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Speaker 1: I made susion pace sunny sound on Ahead Vision. It's nice.

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Hello everybody, welcome back to f C O L. It's Friday.

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We're back and John is in studio. And I bet

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you one hundred dollars that Lynette is doing better right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean we might want to you know, game sort

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of game that out both ways.

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Speaker 1: Should we call her?

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Speaker 2: It could be something maybe we might want to try.

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Speaker 1: We should just call Let's just call her and see

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what happens. All right, okay, let's put her on.

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Speaker 2: If you hear an edit in the show, you'll know

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what happened.

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Speaker 1: It's springing. Its springing. Oh, I bet she's sleeping. Hello, Ah,

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you're on speaker on the microphone.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was that sounded so breft. She's

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faking it.

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Speaker 1: She sounds so sad.

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Speaker 2: She did that on purpose.

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Speaker 1: We were just calling to see how you're feeling. For

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the audience is probably really worried. I'm okay, I was

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just sleeping.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're not supposed to do that.

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Speaker 1: Wake up.

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Speaker 2: Somebody's supposed to be walking you around. I know.

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Speaker 1: Now. My sister Monkey's calling me like every hour just

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to make sure. And you guys are like on the

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half hour.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're here for.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well I kind of said what happened, but

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not like too many details. I just told him about

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all the drinking you were doing. Other than that, did you.

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Speaker 2: Really fall off a balcony?

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Speaker 1: What did time say? John said, did you really fall

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off a balcony? No? She okay, So okay, Lynnette, go

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back to sleep. I just wanted you to know where

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we got this. Okay, thank you, John, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Oh you owe me big, You owe me,

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big guy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go to sleep better.

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Speaker 2: Just yelled into the microphone for our listeners.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay, all right, so we did that.

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Speaker 2: We did that. Can I also point out one other thing?

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Speaker 1: We start calling people off MyD that'd be good. Just

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drunk dialing, Julie call like Randos.

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Speaker 2: That'd be a good show.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell them they're on the show.

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Speaker 2: Just drunk dial even though we're relatively I've had two coffees.

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Well if we you know, if we're really something occurred

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to me while you were talking to Lynette. Do you

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realize that we drove from our house about nine miles

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to the studio when we could have we have a

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road caster at home. We have two microphones. You and

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I drove to a studio to record something we could

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have recorded at our house. Oh my god, God was

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just like I sort of had that little slow guy

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realization after we've already recorded one show. I'm like, wow,

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we drove to studio city.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Well a road caster that works better?

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Speaker 2: Yep. But you know what, you know whatether microphone Isn't

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this good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Their microphone sucks.

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Speaker 2: If we get one more good mic we never need

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to drive it.

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Speaker 1: That is true. And we could have run the sound

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through the you could have fixed the sound. But whatever,

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we're here. Let's just enjoy.

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Speaker 2: But we do. Can we talk about who might be

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coming into the studio tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know. That might be a secret. Okay,

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I don't think it's our story to tell, but that

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if this is the Friday show, it'll already be posted.

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But I don't know when they're posting the episode. Okay,

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listen Kaylin's podcast with his dad called Just Foolin about

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a little plug for very good podcast. Yes, they have

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a special guest that is recording tomorrow. Okay, funny, really quick,

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funny story. So I'm I'm going to be taking Xander

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to SDSU for a tour next week. So we we

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we were like, okay, we got to take you to

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see the school. So we figured out a day which

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is there's a day off, which is next Monday is

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President's Day. Okay. So had that planned, went through hotels

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dot com. I recently, I booked the hotel room, everything

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was set, paid for it, the works, okay. So then

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a few days ago or whatever, before the weekend, I

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was like, oh my god. Okay, so taking Xander to SDSU,

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I gotta figure out with Kaylin because they record and

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Monday because that's the day of the tour, so or

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tour if it's a tournament. I'm just kidding people. People

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make fun I say tournament like it's a tour and

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you go around and you compete in something like a tour. Anyway,

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So then I was like, oh, So then Caylin was like, no,

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we have this special guest who's coming in on Tuesday

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to record at noon. Now I teach Tuesday night, and

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by the way, I have new classes registering, so if

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you want to take my writing class, my memoir writing class,

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it starts at the end of February. It starts in

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like two weeks from the time you're hearing this, So

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please go to Facebook, hit me up, or go to

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my website and like book. The class Tuesdays are for

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new people. Sorry shameless promotion. We'd love to have you

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in the class. A lot of fcol people are loving it,

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so don't be excluded anyway. I'm like, I got to

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teach Tuesday night, so can't come in after his special guest.

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So then I'm starting to freak out. Then Lynette, then

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we couldn't do Sunday. It was the super Bowl and

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we're at Patrick's house and he's having a super Bowl party,

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so we're like, he's going to be getting ready. So

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to Xander, maybe we shouldn't go for the Monday tour

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because we're gonna have to leave Sunday. We're going to

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a super Bowl party. Then we're gonna have then at

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like seven o'clock at night, I'm gonna have to like

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we're gonna have to leave and drive to San Diego.

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we can go, and there's nothing. Because he's soon going

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to be having tech rehearsals for his play. I'm like,

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we're not going to be able to go until like

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well into April. And then all of a sudden, I

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don't know how it occurred to me. I was looking

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at the rehearsal and I'm like, why are they having

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rehearsal at night on the day off on Monday's a holiday?

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Speaker 2: You must feel so stupid.

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Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I could have had a V eight.

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It was such a stupid moment. And then I had

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to rebook. I was like, never mind, We're fine, And

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how did you tell that story again? On Patreon?

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be great. You can you can tune back

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in to hear that one again, and we're going to

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animate it. We're gonna put something. We're actually going to

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hire some very expensive animators to get put that one,

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put that one on its feet, and maybe try to

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sell it to Netflix. I smell a series, But how

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did that relate to uh Kaylan's secret guest.

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Speaker 1: That was what means because that was the whole reason

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I not use the studio. It was a big deal.

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Speaker 2: I'd be giving anything away if I disclosed that I

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put on the freezer. I put Tiger Tiger blood chilling

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behind the energy drinks.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure that doesn't anything any surprise you're.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, watch Klan show. It's very good.

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Speaker 1: We had something else to talk about before then. We

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also want to get to questions. Yeah, oh, do you

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just I don't think anybody it's I mean, I'm just

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going to repeat what everybody thinks. It's just it's bizarre.

