:59,959
a decu nut or no, sorry, the decu the spiral

3222
02:27:00,159 --> 02:27:02,639
thing you get the beginning, the spiritual stone of the forest.

3223
02:27:04,079 --> 02:27:06,719
Speaker 2: I only want these things if they involve pretzels.

3224
02:27:06,879 --> 02:27:09,879
Speaker 1: Walnuts look like brains from up top. But walnuts are well,

3225
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:10,440
n'ts a lot.

3226
02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:13,959
Speaker 2: Kind of like nut variety stuff like pecans, walnuts, all

3227
02:27:13,959 --> 02:27:14,559
that stuff's great.

3228
02:27:14,559 --> 02:27:14,959
Speaker 1: Almonds.

3229
02:27:15,079 --> 02:27:18,520
Speaker 4: I love a pecan, although I like them candied.

3230
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:22,479
Speaker 3: I feel like a regular pecan feels like it's missing something.

3231
02:27:22,799 --> 02:27:24,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, do you like the little candied

3232
02:27:24,399 --> 02:27:26,520
squares of like pineapple and some trail mixes.

3233
02:27:26,719 --> 02:27:30,799
Speaker 3: I love the candied square of pineapple. I'm glad you

3234
02:27:30,879 --> 02:27:35,479
brought this up. We invented this very important a replacement

3235
02:27:35,559 --> 02:27:37,799
of the raisin but also cube form.

3236
02:27:38,120 --> 02:27:40,280
Speaker 4: They could have made it anything. But that guy was like,

3237
02:27:40,479 --> 02:27:41,159
make it a cube.

3238
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:42,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I did it again.

3239
02:27:42,479 --> 02:27:43,959
Speaker 4: That girl was like, it's a cube.

3240
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been a woman. It could have been.

3241
02:27:49,079 --> 02:27:49,680
Speaker 3: It probably was.

3242
02:27:50,079 --> 02:27:55,200
Speaker 1: Look up, look up Phyllis p cube. She invented the

3243
02:27:55,239 --> 02:27:56,319
pineapple cube.

3244
02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:57,520
Speaker 3: The Turkish apricot.

3245
02:27:57,920 --> 02:28:01,879
Speaker 2: I'll take pineapple before raisin, for sure. You know what's

3246
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:04,280
good to dried out apples? You don't see that a lot.

3247
02:28:04,440 --> 02:28:06,799
Speaker 1: Oh yea yeah, but that's a good because those retain

3248
02:28:06,840 --> 02:28:07,799
a lot of the apple flavor.

3249
02:28:08,159 --> 02:28:11,440
Speaker 3: I think you're leaning out of trail mix. Dried apple

3250
02:28:11,680 --> 02:28:14,959
is not a trail mixed situation. You're dodging the question

3251
02:28:16,479 --> 02:28:19,319
trail mix component Dan, And he's like, I don't like

3252
02:28:19,399 --> 02:28:21,319
anything because it's all nuts.

3253
02:28:21,479 --> 02:28:22,920
Speaker 1: I want to I want to make a distinction. Not

3254
02:28:23,239 --> 02:28:27,399
your favorite, the most important Oh, I mean the nuts.

3255
02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:29,760
I want to be semantic about this, the nuts.

3256
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:32,440
Speaker 4: If it didn't have nuts, it wouldn't be trail mixed exactly.

3257
02:28:32,600 --> 02:28:34,559
Speaker 2: So it's let's just say nuts in general.

3258
02:28:34,719 --> 02:28:36,920
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, because that's that's basically all Like

3259
02:28:37,040 --> 02:28:39,799
what which nuts and peanuts could Why because they add

3260
02:28:39,840 --> 02:28:42,760
the filler or because they're the filler they're good, but

3261
02:28:42,879 --> 02:28:45,879
also they fill. I'm not saying I like them, but

3262
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:48,280
they are by definition they're added because they're cheaper and

3263
02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:54,799
they're easier to they fill. I think hash peanuts infinitely.

3264
02:28:54,440 --> 02:28:57,239
Speaker 4: More so important. And if trail mix doesn't have cashews,

3265
02:28:57,280 --> 02:28:59,879
I'm like, this is for a bitch, like it has.

3266
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:00,799
Speaker 3: To the cashier.

