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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO hanging in? We don't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To report every thirty one. Do you wish to report

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<v Speaker 2>a UFO over hey, we want to one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a report

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<v Speaker 1>of any kind of it?

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Time areas thirty one me neither there.

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<v Speaker 2>See if it was anybody above us to pass us,

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<v Speaker 2>Like thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over.

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<v Speaker 3>God.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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<v Speaker 4>least to three thousand feet above us.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I passed out over the top of US ninety

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<v Speaker 2>one one.

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<v Speaker 1>You just called both to me before.

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<v Speaker 2>They're after staying the airplanes.

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<v Speaker 1>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>By tohere to God more calm on an unidentified object,

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<v Speaker 2>every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 3>All Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share

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<v Speaker 3>their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had

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<v Speaker 3>an encounter, I would like to be on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello,

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<v Speaker 3>and welcome to the show everyone wherever in the world

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<v Speaker 3>you are listening from. How are you all? I'm the

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<v Speaker 3>cantor and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our first

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<v Speaker 3>guest to is Gary in Nevada, and Gary is a

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<v Speaker 3>thirty year contact team and he will be sharing some

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<v Speaker 3>of his communications with us. Then we speak to Jay

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<v Speaker 3>in the Philippines about his experiences that took place in

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<v Speaker 3>New York State starting in the late nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary is up first.

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<v Speaker 3>on with the show. Good morning, Gary, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for joining us today, and you're calling from

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<v Speaker 3>the State of Nevada.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I am, and thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>You are more welcome Gary. You have some encounters to share.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like to start at the beginning, Please, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Start in the beginning, Nick, the beginning, I mean, go

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<v Speaker 1>back to where I was, maybe five years old. First encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little kid. I'm in my bed and I

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<v Speaker 1>hear these beings in my room. I hear them in

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<v Speaker 1>my closet. I call for my mom. She comes in

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<v Speaker 1>and tells me, you're just dreaming and go back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling her, but I wasn't dreaming. I was awake. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>typical mom, you know, yeah, you're dreaming, and shine it

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<v Speaker 1>off with that. I think that happened twice. It went

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<v Speaker 1>away and I never dealt with that again. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the sixth grade, my family went from the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and we live in Canada for about a year.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad had a job to say did in Canada

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<v Speaker 1>and going to school there, and we lived at a

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<v Speaker 1>house out in the middle of nowhere in a lake.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to feel a presence outside of my

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<v Speaker 1>room that they never came in my room. Kind of scary,

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<v Speaker 1>not kind of It was scary as a kid, sixth

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<v Speaker 1>sixth grade. So that was the last thing. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>jumps forward while I was about twenty five and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with a friend of mine. We're coming home. We got

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<v Speaker 1>off work. We work together. We go to my apartment,

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<v Speaker 1>hang out for a little bit, and I'm driving him

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<v Speaker 1>home and we're driving and I'm talking and he quits answering,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look over and he's looking out the window

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<v Speaker 1>of my car with his jaw dropped the passenger side,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just see this big, huge, the size of

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<v Speaker 1>a shopping mall in the sky, very low, spinning very slowly,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm always breaking UFO and he's all, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, no, it's not. So I turned down. I

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<v Speaker 1>started driving towards it. And I'm driving towards it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that there's we're being watched, we're being tracked,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it may be. So I look up and right

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<v Speaker 1>above my car on both sides, there's two of them falling,

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<v Speaker 1>and I tell them, look, they see that we're following

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<v Speaker 1>this thing. They know we see it, and they know

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<v Speaker 1>we're driving towards it. And he starts to panic out.

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<v Speaker 1>He ends up kind of fetal positioned in my front

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<v Speaker 1>seat and very emotional, asking me to take them home,

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<v Speaker 1>Take them home, take them home. I finally turn around

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<v Speaker 1>because he's starting to get a little fully emotional. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I turn around and take them home, I look

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<v Speaker 1>back and they're all gone. And that was my first

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<v Speaker 1>experience seeing one of these crafts. Now they explained to

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<v Speaker 1>me that this whole experience was the basically almost a

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<v Speaker 1>turn on a light switch inside of me. It got

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<v Speaker 1>me to where I started studying UFOs, reading about spirituality.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just obsessed with it, and I've been obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>with them since then. It changed my life. That one

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<v Speaker 1>night changed my life. Some time went by, nixt I

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<v Speaker 1>end up living in the back of the trucks homeless

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<v Speaker 1>for almost ten years in the nineties. So the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I'm in this truck and I start going

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<v Speaker 1>through what I described as a near death experience anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>It was feeling like your brain's flipping upside down in

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<v Speaker 1>your head and you're dying, is what it felt like.

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<v Speaker 1>So at some point it got so bad, I get

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my truck, I lay down. A voice

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<v Speaker 1>starts talking to me. It starts explaining to me about

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<v Speaker 1>a band of energy that's around our planet. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>tap into it creatively, like we're talking about musicians being

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<v Speaker 1>new artists, whatever it may be. You tap into this

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<v Speaker 1>band of creativity and you come out of it with

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<v Speaker 1>something that's colored by your personality. So they showed me

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<v Speaker 1>a song by Rage against the Machine Bulls on Parade,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they showed me a song that I had written.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very similar. I'm all, wow that I see

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<v Speaker 1>how this is slightly different from them, slightly different from me.

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<v Speaker 1>So they got the song going and flash and for

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<v Speaker 1>something original. So they start giving me a song. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked the violins and cellos and violence and cellos come in.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for a vocal line. I start singing face

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<v Speaker 1>first in the back of my truck. So they answered

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<v Speaker 1>some questions and I, you know, talk with them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get up for some reason, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were gone, and I'm trying to get them back and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get them back, and I'm going, wow, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that was a fluke, But that kind of explains

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<v Speaker 1>my whole near death experience thing that I had been

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<v Speaker 1>going to the multiple for this time goes by all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I start to get it again. The

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<v Speaker 1>boy starts talking to me. They start explaining things to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, okay, I got to get up and

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<v Speaker 1>answer the call of nature, and you're going to be gone.

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<v Speaker 1>When as soon as I move, like last time, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be gone. You're not going to come back. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>communicate with you. They said, okay, we've been with you

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life, and we will be with you the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of your life. So go, we will be back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm doing my thing, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>they tell me to get back in the car. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a cop coming, please. So I get back and my

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<v Speaker 1>truck and I'm looking out through my little crap and

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<v Speaker 1>police car drives by. So I'm kind of going blow.

