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Speaker 3: All Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share
Speaker 3: their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
Speaker 3: an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
Speaker 3: You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello,
Speaker 3: and welcome to the show everyone wherever in the world
Speaker 3: you are listening from. How are you all? I'm the
Speaker 3: cantor and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Our first
Speaker 3: guest to is Gary in Nevada, and Gary is a
Speaker 3: thirty year contact team and he will be sharing some
Speaker 3: of his communications with us. Then we speak to Jay
Speaker 3: in the Philippines about his experiences that took place in
Speaker 3: New York State starting in the late nineteen fifties.
Speaker 4: Gary is up first.
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Speaker 3: on with the show. Good morning, Gary, and welcome to
Speaker 3: the podcast.
Speaker 1: Good morning.
Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us today, and you're calling from
Speaker 3: the State of Nevada.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am, and thank you for having me.
Speaker 3: You are more welcome Gary. You have some encounters to share.
Speaker 3: Would you like to start at the beginning, Please, sir.
Speaker 1: Start in the beginning, Nick, the beginning, I mean, go
Speaker 1: back to where I was, maybe five years old. First encounter.
Speaker 1: I'm a little kid. I'm in my bed and I
Speaker 1: hear these beings in my room. I hear them in
Speaker 1: my closet. I call for my mom. She comes in
Speaker 1: and tells me, you're just dreaming and go back to sleep.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling her, but I wasn't dreaming. I was awake. Okay,
Speaker 1: typical mom, you know, yeah, you're dreaming, and shine it
Speaker 1: off with that. I think that happened twice. It went
Speaker 1: away and I never dealt with that again. When I
Speaker 1: was in the sixth grade, my family went from the
Speaker 1: United States and we live in Canada for about a year.
Speaker 1: My dad had a job to say did in Canada
Speaker 1: and going to school there, and we lived at a
Speaker 1: house out in the middle of nowhere in a lake.
Speaker 1: And I used to feel a presence outside of my
Speaker 1: room that they never came in my room. Kind of scary,
Speaker 1: not kind of It was scary as a kid, sixth
Speaker 1: sixth grade. So that was the last thing. Now it
Speaker 1: jumps forward while I was about twenty five and I'm
Speaker 1: with a friend of mine. We're coming home. We got
Speaker 1: off work. We work together. We go to my apartment,
Speaker 1: hang out for a little bit, and I'm driving him
Speaker 1: home and we're driving and I'm talking and he quits answering,
Speaker 1: and I look over and he's looking out the window
Speaker 1: of my car with his jaw dropped the passenger side,
Speaker 1: and I just see this big, huge, the size of
Speaker 1: a shopping mall in the sky, very low, spinning very slowly,
Speaker 1: and I'm always breaking UFO and he's all, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not, no, it's not. So I turned down. I
Speaker 1: started driving towards it. And I'm driving towards it, and
Speaker 1: I feel that there's we're being watched, we're being tracked,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. So I look up and right
Speaker 1: above my car on both sides, there's two of them falling,
Speaker 1: and I tell them, look, they see that we're following
Speaker 1: this thing. They know we see it, and they know
Speaker 1: we're driving towards it. And he starts to panic out.
Speaker 1: He ends up kind of fetal positioned in my front
Speaker 1: seat and very emotional, asking me to take them home,
Speaker 1: Take them home, take them home. I finally turn around
Speaker 1: because he's starting to get a little fully emotional. And
Speaker 1: when I turn around and take them home, I look
Speaker 1: back and they're all gone. And that was my first
Speaker 1: experience seeing one of these crafts. Now they explained to
Speaker 1: me that this whole experience was the basically almost a
Speaker 1: turn on a light switch inside of me. It got
Speaker 1: me to where I started studying UFOs, reading about spirituality.
Speaker 1: I was just obsessed with it, and I've been obsessed
Speaker 1: with them since then. It changed my life. That one
Speaker 1: night changed my life. Some time went by, nixt I
Speaker 1: end up living in the back of the trucks homeless
Speaker 1: for almost ten years in the nineties. So the beginning
Speaker 1: of that, I'm in this truck and I start going
Speaker 1: through what I described as a near death experience anxiety.
Speaker 1: It was feeling like your brain's flipping upside down in
Speaker 1: your head and you're dying, is what it felt like.
Speaker 1: So at some point it got so bad, I get
Speaker 1: the back of my truck, I lay down. A voice
Speaker 1: starts talking to me. It starts explaining to me about
Speaker 1: a band of energy that's around our planet. Okay, we
Speaker 1: tap into it creatively, like we're talking about musicians being
Speaker 1: new artists, whatever it may be. You tap into this
Speaker 1: band of creativity and you come out of it with
Speaker 1: something that's colored by your personality. So they showed me
Speaker 1: a song by Rage against the Machine Bulls on Parade,
Speaker 1: and then they showed me a song that I had written.
Speaker 1: It was very similar. I'm all, wow that I see
Speaker 1: how this is slightly different from them, slightly different from me.
Speaker 1: So they got the song going and flash and for
Speaker 1: something original. So they start giving me a song. I
Speaker 1: asked the violins and cellos and violence and cellos come in.
Speaker 1: I asked for a vocal line. I start singing face
Speaker 1: first in the back of my truck. So they answered
Speaker 1: some questions and I, you know, talk with them, and
Speaker 1: I had to get up for some reason, and they
Speaker 1: were gone, and I'm trying to get them back and
Speaker 1: I can't get them back, and I'm going, wow, I
Speaker 1: guess that was a fluke, But that kind of explains
Speaker 1: my whole near death experience thing that I had been
Speaker 1: going to the multiple for this time goes by all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I start to get it again. The
Speaker 1: boy starts talking to me. They start explaining things to me,
Speaker 1: and I go, okay, I got to get up and
Speaker 1: answer the call of nature, and you're going to be gone.
Speaker 1: When as soon as I move, like last time, you'll
Speaker 1: be gone. You're not going to come back. I can't
Speaker 1: communicate with you. They said, okay, we've been with you
Speaker 1: your whole life, and we will be with you the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. So go, we will be back.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing my thing, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they tell me to get back in the car. There's
Speaker 1: a cop coming, please. So I get back and my
Speaker 1: truck and I'm looking out through my little crap and
Speaker 1: police car drives by. So I'm kind of going blow.