3267
02:29:01,799 --> 02:29:04,840
Speaker 2: So okay, So, Mike, you said the peanuts out of

3268
02:29:04,879 --> 02:29:07,319
the shell. Is this just a mean thing? Like going

3269
02:29:07,319 --> 02:29:09,799
to baseball games in the nineties and stuff and you

3270
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:12,079
get the big thing of peanuts in the shells. I

3271
02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:16,639
would just put the whole shells in my mouth, you

3272
02:29:16,959 --> 02:29:20,799
and you and swallow them. No, So I think I

3273
02:29:20,920 --> 02:29:23,319
knew as a kid that like it would get really

3274
02:29:23,440 --> 02:29:26,840
dry and like splintery, that's stringy. Yeah, and so but

3275
02:29:27,000 --> 02:29:29,360
like I did, like they were so so salty. They

3276
02:29:29,399 --> 02:29:31,399
were super fucking salty. So I just like suck on

3277
02:29:31,479 --> 02:29:33,559
them and then chew them. And then you would also

3278
02:29:33,799 --> 02:29:35,920
chew like so like in your mouth you would kind

3279
02:29:35,920 --> 02:29:37,559
of purse out the peanut parts so you could swallow.

3280
02:29:37,719 --> 02:29:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a sunflower se just spit out all the

3281
02:29:40,399 --> 02:29:45,399
fucking like. Uh, I mean, I don't I don't necessarily

3282
02:29:46,639 --> 02:29:51,239
agree with that. I get why you did it, opinion.

3283
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:53,319
Speaker 4: I was angry.

3284
02:29:53,639 --> 02:29:55,639
Speaker 1: I was eating the entire sunflower seed until I was

3285
02:29:55,719 --> 02:29:58,920
like eight. Yeah, I didn't know you're supposed to not

3286
02:29:59,120 --> 02:30:03,440
do that. Yeah, the asshole was bleeding every time I pooped.

3287
02:30:04,639 --> 02:30:06,479
Speaker 2: That's the entire reason I'm still doing.

3288
02:30:06,479 --> 02:30:08,399
Speaker 4: I don't remember eating any corn.

3289
02:30:08,639 --> 02:30:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of a sunflower seed. Yeah, dismissing tooth was

3290
02:30:12,280 --> 02:30:13,879
just literally biting surely in.

3291
02:30:13,959 --> 02:30:16,559
Speaker 2: A week or two, getting the implant finally put in

3292
02:30:16,719 --> 02:30:19,600
after twenty plus years whatever. Because I was eating a

3293
02:30:19,639 --> 02:30:22,280
bag of sunflower seeds on the couch washing fucking South

3294
02:30:22,360 --> 02:30:24,840
Park in two thousand and three or something, and I

3295
02:30:24,920 --> 02:30:28,799
just bit into it and my tooth shattered and it

3296
02:30:28,959 --> 02:30:32,600
was bleeding like crazy, and it was a lot of pain.

3297
02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:35,120
And I did not have health insurance. And I found

3298
02:30:35,159 --> 02:30:38,520
out you could go to a dental school and they

3299
02:30:38,600 --> 02:30:41,639
would do the business for cheaper. And so some fucking

3300
02:30:41,719 --> 02:30:43,680
kid that was younger than me when I was like,

3301
02:30:43,879 --> 02:30:48,239
you know twenty, uh fucked up. He really fucked up too.

3302
02:30:48,360 --> 02:30:49,639
Like he hit me in the head with the like

3303
02:30:49,799 --> 02:30:52,920
X ray machine accidentally, so like I'm in deep, deep pain,

3304
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,120
bleeding out of my mouth, and he's like, oh, he

3305
02:30:55,200 --> 02:30:57,479
seems like the Simpsons, just like the.

3306
02:30:57,559 --> 02:31:00,079
Speaker 3: Simpsons child to imagine.

3307
02:30:59,680 --> 02:31:03,239
Speaker 4: That kid, we're all out of anesthesia.