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It doesn't track. Savannah Guthrie is not a political figure,

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so I mean, nobody's kidnapping to terrorize her. I mean,

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that Ashley Banfield who used to be on MSNBC twenty

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years ago, we don't like her. I mean, she's I mean,

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she's pretty thirsty. I gather I've never seen I haven't

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seen her since she left Cable TV, but from what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was spreading a lot of like false

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace built her life on that. But it is

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interesting because again I certainly haven't been into the minutia

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of it, but I'm aware that Ashley Banfield was one

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of the ones that said, hey, you know, they're the

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local sheriffs are investigating Savannah's sister and brother in law.

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not true. But then I do see that yesterday they

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so bizarre. It's I mean, when if we ever find out,

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in law, but the sister and brother saying or she

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these kidnapping claims could be a hoax. So I found

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this article this morning basically seeming like they aren't thinking

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it's a kidnapping. But if it's not a kidnapping, nothing

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's not a kidnapping with I mean, what

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does that I only saw that headline. Let me disqualify myself.

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not that long this article. It says former FBI Supervisory

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special Agent James Gagliano told CNN's Pamela Brown that he's

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not convinced the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie is attributable to

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a traditional kidnapping. Guthrie the eighty four year old mother

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of Today's show host Savannah Okay, we already know all that.

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sure about the theory. Brown says, the first plea from

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the Guthrie family, it stressed the urgency of releasing her,

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their eighty four year old mother. As we know, she

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has a series of health issues. She desperately needs her medications.

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like date thirteen. Yeah, we're now in day nine of

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her presumably not having those meds. There was no mention

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of that in this new video. What did you make

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of that? So that was the interviewer Pamela Brown. So

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an octogenarian, a woman who's eighty four years old. She

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obviously has heart conditions, its medications, and pam I'll give

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you a stat here. Do you know the percentage of

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kidnappings that occur of eighty year olds? It's like infinitesimal,

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this case, again is so baffling and confounding. So Brown says,

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are you convinced it's a kidnapping? And he says, am,

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like they took her. No, and I'll give you this. Yeah,

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of ways to conduct kidnappings. Right. There's a new craze

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of this. And again we saw this south of the

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border when I was stationed there called virtual kidnappings, where

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they do everything they can to make you believe that

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they have your loved one in their quote unquote possession

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when they don't, and they're acting quickly. They're utilizing AI

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was dropped off at home supposedly at ten o'clock until

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the family notified law enforcement sometime around noon the next day.

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And you see the flurry of law enforcement efforts back

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and forth. I don't think there's anything to be taken

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from that. People are reading too much into it. That's

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the normal progression of an investigation where one lead might

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trick off another lead and you move from one thing

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to the other. And lastly, two things are going to

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solve this case. One is good detective work, that's flat footwork,

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knocking on doors, talking to people, canvassing, interviewing people. And

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the second piece of this, the biggest one, is the

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digital imagery, the digital exhaust that investigators are going through

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right now, from the kidnappers, kidnappers in quotes, ransom note,

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from the door ring bell that was removed, but they

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might still be able to harvest some forensic evidence there.

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Things like that are probably going to solve the case.

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And we all hope and pray it's going to have

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good conclusion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe, I mean keep in mind that you always,

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unfortunately in the in the Internet age, so many people

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will come up with a hot take like that just

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because they want some exposure. I mean that seems I

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don't know, Yes, it's weird that an eighty year old

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woman was kidnapped, but I mean, is he saying that

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what he what he seems to be saying is is

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that she left of her own accord and somebody jumped

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in to exploit that.

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Speaker 1: And you don't think he's saying like maybe just somebody

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killed her.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I mean I take from

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that is if somebody somebody goes missing suddenly somebody goes

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in to exploit it, as if they kidnapped him when

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they don't have them. But I mean his theory is

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what she either wandered away, maybe she went to a murder,

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she wrote convention, something that the olds like to do.

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it seems like he wanted to inject himself in that

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because there's blood. There's bloo, they found blood. I mean,

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just wandering off absent mindedly usually doesn't leave a blood trail.

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So I think that guy just wants his moment in

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the sun. But people aren't really, I mean, all of

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these things he usually the first thing you do is

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who'd ad a motive? Who's benefiting from this? Which does

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make it pretty It narrows your list down, I mean,

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it narrows it to one. Hoda Colbda's back on the air.

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I mean she's back in the she's issuing her you know,

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her heartfelt condolences, and she's taken over Savannah's hosting duties.

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I mean, I think we need to look at.

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Speaker 1: Hodas what if what if that there was something there? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I mean there if there's something there, I mean, come on, crazy,

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I like coda for this, and I'm going to be

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the first to put my marker out there. So this

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is Friday. I've probably been confirmed as correct, So celebrate me.

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Give me my flowers as a detective right now. But

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it's Hoda and this is Monday that we're recording this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, NBC is date Line is ABC? There's forty

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eight hours night Line?

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Speaker 2: Oh Nightline is? I'm sorry, Nightline was the So ABC is?

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I forget what their investigative show is.

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Speaker 1: They all there's forty eight hour mysteries, and there's that's ABC. Yeah,

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there's Dateline and then there's twenty twenty. ABC is twenty twenty. Okay,

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so is what's her name? Hoda? Hoda gonna gonna narrate

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her own twenty.

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Speaker 2: Twenty without a doubt. I mean, it's just it is.

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Speaker 1: And the end it's her. Yeah, and it's still going

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to be like, oh, I'll still want to I still want.

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Speaker 2: To do She pre tapes. I mean, she definitely pretapes

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knowing this is coming. But this is just a gold

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mine for Hoda and I like her for this.

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Speaker 1: I think we crack the case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah we do good work.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, sho't we take questions? Let me let's

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talk about hero Bread. Okay, you love it. You're obsessed

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with hero Bread. Listen, we all are in our house.

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I'll tell you who's like a big fan is Xander.

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Xander loves bread.

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Speaker 2: He does.

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Speaker 1: He likes fluffybread, and he has said that he cannot

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tell the difference between the other bread that has all

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the carbs in it and this bread that has zero

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to five grams of net carbs and high fiber. He

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says the texture is the same. It's delicious. He loves it.

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They make croissants, they do English muffins. I really feel

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Speaker 2: Already ordered, yes, Yes, spoiler alert. It's got a kickstand.