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<v Speaker 1>This is definitely unusual. So I go to go to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and they told me we'll be with you the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of your life. Okay. So I wake up the next

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<v Speaker 1>morning for all, good morning Gary. How are you bo

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<v Speaker 1>Those of them? They start going. They did this for

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<v Speaker 1>probably a day and a half, two days, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been quite some time, okay, but they did this

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of days. So I finally said I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to have my mind back if I could okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, okay, going forward, we will just answer

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<v Speaker 1>questions now. At this point, when I first started doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>they spoke directly through my mouth, through me, like they

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<v Speaker 1>were in my body. I could listen to what they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>have my own thoughts separate from what they're saying. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're answering questions for people, and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>And I even had a friend go to do I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to insult you, but whatever this is, the

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<v Speaker 1>speaking through you is much more intelligent than you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I'm not insulted. I did it did going

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<v Speaker 1>through me. I could feel it, I could hear what

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying. So I do this for a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm answering questions for people. And one day I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading the book in the back of my truck and

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<v Speaker 1>it happened to be on extraterrestrials and how certain individuals

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<v Speaker 1>in our society were as humanoid aliens. And they come

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<v Speaker 1>out and said, look, we're an alien. We got this

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<v Speaker 1>artwork that would get inside people's head and all this. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm reading the book. I'm laying there and I

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<v Speaker 1>see what looks like a frame of the UFO pop

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<v Speaker 1>out from behind a cloud and pop back in and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm all, what kind of different does it again? And

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<v Speaker 1>the voice tells me, okay, we're the ones that have

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<v Speaker 1>been talking to you the past few months, and I'm all, oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I started seeing the UFOs on a daily basis, and

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<v Speaker 1>it probably this is odd, probably took me a few

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<v Speaker 1>days a week maybe, and I finally asked them, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what what do I call you? Do you have a name?

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<v Speaker 1>And they said, quintal A, you can call us quintal A. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>quintal A. What are you? And they said, we're what

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<v Speaker 1>that you would call the senior. You can call us

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<v Speaker 1>the senior please. And we're extraterrestrials that looked exactly like

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<v Speaker 1>you do, or you look like us, is really what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. That's so basically how I broke through and

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<v Speaker 1>made my communication with these beings. And it's been now

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<v Speaker 1>a little over thirty years that I have openly been

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<v Speaker 1>communicating with them. In hindsight, I realized that all through

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<v Speaker 1>my childhood they did and I thought it was me

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<v Speaker 1>with a very active imagination that caused me to be

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<v Speaker 1>very poorly in school and I was very distracted they

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<v Speaker 1>would give me comics and teachers wives and a comic

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<v Speaker 1>script that was just hilarious. And I didn't concentrate in

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<v Speaker 1>school and didn't do very well, and I got into

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<v Speaker 1>music high school. I thought I was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next Gene Simmons and play music, and pursued that

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<v Speaker 1>and dropped out of high school. Actually I've never graduated,

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<v Speaker 1>so that brings me thirty years later with a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot of information.

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<v Speaker 3>And it seems that at your lowest point, they made

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<v Speaker 3>a connection.

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<v Speaker 1>With you exactly to be honest with you, Nick, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that probably saved my life. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>I would have made through the years of homeless that

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<v Speaker 1>I did without them. There's one and I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>this until after I had gone through this experience. As

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<v Speaker 1>long hair guy, long hair, black guy. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>to the back of my mind. Nick, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't think about it. And he asked me,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm gonna do. And he says, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>to show you where you can go every Tuesday and

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday and get a hot dinner. So we show up

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<v Speaker 1>at this place and we've tried to get him to

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<v Speaker 1>just kept the void from that whole conversation. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>go to a church. We get out and he's, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate everything you did. You want to have dinner

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<v Speaker 1>four guys. So hey, thanks, appreciate it everything you did,

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<v Speaker 1>and good luck to you. I turn around. I talked

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<v Speaker 1>to my friend. We look back and they're all now.

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<v Speaker 1>In hindsight, my guide told me this was us. My guide,

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<v Speaker 1>Quintale is five of these humanoid et so the one

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<v Speaker 1>the other ones were waiting on him. They walked up

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<v Speaker 1>encounter with them that I know of. They come right

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<v Speaker 1>down to your level, right. You just go, wow, this

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you were able to completely relate. You know, he

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<v Speaker 3>had he had a guitar on him, he was he

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<v Speaker 3>was homeless, and then he showed you where you can

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<v Speaker 3>go and helped you exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And they said they they've done this throughout the history

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<v Speaker 1>of mankind. This is how they work with people. You

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<v Speaker 1>it would make a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of sense for them to do that. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the same kind of way, you know when

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<v Speaker 3>when you hear stories of angels, you know, where people

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<v Speaker 3>would have these strange encounters with people and that they're

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<v Speaker 3>helped out, you know, a bit like that TV show

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<v Speaker 3>remember Highway to Heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, exactly, kind of like that, you know, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was in human form and he always helped people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Yeah. As a matter of fact, we just as

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<v Speaker 1>a family watched the movie tonight. Michael. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever seen John Travoltam Michael where he plays

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<v Speaker 1>the Angel.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that one, Yeah, I remember, yeah, good movie,

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<v Speaker 3>good movie. Indeed, what did you say their name was?

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<v Speaker 1>My guide's name is Quintala like q u I n

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<v Speaker 1>h ta dash la y quinn to a quick way, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're human. There's the like f e e n yay.

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<v Speaker 3>And did they ever say where they were from?

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<v Speaker 1>They're from Earth. They exactly have told me where they're from.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been on this planet for billions. Here we're going

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<v Speaker 1>through complete physical human understanding, learning what it is to

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<v Speaker 1>be physically human. It's a reincarnation process. Takes a couple

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<v Speaker 1>thousand lives. We go through this, then you move on

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<v Speaker 1>through seventy eight other forms of mental and physical development.

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<v Speaker 1>Each one of these seven eight levels has a dimension,

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<v Speaker 1>like we have the physical plane and two lower astral planes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the dimension here of parallel dimensions. That's what dimensions are.

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<v Speaker 1>Each one of these levels of development require a dimension

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<v Speaker 1>to play out the lesson like we're doing on the

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<v Speaker 1>physical plane. Okay, signa. They're exactly like us. They're no

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<v Speaker 1>different than we are. They went through complete physical human

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<v Speaker 1>understanding here on Earth, just as we are. Now, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you've got a million of hammer modern day hammer

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<v Speaker 1>and four hundred million year old piece of coal, for example.

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<v Speaker 1>They there's been advanced humans on this planet way way

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<v Speaker 1>way before us, way way way before what we consider

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<v Speaker 1>the prehistoric era. Okay, that's exactly what they are. They've

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<v Speaker 1>gone through what we're going through, and then the other

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight there is a point where they could use

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<v Speaker 1>one of the total human mental capacity that.

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<v Speaker 3>Have always been here guide in us.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been here guiding ess and not only not

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<v Speaker 1>only are they here guiding ess, this planet for them

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<v Speaker 1>a biological genetic warehouse. This is where they get all

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<v Speaker 1>of the genetics that they use in other places. They say,

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<v Speaker 1>like Alpha Centauria. This is a common belief in the

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<v Speaker 1>Ufo Ufolo Ufo community. Is it Alpha Sepera is coming

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<v Speaker 1>here to visit us and look at end studies or

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<v Speaker 1>watches or whatever. They're developing genetics, but taking them from

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<v Speaker 1>here to alvas Patura. Okay, Now, the beings I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you I'm communicating with are humans. They look like us.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd never know none of the different unless they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know. Okay, Now there are the other beings

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<v Speaker 1>that look like your typical alien grades and whatnot. What

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<v Speaker 1>they are they call them the Gongoley Gongolay. You got

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy eight layers of development that you go through,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm telling you, the senior are at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of this. The gongolay are about halfway between. And what

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<v Speaker 1>they are is like worker bees or the sena and

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<v Speaker 1>they develop all the physical bodies and plants and animals

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<v Speaker 1>and biological structures like her. And they do this for

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. They work together, and you'll hear some abductees say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>got these big bugheaded looking aliens over me doing this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like US military off to the side walking.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the military that's the scene. They look like us.

