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your support. So have you read The Wall Street Journal?

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I mean not recently, but because I haven't, I don't

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think I don't pay for the subscription. I haven't had

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a subscription to the Wall Street Journal in probably ten

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years or so. But they are out with an exclusive

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story Donald Trump, a poet and a doodler. Yeah, this is,

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I guess, the bombshell that everybody was waiting for. Not

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really sure why. Now. For the record, I have not

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seen the doodle. I have not seen the typed out

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poem that apparently Donald Trump wrote. I wasn't even aware

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it was a poem until somebody said something on Twitter.

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I saw about iambic pentameter or something, and I like that.

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All of that stuff is beyond me. I was never

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into the poetry unless you like put like a driving

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bass and drum beat behind it, then I could remember poetry.

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But if you didn't put it to music, I'm not

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going to remember poetry. And honestly, i'm a little I'm

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very impressed by people who are able to recite poetry,

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because I have. It's just one of those things I

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never got into, except for the whole roses or red

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violence or blue thing that was easy enough to remember.

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But I am to believe that this is a poem,

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and this is the big scoop that the Wall Street

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Journal is now going to get sued over, probably because

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they put out a report yesterday evening. I want to

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say that Donald Trump wrote a poem with a doodle

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as part of a birthday binder or something like yeah,

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birthday wishes to Jeffrey Epstein, which I guess at this

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point I should start playing this every time I say

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Jeffrey Epstein. On second thought, I probab shouldn't, cause I'm

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going to be playing that a lot because I'm going

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to say the guy's name a lot, which I'm not

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allowed to say. Apparently I've been told by I think

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the Masad that I'm not supposed to talk about Jeffrey Epstein,

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or if I don't talk about him every single second

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of the day, then I am part of the Jewish

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Massad conspiracy or something. I do talk about him, then

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I then I am also trying to destroy Donald Trump

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or something or look, I'm not really sure. All I

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can tell you is what was in the report here,

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and I don't know. I don't think anybody knows what

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the relationship was between Trump and Epstein except probably Donald Trump.

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And a little bit of background in twenty fifteen, when

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Donald Trump announced his candidacy for president, when he came

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down the Golden escalator, and then he began surging in

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the polls and he started winning these primaries and stuff.

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I spoke out against his candidacy. I gave all of

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the information I could about why I did not think

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he was going to be a good president, why people

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should reject him in the Republican primaries, and I completely

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lost that fight. Although my listening area up around Ashville,

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if you look looked at the coverage map of the

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radio station, those areas in our listening area, they went

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for Ted Cruz, but Trump still carried the state. So

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what difference did that make? Right? So, one of the

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things about Donald Trump that I talked about ten years

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ago was that he was a bit of a and

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I don't I shouldn't even use the word because I

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don't know lothario. Is that the right word. Yeah, I

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mean he was a ladies man, right, he he was.

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I don't want to say womanser, but maybe I don't know. Like,

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the guy wrote a book about sleeping with his friend's wives.

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I mean, it wasn't about that only, but it was

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a large part of the book. He talked about how

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STDs were his quote personal Vietnam. Right, the guy got around, right,

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he he he went out with lots of women, and

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this was known. He was the most eligible bachelor and

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even when he was married. I'm kidding, not really, But anyway,

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the point was, like, we all knew this about Trump,

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and the left thought that they had Trump with the

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Access Hollywood tape right when they released that right before

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the election, and of course we knew how that turned out.

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It did not influence the election, but it did turn

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a lot of women in the suburbs off. They did

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not Republican women, I should say, they did not want

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to vote for him, and it was a lot closer

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probably than it could have been had that tape not

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come out. So all of that being said, it is

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not surprising that Donald Trump would write a letter of

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birthday wishes to a guy that Trump himself acknowledges that

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he knew. Everybody knew him. Everybody in that quote unquote

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elite environment knew Jeffrey Epstein. And they lived down the

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street from each other, and they went against each other

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in a bidding war or an auction war over a

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property that they both wanted. Trump did win that, by

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the way, He won that auction, and that's apparently what

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soured their relationship. And all of that occurred prior to

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Epstein having an investigation opened against him. Right, So that's

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the timeline here. You got to go back twenty five

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thirty years. Epstein is, you know, making all these moves.