Speaker 1: This is definitely unusual. So I go to go to sleep,
Speaker 1: and they told me we'll be with you the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. Okay. So I wake up the next
Speaker 1: morning for all, good morning Gary. How are you bo
Speaker 1: Those of them? They start going. They did this for
Speaker 1: probably a day and a half, two days, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's been quite some time, okay, but they did this
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. So I finally said I
Speaker 1: would like to have my mind back if I could okay,
Speaker 1: and they said, okay, going forward, we will just answer
Speaker 1: questions now. At this point, when I first started doing this,
Speaker 1: they spoke directly through my mouth, through me, like they
Speaker 1: were in my body. I could listen to what they're saying,
Speaker 1: have my own thoughts separate from what they're saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: And they're answering questions for people, and this and that,
Speaker 1: And I even had a friend go to do I
Speaker 1: don't mean to insult you, but whatever this is, the
Speaker 1: speaking through you is much more intelligent than you are.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm not insulted. I did it did going
Speaker 1: through me. I could feel it, I could hear what
Speaker 1: they're saying. So I do this for a little bit
Speaker 1: and I'm answering questions for people. And one day I'm
Speaker 1: reading the book in the back of my truck and
Speaker 1: it happened to be on extraterrestrials and how certain individuals
Speaker 1: in our society were as humanoid aliens. And they come
Speaker 1: out and said, look, we're an alien. We got this
Speaker 1: artwork that would get inside people's head and all this. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm reading the book. I'm laying there and I
Speaker 1: see what looks like a frame of the UFO pop
Speaker 1: out from behind a cloud and pop back in and
Speaker 1: I'm all, what kind of different does it again? And
Speaker 1: the voice tells me, okay, we're the ones that have
Speaker 1: been talking to you the past few months, and I'm all, oh, okay.
Speaker 1: I started seeing the UFOs on a daily basis, and
Speaker 1: it probably this is odd, probably took me a few
Speaker 1: days a week maybe, and I finally asked them, you know,
Speaker 1: what what do I call you? Do you have a name?
Speaker 1: And they said, quintal A, you can call us quintal A. Okay,
Speaker 1: quintal A. What are you? And they said, we're what
Speaker 1: that you would call the senior. You can call us
Speaker 1: the senior please. And we're extraterrestrials that looked exactly like
Speaker 1: you do, or you look like us, is really what
Speaker 1: it is. That's so basically how I broke through and
Speaker 1: made my communication with these beings. And it's been now
Speaker 1: a little over thirty years that I have openly been
Speaker 1: communicating with them. In hindsight, I realized that all through
Speaker 1: my childhood they did and I thought it was me
Speaker 1: with a very active imagination that caused me to be
Speaker 1: very poorly in school and I was very distracted they
Speaker 1: would give me comics and teachers wives and a comic
Speaker 1: script that was just hilarious. And I didn't concentrate in
Speaker 1: school and didn't do very well, and I got into
Speaker 1: music high school. I thought I was going to be
Speaker 1: the next Gene Simmons and play music, and pursued that
Speaker 1: and dropped out of high school. Actually I've never graduated,
Speaker 1: so that brings me thirty years later with a whole
Speaker 1: lot of information.
Speaker 3: And it seems that at your lowest point, they made
Speaker 3: a connection.
Speaker 1: With you exactly to be honest with you, Nick, I
Speaker 1: think that probably saved my life. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I would have made through the years of homeless that
Speaker 1: I did without them. There's one and I didn't realize
Speaker 1: this until after I had gone through this experience. As
Speaker 1: I'm living in this truck and I'm setting and this
Speaker 1: is the town I grew up in. I'm setting on
Speaker 1: a curb outside of my truck. I got money, I
Speaker 1: got no food, I got no gas. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm looking up in the hills
Speaker 1: in this town I grew up in. There's some red
Speaker 1: and blue light flashing, fog coming out. Now, this is
Speaker 1: where I grew up. This is where I had my
Speaker 1: first car. I go up through my first girlfriend, and
Speaker 1: I had never ever, ever seen anything that would create
Speaker 1: lights and fogs up in these hills. So I'm setting
Speaker 1: on watching this and a guy comes walking out of
Speaker 1: the hill. He had long hair, he was a black guy,
Speaker 1: long hair guy, long hair, black guy. He was a
Speaker 1: guitar player, and he was homeless. So I'm a long haired,
Speaker 1: white guy, guitar player. Homeless became same level as me,
Speaker 1: ask me, what are you doing. I'm watching this up
Speaker 1: in the hills and trying to figure out what the
Speaker 1: heck it is, you know, And he says, well, that's
Speaker 1: for you. You need to go up there and see
Speaker 1: what it is. And I just kind of that went
Speaker 1: to the back of my mind. Nick, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just didn't think about it. And he asked me,
Speaker 1: what else, what are you what's going on with you?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? I said, I did. I have
Speaker 1: no money, I have no food, I have no gas.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do. And he says, okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's get in your truck. And we get in my
Speaker 1: truck with another guitar player friend and he takes me
Speaker 1: and shows me where to get food, showed me where
Speaker 1: did you get a vouser? And it was allowed. It's
Speaker 1: just a one time thing to get gas. And we
Speaker 1: got some gas, and he says, okay, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: to show you where you can go every Tuesday and
Speaker 1: Thursday and get a hot dinner. So we show up
Speaker 1: at this place and we've tried to get him to
Speaker 1: go play music with us down at the studio. He
Speaker 1: just kept the void from that whole conversation. Okay, we
Speaker 1: go to a church. We get out and he's, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: tonight it's the dinner and okay, well, hey, thank you,
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you did. You want to have dinner
Speaker 1: with this, he says, no, I got some friends waiting
Speaker 1: on me and pointed over and there's a group of
Speaker 1: people just staring at us. There's one woman, I believe,
Speaker 1: four guys. So hey, thanks, appreciate it everything you did,
Speaker 1: and good luck to you. I turn around. I talked
Speaker 1: to my friend. We look back and they're all now.
Speaker 1: In hindsight, my guide told me this was us. My guide,
Speaker 1: Quintale is five of these humanoid et so the one
Speaker 1: was in the truck was one of them, and then
Speaker 1: the other ones were waiting on him. They walked up
Speaker 1: and they were gone. That was my first base space
Speaker 1: encounter with them that I know of. They come right
Speaker 1: down to your level, right. You just go, wow, this
Speaker 1: is a really I could relate to this guy, really
Speaker 1: good person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were able to completely relate. You know, he
Speaker 3: had he had a guitar on him, he was he
Speaker 3: was homeless, and then he showed you where you can
Speaker 3: go and helped you exactly.
Speaker 1: And they said they they've done this throughout the history
Speaker 1: of mankind. This is how they work with people. You
Speaker 1: never even know that you're dealing with an et and
Speaker 1: it would make a.
Speaker 3: Lot of sense for them to do that. And I
Speaker 3: think it's the same kind of way, you know when
Speaker 3: when you hear stories of angels, you know, where people
Speaker 3: would have these strange encounters with people and that they're
Speaker 3: helped out, you know, a bit like that TV show
Speaker 3: remember Highway to Heaven.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly, kind of like that, you know, and.
Speaker 3: He was in human form and he always helped people.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. As a matter of fact, we just as
Speaker 1: a family watched the movie tonight. Michael. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've ever seen John Travoltam Michael where he plays
Speaker 1: the Angel.
Speaker 3: I remember that one, Yeah, I remember, yeah, good movie,
Speaker 3: good movie. Indeed, what did you say their name was?
Speaker 1: My guide's name is Quintala like q u I n
Speaker 1: h ta dash la y quinn to a quick way, okay,
Speaker 1: like we're human. There's the like f e e n yay.
Speaker 3: And did they ever say where they were from?
Speaker 1: They're from Earth. They exactly have told me where they're from.
Speaker 1: They've been on this planet for billions. Here we're going
Speaker 1: through complete physical human understanding, learning what it is to
Speaker 1: be physically human. It's a reincarnation process. Takes a couple
Speaker 1: thousand lives. We go through this, then you move on
Speaker 1: through seventy eight other forms of mental and physical development.
