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Speaker 1: This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me

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covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book eight, a Parade of Horribles,

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chapters forty nine through fifty four. In these chapters, we

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are having to deal with what's going on with Lena. Finally,

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I am really not sure what Carl's plan is. I

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know that I understand in theory, but I just don't

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know how this works. Very interested to see how all

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of this shakes out. As usual, Welcome to spoil Me.

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Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you

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very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. Michael, if

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you're here, appreciate you. Bun Right now, it's actually looking

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like there's nobody here at all, which is pretty rare

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for me, especially with Dungeon Crawler Carl. But uh, you know,

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I'm gonna make the best of it despite being hideously abandoned, ignored,

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and unappreciated, so you know. Oh man, Okay, So this

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section we start off with Carl's Book of Boom, which

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is the volume of spells that people like donated as

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they were leaving the dungeon. And this one is from

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somebody named Mehmet Oh memit or uh. And he the

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way that he says is he's like explaining. He says,

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please forgive my cowardice in taking a deal. And I

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just really want this guy to know that Carl would

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never say that was cowardly. I think Carl wanted as

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many people to take deals as they could. I think

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he appreciates everybody who wanted to stay and push on

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and keep fighting. But I don't think there's a single

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part of him that really judges anybody for wanting to

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get the fuck out of this place, you know. And

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to a degree, I think every person that wound up

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taking a deal is a relief because now he doesn't

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feel responsible for their safety and their lives. So, mom,

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just don't blame yourself for this. But and he owned

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a bowling alley, and he had two children and a

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third on the way. My wife was alive and pregnant

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with our third child, who would have been my first son.

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I killed her when she was in the hydra, which

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is so gross. You guys, now, I don't think you know,

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I don't think it's been. It may have been. I'm

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trying to remember if we went over whether or not

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a person could be put onto the hydra even if

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they were still alive. So you know, pregnant women aren't

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allowed in the dungeon. It could be that she is

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still alive out there in the world, but it could

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also be that she was indoors, which is pretty likely. Honestly,

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when you're pregnant, you want to be comfy and you

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don't always get a say in that, granted. But so

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later on we have a whole thing with one of

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his children as well, which is just really interesting, but

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we'll get there. And he says something about, I think

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that they that my daughters might still be alive in

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the place where they're keeping the children. If by some

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chance you can't save those of us who took the deals,

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please find my Azarin yaz and tell them their father

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so fought to save them. And he's sorry he's not there,

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but he will love them until the very end of time. Ugh,

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you guys. The spell is gutter bumper casts at level nine.

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So we jump into the race and Carlos or Dona

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is trying to use these clockwork triplicates and her like,

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you know, raise the dead spell to make these minions

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of hers drive the van, and you know it doesn't

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go well. Of course it's it's not just it's not

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gonna go super well. But I will say it's like

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a lot more functional than I was sort of expecting

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it to be. They are able to take specific instructions

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much better than I would have thought based I would

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think that, you know, you'd only be able to give

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the most basic of instructions. But she can tell them to,

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you know, do things like press the brake and pull

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the right lever to the right, and they're able to

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like do these sort of detailed things. Now that said,

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there does come a point where somebody had clearly been

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told to wear their seatbelt and they did not do that.

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But I just really was pleased that it's probably, you know,

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that she's so high level, I would guess as well,

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is like if she weren't, that these instructions wouldn't be

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understood quite as well. I'm trying to decide as I

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go through this exactly how much much I want to

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spend on the race and how much I want to

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spend on the conversations, because I feel like the race

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has some really fun moments, but I also feel like

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the conversations are more like interesting in an in depth way.

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I'm also going to say this, so you guys, you

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know I mentioned every single episode so far, which I

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do stand by. For the record, I've mentioned how anxious

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this floor has made me in comparison to some of

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the other floors, and I have to revise what I

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have said now. So today is Tuesday, July twenty first.

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Two days ago, I watched the film Obsession with my

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husband and I I think that there is from here

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to for going to be the pre obsession Natasha and

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the post obsession Natasha, and the pre obsession Natasha didn't

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fully appreciate the kind of anxiety that media could inflict yet,

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So after watching that movie and coming back to this,

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it's child's play because the intensity of the anxiety of

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that film is such that I'm on day three after

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having seen it and I have still not fully shaken

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it yet. It got to me real bad. So in

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some ways it's great. It's sort of like reset my

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whole scale, you know. But on the other hand, I

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would like to be able to enjoy fictional media without

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also suffering as if it were a real panic attack.

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That would be great anyway. Okay, so there's this whole

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thing that with fucking Satan calling out to people at

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various points. And of course, as soon as I see

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that we're like kind of running ahead and we've already

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got the finish line in view, I'm instantly going, oh, yeah,

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this isn't going to end here. You're not done yet.

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It's too easy, and that is indeed how it happens.

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But we'll get there in a moment. Despite our shields,

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everyone in the cab was absolutely soaked, and we get

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a message from florin we got a backtrap, gonna try

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the loop, Unicorn doing it too. I have the denial

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of service missiles, and I'll hit the Unicorn just as

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they start the loop. If they're not going fast enough,

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they'll drop right out and we'll have to start again.

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And he says that he can't see the Lady Dominators,

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and later on because he is an estimate on where

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he thinks they are because he has like an upgraded GPS,

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But later on it turns out he was not correct

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about that. Let's see, the only surviving team from our

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own heat behind us was Team Free Love. We'd been

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going down the steep road for some time, getting attacked

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left and right, but I could see the slide and

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it had a bunch of brambles. The clockworks were going

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to time out in a minute, and I pulled the

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large camel corpse out and Dona assigns the camel to

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watch until the current clockwork times out and then take over.