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<v Speaker 1>They're running the whole show.

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<v Speaker 3>And even up until today, are they still interacting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. When they said Nick that they would be with

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<v Speaker 1>me the rest of my life, they've been with me

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life. I jokingly tell people that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the lives decap because they've saved my life Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I was a teenager. A couple of times that

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<v Speaker 1>I know of helping me answer questions. I just did

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<v Speaker 1>a post last night about a guy I'm speaking with

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<v Speaker 1>a message erney telling me his story about how he

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<v Speaker 1>met a guy. And this guy says, well, I'm from

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<v Speaker 1>another planet, and he tells the guy that I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>with that you're from another planet too. Now, a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, Nick, I probably would have pulled this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think maybe you're confusing things about being

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<v Speaker 1>from a different planet, because I didn't think it worked

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But in reading this guy's story, I'm reading

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<v Speaker 1>his story and my guides are showing me it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a big camoraniser of different dimensions and how we're learning

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<v Speaker 1>on different levels, and that's what this guy is from

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<v Speaker 1>one of these levels. And what he's telling me is

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. But it was white claim that he is

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<v Speaker 1>actually not of humanity. Okay, just like we're born into

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<v Speaker 1>a physical body, all of our previous lives are put

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<v Speaker 1>on a back burner. You don't you forget about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You will never forget about them once you cross back over.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you're physically alive, it's just kind of stored

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<v Speaker 1>away until you die and go back to these astral planes,

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<v Speaker 1>which the astral plane, the spiritual We're all of spiritual energy,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the signe I mentioned their spirits. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>through the reincarnation and they don't go through life, birth

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<v Speaker 1>and all the like we are because they've been through

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<v Speaker 1>that and moved aft that. We're all going through these

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<v Speaker 1>levels of understanding. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy would

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<v Speaker 1>see his friend told him he was from another planet,

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<v Speaker 1>and they showed me in a panmorandic picture. Added to

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<v Speaker 1>what I have learned from them so far, and they

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<v Speaker 1>just added in more pieces that fit into what I

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<v Speaker 1>call the bigger picture. They call the process of creation,

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<v Speaker 1>these seventy eight forms of mental physical understanding, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it fits in with this the yugas, the four cycles

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<v Speaker 1>of the Earth, and it repeats or all gods and training.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what I was getting at.

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<v Speaker 3>And are you able to call on them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? I will ask them questions and they generally will

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<v Speaker 1>answer you generally around me, Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>So you able to say, if you was to drive

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<v Speaker 3>into the desert, would you able to initiate a contact

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<v Speaker 3>physically with them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I've done that. Okay, I've had them appeer for

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<v Speaker 1>other people. I've had them a peer for people that

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I've had them a or for a gentleman

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK. He started, you know, and I tell him,

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<v Speaker 1>when I do this, you got to be very patient,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to be very open minded. You've got to

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<v Speaker 1>look at the subtle because for example, I've done this

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<v Speaker 1>and an airplane will fly by. I generally have people

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<v Speaker 1>go out watch the sky for an hour. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you say, do you have air traffic? You have what on?

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<v Speaker 1>Airplanes fly by? And this one particular guy was going, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>an airplane flew by, but there was something odd about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It just didn't look right or fly right. And I

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<v Speaker 1>told them, okay, that was them. Now if you acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that what you just saw is not an actual airplane

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<v Speaker 1>and is these extraterrestrials, it's going to progress. And it

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<v Speaker 1>progressed him to the point where I remember him writing me,

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<v Speaker 1>now this thing here writing to me and saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>got this little UFO flying around in my garden. So

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<v Speaker 1>it depends on the person. Some people nick are not

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<v Speaker 1>meant to see him. Some people cannot handle seeing him.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I would will have asked them up here

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<v Speaker 1>and they out. Me and some friends we've gone out

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<v Speaker 1>and had a blouse just watching different manifestations of these crowds.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I say on the show, keep watching this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So literally, that's all I did. If I yes, that's

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<v Speaker 3>all I do, day all night, in between recordings of day.

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<v Speaker 1>If they want you to know, like I said, be

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<v Speaker 1>born next, You're not going to know unless they want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, you know, And like you said about the

422
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<v Speaker 3>previous guy that you were messaging, I've had a few

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<v Speaker 3>guests on which an example would be there was a

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<v Speaker 3>guy in America and he lived in a very small town,

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<v Speaker 3>a town where everyone knew each other, and he was

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<v Speaker 3>telling me he was at the bar with a load

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<v Speaker 3>of his mates and two people came into the bar.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't It wasn't long ago this episode, but a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of people come into the bar and they were

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<v Speaker 3>wearing what looked like like seventies clothes, and they apparently

431
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<v Speaker 3>were a bit different. Nobody recognized him because it was

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<v Speaker 3>such a small town, and this guy was chatting him

433
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<v Speaker 3>for the bar, and he then invited him back to

434
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<v Speaker 3>another friend's backyard where they continued drinking's beer and stuff,

435
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<v Speaker 3>and they told him, they goes, you know, we're not

436
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<v Speaker 3>from around here, We're from another planet. Eventually, they left

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<v Speaker 3>and they folks out. Strange, Yeah, strange little meetings with people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I think it's probably more common than people realize.

439
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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people that don't want to admit that, hey,

440
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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to an alien because I'm going to be

441
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<v Speaker 1>looked at like like you're crazy or an idiot or

442
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<v Speaker 1>whatever label they want to put on you at that point. Yeah,

443
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you hear these people make them out to

444
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<v Speaker 1>be monsters and all that. They're out here too, and data,

445
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<v Speaker 1>so take us over all of that. I don't believe

446
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<v Speaker 1>that's true, Nick, And from what I learned from them,

447
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<v Speaker 1>it's not that you have good and bad. That's the

448
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<v Speaker 1>terrestrials you have. It gets intentions of the humans and

449
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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it has to deal with their life's choice.

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<v Speaker 1>So before you're born, you go through a meeting. You

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<v Speaker 1>choose what you're going to learn, what you're going to

452
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<v Speaker 1>be born to. If you have a karma debt you

453
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<v Speaker 1>have to pay off. This is all guided by karma

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<v Speaker 1>or reincarnation process. So you go through this pre birth meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>you make the choices, you're born, and you go through

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<v Speaker 1>this process.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been like going to a library, isn't it and

458
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<v Speaker 3>picking a book and you're like, I want to read

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<v Speaker 3>this book now. And I think that's the same thing reincarnation.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you have to take different books. You can't

461
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<v Speaker 3>always you know, you obviously can't take the easy book.

462
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<v Speaker 3>You have to take some of the books which are

463
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<v Speaker 3>hard reading, you know, hard to absorb. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's how life is. I think sometimes when people go

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<v Speaker 3>in through difficult times in their life, it can make

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<v Speaker 3>it easier by realizing that you've already chose this life

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<v Speaker 3>and this is your learning process.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick, that's a really good way of putting it. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with one hundred percent. You know, it's like me,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a rough life. I haven't had an

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<v Speaker 1>easy life. It's still at this point it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle yesterday, you know, but it's what I've chosen

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<v Speaker 1>to do and I've accepted that and it's what I'm learning.

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<v Speaker 3>So you just kind of go with it, and you

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't change your life.