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He has all these parties with people and stuff like that.

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He's got all these connections, and he turns fifty and

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his cohort, his partner in crime, Glaine Maxwell, who is

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you know, in prison for her role in this prostitution

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ring that had absolutely no clients. Apparently she's in prison

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in he killed himself or didn't kill himself. And nobody

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really knows because the video has been you know, has

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been released, but there's like two minutes missing out of

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it or whatever, So we didn't really know if he

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killed himself. And people who know that prison, they're like, yeah,

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unless the guy was you know, two feet tall, there's

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no way to there's nothing to hang yourself off of.

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But who knows. I don't know, and I'm withholding judgment

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when I rules in the Trump era is to give

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it some time. Let's see what happens. I don't have

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to draw conclusion and draw a line in the stand

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and say this is what happened. This is obviously what happened,

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because I don't know, because it's not obvious what all happened.

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For example, I used to think, hey, you know what

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he may have been Epstein may have been an asset.

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He could have been an asset in the service of

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the CIA or Israeli intelligence, the Massade. I guess I

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should probably do that for Massade or any other foreign

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intelligence service. I don't know, Oh, it's possible. But then

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I saw an interview with Mike Bens. He appeared on

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the Liz Wheeler podcast and Mike Ben's I've cited his

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work in the past. He's a former State Department guy,

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and he's like he's now he left the State Department

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just outraged about stuff, and he's been I think it's

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called The Gray Zone is now his podcast, and so

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he brings I think a lot of credibility, but expertise

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as well, even though I know that's a dirty word nowadays.

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But he's been offering advice on like what Pam BONDI

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should specifically ask for, because if you don't know the

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way these intelligence services operate and who does what and

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what the forms are and stuff, you're not going to

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know what to look for, right. So he's been offering that.

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But he made a good point on the Liz Wheeler

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podcast a couple of days ago that he said he

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doesn't believe Epstein was an asset because that word means something.

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What's more likely, in Mike Benz's opinion, is that Epstein

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was a financier. Now, how he got the money, Apparently

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he stole a bunch of it from the Victoria's Secrets founder.

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He was managing that guy's money and stole a bunch

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of it. Whatever, But anyway, Nobody really knows how he

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got all of his money. Nobody seems really particularly interested

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in figuring that out, which I think is the most

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important key to all of this. If you can trace that,

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that probably would tell you a lot. But it sounds

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like he may have been a cutout for government intelligence agencies,

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not that he was in their employee. He was a

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think Ebstein, Well I should, says I think, because I

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don't know, but it sounds plausible. I think it is

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a legitimate theory that Jeffrey Epstein was a financier. He

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was a cutout. What does that mean? I don't I'm

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not an expert in any of his stuff, but I

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do play one sometimes on the radio when I'm quoting

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other people and reading their stories. The cutout. The service

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that this financier or cutout would provide is if a

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country wants to do something that their political leadership doesn't

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want them to do. From an intelligence standpoint, they can

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get together a bunch of money through a financier and

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then that guy becomes the bagman basically, and then he

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hands off the money to some other party that gets

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the money to the operation that the original government did

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not want their fingerprints on. Okay. And what Mike Bens

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said was that one of the clients, not the sex clients,

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but a business client that Epstein apparently had or knew

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or something, was a guy named Kashogi. Not the guy

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that got chopped up in the suitcase, the Saudi Arabia

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guy in the Washington Post column. Not that guy. Some

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other guy named Kashogi. I don't know if they were

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related or not, but that guy was apparently at the

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heart of the Iran contra affair back in the eighties

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under President Reagan, where the CIA right sold the arms

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or sold I forget what it was all about. I

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was in grade school, guys, I was not following politics

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in first grade, okay. But the deal involved Iran and

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then sending the money down to the Nicaraguan rebels or

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whatever they were, and they didn't want the US didn't

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want fingerprints on any of that stuff, which, of course

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it eventually came out. They didn't want their fingerprints on it,

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so they used financiers. And he might be gave other

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examples of this as well. And when you have ally

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countries that don't or that are at cross purposes, let

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me say they don't agree with a particular operation or

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a strategy. You know, don't you get involved in this