3308
02:31:03,239 --> 02:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Bonks me in the fucking head with the X ray

3309
02:31:05,399 --> 02:31:07,040
machine and they're like, well that now I'm hurting in

3310
02:31:07,079 --> 02:31:09,719
a couple different ways, and I'm just I'm in hell

3311
02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:12,559
right now. And then they say like, well we can, uh,

3312
02:31:12,760 --> 02:31:15,719
we can we actually save the tooth. And I was like, yeah,

3313
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:17,239
how much does that cost? And they were like, oh,

3314
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:20,200
it'd be you know, four hundred dollars versus one hundred

3315
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:23,280
and fifty or whatever like something like that. It wasn't

3316
02:31:23,360 --> 02:31:25,520
like thousands or whatever. It's like four hundred or whatever

3317
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:27,639
or one hundred and fifty. And I did not have

3318
02:31:27,920 --> 02:31:30,079
hundreds of dollars, and so I said, oh, just pull it.

3319
02:31:30,120 --> 02:31:31,879
And they're like you're probably gonna regret this later in life.

3320
02:31:31,879 --> 02:31:33,200
And I was like how much later? And they're like, oh,

3321
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:36,719
when you're like forty, and they're like, that's never gotta happen.

3322
02:31:36,879 --> 02:31:39,159
That's fine, And so I told him to pull the

3323
02:31:39,280 --> 02:31:42,959
tooth and uh, they fucking tried to crack it out

3324
02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:46,120
with pliers and also, fun note, this is during the

3325
02:31:46,200 --> 02:31:48,840
time in college when I was afraid of the effects

3326
02:31:48,879 --> 02:31:51,120
of drugs because I had my first panic attacks under

3327
02:31:51,280 --> 02:31:53,479
uh when I tried mushrooms, and so I did not

3328
02:31:53,559 --> 02:31:56,280
want to take any nitrous or drugs for it or anything.

3329
02:31:56,639 --> 02:31:59,159
So felt every bit of this pain as they put

3330
02:31:59,159 --> 02:32:02,120
the the plyers in and tried to get my tooth

3331
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:05,959
out and it broke off, and so they broke off

3332
02:32:06,200 --> 02:32:08,600
the like kind of crown part of the tooth, the molar,

3333
02:32:09,239 --> 02:32:11,920
and all of the root was still in there, so

3334
02:32:12,040 --> 02:32:15,200
they had to fucking dig into my gums while I

3335
02:32:15,360 --> 02:32:18,319
was not drugged and fucking like at one point he

3336
02:32:18,440 --> 02:32:21,120
put his fucking foot against the chair to get leverage

3337
02:32:21,120 --> 02:32:23,840
because he had to like yank this fucking bone out

3338
02:32:23,879 --> 02:32:27,520
of my head and just bleeding profusely, all to save

3339
02:32:27,639 --> 02:32:30,399
a couple hundred bucks. And sure enough, now I'm spending

3340
02:32:30,479 --> 02:32:32,559
you know, like five figures trying to fix all this

3341
02:32:32,639 --> 02:32:34,200
shit that I could have just spent a couple hundred

3342
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:36,879
bucks when I was twenty and had.

3343
02:32:36,760 --> 02:32:39,000
Speaker 4: It fixed backs So Little Timmy was right.

3344
02:32:39,559 --> 02:32:41,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's my son flower seed story.

3345
02:32:43,399 --> 02:32:45,680
Speaker 4: So is it your favorite part of the trail mix?

3346
02:32:46,200 --> 02:32:46,680
Speaker 2: Pretty good?

3347
02:32:46,799 --> 02:32:53,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do really like sunflowers, like hey, but yeah,

3348
02:32:53,920 --> 02:33:01,399
the barbecue ones. You kidding me? Barbecue ran this thing

3349
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:05,680
and in a couple of weeks, I'm gonna get I'm

3350
02:33:06,399 --> 02:33:10,840
the same on a sunflower, go nuts on the dust,

3351
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:17,399
you break three other teeth. Uh yeah, No, I seriously

3352
02:33:17,399 --> 02:33:18,920
didn't know you're supposed to spit out the seeds, so

3353
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:20,000
I was too old.

3354
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:22,159
Speaker 2: They're fine, you can swallow.

3355
02:33:23,079 --> 02:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

3356
02:33:23,559 --> 02:33:25,639
Speaker 2: Jeff corrupted something to his asshole by eating too many

3357
02:33:25,719 --> 02:33:26,840
some flower seeds shells.

3358
02:33:27,159 --> 02:33:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't digest them all the way, and they get.

3359
02:33:29,399 --> 02:33:31,520
Speaker 2: So many that like fucked up his asshole and he

3360
02:33:31,600 --> 02:33:35,040
had to have somebody blue sky to Jeff Grabb and

3361
02:33:35,079 --> 02:33:37,159
asking about his asshole with some flower seeds.