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<v Speaker 1>There's parts that I would like to change, but is

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<v Speaker 1>it meant to be changed? Probably not. I mean, I

478
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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of business ideas that I want to do. Nick,

479
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<v Speaker 1>my daughter's mother calls me the idea machine. I got

480
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<v Speaker 1>sheets of ideas. Okay, My main idea I want to

481
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<v Speaker 1>do is called work for Life, which is tickting proke lives.

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<v Speaker 1>We would like to focus on the unwed young mothers

483
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<v Speaker 1>that the guide fail on, leave them with kids, pull

484
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<v Speaker 1>them into a tough love living program and you basically

485
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<v Speaker 1>got to reteach them because I don't know about in

486
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<v Speaker 1>the UK, but in the United States, some of these

487
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<v Speaker 1>chaps are they have no parents at home. The bot

488
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<v Speaker 1>parents got a worker. It's a single mom that's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to support these kids and sees at work and they're

490
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<v Speaker 1>raised by a TV or who knows who, and they

491
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<v Speaker 1>need to be re taught. This is you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>you get up and you have your breakfast, you brush

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<v Speaker 1>your teeth, you take a shower, you make your bed,

494
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<v Speaker 1>and this is how you pay your bills and get

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<v Speaker 1>your job. And you train them and job still get

496
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<v Speaker 1>put in the job, teach how to build credit, buy

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<v Speaker 1>a house. I call it work for Life. This is

498
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<v Speaker 1>my main business idea that I want to do. But myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had money. I live to be very very

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<v Speaker 1>be very very honest. I live below the level of

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<v Speaker 1>poverty in the United States. I don't have money and

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make money. Everybody knows you got to

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<v Speaker 1>have money. And one of these days I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>one of my ideas are going to jump off. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>get an investor, and I'll be able to do all

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<v Speaker 1>of this that I want to do. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be off of this information that I have

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<v Speaker 1>from these vps to sell it or make money, or

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<v Speaker 1>even to help people with their help or their advice

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<v Speaker 1>or their information that I couldn't charge for.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course not. And yeah, you're absolutely the right. The

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<v Speaker 3>worst teacher in the world is the television.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just kind of that's one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things I've heard that the common amongst people come in

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<v Speaker 1>contact with these beings. It's the first thing they do

518
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<v Speaker 1>is they're kind of in selling you to go out

519
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<v Speaker 1>and help people's lives better, and they do. They that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing they did for me, And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I went through the whole homeless thing. I grew up

522
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<v Speaker 1>in one house, middle class, new school clothes every year,

523
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<v Speaker 1>Christmas present. You know what I'm saying, You're basic, you know,

524
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<v Speaker 1>a nice childhood, and I needed to learn how other

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<v Speaker 1>people live. So I had to go through that experience

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<v Speaker 1>of living in the back of this truck for ten

527
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<v Speaker 1>years to get it, you know, and in that times

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<v Speaker 1>when they contacted me and helped me out of that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird how they work. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The world would be a very different place if everyone

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<v Speaker 3>did that, if everyone went out and helped people, it

532
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<v Speaker 3>would be a very different place, it would.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you with this reincarnation process my belief

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to say this, I'm not out to

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<v Speaker 1>try to change anybody's belief system, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>or convince anybody or whatever. I simply want to share

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<v Speaker 1>what they shared with me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Gary, you have a Facebook page, is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>What is the name of it?

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<v Speaker 1>That theoretical gift?

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<v Speaker 3>The theoretical Gift? What kind of information do you have

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<v Speaker 3>on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Gary?

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<v Speaker 1>What I've been doing is once again, thirty years I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this, Nick and I've started I've on online

547
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<v Speaker 1>and try to get these theories out and I get

548
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<v Speaker 1>ready to feel it up with down, I get to discouraged,

549
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<v Speaker 1>give up, and I've done this a few times over

550
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<v Speaker 1>about thirty years. So this round right now, I've been

551
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<v Speaker 1>asked probably about two months and I'm getting a better response.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, happy, happy to say that I deal with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of trolls, with a lot of people. You're

554
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<v Speaker 1>an idiot, you're more on, you're on drugs, you're on

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And this time I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of support, really kind, nice people. So my

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<v Speaker 1>Theoretical Gifts Facebook page basically I'm crossed posting what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been posting on the internet, which is information I've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>from my guide Quintaala and some of my experiences. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about sharing the information online. That's what the Theoretical Book

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<v Speaker 1>facebook page is about. So I'm talking with people and

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<v Speaker 1>rather retyping it all I can go here, go look

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<v Speaker 1>at this read please if you would, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>got questions, I'm more than happy to answer in public

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<v Speaker 1>forum or in messenger. I get a lot a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people come to be a messenger that don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to come out and tell their story publicly because of

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<v Speaker 1>the way people treat them. I've been through it. I

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<v Speaker 1>know how they feel, but I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>stop me out. Sure what people think about me, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I've been through. This is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not making this up and I don't feel I

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<v Speaker 1>need to prove myself to anybody. If you want to listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't, more power to you. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to argue with you exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The Facebook page the theoretical gift. Okay, so what I

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<v Speaker 3>do is I'll put a put a link down below

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<v Speaker 3>so people go check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, You're more than welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm welcome anybody that wants to come up me with questions,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as long as they're professional. And even there's

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<v Speaker 1>people that come in and they don't agree with what

586
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.119
<v Speaker 1>I say. I could have a professional conversation. Hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to make up for your mind what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe, not have me tell you what to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I could have conversations. But when they

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<v Speaker 1>get mean and naci not cool. But if anybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to contact me on messager, you know, I get people

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I get a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>these life start taking pictures and video and I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see this coming, and I'll contact them a messager

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<v Speaker 1>and once I get out of them that they're hearing

596
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<v Speaker 1>a voice, like I hear a voice now you will

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<v Speaker 1>tell them, hey, I hear a voice that the information

598
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<v Speaker 1>you're reading it's from a voice that I hear, and

599
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<v Speaker 1>once they will admit that they're hearing this voice, I

600
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<v Speaker 1>could certainly explain to them what's going on, and usually

601
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<v Speaker 1>introduce them to who's trying to talk to them, because

602
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<v Speaker 1>that's all it is, you know what I'm saying. You

603
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 1>got individuals trying to talk to either or your spirit guide.

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<v Speaker 1>You give them a name or I walk them through

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<v Speaker 1>a process sometimes and they got to figure the name

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<v Speaker 1>out themselves and make them work for it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you take somebody that could be considered a schizophrenic. I

608
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<v Speaker 1>can be considered schizophrenic because I hear a disembodied voice,

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<v Speaker 1>and you take them from that to where they're basically

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<v Speaker 1>a spiritual medium. They could do readings, they could use

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<v Speaker 1>it as a friend. It's up to them what they

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<v Speaker 1>want to do with their gifts. But I get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these coming to me in private because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to what they don't want to admit in public.

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<v Speaker 1>And I will never tell share their stories or their names.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's very personal.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly so cool. That's wonderful, Gary, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just appreciate you giving me the opportunity, I really really do.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the first one that I've just given me an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to talk and it's been thirty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is what the show's about.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary, Good. Thank you. I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving a voice to people. Gary, I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>You're more than welcome. Gary, keep in contact, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>take care of and our talk soon.

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<v Speaker 3>to the Strange. Hello Jim, and welcome to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you for having me, Thank you for.

