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your support. So have you read The Wall Street Journal?
I mean not recently, but because I haven't, I don't
think I don't pay for the subscription. I haven't had
a subscription to the Wall Street Journal in probably ten
years or so. But they are out with an exclusive
story Donald Trump, a poet and a doodler. Yeah, this is,
I guess, the bombshell that everybody was waiting for. Not
really sure why. Now. For the record, I have not
seen the doodle. I have not seen the typed out
poem that apparently Donald Trump wrote. I wasn't even aware
it was a poem until somebody said something on Twitter.
I saw about iambic pentameter or something, and I like that.
All of that stuff is beyond me. I was never
into the poetry unless you like put like a driving
bass and drum beat behind it, then I could remember poetry.
But if you didn't put it to music, I'm not
going to remember poetry. And honestly, i'm a little I'm
very impressed by people who are able to recite poetry,
because I have. It's just one of those things I
never got into, except for the whole roses or red
violence or blue thing that was easy enough to remember.
But I am to believe that this is a poem,
and this is the big scoop that the Wall Street
Journal is now going to get sued over, probably because
they put out a report yesterday evening. I want to
say that Donald Trump wrote a poem with a doodle
as part of a birthday binder or something like yeah,
birthday wishes to Jeffrey Epstein, which I guess at this
point I should start playing this every time I say
Jeffrey Epstein. On second thought, I probab shouldn't, cause I'm
going to be playing that a lot because I'm going
to say the guy's name a lot, which I'm not
allowed to say. Apparently I've been told by I think
the Masad that I'm not supposed to talk about Jeffrey Epstein,
or if I don't talk about him every single second
of the day, then I am part of the Jewish
Massad conspiracy or something. I do talk about him, then
I then I am also trying to destroy Donald Trump
or something or look, I'm not really sure. All I
can tell you is what was in the report here,
and I don't know. I don't think anybody knows what
the relationship was between Trump and Epstein except probably Donald Trump.
And a little bit of background in twenty fifteen, when
Donald Trump announced his candidacy for president, when he came
down the Golden escalator, and then he began surging in
the polls and he started winning these primaries and stuff.
I spoke out against his candidacy. I gave all of
the information I could about why I did not think
he was going to be a good president, why people
should reject him in the Republican primaries, and I completely
lost that fight. Although my listening area up around Ashville,
if you look looked at the coverage map of the
radio station, those areas in our listening area, they went
for Ted Cruz, but Trump still carried the state. So
what difference did that make? Right? So, one of the
things about Donald Trump that I talked about ten years
ago was that he was a bit of a and
I don't I shouldn't even use the word because I
don't know lothario. Is that the right word. Yeah, I
mean he was a ladies man, right, he he was.
I don't want to say womanser, but maybe I don't know. Like,
the guy wrote a book about sleeping with his friend's wives.
I mean, it wasn't about that only, but it was
a large part of the book. He talked about how
STDs were his quote personal Vietnam. Right, the guy got around, right,
he he he went out with lots of women, and
this was known. He was the most eligible bachelor and
even when he was married. I'm kidding, not really, But anyway,
the point was, like, we all knew this about Trump,
and the left thought that they had Trump with the
Access Hollywood tape right when they released that right before
the election, and of course we knew how that turned out.
It did not influence the election, but it did turn
a lot of women in the suburbs off. They did
not Republican women, I should say, they did not want
to vote for him, and it was a lot closer
probably than it could have been had that tape not
come out. So all of that being said, it is
not surprising that Donald Trump would write a letter of
birthday wishes to a guy that Trump himself acknowledges that
he knew. Everybody knew him. Everybody in that quote unquote
elite environment knew Jeffrey Epstein. And they lived down the
street from each other, and they went against each other
in a bidding war or an auction war over a
property that they both wanted. Trump did win that, by
the way, He won that auction, and that's apparently what
soured their relationship. And all of that occurred prior to
Epstein having an investigation opened against him. Right, So that's
the timeline here. You got to go back twenty five
thirty years. Epstein is, you know, making all these moves.
He has all these parties with people and stuff like that.
He's got all these connections, and he turns fifty and
his cohort, his partner in crime, Glaine Maxwell, who is
you know, in prison for her role in this prostitution
ring that had absolutely no clients. Apparently she's in prison
in he killed himself or didn't kill himself. And nobody
really knows because the video has been you know, has
been released, but there's like two minutes missing out of
it or whatever, So we didn't really know if he
killed himself. And people who know that prison, they're like, yeah,
unless the guy was you know, two feet tall, there's
no way to there's nothing to hang yourself off of.