3362
02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:43,559
Speaker 1: Okay, no, I can imagine. Yeah, I don't know. I

3363
02:33:43,639 --> 02:33:48,840
don't know all the things I would say. Yeah, I

3364
02:33:48,879 --> 02:33:49,799
didn't ask for that either.

3365
02:33:50,319 --> 02:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

3366
02:33:52,280 --> 02:33:55,840
Speaker 1: The most important element of a trail mix, you know

3367
02:33:55,959 --> 02:33:58,280
what I'm gonna be fucking I'm gonna I'm gonna say

3368
02:33:58,319 --> 02:34:00,760
that the eminem you need some sugar when you're on

3369
02:34:00,879 --> 02:34:02,920
a hike. They add a lot of like a good

3370
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:05,000
flavor profile to it. They give it a bit of

3371
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:07,600
a candy. It's like those are the pieces that you're

3372
02:34:07,639 --> 02:34:09,959
excited to see. It keeps you eating all the peanuts

3373
02:34:10,040 --> 02:34:12,520
and the walnuts and the cashews and the raisins, the

3374
02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:15,120
healthy stuff, because then you get to that next eminem

3375
02:34:15,200 --> 02:34:16,799
You're like, oh this is great and on a hike.

3376
02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:18,440
That's what you need anyway, you need to keep your

3377
02:34:18,479 --> 02:34:19,200
blood sugar up.

3378
02:34:19,799 --> 02:34:23,520
Speaker 2: I will never buy a pack of Eminem's, but I'm

3379
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:26,280
upset about being confronted with M and ms.

3380
02:34:26,520 --> 02:34:29,079
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do like the Christmas like sometimes I remember that,

3381
02:34:29,159 --> 02:34:30,639
Like my Grandpa always had the green and red ones

3382
02:34:30,639 --> 02:34:31,120
for Christmas.

3383
02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:34,319
Speaker 2: So I eat a lot of those those. Yeah yeah, no, no, no,

3384
02:34:34,440 --> 02:34:36,840
just the regular, but there were colored red ones that

3385
02:34:36,920 --> 02:34:39,360
were they had those two ones.

3386
02:34:39,520 --> 02:34:41,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, those were really good, the Prezza ones, the

3387
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:46,479
caramel pieces. Fuck them up? All right? Well, thank you

3388
02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:52,000
Wes first not long time, first time, long time, long time,

3389
02:34:52,440 --> 02:34:55,879
long time, long time, Western Baltimore. That's our show, fire

3390
02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:58,200
Scape Cast at gmail dot com. Get the inbox filled

3391
02:34:58,280 --> 02:35:00,719
up with good questions. If they're not good, good, I'll

3392
02:35:00,760 --> 02:35:05,360
be pissed. I'll come to your house. Send good questions.

3393
02:35:07,440 --> 02:35:10,239
We do have a restock. Notice the stainless steel water bottle,

3394
02:35:10,280 --> 02:35:12,840
the white one is back in stock at fourth Wall.

3395
02:35:13,280 --> 02:35:15,079
So get that stocked up for our Game of the

3396
02:35:15,200 --> 02:35:20,639
Year live stream. Fill it with some gatorade and vodka.

3397
02:35:20,719 --> 02:35:22,159
Get ready for the show. It's going to be a

3398
02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:27,559
fun one as usual. We have our Patreon if you

3399
02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:30,319
want to go be a subscriber, if you want to

3400
02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:32,079
treat it like a tip Jarks, we appreciate what we do.

3401
02:35:32,239 --> 02:35:33,840
Or you want to get ad free episodes, or you

3402
02:35:33,879 --> 02:35:36,920
want to get video versions. We do video versions of

3403
02:35:37,040 --> 02:35:40,799
every episode. We also do occasional bonus episodes, but right

3404
02:35:40,840 --> 02:35:44,200
now we have a bonus series going on with Vinnie Caravella.