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Speaker 1: You're using it right now.

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Speaker 2: I am there you go. That's why I seem so relaxed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, get us the question, Get get us some questions. Yeah,

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for you, get you some questions.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's are questions. Okay, hold on going to it.

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Just quick preface here. At the last minute, as we

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were driving over here, we we realized that they were

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dragging me on as a guest. And everybody's heard plenty

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from me. So I put out a post asking if

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people had questions, and we did get some questions. So

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let's let's take a peek. Desiree Richards wants to know

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about the search for a Perfect pooch that is our

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Tuesday show. And we already addressed that, so I hope

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you feel satisfied. Let's see, here's a quick one. I

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live outside Chicago, and I went to high school with

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Alex Eastburg. How do you know him? Alex Eastburg was

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my executive at Spike TV, no longer a network. But

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I did a show called Carlot.

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Speaker 1: Cow Boy and that was a good one.

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Speaker 2: That was a good one. It was I was the

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third show runner.

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Speaker 1: What was that guy's name, Tom's Tom was Stuker.

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Speaker 2: Stuker is a He's also known as the most frequent

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flyer in the world. He's flown God, He's up to

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like twenty five million miles. Really great guy. He also

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is from Chicago, but his claim to fame is he

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is a Carlot turnaround guy. There was a show. It

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was called Carlot Cowboy and then it got changed to

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Carlot Rescue to match with bar Rescue. But in any case,

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Alex was the first show runner and then got hired

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by the network. In the middle of the show, they

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hired another show runner. It didn't work, and so I

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was known as the fixer. I came in as the

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third show runner and I finally got the show delivered

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to Spike. It was fun and that was many years ago.

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But Alex was my executive. He's a great guy. And

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he now lives in Ecuador. So TV does weird things

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to a lot of people. It is a tough place

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to survive, and Alex finally just said, you know, what

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the hell with this, I'm moving with my I believe

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he married a woman from Australia and they're living very

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happily and in Ecuador. Now something to think about something

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to think about. Next question, the next question. Let's take

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a peek. Why do you let Stephanie deal with the

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buy nothing people? I it's like, you know, I can't

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control that's it. Kind of. It's one of those things

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where it kind of dissipates her rage somewhat, because she'll

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often come to me and show me ridiculous by nothing

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sort of. I don't know the community. They're like flash

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sales or they've got all these little conventions, and she'll

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show me somebody who is like offering their toenails or something.

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Speaker 1: There's the one neighbor that I always have to bring

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you took. I took a screenshot of it. I should

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put it up in the for crying out. I should

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put it in the group so you guys can see it.

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But I have to I have to figure out how

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to cross out the name so you don't see his name.

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But I mean he will offer I feel like I

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can't remember exactly, but I feel like he was offering

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some cleaning supplies that had like half an inch on

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the bottom of each one, oh, which ridiculously like found

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you know outside.

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Speaker 2: I do remember at one point you did show me

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that he offered something like seven stray nails.

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Speaker 1: Yes nails. Yes, they weren't even.

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Speaker 2: They didn't match. There were strange there were things.

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Speaker 1: He found on the ground on a walk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's you know, if if, if that's

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where she wants to, you know, dissipate her dismay with humanity.

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That's that's fine. There life.

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Speaker 1: But I did get like a brand new whole Men's

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care shaving thing for Xander the other day. That was

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all brand new. He loved it.

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Speaker 2: Humbug. Do you like the electric car?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I actually like it very much. I think Steph likes

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it very much. We have an ongoing Volkswagen America. If

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you're listening to this. We have a problem with our

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information console. It blacks out, and apparently that is that

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problem is epidemic with new ID fours and going back

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four years, and they've done a recall for every year,

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but not ours. So we are in month five of

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trying to get our information console. Apparently they need a

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module replaced, and.

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Speaker 1: We took it in.

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Speaker 2: We took it in. We waited three months for the

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module because they're sending modules to everyone because every module

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needs a replacement. But they sent us we finally got

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our time, came up in the line for the replacement module,

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took it into Volkswagen, helpin Volkswagen, and they replaced it,

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only to find that the replacement module was faulty. So

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they called us and said, we're giving you your car back,

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but the replacement module. So you're back on the list.

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So we have just been waiting and waiting. Everything else

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about the car is fantastic, but this is a real

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it's a real pain, but we will work through it.

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It's first world problems. Yeah, let's see when's the new

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dog coming to join your family? Also Tuesday and also

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in Tuesday show, have you and Steph talked about any

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big plans for the empty nest phase? No, because it

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just feels like getting the twins through college is like

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Mount everest Or. I mean, we can't even see the

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other side of the mountains. It's not that far away.

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But mentally speaking, also the way I think about it,

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I didn't want to speak for Steph, but in this

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economy and with AI and with everything, I mean, you've

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got the kids, they get through college and then they

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use home as a staging area for a couple of

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years too, and you know, I needed that. I moved home.

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A couple of years out of college. I moved back

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home and I was writing spec scripts for comedy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so right after college, where did you go?

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Speaker 2: Right after college? I went to Connecticut, then New York.

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Back to Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: How long were you in New York?

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Speaker 2: Briefly? Very briefly, because my big plan was I wanted

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to move. My big plan I wanted to go to Hollywood,

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and you know, I majored in writing for TV and film.

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But I had this you know, very true Syracuse. Yeah,

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blah blah, and I thought that I would. I thought

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that i'd make some money, I'd go to New York.

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I'd get a job in advertising. I went out of

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my way. I put together you know, your spec book

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and all of these things. I even went, you know,

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I took a job in Connecticut, and then I went

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to the New School in New York and took extra

470
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copywriting classes to get my book really in shape. And

471
00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:55,720
I started to make my rounds in New York, meeting

472
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with ad agencies.

473
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: But so you where were you staying? You got a

474
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,759
bunch of rooms, right.