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<v Speaker 3>Joining us today. And you're call in from the Philippines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, I'm originally from United States, but I migrated

649
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<v Speaker 2>to the Philippines and with them here.

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<v Speaker 4>Good choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Jim, your experiences go back to the late nineteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you like to stand at the very beginning, please, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Back when I was oh, probably three and a half

655
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>four years old, I caught pneumonia. And I know a

656
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:16.839
<v Speaker 2>lot of people say it they caught your death experience,

657
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>but I was said, I knew I was sad. I

658
00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 2>saw myself anyways, when I when I left my body,

659
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I was out of it. I seen a doorway and

660
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I knew it was whatever I was. It was the

661
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>way home. To go through that doorway. Well, in the

662
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>back of the doorway, it was like the whole back

663
00:32:41.799 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>it looked like it was a mile away from the doorway.

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<v Speaker 2>The way didn't come all the way to the door.

665
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.960
<v Speaker 2>And I knew if somebody was supposed to meet me

666
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:56.440
<v Speaker 2>there to take me back to where I belonged, they

667
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 2>wasn't there. So I started to look around, and I'm

668
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>hovering in the air over my bed at the foot

669
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.839
<v Speaker 2>on my bed, and I noticed, I can the walls

670
00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:12.279
<v Speaker 2>are trans turn I can see through the walls, my

671
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:18.720
<v Speaker 2>bedroom walls, and I did a one eighty to my best.

672
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 2>I had to kilt down, but I saw my own body.

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00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I call it the vessel. I saw the vessel there,

674
00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>and I could see it was covered with blind to

675
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 2>fallow way up to my nest. My mother probably did

676
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:36.759
<v Speaker 2>a had me covered up like that because of the pneumonia.

677
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 2>And my head was turned to the right, like over

678
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>my shoulder, and I could actually see my part of

679
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>my tongue hanging out of my mouth. I did a

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00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>one eighty back around to my right and there was

681
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>the doorway in that light. Well, like I said, I

682
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>knew I was supposed to go through that to go home. Well,

683
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I was all ready to go through it, and to

684
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the right in the doorway, I thought a little black

685
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>spot way in the back, and so it stopped me

686
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 2>from going through. Watching it anyway, As I watched it,

687
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:19.119
<v Speaker 2>it kept getting a little bigger and bigger and bigger,

688
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>got closer. I started to see a form. I could

689
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 2>see a corsel, laid arm and the head, and it

690
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.440
<v Speaker 2>got up to the doorway. I'm going to say probably

691
00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:35.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty to forty feet before it got to the doorway.

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00:34:36.119 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>It stopped.

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00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm wondering, why am I being shown this? And

694
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I received the message. It said. Now when I received

695
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 2>this message what I was, I heard it through every

696
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>part of what I was. I didn't hear it like well,

697
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I had no heir. The only thing I had was

698
00:34:56.719 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 2>a form an eye. I heard it through every part

699
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of what I was. And it said to me, I

700
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>am in this form, so you will not be afraid.

701
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.559
<v Speaker 2>I thought to myself, well, I'm not afraid. Then it

702
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 2>told me it wasn't my time to die. I had

703
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.400
<v Speaker 2>to go back, and I was saying, I don't want

704
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.559
<v Speaker 2>to go back, and it was like something was forcing

705
00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 2>me to go back into the vessel, and I can

706
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.480
<v Speaker 2>remember going through the skin, the bones, and the flesh.

707
00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 2>I could see that all happened when I was going

708
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>through it. Now what it showed me. At the time,

709
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I really wasn't sure what it was. Then several years

710
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>later when I got the sixteenth where I lived down

711
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.760
<v Speaker 2>a dairy farm, and it was in the summertime. It

712
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was just a couple of weeks after my birthday. My

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00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>birthday is two and eighteenth, and it was probably the

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00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>very end of June early July. One night, I woke

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00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 2>up and I was freezing. I mean I was so cold.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I was in a big meat freezer.

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00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.920
<v Speaker 2>I was so cold before. While, before I go any further,

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00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.360
<v Speaker 2>I have to explain how I swept. Okay, Now, when

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00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I slept, I either slept on my left or right side.

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00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 2>When I would get in bed, I would lit first

721
00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>lay on my back and I'd lift my legs way

722
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>up there, pull of my blankets out underneath from the

723
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:24.920
<v Speaker 2>massive from the box spring. My mother just sorts saying,

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00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you saw me, Junior, so Juner, how do you get

725
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 2>your bed such a mess?

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00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Well?

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00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, and I had turned my light off, but like

728
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.719
<v Speaker 2>I said, I was so cold. I sat up and

729
00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:41.559
<v Speaker 2>well before I set up, I noticed my bed was

730
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.719
<v Speaker 2>made so perfect. The blankets were all pulled it underneath

731
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 2>the bed, at the foot of the bed, up along

732
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 2>the side. The blankets were up over my up under

733
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.400
<v Speaker 2>my under arm, over my chest down the other side.

734
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.719
<v Speaker 2>We pulled the back probably five or six inches, and

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00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I think probably my bed get made like this. But

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00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I sat up, and I know my t shirt was

737
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 2>so it was so wept. I grabbed it. I put

738
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:11.760
<v Speaker 2>my hands up to my chest and I grabbed it

739
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and I clean water like flick would come between my

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00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 2>fingers and between my finger and some wet my lot loose.

741
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>But when I did the water it was like it

742
00:37:22.639 --> 00:37:25.960
<v Speaker 2>was a lighter or right back into my shirt. I

743
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:30.320
<v Speaker 2>thought to myself, what the holes going on? So I

744
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>got out of bed, I took the shirt off, threw

745
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it on the floor next to my bed. I got

746
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 2>another dry shirt, put it done because I had well,

747
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 2>my bedtime every night was nine o'clock because during the

748
00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.800
<v Speaker 2>July is our busiest time of the year. When we

749
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>were on the fairy come to the hand, I got

750
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 2>back in bed, turned my light off and I just

751
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if went back to bed, and this

752
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 2>was probably like three or four block in the morning,

753
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.840
<v Speaker 2>because I had to get up at slip so we

754
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:07.880
<v Speaker 2>could be milking. At six thirty. Well, six o'clock came around.

755
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I got up and I remember being cold stuff, and

756
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I went to pick my t shirt up to throw

757
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.679
<v Speaker 2>into my dirty clothes then. But when I picked it up,

758
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:24.039
<v Speaker 2>I was expecting it to still still be wet, because

759
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.239
<v Speaker 2>there was no way it was gonna what as that was,

760
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 2>it would be dry. But it was bone dry. I thought,

761
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. I must have I must have been dreaming,

762
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>just not norm you know, I dreampt it. So a

763
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>couple of days later, we was going to bail Harry

764
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and I was sitting in the back of where it

765
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:46.400
<v Speaker 2>picked up stick and all of a sudden, out of

766
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the blue, like a video playing in my head, I

767
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.360
<v Speaker 2>was walking up this ramp. It was a spiral like

768
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>a spiral staircase, but it was a ramp, and the

769
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:01.440
<v Speaker 2>ramp probably was at least twenty feet wide, and the

770
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:05.440
<v Speaker 2>wall was probably I don't know, maybe twenty five thirty

771
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 2>feet away from the ramp, and it's a bright Chinese

772
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.519
<v Speaker 2>sugar cower that I've never seen before. And I can

773
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 2>feel if something's controlling me. I'm being made to walk

774
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>up this ramp. Well, I can move my head just

775
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.519
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. In my eyes, I'm looking at the wall,

776
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and I said, I kind of looked to see where

777
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I was if there's I couldn't see, no corners, no place.