3405
02:35:44,280 --> 02:35:48,000
Over at Nexlander, I'm playing We're playing Total War Warhammer

3406
02:35:48,120 --> 02:35:51,840
three co op campaigns. We're doing one for fire Escape

3407
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:53,879
that's every other week, the off week from the show,

3408
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:56,239
and then we're doing also a show where we're playing

3409
02:35:56,280 --> 02:35:59,959
evil factions for next Lander, and that's every other week

3410
02:36:00,319 --> 02:36:02,680
over there. You do need to be a patron at

3411
02:36:02,760 --> 02:36:04,440
both if you want to watch both, But if you

3412
02:36:04,520 --> 02:36:07,399
just want to do a piecemeal, go subscribe to them

3413
02:36:07,639 --> 02:36:09,479
or US. I like us quite a bit. I like

3414
02:36:09,559 --> 02:36:11,879
them a lot. They're worth subscribing to. If you're not

3415
02:36:11,920 --> 02:36:14,719
a patron already, Dan, what do you have going on

3416
02:36:15,399 --> 02:36:16,360
in the meantime.

3417
02:36:16,600 --> 02:36:19,000
Speaker 2: Giant Bomb, I'm just doing a whole lot of stuff.

3418
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:21,959
We got a new website launching very very soon. Thank

3419
02:36:22,000 --> 02:36:25,520
you Chuck for all the work going into that. But yeah,

3420
02:36:25,879 --> 02:36:28,479
really going nuts over there. So check out Giant Bomb.

3421
02:36:28,479 --> 02:36:30,399
We got the Twitch channel and all that stuff. But

3422
02:36:31,600 --> 02:36:33,440
this time of year especially, it's kind of harder to

3423
02:36:33,479 --> 02:36:36,879
find time there, So buyer escaping Giant Bomb priorities.

3424
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:39,719
Speaker 1: Mary about you, Just.

3425
02:36:40,040 --> 02:36:44,920
Speaker 3: Usually streaming on Mondays when I can and Instagram lots

3426
02:36:44,959 --> 02:36:48,440
of good dog picks on there. Come check out my

3427
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:52,079
happy dog in the fall in Portland. Lots of leaves, guys.

3428
02:36:52,159 --> 02:36:54,079
It's stunning over here, is.

3429
02:36:54,559 --> 02:36:57,120
Speaker 2: The recent pictures, like I saw one like today. If

3430
02:36:57,159 --> 02:36:59,920
you walk and seeming around like Portland looks delightful.

3431
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:03,239
Speaker 3: It's so I'm so pretty in the fall here it

3432
02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:06,639
really is like a it's just a magazine and I

3433
02:37:07,239 --> 02:37:07,520
love it.

3434
02:37:07,760 --> 02:37:11,040
Speaker 4: It's a short lived time though, like soon it will

3435
02:37:11,079 --> 02:37:13,120
be winter and there will be nothing.

3436
02:37:13,319 --> 02:37:16,639
Speaker 3: But right now I'm bliss, you know, like this is

3437
02:37:16,879 --> 02:37:19,360
this is like a dream, so so I probably have

3438
02:37:19,479 --> 02:37:21,680
like I want to say, there's maybe two weeks left

3439
02:37:21,719 --> 02:37:23,559
of this and then all the leaves will be gone.

3440
02:37:23,799 --> 02:37:27,959
Speaker 1: What are Portland winters like rainy. Oh gotcha?

3441
02:37:28,079 --> 02:37:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, like really rainy, kind of sad on Oka winters.

3442
02:37:32,239 --> 02:37:34,200
It's hard, it rains a lot.

3443
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:38,600
Speaker 1: Oh tropical, Oh.

3444
02:37:42,200 --> 02:37:44,360
Speaker 3: Rain sounds incredible, it really does.

3445
02:37:46,399 --> 02:37:48,479
Speaker 1: And then I feel like I had something else. Yes.

3446
02:37:48,639 --> 02:37:53,520
December sixth, Fire Escapes Game of the Year annual live

3447
02:37:53,639 --> 02:37:57,840
stream will be commencing henceforth from Minneapolis, as we do

3448
02:37:57,920 --> 02:38:01,360
every year. We'll be descending on Dan's house, Jake, Mary,

3449
02:38:01,479 --> 02:38:03,879
Dan and I. I think we decided it's gonna be

3450
02:38:03,879 --> 02:38:05,879
on twitch dot tv slash Dan Riiker. We're just gonna

3451
02:38:05,920 --> 02:38:06,399
keep that going.

3452
02:38:06,719 --> 02:38:08,760
Speaker 2: And then we have the YouTube for fire Escape.