Speaker 1: Each one of these seven eight levels has a dimension,
Speaker 1: like we have the physical plane and two lower astral planes.
Speaker 1: That's the dimension here of parallel dimensions. That's what dimensions are.
Speaker 1: Each one of these levels of development require a dimension
Speaker 1: to play out the lesson like we're doing on the
Speaker 1: physical plane. Okay, signa. They're exactly like us. They're no
Speaker 1: different than we are. They went through complete physical human
Speaker 1: understanding here on Earth, just as we are. Now, that's
Speaker 1: why you've got a million of hammer modern day hammer
Speaker 1: and four hundred million year old piece of coal, for example.
Speaker 1: They there's been advanced humans on this planet way way
Speaker 1: way before us, way way way before what we consider
Speaker 1: the prehistoric era. Okay, that's exactly what they are. They've
Speaker 1: gone through what we're going through, and then the other
Speaker 1: seventy eight there is a point where they could use
Speaker 1: one of the total human mental capacity that.
Speaker 3: Have always been here guide in us.
Speaker 1: They have been here guiding ess and not only not
Speaker 1: only are they here guiding ess, this planet for them
Speaker 1: a biological genetic warehouse. This is where they get all
Speaker 1: of the genetics that they use in other places. They say,
Speaker 1: like Alpha Centauria. This is a common belief in the
Speaker 1: Ufo Ufolo Ufo community. Is it Alpha Sepera is coming
Speaker 1: here to visit us and look at end studies or
Speaker 1: watches or whatever. They're developing genetics, but taking them from
Speaker 1: here to alvas Patura. Okay, Now, the beings I'm telling
Speaker 1: you I'm communicating with are humans. They look like us.
Speaker 1: You'd never know none of the different unless they want
Speaker 1: you to know. Okay, Now there are the other beings
Speaker 1: that look like your typical alien grades and whatnot. What
Speaker 1: they are they call them the Gongoley Gongolay. You got
Speaker 1: the seventy eight layers of development that you go through,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, the senior are at the top
Speaker 1: of this. The gongolay are about halfway between. And what
Speaker 1: they are is like worker bees or the sena and
Speaker 1: they develop all the physical bodies and plants and animals
Speaker 1: and biological structures like her. And they do this for
Speaker 1: the scene. They work together, and you'll hear some abductees say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm in this craft and I'm being abducted, and I
Speaker 1: got these big bugheaded looking aliens over me doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: And there's like US military off to the side walking.
Speaker 1: It's not the military that's the scene. They look like us.
Speaker 1: They're running the whole show.
Speaker 3: And even up until today, are they still interacting with you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. When they said Nick that they would be with
Speaker 1: me the rest of my life, they've been with me
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. I jokingly tell people that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the lives decap because they've saved my life Nick.
Speaker 1: Since I was a teenager. A couple of times that
Speaker 1: I know of helping me answer questions. I just did
Speaker 1: a post last night about a guy I'm speaking with
Speaker 1: a message erney telling me his story about how he
Speaker 1: met a guy. And this guy says, well, I'm from
Speaker 1: another planet, and he tells the guy that I'm talking
Speaker 1: with that you're from another planet too. Now, a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, Nick, I probably would have pulled this guy.
Speaker 1: You know, I think maybe you're confusing things about being
Speaker 1: from a different planet, because I didn't think it worked
Speaker 1: that way. But in reading this guy's story, I'm reading
Speaker 1: his story and my guides are showing me it's like
Speaker 1: a big camoraniser of different dimensions and how we're learning
Speaker 1: on different levels, and that's what this guy is from
Speaker 1: one of these levels. And what he's telling me is
Speaker 1: the truth. But it was white claim that he is
Speaker 1: actually not of humanity. Okay, just like we're born into
Speaker 1: a physical body, all of our previous lives are put
Speaker 1: on a back burner. You don't you forget about it.
Speaker 1: You will never forget about them once you cross back over.
Speaker 1: But when you're physically alive, it's just kind of stored
Speaker 1: away until you die and go back to these astral planes,
Speaker 1: which the astral plane, the spiritual We're all of spiritual energy,
Speaker 1: just like the signe I mentioned their spirits. They've been
Speaker 1: through the reincarnation and they don't go through life, birth
Speaker 1: and all the like we are because they've been through
Speaker 1: that and moved aft that. We're all going through these
Speaker 1: levels of understanding. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy would
Speaker 1: see his friend told him he was from another planet,
Speaker 1: and they showed me in a panmorandic picture. Added to
Speaker 1: what I have learned from them so far, and they
Speaker 1: just added in more pieces that fit into what I
Speaker 1: call the bigger picture. They call the process of creation,
Speaker 1: these seventy eight forms of mental physical understanding, and then
Speaker 1: it fits in with this the yugas, the four cycles
Speaker 1: of the Earth, and it repeats or all gods and training.
Speaker 1: Is what I was getting at.
Speaker 3: And are you able to call on them?
Speaker 1: Yes? I will ask them questions and they generally will
Speaker 1: answer you generally around me, Nick.
Speaker 3: So you able to say, if you was to drive
Speaker 3: into the desert, would you able to initiate a contact
Speaker 3: physically with them?
Speaker 1: Yes, I've done that. Okay, I've had them appeer for
Speaker 1: other people. I've had them a peer for people that
Speaker 1: I know. I've had them a or for a gentleman
Speaker 1: in the UK. He started, you know, and I tell him,
Speaker 1: when I do this, you got to be very patient,
Speaker 1: you got to be very open minded. You've got to
Speaker 1: look at the subtle because for example, I've done this
Speaker 1: and an airplane will fly by. I generally have people
Speaker 1: go out watch the sky for an hour. What do
Speaker 1: you say, do you have air traffic? You have what on?
Speaker 1: Airplanes fly by? And this one particular guy was going, yeah,
Speaker 1: an airplane flew by, but there was something odd about it.
Speaker 1: It just didn't look right or fly right. And I
Speaker 1: told them, okay, that was them. Now if you acknowledge
Speaker 1: that what you just saw is not an actual airplane
Speaker 1: and is these extraterrestrials, it's going to progress. And it
Speaker 1: progressed him to the point where I remember him writing me,
Speaker 1: now this thing here writing to me and saying, I
Speaker 1: got this little UFO flying around in my garden. So
Speaker 1: it depends on the person. Some people nick are not
Speaker 1: meant to see him. Some people cannot handle seeing him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would will have asked them up here
Speaker 1: and they out. Me and some friends we've gone out
Speaker 1: and had a blouse just watching different manifestations of these crowds.
Speaker 3: Like I say on the show, keep watching this guy.
Speaker 3: So literally, that's all I did. If I yes, that's
Speaker 3: all I do, day all night, in between recordings of day.
Speaker 1: If they want you to know, like I said, be
Speaker 1: born next, You're not going to know unless they want
Speaker 1: you to know.
Speaker 3: That's true, you know, And like you said about the
Speaker 3: previous guy that you were messaging, I've had a few
Speaker 3: guests on which an example would be there was a
Speaker 3: guy in America and he lived in a very small town,
Speaker 3: a town where everyone knew each other, and he was
Speaker 3: telling me he was at the bar with a load
Speaker 3: of his mates and two people came into the bar.