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like the spell she casts is second chance. And when

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Carl goes to grab it, he underestimates his own strength,

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overestimates how solid the body is going to be, and

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he actually like digs his whole hand in to its

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torso and it seems to like gasp in response as

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if it can actually feel that, which I'll tell you what,

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I don't care for one little bit. I just him

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sticking his hand in it. I mean, gross, sure, but

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it's just like the fact that it's still got as

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much capacity as it does I find very disturbing somehow,

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you know. The next part of the track was a trick,

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but one that Prepotente had figured out, and we were

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going to skip this part completely. The trap was as

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soon as one passed through the central area where one

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had to choose a path, the ground would drop out,

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dropping everyone into the waterworks and pipes, under the park

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where all the racers had to make a long twisting

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circuit in the dark, fighting off shield demons and baby

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versions of the hedgehog culminating in a garden gnome sprinkler

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burrow boss. I'm not going to lie. I kind of

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want to see that, but what can you do? So

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let's see. The driver's side door to the truck suddenly

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opened and the clockwork olgo dropped away, leaving the driver's

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seat empty. And this is when Donut is yelling, I

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told you to put your seatbelt on, so because there's

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no driver for a moment, we reached a turn in

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the wall and the truck ran off the edge. We dropped,

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then hit the ground, crunched loudly and sliding before we

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bobbed up and righted ourselves like a boat. We'd moved

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past the hidden entrance, but we still weren't in the lead.

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We had one trick left, and I'm trying to find

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this bit here, praying this didn't count as driving. I

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reached down and grabbed the slider control at the bottom

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of the camel's seat and pressed against his chest. And

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this is when, yeah, horrible, let's see, Florence says I

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was wrong. The Lady Dominators are behind me and they're

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trading blows with the Unicorn team, and then he starts swearing,

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and we tune out for a minute because we have

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to deal with our own ship. But when we come back,

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he says, Lucia cast a spell that left a brick

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wall on the track, which pretty much stopped the new

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and the Woman Tour team. The Unicorn went right over

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it advantages of certain amounts. Apparently there were more messages,

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including one from Tran, but I waved them away and

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that I won't lie made me nervous, and we find

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out later that, like, we find out what's going on there,

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a time of sensitive kind of notification. It doesn't seem like.

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But I did have a moment of like worrying that

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maybe Karl was choosing to ignore something that was like, hey,

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just stefoy, I, but I think that maybe nota is

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coming at you right now, you know. And MANI lets

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them know that they killed their maurice on their heat

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and that he was in Orangutan and their prize was

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an engineer, which sounds great until a little bit later

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when our team accidentally kills their prize. So that's great. Oh,

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Michael in the chat says, if Peacock doesn't completely cock

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up the live action series, you might get your chance

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to see it in like five to ten years or so.

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I guess that's true. They might include some shit that's

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not in the books, or you know. I don't know

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how much involvement the author is going to have, but

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I do like the idea of the author being involved

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in being like, look, I mentioned this thing, and I

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didn't actually do it in the book, but it would

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be kind of dope if you'll decided to explore this

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on the screen since I didn't do it, you know.

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So anyway, this is what when they arrive at this

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like river and we get to see the islick spell

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in use, and they don't cast it and they sail

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right over it. The guart bumper spell wasn't quite what

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I was tirelessly seeking for explosions, but in this case

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it was perfect. I'd never met mehmet the Turkish man

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who'd given me the spell, but i'd heard of him.

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He'd focused on support spells and skills, always making sure

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the other members of his party were as buffed up

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as they could be. He'd saved countless lives during the

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pitched battle of Faction Wars. He reminded me of Imani

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in that way. People like him were the true heroes

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of this dungeon. And I just really want to say that.

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I know that sort of line can sound really corny

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and like trite, but I believe that Karl fully believes that,

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and I agree with him. And the thing about you know,

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it's sort of funny because so often the kind of

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labor that is acting as support to other people tends

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to fall to women, and therefore it is often not

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appreciated at all because it's simply just taken for granted

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that we are going to be there and we are

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going to do that. But the kind of selflessness that

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you need to have to have a class that is

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all about helping the people around you rather than keeping

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yourself alive. It's a very particular type of personality and

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a type of long term thinking that most people don't

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have the capacity for. And I find it deeply impressive

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every time I come across somebody who has the kinds

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of abilities that it's like much more about the team

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than about themselves. I take a moment to understand that

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this person is just fundamentally probably a better person than

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I am on a number of levels. So anyway, uh,

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it was all the excess non magical weapons I had

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in my inventory, hurriedly fastened together in a line of

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change chains attached to the back of the truck. The

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loose weapons dragged, bouncing and cutting and slicing and clobbering

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everything behind the truck as we rushed over the ice.

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As for the hundreds of ginger frozen and stuck in

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the river, the dragging weapons cut through them like weeds,

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which is honestly terrifying, and then donut cast some in

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yee vermin. Most of the zipper shrews would have to

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traverse the frozen path, drilling through everything, including surviving gingers.

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If the chains didn't get them, this definitely would and

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eventually we wind up getting part of that particular team

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coming at us, which did not even occur to me.

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And I should have seen coming, and they should have

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seen coming, to be honest, but evidently you know, if

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you see a being as like a person more than

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as the species that they are, I guess it's easy

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to forget that's like also still true of them. So yeah,

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this dude gets taken out in like this huge and

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the AI is like, well, you killed the guy who

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was going to be your prize and help you out.

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And I think that you guys need to learn that

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you don't need to go this hard every time, Like

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you know, all you needed to do is kill the

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boss and you've practically committed a genocide. What are you doing?

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So this is like as they see the finish line in,

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Carl is saying, maybe we did over prepare and then

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suddenly Satan says, this bores me. I turned just in

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time to see the massive loop to loop tumbling in

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our direction, having been headbutted over by Satan. Florence Tuck

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Tuck and Team Sparkle's Vine had almost been done with

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their loop when they'd been swatted, and they both tumbled

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through the air, spinning in our direction. The vine was

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on fire and covered with goo, having been hit by

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a denial of service missile. It splotched onto the ground

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just as the entire structure of the loop crashed around us.