475
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at that point, I was just staying

476
00:26:02,599 --> 00:26:06,480
on people's couches, but I was My big plan was,

477
00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:10,240
you know, I'm going to get a job. But in

478
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,759
nineteen eighty six there was a huge consolidation of advertising

479
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,400
all of these a big firm called Sachi and Sachi

480
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,839
bought up half of the ad firms and the other

481
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,799
half of the ad firms. Out of fear of SACI

482
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,400
and Sachi merged together. So where there had been about,

483
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,960
you know, nineteen fairly sizable ad agencies in New York

484
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,440
on Madison Avenue, suddenly there were four. And you had

485
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,799
people who had two or three years copyrighting experience taking

486
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,359
those entry level junior copyrighting jobs. So, long story short,

487
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,559
I got offered two jobs, one at Alli and Gargano,

488
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:51,119
and but they offered me eleven thousand, five hundred a year,

489
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which even back in you know, nineteen eighty six, you

490
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,599
couldn't live in New York City on eleven thousand, five

491
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hundred a year. I had friends that were working for

492
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,920
eighteen thousand a year. But I was because there were

493
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,480
so many more copywriters than there were jobs. It was

494
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,359
a hirer's market, and I just was like, this ain't

495
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,519
gonna work. So I went, Okay, we're going to skip

496
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,720
the New York Advertising So but I now, if I'm

497
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,759
going to go to if I'm going to go to California,

498
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:26,079
and I am going to you know, get into screenwriting faster.

499
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,920
I need to write spec scripts. You can't go to

500
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,000
California without your sample scripts. And so I went home.

501
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:36,079
I took temp jobs. I moved in with my parents,

502
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,839
and I started writing spec scripts. I would, you know,

503
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:42,240
work a temp job by day, and then I'd sit

504
00:27:42,319 --> 00:27:44,559
up until two in the morning writing spec scripts. And

505
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,559
you know, my mom was I think my mom kind

506
00:27:47,559 --> 00:27:50,480
of speaking of empty nest. My mom kind of enjoyed

507
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:54,480
having me back home. My dad was like, this wasn't

508
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,920
part of the bargain. My dad was not happy to

509
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,799
have me back home.

510
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,519
Speaker 1: But at this point, your sister was like married, Oh she.

511
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: Wasn't married yet, but she was, she was engaged, and

512
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,000
she was living much too again much in my dad's consternation.

513
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,079
She was living in sin with her future husband. Anyhow,

514
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,720
So yeah, I spent eighteen months at home writing three

515
00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:22,240
spec scripts, saving money. Uh, and then I finally, you know,

516
00:28:22,319 --> 00:28:24,119
I finally my big thing was you know, out the

517
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,359
door by twenty four because I suddenly, you know, I

518
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,559
graduated at twenty two, and I, you know, I thought

519
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:34,000
I was going to be New York until maybe twenty five,

520
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,720
and suddenly I'm back home living with my parents, which

521
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:40,480
was demoralizing and anyhow, So that was my And then

522
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,440
I moved out here, and you know, I went through

523
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,039
a couple of staffing seasons and it was an uphill battle.

524
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:50,319
But and I ended up in reality TV. Don't let

525
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:54,799
your kids and go into reality TV people, that's scary anyhow,

526
00:28:54,839 --> 00:28:57,759
But that was my path. But bringing it back to

527
00:28:57,799 --> 00:29:00,359
our kids, I mean, I think that you know, our

528
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,720
kids are probably going to need a you know, a

529
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,319
sort of a I mean, my I'm because I needed that.

530
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200
I'm sort of wired to go. I get how, you know,

531
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,079
going out and suddenly coming out of college into an

532
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,359
uncertain economic world and suddenly having to pay all of

533
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,319
you your own rent, your insurance. It's a as long

534
00:29:24,359 --> 00:29:27,160
as you keep making steady strides, I'm all for, you know,

535
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,720
give them a safe place to get their ducks in

536
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:31,920
a low in a row. So all of that is

537
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:35,640
five minutes of monologue saying I don't know that even

538
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480
the empty nests still be here in four years.

539
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: Well when Xander leaves, LB will be back.

540
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've said that to Sadie two, and.

541
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Sadie will be home.

542
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

543
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,079
Speaker 1: So we're not looking at being empty nesters anytime.

544
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:49,319
Speaker 2: Oh no, not at all.

545
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: But we're both fine with it.

546
00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're both fine with it.

547
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,799
Speaker 1: I mean we like our house to have a little bustle.

548
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean we like Yeah, we do. It's

549
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,640
I mean, I'm weird. I mean we're lucky because I mean,

550
00:30:01,079 --> 00:30:03,720
our kids are a much better kid than I was,

551
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,000
or all three of them are much better kids than

552
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,000
I was. I was a paint in the butt. But

553
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,960
I mean, I like our kids being around. I enjoy

554
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,039
get I enjoy having our kids in the house. I

555
00:30:14,119 --> 00:30:18,599
enjoy our kids company. So I you know, I don't

556
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,039
mind them being there too long. I just, you know,

557
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,640
at a certain point, I'm sure we will be empty

558
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,319
nesters and then we'll have to talk to each other.

559
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:32,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll probably take do some trips or something. I

560
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,599
don't know, although we could do that now.

561
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: No cruises.

562
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,279
Speaker 1: I know you won't let us go on a cruise.

563
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:42,839
Speaker 2: Cruises or the devils. I'll take a river cruise. It's

564
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,240
just you know, I don't want to go I don't

565
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,880
want to go in the fun ship in the Caribbean.

566
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,839
I'd rather jump off. And I went to Club Med

567
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,880
once and I was like, what am I doing here?

568
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:56,759
And you know, they were trying to get everybody into

569
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,640
line dances. I'm like, I'm not a line dancer.

570
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm not like, would you go with? Was it like

571
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:02,880
a spring break thing?

572
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: No? I actually I had two friends when I graduated

573
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,920
from Syracuse were set to go with me. We made

574
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,319
plans to go to kan Kun and we're like, all right,

575
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:19,559
it'll be fun. And both of my friends got job

576
00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:23,559
offers and they and so I was, you know, I

577
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,680
was sitting there and I didn't have a job offer.

578
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,559
I hadn't even gone to New York at that point

579
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,720
to even try. And so they left and I'm like,

580
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:34,000
for some reason, I was like, I'll show them. I'll

581
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,240
go on my own. So I went down to Club

582
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:41,759
Med on my own, which was I mean, it was interesting,

583
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:43,960
it was it was interesting.

584
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,799
Speaker 1: Did you have any hookups?

585
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,599
Speaker 2: I didn't. The only one I was interested in was

586
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,039
this very you know, it was somebody who's like me.

587
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:54,799
It was like, I didn't come here to hook up

588
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:57,279
and she was the only But there were there were

589
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:04,200
some colorful, a little you know, precocious people are like, hey,

590
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,640
you want to come inspect my room?