Speaker 3: This isn't It wasn't long ago this episode, but a
Speaker 3: couple of people come into the bar and they were
Speaker 3: wearing what looked like like seventies clothes, and they apparently
Speaker 3: were a bit different. Nobody recognized him because it was
Speaker 3: such a small town, and this guy was chatting him
Speaker 3: for the bar, and he then invited him back to
Speaker 3: another friend's backyard where they continued drinking's beer and stuff,
Speaker 3: and they told him, they goes, you know, we're not
Speaker 3: from around here, We're from another planet. Eventually, they left
Speaker 3: and they folks out. Strange, Yeah, strange little meetings with people.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I think it's probably more common than people realize.
Speaker 1: A lot of people that don't want to admit that, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to an alien because I'm going to be
Speaker 1: looked at like like you're crazy or an idiot or
Speaker 1: whatever label they want to put on you at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you hear these people make them out to
Speaker 1: be monsters and all that. They're out here too, and data,
Speaker 1: so take us over all of that. I don't believe
Speaker 1: that's true, Nick, And from what I learned from them,
Speaker 1: it's not that you have good and bad. That's the
Speaker 1: terrestrials you have. It gets intentions of the humans and
Speaker 1: a lot of it has to deal with their life's choice.
Speaker 1: So before you're born, you go through a meeting. You
Speaker 1: choose what you're going to learn, what you're going to
Speaker 1: be born to. If you have a karma debt you
Speaker 1: have to pay off. This is all guided by karma
Speaker 1: or reincarnation process. So you go through this pre birth meeting,
Speaker 1: you make the choices, you're born, and you go through
Speaker 1: this process.
Speaker 3: It's been like going to a library, isn't it and
Speaker 3: picking a book and you're like, I want to read
Speaker 3: this book now. And I think that's the same thing reincarnation.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to take different books. You can't
Speaker 3: always you know, you obviously can't take the easy book.
Speaker 3: You have to take some of the books which are
Speaker 3: hard reading, you know, hard to absorb. And I think
Speaker 3: that's how life is. I think sometimes when people go
Speaker 3: in through difficult times in their life, it can make
Speaker 3: it easier by realizing that you've already chose this life
Speaker 3: and this is your learning process.
Speaker 1: Nick, that's a really good way of putting it. I
Speaker 1: agree with one hundred percent. You know, it's like me,
Speaker 1: I haven't had a rough life. I haven't had an
Speaker 1: easy life. It's still at this point it's not easy.
Speaker 1: I struggle yesterday, you know, but it's what I've chosen
Speaker 1: to do and I've accepted that and it's what I'm learning.
Speaker 3: So you just kind of go with it, and you
Speaker 3: wouldn't change your life.
Speaker 1: There's parts that I would like to change, but is
Speaker 1: it meant to be changed? Probably not. I mean, I
Speaker 1: got a lot of business ideas that I want to do. Nick,
Speaker 1: my daughter's mother calls me the idea machine. I got
Speaker 1: sheets of ideas. Okay, My main idea I want to
Speaker 1: do is called work for Life, which is tickting proke lives.
Speaker 1: We would like to focus on the unwed young mothers
Speaker 1: that the guide fail on, leave them with kids, pull
Speaker 1: them into a tough love living program and you basically
Speaker 1: got to reteach them because I don't know about in
Speaker 1: the UK, but in the United States, some of these
Speaker 1: chaps are they have no parents at home. The bot
Speaker 1: parents got a worker. It's a single mom that's trying
Speaker 1: to support these kids and sees at work and they're
Speaker 1: raised by a TV or who knows who, and they
Speaker 1: need to be re taught. This is you know, how
Speaker 1: you get up and you have your breakfast, you brush
Speaker 1: your teeth, you take a shower, you make your bed,
Speaker 1: and this is how you pay your bills and get
Speaker 1: your job. And you train them and job still get
Speaker 1: put in the job, teach how to build credit, buy
Speaker 1: a house. I call it work for Life. This is
Speaker 1: my main business idea that I want to do. But myself,
Speaker 1: I've never had money. I live to be very very
Speaker 1: be very very honest. I live below the level of
Speaker 1: poverty in the United States. I don't have money and
Speaker 1: in order to make money. Everybody knows you got to
Speaker 1: have money. And one of these days I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: one of my ideas are going to jump off. I'll
Speaker 1: get an investor, and I'll be able to do all
Speaker 1: of this that I want to do. But it's not
Speaker 1: going to be off of this information that I have
Speaker 1: from these vps to sell it or make money, or
Speaker 1: even to help people with their help or their advice
Speaker 1: or their information that I couldn't charge for.
Speaker 3: Of course not. And yeah, you're absolutely the right. The
Speaker 3: worst teacher in the world is the television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: So that's just kind of that's one of the first
Speaker 1: things I've heard that the common amongst people come in
Speaker 1: contact with these beings. It's the first thing they do
Speaker 1: is they're kind of in selling you to go out
Speaker 1: and help people's lives better, and they do. They that's
Speaker 1: the first thing they did for me, And that's why
Speaker 1: I went through the whole homeless thing. I grew up
Speaker 1: in one house, middle class, new school clothes every year,
Speaker 1: Christmas present. You know what I'm saying, You're basic, you know,
Speaker 1: a nice childhood, and I needed to learn how other
Speaker 1: people live. So I had to go through that experience
Speaker 1: of living in the back of this truck for ten
Speaker 1: years to get it, you know, and in that times
Speaker 1: when they contacted me and helped me out of that situation.
Speaker 1: Weird how they work. You know.
Speaker 3: The world would be a very different place if everyone
Speaker 3: did that, if everyone went out and helped people, it
Speaker 3: would be a very different place, it would.
Speaker 1: I agree with you with this reincarnation process my belief
Speaker 1: and I want to say this, I'm not out to
Speaker 1: try to change anybody's belief system, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: or convince anybody or whatever. I simply want to share
Speaker 1: what they shared with me.
Speaker 3: Now, Gary, you have a Facebook page, is that right?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: What is the name of it?
Speaker 1: That theoretical gift?
Speaker 3: The theoretical Gift? What kind of information do you have
Speaker 3: on that?
Speaker 2: Gary?
Speaker 1: What I've been doing is once again, thirty years I've
Speaker 1: been doing this, Nick and I've started I've on online
Speaker 1: and try to get these theories out and I get
Speaker 1: ready to feel it up with down, I get to discouraged,
Speaker 1: give up, and I've done this a few times over
Speaker 1: about thirty years. So this round right now, I've been
Speaker 1: asked probably about two months and I'm getting a better response.