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Florin was hanging out the side of his Tuck Tuck

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shotgun in hand, firing over and over in the direction

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of the unicorn as they tumbled and hit the ground

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like they were performing a stunt. Lucia, in her beautiful

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woman form, appeared to be sobbing and crying and laughing

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all at the same time as they spun out on

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the ground. This chaos is difficult to picture. I'm going

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to be honest, It's just so much going on. It's

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so many reactions. It's wild. The bush seemed to be floundering.

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It had the rocket accessory that gave them their incredible speed,

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but it was still smoldering and just in circles with

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Dwight screaming. I didn't see Lucienne, who I knew was

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supposed to be the one driving, which we do get

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to see Lucien shortly, and she is coming at them.

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Let me in, Let me in. I'm coming to use swine,

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Let me in, Let me fucking in. And I was

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really wondering, like, if the spell is simply to summon them,

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what would Lucien do once allowed in? Like does Lucien

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have control over herself to the degree that she could

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use this moment to try and harm Donut? Or is

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the summoning also giving Donut control over her actions? Right

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up until you know what I'm saying. I'm not positive

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about how this all goes. And then we started to

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pass under the checkered finish line. Arch get off, Donut

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shouted at the weird rodent. You can't pass the finish

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line outside your Our windshield cratered as Lucien, the driver

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for Team Sparkles, was pushed through the glass by the

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invisible barrier of the finish line. The rodent exploded against

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my face as she was pressed into my mouth, into

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my teeth, and ultimately through the back of our truck.

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And understandably, Karl has a tough time shaking this and

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just feels like he can taste Lucienne's gore in his

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mouth for a while, which I have to imagine would

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fucking haunt my dreams. There are some things that your

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brain just doesn't get over, and I feel like that

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would definitely be one of them. I think that's fair.

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Oh my god. I slid into the driver's seat and

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moved the truck over so it wasn't blocking the entrance,

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and just a minute later the Lady Dominator's passed through,

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followed by Osvaldo's team, and he sends a note to

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the UH to a Valdo and Radoslav and Josha says,

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you really think we should save him? He's the worst one.

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Doughnut was currently attempting to fish Lucianne's small, cracked racing

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helmet from the soupy gore on the floor of the truck,

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and the fact that she still wants it. I mean,

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can it be repaired? Maybe I don't even know, but

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I was sort of like, is it in pieces or

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it because it's like it's cracked at the very least.

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But and she says, if we let the unicorn live,

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we might regret it. He hates us, though maybe he'll

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be nice now that his girlfriend is dead, but probably not.

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And then that helmet has a curse. It's worthless. What

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is Michael Graves disease? Guys? I don't know this one.

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If y'all have some information, I meant to look this up,

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but I was in the middle of washing dishes when

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I listened to the audiobook the first time, and in

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the middle of folding laundry when I was listening to

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it the second time, so I did not ever look

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this up at all. And then Lucia turned her attention

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to us. I felt a chill. I was startled by

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a sudden notification. The Scavenger's daughter blinks, for she does

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not know what she sees, and suddenly Lucia is like

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right in front of him, and it is extremely unnerving.

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I am not even gonna say. Chelche is what we

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wind up calling her later, So I am going to

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go with Chelche because this is a like six syllable

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long name and I am not going to get it right,

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nor will I remember it. So Chelchy it is h

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She's here. She's new to this place, but she's here.

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She doesn't need Ceci or Gus like the residual well,

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and the primal did. She keeps telling us that she's

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kind and she will protect us, but she says the

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kindest thing, maybe letting us die. Now. I want to say,

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she doesn't need Ceci or Guss like the residual and

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the primal did. So were those both of her dogs

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and the residual would be Agatha? So was Agatha controlling there?

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I had forgotten that there was a point where the

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way that she was she being Lucia mar talked about

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one of the dogs was like I feel like she

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called the dog like she like she you know, you

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don't know which one of us you should have killed.

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But she can now do whatever she wants. And it

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hadn't occurred to me that Agatha would be somehow able

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to influence the dog or get into the like. I

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think that I didn't consider it because Lucia entered the

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dungeon with her pets, right. It's not that they like

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became pets after that. She had found in the dungeon somehow,

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So my assumption had been that, you know, they were

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just pets that were leveling up due to her leveling

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up initially, and then we begin to find out that

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there's something else that's bizarre going on here. I still

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don't really have a great idea. But she didn't need

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Cci or Gust like the residual and the primal did,

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which I'm assuming is the AI itself. I don't know

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how it needs to like, why it needs to influence

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her dogs at all. What does this even mean, she says,

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the kindest thing, maybe letting us die. We're vessels in

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the river, just as you. We are drowning together. But

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more are coming. The veins are open, all the trapped

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are coming, all seek the prize. On the twelfth floor,

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not just her kind, the real, the imagined, and the enslaved.

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It's not a game like they told me, but it's

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not a game like they told you either, not anymore.

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And she says this and then steps back and suddenly

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is a little kid again, but a different little kid.

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And it is a really weird thing because later on

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Samantha can smell Chelchy on him, So this kid was

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so close to or sharing a space with Chelchy in

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a way that comes through onto Carl from Lucia, which

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is pretty intense. And we find out that this goddess

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is like allegedly a goddess that wants to defend children,

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but the way that she wants to do this is

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by killing them, because everything is like terrible anyway, and

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you're going to suffer, and the best way to protect

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you is to ensure that you can't let you don't

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go through this. And you know, also apparently saying we

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need to sacrifice children so that I make sure there's

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no cilantro on my next or d'uv. It's just interesting

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because she sounds a lot like the Agatha attitude, you know,

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where it's just like everybody just needs to die because

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we are not to be trusted with any power or

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existence period, because we are just guaranteed to fuck shit up,

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you know, So the presence is gone. The Scavenger's daughter

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shudders in fear. I just really want to point out

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that I don't think we've ever gotten that notification before,

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and that makes me quite nervous. And then do you

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know my dad? That lady, the shining lady, she said,

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you know my father? She said, he gave you a spell.