591
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:06,839
Speaker 1: Oh really?

592
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,039
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think so. You scare me.

593
00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:13,079
You're too tan and you look like you're about thirty three,

594
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,799
and I'm just twenty one at that point, twenty two,

595
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,920
so I'm like, I'll pass. So it was it was interesting.

596
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,759
It was nice to sat on the beach. I took

597
00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:26,079
some you know, I tried to drive to chichen Itza,

598
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,599
but the car I rented started misfiring. I'm like, I'm

599
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:35,359
going to be on the road halfway across the Yucatan Peninsula.

600
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,799
I'm going to be, you know, a single gringo and

601
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,359
a broken down car. I'm like, I don't see that

602
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,799
scenario being a good one. So instead of driving to

603
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:44,680
chichen Itza, I pulled a U turn and I took

604
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,359
the car back. But I did fly to Kozamel to

605
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,480
go scuba diving because I had just gotten I'd gotten

606
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,039
certified in Syracuse in a frozen lake in Syracuse. I'd

607
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:01,480
never really been scuba diving other than in a swimming

608
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,599
pool and a very murky lake that was thirty four degrees.

609
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,599
So I go to Kosamel and I get on a dive,

610
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:12,480
but they down there back in those days, they didn't

611
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,519
take into account sort of different levels of scuba diver.

612
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,599
I was a green. This was going to be my

613
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,720
first open water dive. And back then, the war in

614
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:26,319
Nicaragua was still going, and a couple of combat photographers

615
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:29,599
from Nicaragua it also come up and they were experienced

616
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,680
divers and they so they were on our same dive trip.

617
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,119
And so these guys are just like hell bent and

618
00:33:37,119 --> 00:33:39,680
they're really experienced. So we all go together and we

619
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:42,960
go on the Palagar reef and these guys decide suddenly

620
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,680
spontaneously on the boat, not only are we going to

621
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,960
dive the reef, We're going to cave dive. Oh no, now,

622
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:53,519
cave diving. I mean, cave diving is to scuba diving

623
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,599
what base jumping is to skydiving. I mean, it's something

624
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,200
that you should only do. You know, have a thousand

625
00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:06,559
hours of scuba diving, and you know it's the the

626
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,400
fatality and danger is exponentially higher than open water. And

627
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:15,519
we ended up diving into caves and my first open

628
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,800
water dive, and I was terrified, and you know, we

629
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,039
went through underwater some underwater tunnels where the regulator was

630
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:27,519
scraping along the tunnel. And each time there was one

631
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,639
other guy who was a rookie, and I was just

632
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,239
it was he and I were both terrified and we

633
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,800
both our air ran out on all dives. I mean,

634
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,400
it didn't run out in the cave or in the tunnels,

635
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,679
thank god, but it was we were both so scared.

636
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,519
We went through our air and you know, these guys

637
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:47,320
from Nicaragua.

638
00:34:47,519 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like feeling like I can't breathe hearing

639
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,199
it was.

640
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 2: It was, it was terrifying.

641
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, such a panic attack.

642
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's you're going through these in the Palalagar reef.

643
00:34:58,039 --> 00:35:00,199
They've got these. I mean, I want to say, it's like,

644
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:03,079
you know four foot tunnels. They were probably six or

645
00:35:03,079 --> 00:35:06,320
eight feet top to bottom, but you hit it with

646
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,960
your fins. It was you couldn't see anything ahead of you.

647
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,800
It was dark and you had to follow the fins

648
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,239
ahead through the tunnel. And you know, the tunnels were

649
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,880
thirty forty feet and and if something goes wrong in

650
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,159
the tunnel, there's nothing to do. And it was just

651
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,719
and there were Barracuda everywhere. We didn't see any sharks.

652
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000
I kind of wanted to see like a blue shark

653
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,159
or something that. But we saw a lot of barracuda.

654
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:30,840
But it was the caves that were terrifying.

655
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,639
Speaker 1: And this is reminding me of that story. That is

656
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,480
a wondering whole podcast.

657
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,119
Speaker 2: Another one You're gonna sit. Yeah, they went in and

658
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:43,440
they it was stuck in there was it was an

659
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:44,320
open air cave.

660
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they couldn't get out.

661
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got stuck in.

662
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:51,039
Speaker 1: The guy remember Elon Musk tried to insert himself.

663
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: Oh, that was a different story that was that was

664
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,920
a tie kid. Elon Musk wanted to get one. Yeah.

665
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,119
Oh when the boy scouts the tie boy scouts.

666
00:35:59,360 --> 00:35:59,639
Speaker 1: H oh.

667
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,159
Speaker 2: Yeah. They were in a in an air pocket in

668
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:05,840
a cave and Elon Musk wanted to send a submarine

669
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,639
that was way too big. And then when somebody said, Elon,

670
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,840
that submarine won't turn one corner and he said, oh,

671
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,320
you're a pedophile. It was it was a precursor too.

672
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: But then they got there was a guy basically he

673
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,880
was really good at what you're talking about, and he

674
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,880
got them. Yeah, you went in there and got them

675
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,960
and heat it was like a hole. Oh that was

676
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,480
a good a good uh wondering, Yeah, it was wondering,

677
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,800
one of the wondering podcasts about like surviving.

678
00:36:34,199 --> 00:36:38,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, no it was Yeah, that had a happier ending. Yeah,

679
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,599
I just yeah, it was a bad first scuba diving experience.

680
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: How did we get onto scuba dize?

681
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Empty nesting?

682
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:53,039
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726
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,920
back to questions, Yeah, back to questions.

727
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 2: All right, I'll try to knock off a few more

728
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,800
of these very quickly. I love you as a last

729
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,159
minute guest. Thank you very much. I didn't pay for that.

730
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,239
But this is from Ann Carpenter says, how do I

731
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,519
keep my cats off the counters? The kid is twelve

732
00:40:23,519 --> 00:40:26,320
and he stopped doing that years ago. Now, I've never

733
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,840
owned a cat in my life, but I do want

734
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,880
to help. So while Steph was reading the ads, I

735
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,760
went on to AI and I, because I'm very good

736
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,880
at writing prompts real acting you as an elite pet trainer,

737
00:40:38,159 --> 00:40:40,920
how do I keep my cats off the counter, okay,

738
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:46,199
And the short answer, according to Chad's Opus model, you

739
00:40:46,199 --> 00:40:49,159
don't train cats the way you train dogs. You redesign

740
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:54,000
the environment, so behavior stops paying off and cats going

741
00:40:54,039 --> 00:40:57,360
counters for three reasons, food smells, I eighten, vantage point,

742
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,960
and warmth. If any of those remain, you're fighting physics.