Speaker 1: I'm happy, happy, happy to say that I deal with
Speaker 1: a lot of trolls, with a lot of people. You're
Speaker 1: an idiot, you're more on, you're on drugs, you're on
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And this time I'm getting
Speaker 1: a lot of support, really kind, nice people. So my
Speaker 1: Theoretical Gifts Facebook page basically I'm crossed posting what I've
Speaker 1: been posting on the internet, which is information I've gotten
Speaker 1: from my guide Quintaala and some of my experiences. It's
Speaker 1: about sharing the information online. That's what the Theoretical Book
Speaker 1: facebook page is about. So I'm talking with people and
Speaker 1: rather retyping it all I can go here, go look
Speaker 1: at this read please if you would, and if you
Speaker 1: got questions, I'm more than happy to answer in public
Speaker 1: forum or in messenger. I get a lot a lot
Speaker 1: of people come to be a messenger that don't want
Speaker 1: to come out and tell their story publicly because of
Speaker 1: the way people treat them. I've been through it. I
Speaker 1: know how they feel, but I don't want them to
Speaker 1: stop me out. Sure what people think about me, Nick,
Speaker 1: this is what I've been through. This is you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not making this up and I don't feel I
Speaker 1: need to prove myself to anybody. If you want to listen, listen.
Speaker 1: If you don't, more power to you. But I'm not
Speaker 1: going to argue with you exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The Facebook page the theoretical gift. Okay, so what I
Speaker 3: do is I'll put a put a link down below
Speaker 3: so people go check it out.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: Thank you, You're more than welcome.
Speaker 1: I'm welcome anybody that wants to come up me with questions,
Speaker 1: you know, as long as they're professional. And even there's
Speaker 1: people that come in and they don't agree with what
Speaker 1: I say. I could have a professional conversation. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you need to make up for your mind what you
Speaker 1: want to believe, not have me tell you what to believe,
Speaker 1: you know, And I could have conversations. But when they
Speaker 1: get mean and naci not cool. But if anybody wants
Speaker 1: to contact me on messager, you know, I get people
Speaker 1: all the time. I get a lot of people that
Speaker 1: these life start taking pictures and video and I kind
Speaker 1: of see this coming, and I'll contact them a messager
Speaker 1: and once I get out of them that they're hearing
Speaker 1: a voice, like I hear a voice now you will
Speaker 1: tell them, hey, I hear a voice that the information
Speaker 1: you're reading it's from a voice that I hear, and
Speaker 1: once they will admit that they're hearing this voice, I
Speaker 1: could certainly explain to them what's going on, and usually
Speaker 1: introduce them to who's trying to talk to them, because
Speaker 1: that's all it is, you know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: got individuals trying to talk to either or your spirit guide.
Speaker 1: You give them a name or I walk them through
Speaker 1: a process sometimes and they got to figure the name
Speaker 1: out themselves and make them work for it. And then
Speaker 1: you take somebody that could be considered a schizophrenic. I
Speaker 1: can be considered schizophrenic because I hear a disembodied voice,
Speaker 1: and you take them from that to where they're basically
Speaker 1: a spiritual medium. They could do readings, they could use
Speaker 1: it as a friend. It's up to them what they
Speaker 1: want to do with their gifts. But I get a
Speaker 1: lot of these coming to me in private because they
Speaker 1: don't want to what they don't want to admit in public.
Speaker 1: And I will never tell share their stories or their names.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very personal.
Speaker 3: Exactly so cool. That's wonderful, Gary, I.
Speaker 1: Just appreciate you giving me the opportunity, I really really do.
Speaker 1: You're the first one that I've just given me an
Speaker 1: opportunity to talk and it's been thirty years.
Speaker 3: So this is what the show's about.
Speaker 1: Gary, Good. Thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: It's giving a voice to people. Gary, I really appreciate
Speaker 3: you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3: You're more than welcome. Gary, keep in contact, all right,
Speaker 3: take care of and our talk soon.
Speaker 1: To Okay, thank you, bye, Gary, bye bye.
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Speaker 3: to the Strange. Hello Jim, and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me, Thank you for.
Speaker 3: Joining us today. And you're call in from the Philippines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, I'm originally from United States, but I migrated
Speaker 2: to the Philippines and with them here.
Speaker 4: Good choice.
Speaker 3: Now, Jim, your experiences go back to the late nineteen fifties.
Speaker 3: Would you like to stand at the very beginning, please, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Back when I was oh, probably three and a half
Speaker 2: four years old, I caught pneumonia. And I know a
Speaker 2: lot of people say it they caught your death experience,
Speaker 2: but I was said, I knew I was sad. I
Speaker 2: saw myself anyways, when I when I left my body,
Speaker 2: I was out of it. I seen a doorway and
Speaker 2: I knew it was whatever I was. It was the
Speaker 2: way home. To go through that doorway. Well, in the
Speaker 2: back of the doorway, it was like the whole back
Speaker 2: it looked like it was a mile away from the doorway.
Speaker 2: The way didn't come all the way to the door.
Speaker 2: And I knew if somebody was supposed to meet me
Speaker 2: there to take me back to where I belonged, they
Speaker 2: wasn't there. So I started to look around, and I'm
Speaker 2: hovering in the air over my bed at the foot
Speaker 2: on my bed, and I noticed, I can the walls
Speaker 2: are trans turn I can see through the walls, my
Speaker 2: bedroom walls, and I did a one eighty to my best.
Speaker 2: I had to kilt down, but I saw my own body.
Speaker 2: I call it the vessel. I saw the vessel there,
Speaker 2: and I could see it was covered with blind to
Speaker 2: fallow way up to my nest. My mother probably did
Speaker 2: a had me covered up like that because of the pneumonia.
Speaker 2: And my head was turned to the right, like over
Speaker 2: my shoulder, and I could actually see my part of
Speaker 2: my tongue hanging out of my mouth. I did a
Speaker 2: one eighty back around to my right and there was
Speaker 2: the doorway in that light. Well, like I said, I
Speaker 2: knew I was supposed to go through that to go home. Well,
Speaker 2: I was all ready to go through it, and to
Speaker 2: the right in the doorway, I thought a little black
Speaker 2: spot way in the back, and so it stopped me
Speaker 2: from going through. Watching it anyway, As I watched it,
Speaker 2: it kept getting a little bigger and bigger and bigger,
Speaker 2: got closer. I started to see a form. I could
Speaker 2: see a corsel, laid arm and the head, and it
Speaker 2: got up to the doorway. I'm going to say probably
Speaker 2: twenty to forty feet before it got to the doorway.
Speaker 1: It stopped.
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering, why am I being shown this? And
Speaker 2: I received the message. It said. Now when I received
Speaker 2: this message what I was, I heard it through every
Speaker 2: part of what I was. I didn't hear it like well,
Speaker 2: I had no heir. The only thing I had was
Speaker 2: a form an eye. I heard it through every part
Speaker 2: of what I was. And it said to me, I
Speaker 2: am in this form, so you will not be afraid.
Speaker 2: I thought to myself, well, I'm not afraid. Then it
Speaker 2: told me it wasn't my time to die. I had
Speaker 2: to go back, and I was saying, I don't want
Speaker 2: to go back, and it was like something was forcing
Speaker 2: me to go back into the vessel, and I can
Speaker 2: remember going through the skin, the bones, and the flesh.
Speaker 2: I could see that all happened when I was going
Speaker 2: through it. Now what it showed me. At the time,
Speaker 2: I really wasn't sure what it was. Then several years
Speaker 2: later when I got the sixteenth where I lived down
Speaker 2: a dairy farm, and it was in the summertime. It
Speaker 2: was just a couple of weeks after my birthday. My
Speaker 2: birthday is two and eighteenth, and it was probably the
Speaker 2: very end of June early July. One night, I woke
Speaker 2: up and I was freezing. I mean I was so cold.