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thing over here other country. You know, it's a way

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for the other country to get involved in the thing

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without having their fingerprints on it and ruining the relationship

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with their allied countries. And so if that is the case,

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and I know that's a big if. This is just

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a theory, right, but if that is the case that

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Epstein was playing this role, it doesn't mean he's on

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the payroll of any of these governments. I'm sure the

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intel agencies knew, like if they were vetting their bag man,

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they would know, Okay, this guy's got all these you know,

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this this perversion and all this other stuff. But it's

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not like it's not like they were running him as

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an asset or an agent. Right, But if he were,

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if it were to get out that he was doing

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all of this work, and if any of this stuff

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is in any of the files. If they're you know,

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if they would even write this stuff down, that has

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the potential to do serious damage to international relations. And

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that tells me, if that's true, that there is a

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really big incentive for the intelligence agencies to not let

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this stuff get out, right, because they don't want other

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countries to see what they have been doing, or who

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they've been working with, and operations they have funded and

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all of that. That is not an argument, by the way,

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to say that we shouldn't get all of this stuff released.

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I'm not arguing that, but I understand the incentive that

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the deep state, the intelligence agencies, and politicians would have

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in saying, okay, let's put this thing to bed. Right,

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we are at a point now where I don't think

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that's an option anymore. I think Trump tried it last

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influencer crowd, they're not having anything to do with that.

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whatever five years or so, so they wanted out. I

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maybe Tuesday when I when I did talk about Epstein

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because people are accusing me and everybody else, you I

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don't you talk about Epstein like I already talked about

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him once this week and now here's twice this week.

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Or the Epstein files and all that he tried to

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put it to rest. It wouldn't uh, that wouldn't fly

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with the magaaland folks some of them. Others are like, okay, yeah,

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let's move on. But then you saw the Democrats pounce

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dare I say, sees upon this issue because they see

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it as a way to hurt Trump and to divide

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the Trump base, right, so they are all in on it.

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That's why you got Democrats running around filing all of

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these resolutions and motions, you know, try to attach things

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to bills to get you know, the DOJ to release

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all of the Epstein files. Now. I don't know if

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they are aware of what all is in the files,

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if there are any files, I don't know. I think

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they are just looking right now. Their incentive is hurt Trump,

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divide the base, we can win back the House, issue subpoenas,

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start impeachment proceedings like that. That's their incentives. I always

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try to look for incentives, and so that's their incentive.

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They're going to take advantage of this because it hurts

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Trump and splits the base right. But to me, the

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real question is did Donald Trump write the poem. I'm

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going to read you the poem and you tell me

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if it sounds like Donald Trump at all. Okay, all right,

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as they make the media landscape more transparent. Here's a

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message from the WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC.

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Nobody is talking about the original cases against Epstein that

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he was found guilty of. By the way, I think

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he is alive somewhere that we will never know about now.

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He's hanging with Elvis. Come on, all right, So the

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Wall Street Journal out with this exclusive story. It was

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Jeffrey Epstein's fiftieth birthday and Gilain Maxwell was preparing a

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special gift to mark the occasion. She turned to Epstein's

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family and friends, One of them was Donald Trump. Maxwell

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collected letters from Trump and dozens of Epstein's other associates

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for a two thousand and three birthday album, According to

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documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. As far as

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I know, there's no image by the way of this

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document of this letter. Pages from the leather bound album,

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a umbled before Epstein was first arrested in two thousand

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and six, so that was three years later. Are among

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the documents examined by Justice Department officials, who then leaked

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it to the Wall Street scher Oh, I mean sorry,

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they didn't say that, But they were examined by DOJ

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officials who investigated Epstein and Maxwell years ago, according to

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people who have reviewed the pages, So that has to

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come from the DOJ. Right. It's unclear if any of

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the pages are part of the Trump administration's recent review,

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but it very well could have been. And if you

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are in the administration and you're going through the documents

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and you see this letter that's in this album, maybe

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that's a good reason for you to say, Hey, we

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shouldn't release any more of this stuff. Let's just say

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it's done. We're done, like that's it. Stop this whole thing,

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which is the wrong approach. I think they should have

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just put it out there, and Trump could have just

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given an explanation like, yeah, I kne who the guy was.