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My name is Ozra Yazz is here too. She's crying.

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That goddess. She's talking to her now, telling her that

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you use to spell our father gave you to win

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your races. And he realizes that it's Memet who owned

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the bowling Alley, and she instantly, of course, gets distracted,

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and Florin is trying to be like, hey, I'm trying

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to collect names of everybody that is there with you,

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but she first wants to know if her father is there.

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Karl has to explain that he's safe, but he isn't there.

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And then when this little girl sees Florin, who is

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a crocodile man, which I do frequently fucking forget, he

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is so terrifying that she just takes off and sprints away,

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And when she does this, Floren is just like, I

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better chase her. Lucia comes back pretty quick after they

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get spooked. Got to keep her from killing our grimlin,

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which I'm assuming that Lucie would be the one that

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would kill their gremlin, Which why would she do that?

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Is she that short sighted? Or does he think the

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little girl would kill the gremlin before Lucia comes back.

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It sounded like he was worried about Lucia. Does she

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just want to fuck things up for everybody? Is that

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all it is? Or I don't even know? And Dona

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asks what is happening with her? It says I was

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starting to form a theory, but I didn't want to

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say it out loud. I was pretty sure Floren had

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already figured this out, as had Orrin, which terrified me.

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I Like, the only thing that I understand about this

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is that somehow all of these children are being kept

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in the same place that like NPCs are between when

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they're put into the world to play. And I don't

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understand how we like why this is so scary to Carl.

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I don't understand how this is allowed. The fact that

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Lucia has been allowed to be in the game, Like

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it's been mentioned to us that this shouldn't be and

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that there was just so much money being made off

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her that she they wound up deciding to flout the

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rules because she had such a following. But I'm wondering.

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Everything is so chaotic now, you know what I'm saying,

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And I can't help but feel like at this point,

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what Carl keeps saying is like, we need to get

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her to take a deal. Getting her out of here

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does seem like a better option. But I'm not sure that.

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I'm not sure what happens to all these kids that

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are weirdly like trapped within her in this bizarre way,

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And why would this happen to Lucia. I feel like

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I remember it being mentioned she was like fourteen, and

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you're supposed to be at least fifteen or sixteen, So

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Lucia herself is like underage, and I don't know, I

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don't know. I keep thinking about the whole thing with

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that orphanage in India and whether or not the kids

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there were involved. But the daughters that Carl just talked

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to were Turkish and had parents, so they wouldn't be

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at that facility, so it kind of throws that whole

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concept out the window. I don't know. I really don't know, Jeff,

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says Karl. Not telling us stuff is so annoying. I

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much prefer Stephen King telling us more than we should

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know to spook us. It's funny you bring that up, Jeff,

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because that is going to be something that's like a

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specific thing I'm meant to talk about in a bit,

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so I will definitely be addressing that. So anyway, the

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limited details. The next race is twenty kilometers gas ork

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screw factory, steel mill, doll workshop that is totally not

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a front for anything else, which my assumption is going

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to be like something like cocaine, that the dolls are

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made out of it or stuffed with it or something.

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All paths on this race are only wide enough for

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two at a time, and you'll be sharing this track

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with eleven other heats. Containment theft is enabled. Don't bump

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your fellow racers. And this is when we get the

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message from Tran. If this is my last message, know

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that I tried to stop them from fighting Lena. I tried.

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It is not his last message. He winds up still

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being alive later but I definitely had a moment of wondering.

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You know, we won. Zang was leading their octopus and

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he let me pass. I tried to stop her, and

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it's the same thing that happened in Beijing. She cast

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a dread and they started killing each other. It was awful.

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I think of all twenty four teams that started the

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race with us, only five survived of our heat. It

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was just my team and them. Zang needs help. He

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was sobbing. I don't know what to do. So we

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go into the interlude. Oh, Michael says, every kid who

474
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,240
stepped into the dungeon was transported to the kinder facility,

475
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:36,039
if I recall correctly. Okay, I don't know how I

476
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,799
forgot that detail, because, like often, when you guys remind

477
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,400
me of stuff, I'll be like, oh right, but this

478
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,680
isn't even really quite ringing a bell for me. So

479
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,559
there's just a lot to keep track of. So we

480
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,359
go into the interlude with Minus, and this is where

481
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,640
I want to address what Jeff mentioned here. For those

482
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,000
who are not familiar with Stephen King's writing, he loves

483
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:02,000
to do this thing where he lets you know something

484
00:33:02,079 --> 00:33:05,920
is coming by being like he felt great and it

485
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:08,759
was the last time that he would feel great for

486
00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:15,039
the next three weeks. Or he got himself an ice cream.

487
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,440
Little did he know what that ice cream contained. You know,

488
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,559
that kind of thing where it gives you a sense

489
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:26,680
of dread and there you know, there are some authors

490
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,799
who prefer that, and there are some that prefer to

491
00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:33,000
surprise you and keep everything very close to the vest

492
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:37,000
and not tell you a thing. And I don't feel

493
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:40,160
one is inherently better than the other. They're just really

494
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,920
different styles. And it's just funny Jeff mentioning that like

495
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,759
the Stephen King approach, because that is sort of what

496
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:56,200
happens with this interlude. Mett Denneman chooses to show us

497
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:59,240
what's going on with Minus so that as readers, we

498
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:02,880
are awake now that he is a threat in a

499
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,880
way that we were not aware before. And this could

500
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,119
have been played an entirely different way, where we are

501
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:15,000
caught by surprise by this sudden reveal of who Minus

502
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:19,039
is and it's all a shock that like, oh, looking back,

503
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:24,320
maybe you can piece together, but that is not how

504
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,960
he's interested in telling this story. And again, I don't

505
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,119
think the other way would have necessarily been more satisfying.