3453
02:38:08,959 --> 02:38:11,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you're not, if you're not following the

3454
02:38:11,760 --> 02:38:16,040
fire Escape YouTube, then go do that because that's where

3455
02:38:16,079 --> 02:38:18,920
we'll be putting up the video version afterward, the VOD

3456
02:38:19,520 --> 02:38:22,600
and tentative plan. I don't know that we're one hundred percent,

3457
02:38:22,680 --> 02:38:25,319
but tentative is that we're going to if you can't

3458
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:28,280
make the show that day or you can't see the

3459
02:38:28,319 --> 02:38:30,280
whole thing, because they tend to be like six or

3460
02:38:30,319 --> 02:38:33,360
seven hours, we're going to break it into two episodes

3461
02:38:33,399 --> 02:38:36,399
and publish those in the subsequent weeks before we get

3462
02:38:36,440 --> 02:38:37,440
back and not the.

3463
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:39,440
Speaker 2: Usual two week cadence, you will there will be like

3464
02:38:39,479 --> 02:38:42,000
a bonus week where normally there wouldn't be anything, and

3465
02:38:42,120 --> 02:38:44,239
now you'll get part one of a Game of the year. Yeah,

3466
02:38:44,319 --> 02:38:46,159
and then the normal post day you'll get part two.

3467
02:38:46,239 --> 02:38:49,840
Speaker 1: And then back to regularly regularly scheduled programming once we

3468
02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:55,840
get toward twenty twenty six. Yeah, lot going on. Busy stuff,

3469
02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:57,079
good stuff, are busy.

3470
02:38:57,479 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeeah, we should uh do we have time? Like it's not.

3471
02:39:00,319 --> 02:39:03,760
The next one is the Game of the year, right, No? No,

3472
02:39:04,959 --> 02:39:08,760
this one more before we should each thinking, uh to

3473
02:39:08,879 --> 02:39:12,559
give each other one homework assignment of like, Okay, this

3474
02:39:12,719 --> 02:39:15,319
is a game I feel very strongly about, and I

3475
02:39:15,319 --> 02:39:17,559
will talk about for like game of the year type

3476
02:39:17,639 --> 02:39:20,760
caliber that we you know, say, at least get a

3477
02:39:20,799 --> 02:39:21,920
couple hours into it or something.

3478
02:39:22,360 --> 02:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta catch up.

3479
02:39:25,399 --> 02:39:27,440
Speaker 3: Me think I have to think about it like that.

3480
02:39:27,639 --> 02:39:28,479
Speaker 2: You've got a couple of weeks.

3481
02:39:29,120 --> 02:39:29,319
Speaker 5: I know.

3482
02:39:29,600 --> 02:39:32,280
Speaker 3: It's just important because whatever we say, it's like what

3483
02:39:32,319 --> 02:39:34,399
we're essentially saying is is like listen, this is going

3484
02:39:34,440 --> 02:39:36,319
to come up during gody. I need you to take this.

3485
02:39:36,399 --> 02:39:38,760
Speaker 1: Seriously and we have to pick one that like obviously

3486
02:39:38,840 --> 02:39:40,120
the other two have not really played.

3487
02:39:40,360 --> 02:39:42,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, But.

3488
02:39:42,600 --> 02:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Then there's some I'm not even gonna bother recommending to you,

3489
02:39:45,399 --> 02:39:47,120
Like a lot of people are telling me I would

3490
02:39:47,159 --> 02:39:49,239
like Kingdom Come Deliverance too. I don't think I'm gonna

3491
02:39:49,239 --> 02:39:51,239
recommend that to you too, But I know Jake has

3492
02:39:51,239 --> 02:39:53,319
played it, so I'm gonna see what I think.

3493
02:39:53,399 --> 02:39:53,879
Speaker 2: Sure, it's good.

3494
02:39:54,719 --> 02:39:56,479
Speaker 3: Jake's going to be my saving grace for a couple

3495
02:39:56,520 --> 02:39:58,360
of things because I know there are things that him

3496
02:39:58,399 --> 02:40:00,440
and I play that you guys probably didn't play that

3497
02:40:00,680 --> 02:40:03,399
He's gonna come out of the woodwork to protect me.

3498
02:40:04,200 --> 02:40:05,959
Speaker 2: God, it's a tough one because I would love for

3499
02:40:06,000 --> 02:40:08,000
you too to play dest Training two a lot, but like.