778
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 2>And as I looked, great, and I kind of like

779
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.519
<v Speaker 2>looked down the wall kind of like curved in then

780
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 2>looking less and right. It was like looking at a

781
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:45.519
<v Speaker 2>drum round where the to see. Well, as I was

782
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.280
<v Speaker 2>walking being made to walk up, I felt whatever was

783
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.119
<v Speaker 2>controlling me. I could feel a strip loosen on me.

784
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>And I looked over to my right and I saw

785
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.519
<v Speaker 2>all these different size pipes in the center of the

786
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 2>fil lamp. And as I looked, I kind of looked down.

787
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to see where I was at. And

788
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I had no idea where I was at. And I

789
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.760
<v Speaker 2>looked and there was on a ramp. There was a scene.

790
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.280
<v Speaker 2>It was probably three and a half four foot tall.

791
00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 2>I had almond shape eyes, and I know that I

792
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 2>had to be kind of.

793
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Like flat on its face.

794
00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Then it was the end of the video. It's what's

795
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 2>the host going on? I had no idea I didn't

796
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>say that anybody because I thought everybody in my family

797
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:35.079
<v Speaker 2>but finally thought I was all crazy. So about a

798
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 2>week later, same thing, what tee shirt that made so perfect? Well,

799
00:40:41.519 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I got to be having a dreams that I'm not remembering.

800
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<v Speaker 2>So at this time nothing happened. I remember nothing, I

801
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't see nothing. Well, I thought maybe somebody was someone

802
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.480
<v Speaker 2>in my bedroom trying a jolt on me. So I

803
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:57.800
<v Speaker 2>got the tea. I had two bedroom doors I had,

804
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I got the keys to them and locked my Edwin door. Figure,

805
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:02.800
<v Speaker 2>I keep them out, nobody's going.

806
00:41:02.719 --> 00:41:03.039
<v Speaker 4>To do it.

807
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Well the end a week later, that same thing happened.

808
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:14.000
<v Speaker 2>What tea shirt freezing that made perfect? But different was

809
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.440
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple of things different. Once I had

810
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:22.599
<v Speaker 2>this awful, haunting feeling I had killed and I felt

811
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>like I had been in the military. Now I'm really puzzled.

812
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm really thinking, what the hell is going on? So

813
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>I taught myself and to believe when I was just

814
00:41:32.840 --> 00:41:36.159
<v Speaker 2>having dreams, didn't remember what was going on. So I

815
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of like put everything in the back of my

816
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:42.239
<v Speaker 2>mind about it. But I mean I didn't totally forget

817
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 2>about it. So this is in nineteen sixty nine, So

818
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:53.119
<v Speaker 2>here your lits later, I was stating this squirrel. And

819
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.519
<v Speaker 2>it was probably in October, maybe September.

820
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>We had gone to.

821
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:03.880
<v Speaker 2>On a Saturday night. We had gone to a late

822
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.239
<v Speaker 2>showing of a movie and it probably got over about

823
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.599
<v Speaker 2>one o'clot and because we both lived in the country,

824
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>were on the way home or on the way taking

825
00:42:13.760 --> 00:42:17.599
<v Speaker 2>her home. This one road it was called Mosshill Road.

826
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:23.159
<v Speaker 2>Whichever end you went up up the it was uphill.

827
00:42:23.199 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 2>It was another like a small mountain and on the

828
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 2>top of kind of flattened out. While we got up there,

829
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.199
<v Speaker 2>and I was driving real slow to the road. It

830
00:42:37.360 --> 00:42:39.159
<v Speaker 2>was a dirt road part of it, and it was

831
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 2>not very wide. You had to go slow. If you

832
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 2>went off the the way I was going. If you

833
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 2>went off the right side, you was you. I was

834
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>tumble down the hill. Well, anyways, as I'm driving, i'm

835
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:54.760
<v Speaker 2>my shoulder. It felt like somebody caught me on my shoulder.

836
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.719
<v Speaker 2>And at first I thought, well, was at the movies.

837
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe somebody got her in my car was in the.

838
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Back of it.

839
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Like I looked around to my left and side to

840
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 2>see it, and I don't say nothing got out of

841
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:13.519
<v Speaker 2>my window. So I was, you know, I've seen this

842
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:14.440
<v Speaker 2>right right.

843
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>It's sad.

844
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:20.480
<v Speaker 2>It was way out to the west, and we had

845
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:24.800
<v Speaker 2>we have a small airport where I live, and I

846
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 2>thought a plane was coming in to land. But now

847
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:31.199
<v Speaker 2>this is probably like two o'clock in the morning now,

848
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 2>but our airport was so small it was eleven o'clock.

849
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>It shut down. I thought, well, it can't see an

850
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.119
<v Speaker 2>airplane coming in. So I stopped the car and we

851
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>got out, and they way we watched it, and I

852
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.119
<v Speaker 2>were watching it. It was almost directly over top of us,

853
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 2>but to the west of us, and I'm looking at it.

854
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, my god, I've seen that color before. I

855
00:43:59.639 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 2>was in side of it. And it got wait over

856
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>top of us, but in front of us a little bit,

857
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and it made a turn to the north. Now this

858
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 2>turn wasn't a turn, it was a slide. It never

859
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>stopped to slow down. It just slid sideways. And while

860
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:22.840
<v Speaker 2>it was the size of it had to be, oh,

861
00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:26.280
<v Speaker 2>probably the size of a soccer ball, but it was

862
00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:28.840
<v Speaker 2>way up in the sky and it went down to

863
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:31.840
<v Speaker 2>where it was almost the size probably the ton of ball.

864
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Then without stopping, it reversed and it comes back forward

865
00:44:38.039 --> 00:44:42.199
<v Speaker 2>this and her and I. We received the message. PLO

866
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 2>prophetically said we're not interested you, and I said to myself, okay,

867
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:51.239
<v Speaker 2>I said, must be, We're not what they were looking for.

868
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>So comes back and where did ninety degrees slide? Sideways?

869
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>It got there as three over top of us, and

870
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.719
<v Speaker 2>it went south, probably the same about the size of

871
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.559
<v Speaker 2>the Tunnis balls and that come back and it was

872
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:12.400
<v Speaker 2>coming back. It said we're not interested in your planet.

873
00:45:12.920 --> 00:45:15.599
<v Speaker 2>So when they said that, I figured, well, they wasn't

874
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 2>talking about us, they were talking about all humans. So

875
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>it's still headed back work where it's at the ninety

876
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 2>degree slide. Anyways, just before it got that, we received

877
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.400
<v Speaker 2>the third message. It said, that's what we can do.

878
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Our eyes are glued on it because we know something

879
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 2>was going to happen. Anyways, did the nineties that stopped

880
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.880
<v Speaker 2>this worst second? And that took off so fast, I

881
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.239
<v Speaker 2>mean it had to be close to the light speed.

882
00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And if you would have blinked your eyes, you would

883
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 2>have never seen you would have lost it, you would

884
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:55.719
<v Speaker 2>have never seen it again. We could watch it going

885
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:58.119
<v Speaker 2>to the wash and we could tell it was going

886
00:45:58.280 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 2>like you know, out way out in space. So after that,

887
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought maybe that wasn't a coincidence. They seen that.