But who knows. I don't know, and I'm withholding judgment
when I rules in the Trump era is to give
it some time. Let's see what happens. I don't have
to draw conclusion and draw a line in the stand
and say this is what happened. This is obviously what happened,
because I don't know, because it's not obvious what all happened.
For example, I used to think, hey, you know what
he may have been Epstein may have been an asset.
He could have been an asset in the service of
the CIA or Israeli intelligence, the Massade. I guess I
should probably do that for Massade or any other foreign
intelligence service. I don't know, Oh, it's possible. But then
I saw an interview with Mike Bens. He appeared on
the Liz Wheeler podcast and Mike Ben's I've cited his
work in the past. He's a former State Department guy,
and he's like he's now he left the State Department
just outraged about stuff, and he's been I think it's
called The Gray Zone is now his podcast, and so
he brings I think a lot of credibility, but expertise
as well, even though I know that's a dirty word nowadays.
But he's been offering advice on like what Pam BONDI
should specifically ask for, because if you don't know the
way these intelligence services operate and who does what and
what the forms are and stuff, you're not going to
know what to look for, right. So he's been offering that.
But he made a good point on the Liz Wheeler
podcast a couple of days ago that he said he
doesn't believe Epstein was an asset because that word means something.
What's more likely, in Mike Benz's opinion, is that Epstein
was a financier. Now, how he got the money, Apparently
he stole a bunch of it from the Victoria's Secrets founder.
He was managing that guy's money and stole a bunch
of it. Whatever, But anyway, Nobody really knows how he
got all of his money. Nobody seems really particularly interested
in figuring that out, which I think is the most
important key to all of this. If you can trace that,
that probably would tell you a lot. But it sounds
like he may have been a cutout for government intelligence agencies,
not that he was in their employee. He was a
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think Ebstein, Well I should, says I think, because I
don't know, but it sounds plausible. I think it is
a legitimate theory that Jeffrey Epstein was a financier. He
was a cutout. What does that mean? I don't I'm
not an expert in any of his stuff, but I
do play one sometimes on the radio when I'm quoting
other people and reading their stories. The cutout. The service
that this financier or cutout would provide is if a
country wants to do something that their political leadership doesn't
want them to do. From an intelligence standpoint, they can
get together a bunch of money through a financier and
then that guy becomes the bagman basically, and then he
hands off the money to some other party that gets
the money to the operation that the original government did
not want their fingerprints on. Okay. And what Mike Bens
said was that one of the clients, not the sex clients,
but a business client that Epstein apparently had or knew
or something, was a guy named Kashogi. Not the guy
that got chopped up in the suitcase, the Saudi Arabia
guy in the Washington Post column. Not that guy. Some
other guy named Kashogi. I don't know if they were
related or not, but that guy was apparently at the
heart of the Iran contra affair back in the eighties
under President Reagan, where the CIA right sold the arms
or sold I forget what it was all about. I
was in grade school, guys, I was not following politics
in first grade, okay. But the deal involved Iran and
then sending the money down to the Nicaraguan rebels or
whatever they were, and they didn't want the US didn't
want fingerprints on any of that stuff, which, of course
it eventually came out. They didn't want their fingerprints on it,
so they used financiers. And he might be gave other
examples of this as well. And when you have ally
countries that don't or that are at cross purposes, let
me say they don't agree with a particular operation or
a strategy. You know, don't you get involved in this
thing over here other country. You know, it's a way
for the other country to get involved in the thing
without having their fingerprints on it and ruining the relationship
with their allied countries. And so if that is the case,
and I know that's a big if. This is just
a theory, right, but if that is the case that
Epstein was playing this role, it doesn't mean he's on
the payroll of any of these governments. I'm sure the
intel agencies knew, like if they were vetting their bag man,
they would know, Okay, this guy's got all these you know,
this this perversion and all this other stuff. But it's
not like it's not like they were running him as
an asset or an agent. Right, But if he were,
if it were to get out that he was doing
all of this work, and if any of this stuff
is in any of the files. If they're you know,
if they would even write this stuff down, that has
the potential to do serious damage to international relations. And
that tells me, if that's true, that there is a
really big incentive for the intelligence agencies to not let
this stuff get out, right, because they don't want other
countries to see what they have been doing, or who
they've been working with, and operations they have funded and
all of that. That is not an argument, by the way,
to say that we shouldn't get all of this stuff released.