506
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,320
There are times where a surprise twist is super and

507
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:44,559
I love it. But the idea of like introducing Minus

508
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:49,119
in quotes first and making him seem like such a

509
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:52,800
total joke, somebody that we just do not need to

510
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,320
worry about, and then doubling back and being like, actually,

511
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,880
this is what's really going on, I think is great.

512
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,639
I really really like this method For this particular beat

513
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,440
in the story, Michael says, did they really have to

514
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:11,880
kill poor Linus? Couldn't they have just imprisoned him or something?

515
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:19,599
I like, look, I'm not Linus didn't seem like he

516
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:25,880
was super well. And I am not trying to say that, oh,

517
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,800
somebody who is having a mental health crisis should be murdered,

518
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,760
but I am saying that like the way that the

519
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,960
guy talks about him later and says, no offense. But

520
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,880
men like your brother are just as responsible for the

521
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,639
crawl because they're watching it and obsessed with it, and

522
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:47,960
they're enabling this whole thing and complicit in the overall system.

523
00:35:49,599 --> 00:35:53,039
It makes some sense to me that he would have

524
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:59,199
nothing but disdain for this guy. Now necessary, No, definitely

525
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,719
not necessary, But I can understand in a way why

526
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,119
they would be like just simpler to kill him. It's

527
00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,320
just a lot easier, you know. I'm not entirely sure either,

528
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,000
because like there's some information that they are able to

529
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,360
give to Minus. That's like knowledge, And I'm wondering if

530
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,199
it was somehow like info that they were able to

531
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400
remove from his brother because of his death and give

532
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,559
to Minus, But I don't know if that's anything. So

533
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,039
what it comes down to is that Minus is being

534
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:37,880
sent in as an agent to take down a target

535
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,199
and potentially if he can make it look like an

536
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,280
accident and then he might survive it. It seems pretty

537
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,360
clear to me that the target is Karl. It could

538
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,760
be a complete fake out and like somebody else and

539
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:57,920
not Karl, but I have to imagine, Like, honestly, a

540
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,519
part of me feels like, maybe you want to kill

541
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,360
Donut before you kill Carl, because she is so terrifying

542
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,880
at this point. But I don't know how he could

543
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,079
manage to kill Carl, considering that he's just a dude,

544
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:15,119
and how high level Carl is and he has like,

545
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:19,440
you know, a way to like detect traps, and I'm

546
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,199
not trying to say you can't get the jump on him,

547
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:24,280
because of course, you can, but it's like really hard.

548
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,559
And also, this dude isn't even fully corporeal, so I

549
00:37:28,599 --> 00:37:32,280
don't know how that would work either. It's not like

550
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,199
he can bring a weapon in with him. You know,

551
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:46,079
it's an odd situation. And yeah, I don't know what

552
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:47,639
I can do. Even if I get down there. The

553
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,360
best I can do is maybe kill a crawler or

554
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,519
two before this system mai rips me apart. You have

555
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:54,920
your primary target. As you will be attached to the

556
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,920
fairy Crawler, you will likely have multiple opportunities to strike.

557
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,639
If you can find a way to make it look

558
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:03,840
like an accident, perhaps you might survive. And then eventually

559
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,239
he's just like, I just don't understand how I'm supposed

560
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,039
to do this, and the captain is just like, look, dude,

561
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:14,119
we both know this is a suicide mission. But what

562
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,159
is happening with this system is so fucking dangerous that

563
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,440
it has come to a point where we have to

564
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,559
be willing to do whatever it takes to stop this.

565
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:26,559
And he is like, all right, you got me. And

566
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,400
we see him very briefly in the remaining chapters of

567
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,000
this section, but nothing has occurred. It has just been

568
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,000
you know, the groundwork has been laid for us to

569
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:39,920
be nervous and paranoid about everything that he is doing

570
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,760
and or saying. And I enjoy that. I really, you know,

571
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,119
having this bit of paranoia that I have as much

572
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:54,119
as I resent it, in a way I am sure

573
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,639
is entertaining for you all to listen to. And so

574
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,159
you know that the sacrifice that I make for you,

575
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:08,880
I hope you will appreciate it. So let's see. Oh

576
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,800
there's this uh oh, you know what I think it

577
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440
is because like sorry, when we jump into chapter fifty two,

578
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,760
he is about to suggest amount to them that's like

579
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,880
an animal and she says, old shuck something, and instantly

580
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:28,199
Donut says no, but I couldn't tell why. And I

581
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,599
think maybe that's like the dog mount and that's why

582
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,400
I don't remember having learned its name. But uh, anyway,

583
00:39:36,559 --> 00:39:42,039
so uh, they get a message from Imani that they're

584
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:45,719
at the lollipop with Zang and tryan and to come

585
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,119
when you can. They've tried talking to Lena and she

586
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,039
is just basically fucking ignoring them. Her health is in

587
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:54,920
the yellow. But remind her that her health is more

588
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,079
than everybody's put together. So even so, she's probably fine

589
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:05,119
for a long time. And let's see, of the fifty

590
00:40:05,199 --> 00:40:07,559
five hundred people who'd made it to this floor, we

591
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,280
now had fewer than three thousand left. These last few

592
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,039
races were going to be brutal, and yet that's a

593
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:27,360
grim number. We're down almost fifty percent. Like yikes. Carl

594
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,920
and Heaty decide on the upgrades and they get the

595
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,000
Bubble buddy, a heat sink in case we lost containment,

596
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,760
and the regular version of the same booster rockets that

597
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,039
spark Team Sparkles had, which when combined with the Bubble

598
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:43,039
would allow us to cover large jumps. For our Golden upgrade,

599
00:40:43,079 --> 00:40:46,679
we went with Roller Limbo, a transdimensional upgrade that would

600
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:50,639
allow us to race upside down. As long as there

601
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,760
was a gap of at least ten centimeters, we could

602
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,199
change shape and slip under any obstacle, including other vehicles,

603
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,880
which is fucking bonkers. And I'm really curious, one if

604
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,480
there are any limitations on how often they can use that,

605
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,079
And two does it feel weird to them to use

606
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:15,400
it or do they feel like nothing happened and suddenly

607
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,760
they're through and it's like the ay I just is

608
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,400
going to make them as uncomfortable as possible. I feel

609
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,880
like I just need to assume that it's going to

610
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,719
be really unpleasant. I don't know. Anyway, this is when

611
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,480
Samantha comes up and talks about Chachi and how Look.