Speaker 2: It was like I was in a big meat freezer.
Speaker 2: I was so cold before. While, before I go any further,
Speaker 2: I have to explain how I swept. Okay, Now, when
Speaker 2: I slept, I either slept on my left or right side.
Speaker 2: When I would get in bed, I would lit first
Speaker 2: lay on my back and I'd lift my legs way
Speaker 2: up there, pull of my blankets out underneath from the
Speaker 2: massive from the box spring. My mother just sorts saying,
Speaker 2: you saw me, Junior, so Juner, how do you get
Speaker 2: your bed such a mess?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: Anyways, and I had turned my light off, but like
Speaker 2: I said, I was so cold. I sat up and
Speaker 2: well before I set up, I noticed my bed was
Speaker 2: made so perfect. The blankets were all pulled it underneath
Speaker 2: the bed, at the foot of the bed, up along
Speaker 2: the side. The blankets were up over my up under
Speaker 2: my under arm, over my chest down the other side.
Speaker 2: We pulled the back probably five or six inches, and
Speaker 2: I think probably my bed get made like this. But
Speaker 2: I sat up, and I know my t shirt was
Speaker 2: so it was so wept. I grabbed it. I put
Speaker 2: my hands up to my chest and I grabbed it
Speaker 2: and I clean water like flick would come between my
Speaker 2: fingers and between my finger and some wet my lot loose.
Speaker 2: But when I did the water it was like it
Speaker 2: was a lighter or right back into my shirt. I
Speaker 2: thought to myself, what the holes going on? So I
Speaker 2: got out of bed, I took the shirt off, threw
Speaker 2: it on the floor next to my bed. I got
Speaker 2: another dry shirt, put it done because I had well,
Speaker 2: my bedtime every night was nine o'clock because during the
Speaker 2: July is our busiest time of the year. When we
Speaker 2: were on the fairy come to the hand, I got
Speaker 2: back in bed, turned my light off and I just
Speaker 2: I don't know if went back to bed, and this
Speaker 2: was probably like three or four block in the morning,
Speaker 2: because I had to get up at slip so we
Speaker 2: could be milking. At six thirty. Well, six o'clock came around.
Speaker 2: I got up and I remember being cold stuff, and
Speaker 2: I went to pick my t shirt up to throw
Speaker 2: into my dirty clothes then. But when I picked it up,
Speaker 2: I was expecting it to still still be wet, because
Speaker 2: there was no way it was gonna what as that was,
Speaker 2: it would be dry. But it was bone dry. I thought,
Speaker 2: what's going on. I must have I must have been dreaming,
Speaker 2: just not norm you know, I dreampt it. So a
Speaker 2: couple of days later, we was going to bail Harry
Speaker 2: and I was sitting in the back of where it
Speaker 2: picked up stick and all of a sudden, out of
Speaker 2: the blue, like a video playing in my head, I
Speaker 2: was walking up this ramp. It was a spiral like
Speaker 2: a spiral staircase, but it was a ramp, and the
Speaker 2: ramp probably was at least twenty feet wide, and the
Speaker 2: wall was probably I don't know, maybe twenty five thirty
Speaker 2: feet away from the ramp, and it's a bright Chinese
Speaker 2: sugar cower that I've never seen before. And I can
Speaker 2: feel if something's controlling me. I'm being made to walk
Speaker 2: up this ramp. Well, I can move my head just
Speaker 2: a little bit. In my eyes, I'm looking at the wall,
Speaker 2: and I said, I kind of looked to see where
Speaker 2: I was if there's I couldn't see, no corners, no place.
Speaker 2: And as I looked, great, and I kind of like
Speaker 2: looked down the wall kind of like curved in then
Speaker 2: looking less and right. It was like looking at a
Speaker 2: drum round where the to see. Well, as I was
Speaker 2: walking being made to walk up, I felt whatever was
Speaker 2: controlling me. I could feel a strip loosen on me.
Speaker 2: And I looked over to my right and I saw
Speaker 2: all these different size pipes in the center of the
Speaker 2: fil lamp. And as I looked, I kind of looked down.
Speaker 2: I was trying to see where I was at. And
Speaker 2: I had no idea where I was at. And I
Speaker 2: looked and there was on a ramp. There was a scene.
Speaker 2: It was probably three and a half four foot tall.
Speaker 2: I had almond shape eyes, and I know that I
Speaker 2: had to be kind of.
Speaker 1: Like flat on its face.
Speaker 2: Then it was the end of the video. It's what's
Speaker 2: the host going on? I had no idea I didn't
Speaker 2: say that anybody because I thought everybody in my family
Speaker 2: but finally thought I was all crazy. So about a
Speaker 2: week later, same thing, what tee shirt that made so perfect? Well,
Speaker 2: I got to be having a dreams that I'm not remembering.
Speaker 2: So at this time nothing happened. I remember nothing, I
Speaker 2: didn't see nothing. Well, I thought maybe somebody was someone
Speaker 2: in my bedroom trying a jolt on me. So I
Speaker 2: got the tea. I had two bedroom doors I had,
Speaker 2: I got the keys to them and locked my Edwin door. Figure,
Speaker 2: I keep them out, nobody's going.
Speaker 4: To do it.
Speaker 2: Well the end a week later, that same thing happened.
Speaker 2: What tea shirt freezing that made perfect? But different was
Speaker 2: there was a couple of things different. Once I had
Speaker 2: this awful, haunting feeling I had killed and I felt
Speaker 2: like I had been in the military. Now I'm really puzzled.
Speaker 2: I'm really thinking, what the hell is going on? So
Speaker 2: I taught myself and to believe when I was just
Speaker 2: having dreams, didn't remember what was going on. So I
Speaker 2: kind of like put everything in the back of my
Speaker 2: mind about it. But I mean I didn't totally forget
Speaker 2: about it. So this is in nineteen sixty nine, So
Speaker 2: here your lits later, I was stating this squirrel. And
Speaker 2: it was probably in October, maybe September.
Speaker 1: We had gone to.
Speaker 2: On a Saturday night. We had gone to a late
Speaker 2: showing of a movie and it probably got over about
Speaker 2: one o'clot and because we both lived in the country,
Speaker 2: were on the way home or on the way taking
Speaker 2: her home. This one road it was called Mosshill Road.
Speaker 2: Whichever end you went up up the it was uphill.
Speaker 2: It was another like a small mountain and on the
Speaker 2: top of kind of flattened out. While we got up there,
Speaker 2: and I was driving real slow to the road. It
Speaker 2: was a dirt road part of it, and it was
Speaker 2: not very wide. You had to go slow. If you
Speaker 2: went off the the way I was going. If you
Speaker 2: went off the right side, you was you. I was
Speaker 2: tumble down the hill. Well, anyways, as I'm driving, i'm
Speaker 2: my shoulder. It felt like somebody caught me on my shoulder.
Speaker 2: And at first I thought, well, was at the movies.
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody got her in my car was in the.