I'm not arguing that, but I understand the incentive that
the deep state, the intelligence agencies, and politicians would have
in saying, okay, let's put this thing to bed. Right,
we are at a point now where I don't think
that's an option anymore. I think Trump tried it last
week and part of his uh, you know, the MAGA
influencer crowd, they're not having anything to do with that.
They want it all they're they're you know, they've they've
made this a huge issue for them over the last
whatever five years or so, so they wanted out. I
mentioned the other day, I think it was Wednesday or something,
maybe Tuesday when I when I did talk about Epstein
because people are accusing me and everybody else, you I
don't you talk about Epstein like I already talked about
him once this week and now here's twice this week.
Or the Epstein files and all that he tried to
put it to rest. It wouldn't uh, that wouldn't fly
with the magaaland folks some of them. Others are like, okay, yeah,
let's move on. But then you saw the Democrats pounce
dare I say, sees upon this issue because they see
it as a way to hurt Trump and to divide
the Trump base, right, so they are all in on it.
That's why you got Democrats running around filing all of
these resolutions and motions, you know, try to attach things
to bills to get you know, the DOJ to release
all of the Epstein files. Now. I don't know if
they are aware of what all is in the files,
if there are any files, I don't know. I think
they are just looking right now. Their incentive is hurt Trump,
divide the base, we can win back the House, issue subpoenas,
start impeachment proceedings like that. That's their incentives. I always
try to look for incentives, and so that's their incentive.
They're going to take advantage of this because it hurts
Trump and splits the base right. But to me, the
real question is did Donald Trump write the poem. I'm
going to read you the poem and you tell me
if it sounds like Donald Trump at all. Okay, all right,
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Nobody is talking about the original cases against Epstein that
he was found guilty of. By the way, I think
he is alive somewhere that we will never know about now.
He's hanging with Elvis. Come on, all right, So the
Wall Street Journal out with this exclusive story. It was
Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth birthday and Gilain Maxwell was preparing a
special gift to mark the occasion. She turned to Epstein's
family and friends, One of them was Donald Trump. Maxwell
collected letters from Trump and dozens of Epstein's other associates
for a two thousand and three birthday album, According to
documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. As far as
I know, there's no image by the way of this
document of this letter. Pages from the leather bound album,
a umbled before Epstein was first arrested in two thousand
and six, so that was three years later. Are among
the documents examined by Justice Department officials, who then leaked
it to the Wall Street scher Oh, I mean sorry,
they didn't say that, But they were examined by DOJ
officials who investigated Epstein and Maxwell years ago, according to
people who have reviewed the pages, So that has to
come from the DOJ. Right. It's unclear if any of
the pages are part of the Trump administration's recent review,
but it very well could have been. And if you
are in the administration and you're going through the documents
and you see this letter that's in this album, maybe
that's a good reason for you to say, Hey, we
shouldn't release any more of this stuff. Let's just say
it's done. We're done, like that's it. Stop this whole thing,
which is the wrong approach. I think they should have
just put it out there, and Trump could have just
given an explanation like, yeah, I kne who the guy was.
I had my assistant type this thing up, this letter
because it's tight and there are not like random capitalizations
all throughout the text here. In fact, it's a very
odd thing. This what is described as a letter, but
I've seen people call it a poem or something. I
don't think it's a poem. In fact, it looks like
it reads like a script. It literally has the first
words voiceover colon like these are stage directions with scripts,
so the voiceover, and it's not very long. I'm gonna
read the whole thing to you. I will do my
best to differentiate the voices here, But every single script
here has voiceover in front of it, and then Donald Jeffrey,
Donald Jeffrey, Donald Jeffrey, and then Trump. Which is weird
that he would say Trump at the end of it
versus just Donald again. So that's odd to me. But
maybe like you're trying to make sure that everybody knows
this is Trump, But throughout the script it just says
Donald every time. Okay, so here's the text voiceover. There
must be more to life than having everything Donald. Yes,
there is, but I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey,
nor will I since I also know what it is. Donald.
We have certain things in common, Jeffrey Jeffrey. Yes, we do,
come to think of it, Donald Enigmas never age have
you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it
was clear to me the last time I saw you Trump,
a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may
every day be another wonderful secret which people are obviously
construing in the worst possible way, that Donald Trump knew
Epstein's secrets. That's it. That's where it ends. Okay, So
the letter bearing Trump's name, which was reviewed by the
journal is Body, which I thought like, wasn't that like
the description of all of those late night cinemax shows
or something? Okay, I don't like, was that body to you?