612
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:39,199
All I'm gonna say about this is if Samantha tells you,

613
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,840
why are you sticking your dicking crazy? This is a

614
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,559
big fucking pilot crazy. If Samantha's calling somebody unbalanced, and

615
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:55,880
I mean, come on, you know, Oh my god. I

616
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,440
replayed my conversation with Lucy Amar and that girl Ozra,

617
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,719
the goddess appeared to be one of the ones who'd

618
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,760
escaped the dungeon, and she was in there with the

619
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,559
kids stuck inside of Lucia Mar's head. I swear to God,

620
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,400
Lucia Mar, how did this happen to you? Gurley? I'm

621
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,519
so sorry. I can't imagine that you deserved any of this.

622
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:25,840
This sucks. Ugh Alright, so fifty three the cul de

623
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,000
Sac used to have nine houses, but now it had

624
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:31,119
ten thanks to us losing two teams during the third heat.

625
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,519
This made me wonder just how big the roundabouts were

626
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:37,760
for teams. Likely Nah's the empty abandoned houses stood in

627
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,280
the order in which the teams had lost, meaning the

628
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,000
closest one was the now empty home of Team one.

629
00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:48,400
Fine Pig, and Carl eventually goes and gets Penelope the

630
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,000
Pig and tells her you can come live with us now,

631
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,719
and she seems delighted. And I'm just deeply uncomfortable. Even

632
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,360
though I know Penelope is just a pig, and the

633
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,280
AI emphasized that she's just a regular, real pig with

634
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,800
pig intelligence, I just have a hard time with that

635
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,320
because we've just met nothing that is what it looks like,

636
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,559
you know what I mean. It's I'm just feeling a

637
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:14,360
little bit like, not paranoid, that the AI is lying.

638
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,280
I don't think it is lying at all. I don't

639
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,639
really suspect anything of Penelope. It's more that I expect

640
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,760
something and have to remind myself she's just a pig, Natasha.

641
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,639
It's not like a real suspicion. It's just that I

642
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:34,280
automatically assign something more to her and then keep having

643
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,960
to remind myself that she's just a regular farm animal.

644
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:47,559
And it's odd. It's an odd sensation. So uh Chachi,

645
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:50,800
as Samantha calls her, isn't a well known one. She's

646
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,880
not ever sponsored as far as I can remember. This

647
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,440
information is coming from Rosetta, not like Alithia, who is

648
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,400
a similar deity. They're both goddesses of childbirth and women,

649
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,199
but Chachi is also a water and fire goddess. She's

650
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,480
associated with harvests, that sort of thing. They never do

651
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:10,880
well in the ascendancy gain because their powers are comparatively weak.

652
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,239
And Carl's like, why would the scavenger's daughter patch activate

653
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,079
when she was nearby? If she can get from wherever

654
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,920
those kids really are to here, do you think that

655
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,119
we could go the other way around? And Mordecai is like, bro,

656
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,719
I literally have no idea what the fuck is going on.

657
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:36,440
I was super helpful up to a point, but we

658
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,480
are in weird territory now. All of this is happening

659
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:49,119
for the first time, and Prepotente gives us some information

660
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:55,159
about her, the analog of a goddess in Earth culture,

661
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:00,000
she was considered benevolent, but the Aztecs also practiced human sacrifice.

662
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,400
She's the originator of an Aztec flood myth because she

663
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,719
cried for many days. It's somewhat interesting how all these

664
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
gods and goddesses are quite similar to ones from various

665
00:45:09,519 --> 00:45:13,920
Earth pantheon. And then we have Donut asking if he's

666
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,079
coming to the concert. She mentions that Karl's going to

667
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:18,559
sing with her, but he has to take a bunch

668
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,960
of potions and stuff, which makes it sound like she

669
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,920
doesn't know that she's taking potions too, but you know.

670
00:45:28,119 --> 00:45:33,320
And then when we go into chapter fifty four, The Lollipop,

671
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,920
this is where we have first we meet the flesh

672
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:43,800
mancer that Ellie and Imani have hired. Louis had a

673
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,480
cookie from a street vendor and was devouring it, getting

674
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:49,519
crumbs everywhere. The man looked down with disdain at his

675
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:54,119
flowing robes now covered with crumbs. He was sitting ramrod straight,

676
00:45:54,199 --> 00:45:57,480
and he flicked the crumbs away as Louis, oblivious, continued

677
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,920
to happily munch, while Linus stared with puppy dog at Ellie.

678
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,519
The fact that he's keeping up the charade so well

679
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,800
like very unnerving, no now knowing he's doing an amazing job.

680
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:16,159
This dude worships a god that we haven't heard of yet,

681
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:23,000
named Goulah, and I'd asked Himani and Ellie to bring

682
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:25,039
the flesh mancer because we wanted to get this guy

683
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:27,920
to talk to both cor Kundas. Ellie said the guy

684
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,679
had a stick up his ass but knew what he

685
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000
was doing, and he and Immani had been trading healing

686
00:46:32,039 --> 00:46:36,159
tips while they've been sequestered in their safe room. And

687
00:46:37,519 --> 00:46:40,880
Donut is like, we're supposed to get him into the guild.