888
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I was made to see that because they didn't want

889
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>me to forget what happened to me in sixty nine.

890
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.039
<v Speaker 2>What happened was I was abducted three times. Now, time

891
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.679
<v Speaker 2>went on and seventy five I got married, and I

892
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of put everything to lay at the UFOs and

893
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:32.599
<v Speaker 2>aliens behind me. Wow. Then in the late eighties, Ronald

894
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Reagan was president and I think it was a second term,

895
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.320
<v Speaker 2>and he was at the United Nations given a speech

896
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and he was talking about some bad aliens. And I

897
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 2>stood up for my tear because my wife and I

898
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 2>was watching it. I said, I know something about the

899
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.159
<v Speaker 2>bad aliens. He says, what are you talking about? I said,

900
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I know something about bad aliens.

901
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:00.519
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm really really early puzzled. Why would I

902
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 2>know about some bad aliens. So now I'm trying to

903
00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 2>find anything. I kind of about ali hands. I watch

904
00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 2>watching news programs to see if they're talking about but

905
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:15.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting no place. So then in two thousand,

906
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>my wife and I separated, and then two thousand and

907
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>three we finally got our divorce and stuff like that,

908
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and I kept the house that we had and I

909
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 2>have had earth blodus and my knee and my shoulder,

910
00:47:29.880 --> 00:47:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and in the winter times it was really bad because

911
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 2>in the winter time it got pulled there in New

912
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.079
<v Speaker 2>York State where I was at well. Anyways, I sold

913
00:47:37.119 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 2>the house to some people I knew and they let

914
00:47:38.840 --> 00:47:40.679
<v Speaker 2>me stay there for a couple of months. I get

915
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 2>everything moved because I was going to move with a

916
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:47.960
<v Speaker 2>brother down south in Florida. And last month I was there.

917
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Every time I went to bed, didn't matter if I

918
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.159
<v Speaker 2>was going to bed for the night or just taking

919
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:57.800
<v Speaker 2>a nap. Lay there and there would be four of them,

920
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 2>and it was like they were a shadow and oblog

921
00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and shadow. I couldn't move. I was like I was

922
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.159
<v Speaker 2>totally paralyzed from from the neck down. And as I

923
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:12.559
<v Speaker 2>see these shadows, there's one almost on each side of

924
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:17.320
<v Speaker 2>my my shoulders, my left and right, and at my

925
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>legs like on knees, but I can't tell what they are.

926
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:26.800
<v Speaker 2>They're like an oblong black shadow standing and has come forward.

927
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:31.039
<v Speaker 2>There would be another one right behind it. And each

928
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>time as it close and closer they got, there was

929
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.599
<v Speaker 2>more of them. And as it got close to me

930
00:48:35.679 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 2>and stopped like all the other shaddles just go into one,

931
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:44.760
<v Speaker 2>but I could never make out what they were. Well,

932
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:48.320
<v Speaker 2>this went on for a whole month. I thought I

933
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 2>was going not crazy, So I was gonna call a psychiatrist.

934
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Well the day before I was going to fall and

935
00:48:57.480 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 2>come up with this idea. I just I'm not going

936
00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to lay. I'm going to just lay there. I'm not

937
00:49:01.719 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 2>going to try to flight to get away. I'm just

938
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 2>gonna lay there to see what happened. And sure enough

939
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 2>they the images of them. They were four small grays

940
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that one was holding my right shoulder down, my left

941
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 2>shoulder hand on it, my shoulder and my elbow. I

942
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:23.079
<v Speaker 2>was on the table, my arms are out, my palms

943
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:26.360
<v Speaker 2>are down, and two come up on my leg. One

944
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:30.760
<v Speaker 2>just they had one hand just above my knee pushing

945
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 2>my leg down, the other hand holding my leg. Then

946
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.480
<v Speaker 2>above me. There was like seeing It's like seeing an

947
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.079
<v Speaker 2>operating on big light, but it was way high up.

948
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't look straight up at it because it was

949
00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>so bright. And I'm turning my head because thinking did

950
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I get wounded? But why am I thinking I got wounded?

951
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:52.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm looking over to see where I got wounded?

952
00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 2>And I looked to my left and out of the dark,

953
00:49:56.719 --> 00:50:01.400
<v Speaker 2>because the room was flat dark, great big tall alien

954
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>probably I'm going to say eight nine feet tall, come

955
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:09.239
<v Speaker 2>out of the dark and come up to my mid waist.

956
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I grabbed an instrument up by the light with its

957
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.400
<v Speaker 2>left hand, the foot like the fall of the hand,

958
00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>just below my sternum. And I had only three fingers

959
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 2>when they were long, and they come all the way

960
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:26.079
<v Speaker 2>up up to my throat. That big instrument was pulling

961
00:50:26.159 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 2>it down towards me. It was pulling down towards my face.

962
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I could say. It looked like a big swinge, a

963
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>big needle on it bout the size of the pencil,

964
00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:37.239
<v Speaker 2>well maybe even bigger than that. I thought to myself,

965
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, that's gonna hurt. It's gonna stick and

966
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 2>right in the eye with it. And it gets closed,

967
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 2>right kid, it's not coming towards my eye, but just

968
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:49.880
<v Speaker 2>above it. And it touched me just above my right eye,

969
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 2>towards to my nose and just above it, almost where

970
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.840
<v Speaker 2>people stayed with the third eye is up there, and

971
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.360
<v Speaker 2>it was whites out, just nothing. I was awaken bed

972
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:05.519
<v Speaker 2>and all this information I'm floating into my head. It

973
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was like an avalanche. I couldn't grasp it all, but

974
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:12.199
<v Speaker 2>I saw it enough of it, but I knew what happened.

975
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 2>First night they abducted me. They took me to the Moon,

976
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.159
<v Speaker 2>and I was there and I was standing on the

977
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 2>edge of a crater, and just above me, I could

978
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 2>see part of that ship and it was definitely Sastra.

979
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Feet like I said, maybe three feet away from the crater.

980
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 2>And I take my feet and I move them back

981
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and forth, and I start slinking down. I probably go

982
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.039
<v Speaker 2>down like three or four inches under the surface and

983
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:39.559
<v Speaker 2>look in the crater and I see three or four

984
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.239
<v Speaker 2>buildings tall but not with a tall and off of

985
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.559
<v Speaker 2>two of them there was want some hucks coming off

986
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of them, and there was some white floodlights on the

987
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:55.440
<v Speaker 2>tall buildings flashing down on them. See because it was dark,

988
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was really black, and they were camouflaged

989
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:02.199
<v Speaker 2>and looked just like the moon. That I remember. The

990
00:52:02.280 --> 00:52:05.119
<v Speaker 2>next thing I remember is I was at the end

991
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>of one of the quantum hots. We went through one

992
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.760
<v Speaker 2>group of doors that shot. There was another shot in

993
00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:13.559
<v Speaker 2>front of the who had to wait there that there

994
00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 2>was like a mist that came down over.

995
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

996
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I was in a space suit. I wasn't in all there.