I don't even know anyway, Like many of the other
letters that were in the album, it contained several lines
of typewritten text, so that was typewritten. Donald Trump famously
user of the typewriter and such. But so that was
all typed out. And the text is inside a silhouette
like a with the use of a marker, a heavy marker, which,
of course you know everybody knows Donald Trump writes with
the sharpie all the time. And so the marker is
used to make an outline of a woman. They claim
it's a naked woman. I don't know how you would
know it's a naked woman if it's just a sharpie
outline right. It appears to be hand drawn with a
heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denote the woman's breasts,
and the future president's signature is a squiggly donald below
her waist, right in that pelvic region. So he he
wrote his name as the as hair, essentially, but we
don't know if that's actually true. We haven't seen it.
All we're getting is the Wall Street Journal's description of this.
So everybody is conjuring up their own visions of what
this thing must look like. Now. Trump denied this. He said,
this is not me. This is a fake thing. It's
a fake Wall Street Journal story. I never wrote a
picture in my life. I never wrote a picture. I
don't know what that means. I don't draw pictures of women.
It's not my language, it's not my words. He told
the journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if
it published an article about this. He says, I'm going
to sue the Wall Street Journal, just like I sued
everyone else. This is all from the Wall Street Journal article.
Allegations that Epstein had been sexually abusing girls became public
in two thousand and six, and he was arrested that year.
Epstein died in twenty nineteen in jail, allegedly after he
was arrested a second time and charged with sex trafficking conspiracy.
Justice Department officials did not respond to requests for comment
or address questions about whether the Trump paid and other pages,
if they album were part of the agency's recent documents review,
and the FBI has declined to comment. Another question that
I have on the larger story, if Epstein didn't kill himself, right,
but he was in fact murdered to cover up the
whole operation, and that very well could have happened. I
do not know, right, So if that's but if that's
the theory to be tested, then what of Gilaine Maxwell?
How do you explain the fact that she's still alive?
And I think like a week or so ago she
said she would be willing to spill the beans on
all of this stuff. So how come she's still alive?
If the powerful people could get to him, how could
they not get to her? And maybe they are trying
to I don't know, right, And if she dies or
commits suicide, then we'll have all different bunch of questionestions here.
But it's one of the things I've never quite understood Jack.
I don't understand why she's in prison serving this term
for a crime that there are no other perpetrators like
she ran this ring, yet there are no Johns that
were ever arrested. When you think she would know who
those people are? Yeah, a lot of questions, A lot
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dot com. I got a tweet here from Karen. It's
a Pete tweet. She says, out of all of the
coverage on the Epstein boondoggle going on, yours is the
only coverage I will pay attention to. Thank you, Karen.
Thanks for the level headed commentary that I misrush for.
Tired of the extremes on both sides everyone else I
turn off quickly. Thank you, Karen. I appreciate that. Look.
I try to give you as much of this information
as I can. I put my cards on the table,
tell you where my mind is on stuff, and you
decide for yourself. I think you guys are smart enough
to know you know your own opinions on things and
form your own opinions on things. So and I also
you know that's why I'm bringing this story. There are
some people who'd be like, no, we're not going to
talk about this because whatever reason, but you should hear
this stuff so this way, when somebody else comes at
you with this story, you will have some of the
details right and some of the questions. And anybody that
tells you they know what went on with Epstein unless
they were like an investigator on the case, they nobody
really knows. Even the people like in journalism that have
been on this case for fifteen years, they acknowledge they
don't know all of the stuff. Because the more you
start peeling away the layers of the onion, the more
you realize there are a lot more layers to go,
and you don't know a lot of stuff. One thing
I think is pretty clear that Epstein was just a monster.
Guy was just a monster and a con man, a charlatan.
Now there are people who are coming to Trump's defense saying,
as the president, did you know he doesn't draw like this?
Hang on a second. He says, I never wrote a
picture in my life. I don't draw pictures of women.
And I don't know if that's true or not. I'll
take him at his word for it. But he does draw,
he has drawn, and so this is the big gotcha
that democrats are using. Because in his own book, Never
Give Up, there's a passage where he says, sometimes being
a giver, which is I am a giver as well.
Sometimes being a giver will open you up to new talents.
Each year, I donate and autographed doodle to the Doodle
four Hunger auction at Tavern on the Green. It's a
restaurant in Manhattan. It's a great event and contributors have
included Sting, Muhammad Ali, Larry King, a whole bunch of
other names. He drops in there. It takes me a
few minutes to draw something. In my case, it's usually
a building or a skyscraper or a city scape of skyscrapers.