743
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,280
So skipping ahead, I won't read you the whole thing

744
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,239
it did. There was a little news you can use

745
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:11,280
at the down here. It basically says double sided tape.

746
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,159
Cats hate sticky services. AD that can't speak sticky surfaces,

747
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:19,880
so cats hate sticky services. Make it unpleasant for them.

748
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,599
Put aluminum foil up crinkly and unstable makes cats furious,

749
00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:27,000
And I'm all for making cats furious persons. Being a

750
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:29,360
dog person, I think that's just a little bonus grin

751
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:33,320
whether it works or not. Motion activated air sprayers best

752
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,880
long term solution, silent teacher, no human blame, so they don't.

753
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,039
It basically says if you put a remote control sprayer on,

754
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:43,159
they won't take vengeance on you. I like that because

755
00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:47,079
cats are devious that way. Yeah, exactly. Finally, it says

756
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:51,679
textured mats and spike mats works especially well overnight.

757
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,679
Speaker 1: Feel like Anne could have just googled this though herself.

758
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,159
Speaker 2: No, but you know, sometimes they need our help. And

759
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,159
I have a love hate relationship with AI, but I

760
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:04,880
figured I could swing in and help with that very quickly. Okay,

761
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,320
moving along, so we address as many of these as

762
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,760
quick as possible. How is the YouTube channel?

763
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: YouTube channel?

764
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,599
Speaker 2: Is it's going well, it's I don't know. For those

765
00:42:15,639 --> 00:42:18,719
that pay attention to YouTube, YouTube had a bit of

766
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,440
a trauma across the board in October. They changed their

767
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,480
algorithm and they changed the way that they present videos. Basically,

768
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,440
YouTube is deeply threatened by TikTok and they are moving

769
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,800
from prioritizing long form videos to leading with shorts YouTube shorts.

770
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,199
So they've given a lot of their landscape to promoting shorts,

771
00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:43,119
which is sort of upset the Apple cart for long

772
00:42:43,199 --> 00:42:47,159
form content creators like my partners and I are. So

773
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,599
we got thrown back. We started getting some real traction.

774
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,320
We got half a million views on two or three videos,

775
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,079
which was great, and we're all excited, and you know,

776
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,440
we're you know, pricing Lamborghinis and just getting ready to

777
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,559
go to the YouTube Awards, and then suddenly our views

778
00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:07,400
went down. From you know, anywhere from fifty thousand to

779
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,559
five hundred thousand down to fifty to five hundred overnight.

780
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,119
But we weren't alone. That was happening to everybody, and

781
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:16,880
it took a couple of months for the reason to

782
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,159
come out. And it's a combination of AI slop channels

783
00:43:21,159 --> 00:43:26,119
that are sort of created entirely by AI, where they

784
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,639
make AI write the script, voice it with something called

785
00:43:29,639 --> 00:43:32,400
the Eleven Labs with the fake voices, and create these

786
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,000
absurd images that they put over. I will say a

787
00:43:36,039 --> 00:43:40,440
lot of the history niche or niche channels really if

788
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,320
you leave it to AI, suddenly they focus in on

789
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,960
things that German female POWs did in Texas during World

790
00:43:48,039 --> 00:43:51,480
War Two. It's a very specific kink that isn't even

791
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:54,519
true because there were no female prisoners of war in

792
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:57,039
America during World War Two. But that doesn't stop the

793
00:43:57,119 --> 00:44:01,480
slop in any case. So we are retooling. We've done

794
00:44:01,519 --> 00:44:04,400
a lot of sort of deep dives, and we are

795
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:10,039
told that because our watchers are somewhere between fifty five

796
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:14,559
and dead, we have a much older demographic who watches history.

797
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:17,400
We at least have the saving grace that they love

798
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,320
watching YouTube on their televisions, and so by leaning into

799
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,119
what is referred to as the living room experience, we

800
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:29,880
can capture our demographic but we are what we're going

801
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,079
to start doing is doing the same type of content

802
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:37,360
we're doing, but with much with upscaling a lot of

803
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,119
our video so it looks great on TVs. You can

804
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,719
do things. There are a lot of software programs that'll

805
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,679
turn old World War two footage into four K. But

806
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,159
in any case, we are trying to create the living

807
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,880
room experience and we're sort of rejiggering things a little bit.

808
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,320
But thank you very much for asking.

809
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: And where can they find it? Tell them that it's documentary.

810
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: It's documentary. It's documentary dot tv a dot official. We're

811
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,199
changing that because it's so byzantine. But if you just

812
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,760
put in documentary TV, I'll put a link on the

813
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,760
fcol page. But yeah, we've been very slow in posting

814
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,920
for the last couple of weeks since we discovered and

815
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,920
we were looped into all the agonizing over the YouTube's

816
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,920
changing to shorts. We're going to put out more shorts

817
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,800
that lead to our lungs. But that's a little too

818
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:31,360
inside baseball. But I'll put a link to the channel up,

819
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,000
but we're going to be putting a lot more content

820
00:45:33,519 --> 00:45:35,920
out starting in about two weeks. I've got something on

821
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,440
I interviewed Chuck Yeger long ago, and Chuck Yeger hated

822
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:44,280
talking about his supersonic flight where he broke the sound

823
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,440
barrier for the first time, but he loved him talking

824
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:51,320
some World War Two and I did too, and so

825
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,920
there's a long part of that. It was for the

826
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,079
History Channel many years ago, and I could only use

827
00:45:58,159 --> 00:46:00,840
the part about him talking about a supersonic flight. But

828
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,000
we spent you know, he talked to me for three

829
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:04,880
hours and I could only use about an hour of it.

830
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,719
And so I've always had this old video Chucks long

831
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,079
since departed, but there's a very long video of him

832
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:14,280
talking about, you know, becoming a double ace in World

833
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,599
War Two. And so I'm cutting a video surrounding Chuck

834
00:46:17,679 --> 00:46:20,840
Yeger and how he got shot down and he escaped

835
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,159
the Nazi's on the ground and the French underground picked

836
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,239
him up. It's a really fascinating story. So that's what

837
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,880
I'm working on right now, but I need to make

838
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,719
it look very pretty for the living room experience. But again,

839
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,960
I appreciate you asking.