Speaker 1: Back of it.
Speaker 2: Like I looked around to my left and side to
Speaker 2: see it, and I don't say nothing got out of
Speaker 2: my window. So I was, you know, I've seen this
Speaker 2: right right.
Speaker 1: It's sad.
Speaker 2: It was way out to the west, and we had
Speaker 2: we have a small airport where I live, and I
Speaker 2: thought a plane was coming in to land. But now
Speaker 2: this is probably like two o'clock in the morning now,
Speaker 2: but our airport was so small it was eleven o'clock.
Speaker 2: It shut down. I thought, well, it can't see an
Speaker 2: airplane coming in. So I stopped the car and we
Speaker 2: got out, and they way we watched it, and I
Speaker 2: were watching it. It was almost directly over top of us,
Speaker 2: but to the west of us, and I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: I said, my god, I've seen that color before. I
Speaker 2: was in side of it. And it got wait over
Speaker 2: top of us, but in front of us a little bit,
Speaker 2: and it made a turn to the north. Now this
Speaker 2: turn wasn't a turn, it was a slide. It never
Speaker 2: stopped to slow down. It just slid sideways. And while
Speaker 2: it was the size of it had to be, oh,
Speaker 2: probably the size of a soccer ball, but it was
Speaker 2: way up in the sky and it went down to
Speaker 2: where it was almost the size probably the ton of ball.
Speaker 2: Then without stopping, it reversed and it comes back forward
Speaker 2: this and her and I. We received the message. PLO
Speaker 2: prophetically said we're not interested you, and I said to myself, okay,
Speaker 2: I said, must be, We're not what they were looking for.
Speaker 2: So comes back and where did ninety degrees slide? Sideways?
Speaker 2: It got there as three over top of us, and
Speaker 2: it went south, probably the same about the size of
Speaker 2: the Tunnis balls and that come back and it was
Speaker 2: coming back. It said we're not interested in your planet.
Speaker 2: So when they said that, I figured, well, they wasn't
Speaker 2: talking about us, they were talking about all humans. So
Speaker 2: it's still headed back work where it's at the ninety
Speaker 2: degree slide. Anyways, just before it got that, we received
Speaker 2: the third message. It said, that's what we can do.
Speaker 2: Our eyes are glued on it because we know something
Speaker 2: was going to happen. Anyways, did the nineties that stopped
Speaker 2: this worst second? And that took off so fast, I
Speaker 2: mean it had to be close to the light speed.
Speaker 2: And if you would have blinked your eyes, you would
Speaker 2: have never seen you would have lost it, you would
Speaker 2: have never seen it again. We could watch it going
Speaker 2: to the wash and we could tell it was going
Speaker 2: like you know, out way out in space. So after that,
Speaker 2: I thought maybe that wasn't a coincidence. They seen that.
Speaker 2: I was made to see that because they didn't want
Speaker 2: me to forget what happened to me in sixty nine.
Speaker 2: What happened was I was abducted three times. Now, time
Speaker 2: went on and seventy five I got married, and I
Speaker 2: kind of put everything to lay at the UFOs and
Speaker 2: aliens behind me. Wow. Then in the late eighties, Ronald
Speaker 2: Reagan was president and I think it was a second term,
Speaker 2: and he was at the United Nations given a speech
Speaker 2: and he was talking about some bad aliens. And I
Speaker 2: stood up for my tear because my wife and I
Speaker 2: was watching it. I said, I know something about the
Speaker 2: bad aliens. He says, what are you talking about? I said,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know something about bad aliens.
Speaker 2: So now I'm really really early puzzled. Why would I
Speaker 2: know about some bad aliens. So now I'm trying to
Speaker 2: find anything. I kind of about ali hands. I watch
Speaker 2: watching news programs to see if they're talking about but
Speaker 2: I'm not getting no place. So then in two thousand,
Speaker 2: my wife and I separated, and then two thousand and
Speaker 2: three we finally got our divorce and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: and I kept the house that we had and I
Speaker 2: have had earth blodus and my knee and my shoulder,
Speaker 2: and in the winter times it was really bad because
Speaker 2: in the winter time it got pulled there in New
Speaker 2: York State where I was at well. Anyways, I sold
Speaker 2: the house to some people I knew and they let
Speaker 2: me stay there for a couple of months. I get
Speaker 2: everything moved because I was going to move with a
Speaker 2: brother down south in Florida. And last month I was there.
Speaker 2: Every time I went to bed, didn't matter if I
Speaker 2: was going to bed for the night or just taking
Speaker 2: a nap. Lay there and there would be four of them,
Speaker 2: and it was like they were a shadow and oblog
Speaker 2: and shadow. I couldn't move. I was like I was
Speaker 2: totally paralyzed from from the neck down. And as I
Speaker 2: see these shadows, there's one almost on each side of
Speaker 2: my my shoulders, my left and right, and at my
Speaker 2: legs like on knees, but I can't tell what they are.
Speaker 2: They're like an oblong black shadow standing and has come forward.
Speaker 2: There would be another one right behind it. And each
Speaker 2: time as it close and closer they got, there was
Speaker 2: more of them. And as it got close to me
Speaker 2: and stopped like all the other shaddles just go into one,
Speaker 2: but I could never make out what they were. Well,
Speaker 2: this went on for a whole month. I thought I
Speaker 2: was going not crazy, So I was gonna call a psychiatrist.
Speaker 2: Well the day before I was going to fall and
Speaker 2: come up with this idea. I just I'm not going
Speaker 2: to lay. I'm going to just lay there. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to try to flight to get away. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna lay there to see what happened. And sure enough
Speaker 2: they the images of them. They were four small grays
Speaker 2: that one was holding my right shoulder down, my left
Speaker 2: shoulder hand on it, my shoulder and my elbow. I
Speaker 2: was on the table, my arms are out, my palms
Speaker 2: are down, and two come up on my leg. One
Speaker 2: just they had one hand just above my knee pushing
Speaker 2: my leg down, the other hand holding my leg. Then
Speaker 2: above me. There was like seeing It's like seeing an
Speaker 2: operating on big light, but it was way high up.
Speaker 2: I couldn't look straight up at it because it was
Speaker 2: so bright. And I'm turning my head because thinking did
Speaker 2: I get wounded? But why am I thinking I got wounded?
Speaker 2: And I'm looking over to see where I got wounded?
Speaker 2: And I looked to my left and out of the dark,
Speaker 2: because the room was flat dark, great big tall alien
Speaker 2: probably I'm going to say eight nine feet tall, come
Speaker 2: out of the dark and come up to my mid waist.
Speaker 2: I grabbed an instrument up by the light with its
Speaker 2: left hand, the foot like the fall of the hand,
Speaker 2: just below my sternum. And I had only three fingers
Speaker 2: when they were long, and they come all the way
Speaker 2: up up to my throat. That big instrument was pulling
Speaker 2: it down towards me. It was pulling down towards my face.