And then I signed my name. But it raises thousands
of dollars to help the Hungary in New York through
the Capuchin Food Pantries Ministry. And then he talks a
little bit about the charity event and there's an image
the doodle for Hunger and it's it's just like buildings.
It's a skyline, very rudimentary, like just black you know,
sharpie marker, with some buildings like all one line. He
never picks the pen up. He just goes right across
the page making different sized buildings and stuff. And then
he takes a gray pen or maybe a pencil and
he does like a little silhouette line on some of
the sides of the buildings, and he makes some windows
here and there, and then he signs his name, which
during the break, I just realized I never noticed this
about his signature, his last name. He's got too many
he's got too many letters in there, because like he
does the big TE thing, and then he's got like
that would be the R. The first peak that comes
up is the R, and then it goes down and
it goes up and down and up, So that's the U.
And then it goes down and then up one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
nine peaks after the TRU. So, okay, that's the M.
He's got like an extra M or two in there.
It's so it's Trump, I guess. Anyway, I never noticed
that about his signature. It's the little things, people, That's
how you crack the case. Okay, So he went on
to truth social Trump did, and here was his statement.
The Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch personally were warned
directly by President Donald J. Trump that the supposed letter
they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a fake
and if they printed they will be sued mister Murdoch
stated that he would take care of it, but obviously
did not have the power to do so. The editor
of the Wall Street Journal, Emma Tucker, was told directly
by Caroline Levitt and by President Trump that the letter
was a fake, but Emma Tucker didn't want to hear that. Instead,
they're going with a false, malicious, and defamatory story anyway.
President Trump will be suing the Wall Street Journal, News
Corps and mister Murdoch shortly. The press has to learn
to be truthful and not rely on sources that probably
don't even exist. President Trump has already beaten George Stephanopolis,
slash ABC sixty minutes, slash CBS, and others, and looks
forward to suing and holding accountable the once grade Wall
Street Journal. It has truly turned out to be a
disgusting and filthy rag that's in quotes and writing defamatory
lies like this shows their desperation to remain relevant. If
there were any truth at all on the Epstein hoax,
as it pertains to President Trump, this information would have
been revealed by Comy Brennan, Crooked Hillary, and other radical
left lunatics years ago. It certainly would not have sat
in a file waiting for Trump all caps in quotes
to have won the three elections. This is yet an
other example of fake news. Notice he says three elections there,
and I agree that if this was in the files,
why wouldn't they have produced it within the last fifteen years?
Why just now, of all moments, now somebody comes forward
with this document. It's a little suss. As the kids
would say, suspicious gen x and above. He also had
another post where he said, based on the ridiculous amount
of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney
General Pambondi to produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony,
which I don't think he can do, but we'll say,
subject to court approval. This scam perpetrated by the Democrats
should end right now. So he sounds like he's going
to sue the Wall Street Journal in news corps, which
if this is false, then he should. And by the way,
if it is false, the Wall Street Journal should identify
publicly their source or sources, right they should burn the
liars now. If they're not willing to do that. If
that ends up being the case, then you kind of
know where the Wall Street Journal is coming from on
this stuff. But I had a thought when I saw
that he was threatening and threatening to sue the Wall
Street Journal over this. It's a little bit outside the box, granted, Okay,
But as long as we're just speculating on theories and such,
is it possible that this is just a way for
News Corps and Rupert Murdoch's family or whatever their their
operation is this, Is it possible that this is just
a way to make a very large donation to Donald
Trump's presidential library without having to make a direct contribution, right,
so you wouldn't be on the donor list, but you
would still pay out tens of millions of dollars. I mean, yes,
it would be through a defamation suit and all that whatever,
and you would have probably you know, they settle and
they give him a bunch of money because Trump has
said I think that the previous settlements that money is
going to go to his presidential library. So is it
possible I'm just spitball in here. It is it possible
that they write this story just so they can make
a donation to his library. I don't believe that's true either,
but it's possible. You don't know. Nobody knows it's possible.
Ed Morrissey at hodair dot com. He called the whole
story a big fat nothing. Berger Trump has already acknowledged
many times that he and Epstein used to socialize together,
but he stopped contacting Epstein well before his first arrest
in two thousand and seven. What would it matter if
Trump had sent a birthday letter to him in two
thousand and three, four years prior. It's a fair point
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