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I had my assistant type this thing up, this letter

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because it's tight and there are not like random capitalizations

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all throughout the text here. In fact, it's a very

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odd thing. This what is described as a letter, but

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I've seen people call it a poem or something. I

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don't think it's a poem. In fact, it looks like

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it reads like a script. It literally has the first

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words voiceover colon like these are stage directions with scripts,

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so the voiceover, and it's not very long. I'm gonna

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read the whole thing to you. I will do my

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best to differentiate the voices here, But every single script

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here has voiceover in front of it, and then Donald Jeffrey,

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Donald Jeffrey, Donald Jeffrey, and then Trump. Which is weird

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that he would say Trump at the end of it

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versus just Donald again. So that's odd to me. But

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maybe like you're trying to make sure that everybody knows

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this is Trump, But throughout the script it just says

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Donald every time. Okay, so here's the text voiceover. There

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must be more to life than having everything Donald. Yes,

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there is, but I won't tell you what it is, Jeffrey,

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nor will I since I also know what it is. Donald.

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We have certain things in common, Jeffrey Jeffrey. Yes, we do,

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come to think of it, Donald Enigmas never age have

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you noticed that, Jeffrey. As a matter of fact, it

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was clear to me the last time I saw you Trump,

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a pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday, and may

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every day be another wonderful secret which people are obviously

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construing in the worst possible way, that Donald Trump knew

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Epstein's secrets. That's it. That's where it ends. Okay, So

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the letter bearing Trump's name, which was reviewed by the

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journal is Body, which I thought like, wasn't that like

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the description of all of those late night cinemax shows

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or something? Okay, I don't like, was that body to you?

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I don't even know anyway, Like many of the other

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letters that were in the album, it contained several lines

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of typewritten text, so that was typewritten. Donald Trump famously

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user of the typewriter and such. But so that was

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all typed out. And the text is inside a silhouette

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like a with the use of a marker, a heavy marker, which,

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of course you know everybody knows Donald Trump writes with

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the sharpie all the time. And so the marker is

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used to make an outline of a woman. They claim

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it's a naked woman. I don't know how you would

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know it's a naked woman if it's just a sharpie

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outline right. It appears to be hand drawn with a

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heavy marker. A pair of small arcs denote the woman's breasts,

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and the future president's signature is a squiggly donald below

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her waist, right in that pelvic region. So he he

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wrote his name as the as hair, essentially, but we

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don't know if that's actually true. We haven't seen it.

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All we're getting is the Wall Street Journal's description of this.

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So everybody is conjuring up their own visions of what

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this thing must look like. Now. Trump denied this. He said,

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this is not me. This is a fake thing. It's

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a fake Wall Street Journal story. I never wrote a

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picture in my life. I never wrote a picture. I

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don't know what that means. I don't draw pictures of women.

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It's not my language, it's not my words. He told

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the journal he was preparing to file a lawsuit if

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it published an article about this. He says, I'm going

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to sue the Wall Street Journal, just like I sued

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everyone else. This is all from the Wall Street Journal article.

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Allegations that Epstein had been sexually abusing girls became public

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in two thousand and six, and he was arrested that year.

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Epstein died in twenty nineteen in jail, allegedly after he

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was arrested a second time and charged with sex trafficking conspiracy.

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Justice Department officials did not respond to requests for comment

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or address questions about whether the Trump paid and other pages,

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if they album were part of the agency's recent documents review,

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and the FBI has declined to comment. Another question that

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I have on the larger story, if Epstein didn't kill himself, right,

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but he was in fact murdered to cover up the

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whole operation, and that very well could have happened. I

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do not know, right, So if that's but if that's

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the theory to be tested, then what of Gilaine Maxwell?

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How do you explain the fact that she's still alive?

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And I think like a week or so ago she

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said she would be willing to spill the beans on

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all of this stuff. So how come she's still alive?

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If the powerful people could get to him, how could

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they not get to her? And maybe they are trying

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to I don't know, right, And if she dies or

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commits suicide, then we'll have all different bunch of questionestions here.

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But it's one of the things I've never quite understood Jack.