3500
02:40:08,159 --> 02:40:09,600
Speaker 1: I've played a lot of deasth Training two.

3501
02:40:10,000 --> 02:40:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't.

3502
02:40:10,840 --> 02:40:14,120
Speaker 1: We talked to We talked about it for like thirty minutes.

3503
02:40:14,440 --> 02:40:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I literally told me that you never played it.

3504
02:40:17,479 --> 02:40:18,760
I'd be like, oh, okay, you should check it out.

3505
02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:21,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what you We're just assuming and

3506
02:40:21,600 --> 02:40:25,319
I'm refuting it now I know, Okay, So don't assign

3507
02:40:25,399 --> 02:40:27,680
that I won't or I could have had you assign

3508
02:40:27,719 --> 02:40:30,280
it to waste yours. Now, it's not a combative assignment, but.

3509
02:40:30,360 --> 02:40:33,760
Speaker 3: Like it's a strategic ahead to you.

3510
02:40:33,840 --> 02:40:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you guys play like fucking City Defense

3511
02:40:38,920 --> 02:40:43,559
six your Universalists, and I'll wind up loving it. Yeah,

3512
02:40:43,559 --> 02:40:46,399
I'm sure. No I made that game up. If you

3513
02:40:46,440 --> 02:40:50,840
couldn't tell, Well, that's our episode. Thank you everybody for joining.

3514
02:40:50,920 --> 02:40:52,719
We'll be back in a couple of weeks with episode

3515
02:40:52,760 --> 02:40:55,319
one twenty one, which is the final episode before our

3516
02:40:55,360 --> 02:40:58,639
Game of the Year showdown Shenanigans. Should it be a showdown?

3517
02:40:58,719 --> 02:41:00,719
Does that automatically imply it be combative?

3518
02:41:00,959 --> 02:41:03,959
Speaker 2: I think it's a discussion. I feel like it's rarely

3519
02:41:04,120 --> 02:41:08,440
been combative. I think it's like certain silly arguments or whatever,

3520
02:41:08,639 --> 02:41:11,399
like you know, me pushing for Fortnite or destranding or whatever,

3521
02:41:11,639 --> 02:41:14,959
and you know, like, I think that's rarer than.

3522
02:41:15,079 --> 02:41:18,799
Speaker 1: YouTube for me a coalition to push Pickman right at

3523
02:41:18,799 --> 02:41:20,760
the very end after we gushed the ball.

3524
02:41:20,959 --> 02:41:21,840
Speaker 2: It's been pretty cool.

3525
02:41:22,479 --> 02:41:24,959
Speaker 1: It would have been cool because Dan didn't do pick

3526
02:41:25,040 --> 02:41:26,799
me a giant bomb, but this could have been his

3527
02:41:26,959 --> 02:41:31,600
Pickman pick I don't know what voice that was. Yeah,

3528
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:33,719
it'll be fun. We're gonna do our team dinner the

3529
02:41:33,799 --> 02:41:35,479
night before, so I'm sure We'll be in great shape

3530
02:41:35,520 --> 02:41:36,000
the next day.

3531
02:41:36,479 --> 02:41:37,360
Speaker 3: Oh we will.

3532
02:41:37,479 --> 02:41:38,760
Speaker 4: Our butts will be ready to go.

3533
02:41:39,280 --> 02:41:41,159
Speaker 1: My butt's gonna be torn asunder.

3534
02:41:42,159 --> 02:41:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna eat so many seeds.

3535
02:41:44,559 --> 02:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna scread that only trail mix.

3536
02:41:49,959 --> 02:41:52,200
Speaker 2: We go to the sunflower seed restaurant here in Minnesota,

3537
02:41:52,239 --> 02:41:56,639
and yeah, I just doesn't get shifts his brains out.

3538
02:41:56,879 --> 02:41:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm just leaking out of my butt the.

3539
02:41:59,799 --> 02:42:03,120
Speaker 3: Entire All the seats have paper towels on them.

3540
02:42:03,719 --> 02:42:07,280
Speaker 1: Perfect. Oh I'm bringing diapers this year, baby, don't you

3541
02:42:07,360 --> 02:42:10,680
worry about that. All right, we'll be back in a

3542
02:42:10,760 --> 02:42:15,319
couple of weeks. Until then, see you, h