840
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: That so, hey, do you have any more or can

841
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,599
I bring up a different topic?

842
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: I've got some more before. We got a couple other questions.

843
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:46,199
Let's see to ask him about the dog. Let's see,

844
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,519
like to car Oh, do I like yacht rock?

845
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:50,199
Speaker 1: No?

846
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,199
Speaker 2: I tolerate yacht rock. I mean it's there's some yacht

847
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,400
rock that actually gives me goose flesh, like Leo Sayer,

848
00:46:58,679 --> 00:47:01,119
and some of it's okay.

849
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,119
Speaker 1: There's you know, Michael McDonald.

850
00:47:03,639 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 2: Michael McDonald. I mean, I respect Michael McDonald. I don't

851
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:09,639
you know, I wish he had done something different. I mean,

852
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,079
his Doobie work was a little better than his yacht rock.

853
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,639
Speaker 1: Work, well, his Doobie Brothers stuff.

854
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,199
Speaker 2: Yet I just, you know, there's a I don't think

855
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:21,760
anybody is. I have a very and I'm a bit

856
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,519
of a music snob. I mean it's I can be

857
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,960
kind of insufferable in the other direction. I grew up,

858
00:47:27,199 --> 00:47:29,519
you know, I started out loving the Rolling Stones and

859
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,440
the Who and everything, and then I gravitated into alternative

860
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,920
bands like The Replacements and Who's Kerdo and the Dead Milkman.

861
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,679
I was very into the punk and post punk scene,

862
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:44,360
and you know, and because music was very tribal in

863
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,440
the eighties because you couldn't get anything played on mainstream

864
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:51,400
radio because that was all aimed at the baby boomers.

865
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,199
Even when we were the twenty somethings, the I was

866
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,719
on the sort of between Gen X and boomers. They

867
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,440
were still playing you know, led Zeppelin five times an

868
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,840
hour and Wishbone Ash five times an hour, and all

869
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,559
of these great new bands that in any other era

870
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:08,960
would be getting lots of play were buried on college radio.

871
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:13,000
So you got like very very tribal about it. And

872
00:48:13,079 --> 00:48:18,559
so I'm I got lucky because the twins just happened

873
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:20,840
to grow up listening to this and like this, and

874
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,159
the twins like a lot of the same music I do.

875
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,079
I mean, they went to Dinosaur Junior with.

876
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: Me, uh, going to Silver Sun pick Up, going.

877
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,639
Speaker 2: To see Silver Sun Pickups. They want to see Bob Moold,

878
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,079
who's sixty five years old. So I'm impressed. But anyhow,

879
00:48:35,159 --> 00:48:38,599
so I'm I'm lucky that the kids sort of are

880
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,320
we LB we split. She didn't go with either of us.

881
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:46,559
She likes DM, which is confusing, but anyhow, but I

882
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,480
you know, yacht rocked to me soft rock. The only

883
00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:52,480
soft rock is in general, I love Fleetwood, mac in

884
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:56,199
a couple others, but it just it does it lacks.

885
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,440
It kind of feels like jello to me.

886
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:06,199
Speaker 1: Okay, well, can I bring something else up that I

887
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,000
know we want to talk about before we end?

888
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:09,119
Speaker 2: Please do so.

889
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: John and I saw a movie together the other night.

890
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,440
We finally we saw One Battle after Another Paul Thomas Anderson.

891
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a chance to go to the Director's

892
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,960
Guild screening and you know, then question Paul Thomas Anderson

893
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,000
after but we couldn't make it work. And we're kind

894
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,199
of glad that it didn't work out because even though

895
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,039
either we both like Paul Thomas Anderson Steph's long ago

896
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,880
feud with him via this podcast notwithstanding, but we didn't

897
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,760
like this movie.

898
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: No, and the whole world did though. I know, so

899
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,800
we're here breaking some like we're saying something.

900
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: We're being controlled.

901
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're being contrarions, but we didn't like it. I

902
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,159
will say that I didn't like the beginning more than

903
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:58,920
I didn't like There were like some parts in the

904
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,119
middle where I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna give

905
00:50:01,159 --> 00:50:03,000
myself over to this and try and have a good

906
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,280
time because I know I'm gonna be here for almost

907
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,960
three hours and then we we we won't spoil it,

908
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,679
but the ending really made me like want to punch

909
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:14,079
a wall.

910
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,199
Speaker 2: I was like, after all this, there was something that

911
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:23,000
was very very pat and very uncharacteristic for Paul Thomas Anderson.

912
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,840
It was trite and that's something that he is not

913
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,519
guilty of.

914
00:50:27,159 --> 00:50:33,039
Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to be I want to say

915
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:36,880
this and it's that I thought it was weird. I

916
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,760
felt a little bit uncomfortable with the idea that Paul

917
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:44,400
Thomas Anderson. And I know he's married to what's her

918
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,239
name from SNI, Yes, so I know he's married to

919
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,519
a black woman. But I did not love the depiction

920
00:50:52,159 --> 00:50:55,280
of the black women in this movie, and it was

921
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,400
a very trying to make them super like sexual and not.

922
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:04,559
It was it was really some like old ideas I

923
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,639
felt about race, and I.

924
00:51:06,599 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: Felt like Quentin Tarantino and Jackie Brown and so many

925
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480
other movies where he felt like he was given some

926
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,920
sort of a race card get out of, you know,

927
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:22,199
and just But honestly, it's interesting because I have rethought

928
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,400
what I think. I don't think it's any better than

929
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,159
I did, but I think I understand what happened now,

930
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:31,400
I could be dead wrong, but taking the two Paul

931
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,639
Thomas Anderson, can I call him PTA? Movies that were

932
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,880
sort of missed the mark with us Liquorice Pizza and

933
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,119
One Battle after Another. And Liquorice Pizza was filmed, you know,

934
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:44,639
in our neighborhood, so we're inclined to like it. It

935
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:48,719
was about my ex boss, Gary Getzman. But that said,

936
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,440
I think, and I'm looking at what I didn't like

937
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,760
in that movie, and I'm thinking about what I didn't

938
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like in One Battle after Another, and I feel like

939
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what PTA is doing, since he wrote and directed both movies,

940
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he's trying to put characters from a dark I mean,

941
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the whole movie I don't think was a dark comedy,

942
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although some people say it was.