997
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean I was in a space suit. And then

998
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 2>after a few minutes, we walked through the second door,

999
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.480
<v Speaker 2>went through a right into a little thing and a

1000
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:30.719
<v Speaker 2>human person helped me take the space suit off just

1001
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:35.320
<v Speaker 2>where I took a physical examination, and I remember my

1002
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:37.960
<v Speaker 2>my t shirt, but I un'ward. I had to pull

1003
00:52:38.039 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 2>it out, I quick board. I had to carry it

1004
00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:42.719
<v Speaker 2>to different stations where they did different things testing me.

1005
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:45.760
<v Speaker 2>That's where they took me first time. The second time

1006
00:52:46.119 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 2>it was a touch for fear. They wanted to see

1007
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 2>what you're reft and it was when you see you

1008
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.360
<v Speaker 2>wasn't on Earth, out in space.

1009
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 1>This is where I not.

1010
00:52:57.559 --> 00:53:01.719
<v Speaker 2>When I was died, I was shold that the air

1011
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I said, so you will not be afraid that this

1012
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 2>is where I'm met it. That's why I was sold,

1013
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 2>so I would not be afraid. It was doing the

1014
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:11.760
<v Speaker 2>toughs that had you un your mind control. And I

1015
00:53:11.840 --> 00:53:14.480
<v Speaker 2>got to tell you, that is the strangest thing I

1016
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 2>ever had done. I was standing there and it was

1017
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.960
<v Speaker 2>standing right behind me, and it was so close. It's

1018
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:28.199
<v Speaker 2>like I could feel feel it against my body, but

1019
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:31.760
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't touching me. And I was looking out this. Uh.

1020
00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I was looking around and there was a window in

1021
00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>front of me, but it wasn't a window, and I'm

1022
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 2>looking out there in a really black out there dark

1023
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:45.719
<v Speaker 2>and I looked down to my down a little bit

1024
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 2>where I can see a planet, probably the size of

1025
00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 2>a soccer ball, size of a basketball, beautiful glue color.

1026
00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think it was Pacific that I was looking at.

1027
00:53:58.280 --> 00:53:59.079
<v Speaker 1>I know it was there.

1028
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:03.039
<v Speaker 2>As I'm looking there in mind control, I can feel

1029
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:06.800
<v Speaker 2>it's mind and tangling with my mind. It's like a

1030
00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:11.559
<v Speaker 2>big ball of strength, both our minds together, and I

1031
00:54:11.639 --> 00:54:14.960
<v Speaker 2>can actually see with its eyes. I'm looking at myself

1032
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 2>the top of my head. And like I said, the

1033
00:54:18.519 --> 00:54:21.519
<v Speaker 2>one race was like eight nine ten foot tall. They're

1034
00:54:21.559 --> 00:54:25.239
<v Speaker 2>really tall. We only have three hingers and I have

1035
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:30.840
<v Speaker 2>a I had an artist raw fishery rays as I'm

1036
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 2>doing it there, and they told me I was forbidden

1037
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:36.559
<v Speaker 2>to turn around and looked at him, and I thought,

1038
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe that's why, because I couldn't move nothing. The only

1039
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.800
<v Speaker 2>thing I could move is my eyes. And I think

1040
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that's wise because I was forbidden to turn around look

1041
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:48.000
<v Speaker 2>at him, and I said, why can't I see him?

1042
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And answered me, it said it was five other alien

1043
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 2>races plus one military human. They want to see what

1044
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.800
<v Speaker 2>the reaction is that me and not on the planet

1045
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and out in state, and that told me from other

1046
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:10.400
<v Speaker 2>friends that they wanted to make contact with us, full contacts.

1047
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>They want they wanted people to know about them. But

1048
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.960
<v Speaker 2>they have rules. One of their rules are before they

1049
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 2>make contact with any plant, full contact. Now this is

1050
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.119
<v Speaker 2>my word, I use government. The governments of all the

1051
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.239
<v Speaker 2>world have to agree on it, and it said ruling powers.

1052
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:33.800
<v Speaker 2>They all have to agree on it. But if this

1053
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 2>one does know, they will not make full contacts. Well,

1054
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been saying this for years and years telling people

1055
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 2>are saying about Oh you know, like last year I

1056
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.440
<v Speaker 2>did the interview with a guy and I told him,

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00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>I says, they was back in I think it was

1058
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.559
<v Speaker 2>soon there. The American government was supposed to come out

1059
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.559
<v Speaker 2>with about UFO. People said, oh, this strip they will

1060
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.400
<v Speaker 2>not It's not going to happen anytime soon. All the

1061
00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:01.840
<v Speaker 2>government from the world of got with three on them.

1062
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<v Speaker 2>And that's what it told me.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jim, good job. And at the time you didn't

1064
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.000
<v Speaker 3>really you didn't have any of these memories. These memories

1065
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<v Speaker 3>came came later on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, because see they came back and they gave

1067
00:56:15.159 --> 00:56:18.280
<v Speaker 2>them to me. Why I don't know, because if they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come back and do that, well, I said for

1069
00:56:20.440 --> 00:56:24.119
<v Speaker 2>a whole month and that there, I would still be

1070
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:28.440
<v Speaker 2>wondering what happened to me. Then after that is when

1071
00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I could. I found out I could call an UFO,

1072
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I can go outside and I can just think about

1073
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it and ask them to show me that they're will

1074
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 2>and they show up. I show while I had my

1075
00:56:40.760 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 2>second wife, she left me because she got so afraid.

1076
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 3>So they just turn up when you call them, they

1077
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 3>turn up.

1078
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just Yeah. I can go out there. I

1079
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.239
<v Speaker 2>can go out there and I don't even have to

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00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.519
<v Speaker 2>look up in the sky. And I've showed a few

1081
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.159
<v Speaker 2>people and I can just point up in the sky

1082
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.079
<v Speaker 2>and say look right up there, and they get close

1083
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 2>to my arm and watch my here within a couple of.

1084
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 3>And when was your last experience, ed Jim?

1085
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:08.239
<v Speaker 2>A month ago that when I was telling me about

1086
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:11.039
<v Speaker 2>whatever that was, you know, I asked for him to

1087
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 2>show me that they were real, and two days later boom. Anyways,

1088
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:16.199
<v Speaker 2>that's my story.

1089
00:57:16.280 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Note what I have that's wonderful, Jim.

1090
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:21.320
<v Speaker 2>There's definitely more going on, and what the gol i'ment

1091
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.400
<v Speaker 2>tells us there was something visiting her from other planners.

1092
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:27.559
<v Speaker 3>You're absolutely right, yeah, no.

1093
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Matter who they were. I mean there has been aliens

1094
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.199
<v Speaker 2>probably well probably before man was here.

1095
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jim, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing

1096
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.000
<v Speaker 3>that for our listeners. Yeah, okay, you enjoy the rest

1097
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.280
<v Speaker 3>of your morning, Okay, and I'll be in touch.

1098
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll say that, all right, take.

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<v Speaker 3>Care YouTube, Jim. That's great. Take care of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Bye bye, Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>That is over today. Keep updated and connected with the

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<v Speaker 4>show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if you have

1103
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:57.840
<v Speaker 4>an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,

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00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 4>you can email me at uf chronicles at gmail dot com,

1105
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 4>or you can reach out to me via the contact

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00:58:04.840 --> 00:58:08.840
<v Speaker 4>page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

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<v Speaker 4>big thank you to Gary and Jay for sharing tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>and thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>All for listening.

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<v Speaker 4>I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe

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<v Speaker 4>and keep watching the skies. Goodbye to