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I don't understand why she's in prison serving this term

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for a crime that there are no other perpetrators like

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she ran this ring, yet there are no Johns that

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were ever arrested. When you think she would know who

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those people are? Yeah, a lot of questions, A lot

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dot com. I got a tweet here from Karen. It's

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a Pete tweet. She says, out of all of the

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coverage on the Epstein boondoggle going on, yours is the

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only coverage I will pay attention to. Thank you, Karen.

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Thanks for the level headed commentary that I misrush for.

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Tired of the extremes on both sides everyone else I

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turn off quickly. Thank you, Karen. I appreciate that. Look.

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I try to give you as much of this information

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as I can. I put my cards on the table,

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tell you where my mind is on stuff, and you

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decide for yourself. I think you guys are smart enough

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to know you know your own opinions on things and

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form your own opinions on things. So and I also

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you know that's why I'm bringing this story. There are

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some people who'd be like, no, we're not going to

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talk about this because whatever reason, but you should hear

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this stuff so this way, when somebody else comes at

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you with this story, you will have some of the

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details right and some of the questions. And anybody that

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tells you they know what went on with Epstein unless

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they were like an investigator on the case, they nobody

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really knows. Even the people like in journalism that have

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been on this case for fifteen years, they acknowledge they

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don't know all of the stuff. Because the more you

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start peeling away the layers of the onion, the more

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you realize there are a lot more layers to go,

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and you don't know a lot of stuff. One thing

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I think is pretty clear that Epstein was just a monster.

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Guy was just a monster and a con man, a charlatan.

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Now there are people who are coming to Trump's defense saying,

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as the president, did you know he doesn't draw like this?

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Hang on a second. He says, I never wrote a

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picture in my life. I don't draw pictures of women.

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And I don't know if that's true or not. I'll

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take him at his word for it. But he does draw,

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he has drawn, and so this is the big gotcha

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that democrats are using. Because in his own book, Never

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Give Up, there's a passage where he says, sometimes being

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a giver, which is I am a giver as well.

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Sometimes being a giver will open you up to new talents.

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Each year, I donate and autographed doodle to the Doodle

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four Hunger auction at Tavern on the Green. It's a

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restaurant in Manhattan. It's a great event and contributors have

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included Sting, Muhammad Ali, Larry King, a whole bunch of

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other names. He drops in there. It takes me a

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few minutes to draw something. In my case, it's usually

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a building or a skyscraper or a city scape of skyscrapers.

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And then I signed my name. But it raises thousands

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of dollars to help the Hungary in New York through

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the Capuchin Food Pantries Ministry. And then he talks a

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little bit about the charity event and there's an image

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the doodle for Hunger and it's it's just like buildings.

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It's a skyline, very rudimentary, like just black you know,

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sharpie marker, with some buildings like all one line. He

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00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,880
never picks the pen up. He just goes right across

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the page making different sized buildings and stuff. And then

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he takes a gray pen or maybe a pencil and

489
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he does like a little silhouette line on some of

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the sides of the buildings, and he makes some windows

491
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here and there, and then he signs his name, which

492
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:48,720
during the break, I just realized I never noticed this

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00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:52,640
about his signature, his last name. He's got too many

494
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,960
he's got too many letters in there, because like he

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00:30:57,039 --> 00:31:00,720
does the big TE thing, and then he's got like

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that would be the R. The first peak that comes

497
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:04,359
up is the R, and then it goes down and

498
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,160
it goes up and down and up, So that's the U.

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And then it goes down and then up one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,

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nine peaks after the TRU. So, okay, that's the M.

501
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,799
He's got like an extra M or two in there.

502
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,599
It's so it's Trump, I guess. Anyway, I never noticed

503
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:31,799
that about his signature. It's the little things, people, That's

504
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,240
how you crack the case. Okay, So he went on

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00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:37,519
to truth social Trump did, and here was his statement.

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The Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch personally were warned

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00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,200
directly by President Donald J. Trump that the supposed letter

508
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,000
they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a fake

509
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:50,240
and if they printed they will be sued mister Murdoch

510
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:52,599
stated that he would take care of it, but obviously

511
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,880
did not have the power to do so. The editor

512
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920
of the Wall Street Journal, Emma Tucker, was told directly

513
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,039
by Caroline Levitt and by President Trump that the letter

514
00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:04,680
was a fake, but Emma Tucker didn't want to hear that. Instead,

515
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:08,559
they're going with a false, malicious, and defamatory story anyway.