943
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Speaker 1: I did not see the comedy whatsoever.

944
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Speaker 2: I think there was there was, there was some sly

945
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,559
attempts at comedy, but I think that. I mean, the

946
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Colonel Lockjaw was a farcical character, and there were three

947
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,119
or four farcical characters in Mystic Pizza. Where you've got these,

948
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:32,239
you've got sort of this. It feels sort of like

949
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,639
a drama or a drama dy mystic or mystic I'm sorry,

950
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:42,159
Liquorice Pizza. Where you've got these, you know, generally realistic

951
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,159
characters and then they run into these broad caricatures and

952
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:50,960
they're interacting in the same world and there's no you know,

953
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,679
there's there accepted as completely normal by the normal characters.

954
00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:58,719
I feel like he's trying, he's inserting these blackly comedic

955
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,559
characters into drama esque and I mean it just to me,

956
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:07,199
it doesn't fit together. I mean, Sean Penn's character is

957
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,719
supposed to be in a black comedy, but because he's

958
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,960
just a cartoon and he's I mean, it's like they

959
00:53:14,039 --> 00:53:16,719
asked Sean Penn to chew up the scenery and he

960
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,840
came back for seconds. I mean, it's just and I

961
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don't think that that was Sean Penn's choice. He was

962
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being asked to do that, but I don't think that

963
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:27,920
fits when you've got you know, Leo DiCaprio was he

964
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,280
was a little outside of reality, but he wasn't anywhere

965
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,280
near it. Just they're different characters and they're they seem

966
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,519
like they're all in different movies, and it didn't click

967
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:38,840
together the way I would.

968
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Speaker 1: Have liked, and they spent I felt like there was

969
00:53:42,039 --> 00:53:46,239
this whole side story about just like this venal racism.

970
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,639
You know, that got so much more attention. I feel

971
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:53,400
like than spending any time with some of the people

972
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that were supposed to be kind of main character.

973
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 2: They didn't develop any character. They're all in I mean,

974
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,280
even though they're not at all all is broad, they're

975
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all very thinly developed characters.

976
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I do.

977
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Speaker 2: Think the Christmas Adventurers, who were not giving anything away

978
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,480
the Christmas Adventures I think was supposed to be. I mean,

979
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,480
they're so cartoonishly racist and awful. I think that that

980
00:54:18,599 --> 00:54:21,880
was supposed to be a blackly comedic but I mean.

981
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Speaker 1: For instance, that's a real thing. There's really not the

982
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,360
Christmas event Christmas Adventure, but racism is not. Yeah, but

983
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,559
it's not huge problem.

984
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 2: It's oh it's a huge problem, but it doesn't quite

985
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,239
I mean, it doesn't quite present itself.

986
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Speaker 1: Now.

987
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Speaker 2: I haven't been to you know, the I haven't been

988
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,000
to Davos, and I haven't been to you know, some

989
00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:47,880
of these Koch Brothers retreats that take place bi annually.

990
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,199
But even there, I don't imagine that there's anything quite

991
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:54,039
on the caliber of the you know, the Christmas Adventures

992
00:54:54,039 --> 00:54:55,079
who they.

993
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Want to make sure you even kind of camp and

994
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:57,719
it was.

995
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 2: Deliberately that, but I mean a good The good comparison

996
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,679
is if you look at I mean, one of my

997
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,960
favorite movies is Doctor Strangelove and Everybody, I mean, and

998
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,199
it's talking about as serious I mean, it's talking about,

999
00:55:09,519 --> 00:55:13,119
you know, nuclear holocaust and it was made in nineteen

1000
00:55:13,159 --> 00:55:17,079
sixty two when that was a very very real fear

1001
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:20,639
and they did it. But the every single person in

1002
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:23,679
that movie is batshit out of their minds and over

1003
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the top, and it fits together beautifully, and it's a

1004
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,880
masterpiece because they're all in the same movie. They're all

1005
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,000
equal measures insane in different directions. Peter Sellers playing more

1006
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:38,559
than one of them, but they all are in the

1007
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same movie. In Paul Thomas Anderson's movies, you've got some

1008
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people who live in the real world, some people live

1009
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in this cartoonish black comedy. And the same with Liquorice Pizza.

1010
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When they go to the whatever that country club is

1011
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,159
and they run into these thinly veiled or I think

1012
00:55:55,159 --> 00:56:00,280
they're actually by real name, mid seventies stars and they're

1013
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,039
crazy and they're like getting into the car and they're

1014
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:04,440
driving two hundred miles an hour and getting out with

1015
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a Martini in their hand. I mean, that's a different

1016
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,159
movie than the kid who's playing young Gary Getzman in

1017
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:12,719
that movie. They're in different movies and I don't think

1018
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,440
it fits together. But that's just my opinion.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We love you guys. Thank you. Please sign

1020
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,840
up for Patreon. John and I are going to do

1021
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,280
a Patreon. It's we're going to surprise you.

1022
00:56:27,679 --> 00:56:29,679
Speaker 2: But thank you for your questions. It helped a lot.

1023
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we just need to say hi to our friends. Listen,

1024
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,440
I'm going to tell you we talked about our car.

1025
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Adam got it for us. Adam's got a car dot com.

1026
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You know where to find him. But just a shout

1027
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out to our friends. We got Kelsey between two ferns

1028
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and Dick is frolicking. And Kelly Brandt she's not your aunt,

1029
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but she'll take you to hip hop class. And Alicia

1030
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Escalante from the City of Almonte. And Leslie is still

1031
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,079
coughing because COVID's back. Aaron's a dirty Sanchez, Sandra, it's

1032
00:56:56,119 --> 00:56:59,079
not easy being green. Stephanie yours stinker wrinker, Christa get

1033
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this drap Nikki call your girl. And Elizabeth Williamson's got

1034
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a lot of kids, and Rita is La Bassett, Howend

1035
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we're going to adopt you, and Polly, we love your pancakes.

1036
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Valerie hits out of the park, Katerina, check your moler,

1037
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Gabby and Missy still at the Super Bowl, Ishan vojpe

1038
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Rebecca a little bit and choke cute and that's it,

1039
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and uh, you're a parent now.

1040
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Speaker 2: I don't figure does.

1041
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Speaker 1: It's good that ang