Speaker 2: I could say. It looked like a big swinge, a
Speaker 2: big needle on it bout the size of the pencil,
Speaker 2: well maybe even bigger than that. I thought to myself,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's gonna hurt. It's gonna stick and
Speaker 2: right in the eye with it. And it gets closed,
Speaker 2: right kid, it's not coming towards my eye, but just
Speaker 2: above it. And it touched me just above my right eye,
Speaker 2: towards to my nose and just above it, almost where
Speaker 2: people stayed with the third eye is up there, and
Speaker 2: it was whites out, just nothing. I was awaken bed
Speaker 2: and all this information I'm floating into my head. It
Speaker 2: was like an avalanche. I couldn't grasp it all, but
Speaker 2: I saw it enough of it, but I knew what happened.
Speaker 2: First night they abducted me. They took me to the Moon,
Speaker 2: and I was there and I was standing on the
Speaker 2: edge of a crater, and just above me, I could
Speaker 2: see part of that ship and it was definitely Sastra.
Speaker 2: Feet like I said, maybe three feet away from the crater.
Speaker 2: And I take my feet and I move them back
Speaker 2: and forth, and I start slinking down. I probably go
Speaker 2: down like three or four inches under the surface and
Speaker 2: look in the crater and I see three or four
Speaker 2: buildings tall but not with a tall and off of
Speaker 2: two of them there was want some hucks coming off
Speaker 2: of them, and there was some white floodlights on the
Speaker 2: tall buildings flashing down on them. See because it was dark,
Speaker 2: I mean it was really black, and they were camouflaged
Speaker 2: and looked just like the moon. That I remember. The
Speaker 2: next thing I remember is I was at the end
Speaker 2: of one of the quantum hots. We went through one
Speaker 2: group of doors that shot. There was another shot in
Speaker 2: front of the who had to wait there that there
Speaker 2: was like a mist that came down over.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I was in a space suit. I wasn't in all there.
Speaker 2: I mean I was in a space suit. And then
Speaker 2: after a few minutes, we walked through the second door,
Speaker 2: went through a right into a little thing and a
Speaker 2: human person helped me take the space suit off just
Speaker 2: where I took a physical examination, and I remember my
Speaker 2: my t shirt, but I un'ward. I had to pull
Speaker 2: it out, I quick board. I had to carry it
Speaker 2: to different stations where they did different things testing me.
Speaker 2: That's where they took me first time. The second time
Speaker 2: it was a touch for fear. They wanted to see
Speaker 2: what you're reft and it was when you see you
Speaker 2: wasn't on Earth, out in space.
Speaker 1: This is where I not.
Speaker 2: When I was died, I was shold that the air
Speaker 2: I said, so you will not be afraid that this
Speaker 2: is where I'm met it. That's why I was sold,
Speaker 2: so I would not be afraid. It was doing the
Speaker 2: toughs that had you un your mind control. And I
Speaker 2: got to tell you, that is the strangest thing I
Speaker 2: ever had done. I was standing there and it was
Speaker 2: standing right behind me, and it was so close. It's
Speaker 2: like I could feel feel it against my body, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't touching me. And I was looking out this. Uh.
Speaker 2: I was looking around and there was a window in
Speaker 2: front of me, but it wasn't a window, and I'm
Speaker 2: looking out there in a really black out there dark
Speaker 2: and I looked down to my down a little bit
Speaker 2: where I can see a planet, probably the size of
Speaker 2: a soccer ball, size of a basketball, beautiful glue color.
Speaker 2: And I think it was Pacific that I was looking at.
Speaker 1: I know it was there.
Speaker 2: As I'm looking there in mind control, I can feel
Speaker 2: it's mind and tangling with my mind. It's like a
Speaker 2: big ball of strength, both our minds together, and I
Speaker 2: can actually see with its eyes. I'm looking at myself
Speaker 2: the top of my head. And like I said, the
Speaker 2: one race was like eight nine ten foot tall. They're
Speaker 2: really tall. We only have three hingers and I have
Speaker 2: a I had an artist raw fishery rays as I'm
Speaker 2: doing it there, and they told me I was forbidden
Speaker 2: to turn around and looked at him, and I thought,
Speaker 2: maybe that's why, because I couldn't move nothing. The only
Speaker 2: thing I could move is my eyes. And I think
Speaker 2: that's wise because I was forbidden to turn around look
Speaker 2: at him, and I said, why can't I see him?
Speaker 2: And answered me, it said it was five other alien
Speaker 2: races plus one military human. They want to see what
Speaker 2: the reaction is that me and not on the planet
Speaker 2: and out in state, and that told me from other
Speaker 2: friends that they wanted to make contact with us, full contacts.
Speaker 2: They want they wanted people to know about them. But
Speaker 2: they have rules. One of their rules are before they
Speaker 2: make contact with any plant, full contact. Now this is
Speaker 2: my word, I use government. The governments of all the
Speaker 2: world have to agree on it, and it said ruling powers.
Speaker 2: They all have to agree on it. But if this
Speaker 2: one does know, they will not make full contacts. Well,
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years and years telling people
Speaker 2: are saying about Oh you know, like last year I
Speaker 2: did the interview with a guy and I told him,
Speaker 2: I says, they was back in I think it was
Speaker 2: soon there. The American government was supposed to come out
Speaker 2: with about UFO. People said, oh, this strip they will
Speaker 2: not It's not going to happen anytime soon. All the
Speaker 2: government from the world of got with three on them.
Speaker 2: And that's what it told me.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jim, good job. And at the time you didn't
Speaker 3: really you didn't have any of these memories. These memories
Speaker 3: came came later on.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, because see they came back and they gave
Speaker 2: them to me. Why I don't know, because if they
Speaker 2: didn't come back and do that, well, I said for
Speaker 2: a whole month and that there, I would still be
Speaker 2: wondering what happened to me. Then after that is when
Speaker 2: I could. I found out I could call an UFO,
Speaker 2: I can go outside and I can just think about
Speaker 2: it and ask them to show me that they're will
Speaker 2: and they show up. I show while I had my
Speaker 2: second wife, she left me because she got so afraid.
Speaker 3: So they just turn up when you call them, they
Speaker 3: turn up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just Yeah. I can go out there. I
Speaker 2: can go out there and I don't even have to
Speaker 2: look up in the sky. And I've showed a few
Speaker 2: people and I can just point up in the sky
Speaker 2: and say look right up there, and they get close
Speaker 2: to my arm and watch my here within a couple of.
Speaker 3: And when was your last experience, ed Jim?
Speaker 2: A month ago that when I was telling me about
Speaker 2: whatever that was, you know, I asked for him to
Speaker 2: show me that they were real, and two days later boom. Anyways,
Speaker 2: that's my story.
Speaker 3: Note what I have that's wonderful, Jim.
Speaker 2: There's definitely more going on, and what the gol i'ment
Speaker 2: tells us there was something visiting her from other planners.
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: Matter who they were. I mean there has been aliens
Speaker 2: probably well probably before man was here.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jim, I really appreciate you coming on and sharing
Speaker 3: that for our listeners. Yeah, okay, you enjoy the rest
Speaker 3: of your morning, Okay, and I'll be in touch.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say that, all right, take.
Speaker 3: Care YouTube, Jim. That's great. Take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: Okay, Bye bye, Jim.
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Speaker 4: and thank you.
Speaker 3: All for listening.
Speaker 4: I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe
Speaker 4: and keep watching the skies. Goodbye to