688
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,800
He doesn't look like he can even sing, And Carl's like, well,

689
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,559
you just need to get in there and then charm

690
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:53,000
his pants off so that Porky comes out. Do we

691
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:57,039
know who Porky is? Have we heard it? Like? This

692
00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:05,079
isn't who's Porky? Don'nut? It turns out doesn't have a

693
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:12,039
whole plan and doesn't doesn't have access like Carl has

694
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,360
not told her his full plan. Is what I mean

695
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,960
by this? Oh right, Michael is saying, Porky is Corky's

696
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,400
other half, right, right right? I forgot about how this

697
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:27,360
all works. And Carl says, I don't want you to

698
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:31,239
know the plan because I don't want them to take

699
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,000
the prize away or make or do something basically so

700
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:39,239
that I can't get the full prize with all of

701
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,559
the loopholes that I want. So he just like doesn't

702
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,599
even want to say it out loud or put it

703
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:48,199
in writing or anything. And I kind of say, guys,

704
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,440
I really love this. We're supposed to be partners, and

705
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,800
you're making me nervous. The prize is we can bring

706
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,800
two people we want to the eleventh floor. Ellie thinks

707
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,760
you mean the Prime Minister lady and maybe Skatia or

708
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,599
some other showrunner. But she's afraid that killing them isn't

709
00:48:03,639 --> 00:48:05,519
going to do anything. And I don't think we should

710
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,320
hurt Prime Minister Victory. I know she's a bad guy,

711
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,000
but she's also my friend, and I'm scared about what

712
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,599
you're going to do. And can I just say that

713
00:48:15,039 --> 00:48:17,960
I know she's a bad guy, but she's also my friend.

714
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,800
It's just such a wild sentence. I'm not even mad,

715
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,000
even though I feel like I kind of should be mad,

716
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:26,480
because this is low key what has gotten our country

717
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:32,719
into the state that it is. But we are people

718
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,920
are people are complicated, They're just you know, And there

719
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,039
is something about do not just saying in those words

720
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:45,360
and not shying away from either statement and letting them

721
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,760
both live in her head that I feel a surprisingly

722
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:58,119
like mature somehow. Ah, I don't know, but I'm assuming

723
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,360
that this prize is what Carl is going to be

724
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,480
trying to use if they win, doing whatever it is

725
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,440
that they're doing to get Lena out of here, and

726
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:20,519
we'll have to see. So the cruelty of this particular

727
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:23,760
floor was getting to me. I sighed and turned to

728
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,079
the main part of the table, finally taking in the

729
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:29,400
full scene. Before we dealt with this corcund dequest, we

730
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,320
hadn't even more pressing matter. Tran and Zang sat at

731
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,000
the end of the table, flanked by Imani and Ellie.

732
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,159
Tran was in his spider wheelchair nursing a beer while

733
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,760
Zang had his head down on the table. I knew

734
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,159
Ellie had been trying to talk to nob but clearly

735
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:52,039
that hadn't worked. And this is when Tran says, hey,

736
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,360
we were just trying to explain to Zang that he's

737
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:02,159
being an idiot. Now Tran is obvious frustrated. And this

738
00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:04,159
is the thing that's so tough with these sorts of

739
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:08,360
situations is that like a person who's very involved in

740
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,119
that situation is going to have less grace to give

741
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,719
sometimes because they're sick of fucking hearing the same complaints

742
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,039
over and over again. So they can look heartless from

743
00:50:20,119 --> 00:50:24,280
the outside, when really it's just the exhaustion, you know.

744
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:30,360
So my initial reaction to Tram was like, bro, you're

745
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,119
being kind of hard on this guy, right, But then

746
00:50:33,159 --> 00:50:36,280
I started to think about what it would be like

747
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,280
to hear this over and over and over, and that

748
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,480
of course you're just going to get impatient about it.

749
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:52,639
What it comes down to is that Tran feels, yes,

750
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:58,440
Lena is cruel in her way, I'm afraid to do

751
00:50:58,519 --> 00:51:03,960
some really brutal stuff, but it is not exactly that

752
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:09,079
she enjoys doing it or that she is killing people

753
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,360
just for the sake of it. It's when she's pushed

754
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,960
to a point where she hasn't got another option, she

755
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:26,400
is still actually pretty restrained considering And you know, there's

756
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,280
this situation that gets mentioned here. While Tran is like, look,

757
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,199
it's not your fault or Nas. They attacked her. They

758
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:39,199
attacked us because Nas gone completely psycho, which doesn't give

759
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,480
me a good idea what exactly Naw did that caused

760
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:45,920
them to attack I am really curious what the like

761
00:51:46,199 --> 00:51:49,239
the way he says this sounds as if what he's

762
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:54,400
saying is they attacked us because they've seen the way

763
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,119
that Lena has been behaving otherwise and decided that she

764
00:51:57,199 --> 00:52:03,960
really needs to go. I will say that for myself,

765
00:52:05,159 --> 00:52:09,000
anybody who has seemingly not as capable of and attempts

766
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:14,159
to take her out is either the bravest person or

767
00:52:14,519 --> 00:52:22,360
extremely foolhardy, and I tend towards the latter. But yeah,

768
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,440
and tran or Zang says, you know, it was horrible.

769
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,199
I can't do that again. I can't do another race

770
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,920
with her. And it turns out what he is considering

771
00:52:33,199 --> 00:52:37,840
is killing their mount when her back is turned, so

772
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,599
that they are killed because they're removed from the race.

773
00:52:42,679 --> 00:52:45,559
He's essentially willing to do like a murder suicide here,

774
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,159
and Carl points out that's not even gonna work. You

775
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,079
just lose containment and she's probably strong enough to get

776
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:57,400
to the finish line with no mount, So you're just

777
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,360
gonna put yourself in the position where you die. And

778
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,840
she's still alive, and he's like, what else can I do.