516
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,720
President Trump will be suing the Wall Street Journal, News

517
00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:15,359
Corps and mister Murdoch shortly. The press has to learn

518
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,000
to be truthful and not rely on sources that probably

519
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,279
don't even exist. President Trump has already beaten George Stephanopolis,

520
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:26,920
slash ABC sixty minutes, slash CBS, and others, and looks

521
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,640
forward to suing and holding accountable the once grade Wall

522
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Street Journal. It has truly turned out to be a

523
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:36,799
disgusting and filthy rag that's in quotes and writing defamatory

524
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,960
lies like this shows their desperation to remain relevant. If

525
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,119
there were any truth at all on the Epstein hoax,

526
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,119
as it pertains to President Trump, this information would have

527
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,640
been revealed by Comy Brennan, Crooked Hillary, and other radical

528
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,640
left lunatics years ago. It certainly would not have sat

529
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,680
in a file waiting for Trump all caps in quotes

530
00:32:57,119 --> 00:33:00,000
to have won the three elections. This is yet an

531
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:03,440
other example of fake news. Notice he says three elections there,

532
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,640
and I agree that if this was in the files,

533
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:16,319
why wouldn't they have produced it within the last fifteen years?

534
00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:22,480
Why just now, of all moments, now somebody comes forward

535
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,960
with this document. It's a little suss. As the kids

536
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,440
would say, suspicious gen x and above. He also had

537
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,279
another post where he said, based on the ridiculous amount

538
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:38,680
of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein, I have asked Attorney

539
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,200
General Pambondi to produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony,

540
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,240
which I don't think he can do, but we'll say,

541
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:49,440
subject to court approval. This scam perpetrated by the Democrats

542
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,799
should end right now. So he sounds like he's going

543
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,880
to sue the Wall Street Journal in news corps, which

544
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,720
if this is false, then he should. And by the way,

545
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:06,720
if it is false, the Wall Street Journal should identify

546
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:11,519
publicly their source or sources, right they should burn the

547
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:15,239
liars now. If they're not willing to do that. If

548
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,719
that ends up being the case, then you kind of

549
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,800
know where the Wall Street Journal is coming from on

550
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,599
this stuff. But I had a thought when I saw

551
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,599
that he was threatening and threatening to sue the Wall

552
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:32,079
Street Journal over this. It's a little bit outside the box, granted, Okay,

553
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,599
But as long as we're just speculating on theories and such,

554
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:42,360
is it possible that this is just a way for

555
00:34:43,079 --> 00:34:47,440
News Corps and Rupert Murdoch's family or whatever their their

556
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,440
operation is this, Is it possible that this is just

557
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:55,639
a way to make a very large donation to Donald

558
00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:02,480
Trump's presidential library without having to make a direct contribution, right,

559
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,199
so you wouldn't be on the donor list, but you

560
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,199
would still pay out tens of millions of dollars. I mean, yes,

561
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,360
it would be through a defamation suit and all that whatever,

562
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,920
and you would have probably you know, they settle and

563
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,079
they give him a bunch of money because Trump has

564
00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:19,679
said I think that the previous settlements that money is

565
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:21,880
going to go to his presidential library. So is it

566
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,679
possible I'm just spitball in here. It is it possible

567
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,159
that they write this story just so they can make

568
00:35:30,199 --> 00:35:34,920
a donation to his library. I don't believe that's true either,

569
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,679
but it's possible. You don't know. Nobody knows it's possible.

570
00:35:40,639 --> 00:35:42,519
Ed Morrissey at hodair dot com. He called the whole

571
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:45,159
story a big fat nothing. Berger Trump has already acknowledged

572
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:48,239
many times that he and Epstein used to socialize together,

573
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,280
but he stopped contacting Epstein well before his first arrest

574
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:54,119
in two thousand and seven. What would it matter if

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00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,400
Trump had sent a birthday letter to him in two

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00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,760
thousand and three, four years prior. It's a fair point

577
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,920
to all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank

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you so much for listening. I could not do the

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