779
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,800
He's in a place where it's almost like he values

780
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,559
the fact that he would have made it an effort

781
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,000
over the efficacy of that effort, which brings you into

782
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:17,880
territory that's very performative and I just need you to

783
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,360
watch out for that, dude, because if you're not approaching

784
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,559
this from the place of like I need to do

785
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:27,960
what I can do, that's going to succeed. You're just

786
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,760
trying to make yourself feel better about something, and that's

787
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:37,440
not helpful to anybody. And Zang says she's killing people.

788
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,280
She stopped talking to me. She got poisoned, and it's

789
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,239
slowly draining her health but not going down fast enough.

790
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,559
She's not what she used to be. I wish I

791
00:53:46,599 --> 00:53:55,039
had died before. I wasn't ashamed, and now I am.

792
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,440
Zeg wiped his eyes. She ripped june zaie out out

793
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,480
of his face after he died, and then she ripped

794
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:02,119
her own eye out to install it. Who does that?

795
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:04,719
It was then that I should have known she was gone.

796
00:54:05,159 --> 00:54:07,280
I used to think I could, you know, keep her

797
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,760
from going too crazy. June didn't want us telling people

798
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,840
what had happened on the eighth floor in Beijing. She apologized.

799
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,119
She's always been so practical, so matter of fact. She

800
00:54:18,199 --> 00:54:20,519
wasn't like the others at the warehouse. She never joked,

801
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:22,639
never laughed, but she would smile at a brother, and

802
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,719
she would smile at me sometimes too. She used to

803
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,159
be so pretty, and I don't mean pretty in the face,

804
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,079
but she was that too. I mean I used to

805
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:33,960
feel so safe and happy when I looked at her.

806
00:54:34,519 --> 00:54:36,519
She was my best friend's sister, and I thought maybe

807
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,079
I could get her to like me and we could

808
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,440
get married and I would have my best friend and her,

809
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:43,800
And now I have nothing. We have to kill her.

810
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,280
What other choice do we haven't She's going to keep

811
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,760
hurting everyone, which is when Tran is like, she's not

812
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,679
killing for fun. She's just kind of lost her humanity,

813
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,079
but she's not going out of her way to hurt people.

814
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:02,199
And this is when Carl says we need that, we

815
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,960
need people like her. She's so strong, and Donut says

816
00:55:07,039 --> 00:55:12,719
she's not a weapon, Carl, She's a person. I mean,

817
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,159
it's not even that that her being a weapon. It's

818
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:23,199
more like everybody has their role to play, and sometimes

819
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:27,440
people who are able to set aside or don't have

820
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:29,840
to begin with the emotions that get in the way

821
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:36,039
of doing difficult and necessary shit are critical. So I

822
00:55:36,119 --> 00:55:40,840
understand Donuts taking issue with him phrasing this this way,

823
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:47,000
but I also agree with Carl that, like, you know,

824
00:55:47,159 --> 00:55:53,360
somebody who is it can somebody like this could cut

825
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,719
both ways, is the problem. And I still am worried

826
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,559
about the way that she blames Donut and Carl for

827
00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:04,039
her brother's death. I am beginning to think that she's

828
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,199
not actually going to make a move on them, because

829
00:56:06,199 --> 00:56:08,119
she hasn't yet. But it could be that it just

830
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:16,119
hasn't been she hasn't gotten an opportunity. And Ellie says,

831
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:18,440
I was just in there with her, and I gotta say,

832
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,880
she's gone completely wack adoodle. And by this point does

833
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,079
it even matter? Every race from now on will have

834
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:31,000
her but versus a bunch of others. We had three

835
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:33,800
hours until the next heat. We had so much to do.

836
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,960
We were going to sing in a few minutes in

837
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,920
the warm age thing and then there it was. Of

838
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,679
course I had an idea, but we'd have to move fast.

839
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:50,440
Lena didn't worship a deity. She couldn't with her changbe race. Lena,

840
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,199
despite what Donut said, was a weapon that could be

841
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,599
especially effective if she was pointed in the correct direction.

842
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:05,159
I sent momultiple messages, including one to body body, did

843
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:07,360
you commit to a race yet? For this next heat?

844
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,679
Zang's gonna need a jockey Lena is leaving the dungeon.

845
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:19,239
So yeah, like I said, I don't fully know how

846
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,280
all this is going to work out. I know that

847
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,519
she has this health thing because she targeted some people

848
00:57:29,559 --> 00:57:32,639
who she wasn't able to kill with the Ring of

849
00:57:32,639 --> 00:57:39,760
Divine Suffering. And I don't think that they're on the

850
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,280
eleventh floor, are they? So that isn't like an that's

851
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,360
not part of this. I don't think it's just about

852
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,639
getting But the way Carlo is saying pointing her in

853
00:57:48,679 --> 00:57:50,800
the right direction, like would she go up against the

854
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,840
war mages? Are they the ones that she had targeted

855
00:57:54,840 --> 00:58:00,000
that it wound up escaping? They're not right, she target

856
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:07,400
at actual like outworlders that were in the game. Michael says,

857
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:12,840
they're getting tortured on the eighteenth floor. Okay, yeah, I

858
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,280
feel like I don't fully understand, and that's fine. I'm

859
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,000
just sort of letting it wash over me. I don't

860
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:23,360
really the mo has tended to be the reader doesn't

861
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,199
get the full story until it's happening, so I'm looking

862
00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:29,880
forward to it. But yeah, I don't know where we're

863
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,119
going yet. So all right, I have to wrap this up.

864
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:35,039
But thank you guys again for hanging out with me

865
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,679
appreciates you so much. Sorry about the difficulties with the recording.

866
00:58:39,239 --> 00:58:42,960
That was something, But if you're listening to this after

867
00:58:43,039 --> 00:58:45,480
the fact, you won't notice the thing because I'm that good.

868
00:58:46,880 --> 00:59:19,960
Until next time, to lue, motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled

869
00:59:20,039 --> 00:59:21,119
network podcast.

